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Raildo_hi all15:57
sajeeshhi raildo15:58
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Raildo_hi sajeesh and schwicke15:58
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schwickehi15:58
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schwickecannot see Nirbhay yet16:00
schwickewould be good to have Vinod as well16:00
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Raildo_i agree16:00
sajeeshvinod is out of town..will be reaching tonight16:00
schwickeok16:00
schwickeNirbhay should join in soon.16:01
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schwicke#startmeeting hierarchical_multitenancy16:01
openstackMeeting started Fri Aug  8 16:01:42 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is schwicke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hierarchical_multitenancy)"16:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'hierarchical_multitenancy'16:01
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schwickeRaildo_: thanks for running the meeting last Friday16:02
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Raildo_no problem :)16:02
schwickeI went through the logs16:02
schwicke#topic action items from last meeting16:03
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schwickeI saw that Sajeesh contacted Joe Gordon16:03
sajeeshyes ...I did16:04
schwickethere was another update in the BP from him16:04
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schwickesaying the dead line holds as well for the reviewers . Hmm ....16:04
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schwickeI think the idea was to have the BP discussed in the next nova meeting.16:05
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Raildo_+116:06
sajeeshschwicke,once the code is ready we can put our blueprint again16:06
schwickeok, I think that makes sense.16:06
schwickeWe could try to get some reviewer for the SPEC in any case.16:06
Raildo_I can join in the nova meeting if I can help in something.16:06
sajeeshraildo,thanks a lot16:07
schwickeRaildo_ +116:07
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schwicke#action bring up hierarchical projects  in the next nova meeting16:08
schwickeNeed to put that into my calendar and will try to connect as well if possible16:08
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schwickewhich one is it ? The team meeting ?16:09
sajeeshok16:09
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Nirbhay_when it is scheduled?16:09
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sajeeshIt is on next Thursday16:10
Nirbhay_ok16:10
VINOD_Hi16:10
sajeesh11'o clock geneva time16:10
schwicke#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings#OpenStack_Compute_.28Nova.2916:10
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Nirbhay_ok16:10
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Raildo_hi VINOD_16:10
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sajeeshHi Vinod16:10
schwickehi Vinod16:10
VINOD_Hi all, sorry for late16:10
schwickeapparently there was a meeting yesterday16:11
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schwickedid anybody of you follow it ?16:12
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sajeeshI couldn't attend it yesterday16:12
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VINOD_sorry i was travelling and so i couldn't attend the meeting16:12
schwickeme neither16:13
schwicke#link http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140814T21000016:13
schwickethat's the next one.16:13
Raildo_I did not participate and the channel has no log =/16:13
schwickeThe time is not very comfortable for us.16:13
sajeeshthe timing of meeting is bit difficult to attend16:13
schwickesajeesh: +116:13
sajeeshIn india it is early morning 2.3016:14
schwicke23h here16:14
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Nirbhay_i think i can attend from here16:14
schwickeI will try as well.16:14
sajeeshAnyway we should try to attend the next meeting16:14
Raildo_In Brazil is a good time 18h16:14
sajeeshgood :-)16:15
schwickelucky you :)16:15
Raildo_:D16:15
sajeeshonce me and Raildo had attended at that time16:15
schwickemaybe it makes sense to contact the chair in advance and ask if this could be briefly discussed16:15
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sajeesh+116:16
Nirbhay_+116:16
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Raildo_I do not remember now, but somewhere you can suggest the topics of the next meeting.16:16
Raildo_sajeesh, you can ask this in the #openstack-nova16:17
sajeeshyes16:17
sajeeshok16:17
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schwickewell, in theory after logging in one can edit the agenda ..16:18
schwickewhich I guess is not 100% PC16:18
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schwicke#action contact chair of nova team meeting and suggest hierarchical projects as a topic16:19
schwickedo you want me to do that ?16:19
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sajeeshIf you can,it would be nice16:19
schwickeI'll give it a try then16:20
schwickelet's move on16:20
sajeeshok16:20
schwickethere is one thing which was not discussed in the last meeting I think16:20
schwickeRaildo: at some point you said ""There is only a little misunderstanding of how users will be managed in the hierarchy since they are associated with domains.16:21
schwicke          I believe this is the only point that still needs to be agreed to approve the spec."16:21
schwickehas that been sorted out ?16:21
schwicke#topic relationship with domains16:21
VINOD_#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-meeting-alt/%23openstack-meeting-alt.2014-08-07.log16:21
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VINOD_you can find yesterdays logs at the above link16:21
VINOD_scroll down to 14:00 Hrs16:22
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VINOD_I mean yesterdays nova meeting logs16:22
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schwickeyes, thanks!16:22
Raildo_Yes, probably today I will be sending the new version of the spec will probably be the final version, but to summarize, Hierarchical projects will not interfere with user management.16:23
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VINOD_I think they discussed about the spec freeze and it looks like (after reading the first few comments), no more specs will be accepted16:23
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sajeeshUlrich,shall we discuss about Raildo's code test results16:25
Raildo_Next week, I plan to be with the code 100% implemented.16:26
schwickeRaildo: so nothing else to be discussed on this ?16:26
schwickeThat's very good news16:26
sajeeshraildo, excellent work  !!!16:26
Raildo_I received a review of sajeesh16:26
Raildo_thanks :)16:26
schwickeyes, next topic16:26
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schwicke#topic keystone code tests by Sajeesh16:26
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schwickeI went through your report, very nice work and very useful I think.16:27
Raildo_Well, I believe that left to work with code review and resolve some bugs.16:27
schwickeI spotted two issues in the review:16:28
schwicke tree reported in wrong order: is this a bug  or a feature ?16:28
schwickeThis was this "project A comes in the middle " thing16:28
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Raildo_I do not have much time today, because here in Brazil is a holiday, but I intend to respond as soon as possible.16:29
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schwickeok, great16:29
sajeeshok,no problem16:29
schwickein any case what is more of an issue is the second thing: missing children list.16:29
schwickeI think that is really needed by the quota stuff.16:29
sajeeshyes,the immediate children list is required16:30
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Raildo_Well, as we talked, we will remove the hierarchy of the token and we will create a API call to get the hierarchy16:30
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Raildo_GET v3/projects/include_hierarchy16:31
sajeeshok16:31
VINOD_+116:31
Nirbhay_ok16:31
Raildo_it will be sent the full hierarchy16:31
sajeeshok16:31
schwickethis will also adress the issue caused by disappearing projects, right ?16:32
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Raildo_and we intend to begin implementing in the keystone-client16:32
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sajeeshok16:33
Raildo_schwicke, yes16:33
schwickeNirbhay, Sajeesh: how long will it take to update the quota code accordingly ?16:33
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sajeeshShwicke,it will take around 2 weeks16:33
Nirbhay_If i need to write whole code againg then it  may take some time16:33
Nirbhay_2-3 weeks  it will  take..16:34
Raildo_sorry, the API call to get the hierarchy is: GET v3/projects/{project_id}?include_hierarchy16:35
schwickeNirbhay: let's discuss offline16:35
Nirbhay_ok16:35
schwickemaybe we find some way to speed this up a bit16:35
sajeeshok...raildo,whether this feauture is there in the current set up16:35
VINOD_I think no need to write whole code again...it just requires few changes in the sajeesh code....I guess 1 week is fine...But i still have doubt about our blue print16:35
schwickethat would be useful indeed16:36
Raildo_#link API documentation review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111355/16:36
sajeeshvinod,if we try we can finish it early16:36
VINOD_First we need to some how make our blueprint accepted...If i am right, the deadline for Juno-3 is August 21...and definitely we can finish the code (this is not at all a problem)16:37
sajeesh+116:37
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Raildo_VINOD_, you are right16:38
schwicke+116:38
Nirbhay_agreed with vinod16:38
schwickethat's the hard part I'm afraid16:38
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VINOD_schwicke: yes, if i read the logs of yesterday meeting, i guess it is difficult now for our blueprint to go through Juno-316:38
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sajeeshbut we can try till the last minute16:39
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VINOD_Joe gordon has posted a comment on our blueprint "Hi, Unfortunately we have the deadline not only for patch authors but for reviewers. As we already have a tremendous number of outstanding patches that need reviewing."16:39
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VINOD_With that comment, it seems negative for the acceptance of the blueprint16:40
schwickewhich is understandable16:40
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VINOD_So the question, how we now proceed (which channel we can use) to ask the reviewers to look about our blue print?16:40
schwickeI think we need to find some highly ranked supporters :)16:41
sajeeshtruely16:41
VINOD_I repeat again, code is not a problem..its a promise ...that code will be definitely ready...so please think about the blueprint...16:41
VINOD_but how? any idea?16:41
sajeeshraildo,can you please suggest ?16:42
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Raildo_Well, I think we should focus on is that this functionality is directly related to another feature in Keystone16:44
Raildo_and the Keystone code will most likely come into Juno-3.16:44
sajeesh++116:44
Raildo_So, the Novacode should also get in Juno-3.16:44
Raildo_I think this is the point that we must use to get approval.16:45
sajeeshvery correct16:45
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VINOD_+116:45
Raildo_We have to make it clear also that the both code are already well advanced and it can now be tested.16:46
VINOD_How can we make our voice heard? Is it through only nova meeting or by contacting some body through e-mail (like Joe Gordon)16:46
Raildo_And that's not a feature that began a few days16:46
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schwicke+116:46
Raildo_vishy?16:47
Nirbhay_+116:47
sajeeshI think vishy is the right person16:47
schwicke+116:47
Raildo_I believe he is much interested in this feature and can help it.16:47
VINOD_sajeesh: can you do this?16:47
vishyhi16:47
vishyunless there is an approved blueprint already16:48
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sajeeshhi vishy16:48
vishythere is no way nova code is getting in in juno :(16:48
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vishynova merges have been really blocked up. Hopefully we can fix it in k16:48
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vishykeystone seems possible16:49
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sajeeshok16:49
Raildo_:( ok16:50
schwickebad luck.16:50
vishyfor example16:50
morganfainbergvishy, we are winding down juno, we have talked about having this work land on a feature branch for J in keystone16:50
vishyI had a blueprint + patches 1 week after summit for nova16:50
vishynow 3 months later16:50
vishystill last 3 patches haven’t merged16:50
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vishywe need to figure out something to get the review queue down16:51
vishyI really appreciate the work you guys have been doing16:51
morganfainbergvishy, it may make sense to push the acceptance of the code to early K for Keystone as well, but we were open to a featre branch if we couldn't land it right away.16:51
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vishymorganfainberg: based on how hard this is to get in16:51
vishyit would be awesome to get the keystone side in ASAP16:51
vishyjust because all the other projects will block on keystone acceptance16:52
schwickethat makes sense16:52
morganfainbergvishy, ++ not blocking it yet :) lets see if we can hammer out the spec bits and get that finalized, most of the complaints on the spec have been addressed16:52
morganfainbergvishy, worst case, we can feature branch and look at a merge once RC is cut for J16:52
Raildo_morganfainberg, ++16:53
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vishysorry i haven’t been helping much16:53
vishycan you link me the various bps and patches so i can help lend support?16:53
schwicke#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101017/16:53
sajeeshok, sure16:53
VINOD_vishy: I have a doubt, If lets say Raildo code is accepted for Juno-3 and that means, there is a difference in the current project hierarchy to the nested hierarchy. The other projects will still be assuming the token in the older format (ofcourse keystone APIs as well)16:54
schwicke#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/110639/16:54
VINOD_so, does this pose any problem to other projects?16:54
Raildo_vishy, I'll include you as a reviewer in all patches16:54
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morganfainbergVINOD_, the token format *cannot* change.16:54
VINOD_morganfainberg: ok16:54
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morganfainbergVINOD_, we can look at adding some extra data, but we cannot change it.16:54
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Raildo_morganfainberg, ++ As we will not modify the token to the other services there is no hierarchy.16:55
schwicke#action add vishy as reviewer16:55
morganfainbergVINOD_, not unless we bump token version (there is no good story for this in keystone yet, it is on the long list of things we want)16:55
morganfainbergVINOD_, but since Raildo_ just said we aren't changing the token version, nbd.16:56
morganfainbergs/token verson/token format16:56
VINOD_Raildo: So if i am right, then even though there is a support for nested projects in your code, it will still work as the existing one (not to break the other services in the openstack)16:56
Raildo_VINOD_, ++16:57
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VINOD_Raildo: That's great...best of luck for your bp and code16:57
Raildo_The way we implemented, only the Keystone is being affected. (we will create tempest test to prove it)16:57
schwickevishy: can you think of any other highly interested reviewer who we can ask ?16:57
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vishyschwicke: has dolphm or ayoung been reviewing?16:58
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schwickevishy: don't think so. Good idea16:58
schwicke#action invite also dolphm and ayoung16:59
VINOD_vishy: No, only "Tim Bell" and "Joe Gordon" are in the review list16:59
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sajeeshyes16:59
schwicketime is running out guys16:59
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schwickeneed to follow-up via e-mail afaik17:00
VINOD_ok17:00
sajeeshraildo,I will test the remaining api calls and will get back to you17:00
Raildo_ok17:00
schwicke#endmeeting17:00
Raildo_sajeesh, ok, thanks17:00
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VINOD_bye to all. have a nice weekend17:00
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vishylooks like there is a new patch coming up soon for the spec? I see a bunch of “Done” comments17:00
sajeeshgood bye all17:00
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VINOD_vishy: ok17:00
Raildo_by to all, have a nice weekend17:00
vishyVINOD_: oh you mean for the nova sice17:01
vishy* side17:01
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vishyrussellb is an option17:01
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VINOD_vishy: yes, i was talking about the reviewers for the nova bp17:01
sajeeshok17:01
Raildo_vishy, yes, I had a problem with my publickey yesterday and could not send the code. So I send the new version, I ping you.17:02
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schwickeI have to leave. See you all, and special thanks to vish!17:03
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VINOD_bye17:04
sajeesh thanks to vishy !!17:04
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sajeeshbye all17:04
vishybye17:04
Raildo_bye17:05
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