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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 1 16:00:34 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| rakhmerov | hello | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:00 |
| akuznetsova | hi | 16:01 |
| enykeev | Hey | 16:01 |
| nmakhotkin_ | hi | 16:02 |
| rakhmerov | Kirill, I know folks in the US celebrate labor day today, do you know by any chance if Dmitri was going to join us today? | 16:02 |
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| rakhmerov | enykeev? | 16:03 |
| enykeev | No idea, haven't seen him today | 16:03 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 16:03 |
| rakhmerov | ok, let's quickly go through our agenda items today | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Review Action Items | 16:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:04 | |
| rakhmerov | 1. rakhmerov and others: discuss workflow other types | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | it's not a good time to discuss this thing now, it's a long term topic | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov and others: discuss workflow other types | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | rakhmerov, start a ML discussion about Glance integration | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | rakhmerov, talk to Angus about versioning CLI | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | rakhmerov, validate that we can release a minor version for the old client of the new one goes forward | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | these 3 items are not relevant anymore | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | it's all either decided or implemented | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) | 16:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:07 | |
| rakhmerov | let's quickly report what you're up to | 16:07 |
| enykeev | Spent the week by implementing v2 API and fixing nasty little bugs along the way. | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | ok, it is done, right? | 16:07 |
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| enykeev | as far as I can tell | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:07 |
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| nmakhotkin_ | last week I worked on the implementation delayed calls and mistralclient v2 (client and CLI) | 16:08 |
| enykeev | we are still missing action API, though | 16:08 |
| rakhmerov | yes, that's fine | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | shouldn't be that hard to add them | 16:09 |
| nmakhotkin_ | enykeev, we can create actions endpoint | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:09 |
| akuznetsova | I added two more tests and finish mistral-workflow-execution-tests blueprint | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | my status: made a lot of changes in engine and execution infrastructure last week, discussed workflow policies with Dmitri and started working on them (kind of challenging thing), had lots of design discussions with all the team | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | guys, I know you found a bug in Bryan's commit (already merged), are you sure you know how to fix it? | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | if yes, please just do it | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | if know, we can discuss it here or tomorrow | 16:10 |
| nmakhotkin_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/118187/ | 16:10 |
| nmakhotkin_ | I guess this can fix it | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, ok | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | I'll take a look | 16:11 |
| akuznetsova | need to wait a gate and we will see | 16:12 |
| enykeev | nmakhotkin_, we should probably also add unit test for that | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | yep ) | 16:12 |
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| nmakhotkin_ | yes | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | akuznetsova, any progress on that Pool size issue? | 16:13 |
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| akuznetsova | one issue will be fixed with nmakhotkin_ commit | 16:14 |
| akuznetsova | but generally i didn't find the root of problem | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, ok | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | let's discuss tomorrow | 16:15 |
| akuznetsova | will spend more time tomorrow | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | ok, thanks | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Release 0.1 progress | 16:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release 0.1 progress (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:15 | |
| rakhmerov | ook | 16:15 |
| rakhmerov | you can take a look at the milestone at LP: https://launchpad.net/mistral/+milestone/0.1 | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | we have three BPs that we didn't start working on | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-ui | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-workflow-wait-policy | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-terminal-states | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | and pretty heavy that I am now working on: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-workflow-policies | 16:18 |
| nmakhotkin_ | I plan to start wait policy in a few days | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | I'll probably spend at least 3-4 days on it | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | yes, I think it shouldn't be that hard | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | and it will be based on delayed calls services | 16:18 |
| nmakhotkin_ | yes :) | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | Kirill, Nikolay, how would you estimate adjusting mistral-ui? | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | so that it works with API V2 | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | would 2-3 days be enough to fix it? | 16:20 |
| rakhmerov | from your perspective | 16:21 |
| enykeev | really hard to tell. Most of the things should take about a day or two, but there might be some nasty bugs and there were lots of changes in horizon lately | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, really? | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | what kind of changes? | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | or if you have, please share a link or something to find out about them | 16:22 |
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| enykeev | afaik, they are rewriting UI parts pretty badly and this was their main goal for this release, although I haven't paid too much attention | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | I didn't think to include this BP at all into 0.1, and if we need we can still exclude it but I'm still hoping to get it done | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | so I think finishing up all current activities (API, client, hanging patches) will take other 2-3 days so we'll have about 6-7 days left till the end of the cycle | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | for 3 BPs | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | seems ok to me | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | I'm just a little worried about having not really comprehensive testing for some of the new things | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | may be we need to look at it and see where we can improve it | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | first of all, I'm talking about engine, Data Flow etc. (my part actually :) ) | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | even though I try to test main things we may want to add more tests | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | ok, do you guys want to discuss anything else? | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Open Discussion | 16:27 |
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| rakhmerov | if no, we can go to bed :) | 16:27 |
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| enykeev | nope, nothing | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | ok, let's finish | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | bye and thanks to everyone! | 16:28 |
| enykeev | thanks | 16:28 |
| nmakhotkin_ | bye! | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 16:28 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 1 16:28:53 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:28 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-09-01-16.00.html | 16:28 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-09-01-16.00.txt | 16:28 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2014/mistral.2014-09-01-16.00.log.html | 16:28 |
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| rluethi | #startmeeting training-guides | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 1 17:00:01 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rluethi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: training-guides)" | 17:00 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' | 17:00 |
| rluethi | roll call. anyone there? | 17:00 |
| rluethi | or here, as the case may be? | 17:00 |
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| rluethi | hi matjazp | 17:00 |
| matjazp | hi | 17:00 |
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| dbite | hello | 17:01 |
| sayali | Hello | 17:01 |
| rluethi | hi all. | 17:01 |
| rluethi | sarob can't be here today, he'll be back for the meeting next week. | 17:01 |
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| dbite | ok, sounds good | 17:02 |
| rluethi | #topic praise | 17:02 |
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| * dbite hehe | 17:02 | |
| rluethi | so, sarob asked me to praise you guys for all the good work, and welcome the new contributors. | 17:02 |
| rluethi | welcome new contributors! good work everyone! | 17:03 |
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| dbite | welcome new contributors, awesome work everyone! | 17:03 |
| sayali | hehe | 17:03 |
| rluethi | we got quite a bit of work done last week. | 17:03 |
| dbite | rather last few weeks (maybe month) | 17:04 |
| rluethi | #topic audio visual subteam | 17:04 |
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| rluethi | sayali: do you have an update on the proposal? | 17:04 |
| rluethi | (re: audio visual subteam content and structure) | 17:04 |
| sayali | I sent out an email asking about the content to be included | 17:05 |
| sayali | We thought we could re use some of the existing clips first | 17:05 |
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| rluethi | So we are waiting for replies from whom? | 17:07 |
| sayali | But i was also thinking we could first draw out the structure and then add the old clips and new content | 17:07 |
| matjazp | sayali: should we also include others into planning? or do we do that later, with draft proposal? | 17:07 |
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| dbite | I suggest planning on Etherpad as usual, would be much better | 17:07 |
| dbite | as we dont know how to inculde audio or video | 17:07 |
| dbite | it may be a good idea to not push them to the repository | 17:08 |
| rluethi | +1 for anything tangible so everyone gets an idea of what is being proposed and worked on. | 17:08 |
| matjazp | sayali: will you start an Etherpad? | 17:08 |
| sayali | matjazp: sure | 17:08 |
| sayali | matjazp: the existing email thread could also be sent to everyone | 17:08 |
| matjazp | sayali: and we'll just continue there | 17:08 |
| sayali | sounds good | 17:08 |
| matjazp | sayali: sure.. or just publish that on ehtherpad | 17:09 |
| sayali | matjazp: alright | 17:09 |
| matjazp | #action sayali starts new Etherpad, we all chip in with suggestions | 17:10 |
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| rluethi | sayali: don't forget to broadcast the link to the etherpad somehow. | 17:10 |
| matjazp | rluethi: wiki? | 17:11 |
| dbite | better send it over mailing list and add it to wiki | 17:11 |
| rluethi | matjazp, dbite either/both work for me. | 17:11 |
| sayali | ok will do | 17:11 |
| dbite | I meant ehterpad for the design | 17:11 |
| dbite | and spread the word via. mailing list | 17:11 |
| rluethi | okay, next up: | 17:12 |
| rluethi | #topic review queue | 17:12 |
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| rluethi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/training-guides,n,z | 17:12 |
| rluethi | there are some entries in this list that have been sitting there for way too long. | 17:12 |
| dbite | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/training-guides+status:open,n,z | 17:12 |
| dbite | we have three reviews open | 17:12 |
| rluethi | please check them out and see if you can do something to get them passed. | 17:13 |
| rluethi | or abandoned, if necessary :). | 17:13 |
| matjazp | rluethi: what happens with "orphaned" reviews? | 17:13 |
| rluethi | matjazp: now that's a good question. anyone knows the answer? | 17:14 |
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| dbite | I am waiting for Megan and Shilla to push | 17:14 |
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| matjazp | rluethi: we should email author, if nothing happens for X days, someone else can finish it? | 17:14 |
| dbite | their changes | 17:14 |
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| rluethi | matjazp: I suspect that sometimes (depending on workflow) things fall through the cracks, so emailing them might be a good idea. | 17:15 |
| matjazp | It's a shame for any effort to go to waste | 17:15 |
| rluethi | dbite: they may not realize the ball is in their court. | 17:15 |
| dbite | hmm, I will shoot them an email once | 17:16 |
| matjazp | rluethi: email or IRC? | 17:16 |
| dbite | and see what they have to say | 17:16 |
| dbite | we need to freeze IceHouse soon | 17:16 |
| matjazp | dbite: when? | 17:16 |
| rluethi | matjazp: whatever works for getting in touch :) | 17:16 |
| dbite | matjazp: we need to talk to Sean for this | 17:17 |
| rluethi | #info a few patches spend too much time in review, need to contact authors | 17:17 |
| rluethi | good enough. I just wanted to mention it. thanks. | 17:17 |
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| rluethi | #topic upstream slides | 17:18 |
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| rluethi | slides have been uploaded and merged. | 17:18 |
| dbite | reed: are you in the house? | 17:18 |
| dbite | rluethi: is that all the slides? | 17:18 |
| matjazp | rluethi: it's awkward to review them.... maybe an update to tools with automatic slide generation? | 17:18 |
| rluethi | dbite: I have no idea. | 17:18 |
| rluethi | matjazp: we were supposed to have a discussion via gerrit, but it somehow didn't happen. | 17:19 |
| dbite | one min I will check | 17:19 |
| dbite | with the blueprint | 17:19 |
| matjazp | rluethi: dbite: we can crosscheck material from https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Upstream_Training/Info | 17:19 |
| dbite | for your information, I have built and re-verified all the content being pushed into the review queue | 17:20 |
| rluethi | matjazp: the awkwardness you mentioned may have been a major reason for that. | 17:20 |
| rluethi | dbite: I built most of them, too. some of the text got cut off at the bottom when I looked at the slides. | 17:20 |
| dbite | track the progress with this blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-training-guides/+spec/merge-upstream-university-training | 17:20 |
| matjazp | dbite: it should be automatic.. | 17:20 |
| dbite | rluethi: that is tolerable for now | 17:20 |
| rluethi | dbite: I thought it might be, but didn't know, so I stopped reviewing. | 17:21 |
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| dbite | matjazp: we need to push some basic content for now, designing tests will be next step | 17:21 |
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| rluethi | what's the plan for the slides now that they are merged? | 17:22 |
| dbite | rluethi: I think it is ok to have some issues like clipping of images for now, we can fix them once we are done with other more important things | 17:22 |
| dbite | rluethi: I will push the python tool to generate pdf files and then we push them on docs.openstack.org after we discuss it with Anne and Sarob | 17:22 |
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| matjazp | dbite: great | 17:23 |
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| rluethi | dbite: sweet. | 17:23 |
| dbite | matjazp: we also need loads of test cases for our labs section | 17:23 |
| matjazp | dbite: IIRC, you already tested PDF generation, right? | 17:23 |
| dbite | but we cannot do everything at once | 17:23 |
| rluethi | #action dbite will push the python tool to generate pdf files, discuss with Anne and Sarob | 17:23 |
| dbite | matjazp: yes PDF generation works perfectly | 17:23 |
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| dbite | I will push a few PDFs for reviewing before pushing the python patch | 17:24 |
| dbite | and yes, I think the upstream content is pushed as per the blueprint | 17:24 |
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| rluethi | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/OpenStack_Upstream_Training/Info | 17:26 |
| rluethi | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-training-guides/+spec/merge-upstream-university-training | 17:26 |
| rluethi | #topic quizzing | 17:26 |
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| rluethi | matjazp: how's it going? | 17:26 |
| matjazp | conpute node quiz is done | 17:26 |
| matjazp | i still have to push the patch | 17:26 |
| matjazp | working on network node | 17:26 |
| rluethi | matjazp: is this the first quiz? I don't remember ever seeing one. | 17:27 |
| matjazp | meganr offered help, we synced over email as we were both absent last week | 17:27 |
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| matjazp | rluethi: no there are 2 quizzes | 17:27 |
| matjazp | for associate guide | 17:28 |
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| matjazp | there are 5 quizzes + 1 assessment | 17:29 |
| rluethi | eventually? | 17:29 |
| matjazp | yes | 17:29 |
| rluethi | ETA? | 17:29 |
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| matjazp | if megan helps with the last one (Object storage), it could be done in a week | 17:30 |
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| rluethi | matjazp: awesome. | 17:30 |
| rluethi | very cool. | 17:30 |
| matjazp | that is, everything except assessment | 17:30 |
| matjazp | assessment will be done later, when we discuss other things | 17:30 |
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| matjazp | that is the plan anyway... | 17:31 |
| rluethi | matjazp: well, looks like you are well on your way. | 17:31 |
| rluethi | talking about which... | 17:32 |
| rluethi | #topic labs scripts | 17:32 |
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| rluethi | dbite: ? | 17:32 |
| dbite | rluethi: Cinder and Neutron have problem | 17:32 |
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| dbite | when we follow the install guides as it is | 17:32 |
| dbite | I will be editing it and pushing the changes asap | 17:33 |
| matjazp | dbite: whats wrong? | 17:33 |
| rluethi | dbite: and you waited for the IRC meeting to tell me. | 17:33 |
| rluethi | dbite: :) | 17:33 |
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| dbite | rluethi: I wanted to keep some surprises ;) | 17:34 |
| rluethi | dbite: well, I did not see that one coming. | 17:34 |
| dbite | I was doing some background checks on why I had a few things different than install-guides in my previous versions | 17:34 |
| dbite | and figured it out, that we need some changes more RnD to do in that arae | 17:34 |
| dbite | *area | 17:34 |
| dbite | with ML2 plugin out, I dont have a solution for it yet | 17:35 |
| dbite | the OVS part works as required | 17:35 |
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| rluethi | dbite: okay, we can discuss this one on one later on. | 17:35 |
| dbite | but the instances are not getting IP addresses and Cinder Volumes refuses to work as required | 17:35 |
| dbite | I, agree | 17:35 |
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| dbite | note this also affects basic-install-guides | 17:35 |
| dbite | as we are focused on VirtualBox based cluster/architecture | 17:36 |
| rluethi | #info some issues with the cluster setup, but basic software ready for testing. | 17:36 |
| dbite | I think its ready to be released | 17:36 |
| rluethi | thanks to matjazp for his valuable feedback. | 17:37 |
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| rluethi | #topic incubation | 17:37 |
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| rluethi | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Training-guides#Incubation_Plan | 17:37 |
| rluethi | sarob would like to start incubation preparation next meeting. | 17:38 |
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| matjazp | rluethi: are we there yet? | 17:38 |
| rluethi | you may want to have a look at the link above. | 17:38 |
| rluethi | matjazp: not for me to decide. I for one am currently a bit reluctant to say yes :). | 17:38 |
| dbite | matjazp: we are nearly there, also we are pushing lot of content which differs from the manuals teams road map | 17:38 |
| dbite | but the best judges for this again are Anne Gentle and Sean Roberts | 17:39 |
| dbite | we need to ask them for guidance and advice | 17:39 |
| matjazp | annegentle: you here? | 17:39 |
| dbite | I think we should discuss this later on | 17:40 |
| dbite | what do you guys think? | 17:40 |
| matjazp | ML? | 17:40 |
| rluethi | dbite: agreed. read the info in the link above, it's a good preparation. | 17:40 |
| rluethi | #topic other issues | 17:41 |
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| rluethi | anything else I missed? | 17:41 |
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| sayali | document updation for the labs section | 17:42 |
| rluethi | #topic docs | 17:42 |
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| rluethi | of course, thank you sayali! | 17:42 |
| rluethi | both for reminding me and for the updates. | 17:42 |
| * rluethi smacks himself | 17:42 | |
| sayali | At this point do we need/want to include the HACKING.rst? | 17:43 |
| sayali | rluethi: no problem :) | 17:43 |
| sayali | in all the sub folders I mean | 17:43 |
| dbite | sayali: once you are finished with pushing the content, can you also convert all the markdown files to rst files? | 17:43 |
| rluethi | sayali: which subfolders? | 17:43 |
| dbite | sayali: we just need one Hacking.rst | 17:44 |
| dbite | at the location /labs/ | 17:44 |
| sayali | the sub foders in the labs folder rluethi | 17:44 |
| dbite | we do not need it for each subfolder | 17:44 |
| sayali | ok dbite | 17:44 |
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| rluethi | sayali: agree with dbite | 17:44 |
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| sayali | ok then I can just detail that one | 17:44 |
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| dbite | rluethi: what do you think the content of hacking.rst should be? I was thinking it to be more in line with other projects hacking.rst's | 17:45 |
| matjazp | sayali: yes, one Hacking.rst will do | 17:45 |
| rluethi | dbite: following other projects is usually a good idea, even if it's just to meet the expectations of the users. | 17:45 |
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| rluethi | dbite: I definitely want the all the information for devs to get started somewhere. | 17:46 |
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| rluethi | dbite: some of the other projects are sorely lacking in this regard. | 17:46 |
| sayali | rluethi: sure, Ill try covering most of it! | 17:47 |
| dbite | yes, I meant follow them for the initial kickstart | 17:47 |
| rluethi | sayali: I'll chip in with some information, too. | 17:47 |
| sayali | rluethi: great :) | 17:47 |
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| rluethi | #topic other issues reloaded | 17:48 |
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| rluethi | anything else I also missed? | 17:48 |
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| dbite | nothing much from my side | 17:49 |
| rluethi | I take that as a no (phew). | 17:49 |
| rluethi | Thanks everyone, see you next week. | 17:50 |
| rluethi | #endmeeting | 17:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 1 17:50:12 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2014/training_guides.2014-09-01-17.00.html | 17:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2014/training_guides.2014-09-01-17.00.txt | 17:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2014/training_guides.2014-09-01-17.00.log.html | 17:50 |
| dbite | thanks | 17:50 |
| matjazp | bye all | 17:50 |
| sayali | bye | 17:50 |
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| anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 1 18:00:49 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 18:00 |
| anteaya | who is here? | 18:01 |
| daya_k | hi | 18:01 |
| luqas | hi | 18:01 |
| trinaths | Hi | 18:01 |
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| anteaya | here is our agenda for today | 18:02 |
| anteaya | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/042917.html | 18:02 |
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| anteaya | #topic Welcome & Reminder of OpenStack Mission | 18:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Welcome & Reminder of OpenStack Mission (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 18:02 | |
| anteaya | let's remember why we are here | 18:02 |
| anteaya | #info The OpenStack Open Source Cloud Mission: to produce the ubiquitous Open Source Cloud Computing platform that will meet the needs of public and private clouds regardless of size, by being simple to implement and massively scalable. | 18:03 |
| anteaya | #topic Review of previous week's open action items | 18:03 |
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| anteaya | #info third party team to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99990/ | 18:03 |
| daya_k | anteaya: is the link for agenda correct? | 18:03 |
| anteaya | no | 18:04 |
| kevinbenton | also here (sorry late) | 18:04 |
| anteaya | here is the agenda | 18:04 |
| anteaya | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 18:04 |
| anteaya | I had something else in my clipboard | 18:04 |
| anteaya | np, thanks for being here kevinbenton | 18:04 |
| anteaya | so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99990/ has some reviews but none from third party operators that I can see | 18:05 |
| anteaya | it would be supportive to see some reviews from folks who attend this meeting | 18:05 |
| anteaya | so let's have that for an action item for this week as well | 18:05 |
| anteaya | #action third party team to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99990/ | 18:05 |
| anteaya | other action item | 18:06 |
| daya_k | anteaya : i cannot see the benefit of this exercise, since i am more of a newcomer to the process itself. one thing i had suggested to fungi on irc was if the community could host some pre-built vm templates, it would give everyone a good headstart | 18:06 |
| anteaya | #info anteaya to offer joa's work as config patches with joa as co-author by next meeting | 18:06 |
| anteaya | I haven't done that | 18:06 |
| daya_k | thats why i didnt review it either way. | 18:06 |
| anteaya | daya_k: would you like to know the benefit of the exercise? | 18:06 |
| anteaya | or would you like to talk about your suggestion to fungi? | 18:06 |
| daya_k | yes, please. | 18:06 |
| anteaya | the benefit is that this is the direction infra is going | 18:07 |
| daya_k | he had liked the idea i think, but its not part of any specific agenda | 18:07 |
| daya_k | ok, but how will it help ramp up new 3rd party systems | 18:07 |
| anteaya | and since the mission of this group, see our goals, is to work with infra, this is inline with our reason for being here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty#Goals_for_Third_Party_meetings | 18:07 |
| anteaya | how will this work ramp up new 3rd party systems? | 18:08 |
| anteaya | is that the question? | 18:08 |
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| anteaya | daya_k: is that your question? | 18:09 |
| daya_k | yes, i am not in a position to comment how it will help streamline the infra team's work itself, but i dont see how it will help someone like me who is setting up a new system | 18:09 |
| anteaya | anyone able to answer daya_k's question? | 18:09 |
| anteaya | besides me? | 18:09 |
| anteaya | because this direction doesn't actually help infra | 18:10 |
| anteaya | it actually takes time away from infra to do this work | 18:10 |
| anteaya | noone is able to answer this question besides me | 18:10 |
| anteaya | okay | 18:10 |
| anteaya | since noone sees the point of reviewing this spec I can see why noone is reviewing this spce | 18:10 |
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| daya_k | anteaya: i thought the exercise was meant to streamline infra effort by modularizing the work, but if you say it wont help infra itself, then i am flummoxed | 18:11 |
| anteaya | this is for consumers of third party modules | 18:12 |
| anteaya | particulary third party ci | 18:12 |
| ociuhandu | anteaya: if i got it right, this work should ease the maintenance of any third-party CI, that could use only the required modules | 18:12 |
| anteaya | now the phrase "third party" doesn' appear in the spec itself, but that is who the work is for | 18:12 |
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| anteaya | ociuhandu: yay | 18:12 |
| * anteaya hands ociuhandu a gold star | 18:12 | |
| anteaya | ociuhandu: thank you for paying attention | 18:12 |
| ociuhandu | anteaya: I am just looking at the document now, have to admit, missed that before | 18:12 |
| anteaya | ociuhandu: do expand for the benfit of others | 18:13 |
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| daya_k | anteaya: so, today am i not able to pick up individual modules if an update is announced on the mailing lists? sorry, i havent done this exercise yet, so dont know | 18:13 |
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| ociuhandu | i think it’s excellent, so any third-party ci can take the the modules it needs | 18:13 |
| ociuhandu | not having to deal with a monolithical block that might not suit their particular requirements and from that block figuring out how to “remove” pieces they do not use / can not use | 18:14 |
| anteaya | ociuhandu: yay | 18:14 |
| anteaya | ociuhandu: keep going | 18:14 |
| anteaya | ociuhandu: you are exactly correct | 18:14 |
| daya_k | ociuhandu: ok, if it helps achieve this, then yes, definitely thats a +1. so, does this mean, even the modules we have today will be broken into sub-components? | 18:15 |
| ociuhandu | well, is it detalied enough now? :) | 18:15 |
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| daya_k | yes, thanks. | 18:15 |
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| anteaya | anyone else with any other questions about the benefit of the infra-spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99990/ to third party? | 18:16 |
| anteaya | thank you, ociuhandu | 18:16 |
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| anteaya | okay I'll move on | 18:16 |
| ociuhandu | daya_k: yes, if I got it right, it’s exactly about splitting those | 18:16 |
| anteaya | #topic Announcements | 18:17 |
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| anteaya | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/042917.html | 18:17 |
| anteaya | okay so looking at this email | 18:17 |
| anteaya | all third party ci systems should have an entry on the wikipage for third party systems | 18:18 |
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| anteaya | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems | 18:18 |
| anteaya | anyone without an entry on the wikipage with have their system disabled | 18:18 |
| anteaya | questions? | 18:18 |
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| anteaya | moving on | 18:19 |
| anteaya | #topic OpenStack Program items | 18:19 |
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| anteaya | I have nothing here | 18:19 |
| anteaya | does anyone have anything? | 18:19 |
| anteaya | moving right along | 18:19 |
| anteaya | #topic Deadlines & Deprecations | 18:20 |
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| anteaya | I have nothing here either | 18:20 |
| anteaya | and I don't see any of the program reps here | 18:20 |
| anteaya | anyone have anything to say? | 18:20 |
| ociuhandu | anteaya: I have one question: How are selected the CI’s whose results appear on the right side of the patch page? | 18:20 |
| ociuhandu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116268/ | 18:20 |
| ociuhandu | i see there Cisco CI, Huawey CI and Jenkins | 18:21 |
| anteaya | ociuhandu: lets deal with that in open discussion? | 18:21 |
| anteaya | which is coming up | 18:21 |
| ociuhandu | sure, sorry | 18:21 |
| anteaya | thanks | 18:21 |
| anteaya | next topic then | 18:21 |
| anteaya | #topic Highlighting a Program or Gerrit Account | 18:21 |
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| anteaya | or we could address it here | 18:21 |
| anteaya | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116268/ | 18:22 |
| anteaya | so ociuhandu if you click the button marked "Toggle CI" | 18:22 |
| ociuhandu | yes, i know that part :) | 18:22 |
| anteaya | you can see the comments of all the systems | 18:22 |
| ociuhandu | was referring to the CI’s featured on top | 18:22 |
| ociuhandu | the table on the right of the reviewers list | 18:23 |
| anteaya | you can see that the two systems that are up on the top have comments in the same format as jenkins | 18:23 |
| anteaya | so the parser picks them up | 18:23 |
| anteaya | the systems that are not picked up have a different comment format than jenkins | 18:23 |
| ociuhandu | ok, so the format has to be exactly the same | 18:23 |
| anteaya | so the parser does not pick them up | 18:23 |
| anteaya | ociuhandu: yes | 18:23 |
| ociuhandu | thanks for the clarification | 18:23 |
| anteaya | the parser has to be able to pick them up | 18:23 |
| anteaya | and the parser is based on jenkins format | 18:23 |
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| anteaya | ociuhandu: welcome, thanks for the question | 18:24 |
| anteaya | anyone else with questions on this item? | 18:24 |
| anteaya | anyone else with questions or points about a specific gerrit account? | 18:24 |
| anteaya | which brings us to the last topic of the day | 18:25 |
| anteaya | #topic Open Discussion | 18:25 |
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| anteaya | anyone with anything they want to discuss? | 18:25 |
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| anteaya | motion to adjurn? | 18:26 |
| daya_k | yes, should be ok. i'll review the puppet module proposal with a +1, thanks for clarifying | 18:27 |
| anteaya | s/adjurn/adjourn | 18:27 |
| anteaya | daya_k: thanks for asking, I didn't know this direction wasn't clear | 18:27 |
| ociuhandu | I have no other questions for the moment, thanks | 18:27 |
| anteaya | well if noone has anything else, I'll adjourn | 18:28 |
| anteaya | ociuhandu: thanks | 18:28 |
| daya_k | anteaya : i might have missed a meeting when this was discussed, but it helps | 18:28 |
| daya_k | thanks | 18:28 |
| anteaya | thanks for showing up everybody | 18:28 |
| anteaya | have a good week | 18:28 |
| anteaya | #endmeeting | 18:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:28 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 1 18:28:33 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:28 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2014/third_party.2014-09-01-18.00.html | 18:28 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2014/third_party.2014-09-01-18.00.txt | 18:28 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2014/third_party.2014-09-01-18.00.log.html | 18:28 |
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| ociuhandu | have a great week all, bye | 18:28 |
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| lucasagomes | hi, who is here for the Ironic meeting? | 18:59 |
| romcheg1 | \o | 18:59 |
| dtantsur | o/ | 18:59 |
| lucasagomes | heh aight, so there's only 4 of us (with mrda) | 19:00 |
| dtantsur | let's have release and nova update and call it a day | 19:00 |
| mrda | \o | 19:00 |
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| lucasagomes | +1 | 19:01 |
| mrda | :) | 19:01 |
| lucasagomes | #startmeeting Ironic | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 1 19:01:09 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is lucasagomes. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic' | 19:01 |
| lucasagomes | welcome all | 19:01 |
| lucasagomes | so there's only 4 people to the meeting we are going to do some quick updates and that's it :) | 19:01 |
| wanyen | hi | 19:01 |
| lucasagomes | oh one more | 19:01 |
| lucasagomes | hello wanyen | 19:01 |
| lucasagomes | #topic Greetings, roll-call and announcements | 19:01 |
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| GheRivero | o/ | 19:01 |
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| lucasagomes | today is holiday in US (Labor Day) so we don't have all the people here | 19:02 |
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| lucasagomes | devananda will be back from burning man this week :) | 19:02 |
| harshada_kakad | o/ | 19:02 |
| lucasagomes | and it seems that the tripleo check on our gate is now broken :( | 19:02 |
| lucasagomes | the bug is this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tripleo/+bug/1351466 | 19:02 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1351466 in tripleo "can't copy '.../cisco_cfg_agent.ini': doesn't exist " [Critical,In progress] | 19:02 |
| lucasagomes | any other announcements? | 19:02 |
| JoshNang | horizon is underway | 19:03 |
| lucasagomes | yay hi there JoshNang | 19:03 |
| JoshNang | i've got most of the api part finished (few bugs in tests) and aweeks has the frontend mostly written afaik | 19:03 |
| JoshNang | hi lucasagomes! | 19:04 |
| wanyen | JoshNag, we need to work with on on adding UEFI boot to horizon | 19:04 |
| lucasagomes | JoshNang, awesome | 19:04 |
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| lucasagomes | alright let's bring it up later on in the meeting | 19:04 |
| lucasagomes | #topic Release cycle progress report | 19:04 |
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| lucasagomes | #link https://launchpad.net/ironic/+milestone/juno-3 | 19:04 |
| wanyen | s/Josh/Nag/Josh/Nang | 19:04 |
| lucasagomes | stats: 1 started, 4 Needs Code Review, 9 Implemented | 19:05 |
| lucasagomes | our Feature Freeze is coming!!!!! (Sep 4, this Thursday) | 19:05 |
| lucasagomes | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Juno_Release_Schedule | 19:05 |
| lucasagomes | compared with last week we have 2 more bps marked as Implemented (yay) | 19:05 |
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| lucasagomes | 2 out of the 4 that needs code review already has a +2 so they may land very very soon | 19:05 |
| lucasagomes | that's uefi and drac mgmt interface | 19:05 |
| lucasagomes | we still have one bp with no code upstream, the author updated me today | 19:06 |
| wanyen | ilo virtual media iscsi still have one patch to land, allother 3 patches have landed. | 19:06 |
| lucasagomes | tl;dr the code's ready, tests are ready, just gated on their internal release processes right now | 19:06 |
| lucasagomes | wanyen, w00t! | 19:06 |
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| lucasagomes | so let's keep up with the reviews, we have till Thursday :) | 19:06 |
| lucasagomes | any questions / comments on the J3 release cycle? | 19:07 |
| wanyen | we need folks to review ilo/ipa driver. | 19:07 |
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| lucasagomes | wanyen, yes, that's defintely a priority for us this week | 19:07 |
| lucasagomes | all the J3 code that still need review, we have to prioritize that | 19:07 |
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| wanyen | for UEFI, we also have ilo/uefi drivertath need review | 19:08 |
| lucasagomes | wanyen, right, that doesn't depend on the current ilo patch in the review queue does it? | 19:09 |
| lucasagomes | (for the oob virtual media stuff) | 19:09 |
| lucasagomes | oh it does | 19:09 |
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| lucasagomes | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116561/ | 19:09 |
| lucasagomes | alright yeah, we gotta take a look at it as well | 19:10 |
| wanyen | It is build on ilo virtual media drives. We added mode mode check and dynamic m=boot mode changes onto it | 19:10 |
| lucasagomes | gotcha | 19:10 |
| * lucasagomes added to the list of things to review tomorrow | 19:10 | |
| wanyen | s/mode mode/boot mode | 19:10 |
| lucasagomes | alirght, any other c/q? | 19:10 |
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| dtantsur | let's move on | 19:11 |
| lucasagomes | aight moving on... (was waiting 1 min) | 19:11 |
| lucasagomes | #topic SubTeam: Nova Driver status | 19:11 |
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| lucasagomes | mrda, hi | 19:11 |
| mrda | Hi | 19:11 |
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| lucasagomes | any news on the Nova driver? | 19:12 |
| mrda | So last week we had the great unknown cpu_arch controversy | 19:12 |
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| mrda | I've pushed up a solution to that review comment | 19:12 |
| mrda | but no resolution yet | 19:12 |
| lucasagomes | yup, right so in the review ur canonicalizing the arch right? | 19:12 |
| mrda | it appears the public holiday meant everyone disappeared for an extra long weekend, or at least from a review perspecrtive | 19:13 |
| mrda | lucasagomes: correct, we now canonicalize | 19:13 |
| mrda | it was stated by a nova coer that the patch would not be accepted without it | 19:13 |
| lucasagomes | right, it would be great to have Daniel Berrange to take a look at that patch tomorrow | 19:13 |
| lucasagomes | yeah | 19:13 |
| mrda | Yes, I'll chase again once I wake up in a few hours, but realistically there will be no more review until tomorrow | 19:14 |
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| lucasagomes | yeah :( | 19:14 |
| mrda | that's patch 4. There's been no major review on patch 5 | 19:14 |
| mrda | so I am hoping there's not problems there | 19:15 |
| mrda | (6 and 7 are noops almost, should be fine) | 19:15 |
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| mrda | It wil be close :) | 19:15 |
| lucasagomes | mrda, so (I know it's hard to say) but are we kinda confident that the driver is going to get merged soonish? | 19:15 |
| mrda | So even Daniel B suggested Nova let the first few that are ready merge | 19:16 |
| mrda | it makes no sense to let some of it land | 19:16 |
| mrda | so I'm taking that to mean our harshest critic thinks it will land | 19:16 |
| lucasagomes | indeed, it's passing tests and all | 19:16 |
| lucasagomes | awesome! | 19:16 |
| lucasagomes | yeah *fingers crossed* | 19:16 |
| lucasagomes | any other q/c about the nova driver? | 19:17 |
| mrda | It will depend upon whether the driver gets eyeballs this week, that's the bottom line | 19:17 |
| mrda | not from me:) | 19:17 |
| lucasagomes | mrda, yeah, I'm trying to review the reviews of the driver as they appear | 19:17 |
| mrda | thanks lucasagomes | 19:17 |
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| lucasagomes | mrda, thank you! | 19:17 |
| lucasagomes | alright moving on then... | 19:18 |
| lucasagomes | #topic SubTeam: Bug team | 19:18 |
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| lucasagomes | dtantsur, here you go! | 19:18 |
| dtantsur | hi, only stats today | 19:18 |
| dtantsur | Open: 131 (-5). 11 new (+3), 40 in progress (-1), 0 critical, 15 high (-1) and 4 incomplete (-1) | 19:18 |
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| lucasagomes | oh -5 is good | 19:18 |
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| dtantsur | I'm both occupied and sick and can't really spend time on it, sorry :( | 19:18 |
| dtantsur | but yeah, some were closed | 19:19 |
| lucasagomes | dtantsur, that's all good, you have that nice dashboard there that helps a lot as well | 19:19 |
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| lucasagomes | alright, any one has questions or comments about bugs? | 19:19 |
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| lucasagomes | the bugs tagged to J3, 3 are not finished yet | 19:20 |
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| lucasagomes | and 2 of them are about docs | 19:20 |
| lucasagomes | so there's no problem in bumping the docs to J4 (that's one of the focus of that milestone) | 19:20 |
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| lucasagomes | and the other one not finished yet is a low priority one about i18n | 19:21 |
| lucasagomes | so we are quite good on the bugs for J3 | 19:21 |
| lucasagomes | alright, thanks dtantsur | 19:21 |
| lucasagomes | #topic SubTeam: Oslo | 19:22 |
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| lucasagomes | GheRivero, hi there | 19:22 |
| lucasagomes | any news on oslo? | 19:22 |
| GheRivero | no. everything is calmed in summer :) | 19:22 |
| lucasagomes | GheRivero, no news is good news :) | 19:22 |
| lucasagomes | thanks GheRivero | 19:22 |
| GheRivero | i doubt there would be any more libs released so close to the frozen period | 19:22 |
| lucasagomes | anyone has comments or question oslo related ? | 19:22 |
| lucasagomes | GheRivero, right, do you think we should remove this topic from the meeting until K opens? | 19:23 |
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| GheRivero | lucasagomes: sure. If anything pops up, I will readd it again | 19:23 |
| lucasagomes | GheRivero, alright, thanks for that | 19:23 |
| lucasagomes | ok moving on | 19:24 |
| lucasagomes | #topic SubTeam: integration & testing work | 19:24 |
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| lucasagomes | adam_g`, are u here? | 19:24 |
| lucasagomes | anyone has updates on this topic? | 19:25 |
| lucasagomes | romcheg1, maybe? | 19:25 |
| romcheg1 | sec | 19:25 |
| lucasagomes | ack | 19:25 |
| romcheg1 | sorry I had dirty hands :) | 19:25 |
| lucasagomes | so one thing is, as far as I remember from the previous meeting the nova baremetal to ironic job upgrade is in | 19:26 |
| romcheg1 | So DB migration tool is merged now | 19:26 |
| lucasagomes | and we can do a "check experimental" to trigger it | 19:26 |
| lucasagomes | romcheg1, w00t | 19:26 |
| romcheg1 | adam_g` left a comment that we might not need the flavor update tool at all | 19:26 |
| romcheg1 | I think we need devanand1 to discuss that | 19:27 |
| romcheg1 | Anyway, I updated it today and it can be reviewed | 19:27 |
| lucasagomes | right, romcheg1 the comment is in the patch on gerrit? | 19:27 |
| lucasagomes | do you have the link handy there? | 19:27 |
| romcheg1 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112575/ | 19:27 |
| lucasagomes | romcheg1, awesome thanks | 19:28 |
| romcheg1 | Yes, the comment is in Gerrit | 19:28 |
| lucasagomes | any other question or comment about the integration and testing stuff? | 19:28 |
| romcheg1 | not from me | 19:29 |
| lucasagomes | ok then, thanks romcheg1 | 19:29 |
| lucasagomes | moving on | 19:29 |
| lucasagomes | #topic SubTeam: Ironic Python Agent | 19:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "SubTeam: Ironic Python Agent (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:29 | |
| lucasagomes | jroll, hi, are you there? | 19:29 |
| lucasagomes | JoshNang, maybe you have some update on IPA? | 19:30 |
| JoshNang | lucasagomes: i think the testing jobs are very nearly merged | 19:30 |
| lucasagomes | o/ | 19:30 |
| lucasagomes | JoshNang, have a link handy? | 19:31 |
| * lucasagomes tries to find the review | 19:31 | |
| lucasagomes | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112693/ | 19:31 |
| lucasagomes | there we go | 19:31 |
| JoshNang | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ipa-todos | 19:31 |
| lucasagomes | about cutting a release for the J cycle, do we have position on it? | 19:31 |
| lucasagomes | cutting a release for IPA* | 19:32 |
| JoshNang | i believe we will be | 19:32 |
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| lucasagomes | alright, thanks JoshNang for the updates | 19:32 |
| lucasagomes | anyone has any comments or question about it? | 19:32 |
| lucasagomes | ok moving to the open discussion then :) (that was quick) | 19:33 |
| lucasagomes | #topic Food for Thought / Open Discussion | 19:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Food for Thought / Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Ironic)" | 19:33 | |
| lucasagomes | wanyen, JoshNang UEFI and horizon maybe? | 19:34 |
| lucasagomes | are you guys in sync about what needs to be done there? | 19:34 |
| wanyen | need to allow adminto specify boot mode from Horizon | 19:34 |
| JoshNang | so my priority right now is to get the most basic support up ASAP and then we can iterate on each feature required | 19:34 |
| JoshNang | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/117376/ | 19:35 |
| lucasagomes | wanyen, to change the boot mode we simple need to add UEFI to the capabilities of the node right? | 19:35 |
| JoshNang | ^ is my api review | 19:35 |
| * lucasagomes clicks | 19:35 | |
| JoshNang | i don't think i have all the testing fixes i was doing on friday up yet | 19:35 |
| wanyen | yes. use nava/exta/capability | 19:35 |
| wanyen | is Horizon for Kilo or Juno? | 19:36 |
| lucasagomes | wanyen, awesome, that sounds pretty simple to integrate | 19:36 |
| lucasagomes | wanyen, K | 19:36 |
| JoshNang | wanyen: so, when adding the node, they specify uefi in the capabilities, and for a user to boot it, they pick a uefi powered flavor? | 19:36 |
| lucasagomes | wanyen, we first need Ironic to be an integrated (AFAICT) | 19:36 |
| wanyen | JoshNang, yes add uefi in cap when adding a node and use exta spec /capa bility to specify boot mode | 19:37 |
| JoshNang | AFAIK, we'll propose horizon panels/api in J so the TC can see we made a good faith effort, and then it'll get accepted in K after ironic is accepted in J | 19:37 |
| JoshNang | wanyen: sweet. that's pretty easy | 19:38 |
| lucasagomes | JoshNang, ah nice! | 19:38 |
| lucasagomes | anyone has any other topic that wants to be discussed ? | 19:39 |
| lucasagomes | ok so I think we can finish it a bit early today | 19:40 |
| lucasagomes | thanks everybody! | 19:40 |
| lucasagomes | #endmeeting | 19:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:41 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 1 19:41:05 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-09-01-19.01.html | 19:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-09-01-19.01.txt | 19:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic/2014/ironic.2014-09-01-19.01.log.html | 19:41 |
| lucasagomes | thanks all | 19:41 |
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| nati_ueno | hi | 20:58 |
| mestery | Hi Neutron people! | 20:58 |
| mestery | nati_ueno: Howdy sir! | 20:58 |
| marun | hi | 20:58 |
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| nati_ueno | mestery: hi sir! | 20:58 |
| mestery | marun: Hey there. | 20:58 |
| zhhuabj | hi | 20:58 |
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| obondarev_ | hi | 20:58 |
| * mestery has hopes this will be a quick meeting today ... | 20:59 | |
| enikanorov__ | hi | 20:59 |
| salv-orlando | aloha | 20:59 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | hi | 20:59 |
| salv-orlando | mestery: I think non-US based people don’t care... | 20:59 |
| kevinbenton | Hi | 20:59 |
| markmcclain | o/ | 20:59 |
| emagana | buenas! | 21:00 |
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| mestery | salv-orlando: Why would they not care about havingt a shorter meeting? :) | 21:00 |
| mestery | #startmeeting networking | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 1 21:00:21 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mestery. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| gus | hey | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:00 |
| mestery | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings Agenda | 21:00 |
| mestery | #topic Announcements | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:00 | |
| mestery | The end of Juno is near. | 21:00 |
| mestery | FF is this week on Thursday (8-4). | 21:00 |
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| mestery | #info FF is Thursday, 8-4-2014. | 21:01 |
| mestery | Any BP which doesn't land has long odds to make Juno at that point because it will require a FFE | 21:01 |
| mestery | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/juno-3 | 21:01 |
| salv-orlando | mestery: good so I won’t bother reviewing anything | 21:01 |
| mestery | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-juno-release Etherpad tracking L3 HA, ipset, and security group RPC refactoring reviews | 21:01 |
| salv-orlando | if FF is expired by 4 weeks aready ;) | 21:01 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: Heh :) | 21:01 |
| yamamoto | 9-4? | 21:02 |
| mestery | #info FF is Thursday, 9-4-2014 | 21:02 |
| mlavalle_ | mestery: you meant 9-4-14, didn't you? | 21:02 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: Good catch | 21:02 |
| * mestery just made everyone with an oustanding BP do a spit take | 21:02 | |
| * mlavalle_ LOL | 21:02 | |
| mestery | Any questions on the FF and the end of Juno at this point? | 21:02 |
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| emagana | its a test to find out who is awake! | 21:02 |
| mestery | emagana: :P | 21:03 |
| * markmcclain wonders whether to troll and ask if the feature freeze is Apr-9 or Sep-4 | 21:03 | |
| nati_ueno | zzz | 21:03 |
| mestery | Excellent! | 21:03 |
| mestery | One other note here: | 21:03 |
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| mestery | #info The new meeting schedule will start soon (e.g. alternating meetings). We'll start that next week, email to the ML incoming. | 21:04 |
| rkukura | hi - sorry I’m late | 21:04 |
| mestery | #action mestery to send email about rotating meeting schedule | 21:04 |
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| mestery | rkukura: Hey sir, hope you're enjoying Labor Day weekend ;) | 21:04 |
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| mestery | Any other announcements for the team from anyone? | 21:04 |
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| mestery | #topic Bugs | 21:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:05 | |
| mestery | enikanorov__: Hi! | 21:05 |
| enikanorov__ | hi | 21:05 |
| enikanorov__ | there is a couple of bugs that trigger rechecks most: | 21:05 |
| enikanorov__ | bug 1349617 | 21:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1349617 in neutron "test_volume_boot_pattern fails in grenade with "SSHException: Error reading SSH protocol banner[Errno 104] Connection reset by peer"" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1349617 | 21:06 |
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| enikanorov__ | failures with this one are seen quite often | 21:06 |
| mestery | enikanorov__: Yes, I was guessing that one was high on the list | 21:06 |
| salv-orlando | still a half mistery for me. | 21:06 |
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| salv-orlando | all I can do is point at instance metadata | 21:06 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: Does this one happen with nova-network as well as neutron? | 21:07 |
| marun | mistery = misery + mystery? | 21:07 |
| salv-orlando | mestery: hits nova network mostly on grenade job. | 21:07 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: Ack | 21:07 |
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| salv-orlando | mestery: but it hits neutron tests which are not executed with nova network | 21:07 |
| salv-orlando | so afaict it might as well be a problem affecting nova-network as well. | 21:07 |
| salv-orlando | I will try and nail down the issue this week. | 21:08 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: Thanks for driving this one! | 21:08 |
| salv-orlando | if you have any ideas or intuitions let me know. | 21:08 |
| enikanorov__ | ok, another one is bug 1314313, i'm going to take care of it | 21:08 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1314313 in neutron "Firewall fails to become active within 300 seconds" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1314313 | 21:08 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: Will do | 21:08 |
| salv-orlando | mestery: anyway we’re positive is the instance booting without user data | 21:08 |
| mestery | enikanorov__: That FW bug, is that the same one we were hitting early in Juno? | 21:08 |
| enikanorov__ | mestery: I has to look at it, yet, so I can't say for sure | 21:09 |
| mestery | enikanorov__: Ack | 21:09 |
| SumitNaiksatam | enikanorov_: that second one is only in the DVR experimental gate job right? | 21:09 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | enikanorov_: and that too should be fixed after a tempest patch merges | 21:10 |
| enikanorov__ | SumitNaiksatam: not only as I can see in reports | 21:10 |
| SumitNaiksatam | enikanorov__: last week when i checked it was only in the dvr jobs, thats when i had pointed it out to you | 21:10 |
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| SumitNaiksatam | the issue earlier on that one was that the router was not ready when the firewall was created | 21:11 |
| mestery | enikanorov__ SumitNaiksatam: It sounds like this one is under control then? Is a root cause known yet? | 21:11 |
| enikanorov__ | indeed, dvr jobs only | 21:11 |
| SumitNaiksatam | mestery: most of the time it was because the l3_agent was not responding | 21:11 |
| enikanorov__ | so SUmit is right | 21:11 |
| enikanorov__ | anyway, going to take care of it this week | 21:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | enikanorov__: mestery: for the DVR jobs this will be fixed since armando had a fix for the tempest tests itself | 21:12 |
| enikanorov__ | SumitNaiksatam: goot to know! | 21:12 |
| enikanorov__ | *d | 21:12 |
| SumitNaiksatam | the fix on the neutron side is already merged | 21:12 |
| mestery | SumitNaiksatam: OK, thanks! | 21:13 |
| enikanorov__ | and another bug with attention is bug 1357476 | 21:13 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1357476 in neutron "Timeout waiting for vif plugging callback for instance" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1357476 | 21:13 |
| enikanorov__ | it also triggers a few failures per week | 21:13 |
| salv-orlando | I think arosen already has a patch for this> | 21:13 |
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| zhhuabj | if it's related with this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115719/ | 21:14 |
| zhhuabj | not sure | 21:14 |
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| enikanorov__ | could you add "Related-Bug: " in commit message? | 21:15 |
| enikanorov__ | so far it seems no patch is addressign the bug | 21:15 |
| zhhuabj | sure | 21:15 |
| enikanorov__ | ok, on the bug side there was an issue iwth setup script, but the fix has been merged already | 21:16 |
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| mestery | enikanorov__: Great! | 21:16 |
| mestery | enikanorov__: Thanks for the bugs update and for your work triaging bugs! | 21:16 |
| enikanorov__ | another one worth mentioning is lock wait timeouts in router scheduling happening in dvr jobs | 21:16 |
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| enikanorov__ | but that might have been already addressed by armax's refactoring | 21:17 |
| enikanorov__ | unfortunately i don't have bug id for this | 21:17 |
| mestery | enikanorov__: Is that one still seen post armax's refactoring? | 21:17 |
| mestery | enikanorov__: OK | 21:17 |
| enikanorov__ | that's all from my side | 21:17 |
| mestery | enikanorov__: Thank you sir! | 21:17 |
| mestery | #topic Team Discussion Topics | 21:17 |
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| mestery | I'd like to mention that Kilo specs will open up after RC1 is finished. | 21:18 |
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| mestery | This will allow the team to focus on bugs and docs during the RC phase. | 21:18 |
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| mestery | One more item here: markmcclain, can you give us an update on the neutron incubator? | 21:18 |
| mestery | #info Neutron specs for Kilo will open after RC1 is finished. | 21:19 |
| markmcclain | mestery: yes | 21:19 |
| mestery | markmcclain: thanks! | 21:19 |
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| markmcclain | jeblair raised some good concerns on the ML about the current plan | 21:19 |
| markmcclain | so we'll revise it a bit | 21:19 |
| markmcclain | but the current items we're incubating on slated for standalone projects | 21:20 |
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| mestery | markmcclain: Thanks for the update! | 21:21 |
| markmcclain | depending on gate backlog we'll get hte repo running this week | 21:21 |
| mestery | markmcclain: ack | 21:21 |
| rkukura | markmcclain: I’m not seeing any emails on the thread from jeblair. Do you have a link to an archive? | 21:22 |
| mestery | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/044125.html | 21:22 |
| mestery | rkukura: ^^^^ | 21:22 |
| markmcclain | mestery: thanks for retrieving | 21:23 |
| mestery | markmcclain: np | 21:23 |
| mestery | Any other incubator questions? | 21:23 |
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| mestery | OK, lets move on then. | 21:24 |
| mestery | #topic Parity | 21:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Parity (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:24 | |
| mestery | markmcclain: Back again ;) | 21:24 |
| mestery | Any updates this week? | 21:24 |
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| markmcclain | nothing too major… working on migration workflow | 21:25 |
| markmcclain | since that will likely drive some extended work in Kilo | 21:25 |
| mestery | markmcclain: nice! | 21:25 |
| markmcclain | that's all I've got for parity | 21:26 |
| mestery | I wanted to point out the review for defaulting devstack to neutron: | 21:26 |
| mestery | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105785/ | 21:26 |
| mestery | Do we want to push to enable this after FF this week? | 21:26 |
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| markmcclain | yeah.. while not likely to disrupt the gate prob best to wait until after rush | 21:27 |
| mestery | #info mestery to work to merge patch to default devstack to neutron after FF | 21:27 |
| mestery | Thanks for the update markmcclain! | 21:27 |
| markmcclain | mestery: you're welcome | 21:27 |
| mestery | #topic Docs | 21:27 |
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| mestery | emagana: Hi there! | 21:27 |
| emagana | mestery: Hello! | 21:27 |
| emagana | Last week I reported already the agreements for the Admin Guide changes | 21:28 |
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| emagana | Nothing to report! | 21:28 |
| mestery | emagana: OK, thanks! | 21:29 |
| mestery | emagana: I think once FF hits we should begin to buckle down on docs for the release. | 21:29 |
| mestery | #topic Tempest | 21:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tempest (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:29 | |
| mestery | mlavalle_: Any updates this week? | 21:29 |
| emagana | mestery: Absolutely, we need to know what will be merged and what will not | 21:29 |
| mestery | emagana: ++ | 21:29 |
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| mlavalle_ | mestery: yes. doing code reviews of api tests. In particular provider networks and multi-provider extension | 21:30 |
| mestery | mlavalle_: Very good! | 21:30 |
| mlavalle_ | mestery: zzelle has a couple of patchsets that in my opinion are ready to merge | 21:30 |
| mlavalle_ | mlavalle_: I am also converting the current lbaas basic scenario to the tempest client. | 21:31 |
| mlavalle_ | mestery: and then I will use it as a base to create a scenario test for LBaaS 2 | 21:31 |
| mestery | mlavalle_: Nice! | 21:31 |
| mlavalle_ | mestery: enikanorov__ asked me help with a ipv6 test to review | 21:32 |
| mlavalle_ | mestery: which I will do | 21:32 |
| mlavalle_ | mestery: and that's all I have | 21:32 |
| mestery | mlavalle_: Excellent and thank you! | 21:32 |
| mestery | #topic Open Discussion | 21:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:32 | |
| mestery | In the interest of keeping this meeting short, lets move to Open Discussion | 21:33 |
| emagana | mestery: +1 | 21:33 |
| mestery | I encourage people to continue reviewing the BPs linked here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-juno-release | 21:33 |
| * mestery notes the gate is fairly quiet right now .... | 21:33 | |
| mestery | I will send a note to the ML about the new meeting time starting next week. | 21:33 |
| * mlavalle_ glad he was brief... Don't want to stand between the meeting and the rest of the holiday | 21:33 | |
| mestery | mlavalle_: ;) | 21:33 |
| kevinbenton | Neutron doesn’t work on 12.04 any more because of the dnsmasq version requirement | 21:34 |
| ajo__ | I have been tracking the ipset work with hanzhang , and we found something were it can be optimized, | 21:34 |
| kevinbenton | is there a process guideline for those kind of deprecations? | 21:34 |
| ajo__ | we found excesive system calls to build ipsets, | 21:34 |
| mestery | kevinbenton: Is there a newer version of dnsmasq in cloud archives? | 21:34 |
| salv-orlando | ajo_: how long will it take in rough terms? | 21:34 |
| kevinbenton | mestery: i’m not familiar with that, what is it? | 21:34 |
| ajo__ | but as long as we can have a FFE for the ipset we have a simple optimization we can do using the save/restore functionality of ipset | 21:34 |
| mestery | kevinbenton: Not sure what you mean, I think the IPV6 changes required the newer dnsmasq right? | 21:35 |
| ajo__ | salv-orlando I think we can have it around tomorrow. | 21:35 |
| salv-orlando | mestery: nope. I had to rebuild our devstack images for the CI | 21:35 |
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| salv-orlando | ajo__: that’s good then. | 21:35 |
| mestery | kevinbenton: It's a place where anyone who uses 12.04 goes to get softrware written >= the last 2 years ;) | 21:35 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: Interesting | 21:35 |
| kevinbenton | mestery: i thought the version increase was get rid of workarounds | 21:36 |
| kevinbenton | didn’t realize it was a hard requirements | 21:36 |
| kevinbenton | requirement* | 21:36 |
| HenryG | Somewhere there is a note saying that Juno will not support Ubuntu 12.04 (or is it the other way around?). | 21:36 |
| salv-orlando | considering that the ubuntu LTS release is now trusty unless other main distros are shipping dnsmasq<2.63 I think the minimum requirement is acceptable. | 21:36 |
| mestery | HenryG: That's entirally likely, 12.04 is quite literally ancient, and infra has moved to 14.04 for almost everything | 21:37 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: ++ | 21:37 |
| ajo__ | mestery, salv-orlando I'd also love to see the ProcessMonitor for external processes merged during juno-3, I know it's med-prio, but it's getting a good amount of review and I'm very happy about how it works: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/neutron+branch:master+topic:bp/agent-child-processes-status,n,z | 21:37 |
| ajo__ | it's something that we're leaving behind release after release | 21:37 |
| mestery | ajo__: I'll take a look, I hope salv-orlando can as well. | 21:37 |
| kevinbenton | but it is still supported… | 21:37 |
| ajo__ | sorry for the current state, as recent merge conflicted the work, but it's already worked out for the first patch in the chain, | 21:37 |
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| salv-orlando | ajo__: I’d love to see all blueprints merged ;) | 21:37 |
| ajo__ | next to be rebased tonight | 21:37 |
| kevinbenton | oh well, an upgrade to Juno is as good a time as any to change the underlying OS | 21:38 |
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| mestery | Lets see what we can still merge before FF this week. | 21:38 |
| amotoki | the quesiton is OpenStack does not support Ubuntu 12.04. IMO Ubuntu 12.04 supports openstack juno if they want. | 21:38 |
| mestery | Thanks for joining everyone! | 21:38 |
| ajo__ | salv-orlando, yeah, me too, I understand we have priorities, but it's a "bug" we have been suffering for long :) | 21:38 |
| mestery | amotoki: Right, it's the other way around, I agree. | 21:39 |
| ajo__ | anyway, if not merged It will be understood | 21:39 |
| emagana | mestery: ma7be just adding a note on the installation guide | 21:39 |
| emagana | maybe* | 21:39 |
| mestery | emagana: I'll add it to the release notes for Juno for sure (the version requirement for dnsmasq) | 21:39 |
| amotoki | emagana: +1 and release notes. | 21:39 |
| mestery | And make a note that 12.04 stock doesn't have a version high enough | 21:39 |
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| kevinbenton | it does work if you compile the latest manually | 21:40 |
| kevinbenton | so that could be listed as a workaround if 12.04 is required | 21:40 |
| mestery | kevinbenton: ++ | 21:40 |
| ajo__ | kevinbenton, what's our version requirement at the moment? | 21:40 |
| ajo__ | for dnsmasq, I mean | 21:40 |
| amotoki | ajo__: dnamasq >= 2.63 now | 21:41 |
| ajo__ | thanks amotoki | 21:41 |
| mestery | OK, thanks everyone! | 21:42 |
| mestery | #endmeeting | 21:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 1 21:42:12 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-09-01-21.00.html | 21:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-09-01-21.00.txt | 21:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2014/networking.2014-09-01-21.00.log.html | 21:42 |
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| ajo__ | Cheers :) | 21:42 |
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| emagana | ciao ciao!!! | 21:43 |
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