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| Daisy | Hello | 08:00 |
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| Daisy | Who is around for I18n meeting? | 08:00 |
| epico | hi | 08:01 |
| ujuc | hi :) | 08:01 |
| Daisy | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 08:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 18 08:01:42 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Daisy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 08:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 08:01 |
| Daisy | Good afternoon, epico & ujuc | 08:02 |
| Daisy | Anybody else? | 08:02 |
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| epico | good afternoon :) | 08:02 |
| Daisy | Fdot won't join. He told me. | 08:03 |
| Daisy | So let's start. | 08:03 |
| Daisy | Today we will check Horizon translation progress and collect issues if you have. | 08:03 |
| Daisy | #topic Horizon translation progress check and issue collection | 08:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Horizon translation progress check and issue collection (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 08:04 | |
| Daisy | ujuc: You did a good work in Horizon translation. | 08:04 |
| ujuc | thanks :) | 08:04 |
| Daisy | You are almost complete. | 08:04 |
| Daisy | Just pay attention to the ML these days if there are string changes, somebody will send email to our ML. | 08:04 |
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| Daisy | Chinese team have good progress too. | 08:05 |
| Daisy | But I'm worry about some languages like: Russian, Hindi, Serbian, and Dutch | 08:05 |
| Daisy | I'm lost contact with these language coordinators. | 08:06 |
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| Daisy | fifieldt_: if you are there, come and have a chat. | 08:07 |
| Daisy | I think, I have to ask help from community. Let's wait and see. | 08:07 |
| Daisy | so now issues collection. | 08:07 |
| Daisy | we get some emails in I18n ML to inform us string changes. | 08:08 |
| Daisy | including a email from Yves-Gwenaël Bourhis. | 08:08 |
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| Daisy | He listed some patches, with 40+ string changes. | 08:09 |
| Daisy | These patches are in order to improve translations of "action+noun". | 08:09 |
| Daisy | I think they are useful, and the changes are not much. | 08:10 |
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| Daisy | So I prefer to merge them in these release. | 08:10 |
| Daisy | agree or not? | 08:10 |
| chandankumar | Daisy, For Hindi I and rajeshr is here | 08:10 |
| Daisy | Thanks, chandankumar | 08:10 |
| mariantb | hi all, sorry t be late | 08:10 |
| Daisy | I have confidence on you. I'm sure you will make it. | 08:10 |
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| Daisy | Hi, mariantb | 08:10 |
| ujuc | hi | 08:11 |
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| Daisy | We are talking about the patches in Yves-Gwenaël Bourhis's email. | 08:11 |
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| Daisy | several patches to Horizon, with 40+ strings affected, in order to improve the translation of "action+noun". | 08:11 |
| Daisy | Agree to merge or not? | 08:11 |
| Daisy | http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-i18n | 08:12 |
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| Daisy | Sorry, wrong link. | 08:12 |
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| ujuc | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2014-September/000746.html | 08:13 |
| Daisy | Thanks, ujuc. | 08:13 |
| Daisy | agree to merge or not? | 08:13 |
| ujuc | I agree | 08:13 |
| Daisy | thanks, ujuc. | 08:14 |
| mariantb | agree | 08:14 |
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| Daisy | thanks. | 08:14 |
| Daisy | Then I will reply this mail and let him know we agree. | 08:14 |
| Daisy | While you are translating, do you have any problems? | 08:15 |
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| Daisy | no problems and issues. | 08:16 |
| Daisy | Great ! | 08:16 |
| ujuc | :)) | 08:16 |
| Daisy | Then let's work together to catch our goal: complete your language translation before Oct 2nd. | 08:16 |
| Daisy | Thank you all. | 08:16 |
| Daisy | Next topic | 08:16 |
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| Daisy | #open discussion | 08:16 |
| Daisy | #topic open discussion | 08:17 |
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| Daisy | I got three language requests related with "Spanish" | 08:18 |
| Daisy | in Transifex | 08:18 |
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| Daisy | Spanish (United States) | 08:18 |
| Daisy | Spanish (Argentina) | 08:18 |
| Daisy | Spanish (Latin America) | 08:18 |
| Daisy | I don't know if I should agree with these new language team request or not. | 08:19 |
| Daisy | I have no ideas about the differences among these Spanish languages. | 08:19 |
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| Daisy | Now we have Spanish and Spanish (Mexico) | 08:20 |
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| Daisy | mariantb_: your thoughts? | 08:20 |
| Daisy | mariantb: your thoughts? | 08:21 |
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| mariantb_ | As for Spanish I can see we are at 93 in two of the Juno pojects | 08:21 |
| mariantb_ | I will send an email to encourage participation again | 08:21 |
| mariantb_ | if we have engagement I think we'll be able to finish | 08:22 |
| Daisy | I agree, I think you could, mariantb_ . | 08:22 |
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| Daisy | I got three language requests: Spanish (United States), Spanish (Argentina), Spanish (Latin America) | 08:23 |
| Daisy | Shall I agree them ? mariantb_ | 08:23 |
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| Daisy | There are three new language team requests in Transifex: Spanish (United States), Spanish (Argentina), Spanish (Latin America) | 08:23 |
| mariantb_ | are we going to share TM? | 08:23 |
| Daisy | Do we really need so many Spanish team ? | 08:23 |
| mariantb_ | apparently someone thinks so :) it is true that we have some differences | 08:24 |
| Daisy | I think NO | 08:24 |
| mariantb_ | but so many Spanish is too much | 08:24 |
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| Daisy | We already have 2 now: Spanish and Spanish (Mexico). | 08:24 |
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| mariantb_ | normally in localisation industry you have two big blocks: Spanish (Spain) and Spanish (LatAm) | 08:25 |
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| mariantb_ | I am not coordinating anything from the Mexico one, don't know who is in charge there | 08:25 |
| Daisy | Nothing happened there, actually. | 08:25 |
| Daisy | I don't see the team activities from Mexico. | 08:25 |
| mariantb_ | ok | 08:25 |
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| Daisy | So I will deny these three requests and ask them to send email to our ML, Let's have an open discussion if they want to apply. | 08:26 |
| mariantb_ | agree | 08:26 |
| Daisy | I have rejected several Chinese language requests before. :) | 08:26 |
| mariantb_ | we are also using the general Openstack in Spanish mailing list to communicate | 08:27 |
| Daisy | ok. | 08:27 |
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| Daisy | I have done all things I want to talk. Any topics from you? | 08:27 |
| Daisy | it looks like we have a very short meeting today. | 08:28 |
| mariantb_ | sorry maybe it has already been asked. Can we share the test website with as many people as we can? | 08:28 |
| Daisy | You mean, the test website from Akihiro? | 08:28 |
| mariantb_ | yes | 08:28 |
| Daisy | It's only for translation test. | 08:28 |
| Daisy | Not for OpenStack test. | 08:28 |
| mariantb_ | ok, because we are using the general Spanish mailing list, where there are users who are not involved in the i18n team | 08:29 |
| mariantb_ | I will use Trnasifex then | 08:29 |
| Daisy | And you cannot create volumes many times. | 08:29 |
| mariantb_ | thanks | 08:29 |
| Daisy | mariantb_: Akihiro's server is not powerful at all. If you want to include more people to do the translation test, I think it's OK. | 08:30 |
| Daisy | I think we'd better not broadcast the website. | 08:30 |
| mariantb_ | ok | 08:30 |
| mariantb_ | yes that is what I thought | 08:30 |
| Daisy | Akihiro's server could support several translators testing at the same time, just be cautious not to create many volumes. | 08:31 |
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| mariantb_ | ok | 08:32 |
| amotoki | (though i am in another meeting) except volume size my server can be used by multiple folks. | 08:32 |
| Daisy | I'm contacting with Infra team to ask for powerful test machines. it may not get ready so soon. I hope we could use the new test server next release. | 08:32 |
| amotoki | japanese team does so. | 08:32 |
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| Daisy | thanks for jumping out, amotoki. | 08:33 |
| Daisy | any other questions? | 08:34 |
| ujuc | no | 08:34 |
| Daisy | if no, we could end the meeting then. | 08:34 |
| mariantb_ | no | 08:34 |
| Daisy | Thank you all for joining. | 08:34 |
| Daisy | Let's keep closely contact till we finish this release. | 08:34 |
| amotoki | any announce on the date? | 08:34 |
| mariantb_ | thanks | 08:35 |
| Daisy | Pay attention to the ML. | 08:35 |
| Daisy | amotoki: what date? | 08:35 |
| amotoki | Horizon RC1 is now planned around Aug 25. | 08:35 |
| amotoki | Translation import can be in RC2 too. | 08:35 |
| Daisy | How about Horizon RC 2? | 08:35 |
| Daisy | The deadline I set to translators is Oct 2nd. | 08:36 |
| amotoki | Until RC1, all transifex translations are synced with git repo automatically. | 08:36 |
| Daisy | Do you think it's OK? | 08:36 |
| amotoki | i am not sure the exact date on RC2. | 08:36 |
| amotoki | It depends on situation, so I would like suggest to set the deadline to Sep 30. | 08:36 |
| Daisy | Juno release is Oct 16. So I think Oct 2nd is a safe date. | 08:36 |
| amotoki | s/deadline/first target/ | 08:37 |
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| -amotoki- I am not sure I can follow the deadline carefully in this release. | 08:38 | |
| Daisy | I have announced in the mailing list and the deadline is set as Oct 2nd. | 08:38 |
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| amotoki | I think it is time to define the official time line to import translations. | 08:39 |
| Daisy | I know each project could decide their own date for RC2. | 08:39 |
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| amotoki | as a release management (at now it is only related to Horizon) | 08:39 |
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| Daisy | who could define the official time line to import translation? | 08:39 |
| amotoki | For stable update release, I already have an agreement that translation patch freeze is three days after the freeze. | 08:40 |
| Daisy | During our previous release, manually import is done after RC1, right? | 08:40 |
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| Daisy | How many imports did you do in last release? | 08:40 |
| amotoki | I believe this kind of the time line should be defined/agreed across projects. | 08:40 |
| amotoki | git log.... now | 08:41 |
| Daisy | It's only related with horizon, in this release. | 08:41 |
| Daisy | We only translate Horizon this time. | 08:41 |
| Daisy | so, only related with Horizon. | 08:41 |
| amotoki | i think only once (around RC2) | 08:41 |
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| Daisy | Once is good enough. | 08:42 |
| amotoki | and update translations in 2014.1.2 update. | 08:42 |
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| Daisy | amotoki: as I said, the manual translation import is only related with Horizon. Horizon could decide the date to import translation in RC2. | 08:43 |
| Daisy | So I hope while Horizon team is talking about the release schedule, you could help me to inform them that our translators set the translation deadline as Oct. 2nd. | 08:44 |
| Daisy | The formal Juno release date is Oct 16th. Oct 2nd is two weeks before. | 08:45 |
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| ujuc | RC2 list date 10/2 .... translation deadline is 9/30?? | 08:45 |
| ujuc | s/list/last/g | 08:45 |
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| Daisy | nobody know RC2 date yet. | 08:46 |
| ujuc | a... ha :) | 08:47 |
| Daisy | based on my experience, RC2 date depends on many things. | 08:47 |
| Daisy | team usually decide RC2 date after RC1. | 08:47 |
| Daisy | and the progress of important patches. | 08:47 |
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| Daisy | amotoki: I know you are in another meeting. Let's talk after the meeting. | 08:49 |
| Daisy | I will close this one now. | 08:49 |
| Daisy | Thank you all for attending! | 08:49 |
| Daisy | #endmeeting | 08:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 18 08:49:35 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2014/openstack_i18n_meeting.2014-09-18-08.01.html | 08:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2014/openstack_i18n_meeting.2014-09-18-08.01.txt | 08:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2014/openstack_i18n_meeting.2014-09-18-08.01.log.html | 08:49 |
| mariantb_ | thank you all | 08:50 |
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| ujuc | :) have a good day | 08:50 |
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| isviridov | Hey MagentoDB! | 13:00 |
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| isviridov | Let us start | 13:00 |
| ajayaa | Hi everyone! | 13:00 |
| achudnovets | Hi! | 13:00 |
| ikhudoshyn_ | o/ | 13:01 |
| ominakov- | hello! | 13:01 |
| isviridov | #startmeeting magnetodb | 13:01 |
| rushiagr | hello all! | 13:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 18 13:01:16 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is isviridov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: magnetodb)" | 13:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'magnetodb' | 13:01 |
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| isviridov | hello everybody | 13:01 |
| dukhlov | Hello | 13:01 |
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| rushiagr | o/ | 13:02 |
| ajayaa | o/ | 13:02 |
| isviridov | Let me find the agenda :) | 13:02 |
| * rushiagr tries to find out the agenda | 13:02 | |
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| ajayaa | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/MagnetoDB/WeeklyMeetingAgenda | 13:02 |
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| isviridov | ajayaa, thank you | 13:02 |
| ajayaa | isviridov, welcome! | 13:03 |
| isviridov | #topic Juno milestone status | 13:03 |
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| isviridov | So, we have released juno-3 milestone with a lot of implemented blueprints and bugs | 13:04 |
| ajayaa | that's great. | 13:04 |
| isviridov | #link https://launchpad.net/magnetodb/juno/juno-3 | 13:04 |
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| isviridov | Actually it is our first release of mdb following openstack versioning. | 13:05 |
| isviridov | And it mostly just a cut of what we have done. | 13:06 |
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| isviridov | We have also released python-magnetodbclient | 13:06 |
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| rushiagr | but we are not stopping feature development in the RC cycle as of now, am I right? | 13:07 |
| ajayaa | Where are the python-magnetodbclient and cli located? | 13:07 |
| rushiagr | ajayaa: https://github.com/stackforge/python-magnetodbclient | 13:08 |
| ikhudoshyn_ | rushiagr, yes, several things are not i merged yet | 13:08 |
| isviridov | rushiagr, yeap. You are right. There is no expectation from us about strict following the procedure. However we will avoid huge features, giving the priority for bugs. | 13:09 |
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| rushiagr | isviridov: okay. I think it is fine even if we put features in for this cycle | 13:09 |
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| isviridov | We have now BP approvement process, so any new feature will be agreed with team | 13:10 |
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| rushiagr | anyways we're not 'releasing' anything. Nobody is going to package it, so blocking features for J cycle will only hamper development efforts | 13:10 |
| isviridov | ajayaa, #link https://launchpad.net/python-magnetodbclient | 13:10 |
| rushiagr | from K hopefully we'll be mature enough to follow 'no features in RCs plz' funda | 13:10 |
| rushiagr | isviridov: cool | 13:11 |
| isviridov | rushiagr, yeap. Usually packaging efforts start from incubation. From my expierene with in Trove | 13:11 |
| ikhudoshyn_ | in fact, i believe we'll have it packaged once we hit release, but not RC of course | 13:12 |
| rushiagr | ikhudoshyn_: oh, okay. That's good to know | 13:12 |
| ajayaa | ikhudoshyn_, Can you please elaborate a bit on aync table creation and deletion? | 13:12 |
| ikhudoshyn_ | sure, | 13:13 |
| isviridov | ikhudoshyn_, not sure about it. There is effort withing Symantec, but not public | 13:13 |
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| keith_newstadt | rushiagr: are there new features in particular that you're looking to start development on, or that you'd like to see implemented? | 13:13 |
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| ikhudoshyn_ | ajayaa, we'll pass a lil'bit later to that | 13:14 |
| isviridov | keith_newstadt, ajayaa let go thourg agenda | 13:14 |
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| isviridov | Next topic? | 13:14 |
| rushiagr | keith_newstadt: I'd like to look into trove integration more, but we can discuss it once it's turn comes :) | 13:15 |
| ikhudoshyn_ | isviridov, I meant having mdb in pypi at least, don't expect rpms or debs | 13:15 |
| ikhudoshyn_ | isviridov, +1 to next topic | 13:15 |
| isviridov | #topic Asynchronous table creation and removal | 13:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Asynchronous table creation and removal (Meeting topic: magnetodb)" | 13:16 | |
| isviridov | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnetodb/+spec/async-schema-operations | 13:16 |
| isviridov | ikhudoshyn_, news? | 13:16 |
| ikhudoshyn_ | here they go | 13:16 |
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| ajayaa | Is table creation not asynchronous now? | 13:17 |
| ikhudoshyn_ | well, we faced a situation when several concurrent table create/delete requests could get C* crazy | 13:17 |
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| ikhudoshyn_ | so what we want is to have all such requests executed one by one | 13:18 |
| ajayaa | Are we looking at some kind of scheduling of table creations? | 13:18 |
| ajayaa | or just one by one for table creation? | 13:18 |
| rushiagr | ikhudoshyn_: It would be great if a detailed spec is written on what is going to be implemented | 13:18 |
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| ikhudoshyn_ | before that we had async_storage_manager that did the job, but per API node basis | 13:18 |
| * isviridov thinks that SPEC could help a lot with all questions | 13:18 | |
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| ikhudoshyn_ | rushiagr, sure, it will get published pretty soon | 13:19 |
| isviridov | #action ikhudoshyn_ write spec | 13:19 |
| ajayaa | ikhuddoshyn_, How many concurrent table creations get c* crazy in your experience? | 13:19 |
| ikhudoshyn_ | in brief, we gonna use standard MQ shipped with OS via oslo.messaging.rpc | 13:19 |
| rushiagr | isviridov: the spec (BP) says "Suggested implementation includes...", but nothing concrete.. | 13:20 |
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| ikhudoshyn_ | ajayaa, it depends on several factors. We first started to observe that on up to 30 concurrent requests | 13:20 |
| isviridov | rushiagr, +1 we need more detailed description | 13:20 |
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| ajayaa | And how many nodes in c*? | 13:21 |
| ikhudoshyn_ | but (recoverable) networking issues could cause it even without any load at all | 13:21 |
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| rushiagr | I'm +1 on the feature. It should definitely be asynchronous, with a limit on the number of concurrent create/delete table operations a user can perform | 13:21 |
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| isviridov | ikhudoshyn_, I've filed an action for you to write spec. Ok? | 13:22 |
| ikhudoshyn_ | isviridov, yes, thanks | 13:22 |
| isviridov | Next topic? | 13:22 |
| rushiagr | I would like to review the spec too, when it is put up on launchpad.. | 13:22 |
| ikhudoshyn_ | should we elaborate this topic any more or could we move on? | 13:22 |
| ikhudoshyn_ | rushiagr, I'll publish it ASAP | 13:23 |
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| rushiagr | I think we can move ahead. I'll wait for the detailed spec. Thanks | 13:23 |
| isviridov | #topic Monitoring API | 13:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Monitoring API (Meeting topic: magnetodb)" | 13:23 | |
| isviridov | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnetodb/+spec/monitoring-api | 13:23 |
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| isviridov | ominakov-, around? | 13:24 |
| ominakov- | yep, i've published patch with getting size of table through JMX https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122330/ | 13:25 |
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| isviridov | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122330/ | 13:25 |
| ominakov- | but i faced with some problem about item count | 13:25 |
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| rushiagr | +1 to the nova-specs like writing of blueprint | 13:26 |
| ajayaa | ominakov, isviridov, Are we looking at only two paramemters? table_size and item_count | 13:26 |
| ajayaa | *as a part of monitoring apis. | 13:27 |
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| ominakov- | there are no JMX bean for this metric and from C* 2.1 even node tool don't show this counter | 13:27 |
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| isviridov | ajayaa, currently yes | 13:27 |
| ominakov- | now we looking for this two metrics only | 13:27 |
| isviridov | ominakov-, I think guys from C* could help | 13:28 |
| ominakov- | isviridov, yes i'll ask this question in C* irc today | 13:28 |
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| dukhlov | About problem with C* 2.1 | 13:29 |
| isviridov | ominakov-, looking forward for more details and info from C* guys | 13:30 |
| dukhlov | do you have some links or docs which explains this? | 13:30 |
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| ominakov- | dukhlov, not yet, i just read the C* code | 13:31 |
| * isviridov thinks that code is good source of true | 13:31 | |
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| rushiagr | quick question: table size is in KBs (storage) or number of rows/items (count)? | 13:31 |
| isviridov | rushiagr, both | 13:32 |
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| isviridov | rushiagr dukhlov ominakov- moving on? | 13:32 |
| rushiagr | isviridov: sure | 13:32 |
| ominakov- | so, if anyone have some ideas for that - welcome | 13:33 |
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| ominakov- | isviridov, yep | 13:33 |
| isviridov | ominakov-, sure | 13:33 |
| isviridov | #topic Light weight session for authorization | 13:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Light weight session for authorization (Meeting topic: magnetodb)" | 13:33 | |
| isviridov | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/magnetodb/+spec/light-weight-session | 13:33 |
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| isviridov | Oh, it is not assigned | 13:33 |
| isviridov | achudnovets, around? | 13:33 |
| achudnovets | yep | 13:33 |
| achudnovets | We are using keystonemiddleware package for token-auth now. It can cache tokens. In memory or in memcached. | 13:34 |
| isviridov | What do we do with it? | 13:34 |
| achudnovets | Now I'm researching how tokens without service catalog impacts magnetodb performance. | 13:34 |
| achudnovets | I think there will be not great impact, but still we need to know it for sure. | 13:34 |
| achudnovets | Mb we'll need to change client code to enforce it turn service catalog off. | 13:34 |
| achudnovets | Even in case if we hav'n big performance boost we can turn service catalog off to avoid this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1190149 | 13:35 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1190149 in heat/havana "Token auth fails when token is larger than 8k" [Critical,Fix committed] | 13:35 |
| keith_newstadt | also good to reduce overall network traffic | 13:35 |
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| * isviridov would like to avoid adding additional session layer | 13:35 | |
| ajayaa | +1 isviridov | 13:35 |
| rushiagr | +1. | 13:36 |
| achudnovets | +1 | 13:36 |
| keith_newstadt | +1 | 13:36 |
| aostapenko | +1 | 13:36 |
| rushiagr | why don't we just use the short UUID token of keystone, which is now the default? will that involve a call to keystone for every request? | 13:36 |
| isviridov | keith_newstadt, PKI token without katalog it is about 1KB, it is close to body size | 13:36 |
| keith_newstadt | we'd need some numbers to show that it's worthwhile before we'd implement it | 13:36 |
| isviridov | keith_newstadt, +1 | 13:37 |
| rushiagr | keith_newstadt: +1 | 13:37 |
| keith_newstadt | rushiagr: right, UUID causes a callback to keystone on every request | 13:37 |
| ajayaa | rushiagr, yes | 13:37 |
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| achudnovets | rushiagr: +1 to keith_newstadt comment | 13:37 |
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| keith_newstadt | we have use cases where clients will be making 10s of thousands of requests per second | 13:38 |
| isviridov | rushiagr, yes it is. We will kill keystone with mdb | 13:38 |
| keith_newstadt | that is too much load to put on keystone | 13:38 |
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| ajayaa | or worse we will have a slow mdb! | 13:38 |
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| isviridov | #action achudnovets provide numbers about performance impact from big PKI token in ML | 13:39 |
| isviridov | achudnovets, is it ok with you? | 13:39 |
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| achudnovets | isviridov: sure | 13:39 |
| isviridov | achudnovets, keith_newstadt rushiagr ajayaa moving on? | 13:40 |
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| keith_newstadt | sounds good | 13:40 |
| achudnovets | +1 | 13:40 |
| rushiagr | keith_newstadt: does keystone return the time for which that token is valid? if yes, (say one hour), we need not make call to keystone for that one hour, provided the user uses the same token | 13:40 |
| isviridov | #topic Next meeting arrangement | 13:40 |
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| achudnovets | rushiagr: yes, it does | 13:40 |
| rushiagr | sorry, I'm a newbie to keystone. We can take these questions later too, if it is blocking important items | 13:41 |
| ajayaa | rushiagr, the token could be revoked! | 13:41 |
| rushiagr | ajayaa: oh. damn | 13:41 |
| achudnovets | and actually tokens can be revoked on server side. So client checks revoken tokens time to time | 13:41 |
| rushiagr | okay, let's move ahead to the next topic | 13:41 |
| ajayaa | rushiagr, keystonemiddleware polls keystone to get a list of revoked tokens. | 13:42 |
| isviridov | rushiagr, not really but, let us keep an order and continue discussion in mdb channel or in open topic section | 13:42 |
| isviridov | So, the meeting time and day | 13:42 |
| rushiagr | isviridov: agree. Thanks | 13:42 |
| isviridov | Are you ok to have this meeting weekly exactly this time? | 13:42 |
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| ajayaa | +1 | 13:43 |
| ikhudoshyn_ | +1 | 13:43 |
| achudnovets | it's ok for me | 13:43 |
| aostapenko | +1 | 13:43 |
| dukhlov | +1 | 13:43 |
| achuprin_ | +1 | 13:43 |
| rushiagr | +1 from me | 13:43 |
| ominakov- | +1 | 13:43 |
| rushiagr | I'm +1 for having this earlier too, but -1 on having it later in the day :) | 13:43 |
| isviridov | #agreed every Thuersday 1300 UTC at #openstack-meeting | 13:43 |
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| keith_newstadt | +1 | 13:44 |
| isviridov | And here open discussion come :)) | 13:44 |
| isviridov | #topic Open discussion | 13:44 |
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| isviridov | keith_newstadt, is charles around? | 13:45 |
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| isviridov | Really wanted to say my congratulations ^) | 13:45 |
| ajayaa | How about keeping a count of items in c* itself and have monitoring-api use it? | 13:46 |
| keith_newstadt | he's on his way | 13:46 |
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| isviridov | keith_newstadt, I'll see him in #magnetodb layer if so | 13:46 |
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| isviridov | ajayaa, I think eventually we will do it for some time concuming metrics. | 13:47 |
| ajayaa | time consuming metrics? | 13:47 |
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| ajayaa | Can you give an example please? | 13:47 |
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| isviridov | count is a good example | 13:48 |
| ajayaa | The metric which takes time to collect, oh okay. | 13:49 |
| isviridov | There was a good question | 13:49 |
| isviridov | rushiagr: are there new features in particular that you're looking to start development on, or that you'd like to see implemented? | 13:49 |
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| isviridov | ajayaa, exactly sorry for confusing | 13:49 |
| rushiagr | isviridov: I'd like to have auto-managed cassandra clusters | 13:49 |
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| dukhlov | I don't know how do we know that item exists or not in cassandra | 13:49 |
| rushiagr | isviridov: in short, I'd like to see trove part done, atleast in part | 13:49 |
| isviridov | rushiagr, it sounds like Trove programm | 13:50 |
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| rushiagr | isviridov: yeah, I agree. Not much w.r.t. magnetoDB as of today | 13:50 |
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| keith_newstadt | rushiagr: what is the "trove part"? | 13:51 |
| rushiagr | I would like us to have an easy way to manage, and scale cassandra clusters in cloud | 13:51 |
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| rushiagr | keith_newstadt: This, is necessary IMO before magnetoDB can be used as a service properly. This mostly comes under trove | 13:52 |
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| keith_newstadt | rushiagr: so you're looking to be able to deploy mdb using trove to deploy and manage cassandra? | 13:53 |
| rushiagr | I agree that managing and scaling of cassandra nodes come under trove | 13:53 |
| keith_newstadt | +1 | 13:53 |
| isviridov | rushiagr, you know we thought about having trove as alternative cassandra provider. But it is not ready for that. | 13:54 |
| keith_newstadt | rushiagr: is there additional featurework that you feel needs to be done inside of mdb to support this? | 13:54 |
| rushiagr | is there going to be an altenative of trove's cssandra in mdb? | 13:55 |
| isviridov | rushiagr, another side of it, trove works within tenant and spins up VMs for databases. What is not always good for performace. | 13:55 |
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| rushiagr | keith_newstadt: i've not looked into MDB into that much of a detail yet. | 13:55 |
| ajayaa | isviridov, what if cassandra nodes use ephmeral storage rather than cinder volume? | 13:56 |
| rushiagr | isviridov: I agree. Ephemeral disks work best for c* | 13:56 |
| isviridov | rushiagr, deployed under the cloud on the same level as swift and other OS services | 13:56 |
| keith_newstadt | rushiagr: i think trove is potentially a good option for deploying cassandra, which mdb can then use. heat is another option. | 13:57 |
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| isviridov | keith_newstadt, +1 for heat for deployment | 13:57 |
| rushiagr | i'llrestart myclient. It is eatin a lot of caracters | 13:57 |
| keith_newstadt | rushiagr: not sure if there's much we'd need to do in mdb specifically to support either | 13:57 |
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| isviridov | rushiagr, keith_newstadt we are mostly out of time. Let us move our discussion to #magnetodb | 13:58 |
| rushiagr | ok, seems better now, my keyboard :) | 13:58 |
| rushiagr | isviridov: sure! | 13:58 |
| rushiagr | thanks folks! It was nice talking to you :) | 13:59 |
| isviridov | Thank you guys! | 13:59 |
| aostapenko | Thanks! | 13:59 |
| keith_newstadt | sounds good | 13:59 |
| isviridov | #endmeeting | 13:59 |
| ajayaa | Thank you guys. | 13:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 18 13:59:11 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/magnetodb/2014/magnetodb.2014-09-18-13.01.html | 13:59 |
| keith_newstadt | great meeting! | 13:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/magnetodb/2014/magnetodb.2014-09-18-13.01.txt | 13:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/magnetodb/2014/magnetodb.2014-09-18-13.01.log.html | 13:59 |
| achudnovets | Thanks! | 13:59 |
| dougwig | o/ | 13:59 |
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| charlesw | Sorry missed the party. It didn't appear on my calendar. | 13:59 |
| dougwig | #startmeeting neutron lbaas | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 18 14:00:08 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dougwig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_lbaas' | 14:00 |
| evgenyf | hello | 14:00 |
| dougwig | morning lbaas | 14:00 |
| rm_you | morning | 14:00 |
| dougwig | agenda: | 14:00 |
| dougwig | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/LBaaS#Meeting_18.09.2014 | 14:00 |
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| sbalukoff | o/ | 14:00 |
| dougwig | #topic Announcements | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: neutron lbaas)" | 14:00 | |
| dougwig | a few items to highlight from the neutron meeting | 14:00 |
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| dougwig | fyi, freenode was hacked: | 14:01 |
| dougwig | #link https://blog.freenode.net/2014/09/server-issues-2/ | 14:01 |
| xgerman | o/ | 14:01 |
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| dougwig | and i'd like to highlight the octavia review query link: | 14:01 |
| dougwig | #link http://bit.ly/1wqy47t | 14:01 |
| dougwig | any other announcements? | 14:01 |
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| dougwig | moving on | 14:02 |
| dougwig | #topic Incubator update | 14:02 |
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| TrevorV | o/ | 14:02 |
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| dougwig | mestery, any updates for us? | 14:02 |
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| mestery | dougwig: Did markmcclain talk to you or sballe? | 14:02 |
| mestery | dougwig: He was supposed to, if he hasn't, then no updates. | 14:03 |
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| blogan | hello | 14:03 |
| dougwig | i can't speak for sballe, but i haven't heard from him | 14:03 |
| xgerman | sballe is running late | 14:03 |
| xgerman | and might not make this meeting | 14:03 |
| blogan | i havent heard anythign either | 14:03 |
| mestery | dougwig: OK, no update now, lets wait for sballe (I'm talking to her later today for a different issue) | 14:03 |
| dougwig | ok | 14:03 |
| mestery | #action mestery to resolve neutron incubator issues this week | 14:03 |
| dougwig | moving on to another item of note from the neutron meeting... | 14:03 |
| dougwig | #topic Kilo Design Summit Etherpad | 14:03 |
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| dougwig | details of the design summit planning are out | 14:04 |
| dougwig | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/045844.html | 14:04 |
| dougwig | here is the etherpad for neutron: | 14:04 |
| dougwig | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-neutron-summit-topics | 14:04 |
| dougwig | and the overall link to all etherpads: | 14:04 |
| dougwig | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Planning | 14:04 |
| dougwig | Neutron sessions will be on Wednesday and Thursday, Cross-project track is Tuesday, Friday is for program pods | 14:04 |
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| dougwig | go forth and edit. | 14:04 |
| blogan | how would a project get a session? | 14:05 |
| xgerman | those LBaaS sessions are v1, v2, or Octavia? | 14:05 |
| blogan | lbaas udp? | 14:05 |
| xgerman | LBaaS udp | 14:05 |
| xgerman | LBaaS HA | 14:05 |
| xgerman | LBaas Monitoring and alerting | 14:05 |
| xgerman | LBaaS - Security groups | 14:05 |
| xgerman | of course | 14:05 |
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| dougwig | mestery: should octavia sessions be in the neutron etherpad, or somewhere on their own? | 14:06 |
| mestery | dougwig: Put them in the neutron pad for now if that makes sense | 14:06 |
| mestery | dougwig: We'll see how it falls out. | 14:06 |
| blogan | since there is one for v2, I suppose those are for v1 or just a LBaaS and general | 14:06 |
| mestery | Make sense? | 14:06 |
| xgerman | since we are LBaaS I am puzzled who put them in | 14:07 |
| dougwig | if we're putting network program items in that one, it makes sense to me. | 14:07 |
| dougwig | someone put in lbaas udp? haha, sweet. :) | 14:08 |
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| blogan | i thought it'd of been you | 14:08 |
| xgerman | wasn't me :-) | 14:08 |
| sbalukoff | Huh. | 14:08 |
| dougwig | does anyone want to brainstorm what sessions we want/need here? time is limited, so we'll want to be pretty crisp in what we request. | 14:08 |
| rm_you | maybe it was mestery? :P | 14:08 |
| xgerman | anyhow should we change LBaaS HA -> Octvia HA | 14:09 |
| mestery | I think it was markmcclain :P | 14:09 |
| blogan | im not sure we know exactly what we will want to discuss when that time comes | 14:09 |
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| dougwig | blogan: that implies that maybe we just want to aim for the pods? | 14:09 |
| xgerman | well, we want to sort of approve the bleuprints for our first release | 14:09 |
| * TrevorV keeps seeing lbaas udp... is that serious? | 14:09 | |
| blogan | dougwig: i thnk we'd get a lot more done there | 14:10 |
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| sbalukoff | Are the pods more informal? I worry that we'd miss out on people attending who don't know as much about Octavia if we're meeting ad-hoc in the pods. | 14:10 |
| xgerman | +1 | 14:11 |
| blogan | sbalukoff: yeah you're probably right | 14:11 |
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| dougwig | are we at the point where having 100 people attend is useful? i personally don't want a huge session without a crisp focus just because we want a large group | 14:11 |
| blogan | though I don't see octavia getting approved for a design session, but it doesn't hurt to try | 14:11 |
| xgerman | Are we ok with the proposed LBaaS topics? Should they be Octavia topics? | 14:11 |
| xgerman | I am missing stuff like L7 we used to work on... SNI | 14:12 |
| sbalukoff | I don't even know what all host LBaaS topics are about: We certainly haven't seen them discussed here or on the ML in the last month. | 14:12 |
| dougwig | personally, i think there are too many proposed right now. | 14:12 |
| sbalukoff | They should be Octavia topics, eh. | 14:12 |
| xgerman | and that worries me since we are LBaaS | 14:12 |
| blogan | well we definitely need to talk about v2 | 14:13 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: +1 | 14:13 |
| dougwig | blogan: perhaps your "agent for all drivers" proposal? | 14:13 |
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| blogan | i thought you weren't a fan of that | 14:13 |
| xgerman | exception/error model | 14:13 |
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| sbalukoff | who is "pcm"? | 14:13 |
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| blogan | xgerman: the agent for all drivers would lead to that | 14:13 |
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| dougwig | blogan: heh, i'm not a fan of broccoli either. people still eat it. | 14:13 |
| xgerman | blogan put it on the agenda | 14:14 |
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| sbalukoff | In any case, I think we can come up with some Octavia-specific design summit ideas and add them here. what's the deadline for adding new stuff? | 14:15 |
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| dougwig | check the ML link. | 14:16 |
| TrevorV | So LBaaS UDP was a serious topic? | 14:16 |
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| sbalukoff | TrevorV: I can't imagine it is. | 14:16 |
| TrevorV | Its on the list... | 14:16 |
| sbalukoff | But I don't know who 'pcm' is, who I think added it. | 14:16 |
| dougwig | TrevorV: i don't think so. mark is still planning that one at a bar, afaik | 14:16 |
| rm_you | I think that was the "meet everyone for LBaaS in a pub and have a beer" session :P | 14:16 |
| TrevorV | aaah, I forgot about the location reference | 14:16 |
| TrevorV | :D | 14:16 |
| xgerman | yeah, UDP is our LBaaS party ;-) | 14:17 |
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| dougwig | any last comments here, before we move to a related topic? | 14:17 |
| sbalukoff | LBaaS "Underground Downtown Pub"? | 14:17 |
| xgerman | what are LBaaS security groups? | 14:17 |
| sbalukoff | xgerman: Yeah, I was wondering that, too. | 14:17 |
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| sbalukoff | I guess nobody here knows. XD | 14:18 |
| sbalukoff | Funny. | 14:18 |
| dougwig | #topic Summit meetup | 14:18 |
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| dougwig | who's going to paris, and is someone willing to plan an evening get together? | 14:19 |
| sbalukoff | I'm going. | 14:19 |
| dougwig | i'm going | 14:19 |
| xgerman | me, too +sballe | 14:19 |
| crc32 | rackspace is in limbo right now. | 14:19 |
| a2hill | heh.. | 14:19 |
| sbalukoff | I could check with my team to see if Blue Box wants to host. | 14:19 |
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| blogan | i still have not heard any definitive answer to the limbo we are in about going to Paris | 14:20 |
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| dougwig | we'll put up a cardboard cutout of you during your talk window. | 14:20 |
| rm_you | I am pretty sure at the least blogan, crc32 and I are going, since we already bought tickets... | 14:20 |
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| evgenyf | Samuel, Avishay and myself are going, as for now | 14:21 |
| rm_you | but hopefully they get their shit together and a2hill goes as well | 14:21 |
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| crc32 | at best it would be a2hill,blogan,crc32, and rm-you. a2hill has priority over me on this one. But at worst no one. | 14:21 |
| a2hill | idk if id be the most useful to go, so if they have a lottery ill give up my position to someone that may be more useful. i.e. adam | 14:22 |
| xgerman | Speakers who were not chosen still have the opportunity to present a Tech Talk in the #vbrownbag room. Apply here. | 14:22 |
| a2hill | hopefully that's not the case | 14:22 |
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| dougwig | xgerman: do you have a link for that? | 14:22 |
| xgerman | http://openstack.prov12n.com/techtalks-at-openstack-summit-paris/ | 14:23 |
| rm_you | xgerman: yeah do i need to sign up? I figured maybe it was like, sign up at the door | 14:23 |
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| dougwig | #link http://openstack.prov12n.com/techtalks-at-openstack-summit-paris/ | 14:23 |
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| sbalukoff | rm_you: you want to sign up early. | 14:23 |
| xgerman | yeah, we should put some of the talks which got voted down there (e.g. Octavia) | 14:23 |
| rm_you | k | 14:23 |
| dougwig | #topic Open Discussion | 14:23 |
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| vjay7 | I am late, just joined. was incubuter discussed? | 14:24 |
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| sbalukoff | #action sbalukoff to check with Blue Box team to find out if Blue Box wants to host evening get-together somewhere. | 14:24 |
| xgerman | yes, same as last week | 14:24 |
| rm_you | yeah I was going to do "Barbican Integration for Certificate/Key Storage in Neutron and other Openstack Services" | 14:24 |
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| sbalukoff | rm_you: Go for it! | 14:24 |
| sbalukoff | I suppose I could give a talk on Octavia. | 14:25 |
| xgerman | +1 | 14:25 |
| sbalukoff | We could try collaborating on one-- though I don't know if they're set up for two people on camera. | 14:25 |
| xgerman | yeah, I can speak to that, too :-) | 14:25 |
| TrevorV | you guys can snuggle up in the camera view, right sbalukoff ? | 14:25 |
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| sbalukoff | #action sbalukoff to sign up for vbrownbag talk on Octavia. World rejoices. | 14:26 |
| sbalukoff | Haha! sure! | 14:26 |
| xgerman | lol | 14:26 |
| sbalukoff | Who wants to photobomb an Octavia vbrownbag talk? | 14:26 |
| sbalukoff | We should totally cycle through like 5 people during the 10 minutes we have. XD | 14:26 |
| rm_you | Oh, speaking of which, I still owe the ML some diagrams and such about the Keystone/Barbican/Neutron interaction stuff, but it keeps freaking changing | 14:27 |
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| rm_you | and on that topic, how violently will people be willing to fight against "requiring the user to set up a Trust on their own in advance, probably using a provided template"? | 14:27 |
| xgerman | -1 | 14:27 |
| xgerman | that's not user friendly | 14:28 |
| TrevorV | okay, so xgerman isn't going to fight, that's nice | 14:28 |
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| rm_you | xgerman: *I* know that and agree | 14:28 |
| dougwig | it has precedent if horizon can make it look like an android app install permissions request, but overall, it's fairly silly. | 14:28 |
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| rm_you | but if people don't want to back me, I won't fight it | 14:28 |
| sbalukoff | rm_you: Eew? | 14:28 |
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| rm_you | it's looking more and more like that's going to be the future requirement | 14:28 |
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| dougwig | tell us what link to show up on and drop a mountain of -1's. | 14:29 |
| rm_you | even if we get away with doing it temporarily ourselves, in the end that is going to be the only way | 14:29 |
| blogan | yeah we can put in -1's | 14:29 |
| sbalukoff | rm_you: And that will be the case for all consumers of that functionality, right? (VPNaaS as well, for example)? | 14:29 |
| blogan | dougwig has the right idea | 14:29 |
| a2hill | People are not liking having user set up a trust? | 14:29 |
| rm_you | well, if we REALLY strongly object, then I could use more heads working on this issue -- we need to figure out a secure way to do it that the keystone folks will agree is ok | 14:29 |
| rm_you | sbadia: yes | 14:29 |
| rm_you | err | 14:29 |
| rm_you | sbalukoff: yes | 14:29 |
| a2hill | but would rather have it done for them? | 14:29 |
| rm_you | well, the problem is the first BP that'll come up for it will be mine, for doing it that way because there's no alternative | 14:30 |
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| rm_you | not sure piling -1s on that is constructive :P | 14:30 |
| xgerman | it's claer what's needed and they are not giving it to us | 14:30 |
| crc32 | q-2? | 14:30 |
| rm_you | we need to figure out a secure way to make it work that we're all ok with... tell you what, I'll send out a mail with what I have so far, TODAY, and detail the issue, and maybe we can get some good ideas flowing | 14:31 |
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| dougwig | a2hill: well, is there any other openstack service where you have to go set up boilerplate first? alternately, can you imagine how much fun that will be when it's wired into 20 different things? | 14:31 |
| sbalukoff | rm_you: Good idea! | 14:31 |
| TrevorV | rm_you, +1 | 14:31 |
| dougwig | rm_you: +1 | 14:32 |
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| rm_you | i'm starting to feel like mestery/mark, promising you info and then disappearing for weeks :P | 14:32 |
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| crc32 | I'm heading in. see you guys in a little bit. | 14:32 |
| * rm_you prods mestery | 14:32 | |
| sbalukoff | Ouch. | 14:32 |
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| rm_you | all in good fun | 14:32 |
| dougwig | lol | 14:32 |
| rm_you | anyway, yeah that's it | 14:32 |
| sbalukoff | :) | 14:32 |
| vjay7 | Is the topic over? | 14:32 |
| xgerman | Open Discussion? | 14:32 |
| dougwig | it's open discussion. do you have something? | 14:33 |
| xgerman | vijay7? | 14:33 |
| vjay7 | yes, want to know if there is anyone who has tried setting up HA on a backend | 14:33 |
| xgerman | this is what we are doing Octavia for | 14:33 |
| dougwig | yes, but for me, it's cheating. in what context? | 14:33 |
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| a2hill | dougwig, why would want to allow another service generate a 'trust' that is supposed to be secure. If I allow that service to use it, well thats a different story | 14:33 |
| sbalukoff | vjay2: Not in the context of Neutron LBaaS specifically, but I know our Neutron installs we do HA. (And lots of other non-OpenStack stuff throughout our networks.) | 14:34 |
| a2hill | You had to set up an account to get access to the entire service initially | 14:34 |
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| a2hill | have to make request to get token, so can we take an account id and get the token for them so they dont have to do that either? | 14:34 |
| rm_you | dougwig / a2hill: yeah, it's pretty much a security/usability tradeoff balance, as always | 14:34 |
| a2hill | :/ | 14:34 |
| dougwig | a2hill: if i'm an end user, i already trust all of openstack. i don't know it's a bunch of little fiefdoms, nor do i care. my trust happens when i register. | 14:34 |
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| a2hill | fair enough | 14:35 |
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| sbalukoff | dougwig: +1 | 14:35 |
| dougwig | a2hill: this exposes openstack warts/architecture to the end user, is all. | 14:35 |
| sbalukoff | Which is usually considered "bad" | 14:35 |
| vjay7 | if there are 2 backends that has to be configured for HA. we need to create additional ports servering the same VIP. Other than the port created for VIP by the LBaaS plugin. | 14:35 |
| sbalukoff | vjay2: There are a couple ways of doing this, IIRC. | 14:36 |
| a2hill | I guess i don't see that as a wart, but I get the points you are making dougwig | 14:36 |
| a2hill | +1 we shall battle? | 14:36 |
| vjay7 | IIRC? | 14:36 |
| sbalukoff | if I recall correctly. | 14:37 |
| a2hill | if i remember correctly | 14:37 |
| a2hill | or that | 14:37 |
| vjay7 | ok :-) | 14:37 |
| vjay7 | would like to know more about it | 14:37 |
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| sbalukoff | Sorry, trying to remember exactly how it's done (it's early). I seem to recall one of them uses a specific Neutron plug-in to accomplish it, but I'm not remembering which it is right now. | 14:38 |
| dougwig | it also depends on the HA. if you have a pair of HA appliances that will mimic at the L2 level, nothing. at the L3 level, you can add static routes to the subnets on the hardware appliances, or trust implicit routing and make sure that's setup, or plumb in additional ports. | 14:40 |
| dougwig | or whatever method sbalukoff is going to suggest. | 14:40 |
| vjay7 | How do you make it mimic? | 14:41 |
| vjay7 | ports are created with their own IP address right? | 14:41 |
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| vjay7 | Basically there are 2 issues. (1) How to allow the extra port created to allow IP address in addition to what it was created with. (2) Are there security policies or throughput restrictions applied on the port created for VIP by LBaaS plugin | 14:42 |
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| sbalukoff | Gah... I'm not coming up with it. | 14:42 |
| sbalukoff | I'm going to have to check with Dustin or something when it's not gawd-awful early. :P | 14:43 |
| dougwig | vjay7: the answer to your first question is something like vrrp between the hardware, which is out of scope of lbaas. | 14:43 |
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| dougwig | (2) no | 14:43 |
| xgerman | (2) Neutron per se only allows one port per VIP -- so you would need to switch off the anti-spoofing or add a plugin | 14:43 |
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| dougwig | also depends on if you're talking active-active or active-standby | 14:43 |
| vjay7 | it is active-standby | 14:44 |
| dougwig | then one port per vip is fine, you just have to flip it when a failover happens. | 14:44 |
| dougwig | assuming you can quickly flip N thousands quickly. | 14:45 |
| vjay7 | flip meaning attach the ports to the standby instance? | 14:45 |
| dougwig | is this with an appliance or with the haproxy driver? | 14:45 |
| vjay7 | it is with NetScaler appliance | 14:46 |
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| dougwig | are they doing HA of some kind between themselves, or are you just trying to run two of them in parallel? | 14:46 |
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| vjay7 | they will do HA between themselves. When hearbeat between the appliances fail, the slave will takeover | 14:47 |
| dougwig | ok. can we move this conversation to the lbaas channel after the meeting? | 14:48 |
| vjay7 | ok | 14:48 |
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| dougwig | any other open discussion? | 14:48 |
| blogan | i put up a spec for the octavia operator-api | 14:48 |
| xgerman | yeah!! | 14:49 |
| blogan | not neutron lbaas related | 14:49 |
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| dougwig | if we want octavia to be the ref backend, i consider it neutron lbaas related. | 14:49 |
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| xgerman | we do want to make it that ;-) | 14:49 |
| dougwig | last chance for discussion, or we'll end early... | 14:50 |
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| vjay7 | a dumb question. I have not been active in the MLs. Was there any news on incubator stuff and its process? Any links to read | 14:51 |
| vjay7 | Will projects in incubation be packaged but default switched OFF and any admin can turn it on? | 14:51 |
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| blogan | vjay7: you are just as ifnormed as we are without being updated for the last 2 months | 14:51 |
| dougwig | as far as i know, this is the latest info: | 14:51 |
| dougwig | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Incubator | 14:51 |
| vjay7 | thanks! | 14:52 |
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| dougwig | ok, let's let stephen get back to sleep. | 14:52 |
| dougwig | #endmeeting | 14:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 18 14:53:03 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_lbaas/2014/neutron_lbaas.2014-09-18-14.00.html | 14:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_lbaas/2014/neutron_lbaas.2014-09-18-14.00.txt | 14:53 |
| sbalukoff | :) | 14:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_lbaas/2014/neutron_lbaas.2014-09-18-14.00.log.html | 14:53 |
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| sbalukoff | See y'all in a few hours. | 14:53 |
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| eglynn_ | #startmeeting ceilometer | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 18 15:01:34 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglynn_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:01 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer' | 15:01 |
| eglynn_ | sorry for the late start folks | 15:01 |
| nsaje | o/ | 15:01 |
| gordc | o/ | 15:01 |
| ildikov | o/ | 15:01 |
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| llu-laptop | o/ | 15:01 |
| KurtRao | o/ | 15:01 |
| nealph_ | o/ | 15:01 |
| ityaptin | o/ | 15:01 |
| DinaBelova__ | o/ | 15:01 |
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| eglynn_ | #topic Juno status and FFEs | 15:02 |
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| eglynn_ | #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/juno-rc1 | 15:02 |
| cdent | o/ | 15:03 |
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| eglynn_ | \o/ all FFE BPs are landed since Monday :) | 15:03 |
| eglynn_ | nice work to all concerned | 15:03 |
| nsaje | great! | 15:03 |
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| DinaBelova__ | Nice :) | 15:03 |
| nsaje | should we target https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1369538 to rc1 also? | 15:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1369538 in ceilometer "static resources from pipeline.yaml not partitioned" [Undecided,In progress] | 15:04 |
| eglynn_ | so I did a trawl on rc1-target'd bugs and bumped anything that looked like it wasn't getting enough traction to land my mid next week | 15:04 |
| * eglynn_ looks | 15:04 | |
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| eglynn_ | nsaje: yep, done | 15:04 |
| llu-laptop | how about https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1348818, do we have patch for that now | 15:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1348818 in keystone "Unittests do not succeed with random PYTHONHASHSEED value" [Medium,In progress] | 15:04 |
| llu-laptop | cdent | 15:05 |
| eglynn_ | nsaje: Importance? ... medium? | 15:05 |
| nsaje | eglynn_: yes | 15:05 |
| DinaBelova__ | Really I think this will be useful | 15:05 |
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| cdent | llu-laptop: there remain unclear issues with wsme. I'm not sure how that's resolved... | 15:05 |
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| eglynn_ | gordc: did you have some insight on that PYTHONHASHSEED bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1348818 | 15:06 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1348818 in keystone "Unittests do not succeed with random PYTHONHASHSEED value" [Medium,In progress] | 15:06 |
| gordc | llu-laptop: not sure how to resolve it either. i want to say it's wsme fault but i don't want to incorrectly lead people that way. | 15:06 |
| gordc | eglynn_: ^ | 15:06 |
| gordc | i'll try looking at it again later today i think since i have time. | 15:06 |
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| eglynn_ | gordc: thanks! | 15:06 |
| jd__ | o/ | 15:07 |
| cdent | gordc: feel free to commit on that patchset if something needs to happen | 15:07 |
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| gordc | cdent: will do | 15:07 |
| eglynn_ | so in terms of the time pressure around getting fixed into juno, RC1 will probably be cut next week | 15:08 |
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| eglynn_ | after that we can request an rc2 | 15:09 |
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| eglynn_ | ... but the fix would have to be backported from master to proposed/juno and the level of scrutiny will go up significantly | 15:09 |
| nsaje | understood | 15:09 |
| eglynn_ | ... so best to get everything we know that we need into rc1 if at all poss | 15:09 |
| llu-laptop | eglynn_: all the patch to be merged right now must be related to rc1 bug? | 15:09 |
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| llu-laptop | can we get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121440/ merged? it's a doc bug | 15:10 |
| eglynn_ | llu-laptop: yep, exactly ... no closes-bug tag in the commit message should be a bar to landing | 15:10 |
| llu-laptop | it's a doc patch | 15:10 |
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| llu-laptop | got that | 15:10 |
| nsaje | doc patches should be an exception, no? | 15:10 |
| ildikov | I think so too | 15:10 |
| eglynn_ | llu-laptop, nsaje: yeah, we can prolly make an exception in that case | 15:11 |
| DinaBelova__ | As far as I remember it was somehow defined in rules - and that was the exception | 15:12 |
| DinaBelova__ | Like common case | 15:12 |
| eglynn_ | ... that's good enough for me :) | 15:12 |
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| eglynn_ | shall we move on from rc1? | 15:13 |
| pradk | eglynn_, we have any consensus on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1357869 ? are we thinking of just adding negations in catch-all source for rc1? sounds like its a lot more work to get it fixed in pipeline logic now? | 15:13 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1357869 in ceilometer "duplicate samples for network.services.lb.member" [Medium,In progress] | 15:13 |
| eglynn_ | pradk: TBH I haven't fully worked out the best way of proceeding on that | 15:13 |
| pradk | ok | 15:14 |
| eglynn_ | pradk: ... as discussed on the channel earlier the same logic is involved in an issue with static resources defined in the pipeline | 15:14 |
| pradk | ah ok, i'll go back and read | 15:14 |
| nsaje | unearthed by llu-laptop in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/121586/1/ceilometer/agent.py | 15:15 |
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| pradk | cool | 15:15 |
| llu-laptop | don't understand the root cuase of duplicating samples of network.services.lb.member | 15:15 |
| eglynn_ | #topic TSDaaS/gnocchi status | 15:15 |
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| llu-laptop | :( | 15:16 |
| nsaje | it's the same as what you mentioned in the patch I linked | 15:16 |
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| nsaje | if you define discovery in one source, it applies to all sources | 15:16 |
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| eglynn_ | llu-laptop: it's due to the way that the polling tasks are keyed by meter name instead of by source | 15:16 |
| nsaje | so even catch-all source has network discovery configured (implicitly) | 15:16 |
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| eglynn_ | llu-laptop: does that make sense? | 15:18 |
| llu-laptop | eglynn_: i need to 're-think', looks like my brain jammed now | 15:18 |
| eglynn_ | llu-laptop: cool enough :) | 15:19 |
| eglynn_ | jd__: so some nice progress on gnocchi this week, do you want to elaborate? | 15:19 |
| jd__ | sure | 15:20 |
| jd__ | We moved forward on archive policy implementation and got a lot of things merged | 15:21 |
| jd__ | I think we'll finish final support by next week, fingers crossed | 15:21 |
| eglynn_ | cool :) | 15:21 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn_, as far as I know Mehdi, Igor and Ildiko started collaboraiton on Gnocchi dispatcher | 15:21 |
| jd__ | sileht took over the Ceilometer dispatcher so we're having good progress | 15:21 |
| DinaBelova | jd__, yeah, it is good :) | 15:22 |
| eglynn_ | DinaBelova: yep sileht has proposed https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:stackforge/gnocchi+branch:master+topic:sileht/ceilo-dispatcher,n,z | 15:22 |
| jd__ | I've a few patches to do to enhance the API a bit still | 15:22 |
| jd__ | but from where I stand things are looking pretty good and active, thanks to you guys :) | 15:22 |
| jd__ | we should have something fancy for Juno! | 15:22 |
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| eglynn_ | excellent! :) | 15:23 |
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| eglynn_ | jd__: so are you thinking in terms of an alpha release of gnocchi prior to the summit? | 15:24 |
| jd__ | eglynn_: something like that | 15:24 |
| eglynn_ | ... i.e. something that folks could play with alongside ceilo/juno | 15:24 |
| eglynn_ | cool | 15:24 |
| jd__ | yep | 15:25 |
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| eglynn_ | anything else on gnocchi? | 15:25 |
| sileht | o/ | 15:26 |
| sileht | I have created a devstack patch | 15:26 |
| jd__ | crazy you | 15:26 |
| DinaBelova | wow! | 15:26 |
| eglynn_ | sileht: nice :) | 15:26 |
| sileht | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122349/ | 15:26 |
| ildikov | I saw it just did not have the time to try it yet :) | 15:26 |
| sileht | it needs some patch in gnocchi | 15:27 |
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| sileht | hum, it seems all gnocchi patches needed for devstack is merged :) | 15:28 |
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| eglynn_ | cdent: would sileht's devstack patch above be another example of where your s/screen_it/run_process/ change would make sense? | 15:28 |
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| eglynn_ | cdent: i.e. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122349/1/lib/gnocchi | 15:29 |
| cdent | "make sense" in what sense? | 15:29 |
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| jd__ | in the sense sense? | 15:29 |
| eglynn_ | cdent: as is, "should also be applied to" | 15:29 |
| cdent | basically if something is being started in a screen then run_process can/should be used | 15:29 |
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| cdent | however if somebody uses screen_it then run_process will get called anyway if USE_SCREEN is False | 15:30 |
| DinaBelova | cdent, afaik it'll be something 'start gnocchi api in new srceen' and that's it | 15:30 |
| DinaBelova | so it'll be used, yeah | 15:30 |
| eglynn_ | cdent: k, just checking if it made sense to change explicitly across the board or only for selected services | 15:30 |
| cdent | The plan is that any use of screen_it ought to be replaced with run_process | 15:31 |
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| cdent | there's some ambiguity for things which are services like rabbit | 15:31 |
| cdent | (which are generally started in other ways) | 15:31 |
| eglynn_ | k, fair enough | 15:31 |
| eglynn_ | move on? | 15:32 |
| eglynn_ | #topic Tempest status | 15:32 |
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| eglynn_ | DinaBelova: anything new there to report? | 15:32 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn_, sadly I don't know what happened with the gate workers clean-up | 15:33 |
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| DinaBelova | that was the blocker for our tempest tests | 15:33 |
| DinaBelova | due to my vacation... | 15:33 |
| eglynn_ | a-ha, k | 15:33 |
| gordc | i think we're still in sit and wait mode | 15:33 |
| DinaBelova | gordc, indeed... | 15:33 |
| gordc | side question, did we ever look at setting up pollster tests? | 15:34 |
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| eglynn_ | gordc: the problem was figuring out an acceptable way of accelerating the polling interval | 15:34 |
| vrovachev | gordc: we look, Sead - no :) | 15:34 |
| vrovachev | Sean_ | 15:34 |
| gordc | ok... just asking because i noticed compute agent wasn't running for a few days. | 15:34 |
| DinaBelova | gordc, we tried to start the discussion with QA folks | 15:34 |
| DinaBelova | gordc, yeah, without the tests it's hard to notice.. | 15:35 |
| gordc | i guess something we should track manually for now. | 15:35 |
| cdent | the no-screen stuff that run_process() is supposed to be enabling has not been turned on yet because there are some issues with processes being shut down properly <- hearsay from #os-qa couple days ago | 15:35 |
| DinaBelova | cdent, a-ha, thanks | 15:35 |
| gordc | cdent: i see. | 15:35 |
| eglynn_ | gordc: the compute agent not running in tempest? ... now resolved, or? | 15:35 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn_, in devstack :) | 15:35 |
| gordc | eglynn_: yeah, it's fixed now. it merged this morning | 15:36 |
| gordc | just a devstack config issue. | 15:36 |
| gordc | that's it from me on tempest. :) | 15:37 |
| DinaBelova | me as well | 15:37 |
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| vrovachev | to enable compute agent in jenkins - need to add path to devstack-gate | 15:38 |
| vrovachev | patch_ | 15:38 |
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| eglynn_ | gordc: a-ha, ok ... so it sounds like we're going to have punt on some of these testing scenarios (e.g. polling) that we feel we need, to the kilo "in-tree" functional tests | 15:38 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn_, that was the QA insight afair | 15:39 |
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| gordc | eglynn_: i think so... | 15:39 |
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| eglynn_ | #topic Kilo summit planning | 15:39 |
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| eglynn_ | so the main thing here is just a heads-up that collaborative scheduling for the summit tracks will be the recommended model for kilo | 15:40 |
| eglynn_ | not a million miles from what we did withing the ceilo core team for the juno summit | 15:41 |
| eglynn_ | difference though is that there won't be a CFP webapp this time round for the initial proposals | 15:41 |
| eglynn_ | instead we'll just go directly to some shared document | 15:41 |
| eglynn_ | for now we really just have to aggree on the shared doc format | 15:42 |
| eglynn_ | last time we used a googledoc spreadsheet | 15:42 |
| nsaje | seems like a natural choice | 15:42 |
| eglynn_ | that seemed to work OK, may tallying up the votes etc. easy | 15:42 |
| gordc | works for me. | 15:43 |
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| eglynn_ | this time round some of the other projects are using etherpads | 15:43 |
| DinaBelova | well, it's ok for me as well | 15:43 |
| DinaBelova | hm, that'll be not so working | 15:43 |
| DinaBelova | with so mane features as googledoc has | 15:43 |
| DinaBelova | for me googledoc is still the best here | 15:43 |
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| nealph_ | eglynn: you're speaking to the process of approving, or submitting? | 15:44 |
| ildikov | googledoc worked fine last time I think, so +1 from me too | 15:44 |
| eglynn_ | nealph_: both | 15:44 |
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| * nealph_ thinks of the cinder push for formal specs | 15:44 | |
| eglynn_ | nealph_: last time round the submissions were all done thru a CFP webapp | 15:44 |
| eglynn_ | nealph_: ... then we copied them over to a spreadsheet and the core team agreed on the track content from there | 15:45 |
| nealph_ | got it...okay. | 15:45 |
| eglynn_ | nealph_: ... then the results were copied back to the CFP webapp, which got a bit messy TBH | 15:46 |
| eglynn_ | k, sounds like a googledoc spreadsheet is the consensus | 15:46 |
| eglynn_ | I'll set up a public one, and add the link to the summit wiki | 15:46 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn_, thank you sir | 15:47 |
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| eglynn_ | note that we'll have circa 33% fewer scheduled slots in the track this time | 15:48 |
| eglynn_ | ... as the Friday is being taken up by the free-flowing contributor meetups | 15:48 |
| eglynn_ | ... i.e. the new pod++ | 15:48 |
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| eglynn_ | #topic open discussion | 15:50 |
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| llu-laptop | eglynn_: is this new method same for all project, or just ceilometer? | 15:50 |
| cdent | two from things: a) I'll be gone next week, moving. b) some rally comparisons of icehouse sql sample handling and juno: https://tank.peermore.com/tanks/cdent-rhat/RallySummary (now with visual aids, eglynn_ ) | 15:50 |
| eglynn_ | llu-laptop: it's recommended for all projects, but the details may differ (e.g. etherpad versus googledoc versus some other shared doc format) | 15:50 |
| DinaBelova | llu-laptop - for all, if I'm right - it was decided on one of the TC meetings | 15:51 |
| eglynn_ | cdent: nice :) ... thank you sir! | 15:51 |
| DinaBelova | cdent, a-ha! | 15:51 |
| DinaBelova | "Summary Summary" :) | 15:51 |
| nealph_ | Was asking earlier about work on multi-queue support for the collector...seems like there was a recent patch/bp? Anyone familiar? | 15:52 |
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| eglynn_ | llu-laptop: see http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/045844.html | 15:52 |
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| llu-laptop | eglynn_: thx for the link | 15:52 |
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| eglynn_ | nealph_: I don't recall a patch | 15:52 |
| nsaje | cdent: wow, that looks nice | 15:52 |
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| gordc | sileht: you did something related no? ^ | 15:53 |
| cdent | it definitely seems a good improvement at least for those specific circumstances nsaje | 15:53 |
| gordc | cdent: thanks for the numbers. forgot to look last time | 15:53 |
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| eglynn_ | so far we have two independent sources of verification (from Chris and Ilya's testing) that the sql-a improvments over Juno have yielded significant improvements :) | 15:54 |
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| eglynn_ | ... so this will be excellent data to bring to the TC when they go the final progress review on the gap analysis | 15:55 |
| gordc | nealph_: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/77612/ | 15:55 |
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| gordc | nealph_: was that what you were asking about? | 15:55 |
| gordc | or on collector side specifically? | 15:56 |
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| nealph_ | gordc: bingo, that was it. | 15:56 |
| gordc | nealph_: cool cool | 15:57 |
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| eglynn_ | jd__: is it time we called a result on those core nominations? | 15:57 |
| jd__ | eglynn_: I think we're late | 15:57 |
| eglynn_ | ... I think everyone who is going to vote has done so | 15:57 |
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| jd__ | so yeah | 15:57 |
| eglynn_ | cool | 15:58 |
| * DinaBelova and nsaje are hiding and trying to be around :) | 15:58 | |
| eglynn_ | nsaje & DinaBelova: your plus-two-ability is coming soon :) | 15:58 |
| nsaje | :) | 15:59 |
| DinaBelova | :D | 15:59 |
| gordc | congrats to both of you. | 15:59 |
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| eglynn_ | hear, hear! :) | 15:59 |
| cdent | in what form would you like your bribes? | 15:59 |
| gordc | and thanks for the work | 15:59 |
| DinaBelova | gordc, thanks :) we'll try to be useful further :) | 15:59 |
| gordc | cdent: cash money! | 15:59 |
| DinaBelova | :D | 15:59 |
| ildikov | congrats! :) | 15:59 |
| nsaje | Huge thanks for the recognition guys! | 15:59 |
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| eglynn_ | ... so on that happy note :) | 16:00 |
| DinaBelova | it is really nice, really :) I guess we both are happy :) and happy to work further as well :) | 16:00 |
| nsaje | I'll make a toast to doing more reviews in the future today :) | 16:00 |
| DinaBelova | bye! :) | 16:00 |
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| eglynn_ | ... let's call it a wrap | 16:00 |
| eglynn_ | thanks folks! | 16:00 |
| DinaBelova | see you, and thanks! | 16:00 |
| eglynn_ | #endmeeting ceilometer | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 18 16:00:26 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-09-18-15.01.html | 16:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-09-18-15.01.txt | 16:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-09-18-15.01.log.html | 16:00 |
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| sgordon | ok | 16:02 |
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| sgordon | #startmeeting | 16:02 |
| openstack | sgordon: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee' | 16:02 |
| sgordon | #startmeeting nfv | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 18 16:02:34 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sgordon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nfv' | 16:02 |
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| sgordon | #topic roll call | 16:02 |
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| * sgordon is here | 16:02 | |
| sgordon | who else is about? | 16:02 |
| sgordon | any lucky volunteers to help chair? | 16:02 |
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| cloudon | hi there | 16:03 |
| bauzas | \o | 16:03 |
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| sgordon | so... | 16:04 |
| sgordon | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda | 16:04 |
| sgordon | #topic action items | 16:04 |
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| sgordon | #action sgordon identify heat and glance participants? | 16:04 |
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| sgordon | this is going to be a little bit of a recurring theme but i need to carry this over :) | 16:04 |
| sgordon | #action mendel to write a use case for sr-iov via heat | 16:05 |
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| sgordon | itai emailed me during the week and mentioned she would not be able to make it today, so this also carries over | 16:05 |
| sgordon | sgordon to update on final sriov/numa status for juno next week | 16:05 |
| sgordon | we will get to this in the juno status update :) | 16:05 |
| sgordon | #action sgordon to clear up project touch points on wiki page | 16:06 |
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| sgordon | i have drafted something, need to add to the wiki | 16:06 |
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| sgordon | did anyone think they had an action item from last time that i didnt mention? ;) | 16:06 |
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| sgordon | #topic Juno status | 16:08 |
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| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack%2Fnova+topic:bp%2Fpci-passthrough-sriov,n,z | 16:08 |
| sgordon | #link | 16:08 |
| bauzas | sgordon: you were having one last action about pods | 16:08 |
| sgordon | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack%2Fnova+topic:bp%2Fvirt-driver-numa-placement,n,z | 16:08 |
| sgordon | bauzas, i moved it to the discussion at the end | 16:08 |
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| sgordon | bauzas, although it's unclear how that is actually going to work atm | 16:08 |
| bauzas | sgordon: just to mention that pods will be present, that has been confirmed | 16:08 |
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| sgordon | thiery was still working out how many they think they can fit | 16:08 |
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| bauzas | sgordon: it was unclear till last week | 16:09 |
| bauzas | sgordon: exactly | 16:09 |
| sgordon | so | 16:09 |
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| sgordon | wrt the topic at hand | 16:09 |
| sgordon | #info NUMA and SR-IOV FFEs merged | 16:09 |
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| sgordon | question now is in what state | 16:09 |
| sgordon | testing required! | 16:09 |
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| sgordon | because these were finalized as FFEs they are not fully in J-3 | 16:09 |
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| sgordon | they will be in RC-1 when it is cut | 16:10 |
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| sgordon | #info testing of NUMA and SR-IOV required based on RC-1 code | 16:10 |
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| sgordon | #link https://launchpad.net/nova/+milestone/juno-rc1 | 16:11 |
| sgordon | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/juno-rc1 | 16:11 |
| sgordon | in case anyone is interested in what else is in there atm ^ | 16:11 |
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| sgordon | #topic Design Summit | 16:11 |
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| sgordon | #info Per bauzas earlier comment there will be pods for the Kilo summit, unclear how many. | 16:12 |
| sgordon | #info Some re-thinking going into how design summits are structured | 16:12 |
| sgordon | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-August/044169.html | 16:12 |
| sgordon | #info See "design summit reloaded" thread for more info! | 16:13 |
| bauzas | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-crossproject-summit-topics Cross-project proposals etherpad | 16:13 |
| sgordon | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-summit-topics | 16:13 |
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| sgordon | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-crossproject-summit-topics | 16:13 |
| bauzas | dunno if NFV can claim for it | 16:13 |
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| sgordon | yeah as we have discussed before it's challenging without specific requirements that are themselves cross project | 16:14 |
| bauzas | +1 | 16:14 |
| bauzas | anyway | 16:14 |
| sgordon | need to cultivate our list of outstanding items fairly urgently though to work out what is feasible | 16:14 |
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| sgordon | #info need to cultivate NFV work item list for kilo | 16:15 |
| sgordon | #info to feed into individual project's planning | 16:15 |
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| sgordon | i dont have further at this time, does anyone know if there is a pad for neutron like the above? | 16:16 |
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| bauzas | indeed | 16:16 |
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| sgordon | #topic other discussion | 16:17 |
| * bauzas searching the URL | 16:17 | |
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| sgordon | thx | 16:17 |
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| bauzas | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Planning | 16:18 |
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| sgordon | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Planning | 16:19 |
| sgordon | fancy | 16:19 |
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| bauzas | ^above is the wikipage referring all the etherpads | 16:19 |
| sgordon | ya | 16:19 |
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| sgordon | so action there is to review those pads and see what is relevant | 16:20 |
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| sgordon | and also add where appropriate | 16:20 |
| sgordon | it's the where appropriate that can be hard to get a gauge on :) | 16:20 |
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| bauzas | :) | 16:21 |
| sgordon | ok so nothing more to add from me | 16:21 |
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| sgordon | any more open discussion? | 16:21 |
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| sgordon | #endmeeting | 16:23 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 18 16:23:05 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-09-18-16.02.html | 16:23 |
| sgordon | later all | 16:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nfv/2014/nfv.2014-09-18-16.02.txt | 16:23 |
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| mtreinish | #startmeeting qa | 22:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Sep 18 22:00:38 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mtreinish. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 22:00 |
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| mtreinish | hi who's here today? | 22:00 |
| mlavalle | hi | 22:00 |
| mjturek1 | Hey | 22:00 |
| mtreinish | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Proposed_Agenda_for_September_18th_2014_.282200_UTC.29 | 22:00 |
| masayukig | o/ | 22:00 |
| oomichi | hi | 22:00 |
| gmann | hi | 22:00 |
| mtreinish | ^^^ Today's agenda | 22:01 |
| dkranz | o/ | 22:01 |
| andreaf | o/ | 22:01 |
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| mtreinish | ok let's get started | 22:01 |
| mtreinish | #topic Summit topic brainstorming (mtreinish) | 22:02 |
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| mtreinish | so I figured I'd just remind everyone about the etherpad for brainstorming summit topics | 22:02 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-qa-summit-topics | 22:02 |
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| mtreinish | I couldn't remember if I did it for this meeting timeslot before or not | 22:02 |
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| mtreinish | although the agenda logs show that I did | 22:03 |
| mtreinish | but, anyway if you've got ideas for a topic you'd like to discuss at summit feel free to add it to the agenda | 22:03 |
| mtreinish | that's really all I had for this | 22:03 |
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| mtreinish | ok, lets move on | 22:04 |
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| mtreinish | #topic tempest-lib commit history tracking (mtreinish) | 22:04 |
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| mtreinish | so tempest-lib is almost ready for the first release | 22:05 |
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| mtreinish | but as part of trying to do the second migration I realized that I was mistaken and we could migrate git history from tempest a second time | 22:05 |
| mtreinish | so the history we have there is what we'll have moving forward | 22:05 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: what about andreaf's change to the base test class around resource cleanup? | 22:06 |
| mtreinish | so to keep a record of what work is being migrated I changed the script to generate commits like: https://review.openstack.org/121994 | 22:06 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: so right now the base test class I migrated to tempest-lib is very minimal and doesn't really include anything | 22:06 |
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| mtreinish | and it'll just be for the cli tests | 22:07 |
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| oomichi | why we need to move history also? | 22:07 |
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| oomichi | we can check sync by seeing the code. | 22:07 |
| oomichi | between tempest and tempest-lib | 22:08 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: well it would have been nice to keep the history so things like git blame, etc would work. | 22:08 |
| oomichi | ah, ok. nice for me. | 22:08 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: thanks | 22:08 |
| mtreinish | andreaf, dkranz: I'm not sure migrating the base test class over is a good idea at this point | 22:09 |
| andreaf | mtreinish, because of the resource-cleanup bp? | 22:09 |
| mtreinish | or moving forward either the resource cleanup bp shows how coupled that is to tempest, and if we moved that out of tree fixing things will be more difficult in the future | 22:09 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: well for the short term yeah | 22:09 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I'm not either. I am just concerned about the stable api issue | 22:09 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: I am not sure what the rush is for tempest-lib if its interface is not stable | 22:10 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: well that's why I'm concentrating on things with a stable api so we can lock them down | 22:10 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: Because it only has real value if other projects use it | 22:11 |
| mtreinish | the cli clients, subunit-trace, the rest clients and auth layer are next | 22:11 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: right, but that is almost nothing | 22:11 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: ok | 22:11 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: all of the rest clients? | 22:12 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: well, having the cli framework will let the clients do there own functional testing so we can rip them out of tempest | 22:12 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: just the core, common/rest_client.py | 22:12 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: ok | 22:12 |
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| mtreinish | anyway this discussion is why I think an in person talk about tempest-lib direction at summit will be useful | 22:13 |
| mtreinish | so we can have a more concrete direction on it's future | 22:13 |
| dkranz | yu[ | 22:13 |
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| dkranz | yup | 22:13 |
| mtreinish | ok let's move on, unless anyone else has something to add | 22:13 |
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| gmann | mtreinish: whats about updates going on on files moved to tempest-lib and not yet removed from tempest | 22:14 |
| mtreinish | gmann: if they're in tempest-lib and the reviews are still in progress we should probably tell them to respin the commit against tempest-lib | 22:15 |
| gmann | will we force those patch to do for tempest-lib or sync again while removing them from tempest | 22:15 |
| mtreinish | gmann: do you have an example | 22:15 |
| gmann | ok | 22:15 |
| mtreinish | gmann: I think we should probably try to avoid a resync | 22:15 |
| gmann | not exactly but some CLI patches are there but need to check if they change base class which is moved to tempest=lib | 22:16 |
| mtreinish | I'm planning to push the first release after: https://review.openstack.org/121995 and https://review.openstack.org/121988 merge | 22:16 |
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| mtreinish | gmann: they'll definitely have to be rebased if they don't land before: https://review.openstack.org/117649 | 22:16 |
| gmann | mtreinish: ok, sounds good | 22:16 |
| mtreinish | ok, let's move on | 22:17 |
| mtreinish | #topic Specs Review | 22:17 |
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| mtreinish | so does anyone have an open qa-specs that need discussion or reviews | 22:17 |
| mtreinish | although at this point in the cycle I don't see us taking on too much more work until after summit | 22:18 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish, my usual one - asking for reviews on the ssh auth spec | 22:18 |
| andreaf | mtreinish, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94741/ | 22:18 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/94741/ | 22:18 |
| mtreinish | ok, yeah that one is on me, I keep forgetting to review it :) | 22:18 |
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| mtreinish | I'll try to get to it tomorrow | 22:19 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: well feedback from anyone is welcome | 22:19 |
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| mtreinish | yes very true, everyone should review it | 22:19 |
| mtreinish | does anyone else have a spec, otherwise lets move on | 22:20 |
| mtreinish | #topic Blueprints | 22:20 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/juno | 22:20 |
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| mtreinish | so at this point we still have a fair number of open bps | 22:21 |
| mtreinish | does anyone have a status update on a bp? | 22:21 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish: resource-cleanup | 22:21 |
| masayukig | about tempest-client-scenarios, The status is that: Total: 18 test files (MERGED:13, APPROVED:1, SUBMITTED:4, NOT YET:0) | 22:21 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: I'm try to push the first part out as fast as possible | 22:21 |
| andreaf | masayukig, sorry go ahead | 22:22 |
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| masayukig | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tempest-client-scenarios | 22:22 |
| masayukig | almost there | 22:22 |
| mtreinish | masayukig: oh, cool we have all of them submitted now! | 22:22 |
| masayukig | mtreinish: yeah! | 22:22 |
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| mtreinish | once those last 4 land we can start removing all the official client handling code | 22:23 |
| mtreinish | which will be awesome, and clean a lot of things up | 22:23 |
| andreaf | mtreinish, masayukig: yes so I migrated test_stamp https://review.openstack.org/122196 | 22:23 |
| andreaf | mtreinish, masayukig which fails but it fails for the same reason why the test is skipped | 22:23 |
| andreaf | I have a patch on top to unskip to see the test running | 22:24 |
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| andreaf | otherwise I think the code is ok | 22:24 |
| masayukig | andreaf: thanks, I'll have a look later. | 22:24 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: ok, yeah I'll take a look at that. I'll ask jgriffith about that test too | 22:24 |
| mtreinish | because it's been skipped for a very long time | 22:25 |
| andreaf | yes basically vdb doesn't show up even if attach is ok according to API | 22:25 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: ok, yeah thats what I remember happening, although I thought it was a nondeterministic failure. But whatever | 22:26 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: ok, was there anything else on resource-cleanup? | 22:26 |
| andreaf | I just changed my patches according to your and afazekas' comments | 22:26 |
| andreaf | so I believe the base patch is ready to go now | 22:27 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: ok cool | 22:27 |
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| andreaf | so I need reviews for ithttps://review.openstack.org/121537 | 22:27 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/121537 | 22:27 |
| andreaf | the rest should be easy to review is pretty mechanical | 22:27 |
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| andreaf | so I'd really love to see that going through quickly, we can do the split of resource_setup with more time | 22:28 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: ok, I'll put it on my list for tomorrow. Unless someone beats me to it | 22:28 |
| mtreinish | does anyone else have an update on a bp in progress? | 22:29 |
| andreaf | regarding test-accounts, there are only two patches left, which are both in good shape | 22:29 |
| andreaf | however we should wait for the infra change to be able to test non-isolated run on demand | 22:29 |
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| andreaf | https://review.openstack.org/120861 | 22:29 |
| andreaf | then we can have all the code merged | 22:29 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: ok I'll bug clarkb, jeblair, and fungi about that | 22:30 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish, thanks | 22:30 |
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| mtreinish | are there any other bps to discuss? | 22:30 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: https://review.openstack.org/112581 was just pushed | 22:30 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: that is the resource cleanup from dpatterson | 22:31 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: oh, good. I'll take a look at that soon | 22:31 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: I played with it a bit today. Pretty nifty. | 22:31 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz: do you know which timezone dpaterson is in? | 22:32 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: Boston | 22:32 |
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| mtreinish | ah, ok that's convenient. | 22:33 |
| mtreinish | from a quick glance I wanted to work through some of the docs stuff on that patch. It'll probably be easier to do interactively | 22:33 |
| mtreinish | another call for open bps to discuss, otherwise we'll move on | 22:33 |
| mtreinish | #topic DevStack | 22:35 |
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| mtreinish | so dtroyer said he couldn't make it today | 22:35 |
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| mtreinish | but there were 3 patches he wanted to discuss if he could make it | 22:35 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/105785 | 22:35 |
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| mtreinish | which was more a discussion on timeline for switching the default over to neutron | 22:36 |
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| oomichi | a lot of +1s :) | 22:36 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: asap if you ask me | 22:36 |
| mtreinish | I think that really deserves a ML thread, because it involves a lot of people | 22:36 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: oh, wow I completely missed that the first time :) | 22:37 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: yeah I tend to agree, but it might be a bit political | 22:37 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I'm not so sure. But we should find out. | 22:37 |
| mtreinish | the second patch for discussion was: | 22:38 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/98854/ | 22:38 |
| mtreinish | that switches every endpoint to use ssl | 22:38 |
| mtreinish | which was I think a priority discussion | 22:38 |
| mtreinish | and the 3rd was: | 22:38 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/111734/ | 22:38 |
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| mtreinish | which I think was a call for reviews | 22:39 |
| oomichi | re: 1st one: I agree that we need to discuss it on -dev ml. | 22:39 |
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| oomichi | that should depend on nova-net vs. neutron. | 22:40 |
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| dkranz | Second one is most controversial to me | 22:40 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz: really? I'm curious why | 22:41 |
| dkranz | If devstack is a developer tool it might waste a lot of runtime with ssl | 22:41 |
| dkranz | On the other hand it is more realistic | 22:41 |
| oomichi | when previous release(icehouse), nova team anounced that nova-net should be CURRENT, I'm not sure current status about that. | 22:41 |
| mtreinish | oh, that's a good point if the traffic is encrypted it's harder to intercept to figure out what's going on | 22:41 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: So I think it is really about what is the primary mission of devstack | 22:42 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: yeah, but that was more caused by a bunch of big regressions caused by freezing the code | 22:42 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: and we are talking just about the default anyway | 22:42 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz: yeah, that might warrant a ml thread too :) | 22:42 |
| mtreinish | since not many devstack cores are around now | 22:43 |
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| lbragstad | is ssl support with devstack thoroughly documented in the event a developer wants to configure it that way? | 22:43 |
| * andreaf 's brain is shutting down against my will - going to bed for today | 22:43 | |
| dkranz | andreaf: zzzzzzz | 22:43 |
| mtreinish | lbragstad: probably not, most of the devstack documentation is through code I think. like devstack.org is really out of dat | 22:44 |
| masayukig | andreaf: :) | 22:44 |
| lbragstad | mtreinish: gotcha | 22:44 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: RTFC :) | 22:44 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: heh, yeah something like that | 22:45 |
| mtreinish | it's a good way to learn how to deploy openstack too | 22:45 |
| mtreinish | anyway we've got ~15min left. so let's move on | 22:45 |
| mtreinish | #topic Bugs | 22:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: qa)" | 22:45 | |
| mtreinish | dkranz started the weekly rotation etherpad last week | 22:45 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: do you have a link | 22:46 |
| mtreinish | ? | 22:46 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: just a sec | 22:46 |
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| gmann | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-bug-triage-rotation | 22:46 |
| masayukig | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-bug-triage-rotation | 22:46 |
| mtreinish | gmann: ok, thanks | 22:47 |
| mtreinish | so if people could volunteer to cover a week of bug triage that would be great | 22:47 |
| dkranz | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-bug-triage-rotation | 22:47 |
| mtreinish | once we get down to 0 new bugs, keeping on top of bug growth is a lot easier | 22:47 |
| mtreinish | because the weekly volunteer just has to make sure a few bugs get triaged | 22:47 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: so in addition to triaging new bugs, I knocked about a dozen off the backlog. | 22:48 |
| dpaterson | I'm down if I am qualified :) | 22:48 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: If each person does that over the next six weeks it should be gone | 22:48 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: oh, nice yeah we can widdle away that will be good too | 22:48 |
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| mtreinish | dpaterson: yeah, anyone can take a week | 22:48 |
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| dpaterson | K | 22:48 |
| mtreinish | you just need to join the tempest-bugs lp group, which has open membership | 22:48 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: It's a little unfortunate that hardly any of them end up actually being tempest bugs | 22:49 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: that's always been the norm | 22:49 |
| dkranz | yeah | 22:49 |
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| mtreinish | I think it comes from a general lack of knowledge about how the gate works | 22:49 |
| mtreinish | and what the role of tempest and the other pieces are | 22:49 |
| dkranz | Yes, and I desire to move on when you know the problem is not with your commit, and probably not even with your project | 22:49 |
| dkranz | the desire | 22:49 |
| mtreinish | yep | 22:50 |
| mtreinish | ok is there anything else to discuss about bugs? | 22:50 |
| gmann | mtreinish: dkranz: I wrote up brief summary about numbers- https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Tempest-bug-report | 22:50 |
| dkranz | gmann: thanks! | 22:50 |
| mtreinish | gmann: awesome | 22:50 |
| gmann | which i am thinking of keep updating weekly bases | 22:50 |
| mtreinish | gmann: yeah that'll be great | 22:51 |
| mtreinish | gmann: also tracking incomplete will be useful too | 22:51 |
| lbragstad | mtreinish: I have a script that does that if you want me to add the tempest project to it | 22:51 |
| mtreinish | because those don't always autoexpire | 22:51 |
| gmann | sure. thanks | 22:51 |
| mtreinish | lbragstad: oh, cool sure | 22:51 |
| lbragstad | http://keystone-weekly-bug-report.tempusfrangit.org/weekly-bug-reports/ | 22:51 |
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| mtreinish | gmann: that should make tracking thing easier :) | 22:52 |
| dkranz | lbragstad: what determines if a bug is on that list? | 22:52 |
| lbragstad | dkranz: it uses the lanchpadlib api to pull the bugs for the last 7 days on a project | 22:52 |
| gmann | mtreinish: yes, will check that | 22:52 |
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| dkranz | lbragstad: you mean reported in the last 7 days? | 22:53 |
| lbragstad | reported and opened, sure | 22:53 |
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| dkranz | lbragstad: ok, thanks | 22:53 |
| dkranz | lbragstad: having tempest there would be great | 22:53 |
| gmann | lbragstad: thanks. it will really helpful | 22:53 |
| lbragstad | sure, I can do that | 22:53 |
| mtreinish | ok, let's move on | 22:54 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Critical Reviews | 22:54 |
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| mtreinish | ok does anyone have any open reviews that could use a little extra attention | 22:54 |
| mtreinish | I have at least one this week: | 22:55 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/113674 | 22:55 |
| mtreinish | which is a doc update | 22:55 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/118744 | 22:55 |
| mtreinish | which should clean up the console output from a gate run a bit | 22:55 |
| mtreinish | and: | 22:56 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/122527 | 22:56 |
| mtreinish | which is a critical fix so we start running the cli tests again... | 22:56 |
| mtreinish | someone else must have a review. I don't want this topic to seem like me stealing meeting time to bother people with my backlog :) | 22:57 |
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| mtreinish | heh, ok well there's 1min left. So is there anything else? | 22:59 |
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| lbragstad | mtreinish: http://keystone-weekly-bug-report.tempusfrangit.org/weekly-bug-reports/tempest-weekly-bug-report.html | 22:59 |
| mlavalle | mtreinish: I have a question about a bug. can we talk briefly in the qa channel? | 22:59 |
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| mtreinish | lbragstad: ok awesome, thanks | 22:59 |
| lbragstad | np | 22:59 |
| mtreinish | mlavalle: sure | 23:00 |
| mtreinish | ok well that's time | 23:00 |
| mtreinish | thanks everyone | 23:00 |
| mlavalle | I don't want to hold anybody here | 23:00 |
| mlavalle | :-) | 23:00 |
| mtreinish | #endmeeting | 23:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 23:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Sep 18 23:00:16 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 23:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2014/qa.2014-09-18-22.00.html | 23:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2014/qa.2014-09-18-22.00.txt | 23:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2014/qa.2014-09-18-22.00.log.html | 23:00 |
| gmann | Thanks all | 23:00 |
| masayukig | thanks :) | 23:00 |
| oomichi | thanks all :-) | 23:00 |
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