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HenryGakamyshnikova_, jlibosva1, Hi12:59
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HenryG#startmeeting neutron_db12:59
openstackMeeting started Mon Sep 22 12:59:58 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is HenryG. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_db'13:00
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HenryG#topic Announcements13:00
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HenryGThis will be the last meeting.13:00
HenryGI think our work is done. :)13:00
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HenryGI will send an email to the ML.13:01
HenryG#topic Migration tests13:01
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HenryGThis is our last item.13:01
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HenryGThe tests are ready to merge, but there are some issues with the functional job in the gate.13:02
HenryGHopefully that will get sorted out soon.13:02
HenryG#topic Open discussion13:02
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akamyshnikova_yes, I think we need to be sure that tests will be running :)13:03
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HenryGIf no one has anything to discuss, we can end the meeting.13:04
jlibosvaGood job everyone!13:05
HenryGYes, thanks for all the fantastic work!13:05
jlibosvaI have maybe one more thing13:05
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akamyshnikova_thanks everyone I was very happy to work together with you!13:06
jlibosvaIt would be good to have grenade working :) I spent some time couple weeks ago and any reviews for tempest would be helpful:
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HenryGjlibosva: Thanks, I will take a look13:06
jlibosvait has almost no attention from tempest cores, it only affects grenade13:07
HenryGNote that for any reviews outside neutron, please feel free to add me to the reviewer list if you want me to look at it.13:07
jlibosvanoted :)13:08
HenryGjlibosva: We can make some noise about wanting to enable voting for the grenade job. Then I am sure they will help review.13:08
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HenryGjlibosva: Are you sure about that review link?13:11
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jlibosvaHenryG: yes, the thing is that grenade uses javelin from tempest...13:11
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jlibosvaHenryG: javelin is a project for creating environment in openstack13:11
HenryGjlibosva: ok13:11
jlibosvaHenryG: nowadaysit has no network support13:11
jlibosvaThere is another patch testing it with grenade and neutron:
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EmilienMjlibosva: we kinda lack of reviews...13:12
jlibosvayep, that's why we need raise attention on this patch13:13
jlibosvaalso note that after upgrade, javelin check fails. I think it can be a neutron bug13:13
jlibosvaThat's probably all from my side13:14
HenryGOK, it sounds like grenade health needs attention. I will try to help with that.13:15
HenryGWho will I see in Paris?13:16
EmilienMthanks HenryG13:16
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EmilienMsame !13:16
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HenryGGreat! I look forward to it!13:17
HenryGBye everyone!13:18
jlibosvaBye and thanks13:18
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krotscheck#startmeeting StoryBoard15:00
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openstackMeeting started Mon Sep 22 15:00:38 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is krotscheck. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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krotscheckGood [insert-appropriate-time-of-day-here] everyone!15:00
gothicmindfoodohai, krotscheck15:01
krotscheckohai, gothicmindfood!15:01
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* krotscheck hopes jeblair is around for the first two topics.15:01
krotscheck#topic Urgent Item: RabbitMQ Failures.15:01
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jeblairoh hello15:01
krotscheckSo, the somewhat-more-robust Rabbitmq pubsub code landed this morning, meaning that StoryBoard should now automatically reconnect.15:02
krotschecki.e. jeblair, sometime this afternoon I’ll poke you to go look at the logs and verify that, ok?15:02
jeblairkrotscheck: happy to15:02
jeblairdid my "disable subscriptions" config change ever land?15:02
krotscheckjeblair: Urm...15:02
krotscheckjeblair: I don’t know?15:02
jeblairi will search and report back shortly15:03
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jeblairso we probably need to revert that15:03
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krotscheckCool - want me to do that?15:04
krotscheckjeblair: You haz review queue, no?15:04
krotscheck(i.e. you’ve got lots of other things on your plate)15:04
jeblairkrotscheck: i'll do it15:04
krotscheckjeblair: Gotcha15:04
krotscheckI’m going to leave that item on the agenda until it’s well and truly closed.15:05
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krotscheck#topic Urgent Item: Launchpad Migration15:05
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krotscheckThe launchpad migration CLI also landed.15:05
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krotscheckjeblair: See
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krotscheckAt this point there may still be a few bugs, but I feel we can pick smaller projects to run test-migrations on.15:07
krotscheckFor the sake of sanity though, it might be best to spin up a test storyboard VM and run the script on that database without impacting prod.15:08
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krotscheckI’ve verified that it works for storyboard and zuul, but I haven’t run others.15:08
krotscheckOne thing though: with lots more data, the UI starts to fall down rather severely since we never built page controls.15:09
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krotscheckUpside: It’s now easy to seed your local database with lots of real data.15:09
krotscheckAny questions on that?15:10
jeblairyeah, one of the hopes is that we will get annoyed at little problems like that when using them with infra and get them fixed before the rest of the project has to see them :)15:10
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krotscheckExactly :)15:10
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krotscheckSo I feel thsi topic is completed, does anyone have questions and/or disagreements?15:11
krotscheckAnyone? No? Ok, moving on.15:12
krotscheck#topic Discussion15:12
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krotscheckNo topics listed. Moving on15:12
krotscheck#topic MVP 1.1: Data Import15:13
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krotscheckSee above discussion in Launchpad migration. Do we want to talk migration process/strategy right now or is that a ‘handle it in the infra meeting tomorrow’ thing?15:13
ttxyeah, this one is ready code-wise, it's more a project adoption thing now15:14
jeblairwe should probably at least handle it in the infra meeting15:14
ttxso I would strikeout the task now15:14
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jeblair(but also happy to talk about it here if you want)15:14
jeblair(guess not :)15:14
krotscheckjeblair: Well, at this point any single data import is going to make us scramble to update the UI15:14
krotscheckSo, the storm is coming, batten down the hatches :D15:15
krotscheck#topic MVP 1.1 Subscription15:15
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jeblairdo you want to delay import until you do some basic ui changes?15:15
krotscheckjeblair: Naah, what could possibly go wrong :)15:15
jeblairokiedokie :)15:15
mordredkrotscheck: is there anything that's so horribly broken that it will make a jeblair come through a computer monitor with a dead chicken?15:16
krotscheckmordred: Even if it was, I’d rather leave it in there just to film it and put it on youtube.15:16
* krotscheck doesn’t actually think there’s anything that broken.15:16
mordredkrotscheck: k. cool15:16
krotscheckSo, subscription was my second major task last week, because running multiple daemons and setting that up via puppet is hard.15:16
krotscheckI ended up going with a build-the-daemon-manager-in-python approach, which right now is up for review BUT turns out is actually still broken.15:17
krotscheckMostly because of stupid sigterm trapping things when having the parent process manage multiple child processes.15:17
krotscheckI’ll try to get that working soon, but for the time being it’s still WIP15:18
* krotscheck makes a note to wip that.15:18
krotscheckAny questions on that?15:18
ttxnope, makes sense15:18
krotscheck#topic MVP 1.1 Project Groups15:19
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krotscheckThere was an extended discussion on project group naming last week.15:19
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krotscheckAnd it _feels_ like and are now ready, because everyone understands the scope/intent.15:20
krotscheckGiven that, I’ve got a question.15:21
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krotscheckThere are some parts of the UI which are enabled for admins, even though from a practical perspective they’re managed by puppet/scripts.15:21
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krotscheckExample: Creation of Projects and Project Groups.15:21
krotscheckDo we care that those remain enabled?15:22
* krotscheck is ambivalent. 15:22
jeblairi think in the long run we should find a way to disable them, possibly via an acl system like gerrit15:22
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jeblairin the short term, i think all our admins know not to use them15:22
krotscheckGot it.15:22
* krotscheck likes ACL systems15:22
ttxI think jebalir sums it up well15:23
ttxjeblair even15:23
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krotscheckSo, current status on the feature is : Admin UI is there, script management is ready to land, user UI is not yet there.15:23
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krotscheckSo you can’t yet search on project group, nor are project groups available from a not-admin user yet.15:23
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krotscheckSince it’ll probably be me who builds that, I also have to track down an annoying left-join bug in the task search that’s messing with our paging.15:24
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krotscheckNo other updates. Any questions?15:25
ttxno questiuon on that15:26
krotscheck#topic MVP 1.1: Tags15:26
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krotscheckOnly one update here: The import script _does_ load tags.15:26
krotscheckOther than that, NikitaKonovalov mentioned in #storyboard earlier that he has no updates, likely because he’s still stuck in sahara country.15:27
krotscheck#topic MVP 1.1 Emails15:27
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krotscheckNo progress.15:27
SergeyLukjanovkrotscheck, ack re NikitaKonovalov15:27
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krotscheckSergeyLukjanov: Can we have him back soon? :)15:27
krotscheckSergeyLukjanov: Or is he going to be stuck until Juno goes.15:28
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SergeyLukjanovkrotscheck, honestly, I don't think that it'll be earlier than Juno release15:28
krotscheckSergeyLukjanov: Well, as long as he continues to help review things I’m ok with that.15:28
krotscheck#topic Open Discussion15:29
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krotscheckAny open discussion topics?15:29
ttxSome time ago I posted
ttxBased on the initial feedback, I could turn that into a proper spec15:29
ttxbut if it sounds completely crazy, maybe not worth it :)15:29
krotscheckttx: Is it likely that a story could have multiple types?15:30
ttxkrotscheck: not the way it's proposed15:30
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ttxI'm trying to strike a balance between types that would trigger different things and types that are just refinements15:31
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ttxhence the whole inheritance thing15:31
ttxkrotscheck: originally I only had the first 3... but then jogo started distinguishing between "improvements" and "new features" for his runway thing15:32
krotscheckSo, I think that yes- this is a thing we want.15:33
ttxso I figured we might need a subtype15:33
krotscheckThe only thing I’m pondering is whether it should be its own thing or should be a thing on top of tags.15:33
krotscheckBut that’s an implementation detail.15:33
ttxkrotscheck: i thought about using tags... but then I was struggling to see how we could build milestone pages (release notes) that would show bugsn featrues and vulnerabilities in different lists15:34
ttx(like Launchpad milestone reports, only adding vulnerabilities as another category of released things15:35
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* gothicmindfood sees people fighting to be considered 'improvements' over 'new features' during k cycle development15:35
ttxso we could have a reporting module and we would select which tags are significant...15:35
gothicmindfoodwho decides whether something is a new feature or improvement?15:35
ttxgothicmindfood: I could go with only the first 3, to avoid discussion15:36
ttx(although I like distinguishing between a regression and a bug, they are both bugs)15:36
mordredyah - maybe it'sa  bug with a regression tag or something15:36
gothicmindfoodttx: maybe just that as a start? but I agree that the distinction is useful. It's just I wonder how it plays out in story creation/maintenance15:36
ttxthat's what it is right now (we tag the bugs regression)15:36
ttxkrotscheck: maybe just use the first 3, then use tags to subtype.15:37
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ttxthat would work15:37
krotscheck(Side note: Does the is_bug field in the story table make sense at all anymore? Because if not I’m going to delete it)15:37
ttxkrotscheck: that would replace it15:37
ttxso you could say it's not useful right now15:37
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ttxI don't think anything uses is_bug right now15:38
krotscheckSo, a Vulnerability is a… special kind of bug?15:38
ttxbut at the very minimum we'll need to distinguish between feature and bug, and story types sound preferable to implementing exclusive tag groups :)15:38
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gothicmindfoodit's a bug no one but special people see :)15:38
ttxkrotscheck: a vulnerability is a bug that only gets a very limited audience first (then it expands)15:39
krotscheckHrm hrm hrm15:39
ttxso that could be implemenetd another way, for sure15:39
ttxLaunchpad has a flag ("security")15:39
ttxwhich appears at bug submission time15:39
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krotscheckmordred’s suggestion suggests that there are types, and there are separate classifiers such as ‘scheduling’, ‘priority’, and ‘security'15:40
ttxI would rather ask the user: what do you want to file ? A public bug ? A feature plan ? Or a vulnerability report15:40
krotscheckttx: Scheduling -> This is a new feature vs. this is a feature + regression.15:41
krotscheckMaybe schduling is not the right word.15:42
krotscheckMaybe release target.15:42
ttxfor targeting / scheduling we would use arbitrary task lists instead15:42
krotscheckI think I like regression as a tag. Because that way regression can be Icehouse-2, Juno, etc, while also being known as a bug?15:42
ttxso that anyone can have their own priorities15:42
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ttxkrotscheck: i'm fine with regression being a tag15:43
krotscheckOh, so work target is a task thing?15:43
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ttxkrotscheck: well, each project / code repo might have different targets / releases15:43
krotscheckOk, so  ttx’s original question was whether Story Types needs to be an official spec.15:43
ttxso it has to be task-level15:43
krotscheckAnd I think nobody here disagrees with that.15:43
ttxyeah, if it doesn't sound like a terriuble idea, I can flesh out implementation options15:44
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krotscheckIt’s a pretty good idea.15:44
* krotscheck thinks it’s a good idea. Anyone else?15:44
ttxwe just need to get it right :)15:44
krotscheckttx: The first time!15:44
* gothicmindfood thinks it's a great idea15:44
krotscheckAny dissenting opinions? If not we’ll give ttx free reign to go speccing.15:45
ttxyeah speccing15:45
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krotscheckOkidokey, let’s do it!15:45
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krotscheckAny other open discussion topics?15:45
krotscheckOh, one quick thing from me. I want to (eventually) make our deferred processing engine our plugin system.15:46
krotscheckThe approach is: API event happens, message goes into queue, worker picks up message, checks for plugins via stevedore, hands message to plugins, exits.15:47
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krotscheckThere’s no question there though, It’s still a fuzzy thing in my head.15:48
krotscheckIf there’s nothing else I’ll end the meeting early so those of us at GMT -8 can get more coffee :)15:48
krotscheckGoing once....15:49
krotscheckGoing twice….15:49
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krotscheckThanks everyone15:50
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ttxthx krotscheck !15:50
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rakhmerov#startmeeting Mistral16:00
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rakhmerovwhile we're waiting for other people16:03
rakhmerovlet me discuss something with you16:03
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rakhmerovcan you please let me know how much you were able to do on workflows/actions ?16:04
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rakhmerovI'd like to ask you to commit (at least as WIP) what you have by now so that I can continue to work on it today16:04
NikolayMI am doing workflow API + workflows service16:05
NikolayMand now it is not correctly working16:05
rakhmerovcan you please commit all your work?16:06
rakhmerovand let me know what's done and what's left16:06
NikolayMyes, I can16:06
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rakhmerovI'm planning to finish it all today16:06
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rakhmerovok, please don't forget about it16:06
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NikolayMone min16:06
rakhmerovsure, no rush16:06
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rakhmerovok, Bryan is not coming today, he's busy with something else16:07
rakhmerovNastya will be a little bit later16:07
rakhmerovnot sure about Dmitri16:07
dziminem here16:07
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rakhmerovguys, I'd suggest we make this meeting really short16:08
rakhmerovthis week is promising to be crazy16:08
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dziminewhat's the plan for this week? rakhmerov did you decide what you put in before cutting 0.1?16:09
rakhmerovthe only thing I'd like to do is discuss small changes in
dziminedo we finish the polish of WF16:09
rakhmerovyes, Dmitri, they're partially done already16:09
rakhmerovall that's in this etherpad will be a part of 0.1.016:09
dzimineI mean, we did't get to the bottom of the list, may be we can do it later today or whenever u have time, over skype.16:10
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rakhmerovyes, let's do it later16:11
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rakhmerovbut generally I don't think we'll be able to put much more than this list into the release16:11
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rakhmerovNikolay, do you have any questions/objections about what we decided to do16:12
rakhmerovI have to apologize that we didn't discuss it with you first16:13
rakhmerovit's 100% responsibility16:13
rakhmerovso if you'd like to change something we can discuss it right now16:13
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NikolayMtoday's morning I though input in action is inconsistient with input in wf/exec16:15
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rakhmerovyeah, I saw your comments16:15
NikolayMbut I've discussed it with you already16:15
rakhmerovare you ok with it now or still want to change that for actions?16:15
NikolayMI've seen the etherpad and for now I have no questions16:16
rakhmerovfrom my standpoint there's no difference between workflows/actions/tasks16:16
NikolayMit is a bit confusing to see word 'input' for parameters string like in methods/functions16:16
NikolayMbut if we want to change it to more complicated structure, let's leave it as is16:17
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rakhmerovguys, then if you don't have any more questions let's wrap up16:17
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rakhmerovthanks for joining16:18
rakhmerovDmitri, let's talk today later16:19
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sarob_#startmeeting training-guides17:01
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sarob_The timing of this meeting is going to be harder on dguitarbite now17:04
sarob_Anyone that's working on docs want to fill in for him?17:05
dbitesorry for the delay17:05
dbiteim here17:05
sarob_#topic docs17:05
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dbitedocs needs update for the older version17:06
dbiteI will be working with Anne Gentle on this17:06
dbitesome of the updates require deleting old webpages from the www folder17:06
dbiteunder openstack-manuals repository17:06
dbiteI apologize for the delay in pushing the doc-tools for building the PDF files17:06
dbiteI will finalize that part soon17:06
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sarob_Yeah, so what's your plan about cleaning up the ftp site?17:08
dbiteit needs to be manual17:08
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dbiteand the access is limited to Anne as of now17:08
dbitewho has agreed to help us out17:09
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sarob_I was just going to wipe it all after hours and rerun a publish job17:09
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sarob_Is that too extreme17:09
dbiteif extra pages get deleted17:09
dbitethey will be automatically updated17:09
dbitewith the new patch17:09
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sarob_My thought as well17:10
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dbitebut for the sake of not doing unwanted things, I am taking extra precautions17:10
sarob_Like what?17:10
dbitethe problem is that the pages do not get deleted from the FTP site17:10
dbiteI just wanted to verify which files are obsolete which is a bit tedious and takes some time17:10
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dbiteonce that part is done, we are ready for a release for Icehouse17:11
sarob_How about making a full copy17:11
dbitehmm, I think I should think about that17:11
sarob_And start cleaning out the copy first17:11
dbiteI will ping annegentle once I am done verifying the content17:12
sarob_Doc the changes or script them17:12
dbiteverifying the new content17:12
sarob_Then do it to the online version17:12
dbite#action dguitarbite will update the ftp site this week17:12
sarob_More work but less likely to Bork17:12
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dbitesarob_: yes, I do not mind more work, till it makes sense to preserve the sanity of our content17:13
dbiteso if everyone agrees, I will ask annegentle to delete everything and push a patch immediately to get new content in17:13
sarob_I miss it17:14
dbitemeaning, I do not want to do a mistake which will reflect on the online version17:14
dbitebecause we are dependent on Anne to fix it for us17:14
sarob_Hmm, I'm bit confused now17:14
dbiteso what I mean to say is that, I will go through the current master branch, verify the content and then push it17:14
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sarob_With deletions in the patch?17:15
dbiteI will verify the content17:15
dbitethen ask annegentle to delete everything, complete cleanup on FTP17:15
dbiteand to update the new content push a dummy patch17:16
sarob_Okay got it17:16
sarob_Anything else?17:16
dbiteno, not from docs side17:16
sarob_#topic incubation17:17
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dbitesarob_: We need to confirm if we meet the official criteria for incubation17:17
dbiteif that is met, I vote for going forward with it17:17
sarob_Dbite: what do you see as the goal of incubation?17:18
sarob_Or goals17:18
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dbiteI see that major task of incubation is already taken care of (moving the repository to openstack/)17:19
dbitewe have active commiters and core reviewers which is good progress17:19
dbiteand another important part is that we have17:20
dbite    Shell 60.8%17:20
dbite    JavaScript 15.0%17:20
dbite    CSS 12.2%17:20
dbite    Python 8.3%17:20
dbite    Ruby 3.7%17:20
sarob_But how does this team benefit from the incubation designation?17:20
dbitewhich differs from openstack-manuals roadmap to keep XML content17:20
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dbiteto be honest, I do not understand the scope of this question. I will need to update my information on incubation process17:21
sarob_I'm being a bit contrarian here17:21
sarob_On purpose17:21
* dbite is glad for that17:22
dbiteI understand we need to do this17:22
sarob_We have one incubation benefit already17:22
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sarob_If we get the incubation designation17:22
sarob_We will get more attention17:23
dbiteyes, more than stating the obvious that we are meeting most of the criteria for incubation and already have the repository in the right location for it, it should be under consideration17:23
sarob_Which could mean more developers and users17:23
dbitealso our project differs a lot from openstack manuals for arguments sake17:23
dbiteahh, I did not think of that17:23
dbitemore adoption17:23
sarob_Mgmt true we are different17:23
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sarob_iOS spell chk is killing me17:24
sarob_We want to stay in the docs program right?17:25
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sarob_Or not?17:25
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sarob_Anyone else want to weigh in?17:25
dbitesarob_: can we not stay under docs program17:26
dbiteas independent/incubated project?17:26
dbitewe need to stay in docs program17:26
dbiteotherwise reusing content would be difficult!17:26
sarob_I think it makes sense to stay in the docs program17:27
sayali_yeah its easier to manage the content for training guides with docs17:27
dbiteI would say that we need to stay in the docs program17:27
sarob_Well we are already In a separate repo17:27
dbiteyes, that is what I meant to ask, can we not be independent project under docs program?17:27
dbiteis that not possible?17:27
sarob_Reusing is as hard as it's going to be already17:27
sarob_Dbite yes we can stay under docs program17:28
dbitethen, I see no negative side for moving on17:28
sarob_Does anyone have a requirement of this project being incubated ?17:29
dbiteI think audio visual may be good reason17:29
dbitefor incubation17:29
sarob_How so?17:29
dbiteto manage the content17:30
dbitebut we need some progress under this sub team17:30
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sayali_I think a major change the incubation would bring is the increase in contributors17:30
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sayali_since it will bring to notice the different things being worked upon17:31
sarob_My goals for the team "I'm looking for greater adoption, participation, and keeping up with the releases. The recognition of incubation would help with that. "17:31
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dbiteI agree with sayali17:31
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dbitesarob_: I think that would be a good answer17:32
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dbitefor the question you asked :D17:32
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sarob_Anyone think we are not ready for incubation17:32
sarob_Or not understand what incubation is?17:33
sarob_Okey dokey17:33
MeganRHonestly, I don't understand what incubation is17:33
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sarob_Ah not a problem17:34
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sarob_As a project matures17:34
sarob_It gets recognized by the technology council TC17:34
sarob_The two stages right now are incubation and integrated17:35
sarob_Another of saying your team is mature17:35
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MeganRok, I am looking at the link Shilla sent, it makes sense to move forward17:36
sarob_I have our steps to incubation at the bottom of our wiki17:36
MeganRthank you17:36
sarob_I'm going to ask annegentle about the timing17:37
sarob_On the ML thread we have going17:37
sarob_Either before Paris or right after17:37
sarob_I'm thinking17:37
dbitewell, can we arrange for a meeting during the summit?17:37
dbiteto discuss this in person?17:38
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sarob_Let's ask on the ML thread17:38
sarob_I would be great to have the team chime in on the ML discussion17:39
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sarob_Let's move on17:39
sarob_#topic testing17:39
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sarob_Matjazp how's it going!17:40
sarob_Geez iOS 8 is really messing with me17:40
dbitematjazp will not be able to make it17:40
dbitecan someone paste his email17:40
dbitefor the sake of records?17:40
sayali_Unfortunately, it seems like I won’t be able to make it either. If I’m home in time, I’ll pop on IRC to talk to you guys in person.17:41
sayali_But just in case, a quick status for the Testing subproject:17:41
sayali_- Compute node quiz finished, with one longer question still in the pipeline - I have to amend the patch 121100.17:41
sayali_- I’m currently working on Network node Quizzes - draft is practically finished, the patch will be submitted soon17:41
sayali_- Megan sent me her draft for the object storage node quiz in the Associate guide, so I believe this patch will also be submitted soon.17:41
sayali_We have to debate a bit about the last thing that is missing - the Assessment (chapter 11) - next IRC meeting or maybe Docs ML?17:41
sarob_Dbite: did i miss an email17:41
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sayali_sarob: I guess you did17:41
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sarob_So the final test.17:42
dbiteone more thing from roger17:42
dbitehe could not make it too for the meeting17:42
sarob_I would normally think it would be made up of quiz question alternates17:42
sayali_Hi there17:42
sayali_I won't be able to make it to the IRC meeting today, so I'll give you a17:42
sayali_quick report via email.17:42
sayali_As far as I can tell, I have a working cluster now, meaning: I can boot an17:42
sayali_instance VM reliably, ping it and ssh into it. The required patches have17:42
sayali_been merged into the repo.17:42
sayali_I also submitted a patch that enables DNS name resolution within instance17:43
sayali_VMs. But Internet access for instance VMs will not be a standard feature17:43
sayali_(at least for now). If your computer has IP forwarding enabled, it will17:43
sayali_happily send out packets from the ext-subnet (192.168.100.x) toward the17:43
sayali_public Internet which is unlikely to yield the desired results. -- A17:43
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sayali_solution is for the host computer to masquerade packets coming from the17:43
sayali_instance VM. This is how I got it to work. However, configuring that is17:43
sayali_beyond the scope of the scripts.17:43
sayali_Although there are plenty of known issues with the scripts, they seem to be17:43
sayali_in a somewhat usable shape now. For some time we have been talking about17:43
sayali_getting outside testers involved. I propose that at least every one of you17:43
sayali_guys (core reviewers) should have successfully used the scripts before we17:43
sayali_encourage outside users to try it.17:43
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sayali_that was roger's email17:43
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sarob_About the assessment17:44
sarob_Does my comment make sense?17:45
dbiteI did not understand17:45
sarob_For the first two books17:45
dbiteahh yes17:45
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sarob_I think keeping the final test as a written17:46
sarob_Long version of the quizzes makes sense17:46
dbitesarob_: I think we should wait for Matjaz for this discussion17:46
sarob_With alt questions17:46
dbiteI cannot comment on this, sorry ... not a piece of my cake17:46
sarob_I'm not making a decision17:46
dbiteahh, well in that case17:47
sarob_Just stating my opinion17:47
dbitewe could have a written exam17:47
dbitebut do you think asking theory questions is a good idea?17:47
sarob_I think theory belongs to the last two books17:47
* dbite wants to state that he always failed in exams and is probably the worst person to ask about setting them 17:48
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sarob_I'm thinking first two are implementation17:48
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sarob_Last two are theory, creativity, outside the box17:48
dbitelets try not to call them theory17:49
sarob_Half written, half hands on17:49
dbitemore like deisng the architecture etc.17:49
sarob_Anyway let's wait for matjazp17:49
sarob_Moving on17:49
dbitebeing a prof. he is the best person17:50
sarob_#topic av17:50
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sarob_Saw the ml email17:50
sarob_Any response?17:50
sayali_got no response though17:50
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matjazphi all17:50
dbitehello matjazp, we missed you17:51
sarob_Matjazp hi!17:51
matjazpjust got home17:51
sayali_I have updated the wiki but we can't do much with the existing videos till we get the license sorted17:51
dbitecan I suggest to make our own content?17:52
dbitewe could have openstack-training channel on youtube and upload our own video17:52
sarob_Can you come up with a plan for user group17:52
sarob_That SFBay and others could start following?17:52
sayali_sarob: I don't understand what you say completely17:53
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sarob_The user groups are using the training content17:53
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sarob_They can make and use videos17:54
sayali_Oh that sounds good17:54
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sarob_This is the user group how to page #link
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sarob_Some bits are there on video recording17:56
sayali_ok will look at it17:56
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sarob_We should add to it17:56
sarob_I will ask user groups to follow17:56
dbitesarob_: it would be great to have user groups contribute by creating videos17:56
dbiteI like that idea17:56
sayali_alright sarob17:56
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sarob_#topic any other business17:57
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matjazpyes, training team can be more or less like editors... selecting best available content17:57
dbite#action sayali will contribute on a model for user groups to follow and create AV content17:57
sarob_Action #sayali_ will work on the user group training videos plan on the user group wiki17:57
sarob_Beat me17:58
sarob_Matjazp and the foundation17:58
matjazpsarob_: sure17:58
dbitesarob: you did a typo17:58
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sarob_And we coordinate more with reed17:58
dbite#action sayali will work on the yser group training videos plan on the user group wiki17:58
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reeddid you follow the hangout last friday by Dague and Pipes?17:59
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matjazpreed: Dague will have more or less more advanced content, yes?17:59
dbitetime check17:59
sarob_Reed didn't I was running the policy summit :(17:59
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matjazptime's up.. bye18:00
reedmatjazp, it's content for developers, not necessarily 'advanced'18:00
sarob_We can move to docs channel18:00
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krtaylor#startmeeting third-party18:00
openstackMeeting started Mon Sep 22 18:00:49 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is krtaylor. Information about MeetBot at
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krtaylorhello everyone, hope you are here for another great third-party meeting18:01
krtayloranyone ?18:01
krtaylorhello asselin18:01
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daya_khi krtaylore18:02
daya_ksorry :) krtaylore18:02
daya_koops, jellyfingers today.18:02
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krtaylorgood, well lets get started18:03
krtaylor#topic Welcome & Reminder of OpenStack Mission18:03
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krtaylor#info The OpenStack Open Source Cloud Mission: to produce the ubiquitous Open Source Cloud Computing platform that will meet the needs of public and private clouds regardless of size, by being simple to implement and massively scalable.18:03
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krtaylorreminder of the mission out of the way, so lets review18:04
krtaylor#topic Review of previous week's open action items18:04
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krtaylorso that's easy, none from last week18:04
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krtaylorwe have a few good topics this week18:04
krtaylor#topic Announcements18:05
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anteaya#info Infra would support work on this feature (anteaya)18:05
krtayloranteaya, you had an announcement for infra features18:05
krtayloryes, your floor anteaya18:05
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uvirtbotanteaya: Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out18:05
anteayaso last week it was discovered taht third party folks would benefit from a filter in zuul that upstream doesn't need18:06
anteayahave a look at the bug report18:06
anteayafungi knows the details18:06
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fungii do?18:06
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anteayaask him if you need more but infra would accept patches that impliments this feature18:06
anteayahi fungi, yes the zuul feature item for third party18:06
fungioh, i'm starting to remember18:07
anteayayeah, that18:07
fungifiles filter for pipelijnes18:07
anteayaso hep here is appreaciated18:07
anteayaany questions?18:07
fungihep! hep!18:07
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anteayaokay done18:07
fungiyes, if someone wants to implement that feature in zuul, we're more than open to it i think18:07
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clarkbwe have a file filter18:08
fungiclarkb: it's for jobs, not pipelines18:08
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clarkbrequirements jobs use it but it is per job18:08
fungiunless there's a pipelines trigger one which isn't documented and if so i didn't see it in the source either18:08
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fungibasically zuul lets you limit jobs and pipeline triggers by branch pattern, but only lets you limit jobs by file pattern18:10
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fungiso the idea would be to extend that to pipeline triggers, just like branch patterns are18:10
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krtaylorgot it, sounds like a useful patch18:11
fungian alternative option might be for zuul to grow a toggle which tells it not to report if it runs no jobs18:12
fungieither of those would, i think make it possible for zuul deployments to report on changes with specific files touched, but not report on other changes to the same project18:12
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krtaylorthat might eliminate a lot of noise18:13
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fungiand since there seemed to be increasing willingness from projects to see third parties only report on changes touching specific files, this seems like a reasonable thing to support (suppressing reports from systems which ran no jobs on a change)18:14
krtayloryes, anyone interested?18:14
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krtaylorI'll take a look at it, if no one else steps up18:15
asselinI have interest, but I can't commit to that in the near term.18:15
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krtaylorasselin, agreed, me too, maybe we can both work through it18:16
clarkbI see. is the issue reporting when no jobs match a job based file filter?18:16
asselinkrtaylor, sure18:16
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krtaylorfungi? clarkb's question?18:18
krtaylorIIUC, it is because there is not a file filter, so everything reports by default18:18
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daya_k if zuul does not map a change to a job today, it doesnt report anything, right? so, this is about the granularity of mapping a job to a change within a project?18:19
fungiclarkb: so for those changes, zuul reports that it successfully ran no jobs, as configured18:20
daya_kfungi : how about the regex's. i thought those were being used today, although i havent been able to get ci-name:recheck to work properly, but thats a separate point18:21
krtayloryep, understood18:21
fungidaya_k: unrelated. you just need to configure the comment-added trigger pattern for your pipeline to match the comments for which your system reacts18:22
krtaylordaya_k, regex works, we (PowerKVM) use it, ping me in infra after the meeting, or bring that up in opendiscussion18:22
krtayloropen discussion18:22
daya_kkrtaylor thanks,  i'll catch you later with the configured pattern, i have it but somethings missing18:22
krtaylorok, anything else on this feature?18:23
krtaylorthanks fungi, clarkb, anteaya18:23
krtaylorasselin, you're up next - discuss a change?18:23
asselinsure. I uploaded a change to devstack-gate that I think is relevant to other 3rd party18:24
asselinI would like some reviews / let you know it's there so you can use it18:24
asselinit basically adds some more hooks to do some cleanup after a job runs18:25
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anteayathat is for the general direction and thank you for the patch18:26
anteayaas I state in my review, I don't know enough about devstack-gate code to offer an opinion as to whether this is the best implimentation18:26
asselinso e.g. my use case is to test our cinder driver. I cleanup the backend after each test run using the pre_clean_hook18:26
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asselinotherwise we end up with lots of stuff lingering around waiting for manual cleanup18:27
daya_kasselin : +1, yes, i think this is great if esp if you dont have single use nodes18:27
asselinI write the hook function directly in my jenkins job that runs the test.18:27
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krtaylorasselin, good, I'll get some of my team to take a look at the patch too18:28
asselinbascially copied and pasted from the other hooks in the file.18:28
krtaylorasselin, anything else?18:29
asselinthat's it!18:29
krtaylorthanks, on to Program items then18:29
krtaylor#topic OpenStack Program items18:29
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anteaya#info Preparing for Summit (anteaya)18:29
krtayloranteaya, you are up first18:30
daya_kasselin : fyi, i am doing cleanup activities in pre_test_hook today, but a separate hook is also good18:30
anteayaso some folks have added their thoughts to the etherpad, thank you18:30
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anteayawe have one item with no owner, if noone takes ownership that item will be moved off of the list18:30
anteayaI had thought we would have more items than we do by this point, but I can't but words in other people's mouths18:31
krtaylorI have some items too, bad krtaylor for not getting that done last week18:31
anteayaany one with thoughts on what is written there so far?18:31
krtaylorthere are some meaty topics there, I want to see more requirement development18:32
krtaylorI'll get that added18:32
anteayawhat do you mean by more requirement development18:32
anteayafolks can't meet the requirements we *have*18:33
anteayawhat is the point of adding more?18:33
krtaylorthere is a need for defining cross-project requirements as well as what the individual projects have defined, and a directory18:33
krtaylorI'll add that to the list18:33
anteayaalso please add your name to the etherpad, top right18:33
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anteayawhat are cross-project requirements?18:33
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krtayloranteaya, not so much more18:34
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krtaylorjust recording what we have18:34
anteayathank you daya_k18:34
daya_kthanks, i didnt see that before18:34
anteayaour requirements are recorded18:34
krtaylorand organizing it better so that it is easier to follow18:34
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anteayaoffer patches to third-party.rst18:34
anteayaI am clearly missing something18:34
anteayawhat is the goal here?18:34
krtaylorso many don't even know what we are doing here, I just encountered that this morning18:34
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anteayathat is not due to a shortage of requirements, believe me18:35
krtaylorthe goal is to add items to the planning document18:35
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anteayathat is due to management memoing them to set up a ci and giving them zero time to learn a dev workflow18:35
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krtaylorso we shouldnt allow that until they know about this :)18:36
anteayatheir management has given them unreasonable directives18:36
anteayaallow that?18:36
anteayahow can we stop management from being unreasonable?18:36
krtaylorgetting a service id is the last step, not the first18:36
krtaylorlets table this for a discussion on the planning document18:37
anteayathis is a discussion on the planning document18:37
krtaylorat a later time, then I can be more precise with my wording where time to type is not a factor18:38
anteayasince I don't see that having an item at summit to discuss more requirements is a good use of time18:38
anteayaand obviously there are others that think more requirements is a solution here18:38
anteayaand I strongly disagree18:38
anteayamore understanding from vendor companies of our developer workflow is what is needed18:39
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anteayabut I see no way that management would listen to that18:39
krtaylornot sure why you are attacking more requirements, again, my choice of words has been retracted18:39
anteayaand I have no way to translate that into a requirement18:39
anteayaI am not attacking18:39
anteayaI am curious to know what the underlying issue is18:40
anteayasince I don't know what it is18:40
krtaylorI think that is fixed by reordering what we have, not creating new18:40
daya_kso, my thoughts as a consumer - the wiki page is much more high level and incomplete, jay pipes blog has a good basic tutorial, that sort of info could be pulled into the wiki18:40
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krtaylorwell, when I get it entered, we can discuss it18:40
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anteayadaya_k: great, would you like to do that?18:41
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daya_kanteaya : i could take a shot at it, what timeline though18:41
krtaylordaya_k, agreed, its not that the info doesnt exist at all18:41
anteayakrtaylor: reording the requirements is fine, but I think it is a meeting agenda item, not a summit item18:41
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anteayadaya_k: well it has never been done, so sometime between now and eternity?18:41
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daya_k:) let me take a todo on it18:42
krtaylormy proposal would require infra to change policy too18:42
anteayadaya_k: I have no timeline, since if you don't do it it won't get done which is no different from what we have now18:42
anteayakrtaylor: then I suggest you make an item on the infra agenda18:42
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anteayakrtaylor: since if this is your thinking, if the first time jeblair hears about it is summit, it doesn't have a good chance of success18:43
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krtaylorbut, there are 5 or so items in my head, I have no desire to discuss them before I have put them in the planning document18:43
anteayakrtaylor: jeblair likes items on the infra agenda18:43
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ociuhanduhello all, sorry for being so late18:43
ociuhandukrtaylor: sorry, was out of office, just managed to get back now18:43
krtaylorociuhandu, great, almost there18:44
krtayloranteaya, what is the timeline to close out this planning etherpad18:44
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anteayakrtaylor: when it is done18:44
krtaylorwell, I would assume that would be before summit?18:44
anteayato be honest, based on the number of submissions right now, I don't feel like we have enough to justify a space18:45
anteayaif we don't have items down soon, I have no reason to elbow out other folks with a more complete plan18:45
anteayawhy does everyone need a deadline in order to get anything done18:45
anteayawhat is wrong with just doing the work?18:46
anteayathis is very frustrating18:46
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anteayaas soon as a deadline is selected the only thing I know is that noone will do anything until after it has passed and someone goes around with a reminder18:46
krtayloranteaya, realities of a day job18:46
anteayathis is not an efficient way to work in open source18:47
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anteayawell it isn't a good use of my time18:47
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ociuhanduanteaya: regarding your comment on the etherpad doc: I was referring to requirements for getting the voting rights, not for having a CI18:47
anteayaso set whatever deadline you want and either do it or don't do it18:47
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anteayaociuhandu: that outlines how to get voting rights18:48
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anteayaociuhandu: if you think that process needs more clarity do offer a patch18:48
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ociuhanduanteaya: ok, will try to put together one18:49
anteayaociuhandu: thank you, set the topic to third-party please18:49
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krtayloranteaya, anything else on the summit preparations18:51
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anteayajust that there had better be something worth discussing soon on that etherpad otherwise I won't be pushing for a space for third party18:53
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anteayathat's it18:53
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ociuhandufrom what I have observed, most implemented recheck-<system-name> after the last “main CI” rules update18:56
ociuhanduwhile the doc says: “Some third-party CI systems may not have the resources to be able to support all rechecks meant for other systems…”18:56
krtaylorrecheck-<name> should recheck jenkins too, since everything following recheck is considered a comment to jenkins18:57
ociuhanduthat translates, for me, that I don’t have to support “recheck”18:57
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krtaylorociuhandu, yes, but that is not the only reason18:57
ociuhanduas long as I support “recheck-<system>”18:57
krtaylorI can remove that18:57
asselinalso for developers, they may have an expectation that only 1 ci system is going to get checked18:57
krtayloryes, that is correct, at least that is my proposal18:57
krtaylorasselin, that goes back to jenkins recheck on recheck*18:58
ociuhanduand 2nd, is why can’t we decide between the third-parties on a naming that will not involve regriterring Jenkins?18:58
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asselinmaybe we can change it to: <third-party-ci>:check18:58
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krtaylorasselin, that is sdague 's original proposal18:58
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krtaylorasselin, namespaces for each system got voted down18:59
ociuhandue.g. instead of “recheck-<system-name>” to “check-<system-name>” or as asselin suggested?18:59
krtaylorthat didn't work18:59
asselinwhy? I think that is most developer-friendly18:59
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krtaylorinfra didnt like it18:59
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krtaylorand we are out of time18:59
krtaylorwe'll have to hit any open discussion items next week19:00
krtaylorthanks everyone, move to -infra19:00
anteayathanks krtaylor19:00
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NobodyCamthank you krtaylor and anteaya19:01
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anteayaNobodyCam: :D19:01
NobodyCamWho's here for the Ironic Meeting?19:01
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devananda#startmeeting ironic19:01
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NobodyCamhi all19:01
devanandaas usual, our agenda is here:
jrollI always feel like this is a talk show with a big musical intro led by the bot19:01
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devanandajroll: lol19:02
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devananda#topic announcements19:02
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devanandaI have a few things that we should probably cover in the opening section19:02
devanandaapologies in advance for not stashing those on the wiki, they should be quick19:03
devanandafirst, of course, congrats to everyone on all the work getting the project to the point where the TC felt comfortable integrating it19:03
NobodyCamgreat work everyone!!!!19:03
devanandathat doesn't change any of our plans, and doesn't affect us in the Juno timeframe19:03
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devanandait does mean we'll actually need a doc writer to be involved in Ironic (and in the OpenStack Docs program) during Kilo19:04
jroll\o/ nice work, everyone19:04
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NobodyCamdevananda: will we have to come up with this person? oe will they?19:04
devanandathat's a significant gap in our current community contributions19:04
devanandaNobodyCam: who's "they" ?19:05
NobodyCamthe OpenStack Docs program folks19:05
devanandathis is not something the openstack doc team provides19:05
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devanandawe need a person on our team who works with them19:05
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devanandajust like we've had folks on our team who have worked with the qa and devstack and infra folks for the last year19:05
NobodyCamdo we have a time line to select this person?19:05
devanandait could be mroe than one person19:06
devanandaand I don't think we "select" them19:06
devanandawe are still in feature freeze / string freeze / focus on bugs mdoe for a bit longer. and a big thanks to everyone who's working on that19:07
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devanandaalso, I am going to run for PTL again this cycle (sending that letter is on my todo for tonight)19:07
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* NobodyCam +1's devananda nomanation19:08
devanandaI will continue counting on folks to assist with running the project -- and want to thank lucas (who's not here?) and NobodyCam for that19:08
devanandain an ideal world, I'd like to have others who could step in for me if need be by the end of Kilo19:09
jroll+millions for thanking all three of you19:09
GheRivero++ for all three19:09
devananda(I dont like being a SPoF, and I dont think enough folks know how to do the release management things right now, for example)19:09
devanandaok - that's all for my announcements!19:10
devanandaNobodyCam: have anything?19:10
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NobodyCamnope you covered what I had19:10
devananda#topic RC status19:10
jrollI'd like to announce that CI for the agent driver has landed :D19:10
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* jroll will go more into that later19:11
devanandajroll: awesome! yep, let's get to that in the IPA section19:11
devanandawe still have a lot of in progress bugs up there19:11
devananda4 are tagged "High"19:11
devananda#1279331 conductor lacks periodic task to keep PXE env up to date19:11
devananda#1342919 instances rescheduled after building network info do not update the MAC19:12
devananda#1347604 ironic-dbsync fails on SQLite due to bad support of migrations19:12
devananda#1355510 conductor hash ring is not updated as nodes arrive and leave19:12
Shrewsdevananda: 1347604 is just documentation now, so not really "high" at this point19:12
devananda#1279331 and #1355510 are related. last week we talked a bit about that -- what's the sense on whether we can make those changes in Juno?19:13
dtantsurI'd still call it high19:13
wanyen_deva, is not on the RC1 milestone.  Can ywe add it on the list?19:13
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1370466 in ironic "pxe_ilo driver will fail on ipmitool error after switching from uefi to bios boot mode" [Medium,In progress]19:13
devanandaShrews, dtantsur: I don't think a doc bug is high at this point in the release cycle -- it's not something to block the release on.19:13
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dtantsurdevananda, well, it make our quick start guide not work as it's written. don't know if it's high19:14
devanandawanyen_: it looks like a patch is in flight, though i need to review the bug's alternatives19:14
wanyen_deva, yes the fixes has been submitted.19:14
devanandadtantsur: not saying it's not a bug -- just that that doesn't meet the standards for "high"19:15
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dtantsurprobably, yeah19:15
Shrewsdtantsur: we could close it with my current patch, and open a new bug for documenting ironic-dbsync more thoroughly19:15
devanandawanyen_: targeted19:15
wanyen_deav, ty19:15
devanandaso, what's the concensus on the hash ring?19:16
devanandai think we need to make a decision today19:16
devanandaand either fix it in the next few days or bump it to kilo19:16
jroll"use the agent driver" is my answer to that :P19:16
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* NobodyCam would vote to bump to kilo19:16
jrollmy question is, do we think we can fix it that quickly?19:16
Shrewsdevananda: greghaynes suggested bumping, and i agree19:16
devanandaif we bump it to kilo, we need to include documentation about that limitation in the release notes19:16
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dtantsurI don't think we can fix it in a couple of days19:16
rloodoesn't even look like anyone is assigned to 127933119:16
JayF+1 to release note19:16
rloowould love to have hash ring fixed in next few days, but not sure it is possible. is there a (sorry) design for it?19:17
NobodyCamI think that is the best course at this late stage in the release cycle19:17
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NobodyCambumpping to kilo that is19:18
devanandarloo: afaik, no formal spec. lots of bugs and discussion on them, though19:18
jroll+1, it's sad but I think that's the best route19:18
devanandayea, that makes me a bit sad too19:18
rloodevananda: so the bugs/discussions (for me) ought to be agreed on first, before reviewing any code.19:18
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devanandai should have kept better track of that work post midcycle19:19
devanandait's a fairly serious bug for anyone using the curent pxe driver and more than one conductor, fwiw19:20
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jrolland I do expect to see people deploying juno19:20
rloodevananda: there is more than RC1 before the juno release. do we have more than a few days to fix the hash ring?19:20
devanandaare there other bugs which folks feel should block the release?19:20
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dtantsurabout "#1342919 instances rescheduled after building network info do not update the MAC"19:21
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dtantsurI think it should be clarified in the bug, what else needs to be done19:21
jrolldtantsur: I thought that was fixed?19:21
dtantsurit looks like blocking rc1, but does not look like it requires changes in Ironic itself19:21
devanandarloo: yes. RC1 is the point we re-open the main development tree19:21
devanandarloo: but we can continue to have RC2...N if necessary over the next few weeks19:22
jrollI'm fairly certain that's done, hm19:22
devanandarloo: the problem is, they take significantly more work to backport bug fixes to those branches19:22
dtantsurjroll, that's why I'm asking for clarification19:22
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* jroll looks19:22
rloodevananda: so I think we should try to get the hash ring stuff in.19:22
devanandarloo: so if we plan on making some big change / fixing soem big bug, it's better to delay the RC1 tag19:22
devanandarloo: I agree19:22
rloooh, if we can delay RC1, that might be better. How long can we delay it for?19:22
devanandaI would actually really like to see it fixed in Juno19:23
jrollthis was the fix afaik19:23
jrolldtantsur: ^19:23
jrollcomstud: is fixed here, yes?
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1342919 in ironic "instances rescheduled after building network info do not update the MAC" [High,In progress]19:23
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devanandarloo: we /should/ tag it this thursday. delaying it means delaying downstream testing19:24
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Shrewsdevananda: hrm, if the hashring stuff is going to affect usability, we probably *should* try to get something in19:25
rloodevananda: so maybe we should discuss after meeting, about hash ring. i don't know what the status is with that. I'm willing to help out, but I think we need to see where we're at and what needs to be done to fix.19:26
devanandaok. let's dig into that after the meeting19:26
devanandaif there are no other bugs that folks feel should block RC1, I will start bumping things tomorrow19:26
devanandaand the release will be tagged when contains no open bugs19:26
dtantsurI'm really feeling like closing right now. Objections?19:26
devanandaI will bump anything below High at this point, fwiw19:26
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1342919 in ironic "instances rescheduled after building network info do not update the MAC" [High,In progress]19:26
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devanandadtantsur: oh - taht's fixed in Nova now?19:27
devanandaif that's a bug in the virt driver,a nd fixed in Nova, it's not a bug in Ironic any more, right?19:27
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dtantsurdevananda, jroll posted
dtantsurwhich presumably means it's fixed19:28
NobodyCamwould it be worth trying to get bugs like: thru19:28
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1323589 in ironic "Installation guide needs updating" [Medium,In progress]19:28
devanandaNobodyCam: no. that can be done later19:28
devanandaNobodyCam: doc bugs don't block a code release19:28
devanandasince committing changes to the doc/source/* tree immediately updates the website19:28
devanandathere's no need to backport those to a release candidate branch19:29
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devanandadtantsur: closing that bug looks appropirate19:29
dtantsurack thanks19:29
devanandaok. going to move on so that we have time to cover other things too19:29
dtantsur-1 high bug!19:29
devananda#topic Kilo summit planning19:29
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devanandakeeping this -really- brief today19:29
wanyen_deva, we have not submitted ilo driver doc and uefi doc.  Do we need to file a bug for them?19:30
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devanandajust a reminder that, once the RC is tagged, we'll open development and start accepting specs and thinking abotu planning and stuff19:30
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devanandawanyen_: those don't need bugs. please submit the docs ASAP.19:30
wanyen_deva, ok19:30
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NobodyCamdo we have any ideas for the pod signup sheet? or just in general how the will be handled19:30 the POD will be...19:31
devanandaNobodyCam: I don't know what day(s) we'll be scheduled on, or hwo many official sessions we'll have.19:31
devanandaNobodyCam: so yes, we'll need to run a POD, and we'll need a process for that.19:31
devanandaI've suggested using a google doc19:31
* devananda finds the link19:31
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devanandaplease start jotting down your session ideas there19:32
devanandait's open to anyone to edit19:32
devanandawe'll discuss it in the following weeks (but not today)19:32
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devanandaalso, fyi, if you want to discuss something in another program's track19:33
devanandathose are linked / tracked here:19:33
devanandasome are using etherpads, some are using gdocs...19:33
devanandathere will be no planning website like we had at the last developer summits19:33
devanandamoving on ...19:34
devananda#topic subteam reports19:34
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devanandaadam_g: hi! testing status?19:34
adam_ghi, still having a hard time getting -infra to push two changes that will enable the grenade testing.19:34
devanandaadam_g: looks like we're still waiting for the tempest parallel -nv test to be merged to infra19:34
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adam_gjroll has landed all of the IPA stuff and it looks like there is a new non-voting job that will be propagating out to jenkins slaves now19:35
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devanandaI think we're going to need the grenade test to be run on the RC branches to give us confidence that it will pass on the juno/stable branch once that is cut19:35
devanandajroll: awesome!19:35
devanandaadam_g: anything I can do to help?19:36
adam_gdevananda, yeah. ill be more vocal today about getting that stuff reviewed19:36
adam_gseems i can get one +2, then it languishes for a rebase before the next core will look at it19:36
jrolladam_g: btw, can you add the agent_ssh job to ? :)19:36
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adam_gjroll, yea19:37
jroll(no rush)19:37
adam_gshould probably make that page a bit more readable19:37
adam_gaside from the on-going CI stuff, one point i wanted to bring up re stable/icehouse19:37
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adam_gthe current tempest job is voting on stable/icehouse patches, but our API has changed in juno and the baremetal tests no longer pass against incehouse19:38
devanandaadam_g: oh? what part of our API ?19:38
adam_gdue to addition get/set boot device API, and some changes around console19:38
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devanandaI thought branchless tempest' goal was to prevent that sort of thing19:38
devananda(but IMBW)19:39
adam_gyeah, it is19:39
devanandaoooh - i see19:39
adam_gbut we haven't been paying too close attention to the stable/icehouse branch19:39
devanandawe added features to the API without making tempest able to NOT run those tests19:39
adam_gthe features were added, then tests19:39
devanandaadam_g: yup. thanks for bringing that up. we'll need to keep track of stable/juno much better during Kilo than we did with stable/icehouse19:39
devanandaadam_g: are there bugs open for this?19:40
adam_gmy question: should we turn tempest off for stable/icehouse and maintain that branch as a best effort, and promise API stability starting with juno?19:40
devanandait seems like we should make the client smart enough to discover that those endpoints aren't present, rather than what it is probably doing now19:40
mtreinishdevananda: well you should be voting in kilo, so those should changes should be blocked across a release boundary19:40
adam_gdevananda, well, we're using the tempest baremteal client, not python-ironicclient.19:41
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devanandaadam_g: right. we need to do both, IMO.19:41
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devanandamtreinish: i'm not sure what you mean by "blocked" here...19:41
mtreinishit would bounce of the gate with a failing test if you proposed a breaking api change19:42
devanandamtreinish: taht further changes of this type wouldn't be possible because stable/juno will vote on kilo patches in Ironic and tempest, or something else?19:42
devanandamtreinish: if we proposed a new test in tempest which passed on master/kilo but failed on stable/juno?19:43
mtreinishdevananda: yeah basically the branchless tempest advantages should prevent you from breaking an api that's already got coverage19:43
devanandamtreinish: great19:43
adam_gdevananda, as i said, one issue was the new features added. the other was a straight up modification to the API:
mtreinishdevananda: well yeah it'll still be dependent on test coverage, but:
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devanandaadam_g: ah. yup. that happened :(19:44
devanandaadam_g: so we should prevent that happening again19:45
devanandamoving on so we dont run out of time19:45
devanandadtantsur: bugs! we covered the release blocking ones already, but do you have anything to add?19:45
adam_gdevananda, definitely, and i think we will, since stable/juno will be better maintained and see official releases19:45
dtantsurOpen: 100 (-11). 3 new (-3), 32 in progress (-4), 0 critical (-1), 10 high (-1) and 4 incomplete (-1); juno-rc1: 15 (-3)19:45
dtantsurgood job, though 15 for rc1 is hard ;)19:46
dtantsuralso, I started again pocking folks about forgotten bugs19:46
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devanandadtantsur: thanks!19:46
dtantsurplease have a look at what you're assigned to:19:46
NobodyCamdtantsur: high is at 9 now?19:46
devanandayea, we have 9 High bugs, but only 4 targeted to RC19:47
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devanandadtantsur: I'm going to bump non-High RC-targeted bugs in the next day or so, fyi19:47
dtantsurheh, my site is sometimes slow to update :)19:47
devanandadrivers -- jroll, linggao, and wanyen -- anything to announce or discuss?19:47
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jrollas I said before, we now have upstream CI for agent_ssh driver19:48
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jrollnow the main focus for IPA, for the remainder of the cycle, is docs and packaging19:48
jrollJayF: did we make any decisions this morning about packaging IPA?19:48
devanandajroll: awesome19:48
JayFWould it be OK if we punted on real "packaging" of IPA this cycle?19:49
devanandaJayF: ++19:49
linggaoYes, we have added a "IBM xCAT CI" in Ironic review page for the third party CI test for your patches.19:49
wanyen_we have landed iso image build script to ipa.19:49
JayFTag a release in git, yes. Upload to pypi, yes... but maybe instruct distro packager to hold off a cycle19:49
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jrollJayF: I'm cool with that :)19:49
wanyen_we are working on doc and do more testing19:49
linggaoIt tests the ipminative with real hardware.19:49
jrollJayF: and by packaging I mean any/all packaging, not only distro. but I like your plan.19:49
devanandawanyen_: nice!19:49
linggaoIt is non-voting19:49
jrolllinggao: that's awesome :D I'd like to do the same19:49
NobodyCamwanyen_: awesome:)19:49
JayFdevananda: wdyt? Agreed with upload to pypi and tagging in git but punting on distro packaging?19:50
wanyen_we plan to submit dib element for iso image build script19:50
devanandawanyen_: what are your thoughts on getting third-party CI system reporting tests of the iLO driver on real hardware?19:50
wanyen_we are lookin ginto that for kilo19:50
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jrollwanyen_: CI can be set up any time, even during feature freeze :)19:50
devanandaJayF: I think it's too late tojust now  start packaging for a Juno release19:50
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devanandalinggao: great job on the third-party CI stuff. I've added a little info to the wiki, but I would appreciate it if you have more you can share19:51
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JayFdevananda: curious what you mean, in detail, by packaging... would my proposal of cutting a release to pypi and tagging something in git be OK?19:51
jroll^ I added to that already for agent things19:52
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devanandaJayF: let's talk a bit more, I think it's worth getting infra's opinion on it as I'm not a packaging/release expert19:52
devanandaJayF: fwiw, I think pushing a tagged release to pypi is the right approach, but IMBW19:53
devanandalinggao: I would love to have a page that shows me the status of all ibm-xcat tests over time, similar to the page adam_g has here for the upstream tests19:53
devanandaeventually I would like a summary of all the test stats to be on the wiki19:54
linggaodevananda, ok. We'll see what we can do for that.19:54
NobodyCamfive minutes19:55
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wanyen_Just to clarify- we did ilo driver test on real hardware19:55
devanandaany other comments or questions about drivers?19:55
devanandawill move on to open discussion in 20 seconds :)19:55
devananda#topic open discussion19:56
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NobodyCamwanted to ask if we should come up with a version / feature comparison chart. I've already started to questions about what packaged version of openstack work with Ironic...19:56
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jrollNobodyCam: "packaged version" being like the things HP / mirantis package up and ship?19:56
NobodyCam*started to SEE questions19:56
jrollNobodyCam: I would think the answer would be "anything that runs on juno" for now19:57
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NobodyCamand the distros like the zigo stuff this mornign in channel19:57
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jrollthat said, I don't think, as a project, we should care about packaged versions of openstack; those questions should be pointed at $packager support19:57
jrollah ok19:57
devanandaNobodyCam: so, we can not and should not get in the habit of answering questions about distros19:57
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devanandajroll: exactly19:57
NobodyCamack ... just want to check19:58
devanandaNobodyCam: zigo's questions seemed to boil down to "does current trunk of Ironic work with the .deb of Icehouse Nova?"19:58
devanandaNobodyCam: which is quite different from a version / feature comparison chart19:58
devanandawhich some other openstack projects have tried to maintain19:58
devanandalike, what features work on vendor X hardware19:59
devanandaI actually really want us to avoid that19:59
jroll30 seconds19:59
NobodyCamac ++19:59
NobodyCamthank you all! great meeting19:59
jrolllet's move to our channel, thanks everyone :)19:59
devanandacheers, thanks all!19:59
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mesterybanix: Meeting is tomorrow morning :)21:00
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banixmestery: :)21:01
mesterybanix: But I love your enthusiasm ;)21:01
banixmestery: :) I thought I had corrected my calendar; apparently not!21:01
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banixmestery: the wiki says “Tuesday (9/23/2014) at 2100 “ should be 1400 UTC. Right?21:05
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mesteryYes, sorry, adjusting now21:06
mesterybanix: done21:06
banixnp; thanks21:06
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