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yamahata#startmeeting servicevm-device-manager05:01
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep 23 05:01:22 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is yamahata. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.05:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.05:01
s3wongbmelande doesn't seem to be here05:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: servicevm-device-manager)"05:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'servicevm_device_manager'05:01
yamahata#chair s3wong natarajk vishwanathj05:01
openstackCurrent chairs: natarajk s3wong vishwanathj yamahata05:01
yamahata#topic Announcement05:02
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yamahatasummit planning is going on05:02
yamahata#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-neutron-summit-topics05:02
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yamahatathanks for adding topics05:02
s3wongyamahata: I added an entry on ServiceVM05:02
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yamahataWe would also discuss on router and firewall stuff.05:03
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yamahataI'll upload new WIP snapshot code this week hopefully.05:04
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yamahataany other to annouce?05:04
natarajkyamahata: are you working on any reference implementation ?05:05
yamahatanatarajk: routervm reference implementation as PoC of servicevm framework05:05
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yamahataThere are three vendors to proposing their  own outervm/firewallvm05:06
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yamahataTo verify/promote servicevm project we need opensource reference implementation05:06
yamahataIt took much longer than I expected unfortunately. I wanted to have it work earlier.05:07
yamahata#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/72068/05:08
yamahataThe code is above05:08
openstackRemoving item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0x1ef7bd0>05:09
yamahata#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116773/05:09
yamahataWIP: router vm l3 plugin/driver/agent05:09
natarajkthanks for the link05:09
yamahata#topic Open Discussion05:10
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yamahataany topics to discuss this week?05:11
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yamahataFor routervm case, I suppose we'd like to allow multiple type of routers to coexist, wouldn't we?05:13
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yamahataAt least, reference defact router + vendor routervm05:14
natarajkWill they be selected by 'Flavors' in a typical deployment ?05:14
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yamahatanatarajk: yeah, you read my mind05:14
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yamahataI'll add it to summit topic05:15
yamahata#action yamahata add flavors + l3 router to summit topic05:16
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yamahataany other topic?05:19
s3wongyamahata: Flavor is also one of the topics applied for slots at summit05:20
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yamahatas3wong: great. which line?05:21
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s3wongyamahata: 6505:22
yamahatas3wong: thanks,05:22
s3wongyamahata: though you can put it under ServiceVM -- since we don't have a say in combining sessions anyway (up to PTL and cores)05:22
yamahatas3wong: i see. Probably we need to parasite neutron session05:24
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s3wongyamahata: last time in Atlanta, we got half session that was the absolute last one during the summit05:25
s3wongyamahata: this time, with less session slots --- let's hope for the best...05:25
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yamahataand many people already left for their returning trip05:25
yamahatas3wong: Sure, let's hope. and try to allocate pod area or somewhere.05:26
s3wongyamahata: certainly for pod area05:26
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yamahataokay, any other topic? or let's close today's meeting05:27
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yamahataseems no more topic. thank you every one.05:29
s3wongthank you05:29
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natarajkthanks. bye05:29
openstackMeeting ended Tue Sep 23 05:29:20 2014 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)05:29
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markmcclainarmax, obondarev, marun, emagana: ping14:01
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armaxmarkmcclain: pong14:02
markmcclaingaryk: ping14:02
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markmcclain#startmeeting Networking14:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep 23 14:02:34 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is markmcclain. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'networking'14:02
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markmcclainmestery is returning from a school event so will join us in a few minutes14:03
markmcclain#chair mestery14:03
openstackCurrent chairs: markmcclain mestery14:03
markmcclain#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings Agenda14:03
markmcclain#topic Announcements14:03
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markmcclain#info RC-1 will be cut soon14:03
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markmcclainAt this point we are in a string, feature and requirements freeze14:04
markmcclain#topic Bugs14:05
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markmcclainenikanorov: hi14:05
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obondarevenikanorov is on business trip, not sure he can join..14:05
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markmcclainobondarev: ok.. thanks for letting me know14:05
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markmcclainAnyone have bugs the team should be made aware of?14:06
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jschwarzI have a bug Ihar wanted to talk about14:06
jschwarzPlease look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/137243814:06
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1372438 in neutron "Race condition in l2pop drops tunnels" [Undecided,In progress]14:06
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jschwarzThere was a regression done a while back (explained in the launchpad) and a fix has already been proposed14:06
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jschwarzIhar asked me to see if you could bump it up to RC1 and change the importance14:07
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markmcclainI can look into it further after the meeting14:07
obondarevnew critical bug was reported recently by garyk14:07
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1372570 in neutron "Booting multiple instances causes race with port security groups" [Critical,In progress]14:07
markmcclainjschwarz: also seems that there is a related bug14:07
armaxjschwarz, markmcclain I have been looking at that one too14:07
armaxI’ll keep an eye on it14:08
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markmcclainarmax: if you want to take the lead that would be great14:08
jschwarzthank you armax and markmcclain, I'll let Ihar know :)14:08
* mestery catches up14:08
obondarevthe patch is on review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123187/14:08
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amotokiam looking it14:08
salv-orlandoobondarev: could you confirm the bug? It is so blatant I wonder how comes we figured it out now only14:08
jschwarzihrachyshka, ^14:09
salv-orlandoaccording to this bug deployers should have ended up with hundreds of thousands of security groups in the admin profile14:09
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obondarevsalv-orlando: didn't have a chance to triage it yet14:09
armaxmarkmcclain: there is also #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1371732 that carl_baldwin is addressing14:10
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1371732 in neutron "create_port failure resulting in Lock wait timeout" [Critical,In progress]14:10
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mesteryAlso, salv-orlando, any updates on this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/132365814:10
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1323658 in nova "Nova resize/restart results in guest ending up in inconsistent state with Neutron" [Critical,Confirmed]14:10
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carl_baldwinarmax:  Thanks for bringing that up.  I was about to mention it.14:10
salv-orlandomestery: we have arosen working on dansmith for bug 132365814:10
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1323658 in nova "Nova resize/restart results in guest ending up in inconsistent state with Neutron" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/132365814:10
salv-orlando* working with14:10
dansmithsalv-orlando: thanks for that correction :)14:10
mesterysalv-orlando: Ack, thanks!14:10
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mesteryAny other bugs the team should be aware of as we near RC1?14:12
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mesteryOK, moving on then.14:12
mestery#topic Incubator Update14:12
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mesterymarkmcclain: Hi!14:12
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markmcclainso we've tabled the incubator for this cycle14:13
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markmcclainafter discussions with the -infra team and the principals in LBaaS14:13
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markmcclainwe've created a feature branch to unblock that team14:13
mestery#info Incubator tabled for Juno cycle,14:14
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markmcclain#link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/neutron/tree/?h=feature%2Flbaasv214:14
mestery#info Feature branch created to unlock LBaaS team and move that work forward14:14
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mesterymarkmcclain: Nice work!14:14
markmcclainwe've started to merge some of the backlog of lbaasv2 patches14:14
mesteryblogan sbalukoff sballe rm_work: ^^^^14:14
markmcclainand I'll be working with the proposers to finish retargeting the patches for the new branch14:14
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markmcclainmestery: you forgot dougwig14:15
mesterymarkmcclain: I guess some of these may need rebases perhaps.14:15
* mestery never forgets dougwig :)14:15
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markmcclainhaha.. yes a few will need rebasing14:15
rkukuramarkmcclain: Is there a wiki or anything on how feature branches are used in neutron? In particular, are the neutron cores in the loop?14:15
amotokihow does the branch work? it might be discussed last week.... how is it reviewed?14:15
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markmcclainand some will need reviews because it would be good to get some eyeballs on them since they it looks like they got ignored due to the blockage14:16
markmcclainrkukura: so feature branches work just like a normal review cycle for now14:16
mesterymarkmcclain: I think we merged the initial LBaaS API patch from blogan into the feature branch last night though, which is ag ood start.14:16
markmcclainbut the branch is not frozen14:16
markmcclainbecause the earliest it would merge is kilo14:16
amotokiI see.14:16
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salv-orlandomarkmcclain: do we have a custom core team for each feature branch?14:17
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markmcclainsalv-orlando: at this time the groups that have +2/A is the core team14:17
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markmcclainI wanted to unblock first and then discuss if we wanted the set of approvers to be different14:17
ihrachyshkainformal interest groups should be enough14:17
salv-orlandomarkmcclain: I would consider the idea of giving at least +2 (not sure about +A) to subject matter experts of each particular branch. Is that being considered?14:18
salv-orlandomarkmcclain: ok sorry I did not read your last post14:18
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markmcclainsalv-orlando: yes… I think there are few people on the short list but I think that requires a discussion14:18
markmcclainand I was hoping to unblock first14:18
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markmcclainsince many cores have avoided reviewing due to the block14:18
mestery+1 to the unblocking first, thanks for taking care of this with infra markmcclain.14:19
markmcclainhappy to help14:19
amotokisounds very reasonable :-)14:19
banixare there plans for other feature branches?14:19
markmcclainbanix: at this time no, but I do want to discuss this in paris :)14:19
mesterydougwig: Can you help coordinate reviews of the remaining LBaaS patches for the feature branch?14:20
rkukuramarkmcclain, mestery: Where is the feature branch process documented. This is the first I’ve heard that its possible to have separate cores for feature branches.14:20
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-amotoki- perhaps banix is thinking about GBP14:20
markmcclainrkukura: it is something that Swift has used before14:20
dougwigmestery: yes, I'll get them rolling today14:20
mesterydougwig: Thanks!14:20
markmcclainI don't want to go crazy with branches yet because they don't solve all problems14:21
rkukuramarkmcclain: That is not very helpful tome14:21
salv-orlandorkukura: I made this statement just because I was thinking that in a way is similar to stable branches and gerrit could handle it in the same way14:21
markmcclainrkukura: it distros are not likely to release from them14:21
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salv-orlandobut there is no decision, proposal, or even whatsoever thing being discussed atm14:21
markmcclainsalv-orlando: right… stay tuned on that side of it14:21
mesteryLike markmcclain said, this was done to unblock the LBaaS folks so they can continue working.14:22
mesteryAnd I think there will be some discussions on this in Paris as well.14:22
amotokiand we can discuss when we merge feature branches to master in Paris..14:22
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mesteryamotoki: ++14:22
markmcclainamotoki: yes.. it is a must for us to discuss14:23
salv-orlandofeature branches are rather useful whenever you have an effort which will require several commits from several developers, but should not go in the main repo until all of them are complete. in a way, it gives you “all or none”14:23
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dougwigAnd less than a cycle from usefulness14:24
mesterysalv-orlando: In addition, it allows for the retention of the git history in an easy manner, which infra is happy about.14:24
marunMy understanding is that feature branches should be short-lived.14:24
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mesterymarun: Yes14:24
marunI think a full cycle is too long, frankly.14:24
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marunBut yes, let's discuss in paris.14:24
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mesteryThanks for the updates markmcclain, moving on then.14:25
mestery#topic Kilo Design Summit14:25
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banixby tabling the incubator for this cycle, it means, it won’t be done in this cycle? is it being considered for next cycle? out of question for now?14:25
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markmcclainbanix: I think that it is one the table for kilo14:26
banixok thanks14:26
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mesteryAnymore questions on the incubator or feature branches before we move on?14:26
salv-orlandomarkmcclain: do you mean that the incubator will be ready by the end of kilo? or that contributors will be able to commit in it during kilo?14:26
salv-orlandojust for the sake of pedantry14:26
salv-orlandobecause we all love being pedant14:27
* mestery gets out his yak shaver14:27
markmcclainsalv-orlando: it is something we want as a team we can discuss what goes in and also weighing the pros/cons vs using feature branches or separate project all three options have tradeoffs14:27
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mesteryIt really depends on what is being proposed salv-orlando, to be even more pedant.14:27
salv-orlandoI think you answered the question - and the answer is that no committment can yet be made14:28
salv-orlandomostly because we don’t exactly know yet what we will be committing too14:28
mesterysalv-orlando: Precisely.14:29
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mesteryIt depends on what we commit to as a team for Kilo to some extent.14:29
salv-orlandomestery: thanks I had my fix of pedantry for today. Now I can be constructive again.14:29
* mestery waits for a bit to let anymore pedantry fall out before moving on.14:30
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mestery#topic Kilo Design Summit14:30
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mesterySo, a reminder from last week, session proposals are now different for the Kilo Summit this time.14:30
mestery#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-neutron-summit-topics14:31
mesteryWe as a team are collecting ideas on the etherpad ^^^14:31
mesteryAnd we will collectively setup time for discussions during our 2 allotted days.14:31
mesteryWe already have enough work on that page to last us for probably 6 cycles or so.14:31
dougwigwhat is the deadline for giving input there?14:31
mesteryWhich is to say, there is a lot to do.14:31
mesterydougwig: No known deadline yet, but we'll be firming this up over the next 3 weeks or so.14:32
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* salv-orlando wishes there will be work in there for about 60 cycles. This way I’d know what to do until retirement.14:32
mesteryI'm hoping that with the change in format we can get people signed up for the big items here.14:32
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mesteryAnd we can utilize the mid-cycle meeting to drill down on things.14:32
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mesteryAny other questions on the Kilo Design Summit?14:33
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mesteryOne more item here then:14:34
mestery#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/046793.html14:34
mesteryttx sent out an email with a proposed schedule for Kilo.14:34
mesteryI encourage folks to have a look at it.14:34
mesteryWe'll have to fit our work items into that schedule in a realistic fashion to ensure success for Neutron in Kilo.14:34
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mestery#topic Parity14:36
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mesteryHi markmcclain!14:36
mesteryDo we haev any loose ends here to wrap at the end of Juno now?14:36
markmcclainso grenade work is on my schedule for today14:36
mesterymarkmcclain: awesome!14:36
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markmcclainother than that I think we'll be finalizing parity work for Kilo14:37
markmcclainalso I've chatted with a few folks who've tested obondarev transition work14:38
markmcclainhoping to get them to doc their results14:38
mesterymarkmcclain: Excellent!14:38
mesterymarkmcclain: We need to chat with mikal around the official wording of nova-network deprecation for Juno.14:38
mesteryI'm hoping we can say that and have it in the rlease notes now.14:38
mesterymarkmcclain: Do you think we can now try to merge this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/105785/14:39
mesteryThis defaults devstack to neutron.14:39
mesteryOr do you want grenade to land first?14:39
markmcclainlet's land grenade14:39
mesteryOK, thanks for the updates markmcclain!14:39
markmcclainand then when kilo opens flip the switch14:39
mesterymarkmcclain: Sounds good.14:39
mestery#info Looking to merge parity work around grenade this week.14:40
mestery#info Will merge patch to default devstack to neutron at the start of Kilo.14:40
* mestery doesn't see emagana around so will skip docs update this week.14:40
mestery#topic Tempest14:40
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mesterymlavalle: Hi there! Do you have a Tempest update this week?14:40
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mlavallemestery: quick update: I've been helping to migrate networking tests to tempest clients (scenario)14:41
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mlavallemestery: I also started a conversation with the ml2 group about some specialized testing  in case of mechnism failures14:41
mesterymlavalle: Excellent!14:42
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mlavallemestery: I have some homework to do for tomowrro's ML2 meeting14:42
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mlavalleand that's all I have for today14:42
mesterymlavalle: Make sure to dot your 'i's and cross your 't's, rkukura doesn't grade on a curve. ;)14:42
mesteryThanks mlavalle!14:42
mestery#topic L314:42
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mesterycarl_baldwin: Hi there!14:42
carl_baldwinmestery: hi14:43
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mlavallemestery: I know, I really fear rkukura 's grading :-)14:43
carl_baldwin#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings#L3_.28carl_baldwin.2914:43
carl_baldwinThe team wiki is up to date.  I wanted to point out that we’re actively working the failure rate in the dvr job.14:43
carl_baldwinThe first bug was mentioned earlier.14:43
mesterycarl_baldwin: Cool!14:44
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carl_baldwinWe’re working on a second race that should get the failure rate back down to nearly 0.14:44
carl_baldwinmestery: That is all I wanted to highlight.14:44
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mesterycarl_baldwin: Thanks!14:45
mesterycarl_baldwin: Can you do me a favor offline and highlight which bugs around DVR are release critical?14:45
mesteryI expect ttx to ask me that today in our 1:1.14:45
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carl_baldwinmestery: yes14:46
mesterycarl_baldwin: Thank you sir!14:46
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mestery#topic IPV614:46
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mesterysc68cal: Hi!14:46
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mesteryIn lieu of Sean, does any other IPV6 team member have any updates or release critical bugs they wanted to highlight for Juno here?14:47
xuhanpmestery, I have one to get more attentions one14:47
mesteryxuhanp: Thanks!14:47
mestery#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/101433/14:48
xuhanpit has been rebased several times so could be great if more cores can check it :-)14:48
mesteryxuhanp: I have marked it RC1 for now.14:48
xuhanpmestery, thanks14:49
mestery#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/133082614:49
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1330826 in neutron "Neutron network:dhcp port is not assigned EUI64 IPv6 address for SLAAC subnet" [High,In progress]14:49
xuhanpthat's all I have. Not sure if other members have other things to bring up14:49
mesteryxuhanp: Thank you!14:49
mestery#topic ML214:49
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mesteryrkukura: Hi!14:49
rkukuramain ML2 activity has been around banix’s work to fix bulk creates to work properly with transactions14:50
rkukuramestery: Is that still OK to merge for Juno?14:51
mestery#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/119386114:51
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1193861 in neutron "ML2 plugin needs to override bulk operations" [Medium,In progress]14:51
mesteryrkukura: That bug ^^^^14:51
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rkukuramestery: right14:51
mesteryrkukura: I think so, though it has a -1 from kevinbenton at the moment I see.14:52
mesterybanix: Are you planning to iterate that patch today yet?14:52
banixmestery: yes will do14:52
rkukuraIt has seemed very close to merging, but then there was some suggestion of different approaches, etc.14:52
mesterybanix: OK, thanks,.14:52
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rkukurabanix: Are you sticking with the current approach?14:52
amotokiit seems we already have a consensus on the direction14:52
mesteryamotoki rkukura: Can you guys work together to try and merge this assuming the approach looks ok?14:53
rkukuramestery: yes14:53
amotokimestery: sure14:53
banixThe only issue seems to be refactoring the code to use bulk for non bulk creates as well14:53
mesteryCool, thanks!14:53
rkukuraanything else on ML2?14:53
mestery#info amotoki and rkukura to work together to merge the bulk operations patch from banix before RC114:53
banixi was thinking we may want to leave that out for now and not touch the non bulk ops14:53
banixok thanks14:53
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mestery#topic Horizon14:54
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mesteryamotoki: I see you added a note here.14:54
amotokialmost all work are merged and i will request to review L3-HA support in the horizon meeting two hours after.14:54
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mesteryamotoki: Awesome!14:55
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mestery#topic Open Discussion14:55
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kevinbenton#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/125514214:55
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1255142 in neutron "unable to get router's external IP when non admin (blocker for VPNaaS)" [Medium,In progress]14:55
kevinbentondo we care to get a fix for that into Juno?14:55
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kevinbentonsalv-orlando had concerns about another API attribute for router that it required14:56
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mesterykevinbenton: I haven't reviewed this one yet, so I'll defer to salv-orlando's comments until I have.14:57
salv-orlandokevinbenton: It’s been a long time now, I don’t remember. I must view the patch again14:57
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kevinbentonsalv-orlando: so the patch i had is overkill because it allows R/W to address other use cases, but VPNaaS only requires read14:57
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kevinbentonI can propose a read-only one to fix this use case14:58
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amotokianother topic on VPNaas, I today put -2 on VPNaaS peer_id validation change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116835/  Input from VPNaaS team would be appreicated.14:58
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salv-orlandokevinbenton: sounds good to me.14:59
mestery#info Need VPNaaS team to provide input on this review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/116835/14:59
amotokiI think no discussion is needed here.14:59
mesteryOK, we're at time now.14:59
beaglesI have something. Neutron/nova interaction is on the neutron/kilo ether pad14:59
mesterybeagles: Yes14:59
mesteryWe would ideally have this in a cross-project timeslot.14:59
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mesteryAnd have the right people there to really make progress on that. Make sense?14:59
markmcclainbeagles: I've chatted some nova cores about it too14:59
beaglesI want to look into this. I was discussing refactoring pre juno14:59
mesterybeagles: Can we add an item for Monday's Neutron meeting agenda perhaps?15:00
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mesterybeagles: Tahnks! Please add it in "Team Discussion Topics" area and we'll allocate time. Thank you!15:00
mesteryOK, thanks for attending this week everyone!15:00
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mesteryJuno is almost here, only a little bit of time left.15:00
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mesteryWe'll see you all on the ML and in-channel!15:00
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n0ano#startmeeting gantt15:01
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openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
obondarevbye all15:01
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n0anoanyone here to talk about the scheduler?15:01
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n0anogreat, the day I need to leave after 30 min. and everyone's here :-)15:02
n0anolet's get started15:02
n0ano#topic forklift status15:02
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n0anoso bauzas , anything to report?15:02
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bauzasn0ano: well, I'm working on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119807/15:02
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bauzasn0ano: that one will be a big patch15:03
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bauzasjaypipes: I'm about fixing the last unittests by today or tomorrow15:03
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bauzasso people can review it15:03
bauzasthe main problem will be about the level of changes15:03
bauzaswe will probably have to see how to split it15:04
n0anojust let us know when it's ready and we'll review15:04
bauzasPaulMurray: you there ?15:04
* jaypipes still owes everyone the summary breakdown of all the required refactoring pieces15:04
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* n0ano didn't want to ping jaypipes too strongly but yes, we're waiting15:04
bauzasjaypipes: agreed15:04
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bauzasjaypipes: just lemme know when the etherpad is there, so I can poke it around15:05
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bauzasquick summary, we're atm working on fixing the ComputeNode object for providing it to the scheduler15:05
bauzasPaulMurray: do you know when you'll have a chance to work on adding the missing field ?15:06
PaulMurraybauzas, I will do some work in the coming days, i.e. this week15:07
bauzasPaulMurray: k cool15:07
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bauzasso, yep, nothing sexy yet15:07
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n0anonot at all, isolating the computenode is important15:07
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n0anoso, in summary15:08
n0ano#action bauzas to cmplet changes set 11980715:08
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n0ano#action jaypipes to provide write up of refactoring steps15:08
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bauzasat least, we need to discuss on the claim move15:09
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n0anobauzas, I was expecting that after jaypipes writeup15:10
bauzasthe first 2 steps (ie. providing ComputeNode to scheduler.update_resource_stats and Request object to select_destinations) seem to be validated15:10
bauzask, I think I'm done with that topic15:10
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n0anoyeah, hoping this topic will be a little livelier next week15:11
bauzasjaypipes: your help, as core, will be helpful to see how we can split https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119807/15:11
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n0anomoving on15:12
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n0ano#topic opens15:12
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bauzasjaypipes: n0ano: also I'll remove the -W tag once this patch is fixed15:12
n0anoanything new anyone wants to discuss today?15:12
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n0anoI'm hearing crickets, I hope I didn't scare anyone off today :-)15:13
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bauzaswe were discussing about Summit pods last week15:14
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bauzasno progress so far AFAIK15:14
n0anoI think that's still under discussion on the ML, I think gantt will be well represented no matter what the form of the talks wind up being15:15
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n0anowell, depending uon progress on the action items we should have a fuller agenda next week, in the mean time15:16
n0anoI'll thank everyone and we'll talk again later15:16
bauzasfor sure15:16
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primeministerp#start-meeting hyper-v16:01
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primeministerp#start-meeting hyper-v16:01
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primeministerpalexpilotti: hey there16:01
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primeministerpVijayTripathi: hi vijay16:02
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alexpilottiHey there16:02
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primeministerpalexpilotti: so let's get into it16:03
primeministerpdon't know if the meeting bot is working proper16:03
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primeministerplet's discuss the blueprint for k16:03
alexpilottiTopic? :)16:03
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primeministerp#topic k blutprints16:03
primeministerp#topic k blueprints16:03
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alexpilottiHmmm does not seem like working16:04
VijayTripathiHey Peter16:04
VijayTripathiHey everyone16:04
primeministerpit's not16:04
alexpilottiHey VijayTripathi16:04
primeministerplet's just continue16:04
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alexpilottiOki, in short:16:04
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primeministerpguess if you have a total of what got pushed16:05
alexpilottiAll bps that we proposed for Juno and didn't get accepted will be resubmitted now16:05
primeministerpas expected...16:05
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alexpilottiAll bps approved in Juno merged16:05
alexpilottiSo things are on track16:06
alexpilottiHighlights will be:16:06
alexpilottiSMB support in nova16:06
alexpilotti(Cinder side merged this cycle)16:06
alexpilottiX509 support in metadata16:07
alexpilottiRemoteFX support16:07
alexpilottiNew bps might include:16:07
primeministerpman I thought that went in already16:07
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alexpilottiNUMA support16:07
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primeministerpk more to be discussed at the summit also I presume.16:08
alexpilottiAnd interactive console (if it merges now for libvirt)16:08
alexpilottiYeah of course16:08
primeministerpdid the cloudbaseinit bits make get another +2 yet?16:08
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alexpilottiMissing one last one16:09
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primeministerpany other new bps?16:09
alexpilottiGonna ping some core this week if it doesn't get approved16:09
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alexpilottiUseless to propose more, as Nova core team won't have review bandwidth16:10
alexpilottiIf the plan works16:10
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alexpilottiWe'll be out of tree in L16:11
alexpilottiAnd then we'll handle review bandwidth as well16:11
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primeministerpthat will be an achievement16:11
alexpilottiAka lots of bps :-)16:12
primeministerpso on the bugfix side of things...16:12
alexpilottiThe release CI worked amazingly well in catching regressions16:12
alexpilottiI'm very pleased with the results16:13
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alexpilottiAll relevant bugs were fixed16:13
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primeministerpand are we on track w/ the "packaging" for paris?16:14
alexpilottiAnd we are doing backports as well16:14
alexpilottiYep, all good16:14
primeministerpeven better16:14
primeministerpk then16:14
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primeministerpVijayTripathi: on the pip issue from this morning16:14
primeministerpVijayTripathi: is it due to a dependancy we weren't tracking w/ puppet?16:15
alexpilottiAbout backporting, Claudiub is getting voted for +2 rights on stable16:15
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primeministerpalexpilotti: awesome!16:15
alexpilottiSee stable ML thread16:15
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primeministerpthinkg VijayTripathi is sleeping16:16
alexpilottiGuys, I'm typing this while traveling, need to disconnect for 5'16:16
primeministerpon that note i'll follow up w/ him16:16
primeministerpalexpilotti: I need to also16:16
primeministerplet's end it here16:16
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primeministerpwe'll catch up more later16:16
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VijayTripathithat's correct16:20
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VijayTripathidep was getting installed automatically as part of oslo.config16:21
VijayTripathiwe'll take care of it through puppet16:21
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morganfainbergdolphm, ayoung, bknudson, dstanek, jamielennox, morganfainberg, stevemar, gyee, henrynash, topol, marekd, lbragstad, joesavak, shardy, fabiog, nkinder, lloydm, shrekuma, ksavich, hrybacki, rharwood, grantbow, vdreamarkitex, raildo, rodrigods, x-eye https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting17:58
morganfainbergit's that time of week again!17:59
ayoungOyez oyez17:59
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morganfainberg#startmeeting Keystone18:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep 23 18:00:39 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is morganfainberg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'keystone'18:00
morganfainberg#topic Juno RC118:00
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morganfainberg#link https://launchpad.net/keystone/+milestone/juno-rc118:00
morganfainbergwe're really close!18:01
morganfainbergThere are a couple things gating, if all goes well they'll land today, then we can get RC cut.18:01
ayoungmorganfainberg, those two memcached bugs are fixed by the reivew I just +Aed?18:01
morganfainbergayoung, yep18:01
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dstanekmorganfainberg: that config option is back now?18:02
ayoung#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119452/18:02
morganfainbergdstanek, which one?18:02
dstanekmorganfainberg: socket_timeout maybe?18:02
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morganfainbergwasn't lost in keystone server18:02
morganfainbergthe middleware one needs it re-added18:02
dstanekmorganfainberg: ah ok18:02
dstanekis it back in middleware then?18:02
morganfainbergdstanek, it will be when I repost it ;)18:03
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dstanekmorganfainberg: excellent :-)18:03
morganfainbergor when YorikSar does (whichever of us gets to it first today)18:03
morganfainberg#link https://gist.github.com/dolph/651c6a1748f69637abd018:03
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morganfainbergthose are the outstanding reviews for blocking keystone / middleware / client18:03
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morganfainbergas you might notice, client has none. and 0.11.1 is released!18:04
stevemaryay for client18:04
ayounghttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/106838/  should have been in there18:04
bknudsonbarely broken anything this time.18:04
dstaneki'm generally very happy with the pool now that it is based on Queue and not the default - would love to get more eyes on it still18:04
morganfainbergas soon as middleware has those reviews land we'll cut the middleware release.18:04
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morganfainberg#topic keystonemiddleware release18:04
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morganfainbergbknudson, anything to add?18:05
bknudsonmorganfainberg: nope, just wondering if it was planned18:05
morganfainbergbknudson, as soon as we can be done fighting with the gate.18:05
morganfainbergbknudson, so... today? tomororw? very soon™18:05
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morganfainberg#topic auth_token support identity v3 for service user auth18:05
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morganfainbergbknudson, o/ again :)18:06
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bknudsonI get asked a lot about using domains for service users18:06
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gyeebknudson, yes18:06
bknudsonespecially since we've got the per-domain backend18:06
bknudsonbut that wouldn't work because you can't set the domain for auth_token18:06
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bknudsonso I proposed a change to support it...18:06
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bknudson#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123011/18:07
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bknudsonand here's the devstack change to make it easy to configure it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/123012/18:07
bknudsonalso, I changed devstack to put all the auth token configuration in one place (in lib/keystone)18:07
gyeebknudson, no18:07
gyeeservice user auth should be done by plugin18:08
gyeeso those should be registered by password auth plugin18:08
bknudsongyee: I know it should be... wasn't sure how to do it though18:08
gyeedidn't jamielennox have a patch to make auth_token middleware support auth plugin?18:08
gyeebknudson, configure a plugin class18:08
gyeethen dynamically local that class and register the params18:09
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bknudsonthis looks like it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115857/18:09
bknudsonI'll take a look at that one instead18:09
gyeeclose, but that patch is not quite doing it right18:10
bknudsongyee: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115857/ isn't right either?18:10
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gyeethe plugin should register whatever params it need18:10
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bknudsonalright... let me mark mine wip and take a look at jamie's18:11
bknudsonwe can take this discussion to gerrit18:12
gyeewhole point of supporting auth plugin is to allow different auth mechanisms18:12
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bknudsoncan we have it pick the auth plugin from the options?18:13
bknudsonand have all options for all auth plugin options registered?18:13
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gyeebknudson, right18:14
ayounglets get bknudson 's chang in, and then debate jamies18:14
ayoungI think jamies goes further, but needs some of what is in bknudson 's anyway18:14
gyeeayoung, that's fine, we can do the step approach18:14
gyeeif we truly support auth plugin, then do this right18:14
bknudsonI took off the wip if we're willing to take this step (which is just using v3 password auth instead of v2)18:14
ayoungyes, lets18:15
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morganfainberg#topic Bug Triage18:16
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morganfainbergOk, so the goal is to get all bugs out of new state for Keystone, Keystoneclient and Middleware18:17
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morganfainbergwhen you triage the bugs, make sure you get the priority and the status set.  Once we have the "new" bug list under control I'm planning on firing up a bot that reports new-untriaged bugs once every 2h to the -keystone channel18:17
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morganfainbergright now we have ~17 in keystone, 5 in keystoneclient, and 4 in middleware i think18:18
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ayoungyeah, we need a better way to do that url...one sec18:18
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morganfainbergideally we should never go more than a weekend between a bug report and the bug getting triaged.18:19
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ayoung16 new in Keystone18:19
gyeeayoung ftw!18:19
morganfainbergobviously there are a ton of bugs gaining dust in the backlog, i know lbragstad, stevemar, and I have been trying to clean the dead ones up.18:19
morganfainbergbut lets focus on getting everything triaged (that means prioritsed and not "new") and we can plan backlog cleanup a little more "as we have time to"18:20
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rodrigodsare there any bugs  for Juno RC1 needing patches? or it is just matter of reviewing the existent ones?18:20
morganfainbergrodrigods, RC1 is almost complete, should be ready to go today or tomorrow.18:20
stevemari think all the rc1 bugs are completed18:20
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morganfainbergrodrigods, so unless there is a new bug we need to address, (i hope not!) all are addressed18:21
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rodrigodslet's hop not =)18:21
stevemarmorganfainberg, do we want to go through the new bugs now or later in -keystone18:22
morganfainbergstevemar, lets see if we have time when we hit the end of the agenda18:22
morganfainbergwe probably do have time.18:22
morganfainberg#topic Kilo Summit Sessions Discussion18:22
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morganfainberg#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-kilo-summit-sessions18:22
morganfainbergPlease file thoughts in the etherpad! we'll use that to help figure out our sessions for the summit.18:23
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bknudsonLooks like there's plenty of ideas for topics18:23
morganfainbergwe should have 6 or 7 sessions and either a 1/2 or full day meetup18:23
morganfainbergdetails are still being worked out so not set in stone.18:23
bknudsonI'd expect it to be hard to get a lot done in a 1/2 day meedup.18:24
morganfainberga lot of the ideas can be consolidated into "like" sessions, and anything that is a "yes we should do it" will not be it's own session but maybe a topic we talk about in the hall/pod/meetup18:24
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bknudsontake 1/2 day to figure out what to cover.18:24
gyeeare we planning an unconference session in Amsterdam?18:24
morganfainbergbknudson, i think the meetup is meant to be like the pod sessions last time18:24
morganfainbergin atl18:24
raildomorganfainberg, Apparently, when I delete a project in Keystone, The Nova is not notified of this change, so it can not delete their instances and update their quotas.18:25
raildoI saw that there is a notification code in Keystone but I do not know if the problem is that Nova non consumes their notification.18:25
raildoDo you know tell me if this really is a problem, and if it would be possible (or necessary) a design session to discuss how to resolve this?18:25
morganfainbergraildo, notifications need to be turned on and nova needs to listen for them.18:25
dstanekraildo: sounds more like a bug than a design session18:25
morganfainbergraildo, if it isn't working as intended, it is likely a bug18:25
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raildodstanek, OK18:26
gyeesame goes with Swift account deletion18:26
bknudsonand neutron networks18:26
morganfainberggyee, and barbican secrets? items? whatevet they call them18:26
gyeeyes, yes, and yes18:26
raildoand the another thing is I'm proposing a design session about hierarchical projects in cross projects, because we are implementing hierarchical projects in Horizon and we are supporting an implementation in Nova about hierarchical quotas.18:26
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raildo#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-crossproject-summit-topics18:27
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raildodstanek, morganfainberg This is the right place to suggest this session? How can I get the Keystone folks "support" to discuss this?18:27
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stevemarraildo, letting us know here was a good start18:27
morganfainbergraildo, this and the etherpad are absolutely the right place to start talking about it :)18:27
raildogreat :)18:28
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vdreamarkitexQuestion: aren't projects being identified as tenants?18:28
vdreamarkitex[Forgive the noob]18:28
ayoungvdreamarkitex, yep18:28
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gyeeonly on Tuesdays though18:29
vdreamarkitexthanks for the clarification.18:29
ayoungvdreamarkitex, tenants and projects have been used interchangably.  We are trying to standardized on the term projects18:29
stevemarvdreamarkitex, they are, forgive the name multitenancy - multiprojectcy actually sounded worse18:29
* ayoung mutters18:29
rodrigodsanother great discussion (or not) would be about changing domain_id to parent_project_id =)18:29
vdreamarkitexrotfl :-)18:29
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ayoungrodrigods, you mean, making there be no distinction between projects and domains?  Making domains top level projects?18:30
stevemarrodrigods, i think you would make ayoung happy18:30
* ayoung never happy18:30
* ayoung grump18:30
rodrigodsayoung, ++18:30
morganfainbergayoung, lies, you were happy for a moment when we gated on apache. only a moment though18:31
* ayoung admits did crack smile then18:31
raildothis would be a hot discussion! hahaha18:31
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stevemarrodrigods, add it to the etherpad, we can discuss at the summit18:31
bknudsonI thought that was discussed at the last summit -- merging domains and projects18:32
morganfainbergbknudson, it was18:32
stevemarthe keystone etherpad18:32
morganfainbergbknudson, and i thnk the one before it too18:32
rodrigodsstevemar, will add and let raildo do the honors =)18:32
lbragstad#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-kilo-summit-sessions18:32
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morganfainberggyee, #veto18:32
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morganfainbergthat one is worse than multiprojectcy18:33
raildorodrigods, ++18:33
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c0okieHi there18:33
morganfainberganything else on summit discussions?18:33
ayoungmorganfainberg, lets just say that there is too much and leave it at that18:34
morganfainberg#topic Open Discussion18:34
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morganfainbergAnything else before we head on to bug triaging and the bug report18:34
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ayoungPTL elections are open.  dolphm is not running, morganfainberg is running. If you want to run, throw your name in the hat now18:34
c0okie(Sorry I'm french so I don't understand hard sentences :/)18:34
ayoungand may god have mercy on your soul.....18:34
henrynash(henry joined….apologies for being late)18:34
morganfainberghenrynash, welcome.18:35
morganfainbergc0okie no worries. and welcome18:35
* ayoung not running. 18:35
* ayoung running in opposite direction18:35
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c0okieThank you morganfainberg :)18:36
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* dstanek goes to nominate ayoung for fun18:36
henrynashyes, ayoung for president18:36
morganfainberg#topic Bug Triage / Weekly Bug Report18:36
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henrynashoh, sorry, not that election18:36
morganfainbergstevemar, o/18:36
morganfainbergor lbragstad o/18:36
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lbragstad#link http://keystone-weekly-bug-report.tempusfrangit.org/weekly-bug-reports/keystone-weekly-bug-report.html18:36
lbragstadweekly report is looking good, shortest it's been in weeks18:37
ayoungI will take the Sherman approach18:37
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lbragstadso thanks to everyone for stepping up the bug triage18:37
bknudson"Spelling error in keystone/common/utils.py" looks pretty bad18:37
stevemarbknudson, sev 1 right there18:37
bknudsonI don't think we need bugs for spelling errors.18:37
henrynashbknudson: yes, I know …we’ll have to hold up Juno I think18:37
ayoung"If drafted, I will not run; if nominated, I will not accept; if elected, I will not serve."18:37
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c0okieWhat's the subject of this discussion ? :x18:38
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ayoungc0okie, this is a keystone team weekly meeting18:38
stevemarlbragstad, what's the criteria used to filter the bugs?18:38
bknudsonthe bug about "glance exploding on config parsing" was an odd one...18:38
c0okieOkay thanks18:38
morganfainbergbknudson, agreed.18:38
lbragstadstevemar: I have a script that scrubs launchpad for bugs every 15  minutes18:38
bknudsonshort of it is that glance would fail in grenade due to running with a really old oslo.config18:38
bknudsonso it wasn't what you might have expected.18:39
lbragstadand pulls the latest bugs that are open18:39
lbragstadstevemar:  or in 'New', 'Confirmed', 'Triaged', 'In Progress' states18:40
stevemarhere are the links i use for open bugs, the URLs are too long for irc: https://gist.github.com/stevemart/f4ccc624a54e18032a3a18:40
morganfainberghere is a current list of bugs that are in "new" state. https://gist.github.com/morganfainberg/7baeb6c97e75b7a2adb518:41
henrynashbknudson: (fyi, the bug reports on spelling mistakes were raised to create some (really) low hanging fruit for first contributors to learn the ropes)18:41
morganfainbergstevemar, hehe18:41
lbragstadstevemar: nice18:41
* lbragstad bookmarks18:41
stevemarmorganfainberg, HA18:41
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stevemarso https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1368097 looks interesting18:42
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1368097 in keystone "UnicodeDecodeError using ldap backend" [Low,New]18:42
morganfainberglbragstad, stevemar, i'll create an auto-updating gist (unless one of you wants to) that has the untriaged bugs. will run it the same way we run the bot once things are sufficiently "not" spammy"18:42
bknudsonhenrynash: ok... Just want people to know I'm not going to -1 because there's no bug for a spelling fix.18:42
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dstanekstevemar: that's the one i'm looking at now :-)18:42
lbragstadmorganfainberg: cool18:42
henrynashbknudson: agreed with that too18:42
ayounghey, are we good with deprecating the CLI altogether and going with the common client?18:42
c0okieI'm lost...18:42
ayoungI think there are now some things we can only do with common18:42
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dstaneki think their example is flawed18:43
bknudsonayoung: keystone CLI only supports v2, so there's lots of things you can't do18:43
bknudsoncreate groups18:43
morganfainbergayoung, i don't think we can deprecate the CLI *yet*. but i'd defer that convo to jamielennox and stevemar.18:43
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stevemarayoung, i'd love for that to happen, but not just yet18:43
morganfainbergthe only reason is we need to maintain compatibility for those folks who are on older deployments but use modern clients18:43
bknudsonalso, I think it's a wider question if unified CLI is considered stable yet.18:43
lbragstadhenrynash: I think a 'low-hanging-fruit' tag got started too, there might be some good stuff in there too for new devs18:43
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henrynashlbragstad: yep, agreed18:44
bknudsonI think the keystone CLI is confusing people. They'll keep using it and complaining that it doesn't support some operation until it goes away18:44
ayoungmorganfainberg, deprecation should be acceptable so long as there is nothing you can do only with the keystone cli.18:44
ayoungLet me take that as a todo18:44
morganfainbergayoung, ++18:44
henrynashbknudson: ++18:44
bknudsonfirst, we should take the todo to remove all references to keystone in our docs.18:44
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stevemarbknudson, getting there, i'm adding a function test jobs now to make sure we don't regress - but we're super short of people power18:44
bknudsonfirst, our own docs18:44
stevemarbknudson, +100 on that one18:45
bknudsonthen, the general keystone docs.18:45
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henrynashstevemar: what do we need to do….can I help?18:45
stevemari think https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1369401 can be closed as won't fix also, it's v2 related18:45
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1369401 in keystone "Multiple services with same name and type" [Undecided,New]18:45
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lbragstadjsonschema validation went in for v3 only18:46
morganfainbergstevemar, the reporter says we can mark it wont fix18:46
bknudsonlbragstad: we should look at integrating json schema and json home.18:47
bknudsonmaybe there's a way to publish the json schema through the json home doc.18:47
lbragstadbknudson: that's an idea18:47
stevemarhenrynash, review the current patches, see for yourself if anything *keystone* related is missing. I think a vote of confidence from more cores is what dtroyer is looking for to mark it 1.018:47
bknudsonanother idea for the summit18:47
lbragstadbknudson: is someone else doing that?18:47
henrynashstevemar: link?18:47
bknudsonlbragstad: I think nova is looking at publishing their json schema18:47
bknudsonlbragstad: but they don't have json home18:47
stevemarmorganfainberg, marking it appropriately!18:47
morganfainbergstevemar, already done18:48
lbragstadbknudson: gotcha18:48
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dstanekdoes anyone test on DB2? i have no idea how to deal with https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/134079318:48
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1340793 in cinder "DB2 deadlock error not detected" [High,Confirmed]18:48
ayoungdstanek, bknudson does18:48
ayoungas does topol18:48
stevemarhenrynash, open patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:+openstack/python-openstackclient,n,z look for `keystone auth plugins` and `functional tests`18:48
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lbragstadbknudson: publishing there v3 extension schemas/18:49
ayoungdstanek, OTOH, lbragstad, does not test on DB2 anymore18:49
morganfainbergayoung, this looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1211586 a spec? is it a bug?18:49
bknudsondstanek: since we use oslo.db this should be handled in oslo.db.18:49
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1211586 in keystone "Disable user lists without a filter" [Wishlist,New]18:49
morganfainberghappy to mark it confirmed if we need it as a bug for tracking.18:49
stevemargotta bail a bit early today... i'll read this when i get back18:49
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dstanekbknudson: can it be marked as invalid for keystone then?18:50
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ayoungmorganfainberg, it is a wishlist item...I think that is the appropriate starting place...if the fix got too big, then, yeah , a spec18:50
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morganfainbergok will mark as confirme18:50
ayoungit really is just to keep people from hanging themselse against slower keystones with large userlists18:50
bknudsondstanek: yes, I'll mark it invalid for keystone18:51
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ayoungugh,  typing openstack with no params drops you into a shell18:51
mordredayoung: I almost never want that, btw18:52
ayoungmordred, you mean sometimes you do?  Like, when?18:52
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mordredayoung: never18:53
clarkbis openstack an alias for bash now?18:53
topolbknudson perhaps tests with DB2?18:53
mordredneutron does the same thing18:54
bknudsontopol: yes, I can run with db2 pretty easily18:54
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ayoungugh. -h doesn't even list the commands, just all of the --os-* flags18:54
morganfainberglbragstad, this looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1370022 a wishlist/low since there is a "work around" in the bug18:54
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1370022 in keystone "Keystone cannot cope with being behind an SSL terminator for version list" [Undecided,New]18:54
ayoungCould not load EntryPoint.parse('aggregate_add_host = openstackclient.compute.v2.aggregate:AddAggregateHost')18:54
morganfainberglbragstad, more of an enhancement to make it more friendly (something worht considering for Kilo)18:54
bknudsondstanek: I can't update the status on https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1340793 , it just times out18:54
morganfainberglbragstad, thoughts?18:55
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1340793 in cinder "DB2 deadlock error not detected" [High,Confirmed]18:55
morganfainbergbknudson, yay LP18:55
morganfainbergbknudson, trying to set as invalid?18:55
lbragstadmorganfainberg: yeah, that makes sense18:55
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bknudsonmorganfainberg: I tried invalid a few times and also fix released since we've got the change in oslo18:55
dstanekmorganfainberg: we should be dealing with the header properly, but i can understand not18:56
bknudsonmorganfainberg: oslo-incubator says fix released so we must have picked it up.18:56
morganfainbergbknudson, i just marked it invalid.18:56
bknudsonmorganfainberg: how?18:56
morganfainbergbknudson, LP didn't timeout for me...18:56
morganfainbergbknudson, :P18:56
morganfainbergbknudson, probably dumb luck18:56
* topol morganfainberg mark them ALL invalid :-)18:56
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lbragstad3 minutes left18:57
bknudsonopen a lauchpad bug that launchpad times out.18:57
bknudsonthey probably use bugzilla18:57
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topolbknudson +++18:57
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morganfainbergok we're at time.18:58
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morganfainberglets continue in -keystone18:58
morganfainbergthanks everyone!18:58
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jeblairinfra folks?19:00
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clarkbhi there19:00
ociuhanduhi all19:00
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bswartzI'm double booked but I'm here19:01
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jeblair#startmeeting infra19:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep 23 19:02:04 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jeblair. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'infra'19:02
jeblair#link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting19:02
jeblair#link last meeting http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2014/infra.2014-09-16-19.01.html19:02
VijayTripathiHi all19:02
jeblair#topic  Actions from last meeting19:02
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jeblair     jhesketh rework 109485 to impact only infra jobs19:02
krtaylorhey everybody19:02
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jeblairoh let's just jump to swift logs19:02
jeblair#topic swift logs19:02
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jeblairjhesketh: still working on 109485?19:03
jeblair#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/109485/19:03
jheskethI put it up as a new review, let me dig up the link sorry19:03
jeblair#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift_logs_next_steps19:03
clarkbjhesketh: 122154?19:04
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jheskethclarkb: yep, that's it19:04
jeblair#link reworked 109485 is 122154 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12215419:05
jeblairupdated etherpad19:05
jeblairokay, so that's something we should review soon to unblock this19:05
clarkblooks straighforward too. I will review post meeting19:06
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jeblairanything else on swift-logs?19:06
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jhesketh122159 is also related but not blocking19:07
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jeblair#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/12215919:07
anteayajhesketh: can you add that to the etherpad too?19:07
jheskethOtherwise I think we just want to review how switching over infra logs goes19:08
jeblairsounds good19:08
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jheskethanteaya: yep, I will later :-)19:08
anteayajhesketh: thanks19:08
jeblair#topic  Config repo split19:08
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jeblairso first part of this is this spec: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/puppet-modules.html19:09
jeblairnibalizer: did you start a storyboard story for that?19:09
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pleia2he's puppetconfing today, not sure if he's here (I found corner to do meeting :))19:09
jeblairi don't see one19:09
jeblairthis is pretty much blocked on someone filing a story, and a task for each project so that people can actually get started on it19:10
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jeblairany volunteers to do that?19:10
nibalizeri didn't do that, sorry19:10
nibalizerill do it now19:10
jeblair#action nibalizer file a story with a task for each project for http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/puppet-modules.html19:11
jeblairthe second part of this is http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/config-repo-split.html19:11
jeblairi believe we are actually ready to go on that19:11
jeblairi have a series of puppet changes up19:11
jeblairand anteaya has prepared a strawman project-config repo19:12
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anteayaI think I have the repos in the two stages they need to be in19:12
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jeblair#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:project-config,n,z19:12
anteayaone after the git filter branch and one after the filter branched has been reorganized19:12
fungiassuming changes look good to everyone, do we want to pick a day this week to freeze and do it?19:12
clarkbso that is just needing review?19:12
jeblair#link https://github.com/anteaya/project-config19:12
jeblair#link https://github.com/anteaya/reorganized-project-config-0219:12
anteayaclarkb: I believe yes19:12
mordredjeblair: so sequence is land new anteaya repo, then land config changes, then land change to config to remove stuff?19:13
anteayaand please review the two git repos as well, so I can fix anything that is incorrect19:13
clarkbmordred: with a freeze in the middle19:13
fungifreeze as step #0 i think19:13
mordredwrap that whole thing in "obtain write-lock"19:13
jeblairi think anteaya is anticipating that we would do the reorganization after the project-config import19:13
anteayathat is what I have planned19:14
anteayasince the reorg commit will be big19:14
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anteayaand would prefer to have it done via gerrit19:14
anteayarather than locally19:14
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anteayaopen to opinons19:14
jeblairmordred: so that's: land anteaya new repo, land project-config reorg, land puppet changes, land change to config to remove stuff19:14
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jeblairi think that will work fine19:14
jeblairanteaya: ^19:15
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anteayaI haven't done the config change to remove stuff, but I can19:15
anteayaand that is also a config rename at the same time, is it not?19:15
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anteayaconfig -> system-config19:15
jeblairwe need to create the gate jobs for the project-config repo; that's not done yet,19:15
clarkbthat plan sounds good to me19:16
fungianteaya: depending on your preferences, you may just want to script up the steps to do the delete-stuff change. otherwise it's going to conflict heavily between now and when we freeze19:16
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jeblairthough it might be easier to add the jobs after the repo exists19:16
anteayaI can work on the commands to do the delete stuff change19:16
fungirepo first, then jobs, i think19:16
anteayaand put up a repo for review on github19:16
jeblairanteaya: we do want to do a config -> system-config rename, but it doesn't have to happen at the same time;  we probably need a few more puppet changes for that.19:16
anteayathen offer the patch in the freeze19:16
jeblairso, as far as scheduling goes...19:17
anteayaokay I can do a config delete stuff patch then19:17
jeblairi'm going to be away for 1.5 weeks starting saturday19:17
fungiyeah, i think we're better off planning for a breather between the split and the rename just to shake out oddness19:17
anteayahow about I do up an etherpad of steps19:17
anteayabased on what we have identified19:18
anteayaand then we can go from there19:18
jeblairwhich means we (a) rush it in this week; (b) you do it without me; (c) we do it after i get back (> oct 8)19:18
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anteayawhich do you prefer?19:18
anteayaI don't feel rushed if we do it this week19:18
anteayajust wednesday is bad for me19:18
fungithis week seems reasonable to get the split knocked out, and as long as everyone else isn't also taking vacation i expect we can handle issues which crop up once the split bakes in production while jeblair enjoys a much-deserved vacation19:18
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anteayaI concur with fungi19:19
mordredI'm booked today and tomorrow, but should be available to be helpful thursday and friday19:19
mordredas well as next week19:19
clarkbfungi: ya19:19
anteayathursday or friday is good for me too19:19
fungithursday seems like a good day19:19
clarkbwhy don't we try for thursday then?19:19
pleia2I'm out thursday for a holiday, but you can probably do without me :)19:19
fungii'm open every day this week, and around for the forseeable future until the summit19:19
anteayait will take me about 45 minutes after the freeze to do the filter branch19:19
anteayaso the freeze should be at least 2 hours19:20
fungipleia2: thursday's a holiday?19:20
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mordredI think we can be frozen for the whole day if need be19:20
anteayarosh hashana19:20
anteayaeating and temple19:20
pleia2fungi: rosh hashanah19:20
fungiaha! yes, i totally forgot that was this week19:20
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anteayaso 1900 utc on thursday?19:20
* jhesketh will be around to help where he can 19:21
jeblairhow about we freeze starting at 00:01 utc thursday19:21
anteayaand I will have an etherpad to track set up19:21
jeblair(which is wed evening for most of us)19:21
anteayajeblair: oh I'm fine with that19:21
fungisounds fine by me19:21
clarkbjeblair: sounds good19:21
fungia day-long freeze for config changes should be bearable to the project19:21
mordredif it's not, the project can learn patience19:21
clarkbthen we start the work when people wake up the next "day"19:21
jeblairclarkb: yep19:21
fungii guess we'll remind jhesketh, SergeyLukjanov and me not to approve any config changes starting at 0 hours thursday utc19:22
clarkbshould remind all of us :)19:23
jeblairwhen should we target unfreezing?19:23
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fungi"when it's done?"19:23
jeblairheh, works for me :)19:23
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anteayaI'm for that19:23
fungidone and reasonably seeming to be not-broken19:24
anteayayes to the non-brokenness19:24
jeblair#agreed freeze project config changes 00:01 utc thursday sept 2519:24
fungiparty goes until question marks19:24
jeblair#agreed cutover to project-config repo thursday morning us-time19:24
fungiall invited to attend19:24
jeblairanteaya: that means you can do your work wed night or thurs morning, whichever works better19:25
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anteayaI was just thinking I can have the new repo and repo regorg done my wed night19:25
jeblair#action jeblair send project-config announcement to -dev list19:25
anteayathen if jhesketh wants some fun he can do the jobs patches during the night, his day19:26
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anteayaand the great merging can happen thursday daytime north america time19:26
anteayajhesketh: does that work for you?19:26
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jheskethanteaya: yep, I can help review if you remind me :-)19:26
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anteayajhesketh: thanks19:26
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AJaeger_do you want to merge in some config changes before Thursday?19:27
jeblairanything else on this one?19:27
jeblairAJaeger_: good point, we should try to clear out as much of those as possible today and tomorrow19:27
AJaeger_I mean: Should we clean the queue as much as possible - or not?19:27
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fungiwe probably should, yes19:28
AJaeger_and perhaps ask in your announcement mail to not submit new changes...19:28
pleia2or "don't expect them to be merged until..."19:28
anteayafungi: can you be around wednesday night to merge the repo with manage projects? then we can offer patches to it like the reorg patch19:28
fungieh, just warn that new changes proposed may need reworking or abandoning and reproposing to a different project after the split19:28
pleia2fungi: yeah19:29
jeblairanteaya, fungi: i think we can do that thurs morning19:29
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anteayasince folks won't read it anyway and it will give us something to point to when we tell them that afterward19:29
anteayajeblair: okay19:29
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fungianteaya: jeblair: yeah i think we do that with the other changes in sequence. no need to split them up overnight19:29
anteayafungi: kk19:30
jeblairin fact, you doing the prop wed night; and fungi merging it thurs morning may work out really well timing wise19:30
fungiif we're impatient, there are ways to speed up the patch taking effect when we're working on it19:30
anteayano, just wanting to be efficient is all19:30
anteayanot impatient19:30
jeblair#topic  Nodepool DIB19:31
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fungii meant if we get impatient because it's blocking us merging other changes depending on that existing19:31
jeblairso this is sorta happening :)19:31
anteayafungi: ah yes19:31
clarkbI am hoping that by this afternoon we will have restarted nodepool and have our first image built19:31
jeblairwe ran into an error in production, fixed it and some other things after local testing, and i think we're about ready to try in prod again19:31
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jeblairi still haven't built an image locally, and i'm not sure why; i suspect it may be a disk space issue, but the error output is not helpful :(19:32
fungii can help/do a nodepool restart after this meeting, since i'll mostly just be lurking the tc/project meetings at that point19:32
jeblairat any rate; i don't think it's going to kill production19:32
mordredjeblair: I'd love to learn more about what broke for you19:32
jeblairme too19:32
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clarkbfungi: ya me too. watiing on the logging change to merge though19:33
jeblair2014-09-23 18:31:51,010 INFO nodepool.image.build.devstack-trusty-dib: umount2: Invalid argument19:33
jeblair2014-09-23 18:31:51,093 INFO nodepool.image.build.devstack-trusty-dib: umount: /tmp/image.lyVl2cy4: not mounted19:33
jeblairmordred: that's the end of the dib log for me.  :/19:33
ianwjeblair: that looks like the exit cleanup, real issue will be before that19:33
ianw(seen that a fair bit :)19:34
jeblairianw: ok; i don't see anything error-like immediately before it19:34
mordredyah - it's like devstack - the errors at the end are not the real errors19:35
jeblairlast thing it does is 2014-09-23 18:31:45,092 INFO nodepool.image.build.devstack-trusty-dib: Caching cirros-0.3.0-x86_64-disk.vhd.tgz file from https://github.com/downloads/citrix-openstack/warehouse/cirros-0.3.0-x86_64-disk.vhd.tgz in /home/nodepool/.cache/image-create/source-repositories/cirros_0_3_0_x86_64_disk_vhd_tgz_c610756fad56eab78721f8601c631e88396b6a3119:35
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jeblairit doesn't say it errored, but it doesn't say it completed either19:35
fungior at least they weren't real errors until someone added errorexit19:35
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fungiso maybe dib needs to run under errorexit like devstack does ;)19:35
jeblairbest hypothesis: it ran out of space on that but didn't happen to mention it.  :/19:35
ianwjeblair: i've found important stuff is sometimes missing, have a change out to enable better tracing : https://review.openstack.org/119023 ... getting it merged is a pain though19:36
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jeblairoh no gertty crashed!19:36
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* jeblair files bug19:36
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mordredSpamapS, lifeless: ^^19:37
jeblairanyway, i guess we'll try it in production soon19:37
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clarkbif it is a disk issue we should be fine on the current nodepool server19:37
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clarkbif it isn't then we keep debugging19:37
SpamapSdib should be set -e19:37
SpamapSLike, thats a bug, I'd happily triage that as High priority19:37
jeblair#topic  Jobs on trusty19:38
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jeblairer, do we have any current work going on with this?19:38
clarkbjeblair: pypy switched19:38
fungiyeah, it's slowed a bit but progressing19:38
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fungiwe did move all the pypy jobs to trusty last week, yes19:38
clarkbpy34 is still in progress. the upstream bug for the py34 gc bug has an assignee now19:39
jeblairany reviews need attention?19:39
fungithe main blocker bug for 3.4 is now picked up by barry so presumably new package coming to trusty soon19:39
clarkb#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.4/+bug/136790719:39
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1367907 in python3.4 "Segfault in gc with cyclic trash" [High,In progress]19:39
fungiall of the outstanding reviews at this point are in non-infra projects19:39
fungi#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/py34-transition19:40
fungiis up to date19:40
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jeblair#topic StoryBoard Migration (krotscheck)19:40
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jeblairkrotscheck: is the migration script ready for use?19:41
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jeblairlet's assume so.  :)19:41
jeblairdo we want to move all the infra projects at once?19:42
clarkbI think so19:42
jeblairi lean toward yes19:42
clarkbif we are going to deal with the pain might as well jump into the deep end19:42
clarkbmore opportunities to get through issues too19:42
fungii will go mad switching back and forth constantly otherwise19:42
mordredjeblair: I believe krotscheck said that it quite successfully loads his local instance with tons of data19:42
jeblairand we close all the bug-trackers on launchpad except for openstack-ci, which we will leave open for e-r tracking only19:42
mordredjeblair: we could make an elastic-recheck tracker19:43
mordredand close openstack-ci19:43
jeblairi'm guessing we move existing openstack-ci bugs to openstack-infra/config (soon to be system-config)19:43
fungii agree19:43
jeblairmordred: it's not for bugs in elastic-recheck, it's for "infra bugs" that elastic-recheck sees19:43
krotscheckWas talking with zaneb19:43
krotscheckSO the migration script landed with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122047/19:44
krotscheckI’ve been able to load zuul and storyboard with it.19:44
jeblairisn't storyboard already in storyborad?19:44
krotscheckThere’s a couple of misfiled bugs on launchpad.19:44
jeblair(ooh, there he is again -- that story borat)19:44
mordredjeblair: AAH. gotcha19:45
fungidoes the migration script preserve bug number to identical story number or is there some indirect mapping?19:45
jeblairkrotscheck: oh, what project are they filed against?19:45
krotscheckjeblair: openstack-infra/storyboard19:45
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jeblairkrotscheck: on launchpad19:45
krotscheckfungi: It does not maintain numbers, but it does keep track of an internal cache so duplicates aren’t imported on a failure.19:46
mordredso - two thoughts ...19:46
jeblairkrotscheck: (i'm confused because i think you said you moved storyboard bugs over, but i don't think there should be storyboard bugs in launchpad)19:46
mordreda) maintaining numbers would be nice ... however b) if we do that, we'll need to manage auto-increment-index19:46
fungijust curious how we look up the new story for a known lp bug number19:46
jeblairmordred: i kind of think maintaining numbers is critical for openstack19:46
ttxstoryborat - I see an April's fools in the making19:46
jeblairmaybe not19:46
mordredjeblair: I do too19:46
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mordredbecause there are going to be a ton of patches up that reference the old number19:47
jeblairokay, so what's the story there?19:47
krotscheckjeblair: Lemme go find those19:47
jeblairand feel free to just rtfm me to where this is doc'd19:47
mordredI have a thought in my head of how we can do it19:47
mordredthat I can write up and propose19:47
zaromaybe use a field to map storyboard # to launchpad #?19:47
fungiforeign keys! foreign keys!19:47
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jeblairmordred: okay, maybe we should make sure we know what the whole story is there before we actually import infra19:47
clarkbdoes an autoincrementing index not jump values already present?19:47
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jeblairbecause we're maybe about to do something irreversible19:47
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mordredclarkb: it does - we'll just need to alter the table and set the next value for auto-increment after we do the import19:48
jeblairthere's the additional complication of two imports19:48
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zaroi think i already have patches that reference storyboard #s19:48
mordredbecause we don't want to autoincrement in a space that has numbers we're going to pull19:48
jeblairwe don't want storyboard's new very-high autoincrement (because of the infra import) to start using story numbers that exist in lp and might even be an openstack bug later19:48
reeddo we have a bot that stores quotes? "<jeblair> because we're maybe about to do something irreversible" deserves to be passed to history19:48
jeblairmordred: ++19:48
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mordredwhich is why we set the index19:48
krotscheckmordred: That… worries me, because if we import one project whose last bug is ##, and autoincrement to ##+1, but that’s owned by a different project which is imported later(tm)....19:49
mordredreed: we should have one19:49
clarkbmordred: gotcha19:49
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mordredthis is the thing I keep saying19:49
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mordredwe need to set the autoincrement index19:49
mordredfor all of the above reasons19:49
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mordredwe can do this in one of two ways ...19:49
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krotscheckI remember this discussion in Brussles being ‘well, by the time our normal storyboard autoindex hits the first bug filed for openstack, we’ll be old men.19:50
reedhave the imported bugs keep numbers and manage new bugs with letter-number combo? :)19:50
mordredwe can set it back to what it was before the import - or we can just bump it up to well above the current max19:50
mordredI think I would vote for setting it low19:50
jeblairmordred: yeah, that sounds like it will work19:50
mordredI'd liek to write this up in a sane way and send it out19:50
jeblair(i've never done that, but i take your word it can be done in mysql)19:50
mordredand not try to explain it all here19:50
jeblairmordred: sounds good19:50
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krotscheckI think I know what you mean.19:51
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jeblair#action mordred to write up autoincrement plan for infra bug import19:51
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jeblairanything else on this?19:51
krotscheckWhich project do you want to move first? I want to do test runs on a local instance.19:52
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jeblairkrotscheck: i think we want to move them all at (approximately) the same time19:52
mordredkrotscheck: I'd try test runs on openstack-ci - since that's got the most stuf19:52
jeblairwe should probably rustle up a list of what "all" means :)19:52
mordredjeblair: ++19:52
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jeblairanyone want to take a stab at that?19:53
krotscheckI can handle that.19:53
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jeblair#action krotscheck make list of infra projects in launchpad for krotscheck to use in testing19:53
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jeblairi don't think it's actually that many19:53
krotscheckRight, I’ll ping in the infra channel to get people’s opinions19:53
jeblair++ thanks19:54
jeblairend of topic?19:54
krotscheckit is for me.19:54
jeblair#topic  Publish devstack.org content under infra (anteaya)19:54
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jeblairanteaya: ?19:54
anteayaso at the beginning of Juno we had a meeting agenda item about this and agreed this was something we wanted to do19:55
anteayathen we got bogged down in the devstack.org > foundation domain name change19:55
jeblairoh hey the foundation owns the domain now :)19:55
anteayawhich jbryce has confirmed has happend19:55
anteayayes they do19:55
anteayaso we are off again19:55
anteayawhat do we want to do?19:55
jeblairdid we decide on a home for the content to live?19:55
anteayaif memory serves, we wer at the point of figuring out servers and redirects19:56
anteayawe did not that I recall19:56
jeblairif not, we should ask dtroyer where it should go19:56
anteayabut we wanted to19:56
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jeblaireg, in devstack itself, or in a new "devstack-org" repo19:56
anteayaoh the code is in devstac19:56
jeblairanteaya: yeah, in the gh-pages branch19:56
anteayadtroyer made the source code change in the spring, it lives in devstack/docs19:56
jeblairoh ok19:56
anteayanow where do we want to serve it up?19:57
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jeblairthen yeah, we just need some jobs to publish it to, probably at this point, a vhost on static.o.o ?19:57
anteaya#link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-dev/devstack/tree/docs/source19:57
jeblair(eventually, probably a vhost on publish.o.o, but that's part of the docs publishing spec and work hasn't started on that yet)19:57
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anteayaand fungi I told jbryce you would let him know when we are ready for a domain name record change19:58
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jeblairis it not managed in the usual way?  if so, we should be able to change it.  if not, i'm not interested in doing this.  :)19:58
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fungianteaya: yeah, he'll presumably need to repoint the authoritative dns to rackspace's nameservers once we set up a zone for it19:59
anteayajeblair: ah sorry, I don't know19:59
jeblairit's still pointed at different authoritative servers19:59
fungiassuming it isn't there already19:59
anteayaI don't know what the usual way is19:59
anteayaand jbryce may or may not either20:00
jeblairso yeah, let's say the first step is getting it attached to the openstack account in rackspace cloud so we can manage dns for it20:00
fungiyeah, it's being served by not-rackspace dns servers at the moment20:00
anteayafungi: can you do that then?20:00
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clarkbjeblair: sounds good20:00
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fungisure, #action me bob20:00
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anteayaha ha ha20:00
jeblair#action fungi get devstack.org served by openstack rackspace dns account20:00
fungii'l need to figure out what sequence rackspace wants it to happen in20:00
jeblairthanks everyone, we're at time!20:01
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jheskethThanks all :-)20:01
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anteayajhesketh: so early for you20:01
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jheskethall part of the fun20:01
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jeblairwow, we could have had a whole extra minute20:01
ttxAnyone here for the TC meeting ?20:01
jeblairttx: o/ :)20:02
ttxblame my 4 parallel discussions20:02
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ttxrussellb, markmc, annegentle, mikal, vishy, sdague, dhellmann : around ?20:02
ttxmikal and annegentle said they would pass20:02
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ttx#startmeeting tc20:02
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep 23 20:02:53 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:02
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.20:02
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'tc'20:02
russellbwas reading about wormholes20:02
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vishyrussellb: sounds dangerous20:03
ttxOur agenda for today:20:03
markmcpretty wormhole pictures20:03
ttx#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/TechnicalCommittee20:03
ttx#topic Final pass on extra-atcs before PTL election roll generation20:03
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ttxWe need to do final approvals on those as they will be used for election roll generation in a couple of days20:03
ttxAlso we'll probably need rebases to get them in, but i can take care of that once approval is given20:03
ttx* Add Juno Compute co-authored-by authors to extra-atcs. (https://review.openstack.org/119666)20:04
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ttxAll those are checked as valid, so just waiting for 7 YES20:04
ttx* Adds Documentation co-authors as ATCs. (https://review.openstack.org/119757)20:04
ttxSebastian and Vinny are actually not Foundation members, but we are trying to get that fixed20:04
ttxso feel free to pile up YES there as well20:05
ttxI'll approve if we can straight them up20:05
jeblairwhat will happen if it's not fixed?20:05
russellbmaybe ping TC list once it's fixed?20:05
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ttxI would ask Anne to submit a limited list20:05
russellbhapppy to +1 once that's confirmed ..20:05
ttxok, that will probably be tomorrow once we get another roundtrip with them20:05
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ttxso maybe keep that one out for now20:06
ttx* Adds Telemetry Juno co-authors as ATCs (https://review.openstack.org/119794)20:06
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ttxAll those are checked as valid, so just waiting for 7 YES20:06
ttxThe last two reviews are tooling which actually need some *code* reviews before they can make it in :)20:06
ttx* Script to automate adding extra-atcs (https://review.openstack.org/121730)20:06
ttx* Naive script to verify extra-atc foundation status (https://review.openstack.org/121696)20:06
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ttxok I'll approve the compute one20:07
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anteayaI wonder why these are offered to governance rather than infra/config/tools20:07
russellb"Naive script"20:07
russellbway to sell it!20:07
dhellmannrussellb: under sell, over deliver20:07
jeblairerm.  it should have a license header.  :(20:07
fungii'll note that we'd previously resisted inserting atc-related scripting/tools in the governance repo (which lives in the infra config repo at the moment)20:07
anteayasince our scripts usually need to be updated every election20:08
jeblairfungi: good point, why not move it into an infra code repo?20:08
dhellmannI was trying to include the script for testing the file in the repo where the file lives20:08
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jeblairdhellmann: cross-project testing is not a problem for us20:08
fungii'm fine either in an infra repo or in the governance repo, but they should live together wherever they end up20:08
ttxfungi: where do the election generation tools live ?20:09
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fungifor the moment20:09
fungican be moved as needed of course20:09
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ttx#action ttx to ping TC members to get Docs extra-atcs in once their membership status is fixed20:10
ttxanything else on that topic ?20:10
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ttxI'll take that as a no.20:11
ttx#topic Recommendation to Adopt DCO as CLA20:11
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ttx#link https://review.openstack.org/12026020:11
ttxjeblair: you're up20:11
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jeblairat the july meeting, the board started talking about this20:12
jeblairmostly listening, actually, to presentation20:12
jeblairbut one thing that came up is that there were uncertain this was a real issue for our developer community20:13
jeblairour silence on the subject was actually counter-productive20:13
jeblairwe had chosen not to bring up a resolution before in order to avoid 'spooking' the board20:13
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markmcright, I was explicitly asked to not propose a resolution to the TC in advance of that meeting20:14
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jeblairbut it turns out they just thought that it was a minority point of view, eg, one person.20:14
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ttxAs I said my only concern is to avoid appearing too adversarial (if that's a word), so I wonder if piggybacking on one of Mark Radcliffe's own options and "recommend" it would not be a better approach20:14
jeblairso i think it would be helpful to let them know that this is a problem we would like them to address20:14
markmcheh, slight exaggeration - but certainly some board members questioned how widespread a concern this is20:15
ttxi.e. saying "of the options you get, w"e'd recommend you pick option 5 for this and that reason"20:15
anteayaadversarial is a word20:15
jeblairmarkmc: well, one person on the board suggested it was only one person's concern, but then, that one person is prone to exaggeration ;)20:15
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markmcjeblair, I agree, I think it would be helpful at this point to say the TC have listened, considered and concluded a ... conclusion20:15
jeblairthere were actually a number of -1s on my wording because it was too weasel-wordy20:15
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jeblairi tried to make it very diplomatic in saying that we are not demanding the board do this, but we are requesting they consider it (which is their perogative)20:16
markmcjeblair, that person (if I understand you) suggested that it was purely a Red Hat concern20:16
jeblairmarkmc: yep20:16
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dhellmannwell, clearly that's not true20:16
jeblairbasically, i'm trying to provide the information that we care20:16
jeblairand it is a broad concern20:16
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devanandajeblair: ++20:16
ttxjeblair: technically we could propose a bylaws change. But if we just want them to consider the DCo as the "CLA" (no bylwas change) then yes, it's just for their consideration20:16
jaypipesjeblair: I have no major issues with it other than a wording nit (see inline on patch review)20:17
bswartzjeblair: +120:17
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devanandajeblair: and as I understand it, I think that's better than the TC specifically recommending one approach, at least at this point20:17
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markmcjeblair, I like it, I only haven't +1ed because of the suggested changes20:18
jeblairttx: i think the 'radcliffe option 5' approach would be okay; if we feel that's the better approach, i'm happy to change it20:18
jeblairotherwise, maybe i should repropose fixing all the nits and we go with this?20:18
ttxjeblair: I still think presenting like this would be more efficient: "we got Mark's presentation at the request of the board, see the various options, and recommend we folow 5 because..."20:19
ttxit feels like we are part of the process rather than a new thing20:19
ttxand it makes clear that we stabd united20:19
jeblairya, to be fair, i wrote this before i knew we were getting a presentation :)20:19
jeblairshould we do a quick poll on the two approaches?20:20
ttxit was an opinionated presentation for sure.20:20
ttxbut our pick is ont of the options20:20
ttxso I would exploit that ;)20:20
dhellmannthat makes sense. Is option 5 really our preferred option?20:21
ttxok, let's call the current text "original" and the "recommend an option" approach "option"20:22
ttxdhellmann: I think it's clearly the DCO as CLA approach yes20:22
ttxquick informal poll, which approach do you prefer, original or option20:22
dhellmannok, I do agree it makes sense to propose a specific option from the existing menu, if we can agree on one that *we* like20:22
russellbwith no CCLA, as well?20:22
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ttxwith no CCLA20:23
ttxthat's how I understand it at least. markmc?20:23
russellbbasically, DCO with no ICLA and no CCLA, would be ideal :)20:23
* ttx retrieves the wording20:23
* devananda reviews mark radcliffes presentation, and20:23
devananda"Adopt DCO Procedure for Individual/20:23
devanandaCorporate Contributors (ASL2 as contribution20:23
ttx"Option 5: Adopt DCO Procedure for Individual/Corporate Contributors (ASL2 as contribution agreement)"20:24
mordredjust for the record, I don't need the DCO either, but I support moving to it as our opinion20:24
jeblairttx: ^20:24
devanandattx: heh, thanks. sorry for the bad line wrapping20:24
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mordredso, "DCO with no ICLA and no CCLA" ++20:24
jeblairthat's a quick copy/paste from the slide deck20:24
markmcthere was a leaning towards a preference for DCO+CCLA by board members20:24
russellbmarkmc: sounds only marginally better20:25
mordredthat would solve nothing20:25
markmcto me, the acceptability of that depends on the details20:25
ttxmarkmc: I don't think that solves a lot20:25
mordredI do not support that and would vote against it on the board20:25
markmcif the DCO is all that is required/enforced for contributions20:25
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devanandaif i understood mark's points on the call last week (and it's quite possible I don't) there seemed to be legal ambiguity about going to a completely-DCO-based approach20:25
ttxokk quick poll, "original" or "option" ?20:25
markmcand the Foundation encourages companies to sign the CCLA after the fact20:25
* ttx votes "option"20:25
markmcthen it is still a big improvement, IMO20:25
russellbmarkmc: sure that'd be fine20:25
russellbencourage/allow, but not require20:25
* mordred disagrees, being a member of a big corporating and having gotten CCLA's signed20:25
markmcdevananda, what was the abmiguity?20:26
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ttxdevananda: legal is ambiguous by design20:26
devanandamarkmc: IIRC it had to do with bankruptcy of corporate contributors20:26
devanandattx: indeed20:26
jeblairto be fair, i think there are other options20:27
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devanandaalso, having seen the FUD inside of a big corporation around teh CCLA, I don't think it was helpful to the process of getting developers to contribute20:27
jeblairthe ones in radcliffe's presentation are just the ones that radcliffe has chosen to present20:27
devanandaeven after it was signed20:27
markmcclaindevananda: right… I'm guessing that concern is also followed by the legal departments that assume a lawsuit of some for is inevitable20:27
ttxjeblair: sure, but it includes the one we want, no ?20:28
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jeblairyeah, i'm just noting that because someone is pasting all of them in the etherpad i linked :)20:28
ttxthat's definitely not all the combinations proposed20:28
mordredI would like to respond with what we want, not which of the chosen bad set we prefer20:28
devanandamarkmc: so based on my experience, I'd agree with mordred - the foundation encouraging companies to sign a CCLA might still be enough to scare them off20:28
dhellmannjeblair: yeah, I was doing that for the folks that didn't have the presentation handy20:28
markmcdevananda, it wouldn't be my preferred approach; but I do think it would be an improvemtn20:29
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reeddevananda, I have no evidence that corporations are not scared of CCLA20:29
ttx#startvote Which approach is the best to expose our case? original, option, dunno20:29
dhellmannif there are others, we can add them for reference20:29
openstackBegin voting on: Which approach is the best to expose our case? Valid vote options are original, option, dunno.20:29
openstackVote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.20:29
markmcdevananda, for example, allowing us to take patches from operators under the DCO20:29
ttx#vote option20:29
ttxby popular request, the startvote bot is back20:29
russellb#vote dunno20:29
russellbi think they're both fine20:29
markmcclain#vote dunno20:29
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russellbboth  serve the purpose of saying "we care"20:29
russellbso whatever20:29
dhellmann#vote dunno20:29
devanandamarkmc: yup. I agree that the DCO is definitely an improvement from a foundation-can-take-your-patch perspective :)20:29
markmc#vote original20:30
devanandattx: is "origina' that we tell the board what we want, and don't pick from a specific option?20:30
vishy#vote dunno20:30
ttxdevananda: yes20:30
devananda#vote original20:31
markmcoriginal also spells out our rationale20:31
mordred#vote original20:31
* ttx sobs20:31
ttxok 30 seconds left20:31
markmcwhich (if I can say) is a nice concise summary of the arguments richard and I were documenting20:31
devanandarussellb: but 'option' tells the board we endorse a specific solution20:31
openstackVoted on "Which approach is the best to expose our case?" Results are20:31
openstackdunno (4): dhellmann, russellb, markmcclain, vishy20:31
markmcso, it's endorsing the rationale which was presented to the board in July20:31
openstackoption (1): ttx20:31
openstackoriginal (3): mordred, markmc, devananda20:31
ttxI guess I lose, and will back the original.20:32
jeblairokay, i will provide a link to info on the DCO20:32
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jeblairand i'll also implement jaypipes' suggestion too?20:32
jaypipesjeblair: only if we're serious about this.20:32
russellbi seriously accept the suggested change20:32
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dhellmannjeblair: +120:32
mordredrussellb: ++20:33
jeblairokay, i'll have that up before the meeting is thru20:33
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ttxyeah, serious was a bit overboard20:33
markmcwait, this is the for serious TC meeting?20:33
ttxI am a serious open source dev20:33
* markmc got times mixed up20:33
ttxFOSDEM is a serious conference20:33
markmcnot an amateur?20:33
ttx#topic Testing interface update20:34
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jeblairmarkmc: should i link to here? http://ltsi.linuxfoundation.org/developers/signed-process20:34
ttxI think we can collect +1s and get them approved today20:34
ttx* Import the Project Testing Interface description (https://review.openstack.org/119872)20:34
ttxThis one needed one more YES last time I looked20:34
markmcttx, James Bottomley uses this: http://developercertificate.org/20:34
ttxoh, it has 7 now20:34
mordredttx: the last in the chain needs discussion20:34
* ttx approves20:34
jeblairmarkmc: ack will do20:34
ttxmordred: sure, we'll get to it20:35
ttx* Two minor style cleanups (https://review.openstack.org/119873)20:35
ttxSame here20:35
ttx* Update testing interface to reflect reality (https://review.openstack.org/119874)20:35
ttxThis one has the required approvals20:35
ttxThat leaves us with:20:36
ttx* Add a docs environment to the testing interface (https://review.openstack.org/119875)20:36
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ttxmordred: care to introduce it ?20:36
mordredalmost all repos have such an env ... but there is question about whether that's a good thing20:37
jeblairthe practical upshot of this is that we will open the door to projects adding non-standard build steps for docs20:37
jeblairthe current practice enforces that 'python setup.py build_sphinx' is the way docs are built; the new one is designed so that you can do something before running that20:37
markmcthese concerns aren't mentioned in the review, right?20:37
ttxmarkmc: no20:38
russellbyeah, the review concerns were trivial it seemed ...20:38
ttxthe -1s are about ordering I think20:38
dhellmannjeblair: the reason I like the new env has nothing to do with extra steps: it's easier to tell someone to "tox -e docs" than "tox -e venv -- python setup.py build_sphinx" if they want to build the docs locally to test20:38
ttxit's a bit orthogonal concern though20:38
jeblairdhellmann: yeah, which is why most projects added it20:38
jeblairand i dig that20:39
ttxsince refactoring it in the same commit would actually make 2 changes in one20:39
lifelessdhellmann: maybe a makefile :)20:39
markmcjeblair, why is that not a concern about 'python setup.py test' ?20:39
mordredlifeless: no20:39
sdagueyeh, if this is about testing interface it seems fine20:39
jeblairbut the reason it's showing up here is that someone wanted to add an external build step20:39
dhellmannmarkmc: because a bunch of projects are already doing non-standard things there20:39
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jeblairwhich i argued was unecessary.  i think we even came to the conclusion that the fact that they had to do that was a potential bug in pbr20:39
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* dhellmann would be interested in more details outside of the meeting20:40
jeblairso anyway, i'm not -1ing on this, and am okay with it as it stands20:40
jeblairbut i want to make sure that it is really our intention to allow this20:40
dhellmannI'm OK with infra asking us not to allow this20:40
jeblairbecause not only does it technically permit it, but the description in the docs also says it is okay20:40
dhellmannprojects can still have the venv as a convenience20:40
lifelessmaking distributors depend on tox to build docs might be weird for them20:41
lifelessin fact, I think it would be bad for them20:41
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mordredthey don't need to20:41
mordredthey can run the commands20:41
jeblairwe could also change the pti to use the docs build but just say that you shouldn't add any extra pre-build steps, if we wanted to do that20:41
lifelessmordred: the implication jeblair is talking about - if allowed - will mean there isn't an interface they can use that doesn't involve setting up a venv20:41
lifelessmordred: so they wil have to copy-the-code-from-tox.ini, no ?20:42
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mordredlifeless: I have stopped caring about that20:42
russellb+1 to stating it's for convenience, and to not be wonky with it20:42
mordredsince they all patch out pbr for no reason20:42
markmccould we perhaps get a summary of all of this in the review and come back to it?20:42
markmcseems to be taking a bunch of time here for a pretty minor thing20:42
mordredmarkmc: ++20:42
ttxjeblair: could you collect that and comment on the review ?20:43
ttxor anyone else?20:44
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jeblairit's going to be a +0 though20:44
ttx#action jeblair to clearly express the potential concern about innocent-looking https://review.openstack.org/11987520:44
ttx#topic Other governance changes20:44
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ttx* Add openstack/designate-dashboard to the DNS Services program (https://review.openstack.org/119549)20:45
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ttxI don't think we should block this one. It's just a program creating another repo20:45
ttxthey need it to land a dashboard proptotype20:45
russellbi'm just irritated that we're making them do this20:45
ttxsince horizon at the moment only accepts integrated projects20:46
mordredI think it's crazy20:46
markmcclainrussellb: +120:46
sdagueyeh, this is weird20:46
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russellbttx: that's what i think is weird20:46
ttxif mordred has its ways that will be a thing of the past20:46
dhellmannthe alternative is to ask horizon to accept the dashboard now?20:46
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russellbi think projects should be encouraging and accepting of integration with incubated projects20:46
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ttxI don't think we should block designate though20:46
russellbthat's the point of incubation time, isn't it?20:46
markmcclainrussellb: ++20:46
ttxand we can have that discussion with horizon20:46
ttxrussellb: arguably not20:46
ttxit's the point of integration :)20:47
zanebttx: if mordred has his way, horizon will have guidance at all as to what to include (unless it's needed to run wordpress)20:47
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zanebs/guidance/*no* guidance/20:47
devanandafwiw, horizon has said the same thing to ironic20:47
russellbwell anyway, point taken that this is largely not an approval and just a document update20:47
ttxhorizon feels like it should include dashboards for integrated projects only, on the first cycle they are integrated20:47
devanandanot accepting dashboard panels until ironic graduated20:47
russellbjust something we should really follow up on20:47
russellbif we can put it on our future agenda to discuss, i'll remove my -120:47
jeblairthis is not reversible20:48
ttxbut that is an otrthogonal discussion, to be had with horizon folk20:48
jeblairgit repos are forever :/20:48
devanandaI do not see the problem with designate creating their panel inside of their existing repo20:48
devanandathen moving the particular code tree to horizon when horizon will take it20:48
ttxwe did it for sahara-dashboard though20:48
zanebfwiw Heat's policy is resources in /contrib until graduation, then they move into the main part of the tree20:48
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russellbttx: but it seems silly to do it again20:48
russellbincubation should be enough of a signal that projects should start working together20:49
SergeyLukjanovttx, ack, we've just finished moving our code to horizon20:49
russellbmake it off by default or whatever if needed20:49
bswartzdoes horizon not have an "experimental" area?20:49
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jeblairsahara had like 5 repos, i didn't even notice one was for horizon :)20:49
bswartzwe face this issue with manila -- currently we have a fork of the horizon project with out horizon integration20:49
jeblairanyway, i'm not -1 on it; we move enough repos around as it is, but we should follow up with horizon and see if we can work something else out20:50
devanandattx: how "OK" is it for projects to create temporary repos, in general? and if that's not normally OK, why is it OK in this case?20:50
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ttxjeblair: the fact that git repos are forever goes a bit against our will to allow programs to organize code repos as they see fit20:50
ttxif we consider that expensive, that means we'll be back at policing all the repo creations20:50
russellbour criteria for graduation includes: must have completed integration work with other integrated projects20:51
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mordredjeblair: if we graft-merged, we could remove the repo, because we would keep all the history20:51
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mordredwhich is the no-delete concern20:51
jeblairttx: i disagree that it goes against our will;20:51
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jeblairttx: we don't generally object to programs creating new repos as they see fit20:51
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jeblairttx: we're objecting to creating a throw-away repo because of an arbitrary policy decision that we all find inconvenient20:52
mordredjeblair: ++20:52
jeblairttx: the marginal cost of this is low from a technical point of view.  from a process and developer experience point of view it is quite high.20:52
ttxwe also say that completing horizon integration is a first-cycle thing20:52
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ttxrussellb: ^20:53
devanandattx: I think policing all the repo creations is acceptable, but taht's a discussion for the ML20:53
ttxso we can read that however we want20:53
russellbthose seem to contradict :)20:53
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russellbit literally says includes dashboard integration20:53
jeblair(not to minimize the cost to horizon of accepting any old thing in their tree; clearly a balance needs to be found, i think this just isn't it)20:53
ttxOK, so we should ask Kiall if he could not live with a single repo20:53
russellb* Project must have completed integration work with other integrated20:53
russellb  projects, as communicated by the TC when accepted into incubation (that20:53
russellb  includes Dashboard integration if applicable)20:53
russellb^^^ in "graduation to integrated"20:53
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ttxthen see if Horizon feels ok with accepting incubated stuff in code20:54
russellbso we mention it twice in our doc20:54
jeblairrussellb: wow, we already made the change that we all are thinking we should make :)20:54
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ttxjeblair: I think half of us thought A, half of us thought B and we all got our stuff in20:54
ttxthe current reality is that Horizon includes dashboard for projects on their first integarted cycle20:55
ttxwe can change that20:55
ttxbut that's the current way it's always been done.20:55
ttxbut that's actually a separate discussion20:56
russellbi really don't want to block designate ... my intention with a -1 was really to see if we could make life simpler for them20:56
ttxthe core of this discussion is "couldn't you se your main repo for temporary stuff"20:56
russellbi think that's secondary personally ...20:56
ttxI guess that's a valid objection.20:56
ttx(deva's latest objection)20:56
devanandaI haven't seen anything suggesting they can't use the main repo ?20:57
russellbyeah i guess that's one way to do it20:57
russellbif it's a temporary staging area20:57
ttxdevananda: that's just not what they asked for :)20:57
devanandarussellb: basically what we did for nova's ironic driver20:57
ttxok, moving on20:57
ttx* Add keystoneclient-kerberos repo to Keystone (https://review.openstack.org/120310)20:57
ttxThis one is hopefully a no-brainer20:57
ttxsince it's not throw-away20:57
ttx* Add ha-guide to Documentation program (https://review.openstack.org/121643)20:58
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ttxsame for this one, will approve unless someone complains (anne +1ed it)20:58
jeblairdolphm: can you review https://review.openstack.org/120310 please?20:58
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ttx* Propose guidelines for adopting new official projects (https://review.openstack.org/116727)20:58
morganfainbergjeblair, dolphm has been hit and miss out. he may or may not be around for the rest of the day20:59
ttxif this one doesn't take 22 comments into account, I guess we can abandon it20:59
ttxzaneb: planning to do another patchset there ?20:59
morganfainbergjeblair, i meant to poke him about it earlier but forgot, sorry.20:59
zanebI was working on one20:59
zanebbut not sure if it will be superseded by the discussion that mordred started on the ML21:00
devanandattx, zaneb: that seems to echo a lot of the topics recently on the ML21:00
ttxOh, and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/119794/ just got rebased, so if you could pile up the +1s again i'll reapprove it21:00
devanandazaneb: exactly...21:00
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jeblairi think it may be worth waiting to see how the big-tent discussion goes21:00
ttxagree, maybe Workflow-1 it21:00
zanebok, will do21:00
jeblairi pushed up a new version of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/120260/ (dco/cla)21:00
ttx#topic Open discussion21:00
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ttxLast thoughts ?21:00
jeblairis this our last meeting?21:01
ttxThose meetings are too busy, no time to discuss the TC dinner.21:01
zanebttx: oh, I can't workflow -1 it21:01
ttxjeblair:  no21:01
jeblairttx: when is that?21:01
ttxzaneb: I did it21:01
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zanebstrange, I thought the owner could always do that21:01
ttxjeblair: see my tc meeting announcement email to the -tc list21:01
ttxwe have at least one more21:01
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ttxand we could also run them during the election period, we've done so in the past21:02
ttxwhich would add two more21:02
anteayatc candidate questions are up on the wiki: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/TC_Elections_October_2014#TC_Election_Questions21:02
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ttxok, time up21:02
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Sep 23 21:02:33 2014 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)21:02
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markmcthanks ttx21:02
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2014/tc.2014-09-23-20.02.log.html21:02
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ttxdhellmann, dolphm, notmyname, eglynn, markwash, jgriffith, zaneb, david-lyle, mestery, SlickNik, SergeyLukjanov: around ?21:03
* devananda lurks21:03
ttx#startmeeting project21:03
openstackMeeting started Tue Sep 23 21:03:11 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:03
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'project'21:03
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ttxOur agenda for today:21:03
ttx#link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/ProjectMeeting21:03
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ttx#topic News from the 1:1 sync points21:03
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ttxHere is the log:21:03
ttx#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2014/ptl_sync.2014-09-23-08.02.html21:03
ttxMost projects still struggling with RC1 buglists21:04
ttxRC1 race tracked at:21:04
ttx#link http://old-wiki.openstack.org/rc/21:04
ttx(insert bi-yearly disclaimer for not having time to move it to infra again)21:04
ttxI see the horizon buglist was pruned recently21:04
jeblairthat's probably a warez site by now :)21:04
ttxit's my warez site.21:04
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ttxand soren's21:05
ttxhint: the curves on this graph should go DOWN.21:05
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ttx#topic Other program news21:05
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ttxAny other program with a quick announcement ?21:05
jeblairi'm going to send an announcement to -dev soon about this21:06
jgriffithttx: just the update on cinderclient21:06
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jeblairwe are going to freeze project configuration changes in infra (eg, jenkins/zuul config changes) starting thursday21:06
jeblairso that we can move all of the project configuration into its own repo21:06
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jeblairwhich is awesome because it means it will be much easier for you (yes -- YOU) to review21:06
* SergeyLukjanov here21:06
* dhellmann dances a bit21:06
mesteryjeblair: Yay!21:06
jeblairnew repo will be openstack-infra/project-config21:06
jeblair(existing repo will eventually be renamed openstack-infra/system-config at a later date; we also have other plans for it afoot)21:07
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notmynamejeblair: ie each project will have its own config repo?21:07
ttxjeblair: what's the difference with openstack-infra/config ?21:07
notmynameor just moving all project config to one separate repo?21:07
jeblairnotmyname: the second thing21:07
ttxyou separate the puppet stuff from the config stuff ?21:08
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jeblairttx: basically21:08
ttxso other installs would just use system-config, but would redo project-config ?21:08
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ttxok, got it21:09
anteayaprototype of what project-config will look like when we are done: https://github.com/anteaya/reorganized-project-config-0221:09
ttxany other announcement ?21:09
jeblairttx: yeah, but more refactoring of system-config needs to happen to make that more useful.  but that's the general idea.21:09
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jeblairttx: it's a very long-term plan :)21:09
jeblairanyway, we will try our best to flush the config review queue before the freeze21:10
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dhellmannin case anyone missed the announcement on the ML, we've started removing code from the incubator for graduated libraries. backports should go straight to the stable/juno (or other stable branch) if needed.21:10
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ttx#topic Requirements freeze exceptions21:10
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ttxSo sdague dhellmann and myself went on a cleanup spree for the requirements repo21:11
ttxwe are left with a number fo depfreeze exceptions21:11
ttxthat we need to decide on21:11
ttx* kombu >=2.5.0 (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92095/)21:11
ttxThis is just bumps the lower bound for kombu21:12
ttxi'm not sure we *need* it for Juno, but it's certainly closer to reality21:12
dhellmannis that what we're gating on?21:12
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ttxwe are gating on 3.something21:12
dhellmannwow, ok21:13
ttxpersonally I would freeze that one and wait for a more documented bump to 3.x21:13
ttxrather than just bump 2.4.8 to 2.5.021:13
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devanandattx: a few things have come up for ironic which would be useful to us, but not critical. please let me know if this is the right place to discuss, or if, as a non-integrated project, it's simply too late21:13
dhellmannyeah, that makes sense21:13
ttxwhich feels like a shot in the dark21:13
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ttxdevananda: probably too late yes21:14
ttx* urllib3 (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122993/)21:14
devanandattx: ack21:14
ttxthis one is more funny21:14
sdaguettx: the commit message on kombu explains why 2.4.8 is unlikely to work21:14
ttxsdague: ah! here you are21:14
ttxbut we aren't really sure 2.5.0 would work a lot better ?21:14
sdaguekombu 2.5.0 and newer has switched away from amqplib21:15
ttxhmm, ok, so 2.5.0 is closer to 3.0 than to 2.4.8 maybe21:15
sdagueto amqp, which is a fork of amqplib started with the following21:15
sdague2.5.0 had a known lib dep change21:15
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ttxI can agree with that21:15
ttxLet's bump unless someone complains21:15
ttxsdague: was confised by your lack of +2 on that one :)21:16
sdaguettx: I rebased it21:16
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ttxso .. bck to urllib321:16
sdagueI had an old +2 on it21:16
dhellmannthe urllib3/requests thing seems like a mess21:17
ttx* urllib3 (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122993/)21:17
sdaguedhellmann: agreed21:17
ttxit's the vendorizor vs. Debian thing21:17
* dhellmann considers creating "demands" as a fork21:17
lifelessdhellmann: LOL21:17
sdagueand honestly, I'd rather not make it more of a mess at this stage of the release21:17
sdagueso my feeling is stay how we've been doing this21:17
sdaguecan change in kilo21:17
ttxsdague: yeah. Debian does effectively fork request locally by unvendorizing it21:17
ttxso they can carry the patch that will make it work21:18
ttxeven if they are doing the right thing21:18
clarkbsdague: I agree, we have tested it this way all cycle and requests is used everywhere21:18
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morganfainbergsdague, ++21:18
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dimsclarkb: our min version of requests is very old though21:19
clarkbdims: ok?21:19
dimsclarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122716/ just saw this one yday21:19
sdaguedims: we're actually testing with 2.2.0 atm21:20
ttxcommenetd  -121:20
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ttx* xstatic-jquery-ui >=1.10.1 (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113184/)21:20
dimssdague: asking for requests>=2.1.021:20
ttxdavid-lyle: around?21:20
david-lylethis is due some structural changes in the package of jquery21:20
sdaguedims: there is no requirements review for this is there?21:20
ttxso that's a lower bound bump from 1.8.1821:20
david-lyleit's actually intended to be a convenience to packagers21:21
dimssdague: wanted to check before i raised one21:21
sdaguedims: well we're in freeze, so no21:21
david-lyleotherwise when they replace the jquery package with the system package, they have to alter some paths21:21
ttxdavid-lyle: they all seem happy with it on the review21:21
ttxsdague: any reason we should block it ?21:22
sdaguettx: no, I'm pretty 0 on the xstatic stuff21:22
ttx* websockify >=0.6.0 (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/114757/)21:22
sdaguebecause it continues to confuse me :)21:22
ttxsdague: do liek me and pretend you understood what David just said21:22
dhellmannttx: +2a21:22
sdaguewebsockify bump would close a nova bug21:23
sdaguethat's why I revived it21:23
ttxit seems the packagers can live with it21:23
ttxI think that's a vlid case21:23
markmcclainmakes sense21:24
ttx* python-heatclient >=0.2.11 (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/122520/)21:24
ttxzaneb: did you get the opportunity to talk with steve*?21:24
sdaguestevebaker did just -1 it himself21:24
zanebso it wasn't a specific bug thing21:24
ttxok, no need to up the floor then21:25
zanebjust a case of wanting to make sure that all the new features for Juno were available21:25
zanebttx: agree21:25
ttxi'll -2 depfreeze it21:25
ttxand unfreeze it in a few days when all RC1s are baked21:25
dhellmannlooks like we have a bunch of approvals that are failing tests (or just not merging)21:25
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sdaguedhellmann: well rackspace deb mirrors were borked all morning21:26
ttxyes, we'll need a few reeenqueues21:26
sdagueand there is a giant backlog because of that21:26
ttxI'll follow up tomorrow morning if nobody beats me to it today21:26
ttx#topic Kilo release schedule21:26
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ttx#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/046793.html21:27
* ttx looks at thread to see new comments21:27
ttxso we ahve to choose between two options21:27
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ttxone tries to anticipate on a short M cycle by placing the release date on Apr 23, but that means 3 full weeks between release and summit21:28
ttxwhich can be a bit long, that's what we did before HK21:28
zanebI'm not sure that an "off-week" really is equivalent to an extra week to work on L21:28
morganfainbergzaneb, i'd agree with that assessment.21:28
zaneband it didn't really work as an "off-week" either21:28
ttxthe other is the natural date (Apr 30), with two full empty weeks between release and summit21:29
clarkbttx: in the past we tried to sync the releases to ubuntu releases. is that still very important? maybe we can live with our releases being a bit more skewed based on summit dates?21:29
ttxbut that makes for a rather short M cycle21:29
* eglynn_ questions the whole idea of an officially blessed "off-week"21:29
mesteryeglynn_: ++21:29
ttxclarkb: the date on Apr 30 is sure to screw them up a bit21:29
sdagueyeh, I'm pretty -1 on off-week as a concept21:29
eglynn_the dates are never going to suit everyone, or even most people, for taking vacation21:29
ttxdon't focus on off -week. Are you -1 on the concept of 3 full weeks between release and summit21:29
zanebeglynn_: last time I thought I would spend the week actually working on code, but email continued to roll in at exactly the same rate :/21:29
dhellmannit was more about saying "we're not going to be reviewing anything" than "go take a vacation"21:29
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sdaguettx: so I'm more -1 about the earlier cadence issues21:30
dhellmannI didn't take the week off, but was ablt to focus on some internal work21:30
sdaguefor the start stop reasons I pointed in my email21:30
zanebttx: I am -1 on that. the summit is already too late IMO21:30
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ttxok, so you all prefer Apr 30 as release date, even if that means a short M cycle21:31
sdaguettx: you mean L cycle, right?21:31
sdaguebut us21:31
ttxno I mean M21:31
ttxL cycle will be long.21:31
sdaguettx: I'm confused21:31
jgriffithsdague: longer L means shorter M21:31
zanebttx: I think you're mistaken21:31
eglynn_dumb question: I presume the summit date is already fixed in stone?21:31
jgriffithunless we adjust again21:31
ttxyes I am confused21:32
zanebM summit will be early so L cycle will be short21:32
dhellmanneglynn_: I would expect so, by now21:32
ttxsLong K cycle (Oct 16 - Apr 30)21:32
morganfainberglong K cycle, short L cycle.21:32
sdagueright, short L21:32
ttxShort L cycle (Apr 30 - Oct 8/15)21:32
sdagueyeh, I'm fine with short L21:32
morganfainbergi think we can plan for that, and with a full cycle notice it shouldn't be a big issue21:32
mesteryAlso fine with a short L21:32
eglynn_yeah it makes more sense that the longer lead-in to the L summit21:32
zanebtbh long K cycle is good because we always lose a lot of time over new year21:32
eglynn_zaneb: good point21:33
ttxOK, I'll rework the proposal21:33
dhellmannzaneb: that's a good ponit21:33
zanebthey may come out about even in real terms21:33
sdaguebecause honestly, I think naturally aligning around big outages like christmas will actually provide higher throughput21:33
morganfainbergzaneb, very good point.21:33
ttxand ask RFC with the whole schedule shifted one week to the right21:33
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ttxclarkb: so it may screw up Ubuntu, but then they didn't ask us before setting their release dates21:33
sdaguettx: +121:33
clarkbttx: ya I don't think I am personally worried about it. I just remember that being one of the reasons for stickign to 6 months pretty closely21:34
ttxand they scrapped their own event so they don't have so much constraints as we do21:34
clarkbalso with cloud archive this probably becomes less problematic?21:34
sdaguettx: do we have L milestone map as well?21:35
sdagueif we know when the summit is, it would be handy to get that out there, so people can plan midcycles further in advance21:35
ttxthe summit date is not confirmed yet21:35
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ttxbut i can build one based on the hypothesis21:35
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morganfainbergttx,that would be good.21:35
sdaguemight be handy so we know what we're talking about L wise21:36
ttx(I actually already have)à21:36
sdaguebecause honestly, I'm very pro getting milestone-3 back into august, because I felt like the post labor day rush week after tons of people on vacation caused some oddities21:36
ttxall options put l-3 milestoen the week before labor day21:37
ttxor the week before that21:37
ttxso we should be safe there21:37
eglynn_labor day is when, the first Monday in September?21:38
ttxSep 7 in 201521:38
clarkblooks like we lose about 3 weeks in L with long K?21:38
ttxclarkb: i would blame the summit late May, rather21:39
clarkboh right the summit isn't moving21:39
eglynn_so bringing L-3 too early into August could also have issues with typical European vacation patterns21:39
ttxso I would do a short release-summit, with only one full week between the two21:39
devanandattx: week before might overlap with burning man, for what that's worth21:39
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ttxdevananda: what's BM 2015 dates ?21:39
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sdagueeglynn_: yeh, honestly, it's probably better to have it land during people's vacations than after21:40
devanandausually the labor day weekend, but let me check if they're announced21:40
morganfainbergttx, Monday 31st Augustto Monday 7th September 2015 - TBC  according to http://www.festivalmag.com/festivals/burning-man/21:40
devanandattx: Sept 0521:40
sdaguebecause we saw this giant push of "zomg merge my code there are 3 days left"21:40
sdagueand then went into 40 hour gate queues21:40
sdagueand landed tons of bugs21:40
eglynn_sdague: yep, fair point21:40
dhellmannthis spreadsheet is confusing, which part should I be looking at?21:41
ttxdevananda: but then you're off for the two weeks before that, so it doesn't really help :)21:41
sdagueif we have ms3 in august then we can just say - dude get your stuff in early, because reviewers will be on fvacation21:41
devanandattx: so expect anyone who's attending that to be offline from aug 29 - Sept 6, if not earlier21:41
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sdaguedevananda: there are far less people at burning man than on regular vacations :)21:41
ttxdhellmann: clearer ?21:41
dhellmannttx: yes, thanks21:42
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devanandasdague: indeed :)21:42
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ttxanyway, still wip21:42
ttx#topic Open discussion21:42
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ttxwe don't even know if we'll have an integarted release then21:43
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devanandaor who'll be PTL21:44
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eglynn_... or even if we'll still have PTLs ;)21:44
SergeyLukjanovttx, david-lyle, for sahara we need several patches to be merged into horizon to make it fully working - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sahara-horizon-remaining-changes-for-juno21:45
* david-lyle looking21:45
ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1349807 is targeted to k121:45
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1349807 in horizon "[sahara] Failed to copy cluster template" [Medium,In progress]21:45
david-lyleI may have bumped that today21:46
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ttxhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/118159/ has no bug linked21:46
ttxhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/118493 doesn't seem to have a horizon bug linked either21:46
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ttxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/horizon/+bug/1367394 is untargeted21:46
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1367394 in horizon "[data processing] Allow username password to be optional for data sources/job binaries" [Undecided,In progress]21:47
ttxSergeyLukjanov: you might want to make sure they are all attached to bugs that are targeted to RC121:47
SergeyLukjanovttx, should we re-upload them with bugs attached and target them to rc1 to make sure that sahara will work in Juno Horizon?21:47
ttxotherwise we'll probably release without them in21:47
david-lyleSergeyLukjanov: yes21:47
SergeyLukjanovttx, okay, I'll reupload patches after the meeting and ask david-lyle to target them to rc121:47
SergeyLukjanovdavid-lyle, ttx, thx21:48
david-lyleonly one of those I was tracking at all21:48
david-lyleSergeyLukjanov: ++21:48
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ttxok, anything else ?21:48
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ttxI'll take that as a no21:49
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eglynn_good night all!21:50
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ttxThanks everyone21:50
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SergeyLukjanovttx, thx21:50
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