Thursday, 2014-10-02

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DaisyWho is there for I18n meeting?08:00
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Daisy#startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting08:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Oct  2 08:01:40 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Daisy. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting'08:01
* rajeshr is here08:01
DaisyHi, rajeshr08:02
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rajeshrHi Daisy08:02
* ygbo is here too08:02
* Fdot is in da place :)08:02
ygboHy all08:02
DaisyHello, all08:02
FdotHello all08:02
DaisyLet's start08:02
ygbos/Hy/Hi/  :-)08:02
Daisy#topic  status update on Horizon translations08:02
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DaisyTill now, we have made good progress in Horizon translation.08:03
DaisyChinese (China), Japanese, Portuguese (Brazil), French, German, Polish (Poland), Spanish, Chinese (Taiwan), Korean, English (Australia), English (United Kingdom)08:03
DaisyThese languages are completed finished or almost finished.08:03
DaisyThank you for coordination.08:03
rajeshrDaisy, I have started for Hindi and hope to work till this weekend08:04
DaisyI don't get notice on Horizon RC1.08:04
DaisySo I think it might not be cut yet.08:04
Daisyygbo: is Horizon RC1 cut ?08:04
DaisyHorizon RC1 will be cut very soon.08:05
DaisyAfter RC1, RC2 will be only for translations.08:05
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ygboDaisy: not yet out, wait, I'm checking08:05
DaisyAfter negotiation with Horizon dev team, we get 1 week after RC1 to finish the translation. So the deadline for translation is set to Oct. 9th.08:06
DaisyWe have an extra 1 week now.08:06
Daisyrajeshr: I think you will have enough time to do the translation.08:06
FdotDaisy: Horizon will be in string freeze ?08:07
DaisyNot strict string freeze at all.08:07
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DaisyActually, I think, the string freeze is not strict.08:07
DaisyI have seen several times of string changes.08:07
Daisyafter "string freeze" in Horizon.08:08
DaisyHorizon RC1 is only for features.08:08
DaisyIf it is true that Horizon RC2 is only for translations, I think, that means, after RC1, there won't be string changes.08:08
FdotDaisy: no pb :) We will do our best to keep our 100% ;)08:09
DaisyAgree, we will do our best.08:09
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DaisyAny questions on Horizon translation and the timeline ?08:09
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DaisyOK. Let's move to next08:10
Daisy#topic Translators meet up in Paris summit08:10
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DaisyParis summit will be started from Nov 308:11
DaisyThe design summit will be on Nov 4, 5, 6 and 7.08:11
DaisyThe schedule for design summit is not clear yet.08:11
DaisyGenerally speaking, Nov 4 will be for cross-project sessions. Nov 5 and Nov 6 are traditional scheduled sessions.08:12
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DaisyAnd Nov 7 will be opened for contributors meet up.08:12
DaisyI plan to have a translators meet up on Nov 7.08:13
DaisyNot sure the exact date and time.08:13
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DaisyI have distributed 16 registration codes for translators.08:14
DaisySo I think, there might be more than 10 translators there.08:14
DaisyIt will be great to have a face to face meeting there.08:14
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DaisyI have written down my request there:
FdotI am agree and for France there will be a good presence of our community08:15
DaisyThanks, Fdot.08:16
Daisyujuc: are your travel sponsor request approved? Will you go to Paris?08:16
ujucno.... T.T08:16
Daisyany reasons?08:17
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DaisyNow let's use a Etherpad to track what we want to discuss during the meetup.08:19
DaisyHere is a link:
ujucmoved company, and travel sponsor not pass.. :(08:19
DaisyIt's a pity. let's talk about it offline. ujuc.08:20
DaisySo please write down what you want to talk and discuss in the Etherpad page.08:20
DaisyFdot, ygbo: I'm looking forward to see your inputs there.08:21
FdotDaisy: ok :)08:21
ygboDaisy: sure :-)08:22
DaisyThank you.08:22
FdotI have to  think about it08:22
FdotBut i have some ideas ;)08:22
DaisyI'm sure you two will have great ideas.08:22
Daisy#topic Open discussions08:23
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Daisyamotoki wants us to discuss about the compiled message catalogs.08:23
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DaisyFdot and ybo: have you run OpenStack in French environment?08:24
ygboDaisy: yes :-)08:24
FdotDaisy: yes :)08:25
Daisyygbo: sorry I type your id wrong.08:25
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FdotDaisy: ;)08:25
Daisyare you running with French language enabled?08:25
ygboDaisy: yes08:25
FdotDaisy: yes08:25
DaisyI mean, not only Horizon, but also Nova, Glance and so on.08:25
FdotAh ! No only Horizon for the moment08:26
DaisyHave you ever compile po files to mo files?08:26
FdotThe API are still in english08:26
ygboDaisy: yes, I have compiled po files to mo files08:26
DaisyI think, because Horizon has mo files in their code repository, the installation won't need to compile mo files. Am I right?08:26
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DaisyBut as to other projects, they don't have mo files. If we want to use non-English languages, we have to compile po to mo files.08:27
ygboDaisy: in horizon indeed mo files are provided08:27
ygbohowever, since we included in our deployment some of my patches before upstream merge, I had to generate the po files with diferent strings, and the mo files08:28
Daisyok. understand.08:28
ygbothe hard part was too keep up to date with upstream by using msmerge and msgcat08:28
Daisyamotoki wants to know if the source code repository should contain mo files or not.08:29
Daisyygbo: your thoughts?08:29
ygboI've see amotoki's post08:29
ygboI agree to remove the mo files08:29
DaisyI have the same opinion with you.08:29
ygbobut it's my point of view since I know how to generate the mo files08:30
DaisyI think, keeping both po and mo files are a kind of duplication.08:30
ygboWe will just have to add a short doc for people who deploy to explain how to generate the mo files08:30
DaisyI think, installation program should generate mo files if users don't know how to do that.08:31
ygboDaisy: for people who deploy from a deb or rpm or any distro package, sure it will be done by the packaging08:31
ygbobut for people who deploy from source we'll just document it08:32
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ygboI can easily update it :-)08:33
DaisyNice document, ygbo.08:33
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DaisyAnything else to talk?08:34
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FdotDaisy: I have started :
FdotIf anybody want to add ;)08:35
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DaisyI will distribute this link to ML and ask for other language teams input.08:35
FdotI am going to send an e-mail to the french translators which are coming for asking them to add their subjects08:35
DaisyYou have listed a lot of questions. :)08:36
FdotDaisy: I did my bast ;)08:36
DaisyThanks, Fdot08:37
DaisyAnythings to talk?08:37
DaisyIf no, I will end this meeting.08:37
DaisyThank you all for attending.08:39
FdotThank a lot Daisy08:39
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FdotHave a good day/night everybody :)08:39
DaisyPlease try your best to keep 100% progress with Horizon tranlation.08:39
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DaisyLet's keep contact by mailings08:40
ygboThanks all :)08:40
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dougwig#startmeeting neutron lbaas14:00
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dougwig#topic roll call14:00
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dougwigrm_work wanted to start with a short hello session today14:00
rm_mobileEvery day :P14:00
dougwig#topic Announcements14:01
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dougwigv2 reviews14:01
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dougwigwe need some + or -1's on the first couple reviews.14:01
dougwigKilo Design Summit14:01
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dougwigany other announcements?14:02
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dougwigmoving on to a couple of items from this week's neutron meeting...14:03
evgenyfI would like to know if there is some documentation how to use/develop project which is in inqubation14:03
bloganevgenyf: neutron lbaas v2 isn't in incubator anymore, its in a feature branch14:03
sballeevgenyf: yeah the whole Neutron incubation thingy has gone away14:04
evgenyfblogan: thanks, is there any difference from developers perspective?14:04
blogani believe they're going to reintroduce it for kilo14:04
dougwigthat wiki is pretty weak, but it's basically the same as before, but use a branch.14:04
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rm_mobileEvgeny, can you abandon the TLS CR's? They've been copied over to the new branch14:04
sballedougwig: so this is still true: right?14:05
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evgenyfrm_mobile: will do for L7 and TLS14:05
blogansballe: i updated that page with the correct reviews now14:05
rm_mobileDoug, can you put the new CR for TLS as WIP?14:06
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sballeblogan: thanks14:06
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dougwigsballe: yes, though it needs to be updated with the new gerrit review #'s14:06
dougwig#action blogan update deploywithdevstack lbaas wiki14:06
blogani ddi that14:06
dougwigoh, sweet.14:06
blogan#action dougwig undo that action14:06
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sballeblogan: dougwig Thanks14:06
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dougwigevgenyf: does that answer your question?14:07
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rm_mobileThey forgot item.get text()14:07
rm_mobileDarn autocorrect14:07
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evgenyfdougwig: I think yes, thank you14:08
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dougwig#topic Kilo Specs repo is now open14:08
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dougwigi expect that we need to resubmit our v2 specs.14:08
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dougwigi won't auto-move those, since rm_mobile might kill me if i do so.  :)14:09
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rm_mobileNah, just nag you a lot14:09
dougwigoh, that might be worth it.14:09
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bloganthe lbaas v2 spec could definitely use some updating, probably a good time to do that14:09
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dougwigone more tidbit from neutron:14:10
dougwig#topic Juno Docs contributions14:10
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dougwigif you have content for the network guide, you can edit that wiki, and the docs folks will move it to the right place.  there are several lbaas subsections.14:11
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dougwig#topic Requiring keystone v3? (rm_work)14:12
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TrevorVForgive me, but what does TOC stand for?14:12
dougwigrm_mobile: take it away14:12
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rm_mobileUhh skip me and come back14:12
dougwigtable of contents14:12
dougwignow they're starting to fill in the content.14:13
dougwigok, skipping rm_mobile brings us to...14:13
dougwig#topic Open discussion14:13
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bloganevgenyf: is sam around?14:13
evgenyfblogan: around, not on this IRC mmeting14:14
sballeDo we know who will be in Paris? I am hoping we can get some good discussions and resolution done while we are there face to face.14:14
bloganevgenyf: okay ill have to send him an email14:14
rm_mobileAny chance HP wants to sponsor me? :P14:14
blogansballe: from rax it will just be ptoohill and I14:14
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ptoohillyay :/14:15
sballerm_mobile: Sorry HP already cur down on our attendance :-(14:15
dougwigsballe: i'll be there14:15
rm_mobileSad :(14:15
sballexgerman and I will be there too14:15
sballerm_mobile: Anybody from Rackspace?14:15
xgermanrm_work did yoiunapply for the travel program?14:15
xgermanalso Cisco gas one person less to pay for14:16
rm_workxgerman: no because I thought I was going via rackspace until after it closed14:16
rm_workI literally already had a plane ticket and hotel reservations14:16
rm_workthen they said "nevermind cancel those" <_<14:16
bloganyou still have both!14:16
bloganyou can pay it out of pocket14:16
bloganhow committed are you to this project?14:17
sballeblogan: that is going to be expensive14:17
rm_worknot quite that much <_<14:17
dougwigrm_work: do you just want to wear the minimum pieces of flare?14:17
blogansballe: good way to weed out those who aren't committed fully14:17
sballeblogan: you are mean ;-)14:17
blogani know :(14:17
bloganor :)14:18
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ptoohillblogan wouldnt pay for it himself, js14:18
rm_workoh, uhh14:18
bloganim not crazy!14:18
rm_workdougwig: you can come back to me i think14:18
ptoohillnot committed14:18
rm_worksince it looks like there's literally nothing else >_>14:18
dougwig#topic Requiring keystone v3? (rm_work)14:19
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rm_workOk so14:19
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rm_workKeystone versioning is confusing, but, it looks like Trusts is actually an extension, and is TECHNICALLY available via v2 Identity API14:19
rm_workso if you don't expose Identity v3, but you do have the Trusts extension, it should be fine14:20
rm_workthough it is slightly less efficient (two round-trips instead of one)14:20
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rm_workand as far as Horizon, it looks like via Horizon it will use an actual key (since the user has just given it -- Horizon does a key-hijack essentially, it seems)14:21
dougwigas long as we hide that nuance in a library call, creating LB's isn't a common operation, so i don't care if it's five round trips.14:21
rm_workso creating a Trust via a Horizon popup if necessary shouldn't be a big deal14:21
rm_workdougwig: kk, assuming we don't have to fetch TLS info on EVERY update14:21
dougwigdoes that mean horizon will submit a key instead of a barbican id?14:21
xgermanoh, ok, so they just hijack the ticket14:21
xgermanah key14:21
rm_workdougwig: no, I mean14:22
rm_workHorizon hijacks the user token from the user's login to the UI, and uses that14:22
rm_workthe concern was possibly only having access to a Trust token (which wouldn't be able to create further Trusts)14:22
dougwigahh, got it.14:22
rm_workHopefully everyone involved has the Trust extension in keystone available in their deployments, or can make that so?14:23
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xgermanthat is a good question14:23
rm_workIf so, we shouldn't have a problem14:23
dougwigi don't see a problem making trusts a requirement for tis support.  does anyone else?14:23
xgermansballe and I will check14:23
rm_workAlso, the authing is going to be a little bit complicated, it's going to have to be a plugin system anyway just to do this auth14:23
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rm_worksince Rackspace doesn't technically use Keystone in our deployment <_<14:23
rm_workand some people will use v2 and some will use v3 of Keystone Identity API14:24
dougwigdoes this all work with heat?14:24
rm_workif the user has set up Heat, they've already created one Trust for Heat, so we'll have to assume they are capable enough to create a second for us14:24
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rm_workHeat won't be able to automatically create a Trust for us14:24
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rm_workso any Heat templates will just have to assume the Trust was created and fail if not14:25
rm_worksince it's a once-per-account thing it shouldn't be a huge deal I think14:25
morganfainbergrm_work, Trusts in Keystone V2 are not *really* well supported14:25
rm_workmorganfainberg: yeah, I'm relying on info from
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1331884 in keystone "A V2 token from trust cannot be generated with user/pass" [Wishlist,In progress]14:25
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morganfainbergrm_work, just as a quick bit of insight, they are there, but have oddities. V3 is the right answer.14:26
morganfainbergrm_work, that bug is on my short list of "probably don't want to accept it"14:26
rm_workmorganfainberg: ok... well, there are a lot of things that are the "right answer", but I don't know if we can manage all of them :)14:26
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rm_workmorganfainberg: definitely value further input though, if you have ideas...14:26
morganfainbergi tend to view v2 as frozen, no new features. that falls into the category of new features. i've held off on squashing it though for a bit.14:27
rm_workso we have one recommendation for Keystone Identity v3 API requirement14:27
rm_workmorganfainberg: so that doesn't *actually* work yet?14:27
morganfainbergv2 tokens directly from username/password in trusts?14:27
rm_workmorganfainberg: i think I read the bug as "you have to do it this slow way, could you fix it so it's one call"14:27
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rm_workok, so it's *not possible* yet, and *would* look like that, if implemented14:27
morganfainbergyou can't do it as 1 call, you need token and then exchange the token for the trust14:27
rm_workwhelp, back to v3 req14:28
rm_workmorganfainberg: err wait, so was I correct or not?14:28
morganfainbergok, sorry :)14:28
morganfainbergyou *can* uses trusts with V2, you cannot do it as one pass14:28
morganfainbergyou can only get trust tokens via a token.14:28
rm_workso that's "fine" if it's what it takes to keep from introducing a hard requirement on Identity v3 in Neutron14:29
rm_workI think we'd all probably like to avoid that if possible14:29
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rm_worksince this isn't just for neutron-lbaas, it's going into neutron/common14:29
morganfainbergwe're talking for Kilo cycle right?14:29
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dougwigi'm thinking a broader audience with the ML might be warranted here.  i know you got very few replies with your first open ended query, but maybe a focused question/warning along the lines of 'lbaas/tls is going to require the user to set a trust just for lbaas, is this a problem?", targeted at neutron/heat/keystone, will get more eyeballs on it.14:29
morganfainbergok. well quick recommendation, V3, if you're using trusts is a much better target14:30
rm_workyeah I'll include like, every tag I can think of14:30
rm_workand basically just resend that email with a few updates about the v3 req14:30
morganfainbergand for Kilo my expectation is we will get everyone off V2, i am hoping V2 can be deprecated formally within the nex cycle or two14:30
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bloganrm_work: make it as brief as you can, people tend to not read lengthy emails14:31
dougwigblogan: +114:31
morganfainbergbut that is a lofty goal, so, whatever you're deciding I recomment you make sure it works both v2/v314:31
morganfainbergif at all possible.14:31
rm_workthat's it for me then I think14:31
xgermanback top Open Discussion14:32
rm_workmorganfainberg: though if you wanted to accept that bug, i wouldn't complain :)14:32
dougwig#topic Open discussion14:32
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xgermanrm_work you might want to start a kickstarter for your Paris trip14:32
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rm_workxgerman: I don't know if that's against their EULA14:32
morganfainbergrm_work, i've been waiting on it, i honestly don't want to encourage new "functionality" to v2. but it's on my list for needs eval. can't just squash it14:32
morganfainbergrm_work, gofundme ;)14:32
rm_workbut if not.... maybe? :P14:32
morganfainbergrm_work, or indigogo instead :P14:32
rm_workmorganfainberg: i'm +1ing it14:33
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morganfainbergso in short, go ahead and use v2 trusts, but it is highly highly recommended you use v3 instead :). [next cycle or two for formal deprecation means likely L or M]14:34
* morganfainberg lets you guys get back to your discussion.14:34
xgermanthanks morganfainberg, very good info!14:34
dougwigthanks for your input today morganfainberg14:34
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dougwigany other topics to discuss besides rm_work's paris woes?  if not, we'll end early today.14:35
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dougwigok, bye folks...14:36
ptoohillGuess I may have missed the answer, but are we re-creating the CR's?14:36
ptoohillsrry, im slow ><14:36
dougwigptoohill: most have been carried over:
bloganptoohill yes14:36
xgermanit looks to me like we are resetting the clock14:36
dougwigdrivers and specs need to be done by their original authors14:36
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ptoohillk, got further details from aharwell. Thanks guys14:37
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dougwiganything else from folks?14:37
ptoohillrm_mobile* :P14:37
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eglynn#startmeeting ceilometer15:00
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eglynnhey, y'all15:00
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eglynn#topic Juno close-out15:01
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eglynnso RC1 is in the bag! :)15:02
eglynn... or tagged and bagged as the cool kids would say :)15:02
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eglynnso the final juno tag will be based on this15:02
eglynn*if* we don't find any showstoppers in the mean time15:03
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eglynnif we do need an RC2, then the fix would have to be landed on master first then backported to proposed/juno branch15:04
DinaBelovaeglynn, I just wanted to point one interesting bug15:04
eglynnDinaBelova: shoot15:04
DinaBelovapossibly it'll be a huge pain if we won't fix it15:04
* DinaBelova searching15:04
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1357343 in python-ceilometerclient "ceilometer-alarm-evaluator fails after sometime with giving 401" [Medium,In progress]15:04
DinaBelovait's the issue having roots in the our client updated to the oslo common code15:05
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DinaBelovaso now after long time alarm evaluator running15:05
eglynnDinaBelova: token expiry?15:06
DinaBelovaeglynn, yeah15:06
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eglynnmeh! we had similar problems before with the ceiloclient, which were fixed like a year ago15:06
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eglynnOK, that definitely needs to be fixed15:06
DinaBelovaeglynn, yeah, so there was the change by me merged to oslo-incubator15:06
DinaBelovaand now it's trying to be updated in the ceilo client15:07
DinaBelovaone moment15:07
eglynnDinaBelova: so we will need an RC2 in that case15:07
DinaBelovaeglynn, here it is
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DinaBelovaalthough it's kind of blocked for now with gordc change15:08
gordceglynn: are clients under the same release rules?15:08
DinaBelovaeglynn, it won't be needed the rc215:08
DinaBelovait'll be ceilo client change15:08
gordcDinaBelova: my change merged... but i think we need to properly resync that item.15:08
DinaBelovabut we need to merge this asap15:08
DinaBelovaand create new ceilo client release15:09
eglynna-ha, I see15:09
DinaBelovafor the installations15:09
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eglynngordc, DinaBelova: the clients were supposed to be frozen before juno-rc1, but agreed, we'll definitely need a 1.0.12 to get this fix15:09
DinaBelovaeglynn, a-ha, ok15:09
DinaBelovagordc, good to know it'll be merged15:09
pradeglynn, could we please consider this for juno rc
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1374012 in ceilometer "Ceilometer polls lbaas resources even when the neutron enabled and disabled lbaas" [Medium,Fix committed]15:09
eglynnprad: yes, we should get that in15:10
pradty sir15:11
eglynnOK looks like we will need both a new ceiloclient release and an RC215:11
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DinaBelovaeglynn, yeah, with this bug -  yes15:11
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gordcthere's two other bugs i've tagged with rc-potential:
eglynn was the one that we thought was fixed in RC1 right?15:12
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1369124 in ceilometer "syslog in gate-swift-dsvm-functional full of ceilometer errors" [Medium,In progress]15:12
gordceglynn: yeah, that was the one i where i fixed nothing... or i fixed half of it.15:13
eglynnyeah, let's try to get our value in cutting an RC2 and get all 3 fixes in15:13
gordceglynn: agreed. actually only affects juno (it's a py26 related bug)15:14
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1375568 in ceilometer "Python2.6: Error importing module ceilometer.ipmi.platform.intel_node_manager: 'module' object has no attribute 'OrderedDict'" [Medium,In progress]15:14
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eglynnlet's aim for EoD Monday for all fixes landed if possible, so that I can request the RC2 in the rel mgr 1:1 on Tuesday at 11:45UTC15:14
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gordctwo patches:
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DinaBelovagordc, a-ha, ok15:16
eglynnone last thing about the juno closeout15:16
eglynnI need to report back to the TC on the gap analysis outcome15:17
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eglynnI've marked pretty much everything as completed15:18
eglynn... except one task under Tempest: "curate the ceilometer Tempest coverage to ensure it does not become persistently problematic in the gate"15:18
eglynn... which I guess could be interpreted as an ongoing requirement in any case15:18
gordceglynn: seems accurate to me.15:18
DinaBelovaeglynn, yes15:18
ildikoveglynn: the #4 in the docco is not done yet15:19
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cdentthere's incremental progress with getting the USE_SCREEN=False stuff turned on which is supposed to help with the problem with services sometimes not starting15:19
ildikoveglynn: but I don't think that currently it would hurt anyone though15:19
eglynnildikov: a-ha, k, I'll try to "finesse" that one :)15:19
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cdentthere was a huge mess trying to get that stuff backported to icehouse (you may have seen Sean ranty email) but it has made it through just today15:19
cdentthe backport was required to get grenade working15:20
cdentin the end this ought to result in more stable ceilo in tempest15:20
ildikoveglynn: thanks, well, it's still better to have info on more places, than nowhere :)15:20
eglynncdent: nice work! I didn't see that ranty mail, but I'll read after the meeting, thanks for the heads-up15:21
cdentthe gist is that icehouse in the gate is fuxored15:21
cdentand nobody cares15:21
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DinaBelovacdent, heh..15:21
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eglynnDinaBelova: I wondering also about "land the stalled Tempest patches" task given that the nova notification test was then skipped?15:21
eglynnDinaBelova: ... your unskip patch didn't land yet, amiright?15:22
DinaBelovaeglynn, that's true..15:22
gordcDinaBelova: have you tried rebasing/running it again recently?15:22
DinaBelovaeglynn, here it is
DinaBelovagordc, will do today15:22
DinaBelovahad a hot weeks15:23
gordcDinaBelova: cool cool, np15:23
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eglynncool, it would great to get that landed15:23
DinaBelovaeglynn, yeah, for sure15:23
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eglynnanything else juno related?15:24
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eglynn#topic TSDaaS/gnocchi status15:24
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eglynnjd__: the floor is yours!15:25
jd__good progress again this week15:25
jd__we now have merged all archive policy stuff15:25
eglynncool :)15:26
jd__we have Keystone middleware enabled by default15:26
jd__(and support loading more middleware if needed)15:26
jd__sileht progressed on the Ceilometer dispatcher15:26
* eglynn will finally rebase his influx patch to try to emulate the archive_policy logic15:26
jd__and started working on aggregation15:26
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jd__and we fixed a bunch of bugs and race condition in the tests15:26
jd__so it's getting pretty solid at this stage15:27
silehtjd__, thx for the resume :)15:27
eglynnyeah, interesting discussion on the mean-of-means versus mean-of-raw-data on the cross-entity aggregation review15:27
jd__we also now gate on py34-postgresql15:27
jd__(we can't gate on py34-mysql because mysql does not work with Python 3)15:27
eglynna-ha, so can that job be skipped?15:28
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eglynnok, we only have a py34-postgres right now15:29
eglynnso no need to skip, cool, got it15:29
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jd__also I'm working on the tooz IPC issues that sileht discovered15:29
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silehtjd__, this one is not easy15:30
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eglynnBTW amalagon is working with the new archive policy support in her gnocchi custom aggregators15:31
eglynn(... so that she can select the most granular data available when aggregating across periods, to avoid the mean-of-means distortion where possible)15:31
jd__sileht: finger crossed I'll fix it :D15:31
silehtjd__, I guess we can fix it, if gnocchi run as standalone (even with multiple worker), but for guys that will use wsgi, it's not possible15:32
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jd__sileht: I'm actually trying to fix in tooz directly15:32
eglynndoes that issue only manifest with the posix_ipc driver for tooz?15:32
silehteglynn, yep15:32
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eglynnwould we be recommending the tooz/ZK driver instead for production deployments?15:33
silehtonce you have more than one gnocchi node you don't have the choice15:33
sileht(or tooz/memcache driver)15:33
jd__yeah for now IPC is only for one instance of Gnocchi running or in the unit tests15:34
eglynnso really IPC approach is mainly intended for really small deployments and the tests?15:34
jd__but I hope to fix that in tooz directly15:34
jd__eglynn: yes, one node or tests15:34
eglynncool, got it, thanks!15:34
eglynnanything else on gnocchi?15:35
eglynn#topic Tempest status15:35
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eglynnmain thing here would be to get that nova notification test unskipped before the TC review if poss15:35
eglynn(slated for the next TC meeting, Oct 7th)15:36
DinaBelovaeglynn, I'll rebase it15:36
DinaBelovalet's give it a try15:36
eglynnDinaBelova: great, thanks!15:36
DinaBelovaeglynn, np15:37
eglynn#topic kilo summit planning15:37
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DinaBelovayay, kilo sumit soon :)15:37
eglynnso I got confirmation that we'll definitely be down from 10 to 6 slots for Paris15:38
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DinaBelovathat's akward...15:38
DinaBelovabut anyway :)15:38
eglynnapparently the average cut was 33% as there's one less day of formal design sessions15:38
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DinaBelovaeglynn, and that organised 'pod' day, yeah?15:38
eglynnbut that was weighted by a rough metric of "project activity" over juno15:38
eglynni.e. a metric of BPs/bugs/reviews etc.15:39
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eglynnso we got a slightly larger cut15:39
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eglynnI guess becuase some of the focus was on gnocchi15:39
DinaBelovaeglynn, wow! i did not know they were using these stats15:39
eglynnDinaBelova: me neither, until I asked how the decision was made15:39
DinaBelovaeglynn, a-ha, ok, got it15:39
eglynnthe upside is we'll have a full day on Friday of the "contributor meetup" ... i.e. the pod++15:40
cdentthat's going to be yet anothe perverse incentive15:40
cdent"I get more goodies if I make lots of useless bps/bugs/reviews"15:40
eglynncdent: yeap, as if we didn't already have enough of those ...15:40
DinaBelovaeglynn, I also wantd to note that ityaptin is preparing the lab to test gnocchi (speaking about the performance part, but who knows, probably we'll find some other issues)15:41
eglynnenough of those perverse incentive I meant ... as opposed to useless BPs ;)15:41
eglynnDinaBelova: coolness :)15:41
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eglynnwe'll discuss concrete topics next week15:43
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eglynn(as agreed last week)15:43
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eglynnmoving on ...15:44
ildikovI cannot attend the next week's meeting :(15:44
eglynn#topic OPW ideas15:44
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eglynnildikov: ok, we can maybe push it out a week, I'll check when the schedule needs to be formalized15:44
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ildikoveglynn: cool, thanks15:45
eglynnon the OPW, we've a good record of diversity promotion on this project :)15:45
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eglynntwo previous OPW interns (Terri & Ana) and another volunteer interested for the next round15:45
DinaBelovaeglynn, here is the etherpad
DinaBelovaso let's fill it :)15:46
eglynnDinaBelova: thanks! ... exactly15:46
DinaBelovaI hope to spend time tomorrow for this thing15:46
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eglynnif anyone has any project ideas, no matter how wacky, please do drop a quick description onto that etherpad15:47
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eglynnto give a sense of the scoping ... Terri worked on adding group_by semantics to the ceilo v2 API, Ana is working on period-spanning stats for gnocchi15:47
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eglynnthanks to DinaBelova for stepping up to mentor in this upcoming cycle!15:48
DinaBelovaeglynn, np :)15:48
DinaBelovaI'd love to try :)15:48
DinaBelovaI hope I'll be useful in this role15:49
jd__I've one for Gnocchi I think15:49
eglynnjd__: nice one!15:49
DinaBelovajd__, it should be telemetry :) gnocchi or ceilo - it does not matter imho15:50
jd__some people expressed interest in having a Ceph driver for Gnocchi15:50
DinaBelovajd__, wow :) who are they? :)15:50
DinaBelovajust interested15:50
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eglynndirect native ceph, as opposed to ceph-sitting-behind-swift?15:51
jd__eglynn: yes15:51
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eglynncool, that sounds really interesting15:51
DinaBelovajd__, that's interesting thing btw15:51
DinaBelovaeglynn, indeed15:51
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jd__I talked about that with nijaba_ TBH15:51
DinaBelovajd__, a-ha, ok15:51
eglynnjd__: would it be an appropriate level of complexity/challenge for an intern?15:52
jd__eglynn: good question, I don't know15:52
* nijaba_ confirms15:52
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DinaBelovaeglynn, speaking about the technical thing - yeah, it would be15:52
DinaBelovabut it won't be clear OpenStack task to be honest15:52
jd__I think it is technically15:52
eglynncool, esp. if the intern has a bit of storage-foo already15:53
jd__yeah it's kind of a mix, though it's still writing code for OpenStack15:53
jd__like it would be writing a driver for Nova or Neutron15:53
jd__and since it would be based on Carbonara, it wouldn't be uber complicated too15:53
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ildikovlooks closer than the etherpad after the first quick read15:54
DinaBelovaildikov, yeah, for sure15:54
eglynncool, so the main challenge would be mapping the swift client semantics onto the equivalent under the ceph API?15:54
jd__eglynn: likely15:54
DinaBelovaildikov, I just hope to find even better variant15:54
ildikovis there a deadline for deciding the task?15:54
cdentGiven recent hullabaloo about "vendory" stuff is a ceph project ideal?15:55
eglynnildikov: application are due by Oct 2215:55
ildikovDinaBelova: well, it's never an easy task, I guess we could investigate a bit the Ceilo-Gnocchi integration area, maybe it could give some more tasks, I'm not sure now15:56
eglynncdent: ceph being open-source mitigates the vendory feel15:56
ildikoveglynn: cool, thanks15:56
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eglynnildikov: but that the application deadline for the intern herself15:57
ildikoveglynn: and they choose project or task?15:57
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chmoueleglynn: the difference between the two is one using rest api and the native rados library is not (it's a library calling directly the ceph nodes)15:58
eglynnildikov: yeah ... to be realistic, the idea would have to be firmed up before then as the intern applies for a particular project idea15:58
cdenteglynn: that's certainly an argument to make, I suppose, but some people would probably not agree and what's the win of just ceph v swift over ceph?15:58
chmoueleglynn: but i don't think this is hard15:58
ildikoveglynn: hmm, then we're already late :)15:58
eglynnchmouel: a-ha, got it, thanks!15:58
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eglynnildikov: yeah, sooner the better re. the ideas15:59
cdentI don't have a position on this, just observing.15:59
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ildikoveglynn: yeap, sure, got it15:59
eglynnlooks like this ceph work has definite potential though15:59
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cdenttime has run out16:00
eglynnanything else on letting a thousand diverse flowers bloom in the open source world? :)16:00
eglynnk, let's skip open discussion this week, the shot-clock has beaten us16:00
eglynnthanks for your time folks!16:00
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eglynn#endmeeting ceilometer16:01
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imendel#chair russellb16:01
imendel#chair bauzas16:01
imendelwho is here for nfv sub group?16:02
bauzasimendel: you forgot to start the meeting16:02
bauzas#startmeeting nfv16:02
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bauzas#chair imendel16:02
openstackCurrent chairs: bauzas imendel16:02
imendeli think i did..16:02
bauzasnope, the "#" was missing :)16:02
bauzasI leave you drive the meeting16:02
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imendelwho is here for nfv?16:03
bauzasso \o16:03
colintdcolintd from Metaswitch, standing in for cloudon1 who can't make the meeting16:03
imendel#info agenda for today
imendellet's start?16:03
imendelfirst topic in the agenda is action items16:04
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imendelcolindt, can you update on the vlan trunking?16:04
imendelcloudon1 has an ai on it16:05
colintdCalum sent a note to the list yesterday detailing the usage case16:05
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colintdEssentially vlan trunking provides a clean means of getting customer traffic into an NFV app with separation16:05
imendelI guess we shall review and discuss. Anyone has a comment or want to discuss it today?16:06
colintdCustomer traffic comes into the service provider network over a range of access means, and the SP then dumps each customer's traffic into its own VLAN16:06
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imendelthis is for public networks or tenants ones?16:07
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colintdIt will depend on the application, but typically each VLAN will connect to a customer net16:08
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colintdSo the trunk allows all the customer nets to be presented to a VNF over a single interface, with no reconfig required as nets added and removed16:09
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imendelok, so this would be the main use case for it i guess.16:10
colintdYes, a very typical use.  Similar uses exist between SPs carrying end-to-end customer traffic.16:11
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imendelok, tnx. I suggest we read the use case send and discuss further if needed in the ml16:12
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colintdmakes sense16:12
imendelnext topic in the agenda is review the design summit plans16:12
imendel•#topic ALL please review relevant project design summit plans (Nova, Neutron, Heat, Glance, etc.)16:12
imendel#topic ALL please review relevant project design summit plans (Nova, Neutron, Heat, Glance, etc.)16:12
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imendeltnx bauzas... still learning :)16:13
bauzasimendel: sorry this is part of the topic action items yet :)16:13
bauzasimendel: no worries16:13
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imendelanyone review the plans for the summit?16:14
bauzasso, I guess it's hard to see a commitment on that action :)16:14
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imendelwe cn move to the next so16:14
imendelkeshava here?16:15
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bauzasimendel: I don't think so16:16
imendeli guess no. so will follow up next week on service insertion16:16
bauzaslet's put him again an action item16:16
bauzasI leave you doing that ... :)16:16
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bauzas# action owner to do sth16:17
imendel#action for keshava to follow up on last week action (service insertion and chaining use case)16:17
imendelI guess we can move to next topic...16:17
imendel#topic Juno status16:17
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bauzasimendel: tbp, this is #action someone to do sth16:18
bauzasbut that works too16:18
bauzasso, Nova RC1 is landed16:18
bauzashaven't seen any communaction from ttx about Neutron RC116:18
ttxbauzas: open-kulo change  still gating16:19
bauzas#info Nova RC1 is tarballed16:20
bauzas#info no status about Neutron RC116:20
bauzasttx: you mean about Neutron ?16:20
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bauzas#info Neutron Kilo trunk not yet open (on gate atm)16:21
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imendelother updates on Juno?16:22
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bauzasimendel: I haven't followed that much, but it seems all necessary patches landed for RC116:22
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bauzasI was seeing some ndipanov's bugfixes, dunno the exact status about it16:22
bauzasndipanov: ^?16:23
bauzastalking about NUMA blueprints16:23
ndipanovbauzas, what? it works like a charm16:23
bauzasndipanov: oh cool16:23
ndipanov12 embarrassing bugs later16:23
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bauzasnice so RC1 is NUMA happy16:23
ndipanovit should be yeah16:24
bauzasimendel: that's it for me then16:24
imendelok, I guess it's the current status. Do we want to follow up next week too?16:24
bauzasimendel: don't think so, RC2 is on its way but not including patches from our side16:25
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imendelbtw sriov is also happy in RC1?16:25
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bauzasbaoli: you there ?16:25
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baolibauzas: Hi16:26
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bauzasbaoli: hi, imendel was querying about SRIOV status for RC116:26
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bauzasbaoli: do you have anything missing from RC1 ?16:26
bauzas#info potential Nova RC status is here
baolibauzas, I think that we are in good shape in RC1.16:28
bauzasbaoli: cool16:28
baolibauzas, there is bug, which I'm thinking to make it RC2 if possible16:28
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1370348 in nova "Using macvtap vnic_type is not working with vif_type=hw_veb" [Undecided,Confirmed]16:28
baolibauzas, what's the deadline for RC2?16:29
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bauzasbaoli: good question16:29
bauzasbaoli: I don't know yet16:29
bauzasthat's the rolling ballet for releases candidates16:29
imendeli guess we can move to next topic?16:30
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imendel#topic Kilo planning16:31
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bauzasbaoli: if you want to ship the bugfix into RC2, I would suggest you to discuss that with johnthetubaguy and mikal16:31
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bauzasbaoli: it depends if it's a really regression bug16:32
johnthetubaguybaoli: makre sure it gets the tag anyways16:32
bauzasbaoli: or it will be shipped into the Kilo trunk16:32
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bauzasimendel: now, dates have been confirmed for Kilo16:32
baolibauzas, it's not a regression.16:33
bauzasimendel: let me find the email16:33
baolijohnthetubaguy: what tag should it get?16:33
johnthetubaguybaoli: juno-rc-potential16:34
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imendelmeanwhile see link to the active bp list16:34
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baolijohnthetubaguy: thanks.16:35
bauzas#link Kilo release schedule16:35
bauzasimendel: now, we need to figure out which bps are good candidates for Kilo16:36
imendelany inputs on bp for Kilo...16:36
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imendelWe discuss in the past the scheduling bps. any insights from the team?16:38
bauzasimendel: well, at least some specs have already been approved16:38
bauzasimendel: those are good candidates for being worked on first16:38
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bauzasimendel: what do you mean by "scheduling bps" ?16:38
imendelbauzas: we have them listed?16:38
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imendelbauzas: all the related to scheduling decisions. like NIC state aware scheduling16:39
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bauzasimendel: well, if the spec has been rejected, it will take more time than other efforts16:40
bauzasimendel: because it needs to be approved first16:40
bauzasimendel: unless it's something quite handy to work on, like a new filter16:41
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imendelright. it was just an example. we have also Solver Scheduler - complex constraints scheduler with NFV use cases16:41
bauzasanyway, some triaging/prioritization has to be done for NFV, I leave sgordon and others identify the main efforts16:41
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bauzasimendel: both the examples you mention are not having a good consensus yet16:42
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imendelright. I was asking as I thought we discuss in the past it's an interesting idea. but if status is that still no consensus we can drop16:43
imendelfor now16:43
bauzasanyway, I think that's it we can do for today re: priorities16:43
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imendelwe want to discuss cross-projects session proposal16:44
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imendelany specific suggestions? I think ahoban had one last meeting16:46
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imendelbut I don't see him around today16:46
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imendelbauzas: you recall?16:47
bauzasnot that much16:47
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bauzaslet's discuss that maybe next week16:48
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imendelseems so...  yes16:49
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imendelso last one for today is the ETSI gap analysis publication16:49
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imendel#topic: ETSI gap analysis publication16:50
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bauzasredo it16:50
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imendel#topic ETSI gap analysis publication16:50
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bauzasis this something public ?16:51
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imendelDoes anyone has an update on it?16:51
imendelI can try and check for next week if no one here has16:51
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bauzassure, I leave you take an action then16:52
bauzasI'm interested in the analysis :)16:52
imendel#action imendel to check on ETSI gap analysis publication16:52
imendelany other items for discussion ?16:53
imendel#topic other discussion16:53
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bauzasnice timing, 5 mins for opens16:53
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bauzashearing crickets...16:54
imendelI guess no other items...16:54
imendelso bauzas, tnx for your help today, i needed it :)16:55
bauzasno worries, you're in a good shape :)16:55
imendeltnx everyone16:55
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mtreinish#startmeeting qa22:02
openstackMeeting started Thu Oct  2 22:02:09 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mtreinish. Information about MeetBot at
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mtreinishhi who do we have here today?22:02
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mtreinish^^^ Today's agenda22:02
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mtreinishok well let's get started and maybe more people will trickle in22:04
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dkranzmtreinish: hi22:04
mtreinish#topic tempest-2 tag (mtreinish)22:04
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mtreinishso now that havana is eol, I'm planning to push the next tag22:04
mtreinishbut since the juno release is so close I was wondering if we should just wait until that22:05
mtreinishbecause it's not like this tag will really be dropping havana support (which would be the point of doing it at an eol)22:05
dkranzmtreinish: I would vote to wait22:05
dkranzmtreinish: I think we said at each release and halfway between, right?22:05
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mtreinishdkranz: no, each release and stable eol22:06
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mtreinishalthough based on the new stable schedule that would probably be about each release and halfway between22:06
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mtreinishdkranz: the idea was to frame which releases are supported by the tag22:07
dtroyero/ here now…22:07
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mtreinishok, well I guess since there are no nays I'll just make the tempest-2 tag at the Juno release22:08
mtreinish#info tempest-2 tag going to wait until the Juno release22:08
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mtreinishok let's move on, unless someone else has something to add22:08
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mtreinish#topic Blueprints22:09
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mtreinishso we're basically at the end of the cycle22:10
mtreinishI'm thinking we'll end up deferring a bunch of open bps22:10
mtreinishalthough andreaf left a status update on some of the bps he's been working on22:10
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mtreinishand I think we'll be able to close out a couple more before the end of the cycle22:10
mtreinishthat being said, does anyone have any status updates on an open bp?22:11
dkranzmtreinish: Does deferring really mean anything other than changing the release field?22:11
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mtreinishdkranz: no, not really22:11
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mtreinishalthough we haven't figure out how we want to handle the specs22:12
dkranz is nearly done except for nova22:12
mtreinishsome of the other projects are making people resubmit for new cycles, although I'm not sure we want to do that22:12
dkranzmtreinish: but since we are really talking about changing the client interface to return one value, there is no point in finishing it as is22:13
mtreinishdkranz: ok, yeah nova is the big one22:13
mtreinishdkranz: well doing the status code in the clients would still be a part of that right?22:13
dkranzmtreinish: But when we change to return one value, it touches all the same code in the tests, so might as well wait22:13
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mtreinishoh yeah, good point22:13
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dkranzI am  eager to get going on removing _, x = () crap22:14
dkranzWe now have a ton of it :)22:14
masayukigdkranz: agreed :)22:14
mtreinishdkranz: well, throw up a quick spec for the new return format. We may not need to wait until summit to start that22:14
dkranzmtreinish: sure, I will just propose what Sean put out22:15
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mtreinishdkranz: ok, I think I'll be fine with that22:16
mtreinishI think everyone else liked it too22:16
dkranzmtreinish: BTW, I am continuing to work on the config_tempest thing. But doing it in a way that works with all deployments is touch and needs a lot of internal testing.22:16
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dkranzmtreinish: I will put up a WIP soon.22:16
dkranzmtreinish: I mean is tough22:16
mtreinishdkranz: ok, I'm be curious to take a look at that22:17
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dkranzmtreinish: By internal testing I mean on clouds that we don't have in the gate22:17
mtreinishespecially because the spec never really went anywhere22:17
dkranzmtreinish: I just went with the comments I had made22:17
dkranzmtreinish: I needed to do it anywat22:17
mtreinishyeah, there were enough comments there from everyone to have a spec just from that :)22:18
mtreinishok are there any other bps to discuss?22:18
gmannmtreinish: deferred BP can be worked immediately or needs to wait till tempest tag etc?22:19
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mtreinishgmann: work can continue, the tag is just a mark to coincide when we dropped or added support for a release22:19
mtreinishgmann: although I haven't deffered anything yet :)22:19
mtreinishmasayukig: I think we're ready to close the scenario migration bp too, unless there's something we missed22:20
mtreinishthe reason the cli tests still worked with the requirements drop is because devstack installs them from git, and the gate runs with site-packages=True22:20
mtreinishalthough the last part doesn't matter, because it's just looking for the binary :)22:21
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masayukigmtreinish: yeah, ok. I got it. I agree to close it.22:21
mtreinishmasayukig: ok cool, can you take care of that on lp?22:22
dkranzmtreinish: that reminds me that we should really have a test that installs tempest on a machine that does not have devstack on it.22:22
mtreinishdkranz: the unit tests don't have devstack22:23
dkranzmtreinish: oh, ok. great.22:23
mtreinishok, last call for any other bps to discuss22:24
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mtreinish#topic Devstack22:25
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mtreinishdtroyer: ok, you're up, anything new in the world of devstack?22:25
dtroyerI'm starting to get the cleanup-type stuff going before we cut the stable/juno release22:26
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dtroyerthat includes cosmetic stuff like docs bugs and comment cleanups22:27
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dtroyerwe are also backporting the re-worked process handling to stable/icehouse so we can get grenade off using screen.22:28
dtroyer(looking) I think they all finally merged…22:28
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mtreinishdtroyer: yeah I think they did22:28
dtroyerthat's pretty much it22:28
mtreinishdtroyer: ok cool, thanks22:29
mtreinishdtroyer: oh, I was curious has there been any updates on making more up-to-date?22:29
mtreinishsomeone was asking about that recently22:29
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dtroyerthat's basically me doing the update by hand…22:31
dtroyerwork has begun to move the hosting to infra-managed server so that should eventually be automated22:31
mtreinishdtroyer: sry, I meant the infra-hosted automation part22:31
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dtroyerah, ok.  not sure, anteaya has been handling that.  I understand the domain transfer has happened so they're willing to do something now22:33
anteayawhat did I do?22:33
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dtroyeranteaya: rehosting22:34
anteayayes the under infra thing?22:34
mtreinishanteaya: yeah, is there anything going on there?22:34
anteayayeah so fungi is getting the foundation owned domain name on the correct rackspace server22:34
anteayaso we can point it where we need to point it, when we have something to point it at22:34
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anteayaright now one of the two parties has a ticket, something about that name in use as a subdomain22:35
anteayafungi is working to get that straigtened out22:35
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anteayathen make a server, or put it on one we have22:35
anteayaand create publish jobs to publish it and host22:35
anteayais how I am envisioning things thus far22:35
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anteayabut hey, y'know, obstacles22:35
anteayathat's what I have22:36
mtreinishanteaya: ok, very cool. Yeah, that seems like a good approach22:36
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mtreinishI was just curious where we stood on that stuff22:36
anteayahappy to share status updates as I have them22:36
anteayaof course, thanks for letting me update22:36
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mtreinishok, then does anyone else have anything else to discuss on devstack?22:36
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mtreinish#topic Grenade22:38
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mtreinishjogo, sdague: anything new on grenade?22:38
mtreinishI've seen some changes going through around javelin22:38
mtreinishand I know progress has been made on stopping screen usage with grenade22:38
fungii hope to get the dns situation worked out for it in the next day or so22:39
fungi(oh, new topic)22:39
mtreinishfungi: heh, no worries22:39
mtreinishok well, I guess we can come back to grenade later...22:40
mtreinish#topic Bugs22:41
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mtreinishgmann: how does are bug backlog look this week?22:41
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gmannIts pretty good progress last week.  new bug went down to 30  -
sdaguemtreinish: sorry, on grenade front I did land the icehouse patches that should let us get there. cdent is looking in the morning22:42
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mtreinishsdague: ok cool, thanks22:42
mtreinishgmann: yeah, I saw a lot of things being closed out by maurosr this week22:42
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mtreinishI think he took this week's rotation22:43
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gmannmtreinish: yes22:44
mtreinishgmann: ok, cool. We're slowly getting there. I'm looking forward to 0 new bugs and hopefully we'll be able to maintain it22:45
dkranzmtreinish: ++22:45
gmannmtreinish: + we keep monitoring the new bugs coming to triage those earlier which is always easy to do for old ones22:45
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gmannmtreinish: yes. hopefully soon  we will be at 0 :)22:46
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mtreinishgmann: are there any bugs that stick out that could use some extra eyes on them?22:46
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gmannmtreinish: currently nothing, but I will let you guys know if something there.22:47
mtreinishgmann: ok cool, thanks22:47
mtreinishdoes anyone have anything else to discuss about bugs?22:47
mtreinish#topic Critical Reviews22:48
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mtreinishok, does anyone have any reviews that they'd like to get some extra eyes on?22:49
dkranzmtreinish: It is not mine, but the one I put in the agenda22:49
mtreinishdkranz: ah, ok yeah22:49
mtreinishthat is one large patch22:50
dkranzmtreinish: It has two +2 from afazekas and me22:50
dkranzmtreinish: I don't see how it could have been smaller. It does what it does.22:50
mtreinishwell he could have broken the functionality of cleanup_server into a series based on functional groups22:51
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mtreinishit looks like it's fairly modular to handle new resource types already22:51
dkranzmtreinish: It is proportional to the number of resources we have22:51
dkranzmtreinish: Yes, that was my main review comment on the first round22:51
mtreinishdkranz: yeah, but reading a 1000+ line file takes a lot of time and will be error prone22:51
dkranzmtreinish: I guess it is a matter of style. I would rather read 1000 lines than 10 files with 100 lines in different patches22:52
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dpatersonmtreinish: It's pretty cookie cutter stuff22:53
mtreinishit looks that way, but its just a matter of what's easily consumable in a sitting22:54
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mtreinishbut I'm not going to block it on that if it already has 2 +2s22:54
mtreinishanyway does anyone else have any other reviews?22:54
mtreinishI have a couple this week myself:22:54
mtreinishok if there aren't any other reviews I guess we can end early22:56
mtreinishI did have summit brainstorming on the agenda22:56
mtreinishbut there isn't a lot of time left to discuss any topics on the list22:56
mtreinishbut I guess I'll push for people to add any topics to that list22:57
mtreinisheven if it's something small given the new summit format it'll be good to just note it beforehand22:57
mtreinishok, thanks everyone22:58
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