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| Daisy | Hello | 08:00 |
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| Daisy | Who is there for I18n meeting? | 08:00 |
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| Daisy | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 08:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 2 08:01:40 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Daisy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 08:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 08:01 |
| * rajeshr is here | 08:01 | |
| Daisy | Hi, rajeshr | 08:02 |
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| rajeshr | Hi Daisy | 08:02 |
| * ygbo is here too | 08:02 | |
| ujuc | HI | 08:02 |
| * Fdot is in da place :) | 08:02 | |
| ygbo | Hy all | 08:02 |
| Daisy | Hello, all | 08:02 |
| Fdot | Hello all | 08:02 |
| Daisy | Let's start | 08:02 |
| ygbo | s/Hy/Hi/ :-) | 08:02 |
| Daisy | #topic status update on Horizon translations | 08:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "status update on Horizon translations (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 08:02 | |
| Daisy | Till now, we have made good progress in Horizon translation. | 08:03 |
| Daisy | Chinese (China), Japanese, Portuguese (Brazil), French, German, Polish (Poland), Spanish, Chinese (Taiwan), Korean, English (Australia), English (United Kingdom) | 08:03 |
| Daisy | These languages are completed finished or almost finished. | 08:03 |
| Daisy | Thank you for coordination. | 08:03 |
| rajeshr | Daisy, I have started for Hindi and hope to work till this weekend | 08:04 |
| Daisy | I don't get notice on Horizon RC1. | 08:04 |
| Daisy | So I think it might not be cut yet. | 08:04 |
| Daisy | ygbo: is Horizon RC1 cut ? | 08:04 |
| Daisy | Horizon RC1 will be cut very soon. | 08:05 |
| Daisy | After RC1, RC2 will be only for translations. | 08:05 |
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| ygbo | Daisy: not yet out, wait, I'm checking | 08:05 |
| Daisy | After negotiation with Horizon dev team, we get 1 week after RC1 to finish the translation. So the deadline for translation is set to Oct. 9th. | 08:06 |
| Daisy | We have an extra 1 week now. | 08:06 |
| Daisy | rajeshr: I think you will have enough time to do the translation. | 08:06 |
| Fdot | Daisy: Horizon will be in string freeze ? | 08:07 |
| Daisy | Not strict string freeze at all. | 08:07 |
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| Daisy | Actually, I think, the string freeze is not strict. | 08:07 |
| Fdot | :( | 08:07 |
| rajeshr | :) | 08:07 |
| Daisy | I have seen several times of string changes. | 08:07 |
| Daisy | after "string freeze" in Horizon. | 08:08 |
| Daisy | Horizon RC1 is only for features. | 08:08 |
| Daisy | If it is true that Horizon RC2 is only for translations, I think, that means, after RC1, there won't be string changes. | 08:08 |
| Fdot | Daisy: no pb :) We will do our best to keep our 100% ;) | 08:09 |
| Daisy | Agree, we will do our best. | 08:09 |
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| Daisy | Any questions on Horizon translation and the timeline ? | 08:09 |
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| Daisy | OK. Let's move to next | 08:10 |
| Daisy | #topic Translators meet up in Paris summit | 08:10 |
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| Daisy | Paris summit will be started from Nov 3 | 08:11 |
| Daisy | The design summit will be on Nov 4, 5, 6 and 7. | 08:11 |
| Daisy | The schedule for design summit is not clear yet. | 08:11 |
| Daisy | Generally speaking, Nov 4 will be for cross-project sessions. Nov 5 and Nov 6 are traditional scheduled sessions. | 08:12 |
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| Daisy | And Nov 7 will be opened for contributors meet up. | 08:12 |
| Daisy | I plan to have a translators meet up on Nov 7. | 08:13 |
| Daisy | Not sure the exact date and time. | 08:13 |
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| Daisy | I have distributed 16 registration codes for translators. | 08:14 |
| Daisy | So I think, there might be more than 10 translators there. | 08:14 |
| Daisy | It will be great to have a face to face meeting there. | 08:14 |
| Daisy | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Summit/Planning | 08:15 |
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| Daisy | I have written down my request there: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-other-projects | 08:15 |
| Fdot | I am agree and for France there will be a good presence of our community | 08:15 |
| Daisy | Thanks, Fdot. | 08:16 |
| Daisy | ujuc: are your travel sponsor request approved? Will you go to Paris? | 08:16 |
| ujuc | no.... T.T | 08:16 |
| Daisy | Why? | 08:16 |
| Daisy | any reasons? | 08:17 |
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| Daisy | Now let's use a Etherpad to track what we want to discuss during the meetup. | 08:19 |
| Daisy | Here is a link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/paris_translators_meetup | 08:19 |
| ujuc | moved company, and travel sponsor not pass.. :( | 08:19 |
| Daisy | It's a pity. let's talk about it offline. ujuc. | 08:20 |
| ujuc | Ok | 08:20 |
| Daisy | So please write down what you want to talk and discuss in the Etherpad page. | 08:20 |
| Daisy | Fdot, ygbo: I'm looking forward to see your inputs there. | 08:21 |
| Fdot | Daisy: ok :) | 08:21 |
| ygbo | Daisy: sure :-) | 08:22 |
| Daisy | Thank you. | 08:22 |
| Fdot | I have to think about it | 08:22 |
| Fdot | But i have some ideas ;) | 08:22 |
| Daisy | I'm sure you two will have great ideas. | 08:22 |
| Daisy | #topic Open discussions | 08:23 |
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| Daisy | amotoki wants us to discuss about the compiled message catalogs. | 08:23 |
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| Daisy | Fdot and ybo: have you run OpenStack in French environment? | 08:24 |
| ygbo | Daisy: yes :-) | 08:24 |
| Fdot | Daisy: yes :) | 08:25 |
| Daisy | ygbo: sorry I type your id wrong. | 08:25 |
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| Fdot | Daisy: http://www.cloudwatt.com ;) | 08:25 |
| Daisy | are you running with French language enabled? | 08:25 |
| ygbo | Daisy: yes | 08:25 |
| Fdot | Daisy: yes | 08:25 |
| Daisy | I mean, not only Horizon, but also Nova, Glance and so on. | 08:25 |
| Fdot | Ah ! No only Horizon for the moment | 08:26 |
| Daisy | Have you ever compile po files to mo files? | 08:26 |
| Fdot | The API are still in english | 08:26 |
| ygbo | Daisy: yes, I have compiled po files to mo files | 08:26 |
| Daisy | I think, because Horizon has mo files in their code repository, the installation won't need to compile mo files. Am I right? | 08:26 |
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| Daisy | But as to other projects, they don't have mo files. If we want to use non-English languages, we have to compile po to mo files. | 08:27 |
| ygbo | Daisy: in horizon indeed mo files are provided | 08:27 |
| ygbo | however, since we included in our deployment some of my patches before upstream merge, I had to generate the po files with diferent strings, and the mo files | 08:28 |
| Daisy | ok. understand. | 08:28 |
| ygbo | the hard part was too keep up to date with upstream by using msmerge and msgcat | 08:28 |
| Daisy | amotoki wants to know if the source code repository should contain mo files or not. | 08:29 |
| Daisy | ygbo: your thoughts? | 08:29 |
| ygbo | I've see amotoki's post | 08:29 |
| ygbo | I agree to remove the mo files | 08:29 |
| Daisy | I have the same opinion with you. | 08:29 |
| ygbo | but it's my point of view since I know how to generate the mo files | 08:30 |
| Daisy | I think, keeping both po and mo files are a kind of duplication. | 08:30 |
| ygbo | Indeed | 08:30 |
| ygbo | We will just have to add a short doc for people who deploy to explain how to generate the mo files | 08:30 |
| Daisy | I think, installation program should generate mo files if users don't know how to do that. | 08:31 |
| ygbo | Daisy: for people who deploy from a deb or rpm or any distro package, sure it will be done by the packaging | 08:31 |
| ygbo | but for people who deploy from source we'll just document it | 08:32 |
| Daisy | agree. | 08:32 |
| ygbo | http://dev.cloudwatt.com/en/blog/deploy-horizon-from-source-with-apache-and-ssl.html | 08:32 |
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| ygbo | I can easily update it :-) | 08:33 |
| Daisy | Nice document, ygbo. | 08:33 |
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| Daisy | Anything else to talk? | 08:34 |
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| Fdot | Daisy: I have started : https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/paris_translators_meetup | 08:34 |
| Fdot | If anybody want to add ;) | 08:35 |
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| Daisy | I will distribute this link to ML and ask for other language teams input. | 08:35 |
| Fdot | I am going to send an e-mail to the french translators which are coming for asking them to add their subjects | 08:35 |
| Daisy | You have listed a lot of questions. :) | 08:36 |
| Fdot | Daisy: I did my bast ;) | 08:36 |
| Daisy | Thanks, Fdot | 08:37 |
| Daisy | Anythings to talk? | 08:37 |
| Daisy | If no, I will end this meeting. | 08:37 |
| Daisy | OK. | 08:38 |
| Daisy | Thank you all for attending. | 08:39 |
| Fdot | Thank a lot Daisy | 08:39 |
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| Fdot | Have a good day/night everybody :) | 08:39 |
| Daisy | Please try your best to keep 100% progress with Horizon tranlation. | 08:39 |
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| Daisy | Let's keep contact by mailings | 08:40 |
| ygbo | Thanks all :) | 08:40 |
| Daisy | #endmeeting | 08:40 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 2 08:40:45 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:40 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2014/openstack_i18n_meeting.2014-10-02-08.01.html | 08:40 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2014/openstack_i18n_meeting.2014-10-02-08.01.txt | 08:40 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2014/openstack_i18n_meeting.2014-10-02-08.01.log.html | 08:40 |
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| dougwig | o/ | 13:59 |
| xgerman | o/ | 13:59 |
| dougwig | #startmeeting neutron lbaas | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 2 14:00:09 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dougwig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| rm_mobile | o/ | 14:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_lbaas' | 14:00 |
| sballe | \o/ | 14:00 |
| sbalukoff | Morning! | 14:00 |
| blogan | \o/ | 14:00 |
| dougwig | #topic roll call | 14:00 |
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| johnsom | o/ | 14:00 |
| rm_mobile | o/ | 14:00 |
| dougwig | rm_work wanted to start with a short hello session today | 14:00 |
| rm_mobile | Every day :P | 14:00 |
| dougwig | ha | 14:01 |
| sballe | :-) | 14:01 |
| dougwig | #topic Announcements | 14:01 |
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| dougwig | v2 reviews | 14:01 |
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| dougwig | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas_reviews | 14:01 |
| dougwig | we need some + or -1's on the first couple reviews. | 14:01 |
| dougwig | Kilo Design Summit | 14:01 |
| dougwig | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-neutron-summit-topics | 14:01 |
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| evgenyf | Hi | 14:02 |
| dougwig | any other announcements? | 14:02 |
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| dougwig | moving on to a couple of items from this week's neutron meeting... | 14:03 |
| evgenyf | I would like to know if there is some documentation how to use/develop project which is in inqubation | 14:03 |
| blogan | evgenyf: neutron lbaas v2 isn't in incubator anymore, its in a feature branch | 14:03 |
| dougwig | evgenyf: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/FeatureBranch | 14:03 |
| sballe | evgenyf: yeah the whole Neutron incubation thingy has gone away | 14:04 |
| evgenyf | blogan: thanks, is there any difference from developers perspective? | 14:04 |
| blogan | i believe they're going to reintroduce it for kilo | 14:04 |
| dougwig | that wiki is pretty weak, but it's basically the same as before, but use a branch. | 14:04 |
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| evgenyf | dougwig:thanks | 14:04 |
| rm_mobile | Evgeny, can you abandon the TLS CR's? They've been copied over to the new branch | 14:04 |
| sballe | dougwig: so this is still true: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Neutron/LBaaS/DeployWithDevstack right? | 14:05 |
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| evgenyf | rm_mobile: will do for L7 and TLS | 14:05 |
| blogan | sballe: i updated that page with the correct reviews now | 14:05 |
| rm_mobile | Doug, can you put the new CR for TLS as WIP? | 14:06 |
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| sballe | blogan: thanks | 14:06 |
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| dougwig | sballe: yes, though it needs to be updated with the new gerrit review #'s | 14:06 |
| dougwig | #action blogan update deploywithdevstack lbaas wiki | 14:06 |
| blogan | i ddi that | 14:06 |
| dougwig | oh, sweet. | 14:06 |
| sballe | ;-) | 14:06 |
| blogan | #action dougwig undo that action | 14:06 |
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| sballe | blogan: dougwig Thanks | 14:06 |
| dougwig | #undo | 14:06 |
| rm_mobile | Lol | 14:06 |
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| blogan | #undo | 14:07 |
| blogan | :( | 14:07 |
| dougwig | evgenyf: does that answer your question? | 14:07 |
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| rm_mobile | They forgot item.get text() | 14:07 |
| rm_mobile | Darn autocorrect | 14:07 |
| dougwig | #undo | 14:08 |
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| evgenyf | dougwig: I think yes, thank you | 14:08 |
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| dougwig | #topic Kilo Specs repo is now open | 14:08 |
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| dougwig | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/neutron-specs/tree/specs/kilo | 14:08 |
| dougwig | i expect that we need to resubmit our v2 specs. | 14:08 |
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| dougwig | i won't auto-move those, since rm_mobile might kill me if i do so. :) | 14:09 |
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| blogan | lol | 14:09 |
| rm_mobile | Lol | 14:09 |
| rm_mobile | Nah, just nag you a lot | 14:09 |
| dougwig | oh, that might be worth it. | 14:09 |
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| blogan | the lbaas v2 spec could definitely use some updating, probably a good time to do that | 14:09 |
| xgerman | +1 | 14:09 |
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| dougwig | one more tidbit from neutron: | 14:10 |
| dougwig | #topic Juno Docs contributions | 14:10 |
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| dougwig | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NetworkingGuide/TOC | 14:10 |
| ptoohill | mornin' | 14:10 |
| dougwig | if you have content for the network guide, you can edit that wiki, and the docs folks will move it to the right place. there are several lbaas subsections. | 14:11 |
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| dougwig | #topic Requiring keystone v3? (rm_work) | 14:12 |
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| TrevorV | Forgive me, but what does TOC stand for? | 14:12 |
| dougwig | rm_mobile: take it away | 14:12 |
| rm_mobile | Uhh | 14:12 |
| dougwig | #undo | 14:12 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x25c7ed0> | 14:12 |
| rm_mobile | Uhh skip me and come back | 14:12 |
| dougwig | table of contents | 14:12 |
| dougwig | now they're starting to fill in the content. | 14:13 |
| dougwig | ok, skipping rm_mobile brings us to... | 14:13 |
| dougwig | #topic Open discussion | 14:13 |
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| blogan | evgenyf: is sam around? | 14:13 |
| rm_mobile | Lol | 14:13 |
| evgenyf | blogan: around, not on this IRC mmeting | 14:14 |
| sballe | Do we know who will be in Paris? I am hoping we can get some good discussions and resolution done while we are there face to face. | 14:14 |
| blogan | evgenyf: okay ill have to send him an email | 14:14 |
| rm_mobile | Any chance HP wants to sponsor me? :P | 14:14 |
| blogan | sballe: from rax it will just be ptoohill and I | 14:14 |
| * rm_mobile nudges sballe | 14:15 | |
| ptoohill | yay :/ | 14:15 |
| sballe | rm_mobile: Sorry HP already cur down on our attendance :-( | 14:15 |
| dougwig | sballe: i'll be there | 14:15 |
| rm_mobile | Sad :( | 14:15 |
| sballe | xgerman and I will be there too | 14:15 |
| sballe | rm_mobile: Anybody from Rackspace? | 14:15 |
| xgerman | rm_work did yoiunapply for the travel program? | 14:15 |
| xgerman | also Cisco gas one person less to pay for | 14:16 |
| rm_work | xgerman: no because I thought I was going via rackspace until after it closed | 14:16 |
| rm_work | I literally already had a plane ticket and hotel reservations | 14:16 |
| rm_work | then they said "nevermind cancel those" <_< | 14:16 |
| blogan | you still have both! | 14:16 |
| rm_work | true | 14:16 |
| blogan | you can pay it out of pocket | 14:16 |
| blogan | how committed are you to this project? | 14:17 |
| sballe | blogan: that is going to be expensive | 14:17 |
| rm_work | not quite that much <_< | 14:17 |
| dougwig | rm_work: do you just want to wear the minimum pieces of flare? | 14:17 |
| blogan | sballe: good way to weed out those who aren't committed fully | 14:17 |
| sballe | blogan: you are mean ;-) | 14:17 |
| blogan | i know :( | 14:17 |
| blogan | or :) | 14:18 |
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| ptoohill | blogan wouldnt pay for it himself, js | 14:18 |
| rm_work | oh, uhh | 14:18 |
| blogan | im not crazy! | 14:18 |
| rm_work | dougwig: you can come back to me i think | 14:18 |
| ptoohill | not committed | 14:18 |
| rm_work | since it looks like there's literally nothing else >_> | 14:18 |
| dougwig | #topic Requiring keystone v3? (rm_work) | 14:19 |
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| rm_work | Ok so | 14:19 |
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| rm_work | Keystone versioning is confusing, but, it looks like Trusts is actually an extension, and is TECHNICALLY available via v2 Identity API | 14:19 |
| rm_work | so if you don't expose Identity v3, but you do have the Trusts extension, it should be fine | 14:20 |
| rm_work | though it is slightly less efficient (two round-trips instead of one) | 14:20 |
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| rm_work | and as far as Horizon, it looks like via Horizon it will use an actual key (since the user has just given it -- Horizon does a key-hijack essentially, it seems) | 14:21 |
| dougwig | as long as we hide that nuance in a library call, creating LB's isn't a common operation, so i don't care if it's five round trips. | 14:21 |
| rm_work | so creating a Trust via a Horizon popup if necessary shouldn't be a big deal | 14:21 |
| rm_work | dougwig: kk, assuming we don't have to fetch TLS info on EVERY update | 14:21 |
| dougwig | does that mean horizon will submit a key instead of a barbican id? | 14:21 |
| xgerman | oh, ok, so they just hijack the ticket | 14:21 |
| xgerman | ah key | 14:21 |
| rm_work | dougwig: no, I mean | 14:22 |
| rm_work | Horizon hijacks the user token from the user's login to the UI, and uses that | 14:22 |
| rm_work | the concern was possibly only having access to a Trust token (which wouldn't be able to create further Trusts) | 14:22 |
| rm_work | anywho | 14:22 |
| dougwig | ahh, got it. | 14:22 |
| rm_work | Hopefully everyone involved has the Trust extension in keystone available in their deployments, or can make that so? | 14:23 |
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| xgerman | that is a good question | 14:23 |
| rm_work | If so, we shouldn't have a problem | 14:23 |
| dougwig | i don't see a problem making trusts a requirement for tis support. does anyone else? | 14:23 |
| xgerman | sballe and I will check | 14:23 |
| rm_work | Also, the authing is going to be a little bit complicated, it's going to have to be a plugin system anyway just to do this auth | 14:23 |
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| rm_work | since Rackspace doesn't technically use Keystone in our deployment <_< | 14:23 |
| rm_work | and some people will use v2 and some will use v3 of Keystone Identity API | 14:24 |
| dougwig | does this all work with heat? | 14:24 |
| rm_work | if the user has set up Heat, they've already created one Trust for Heat, so we'll have to assume they are capable enough to create a second for us | 14:24 |
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| rm_work | Heat won't be able to automatically create a Trust for us | 14:24 |
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| rm_work | so any Heat templates will just have to assume the Trust was created and fail if not | 14:25 |
| rm_work | since it's a once-per-account thing it shouldn't be a huge deal I think | 14:25 |
| morganfainberg | rm_work, Trusts in Keystone V2 are not *really* well supported | 14:25 |
| rm_work | morganfainberg: yeah, I'm relying on info from https://bugs.launchpad.net/keystone/+bug/1331884 | 14:25 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1331884 in keystone "A V2 token from trust cannot be generated with user/pass" [Wishlist,In progress] | 14:25 |
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| morganfainberg | rm_work, just as a quick bit of insight, they are there, but have oddities. V3 is the right answer. | 14:26 |
| morganfainberg | rm_work, that bug is on my short list of "probably don't want to accept it" | 14:26 |
| rm_work | morganfainberg: ok... well, there are a lot of things that are the "right answer", but I don't know if we can manage all of them :) | 14:26 |
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| rm_work | morganfainberg: definitely value further input though, if you have ideas... | 14:26 |
| morganfainberg | i tend to view v2 as frozen, no new features. that falls into the category of new features. i've held off on squashing it though for a bit. | 14:27 |
| rm_work | so we have one recommendation for Keystone Identity v3 API requirement | 14:27 |
| rm_work | morganfainberg: so that doesn't *actually* work yet? | 14:27 |
| morganfainberg | v2 tokens directly from username/password in trusts? | 14:27 |
| morganfainberg | no. | 14:27 |
| rm_work | morganfainberg: i think I read the bug as "you have to do it this slow way, could you fix it so it's one call" | 14:27 |
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| rm_work | ok, so it's *not possible* yet, and *would* look like that, if implemented | 14:27 |
| morganfainberg | you can't do it as 1 call, you need token and then exchange the token for the trust | 14:27 |
| rm_work | whelp, back to v3 req | 14:28 |
| rm_work | morganfainberg: err wait, so was I correct or not? | 14:28 |
| morganfainberg | ok, sorry :) | 14:28 |
| morganfainberg | you *can* uses trusts with V2, you cannot do it as one pass | 14:28 |
| rm_work | right | 14:28 |
| morganfainberg | you can only get trust tokens via a token. | 14:28 |
| rm_work | so that's "fine" if it's what it takes to keep from introducing a hard requirement on Identity v3 in Neutron | 14:29 |
| rm_work | I think we'd all probably like to avoid that if possible | 14:29 |
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| rm_work | since this isn't just for neutron-lbaas, it's going into neutron/common | 14:29 |
| morganfainberg | we're talking for Kilo cycle right? | 14:29 |
| rm_work | yes | 14:29 |
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| dougwig | i'm thinking a broader audience with the ML might be warranted here. i know you got very few replies with your first open ended query, but maybe a focused question/warning along the lines of 'lbaas/tls is going to require the user to set a trust just for lbaas, is this a problem?", targeted at neutron/heat/keystone, will get more eyeballs on it. | 14:29 |
| morganfainberg | ok. well quick recommendation, V3, if you're using trusts is a much better target | 14:30 |
| rm_work | yeah I'll include like, every tag I can think of | 14:30 |
| rm_work | and basically just resend that email with a few updates about the v3 req | 14:30 |
| morganfainberg | and for Kilo my expectation is we will get everyone off V2, i am hoping V2 can be deprecated formally within the nex cycle or two | 14:30 |
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| blogan | rm_work: make it as brief as you can, people tend to not read lengthy emails | 14:31 |
| dougwig | blogan: +1 | 14:31 |
| morganfainberg | but that is a lofty goal, so, whatever you're deciding I recomment you make sure it works both v2/v3 | 14:31 |
| morganfainberg | if at all possible. | 14:31 |
| rm_work | k... | 14:31 |
| rm_work | funtimes | 14:31 |
| rm_work | that's it for me then I think | 14:31 |
| xgerman | back top Open Discussion | 14:32 |
| rm_work | morganfainberg: though if you wanted to accept that bug, i wouldn't complain :) | 14:32 |
| dougwig | #topic Open discussion | 14:32 |
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| xgerman | rm_work you might want to start a kickstarter for your Paris trip | 14:32 |
| rm_work | lol | 14:32 |
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| rm_work | xgerman: I don't know if that's against their EULA | 14:32 |
| morganfainberg | rm_work, i've been waiting on it, i honestly don't want to encourage new "functionality" to v2. but it's on my list for needs eval. can't just squash it | 14:32 |
| morganfainberg | rm_work, gofundme ;) | 14:32 |
| rm_work | but if not.... maybe? :P | 14:32 |
| morganfainberg | rm_work, or indigogo instead :P | 14:32 |
| rm_work | heh | 14:33 |
| rm_work | morganfainberg: i'm +1ing it | 14:33 |
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| morganfainberg | so in short, go ahead and use v2 trusts, but it is highly highly recommended you use v3 instead :). [next cycle or two for formal deprecation means likely L or M] | 14:34 |
| * morganfainberg lets you guys get back to your discussion. | 14:34 | |
| xgerman | thanks morganfainberg, very good info! | 14:34 |
| dougwig | thanks for your input today morganfainberg | 14:34 |
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| dougwig | any other topics to discuss besides rm_work's paris woes? if not, we'll end early today. | 14:35 |
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| dougwig | ok, bye folks... | 14:36 |
| ptoohill | Guess I may have missed the answer, but are we re-creating the CR's? | 14:36 |
| sballe | bye | 14:36 |
| ptoohill | srry, im slow >< | 14:36 |
| dougwig | ptoohill: most have been carried over: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/lbaas_reviews | 14:36 |
| blogan | ptoohill yes | 14:36 |
| xgerman | it looks to me like we are resetting the clock | 14:36 |
| dougwig | drivers and specs need to be done by their original authors | 14:36 |
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| ptoohill | k, got further details from aharwell. Thanks guys | 14:37 |
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| dougwig | cool | 14:37 |
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| dougwig | anything else from folks? | 14:37 |
| ptoohill | rm_mobile* :P | 14:37 |
| TrevorV | \o | 14:37 |
| xgerman | bye | 14:37 |
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| johnsom | bye | 14:37 |
| dougwig | bye | 14:38 |
| ptoohill | adios | 14:38 |
| dougwig | #endmeeting | 14:38 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 2 14:38:09 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_lbaas/2014/neutron_lbaas.2014-10-02-14.00.html | 14:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_lbaas/2014/neutron_lbaas.2014-10-02-14.00.txt | 14:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_lbaas/2014/neutron_lbaas.2014-10-02-14.00.log.html | 14:38 |
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| eglynn | #startmeeting ceilometer | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 2 15:00:11 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eglynn. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer' | 15:00 |
| cdent | o/ | 15:00 |
| eglynn | hey, y'all | 15:00 |
| sileht | o/ | 15:00 |
| ildikov | o/ | 15:00 |
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| eglynn | #topic Juno close-out | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Juno close-out (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:01 | |
| DinaBelova | o/ | 15:01 |
| eglynn | so RC1 is in the bag! :) | 15:02 |
| fabiog_ | o/ | 15:02 |
| nealph | o/ | 15:02 |
| eglynn | ... or tagged and bagged as the cool kids would say :) | 15:02 |
| eglynn | #link https://launchpad.net/ceilometer/+milestone/juno-rc1 | 15:02 |
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| eglynn | so the final juno tag will be based on this | 15:02 |
| eglynn | *if* we don't find any showstoppers in the mean time | 15:03 |
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| _nadya_ | o/ | 15:03 |
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| eglynn | if we do need an RC2, then the fix would have to be landed on master first then backported to proposed/juno branch | 15:04 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, I just wanted to point one interesting bug | 15:04 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: shoot | 15:04 |
| DinaBelova | possibly it'll be a huge pain if we won't fix it | 15:04 |
| * DinaBelova searching | 15:04 | |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-ceilometerclient/+bug/1357343 | 15:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1357343 in python-ceilometerclient "ceilometer-alarm-evaluator fails after sometime with giving 401" [Medium,In progress] | 15:04 |
| DinaBelova | it's the issue having roots in the our client updated to the oslo common code | 15:05 |
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| DinaBelova | so now after long time alarm evaluator running | 15:05 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: token expiry? | 15:06 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, yeah | 15:06 |
| DinaBelova | :) | 15:06 |
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| eglynn | meh! we had similar problems before with the ceiloclient, which were fixed like a year ago | 15:06 |
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| eglynn | OK, that definitely needs to be fixed | 15:06 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, yeah, so there was the change by me merged to oslo-incubator | 15:06 |
| DinaBelova | and now it's trying to be updated in the ceilo client | 15:07 |
| DinaBelova | one moment | 15:07 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: so we will need an RC2 in that case | 15:07 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, here it is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/125058/ | 15:07 |
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| DinaBelova | although it's kind of blocked for now with gordc change | 15:08 |
| gordc | eglynn: are clients under the same release rules? | 15:08 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, it won't be needed the rc2 | 15:08 |
| DinaBelova | it'll be ceilo client change | 15:08 |
| gordc | DinaBelova: my change merged... but i think we need to properly resync that item. | 15:08 |
| DinaBelova | but we need to merge this asap | 15:08 |
| DinaBelova | and create new ceilo client release | 15:09 |
| eglynn | a-ha, I see | 15:09 |
| DinaBelova | for the installations | 15:09 |
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| eglynn | gordc, DinaBelova: the clients were supposed to be frozen before juno-rc1, but agreed, we'll definitely need a 1.0.12 to get this fix | 15:09 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, a-ha, ok | 15:09 |
| DinaBelova | gordc, good to know it'll be merged | 15:09 |
| prad | eglynn, could we please consider this for juno rc https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1374012 | 15:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1374012 in ceilometer "Ceilometer polls lbaas resources even when the neutron enabled and disabled lbaas" [Medium,Fix committed] | 15:09 |
| eglynn | prad: yes, we should get that in | 15:10 |
| prad | ty sir | 15:11 |
| eglynn | OK looks like we will need both a new ceiloclient release and an RC2 | 15:11 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn, yeah, with this bug - yes | 15:11 |
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| gordc | there's two other bugs i've tagged with rc-potential: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bugs?field.tag=juno-rc-potential | 15:12 |
| eglynn | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1369124 was the one that we thought was fixed in RC1 right? | 15:12 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1369124 in ceilometer "syslog in gate-swift-dsvm-functional full of ceilometer errors" [Medium,In progress] | 15:12 |
| gordc | eglynn: yeah, that was the one i where i fixed nothing... or i fixed half of it. | 15:13 |
| eglynn | yeah, let's try to get our value in cutting an RC2 and get all 3 fixes in | 15:13 |
| gordc | eglynn: agreed. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ceilometer/+bug/1375568 actually only affects juno (it's a py26 related bug) | 15:14 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1375568 in ceilometer "Python2.6: Error importing module ceilometer.ipmi.platform.intel_node_manager: 'module' object has no attribute 'OrderedDict'" [Medium,In progress] | 15:14 |
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| eglynn | let's aim for EoD Monday for all fixes landed if possible, so that I can request the RC2 in the rel mgr 1:1 on Tuesday at 11:45UTC | 15:14 |
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| gordc | two patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124686/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/124916/ | 15:16 |
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| DinaBelova | gordc, a-ha, ok | 15:16 |
| eglynn | one last thing about the juno closeout | 15:16 |
| eglynn | I need to report back to the TC on the gap analysis outcome | 15:17 |
| eglynn | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Governance/TechnicalCommittee/Ceilometer_Gap_Coverage | 15:17 |
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| eglynn | I've marked pretty much everything as completed | 15:18 |
| eglynn | ... except one task under Tempest: "curate the ceilometer Tempest coverage to ensure it does not become persistently problematic in the gate" | 15:18 |
| eglynn | ... which I guess could be interpreted as an ongoing requirement in any case | 15:18 |
| gordc | eglynn: seems accurate to me. | 15:18 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, yes | 15:18 |
| ildikov | eglynn: the #4 in the docco is not done yet | 15:19 |
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| cdent | there's incremental progress with getting the USE_SCREEN=False stuff turned on which is supposed to help with the problem with services sometimes not starting | 15:19 |
| ildikov | eglynn: but I don't think that currently it would hurt anyone though | 15:19 |
| eglynn | ildikov: a-ha, k, I'll try to "finesse" that one :) | 15:19 |
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| cdent | there was a huge mess trying to get that stuff backported to icehouse (you may have seen Sean ranty email) but it has made it through just today | 15:19 |
| cdent | the backport was required to get grenade working | 15:20 |
| cdent | in the end this ought to result in more stable ceilo in tempest | 15:20 |
| ildikov | eglynn: thanks, well, it's still better to have info on more places, than nowhere :) | 15:20 |
| eglynn | cdent: nice work! I didn't see that ranty mail, but I'll read after the meeting, thanks for the heads-up | 15:21 |
| cdent | the gist is that icehouse in the gate is fuxored | 15:21 |
| cdent | and nobody cares | 15:21 |
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| DinaBelova | cdent, heh.. | 15:21 |
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| eglynn | DinaBelova: I wondering also about "land the stalled Tempest patches" task given that the nova notification test was then skipped? | 15:21 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: ... your unskip patch didn't land yet, amiright? | 15:22 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, that's true.. | 15:22 |
| gordc | DinaBelova: have you tried rebasing/running it again recently? | 15:22 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, here it is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/115212/ | 15:22 |
| DinaBelova | gordc, will do today | 15:22 |
| DinaBelova | had a hot weeks | 15:23 |
| gordc | DinaBelova: cool cool, np | 15:23 |
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| eglynn | cool, it would great to get that landed | 15:23 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, yeah, for sure | 15:23 |
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| eglynn | anything else juno related? | 15:24 |
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| eglynn | #topic TSDaaS/gnocchi status | 15:24 |
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| eglynn | jd__: the floor is yours! | 15:25 |
| jd__ | hey | 15:25 |
| jd__ | good progress again this week | 15:25 |
| jd__ | we now have merged all archive policy stuff | 15:25 |
| eglynn | cool :) | 15:26 |
| DinaBelova | yay! | 15:26 |
| jd__ | we have Keystone middleware enabled by default | 15:26 |
| jd__ | (and support loading more middleware if needed) | 15:26 |
| jd__ | sileht progressed on the Ceilometer dispatcher | 15:26 |
| * eglynn will finally rebase his influx patch to try to emulate the archive_policy logic | 15:26 | |
| jd__ | and started working on aggregation | 15:26 |
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| jd__ | and we fixed a bunch of bugs and race condition in the tests | 15:26 |
| jd__ | so it's getting pretty solid at this stage | 15:27 |
| sileht | jd__, thx for the resume :) | 15:27 |
| eglynn | yeah, interesting discussion on the mean-of-means versus mean-of-raw-data on the cross-entity aggregation review | 15:27 |
| jd__ | we also now gate on py34-postgresql | 15:27 |
| jd__ | (we can't gate on py34-mysql because mysql does not work with Python 3) | 15:27 |
| eglynn | a-ha, so can that job be skipped? | 15:28 |
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| eglynn | ok, we only have a py34-postgres right now | 15:29 |
| eglynn | so no need to skip, cool, got it | 15:29 |
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| jd__ | yup | 15:29 |
| jd__ | also I'm working on the tooz IPC issues that sileht discovered | 15:29 |
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| sileht | jd__, this one is not easy | 15:30 |
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| eglynn | BTW amalagon is working with the new archive policy support in her gnocchi custom aggregators | 15:31 |
| eglynn | (... so that she can select the most granular data available when aggregating across periods, to avoid the mean-of-means distortion where possible) | 15:31 |
| jd__ | sileht: finger crossed I'll fix it :D | 15:31 |
| sileht | jd__, I guess we can fix it, if gnocchi run as standalone (even with multiple worker), but for guys that will use wsgi, it's not possible | 15:32 |
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| jd__ | sileht: I'm actually trying to fix in tooz directly | 15:32 |
| eglynn | does that issue only manifest with the posix_ipc driver for tooz? | 15:32 |
| sileht | eglynn, yep | 15:32 |
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| eglynn | would we be recommending the tooz/ZK driver instead for production deployments? | 15:33 |
| sileht | once you have more than one gnocchi node you don't have the choice | 15:33 |
| sileht | (or tooz/memcache driver) | 15:33 |
| jd__ | yeah for now IPC is only for one instance of Gnocchi running or in the unit tests | 15:34 |
| eglynn | so really IPC approach is mainly intended for really small deployments and the tests? | 15:34 |
| jd__ | but I hope to fix that in tooz directly | 15:34 |
| jd__ | eglynn: yes, one node or tests | 15:34 |
| eglynn | cool, got it, thanks! | 15:34 |
| eglynn | anything else on gnocchi? | 15:35 |
| eglynn | #topic Tempest status | 15:35 |
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| eglynn | main thing here would be to get that nova notification test unskipped before the TC review if poss | 15:35 |
| eglynn | (slated for the next TC meeting, Oct 7th) | 15:36 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, I'll rebase it | 15:36 |
| DinaBelova | let's give it a try | 15:36 |
| DinaBelova | :P) | 15:36 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: great, thanks! | 15:36 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, np | 15:37 |
| eglynn | #topic kilo summit planning | 15:37 |
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| DinaBelova | yay, kilo sumit soon :) | 15:37 |
| eglynn | so I got confirmation that we'll definitely be down from 10 to 6 slots for Paris | 15:38 |
| DinaBelova | :( | 15:38 |
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| DinaBelova | that's akward... | 15:38 |
| DinaBelova | but anyway :) | 15:38 |
| eglynn | apparently the average cut was 33% as there's one less day of formal design sessions | 15:38 |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn, and that organised 'pod' day, yeah? | 15:38 |
| eglynn | but that was weighted by a rough metric of "project activity" over juno | 15:38 |
| eglynn | i.e. a metric of BPs/bugs/reviews etc. | 15:39 |
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| eglynn | so we got a slightly larger cut | 15:39 |
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| eglynn | I guess becuase some of the focus was on gnocchi | 15:39 |
| cdent | :( | 15:39 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, wow! i did not know they were using these stats | 15:39 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: me neither, until I asked how the decision was made | 15:39 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, a-ha, ok, got it | 15:39 |
| eglynn | the upside is we'll have a full day on Friday of the "contributor meetup" ... i.e. the pod++ | 15:40 |
| cdent | that's going to be yet anothe perverse incentive | 15:40 |
| cdent | "I get more goodies if I make lots of useless bps/bugs/reviews" | 15:40 |
| eglynn | cdent: yeap, as if we didn't already have enough of those ... | 15:40 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, I also wantd to note that ityaptin is preparing the lab to test gnocchi (speaking about the performance part, but who knows, probably we'll find some other issues) | 15:41 |
| eglynn | enough of those perverse incentive I meant ... as opposed to useless BPs ;) | 15:41 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: coolness :) | 15:41 |
| cdent | :) | 15:41 |
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| eglynn | we'll discuss concrete topics next week | 15:43 |
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| eglynn | (as agreed last week) | 15:43 |
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| eglynn | moving on ... | 15:44 |
| ildikov | I cannot attend the next week's meeting :( | 15:44 |
| eglynn | #topic OPW ideas | 15:44 |
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| eglynn | ildikov: ok, we can maybe push it out a week, I'll check when the schedule needs to be formalized | 15:44 |
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| ildikov | eglynn: cool, thanks | 15:45 |
| eglynn | on the OPW, we've a good record of diversity promotion on this project :) | 15:45 |
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| eglynn | two previous OPW interns (Terri & Ana) and another volunteer interested for the next round | 15:45 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, here is the etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ceilometer-opw-ideas | 15:45 |
| DinaBelova | so let's fill it :) | 15:46 |
| eglynn | DinaBelova: thanks! ... exactly | 15:46 |
| DinaBelova | I hope to spend time tomorrow for this thing | 15:46 |
| DinaBelova | :) | 15:46 |
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| eglynn | if anyone has any project ideas, no matter how wacky, please do drop a quick description onto that etherpad | 15:47 |
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| eglynn | to give a sense of the scoping ... Terri worked on adding group_by semantics to the ceilo v2 API, Ana is working on period-spanning stats for gnocchi | 15:47 |
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| eglynn | thanks to DinaBelova for stepping up to mentor in this upcoming cycle! | 15:48 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, np :) | 15:48 |
| DinaBelova | I'd love to try :) | 15:48 |
| DinaBelova | I hope I'll be useful in this role | 15:49 |
| jd__ | I've one for Gnocchi I think | 15:49 |
| eglynn | jd__: nice one! | 15:49 |
| DinaBelova | jd__, it should be telemetry :) gnocchi or ceilo - it does not matter imho | 15:50 |
| jd__ | some people expressed interest in having a Ceph driver for Gnocchi | 15:50 |
| DinaBelova | jd__, wow :) who are they? :) | 15:50 |
| DinaBelova | just interested | 15:50 |
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| DinaBelova | :) | 15:50 |
| eglynn | direct native ceph, as opposed to ceph-sitting-behind-swift? | 15:51 |
| jd__ | eglynn: yes | 15:51 |
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| eglynn | cool, that sounds really interesting | 15:51 |
| DinaBelova | jd__, that's interesting thing btw | 15:51 |
| DinaBelova | eglynn, indeed | 15:51 |
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| jd__ | I talked about that with nijaba_ TBH | 15:51 |
| DinaBelova | jd__, a-ha, ok | 15:51 |
| eglynn | jd__: would it be an appropriate level of complexity/challenge for an intern? | 15:52 |
| jd__ | eglynn: good question, I don't know | 15:52 |
| * nijaba_ confirms | 15:52 | |
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| DinaBelova | eglynn, speaking about the technical thing - yeah, it would be | 15:52 |
| DinaBelova | but it won't be clear OpenStack task to be honest | 15:52 |
| jd__ | I think it is technically | 15:52 |
| eglynn | cool, esp. if the intern has a bit of storage-foo already | 15:53 |
| jd__ | yeah it's kind of a mix, though it's still writing code for OpenStack | 15:53 |
| jd__ | like it would be writing a driver for Nova or Neutron | 15:53 |
| jd__ | and since it would be based on Carbonara, it wouldn't be uber complicated too | 15:53 |
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| ildikov | looks closer than the etherpad after the first quick read | 15:54 |
| DinaBelova | ildikov, yeah, for sure | 15:54 |
| eglynn | cool, so the main challenge would be mapping the swift client semantics onto the equivalent under the ceph API? | 15:54 |
| jd__ | eglynn: likely | 15:54 |
| DinaBelova | ildikov, I just hope to find even better variant | 15:54 |
| ildikov | is there a deadline for deciding the task? | 15:54 |
| cdent | Given recent hullabaloo about "vendory" stuff is a ceph project ideal? | 15:55 |
| eglynn | ildikov: application are due by Oct 22 | 15:55 |
| ildikov | DinaBelova: well, it's never an easy task, I guess we could investigate a bit the Ceilo-Gnocchi integration area, maybe it could give some more tasks, I'm not sure now | 15:56 |
| eglynn | cdent: ceph being open-source mitigates the vendory feel | 15:56 |
| eglynn | ? | 15:56 |
| ildikov | eglynn: cool, thanks | 15:56 |
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| eglynn | ildikov: but that the application deadline for the intern herself | 15:57 |
| ildikov | eglynn: and they choose project or task? | 15:57 |
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| chmouel | eglynn: the difference between the two is one using rest api and the native rados library is not (it's a library calling directly the ceph nodes) | 15:58 |
| eglynn | ildikov: yeah ... to be realistic, the idea would have to be firmed up before then as the intern applies for a particular project idea | 15:58 |
| cdent | eglynn: that's certainly an argument to make, I suppose, but some people would probably not agree and what's the win of just ceph v swift over ceph? | 15:58 |
| chmouel | eglynn: but i don't think this is hard | 15:58 |
| ildikov | eglynn: hmm, then we're already late :) | 15:58 |
| eglynn | chmouel: a-ha, got it, thanks! | 15:58 |
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| eglynn | ildikov: yeah, sooner the better re. the ideas | 15:59 |
| cdent | I don't have a position on this, just observing. | 15:59 |
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| ildikov | eglynn: yeap, sure, got it | 15:59 |
| eglynn | looks like this ceph work has definite potential though | 15:59 |
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| cdent | time has run out | 16:00 |
| eglynn | anything else on letting a thousand diverse flowers bloom in the open source world? :) | 16:00 |
| eglynn | k, let's skip open discussion this week, the shot-clock has beaten us | 16:00 |
| eglynn | thanks for your time folks! | 16:00 |
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| eglynn | #endmeeting ceilometer | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 2 16:01:02 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-10-02-15.00.html | 16:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-10-02-15.00.txt | 16:01 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2014/ceilometer.2014-10-02-15.00.log.html | 16:01 |
| imendel | startmeeting nfv | 16:01 |
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| imendel | #chair russellb | 16:01 |
| imendel | #chair bauzas | 16:01 |
| bauzas | \o | 16:02 |
| imendel | who is here for nfv sub group? | 16:02 |
| bauzas | imendel: you forgot to start the meeting | 16:02 |
| bauzas | #startmeeting nfv | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 2 16:02:24 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bauzas. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nfv)" | 16:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nfv' | 16:02 |
| bauzas | #chair imendel | 16:02 |
| openstack | Current chairs: bauzas imendel | 16:02 |
| imendel | i think i did.. | 16:02 |
| imendel | tnx | 16:02 |
| bauzas | nope, the "#" was missing :) | 16:02 |
| bauzas | I leave you drive the meeting | 16:02 |
| imendel | ..:) | 16:02 |
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| imendel | who is here for nfv? | 16:03 |
| bauzas | so \o | 16:03 |
| colintd | colintd from Metaswitch, standing in for cloudon1 who can't make the meeting | 16:03 |
| imendel | #info agenda for today https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nfv-meeting-agenda | 16:03 |
| imendel | let's start? | 16:03 |
| imendel | first topic in the agenda is action items | 16:04 |
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| imendel | colindt, can you update on the vlan trunking? | 16:04 |
| imendel | cloudon1 has an ai on it | 16:05 |
| colintd | Calum sent a note to the list yesterday detailing the usage case | 16:05 |
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| colintd | Essentially vlan trunking provides a clean means of getting customer traffic into an NFV app with separation | 16:05 |
| imendel | I guess we shall review and discuss. Anyone has a comment or want to discuss it today? | 16:06 |
| colintd | Customer traffic comes into the service provider network over a range of access means, and the SP then dumps each customer's traffic into its own VLAN | 16:06 |
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| imendel | this is for public networks or tenants ones? | 16:07 |
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| colintd | It will depend on the application, but typically each VLAN will connect to a customer net | 16:08 |
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| colintd | So the trunk allows all the customer nets to be presented to a VNF over a single interface, with no reconfig required as nets added and removed | 16:09 |
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| imendel | ok, so this would be the main use case for it i guess. | 16:10 |
| colintd | Yes, a very typical use. Similar uses exist between SPs carrying end-to-end customer traffic. | 16:11 |
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| imendel | ok, tnx. I suggest we read the use case send and discuss further if needed in the ml | 16:12 |
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| colintd | makes sense | 16:12 |
| imendel | next topic in the agenda is review the design summit plans | 16:12 |
| imendel | •#topic ALL please review relevant project design summit plans (Nova, Neutron, Heat, Glance, etc.) | 16:12 |
| imendel | #topic ALL please review relevant project design summit plans (Nova, Neutron, Heat, Glance, etc.) | 16:12 |
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| bauzas | #undo | 16:13 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x27fda90> | 16:13 |
| imendel | tnx bauzas... still learning :) | 16:13 |
| bauzas | imendel: sorry this is part of the topic action items yet :) | 16:13 |
| bauzas | imendel: no worries | 16:13 |
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| imendel | anyone review the plans for the summit? | 16:14 |
| bauzas | so, I guess it's hard to see a commitment on that action :) | 16:14 |
| imendel | yep... | 16:14 |
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| imendel | we cn move to the next so | 16:14 |
| bauzas | sure | 16:15 |
| imendel | keshava here? | 16:15 |
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| bauzas | imendel: I don't think so | 16:16 |
| imendel | i guess no. so will follow up next week on service insertion | 16:16 |
| bauzas | let's put him again an action item | 16:16 |
| bauzas | I leave you doing that ... :) | 16:16 |
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| bauzas | # action owner to do sth | 16:17 |
| imendel | #action for keshava to follow up on last week action (service insertion and chaining use case) | 16:17 |
| imendel | I guess we can move to next topic... | 16:17 |
| bauzas | sure | 16:17 |
| imendel | #topic Juno status | 16:17 |
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| bauzas | imendel: tbp, this is #action someone to do sth | 16:18 |
| bauzas | but that works too | 16:18 |
| bauzas | so, Nova RC1 is landed | 16:18 |
| bauzas | haven't seen any communaction from ttx about Neutron RC1 | 16:18 |
| bauzas | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-October/047539.html | 16:19 |
| ttx | bauzas: open-kulo change still gating | 16:19 |
| bauzas | #info Nova RC1 is tarballed | 16:20 |
| bauzas | #info no status about Neutron RC1 | 16:20 |
| bauzas | ttx: you mean about Neutron ? | 16:20 |
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| bauzas | #undo | 16:20 |
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| bauzas | #info Neutron Kilo trunk not yet open (on gate atm) | 16:21 |
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| imendel | other updates on Juno? | 16:22 |
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| bauzas | imendel: I haven't followed that much, but it seems all necessary patches landed for RC1 | 16:22 |
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| bauzas | I was seeing some ndipanov's bugfixes, dunno the exact status about it | 16:22 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: ^? | 16:23 |
| bauzas | talking about NUMA blueprints | 16:23 |
| ndipanov | bauzas, what? it works like a charm | 16:23 |
| bauzas | ndipanov: oh cool | 16:23 |
| ndipanov | 12 embarrassing bugs later | 16:23 |
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| ndipanov | :) | 16:23 |
| bauzas | nice so RC1 is NUMA happy | 16:23 |
| ndipanov | it should be yeah | 16:24 |
| bauzas | cool | 16:24 |
| bauzas | imendel: that's it for me then | 16:24 |
| imendel | ok, I guess it's the current status. Do we want to follow up next week too? | 16:24 |
| bauzas | imendel: don't think so, RC2 is on its way but not including patches from our side | 16:25 |
| imendel | ok | 16:25 |
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| imendel | btw sriov is also happy in RC1? | 16:25 |
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| bauzas | baoli: you there ? | 16:25 |
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| baoli | bauzas: Hi | 16:26 |
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| bauzas | baoli: hi, imendel was querying about SRIOV status for RC1 | 16:26 |
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| bauzas | baoli: do you have anything missing from RC1 ? | 16:26 |
| bauzas | #info potential Nova RC status is here https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=juno-rc-potential | 16:27 |
| baoli | bauzas, I think that we are in good shape in RC1. | 16:28 |
| imendel | cool | 16:28 |
| bauzas | baoli: cool | 16:28 |
| baoli | bauzas, there is bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1370348, which I'm thinking to make it RC2 if possible | 16:28 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1370348 in nova "Using macvtap vnic_type is not working with vif_type=hw_veb" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 16:28 |
| baoli | bauzas, what's the deadline for RC2? | 16:29 |
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| bauzas | baoli: good question | 16:29 |
| bauzas | baoli: I don't know yet | 16:29 |
| bauzas | that's the rolling ballet for releases candidates | 16:29 |
| imendel | i guess we can move to next topic? | 16:30 |
| bauzas | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Cycle#Pre-release_.28Release_Candidates_dance.29 | 16:30 |
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| imendel | #topic Kilo planning | 16:31 |
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| bauzas | baoli: if you want to ship the bugfix into RC2, I would suggest you to discuss that with johnthetubaguy and mikal | 16:31 |
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| bauzas | baoli: it depends if it's a really regression bug | 16:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | baoli: makre sure it gets the tag anyways | 16:32 |
| bauzas | baoli: or it will be shipped into the Kilo trunk | 16:32 |
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| bauzas | imendel: now, dates have been confirmed for Kilo | 16:32 |
| baoli | bauzas, it's not a regression. | 16:33 |
| bauzas | imendel: let me find the email | 16:33 |
| imendel | tnx | 16:33 |
| baoli | johnthetubaguy: what tag should it get? | 16:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | baoli: juno-rc-potential | 16:34 |
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| imendel | meanwhile see link to the active bp list | 16:34 |
| imendel | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Teams/NFV#Active_Blueprints | 16:34 |
| bauzas | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/047128.html | 16:34 |
| bauzas | #undo | 16:35 |
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| baoli | johnthetubaguy: thanks. | 16:35 |
| bauzas | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-September/047128.html Kilo release schedule | 16:35 |
| bauzas | imendel: now, we need to figure out which bps are good candidates for Kilo | 16:36 |
| imendel | any inputs on bp for Kilo... | 16:36 |
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| imendel | We discuss in the past the scheduling bps. any insights from the team? | 16:38 |
| bauzas | imendel: well, at least some specs have already been approved | 16:38 |
| bauzas | imendel: those are good candidates for being worked on first | 16:38 |
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| bauzas | imendel: what do you mean by "scheduling bps" ? | 16:38 |
| imendel | bauzas: we have them listed? | 16:38 |
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| imendel | bauzas: all the related to scheduling decisions. like NIC state aware scheduling | 16:39 |
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| bauzas | imendel: well, if the spec has been rejected, it will take more time than other efforts | 16:40 |
| bauzas | imendel: because it needs to be approved first | 16:40 |
| bauzas | imendel: unless it's something quite handy to work on, like a new filter | 16:41 |
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| imendel | right. it was just an example. we have also Solver Scheduler - complex constraints scheduler with NFV use cases | 16:41 |
| bauzas | anyway, some triaging/prioritization has to be done for NFV, I leave sgordon and others identify the main efforts | 16:41 |
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| bauzas | imendel: both the examples you mention are not having a good consensus yet | 16:42 |
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| imendel | right. I was asking as I thought we discuss in the past it's an interesting idea. but if status is that still no consensus we can drop | 16:43 |
| imendel | for now | 16:43 |
| bauzas | anyway, I think that's it we can do for today re: priorities | 16:43 |
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| imendel | ok | 16:43 |
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| imendel | we want to discuss cross-projects session proposal | 16:44 |
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| bauzas | right | 16:44 |
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| imendel | any specific suggestions? I think ahoban had one last meeting | 16:46 |
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| imendel | but I don't see him around today | 16:46 |
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| imendel | bauzas: you recall? | 16:47 |
| bauzas | not that much | 16:47 |
| imendel | ok...:) | 16:47 |
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| bauzas | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-crossproject-summit-topics | 16:47 |
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| bauzas | let's discuss that maybe next week | 16:48 |
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| imendel | seems so... yes | 16:49 |
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| imendel | so last one for today is the ETSI gap analysis publication | 16:49 |
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| imendel | #topic: ETSI gap analysis publication | 16:50 |
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| bauzas | #undo | 16:50 |
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| bauzas | redo it | 16:50 |
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| imendel | #topic ETSI gap analysis publication | 16:50 |
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| bauzas | is this something public ? | 16:51 |
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| imendel | Does anyone has an update on it? | 16:51 |
| imendel | I can try and check for next week if no one here has | 16:51 |
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| bauzas | sure, I leave you take an action then | 16:52 |
| bauzas | I'm interested in the analysis :) | 16:52 |
| imendel | #action imendel to check on ETSI gap analysis publication | 16:52 |
| imendel | sure..:) | 16:52 |
| imendel | any other items for discussion ? | 16:53 |
| imendel | #topic other discussion | 16:53 |
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| bauzas | nice timing, 5 mins for opens | 16:53 |
| imendel | ...:) | 16:53 |
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| bauzas | hearing crickets... | 16:54 |
| imendel | I guess no other items... | 16:54 |
| imendel | so bauzas, tnx for your help today, i needed it :) | 16:55 |
| bauzas | no worries, you're in a good shape :) | 16:55 |
| imendel | tnx everyone | 16:55 |
| bauzas | thanks | 16:55 |
| imendel | #endmeeting | 16:55 |
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| mtreinish | #startmeeting qa | 22:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 2 22:02:09 2014 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mtreinish. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 22:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 22:02 |
| mtreinish | hi who do we have here today? | 22:02 |
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| masayukig | o/ | 22:02 |
| mtreinish | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Proposed_Agenda_for_October_2nd_2014_.282200_UTC.29 | 22:02 |
| mtreinish | ^^^ Today's agenda | 22:02 |
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| dpaterson | o/ | 22:03 |
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| mtreinish | ok well let's get started and maybe more people will trickle in | 22:04 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: hi | 22:04 |
| mtreinish | #topic tempest-2 tag (mtreinish) | 22:04 |
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| gmann | hi | 22:04 |
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| mtreinish | so now that havana is eol, I'm planning to push the next tag | 22:04 |
| mtreinish | but since the juno release is so close I was wondering if we should just wait until that | 22:05 |
| mtreinish | because it's not like this tag will really be dropping havana support (which would be the point of doing it at an eol) | 22:05 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I would vote to wait | 22:05 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I think we said at each release and halfway between, right? | 22:05 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz: no, each release and stable eol | 22:06 |
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| mtreinish | although based on the new stable schedule that would probably be about each release and halfway between | 22:06 |
| dkranz | ok | 22:06 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz: the idea was to frame which releases are supported by the tag | 22:07 |
| dtroyer | o/ here now… | 22:07 |
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| mtreinish | ok, well I guess since there are no nays I'll just make the tempest-2 tag at the Juno release | 22:08 |
| mtreinish | #info tempest-2 tag going to wait until the Juno release | 22:08 |
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| mtreinish | ok let's move on, unless someone else has something to add | 22:08 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Blueprints | 22:09 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/juno | 22:09 |
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| mtreinish | so we're basically at the end of the cycle | 22:10 |
| mtreinish | I'm thinking we'll end up deferring a bunch of open bps | 22:10 |
| mtreinish | although andreaf left a status update on some of the bps he's been working on | 22:10 |
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| mtreinish | and I think we'll be able to close out a couple more before the end of the cycle | 22:10 |
| mtreinish | that being said, does anyone have any status updates on an open bp? | 22:11 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: Does deferring really mean anything other than changing the release field? | 22:11 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz: no, not really | 22:11 |
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| mtreinish | although we haven't figure out how we want to handle the specs | 22:12 |
| dkranz | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tempest/+spec/client-checks-success is nearly done except for nova | 22:12 |
| mtreinish | some of the other projects are making people resubmit for new cycles, although I'm not sure we want to do that | 22:12 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: but since we are really talking about changing the client interface to return one value, there is no point in finishing it as is | 22:13 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: ok, yeah nova is the big one | 22:13 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: well doing the status code in the clients would still be a part of that right? | 22:13 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: But when we change to return one value, it touches all the same code in the tests, so might as well wait | 22:13 |
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| mtreinish | oh yeah, good point | 22:13 |
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| dkranz | I am eager to get going on removing _, x = () crap | 22:14 |
| dkranz | We now have a ton of it :) | 22:14 |
| masayukig | dkranz: agreed :) | 22:14 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: well, throw up a quick spec for the new return format. We may not need to wait until summit to start that | 22:14 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: sure, I will just propose what Sean put out | 22:15 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz: ok, I think I'll be fine with that | 22:16 |
| mtreinish | I think everyone else liked it too | 22:16 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: BTW, I am continuing to work on the config_tempest thing. But doing it in a way that works with all deployments is touch and needs a lot of internal testing. | 22:16 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: I will put up a WIP soon. | 22:16 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I mean is tough | 22:16 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: ok, I'm be curious to take a look at that | 22:17 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: By internal testing I mean on clouds that we don't have in the gate | 22:17 |
| mtreinish | especially because the spec never really went anywhere | 22:17 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I just went with the comments I had made | 22:17 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I needed to do it anywat | 22:17 |
| mtreinish | yeah, there were enough comments there from everyone to have a spec just from that :) | 22:18 |
| mtreinish | ok are there any other bps to discuss? | 22:18 |
| gmann | mtreinish: deferred BP can be worked immediately or needs to wait till tempest tag etc? | 22:19 |
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| mtreinish | gmann: work can continue, the tag is just a mark to coincide when we dropped or added support for a release | 22:19 |
| mtreinish | gmann: although I haven't deffered anything yet :) | 22:19 |
| gmann | ohk | 22:20 |
| mtreinish | masayukig: I think we're ready to close the scenario migration bp too, unless there's something we missed | 22:20 |
| mtreinish | the reason the cli tests still worked with the requirements drop is because devstack installs them from git, and the gate runs with site-packages=True | 22:20 |
| mtreinish | although the last part doesn't matter, because it's just looking for the binary :) | 22:21 |
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| masayukig | mtreinish: yeah, ok. I got it. I agree to close it. | 22:21 |
| mtreinish | masayukig: ok cool, can you take care of that on lp? | 22:22 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: that reminds me that we should really have a test that installs tempest on a machine that does not have devstack on it. | 22:22 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: the unit tests don't have devstack | 22:23 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: oh, ok. great. | 22:23 |
| mtreinish | ok, last call for any other bps to discuss | 22:24 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Devstack | 22:25 |
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| mtreinish | dtroyer: ok, you're up, anything new in the world of devstack? | 22:25 |
| dtroyer | I'm starting to get the cleanup-type stuff going before we cut the stable/juno release | 22:26 |
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| dtroyer | that includes cosmetic stuff like docs bugs and comment cleanups | 22:27 |
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| dtroyer | we are also backporting the re-worked process handling to stable/icehouse so we can get grenade off using screen. | 22:28 |
| dtroyer | (looking) I think they all finally merged… | 22:28 |
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| mtreinish | dtroyer: yeah I think they did | 22:28 |
| dtroyer | that's pretty much it | 22:28 |
| mtreinish | dtroyer: ok cool, thanks | 22:29 |
| mtreinish | dtroyer: oh, I was curious has there been any updates on making devstack.org more up-to-date? | 22:29 |
| mtreinish | someone was asking about that recently | 22:29 |
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| dtroyer | that's basically me doing the update by hand… | 22:31 |
| dtroyer | work has begun to move the hosting to infra-managed server so that should eventually be automated | 22:31 |
| mtreinish | dtroyer: sry, I meant the infra-hosted automation part | 22:31 |
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| dtroyer | ah, ok. not sure, anteaya has been handling that. I understand the domain transfer has happened so they're willing to do something now | 22:33 |
| anteaya | o/ | 22:33 |
| anteaya | what did I do? | 22:33 |
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| dtroyer | anteaya: devstack.org rehosting | 22:34 |
| anteaya | yes the devstack.org under infra thing? | 22:34 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: yeah, is there anything going on there? | 22:34 |
| anteaya | yeah so fungi is getting the foundation owned domain name on the correct rackspace server | 22:34 |
| anteaya | so we can point it where we need to point it, when we have something to point it at | 22:34 |
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| anteaya | right now one of the two parties has a ticket, something about that name in use as a subdomain | 22:35 |
| anteaya | fungi is working to get that straigtened out | 22:35 |
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| anteaya | then make a server, or put it on one we have | 22:35 |
| anteaya | and create publish jobs to publish it and host | 22:35 |
| anteaya | is how I am envisioning things thus far | 22:35 |
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| anteaya | but hey, y'know, obstacles | 22:35 |
| anteaya | that's what I have | 22:36 |
| mtreinish | anteaya: ok, very cool. Yeah, that seems like a good approach | 22:36 |
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| anteaya | okay | 22:36 |
| mtreinish | I was just curious where we stood on that stuff | 22:36 |
| anteaya | happy to share status updates as I have them | 22:36 |
| anteaya | of course, thanks for letting me update | 22:36 |
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| mtreinish | ok, then does anyone else have anything else to discuss on devstack? | 22:36 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Grenade | 22:38 |
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| mtreinish | jogo, sdague: anything new on grenade? | 22:38 |
| mtreinish | I've seen some changes going through around javelin | 22:38 |
| mtreinish | and I know progress has been made on stopping screen usage with grenade | 22:38 |
| fungi | i hope to get the dns situation worked out for it in the next day or so | 22:39 |
| fungi | (oh, new topic) | 22:39 |
| mtreinish | fungi: heh, no worries | 22:39 |
| mtreinish | ok well, I guess we can come back to grenade later... | 22:40 |
| mtreinish | #topic Bugs | 22:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: qa)" | 22:41 | |
| mtreinish | gmann: how does are bug backlog look this week? | 22:41 |
| mtreinish | s/are/our | 22:41 |
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| gmann | Its pretty good progress last week. new bug went down to 30 - https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Tempest-bug-report | 22:41 |
| sdague | mtreinish: sorry, on grenade front I did land the icehouse patches that should let us get there. cdent is looking in the morning | 22:42 |
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| mtreinish | sdague: ok cool, thanks | 22:42 |
| mtreinish | gmann: yeah, I saw a lot of things being closed out by maurosr this week | 22:42 |
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| mtreinish | I think he took this week's rotation | 22:43 |
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| gmann | mtreinish: yes | 22:44 |
| mtreinish | gmann: ok, cool. We're slowly getting there. I'm looking forward to 0 new bugs and hopefully we'll be able to maintain it | 22:45 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: ++ | 22:45 |
| gmann | mtreinish: + we keep monitoring the new bugs coming to triage those earlier which is always easy to do for old ones | 22:45 |
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| gmann | mtreinish: yes. hopefully soon we will be at 0 :) | 22:46 |
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| mtreinish | gmann: are there any bugs that stick out that could use some extra eyes on them? | 22:46 |
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| gmann | mtreinish: currently nothing, but I will let you guys know if something there. | 22:47 |
| mtreinish | gmann: ok cool, thanks | 22:47 |
| mtreinish | does anyone have anything else to discuss about bugs? | 22:47 |
| mtreinish | #topic Critical Reviews | 22:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Critical Reviews (Meeting topic: qa)" | 22:48 | |
| mtreinish | ok, does anyone have any reviews that they'd like to get some extra eyes on? | 22:49 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: It is not mine, but the one I put in the agenda | 22:49 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: ah, ok yeah | 22:49 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/112581/ | 22:50 |
| mtreinish | that is one large patch | 22:50 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: It has two +2 from afazekas and me | 22:50 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I don't see how it could have been smaller. It does what it does. | 22:50 |
| mtreinish | well he could have broken the functionality of cleanup_server into a series based on functional groups | 22:51 |
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| mtreinish | it looks like it's fairly modular to handle new resource types already | 22:51 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: It is proportional to the number of resources we have | 22:51 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: Yes, that was my main review comment on the first round | 22:51 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: yeah, but reading a 1000+ line file takes a lot of time and will be error prone | 22:51 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I guess it is a matter of style. I would rather read 1000 lines than 10 files with 100 lines in different patches | 22:52 |
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| dpaterson | mtreinish: It's pretty cookie cutter stuff | 22:53 |
| mtreinish | it looks that way, but its just a matter of what's easily consumable in a sitting | 22:54 |
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| mtreinish | but I'm not going to block it on that if it already has 2 +2s | 22:54 |
| mtreinish | anyway does anyone else have any other reviews? | 22:54 |
| mtreinish | I have a couple this week myself: | 22:54 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/122538 | 22:54 |
| mtreinish | and | 22:54 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/125735 | 22:54 |
| mtreinish | ok if there aren't any other reviews I guess we can end early | 22:56 |
| mtreinish | I did have summit brainstorming on the agenda | 22:56 |
| mtreinish | but there isn't a lot of time left to discuss any topics on the list | 22:56 |
| mtreinish | but I guess I'll push for people to add any topics to that list | 22:57 |
| mtreinish | even if it's something small given the new summit format it'll be good to just note it beforehand | 22:57 |
| mtreinish | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-qa-summit-topics | 22:57 |
| mtreinish | ok, thanks everyone | 22:58 |
| dpaterson | tx | 22:58 |
| mtreinish | #endmeeting | 22:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 2 22:58:38 2014 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2014/qa.2014-10-02-22.02.html | 22:58 |
| masayukig | thanks | 22:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2014/qa.2014-10-02-22.02.txt | 22:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2014/qa.2014-10-02-22.02.log.html | 22:58 |
| gmann | Thanks all | 22:58 |
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