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| crinkle | morning | 13:59 |
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| crinkle | anything to put on the agenda today? | 14:01 |
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| mdorman | o/ | 14:04 |
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| crinkle | o/ | 14:05 |
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| crinkle | mdorman: I think you and I are the only ones here | 14:06 |
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| mdorman | seems that way. | 14:09 |
| mdorman | the only thing i wanted to ask about today was if there’s a problem with the gate. | 14:09 |
| mdorman | i.e. getting consistent failures on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144811/, and i’ve seen the same errors on others. | 14:10 |
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| crinkle | :( may want to bring it to infra's attention | 14:11 |
| mdorman | fair enough | 14:11 |
| mdorman | i can do that | 14:12 |
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| crinkle | okay well let's call off the meeting today, next week I'll prepare an agenda in advance | 14:12 |
| mdorman | sounds good. enjoy your day! | 14:13 |
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| crinkle | you too | 14:13 |
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| anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 5 15:00:15 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:00 |
| anteaya | anyone here for the third-party meeting? | 15:00 |
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| kaisers | Hi! Is it ok to ask individual questions right now regarding CI setup issues? | 15:13 |
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| anteaya | kaisers: hi, yes it is | 15:14 |
| kaisers | I'm trying to install a CI setup running install_master.sh from https://github.com/rasselin/os-ext-testing | 15:15 |
| kaisers | It's almost completing now but quitting on a missing nodepool template | 15:15 |
| anteaya | kaisers: interesting | 15:15 |
| kaisers | I could not find any documentation how to create this | 15:15 |
| anteaya | well asselin in one of our CI operators | 15:16 |
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| anteaya | and is quite active in irc and very supportive of other operators | 15:16 |
| anteaya | he is the one who created that tool | 15:16 |
| kaisers | so, contact him directly? | 15:16 |
| anteaya | do you have any output from when the script is quitting | 15:17 |
| anteaya | no, he usually reads the logs and will find you on irc if you stick around | 15:17 |
| kaisers | Expected to find nodepool template at /home/openstackci/openstack/os-ext-testing-data/etc/nodepool/nodepool.yaml.erb, but wasn't found. Please create this using the sample provided. Exiting. | 15:17 |
| kaisers | ok | 15:17 |
| anteaya | okay thanks | 15:17 |
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| anteaya | do you know about paste.openstack.org | 15:17 |
| kaisers | yep but considered this to be short enough to be viable in irc. :) | 15:17 |
| anteaya | http://paste.openstack.org/ | 15:17 |
| kaisers | or not? | 15:18 |
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| anteaya | fair enough | 15:18 |
| anteaya | no that is okay | 15:18 |
| anteaya | I never know with new people how familiar they are with tools and ettiquette | 15:18 |
| kaisers | right about that, np :) | 15:18 |
| anteaya | so I take the time to gently nudge when I have the chance | 15:18 |
| anteaya | great | 15:18 |
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| anteaya | so can you grep for that file? | 15:19 |
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| anteaya | is there a nodepool.yaml.erb file anywhere in your setup? | 15:19 |
| kaisers | the path points to my data repo and it's not in there because i did not create it | 15:19 |
| anteaya | okay what happens if you follow the instructions and create it using the sample provided? | 15:19 |
| kaisers | i followed the blog entry on http://www.joinfu.com/2014/02/setting-up-an-external-openstack-testing-system/ | 15:19 |
| anteaya | ah | 15:20 |
| kaisers | but there's no info about nodepool config in there | 15:20 |
| anteaya | yeah, there should be a comment at the top stating that workflow is out of date? | 15:20 |
| kaisers | It just says that there's an updating process and things might not work | 15:21 |
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| anteaya | I think you feel into the gap | 15:21 |
| kaisers | But i could not find an alternative ... | 15:21 |
| anteaya | right | 15:21 |
| anteaya | okay so you get them message about creating a file using the sample provided | 15:21 |
| anteaya | is there a sample provided? | 15:21 |
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| kaisers | not that i could find | 15:22 |
| anteaya | okay | 15:22 |
| anteaya | I'll show you ours | 15:22 |
| * anteaya finds | 15:22 | |
| kaisers | :) | 15:22 |
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| anteaya | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/modules/openstack_project/templates/nodepool/nodepool.yaml.erb | 15:24 |
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| anteaya | now our configuration spans repos in that the template you are looking at in the system-config repo calls scripts from the project-config repo: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/nodepool/scripts | 15:25 |
| kaisers | Thanks. I'll look into your example, i've no nodepool experience so this will take a while | 15:25 |
| anteaya | you don't have to do that | 15:25 |
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| anteaya | yes, not many people have nodepool experience | 15:25 |
| anteaya | outside of openstack-infra | 15:26 |
| anteaya | and yes it will take a while | 15:26 |
| anteaya | but hopefully this is enough for you to put together a simple config file | 15:26 |
| anteaya | and keep making progress | 15:26 |
| kaisers | well, 3rd party CI integrators will have to learn this, as it seems. :) | 15:26 |
| anteaya | they do to varying degrees | 15:27 |
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| anteaya | not all of them use nodepool | 15:27 |
| anteaya | but we do encourage folks to try it | 15:27 |
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| anteaya | since being able to test on single use nodes allows for more confidence in the tests | 15:27 |
| anteaya | and a great ability to scale | 15:27 |
| anteaya | greater | 15:27 |
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| kaisers | So, the idea behind nodepool is to have a pool of existing images with devstack preinstalled, and instantiate these for individual jenkins jobs? | 15:28 |
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| anteaya | yes | 15:28 |
| anteaya | that is exactly it | 15:28 |
| kaisers | ok | 15:29 |
| anteaya | that reduces the build time for testing | 15:29 |
| anteaya | and nodepool also takes care of deleting them | 15:29 |
| anteaya | once they are handed back as finished | 15:29 |
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| kaisers | how are 'current' devstack images created? | 15:29 |
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| anteaya | #link http://status.openstack.org/zuul/ | 15:30 |
| kaisers | i mean, does nodepool ensure there's always the latest devstack version available in the pool? | 15:30 |
| kaisers | zuul, hmm | 15:30 |
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| anteaya | if you scroll down to the very bottom of that page, you will see a graph | 15:30 |
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| kaisers | ok, i've to read more, hehe | 15:30 |
| anteaya | with nodes in one of four states | 15:30 |
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| anteaya | nodepool takes care of building and deleting by monitoring how many are available | 15:30 |
| anteaya | we create devstack images once per day | 15:31 |
| anteaya | this reduces our nodepool load on git.openstack.org | 15:31 |
| kaisers | ah! ok, t | 15:31 |
| kaisers | that was what i was fishing for. :) | 15:31 |
| anteaya | so devstack is theoretically only 24 hours old | 15:31 |
| kaisers | ic | 15:32 |
| kaisers | *i see | 15:32 |
| anteaya | so once the image is used, only the most recent commits need to be fetched | 15:32 |
| anteaya | now we keep the old image until a new one is successfully built | 15:32 |
| anteaya | and sometimes we have image build issues | 15:32 |
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| anteaya | so we have found that we are using an image 3 to 5 days old | 15:33 |
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| anteaya | this makes us sad and we debug the best we can and fix our disk-image-builder tool | 15:33 |
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| anteaya | which you are welcome to help with if you choose | 15:33 |
| anteaya | this is a lot to take in | 15:33 |
| kaisers | yup | 15:33 |
| anteaya | but all our tools are works in progress | 15:33 |
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| anteaya | so once you get your sea legs | 15:34 |
| anteaya | I am guessing in about 3 months or so | 15:34 |
| anteaya | if you see someway of improving our tools do speak up and better yet, offer a patch | 15:34 |
| kaisers | I was previously thinking about simply installing devstack in a jenkins jobs VM. This adds some minutes to the job setup time | 15:34 |
| anteaya | are you familiar with our development workflow? | 15:34 |
| anteaya | yes it does | 15:34 |
| anteaya | and every CI account is testing something different and has different priorites | 15:35 |
| kaisers | I do know the cinder / nova workflows | 15:35 |
| anteaya | ah awesome | 15:35 |
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| anteaya | so perhaps less than 3 months for you | 15:35 |
| anteaya | we do get some CI operators who know nothing about openstack at all | 15:35 |
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| anteaya | so it takes them more time to understand things | 15:35 |
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| kaisers | We'll i'm coming in the other way round, we added our drivers to cinder and nova and want to set up CI testing for those.... | 15:36 |
| anteaya | well testing is good | 15:36 |
| anteaya | so I'm glad you are doing so | 15:36 |
| anteaya | and you are asking good questions | 15:36 |
| anteaya | so you already understand the process as a dev | 15:37 |
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| kaisers | I hope so. ;) | 15:37 |
| anteaya | the check and gate queues, understanding the different kinds of logs | 15:37 |
| anteaya | and the value of providing good logs | 15:37 |
| anteaya | good | 15:37 |
| kaisers | I'll look into your nodepool config and try to make a simpler version for our pupose, now. Thanks a lot for helping! | 15:38 |
| anteaya | my pleasure | 15:38 |
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| anteaya | thanks for taking the trouble to find the right place to ask | 15:38 |
| kaisers | np :) | 15:38 |
| anteaya | have you seen this page? http://ci.openstack.org/third_party.html | 15:38 |
| kaisers | yep, saw that some time ago | 15:38 |
| anteaya | great | 15:39 |
| anteaya | so that page gets updated from time to time | 15:39 |
| kaisers | i just came by the wiki meetings page | 15:39 |
| anteaya | great | 15:39 |
| kaisers | ok | 15:39 |
| anteaya | and you are encouraged to review patches to taht page | 15:39 |
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| anteaya | and offer any you think are relevant | 15:39 |
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| anteaya | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/doc/source/third_party.rst | 15:40 |
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| kaisers | I'll see if i can add in there, thanks | 15:42 |
| anteaya | thank you | 15:42 |
| anteaya | I hope you get nodepool nodepooling | 15:42 |
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| kaisers | will try my very best | 15:43 |
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| anteaya | :D | 15:43 |
| anteaya | sound good to me | 15:43 |
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| anteaya | kaisers: you might consider joining #openstack-infra and #openstack-dev, though asselin might find you in #openstack-cinder since that is his main project | 15:56 |
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| anteaya | and I'll end there | 15:59 |
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| anteaya | see you all next week | 15:59 |
| anteaya | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
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| anteaya | and openstack's part/join has frozen the topic | 16:00 |
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| anteaya | I wonder if we have the logs in anything other than channel | 16:00 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: thank you | 16:00 |
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| sarob | #startmeeting training-guides | 17:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 5 17:05:30 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:05 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' | 17:05 |
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| sarob | Hello | 17:05 |
| timfreund | hello | 17:05 |
| dbite | hello | 17:06 |
| sarob | Evening/morning | 17:06 |
| dbite | evening/morning | 17:06 |
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| sarob | So not much on the agenda | 17:07 |
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| dbite | yes nothing much from my side too | 17:08 |
| dbite | I'm waiting for the spec to get merged | 17:08 |
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| sayali | hello | 17:09 |
| sarob | What's the status on branchig? | 17:09 |
| sayali | sorry about the delay | 17:09 |
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| sarob | Hey sayali | 17:09 |
| sarob | Np | 17:09 |
| sarob | Sayali: your specs look good to me | 17:11 |
| sarob | I will review within a few hours | 17:11 |
| sarob | Still spinning back up | 17:11 |
| dbite | sarob: as I said waiting for the spec to get merged, after that I can proceed forward | 17:11 |
| sarob | Dbite: ah okay that spec | 17:12 |
| sayali | sarob: alright. Roger has suggested somethings I could add..will add them to it to | 17:12 |
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| dbite | sarob: my hands are tied ;) | 17:13 |
| matjazp | hey guys | 17:13 |
| sarob | It's looks like we are waiting on ajaeger | 17:13 |
| dbite | matjazp: hello | 17:13 |
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| sarob | Matjazp evening sir | 17:13 |
| matjazp | sorry I'm late | 17:13 |
| sarob | Np | 17:14 |
| sayali | hello matjazp | 17:14 |
| sarob | I move that we adopt the nova core reviewer standard | 17:15 |
| sarob | Wanna vote on it? | 17:15 |
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| dbite | sarob: rlurthi is missing | 17:15 |
| dbite | should we vote on ML? | 17:15 |
| sarob | Dbite sure | 17:16 |
| dbite | sarob: I have a question for you since we do not have much on the agenda | 17:16 |
| sarob | #action sarob on ML ask for vote on adopting nova core reviewer standards | 17:16 |
| sarob | Dbite hit me | 17:16 |
| dbite | how is the training for SF bay group going? Any feedback on the labs section. That is really important for training labs | 17:17 |
| sarob | Dbite I haven't introduced the labs yet | 17:17 |
| dbite | sarob: ahh ok | 17:17 |
| dbite | sarob: is there any agenda? | 17:18 |
| sarob | Dbite I'm planning on doing that this next session later this month | 17:18 |
| matjazp | dbite: how do we feel with adding some easier stuff in? | 17:18 |
| matjazp | dbite: like lbaas | 17:18 |
| dbite | matjazp: yes, thats why we need feedback | 17:18 |
| dbite | because we need to know if this apporach is correct | 17:18 |
| dbite | or if we need some design changes | 17:18 |
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| matjazp | dbite: Neutron is already installed, but I wanted to use lbaas and we have to switch to different training cluster | 17:18 |
| dbite | to pile more stuff on it without knowing that would not be ideal | 17:18 |
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| dbite | matjazp: ok, we can add LbaaS support | 17:19 |
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| dbite | do you want to write an email to include roger into this discussion | 17:19 |
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| sarob | Keeping it simple as we are starting up trainers is pretty important | 17:19 |
| sayali | I agree, feedback is necessary for the labs | 17:20 |
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| matjazp | dbite: since this is a training(!) cluster, it should have a lot of features, since the whole point of training is to introduce them to trainees :) | 17:20 |
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| sarob | But I would like to start seperating juno from kilo labs and materials | 17:20 |
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| dbite | matjazp: that is why we need some feedback | 17:20 |
| dbite | to know if our approach is correct before getting into complex things | 17:21 |
| dbite | we have spent a lot of time and effort into the current cluster | 17:21 |
| sayali | also we need to know the audience and how much they would try to play with the cluster | 17:21 |
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| sarob_ | I have created a survey | 17:21 |
| sarob_ | For the trainers to use, improve | 17:22 |
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| dbite | sarob_: matjazp there are many more improvements that we plan for the cluster including support to install the cluster into an existing cloud | 17:22 |
| sarob_ | This should be the way we get feedback on labs | 17:22 |
| dbite | I have been working on 3rd level virtualization with OpenStack inside OpenStack for the training cluster | 17:23 |
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| matjazp | dbite: I usuall use devstack for trainees and I show them how to adapt configuration as the need different things. Training cluster should be also as flexible as possible (no bleeding edge features will be included, of course) | 17:24 |
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| dbite | matjazp: yes, for sure :) | 17:24 |
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| dbite | matjazp: can you get a list of features that your team requires for the cluster? | 17:25 |
| matjazp | what I like so far: it's installed from packages, so it is closer to a "real life" cloud than devstack | 17:25 |
| dbite | matjazp: it is same as real life cloud with degraded performance | 17:26 |
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| matjazp | dbite: When talking about neutron, I usually show them some features that look good in front of the audience, like LBaaS and autoscaling with heat. | 17:27 |
| sarob_ | Matjazp you can put your labs req into the developing topics etherpad | 17:27 |
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| matjazp | sarob_: sure | 17:27 |
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| sarob | Then dbite can pick them up in a new bp | 17:28 |
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| matjazp | oh... and performance... well... now it sucks for everything but the "lightest" scenarios regarding VMs | 17:28 |
| matjazp | but that's Virtualboxes problem form not supporting nested virtualisation | 17:28 |
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| dbite | matjazp: ok, KVM is on the road map | 17:28 |
| sarob | Dbite should I ping ajaeger on the spec? | 17:28 |
| dbite | sarob: I can ping him as we work in the same city | 17:29 |
| dbite | I think he is still on his vacation | 17:29 |
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| sarob | Dbite I heard about that ;) | 17:29 |
| matjazp | One of my students tried to run a Windows server inside and just gave up.. it was tooooo slow | 17:29 |
| sarob | Dbite ah | 17:29 |
| dbite | sarob: :) | 17:29 |
| dbite | matjazp: can we talk after the meeting? | 17:29 |
| matjazp | dbite: huh, not today... | 17:30 |
| dbite | or sometime this week? I would like to try and include Roger and Sayali in the conversation as they both are actively developing the cluster | 17:30 |
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| matjazp | dbite: sure, lets sync over mail | 17:30 |
| sarob | Matjazp we need your specs my friend | 17:30 |
| matjazp | sarob: ehhh.. yes... been lazy over holidays :( | 17:31 |
| sarob | Matjazp me too | 17:31 |
| matjazp | I tried to run devstack in a Docker container | 17:32 |
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| sarob | Matjazp what's result | 17:32 |
| matjazp | interesting stuff, but its not working yet with libvirt | 17:32 |
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| matjazp | only with docker as a kypervisor | 17:33 |
| matjazp | hypervisor | 17:33 |
| sarob | Interesting | 17:33 |
| matjazp | been looking for that is would solv e performance issues | 17:33 |
| sarob | What's the benefit? | 17:33 |
| sarob | Ah | 17:33 |
| matjazp | as it would | 17:33 |
| dbite | matjazp: it makes sense | 17:33 |
| sarob | Matjazp that would be nice | 17:34 |
| dbite | libvirt has thin chance to run under docker containers | 17:34 |
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| matjazp | dbite: well.. you can use some kernel modules, so *maybe* it can be done | 17:34 |
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| dbite | matjazp: as I said really difficult to run a full blown hypervisor inside a container | 17:35 |
| matjazp | dbite: I found some interesting stuff with lxc as a driver | 17:35 |
| matjazp | dbite: yes, it's not for all use cases | 17:36 |
| matjazp | dbite: but its perfect for training cluster :) | 17:36 |
| dbite | matjazp: ok, sounds interesting do you have any blog post about it? | 17:36 |
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| dbite | matjazp: you need to see the performance of the cluster in Libvirt :D | 17:36 |
| dbite | KVM/libvirt I mean | 17:37 |
| matjazp | dbite: yes, I know, its practically the same as in bare metal | 17:37 |
| dbite | yep, runs very smooth | 17:37 |
| matjazp | dbite: been using devstack in Fusion | 17:37 |
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| dbite | matjazp: the problem with the cluster as of now is that its really limited by virtualbox and we have lower disk space for running heavy VMs like Win7 etc. | 17:38 |
| dbite | matjazp: I would need to talk to Roger about it | 17:38 |
| matjazp | dbite: disk space is not such a big issue, performance of VMs is bigger | 17:39 |
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| sarob | Osbash should focus on ease of install and use rather than extra features I think | 17:40 |
| dbite | sarob: I agree, but we need to shape features as per the users too | 17:40 |
| sarob | Extra stuff is interesting but takes our focus off training | 17:40 |
| dbite | thats why I wanted to have another meeting with matjazp about this | 17:40 |
| sarob | Debut of course, sure | 17:41 |
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| matjazp | sarob: sure, but on the other hand, if you can't use it as trainer want to, it will not gain much traction | 17:41 |
| sarob | Argg | 17:41 |
| sarob | Matjazp understood | 17:41 |
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| sarob | Matjazp I don't want to be closed minded def | 17:41 |
| dbite | sarob: matjazp as of now I think training cluster should be a lot better and have many more features but the point being its a lot of work | 17:41 |
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| dbite | and we do not want to divert our attention from the main focus on training | 17:42 |
| sarob | Dbite +1 | 17:42 |
| matjazp | dbite: yes, lets just collect feedback from actual users and adapt accordingly | 17:42 |
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| sarob | Let's collect ideas for future releases but not forget kilo | 17:43 |
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| dbite | sarob: I agree | 17:44 |
| sarob | So let's get our 2015 wheels spinning up | 17:44 |
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| sarob | Specs, reviews, patches, branching | 17:44 |
| sarob | All that stuff | 17:44 |
| sarob | ;) | 17:44 |
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| sarob | I'm very eager to get the slides merged | 17:45 |
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| sarob | So we can start using and refining them | 17:45 |
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| matjazp | sarob: exactly... | 17:45 |
| dbite | sarob: I can feel your anxiety :| need to wait for the feedback | 17:45 |
| sarob | Dbite anxiety not so much, just eager | 17:46 |
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| sarob | Dbite it's a new year bro, all is well! | 17:46 |
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| dbite | sarob: yes, happy new year :) | 17:47 |
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| dbite | sarob: I had a blast this winter :) | 17:47 |
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| sarob | Sayali the trainees have been bugging me about videos | 17:47 |
| sarob | Dbite cool | 17:47 |
| matjazp | dbite: tried skiing? :) | 17:47 |
| dbite | matjazp: soonish, did not want to do too many new things | 17:48 |
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| dbite | Ive done a lot of new things | 17:48 |
| dbite | these last few months | 17:48 |
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| sarob | Dbite Cool beans | 17:49 |
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| sayali | sarob: I have started jotting down stuff for the next video on etherpad | 17:49 |
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| sayali | sarob: I think in the next two weeks it should be ready | 17:50 |
| sarob | Sayali helping install and run osbash for the first time is priority | 17:50 |
| sarob | Sayali coolness | 17:51 |
| sayali | yep thats the one I am talking about too :) | 17:51 |
| sarob | Sayali cool beans | 17:52 |
| sarob | That's all I have | 17:52 |
| sarob | Anything else? | 17:52 |
| matjazp | nope | 17:52 |
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| sarob | I'll get the rest of the rst patches pushed | 17:52 |
| sarob | Y'all have a great week | 17:53 |
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| sarob | Last call for other stuff | 17:53 |
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| sarob | I call this a wrap | 17:54 |
| sarob | Cheers my friends! | 17:54 |
| sayali | cool! | 17:54 |
| sarob | #endmeeting | 17:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 5 17:55:11 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:55 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-01-05-17.05.html | 17:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-01-05-17.05.txt | 17:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-01-05-17.05.log.html | 17:55 |
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| sdake | #startmeeting kolla | 19:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 5 19:59:43 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sdake. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 19:59 | |
| sdake | greetings! | 19:59 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 19:59 |
| sdake | #topic rollcall | 19:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 19:59 | |
| rhallisey | hi | 19:59 |
| sdake | who made it through the new year :) | 19:59 |
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| rhallisey | Happy New Year! | 20:00 |
| sdake | daneyon you happen to be around? | 20:00 |
| sdake | larsks? | 20:00 |
| daneyon | here | 20:00 |
| sdake | jpeeler? | 20:00 |
| larsks | Howdy! | 20:00 |
| larsks | Happy new year! | 20:00 |
| sdake | hey larsks, I promise I wont bother you much except for these meetings for your expertise ideas :) | 20:00 |
| daneyon | yay 2015! | 20:00 |
| sdake | ya, survived another year | 20:01 |
| sdake | whew | 20:01 |
| sdake | meteor scheduled to hit next year I'm sure given my luck :) | 20:01 |
| daneyon | hah | 20:01 |
| daneyon | a | 20:01 |
| sdake | #topic agenda | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "agenda (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:01 | |
| sdake | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Kolla | 20:01 |
| sdake | Anyone have anything to add to the agenda? | 20:01 |
| daneyon | nope | 20:02 |
| sdake | #topic Milestone #2 agenda | 20:02 |
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| sdake | #topic Milestone #2 discussion | 20:02 |
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| sdake | #undo | 20:02 |
| sdake | #undo | 20:02 |
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| sdake | #topic Milestone #2 discussion | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Milestone #2 discussion (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:02 | |
| sdake | there we go | 20:02 |
| sdake | ok I ended up not pushing the tag last year | 20:03 |
| sdake | the motivating factor was that heat-kubernetes was busted along with all our scripts | 20:03 |
| sdake | mainly because fedora upgraded kubernetes and changed how all the configuration worked | 20:03 |
| daneyon | yay | 20:03 |
| sdake | I think the fallout from that is almost settled minus review: | 20:03 |
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| rhallisey | ya I'll fix that soon | 20:04 |
| sdake | #link https://review.openstack.org/143548 | 20:04 |
| sdake | rhallisey if you can fix today, I'll release the tag tomorrow | 20:04 |
| sdake | I'd like to get cracking on Milestone #3 | 20:04 |
| rhallisey | ok cool | 20:04 |
| sdake | anyone have any remianing items that need to be fixed for milestone #2? | 20:04 |
| sdake | I tested with rhallisey's script, and it all seems to work (after I updated the images) | 20:04 |
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| rhallisey | sdake, should I add a feature that detects the version? | 20:05 |
| sdake | rhallisey just expect the latest | 20:05 |
| rhallisey | ok | 20:05 |
| sdake | and if someone complains, we can point them at our prebuilt fedora atomic image | 20:05 |
| sdake | #topic Creating a deployment library for use by TripleO | 20:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Creating a deployment library for use by TripleO (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:06 | |
| jpeeler | little late, sorry | 20:06 |
| sdake | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144199/ | 20:06 |
| sdake | no sweat jeff | 20:06 |
| sdake | so if folks would take a few minutes to read that over | 20:06 |
| sdake | the basic idea is to create a deployment and upgrade/downgrade library for use by TripleO for containers | 20:06 |
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| sdake | and then tripleo would inherit containers by using the library | 20:07 |
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| sdake | but i'll give until 10 after for folks to read through the proposal | 20:07 |
| sdake | ok, times up - hopefully you had a chance to read, initial thoughts? | 20:10 |
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| sdake | I asked Clint to read through the proposal | 20:11 |
| daneyon | makes sense | 20:11 |
| sdake | he suggested we split it up into steps | 20:11 |
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| sdake | as things stand now, I think we are a bit stuck in the mud with no further progress to be made without progressing down a path similar to this | 20:11 |
| sdake | I thought Magnum would be there in time for this, but it wont be | 20:11 |
| sdake | so I think splitting the proposal would be #1: Make deployment work with containers instead of servers (sans Kubernetes) | 20:12 |
| sdake | #2 would be a kubernetes/atomic connection | 20:12 |
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| sdake | I know larsks is swsamped for time, but do other folks have time to work on this assuming proposal #1 is introduced? | 20:13 |
| sdake | It may mean reworking how our container configuration is done a bit | 20:13 |
| sdake | to be more compatible with existing tripleo worldview | 20:13 |
| daneyon | I need to dig into tripleo to better understand | 20:14 |
| sdake | ya, I really have questions about *where* this goes | 20:14 |
| sdake | Tuskar has been mentioned | 20:14 |
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| sdake | If we can abstract Tuskar's deployment api, we can introduce whatever changes we like | 20:15 |
| sdake | and then kolla can join the tripleo program permanently | 20:15 |
| rhallisey | sdake, think I should be ok to contribute will know more soon | 20:15 |
| sdake | thanks rhallisey | 20:15 |
| rhallisey | I anticipate it being no problem | 20:15 |
| * jpeeler doesn't really know | 20:15 | |
| sdake | any further questions? | 20:15 |
| sdake | neither do I jpeeler, neither do I :) | 20:16 |
| jpeeler | however, wouldn't the changes be non-service specific anyway? | 20:16 |
| sdake | well, tripleo uses something called os-rfresh-config | 20:16 |
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| sdake | when someone chnages a config value, tripleo runs ORC across all machines | 20:16 |
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| sdake | in our model, when someone changes a config value, the container is killed and restarted | 20:16 |
| sdake | the container input values must match those that ORC is expecting I suspect | 20:17 |
| * rhallisey needs to learn some tripleo | 20:17 | |
| sdake | yup, thiys means for all of us learning how tripleo works | 20:17 |
| sdake | which shoudl be fun :) | 20:17 |
| rhallisey | :) | 20:18 |
| sdake | the next topic agenda is adding flannel support to heat-kubernetes | 20:18 |
| sdake | but I see larsks, the overachiever he is, has already done that all by himself :) | 20:18 |
| sdake | so I'll move on to open discussion | 20:18 |
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| sdake | #topic Open discussion | 20:18 |
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| sdake | rhallisey as soon as you have a review up for that change, ping a couple guys in the core to getit merged and let me know so I can tag it | 20:19 |
| jpeeler | may i ask why flannel was chosen over weave? | 20:19 |
| sdake | its a good thing I didn't push teh tag last year | 20:19 |
| rhallisey | sdake, sounds good | 20:19 |
| sdake | jpeeler flannel is default in coreos and atomic, weave is not available in either distribution | 20:19 |
| larsks | jpeeler: it seems to be what upstream (kubernetes) is looking at. | 20:19 |
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| larsks | And yeah, it's included by default. | 20:19 |
| daneyon | flannel was discussed as a replacement option around Turkey Day | 20:19 |
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| larsks | Also, I like the fact that it includes vxlan support. | 20:20 |
| daneyon | The k8s team suggests flannel | 20:20 |
| jpeeler | atomic uses flannel? | 20:20 |
| sdake | there is a third option called pipeworks | 20:20 |
| sdake | yes atomic uses flannel | 20:20 |
| larsks | jpeeler: well, no. | 20:20 |
| larsks | jpeeler: but flannel can use vxlan. | 20:20 |
| larsks | The advantage there is that flannel is outside of the communication path, so you can restart it without affecting connectivity. | 20:21 |
| * larsks answers the wrong question. | 20:21 | |
| sdake | ya control plane ftw | 20:21 |
| * larsks hides. | 20:21 | |
| daneyon | flannel supports multiple backends, one of them being vxlan the other being simply UDP encap | 20:21 |
| sdake | atomic *only* ships flannel atm | 20:21 |
| larsks | Yeah. I always feel icky when someone writes their own brand new transport... | 20:22 |
| sdake | that could obviously changein the future | 20:22 |
| sdake | I doubt coreos would ship anything but flannel | 20:22 |
| sdake | since they wrote it oriignally | 20:22 |
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| sdake | NIH and all that | 20:22 |
| sdake | which is good, we have a standard, and dont have to jerk around with two implementations in the templates :) | 20:22 |
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| sdake | anyone else have any open discussion? | 20:24 |
| sdake | I'll give a couple minutes then conclude the meeting | 20:24 |
| sdake | if folks could take time to watch that review posted above, I'd appreciate any feedback or comments you have | 20:25 |
| sdake | obviously everyone's time is important, to getting people to actually read the spec changes is difficult :) | 20:25 |
| sdake | to getting/so getting | 20:25 |
| daneyon | i'll keep an eye out | 20:25 |
| sdake | thanks folks | 20:25 |
| sdake | i'll conclude the meting now | 20:26 |
| sdake | #endmeeting | 20:26 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 5 20:26:03 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-01-05-19.59.html | 20:26 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-01-05-19.59.txt | 20:26 |
| sdake | have a nice new year :) | 20:26 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-01-05-19.59.log.html | 20:26 |
| rhallisey | thanks | 20:26 |
| rhallisey | you too | 20:26 |
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| daneyon | bye | 20:26 |
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| mestery | hi | 20:58 |
| thomasem | hello | 20:58 |
| lukasa_home | o/ | 20:59 |
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| markmcclain | hi | 20:59 |
| enikanorov__ | hi team! | 20:59 |
| banix | hi | 20:59 |
| sweston | o/ | 20:59 |
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| rkukura | hi | 21:00 |
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| HenryG | o/ | 21:00 |
| carl_baldwin | hi | 21:00 |
| dougwig | hi | 21:00 |
| mlavalle | hi | 21:00 |
| Sukhdev | Hello | 21:00 |
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| marun | hi | 21:01 |
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| mestery | #startmeeting networking | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Jan 5 21:01:21 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mestery. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:01 |
| beagles | o/ | 21:01 |
| mestery | Happy New Year to all! | 21:01 |
| mestery | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings Agenda | 21:01 |
| mestery | #topic Announcements | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:01 | |
| SumitNaiksatam | hi all | 21:01 |
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| mestery | I know many of us are just back from the holidays, but Kilo-2 is one month from today | 21:02 |
| mestery | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Kilo_Release_Schedule | 21:02 |
| mestery | Not a lot of time | 21:02 |
| dougwig | not when it takes 2 months to get past the gate. | 21:02 |
| mestery | dougwig: True story! | 21:02 |
| anteaya | o/ | 21:02 |
| mestery | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings#Networking_L2_Gateway_meeting | 21:03 |
| mestery | The L2 Gateway team will have a bi-weekly meeting, see ^^^ for details | 21:03 |
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| mestery | And talk to Sukhdev and armax for more information. | 21:03 |
| Sukhdev | We had our kick off meeting this morning | 21:03 |
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| mestery | Any other announcements for the team this week? | 21:03 |
| mestery | Sukhdev: Excellent! | 21:03 |
| mestery | OK, moving on ... | 21:04 |
| mestery | #topic Bugs | 21:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:04 | |
| mestery | enikanorov__: Hi there! | 21:04 |
| enikanorov__ | hi | 21:04 |
| mestery | How goes the land of bug triaging? | 21:04 |
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| enikanorov__ | a couple o issues to discuss | 21:04 |
| enikanorov__ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1403291 | 21:04 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1403291 in neutron "test_server_connectivity_pause_unpause fails with "AssertionError: False is not true : Timed out waiting for 172.24.4.64 to become reachable"" [High,New] | 21:04 |
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| enikanorov__ | this one is hit pretty often | 21:05 |
| enikanorov__ | http://logstash.openstack.org/#eyJzZWFyY2giOiJtZXNzYWdlOiBcIlB1YmxpYyBuZXR3b3JrIGNvbm5lY3Rpdml0eSBjaGVjayBmYWlsZWRcIiIsImZpZWxkcyI6W10sIm9mZnNldCI6MCwidGltZWZyYW1lIjoiNjA0ODAwIiwiZ3JhcGhtb2RlIjoiY291bnQiLCJ0aW1lIjp7InVzZXJfaW50ZXJ2YWwiOjB9LCJzdGFtcCI6MTQyMDQ5MTI1NzAxMn0= | 21:05 |
| enikanorov__ | lots of hits during last 7 days, so i set importance to High | 21:05 |
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| mestery | enikanorov__: Yes, this one looks like something we should dig into, lots of gate hits | 21:06 |
| mestery | dougwig: Is this one you've hit in your gate battles the past week? | 21:06 |
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| mestery | Regardless, lets see if we can dig into this one a bit more this week. | 21:07 |
| enikanorov__ | and i think it not only affecting test_server_connectivity_pause_unpause test, but others too that involve external connectivity check | 21:07 |
| enikanorov__ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1401895 | 21:07 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1401895 in grenade "Ensure a smooth upgrade path after adv svc split" [Undecided,In progress] | 21:07 |
| enikanorov__ | mestery: i saw you've added it to the list | 21:07 |
| armax | hello, sorry I am late | 21:07 |
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| mestery | enikanorov__: The one I added I removed because kevinbenton fixed it and emagana and HenryG merged it over the weekend :) | 21:08 |
| HenryG | thanks to kevinbenton for analyzing and fixing it | 21:08 |
| mestery | ++ | 21:08 |
| enikanorov__ | ok, i'll remove it from list on the wiki | 21:08 |
| mestery | thanks enikanorov__ | 21:09 |
| enikanorov__ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1357055 | 21:09 |
| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1357055 in tempest "Race to delete shared subnet in Tempest neutron full jobs" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 21:09 |
| enikanorov__ | salv-orlando: it's assigned to you | 21:09 |
| enikanorov__ | ok, looks like salv-orlando is not here | 21:10 |
| kevinbenton | time.sleep(random.randint(0, 1000)) should fix it! | 21:10 |
| enikanorov__ | lets move forward | 21:10 |
| enikanorov__ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1382064 | 21:10 |
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| uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1382064 in neutron "Failure to allocate tunnel id when creating networks concurrently" [High,In progress] | 21:10 |
| enikanorov__ | this one is in a good shape imo ;) | 21:10 |
| enikanorov__ | so I's ask Maru to take a look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/129288/ again | 21:10 |
| enikanorov__ | *I'd | 21:10 |
| salv-orlando | I am, and I am still of the opinion that the bug is not a neutron one | 21:10 |
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| salv-orlando | obviously I am referring to 14570055 | 21:11 |
| enikanorov__ | salv-orlando: that's a bug from the future. | 21:11 |
| marun | enikanorov__: ok | 21:11 |
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| enikanorov__ | salv-orlando: then please leave a comment there, so we remove neutron project from the bug | 21:12 |
| marun | enikanorov__: I was hoping for an answer to my last comment before removing my -1 | 21:12 |
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| salv-orlando | enikanorov__: sure I will do that as soon as my spaceships exits warp speed | 21:12 |
| mestery | lol | 21:12 |
| enikanorov__ | marun: are you talking about dependency on neutron-multiprocess functional testing? | 21:12 |
| marun | enikanorov__: No | 21:12 |
| enikanorov__ | marun: has I missed something? | 21:13 |
| enikanorov__ | ok, let's take it offline | 21:13 |
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| marun | enikanorov__: I was hoping for clarity as to whether any other codepaths will benefit from changing the transaction isolation | 21:13 |
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| marun | enikanorov__: And if so, should we be tracking a larger effort before we close this one off. | 21:13 |
| marun | enikanorov__: sure, we can take it offline | 21:13 |
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| enikanorov__ | marun: ah, thanks for reminding. I'l reply. | 21:13 |
| marun | enikanorov__: great :) | 21:14 |
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| enikanorov__ | on other bugs from the list there is no updates for todya | 21:14 |
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| mestery | Thanks enikanorov__ ! | 21:15 |
| mestery | I don't see emagana here today, so lets move on to the "On Demand" section of the agenda now. | 21:15 |
| mestery | #topic nova-network to neutron migration | 21:15 |
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| mestery | anteaya: I see you are here! | 21:15 |
| anteaya | I am | 21:15 |
| thomasem | So, this is the first neutron meeting I've made it to | 21:15 |
| mestery | anteaya: Unfourtanetly oleg isn't here | 21:15 |
| anteaya | I didn't see this was its own topic | 21:15 |
| mestery | thomasem: Excellent! | 21:15 |
| mestery | anteaya: I usually try to make the On Demand topics their own topic as best I can | 21:16 |
| thomasem | I remember talking to you, mestery, a month or so ago about Shared IPs with cerberus and others. | 21:16 |
| anteaya | thomasem: help me understand your role in the mgration work, sorry I don't know you | 21:16 |
| mestery | thomasem: What anteaya said :) | 21:16 |
| thomasem | anteaya: Oh, I'm sorry. I misunderstood the step in the agenda we're in. | 21:16 |
| anteaya | ah okay | 21:17 |
| thomasem | :) Carry on. I'm not working on the migration stuff. | 21:17 |
| mestery | thomasem: No worries, we'll have open discussion in a bit :) | 21:17 |
| thomasem | sounds great | 21:17 |
| anteaya | well to wrap this up to carry on | 21:17 |
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| anteaya | there is an email thread to -dev | 21:17 |
| anteaya | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-December/053355.html | 21:17 |
| anteaya | currently we are looking for a mutual meeting time | 21:17 |
| markmcclain | anteya: thanks for the link | 21:17 |
| anteaya | hoping to have some sort of indicatation by the end of the week, if you want to attend and participate please weigh in | 21:18 |
| markmcclain | I think Oleg is on vacation, maybe return to this next meeting? | 21:18 |
| anteaya | then we will have meetings that are logged and have more to report | 21:18 |
| anteaya | yup, done for now | 21:18 |
| mestery | We do need Oleg for this for sure. | 21:18 |
| anteaya | thanks | 21:18 |
| anteaya | we do | 21:18 |
| anteaya | russian holidays | 21:18 |
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| mestery | Cool | 21:18 |
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| anteaya | also going to try to make the nova weekly meetings too | 21:18 |
| mestery | Thanks for the quick update anteaya, we'll leave this on the agenda for next week as well | 21:18 |
| anteaya | to stay in sync | 21:19 |
| anteaya | great thanks | 21:19 |
| mestery | anteaya: ++, good idea | 21:19 |
| mestery | OK, moving on to the next topic | 21:19 |
| mestery | #topic VPN testing with devstack | 21:19 |
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| mestery | pc_m had proposed this, but he had to leave to go to the doctor this afternoon | 21:19 |
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| mestery | He asked me to point people at this mailing list thread (I need to find the lnk), he's looking for a second set of eyeballs on this one | 21:19 |
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| marun | I've left a comment regarding the desirability of tempest testing for this in advance of functional testing. | 21:20 |
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| mestery | marun: VPN testing with devstack? | 21:20 |
| marun | mestery: Is it possible to create vpn tunnels between namespaces on a single host? | 21:20 |
| mestery | marun: That's a good question actually, I'm not sure. | 21:21 |
| anteaya | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-December/053655.html | 21:21 |
| mestery | thanks anteaya :) | 21:21 |
| anteaya | :) | 21:21 |
| thomasem | I don't see why it wouldn't be possible. | 21:21 |
| marun | mestery: I would hope that could be investigated first and foremost. | 21:21 |
| markmcclain | it is definitely possible | 21:21 |
| mestery | marun: Agreed, lets wait until pc_m is back in-channel so we can discuss there. | 21:22 |
| marun | mestery: ok | 21:22 |
| mestery | I know he was banging his head on the wall around this, so thanks for any help people can provide him! | 21:22 |
| mestery | Lets move on to the last documented topic before Open Discussion | 21:22 |
| * markmcclain makes note to chime in on thread | 21:22 | |
| mestery | #topic Kilo-2 BPs in Launchpad | 21:22 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Kilo-2 BPs in Launchpad (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:22 | |
| anteaya | do we need to mention this at the infra meeting? | 21:22 |
| anteaya | sorry prior topic | 21:22 |
| mestery | #undo | 21:22 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x3d59b50> | 21:22 |
| mestery | anteaya: I think that makes sense, can you find pc_m in-channel and walk him through that by chance? | 21:22 |
| mestery | Or refer him to infra meeting? | 21:23 |
| anteaya | should pc_m have an item on tomorrows infra meeting agenda? | 21:23 |
| anteaya | sure | 21:23 |
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| mestery | anteaya: I think so, that may make sense. | 21:23 |
| mestery | Cool, thanks anteaya! | 21:23 |
| anteaya | np | 21:23 |
| mestery | #topic Kilo-2 BPs in Launchpad | 21:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Kilo-2 BPs in Launchpad (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:23 | |
| mestery | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/kilo-2 | 21:23 |
| mestery | So, I spent some time looking at approved BPs for Kilo-2. | 21:23 |
| mestery | The ones which don't have code proposed, I put as "Blocked" for now, this makes ti easier for me and ttx to track them in our weekly meetings. | 21:24 |
| markmcclain | mestery: good idea | 21:24 |
| mestery | Given we're 4 weeks out from kilo-2, and the gate has been problematic, lets try to land as much as we can as early as we can. | 21:24 |
| mestery | thanks markmcclain | 21:24 |
| mestery | Any questions on Kilo-2 process wise here? | 21:24 |
| mestery | OK moving on then | 21:25 |
| mestery | #topic Open Discussion | 21:25 |
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| thomasem | 'tis my queue | 21:26 |
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| mestery | thomasem: You're up sir! | 21:26 |
| thomasem | lol, so, yeah, just wanted to add a blurb about the shared IPs spec I have up. I wasn't aware that there was an existing implementation to add port security facilities to share IPs | 21:26 |
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| mestery | thomasem: I know carl_baldwin was interested in this work, as it had some overlap with he's doing on the L3 side of things. | 21:27 |
| thomasem | Wasn't sure if anyone had used allow-address-pairs that's here, and was wondering about a few limitations that seem to be present, that could be solved by implementing this spec: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142566/1, or potentially modifying the existing extension... not sure how clean that'd be, though. | 21:27 |
| thomasem | allowed* | 21:28 |
| thomasem | Ahhh | 21:28 |
| thomasem | yeah, okay cool | 21:28 |
| markmcclain | I've used allowed addr pair | 21:28 |
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| thomasem | markmcclain: awesome... so it looked like you had to create a dummy port to allocate the IP? | 21:28 |
| thomasem | and then just add it to the other ports you want to share it across | 21:28 |
| thomasem | via the allowed-address-pairs | 21:28 |
| salv-orlando | I use them too - never had to create any dummy port. Mostly because my use case is not the shared ip | 21:29 |
| thomasem | Ah | 21:29 |
| markmcclain | thomasem <=juno yes… some of the IPAM work in Kilo could change things | 21:29 |
| thomasem | Yeah, it is a more generic thing than that. | 21:29 |
| thomasem | Oh? | 21:29 |
| thomasem | I'm not as aware of that unfortunately (just starting out on the Neutron side of things as it relates to upstream) | 21:29 |
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| * carl_baldwin thought he made comments on the proposed spec but he can’t find them. | 21:30 | |
| thomasem | As I understand it, there's work underway to add, or improve existing, IPAM. | 21:30 |
| thomasem | carl_baldwin: you did | 21:30 |
| markmcclain | thomasem: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/kilo/neutron-ipam.html | 21:30 |
| salv-orlando | carl_baldwin: surely you have a session somewhere with plenty of draft comments | 21:30 |
| thomasem | carl_baldwin: you did when I had it in an etherpad | 21:31 |
| carl_baldwin | thomasem: thanks for jogging my memory. | 21:31 |
| thomasem | I wanted to get more info on the existing allowed-address-pairs stuff to mention it as an alternative | 21:31 |
| salv-orlando | thomasem: I have the feeling you kind of wanted to make IP addresses first level resources, but did not feel like proposing such a deep change in the API | 21:31 |
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| thomasem | salv-orlando: I think eventually it'd be a good idea to make ip_addresses first-class citizens | 21:31 |
| thomasem | But, yes, I was trying to shoot for something closer to reality right now | 21:32 |
| thomasem | Since currently allocation and everything happens through /ports | 21:32 |
| thomasem | at least that's my understanding | 21:32 |
| salv-orlando | thomasem: that's correct. | 21:32 |
| thomasem | So, we could get shared IPs without a huge change | 21:32 |
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| carl_baldwin | thomasem: right. Current IPAM work planned doesn’t quite get there either. | 21:33 |
| thomasem | ah | 21:33 |
| thomasem | So, I'll need to look into the planning IPAM work. Currently I'm backing Neutron using Quark. | 21:34 |
| thomasem | Which has IPAM and all of that built in | 21:34 |
| thomasem | the planned* | 21:34 |
| mestery | thomasem: I'd sync with carl_baldwin offline around some of this, he has a good roadmap for this area I think, along with salv-orlando. | 21:35 |
| mestery | Thanks for bringing this up thomasem! | 21:35 |
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| thomasem | sounds great to me, I'll do that | 21:35 |
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| mestery | thanks thomasem! | 21:35 |
| mestery | And thanks to all who joined today! | 21:35 |
| thomasem | I also sent an e-mail to arosen regarding the existing extension and how we might be able to change it. | 21:35 |
| thomasem | cheers! | 21:36 |
| mestery | Looking forward to a quick 4.5 weeks until Kilo-2 :) | 21:36 |
| mestery | Lets keep those patches and reveiws coming. ;) | 21:36 |
| mestery | See you all next week! | 21:36 |
| mestery | #endmeeting | 21:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Jan 5 21:36:16 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-01-05-21.01.html | 21:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-01-05-21.01.txt | 21:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-01-05-21.01.log.html | 21:36 |
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