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anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 08:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 6 08:00:01 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 08:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 08:00 |
trinaths | Hi | 08:00 |
anteaya | hello | 08:00 |
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anteaya | anyone else here for the third party meeting? | 08:00 |
anteaya | how are you trinaths? | 08:00 |
trinaths | Doing good. thank you .. :) | 08:01 |
anteaya | good | 08:01 |
trinaths | my first meeting in 2015 | 08:01 |
anteaya | great | 08:01 |
trinaths | Happy New Year all | 08:01 |
anteaya | what shall we talk about, trinaths? | 08:02 |
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jyuso | hi anteaya,hi everyone.sorry I'm late:) | 08:02 |
anteaya | jyuso: hello, not to worry | 08:02 |
anteaya | we are just deciding what to talk about | 08:02 |
anteaya | jyuso: any thoughts? | 08:02 |
trinaths | I'm Currently working on the CI - an upgrade process. | 08:03 |
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anteaya | trinaths: great | 08:03 |
anteaya | how is that going? | 08:03 |
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trinaths | incorporating upgraded CRD (our service code) to the CI | 08:04 |
trinaths | we have less attendance today ?? I guess | 08:05 |
anteaya | we are just coming back from holidays for some | 08:05 |
anteaya | and russia is on holidays from the 1 to the 12 | 08:05 |
anteaya | the first week back after a break is sometimes tough for people | 08:05 |
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trinaths | :) | 08:06 |
anteaya | so what do you want to accomplish this week, regarding third party | 08:06 |
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trinaths | my self, had a TODO here, [1] Upgrade CRD service to 2 nodes of CI and [2] Enabled two more nodes for neutron-fwaas with updated CRD service - requirement for my FWaaS Plugin. | 08:09 |
anteaya | I'm taking my cue from you, so do speak up | 08:09 |
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anteaya | good | 08:09 |
trinaths | it takes some time for me to type | 08:09 |
anteaya | ah I see | 08:09 |
trinaths | :) | 08:09 |
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anteaya | how is step 1 coming along? | 08:09 |
trinaths | one server just now completed, so need to test with sandbox, and then divert to neutron. | 08:10 |
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anteaya | great | 08:10 |
trinaths | will clone the server-1 to server-2 so both share the task | 08:10 |
anteaya | I'm not sure you knew but we have a dedicated sandbox for ci | 08:10 |
jyuso | trinaths: May I ask a question about your step 1? | 08:11 |
trinaths | oh! I'm not aware of this. How is this different from normal sandbox | 08:11 |
trinaths | please go ahead. | 08:11 |
anteaya | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-dev/ci-sandbox/ | 08:11 |
trinaths | oh okay. Will use this. | 08:11 |
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anteaya | thank you | 08:12 |
anteaya | it hopefully will be less shocking for new devs using sandbox to practice the contributor's workflow to have fewer ci systems report on all their patches | 08:12 |
anteaya | jyuso: do ask your question of trinaths | 08:13 |
jyuso | trinaths: If we create a 2 node CI task.How did you create project and collect logst?I'm confused about how to collect logs in multi node environment. | 08:13 |
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trinaths | jyuso: in my setup jenkins + gearman + zuul gives jobs to the registered nodes. | 08:15 |
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trinaths | regarding posting of logs, I have written a custom script to upload the logs to the freescale hosted server in a specific location. The same is configured in Zuul and is posted as comment in gerrit. | 08:16 |
anteaya | jyuso: any reply? | 08:17 |
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trinaths | jyuso: Okay with the reply ? do u need more clarification | 08:18 |
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jyuso | trinaths:Yes.Thanks for your reply.I think it is very helpful. | 08:19 |
trinaths | okay | 08:19 |
anteaya | great | 08:20 |
anteaya | what else shall we discuss? | 08:21 |
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trinaths | no doubts from my end for now .. :) | 08:24 |
anteaya | great | 08:24 |
anteaya | anything else you want to accomplish | 08:25 |
anteaya | perhaps contributing back to infra? | 08:25 |
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jyuso | anteaya:Yes.If I want to do some jobs of infra,what could I do then? | 08:31 |
anteaya | thanks jyuso | 08:31 |
anteaya | well to start you could review patches | 08:31 |
anteaya | have you ever reviewed any openstack patches before? | 08:31 |
jyuso | anteaya: I'm planning to wirte some Tempest case of Ceilometer after our CI is online:) | 08:32 |
anteaya | great | 08:32 |
anteaya | so reviewing some tempest patches would be a good place to start | 08:32 |
anteaya | so you can learn what the tempest team likes to see in new tempest code | 08:32 |
anteaya | does that make sense? | 08:32 |
jyuso | anteaya: OK,thanks for your advice:) | 08:33 |
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anteaya | jyuso: have you reviewed any openstack patches before? | 08:33 |
jyuso | anteaya: not yet | 08:33 |
anteaya | okay good to know | 08:33 |
jyuso | anteaya: I just do deploy job | 08:33 |
jyuso | anteaya: and write some Tempest cases | 08:34 |
anteaya | okay | 08:34 |
anteaya | here is a good place to start learning how to review patches | 08:34 |
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anteaya | #link http://anteaya.info/blog/2013/03/21/reviewing-an-openstack-patch/ | 08:34 |
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anteaya | some people think they have to know everything about the code base before they review any patches | 08:35 |
anteaya | when in actual fact, learning how to give a good review helps you to learn the code | 08:35 |
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anteaya | as well as how to spot well written code as opposed to poorly written code | 08:35 |
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anteaya | these are all the open tempest patches | 08:37 |
anteaya | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest,n,z | 08:37 |
anteaya | so start anywhere and start to look at them | 08:37 |
anteaya | look for patterns | 08:37 |
anteaya | read what other reviewers have said | 08:37 |
anteaya | these people are the tempest core reviewers | 08:38 |
anteaya | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/42,members | 08:38 |
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anteaya | read what they say about patches | 08:38 |
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anteaya | just reading core reviewer comments on patches for 2 weeks will be a great use of your time | 08:39 |
anteaya | though you will think it won't | 08:39 |
anteaya | once you feel you have something to offer, even if it is just a question, post it as a comment on a patch | 08:39 |
anteaya | you start to get feedback on your reviewing style | 08:40 |
anteaya | and everyone benefits | 08:40 |
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anteaya | jyuso: does that make sense? | 08:40 |
jyuso | anteaya: thank you for your patience:) | 08:40 |
jyuso | anteaya: yes | 08:40 |
anteaya | great | 08:40 |
anteaya | my pleasure | 08:40 |
jyuso | anteaya: I'm reading your blog.so reply is a bit slow.sorry:) | 08:41 |
anteaya | happy to take the time to support someone contributing back | 08:41 |
anteaya | jyuso: ah | 08:41 |
anteaya | no problem, I understand | 08:41 |
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trinaths | do we have our own pypi ? | 08:51 |
anteaya | we had a mirror of pypi but got rid of it | 08:52 |
anteaya | #link http://pypi.openstack.org/ | 08:52 |
anteaya | so the server is still up but no content | 08:52 |
trinaths | then, in the requirements of the projects, there some version, >=1.1.0 like that, which are not atleast in pypi.python.org. | 08:53 |
anteaya | do you have an example? | 08:53 |
trinaths | in keystone, its oslo.db>=1.1.0 but in pypi.python.org, its 1.0.3 https://pypi.python.org/pypi/oslo.db | 08:54 |
trinaths | where to get this >=1.1.0 version ? | 08:54 |
anteaya | first I have to confirm what you are seeing in keystone | 08:55 |
trinaths | requirements.txt | 08:55 |
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anteaya | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/keystone/tree/requirements.txt#n24 | 08:56 |
anteaya | I see it | 08:56 |
trinaths | yes | 08:56 |
anteaya | jhesketh: you about? | 08:56 |
trinaths | pypi.openstack.org is empty. | 08:56 |
anteaya | yes it is | 08:56 |
trinaths | pypi.python.org has an lesser version. any idea on how to proceed on the same | 08:56 |
trinaths | i mean where to find the applicable/required version | 08:57 |
anteaya | olso.db has a 1.3.0 version, a 1.2.0 version, a 1.1.0 version: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/oslo.db/ | 08:57 |
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anteaya | and you are correct these versions are not on pypi.python.org | 08:58 |
anteaya | so in short I don't know yet, but I will find out | 08:58 |
anteaya | this is a good question, thanks trinaths | 08:59 |
trinaths | okay, so there is no need at all for querying pip for installaing these packages | 08:59 |
anteaya | I don't know | 08:59 |
anteaya | time to wrap up | 08:59 |
trinaths | every time, in my CI, I see that the packages in requirements.txt are instaled with pip | 08:59 |
anteaya | thanks for your attendance | 08:59 |
anteaya | trinaths: I will find out | 08:59 |
anteaya | see you next week | 09:00 |
anteaya | #endmeeting | 09:00 |
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jhesketh | anteaya: yep? | 09:00 |
openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 6 09:00:07 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-01-06-08.00.html | 09:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-01-06-08.00.txt | 09:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-01-06-08.00.log.html | 09:00 |
trinaths | okay | 09:00 |
trinaths | thanks anteaya | 09:00 |
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n0ano | #startmeeting gantt | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 6 15:00:20 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is n0ano. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'gantt' | 15:00 |
bauzas | \o | 15:00 |
n0ano | anyone here to talk about the scheduler? | 15:00 |
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PaulMurray | \o | 15:00 |
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edleafe | o/ | 15:00 |
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alex_xu | \o | 15:01 |
jaypipes | o/ | 15:01 |
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alex_xu | welcome back everyone :) | 15:01 |
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n0ano | let's begin | 15:01 |
jaypipes | thx, you too alex_xu | 15:01 |
n0ano | #topic status of cleanup work | 15:01 |
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* bauzas still thinks about his vacations... :( | 15:01 | |
* alex_xu is not leave | 15:01 | |
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n0ano | as we left things, we're in pretty good shape, that table at: | 15:02 |
n0ano | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Gantt/kilo | 15:02 |
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bauzas | so we'll need 2 exceptions | 15:02 |
n0ano | shows almost all the specs are approved expcet for the resoure object model & DB access for scheduler filters | 15:03 |
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n0ano | bauzas, indeed | 15:03 |
bauzas | right | 15:03 |
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n0ano | unfortunately, the exception process isn't defined yet, I assume we'll do that at the nova meeting this week | 15:03 |
bauzas | we need to wait formal clarification about the process then | 15:03 |
bauzas | +1 | 15:03 |
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edleafe | Now that everyone's back, feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138444/ would help while we iron out the exception process | 15:04 |
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n0ano | we'll certain push for our 2 exceptions, I don't think we'll have a problem | 15:04 |
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bauzas | edleafe: I'm not forgetting you ;) | 15:04 |
bauzas | edleafe: that said, I have lots of comments to do, starting by the commit msg | 15:04 |
bauzas | :) | 15:04 |
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jaypipes | edleafe: I already left my major comment about that... | 15:05 |
* bauzas readed too fast "I already lifted my major"... | 15:05 | |
edleafe | jaypipes: but I re-wrote it after, remember? | 15:05 |
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jaypipes | btw, guys, I have most of the resource-objects coding done. just been waiting on a patch from ndipanov/sahid to land around numa limit topology objects. | 15:05 |
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jaypipes | edleafe: ah, sorry ed | 15:06 |
edleafe | jaypipes: I didn | 15:06 |
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n0ano | jaypipes, coding before the spec is approved, a little gutsy isn't that? | 15:06 |
edleafe | jaypipes: I didn't ignore your comments. :) | 15:06 |
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jaypipes | n0ano: nope. it was essential to show people the PoC code for the blueprint during the spec review process. | 15:07 |
bauzas | n0ano: jaypipes likes to live in a dangerous way :) | 15:07 |
jaypipes | n0ano: also ironed out a few things in the spec while coding. | 15:07 |
n0ano | WFM, I just hope the spec review doesn't require a major rewrite | 15:07 |
bauzas | we all hope this | 15:07 |
PaulMurray | What's WFM - world food markets? | 15:08 |
jaypipes | n0ano: hey, what's one more when there's been like 12 already? ;P | 15:08 |
n0ano | jaypipes, so the spec hasn't been updated since mid-Dec, do you plan an update this week? | 15:08 |
lxsli | PaulMurray: works for me | 15:08 |
n0ano | PaulMurray, WFM = works for me | 15:08 |
* PaulMurray is just not down with the kids | 15:09 | |
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* n0ano refuses to act his age | 15:09 | |
bauzas | eh | 15:09 |
* bauzas gladly assuming his age | 15:09 | |
bauzas | provided I'm not shaving my beard... | 15:10 |
n0ano | anyway, jaypipes spec update? | 15:10 |
bauzas | anyway, we're diverting, are we ? | 15:10 |
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n0ano | hmm, jaypipes must be away, so instead... | 15:11 |
n0ano | edleafe, need any help on your spec other than reviews? | 15:11 |
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PaulMurray | edleafe, I will review later today | 15:11 |
bauzas | edleafe: count me in too | 15:11 |
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n0ano | edleafe, I should be able to add a voice | 15:12 |
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* n0ano is pulled in too many directions | 15:12 | |
edleafe | n0ano: No, reviews would be a good start | 15:12 |
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n0ano | all - if we can get a handfull of reviews before this Thurs that will probably help the exception request - no pressure here :-) | 15:13 |
bauzas | eh :) | 15:13 |
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jaypipes | n0ano: eh, sorry, three discussions going at once. | 15:14 |
n0ano | jaypipes, I figured, just curious about when the resource objest spec will be updated | 15:14 |
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jaypipes | n0ano: it needs reviewed, not updated. :) | 15:15 |
jaypipes | n0ano: it was the code that is waiting on sahid. | 15:15 |
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n0ano | jaypipes, that's even better, I was afraid it needed to change, reviews we can do | 15:16 |
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n0ano | #action all to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/127609/ & https://review.openstack.org/#/c/138444/ | 15:17 |
* bauzas wonders if he can +1 himself | 15:18 | |
n0ano | not sure my action worked but we all know what I meant | 15:18 |
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edleafe | bauzas: sounds naughty | 15:18 |
n0ano | I think that's enough on the specs for now | 15:18 |
n0ano | #topic opens | 15:18 |
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n0ano | anything else anyone wants to discuss | 15:19 |
PaulMurray | n0ano, two things | 15:19 |
n0ano | PaulMurray, thing 1? | 15:19 |
PaulMurray | n0ano, first - I am doing the compute node object in RT | 15:19 |
bauzas | PaulMurray: feel free to CC me on your patches | 15:19 |
bauzas | PaulMurray: I may have missed some | 15:19 |
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PaulMurray | n0ano, started last day before xmas and picked back up yesterday - may come for ideas as I go | 15:20 |
PaulMurray | bauzas, nothing pushed up yet | 15:20 |
bauzas | oh ok | 15:20 |
PaulMurray | bauzas, nearly | 15:20 |
PaulMurray | n0ano, thing 2 | 15:20 |
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n0ano | PaulMurray, ping us at will, we'll be glad to help | 15:20 |
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PaulMurray | n0ano, is it too early to consider what we want to talk about at the mid-cycle | 15:20 |
PaulMurray | ? | 15:20 |
PaulMurray | and who's going | 15:21 |
bauzas | well, at least do we know who's going ? | 15:21 |
bauzas | oh | 15:21 |
PaulMurray | I am | 15:21 |
bauzas | so, I'm in | 15:21 |
edleafe | I'll be there | 15:21 |
jaypipes | I'll be there as well. | 15:21 |
lxsli | o/ | 15:21 |
n0ano | PaulMurray, good question, I think a little early on what to talk about, let's see what happens with our exceptions and then progress | 15:21 |
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n0ano | I expect to be there | 15:21 |
bauzas | n0ano: violent agreemen,t | 15:21 |
PaulMurray | n0ano, something to think about as we go though | 15:22 |
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n0ano | PaulMurray, +1 | 15:22 |
bauzas | agreed | 15:22 |
n0ano | I'll add it to the agenda, we can start talking about subject next week and finalize shortly before the mid-cycle | 15:22 |
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bauzas | well, we probably need to wait for the midcycle etherpad | 15:23 |
bauzas | because it's not even discussed at the Nova level | 15:23 |
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bauzas | so we need to see which topics will come up | 15:23 |
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bauzas | we just need to make sure we can have proper timing for discussing related topics | 15:23 |
bauzas | but I'm not that worried | 15:23 |
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n0ano | bauzas, we can think/discuss about scheduler issues before hand, nothing concrete until things like the etherpad are up | 15:24 |
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bauzas | honestly, I think we'll reasonably discuss about our progress during midcycle | 15:24 |
bauzas | most of the specs have been approved | 15:24 |
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PaulMurray | I think we are pretty clear on what we are doing now, and the mid cycle is really for getting the end of the cycle lined up | 15:25 |
bauzas | but I don't think we'll discuss about the split itself | 15:25 |
bauzas | PaulMurray: +1 | 15:25 |
PaulMurray | but I would welcome the chance for side discussions on forward looking things | 15:25 |
n0ano | assuming we are making good progress on implementing the tasks we can start to think about the split in L and beyond | 15:25 |
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n0ano | anything else for today? | 15:26 |
bauzas | not from my side | 15:26 |
PaulMurray | I'm done | 15:26 |
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edleafe | me too | 15:26 |
* bauzas just saw that Ironic midcycle will be 5 min away from home, hurrah | 15:26 | |
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alex_xu | nothing from me | 15:27 |
n0ano | then, just to re-iterate, review everyone and we'll talk again next week | 15:27 |
n0ano | #endmeeting | 15:27 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 6 15:27:45 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:27 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gantt/2015/gantt.2015-01-06-15.00.html | 15:27 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gantt/2015/gantt.2015-01-06-15.00.txt | 15:27 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gantt/2015/gantt.2015-01-06-15.00.log.html | 15:27 |
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n0ano | bauzas, not sure about ironic timing, won't you be in the US then? | 15:28 |
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bauzas | n0ano: nope, that's week after | 15:28 |
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n0ano | bauzas, perfect | 15:28 |
bauzas | n0ano: so I should be able to attend both | 15:28 |
n0ano | I don't think I can talk my management into another international trip so soon :-( | 15:29 |
bauzas | :) | 15:29 |
bauzas | I can proxy your voice thou | 15:29 |
n0ano | that works | 15:29 |
bauzas | I don't have so much interest in Ironic, but the opportunity is there | 15:30 |
n0ano | keep an eye on them, I think they will have scheduler related issues that we will have to address | 15:30 |
bauzas | and that's really 10 mins by car... | 15:30 |
bauzas | at least the snow arrived, so they won't be disappointed :) | 15:31 |
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n0ano | :-) | 15:32 |
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primeministerp | #startmeeting hyper-v | 16:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 6 16:01:47 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is primeministerp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hyper-v)" | 16:01 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hyper_v' | 16:01 |
primeministerp | alexpilotti: hey there | 16:02 |
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alexpilotti | primeministerp: hey there | 16:02 |
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primeministerp | #topic #blueprint status | 16:03 |
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primeministerp | alexpilotti: care to give a quick update of where things are | 16:04 |
alexpilotti | so, we have a medium BP in pole position | 16:04 |
alexpilotti | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-rescue | 16:04 |
alexpilotti | all the rest are on “low”: | 16:04 |
alexpilotti | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-generation-2-vms | 16:04 |
alexpilotti | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-ovs-vif | 16:04 |
alexpilotti | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-remotefx | 16:05 |
alexpilotti | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-test-refactoring | 16:05 |
alexpilotti | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyper-v-vnic-hot-plug | 16:05 |
alexpilotti | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/hyperv-serial-ports | 16:05 |
alexpilotti | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/keypair-x509-certificates | 16:05 |
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alexpilotti | all have been implemented, with some simplifying changes to be done on hyper-v-generation-2-vms and hyper-v-remotefx | 16:06 |
alexpilotti | discussed today on the Nova channel | 16:06 |
primeministerp | nice | 16:06 |
primeministerp | alexpilotti: good work | 16:06 |
alexpilotti | for the rest we’re just waiting for reviews | 16:07 |
alexpilotti | most of hyper-v-test-refactoring merged | 16:07 |
alexpilotti | but there are still 5 patches that need reviews | 16:07 |
primeministerp | alexpilotti: so we're again inthe usual pattern of holding until key pieces get reviewed | 16:08 |
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alexpilotti | yes, usual code-wait-panic-postpone-to-next-cycle pattern :-D | 16:08 |
primeministerp | alexpilotti: ok | 16:08 |
primeministerp | alexpilotti: bugs it is | 16:09 |
primeministerp | #topic bugs! | 16:09 |
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primeministerp | alexpilotti: openbugs? | 16:09 |
alexpilotti | we’re ranking definitely well on the bugs side | 16:09 |
alexpilotti | nothing new ATM, except an iSCSI issue on HP storage | 16:10 |
alexpilotti | sagar will send a patch | 16:10 |
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alexpilotti | which is great, as we need access to teh HP storage to test it | 16:10 |
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primeministerp | alexpilotti: do we need to reach out to the hp friends to get access? | 16:11 |
alexpilotti | not necessarily | 16:11 |
primeministerp | alexpilotti: are they going to test it for us? | 16:11 |
alexpilotti | the issue is simply related to teh fact that their storage needs CHAP credentials during portal login | 16:12 |
alexpilotti | unlike others that need them on target attach only | 16:12 |
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alexpilotti | it’s a very simple patch | 16:12 |
alexpilotti | not affecting other iSCSI targets | 16:12 |
primeministerp | alexpilotti: gotcha | 16:13 |
alexpilotti | for the rest as usual our bug fixes are just waiting reviews | 16:13 |
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alexpilotti | all of them have been backported in the downstream repos | 16:13 |
primeministerp | alexpilotti: ok | 16:13 |
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alexpilotti | and backported to Juno as well | 16:13 |
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primeministerp | good to know | 16:14 |
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primeministerp | #topic ci | 16:15 |
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primeministerp | few things to add | 16:15 |
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primeministerp | everyone is back after holiday | 16:15 |
primeministerp | we've got lots of infrastructure to stand up | 16:16 |
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primeministerp | hoping w/ that we'll get more testing upstream | 16:16 |
primeministerp | alexpilotti: that's all i have for today | 16:17 |
primeministerp | alexpilotti: anything else? | 16:17 |
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alexpilotti | that’s all for me as well! | 16:17 |
primeministerp | kk | 16:17 |
primeministerp | thx | 16:17 |
primeministerp | #endmeeting | 16:17 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 6 16:17:57 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:17 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2015/hyper_v.2015-01-06-16.01.html | 16:18 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2015/hyper_v.2015-01-06-16.01.txt | 16:18 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hyper_v/2015/hyper_v.2015-01-06-16.01.log.html | 16:18 |
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stevemar | o/ | 18:00 |
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nonameentername | o/ | 18:00 |
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atiwari | o/ | 18:00 |
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topol | o/ | 18:01 |
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bknudson | hi | 18:01 |
gyee | \o | 18:01 |
jorge_munoz | o/ | 18:01 |
nkinder | o/ | 18:01 |
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gyee | topol, sorry about the Steelers | 18:01 |
stevemar | is morganfainberg around? | 18:01 |
morganfainberg | yep | 18:01 |
stevemar | ping for meeting dolphm, ayoung, bknudson, dstanek, jamielennox, morganfainberg, stevemar, gyee, henrynash, topol, marekd, lbragstad, joesavak, shardy, fabiog, nkinder, lloydm, shrekuma, ksavich, hrybacki, rharwood, grantbow, vdreamarkitex, raildo, rodrigods, amakarov, ajayaa, hogepodge, breton, lhcheng, nonameentername, samuelms, htruta, amolock | 18:01 |
dolphm | o/ | 18:01 |
topol | gyee... face palm :-) | 18:01 |
rodrigods | o/ | 18:01 |
stevemar | there you are :) | 18:01 |
lbragstad | hi | 18:01 |
rodrigods | happy 2015 you all :) | 18:02 |
joesavak | o/ | 18:02 |
gyee | topol, as a suffering browns fan, I want to extend my warmest welcome to you to the "off season" | 18:02 |
morganfainberg | stevemar, was looking at the meeting agenda | 18:02 |
* ayoung here | 18:02 | |
morganfainberg | #startmeeting Keystone | 18:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 6 18:02:18 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is morganfainberg. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:02 |
stevemar | link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting | 18:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:02 |
morganfainberg | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting | 18:02 |
topol | gyee, LOL. enjoy rubbing it in! | 18:02 |
morganfainberg | we'll come back to henrynash's stuff at the end (since henry is on vacation) | 18:02 |
morganfainberg | welcome to 2015. | 18:03 |
rharwood | o/ | 18:03 |
morganfainberg | lets keep things moving in the right direction, and we'll be up on the milestone 2 in no-time | 18:03 |
morganfainberg | #topic Migration path for R/W LDAP spec | 18:03 |
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morganfainberg | jorge_munoz, o/ | 18:04 |
morganfainberg | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140175/ | 18:04 |
ayoung | Who needs R/W LDAP? Can we kill it? | 18:04 |
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morganfainberg | ayoung, not likely | 18:04 |
gyee | :) | 18:04 |
bknudson | just get rid of it | 18:04 |
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morganfainberg | joesavak, is jorge_munoz here? | 18:04 |
nkinder | +1 | 18:04 |
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dolphm | lbragstad: ^ | 18:05 |
joesavak | I think so - let me ping him | 18:05 |
lbragstad | yes | 18:05 |
* topol Im worried ayoung has dimensia setting in | 18:05 | |
lbragstad | he is | 18:05 |
lbragstad | he is typing | 18:05 |
lbragstad | furiously | 18:05 |
morganfainberg | hehe ok | 18:05 |
ayoung | topol, multiple dimensions | 18:05 |
jorge_munoz | Yes, I wanted to ask how much implementation detail needs to be in the spec for the new schema. Also, wanted to get some feed back on the downgrade path. | 18:05 |
ayoung | "new schema" meaning what? We should not be specifying a schema | 18:05 |
gyee | we generally suck at downgrade | 18:05 |
ayoung | LDAP is written to work with existing schemas. I would say more like: | 18:06 |
ayoung | "base level assumptions of schema..." | 18:06 |
morganfainberg | the current r/w ldap is bad and probably should be removed. however there is a desire to keep r/w ldap from a few sources. | 18:06 |
dolphm | jorge_munoz: avoid implementation detail in the spec, in general, otherwise +1 for ayoung | 18:06 |
* ayoung reads spec | 18:07 | |
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ayoung | jorge_munoz, jorge_munoz So...why LDAP? Is it the replication story that you need? | 18:08 |
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dolphm | morganfainberg: are all those sources represented here right now? | 18:08 |
morganfainberg | dolphm, should be. | 18:09 |
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morganfainberg | dolphm, i have been chasing down who else uses it. | 18:09 |
ayoung | Note that I am not categorically against LDAP as a backend, just that the number of Orgs requesting support for it has dropped to 1. | 18:09 |
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gyee | uno? | 18:09 |
jorge_munoz | @ayoung We have an identity system that uses an LDAP backend for both read and writes. | 18:09 |
ayoung | I kindof like LDAP for assignments, but can't personally justify the time it takes to support it. | 18:09 |
morganfainberg | dolphm, there were more at one point, but i can't get anyone to respond now. so | 18:09 |
morganfainberg | dolphm, it'd be what rackspace is asking for. | 18:09 |
bknudson | use your ldap tools to update your ldap directory | 18:10 |
bknudson | we shouldn't have to provide a new tool for doing ldap updates | 18:10 |
dolphm | morganfainberg: i'm not sure it's what rackspace needs at all, but i could be too far out of the loop | 18:10 |
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morganfainberg | dolphm, at this point, that spec is what i have to go on. | 18:10 |
ayoung | bknudson, replace LDAP with SQL in that statement and see how much it makes you shudder | 18:10 |
morganfainberg | dolphm, so, i'm willing to let jorge_munoz and joesavak make the case | 18:11 |
joesavak | ayoung - LDAP due to service level agreement with vendor, replication rules that we have, and the current integrations we have with it. | 18:11 |
bknudson | it's common to have applications define their own sql schema. | 18:11 |
bknudson | it's also not very smart | 18:11 |
gyee | jorge_munoz, in light of the proposed project reform (http://governance.openstack.org/resolutions/20141202-project-structure-reform-spec.html), its a good time to test the new water with this thing :) | 18:11 |
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morganfainberg | gyee, negative | 18:11 |
gyee | hey, if we are going to separate out IdP from Keystone, why now? | 18:11 |
morganfainberg | gyee, that would be the equivalent of writing their own keystone afaik | 18:11 |
morganfainberg | gyee, which is not what is being proposed here | 18:12 |
gyee | hell yeah | 18:12 |
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ayoung | so Identity is for users, but I understood Rack to need Assignment support as well, right? | 18:12 |
joesavak | right | 18:12 |
jorge_munoz | correct | 18:12 |
morganfainberg | gyee, that is a different bit of work, first off we need the split - not "go write your own keystone to get a split" | 18:12 |
dolphm | joesavak: jorge_munoz: is there anyone else interested in using the same architecture as rackspace? | 18:12 |
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dolphm | joesavak: jorge_munoz: i'm wondering if rackspace's solution should be open source, but perhaps not upstream / maintained by keystone core | 18:13 |
morganfainberg | gyee, slightly different. don't force a complete re-write of keystone to get the split, the split should happen independently | 18:13 |
gyee | but this is a lot of rewrite as is | 18:13 |
gyee | just saying | 18:14 |
morganfainberg | gyee, the split should occur *anyway*. please take that off the table as part of this dicussion | 18:14 |
gyee | anyway, I don't have a problem either way | 18:14 |
morganfainberg | keep this focused on r/w ldap, support of it going forward. | 18:14 |
morganfainberg | etc | 18:14 |
jorge_munoz | @dolphm It could be but having a cleaner implementation give better option of deployers | 18:14 |
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joesavak | dolphm - heard from a few large customers that they are interested in it for their private cloud deploys. Sit on top of exisitng LDAP and not use federation as they don't have ADFS or consider it too c omplex. | 18:14 |
ayoung | jorge_munoz, and joesavak can you guys get some feedback from the operators and other users who else is interested in LDAP support for Assignments | 18:15 |
ayoung | ? | 18:15 |
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bknudson | if they have existing ldap then that's not r/w ldap | 18:15 |
ayoung | bknudson, the Rack rational is replication, which is what CERN was using it for as well | 18:15 |
ayoung | LDAP has a better multi-site story than MySQL | 18:16 |
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bknudson | then they should pick a database that supports it better | 18:16 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, to a very limited scale without insane topology that rivals sql in complexity and risk | 18:16 |
ayoung | morganfainberg, LDAP as a domain controller (jhosts, hierarchical) is very well trodden territory | 18:17 |
morganfainberg | ldap and sql have different scale concerns, but both are largely solved. | 18:17 |
ayoung | jhost-> just hosts | 18:17 |
jorge_munoz | @ayoung Sure, we can do some in inquiries on who would be a consumer of the LDAP drivers. | 18:17 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, it's bad when you get to 10-20 sites, your topoligy for replication is as complex/more risky per-addtion/change to the layout [not data] as SQL | 18:17 |
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morganfainberg | it's all bad for unified replication. | 18:18 |
bknudson | so we're talking about replacing the current LDAP implementation with a new one? (that's going to be awesome) | 18:18 |
ayoung | jorge_munoz, it sounds like the biggest thing you are looking for is upgrade/downgrade support, which is likely to be Directory Server specific. | 18:18 |
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ayoung | what are you guys using? | 18:18 |
ayoung | if you care to share... | 18:18 |
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jorge_munoz | We want to target 389 | 18:18 |
ayoung | :) | 18:18 |
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ayoung | morganfainberg, I think perhaps out-of-tree makes sense for this effort | 18:19 |
ayoung | would a keystoneldap project make sense? | 18:19 |
bknudson | if this is out-of-tree do we keep the old ldap? | 18:19 |
ayoung | bknudson, I think maybe we pare it down to RO Identity | 18:20 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, i'm willing to do ML/survey etc work to find out if we can deprecate r/w ldap | 18:20 |
morganfainberg | well, deprecate ldap assignment, and separately r/w ldap identity | 18:20 |
jorge_munoz | There might still be users who want to user their own schmea | 18:20 |
bknudson | that sounds great | 18:20 |
morganfainberg | two different concerns | 18:20 |
ayoung | jorge_munoz, joesavak you guys need multiple domains with R/W LDAP Assignement? | 18:20 |
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lbragstad | so it sounds like the best option here would be to build this out of the keystone tree | 18:21 |
lbragstad | so possibly stackforge? | 18:21 |
joesavak | agree with Jorge - the backend schema for LDAP should be implementor choice. | 18:21 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, bknudson, if we ask this to go out of tree, short of saying "go write your own keystone" we would need to agree to solidifying the manager-api for assignment and/or identity | 18:21 |
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bknudson | if the backend schema is up to the implementor you'll have all sorts of options... so what's different with the existing ldap implementation? | 18:22 |
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gyee | ok, we'll all on the same page then :) | 18:22 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, bknudson, i would like to avoid saying "go write your own keystone" [that feels like the wrong stance to take right now to keep the community close] | 18:22 |
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lbragstad | morganfainberg: ++ | 18:22 |
ayoung | joesavak, jorge_munoz if you are already targetting 389, lets get a discussion going between your team and the FreeIPA team. Perhaps we can handle this as stackforge effort | 18:22 |
bknudson | morganfainberg: and resources! | 18:23 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, yes. | 18:23 |
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bknudson | (noting that we can't solidify the api since we change it all the time) | 18:23 |
morganfainberg | but we should work to make that interface very stable/non-changing anyway | 18:23 |
morganfainberg | but that is something we've not committed to yet. | 18:24 |
morganfainberg | this comes to that whole "better pluggable architecture" conversation | 18:24 |
joesavak | so are we saying any schema different than the one in place right now that needs driver development - that driver dev needs to be in stackforge? (lost) | 18:24 |
morganfainberg | where things plugin shouldn't change massively - just like the REST api shouldn't. | 18:24 |
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morganfainberg | joesavak, that would sum up the general view - unless i'm miss reading things ( ayoung ?) | 18:25 |
bknudson | is that the problem that the LDAP rewrite is trying to solve? the schema is wrong? | 18:25 |
ayoung | joesavak, right now LDAP is very light on schema requirments, which works for Identity, but does not really work for Assignments. I think that targetting something more rigid like a FreeIPA Hostgroup/project design would work better | 18:25 |
ayoung | bknudson, plus no way to do migrations | 18:25 |
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morganfainberg | bknudson, it's trying to solve the "we've tried to wedge keystone into current ldap schemas when keystone controls everything" - it's a poor representation of what we support because the LDAP schema (default) isn't designed to handle the assignment backend | 18:26 |
morganfainberg | the identity backend is much closer to what a normal LDAP schema would support. | 18:26 |
joesavak | i like the other approach of surveying user of ldap schema in place, or perhaps versioning them to get to a schema that handles assignments too | 18:26 |
morganfainberg | if assignment is meant ot be r/w it probably should have it's own schema | 18:26 |
ayoung | An IPA backend for Keystone would probably be easier, as it would let you do things like creating users and hosts at the Python level as opposed to direct LDAP calls | 18:27 |
morganfainberg | whether that is in-tree or out. | 18:27 |
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morganfainberg | ayoung, ok we need to isolate the conversation, identity OR assignment? | 18:27 |
morganfainberg | which are you talking about now. | 18:27 |
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morganfainberg | because we're crossing them all over this conversation and they are different concerns | 18:28 |
ayoung | morganfainberg, I'm actually talking about the Write side of LDAP for both | 18:28 |
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marekd | o/ sorry i am late | 18:28 |
ayoung | Identity LDAP is primariy R/O | 18:28 |
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ayoung | the R/W discussions is for both Id and assignement | 18:28 |
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morganfainberg | ayoung, and assignment in LDAP is a poor representation of what keystone supports | 18:28 |
ayoung | but is, I think, a niche case | 18:28 |
bknudson | I don't see that they're different concerns... we should either support LDAP or not support it... right now it's kind-of supported. | 18:28 |
morganfainberg | regardless of r/w or r/o | 18:28 |
joesavak | having 2 non-conflicting schemas for LDAP (assignment & ID) may work - needs more research | 18:28 |
gyee | great topic for the upcoming meetup | 18:29 |
ayoung | joesavak, and you need multi-domain, too, right? | 18:29 |
nonameentername | bknudson ++ | 18:29 |
jorge_munoz | ayoung: yes | 18:29 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, we can't remove ldap identity in the near term (read/only) that is for sure. but that isn't a hard sell or missing anything really from what we support | 18:29 |
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dolphm | morganfainberg: but we could deprecate it | 18:29 |
ayoung | jorge_munoz, jorge_munoz nkinder OK, lets table the rest of the discussion,and the 4 of us should set up a meeting instead | 18:29 |
dolphm | i assume that's all we're discussing here | 18:29 |
morganfainberg | dolphm, this is the issue we are discussing 3 things: identity r/o, identity r/w, assignment ldap | 18:30 |
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ayoung | er..the second jorge_munoz should have been joesavak | 18:30 |
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ayoung | morganfainberg, I think I would suggest the following: | 18:30 |
morganfainberg | dolphm, some of that could be deprecated, some could be sooner vs later | 18:30 |
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ayoung | 1. Remove R/W from Keystone as is. 2. Work with Rackspace to come up with a solution specuific to their needs | 18:31 |
morganfainberg | i think the answer is ML/survey on LDAP assignment (both) - ML/Survey on R/w identity (seprate), leave r/o identity for now as is | 18:31 |
jorge_munoz | ayoung: we don’t want to modify the current implemetation just yet | 18:31 |
joesavak | +1 morgan | 18:31 |
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ayoung | jorge_munoz, I understand. We can help on that | 18:31 |
morganfainberg | if we're clear (less people/no one using) on the r/w front we can deprecate them, slate for removal in M | 18:32 |
morganfainberg | i am near positive assignment will be able to go | 18:32 |
ayoung | jorge_munoz, the R/W code as it exists is crap. I should know, I wrote it. | 18:32 |
ayoung | It makes a lot of assumptions, but FreeIPA was in my mind when I made those assumptions | 18:32 |
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morganfainberg | r/w identity *may* go, may need to wait till we split the identity part out and fully support something better (e.g. FreeIPA interface/separate API to manage things, etc) | 18:32 |
ayoung | So if you need W/R LDAP, it should be do-able | 18:32 |
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morganfainberg | and r/o ldap identity can be evaluated once the r/w stories are dealt with | 18:33 |
jorge_munoz | yes | 18:33 |
joesavak | ayoung - sounds like a good collab opportunity. We'll discuss offline | 18:33 |
lbragstad | morganfainberg: jorge_munoz ++ | 18:33 |
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morganfainberg | #action joesavak and jorge_munoz to poll deployers on LDAP use-cases | 18:34 |
morganfainberg | #action morganfainberg to sent ML topics and surveys to determine use of ldap assignment (possible deprecation) | 18:34 |
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morganfainberg | #action morganfainberg to send ML topics and surveys to determine use of read/write identity with LDAP (possible deprecation) | 18:34 |
morganfainberg | #action ayoung nkinder jorge_munoz joesavak to work offline to look at out-of-tree implementation to cover specific use-cases. | 18:35 |
morganfainberg | does that cover everything? | 18:35 |
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joesavak | yup | 18:36 |
morganfainberg | anything anynoe else wants to add before we move on? | 18:36 |
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morganfainberg | #topic AEToken Specification | 18:36 |
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morganfainberg | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130050/ | 18:36 |
morganfainberg | lbragstad o/ | 18:36 |
lbragstad | there has been some discussion on the spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130050/23/specs/kilo/ae-tokens.rst | 18:36 |
lbragstad | specifically between nonameentername and gyee | 18:37 |
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lbragstad | around the token_version | 18:37 |
lbragstad | vs. token_format | 18:37 |
bknudson | bikeshedding | 18:37 |
lbragstad | and what all needs to be known in order to determine how to unpack the token | 18:37 |
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gyee | lbragstad, what's the problem? I don't have any issue with the spec | 18:38 |
gyee | lgtm | 18:38 |
ayoung | OK, so I'm lukewarm about AE | 18:38 |
lbragstad | nonameentername: could you elaborate on the point you were making? | 18:38 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, as long as we have a non-persistent provider in kilo and an easy way to get new providers in, i'm happy | 18:38 |
morganfainberg | the non-persistent provider could be AE, it could be PKI based, etc | 18:39 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, having 1 is important. | 18:39 |
ayoung | morganfainberg, AE as writtend doesn't meet that requirement | 18:39 |
nonameentername | during deployments of keystone there is a period of time when there are two releases. There should be a way to tell what version the token is. | 18:39 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, it does. | 18:39 |
ayoung | AE does not record role assignements | 18:39 |
ayoung | they are recreated | 18:39 |
jamielennox | lbragstad: this seems like something that can be easily added later if we need it | 18:39 |
gyee | ayoung, it doesn't need to be, just the scope is enough | 18:39 |
lbragstad | nonameentername: and that assumes there is something different, data-wise, between the two tokens | 18:39 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, that doesn't mean it doesn't meet the non-persistent qualifier | 18:39 |
ayoung | morganfainberg, it means we've redefined what is meant by a token | 18:40 |
nonameentername | lbragstad: yes | 18:40 |
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morganfainberg | ayoung, like i said, as long as we have a non-persistent provider this cycle i'm happy. | 18:40 |
ayoung | we have that now with PKIZ | 18:40 |
lbragstad | nonameentername: so, with that | 18:40 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, no we don't PKIZ is not-non-persistent as is there is work that is needed to get there on either front | 18:40 |
lbragstad | nonameentername: we can add two extra bits and leave those for the driver to determine what they need it for | 18:40 |
ayoung | we just need to make PKIZ small enough | 18:40 |
ayoung | OK...so | 18:41 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, PKIZ could be the basis, i'm not concerned with which one we end up with or if we have multiples - as long as we hit a non-persistent provider. | 18:41 |
ayoung | 1. We need a registry of token formats. Please review that spec | 18:41 |
ayoung | 2. We need revocation events regardless | 18:41 |
nonameentername | lbragstad: that would work. | 18:41 |
morganfainberg | ayoung, invert those two in priority. | 18:41 |
ayoung | 3. Revocation events was written in March | 18:41 |
morganfainberg | but yes | 18:41 |
lbragstad | nonameentername: so, something like AE0001? | 18:41 |
ayoung | morganfainberg, they are orthogonal | 18:41 |
ayoung | we need both | 18:41 |
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ayoung | AE spec needs special work for Trusts and OAuth as I recall | 18:42 |
nonameentername | lbragstad: yes | 18:42 |
ayoung | has that been addressed? | 18:42 |
lbragstad | ayoung: I reviewed token registry | 18:42 |
ayoung | lbragstad, thank you | 18:42 |
morganfainberg | lbragstad, nonameentername, i think this is a topic that is into implem,entation details now | 18:43 |
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morganfainberg | lbragstad, nonameentername, and it does sound a lot like bikeshedding | 18:43 |
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ayoung | I think we can work through the rest of my reservactions on AE, but you need to be dilligent | 18:44 |
bknudson | let's just realize that specs aren't written in stone and it's not a justification in a review to say that this was agreed on in the spec. | 18:44 |
morganfainberg | can we continue this in -keystone channel, and work to resolve the issues before looking at AEToken as a viable in-tree provider? | 18:44 |
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ayoung | there are a lot of assumptions we need to make explicit | 18:44 |
lbragstad | bknudson: ++ | 18:44 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, ++ that works. | 18:44 |
nonameentername | morganfainberg: I agree, this can be done when impelmenting the code. | 18:44 |
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bknudson | I'd like to see what the code looks like and also get the other required changes in... e.g., revocation events | 18:45 |
morganfainberg | ok lets move on. | 18:45 |
morganfainberg | #action *EVERYONE* review revocation events - help to get it in place as the default to replace the revocation list | 18:45 |
morganfainberg | moving on | 18:46 |
morganfainberg | #topic Assignment split | 18:46 |
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morganfainberg | Henry isn't here, but he's split the review up | 18:46 |
stevemar | mr nash is not present :( | 18:46 |
morganfainberg | please start reviewing it | 18:46 |
morganfainberg | starts here: | 18:46 |
morganfainberg | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/144239/ | 18:46 |
topol | rumor is he is in Hawaii? | 18:46 |
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bknudson | let's spread that rumor | 18:47 |
gyee | business or pleasure | 18:47 |
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lbragstad | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/keystone+branch:master+topic:bp/pluggable-assignments,n,z | 18:47 |
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morganfainberg | moving on | 18:47 |
morganfainberg | #topic Spec Review | 18:47 |
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stevemar | gyee, why not both | 18:47 |
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morganfainberg | Please review specs. Lets get the easy ones in prior to the meetup. | 18:47 |
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morganfainberg | #topic BPs / reviews that do not need specs | 18:48 |
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stevemar | marekd's got a nice spec for redefining the way we get a scoped token for federation | 18:48 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, o/ | 18:48 |
stevemar | it's probably the smallest spec that's up there | 18:48 |
bknudson | refactor keystone-all and http/keystone | 18:48 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, you have these please lead us on it. but in short if we agree - we'll note it and those can be merged w/o a spec | 18:48 |
morganfainberg | looking at these i think they can safely be done w/o a spec. (personally) | 18:49 |
marekd | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/145204/ | 18:49 |
marekd | and the spec is indeed tiny | 18:49 |
bknudson | so this is about moving code out of keystone-all / http/keystone into keystone.* and then reuse code | 18:49 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, ++ | 18:49 |
bknudson | I don't know if we need a vote or what? | 18:49 |
marekd | required for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130593 | 18:49 |
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marekd | stevemar: thanks for bringing it here :-) | 18:50 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, can do a vote | 18:50 |
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bknudson | or, if someone doesn't like the explanation on the meeting, can complain about a specific one and then I'll write a spec | 18:51 |
morganfainberg | #startvote Does the refactor of keystone-all and http/keystone need a spec? Yes, No, Abstain | 18:51 |
openstack | Begin voting on: Does the refactor of keystone-all and http/keystone need a spec? Valid vote options are Yes, No, Abstain. | 18:51 |
openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 18:51 |
bknudson | #vote No | 18:51 |
morganfainberg | #vote no | 18:51 |
breton | #vote No | 18:52 |
topol | #vote No | 18:52 |
jamielennox | #vote NO | 18:53 |
joesavak | #vote Abstain | 18:53 |
* joesavak feels like a true politician now | 18:53 | |
breton | I'm not sure why refactors would even need a spec | 18:53 |
morganfainberg | joesavak, I cannot confirm nor deny | 18:53 |
morganfainberg | joesavak or "I am not a crook"? | 18:53 |
* topol joesavak show some backbone spineless jello | 18:54 | |
joesavak | one of my aides typed that in. I was on the golf course. | 18:54 |
morganfainberg | breton, some refactors are large - and have a lot of moving parts | 18:54 |
dolphm | #vote No | 18:54 |
morganfainberg | breton, this is the whole reason we added the "some bps don't need specs" concept. | 18:54 |
dolphm | i don't think refactors ever need a spec, unless somehow that refactor impacts end users | 18:54 |
dolphm | in which case, it's not a refactor | 18:54 |
morganfainberg | dolphm, want to proxy for dstanek ? ;) | 18:54 |
topol | I did not have relations with that code module keystone-all | 18:54 |
morganfainberg | topol, LOL | 18:55 |
morganfainberg | #showvote | 18:55 |
openstack | Abstain (1): joesavak | 18:55 |
openstack | No (6): morganfainberg, bknudson, dolphm, jamielennox, breton, topol | 18:55 |
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bknudson | topol: just wait for the stained dress. | 18:55 |
joesavak | my vote was bought. | 18:55 |
morganfainberg | anyone else? lbragstad, ayoung, stevemar nkinder | 18:55 |
breton | morganfainberg: why a bug isn't enought? How do we differentiate no-spec-refactoring and bug-is-enough refactoring? | 18:55 |
morganfainberg | marekd | 18:55 |
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gyee | #vote nO | 18:56 |
rodrigods | gyee, tester heh | 18:56 |
breton | *enough | 18:56 |
jamielennox | morganfainberg: safe to say it's No i think | 18:56 |
morganfainberg | #endvote | 18:56 |
openstack | Voted on "Does the refactor of keystone-all and http/keystone need a spec?" Results are | 18:56 |
openstack | Abstain (1): joesavak | 18:56 |
openstack | No (7): gyee, morganfainberg, bknudson, dolphm, jamielennox, breton, topol | 18:56 |
morganfainberg | yeah bknudson , i'd say it's all good | 18:56 |
bknudson | ok, I'll put a blueprint on it. | 18:56 |
stevemar | #vote no | 18:56 |
morganfainberg | breton, it's because some refactors have a lot of moving parts. | 18:56 |
stevemar | nooo i missed it | 18:56 |
morganfainberg | stevemar, late to the game! | 18:56 |
bknudson | next is "refactoring keystonemiddleware to extract classes" | 18:57 |
ayoung | #vote no | 18:57 |
stevemar | does it even need a blueprint? | 18:57 |
lbragstad | #note no | 18:57 |
lbragstad | #vote no | 18:57 |
jamielennox | stevemar: if it all goes to hell you can at least say it wasnt your fault | 18:57 |
ayoung | #note vo | 18:57 |
stevemar | #note vo | 18:57 |
morganfainberg | breton, and *could* impact deployers and/or users | 18:57 |
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lbragstad | stevemar: my dyslexia has set in | 18:57 |
ayoung | #tone loc | 18:57 |
dolphm | if we're using voting, you need to end the previous vote first | 18:57 |
morganfainberg | i did! | 18:57 |
morganfainberg | dolphm, ^^ | 18:57 |
topol | #vote no | 18:57 |
morganfainberg | i just haven't started the next vote | 18:57 |
morganfainberg | :P | 18:57 |
ayoung | #phone home | 18:58 |
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morganfainberg | #startvote refactor keystonemiddleware to extract classes need a spec? yes, no, idontlikepolls | 18:58 |
openstack | Begin voting on: refactor keystonemiddleware to extract classes need a spec? Valid vote options are yes, no, idontlikepolls. | 18:58 |
openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 18:58 |
bknudson | #vote no | 18:58 |
morganfainberg | #vote no | 18:58 |
dolphm | #vote no | 18:58 |
jamielennox | #vote no | 18:58 |
stevemar | can we start up an etherpad for the hackathon? | 18:58 |
breton | well, ok. IMO it wasn't even worth voting. | 18:58 |
stevemar | get some goals outlined there | 18:58 |
marekd | #vote no | 18:58 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, and please do still use a BP (tag it to k2 and set a priority) | 18:58 |
marekd | (this time i didnt miss) | 18:59 |
bknudson | morganfainberg: I'll file bps for all these that we agree on. | 18:59 |
jamielennox | have we ever done a full spec for middleware? | 18:59 |
topol | #vote no | 18:59 |
gyee | #vote no | 18:59 |
gyee | just do it | 18:59 |
stevemar | #vote no | 18:59 |
morganfainberg | breton, the point of voting is to make sure we're clear on not needing a spec. | 18:59 |
morganfainberg | #showvote | 18:59 |
openstack | no (8): gyee, morganfainberg, bknudson, marekd, dolphm, jamielennox, stevemar, topol | 18:59 |
morganfainberg | going in 5 | 18:59 |
breton | #vote no | 19:00 |
morganfainberg | annnnnnnnddddd | 19:00 |
morganfainberg | #endvote | 19:00 |
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openstack | Voted on "refactor keystonemiddleware to extract classes need a spec?" Results are | 19:00 |
openstack | no (9): gyee, morganfainberg, bknudson, marekd, dolphm, jamielennox, stevemar, breton, topol | 19:00 |
dolphm | #vote bandwagon | 19:00 |
bknudson | out of time... can work on the rest next week | 19:00 |
morganfainberg | bknudson, ++ | 19:00 |
dolphm | \o/ | 19:00 |
morganfainberg | #endmeeting | 19:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 6 19:00:48 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2015/keystone.2015-01-06-18.02.html | 19:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2015/keystone.2015-01-06-18.02.txt | 19:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2015/keystone.2015-01-06-18.02.log.html | 19:00 |
sweston | o/ | 19:01 |
jeblair | howdy infra folks | 19:01 |
fungi | howdy! | 19:01 |
AJaeger | Happy New Year! | 19:01 |
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ianw | hi | 19:01 |
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zaro | o/ | 19:01 |
anteaya | o/ | 19:01 |
mordred | o/ | 19:01 |
yolanda | hi | 19:01 |
pleia2 | o/ | 19:01 |
jeblair | asselin: ping | 19:01 |
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jeblair | #startmeeting infra | 19:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 6 19:02:00 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jeblair. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:02 |
nibalizer | o/ | 19:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:02 |
jhesketh | Morning | 19:02 |
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asselin | hi | 19:02 |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:02 |
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krtaylor | o/ | 19:02 |
jeblair | #link agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:02 |
jeblair | #link last real meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2014/infra.2014-12-16-19.01.html | 19:02 |
jeblair | #link last informal meeting: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2014/infra.2014-12-23-19.03.html | 19:02 |
clarkb | o/ | 19:02 |
jeblair | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:02 |
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jeblair | jeblair rmlist -a third-party-requests | 19:02 |
jeblair | i did that | 19:02 |
jeblair | seems to be gone. :) | 19:03 |
timrc | o/ | 19:03 |
anteaya | awesome | 19:03 |
anteaya | thank you | 19:03 |
jeblair | #topic Schedule next project renames | 19:03 |
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jeblair | so it looks like we have 8 projects ready to go to the attic | 19:03 |
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AJaeger | annegentle_'s patch for the service-apis needs at least another iteration but that should be easy to do | 19:04 |
jeblair | i will not be available this weekend (SFO->AKL) | 19:04 |
fungi | we've generally treated attic moves as low-priority to be batched with more important renames as they arise | 19:04 |
jeblair | anyone around this weekend want to do it? otherwise, i'm available again in +2 weeks | 19:04 |
fungi | are these more urgent than normal | 19:05 |
fungi | ? | 19:05 |
jeblair | fungi: that's true. i don't think they are. | 19:05 |
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jeblair | want to defer for a few more weeks and see if anything else comes up? | 19:05 |
mordred | jeblair, fungi: also may want to move shade into openstack-infra at some point based on dib-nodepool things - but also not urgent | 19:05 |
fungi | i vote we just let them simmer until another rename request comes up with some urgency, yeah | 19:05 |
mordred | also, that is pending us deciding to do that | 19:05 |
mordred | oh - wait - that's not a rename | 19:05 |
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* AJaeger agrees with fungi | 19:06 | |
* mordred agrees with fungi | 19:06 | |
jeblair | mordred: well, we should still talk about it... maybe we can put that on a future meeting agenda | 19:06 |
anteaya | I have no objection to letting them simmer | 19:06 |
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jeblair | #agreed defer attic moves for a few more weeks pending further rename accumulation | 19:07 |
jeblair | and if nothing shows up after a while, we'll do them anyway | 19:07 |
clarkb | I am out this weekend and next so they aren't great for renames if I am doing them | 19:07 |
jeblair | #topic Priority Efforts - Swift logs | 19:07 |
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jhesketh | so the next step is to get the uploading script running in a venv so that it can install dependencies | 19:08 |
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jhesketh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142327/ | 19:08 |
anteaya | jhesketh: is that patch working and just waiting on being merged? | 19:08 |
jeblair | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142327/ | 19:08 |
AJaeger | jhesketh: is this needed for each and every job? Can't we update our base images so that they contain all dependencies? | 19:08 |
anteaya | ah sean has a concern | 19:09 |
jhesketh | well sdague had some feedback but I'd like to get another opinion as the method I used was the same for how we set up zuul | 19:09 |
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jhesketh | (long term we probably want to move the upload script to its own project as it has grown in features and it has even been suggested to use a templating engine) | 19:09 |
fungi | the concern is that installing dependencies of a python tool in the global system context on all our workers increases chances for conflict with things jobs themselves need | 19:10 |
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mordred | yes | 19:10 |
mordred | that's my concern as well - I'm supportive of running it in a venv | 19:10 |
fungi | zuul-cloner is run from a virtualenv for the puppet integration job for similar reasons | 19:10 |
jhesketh | right I think we agree on that... sdague's input was to have the job set up the venv itself rather than as part of the setup process | 19:11 |
mordred | I do also agree with sean's concern though - and that should be easy enough to fix | 19:11 |
jeblair | i'm not sure i agree with it. there's nothing wrong with using full paths when invoking programs | 19:11 |
jeblair | but at any rate, there's the change to review | 19:12 |
jeblair | jhesketh: anything else blocking? | 19:12 |
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jhesketh | there are some related changes but they are not blocking | 19:12 |
jhesketh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143340/ after the venv is merged | 19:13 |
jeblair | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143340/ | 19:13 |
jhesketh | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141286/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141277/ add in improvements to the index generation that were requested | 19:13 |
jeblair | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141286/ | 19:13 |
jeblair | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141277/ | 19:13 |
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jeblair | jhesketh: anything else? | 19:14 |
jhesketh | nope :-) | 19:15 |
jeblair | thanks! | 19:15 |
jeblair | #topic Priority Efforts - Puppet module split | 19:15 |
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jeblair | asselin: so last time you were proposing some changes to stage a bunch of split work at once | 19:15 |
asselin | So after last meeting, I proposed a spec update to optimize the split work: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143689/ | 19:15 |
asselin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143689/ | 19:15 |
asselin | If we agree, then I'd like to do a mini sprint to get these done in batches. | 19:17 |
anteaya | well we have a problem | 19:17 |
anteaya | that needs to be addressed | 19:17 |
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anteaya | with repo replication | 19:17 |
nibalizer | im not familiar with that problem | 19:18 |
anteaya | which zaro jesusarus and I have been trying to get to the bottom of | 19:18 |
jeblair | asselin: wait, so are you abandoning your idea of combining the prep work into one change? | 19:18 |
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anteaya | happened yesterday with the lodgeit split | 19:18 |
asselin | jeblair, no | 19:18 |
asselin | jeblair, just one 2nd change b/c it introduces too many conflicts. | 19:18 |
anteaya | after the merge to project-config the repo didn't end up on 3 of 5 git servers | 19:18 |
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jeblair | anteaya: let's talk about that leater | 19:18 |
jeblair | later | 19:19 |
anteaya | okay | 19:19 |
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jeblair | asselin: do you have a change prepared that does all of the prep work? | 19:19 |
asselin | jeblair, yes | 19:19 |
asselin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140523/ | 19:19 |
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asselin | reviewers prefered getting agreement via spec, and I agreed it would clarify the plan | 19:20 |
jeblair | hrm | 19:20 |
jeblair | well, i don't see how your large change was different than a simple optimization of what's in the spec | 19:20 |
jeblair | wheras you have actually added quite a lot of stuff to the spec that's going to need to go through some significant review | 19:21 |
jeblair | so i'm not sure that this is the most expeditious process | 19:21 |
asselin | well, I can go either way, honestly :) | 19:21 |
jeblair | if anyone actually objects to the approach in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140523/10 let's just hear it now | 19:21 |
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* nibalizer no objection | 19:22 | |
anteaya | as long as anyone can do a puppet module split out and find current instructions for doing so, that works for me | 19:22 |
jeblair | jesusaurus: you had an objection in the review | 19:22 |
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jesusaurus | im not sure what the benefit is of that approach | 19:22 |
jesusaurus | and i think the current process keeps changes logically together | 19:22 |
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jeblair | jesusaurus: fewer and smaller changes to review while going through the process? | 19:23 |
asselin | the benefit is we can do the splits with less effort, in e.g a mini sprint. | 19:23 |
krtaylor | yeah, less chance for typos IIRC | 19:23 |
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jesusaurus | is it actually fewer changes? i think the current changes are fairly small and dont really need to be trimmed down | 19:24 |
asselin | b/c there are a few little changes sprikled in a few files. seems easier to do all at once. | 19:24 |
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jesusaurus | but i dont have a very strong opinion on the matter | 19:24 |
fungi | my only fundamental reservation was with earlier patchsets which added lots of commented-out sections to gerrit/projects.yaml but this version does not so i'm fine with it | 19:24 |
jeblair | #vote use approach in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140523 ? yes, no | 19:24 |
jeblair | clarkb: help! :) | 19:24 |
nibalizer | its #startvote i think | 19:25 |
jeblair | #startvote use approach in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140523 ? yes, no | 19:25 |
openstack | Begin voting on: use approach in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140523 ? Valid vote options are yes, no. | 19:25 |
openstack | Vote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts. | 19:25 |
asselin | fungi, yes that patch was abandoned b/c it would also create lots of merge conflicts which is counter productive | 19:25 |
clarkb | so I have tried to avoid this because I don't feel super strongly either way | 19:25 |
AJaeger | #vote yes | 19:25 |
anteaya | #vote abstain | 19:25 |
openstack | anteaya: abstain is not a valid option. Valid options are yes, no. | 19:25 |
clarkb | my biggest gripe which wasn't super important is reviewing an 800 line diff is annoying | 19:25 |
nibalizer | #vote yes | 19:25 |
asselin | #vote yes | 19:25 |
sweston | #vote yes | 19:25 |
fungi | it's a bit of a bikeshed, but i'm in favor by way of not being against ;) | 19:25 |
krtaylor | #vote yes | 19:25 |
fungi | #vote yes | 19:25 |
pleia2 | #vote yes | 19:25 |
jesusaurus | #vote no | 19:25 |
mordred | #vote yes | 19:26 |
fungi | ultimately, my feeling is that whoever's willing to do the work can choose how to go about it, as long as there are no serious problems with the plan | 19:26 |
clarkb | how concerned are we about breaking multiple things in a way that prevents us from fixing it with puppet because its all wedged | 19:26 |
anteaya | fungi: +1 | 19:26 |
jeblair | #endvote | 19:26 |
openstack | Voted on "use approach in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140523 ?" Results are | 19:26 |
openstack | yes (8): mordred, krtaylor, sweston, nibalizer, fungi, AJaeger, pleia2, asselin | 19:26 |
openstack | no (1): jesusaurus | 19:26 |
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AJaeger | asselin: looks like time to rebase the patch and then let's merge... | 19:26 |
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jeblair | clarkb: i don't think this changes that | 19:26 |
jhesketh | (I agree with fungi too but don't know enough about the proposed changes to vote) | 19:26 |
anteaya | and follows up problems and fixes them | 19:26 |
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jeblair | okay, so part 2 of this is, should we have a mini-sprint to try to get through a bunch of modules at once? | 19:27 |
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asselin | these changes are noops until the real change is merged (which pulls in the project into openstack-infra) | 19:27 |
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jeblair | i'm not in a good position to help with that for the next 2.5 weeks | 19:28 |
fungi | our infra-manual sprint was a huge success, and this seems like a good candidate for similar priority task knock-out | 19:28 |
jeblair | fungi: i agree, i think it's desirable | 19:28 |
mordred | ++ | 19:28 |
nibalizer | jeblair: i love the idea of picking a day and getting it done | 19:28 |
nibalizer | or 85% | 19:28 |
mordred | I'm also not in much of a position to be substantively helpful until feb | 19:28 |
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clarkb | +1 | 19:28 |
clarkb | but january is hard ... ETOOMUCHGOINGON | 19:29 |
jesusaurus | id be happy to help whenever it happens | 19:29 |
anteaya | I'm useless until Fed too | 19:29 |
jeblair | maybe thursday. :) | 19:29 |
anteaya | Feb | 19:29 |
* fungi has travel coming up in a couple weeks and is getting back up to speed as well | 19:29 | |
pleia2 | sounds good to me, happy to help with testing/reviewing and logistics again (announcements, etherpad setup, summary) | 19:29 |
* nibalizer fine with waiting, epecrially if we pick a day in advance | 19:29 | |
fungi | you know, that thursday which always happens in february | 19:29 |
anteaya | do we want to discuss the repo replication bug now or wait until open discussion? | 19:30 |
fungi | anteaya: it's not directly related to teh puppet module split | 19:30 |
jeblair | let's pick a date now | 19:30 |
fungi | anteaya: just a (probably gerrit) bug impacting new project creation | 19:30 |
anteaya | oh I have been operating on the belief that it is | 19:30 |
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jeblair | friday jan 30? | 19:30 |
pleia2 | nibalizer and I won't be around then | 19:30 |
pleia2 | (fosdem travel) | 19:31 |
anteaya | nor will I | 19:31 |
jeblair | pleia2: when do you leave? | 19:31 |
asselin | I leave for vacation on the 31st, so 30 is good for me | 19:31 |
pleia2 | I fly out on the 29th | 19:31 |
clarkb | every day that week but monday is good for me | 19:31 |
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fungi | i'm around that week as well | 19:31 |
pleia2 | so, thursday | 19:31 |
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jeblair | how about wed 28? | 19:31 |
pleia2 | wfm, nibalizer when do you head to fosdem? | 19:31 |
fungi | wfm | 19:32 |
clarkb | wfm | 19:32 |
nibalizer | uh i have not planned fosdem | 19:32 |
pleia2 | nibalizer: ok, don't leave until thursday :D | 19:32 |
jeblair | nibalizer: you leave after wednesday feb 28. ;) | 19:32 |
anteaya | <- cinder mid-cycle | 19:32 |
mordred | I cannot do the 28th - but don' tlet that stop you | 19:32 |
nibalizer | feb28 doesn't conflict with fosdem at all | 19:32 |
nibalizer | fosdem is feb 1 and 2 | 19:32 |
jeblair | jhesketh: around wed 28th? | 19:32 |
nibalizer | i can do feb28 no prob | 19:32 |
pleia2 | oh, jeblair said jan | 19:33 |
jhesketh | jeblair: yes, works for me | 19:33 |
fungi | february 30 | 19:33 |
nibalizer | fungi: nice | 19:33 |
pleia2 | late february is fine for me | 19:33 |
jeblair | mordred: seems like we have a few cores, so should be okay.... | 19:33 |
mordred | cool | 19:33 |
jeblair | since there was confusion... | 19:33 |
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jhesketh | err, both should be fine although feb is possibly a little hazy | 19:33 |
fungi | but yeah, that seems like a reasonably soon but not inconveniently soon week | 19:34 |
jeblair | last call: wednesday, january 28th okay for everyone but mordred? | 19:34 |
jesusaurus | wait, jan 28 or feb 28? | 19:34 |
anteaya | mordred and anteaya | 19:34 |
anteaya | but you dont' need me eitehr | 19:34 |
nibalizer | jan 28 works for me | 19:34 |
* jesusaurus can do jan 28 | 19:34 | |
fungi | anteaya: that's when the cinder mid-cycle is scheduled you say? | 19:34 |
pleia2 | jan 28 is good | 19:34 |
asselin | anteaya, you did a great job reviewing the patch. thanks! | 19:34 |
anteaya | fungi: yes | 19:34 |
jeblair | anteaya: oh i thought you were okay that date | 19:34 |
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anteaya | jeblair: no mid-cycling after lca until first week of Feb | 19:35 |
anteaya | but it works for everyone else so go ahead | 19:35 |
jeblair | anteaya: yeah, but you're core on one of the projects | 19:35 |
anteaya | so is andreas | 19:35 |
anteaya | I can try to be around but I just can't commit | 19:36 |
jeblair | yeah, i'm just trying to maximize people who can actually approve these changes :) | 19:36 |
anteaya | can't do two sprints at once | 19:36 |
anteaya | I don't want to block, works for everyone else | 19:36 |
anteaya | hard to pick a better time | 19:36 |
jeblair | #agreed module split sprint wednesday, jan 28 | 19:36 |
* nibalizer excited | 19:37 | |
jeblair | we can continue to split them off incrementially till then of course | 19:37 |
asselin | awesome. thank you! :) | 19:37 |
jeblair | #action asselin update module split staging change and merge asap | 19:37 |
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jeblair | asselin: when that's ready, do please pester people to approve it so we don't end up with lots of conflict rebases, etc | 19:37 |
jeblair | #topic Priority Efforts - Nodepool DIB | 19:38 |
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asselin | will do | 19:38 |
jeblair | mordred, clarkb: what's the status here? | 19:38 |
mordred | so - I haven't done much since mid dec | 19:38 |
clarkb | I haven't been able to do much around this since the switch to trusty | 19:38 |
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mordred | but I got time again today | 19:38 |
mordred | which has been great | 19:38 |
jeblair | hey everyone, mordred has free time! ;) | 19:38 |
mordred | I've got half of my crappy shell scripts properly translated over in to python | 19:38 |
clarkb | but there are a bunch of nodepool changes outstanding that I and others have written that fix bugs that allow us to do this better | 19:39 |
clarkb | let me pick out some important onces | 19:39 |
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jeblair | mordred: what is the character of the python changes you are writing? | 19:39 |
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mordred | well, the most complicated part of this is the "use glance v1 on one cloud and swift+glance v2 on the other cloud" | 19:40 |
clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/140106/ | 19:40 |
clarkb | looks like I can actually approve that one | 19:40 |
mordred | with completely different workflows | 19:40 |
clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/130878/ | 19:40 |
jeblair | mordred: so the existing nodepool glance stuff was only tested/written for one cloud? | 19:40 |
clarkb | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139704/ | 19:40 |
mordred | jeblair: yes | 19:40 |
mordred | jeblair: so I'm writing an interface that will work for both clouds | 19:40 |
mordred | and will do all of the things we need | 19:41 |
jeblair | i'm really sad that it's so different. :( | 19:41 |
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mordred | I'm currently doing that inside of shade for ease of testing, and because I'm pretty sure other folks might need this - but if we decide that we don't want to make nodepool depend on shade then I can copy and paste the relevant stuff into a local class for nodepool | 19:41 |
mordred | jeblair: it's COMPLETELY different | 19:42 |
fungi | if only there were some common service platform they could both use. maybe if it were free software they'd have no excuse | 19:42 |
mordred | but neither cloud is doing anything "wrong" | 19:42 |
clarkb | we tried explaining to glance devs why the client shoul dmake it not different for us | 19:42 |
clarkb | not really sure thta went anywhere | 19:42 |
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mordred | well, hopefully in a few more hours I'll have a client that makes it not different for us | 19:42 |
fungi | yeah, the glance image type situation is pretty unfortunate | 19:43 |
clarkb | fungi: its not even that though | 19:43 |
mordred | and then I expect it to take another couple of days to get a nodepool patch for folks to look at | 19:43 |
clarkb | fungi: on rackspace you have to upload to swift separate from glance, then tell glance there is an image over in swift | 19:43 |
fungi | oh, oww | 19:43 |
mordred | fungi: yeah - it's completely different | 19:43 |
jeblair | ok cool, so we have changes clarkb linked to, and some forthcoming changes from mordred. hopefully in a couple of weeks we can maybe try this for real? | 19:43 |
fungi | you can't upload directly to glance there? | 19:43 |
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mordred | jeblair: ++ | 19:43 |
mordred | fungi: no - by choice/design | 19:44 |
mordred | but on HP it's the opposite, you _cannot_ upload to swift and import | 19:44 |
mordred | you must upload directly to glance | 19:44 |
jeblair | clarkb: can we continue to increase dib in hpcloud after the current nodepool changes merge? | 19:44 |
fungi | by design of course ;) | 19:44 |
clarkb | jeblair: yes | 19:44 |
jeblair | because actually, getting dib everywhere there and spreading across all 9 routers might help other things | 19:44 |
clarkb | jeblair: the important one for that is teh second linked change. it allows rax to be snapshot and hp to be dib | 19:44 |
jeblair | so maybe we should plan to continue to push dib in hpcloud to help work out issues there | 19:45 |
jeblair | hopefully that will make the rax-dib work less painful when it's ready | 19:45 |
fungi | i'm in favor | 19:45 |
clarkb | +1 | 19:45 |
mordred | I'd love to get outstanding nodepool patches taht are releated to openstack apis merged or at least agreed to in large part | 19:45 |
mordred | before I start in with the next set | 19:45 |
mordred | because I'm pretty sure they need to be additive | 19:45 |
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jeblair | mordred: the existing ones clarkb linked to? | 19:45 |
clarkb | mordred: yes and before we do that I think we should fix our bugs :) | 19:45 |
mordred | clarkb: yup | 19:46 |
mordred | jeblair: yes | 19:46 |
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mordred | I'll work on reviewing those today after I eat a sandwich | 19:46 |
jeblair | anything else dib related? | 19:46 |
jeblair | #topic Priority Efforts - Jobs on trusty | 19:46 |
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jeblair | fungi: is ubuntu still shipping a non-functioning python? | 19:47 |
fungi | jeblair: yes, i think they're all asleep at the wheel. pinged several bugs and no response on any of them | 19:47 |
jeblair | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.4/+bug/1367907 | 19:47 |
uvirtbot | Launchpad bug 1367907 in python3.4 "Segfault in gc with cyclic trash" [High,Fix released] | 19:47 |
jeblair | that's been marked as 'invalid' in oslo.messaging... | 19:48 |
fungi | not sure how to increase visibility, though i guess i could start rattling mailing lists, irc channels, something | 19:48 |
clarkb | jeblair: ya its a python bug not an oslo.messaging bug | 19:48 |
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fungi | the bug "affects" oslo.messaging insofar as it can't be tested on ubuntu's python 3.4 in trusty, but i'm not going to argue the point with the oslo bug team | 19:49 |
jeblair | so when do we drop py3k-precise testing? | 19:49 |
jeblair | i think we've waited quite long enough | 19:49 |
fungi | i guess it depends on what we want to do when we drop it. go ahead and start testing everything which isn't breaking on 3.4?" | 19:50 |
fungi | and just stop testing the stuff which is no longer testable on 3.4 (because of needing fixed 3.4 on utrusty)? | 19:51 |
jeblair | yeah, i think that's one option | 19:51 |
fungi | i can do that fairly trivially | 19:51 |
jeblair | another option would be to switch our testing platform to an os that fixes bugs | 19:51 |
fungi | at that point it's just oslo.messaging and oslo.rootwrap as far as i've been able to tell | 19:51 |
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clarkb | then we just have to decide on what that distro/OS is :) | 19:52 |
mordred | jeblair: just for completeness - we could also start maintaining our own python package | 19:52 |
mordred | I'm not voting for that one, just mentioning | 19:52 |
clarkb | the big problem with that is the problem that travis exposes | 19:52 |
clarkb | you don't actually end up testing a python platform that is useable to anyone | 19:53 |
mordred | yah | 19:53 |
mordred | because $distro-crazy | 19:53 |
clarkb | so nothing works when you install your code over there on ubunut/centos | 19:53 |
mordred | remember when distros distro'd software and didn't much with it so much? | 19:53 |
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jeblair | so keeping precise going isn't a big deal | 19:53 |
jeblair | the big deal to me is that we've actually decided to test on py34 | 19:53 |
jeblair | but we can't | 19:53 |
jeblair | which is a hindrance to the move to py34 | 19:53 |
clarkb | ya | 19:53 |
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mordred | ya | 19:54 |
dhellmann | fungi: I think I set that bug to invalid. That might not be the right state, but my impression was there wasn't really anything the Oslo team could do about it. | 19:54 |
clarkb | I do think a move to say debian is not unreasonable | 19:54 |
mordred | and I agree with clarkb that if we did something like slackware - we'd be "testing" python 3.4 but it still might not work on the platforms people are using | 19:54 |
fungi | dhellmann: nothing the oslo team can do about it, but it is still breaking oslo.messaging so... up to you | 19:54 |
dhellmann | fungi: yeah :-/ | 19:54 |
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fungi | dhellmann: well, nothing you can do about it short of asking the ubuntu python package maintainers to please fix it | 19:55 |
mordred | clarkb: well, even with a move to debian - since the distro pythons are all patched and different - what _Are_ we actually testing? | 19:55 |
clarkb | mordred: the ability to run on debian/ubuntu/centos | 19:55 |
anteaya | our host clouds | 19:55 |
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dhellmann | fungi: if only I had time -- maybe sileht can talk to zul, though | 19:55 |
jeblair | okay, so i think within a few weeks we should come up with a plan | 19:56 |
fungi | dhellmann: zul's aware, but says barry warsaw needs to take care of it | 19:56 |
mordred | jeblair: ++ | 19:56 |
jeblair | probably not going to resolve now | 19:56 |
fungi | jeblair: i'll also see what py3k centos7 offers us | 19:56 |
dhellmann | fungi: ok, I'll try poking barry by email | 19:56 |
jeblair | but let's be thinking about whether we want to do partial 34 testing, or switch platforms, or ... | 19:56 |
clarkb | mordred: basically if we stick to a non boutique distro then we continue to have an answer for reasonably tested on X that you can be expected to use without eye rolls | 19:56 |
fungi | jeblair: sounds good | 19:56 |
jeblair | #topic Priority Efforts - Zanata | 19:56 |
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jeblair | i need to add this to the agenda | 19:57 |
mordred | clarkb: I'm not sure I agree - but I do understand your pov | 19:57 |
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jeblair | but i mostly wanted to remind people to watch the puppet-zanata repo, and help review pleia2's patches as this starts up | 19:57 |
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mordred | clarkb: I'm not sure I care that we have a 'reasonable' answer if that reasonable answer ends up with someone downloading something we say works and they discover that it does not | 19:57 |
mordred | jeblair: woot | 19:57 |
jeblair | pleia2: anything you want to mention? | 19:58 |
anteaya | pleia2: I've been seeing your patches fly by in scrollback are you using a consistent topic? | 19:58 |
pleia2 | nothing major I only have one review up so far to get wildfly itself installed | 19:58 |
pleia2 | struggling a bit with zanata itself, but nothing I can't get past | 19:58 |
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jeblair | it has a +2! :) | 19:58 |
pleia2 | yes, thanks jeblair! | 19:59 |
pleia2 | oops, almost forgot about this one too: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143512/ | 19:59 |
jeblair | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143512/ | 19:59 |
pleia2 | that's in system-config to pull in the wildfly module | 19:59 |
pleia2 | I did a cursory overview of the module we're grabbing, but other eyes on it would be nice in case it does something crazy that I missed | 20:00 |
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pleia2 | s/overview/review | 20:00 |
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jeblair | public service announcement: the TC meeting is canceled this week. the next meeting in this channel is the cross-project meeting at 21:00 | 20:00 |
jeblair | i'm going to run 5 minutes over if people don't mind... | 20:01 |
jeblair | #topic Upgrading Gerrit (zaro) | 20:01 |
mordred | jeblair: go for it | 20:01 |
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zaro | nothing much to report atm | 20:01 |
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jeblair | so we talked a bit about this, and zaro pointed out the hung sshd issues | 20:01 |
zaro | will try to upgrade review-dev.o.o soon | 20:01 |
jeblair | zaro: my understanding is that with this change: https://gerrit-review.googlesource.com/#/c/62070/ | 20:01 |
jeblair | zaro: 2.9.3 should no longer have those issues (they downgraded the sshd module to a version without the problems) | 20:02 |
jeblair | zaro: does that sound right? | 20:02 |
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jeblair | (also 2.9.4 has been released since then, and only contains a jgit upgrade) | 20:02 |
zaro | yes, that is correct. | 20:03 |
zaro | i believe that change brings it back to same state as 2.8 | 20:03 |
jeblair | so it seems like 2.9.3 or 2.9.4 are reasonable upgrade targets | 20:04 |
zaro | yes, i believe so. | 20:04 |
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zaro | i will stop puppet agent on review-dev soon. | 20:05 |
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zaro | also i noticed that there was a fix to the replication retry in 2.9 as well. | 20:05 |
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zaro | #link https://gerrit-review.googlesource.com/#/c/41320/ | 20:06 |
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jeblair | okay cool. mostly just wanted to make sure we concluded the sshd discussion and agreed on a version | 20:06 |
fungi | anteaya: ^ that's possibly the solution to the issue you were asking about earlier | 20:06 |
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anteaya | fungi: oh I do hope so | 20:06 |
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fungi | though the description doesn't sound entirely the same | 20:08 |
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jeblair | let's call that it for this week | 20:08 |
jeblair | thanks everyone! | 20:08 |
jeblair | #endmeeting | 20:08 |
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pc_m | I have some questions (anteaya suggested I ask here) - can people hang around for a bit on #openstack-infra? | 20:08 |
openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 6 20:08:36 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:08 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2015/infra.2015-01-06-19.02.html | 20:08 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2015/infra.2015-01-06-19.02.txt | 20:08 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2015/infra.2015-01-06-19.02.log.html | 20:08 |
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jeblair | public service announcement: the TC meeting is canceled this week. the next meeting in this channel is the cross-project meeting at 21:00 | 20:08 |
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sarob | jeblair: thanks | 20:14 |
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ttx | o/ | 21:00 |
mestery | o/ | 21:00 |
markmcclain | o/ | 21:00 |
mikal | Heya | 21:00 |
bknudson | hi | 21:01 |
devananda | sorta here | 21:01 |
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eglynn | o/ | 21:01 |
asalkeld | o/ | 21:01 |
ttx | courtesy PTL ping: dhellmann, morganfainberg, notmyname, nikhil_k, thingee, david-lyle, mestery, SlickNik, SergeyLukjanov: around ? | 21:01 |
dhellmann | o/ | 21:01 |
SergeyLukjanov | ttx, hey | 21:01 |
david-lyle | o/ | 21:01 |
morganfainberg | O/ | 21:01 |
ttx | #startmeeting crossproject | 21:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Jan 6 21:02:09 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:02 |
* mestery waves at ttx again | 21:02 | |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'crossproject' | 21:02 |
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ttx | Our agenda for today: | 21:02 |
ttx | #link http://wiki.openstack.org/Meetings/CrossProjectMeeting | 21:02 |
ttx | mestery: live line edit fail | 21:02 |
mestery | lol | 21:02 |
ttx | #topic State of nova-network to neutron migration | 21:02 |
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ttx | anteaya: around? | 21:03 |
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ttx | This was raised in a ML thread before the holiday season | 21:03 |
ttx | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-December/053355.html | 21:03 |
jungleboyj | o/ | 21:03 |
boris-42 | Hey hey | 21:03 |
boris-42 | ttx: happy new year=) | 21:03 |
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anteaya | I am | 21:03 |
ttx | boris-42: thx, glad you could join | 21:03 |
ttx | In summary, while this is a stated priority for Nova and Neutron teams, the effort has stalled | 21:03 |
boris-42 | ttx: yep from vacation=) | 21:03 |
ttx | I think we have already taken steps to address this issue with a specific meeting and a champion to make sure progress is made | 21:04 |
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anteaya | we are working on collecting around a meeting time | 21:04 |
mestery | ttx: Yes | 21:04 |
ttx | I would just like to make sure there are no blockers at this point | 21:04 |
anteaya | so far myself and oleg have stated preferences | 21:04 |
ttx | If there are, see if that meeting can help remove them | 21:04 |
anteaya | well today russian holidays | 21:04 |
anteaya | but that will come to an end | 21:04 |
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ttx | anteaya: do we have all the team-specific liaisons we need to make progress here ? | 21:04 |
jogo | anteaya: the timing for setting up a meeting wasn't great with the holidays. hope to respond today | 21:04 |
anteaya | jogo: thank you | 21:05 |
mikal | I know gus is interested too -- I'll make sure he's aware | 21:05 |
anteaya | we have jogo's and mikal's attention in nova | 21:05 |
anteaya | great and gus | 21:05 |
markmcclain | ttx: yes.. we should now | 21:05 |
anteaya | and mestery and markmcclain and oleg in neutron | 21:05 |
ttx | Do we need ops-side support ? | 21:05 |
anteaya | ttx good question, whom might you recommend? | 21:05 |
ttx | like have a few of them in the workgroup | 21:05 |
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mestery | Someone from CERN I imagine | 21:06 |
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mikal | anteaya: Tim Bell? | 21:06 |
anteaya | oh yes, we have two cern devs | 21:06 |
mestery | mikal: ++ | 21:06 |
anteaya | I have their email addresses | 21:06 |
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anteaya | they attended the earlier impromtue meeting and have reviewd the current spec which is wip | 21:06 |
ttx | anteaya: I can reach out to fifieldt_ in case he has someone else to suggest | 21:06 |
jogo | the part I am still a bit unclear on is: what is required from nova | 21:07 |
anteaya | ttx would be great to have his participation | 21:07 |
jogo | last I read the spec it was not very complete | 21:07 |
anteaya | jogo: right, there were some passages in the spec that needed detail | 21:07 |
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anteaya | and unfortunately the main author oleg is on holidays still | 21:07 |
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ttx | anteaya: so we should know more next week ? | 21:08 |
asalkeld | what's the link to the spec? | 21:08 |
anteaya | I sure hope to | 21:08 |
* mestery thinks we really need to wait for Oleg here | 21:08 | |
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asalkeld | found it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/ | 21:08 |
thingee | o/ | 21:08 |
ttx | anteaya: OK, we'll just let the workgroup make progress. If you are blocked, don't hesistate to raise a new topic for this meeing. Otherwise, we'll do a status update in this meeting in about a month ? Would that work ? | 21:09 |
ttx | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142456/ | 21:09 |
anteaya | mestery: well we can identify concerned parties, which we are doing | 21:09 |
mestery | ++ | 21:09 |
anteaya | yes | 21:09 |
anteaya | thank you | 21:09 |
mestery | thanks ttx | 21:09 |
anteaya | lets do two weeks from today | 21:09 |
anteaya | not a month | 21:09 |
anteaya | if we hit a wall I want folks to know | 21:09 |
anteaya | fair? | 21:09 |
ttx | anteaya: if you hit a wall you can add the topic and we'll discuss it right away | 21:10 |
mikal | Yep | 21:10 |
anteaya | okay fair enough | 21:10 |
anteaya | thank you | 21:10 |
mikal | Many of these peoplre are also at LCA | 21:10 |
anteaya | yes | 21:10 |
mikal | So you can lock them in a room if needed | 21:10 |
anteaya | not oleg though unfortunately | 21:10 |
mikal | True | 21:10 |
ttx | anteaya: if it just goes well we'll update in one month | 21:10 |
anteaya | very good | 21:10 |
anteaya | I won't stay quiet you do know that | 21:10 |
ttx | #action ttx to schedule a status update on novanet2neutron one month from now, unless a more urgent status update is needed | 21:11 |
jogo | will any neutron folks be at LCA? | 21:11 |
anteaya | markmcclain will | 21:11 |
anteaya | and I am expecting gus | 21:11 |
jogo | markmcclain: can you be a proxy for Oleg ? | 21:12 |
ttx | OK, anything else on that topic ? | 21:12 |
mtreinish | jogo: http://lca2015.linux.org.au/media/news/115 | 21:12 |
jogo | so we can get some f2f stuff done | 21:12 |
mtreinish | oh anteaya beat me to it... :) | 21:12 |
anteaya | ttx I'm done | 21:12 |
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anteaya | mtreinish: :D | 21:12 |
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ttx | mtreinish: that was the previous markmcclain | 21:12 |
markmcclain | jogo: yes | 21:13 |
ttx | #topic Discuss openstack-spec: log guidelines | 21:13 |
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ttx | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/132552/ | 21:13 |
sdague | I even did another run of it today, hopefully working out the last kinks | 21:13 |
ttx | This is a proposed cross-project spec. It basically needs to be reviewed by project teams to make sure those guidelines are as applicable to them as possible | 21:13 |
ttx | There weren't strong opposition to it so far, most comments are about details | 21:14 |
* ttx updates | 21:14 | |
Rockyg | Really need to get some Ops eyes on this. | 21:14 |
dhellmann | sdague: I think at this point its safe to stop fiddling with wording, unless there's a major issue to be addressed :-) | 21:14 |
ttx | But that may mean most PTLs just didn't look into it yet | 21:14 |
bknudson | getting info from ops about if we're logging too much or not enough would be useful | 21:15 |
morganfainberg | Minor wording changes can happen post merge if needed. Specs are not set in stone. | 21:15 |
asalkeld | Rockyg: +1 | 21:15 |
sdague | dhellmann: yeh, I hope so, I did try to explain the parts that I thought confused people a ton | 21:15 |
Rockyg | But, that said, Ops can always do a new/addition to this once this is out. | 21:15 |
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sdague | morganfainberg: ++ | 21:15 |
bknudson | I know that the keystone logs are useless from my dev perspective. | 21:15 |
dhellmann | sdague: yeah, some of the new bits are helpful | 21:15 |
morganfainberg | bknudson: we need to work on that in general. Keystone logs are far less useful from a ops perspective than they should be as well. | 21:15 |
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bknudson | doesn't need to be addressed in the spec... the spec looks fine to me. | 21:16 |
dhellmann | this spec is several months old at this point, and I don't see any point in continuing to wait for more reviews | 21:16 |
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Rockyg | ++ morganfainberg | 21:16 |
morganfainberg | I'll score the spec post this meeting. It looks good to me. | 21:16 |
ttx | Rockyg: think you can gather ops feedback on it in a reasonable timeframe ? Don't want to stall those opsenstack-specss forever trying to get everyone's feedback before approving | 21:16 |
bknudson | the only complaint I would be worried about is dropping audit log level if some group is using it | 21:16 |
thingee | yeah I'll be looking at it post meeting too | 21:17 |
sdague | bknudson: realistically, we've never had push back on that point | 21:17 |
morganfainberg | bknudson: I think audit is a bad log level - cadf or info. | 21:17 |
sdague | that was in there from the original draft back in May | 21:17 |
asalkeld | bknudson: also you still get the log, just as info | 21:17 |
ttx | #action PTLs make sure to review (or get reviewed) the log guidelines spec as it's considered pretty much ready by now | 21:17 |
Rockyg | ttx: There is a midcycle meetup in March for Ops. I think if this gets out there as is, it will inspire the midcycle to improve it. and that's not too much lag time | 21:17 |
morganfainberg | If it really is audit info, hiding it in the logs is bad. | 21:17 |
bknudson | sounds good. I don't think I've seen it anywhere | 21:17 |
jungleboyj | bknudson: No one should be using that. If they are it should be changed. | 21:18 |
jungleboyj | bknudson: I thought there was effort to remove it a while back anyway. | 21:18 |
Rockyg | Also, I'll post the review to the devops list. | 21:18 |
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dhellmann | Rockyg: do you anticipate major changes being proposed? | 21:19 |
ttx | Rockyg: ok, maybe just relay that the window of opportunity to comment before approval is closing fast | 21:19 |
sdague | jungleboyj: it was all the same effort, people were just digging in early based on early versions of this | 21:19 |
Rockyg | I expect tweaks to existing and additions and/or clarifications | 21:19 |
jungleboyj | sdague: Ah, good to know. | 21:19 |
Rockyg | Key here is that seandague has fought thes logs a lot in his position in QA, so what is there is goodness for anyone who has to use the logs | 21:20 |
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asalkeld | sdague: are we going to move to a global log config format (at least a global config file for logging) to ensure consistent output? | 21:20 |
annegentle_ | I'll comment in the review patch too, but is there ever Fatal? | 21:20 |
sdague | asalkeld: that's beyond the scope of this | 21:21 |
sdague | at least for now | 21:21 |
asalkeld | ok | 21:21 |
asalkeld | it is very high level | 21:21 |
sdague | this is hopefully to get all the projects roughly doing the same things internally with logging information | 21:21 |
ttx | yes, it's more a log philosophy than an implementation | 21:22 |
sdague | right, agreed | 21:22 |
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morganfainberg | annegentle_: fatal? Higher than crit? I think crit meets that by spec definition. | 21:22 |
dhellmann | asalkeld: there is work happening in oslo.log and oslo.context to standardize the format | 21:22 |
bknudson | do we then have blueprints for each project? | 21:22 |
clarkb | we basically have the same default format if you use oslo.log too | 21:22 |
annegentle_ | morganfainberg: sure, but the link referenced in the blueprint mentions fatal so I ask. Noting in a comment. | 21:22 |
sdague | clarkb: right agreed | 21:22 |
morganfainberg | Ah | 21:22 |
ttx | sdague: so we could let that bake for one more week and then have the TC tally the votes and approve it | 21:23 |
morganfainberg | annegentle_: ack | 21:23 |
sdague | ttx: I'm fine with that | 21:23 |
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ttx | sdague: unless a big objection comes out | 21:23 |
Rockyg | So, do you guys see this as the basis for a "principles in Logging" for OpenStack? | 21:23 |
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dhellmann | Rockyg: I wasn't anticipating anyone writing another document. Is that what you mean? | 21:24 |
ttx | #info Expect the TC to tally the votes on this one at next week meeting, unless a big objection is posted | 21:24 |
ttx | #action ttx to add log guidelines openstack-spec talkly to next week TC meeting agenda | 21:24 |
Rockyg | I'm thinking at a minimum, the intro on the Wiki page for Logging Standards | 21:24 |
annegentle_ | Rockyg: dhellmann: I just commented on the review I'd like discussion on where this gets documented | 21:25 |
dhellmann | I thought the spec *was* the documentation for this. | 21:25 |
dhellmann | that's the point of having something that goes through the review process, no? | 21:25 |
ttx | that sounds like the right place | 21:25 |
Rockyg | anngentle_ ++ if it only lives in the spec, it doesn't really live. | 21:25 |
annegentle_ | we have the Ops Guide http://docs.openstack.org/openstack-ops/content/logging_monitoring.html | 21:25 |
annegentle_ | so we do already discuss it -- and I htink the scope would be "how does OpenStack approach/think about logging" | 21:26 |
annegentle_ | so yes, I'd like that specifically addressed in the spec | 21:26 |
dhellmann | these are instructions for developers to follow when adding new logging calls and reviewing other patches with new logging calls. I don't think it needs to go into a manual anywhere | 21:26 |
dhellmann | if we want to replicate the information in a format appropriate for other consumers, that's independent of this spec | 21:26 |
annegentle_ | dhellmann: those are for the specs, sure. I'd just like to see an operator doc in addition | 21:26 |
ttx | dhellmann: ++ | 21:26 |
sdague | dhellmann: agreed | 21:26 |
annegentle_ | dhellmann: okay, sure. | 21:26 |
Rockyg | annegentle_ Ooh, good! but it also needs to link to developer docs so devs know how to write the log code chunks | 21:26 |
devananda | dhellmann: ++ | 21:26 |
ttx | annegentle_: anyone can translate that into a "this is the spirit of openstack logs" doc | 21:26 |
annegentle_ | Rockyg: meh, it's a different audience | 21:26 |
ttx | but yes, different audience | 21:27 |
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annegentle_ | Rockyg: hence my thinking the Ops Guide (which is not read generally by contributor devs to my knowledge) | 21:27 |
Rockyg | Different audience, but we need to make sure the stuff stays in sync between dev and users | 21:27 |
dhellmann | just to be clear: AIUI, this repository is a place for us to agree on policy, like the governance repo is for the TC. Once something is approved here, it can be referenced as official. Is that right? | 21:27 |
annegentle_ | dhellmann: Rockyg: I think the loop is closed if I log a doc bug for openstack-manuals to make sure the spec info goes into the Ops Guide | 21:28 |
ttx | Definition of log levels, in particular, would appear on both sides | 21:28 |
sdague | dhellmann: that's my understanding | 21:28 |
annegentle_ | good enough | 21:28 |
dhellmann | annegentle_: ok, cool | 21:28 |
annegentle_ | dhellmann: yeah that sounds right to me | 21:28 |
devananda | dhellmann: my understanding as well | 21:28 |
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ttx | alright, last comments on that topic ? | 21:28 |
Rockyg | annegentle_ (I'll get your nick right eventuall;) yeah. So, maybe links between the docs? We can discuss offline? | 21:28 |
Rockyg | just caught up again. ++ Let's give it one more week, let ops folks know, then merge after comments addressed. | 21:29 |
ttx | ok, moving on | 21:30 |
dhellmann | ttx: is the output from this specs repo being published to specs.openstack.org yet? | 21:30 |
ttx | #topic Discuss openstack-spec: OSProfiler | 21:30 |
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annegentle_ | Rockyg: sure, let's start a bug for discussion | 21:30 |
boris-42 | hey hey=) | 21:30 |
ttx | dhellmann: hmm.. maaaaybe ? | 21:30 |
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boris-42 | ttx: I updated spec and reply on some comments | 21:30 |
ttx | dhellmann: nothing was approved yet :) | 21:30 |
ttx | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/134839/ | 21:30 |
ttx | This is the second cross-project spec that's been posted for a while | 21:31 |
ttx | so I would like us to make progress on it one way or another | 21:31 |
ttx | dhellmann and me filed a few questions, but otherwise I suspect most PTLs overlooked it | 21:31 |
asalkeld | this is mostly done - right | 21:31 |
boris-42 | ttx: so actually there was a request from dns team | 21:31 |
sdague | boris-42: I think there was some general concensus that we wouldn't put release in the paths in the repo | 21:31 |
boris-42 | sdague: oh | 21:32 |
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boris-42 | sdague: didn't know, so I will update it | 21:32 |
ttx | err rev3 | 21:32 |
sdague | dhellmann: right? | 21:32 |
morganfainberg | So I'll review that spec but it looks like a lot of the concerns from the proposed keystone spec will still be relevant there. | 21:32 |
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dhellmann | sdague: yeah, I think we agreed to that after boris-42 submitted this one | 21:32 |
boris-42 | dhellmann: sdague sorry guys I am still on holidays=) | 21:32 |
eglynn | there were a lot of reviews of the previous version https://review.openstack.org/103825 ... is the new one pretty much a straight copy of that? | 21:32 |
boris-42 | but I will fix it | 21:32 |
morganfainberg | At a glance that is. | 21:32 |
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dhellmann | boris-42: np, it's an easy change | 21:33 |
boris-42 | eglynn: yep with fixed issues | 21:33 |
boris-42 | eglynn: that was on previous one | 21:33 |
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eglynn | cool | 21:33 |
boris-42 | So actually there is request from desingate team | 21:33 |
boris-42 | to remove agrugments from api-paste.ini | 21:33 |
boris-42 | as we are using CONF file of project we can do that | 21:33 |
boris-42 | thoughts? | 21:34 |
boris-42 | I heard that operators hates confs in api-paste.ini ;) | 21:34 |
morganfainberg | Pleas do not add arguments to be consumed from the paste-ini. We have had issues with typing etc from keystonemiddleware and its better to have options all in one place | 21:34 |
bknudson | auth_token middleware can get options from api-paste.ini or .conf | 21:34 |
morganfainberg | Easier to not need all sorts of magic to make it work right when the project conf already does. | 21:34 |
boris-42 | So I'll need to make 2 new releases and some amount of patches to remove them | 21:34 |
morganfainberg | bknudson: we fixed the issues. But it was a lot of workaround code to do it right. | 21:35 |
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ttx | My main objection to it was if there was a performance penalty when turned off, but I guess evaluating "if None" takes negligible time | 21:36 |
boris-42 | morganfainberg: btw guys I can remove data from request that have tokens and credentials and so on | 21:36 |
boris-42 | ttx: actually even when it is turned ON | 21:36 |
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boris-42 | ttx: but not triggered the overhead is same to "If None" | 21:36 |
boris-42 | ttx: so it can be turned of by default imho=) but okay step by step | 21:37 |
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morganfainberg | boris-42: I'll make sure to comment and we can figure out how to do that as needed. But I think most of the keystone concerns still apply to this spec. I will review in depth later today. | 21:37 |
boris-42 | morganfainberg: thanks | 21:37 |
boris-42 | morganfainberg: if you have any questions just ping me=) | 21:37 |
morganfainberg | Aye | 21:37 |
ttx | boris-42: who would you say is the main audience for the profiling results ? Ops ? Devs ? Both ? | 21:38 |
boris-42 | ttx: both | 21:38 |
boris-42 | ttx: Ops - when it will be finished and work via Horizon=) | 21:38 |
ttx | Rockyg: so it would also make sense to get ops reviewing this one | 21:38 |
boris-42 | ttx: sure | 21:38 |
ttx | want to make sure they would use it | 21:38 |
boris-42 | ttx: so it really helps to debug why part of requests works slow on proudction env | 21:38 |
Rockyg | ttx: Yup. so I should put this link into the email to the list, too. | 21:39 |
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bknudson | I hope it's not keystone that's the slow part. | 21:39 |
ttx | It soujnds like a great thing to have overall, I just fail to see the crowd cheering yet | 21:39 |
boris-42 | bknudson: it was=) | 21:39 |
boris-42 | bknudson: in some cases=) | 21:39 |
ttx | so it doesn't seem to get anyone very excited | 21:39 |
boris-42 | bknudson: but not in all=) | 21:39 |
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ttx | last thing we want is to have it in and nobody using it :) | 21:40 |
annegentle_ | boris-42: I just commented inline, but have you considered using x-openstack-request-id for the header rather than another new trace header? | 21:40 |
ttx | so I would very much like ops to say "THIS please" | 21:40 |
boris-42 | annegentle_: I will add paragraph aobut that | 21:40 |
Rockyg | ttx: I don't think you have to worry about no one using it. Many are, they just don't talk about it. | 21:40 |
boris-42 | annegentle_: why we need new one | 21:40 |
boris-42 | annegentle_: ok? | 21:40 |
jogo | I am a little alarmed with the number of similar things we have for this: logging, osprofiler, notifcations (for ceilometer) etc | 21:40 |
asalkeld | ttx from a dev pov this is very nice, I have used it quiet a bit | 21:41 |
boris-42 | ttx: it will be usable via rally perf job | 21:41 |
annegentle_ | boris-42: I'd like to avoid more and more headers if possible, it's hard to document and difficult for users to know which is used when. Just wondered if it's usable. | 21:41 |
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boris-42 | annegentle_: yep but in this case it's impossbile (or I don't know) | 21:41 |
annegentle_ | boris-42: ok, just asking if you considered it, then would be nice to explain if it's not possible | 21:41 |
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boris-42 | annegentle_: yep so I agree that it should be noted in spec | 21:42 |
annegentle_ | boris-42: ok, thanks | 21:42 |
boris-42 | ttx: like load + profiling | 21:42 |
boris-42 | ttx: so I think many Devs will use it + I don't know about other companies but in Mirantis guys are wating for osprofiler | 21:42 |
boris-42 | ttx: as zhiyan is helping around integrating it in ohter project | 21:43 |
boris-42 | ttx: and jamespage was interested as well | 21:43 |
boris-42 | ttx: so there are consumers=) | 21:43 |
Rockyg | I know some Huawei devs are using it | 21:43 |
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ttx | boris-42: some teams (keystone?) have been rejecting their own profiler spec, do you remember what their objections were ? | 21:44 |
ttx | and were steps taken to solve those ? | 21:44 |
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eglynn | jogo: I don't think ceilometer is intended to scratch the same itch directly, though it does act as the default collector for osprofiler | 21:44 |
boris-42 | eglynn: this is another thing, there are already patches to make MongoDB collector | 21:45 |
eglynn | boris-42: cool | 21:45 |
boris-42 | but for OpenStack gates and some installation | 21:45 |
boris-42 | it makes sense to have Ceilometer driver cause it simplifes life=) | 21:45 |
eglynn | yeap | 21:46 |
boris-42 | ttx: hm need more info=) | 21:46 |
devananda | when I last looked at osprofiler, I raised some questions about its use at public cloud scale | 21:46 |
jogo | eglynn: right, but we have a several similar itches and a very piecemeal solution to them | 21:46 |
devananda | are there any large operators evaluating / using it? | 21:46 |
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ttx | boris-42: I hear sensitive information leaking was one of those concerns. We certainly don't want to filter that same sensitive information 3 times (in logs, in notifications, in profiling) | 21:46 |
boris-42 | dhellmann: I don't know, it's not well know thing yet | 21:46 |
boris-42 | ttx: Ah about sensitive info | 21:47 |
Rockyg | anither question for the ops list? devananda | 21:47 |
boris-42 | ttx: yep it can be easily removed | 21:47 |
bknudson | we've got rally code in keystone already | 21:47 |
boris-42 | bknudson: so + profiler and ulitmate tool to figth for better perf and scale | 21:47 |
boris-42 | =) | 21:47 |
morganfainberg | Txt boris-42 I'll look at the spec and the one that was proposed for keystone to make sure appropriate comments are echoed in the cross-project one. | 21:48 |
morganfainberg | I am concerned about needing more custom filtering at each layer. | 21:48 |
boris-42 | morganfainberg: probably I should add more details | 21:48 |
boris-42 | morganfainberg: about how we can remove sensetive info in spec | 21:48 |
boris-42 | morganfainberg: so to make it clear | 21:48 |
morganfainberg | Sure. Like I said I'll comment. | 21:49 |
boris-42 | morganfainberg: like in DB requests don't send args | 21:49 |
devananda | boris-42: you said there's a mongodb backend. does that replace the use of ceilometer to store/retrieve profiling data, or augment it? | 21:49 |
boris-42 | devananda: yep we are wokring on that | 21:49 |
boris-42 | devananda: so you'll be able to use directly mongo if you setup your profiler in such way | 21:49 |
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boris-42 | devananda: and that scales very very well | 21:49 |
devananda | boris-42: is there support for apache or gpl licensed back ends in the works? | 21:49 |
boris-42 | devananda: cause it's one table with 1 index | 21:49 |
morganfainberg | devananda: good question. | 21:50 |
ttx | boris-42: looks like this one needs a bit more iterations, and ops feedback too. Hopefully this discussion will trigger that | 21:50 |
boris-42 | devananda: nope not at this moment, but as far as we get first backend | 21:50 |
boris-42 | devananda: there will be way to add more of them | 21:50 |
devananda | boris-42: indeed. I'm pleased to see a pluggable back end there, like mongodb. but I also know that this limits its use | 21:50 |
ttx | and make it fly above radar | 21:50 |
devananda | ttx: ++ | 21:51 |
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ttx | Sounds like a good idea overall, just want to make sure everyone agrees it's also the right way to do it | 21:51 |
ttx | alright, last comments on that topic ? | 21:51 |
ttx | Please review and comment on the spec to help it move forward | 21:52 |
boris-42 | ttx: thank you for making meeting=) | 21:52 |
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boris-42 | ttx: I will try to add more info to spec during next week | 21:53 |
ttx | no problem. We'll regularly review proposed cross-project specs during this meeting | 21:53 |
annegentle_ | good topic for cross-project, thanks boris-42 | 21:53 |
ttx | #topic Open discussion & announcements | 21:53 |
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ttx | On release side we had 1:1 syncs today, mostly restarting the engine as we come back from the holiday period. | 21:53 |
ttx | Logs at: | 21:53 |
ttx | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ptl_sync/2015/ptl_sync.2015-01-06-09.02.html | 21:54 |
devananda | question for other PTLs - how well have split timezone IRC meetings been working for folks? | 21:54 |
devananda | has anyone fallen back to a single time slot after trying to split? | 21:54 |
morganfainberg | Project meetings? Like nova does? | 21:54 |
devananda | yes | 21:54 |
morganfainberg | Ah keystone still has a single meeting. | 21:54 |
asalkeld | devananda: works ok for Heat | 21:55 |
dhellmann | devananda: ceilometer use to stagger meetings but I don't think they do any more, right eglynn ? | 21:55 |
morganfainberg | We haven't tried a split though. | 21:55 |
eglynn | devananda: we had alternating slots for the ceilometer meeting for a long time, but settled back to a single slot about a year ago | 21:55 |
ttx | it's a difficult balance. You want to be inclusive, but not split them to the point where they are not reaching critical mass either | 21:55 |
devananda | basically, Ironic split a couple months back, but I've seen less attendance overall, and am wondering if it just takes time for folks to adjust | 21:55 |
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devananda | or if, by trying to accomodate everyone, we ended up making it harder on everyone ... | 21:56 |
asalkeld | (6am and 10pm for me tho') - the morning one is a bit quiet from the US | 21:56 |
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ttx | devananda: then I'd say come back to single meetings | 21:56 |
devananda | eglynn: was there a deciding reason for returning to a single slot? | 21:56 |
eglynn | devananda: TBH I thought the split caused some loss of context | 21:56 |
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eglynn | devananda: ... different line-up turning for each alternating meeting | 21:57 |
eglynn | devananda: ... but for a wide geo-spread of contributors, could be the only realistic option | 21:57 |
asalkeld | eglynn: well that is the point | 21:57 |
Rockyg | Are both meetings reflected in the calendar? I only see one, but I have sync issues | 21:57 |
devananda | Rockyg: both are in the cal, yes. | 21:57 |
dhellmann | if the point is to sync the team up, it's hard to do that if there are 2 separate groups meeting | 21:57 |
dhellmann | I thought splitting was meant to put a little of the timezone pain on everyone, not create 2 separate groups of attendees | 21:58 |
asalkeld | dhellmann: yeah, but just totally ignoring part of the team is not good either | 21:58 |
dhellmann | asalkeld: sure | 21:58 |
dhellmann | but when you split, you still want most of the team to come at both times, not create 2 separate groups | 21:58 |
devananda | dhellmann: right, exactly | 21:59 |
eglynn | dhellmann: true, but for some folks though one of the alternating slots just wasn't possible to attend | 21:59 |
dhellmann | eglynn: that's ok as long as it's a minority -- you're never going to get everyone to all of the meetings anyway | 21:59 |
eglynn | dhellmann: true that | 21:59 |
ttx | ok, last minute | 21:59 |
ttx | Anything else, anyone ? | 22:00 |
devananda | thanks for the perspectives, all | 22:00 |
eglynn | for cielometer, we made it harder on ourselves by having the alternating slots on different days of the week also | 22:00 |
eglynn | leading to a short-week, long-week pattern | 22:00 |
ttx | ok, time to close | 22:00 |
ttx | thx everyone | 22:00 |
ttx | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Jan 6 22:00:59 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:01 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/crossproject/2015/crossproject.2015-01-06-21.02.html | 22:01 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/crossproject/2015/crossproject.2015-01-06-21.02.txt | 22:01 |
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morganfainberg | Cheers. | 22:01 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/crossproject/2015/crossproject.2015-01-06-21.02.log.html | 22:01 |
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