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| eantyshev | Hi! can anyone help me with Jenkins / JJB issue? | 14:31 |
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| eantyshev | is here the place? | 14:32 |
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| anteaya | hello | 14:35 |
| anteaya | the meeting begins at 1500 utc | 14:36 |
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| anteaya | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/ThirdParty | 14:36 |
| anteaya | this is our meeting channel | 14:36 |
| anteaya | so at 1500 utc which is in about 25 minutes, our meeting will begin | 14:36 |
| eantyshev | Thanks, anteaya! | 14:37 |
| anteaya | eantyshev: thanks for showing up | 14:38 |
| anteaya | :) | 14:38 |
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| anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 6 15:02:30 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:02 |
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| anteaya | hello | 15:02 |
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| ctlaugh | hi | 15:02 |
| akerr | o/ | 15:02 |
| asselin | hi | 15:02 |
| anteaya | raise your hand if you are here for the third party meeting | 15:02 |
| krtaylor | o/ | 15:03 |
| anteaya | hi | 15:03 |
| eantyshev | hi | 15:03 |
| anteaya | so eantyshev you had a question | 15:03 |
| beecee | hi | 15:03 |
| anteaya | eantyshev: would you like to share your question? | 15:03 |
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| anteaya | or maybe later | 15:05 |
| anteaya | does anyone else have somethign they would like to discuss today? | 15:05 |
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| eantyshev | anteaya: SCP publisher plugin seems like not storing logs when one of build steps fails | 15:05 |
| anteaya | okay here we go | 15:05 |
| anteaya | eantyshev: alright well we are the most helpful when we have a stacktrace to look at | 15:06 |
| anteaya | so if you could find a stacktrace and paste it somewhere, paste.openstack.org is an option | 15:06 |
| anteaya | and bring us the url we can all look | 15:06 |
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| eantyshev | thought this is its normal behavior... | 15:06 |
| anteaya | and then someone can offer a suggestion of what to do next if they have one | 15:06 |
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| eantyshev | no trace, it just doesn't do anything | 15:07 |
| anteaya | well if a build fails we need to know why | 15:07 |
| anteaya | so we need logs in that situation | 15:07 |
| asselin | eantyshev, which "build step" | 15:07 |
| eantyshev | devstack-gate | 15:07 |
| asselin | can you paste the code for that step? | 15:08 |
| asselin | http://paste.openstack.org/ | 15:08 |
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| krtaylor | eantyshev, I'd say look at others setup for SCP, if the testing moves on before copy is complete it may not capture all the artifacts | 15:10 |
| krtaylor | eantyshev, I can't help much here, we are using swift | 15:10 |
| eantyshev | asselin: http://paste.openstack.org/show/198549/ | 15:10 |
| anteaya | eantyshev: how long is the build running before it fails? | 15:11 |
| akerr | i've seen instances where the test will take longer than the job timeout and that will result in no logs being uploaded. What is the type of build error? | 15:11 |
| anteaya | akerr: yes, that is why having a build-timeout 5 minutes longer than the job timeout is important | 15:12 |
| eantyshev | krtaylor: afraid not in my case, the only way I could get them exported was to abort the build | 15:12 |
| anteaya | the build-timeout is 6 hours longer, which is a tad excessive but at least it is longer | 15:12 |
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| eantyshev | akerr: http://paste.openstack.org/show/198550/ | 15:13 |
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| eantyshev | I noticed jenkins.openstack.org is of 1.565.3 , and puppet deployed me 1.580.2 | 15:15 |
| anteaya | eantyshev: how long does the job run before it fails? | 15:16 |
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| eantyshev | anteaya: 30min | 15:16 |
| anteaya | okay | 15:16 |
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| anteaya | can you run devstack successfully by hand on your environment? | 15:17 |
| eantyshev | anteaya: yes, it fails in tempest | 15:18 |
| anteaya | and just so I get a sense, who else has items they would like to discuss today? | 15:18 |
| anteaya | eantyshev: so when you run devstack by hand in your environment, you tempest tests fail, did I understand you correctly? | 15:18 |
| eantyshev | anteaya: yes | 15:19 |
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| anteaya | okay well it dosn't have anything to do with your jenkins version then | 15:20 |
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| anteaya | until you can get devstack and your tempest tests passing in your environment when running them manually, devstack-gate is just going to continue to fail for you | 15:20 |
| akerr | eantyshev: Do you have the "Copy after failure" option checked for the scp publisher plugin on the job? | 15:21 |
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| anteaya | so focus on running devstack by hand in your set up and learn the logs for the tempest tests | 15:21 |
| anteaya | akerr: good thought | 15:21 |
| anteaya | does anyone else have anything they would like to discuss today? | 15:23 |
| eantyshev | akerr: I don't have such an option in job -> configure | 15:23 |
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| anteaya | eantyshev: do you have a gui for your plugin? | 15:23 |
| beecee | anteaya: persistent disconnects using the jenkins ssh plugin in ec2 if anyone has a good fix for that | 15:23 |
| anteaya | beecee: you are up next | 15:23 |
| akerr | eantyshev: do you use jenkins job builder or do you manually define the tests? | 15:24 |
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| eantyshev | akerr: I'm using Hudson SCP publisher plugin https://wiki.jenkins-ci.org/display/JENKINS/SCP+plugin | 15:25 |
| eantyshev | akerr: jobs are made by JJB | 15:25 |
| anteaya | eantyshev: I'm going to have to cut this off now, to make some room for beecee | 15:26 |
| anteaya | eantyshev: the best idea is to continue working on your issue and chatting on irc with others | 15:26 |
| eantyshev | anteaya: Okay | 15:27 |
| anteaya | is there someone in the meeting who can take some time this week and help eantyshev with some basic navigation of his/her setup? | 15:27 |
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| anteaya | :( | 15:27 |
| anteaya | that is a disappointment | 15:27 |
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| anteaya | I didn't mean for them to leave | 15:27 |
| anteaya | well moving on then | 15:28 |
| anteaya | beecee: you were saying? | 15:28 |
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| beecee | anteaya: ok, jenkins 1.605, EC2 plugin, provisions a new instances each time gerrit says so. | 15:28 |
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| beecee | just sometimes the slave doesn't respond to jenkins at random points during the devstack-gate build | 15:29 |
| anteaya | that isn't helpful | 15:29 |
| anteaya | any artifacts you can share? | 15:29 |
| beecee | even tried on a xlarge instance in case it was mem/cpu related | 15:29 |
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| beecee | not really sorry, was more hoping for a 'flip this bit you dumbkoff' response ;) | 15:30 |
| anteaya | ah | 15:30 |
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| anteaya | well I don't use the phrase dumbkoff personally | 15:31 |
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| anteaya | so there is a disappointment for you right off the bat | 15:31 |
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| anteaya | anyone using the EC2 plugin? | 15:31 |
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| ameade | nope :( | 15:31 |
| akerr | sorry to interrupt here, but in case eantyshev decides to read the logs of this meeting here is a link to the scp publisher definition for JJB which shows how to enable copy-after-failure: http://paste.openstack.org/show/198559/ | 15:31 |
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| anteaya | akerr: thanks for that | 15:32 |
| anteaya | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/198559/ | 15:32 |
| anteaya | so if anyone sees eantyshev again please share that with him/her, and if you don't know how please ask | 15:32 |
| asselin | on that note, here's the link to openstack's custom scp plugin: #link http://tarballs.openstack.org/ci/ | 15:33 |
| anteaya | beecee: we might not have much for you | 15:33 |
| beecee | anyeaya: I'll go back to the google-fu saltmines on this one | 15:33 |
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| anteaya | beecee: do come back and share if you find a fix | 15:33 |
| anteaya | so we can have something in the logs to share with others | 15:33 |
| anteaya | asselin: thank you | 15:33 |
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| anteaya | beecee: sorry we don't have anything else for you today | 15:34 |
| anteaya | does anyone have any other item they would like to discuss? | 15:34 |
| asselin | I figured out my soft lockup issue last week | 15:35 |
| anteaya | asselin: oh do tell | 15:35 |
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| asselin | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1413540 | 15:35 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1413540 in linux (Ubuntu Trusty) "Trusty soft lockup issues with nested KVM" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Chris J Arges (arges) | 15:35 |
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| anteaya | well done | 15:35 |
| asselin | just posted my workaround: use qemu on top of kvm. Default is kvm on top of kvm. | 15:36 |
| anteaya | ah | 15:36 |
| rhe00 | asselin: did you get any further on your issue with test_minimum_basic_scenario? | 15:36 |
| asselin | I played around with power setting on the baremetal bios. It seemed to help a bit, but not 100%. | 15:37 |
| anteaya | asselin: glad it at least didn't take you backward | 15:37 |
| asselin | rhe00, no, that was late last week. Will do that today. I was focusing on the soft lockup issue | 15:37 |
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| rhe00 | asselin: ok, I didn't make any progress either over the weekend | 15:38 |
| asselin | mtreinish said he'd help out today | 15:38 |
| anteaya | who else was hitting that one? | 15:38 |
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| anteaya | I had thought there was one other person | 15:38 |
| rhe00 | anteaya: yes, trying to remember his nick | 15:38 |
| anteaya | my memory is telling me 3 for some reason | 15:39 |
| marcusvrn1 | o/ | 15:39 |
| anteaya | it was in the infra channel right after this meeting last week | 15:39 |
| rhe00 | kaiser something? | 15:39 |
| anteaya | marcusvrn1: was it you | 15:39 |
| marcusvrn1 | yes! | 15:39 |
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| anteaya | yay you are here | 15:39 |
| anteaya | marcusvrn1: anything to share that might be helpful? | 15:39 |
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| anteaya | rhe00: kaisers1 was part of the discussion last week too, yes | 15:40 |
| anteaya | good memory | 15:40 |
| marcusvrn1 | no...I didn't make any progress | 15:40 |
| anteaya | okay that's fine | 15:40 |
| anteaya | I hope you all are in #openstack-qa | 15:40 |
| marcusvrn1 | I'm continue on that | 15:40 |
| asselin | Also, for cinder folks: tempest has a false positive! https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1440227 | 15:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1440227 in tempest "encrypted volume tests don't check if a volume is actually encrypted" [Undecided,New] | 15:40 |
| anteaya | so that when asselin and mtreinish talk about it, you can contribute your thoughts too | 15:41 |
| asselin | so if you're passing that test, you might actually be failing.... | 15:41 |
| anteaya | asselin: wonderful, thanks for finding that | 15:41 |
| marcusvrn1 | I'll join the #openstack-qa | 15:41 |
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| anteaya | marcusvrn1: good idea | 15:41 |
| rhe00 | asselin: darn it! :) | 15:41 |
| anteaya | are any of the operators willing to assign themselves that bug? | 15:42 |
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| rhe00 | asselin: I was happy that mine was passing. thanks for the heads up. :) | 15:42 |
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| anteaya | when you agree to take on a bug, you don't have to write the code to fix it, you just have to find someone to help you with that | 15:43 |
| anteaya | and update the bug report and make sure progress is being made | 15:43 |
| rhe00 | so it is a bug in the tempest test that doesn't check the encrypted flag? | 15:43 |
| anteaya | you can get lots of help if you take a bug | 15:43 |
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| asselin | rhe00, no doubt. We had one driver passing, and one failing. After investigating, couldn't figure out why the one passing was working. It was a driver bug. | 15:43 |
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| marcusvrn1 | asselin: my driver is passing too | 15:44 |
| asselin | rhe00, right, if the driver incorrectly doesn't set the encrypted flag it will pass the encrypted volume test | 15:44 |
| rhe00 | ok, but if we fix the bug in tempest, alot of CI's will start failing. Is it up to the bug fixer to fix all the drivers as well or? just asking what the common prcatice is? | 15:45 |
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| asselin | rhe00, yes, if they aren't setting the encrypted flag. | 15:46 |
| rhe00 | asselin: ok | 15:46 |
| asselin | not sure what the process is if there's a lot of driver's with that issue. Better to stay ahead | 15:46 |
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| anteaya | to fix the bug in tempest you fix the tempest bug | 15:47 |
| anteaya | it is the driver maintainer's responsiblity to fix their driver | 15:47 |
| anteaya | which is why it is good you are here | 15:47 |
| asselin | anteaya, +1 | 15:47 |
| rhe00 | anteaya: yes. :) | 15:47 |
| anteaya | the point of the test is to test that something is working | 15:47 |
| marcusvrn1 | anteaya: +1 | 15:47 |
| anteaya | if it isn't working, we need to know (failing tests) and for folks to fix what is there's to fix | 15:48 |
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| anteaya | so if you take on the bug, all you have to do is fix the tempest test | 15:48 |
| anteaya | then it will properly fail when it actually is failing now anyway | 15:48 |
| anteaya | and folks will know about it and can fix their code | 15:48 |
| anteaya | make sense? | 15:48 |
| beecee | fail for the right reason instead of the wrong reason | 15:48 |
| anteaya | exactly | 15:48 |
| anteaya | so first we have to fail for the right reason | 15:49 |
| rhe00 | ok, is it still time to do it for Kilo? | 15:49 |
| asselin | anteaya, or pass for the right reasons :) | 15:49 |
| anteaya | right | 15:49 |
| anteaya | rhe00: the right question is how do we ensure code quality for kilo | 15:49 |
| anteaya | so someone take this to cinder core in cinder channel | 15:49 |
| anteaya | make sure it gets on the cinder meeting agenda | 15:50 |
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| anteaya | then cinder will know and prioritize if as they need to for rc's | 15:50 |
| anteaya | make sense? | 15:50 |
| asselin | I can add it to cinder agenda | 15:50 |
| anteaya | thank you | 15:50 |
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| anteaya | and please have a chat in cinder channel so that folks know and can figure out the priority | 15:51 |
| anteaya | thanks for bringing this up | 15:51 |
| asselin | anteaya, +1 probably better to do that + add a topic on mailing list | 15:51 |
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| anteaya | asselin: I agree thought what is posted to the ml is thingee's call I would say | 15:51 |
| anteaya | as clarity is important, not confusion | 15:52 |
| asselin | anteaya, ok | 15:52 |
| anteaya | thanks | 15:52 |
| anteaya | when you dno't know whether to say something or not? | 15:52 |
| anteaya | say something in open source | 15:52 |
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| anteaya | we would rather know something is broken and address it with confidence | 15:52 |
| anteaya | than ship something someone knew was broken but didn't tell anyone else | 15:53 |
| anteaya | at the very least release notes are good | 15:53 |
| anteaya | make sense? | 15:53 |
| asselin | +1 | 15:53 |
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| anteaya | great | 15:53 |
| anteaya | so 6 minutes | 15:53 |
| anteaya | anyone have anything else? | 15:54 |
| anteaya | we can stare at our screens for another 5 minutes or move on | 15:54 |
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| anteaya | I'm for moving on | 15:54 |
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| anteaya | any objections? | 15:55 |
| anteaya | okay thanks everyone | 15:55 |
| anteaya | I appreciate your participation | 15:55 |
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| anteaya | see you next week | 15:55 |
| anteaya | #endmeeting | 15:55 |
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| rhe00 | thanks, bye | 15:55 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 6 15:55:36 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-04-06-15.02.html | 15:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-04-06-15.02.txt | 15:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-04-06-15.02.log.html | 15:55 |
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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:20 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 6 16:20:44 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:20 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:20 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:20 |
| rakhmerov | hi | 16:20 |
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| m4dcoder | hey | 16:20 |
| akuznetsova | hello | 16:21 |
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| NikolayM | hi all ! | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | hey Wiinson, how's it going? | 16:22 |
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| m4dcoder | pretty good. back in the US. thanks for asking. | 16:23 |
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| rakhmerov | :) | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | ok, let's start | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Review Action Items | 16:24 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, we just have one item | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | rakhmerov: file LP bugs for concurrent issues in data flow and join tests | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | hm.. and it's not done actually, I still need to do this | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov: file LP bugs for concurrent issues in data flow and join tests | 16:25 |
| dzimine | hi all | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | hi dzimine | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Current status (by team member) | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | my status: was busy with demo preparations and fixing some small bugs, today I sent a patch to get rid of all v1 stuff | 16:26 |
| dzimine | sorry to jump out of context, want to bring m4dcoder's idea re putting more load on functional tests for complex flows. | 16:26 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 16:27 |
| dzimine | because we are using sqlite, etc, some complex flows are difficult to test. | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | agree | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | you're talking about complex workflows or high load? | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | or both? | 16:27 |
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| m4dcoder | i'm addressing the comments for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170633/. also, i'll be adding the validate commands to mistral client. also another patch to add YAQL eval to the DSL validation. | 16:28 |
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| dzimine | rakhmerov: complex workflows. Adding high load is just running the complex workflows under rally. | 16:29 |
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| NikolayM | my status: Fixed a set of bugs: 'with-items', task API, action exec API, implemented blueprints: task implicit access and keep-result property | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:29 |
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| rakhmerov | dzimine, I got it | 16:29 |
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| rakhmerov | we need to create a plan what workflows we'd like to see in these tests and when we're going to start adding these tests | 16:30 |
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| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov, dzimine: figure out a plan for adding complex workflows into integration tests | 16:30 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 16:31 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic RC1 progress | 16:32 |
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| rakhmerov | So as far as RC1, just a reminder that it's scheduled for Apr 17 | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | we're now fixing lots of bugs and working on blueprints based on that refactoring that was done in March | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | what I would like to do right now is to look at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/kilo | 16:33 |
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| rakhmerov | and decide what's feasible to complete till Apr 17 | 16:34 |
| dzimine | looking. | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | and we want to complete | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | please look at those that are not assigned to any milestones | 16:34 |
| dzimine | I am pushing to do the DSL changes, the CERTAIN ones, as outlined in the doc https://docs.google.com/a/stackstorm.com/document/d/1Gy6V9YBt8W4llyErO_itHetkF1oNYv4ka-_5LdFKA18/edit# | 16:35 |
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| rakhmerov | yes | 16:35 |
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| rakhmerov | and btw, we don't have all the BPs for that | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | we need to create them | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | #action dzimine, rakhmerov: create necessary BPs for changes described in https://docs.google.com/a/stackstorm.com/document/d/1Gy6V9YBt8W4llyErO_itHetkF1oNYv4ka-_5LdFKA18/edit# | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | it's not going to take long though to implement those changes | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | so, what about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-task-concurrency ? | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | dzimine, how important is it for you? | 16:37 |
| dzimine | imo we can live without it once we ensure the order of results match the order of input. | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | it's not so hard to implement I guess, it needs really thorough testing | 16:37 |
| dzimine | I am ok to push it out. | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | ok, then I would not hurry with this BP, let's move it to Liberty | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | done | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | the next one: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-default-input-values | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | I feel like doing it | 16:38 |
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| rakhmerov | because 1) it's related to DSL 2) it's simple and may be useful | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | thoughts? | 16:39 |
| NikolayM | +1 | 16:39 |
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| dzimine | +1 | 16:40 |
| dzimine | alghough to be fair it's additive to DSL. | 16:40 |
| dzimine | I am more concerned of the DSL changes, which we want to nail in Kilo. | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | yeah, I agree but it's just half an hour to implement and test | 16:41 |
| m4dcoder | can someone take that one from me? | 16:41 |
| dzimine | Our kilo story is - DSL is done, next is API adjustments and reliability / performance. | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | ooh, it's assigned on you | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | np | 16:41 |
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| rakhmerov | yes, dzimine, I agree | 16:42 |
| m4dcoder | thx. i'll be busy with the DSL validatio. | 16:42 |
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| rakhmerov | sure | 16:42 |
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| rakhmerov | we'll assign someone to it later | 16:42 |
| dzimine | I only need one in DSL before KIlo - getting rid of "policy" keyword. | 16:42 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, how about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-workflow-constants ? | 16:42 |
| dzimine | The rest are additive, and we can do them later. | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | dzimine, can you file a BP for policies? | 16:43 |
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| dzimine | oh, and another one - another small one - one liner for on-success/on-error, etc. | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | so what about workflow constants, it's a part of that Google doc as well | 16:43 |
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| dzimine | will do, for both I just mentioned. | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | ok, thank you | 16:43 |
| dzimine | they're additive, and we can deal with them later. | 16:44 |
| dzimine | same with extra conditions. | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | I'd be ok with that too | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | any objections from anyone? | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | on workflow constants (variables) | 16:44 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, moved to Liberty as well | 16:45 |
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| rakhmerov | this one is what I really want to do https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-explicit-task-parameters | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | but may be not now | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | because we still need to think it over more detailed and carefully | 16:46 |
| dzimine | this will be rocking a boat too much, | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:46 |
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| dzimine | just like with extra conditios, it's not complex on implementation, but on convinient syntax and model. | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | and it's additive too, right? | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | it seems like | 16:46 |
| dzimine | I believe so | 16:46 |
| dzimine | but you never know till you designed it :) | 16:47 |
| dzimine | conditions seem to be additive. | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | ok, let's move to Liberty | 16:47 |
| dzimine | I please invite you to comment on condition syntax. | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | wait a second | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | what do you mean by "conditions"? | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | what exactly are you talking about? | 16:47 |
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| dzimine | https://docs.google.com/a/stackstorm.com/document/d/1Gy6V9YBt8W4llyErO_itHetkF1oNYv4ka-_5LdFKA18/edit#heading=h.n1jc8i9qhikt | 16:48 |
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| dzimine | "Invent better conditions" section. | 16:48 |
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| dzimine | I recently added a proposal there but didn't get too much comments yet. | 16:49 |
| dzimine | move to Libery? | 16:49 |
| dzimine | cut-out-v1 - do it now?! | 16:50 |
| dzimine | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-cut-out-v1 | 16:50 |
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| rakhmerov | ooh, it's almost done! :) | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170837/ | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | it actually works in my local environment but is failing on Jenkins, need to figure out the problem | 16:51 |
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| rakhmerov | so as far as conditions, let me look at this section again, looks like I forgot what you suggested or this section didn't exist in the doc when I was looking at it | 16:52 |
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| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov: make sure to look at "Invent better condition" section in https://docs.google.com/a/stackstorm.com/document/d/1Gy6V9YBt8W4llyErO_itHetkF1oNYv4ka-_5LdFKA18/edit#heading=h.n1jc8i9qhikt | 16:52 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, I'm pretty sure that what's left will be done till Apr 17 | 16:53 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, let's now move to open discussion | 16:54 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Open Discussion | 16:54 |
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| rakhmerov | any more topics guys? | 16:54 |
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| rakhmerov | Winson, sorry for not being able to review your patch today, I'll do it tomorrow the first thing | 16:54 |
| dzimine | so rakhmerov the two BP I'll create (get rid of policies, one-liner for conditions) I assign to kilo-3, right? | 16:55 |
| rakhmerov | no-no | 16:55 |
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| rakhmerov | RC-1 | 16:55 |
| dzimine | rc1. ok. | 16:55 |
| rakhmerov | kilo-3 is closed | 16:55 |
| dzimine | got it. | 16:55 |
| m4dcoder | np | 16:56 |
| rakhmerov | ok, so let's close the meeting then unless you have something else? | 16:56 |
| dzimine | if we're done with technical, I have a small non-tech item | 16:56 |
| rakhmerov | sure, go ahead | 16:56 |
| rakhmerov | 3 mins left | 16:57 |
| rakhmerov | before the next meeting | 16:57 |
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| dzimine | Given @m4dcoder is doing more and pretty much assigned to Mistral from StackStorm, is it good time to propose him to core_team? | 16:57 |
| dzimine | We can follow-up on the mail list. | 16:57 |
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| rakhmerov | yes, I'm 100% for it | 16:57 |
| dzimine | just what's your thoughst? | 16:57 |
| rakhmerov | please go ahead and shoot an email in ML | 16:58 |
| dzimine | ok. | 16:58 |
| rakhmerov | I'll support his candidacy with the great pleasure :) | 16:58 |
| m4dcoder | thx. :D | 16:58 |
| rakhmerov | you deserve it :) | 16:58 |
| dzimine | also, we need to market our meeting with new contributors somehow. | 16:58 |
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| rakhmerov | thanks to you for your amazing work! | 16:58 |
| dzimine | ok, good talking to you folks, till later now! | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | yeah | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | thanks everyone for joining us today | 16:59 |
| NikolayM | bye | 16:59 |
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| rakhmerov | I hope it'll become a good tradition :) | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | bye | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 16:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 6 16:59:27 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-04-06-16.20.html | 16:59 |
| m4dcoder | thx! ttyl | 16:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-04-06-16.20.txt | 16:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-04-06-16.20.log.html | 16:59 |
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| sarob | #startmeeting training-guides | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 6 17:00:32 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' | 17:00 |
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| sarob | roll call | 17:00 |
| matjazp | hey | 17:00 |
| rluethi | hey | 17:01 |
| * sarob \o/ | 17:01 | |
| matjazp | no special meeting agenda today? | 17:01 |
| rluethi | apparently not. | 17:01 |
| matjazp | rluethi: your handy links will become handy ;) | 17:02 |
| rluethi | gives us more time for Juno slides. | 17:02 |
| sayalilunkad | hello | 17:02 |
| sarob | heloo | 17:02 |
| rluethi | hi, sayali | 17:02 |
| sarob | i updated agenda | 17:02 |
| sarob | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/training-guides#Agenda_06_April | 17:02 |
| rluethi | that's cheating. | 17:02 |
| sarob | well thats how i roll | 17:03 |
| rluethi | as I was saying :-) | 17:03 |
| sarob | ;) | 17:03 |
| matjazp | hi sayali | 17:03 |
| sarob | #topic reviews | 17:03 |
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| sarob | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/training-guides,n,z | 17:03 |
| sarob | automation thingy | 17:04 |
| sarob | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169658/ | 17:04 |
| matjazp | sarob: automation should be done in steps. First the gate check, than other stuff | 17:05 |
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| sarob | and this too much in one step | 17:06 |
| sarob | this patch | 17:06 |
| sarob | as is | 17:06 |
| matjazp | that's how I started it in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169220/ | 17:06 |
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| sarob | got it | 17:07 |
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| sarob | so dbite adjust his patch for yours | 17:07 |
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| matjazp | sarob: yes I think so, he still needs to rebase after we merge mine | 17:08 |
| sarob | matjazp right | 17:08 |
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| matjazp | Pranav will enable building in the script, after that we will proceed with small steps.. Infra stuff can be tricky | 17:09 |
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| sarob | agreed | 17:10 |
| sarob | i added noted | 17:10 |
| sarob | notes | 17:10 |
| sarob | move on to your upstream patches | 17:10 |
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| sarob | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170736/ | 17:10 |
| sarob | thanks for picking this up | 17:11 |
| matjazp | I was looking at hiero (formatting and cleaning that needs to be done) and cleaned Upstream Training... quite some patches, but they are independent | 17:11 |
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| sarob | yeah, i like small, independent patches | 17:11 |
| matjazp | we still need one that will adjust CSS to look as "regular" OpenStack slides (red title, etc.) | 17:12 |
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| matjazp | next wee need to copy Upstream format to the Training Guides | 17:13 |
| sarob | sayalilunkad: can you take the CSS formatting on? | 17:13 |
| sarob | im a bit slammed with hiring this week | 17:14 |
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| sarob | matjazp: i agree we follow upstream content lead | 17:14 |
| matjazp | sarob: are there any official guidelines regarding the look of the slides for OpenStack? At the Foundation? Reed, do you know? | 17:14 |
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| sayalilunkad | matjazp: we will have to adjust the CSS to look like the upstream slides? | 17:15 |
| sarob | laurensell you online? | 17:15 |
| matjazp | sayalilunkad: no, we need to adjust CSS so slides look more like other OpenStack stuff... pages and all that | 17:15 |
| reed | matjazp, not that I know of | 17:15 |
| matjazp | reed: what about regarding web page looks? | 17:15 |
| matjazp | we can adapt that | 17:16 |
| reed | matjazp, yes | 17:16 |
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| sayalilunkad | matjazp sarob : Ah, I could but it will take me some time. A bit caught up atm. By end of this month I can take it up | 17:16 |
| reed | there is also a theme on docs.openstack.org we can adapt to | 17:16 |
| reed | best effort is what I suggest | 17:16 |
| reed | whatever can be achieved with the smallest effort | 17:16 |
| sarob | reed: i like that | 17:16 |
| reed | 'presentable' is good enough :) | 17:17 |
| matjazp | reed: exactly... just few tweaks... RED title, maybe font and some other design stuff | 17:17 |
| matjazp | nothing fancy | 17:17 |
| sarob | reed: for all the training content, right? | 17:17 |
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| reed | yep, glad we are all on the same page | 17:17 |
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| reed | sarob, in general, yes | 17:17 |
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| matjazp | sarob: all our material should look the same | 17:17 |
| reed | I wouldn't want to spend too much time on a fancy layout when we have so much more to do on the content side | 17:17 |
| sarob | matjazp: right on | 17:18 |
| matjazp | reed: yes, I agree | 17:18 |
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| reed | i mean, if someone shows up with something supercool looking like docs.openstack.org then fine but it's not a priority IMHO | 17:18 |
| sayalilunkad | agreed | 17:18 |
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| matjazp | reed: a look of the new docs.openstack.org was a community effort? Or some help from profi designers? | 17:20 |
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| reed | matjazp, it was a huge effort: first one of the designers at the Foundation made the design, then Tom and others worked on creating a theme | 17:20 |
| reed | the designers at the foundation are horribly busy, docs rewrite took over 1 year | 17:21 |
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| annegentle | reed: right | 17:21 |
| reed | granted, it's a more complex task than a template for slides | 17:21 |
| annegentle | reed: also true | 17:22 |
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| reed | but still, it should give you an idea: we don't want to get there :) | 17:22 |
| reed | just some color adjustement and slap the openstack logo somewhere (maybe) and we're good to go :) | 17:22 |
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| matjazp | reed: yes... and we take this stuff from docs pages :) No wheel reinventing. | 17:23 |
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| sarob | all sounds good | 17:24 |
| sayalilunkad | ok, so it's good if we have it by EOM? | 17:24 |
| sarob | its good for me | 17:25 |
| matjazp | reed: when's your next upstream training? | 17:25 |
| sarob | summit? | 17:25 |
| reed | matjazp, in vancouver, may 16 | 17:25 |
| reed | BTW, I am looking for people to help with the Lego buildings | 17:25 |
| sarob | so EOM cleanup in prep for summit is right on | 17:25 |
| reed | need to be local in Vancouver or Seattle or near there | 17:25 |
| sarob | reed: weekend before summit? | 17:26 |
| reed | sarob, the training starts on Saturday, the Lego need to be done by then | 17:26 |
| sarob | or just sunday | 17:26 |
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| sarob | 17 may | 17:26 |
| reed | sarob, two days | 17:26 |
| reed | Sat and Sun | 17:27 |
| sarob | okay | 17:27 |
| sarob | im a maybe | 17:27 |
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| sarob | im getting my new gear setup | 17:29 |
| sarob | so i can update | 17:29 |
| sarob | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/142259/ | 17:29 |
| sarob | and others | 17:29 |
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| sayalilunkad | ok | 17:29 |
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| sarob | thats all i have this go around | 17:30 |
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| sayalilunkad | I wanted to know if I have everyone's approval to upload the AV video on the official channel | 17:31 |
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| sarob | +1 | 17:31 |
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| rluethi | +1 | 17:31 |
| matjazp | sure, +1 | 17:31 |
| sayalilunkad | rluethi: ? | 17:32 |
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| rluethi | sayalilunkad: ? | 17:32 |
| sayalilunkad | approval to upload the AV video on the official channel | 17:32 |
| * sarob ? | 17:32 | |
| matjazp | ? | 17:32 |
| rluethi | sayalilunkad: It's right there. Also, I wrote sort of a review on the ML. | 17:32 |
| * matjazp just wants to print pretty question marks as other cool kids ;) | 17:33 | |
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| sayalilunkad | rluethi: yes I got the mail.. And it is not on the channel yet | 17:33 |
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| rluethi | anyhow, for the record, +2 +1 :-). | 17:33 |
| sarob | !! | 17:34 |
| openstack | sarob: Error: "!" is not a valid command. | 17:34 |
| sarob | oops | 17:34 |
| sayalilunkad | cool,so we are good to go | 17:34 |
| rluethi | lulz | 17:34 |
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| sarob | #topic any other business | 17:34 |
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| sarob | im good to go | 17:35 |
| rluethi | I'm good | 17:35 |
| sarob | anyone else | 17:35 |
| sarob | ? | 17:35 |
| matjazp | nothing else from me | 17:35 |
| sayalilunkad | nah I'm good | 17:35 |
| sarob | swweeeet | 17:35 |
| sarob | time back to y'all | 17:35 |
| rluethi | bye, then | 17:36 |
| sarob | have a great week everyone | 17:36 |
| sayalilunkad | bye | 17:36 |
| sayalilunkad | :) | 17:36 |
| matjazp | bye all | 17:36 |
| sarob | #endmeeting | 17:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:36 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 6 17:36:17 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-04-06-17.00.html | 17:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-04-06-17.00.txt | 17:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-04-06-17.00.log.html | 17:36 |
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| sdake_ | #startmeeting kolla | 20:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 6 20:02:04 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sdake_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:02 | |
| sdake_ | #topic rollcall | 20:02 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:02 | |
| sdake_ | hey folks :) | 20:02 |
| daneyon | hey | 20:02 |
| rhallisey | hi | 20:02 |
| sdake_ | jpeeler making it today? | 20:02 |
| jpeeler | hey | 20:02 |
| sdake_ | he ythere :) | 20:03 |
| sdake_ | slower alive? | 20:03 |
| sdake_ | #topic announcements | 20:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcements (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:03 | |
| sdake_ | quick couple of announcements to make | 20:03 |
| sdake_ | first off, last I checked, the kolla talk at summit was #5 most popular talk on sched.org | 20:04 |
| sdake_ | so if your a core and your going, try to get there early - I'd like all the cores in the room if possible | 20:04 |
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| rhallisey | sure thing | 20:04 |
| sdake_ | i dont know what kind of room capacity they will give us | 20:05 |
| sdake_ | the room is already assigned | 20:05 |
| sdake_ | but there is about 65 people registered atm | 20:05 |
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| sdake_ | second thing, upstream docker is at rc4, and I get the impression docker 1.6.0 is coming RSN | 20:05 |
| sdake_ | like this week | 20:05 |
| sdake_ | once docker 1.6.0 is out we can stop carrying our own binaries and whatnot | 20:06 |
| sdake_ | yay :) | 20:06 |
| daneyon | woohoo | 20:06 |
| sdake_ | third thing, docker-compose PR for pid support has support from two reviewers and was awaiting integration test additions - which I just finished prior to this meeting | 20:06 |
| sdake_ | so prior to summit, Id expect we can run everything from master or released packages without any magic :) | 20:07 |
| sdake_ | yay | 20:07 |
| sdake_ | anyone else have any announcements? | 20:07 |
| daneyon | nice | 20:07 |
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| sdake_ | #topic k4 planning | 20:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "k4 planning (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:07 | |
| sdake_ | I just noticed rhallisey cranked out some cinder containers | 20:08 |
| sdake_ | but haven't reviewed yet | 20:08 |
| sdake_ | yay cinder :) | 20:08 |
| rhallisey | uh | 20:08 |
| sdake_ | rhallisey do they work ? :) | 20:08 |
| rhallisey | its still iwp | 20:08 |
| rhallisey | no | 20:08 |
| sdake_ | ok | 20:08 |
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| sdake_ | well step in the right direction atleast :) | 20:08 |
| rhallisey | i trieda na all inone | 20:08 |
| rhallisey | tried to put them all in one | 20:08 |
| rhallisey | to see if i could get something going | 20:09 |
| rhallisey | didn't quite work | 20:09 |
| daneyon | rhallisey i'm in at the same place with neutron agents | 20:09 |
| sdake_ | recommend reading the ops guide | 20:09 |
| rhallisey | so I pulled them apart by service | 20:09 |
| sdake_ | it says step by step how to configure the services | 20:09 |
| rhallisey | ok | 20:09 |
| rhallisey | ya I have a config file that looks good | 20:10 |
| rhallisey | but ill check it out | 20:10 |
| daneyon | last night i started testing running multiple processes in a container using supervisor | 20:10 |
| sdake_ | danyeon you want to give us an update on neutron? | 20:10 |
| sdake_ | bdestur said l3 and dhcp need to share some part of the filesystem via a volume mount | 20:10 |
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| sdake_ | are you having trouble there or elsewhere? | 20:11 |
| daneyon | struggling with the agents containers. i pulled in a neutron dev, but still trying to figure things out. Last night, i started to consolidate the agents in a single container and use supervisor. | 20:11 |
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| daneyon | this is like the OSDA model | 20:11 |
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| daneyon | If that works, are others cool with this model at least for our first iteration of Neutron? | 20:11 |
| sdake_ | samyaple said he had a problem with netns not being visiable outside the container for the agents to manage | 20:11 |
| sdake_ | first iteration is good, but I'd like to not use supervisord if at all possible | 20:12 |
| sdake_ | but if it works together it will work separately | 20:12 |
| sdake_ | just a matter of finding out where the state is shared | 20:12 |
| daneyon | ya, containers spawning net namespaces is far outside the typical containerized app behavior. | 20:12 |
| sdake_ | with --net=host it should just work (TM) | 20:12 |
| daneyon | sdake_ Agreed,I want to get them to work together then look at fine tuning. | 20:13 |
| sdake_ | daneyon was neutron not working prior? | 20:13 |
| daneyon | I would prefer if the combined agent container s is accepted for our initial Neutron release, so I can make progress with HA. Then come back to improving Neutron. | 20:13 |
| daneyon | sdake_ I thought it was | 20:14 |
| sdake_ | that wfm, neutron is definately #1 priority atm, followed by ha | 20:14 |
| daneyon | adake_ agreed. I want to get Neutron out the gate and then go to HA | 20:14 |
| sdake_ | if I demo nova networking at summit i'm going to get kicked out of the room :) | 20:14 |
| daneyon | I think it comes down to what will we accept for our 1st iteration of Neutron. | 20:14 |
| sdake_ | fat container, with idea of making it skinny :) | 20:15 |
| daneyon | combined container or does the 1s iteration need to have each agent running in seperate containers? | 20:15 |
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| sdake_ | danyeon get whatevery oucan to work to work | 20:15 |
| daneyon | i'm a fat container | 20:15 |
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| sdake_ | and we can revisit in liberty | 20:15 |
| daneyon | cool, that's what I thought and why i started down the supervisor road yesterday. | 20:16 |
| daneyon | sweet | 20:16 |
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| sdake_ | once you finish up, and get things working reliably, I might take a stab at making it skinny | 20:16 |
| sdake_ | time will tell :) | 20:16 |
| sdake_ | jpeeler any action on functional tests? | 20:16 |
| daneyon | i may do the same, I would just really like to have multi-node HA for Vancouver. I know their is a lot of work ahead of us to make that happen. | 20:17 |
| jpeeler | negative, but i haven't forgotten about them | 20:17 |
| sdake_ | daneyon ya I'm holding out hope we can get 3 node ha controller working, but if it isn't, thats ok with me | 20:17 |
| sdake_ | i'd rather we have the main services working | 20:17 |
| sdake_ | neutron being prime one :) | 20:17 |
| daneyon | agreed. I'll definitely get Neutron working, it just may not be optimal for the time being. | 20:18 |
| sdake_ | jpeeler I am going to be submitting a review shorty that adds tox -e functional testing | 20:18 |
| sdake_ | but it doesn't actually run any test cases | 20:18 |
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| sdake_ | there will be a tests/setup.py | 20:18 |
| sdake_ | a person would run that | 20:18 |
| sdake_ | then run tox -e functional | 20:19 |
| sdake_ | and the functional test cases would be run via testr | 20:19 |
| sdake_ | jpeeler sound good? then you can integrate in that directory | 20:19 |
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| jpeeler | sdake_: sounds great, you've done a lot of the work | 20:19 |
| sdake_ | well I dont know how to write the test cases :) | 20:19 |
| sdake_ | so that will be a challenge | 20:19 |
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| sdake_ | i think our first good test case should be start followed by doing some basic commands | 20:20 |
| sdake_ | i'm not quite sure how to do that from python | 20:20 |
| jpeeler | i have an idea, so we'll see | 20:20 |
| sdake_ | nice | 20:20 |
| sdake_ | ok, well lets keep cracking at it | 20:20 |
| sdake_ | lots more peope are interested in kolla then 3 mo ago | 20:21 |
| sdake_ | so I expect we will have our hands full in iberty :) | 20:21 |
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| sdake_ | #topic open discussion | 20:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:21 | |
| sdake_ | nice short meeting - 21 minutes :) | 20:21 |
| sdake_ | anyone have any open topics to discuss | 20:21 |
| sdake_ | ok then | 20:22 |
| sdake_ | thanks for coming :) | 20:22 |
| sdake_ | #endmeeting | 20:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:23 | |
| rhallisey | thx! | 20:23 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 6 20:23:00 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-04-06-20.02.html | 20:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-04-06-20.02.txt | 20:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-04-06-20.02.log.html | 20:23 |
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