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| hodos|2 | hi, is there thirdparty ci meeting today? | 14:15 |
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| wznoinsk | I think they happen an hour later since DST (in 40mins) | 14:20 |
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| anteaya | hodos|2 wznoinsk yes it starts at 1500 | 14:54 |
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| anteaya | daylight savings time doesn't change the time, always 1500 utc | 14:54 |
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| anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 27 15:00:55 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:00 |
| anteaya | and we're off | 15:01 |
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| anteaya | hodos|2 wznoinsk ping | 15:01 |
| wznoinsk | o/ | 15:01 |
| hodos|2 | hi | 15:01 |
| lennyb | hi | 15:01 |
| akerr | o/ | 15:01 |
| ameade | o/ | 15:01 |
| anteaya | raise your hand if you are here for the third party meeting | 15:01 |
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| rhe00_ | hi | 15:01 |
| anteaya | hello group | 15:01 |
| asselin | hi | 15:01 |
| anteaya | how is everyone today? | 15:01 |
| ameade | busy! | 15:01 |
| akerr | it's monday | 15:01 |
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| marcusvrn_ | Hi | 15:01 |
| krtaylor | o/ | 15:01 |
| anteaya | yes it is Monday indeed | 15:01 |
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| devvesa | Hi | 15:02 |
| anteaya | so we have had to restart gerrit twice in the last 12 hours | 15:02 |
| anteaya | has everyone been keeping track? | 15:02 |
| anteaya | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Infrastructure_Status | 15:03 |
| anteaya | this is a good page to bookmark to see infra status | 15:04 |
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| anteaya | any statue report sent out via the statusbot also posts to this page | 15:04 |
| anteaya | asselin: would you like to kick things off with a status of your work? | 15:04 |
| anteaya | many folks would like to hear from you | 15:04 |
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| asselin | sure | 15:04 |
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| asselin | last I checked, we have 2 people who've self-assigned stories | 15:05 |
| anteaya | yay | 15:05 |
| anteaya | can we get a link to the page so folks can see | 15:05 |
| asselin | and submitted patches to refactor the jenkins server & zuul | 15:05 |
| anteaya | and marvel at the courage of those 2 additional people | 15:05 |
| asselin | #link https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000101 | 15:05 |
| devvesa | I'm willing to assign to myself the 'Refactor Jenkins Job Builder' one, asselin | 15:05 |
| anteaya | ohhhh patches! | 15:05 |
| asselin | devvesa, go for it! | 15:06 |
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| anteaya | yay tristanC and fbo | 15:06 |
| anteaya | and yay devvesa | 15:06 |
| anteaya | thank you | 15:06 |
| devvesa | However, I am not familiar with the StoryBoard interface. Is there any place where I can read for more details? | 15:06 |
| anteaya | devvesa: the sign in is the same sign in as lauchpad and gerrit | 15:06 |
| devvesa | Yes, I am loged into | 15:07 |
| fbo | Hello all ! | 15:07 |
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| devvesa | s/loged/logged | 15:07 |
| anteaya | devvesa: and the interface is fairly straightforward, you can ask in infra if you have problems navigating around | 15:07 |
| anteaya | devvesa: great | 15:07 |
| anteaya | fbo: hello there | 15:07 |
| devvesa | I mean to read the details of the task | 15:07 |
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| tristanC | o/ | 15:07 |
| asselin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:downstream-puppet+project:openstack-infra/puppet-openstackci+status:open,n,z | 15:07 |
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| asselin | ^^ current patches in the puppet-openstackci repo | 15:08 |
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| devvesa | Ok. I'll take a look (already assigned to me) | 15:08 |
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| anteaya | devvesa: do let us know if you have questions or encounter an issue | 15:08 |
| asselin | devvesa, thank you | 15:09 |
| anteaya | asselin: yay | 15:09 |
| devvesa | anteaya, asselin: Ok! | 15:09 |
| tristanC | devvesa: well I left the jjb part out of my humble jenkins server refactor | 15:09 |
| asselin | there's only a few more left, so don't wait too long to self-assign if your interested :) | 15:09 |
| anteaya | can anyone test tristanC's jenkins patch? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175571/ | 15:10 |
| anteaya | it would be good to get some people verifying that the code works for them | 15:10 |
| asselin | anteaya, ++ | 15:10 |
| anteaya | and comment on the patch to ensure the documentation that accomanies it also does what you need | 15:10 |
| asselin | that's another great way to help out | 15:10 |
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| asselin | also, no story yet, but people thinking about how to test these in the gate would be great | 15:11 |
| anteaya | yes | 15:11 |
| asselin | I offered this as a starting point: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169117/ | 15:12 |
| anteaya | we could consider an expanstion of fbo's testing spec | 15:12 |
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| anteaya | asselin: nice | 15:12 |
| asselin | but there are likely better ways to test. And also need to see how to include that into the gate checks | 15:12 |
| anteaya | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169117/ | 15:12 |
| anteaya | yes | 15:12 |
| anteaya | but we need a place to begin | 15:12 |
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| asselin | anteaya, fbo link to testing spec? | 15:12 |
| anteaya | thanks for offering this asselin | 15:12 |
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| fbo | actually I thought the test spec can be use to test openstackci module too | 15:13 |
| anteaya | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/172833/ | 15:13 |
| anteaya | fbo: can you perhaps submit a new patchset | 15:13 |
| anteaya | and make it more about testing in general? | 15:13 |
| anteaya | and perhaps remove containers from the title | 15:13 |
| fbo | I'm curently working on POC I'll submit soon | 15:13 |
| anteaya | since the spec is about testing | 15:13 |
| anteaya | and containers are an implementation detail | 15:14 |
| anteaya | fbo: thank you | 15:14 |
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| anteaya | and yes, test all the things | 15:14 |
| anteaya | asselin fbo thank you both | 15:14 |
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| anteaya | any more here about asselin's work? | 15:14 |
| anteaya | or how to help upstream in any way? | 15:14 |
| asselin | well I think this helps downstream more than upstream...imho | 15:15 |
| anteaya | oh yes | 15:15 |
| anteaya | to be sure | 15:15 |
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| anteaya | how to change upstream | 15:15 |
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| anteaya | would that be more accurate? | 15:15 |
| asselin | yes | 15:15 |
| anteaya | great, thank you | 15:16 |
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| anteaya | so thanks asselin fbo tristanC and devvesa | 15:16 |
| anteaya | yay you | 15:16 |
| asselin | thanks | 15:16 |
| devvesa | thanks! | 15:16 |
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| fbo | your are welcome ! | 15:16 |
| anteaya | if there is nothing more here today, let's move on | 15:16 |
| anteaya | :) | 15:16 |
| anteaya | does anyone have anything they would like to discuss today? | 15:16 |
| anteaya | how are people's systems operating? | 15:17 |
| anteaya | everyone's system is working perfectly? | 15:17 |
| anteaya | it is a record | 15:17 |
| asselin | so far so good...i think | 15:18 |
| anteaya | asselin: yay | 15:18 |
| hodos|2 | I have a problem with nodepool operating on openstack on top of vsphere but not investigated yet | 15:18 |
| anteaya | hodos|2: does your problem output a stacktrace? | 15:18 |
| hodos|2 | it just took all the space on the datastore | 15:19 |
| anteaya | you have nodepool on it's own network, yes? | 15:19 |
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| anteaya | nodepool believes that anything it can talk to belongs to it | 15:19 |
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| anteaya | and will implement vms anywhere it can | 15:19 |
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| hodos|2 | ok...but can you limit it somehow on the vm count | 15:20 |
| asselin | hodos|2, nodepool as a max-server setting | 15:21 |
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| anteaya | hodos|2: can you see that in the config file? | 15:23 |
| hodos|2 | asselin: what about the image build phase? | 15:23 |
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| hodos|2 | anteaya: yes | 15:23 |
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| asselin | hodos|2, image builds would use an extra server, not included in max. | 15:23 |
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| asselin | hodos|2, however if you use Disk-image-builder (which I highly recommend for many other reasons) you don't have that issue | 15:24 |
| hodos|2 | asselin: gotsha | 15:24 |
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| asselin | because image-builds are done on the nodepool vm itself | 15:24 |
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| hodos|2 | asselin: do you have a link on how to use it? | 15:26 |
| asselin | one sec | 15:26 |
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| asselin | #link http://ci.openstack.org/nodepool/configuration.html#diskimages | 15:26 |
| asselin | #link https://github.com/openstack-infra/project-config/tree/master/nodepool/elements | 15:27 |
| asselin | hodos|2, you can try to reuse the infra nodepool dib 'elements' ^^ | 15:27 |
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| hodos|2 | asselin: will read on, thank you | 15:29 |
| anteaya | hodos|2 asselin thank you | 15:29 |
| anteaya | shall we move on? | 15:29 |
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| anteaya | does anyone have anything else they would like to discuss today? | 15:29 |
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| anteaya | everybody's happy? | 15:30 |
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| anteaya | nothing left to discuss today? | 15:30 |
| anteaya | if so I won't keep you | 15:31 |
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| anteaya | thanks everyone for your participation in today's meeting | 15:31 |
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| asselin | thanks anteaya | 15:31 |
| anteaya | please stay in contact with asselin regarding how to help test or review the puppet work | 15:31 |
| anteaya | enjoy the rest of your day/evening | 15:32 |
| anteaya | see you next week | 15:32 |
| anteaya | #endmeeting | 15:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 27 15:32:12 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-04-27-15.00.html | 15:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-04-27-15.00.txt | 15:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-04-27-15.00.log.html | 15:32 |
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| dhellmann | #startmeeting oslo | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 27 16:01:16 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dhellmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'oslo' | 16:01 |
| amrith | ./ | 16:01 |
| rpodolyaka1 | o/ | 16:01 |
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| dhellmann | our agenda is out of date | 16:01 |
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| dhellmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Oslo | 16:01 |
| dhellmann | courtesy ping for jd__, dims, bnemec, flaper87, harlowja, viktors, rpodolyaka, zzzeek, sileht, kgiusti, dansmith, sdague | 16:01 |
| dhellmann | courtesy ping for redrobot, jungleboyj, zhiyan, therve, amotoki, GheRivero, bknudson, ihrachyshka, jogo, dougwig, sreshetnyak, amrith | 16:01 |
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| redrobot | o/ | 16:02 |
| bknudson | hi | 16:02 |
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| amrith | .! | 16:02 |
| dims | o/ | 16:02 |
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| dims | Aloha everyone :) | 16:02 |
| dhellmann | FTR, I'll hand over the chair to dims next week, but I figured I'd help out since he was away last week | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | o/ | 16:02 |
| dims | thanks! dhellmann | 16:03 |
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| bnemec | o/ | 16:03 |
| dims | harlowja_away: thanks for running the show last weeek | 16:03 |
| sileht | o/ | 16:04 |
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| bnemec | Took awhile to load this channel. There was a lot of unviewed backlog. :-) | 16:04 |
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| dhellmann | heh | 16:04 |
| dhellmann | ok, let's get started | 16:04 |
| dhellmann | #topic Review action items from previous meeting | 16:04 |
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| jogo | o/ | 16:04 |
| dhellmann | thanks again to harlowja_away for running the meeting last week | 16:04 |
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| dhellmann | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-04-20-16.00.log.html | 16:04 |
| dhellmann | #info harlowja_at_home poke dhellmann with stick about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/163163/ | 16:05 |
| dhellmann | he did, and I added a comment | 16:05 |
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| dims | dhellmann: are we using the right channel? (wiki still says #openstack-meeting-alt) | 16:05 |
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| harlowja_at_home | :) | 16:05 |
| harlowja_at_home | me thinks wrong channel, lol | 16:05 |
| dhellmann | a couple of weeks back we had said we would approve some of the specs | 16:05 |
| dims | oh well :) | 16:05 |
| harlowja_at_home | lol | 16:05 |
| dhellmann | dims: ugh | 16:05 |
| dhellmann | ok, let's move | 16:05 |
| dhellmann | #endmeeting | 16:06 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 27 16:06:01 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:06 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-04-27-16.01.html | 16:06 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-04-27-16.01.txt | 16:06 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/oslo/2015/oslo.2015-04-27-16.01.log.html | 16:06 |
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| sarob | helo helo | 17:02 |
| rluethi | hey | 17:02 |
| sarob | ready for training stuff? | 17:02 |
| matjazp | hey | 17:02 |
| rluethi | sort of | 17:02 |
| sarob | #startmeeting training-guides | 17:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 27 17:02:32 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' | 17:02 |
| sarob | agenda | 17:02 |
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| sarob | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/training-guides | 17:03 |
| sarob | sorry i have been out | 17:03 |
| sarob | getting stuff at the new job organized | 17:03 |
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| sarob | matjazp patches got it | 17:04 |
| sarob | in that is | 17:04 |
| sarob | the new docs PTL is asking that we figure out our specs | 17:05 |
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| sarob | i got us a design session slot | 17:05 |
| matjazp | sarob: hmm.. I think I won't be able to make it to the Summit | 17:06 |
| sarob | :( | 17:06 |
| sarob | dbite is going to make it | 17:06 |
| matjazp | sarob: some money issues . about travel expenses. | 17:07 |
| sarob | monday 4:40-5:20pm room 224 | 17:07 |
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| sarob | holds 40 people | 17:07 |
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| sarob | the ambassadors mtg is right after our | 17:07 |
| sarob | ours | 17:07 |
| sarob | thought that would make sense | 17:07 |
| dguitarbite | hello | 17:07 |
| rluethi | hi | 17:08 |
| sarob | dguitarbite hey | 17:08 |
| sarob | i got us a room for a design session at the summit monday afternoon | 17:08 |
| sarob | right before the ambassadors meeting | 17:08 |
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| sarob | i have started working with the foundation | 17:09 |
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| sayalilunkad | hello | 17:09 |
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| sarob | on the testing certification standards stuff | 17:09 |
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| sarob | sayalilunkad: hey | 17:09 |
| dguitarbite | sayalilunkad: hello | 17:09 |
| dguitarbite | sarob: that would be awesome to have certification standards! | 17:09 |
| rluethi | hi sayalilunkad | 17:10 |
| sarob | dguitarbite: it is going to be a long process | 17:10 |
| matjazp | sarob: did you discussed things about overlapping of testing in the training guides and the foundatoin's certification? | 17:10 |
| sarob | matjazp: the theory of it yes | 17:11 |
| sarob | matjazp: the linux foundation has been | 17:12 |
| matjazp | sarob: sorry I couldnt attend.. overlapping of my schedule :( | 17:12 |
| sarob | matjazp: contracted by the openstack foundation | 17:12 |
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| sarob | matjazp: no problem, i have temporarily suspended the testing standards meetings | 17:13 |
| dguitarbite | sarob: I understand that this will be a long process! But Im glad its in progress :) | 17:13 |
| sarob | dguitarbite: yeah, 6 months of putting together the teams, scoping, etc | 17:13 |
| matjazp | sarob: yes, I got your mail on the ML.. but I don't know if we can also use/or contribute/ some questions? | 17:13 |
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| sarob | matjazp: there will def be a time for this team to get invovled with that | 17:14 |
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| sarob | matjazp: it just wont be for a bit | 17:14 |
| sarob | matjazp: as the cert teams get spun up | 17:14 |
| sarob | its going to be very public and process oriented | 17:16 |
| sarob | from experience | 17:16 |
| sarob | it has to be legally defendable | 17:16 |
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| sarob | people have sued over the tests and how they are put together | 17:17 |
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| sarob | sigh | 17:17 |
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| sarob | so whada i miss while i was out the last few weeks? | 17:17 |
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| dguitarbite | someone voluenteers for labs section? | 17:19 |
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| dguitarbite | I gues Sayali you are the best person to speak up as you have done most of the work in the last two weeks | 17:19 |
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| sayalilunkad | sarob: we have added some new features to osbash | 17:20 |
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| sayalilunkad | we have heat added and ceilometer in review | 17:20 |
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| sarob | sweet | 17:21 |
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| sayalilunkad | Also, some nice test scripts are in progress and some races have been fixed too | 17:21 |
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| sarob | how's the publishing automation going? | 17:22 |
| sayalilunkad | dguitarbite: rluethi anything else? | 17:22 |
| rluethi | I think you covered all the important bits. | 17:23 |
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| dguitarbite | Not much from my side either | 17:24 |
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| sarob | did you have the automation bits in your personal repo | 17:25 |
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| dguitarbite | sarob: meaning? | 17:26 |
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| sarob | dguitarbite: so i or stef could help | 17:26 |
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| sarob | cause we wanted to have upstream training slides pub for the pre summit session | 17:27 |
| matjazp | gate check is done, we still need to automate the publishing of slides | 17:27 |
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| matjazp | it is much quicker to review the slide content if we could see the changes in the review | 17:28 |
| sarob | matjazp: html version? | 17:28 |
| sarob | matjazp: not sure i understand | 17:28 |
| matjazp | sarob: we also finished the transition from landslide to the hieroglyph | 17:29 |
| matjazp | sarob: yes, html | 17:29 |
| sarob | matjazp: yeah, i saw that slide past | 17:29 |
| * sarob is punny | 17:29 | |
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| matjazp | we still need to finish associate guide slides | 17:29 |
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| matjazp | we now have a "new" Openstack theme | 17:30 |
| sarob | yeah, i see those hanging over me | 17:30 |
| sarob | css? | 17:30 |
| matjazp | sarob: I will help | 17:30 |
| sarob | yur my hero! | 17:30 |
| matjazp | sarob: theme is ok for now, we need to focus on the content | 17:30 |
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| sarob | okay | 17:31 |
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| matjazp | maybe you guys could also publish slides about how to use labs? | 17:31 |
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| rluethi | matjazp: good idea | 17:32 |
| matjazp | and we could incorporate this directly in our slide material | 17:32 |
| sayalilunkad | we could reuse some of the slides from the workshop ppt | 17:32 |
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| sarob | sayalilunkad: that would be good | 17:32 |
| matjazp | sayalilunkad: sure | 17:32 |
| sayalilunkad | labs are covered in those | 17:32 |
| sayalilunkad | so is devstack and sandbox. | 17:33 |
| sarob | sayalilunkad: did you share that ppt from the workshop? | 17:33 |
| sayalilunkad | yes I shared the links | 17:34 |
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| matjazp | hmm... devstack.. I guess we will have some overlap with upstream training.. | 17:34 |
| sarob | sayalilunkad: okay i will dig out | 17:34 |
| sayalilunkad | sarob: http://blog.sayalilunkad.com/presentations.html | 17:34 |
| sarob | matjazp: yeah, | 17:34 |
| sayalilunkad | sarob: you can find them here | 17:34 |
| sarob | sayalilunkad: ah nice | 17:34 |
| sarob | sayalilunkad: so organized | 17:34 |
| sayalilunkad | sarob: :) | 17:35 |
| sarob | so for the summit if we can clean up the associate guide, publish html slides, | 17:36 |
| sarob | anything more that should get done labs wise before the summit? | 17:36 |
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| sarob | want to create the how to slides for the summit? | 17:36 |
| rluethi | sarob: all races should be fixed. all other known bugs, too. | 17:36 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: +1 | 17:37 |
| dguitarbite | mostly the labs are stable but some more polishing work | 17:37 |
| matjazp | we should promote labs more... | 17:37 |
| matjazp | you know, as a training tool | 17:37 |
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| rluethi | matjazp: maybe there's a chance in vancouver, for those who go there. | 17:38 |
| sarob | #link https://launchpad.net/openstack-training-guides/+milestone/kilo-3 | 17:38 |
| matjazp | rluethi: yes, my thoughts exactly | 17:38 |
| sayalilunkad | a demo at the summit would be good | 17:38 |
| sarob | do we have any confirmed labs bugs right now? | 17:38 |
| matjazp | just out of curiosity, are you still working on the kvm port? | 17:39 |
| rluethi | sarob: a few races are still open, I believe. | 17:39 |
| sayalilunkad | yes the colorizer bug is there | 17:39 |
| rluethi | sayalilunkad: that's a wishlist item. | 17:39 |
| sayalilunkad | rluethi: true. | 17:39 |
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| rluethi | matjazp: on my side, the KVM thing has stopped at the stage of PoC (lack of time). | 17:39 |
| sayalilunkad | matjazp: the kvm port is done but its on our personal repo and needs a lot of code refactoring. but it works. | 17:40 |
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| dguitarbite | matjazp: from my side the KVM python port for Ubuntu works | 17:40 |
| rluethi | matjazp: It would take at least a few days work to get it in a useable state. | 17:40 |
| matjazp | rluethi: did you encounter any blockers? or it just need polishing? | 17:40 |
| dguitarbite | CentOS and OpenSUSE base is installed | 17:40 |
| matjazp | why dont you guys publish a dev branch somewhere? | 17:41 |
| sarob | i have a akanda training session coming up in late may | 17:41 |
| rluethi | matjazp: no blockers. but it needs more than just polishing. I just hacked the virtualbox glue code to do KVM instead. | 17:41 |
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| sarob | i was thinking we could use some of osbash | 17:41 |
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| sayalilunkad | sarob: that would be awesome | 17:42 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: can we agree to have the KVM version in Python? I have worked with sayalilunkad and have the initial POC deploying Ubuntu as required! We get more features like internet connectivity to the VMs | 17:42 |
| matjazp | rluethi: that's a perfectly valid PoC. the code needs to get out there so we can all start playing with it | 17:42 |
| rluethi | matjazp: dguitarbite and sayalilunkad have github repos. my code is too much of an embarrassement to be published. | 17:42 |
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| dguitarbite | matjazp: https://github.com/sayalilunkad/libvirtPOC | 17:43 |
| dguitarbite | check the Ubuntu version, it works :) | 17:43 |
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| sarob | dguitarbite: so merge it in training repo | 17:44 |
| dguitarbite | sarob: I wish it were that simple :| | 17:44 |
| sayalilunkad | sarob: it needs code refactoring. | 17:44 |
| sarob | dguitarbite: we just support ubuntu with spaghetti code for now | 17:44 |
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| dguitarbite | sarob: meanwhile osbash is awesome! | 17:45 |
| dguitarbite | we do not need to make haste here | 17:45 |
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| sarob | dguitarbite: okey dokey | 17:45 |
| sarob | dguitarbite: im hasty | 17:45 |
| dguitarbite | sarob: but it is on the way :) | 17:45 |
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| sarob | so lets discuss what we want to get done over the next few weeks over the ML | 17:48 |
| sarob | im not sure im sure | 17:48 |
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| sarob | what we all have time for and feel needs to get done | 17:48 |
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| sayalilunkad | I am not keeping too well since the past week, so I cannot commit much till next week. | 17:48 |
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| sayalilunkad | But I had taken up the task for the css and I'm afraid with my state it might be a bit delayed unless someone wants to take over. | 17:50 |
| sarob | sayalilunkad: understood | 17:50 |
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| matjazp | sayalilunkad: it's not so important to do css for now | 17:50 |
| sarob | prioritzing patching in flight, bp, bugs and assigning them to kilo-m3 as the summit target | 17:51 |
| sayalilunkad | matjazp: ok, but not even the openstack logo? | 17:51 |
| sarob | seems like a plan | 17:51 |
| sarob | then we branch kilo sometime post summit | 17:51 |
| matjazp | sayalilunkad: sure.. we have title slides and colors for now.. logo is next but is not thiat crucial | 17:52 |
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| matjazp | sayalilunkad: we need to focus on the content | 17:52 |
| sayalilunkad | matjazp: alright that would be good. | 17:52 |
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| sarob | so over the ML lets get down to the minimum for km3 | 17:53 |
| sarob | sounds like a plan? | 17:53 |
| rluethi | sure | 17:53 |
| matjazp | sayalilunkad: I still like Google's theme2, but there are some bugs in the Heiroglyph.. will be patched in v0.8 iirc | 17:53 |
| matjazp | theme2= slides2 | 17:53 |
| sayalilunkad | matjazp: ok, theme2 hasn't been applied yet right? | 17:55 |
| matjazp | I have a patch for enabling new theme for upstream content in the pipeline... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177780/, I think it's good enough for the Vancouver. If not, we can still update it. | 17:55 |
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| matjazp | sayalilunkad: no, I played with it and it has few annoying bugs | 17:56 |
| sayalilunkad | matjazp: ah. I will check it out. | 17:56 |
| matjazp | it is getting fixed upstream (Hieroglyph) | 17:56 |
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| sayalilunkad | matjazp: the theme is being fixed? | 17:58 |
| matjazp | sayalilunkad: yes, see https://github.com/nyergler/hieroglyph/milestones/0.8 | 17:59 |
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| sayalilunkad | matjazp: oh upstream there. I misunderstood it for upstream training :/ | 17:59 |
| * sayalilunkad feels slow | 17:59 | |
| rluethi | closing time. | 17:59 |
| sarob | yup | 18:00 |
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| matjazp | bye | 18:00 |
| sarob | ill ping yall on the ml | 18:00 |
| rluethi | k | 18:00 |
| sayalilunkad | bye | 18:00 |
| sarob | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 27 18:00:28 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-04-27-17.02.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-04-27-17.02.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-04-27-17.02.log.html | 18:00 |
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| sdake | #startmeeting kolla | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 27 20:01:33 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sdake. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'kolla' | 20:01 |
| sdake | #topic rollcall | 20:01 |
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| daneyon | hey | 20:01 |
| rhallisey | hello | 20:01 |
| docaedo | hi | 20:02 |
| sdake | o/ folks | 20:02 |
| jpeeler | hey | 20:02 |
| sdake | #topic meeting time change | 20:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "meeting time change (Meeting topic: kolla)" | 20:02 | |
| sdake | we have many more contributors from apac | 20:02 |
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| sdake | but unfortunately they can't attend our irc weekly meeting because its like 4am their time | 20:03 |
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| sdake | I would like to alternate meeting times between 1600 utc and 2300 utc | 20:03 |
| harmw | yea, well 10pm isn't all that funny either | 20:03 |
| harmw | :p | 20:03 |
| sdake | this should allow ust o increase our development velocity | 20:04 |
| harmw | anyway, sdake good point | 20:04 |
| sdake | thoughts concerns etc? | 20:04 |
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| sdake | mstoly looking for feedback from the core team here :) | 20:04 |
| rhallisey | I'd vote 1600 | 20:04 |
| harmw | who is the core team anyway :) | 20:05 |
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| sdake | we need to alternate to hit all parts of the world | 20:05 |
| rhallisey | well alternating can make it harder to follow | 20:05 |
| sdake | calendar should solve that problem easily | 20:05 |
| daneyon | makes sense to alternate | 20:05 |
| sdake | can update channel topic with next meeting scheduled time as well | 20:05 |
| rhallisey | ya I'll just have to make a reminder | 20:05 |
| sdake | ok here is what i'm going to do | 20:06 |
| sdake | I'll send a doodle poll to openstack mailing list | 20:06 |
| sdake | with some times | 20:06 |
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| daneyon | sounds good | 20:06 |
| sdake | mon-wed 1400-1700utc and 2200-2400utc | 20:06 |
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| sdake | please vote on which ones you can make | 20:06 |
| sdake | and i'll go with critical mass | 20:06 |
| jpeeler | alternating is fine, just may not make the later time if the examples given above are decided on | 20:07 |
| sdake | any objections? | 20:07 |
| sdake | jpeler what is the latest you think you can make? | 20:07 |
| sdake | and rhallisey since you guys are on the east coast | 20:07 |
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| jpeeler | 22:00 UTC, but don't schedule anything around just me! | 20:08 |
| rhallisey | jpeeler, agreed | 20:08 |
| rhallisey | aroudn~22 | 20:08 |
| sdake | well i'd like the current core at the meetings if possible | 20:08 |
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| sdake | ok i'll set 2200 as the end time | 20:08 |
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| sdake | rather the later time | 20:08 |
| sdake | altnerating | 20:08 |
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| sdake | #topic kilo branching | 20:09 |
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| sdake | so there is a problem with kilo branching | 20:09 |
| sdake | which is why we are not yet branched | 20:09 |
| sdake | I'd ask thatfolks not +2 / +a changes until the branch finishes | 20:09 |
| sdake | hopefully today/tomorrow | 20:09 |
| sdake | there are a couple feature exceptions I'd like people to consider though | 20:09 |
| sdake | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177681/ | 20:10 |
| sdake | to fix the kilo branching, I need to change project-config | 20:10 |
| sdake | still sorting out the chnage, but there is a turnaround on that change of 1-2 days | 20:10 |
| sdake | can folks either -1 or +2 that change | 20:11 |
| sdake | keeping in mind I know its not perfect | 20:11 |
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| sdake | and we can address perfection in master ;) | 20:11 |
| daneyon | ok | 20:11 |
| sdake | one more change | 20:12 |
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| sdake | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177684/ | 20:12 |
| sdake | one more change | 20:13 |
| sdake | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/170306/ | 20:13 |
| sdake | can we spend 2-3 minutes now reviewing, and once you have reviweed with either -1, +2, please respond in channel so we can proceed | 20:14 |
| daneyon | reviewed and +2's them | 20:15 |
| sdake | make sure not to just rubber stamp | 20:16 |
| sdake | but actually look at the changes toop lz :0 | 20:16 |
| sdake | ;) I mean | 20:16 |
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| harmw | so the current goals is to support both nova-network and neutron? | 20:17 |
| rhallisey | sdake, what are you trying to do with the demo | 20:17 |
| jpeeler | why is cirros being downloaded and loaded into glance in a network config script? | 20:17 |
| jpeeler | maybe not worth refactoring at the current time | 20:18 |
| sdake | jpeeler it is really a misnomer, it should be called "init-runonce" or something | 20:18 |
| harmw | ^^ agreed | 20:18 |
| sdake | but the reason is because it can act atomically | 20:18 |
| jtriley | sdake: compose/README.md should probably be updated as to point to the new network setup script as well, no? | 20:18 |
| sdake | it clearly needs a refactor | 20:18 |
| sdake | jtriely cool -1 and add a comment | 20:18 |
| sdake | in my review I noticed there is a "cho" where it should be "echo" | 20:19 |
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| sdake | so I -1 and set workflow to -1 | 20:19 |
| sdake | the demo launches 20 virtual machines with neutron ports and neutron floating ips | 20:19 |
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| sdake | ok after meeting I will udpate any review comments and would appreciate fast reviews so master is in suitable shape for branching | 20:20 |
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| sdake | #topic continuous integration | 20:20 |
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| sdake | jpeeler has been working on this a bit, have any status update? | 20:20 |
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| jpeeler | sdake: some progress has been made, can now call tox to setup docker properly | 20:21 |
| sdake | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/168598/ | 20:21 |
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| sdake | I dont think we want tox setting up docker | 20:21 |
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| sdake | I think we want a script in tests which sets up the environment,and tox should call that script | 20:22 |
| sdake | there is another guy from apac - his name escapes me atm | 20:22 |
| sdake | but he is also working on this problem jpeeler | 20:22 |
| jpeeler | i don't see the difference from what i said | 20:22 |
| sdake | jpeeler do you ahve a review for early looking? | 20:22 |
| jpeeler | no, but i will soon. it's not really based off your review. couldn't get that going at all | 20:22 |
| sdake | it sure would be nice to go into our demo at summit (#6 on the most popular talks yay:) saying we have some basic functional testing | 20:23 |
| jpeeler | also, kolla isn't a python project. so i've tried to avoid as much of that as i could | 20:23 |
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| sdake | I like how testr works | 20:23 |
| jpeeler | (while still using all the python test runner stuff) | 20:23 |
| sdake | it would be nice if we could write the test cases in python | 20:23 |
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| jpeeler | yes, that's the plan | 20:23 |
| sdake | nice | 20:24 |
| sdake | ok any qs for jpeeler? | 20:25 |
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| sdake | jpeeler if you can get a review up soon that would be great - so poeple can bikeshed it :) | 20:25 |
| sdake | just mark workflow to -1 | 20:25 |
| jpeeler | yeah i know. it's just that i haven't had time to do much | 20:25 |
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| sdake | jpeeler I intend to continue work on my patch so it would be nice if we could integrate efforts | 20:26 |
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| jpeeler | sdake: no idea how you could run that patch. got all kinds of errors | 20:26 |
| sdake | ya its a work in progress for sure | 20:26 |
| sdake | I can integrate into your wip patch | 20:26 |
| sdake | lets just get the ideas in the review queue because atm there are 3 people interested in working on it | 20:27 |
| jpeeler | sdake: what i'm hearing is, hurry up. so i hear ya | 20:27 |
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| sdake | and I want image create/start working prior to the 10th of may :) | 20:27 |
| sdake | rather image create --release without push and kolla start | 20:27 |
| sdake | that would be a good first step in the gate | 20:27 |
| sdake | if we could set that as our goal for may 10th that would rock :) | 20:28 |
| sdake | we have 3 people wanting to tackle the problem so lets get all our ideas in the review queue | 20:28 |
| sdake | jpeeler wfu? | 20:28 |
| jpeeler | yeah | 20:28 |
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| sdake | nice :) | 20:28 |
| sdake | #topic kolla final milestone blueprint review | 20:29 |
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| daneyon | i have been working on #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/cinder-container | 20:29 |
| sdake | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/milestone-4 | 20:29 |
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| daneyon | trying to get cinder-volume to work | 20:29 |
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| rhallisey | daneyon, same | 20:30 |
| sdake | nice - I htink that is probably goingto be master material | 20:30 |
| sdake | with a target of liberty 1 | 20:30 |
| sdake | so i'll change that now | 20:30 |
| daneyon | i made some progress, able to create a volume but can not attach to a nova instance | 20:30 |
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| daneyon | rhallisey, any progress on your end? | 20:30 |
| rhallisey | daneyon, I went though the docs again and I saw that I was missing a few things | 20:30 |
| rhallisey | I added them in, but still not working | 20:31 |
| rhallisey | I need to ask a cinder person | 20:31 |
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| sdake | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/compute-operation-neutron | 20:31 |
| rhallisey | to try and getting a better understanding of what's going on | 20:31 |
| sdake | I think this is done right daneyon? | 20:31 |
| daneyon | rhallisey, if you have time i would like to setup a webex and you can see what i'm seeing. | 20:31 |
| rhallisey | daneyon, ya that would be great | 20:31 |
| daneyon | i don;t think it's a cinder.conf config issue | 20:31 |
| sdake | rhallisey please update the review with your new config items | 20:32 |
| daneyon | lets coordinate after this meeting | 20:32 |
| sdake | so everyone is working from same tree :) | 20:32 |
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| rhallisey | ya I have a feeling I'm not mouting all the proper directories | 20:32 |
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| daneyon | sdake https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/compute-operation-neutron is done | 20:32 |
| daneyon | rhallisey we'll talk after the meeting, i don;t think that's the issue either. maybe we can get this done if we combine our brains ;-) | 20:33 |
| sdake | daneyon mark it as such so you get credit in stackalytics pls | 20:33 |
| rhallisey | sounds good | 20:33 |
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| sdake | daneyon this is done right? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/container-set-compute-operation-neutron | 20:34 |
| daneyon | sdake. yes. i just marked as implemented | 20:34 |
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| sdake | marking https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/container-set-storage-operation for liberty | 20:35 |
| sdake | marking https://blueprints.launchpad.net/kolla/+spec/compose-multios for liberty as well | 20:36 |
| daneyon | sdake can you wait till tomorrow to set as Liberty? | 20:36 |
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| daneyon | rhallisey and I may get it working in the next 24 hrs | 20:36 |
| sdake | ok can you changeit back then | 20:36 |
| rhallisey | I think we're close | 20:36 |
| daneyon | I think this is the last issue before cinder is functional | 20:37 |
| daneyon | ya | 20:37 |
| sdake | so major features for milestone #4 are neutron and possibly cinder | 20:37 |
| daneyon | sounds about right | 20:37 |
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| sdake | plus we did a whole lot of refactoring to made the code base tidier | 20:37 |
| sdake | and fixed a slew of bugs :) | 20:37 |
| sdake | next week we will make our announcement release notice | 20:38 |
| sdake | live on irc | 20:38 |
| daneyon | ok | 20:38 |
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| sdake | the process is I will branch stable/kilo | 20:38 |
| sdake | I will tag rc1 from stable/kilo master | 20:38 |
| sdake | we will test this week/next make sure we are golden | 20:39 |
| sdake | if rc1 is solid prior to the 10th I'll cut our final release | 20:39 |
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| sdake | if we have updates to fix bugs after the branch, there could be an rc2/rc3 etc | 20:39 |
| sdake | each commit will result in a new rc | 20:39 |
| sdake | make sense to folks? | 20:39 |
| daneyon | will rc1 fixes go directly into stble/kilo branch or get backported from trunk? | 20:39 |
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| sdake | they get backported from trunk | 20:40 |
| daneyon | ok | 20:40 |
| daneyon | sounds good | 20:40 |
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| sdake | #topic improving process goingforward | 20:40 |
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| sdake | we do a whole lot of work | 20:41 |
| sdake | but its really difficult for me to track the work because we are not using implements blueprint and closes bug tags in the git log | 20:41 |
| * rhallisey is guilty of that all the time | 20:41 | |
| jpeeler | i was wondering when that would come up | 20:42 |
| sdake | for liberty I'd like folks to -1 reviews any non-documentation changes that don't have a closes bug or implements blueprint documented | 20:42 |
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| sdake | for documentation changes I don't think we need to document "improving quickstart guide" as the docs are a continual evolution | 20:42 |
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| sdake | since this is a big change for how we operate, I'd like a unanimous vote from the core | 20:42 |
| sdake | +1 is my vote | 20:42 |
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| jpeeler | it's time, +1 | 20:43 |
| rhallisey | +1 | 20:43 |
| rhallisey | it is | 20:43 |
| daneyon | +1 | 20:44 |
| sdake | cool well thats all the cores here | 20:44 |
| sdake | i'll sync up with mandre tonight | 20:44 |
| sdake | but lets assume he will vote +1 and operate under this model | 20:44 |
| sdake | just after liberty dev starts | 20:44 |
| sdake | i.e. may 10th and later | 20:44 |
| sdake | until may 10th proceed as you currently do | 20:44 |
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| sdake | i'd like to point out daneyon does a real nice job of documenting his changes :) | 20:45 |
| sdake | so not everyone is guilty | 20:45 |
| sdake | but I'm guilty as well | 20:45 |
| sdake | the only way it works is if everyone suffers the pain :) | 20:45 |
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| daneyon | sdake thx | 20:45 |
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| sdake | #topic open discussion | 20:45 |
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| sdake | so for folks not staying up until midnight, we have a large contingent of apac folks who look to be devs | 20:46 |
| sdake | so we will likely get more help :) | 20:46 |
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| sdake | yay :) | 20:46 |
| rhallisey | ya I've been talking to some of them | 20:46 |
| daneyon | it would be nice ot somehow tackle sync'ing commits with kollaglue images during the L cycle | 20:46 |
| sdake | daneyon I agree | 20:47 |
| sdake | we may hae to do it out of band, since the ci jobs havea 1 hour limit and push takes 5 hours on my machine/network | 20:47 |
| jpeeler | are people not pushing image changes? | 20:48 |
| daneyon | ok | 20:48 |
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| sdake | jpeeler its more like we want a fresh push per commit | 20:48 |
| daneyon | i am, but their needs to be syncronization | 20:48 |
| sdake | compose-multios will fix alot of the problems we have with overwriting other poeples images/etc | 20:48 |
| daneyon | what if you push to latest before your review is merged and you intro a bug? | 20:48 |
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| daneyon | the image should be built locally and pushed by ci when the assoc patch is merged | 20:49 |
| xarses | I'd like to ask some questions around some of the design principles you guys have (probably in #kolla after this) so I can wrap my head around some things | 20:49 |
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| sdake | xarses we will be there :) | 20:49 |
| daneyon | jpeeler do u see where i'm coming from? | 20:49 |
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| jpeeler | daneyon: yep! just hadn't really thought about it | 20:49 |
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| sdake | the big problem is the gate has a 1 hour timeout | 20:50 |
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| jpeeler | i personally wouldn't love per commit pushes. doesn't each push add a new fs layer to download? | 20:50 |
| sdake | we can setup a vm somewhere which reads the changes and commits them via a docker push | 20:50 |
| sdake | jpeeler we would push with --no-cache | 20:51 |
| sdake | which eliminates that problem | 20:51 |
| jpeeler | ah didn't know about that, cool | 20:51 |
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| daneyon | what if we pushed to our own registry, then that could help? | 20:51 |
| sdake | you mean setup a registry in openstack-infra? | 20:52 |
| sdake | sounds painful :) | 20:52 |
| daneyon | ya | 20:52 |
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| daneyon | sdake can you help me understand what would be painful? | 20:52 |
| sdake | setting up a new service in openstack-infra - no idea how to do that | 20:53 |
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| sdake | this is a conversation we need to have at summit | 20:53 |
| daneyon | I guess we can explore the diff options in more detail when we get pass Vancouver | 20:53 |
| sdake | pehraps I can get the infra guys to give us a session on the topic | 20:53 |
| jpeeler | we could turn the problem upside down and create a git wrapper to checkout to a certain commit that works with image in the registry | 20:53 |
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| daneyon | sdake not a bad idea | 20:53 |
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| sdake | another simpler option is to allow us a post-commit hook to push via infra | 20:54 |
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| sdake | not sure if that is possible | 20:54 |
| sdake | but they have a "push tarballs" job | 20:54 |
| sdake | maybe that could be a psuh images job | 20:54 |
| xarses | daneyon: sdrake, can't you guys use auto-builds from the docker registry? | 20:55 |
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| daneyon | sdkae i was looking at docker-hook to do something like that | 20:55 |
| sdake | sdake, no r in my name :) | 20:55 |
| daneyon | haha | 20:55 |
| sdake | xarses we investigated that early on, problem with that is we would need a repo per dockerfile | 20:55 |
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| sdake | which is like 20 repos | 20:55 |
| daneyon | do u go by sdkae too? | 20:56 |
| sdake | and we would have to keep that in sync | 20:56 |
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| xarses | sdake: the last time i was playing with it, I was able to do a couple in diff branches, but it looked like multiple could be done in the same repo & branch | 20:56 |
| sdake | i think the best course of action is to investigate how post tarballs work | 20:57 |
| sdake | and do the same but with docker | 20:57 |
| sdake | maybe there is no timelimit on that | 20:57 |
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| sdake | let me try to get a session from the infra guys | 20:57 |
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| sdake | see if they have bandwidth for it in their schedule | 20:58 |
| sdake | if not I may be able to steal one of the magnum sessions | 20:58 |
| sdake | since its semi-related to magnum as well | 20:58 |
| sdake | magnum has 12 sessions | 20:58 |
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| sdake | meeting time out thanks guy :) | 20:59 |
| sdake | s | 20:59 |
| sdake | #endmeeting | 20:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 27 20:59:43 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-04-27-20.01.html | 20:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-04-27-20.01.txt | 20:59 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/kolla/2015/kolla.2015-04-27-20.01.log.html | 20:59 |
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| mestery | hi neutron folks! | 20:59 |
| dougwig | o/ | 20:59 |
| hichihara | Hi | 21:00 |
| yamamoto | hi | 21:00 |
| anteaya | o/ | 21:00 |
| banix | Hi | 21:00 |
| yamahata | hello | 21:00 |
| salv-orlando | aloha | 21:00 |
| HenryG | \o | 21:00 |
| rkukura | hi | 21:00 |
| x3k | o/ | 21:00 |
| watanabe_isao | hello | 21:00 |
| tidwellr | hi | 21:00 |
| jckasper | hi | 21:00 |
| johnbelamaric | hi | 21:00 |
| beagles | ohi | 21:00 |
| * salv-orlando HenryG just made a nazi salute | 21:00 | |
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| anteaya | salv-orlando: I thought that was a high five | 21:01 |
| mestery | #startmeeting networking | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 27 21:01:03 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mestery. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:01 |
| kevinbenton | Hi | 21:01 |
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| emagana | jello! | 21:01 |
| mestery | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings Agenda | 21:01 |
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| mestery | By announcing the agenda is lean today and I expect a short meeting, I'll likely doom us all to a full hour, but why not try. ;) | 21:01 |
| mestery | #topic Announcements | 21:01 |
| amotoki | hi | 21:01 |
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| mestery | #info Kilo-RC3 will release later today or tomorrow with 3 changes | 21:01 |
| mestery | The 3 changes are: | 21:01 |
| mestery | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1447883 | 21:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1447883 in neutron kilo "Restrict netmask of CIDR to avoid DHCP resync is not enough" [Critical,Fix committed] | 21:02 |
| mestery | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1441107 | 21:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1441107 in neutron kilo "Missing entry point for haproxy namespace driver" [High,Fix committed] | 21:02 |
| mestery | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1448813 | 21:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1448813 in neutron kilo "radvd running as neutron user in Kilo, attached network dead" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Henry Gessau (gessau) | 21:02 |
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| mestery | Waiting on 1448813 to merge in master so we can get it in stable/kilo, and then we'll cut RC3 | 21:02 |
| mestery | Thanks to all the testing, in particular 1448813 was found by someone testing RC1! | 21:02 |
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| mestery | Once we release RC3, we'll be done with Kilo. | 21:03 |
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| mestery | A few more announcements | 21:03 |
| mestery | #info Reminder: neutron mid-cycles | 21:03 |
| mestery | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/060713.html | 21:03 |
| mestery | I've made some changes to the neutron-drivers team. | 21:03 |
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| Sukhdev | mestery: I added an item to the agenda of the sprint | 21:03 |
| mestery | #link Salvatore and Mark have been swapped out with Maru and Doug on the neutron-drivers team. | 21:03 |
| mestery | Sukhdev: Thank you! | 21:03 |
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| mestery | Yes, please add items to the coding sprints as you see fit. | 21:04 |
| mestery | I've found the last two to be very useful for getting thigns done, and I've heard that feedback from others. | 21:04 |
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| mestery | OK, I'll wait 60 seconds now in case anyone has any other announcements. | 21:04 |
| mestery | Before moving on. | 21:04 |
| Sukhdev | mestery: The item I added has to do with Task Flow | 21:04 |
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| Sukhdev | In case others have interest and expertise in this area | 21:05 |
| mestery | Sukhdev: For ML2, right? | 21:05 |
| Sukhdev | Yes | 21:05 |
| Sukhdev | ML2 Sync and error handling | 21:05 |
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| mestery | OK, lets move on | 21:05 |
| mestery | #topic Bugs | 21:05 |
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| * mestery looks for enikanorov and/or enikanorov2 | 21:05 | |
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| mestery | In lieu of enikanorov and/or enikanorov2, does anyone have any bugs they'd like to bring up for the broader team? | 21:06 |
| mestery | I realize we're in the "quiet" period of the cycle. | 21:06 |
| mestery | I know some of you relish hte peace and quiet :) | 21:07 |
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| salv-orlando | mestery: there's a storm brewing | 21:07 |
| anteaya | salv-orlando: when isn't there | 21:07 |
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| * marun goes to batten down the hatches | 21:07 | |
| * mestery mixes a drink | 21:07 | |
| mestery | :) | 21:07 |
| mestery | OK, lets move on! Maybe this will be a short meeting! | 21:07 |
| mestery | #topic Docs | 21:08 |
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| dougwig | we should talk about naming something. | 21:08 |
| emagana | Hello! | 21:08 |
| * mestery was hoping emagana would be here to give us an update on the Document sprint | 21:08 | |
| mestery | you're here emagana! Great! | 21:08 |
| anteaya | dougwig: I like quiet | 21:08 |
| emagana | Yes! Well, the good news is that we have done a terrific progress on the Networking Guide! | 21:08 |
| emagana | All seven scenarios have content! | 21:08 |
| emagana | most of them already merged! | 21:09 |
| mestery | Nice! | 21:09 |
| emagana | the bad news is that we did not have NEW folks helping during the docs day! | 21:09 |
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| mestery | :( | 21:09 |
| anteaya | emagana: end of cycle is a hard time for new people | 21:09 |
| salv-orlando | a recrutiment failure | 21:09 |
| emagana | we should discuss during the summit how we "ensure" participation on the documentation part!! | 21:09 |
| anteaya | emagana: perhaps a doc sprint in milestone-1? | 21:10 |
| mestery | emagana: ++! | 21:10 |
| kevinbenton | Make atc codes based on docs alone :) | 21:10 |
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| enikanorov2 | mestery: sorry, no update from me this weel | 21:10 |
| enikanorov2 | *week | 21:10 |
| emagana | yes, mestery and salv-orlando our post review indicated that we did not chose the best time for this! | 21:10 |
| mestery | enikanorov2: No worries :) | 21:10 |
| mestery | emagana: anteaya's idea about an earlier sprint may make sense | 21:10 |
| anteaya | emagana: at least you got the practice of running it | 21:10 |
| mestery | anteaya: ++ | 21:10 |
| salv-orlando | emagana: people are not joining because you're already doing 10 people's worth of work in the area | 21:11 |
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| emagana | Absolutely, next time will be better anteaya ;-) | 21:11 |
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| anteaya | large groups need regular patterns | 21:11 |
| anteaya | so whatever pattern you pick do that | 21:11 |
| anteaya | either once per milestone | 21:11 |
| anteaya | or milestone-1 and 2 or whatever | 21:11 |
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| emagana | salv-orlando: Thanks... but it is mostly work done by the Docs Guide! | 21:11 |
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| emagana | However, we STILL need you! | 21:12 |
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| mestery | #info Future doc sprints to be done earlier in the cycle. | 21:12 |
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| emagana | we need people with deployment experience that validate what we are saying on the current docs | 21:12 |
| marun | hopefully the proposal to produce dev docs as we go will ease the way for user docs | 21:12 |
| mestery | Thanks for your continued work here emagana. | 21:12 |
| mestery | marun: That's part of the plan. | 21:12 |
| emagana | ok.. I will update wiki with existing open reviews but again, even what has been merged should eb reviewed! | 21:13 |
| mestery | #info Reviews of content still encouraged. | 21:13 |
| emagana | nothing more from me! | 21:13 |
| mestery | Thanks emagana! | 21:13 |
| mestery | #topic Liberty Design Summit | 21:14 |
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| annegent_ | thanks emagana! | 21:14 |
| mestery | I hope to have a first cut of our summit schedule done by Friday | 21:14 |
| mestery | The etherpad no longer works for me in Firefox it's so full of stuff | 21:14 |
| mestery | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-neutron-summit-topics | 21:14 |
| salv-orlando | If you reject my session can I appeal to somebody? | 21:14 |
| anteaya | mestery: try chromium | 21:14 |
| salv-orlando | like the "board for openstack complains and various queries" | 21:15 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: Yes, me. :P | 21:15 |
| mestery | anteaya: :) | 21:15 |
| salv-orlando | mestery: we should totally have a complaints department | 21:15 |
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| mestery | I think most people know how these design summit's work, and how they are supposed to work. | 21:15 |
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| mestery | I'm leaning to run this one like the latter rather than the former. | 21:15 |
| anteaya | mestery: I have been having etherpad grief with firefox | 21:15 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: If we do, I nominate armax to lead it. | 21:15 |
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| mestery | So, stay tuned for our schedule. | 21:16 |
| anteaya | I will operate the arguments table right beside armax's table | 21:16 |
| salv-orlando | mestery: pretty sure armax will be in jail for GBH in a few weeks | 21:16 |
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| mestery | lol | 21:16 |
| sc68cal | arm wrestle for spec acceptance at the neutron pod | 21:17 |
| armax | I am not sure if people are serious but I am starting to worry | 21:17 |
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| mestery | salv-orlando: As long as his review stats remain high, to me it doesn't matter from where armax works :) | 21:17 |
| cbouch | anteaya: trying clearing your cache. I too had recent issues with etherpad. | 21:17 |
| dougwig | gbh? | 21:17 |
| anteaya | sc68cal: ha ha ha | 21:17 |
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| anteaya | cbouch: thanks | 21:17 |
| mestery | OK lets move on | 21:18 |
| mestery | I have one more topic before Open Discussion today | 21:18 |
| mestery | #topic New Feature Request Process for Liberty | 21:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "New Feature Request Process for Liberty (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:18 | |
| mestery | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177342/ | 21:18 |
| mestery | That review proposes a new way to get features into neutron rather than neutron-specs | 21:18 |
| salv-orlando | dougwig: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grievous_bodily_harm (sorry I forgot some things apply only to one side of the atlantic_ | 21:18 |
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| mestery | I encourage people to review it | 21:18 |
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| dougwig | mestery isn't happy until gerrit is on fire. | 21:19 |
| mestery | Thanks to those who have already reviewed (marun, blogan, dougwig, rossella_s, sc68cal, etc.) | 21:19 |
| mestery | amuller as well | 21:19 |
| mestery | The process we have in place wasn't working in many regards, thus I'm changing it so we get out of the way | 21:19 |
| armax | mestery: I read it but not voted, does that count? | 21:19 |
| mestery | No deadlines | 21:19 |
| mestery | Streamlined | 21:19 |
| armax | :) | 21:19 |
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| anteaya | mestery: I'll ping you next time gerrit is stuck on threads it is exciting | 21:19 |
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| mestery | armax: Now you're just teasing me ;) | 21:19 |
| * marun stands by to put the specs repo to the torch | 21:20 | |
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| salv-orlando | mestery: I am ok with slimming the process. The only open question is what happens to the public face of neutron-specs which is published on specs.openstack.org | 21:20 |
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| mestery | marun: I get to submit that gerrit review | 21:20 |
| * marun stands by to hand mestery the torch | 21:20 | |
| salv-orlando | I am ok with just saying we won't publish specs anymore btw | 21:21 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: Yes, I saw your comment. I think it will remain for those specs pre-Liberty. The ones approved for Liberty I will migrate just to LP. | 21:21 |
| dougwig | i almost want to -2, just to kill their fun. | 21:21 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: Excellent | 21:21 |
| sc68cal | mestery: Should we move them over into devref? | 21:21 |
| marun | salv-orlando: the design part of specs will be in-tree and published with devref | 21:21 |
| sc68cal | mestery: at some point in the future? | 21:21 |
| mestery | sc68cal: Not in their current forms, but in some form, yes. | 21:21 |
| sc68cal | mestery: one thing to note, if we stop using specs, that means we need to move the API docs too, since docs team have been moving things out of api-site | 21:22 |
| marun | sc68cal: they are dead | 21:22 |
| marun | specs repo is a graveyard | 21:22 |
| mestery | sc68cal: Let me follow up with you on that. | 21:23 |
| marun | we need docs, but ones that are current and maintained with what's in-tree | 21:23 |
| sc68cal | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1438707 | 21:23 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1438707 in neutron "Security Group API is undocumented in neutron-specs" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 21:23 |
| annegent_ | there's specs, and API Reference | 21:23 |
| salv-orlando | sc68cal: something fishy happened there with API docs which was moved to WADLs | 21:23 |
| salv-orlando | they're just not rendered anymore | 21:24 |
| mestery | salv-orlando: I think that's the problem. | 21:24 |
| annegent_ | salv-orlando: ah | 21:24 |
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| annegent_ | sc68cal: we are not moving things out of api-site, what makes you think that? | 21:24 |
| sc68cal | annegent_: I think because I saw the extra_route API extension get deleted in api-site, but then rendered over in specs.openstack.org | 21:25 |
| * sc68cal digs up mailing list post | 21:25 | |
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| mestery | Why are API docs rendered to specs.openstack.org? | 21:25 |
| mestery | I see them at the bottom there when I got to specs.openstack.org. | 21:26 |
| annegent_ | mestery: the narrative went there | 21:26 |
| mestery | annegent_: Ack | 21:26 |
| sc68cal | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2015-March/006156.html | 21:26 |
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| HenryG | Extra routes (and all extensions) are here: http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2-ext.html | 21:27 |
| mestery | OK, I encourage folks to review the new Feature Request process | 21:27 |
| mestery | In the review I linked above. | 21:27 |
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| mestery | I hope to have a more streamlined process for adding features. | 21:28 |
| mestery | #topic Open Discussion | 21:28 |
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| blogan | adn get to 100 comments | 21:28 |
| annegent_ | mestery: API reference is in api-site | 21:28 |
| mestery | blogan: lol | 21:28 |
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| annegent_ | Also, I am working on a spec for API Reference info in Liberty and I'd love input: https://review.openstack.org/177934 | 21:28 |
| mestery | #link https://review.openstack.org/177934 | 21:28 |
| sc68cal | HenryG: I think someone re-added it back after I raised it on the ml | 21:28 |
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| HenryG | sc68cal: yes, me :) | 21:29 |
| sc68cal | HenryG: :) | 21:29 |
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| emagana | I will review it annegent_ | 21:29 |
| mestery | I added myself as well annegent_, I'll take a peek, thanks! | 21:30 |
| pritesh | not meeting item per se, but i was trying to add documentation for extension stuff, don't see any other extension api's listed on http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-networking-v2-ext.html, so not sure where it should go, any one any ideas? | 21:30 |
| * anteaya pictures anne standing in a doorway partly entering a room but not quite | 21:31 | |
| mestery | pritesh: Very relevant I think to the discussion HenryG and sc68cal just had :) | 21:31 |
| salv-orlando | is this were I start the argument that extensions should not be considered anymore neutron APIs? | 21:31 |
| * mestery rushes to close the meeting | 21:31 | |
| pritesh | mestery: yep sorry missed that. | 21:31 |
| marun | are we solving that in liberty? | 21:31 |
| salv-orlando | ahahahahaha | 21:31 |
| marun | v3? | 21:32 |
| mestery | pecan! | 21:32 |
| salv-orlando | that was an evil laugh | 21:32 |
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| dougwig | salv-orlando: maybe we can just rename extensions to "api-maintainers" | 21:32 |
| HenryG | I believe pritesh is talking about documenting new extensions for Kilo. | 21:32 |
| kevinbenton | how does pecan solve the extensions issue? | 21:32 |
| * mestery and also blogan | 21:32 | |
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| mestery | kevinbenton: I jest, why so serious? | 21:32 |
| mestery | OK, I think we'll wrap things up. | 21:32 |
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| marun | seriously, are we talking about this at summit? | 21:32 |
| salv-orlando | dougwig: whatever as long as API mainteinance is given to the "bike shedding" sub team and I lead it | 21:32 |
| marun | if that's not near the top of the list... | 21:32 |
| kevinbenton | marun: yes, in the nuts and legumes session | 21:32 |
| mestery | marun: No, it's on salv-orlando gerrit review | 21:32 |
| marun | oy | 21:33 |
| * marun goes to read | 21:33 | |
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| mestery | marun: salv-orlando doesn't want a summit session for this unless I'm mistaken | 21:33 |
| HenryG | pritesh: can you get in touch with annegent_ for the docs? | 21:33 |
| mestery | I think we can resolve it on gerrit iwthout the need for a session as well | 21:33 |
| dougwig | salv-orlando as the bike-shedding-as-a-service PTL | 21:33 |
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| pritesh | HenryG: sure will do | 21:33 |
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| salv-orlando | mestery: it depends on whether you want to have a thin hope of achieving anything | 21:33 |
| anteaya | +1 for salv-orlando | 21:33 |
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| mestery | salv-orlando: I think we know the answer then | 21:33 |
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| salv-orlando | mestery: right. | 21:34 |
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| mestery | OK, we'll do one more meeting pre-Summit next week | 21:34 |
| anteaya | hey is that the end of the meeting I see? | 21:34 |
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| mestery | Then take a few weeks off exhausting ourselves by arguing in person in Vanvouver. | 21:34 |
| mestery | Thanks folks! | 21:34 |
| mestery | #endmeeting | 21:34 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:34 | |
| mestery | anteaya: Yes! | 21:34 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 27 21:34:33 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-04-27-21.01.html | 21:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-04-27-21.01.txt | 21:34 |
| salv-orlando | adieuuuuu | 21:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-04-27-21.01.log.html | 21:34 |
| Sukhdev | bye | 21:34 |
| yamamoto | bye | 21:34 |
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| hichihara | bye | 21:34 |
| banix | Bye | 21:34 |
| yamahata | bye | 21:34 |
| anteaya | mestery: awesome | 21:34 |
| beagles | ciao | 21:35 |
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| amotoki | bye- | 21:35 |
| blogan | bye | 21:35 |
| sc68cal | think we just got endmeeting'd :) | 21:35 |
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| emagana | bye! | 21:35 |
| watanabe_isao | mestery, I have one thing about the bug of resync. Shall we talk this in team room? | 21:35 |
| mestery | watanabe_isao: Please! | 21:35 |
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| marun | ciao | 21:35 |
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| armax | bye | 21:36 |
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| annegent_ | hey pritesh feel free to go to #openstack-doc for any questions | 21:40 |
| pritesh | annegent_: yep joining there now | 21:40 |
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