| Rockyg | xproject is actually openstack/openstack-spec | 00:00 |
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| barrett | Thanks Rocky | 00:00 |
| Shamail | So let's make a note that our preferred location is openstack-spec? | 00:00 |
| barrett | +1 | 00:01 |
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| barrett | Will include in email | 00:01 |
| sarob_ | +1 | 00:01 |
| Rockyg | There is already a template there for specs. Do we need a modified one? | 00:01 |
| Shamail | Great | 00:01 |
| sarob_ | We would need some new dir | 00:01 |
| Rockyg | or can we live with what the developers have already devises. | 00:01 |
| sarob_ | But that's the place | 00:01 |
| barrett | a new dir would make it easier. How do we get one created? | 00:02 |
| sarob_ | We work with the xproject team to get | 00:02 |
| Rockyg | xproject meeting on tuesday. If we have a name for the dir, then we can ask for it | 00:02 |
| sarob_ | Buy in | 00:02 |
| sarob_ | Then I will create | 00:02 |
| sarob_ | A patch | 00:02 |
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| sarob_ | To update the repo | 00:02 |
| Shamail | Sounds good. | 00:02 |
| Rockyg | xproject hasn't met the past two weeks, so we could probably get an hour IRC with them in their meeting time slot | 00:03 |
| barrett | Who will make the request? | 00:03 |
| Shamail | sarob_: are you up for taking this AI? | 00:03 |
| sarob_ | Yup | 00:03 |
| Shamail | Thanks. | 00:03 |
| * sarob_ accepts the wand | 00:03 | |
| barrett | #action Sarob request a directory from xproject team in Tuesdays' meting | 00:04 |
| barrett | We're almost out of time and still have a couple of items that I think we need to cover before the summit - Like Ops Summit coverage -can people meet again next week? Or sooner? | 00:04 |
| Shamail | I would prefer this week or the week before the summit. | 00:04 |
| Shamail | Next week will be a blur for me personally. :( | 00:04 |
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| barrett | Shamail - bummer again | 00:05 |
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| Shamail | Yeah | 00:05 |
| barrett | How about tomorrow at 10:00 AM Pacific? | 00:05 |
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| Rockyg | works for me | 00:05 |
| sarob_ | I can't | 00:06 |
| Shamail | Works for me. I could also make some time next week work as long as it's afternoon PT. | 00:06 |
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| sarob_ | But I'm not critical | 00:06 |
| sarob_ | For this | 00:06 |
| Rockyg | I even think this room is available | 00:06 |
| barrett | Would be good to have you sarob - is there another time that works? | 00:06 |
| sarob_ | 11am is better | 00:07 |
| Rockyg | Also works and room is still available, I think | 00:07 |
| Shamail | That works for me too | 00:08 |
| sarob_ | Can still use this channel | 00:08 |
| barrett | I can't make 11 | 00:08 |
| barrett | How about Noon? | 00:08 |
| Shamail | I can't make noon, I can make most times after 1:30P PT. | 00:08 |
| sarob_ | I can do that too | 00:08 |
| sarob_ | Earlier like 8am pdt? | 00:09 |
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| * Rockyg shudders | 00:09 | |
| barrett | I'm booked at 8, but could do 7 | 00:09 |
| Shamail | We have a WTE meeting | 00:09 |
| sarob_ | Geez Louise | 00:09 |
| barrett | How about Friday at 9AM Pacific? | 00:09 |
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| sarob_ | 6-8am is bad | 00:10 |
| Shamail | 7-8, 10-12P, and 1:30P+ PT | 00:10 |
| Shamail | Friday noon will work for me | 00:10 |
| Shamail | Err, 9A PT | 00:10 |
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| sarob_ | I can do that | 00:10 |
| Shamail | Rockyg: ? | 00:10 |
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| Rockyg | 9am pdt works for me | 00:11 |
| Shamail | Sweet! | 00:11 |
| sarob_ | Omg | 00:11 |
| sarob_ | Works for me 2 | 00:11 |
| barrett | Friday at 9AM Pacific it is! I'll send an email to the ML and let folks know we'll meet again this week. | 00:11 |
| Rockyg | but, Carol, what about the monitoring meetin? | 00:11 |
| Shamail | Great. | 00:11 |
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| Shamail | I can already tell the doodle for workflow planning is going to be interesting. | 00:11 |
| barrett | Rocky - That's at 8AM | 00:11 |
| sarob_ | Jeez keep up | 00:12 |
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| Rockyg | Ah, right. See, I'm already thinking the way I do at that time of day.... | 00:12 |
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| sarob_ | Ten lashes | 00:13 |
| barrett | LOL | 00:13 |
| Shamail | Are we calling it a wrap for today then? | 00:13 |
| barrett | +1 | 00:13 |
| Shamail | It's 8PM and my stomach is grumbling. | 00:13 |
| barrett | Type with you all on Friday! | 00:13 |
| Shamail | Hah, type to you soon! | 00:13 |
| Rockyg | ttfn! | 00:13 |
| sarob_ | Which channel? | 00:13 |
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| sarob_ | Looks like alt is open | 00:14 |
| Rockyg | #openstack-meeting-alt | 00:14 |
| Shamail | Can you book it? | 00:14 |
| sarob_ | Not really | 00:14 |
| sarob_ | It more of a perm thing | 00:14 |
| Shamail | Ha okay. | 00:14 |
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| sarob_ | It's open | 00:15 |
| Shamail | We can show up and use it. If it's taken then we can just create a new #openstack-product channel. :) | 00:15 |
| Rockyg | ++ | 00:15 |
| Shamail | Cya on Friday! | 00:15 |
| sarob_ | Cheers | 00:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
| openstack | johnthetubaguy: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 14:00 |
| bauzas | arh | 14:00 |
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| jaypipes | o. | 14:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 30 14:00:44 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_work_group/2015/product_work_group.2015-04-29-23.03.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_work_group/2015/product_work_group.2015-04-29-23.03.txt | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_work_group/2015/product_work_group.2015-04-29-23.03.log.html | 14:00 |
| jaypipes | o/ | 14:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 30 14:00:57 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:01 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:01 |
| andreykurilin | hi! | 14:01 |
| jaypipes | o/ | 14:01 |
| mriedem | hi | 14:01 |
| dims | o/ | 14:01 |
| alex_xu | o/ | 14:01 |
| dansmith | o/ | 14:01 |
| bauzas | \o | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | welcome all | 14:01 |
| ndipanov | o/ | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic kilo release status | 14:01 |
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| alaski | 0/ | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | so this is the last time we talk about kilo, probably | 14:01 |
| claudiub | O/ | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | kilo is out, RC3 has become the final release | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Kilo | 14:02 |
| dims | yay | 14:02 |
| edleafe | o/ | 14:02 |
| jaypipes | The Kilo is dead. Long live the Kilo. | 14:02 |
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| bauzas | \o/ | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | while its probably too late really, please do check the release notes for correctness | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: +1 :) | 14:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | we should have had L be lb | 14:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | as in pound | 14:02 |
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| jaypipes | heh | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways | 14:03 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sound you find a bug that takes your breath away | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=kilo-backport-potential | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | we have a tag for that | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | and hopefully the stable team might jump around and help you through that | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, thanks for all your hard work on kilo | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | so… | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic liberty release status | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "liberty release status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:04 | |
| gilliard | \o/ | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | first things, summit sessions | 14:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | we have a nova-drivers meeting and came up with a initial draft of nova summit sessions | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-summit-ideas | 14:05 |
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| johnthetubaguy | now, I guess we need a deadline for session submissions, anyone have a strong preference? | 14:05 |
| mriedem | 5/8? | 14:05 |
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| dansmith | yesterday? | 14:06 |
| sdague | yeh, in the past design summit closed out pretty late | 14:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I was thinking along those lines | 14:06 |
| sdague | the schedule was typically set the week before | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | so, lets say by the next nova-meeting, so May 7? | 14:06 |
| sdague | wfm | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | now there is little space left, but you know, we might find something interesting that needs debating | 14:07 |
| jaypipes | johnthetubaguy: the sooner we get a schedule up, the sooner we can start moving it around as needed | 14:07 |
| bauzas | +1 it would prevent people just coming because session is nice | 14:07 |
| bauzas | or having a buzzword in there | 14:07 |
| jaypipes | NFV! | 14:07 |
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| sgordon | dw they will find you | 14:07 |
| dims | johnthetubaguy: bauzas: only the fishbowl sessions have to have a title in sched.org | 14:07 |
| sgordon | ;p | 14:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: feel free to suggest moves on the current one | 14:07 |
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| jaypipes | johnthetubaguy: ? we have a current shcedule? | 14:07 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: ssssht | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: I should have been clearer, end of that etherpad, its fully drafted out | 14:08 |
| jaypipes | AHHHH | 14:08 |
| jaypipes | got it. sorry, missed that. | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | #info full draft scheduler for all summit sessions can be found at the end of this etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-summit-ideas | 14:08 |
| bauzas | dims: all the nova sessions are fishbowl ones, so... | 14:08 |
| jaypipes | bauzas: don't we have working sessions on friaday? | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | #info deadline for summit session submissions is 7th May 2015 before the next nova-meeting | 14:09 |
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| dansmith | jaypipes: it's unstructured | 14:09 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: like last time | 14:09 |
| sdague | like in paris | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | so, we have an etherpad for that too... | 14:09 |
| jaypipes | dansmith: right. I think that's what dims was referring to. | 14:09 |
| dims | yep | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | #info you can find the unstructured meetup ideas for Friday here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-summit-meetup | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | I might regret making that public | 14:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so early | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | buy hey ho | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | but^ | 14:10 |
| jaypipes | johnthetubaguy: do you have edit rights on that spreadsheet? | 14:10 |
| jaypipes | johnthetubaguy: if so, would be nice to color the nova sessions some nice color. | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: I have edit delegated edits on sched directly, I can't move rooms | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, so apparently thats not possible | 14:11 |
| jaypipes | you calling me an arsehole? | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | for reasons I don't quite understand | 14:11 |
| jaypipes | :P | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | nope, I wanted the colors too | 14:11 |
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| johnthetubaguy | but turns out we need them all the same color, I think ttx knows why, I forget what he told me, sorry! | 14:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | OK, cools | 14:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | any questions on the summit? | 14:12 |
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| jaypipes | looks like we'll all be in room 301 for two days straight. bring yoru sleeping bag... | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | +1 | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | so blueprints | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/liberty | 14:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | we are basically not fafing with milestones, so lets keep looking at the above link instead | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/liberty | 14:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | anyways, spec reviews are under way now | 14:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | lots of stuff already approved and up for review | 14:13 |
| bauzas | nit: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/allocation-ratio-to-resource-tracker has no owner yet, so please add me to it | 14:13 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: ^ | 14:13 |
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| jaypipes | johnthetubaguy: the big one for me is online-schema-changes now that jerdfelt is no longer working on nova.. | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: will it not let me | 14:14 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: if we aren't doing milestones, what does that mean for feature freeze? | 14:14 |
| jaypipes | johnthetubaguy: that really is an important effort. I would be OK having a mirantis engineer pick up that work if cool with others. | 14:14 |
| bauzas | mriedem: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Cycle_Management/Liberty_Tracking | 14:14 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: oslo.db is mostly mirantis guys already right? | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: I am trying to find out about that, lets try sort that out off line, help would be welcome I think | 14:14 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: no, not really... | 14:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: feature freeze is the same, let me get the link | 14:15 |
| jaypipes | johnthetubaguy: sounds good. | 14:15 |
| mriedem | bauzas: that doesn't say anything about freeze | 14:15 |
| mriedem | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule | 14:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, thats the one | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | so the milestones | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | we still release them | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | we track what get released in them | 14:15 |
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| jaypipes | johnthetubaguy: k, so what are you asking of us right now on the blueprints? anything in particular you wanted to get decided or done? | 14:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | we don't try to predict what will be in them | 14:16 |
| bauzas | mriedem: oh, my point was about saying that we're not tracking bps using milestones now IIUC | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: really, any questions with the process is where I was going with this, then we have two blueprints to review | 14:16 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so process, propose your blueprint for the "liberty" series | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | that should bring your bp up into that list | 14:17 |
| jaypipes | one blueprint I don't see on there that I was hoping to see was the "unfuck-the-neutronv2.py module" one from, IIRC, Brent Eagles. | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | if you need a spec, you need to add that | 14:17 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: he has a bunch of specs up for that sort of thing | 14:17 |
| sdague | jaypipes: I will only review code for that blueprint if that's the actual name :) | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: there is a spec for that in review, I think I actually approved that, but its not quite a far ranging in its intitial form | 14:17 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: we had a spec last time around that didn't get approved, IIRC | 14:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, its happening, which is good | 14:17 |
| jaypipes | so am I just missing the blueprint? | 14:17 |
| mriedem | the neutronclient wrapper spec was approved yesterday | 14:18 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: right, it's broken into smaller cleanups | 14:18 |
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| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: looking | 14:18 |
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| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131413/ | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/liberty/approved/wrap-neutronclient.html | 14:19 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: jaypipes: ^ | 14:19 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131413/ | 14:19 |
| mriedem | wrap neutronclient is easy | 14:19 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131413/ is not | 14:19 |
| gilliard | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141129/ | 14:19 |
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| johnthetubaguy | right, thats the other one | 14:19 |
| jaypipes | no blueprints for the nova-neutron-refactor... | 14:19 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: what is that specifically? | 14:19 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I think those three are all part of that | 14:20 |
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| sdague | so.... it seems weird that that spec basically says "the neutron client api is unusable, we'll build you another api" | 14:20 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: refactoring of the neutronv2.py module so people can understand it? | 14:20 |
| sgordon | he has a couple of specs for refactoring as well | 14:20 |
| sgordon | Refactor allocate_for_instance | 14:20 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: that's https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131413/ | 14:20 |
| sgordon | https://review.openstack.org/141129 | 14:20 |
| sgordon | Refactor of the Neutron network adapter | 14:20 |
| sgordon | https://review.openstack.org/131413 | 14:20 |
| neiljerram | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/141129/ references https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-neutron-refactor, but it appears that that BP link doesn't actually exist. | 14:20 |
| * beagles arrives late - with ears burning | 14:20 | |
| jaypipes | mriedem: right. there's no blueprint. | 14:20 |
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| jaypipes | mriedem: I'm not saying there's no spec. I'm saying there's no blueprint :) | 14:20 |
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| jaypipes | beagles: I'm very interested in your nova-neutron-refactor spec. wondering where the blueprint might be :) | 14:21 |
| mriedem | idk | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: yeah, I will try match those up a little, for the merged one, just spotted that | 14:21 |
| mriedem | this is kind of a waste of time imo | 14:21 |
| dansmith | I usually don't create the blueprint until my spec is close :) | 14:21 |
| mriedem | we can find the bp later | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | lets move on | 14:21 |
| jaypipes | whatevs. | 14:21 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: I don't see why this is a waste of time :( | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | jaypipes: agreed its important for liberty | 14:22 |
| mriedem | there are specs | 14:22 |
| beagles | jaypipes, quite likely forgot to create the blueprint thing | 14:22 |
| mriedem | the bp is process | 14:22 |
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| mriedem | -1 the spec review for a bp in lp | 14:22 |
| mriedem | easy | 14:22 |
| mriedem | then we can move on | 14:22 |
| jaypipes | :/ | 14:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | beagles: I guess we are looking forward to the specs being refreshed for liberty for the other neutron refactoring bits | 14:22 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I think folks are keen to start reviewing them | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | which is cool | 14:23 |
| bauzas | since it seems there are many BPs, can we track all of them in some unique place ? | 14:23 |
| beagles | johnthetubaguy, right | 14:23 |
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| jaypipes | bauzas: yes, that's called Launchpad. :P | 14:23 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/131413/ is the big hairy | 14:23 |
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| mriedem | so that needs review | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: we track them too many places really | 14:23 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: nah, speaking of the network stuff | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | lets do that offline | 14:23 |
| jaypipes | k | 14:23 |
| bauzas | jaypipes: but thanks for the pointer, just discovering it :p | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | we have two bps that want to be approved without a spec | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/convert-image-meta-into-nova-object | 14:24 |
| bauzas | anyway, let's move on agreed | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/network-template-routes-injection | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | firstly: | 14:24 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: no eventually | 14:24 |
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| johnthetubaguy | do the need a spec | 14:24 |
| jaypipes | not in my opinion. | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | secondly, do we like them | 14:24 |
| jaypipes | yes. | 14:24 |
| jaypipes | I like both. | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | are they ready to be approved (i mean) | 14:24 |
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| jaypipes | yes, IMO | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | they seem OK at a quick glance | 14:24 |
| ndipanov | first one definitely does not need a spec | 14:25 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/76234 is finally pointing to an approved spec | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | any folks got issues with them? | 14:25 |
| jaypipes | so is instance-tagging BP, IMHO :) | 14:25 |
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| bauzas | but I agree with ndipanov, that's probably even not requiring a spec - or maybe a objects one | 14:25 |
| sdague | weren't we trying to get away from file injection for - https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/network-template-routes-injection ? | 14:25 |
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| jaypipes | sdague: that's not file injection... | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: its using config drive not inject, AFAIK | 14:25 |
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| sdague | oh, ok, no prob | 14:26 |
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| johnthetubaguy | anyways, if you have strong feelings please let me know | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | I will look to approve them tomorrow ish, assuming there are no big issues | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | thanks in advance for you looking | 14:27 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #help please review the two non-spec BPs ASAP if you are worried about them | 14:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Bugs | 14:27 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: hows the gate looking? | 14:27 |
| mriedem | i assume good | 14:27 |
| mriedem | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/gate.html | 14:28 |
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| mriedem | http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/data/uncategorized.html | 14:28 |
| sdague | the boot from volume test seems to be failing more often than previously | 14:28 |
| mriedem | categorization rate is high | 14:28 |
| dansmith | sdague: yeah, noticed that | 14:28 |
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| mriedem | i opened a bug yesterday for some flaky cinder failures, wasn't boot from volume though | 14:28 |
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| johnthetubaguy | do we have a ER for that boot from volume at all? | 14:29 |
| sdague | so the problem is, it's the generic ssh failure | 14:29 |
| mriedem | we have one for the lvm lock | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | assuming it was the same reason it failed each time, which might be a rash assumption | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh… | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | gotcha | 14:29 |
| mriedem | yeah, the new one is ssh generic failure so we can't really fingerprint it reliabely | 14:29 |
| sdague | which we dropped from the signature list, because it's unhelpful | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 14:29 |
| ndipanov | mriedem, lvm lock was that thing in the libvirt driver? | 14:29 |
| dansmith | melwitt found something yesterday, | 14:29 |
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| dansmith | which *could* be related to the ssh thing | 14:30 |
| dansmith | ndipanov: no, not libvirt | 14:30 |
| sdague | dansmith: do tell | 14:30 |
| ndipanov | k | 14:30 |
| sdague | because any new breadcrumbs there would be awesome | 14:30 |
| mriedem | ndipanov: no | 14:30 |
| dansmith | sdague: I thought it was really likely when I first saw it, but now I think it's remote, but it's something | 14:30 |
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| dansmith | sdague: she realized we're not refreshing info cache from the result of a save() like every other object | 14:30 |
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| dansmith | and some neutron folks think that sprinkling refresh calls all over the place makes it go away | 14:30 |
| sdague | oh, that's interesting. Yeh, seems sensible to fix regardless. | 14:31 |
| dansmith | which may just be the timing they're affecting, but this could be a thing | 14:31 |
| dansmith | definitely | 14:31 |
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| sdague | does she have a patch up yet? | 14:31 |
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| dansmith | dunno, this was late yesterday | 14:31 |
| sdague | ok | 14:31 |
| dansmith | I'll look in a bit | 14:31 |
| bauzas | dansmith: you mean https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178942/ ? | 14:31 |
| dansmith | yes | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | any more bug related things? | 14:31 |
| sdague | once I get through with summit prep next week, I'll try to spend some time digging on some of these bugs | 14:31 |
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| johnthetubaguy | how is the trivial patch set list going? | 14:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | I know its on a kilo etherpad | 14:32 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: that's an excellent question | 14:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | but we can keeping using that for now | 14:32 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I think we should open another one for Lib | 14:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | I noticed it was a bit stale last time I checked | 14:32 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: tbh, I think most of us stopped updating that | 14:32 |
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| dansmith | yeah | 14:33 |
| dansmith | burned out quick | 14:33 |
| lxsli | the available bugs dropped to a pretty small list | 14:33 |
| dansmith | but only because we made real progress I think | 14:33 |
| lxsli | and dims was doing such a great job | 14:33 |
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| bauzas | dansmith: agreed, but kicking-off a new etherpad seems a good signal that this is not just stale | 14:33 |
| dansmith | sure | 14:33 |
| lxsli | +1 | 14:33 |
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| jaypipes | ++ | 14:34 |
| gilliard | IDK if etherpad is the best format. | 14:34 |
| sdague | yeh, honestly, I expect everyone is going to need a breather and some recharge leading up to summit here | 14:34 |
| dansmith | sdague: I was going to suggest, | 14:34 |
| lxsli | call it EG nova-trivial-bugs ? | 14:34 |
| lxsli | I liked etherpad | 14:34 |
| bauzas | gilliard: what are you thinking instead ? | 14:34 |
| dansmith | not doing it just yet and letting the bubble reinflate a bit | 14:34 |
| bauzas | gilliard: because etherpad worked fine IMHO | 14:34 |
| dansmith | so that there is another big chunk of things to attack when we do | 14:34 |
| dansmith | because it requires critical mass I think | 14:34 |
| sdague | but I agree it would be good to kick off again during the friday meetup | 14:34 |
| bauzas | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:34 |
| gilliard | spreadsheet eg google docs? We lost a lot of data about what bugs were fixes by that list. | 14:34 |
| gilliard | Unless I missed where it went. | 14:35 |
| bauzas | could we just stop using gdocs for such tiny things ? | 14:35 |
| dansmith | -1 for doing this in a google doc | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:35 |
| bauzas | yeah | 14:35 |
| sdague | gilliard: dims was doing rollup counts | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | so its there should we choose to use it | 14:35 |
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| dims | yep | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | but giving it a rest for now makes a lot of sense | 14:35 |
| gilliard | fair enough. | 14:35 |
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| dims | need to pick up after say liberty milestone 2 | 14:35 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I was thinking during the friday meetup up | 14:36 |
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| johnthetubaguy | but lets talk more about it then | 14:36 |
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| dims | k | 14:36 |
| bauzas | +1 | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic open discussion | 14:36 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so we have no agenda items here | 14:36 |
| dansmith | so I have a thing | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | are we all done? | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: fire away | 14:36 |
| dansmith | This is now good with t-h: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174480/ | 14:36 |
| dansmith | recommend we slam in with extreme prejudice | 14:37 |
| mriedem | done | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: yes, that probably makes sense | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool | 14:37 |
| jaypipes | ++ | 14:37 |
| bauzas | ++ | 14:37 |
| * mriedem wants to get out of 2 meetings at once | 14:37 | |
| johnthetubaguy | so all done? | 14:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | thanks all, talk again soon | 14:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | #endmeeting | 14:38 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 30 14:38:36 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:38 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2015/nova.2015-04-30-14.00.html | 14:38 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2015/nova.2015-04-30-14.00.txt | 14:38 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2015/nova.2015-04-30-14.00.log.html | 14:38 |
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| gordc | #startmeeting ceilometer | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 30 15:00:15 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gordc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:00 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ceilometer' | 15:00 |
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| sileht | \o | 15:00 |
| jasonamyers | o/ | 15:00 |
| llu-laptop | o/ | 15:00 |
| cdent | o/ | 15:00 |
| prad | o/ | 15:00 |
| fabiog | hi | 15:00 |
| eglynn | o/ | 15:00 |
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| gordc | just a heads up before we start. similar to last year. i'll give those who proposed talks a quick elevator pitch to explain their sessions | 15:01 |
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| gordc | so you have x minutes while we run through other topics to type up a blurb (if you feel it necessary) | 15:01 |
| gordc | that said... | 15:01 |
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| gordc | #topic kilo release | 15:02 |
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| idegtiarov | o/ | 15:02 |
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| gordc | i'm currently not tracking any critical bugs | 15:02 |
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| ityaptin | o/ | 15:02 |
| gordc | i believe we are still on track to release today? | 15:02 |
| gordc | eglynn is that true? | 15:02 |
| eglynn | yes kilo-rc2 will be final | 15:02 |
| cdent | ttx has announced | 15:03 |
| prad | i see tweets that its out | 15:03 |
| eglynn | just say "non!" to more RCs ;) | 15:03 |
| * gordc is going to resist twitter | 15:03 | |
| gordc | eglynn: agreed. | 15:03 |
| prad | :) | 15:03 |
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| gordc | so yeah, i guess kilo's done. good job everyone. | 15:04 |
| ildikov | o/ | 15:04 |
| eglynn | here here! :) | 15:04 |
| cdent | go us | 15:04 |
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| gordc | if you do see bugs, tag them for kilo-backport-potential. | 15:04 |
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| gordc | #topic summit ops session | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "summit ops session (Meeting topic: ceilometer)" | 15:04 | |
| gordc | as mentioned in previous meetings, we have our slot set | 15:05 |
| gordc | now we have an etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-ops-ceilometer | 15:05 |
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| gordc | if you have topics you want to discuss with ops put it there ^ | 15:05 |
| llu-laptop | what's YVR? | 15:05 |
| cdent | vancouver airport code | 15:06 |
| llu-laptop | gee, why I didn't remember see this, did I book the wrong flight, checking... :) | 15:06 |
| eglynn | airport code shothand really only works when it's obvious | 15:06 |
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| gordc | yyz in toronto... i don't know why. yul in montreal. | 15:07 |
| fabiog | I guess next time will be NRT | 15:07 |
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| prad | s/YVR/Liberty | 15:08 |
| jd__ | o/ | 15:08 |
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| gordc | basically... i don't know if anyone has questions regarding the session. i guess we've discussed it enough | 15:08 |
| gordc | #topic recurring: ceilometerclient release? | 15:08 |
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| gordc | i made a ceilometerclient 1.0.14 release for kilo on monday... i'm not track anything else. so yeah... yell now for another release of something | 15:09 |
| gordc | no? no. done. | 15:09 |
| gordc | #topic recurring: Gnocchi status | 15:09 |
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| gordc | jd__: sileht: cdent: anything? | 15:10 |
| jd__ | I'm working on adding Alembic support for 1.1 | 15:10 |
| jd__ | and I'm polishing stable/1.0 branch to release 1.0.0rc2 today I hope | 15:10 |
| jd__ | and a final 1.0.0 next week | 15:10 |
| jd__ | I think sileht is doing some testing or something | 15:10 |
| gordc | lol | 15:11 |
| jd__ | he does not talk much but he comes with a lot of bug reports and fixes from time to time :p | 15:11 |
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| prad | i'm looking into moving dispatcher code to ceilo from gnocchi https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178209/ | 15:11 |
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| sileht | jd__, gordc I try to make the swift driver working well in devstack | 15:12 |
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| gordc | prad: do you need to update to pull in jd__'s patch to filter swift metrics? | 15:12 |
| sileht | I think we should move the dispatcher just after the 1.0 have been released, WDYT ? | 15:13 |
| gordc | sileht: cool cool. that'd be good. i'm updating ceilometermiddlware right now | 15:13 |
| prad | gordc, probably i'll check, i'll pulled in sileht's patch on http one recently | 15:13 |
| gordc | sileht: yeah. that might be safer? i assume you guys are still making changes while testing integration | 15:13 |
| sileht | prad, thanks your change looks up2date, I will hold of touching the dispatcher, now :) | 15:13 |
| jd__ | sileht: yep but I think 1.1 is going to be released while Kilo is out so we can't remov the dispatcher yet | 15:13 |
| jd__ | sileht: I expect people to use Kilo + Gnocchi 1.1 if they want | 15:13 |
| prad | :) | 15:13 |
| jd__ | sileht: though with the requirements mess it might not work lol | 15:14 |
| sileht | jd__, I have seen a mail that say they rethink the thing (again) :p | 15:14 |
| jd__ | sileht: -_- | 15:15 |
| jd__ | sileht: anyway it's too late for Kilo | 15:15 |
| sileht | yep | 15:15 |
| jd__ | ceilometer is going to have crap such as oslo.db<1.8 | 15:15 |
| jd__ | and Gnocchi 1.1 oslo.db>=1.8 :D | 15:15 |
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| gordc | jd__: ... that's going to be interesting. | 15:15 |
| sileht | jd__, distro will hate us | 15:16 |
| gordc | jd__: there's imaginary numbers in there that overlap right? | 15:16 |
| prad | packaging update: i submitted gnocchi rpms for fedora review | 15:16 |
| gordc | prad: cool stuff. | 15:17 |
| gordc | did we ever find someone to do deb? | 15:17 |
| eglynn | zigo? | 15:17 |
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| jd__ | gordc: that's crap because Ceilometer Kilo is working with oslo.db 1.8 | 15:18 |
| jd__ | gordc: so the requirement is wrong | 15:18 |
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| jd__ | I talked to zigo about Gnocchi for Debian but not sure what is the status | 15:18 |
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| jd__ | http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/openstack/gnocchi.git/ | 15:19 |
| gordc | jd__: :( i follow that to see how we can get that working. i'll probably be looking at release stuff more going forward. | 15:19 |
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| jd__ | gordc: good luck with that ;) | 15:19 |
| jd__ | as sileht said, it might change | 15:19 |
| eglynn | jd__: if the oslo.db<1.8 requirement is wrong, that's not terrible as the distros don't need to slaveishly follow the upstream requirements.txt (i.e. it's more of a "hint") | 15:19 |
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| gordc | jd__: hopefully it involves 0 effort. | 15:20 |
| eglynn | not ideal either though, obviously | 15:20 |
| jd__ | eglynn: … except that I *think* the file is copied by pbr into dist-package and read at startup or something in some cases such as loading drivers via stevedore | 15:20 |
| sileht | jd__, I confirm | 15:21 |
| * gordc is still hoping for 0 effort/work | 15:21 | |
| jd__ | eglynn: because of the fact pbr is taking the install_requires from requirement.txt which is actually a wrong behaviour we need to change (discussed on openstak-dev recently) | 15:21 |
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| gordc | jd__: i guess we will watch that thread. you have link handy? | 15:22 |
| eglynn | jd__: hmmm, maybe I'm missing some aspect of the packaging workflow ... wouldn't the first time that happened | 15:22 |
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| jd__ | gordc: eglynn http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-April/061282.html | 15:23 |
| gordc | jd__: cool cool | 15:23 |
| gordc | so anything else gnocchi related? | 15:24 |
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| gordc | #topic summit session proposals - VOTING | 15:24 |
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| gordc | here are topics: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1vlEe75uZc5faytpvIMPrQdViOOsRLnfeThk_Rp_lIvI/edit#gid=0 | 15:25 |
| gordc | there's a column for you to put your name if you're interested | 15:25 |
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| gordc | you can still add stuff but yeah, i guess someone might not see it if you add it later | 15:25 |
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| gordc | we'll close voting sometime next week close to meeting and we'll schedule things accordingly. | 15:26 |
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| cdent | what's the difference between interest and a vote? | 15:26 |
| gordc | so open elevator pitch time... if you have something additional to add right now, raise your hand. | 15:26 |
| gordc | cdent: ...i didn't even see the vote part.lol i'm goig to assume votes is just a tally of interested | 15:27 |
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| * cdent gets gordc a wider screen | 15:27 | |
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| eglynn | on the oslo.versionedobjects one ... there are corresponding sessions on the olso track and for many individual projects also | 15:27 |
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| fabiog | gordc: this is my elevator pitch | 15:27 |
| fabiog | Ceilometer should be comprised of a set of components (micro-services) as git repositories. These components should be as independent as possible and have the database technolgy that is best suited for the task and not have to support a matrix of alternatives. Morevoer pipelines for Metric, Events should be completely sepearate as well as their API. So I can deploy a Event only solution (Ceilometer-Collection + Ceilometer | 15:28 |
| cdent | fabiog is your session a lot the same as mine? can we merge, overlap or define the distinction? | 15:28 |
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| gordc | fabiog: ^ was going to say the same. | 15:28 |
| jd__ | I just wrote that cdent, fabiog lol | 15:28 |
| sileht | cdent, fabiog yeah that looks the topic | 15:28 |
| cdent | fabiog: if you look at the linked etherpad from mine you'll see | 15:28 |
| gordc | we might merge the two and you might want ot copresent | 15:28 |
| fabiog | cdent: sure | 15:29 |
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| fabiog | gordc: I am ok with co-present | 15:29 |
| cdent | FISTICUFFS | 15:29 |
| gordc | fabiog: cool cool. if we have time we might just split it across two sessions | 15:29 |
| * cdent is not sure what we'd argue about though. violent agreement | 15:29 | |
| fabiog | gordc: I just want to decouple the role ceilometer plays, like monitoring vs. metering from the fact that the code should be organized differently | 15:29 |
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| ildikov | the alarm/event session proposals seem to be overlapping too | 15:29 |
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| gordc | fabiog: kk. i think that is a shared idea by others | 15:30 |
| gordc | ildikov: yeah, we'll probably be merging quite a bit. | 15:30 |
| fabiog | cdent: are you going to be at the summit? | 15:30 |
| llu-laptop | yeah I see our event alarm proposal are very much alike with Ryota's getting more out of events, | 15:30 |
| llu-laptop | but he beats ours in proposing time | 15:30 |
| llu-laptop | we could merge | 15:30 |
| gordc | llu-laptop: yep. Ryota, will be at summit so you can sync up. | 15:31 |
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| ildikov | gordc: so I think we are quite good with time and proposals to allocate enough for discussions like the componentization/identity one | 15:31 |
| llu-laptop | good to hear that | 15:31 |
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| gordc | ildikov: i think so too | 15:31 |
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| gordc | eglynn: is the oslo.versioned proposal dependent on the other sessions? | 15:31 |
| eglynn | gordc: my main interest is just figuring out what olsoversionedobjects can do for ceilo (if anything) | 15:32 |
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| gordc | eglynn: kk. disclaimer: i didn't read many of the oslo.versioned threads | 15:33 |
| gordc | eglynn: but will be good to look into that | 15:33 |
| gordc | anyone else have a elevator pitch? | 15:33 |
| ildikov | eglynn: gordc: we have a specs for that, right? or at least I think I saw something related | 15:33 |
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| cdent | specs and in progress changes | 15:34 |
| gordc | ildikov: i think it got proposed to all the projects | 15:34 |
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| ildikov | gordc: a-ha, ok, I haven't checked that part | 15:34 |
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| gordc | ildikov: yeah... i don't know how they did it. everyone must really like dansmith. :) | 15:35 |
| ildikov | as for elevator pitch, I think it would be nice to agree on the meter deprecation process that we would like to follow and then cover it with docs and also implementation to be more user friendly | 15:35 |
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| ildikov | gordc: lol :) | 15:35 |
| gordc | ildikov: just for reference i added the deprecation topic to ops meeting too | 15:36 |
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| ildikov | gordc: ok, cool, maybe we can merge it then with the ops session outcome slot | 15:36 |
| ildikov | gordc: let's see when we get there to schedule the session proposals | 15:37 |
| gordc | ildikov: kk. someting to consider when we assign slots | 15:37 |
| gordc | cool cool... anything else? | 15:37 |
| cdent | bowling | 15:38 |
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| gordc | sshhh! | 15:38 |
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| cdent | ha ha only serious | 15:38 |
| cdent | (not really) | 15:38 |
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| gordc | we'll close voting next thursday?... let's say when i wake up. EST | 15:38 |
| gordc | so just guess when i wake up... and vote based on that. | 15:39 |
| gordc | #topic open discussion | 15:39 |
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| llu-laptop | just want to make an announcement | 15:39 |
| gordc | cdent: i think puppet team wanted to a bowl off against us. | 15:39 |
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| llu-laptop | we brought out 3rd party CI for ceilometer | 15:39 |
| llu-laptop | it's about testing the ipmi meters | 15:40 |
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| gordc | llu-laptop: cool! i saw that new check. | 15:40 |
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| cdent | has been seeing the mail, is it working out? | 15:40 |
| llu-laptop | only one test case now, but we're planning to add more test cases, like snmp related too | 15:40 |
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| gordc | llu-laptop: so ping you if it starts failing? | 15:41 |
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| prad | llu-laptop, meant to ask about that, its a non-voting check i assume? | 15:41 |
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| llu-laptop | gordc: ok. but just for a notice, right now, most of the failure comes from network connection issues in our crappy intel's network environment | 15:41 |
| llu-laptop | prad: it's not voting now | 15:42 |
| prad | cool | 15:42 |
| gordc | llu-laptop: lol appreciate the honesty | 15:42 |
| llu-laptop | more than 90% of the failure comes from those network issues, we have 4 3rd party CIs, for different OS project | 15:43 |
| jd__ | yay more spam | 15:44 |
| * cdent is pretty sure jd__ knows about filters | 15:44 | |
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| gordc | cdent: i use hotmail. it has crappy filters... | 15:45 |
| cdent | heh | 15:45 |
| gordc | i get everything or nothing... i chose nothing | 15:45 |
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| fabiog | I have to go. Talk to you all next week | 15:45 |
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| gordc | cool cool. anything else? | 15:45 |
| * cdent thinks about tim hortons | 15:46 | |
| jd__ | cdent: :-) | 15:46 |
| gordc | cdent: you can dream in os-ceilometer. | 15:47 |
| gordc | shutting it down | 15:47 |
| gordc | thanks everyone. | 15:47 |
| gordc | #endmeeting | 15:47 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:47 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 30 15:47:39 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2015/ceilometer.2015-04-30-15.00.html | 15:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2015/ceilometer.2015-04-30-15.00.txt | 15:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ceilometer/2015/ceilometer.2015-04-30-15.00.log.html | 15:47 |
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| stevemar | o/ | 19:00 |
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| stevemar | courtesy ping for dtroyer, sigmavirus24 dhellmann lhcheng terrylhowe briancurtin | 19:00 |
| dtroyer | yo | 19:01 |
| terrylhowe | o/ | 19:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | thank you kindly | 19:01 |
| dtroyer | I was in the wrong room | 19:01 |
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| briancurtin | hey | 19:01 |
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| dtroyer | #startmeeting OpenStackClient | 19:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 30 19:02:32 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtroyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:02 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:02 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStackClient)" | 19:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstackclient' | 19:02 |
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| lhcheng | o/ | 19:02 |
| dtroyer | light agenda at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/OpenStackClient#30_Apr_2015 | 19:02 |
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| dtroyer | #topic 1.2.0 release | 19:03 |
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| dhellmann | o/ | 19:03 |
| dtroyer | in spite of my best efforts, 1.2.0 isn't out yet. I'm planning to tag it after the meeting if there are no objections | 19:03 |
| stevemar | sounds good | 19:04 |
| stevemar | that silly proposal bot never did end up proposing any patches to osc to upgrade ksc | 19:04 |
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| dtroyer | I'm actually fine with not following those immediately | 19:05 |
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| dtroyer | ok, that'll be a go soon then | 19:05 |
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| stevemar | thats cool, nice way to kick off liberty | 19:06 |
| dtroyer | #topic summit planning | 19:06 |
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| dtroyer | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/osc-liberty-summit-planning | 19:06 |
| dtroyer | we've gained some suggestions | 19:06 |
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| dtroyer | I think we need to sort for the working session and fishbowl | 19:07 |
| stevemar | are these in the PTLs priority? ;) | 19:07 |
| dtroyer | no, they are in chrono order | 19:07 |
| terrylhowe | I don’t think so | 19:07 |
| dtroyer | by when added | 19:07 |
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| dtroyer | for things like 'support <project x> commands', is there much discussion other than who and priority? | 19:08 |
| dhellmann | dtroyer: I plan to do some work on cliff to speed up command discovery, but I don't really have a blueprint or spec for that quite yet because it will require some experimentation to develop my currently half-baked ideas. Do you want that on this list anyway? | 19:08 |
| stevemar | probably not | 19:08 |
| stevemar | just a matter of time to do the work | 19:08 |
| stevemar | dhellmann, sounds like something to add | 19:09 |
| dtroyer | dhellmann: sure, if you want to talk about it in Vancouver | 19:09 |
| dtroyer | in my very crude tests, plus Boris' static import tool, cliff was actually pretty good | 19:09 |
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| dtroyer | compared to loading ksc for example. that's one place we need to get smarter. | 19:10 |
| dhellmann | ah, ok, maybe I misunderstood the outcome of that conversation | 19:10 |
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| dtroyer | if you can improve it, by all means sure. but I don't think it is the long stick in our pokeyness | 19:11 |
| stevemar | dtroyer, fwiw, the patch you had to make auth plugins discoverable really helped | 19:11 |
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| dhellmann | ok, I'll experiment some before doing anything real | 19:12 |
| dtroyer | stevemar: I'm working on re-ordering the global option handling, splitting things up so we don't even need to scan all of the plugins unless needed, say for help | 19:12 |
| dtroyer | that's what all the test work is about, to make sure I don't break us | 19:12 |
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| dtroyer | from last night | 19:12 |
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| dtroyer | I guess one factor to determine which session a topic goes into is how much feedback we want/expect from those outside the dev team | 19:14 |
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| stevemar | yeah, thats ture | 19:16 |
| stevemar | true | 19:16 |
| stevemar | i'm surprised the puppet/chef folks haven't bugged us at all | 19:16 |
| dtroyer | we haven't always gotten a lot either | 19:16 |
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| dtroyer | so what I'm thinking is that stuff we want to talk details on goes into workroom, I can take a cut at it | 19:17 |
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| dtroyer | ok, moving on then | 19:18 |
| dtroyer | #topic bugs & reviews | 19:18 |
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| dtroyer | I didn't pull anything out to highlight this time | 19:19 |
| dtroyer | is there a bug or review anyone wants to get attention for? | 19:19 |
| stevemar | hmm | 19:19 |
| stevemar | eventually we need to hammer out bug 1447704 | 19:20 |
| openstack | bug 1447704 in python-openstackclient "token issue fails for keystone v2 if OS_PROJECT_DOMAIN_NAME or OS_USER_DOMAIN_NAME are set" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1447704 - Assigned to Dean Troyer (dtroyer) | 19:20 |
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| stevemar | we keep bandaging it | 19:20 |
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| dtroyer | that's what led me down the path to re-work the arg handling. things are in the wrong order and three places want to do env vars | 19:21 |
| dtroyer | I've got a working model I can push up, but it has no tests yet. would be worth getting opinions though | 19:21 |
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| dtroyer | the problem is needing to know the auth plugin before parsing any of the other auth args. | 19:22 |
| stevemar | nothing else for bugs for me, theres the usual ones that have been bouncing around | 19:23 |
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| terrylhowe | why have a domain set if you are doing v2, makes no sense | 19:23 |
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| terrylhowe | nothing on bugs from me | 19:23 |
| stevemar | most are legit bugs, but we haven't gotten around to fixing them yet | 19:24 |
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| stevemar | maybe we can do that in a working session? bug stamping out day? | 19:24 |
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| terrylhowe | that would be good | 19:24 |
| lhcheng | terrylhowe: I agree, the domain set should be just ignored for v2. | 19:24 |
| dtroyer | that sounds like something for Friday morning | 19:25 |
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| dtroyer | ok, we're making this fast today | 19:25 |
| dtroyer | #topic open discussion | 19:26 |
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| dtroyer | anyone have anything? | 19:26 |
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| dhellmann | nothing here | 19:26 |
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| dtroyer | wow, quiet bunch today | 19:27 |
| dtroyer | ok, well, once https://review.openstack.org/177977 merges we'll have 1.2.0 | 19:28 |
| dtroyer | thanks everyone | 19:28 |
| stevemar | how many working sessions and fishbowls will there be? | 19:28 |
| dtroyer | :) | 19:28 |
| stevemar | i ain't done yet! | 19:28 |
| dtroyer | one of each, plus Friday morning | 19:28 |
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| stevemar | okay, hope that doesn't overlap with keystone :D | 19:28 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar: keystone has full day on friday fwiw | 19:28 |
| stevemar | morganfainberg, nooo | 19:29 |
| morganfainberg | stevemar: yep. | 19:29 |
| dtroyer | I figured Friday would be somewhat in&out | 19:29 |
| morganfainberg | dtroyer: yeah i expect people to move between sesions on friday | 19:29 |
| stevemar | hmmm, i guess we'll chat about the big topics at the summit | 19:29 |
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| stevemar | we should really look into getting neutron support in there | 19:30 |
| stevemar | and asking puppet/chef what they want from us | 19:30 |
| stevemar | and ironic/congress ppl what they need | 19:30 |
| terrylhowe | why doesn’t puppet/chef use Fog? | 19:30 |
| dtroyer | are they both using OSC as their client? | 19:30 |
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| terrylhowe | not that Fog for OpenStack is very good | 19:30 |
| * stevemar shrugs at terrylhowe | 19:30 | |
| stevemar | dtroyer, which both are you referring to? | 19:31 |
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| dtroyer | chef & puppet | 19:31 |
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| stevemar | puppet is for sure | 19:31 |
| dtroyer | I only knew about one, and now I can't remember which it was ;) | 19:31 |
| stevemar | but i've seen osc mentioned a few times in the chef channel | 19:31 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer, puppet | 19:31 |
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| stevemar | which are the teams using osc as their CLI now? | 19:32 |
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| stevemar | i know ironic has a bunch of patches lined up | 19:33 |
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| dtroyer | and congress only built a plugin for cli | 19:33 |
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| stevemar | one thing i was think of on that topic was... how can we (force/encourage) consistent behaviour from their new CLI options? | 19:33 |
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| dtroyer | I don't think we can force it. | 19:34 |
| stevemar | the point of OSC was to have consistency across all projects | 19:34 |
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| stevemar | now just layer1 | 19:34 |
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| stevemar | aside from us reviewing the patches of course :P | 19:34 |
| dtroyer | I got all soap-boxy earler this week about that and that's really all I want to do. | 19:34 |
| dtroyer | exactly, and that's the message, the 'C' in OSC stands for consistent | 19:34 |
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| dtroyer | but in the end it's not our code | 19:35 |
| stevemar | blah | 19:35 |
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| dhellmann | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/python-openstackclient/commands.html looks like it has some good guidelines, we could encourage them to follow those | 19:36 |
| stevemar | we're just repeating the problem we were trying to solve | 19:36 |
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| clarkb | as a user of the old clients nova floating-ip-list and neutron floatingip-list are the most terrible things ever | 19:36 |
| terrylhowe | I really want to mess aroudn with the cli plugin thing, but I keep getting sidetracked | 19:36 |
| stevemar | clarkb, why's that? i know nothing about either | 19:36 |
| dhellmann | dtroyer: we could also turn off plugins, but that would mean we would need to be ready to accept more patches | 19:36 |
| clarkb | stevemar: its two different strings | 19:37 |
| stevemar | ah | 19:37 |
| clarkb | stevemar: they do the same thing, except not | 19:37 |
| stevemar | clarkb, like when you do `nova list` and try `keystone list` and only one of those works? | 19:37 |
| dtroyer | dhellmann: plugins was the second-most compelling reason to do this in my mind | 19:37 |
| terrylhowe | for neutron, it would be nice to drop the ‘floating’ part | 19:37 |
| dhellmann | dtroyer: yeah, mine, too, I'm just saying that's a way to force consistency :-) | 19:37 |
| clarkb | stevemar: well in this case its different data iirc | 19:38 |
| stevemar | clarkb, even better | 19:38 |
| clarkb | stevemar: so your script to delete nova floating IPs doesn't work with neutron unless you use nova client which is slower for talking to neutron | 19:38 |
| dtroyer | I'm trying carrots first, with maybe a wet noodle to 'encourage' them | 19:38 |
| dhellmann | dtroyer: ++ | 19:38 |
| dhellmann | dtroyer: just documenting our options... | 19:38 |
| dhellmann | I think dropping plugins would be a mistake | 19:39 |
| * dtroyer is taking people too literal today for some reason | 19:39 | |
| dtroyer | must be that damn new Windows laptop on my desk | 19:39 |
| dtroyer | yeah, that's the ticket | 19:39 |
| stevemar | dtroyer, being on the tc is taking it's toll | 19:39 |
| dtroyer | it ages you! | 19:40 |
| stevemar | mmhmm | 19:40 |
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| stevemar | alright, i'm good for this week | 19:40 |
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| stevemar | unless terrylhowe wanted to talk functional testing? | 19:40 |
| stevemar | hes been up to no good on that front | 19:40 |
| dtroyer | s/no/much/ !!!!! ;) | 19:41 |
| terrylhowe | well, the latest func tests seem to be working pretty well is about all, but I doubt anyone has had a chance to look at that yet | 19:41 |
| terrylhowe | add group_regex to .testr.conf makes setUpClass work a lot better | 19:42 |
| terrylhowe | that is about all on that. I’d like to hammer out a bunch of those given the chance | 19:42 |
| * dtroyer hands terrylhowe three chances | 19:43 | |
| terrylhowe | :) | 19:43 |
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| dtroyer | ok, this time for sure… | 19:43 |
| dhellmann | heh | 19:43 |
| dtroyer | thanks again everyone | 19:44 |
| dtroyer | #endmeeting | 19:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 30 19:44:09 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2015/openstackclient.2015-04-30-19.02.html | 19:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2015/openstackclient.2015-04-30-19.02.txt | 19:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2015/openstackclient.2015-04-30-19.02.log.html | 19:44 |
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| mtreinish | #startmeeting qa | 22:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Apr 30 22:01:42 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mtreinish. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 22:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 22:01 |
| mtreinish | hi who's here today | 22:01 |
| masayukig | o/ | 22:01 |
| mtreinish | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Proposed_Agenda_for_April_30th_2015_.282200_UTC.29 | 22:01 |
| dkranz | o/ | 22:02 |
| oomichi | hi | 22:02 |
| mtreinish | ^^^ today's agenda | 22:02 |
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| mtreinish | jogo, dtroyer, sdague: around? | 22:02 |
| mtreinish | well let's get started and maybe more people will trickle in later | 22:03 |
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| jogo | o/ | 22:03 |
| mtreinish | #topic Design summit planning | 22:03 |
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| mtreinish | so we've got a fair amount of topics listed on the etherpad: | 22:04 |
| mtreinish | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-qa-summit-topics | 22:04 |
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| mtreinish | I think we should probably start trying to work out which ones would be good for summit | 22:04 |
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| mtreinish | it doesn't look like too many people filled out interested this time on the etherpad | 22:04 |
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| mtreinish | I guess to start does anyone have a topic listed there that stands out as being one we definitely should have? | 22:05 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: Tempest Scope Revisited | 22:05 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: ok | 22:05 |
| mtreinish | I was wondering if we should combine that with the qa in the big tent | 22:06 |
| mtreinish | or leave it separate | 22:06 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: I think we may run out of time if we combine but could combine into a double session | 22:06 |
| Rockyg | ++ | 22:06 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: ok well I'll put them as back to back fishbowls then | 22:07 |
| * mtreinish hopes he can come up with enough etherpad notes for 2 sessions | 22:07 | |
| dkranz | mtreinish: ++ | 22:07 |
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| oomichi | +1 for them and combining | 22:08 |
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| mtreinish | oomichi: combined as one session or 2? | 22:08 |
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| oomichi | for 2 :) | 22:08 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: heh, ok :) | 22:08 |
| mtreinish | well the next on the list is the grenade session | 22:09 |
| mtreinish | which we don't need to have | 22:09 |
| oomichi | they will be big/important topics | 22:09 |
| mtreinish | because sdague already did it | 22:09 |
| mtreinish | oh, although there is a note to have an explanatory session on using it | 22:09 |
| mtreinish | are there any others that stand out to people? | 22:10 |
| dtroyer | o/ | 22:10 |
| mtreinish | dtroyer: so your devstack session do you think a fishbowl or a workroom is a better fit? | 22:11 |
| mtreinish | I'm leaning towards fishbowl | 22:11 |
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| dtroyer | I thnk so too, devstack seems to draw a crowd | 22:12 |
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| dtroyer | not a docker-size crowd, but more than the workrooms | 22:12 |
| mtreinish | dtroyer: I dunno devstack is totally as hip as docker | 22:13 |
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| mtreinish | hmm, ok are there any other proposals people want to discuss? we don't have to decide everything today | 22:14 |
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| mtreinish | I'll also try to do some culling over the next week | 22:16 |
| mtreinish | like I don't think we need a session on upgrading cirros versions | 22:16 |
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| sigmavirus24 | "devstack seems to draw a crowd" well what do you expect from the most popular project used to deploy openstack | 22:16 |
| mtreinish | sigmavirus24: heh, that's a good point :) | 22:17 |
| mtreinish | ok, does anyone else have anything else to discuss on summit sessions? | 22:17 |
| mtreinish | I'll try to come up with a draft schedule on my own if there isn't other feedback | 22:18 |
| Rockyg | I would think you could combine some of the specific sessions on passwords, system program, etc into a "how do we move tempest tobe installable and runnable on any OpenStack cloud? | 22:18 |
| mtreinish | Rockyg: that's actually conflating a couple different things | 22:18 |
| mtreinish | the system program topic is about how tempest is designed to be run and end users interact with it | 22:19 |
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| mtreinish | it wouldn't really effect the mission to run against any cloud | 22:19 |
| mtreinish | but I get what your going at | 22:19 |
| Rockyg | Ah. Thanks for the clarification | 22:19 |
| mtreinish | combining sessions is a good idea | 22:19 |
| Rockyg | Back in atlanta there was a session about making the "test server" You have the library, so..... | 22:20 |
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| mtreinish | I was planning to do that where it made sense like for oomichi's tempest service client and the schema one from gmann | 22:20 |
| mtreinish | that'll be one session | 22:20 |
| mtreinish | and probably a work room | 22:20 |
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| Rockyg | cool | 22:20 |
| mtreinish | Rockyg: well we decided not to do rest interface part of the server for the time being, because there are other things like jenkins to do that | 22:21 |
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| oomichi | yeah, maybe one work room/session is enough for them | 22:21 |
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| mtreinish | but subunit2sql was designed to fill the backend part of the proposal for that server topic back in atlanta | 22:21 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: ok, I'll make that a work room | 22:21 |
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| Rockyg | and is being used by refstack | 22:21 |
| Rockyg | And rally, I think | 22:22 |
| oomichi | and will write the detail later | 22:22 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: ok thanks | 22:22 |
| mtreinish | Rockyg: subunit2sql? to my knowledge neither of those are using it | 22:22 |
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| Rockyg | Refstack is. Or at least was. I think it still does. | 22:23 |
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| mtreinish | ok, well is there anything else to discuss on summit sessions? oomichi, masayukig if we pick this up for next week's meeting I want to make sure your thoughts on this are represented | 22:24 |
| Rockyg | Another possible session to consider: How to generate scenario tests from Use Cases (telco, etc). Define structure and process. | 22:24 |
| mtreinish | Rockyg: I did a quick grep and didn't see anything. I think you might be confusing subunit and subunit2sql. But we can pick that up after the meeting | 22:25 |
| Rockyg | yup | 22:25 |
| oomichi | ok, I will write my name on the etherpad to represent my thinking | 22:25 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: ok cool thanks | 22:25 |
| masayukig | mtreinish: sure | 22:25 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: thanks for considering | 22:25 |
| mtreinish | Rockyg: that would probably be something to put on the sprint day list | 22:25 |
| Rockyg | ++ | 22:25 |
| masayukig | mtreinish: I'll put my name on the pad of my thinking. | 22:26 |
| mtreinish | masayukig: ok thanks | 22:26 |
| Rockyg | Thanks for the considertion! | 22:26 |
| mtreinish | then is everyone ok if we make next week's meeting the final decision date for picking topics? | 22:26 |
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| mtreinish | ok well if there isn't any objection I guess that's what we'll do :) | 22:28 |
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| mtreinish | #info next weeks meeting will finalize design summit topics for qa | 22:28 |
| mtreinish | ok let's move on | 22:28 |
| mtreinish | #topic Blueprints | 22:28 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Blueprints (Meeting topic: qa)" | 22:28 | |
| mtreinish | does anyone have any open bps they'd like to discuss | 22:28 |
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| mtreinish | heh, I'll take that as a no :) | 22:30 |
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| mtreinish | I guess I should mention that I pushed the tempest-4 tag yesterday | 22:30 |
| mtreinish | not that it's really a bp, but this seems like a good a time as any | 22:30 |
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| mtreinish | ok, well lets move on then | 22:31 |
| mtreinish | #topic Devstack | 22:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Devstack (Meeting topic: qa)" | 22:32 | |
| mtreinish | dtroyer: anything new for devstack this week? | 22:32 |
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| dtroyer | I don't have much, been playing new kid at school this week, | 22:32 |
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| dtroyer | I see Sean C's dual-stack default change merged | 22:33 |
| mtreinish | dtroyer: heh, long onboarding process? | 22:33 |
| mtreinish | dtroyer: yeah that landed earlier this week, which is awesome | 22:33 |
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| mtreinish | sc68cal: ^^^ | 22:33 |
| dtroyer | delayed, apparently remote is hard | 22:33 |
| dtroyer | I should be jumping back on the neutron rewrite next week, hoping to get the basic services running | 22:33 |
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| dtroyer | and then the platform for all of the layered plugins | 22:34 |
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| dtroyer | nothing else from me | 22:34 |
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| mtreinish | dtroyer: ok cool, that'll be good to have in place. How much longer after that is done do you expect to keep neutron-legacy around? | 22:35 |
| mtreinish | is there a longer deprecation cycle because of grenade I guess is what I'm asking | 22:35 |
| dtroyer | longer than I want. grenade is part of it, but also just migrating all of those plugins either to the new bits or into external trees will take a while | 22:35 |
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| mtreinish | ah ok | 22:36 |
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| mtreinish | ok is there anything else on devstack? | 22:37 |
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| mtreinish | ok let's move on | 22:38 |
| mtreinish | #topic Grenade | 22:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Grenade (Meeting topic: qa)" | 22:38 | |
| mtreinish | jogo: anything on grenade this week? | 22:38 |
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| mtreinish | I guess not | 22:39 |
| mtreinish | let's move on | 22:39 |
| mtreinish | #topic Critical Reviews | 22:39 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Critical Reviews (Meeting topic: qa)" | 22:40 | |
| jogo | mtreinish: more of the sdague changes | 22:40 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone have any reviews they'd like to bring up | 22:40 |
| mtreinish | jogo: perfect timing :) | 22:40 |
| mtreinish | jogo: ah, yeah some of the post refactor cleanups | 22:40 |
| jogo | I try | 22:40 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: https://review.openstack.org/158198 | 22:40 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/158198/ | 22:40 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: This is the trusts thing from jamie | 22:41 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: yeah it looks like a good thing to fix as we move into a real v3 world | 22:41 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: I don't quite get the trusts stuff enough to give +A | 22:42 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: and the domain scoping details | 22:42 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz: heh, know one said the v3 world was simple :) | 22:42 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: it's been sitting like that for two weeks | 22:43 |
| mtreinish | I blame morganfainberg... | 22:43 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz: sure I'll review it after the meeting | 22:43 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: we could ask morganfainberg to give it a proxy +2 :) | 22:43 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: ok, if you are comfortable with that then great | 22:43 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: oh, sure that's a good idea | 22:43 |
| morganfainberg | let me finish with a phone call. | 22:43 |
| morganfainberg | and i can look | 22:43 |
| mtreinish | morganfainberg: heh, cool thanks | 22:44 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174671/ | 22:44 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/174473/ | 22:44 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:python3-support,n,z | 22:44 |
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| morganfainberg | for the record: I do tend to trust jamielennox's judgement on this stuff [if it needs to go in sooner] | 22:44 |
| mtreinish | those should all be pretty straightforward reviews | 22:45 |
| mtreinish | the python 3 branch will probably bit rot quickly | 22:45 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: oh, sorry I did not get back to the second one which I said I was +2 | 22:45 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: oh no worries | 22:45 |
| mtreinish | after all those patches land and the tempest-lib migration patches for tempest-lib 0.5.0 land | 22:45 |
| dkranz | morganfainberg: It can wait for your review | 22:45 |
| mtreinish | we're down to like 8 unit tests that don't pass on python3 | 22:45 |
| morganfainberg | ok will ping mtreinish or dkranz once i review | 22:45 |
| dkranz | morganfainberg: thx | 22:46 |
| mtreinish | ok are there any other reviews to bring up? | 22:46 |
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| mtreinish | ok then let's open the floor | 22:48 |
| mtreinish | #topic Open Discussion | 22:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: qa)" | 22:48 | |
| mtreinish | dsoes any one have anything else to discuss this week? | 22:48 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I wanted to finish the chat about the filter ip list failure but we can do that in qa channel | 22:49 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: ok sure | 22:49 |
| mtreinish | well then I guess we can end here | 22:49 |
| mtreinish | thanks everyone | 22:50 |
| dkranz | bye | 22:50 |
| oomichi | thanks | 22:50 |
| masayukig | thanks | 22:50 |
| mtreinish | #endmeeting | 22:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 22:50 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Apr 30 22:50:17 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2015/qa.2015-04-30-22.01.html | 22:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2015/qa.2015-04-30-22.01.txt | 22:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2015/qa.2015-04-30-22.01.log.html | 22:50 |
| Rockyg | thanks | 22:50 |
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