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| amaretskiy | #startmeeting Rally | 14:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon May 25 14:01:08 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is amaretskiy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Rally)" | 14:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rally' | 14:01 |
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| amaretskiy | hi all | 14:01 |
| yfried_ | hi | 14:02 |
| oanufriev | hi all | 14:02 |
| amaretskiy | let's start | 14:03 |
| amaretskiy | #topic new HTML reports classes | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "new HTML reports classes (Meeting topic: Rally)" | 14:03 | |
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| amaretskiy | I'm currently working on new improved classes for report charts | 14:04 |
| amaretskiy | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/159458/ | 14:04 |
| amaretskiy | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146814/ | 14:04 |
| amaretskiy | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/169828/ | 14:04 |
| amaretskiy | these patches will be updated soon | 14:04 |
| amaretskiy | so I believe tomorrow they will be ready for review | 14:05 |
| amaretskiy | and we will have these patches in next release | 14:05 |
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| amaretskiy | #topic New script for gate jobs | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "New script for gate jobs (Meeting topic: Rally)" | 14:05 | |
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| amaretskiy | redixin what status have https://review.openstack.org/#/c/175549/ | 14:06 |
| amaretskiy | I believe it is complete | 14:06 |
| redixin | it have only on +1 from you ;) | 14:07 |
| redixin | yep | 14:07 |
| redixin | i think so | 14:07 |
| amaretskiy | this patch needs reviews | 14:07 |
| amaretskiy | colleagues, please review it | 14:07 |
| amaretskiy | this patch is critical for next release | 14:08 |
| amaretskiy | okay, waiting for reviews from others.... | 14:08 |
| amaretskiy | #topic Fuel benchmarks | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Fuel benchmarks (Meeting topic: Rally)" | 14:08 | |
| amaretskiy | this topic is related to several patches, first patch is one that registers fuelclient and adds simple scenario - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/178731/ | 14:10 |
| amaretskiy | there is a small nit with this patch - I will submit new patch set today | 14:10 |
| amaretskiy | but we have real problem on gates | 14:10 |
| amaretskiy | since fuelclient package is in optional-requirements.txt and we have ImportError on gates | 14:11 |
| redixin | so are we going to skip testing scenario samples? | 14:11 |
| amaretskiy | this is a point for discussion | 14:11 |
| rvasilets | I like this way of solution | 14:12 |
| amaretskiy | for my point of view, skip is a simple and good solution | 14:12 |
| amaretskiy | but I do not remember that boris-42 has approved that :( | 14:12 |
| rvasilets | if can't solve it in normal way | 14:12 |
| amaretskiy | redixin, what do you think, can we start implementing of this skip without boris-42 opinion, or we are blocked? | 14:13 |
| yfried_ | amaretskiy: redixin will the Fuel scenarios be tested on the Mirantis Gate? | 14:14 |
| redixin | yfried_, it already tested | 14:14 |
| redixin | fuel-community-6.0SUCCESS (non voting) in 4m 12s | 14:14 |
| amaretskiy | yfried_ the problem is regarding job "gate-rally-dsvm-cli" | 14:14 |
| redixin | amaretskiy, imo we should add patch with "try import except ImportError self.skip" | 14:15 |
| yfried_ | redixin: then make it voting and IMO it should be enough. if the main gait doesn't allow for it | 14:15 |
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| redixin | yfried_, the problem is in another job. that job is trying to do "rally task validate" for each task sample | 14:15 |
| redixin | yfried_, and it is failing with ImportError fuelclient | 14:16 |
| amaretskiy | okay, does anybody want to make this patch? | 14:16 |
| yfried_ | redixin: I get it. You want to skip (=igonre importError) on the main gate. | 14:16 |
| redixin | so we can just skip it if there is no fuelclient installed | 14:16 |
| yfried_ | redixin: IMO this is only valid of the Mirantis gate has it as voting. | 14:17 |
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| amaretskiy | redixin, we can even parse if `fuelclient' is in ImportError messahe | 14:17 |
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| amaretskiy | *message | 14:17 |
| redixin | amaretskiy, wait | 14:17 |
| yfried_ | redixin: amaretskiy: I don't understand why have the fuel scenario on main gate at all | 14:17 |
| rvasilets | Ok I will make patch that skip ImportError for Fuel samples | 14:17 |
| amaretskiy | rvasilets: great | 14:17 |
| redixin | try import fuelclient except importError // should be enough | 14:17 |
| amaretskiy | redixin: okay | 14:18 |
| redixin | yfried_, it is not fuel scenario. it is job which checks all task samples | 14:18 |
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| amaretskiy | so, it seems that we have decided what to do with this problem, lets continue... | 14:19 |
| e0ne | hi | 14:19 |
| amaretskiy | we have another patches related to Fuel scenarios | 14:19 |
| amaretskiy | e0ne hi | 14:19 |
| redixin | yfried_, https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/tests/functional/test_task_samples.py | 14:19 |
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| redixin | amaretskiy, oh. we cant just add "import fuelclient" in try/except block. we should do something other. like here: https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/tests/functional/test_task_samples.py#L49-L50 | 14:22 |
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| rvasilets | I'll solve this issue | 14:23 |
| redixin | good | 14:23 |
| amaretskiy | rvasilets, great! | 14:23 |
| amaretskiy | ok, let's proceed | 14:23 |
| amaretskiy | oanufriev please give your status for your patches regarding Fuel scenarios | 14:23 |
| oanufriev | Well, there are two patches: https://review.openstack.org/182873 and https://review.openstack.org/181270 | 14:25 |
| oanufriev | They are under development - no unit tests. | 14:25 |
| redixin | are these patches scheduled for next release? | 14:25 |
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| oanufriev | But looks like they do the job | 14:25 |
| oanufriev | EOM | 14:25 |
| amaretskiy | According to current release management doc - I guess no | 14:26 |
| redixin | ok. I will take a look anyway | 14:26 |
| amaretskiy | Okay, these patches are important in any case, waiting for unit tests | 14:26 |
| oanufriev | ok | 14:27 |
| amaretskiy | #topic Specs | 14:27 |
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| amaretskiy | we have a lot of important patches related to specs | 14:27 |
| amaretskiy | yair_ please tell us about refactoring of scenario utils | 14:28 |
| amaretskiy | I see interesting spec about that | 14:28 |
| amaretskiy | yfried_* | 14:29 |
| amaretskiy | yfried_ ^ | 14:29 |
| yfried_ | amaretskiy: the idea is to make the scenaio/*/utils.py not part of inheritance tree | 14:29 |
| amaretskiy | we suffer for this problem for a long time, this spec is important | 14:30 |
| yfried_ | amaretskiy: it's blocked on 2 things | 14:30 |
| yfried_ | 1. AtomicMixin | 14:31 |
| yfried_ | 2. https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/rally+branch:master+topic:refactor_a_bit_plugins,n,z | 14:31 |
| amaretskiy | yes, atomic actions are not well-described in this spec (that I have mentioned in review) | 14:31 |
| yfried_ | amaretskiy: 1 - should remove atomic actions from the scenario tree and make it plugins generic. I guess I'm gonna have to re-visit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/148637/ | 14:32 |
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| yfried_ | amaretskiy: problem is, having 2 merged would make 1 much simpler if we make it a part of the generic plugin base | 14:33 |
| amaretskiy | in any case, this spec should explain how atomic actions will be implemented | 14:33 |
| yfried_ | amaretskiy: I'm waiting on boris to help me draft the spec and finish #2 | 14:34 |
| amaretskiy | I had discussion with boris-42 about atomic actions - their correct implementation is very important | 14:34 |
| amaretskiy | okay, redixin oanufriev rvasilets please look at this spec | 14:34 |
| amaretskiy | okay, let's proceed | 14:35 |
| yfried_ | amaretskiy: I'm a little foggy on the details | 14:35 |
| yfried_ | amaretskiy: so any suggestions re atomic actions are welcome | 14:35 |
| yfried_ | amaretskiy: maybe a different spec??? | 14:35 |
| amaretskiy | yfried_ mayvbe just add some idea (even foggy) to the spec so we will have a point to start discussion? | 14:36 |
| yfried_ | amaretskiy: will do | 14:36 |
| amaretskiy | yfried_ thanks! | 14:36 |
| amaretskiy | #topic Free discussion | 14:36 |
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| amaretskiy | does anyone have comments? | 14:37 |
| oanufriev | nop | 14:38 |
| amaretskiy | okay, so end meeting | 14:38 |
| amaretskiy | thanks to all!!! | 14:38 |
| amaretskiy | #endmeeting | 14:38 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon May 25 14:38:58 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2015/rally.2015-05-25-14.01.html | 14:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2015/rally.2015-05-25-14.01.txt | 14:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2015/rally.2015-05-25-14.01.log.html | 14:39 |
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| anteaya | #startmeeting third party | 15:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon May 25 15:01:39 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:01 |
| anteaya | hello | 15:01 |
| anteaya | raise your hand if you are here for the third party meeting | 15:02 |
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| anteaya | it might be that we all enjoyed summit so much we are still arriving back home and catching up with all the email | 15:04 |
| anteaya | which is fine | 15:04 |
| anteaya | if I don't see some folks arrive soon, I'll wrap up as I have a next thing to do after this | 15:04 |
| anteaya | and we can talk more next week | 15:05 |
| * anteaya waits to see if anyone shows up | 15:05 | |
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| anteaya | as a public service announcement, folks wanting drivers in cinder need to be aware of these deadlines | 15:11 |
| anteaya | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-May/064072.html | 15:11 |
| anteaya | also manilla appears to be heading in the direction of third party ci | 15:13 |
| anteaya | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-May/064086.html | 15:13 |
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| anteaya | and I see to be by myself today, so I'll wrap it up | 15:14 |
| anteaya | hope everyone had safe travels home and see you next week | 15:14 |
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| anteaya | #endmeeting | 15:14 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon May 25 15:14:21 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:14 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-05-25-15.01.html | 15:14 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-05-25-15.01.txt | 15:14 |
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| sarob | #startmeeting training-guides | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon May 25 17:00:12 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' | 17:00 |
| sarob | roll call | 17:00 |
| rluethi | here | 17:00 |
| sarob | hello | 17:00 |
| sarob | anyone else? | 17:01 |
| rluethi | just the two of us? | 17:01 |
| sarob | guess so | 17:02 |
| sarob | no prob | 17:02 |
| rluethi | okay, can you give me a summary of what went down in Vancouver | 17:02 |
| sarob | i can you give you a run down of what we discussed at the summit | 17:02 |
| rluethi | perfect | 17:02 |
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| sarob | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-training-guides-design | 17:03 |
| sarob | we met a few times | 17:03 |
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| sarob | i joined the upstream training the sunday before the summit | 17:04 |
| rluethi | k. skimming. | 17:04 |
| sarob | went through the lego agile team building exercise | 17:04 |
| sarob | very cool and fun | 17:05 |
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| rluethi | what did you build? | 17:05 |
| sarob | need a group of about 20 people to make it work though | 17:05 |
| sarob | building that needs to connect to other pre-built buildings | 17:05 |
| sarob | we break up into upstream devs, company devs, CEOs, and individual contributors | 17:06 |
| sarob | 3 milestones during 45 min release cycle | 17:07 |
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| rluethi | cool. sounds more involved than what I imagined. | 17:07 |
| sarob | 5 min planning 10 work 5 review | 17:07 |
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| sarob | people's personalities came out pretty quickly | 17:08 |
| sarob | that surprised me | 17:08 |
| rluethi | that would surprise me, too :-) | 17:08 |
| sarob | id love to bring the lego building events to all the user groups | 17:08 |
| sarob | along with other training bits | 17:09 |
| sarob | word will spread that it is fun and really helps explain | 17:09 |
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| rluethi | I can see I missed out. | 17:09 |
| sarob | how openstack open source works | 17:09 |
| dguitarbite | hello | 17:09 |
| rluethi | hello | 17:10 |
| sarob | dguitarbite: hey | 17:10 |
| sarob | dguitarbite: back to your timezone? | 17:10 |
| dguitarbite | Im a bit jet lagged | 17:10 |
| dguitarbite | physically yes! | 17:10 |
| dguitarbite | Otherwise, no :D | 17:10 |
| sarob | i was just talking about legos | 17:10 |
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| dguitarbite | yes carry on | 17:11 |
| dguitarbite | Im scrolling through the logs | 17:11 |
| sarob | im all done | 17:11 |
| rluethi | news on labs scripts? | 17:11 |
| sarob | we discussed creating stackforge/stacktrain | 17:12 |
| sarob | to move osbash into | 17:12 |
| sarob | well i guess bash doesnt make | 17:12 |
| sarob | any sense now | 17:12 |
| sarob | move the labs into | 17:13 |
| rluethi | sarob: probably not in the long run | 17:13 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: The etherpad is a bit rough, I plan to update it. | 17:13 |
| rluethi | dguitarbite: that would help | 17:13 |
| sarob | the big picture bits | 17:14 |
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| sarob | openstack foundation is going forward with testing certification | 17:14 |
| Sayali | Hello | 17:14 |
| sarob | the first test will around operator | 17:14 |
| sarob | Sayali: hello | 17:14 |
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| sarob | starting to review the summit etherpad | 17:15 |
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| sarob | if you can spend about 3 hours a week for the next 6 months | 17:16 |
| sarob | advising the foundation | 17:16 |
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| sarob | on creating the test framework | 17:17 |
| sarob | email heidi@openstack.org | 17:17 |
| sarob | there are three groups for the cert stuff | 17:17 |
| sarob | an advisory, test creation, and question creation | 17:18 |
| sarob | im on the advisory | 17:18 |
| rluethi | what kind of advice are they looking for? | 17:18 |
| sarob | matjazp and dguitarbite are interested joining the advisory and the test creation groups | 17:18 |
| sarob | experience with openstack, open source, testing in general | 17:19 |
| sarob | not in that order | 17:19 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: I think that your time would be really valuable for this. Esp. because of your experiece in this feild. | 17:20 |
| sarob | i cant guarantee we all we get on the groups, but we have a good amount | 17:20 |
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| sarob | of experience with the subject so we should offer if we have the time | 17:20 |
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| sarob | of experience with the subject so we should offer if we have the time) | 17:21 |
| sarob | and commercial openstack trainers | 17:21 |
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| sarob | strange my last post disappeared | 17:22 |
| sarob | i am working on getting university professors, grey beard open source people (been around a while) | 17:22 |
| sarob | and commercial openstack trainers | 17:23 |
| sarob | anyway | 17:23 |
| sarob | this will drive what people that use the community training | 17:24 |
| sarob | will be looking for | 17:24 |
| sarob | so the more we know about certification stuff | 17:24 |
| sarob | the better tuned the project work will be | 17:24 |
| sarob | i scheduled 4 hours of akanda training this coming saturday | 17:25 |
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| sarob | its a good example of melding the community stuff with the commercial stuff | 17:26 |
| dguitarbite | we also need to ensure that the project is actively involved with the certification | 17:27 |
| dguitarbite | process | 17:27 |
| sarob | i think so | 17:27 |
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| sarob | since im on the advisory committee i can make a strong case for it | 17:27 |
| sarob | i think matjazp on the advisory also | 17:28 |
| sarob | and anyone from the team that can spare the time for the testing creation group | 17:28 |
| sarob | unfortunately you can only be on one group | 17:28 |
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| sarob | legal reasons | 17:29 |
| sarob | since the process and people running the tests get sued | 17:30 |
| sarob | wierd but i guess it happens | 17:30 |
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| sarob | cool thing would be you could add the experience to your resume | 17:30 |
| sarob | its good tech and business experience | 17:31 |
| sarob | if you have the time, email heidi | 17:31 |
| sarob | that is the time over the next 6 months | 17:31 |
| rluethi | sarob: when are those hours during the week? | 17:32 |
| sarob | group hasnt been formed yet | 17:32 |
| sarob | so it will depend on the group | 17:32 |
| dguitarbite | I assume based on the groups preferences | 17:32 |
| sarob | flexiability | 17:32 |
| sarob | dguitarbite: yeah | 17:32 |
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| sarob | thats all i got on that | 17:34 |
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| sarob | move on to the summit rundown? | 17:35 |
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| dguitarbite | sure | 17:37 |
| Sayali | Yes let's do that | 17:38 |
| sarob | #topic summit rundown | 17:38 |
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| sarob | i need to step away for about 20 minutes | 17:38 |
| sarob | i havent seen my wife in a week | 17:38 |
| sarob | and she is just coming home | 17:39 |
| sarob | y'all start without me | 17:39 |
| sarob | ? | 17:39 |
| dguitarbite | or we could just end here today | 17:39 |
| dguitarbite | and continue this over ML | 17:39 |
| sarob | sure that too | 17:39 |
| rluethi | dguitarbite: +1 | 17:39 |
| sarob | okay, cool | 17:39 |
| sarob | it was great to see you guys | 17:39 |
| sarob | sorry we missed you rluethi | 17:40 |
| sarob | see you on the ML | 17:40 |
| sarob | any last words? | 17:40 |
| rluethi | sarob: sorry I missed you guys | 17:40 |
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| dguitarbite | same here | 17:41 |
| dguitarbite | good bye :) | 17:41 |
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| rluethi | bye | 17:41 |
| sarob | #endmeeting | 17:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon May 25 17:41:50 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-05-25-17.00.html | 17:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-05-25-17.00.txt | 17:41 |
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