| Shamail | We are a bi-directional communication pipeline :) | 00:00 |
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| Shamail | That was it from me barrett | 00:00 |
| sarob | say goodnight rosie | 00:00 |
| Rockyg | Yup! thanks for the heads up! | 00:00 |
| barrett | +1 | 00:00 |
| Rockyg | goodnight, Rosie | 00:00 |
| barrett | goodnight rosie | 00:00 |
| cloudrancher | Goodnight Rosie | 00:00 |
| Shamail | goodnight rosie | 00:00 |
| MeganR | goodnight rosie | 00:00 |
| sarob | :) | 00:00 |
| jimhaselmaier | It appears I'm supposed to say goodnight Rosie | 00:00 |
| Shamail | boom. on time. | 00:00 |
| sarob | #endmeeting | 00:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 00:01 | |
| Shamail | end it, quick!! | 00:01 |
| bear_field | goodnight rosie | 00:01 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 28 00:01:01 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 00:01 |
| Shamail | yay. | 00:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_team/2015/product_team.2015-05-27-23.04.html | 00:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_team/2015/product_team.2015-05-27-23.04.txt | 00:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_team/2015/product_team.2015-05-27-23.04.log.html | 00:01 |
| Rockyg | ok, sarob. Here or in pm | 00:01 |
| Shamail | Have a great week | 00:01 |
| Shamail | look forward to the ML discussions | 00:01 |
| hogepodge | Shamail: feel free to reach out to me at any time with questions too | 00:01 |
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| Rockyg | ah, pm | 00:01 |
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| Shamail | Thanks hogepodge | 00:01 |
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| bauzas | http://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCIQtwIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DE9wWBjnaEck&ei=jh9nVYbDOqTfsAT3t4LwDw&usg=AFQjCNGjaQ5OYjcZqONxejVAhDxwcVt7Vw&bvm=bv.93990622,d.cWc | 14:00 |
| bauzas | erm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9wWBjnaEck | 14:01 |
| beagles | bauzas: nice | 14:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #startmeeting nova | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 28 14:02:05 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:02 |
| bauzas | \o | 14:02 |
| edleafe | o/ | 14:02 |
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| alex_xu | o/ | 14:02 |
| markus_z | o/ | 14:02 |
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| jlvillal | o/ | 14:02 |
| beagles | o/ | 14:02 |
| mnestratov | o/ | 14:02 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:02 |
| lxsli | o/ | 14:02 |
| dguryanov | o/ | 14:02 |
| rgerganov | o/ | 14:02 |
| eantyshev | o/ | 14:02 |
| dansmith | o/ | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 14:02 |
| garyk | o\ | 14:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | hello all | 14:02 |
| pczesno | o/ | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Release Status | 14:02 |
| dims_ | o/ | 14:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so there are lots of proposed deadline we discussed at the summit in the process session | 14:03 |
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| johnthetubaguy | basically same as kilo, is the rough summary of that | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | they are in the agenda I liked above | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | liberty-1 being spec freeze, but we keep the backlog open | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats the one thats coming close | 14:03 |
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| johnthetubaguy | rather than wasting time, I will get a proposal sent to the ML | 14:04 |
| garyk | johnthetubaguy: cool, that answer my question | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | but does anything in the list in the agenda wiki look totally off to people? | 14:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | garyk: :) | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | so moving on then | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | we have an etherpad of doom for liberty | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | we are trying out the idea of subteams suggesting their top 3 or top 5 patches | 14:05 |
| bauzas | coolness | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | again, there will be more details on whats happening on the ML soon, but thats the net net | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | its mostly all written down in the above etherpad | 14:05 |
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| johnthetubaguy | in future meetings, we can raise any stuck items listed in the etherpad I guess, but lets keep moving for now | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | there is a stuck spec review, but its not actually got a -1, so I am ignoring that: https://review.openstack.org/135387 | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | there is one non-spec blueprint to discuss | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/config-drive-support-for-virtuozzo | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | basically add config drive support to parallels, its almost a bug fix | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | any objections to approving that one? | 14:07 |
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| mnestratov | thanks for bringing this up | 14:07 |
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| dansmith | it's not a bug fix, let's be clear :) | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | mnestratov: no worries, it got on the agenda, I think mikal put it there during the summit | 14:07 |
| dansmith | but yes seems like an obvious thing to do | 14:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: yes, very true, its a "me too" feature that got left out in the initial run of parallels support patches | 14:08 |
| dansmith | yes | 14:08 |
| dansmith | are you wondering if we can do it without a spec? | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, sorry, yes, thats the thing here | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | do we approve this without a spec, as proposed in the meeting agenda by mikal | 14:09 |
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| dansmith | if it doesn't impact anything other than just driver support then I think that's fine | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: cool, I am thinking the same thing, it looks that way | 14:09 |
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| dansmith | there was another proposal for a feature parity thing affecting ceph that was similar, but it affected glance usage and ceph setup, | 14:09 |
| mnestratov | but we had a general spec for the previous release cycle | 14:09 |
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| dansmith | and thus I opined in favor of a spec because of the cross-service impact | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | mnestratov: you mean for the parallels support in general? | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: good call out, +1 on that | 14:10 |
| mnestratov | johnthetubaguy: yes | 14:10 |
| dansmith | so if this is all driver-contained, then it seems reasonable to just use a BP for tracking to me | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | +1 | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | any objections? | 14:10 |
| dims_ | +1 | 14:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/config-drive-support-for-virtuozzo is approved for liberty without the need for a spec | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think thats all updated now | 14:11 |
| mnestratov | thanks | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | mnestratov: please mark it as "NeedsCodeReview" once all the code is up for review | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | mnestratov: I guess you can do that right now? | 14:11 |
| mnestratov | johnthetubaguy: sure | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | thanks | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | so moving on | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Events: design summit and midcycle | 14:11 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so I am going through all the etherpads looking for actions | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-nova-liberty-summit-action-items | 14:12 |
| garyk | one action item should be a mid cycle in europe | 14:12 |
| * bauzas should think about renaming himself :) | 14:12 | |
| claudiub | +1 | 14:12 |
| markus_z | mid cycle in europe +1 | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | but its been delayed as we are attempting to deploy new code in our SYD region, and that being quite rough going… | 14:12 |
| bauzas | honestly +1 to it | 14:13 |
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| mnestratov | +1 | 14:13 |
| mnestratov | for europe | 14:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so for a european midcycle, I worry about diluting the US based one we already agreed would happen now | 14:13 |
| dansmith | yep | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | what about doing it during the M release? | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, pencilling one in for then | 14:14 |
| garyk | sounds good to me | 14:14 |
| bauzas | fair point | 14:14 |
| sahid | makes sense to ask about a blueprint approval here? | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | if someone has office space for that, do get in touch, so we can try sort that sound | 14:14 |
| mriedem | sahid: open discussion | 14:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sahid: we did that bit already, stuff needs to go on here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting but yeah, we can do that in Open now | 14:14 |
| sahid | mriedem, johnthetubaguy ah ok thanks i was litle bit late | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | #action johnthetubaguy to document the idea of a european midcycle next time | 14:15 |
| sahid | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-set-admin-password | 14:15 |
| sahid | a really small one | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | sahid: no worries, lets get back to that in a bit | 14:15 |
| sahid | ok | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | Ok, so lets keep moving | 14:15 |
| edleafe | warm Europe for M midcycle, please :) | 14:15 |
| cfriesen | not northern finland in winter? | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: depends who gives us office space | 14:16 |
| lxsli | but Bristol is beautiful on June 2nd-3rd! | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, lets move on | 14:16 |
| bauzas | Grenoble has quite lots of snow on the slopes by January... :D | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | feel free to start an ML thread on that, ideally with real offers of space | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Community Building | 14:16 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so this is partly a place holder to track these efforts | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | mentoring being a big part of what was discussed around scaling out the nova team | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-nova-liberty-process | 14:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | but little updates for this week | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | except, I wanted to do a survey to see if people are still happy with these meeting times | 14:18 |
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| johnthetubaguy | the survey will close the next time we have a meeting at this time | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link http://doodle.com/eyzvnawzv86ubtaw | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, so moving on | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Bugs | 14:18 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I notice our bug tag owners is getting stale : https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/BugTriage | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | it would be good to fix that, get folks to step up | 14:19 |
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| bauzas | agreed | 14:19 |
| * johnthetubaguy wink wink, nudge nudge | 14:19 | |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: hows the gate these days? | 14:19 |
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| mriedem | fine for nova on master | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1457527 | 14:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1457527 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Image-cache deleting active swap backing images" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Michael Still (mikalstill) | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1447380 | 14:20 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1447380 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "wrong cinder.conf.sample generation: missing directives for keystone_authtoken (at least)" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to John Griffith (john-griffith) | 14:20 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so they are both critial bugs right now | 14:20 |
| dansmith | how is that second one critical? | 14:20 |
| mriedem | ndipanov was talking about the first yesterday, there is a patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/83516/ | 14:20 |
| mriedem | the second is not crticial | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: I don't think it is really, its just marked that way | 14:21 |
| mriedem | i moved it to medium | 14:21 |
| dansmith | cool | 14:21 |
| ndipanov | mriedem, but that will not fix it for existing instances | 14:21 |
| ndipanov | I started looking into that but it's not sooo easy | 14:21 |
| ndipanov | if we want to cover all cases (migration etc) | 14:21 |
| dansmith | can we fix it in the list object? | 14:21 |
| markus_z | Is the openstack bootstrapping hour still a thing? I liked those. Could they do a session about bug triaging? | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: oh me too, but thats cool | 14:22 |
| bauzas | markus_z: feel free to help, we have 40 open bugs even when triaging once per week | 14:22 |
| mriedem | markus_z: need topics and presenters | 14:22 |
| bauzas | Nova is generating app. 20 new bugs per week | 14:22 |
| mriedem | markus_z: sdague generally runs those so try to find him later | 14:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | cools, I think sdague will be back online next week | 14:23 |
| bauzas | half of them are invalid from my perspective | 14:23 |
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| markus_z | bauzas: It like to, but I had issues to understand the process the last time I read the wiki | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | #action markus_z and mriedem to talk to sdague about bug triage and the bootstrapping hour | 14:23 |
| mriedem | oh i see what you did there | 14:23 |
| bauzas | markus_z: ping me and I'll be glad to help | 14:23 |
| markus_z | bauzas: thanks | 14:23 |
| markus_z | johnthetubaguy: thanks, I guess ;) | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | anything more on that critical bug? | 14:24 |
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| johnthetubaguy | probably best to take that into #openstack-nova after we are done at this point | 14:24 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #topic Open Discussion | 14:25 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so we have a stuck review listed, but its not got a -1 on it | 14:25 |
| bauzas | just about bugs, the trivial bugs list is up-to-date | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | feel free to read the agenda for the link | 14:25 |
| dansmith | we need to define stuck reviews on that page, apparently | 14:25 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #action johnthetubaguy to define "stuck reviews" on the agenda page | 14:25 |
| dansmith | i.e. "stuck != unreviewed for N days" | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | unless N > 180 or something | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | but anyways | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: min libvirt version | 14:26 |
| bauzas | could we rename that to 'conflicting reviews' ? | 14:26 |
| dansmith | that's different | 14:26 |
| dansmith | yeah | 14:26 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: the min libvirt version thing was old, removed it | 14:26 |
| dansmith | it was supposed to be to break ties | 14:26 |
| lxsli | "Reviews requiring mediation" | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: gotcha, probably my bad, I thought we sorted that already | 14:26 |
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| mriedem | i did add this https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/aggregate-network-filter | 14:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | lxsli: I quite like "mediation" actually | 14:27 |
| mriedem | does that require a spec? it's a new scheduler filter | 14:27 |
| mriedem | bauzas: ^ | 14:27 |
| bauzas | mriedem: the problem is that it needs to provide more to the scheduler than what's already in HostState | 14:27 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: here the proposal is to use filter_props, but since I'm working on RequestSpec, I'm a little worried by any impact it would cause | 14:28 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: oh, like it sends not just a list on instance uuids, but also networks? | 14:28 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: yup, it adds the networks list as part of the big filt_props blob | 14:29 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: so that's not technically bounded to what the Scheduler proposes | 14:29 |
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| bauzas | and that opens room for discussion | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: are you happy to write up a dev ref on how this is happening (or spec) in general? | 14:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: and maybe describe what sorts of features are blocked because of that work? | 14:30 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: yeah, that's an action I have to do (and you marked it as well :) | 14:30 |
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| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: yeah, put my name on that | 14:30 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: I think we need to just do this one first, explain why we can't do this right away, and what effort to help with to get there quicker | 14:31 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: totally agreed | 14:31 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: or find a mitigation plan | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | #action bauzas to describe what is blocking https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/aggregate-network-filter and how to help | 14:31 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: do we want a spec for the above blueprint, because of this? | 14:31 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: that's harsh to say, but I would at least be able to discuss on the format of that, since it needs to be backported to the RequestSpec object | 14:32 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: so I really would like to avoid non-typed, unformal dicts added to the already non-typed, unversioned dict that we have | 14:32 |
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| lxsli | sounds like a spec to me | 14:33 |
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| edleafe | +1 on a spec | 14:33 |
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| johnthetubaguy | OK, needs a spec as it needs new info | 14:33 |
| bauzas | well, at least we need to make sure that any change to filter_properties or request_spec is enough documented | 14:33 |
| bauzas | so yeah for a specc | 14:34 |
| bauzas | spec | 14:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | #info https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/aggregate-network-filter needs a spec because of the extra information that needs to be passed around | 14:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | sahid: you had a spec as well right? | 14:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | I mean, blueprint | 14:34 |
| sahid | johnthetubaguy: you mean the one i told before ? | 14:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | yep | 14:34 |
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| sahid | johnthetubaguy: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-set-admin-password | 14:35 |
| sahid | the last relase of libvirt provide the super to configure user password | 14:35 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sahid: so this is libvirt implementing the API xenapi already has? | 14:35 |
| sahid | and so the aim of the blueprint is to use it to implement the set_admin_password PAI | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | I guess this will require an in guest agent? | 14:36 |
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| mriedem | i see danpb has +2ed all of the changes w/o the blueprint being approved | 14:36 |
| sahid | hum... | 14:36 |
| sahid | what do you mean ? | 14:37 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185910/ | 14:37 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: yeah, I would think it would, if it's going to work online like the xenapi one does (right?) | 14:37 |
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| cfriesen | sahid: the two patches listed in the whiteboard already have +2 reviews from Daniel Berrange | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | so… sahid its not clear to me from the blueprint how it works | 14:38 |
| sahid | cfriesen: yes but we need to bp approval no? | 14:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | which seems problematic | 14:38 |
| sahid | ok so you need specific detail about how it works internally on libvirt? | 14:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | sahid: I need to be able to tell if it will appear the same to users as the xenapi support | 14:39 |
| mriedem | sahid: are the dependent patches in that series for the guest object tied to that blueprint as well? | 14:39 |
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| dansmith | sahid: is this supposed to work live, or only if the guest is off (or rebooted as part of this process) ? | 14:39 |
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| johnthetubaguy | OK… so given there are questions | 14:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | we need a spec for this | 14:40 |
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| johnthetubaguy | at least its the only other way we have of agreeing | 14:41 |
| sahid | johnthetubaguy: hum so the support is only for qemu | 14:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | I have -2ed the patches since the blueprint is not agreed | 14:41 |
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| cfriesen | sahid: this is using the existing set_admin_password() call? | 14:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | sahid: yeah, we need a spec to talk about all the details, it seems very unclear about what is going on I am afraid, like what image properties you need to make sure the API works, etc, etc | 14:41 |
| sahid | mriedem: well i have considered it was yes | 14:41 |
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| sahid | cfriesen: yes | 14:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | #action sahid to submit a spec for the blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-set-admin-password as its not clear how a user can use the feature from the spec, and it not clear its the same as the existing xenapi feature | 14:42 |
| sahid | johnthetubaguy: there is no need of image property actually this use a nova API already present | 14:43 |
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| sahid | johnthetubaguy: ack | 14:43 |
| markus_z | Is there a libvirt subteam? I see there are a lot of refactorings ongoing. It's not listed in the etherpad "liberty-nova-priorities-tracking" | 14:43 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sahid: so does this API work with all images that currently exist? | 14:43 |
| mriedem | markus_z: there used to be and had meetings but attendance dropped so danpb disbanded | 14:43 |
| sahid | the API (nova)is actually not really useful since we do not pass the user | 14:44 |
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| sahid | we consider we are using linux | 14:44 |
| sahid | so root | 14:44 |
| sahid | but we can have image with Windows | 14:44 |
| dansmith | well, it is setting the admin password, | 14:44 |
| markus_z | mriedem: OK | 14:44 |
| sahid | so that is why i have added the thing with image property | 14:44 |
| dansmith | which would be root on linux or administrator on windows | 14:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | sahid: the API resets root on linux, and administrator on linux, using an in guest agent, right now, anyways | 14:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | oops | 14:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | administrator on windows | 14:45 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: and live without a reboot, right? | 14:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | dansmith: yes | 14:45 |
| sahid | dansmith: yes | 14:45 |
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| dansmith | sahid: so this will require a qemu agent to be running in the guest to provide the same functionality, right? | 14:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | sahid: so how does it do it live? using an in guest agent right? | 14:45 |
| sahid | the image property things was for image with an other user than Administrator | 14:45 |
| sahid | johnthetubaguy: yes | 14:45 |
| sahid | i'm looking at the patch rieh now | 14:46 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sahid: so the API should return not implemented, or similar if there is no guest agent installed, like the xenapi one does? | 14:46 |
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| sahid | johnthetubaguy: yep i did not add the condition, this change is only for semu | 14:46 |
| sahid | qemu | 14:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | sahid: so thats inconsistent, feels like we need these details discussed in the spec | 14:46 |
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| sahid | johnthetubaguy: do you think i can just try to enhance the blueprint? | 14:47 |
| mriedem | no | 14:47 |
| mriedem | this needs a spec | 14:47 |
| sahid | then if that looks not good i will do the spec | 14:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | right, there is too much discussion here for the blueprint to work | 14:47 |
| dansmith | +1 for spec | 14:47 |
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| sahid | ok so go for the spec | 14:47 |
| sahid | thank you guys | 14:47 |
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| mriedem | i also want to know about testing since we have a newer libvirt in the fc21 job but i don't think it's this new | 14:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | #info agreed this really needs a spec https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/libvirt-set-admin-password | 14:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: +1 | 14:48 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: yeah | 14:48 |
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| johnthetubaguy | OK, cools | 14:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | any more for any more? | 14:48 |
| dansmith | mriedem: this seems to add another moving part, so would really like to see it *actually* tested for sure | 14:48 |
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| mnestratov | we would like to make our pcs6 CI system comment on kilo/stable https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/Parallels_PCS6_CI | 14:48 |
| abhishekk | johnthetubaguy and community members please provide your valuable feedback on nova-specs, https://review.openstack.org/135387 | 14:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | abhishekk: its in the review queue, its going to take a little while to get through the backlog post summit | 14:49 |
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| mriedem | mnestratov: why stable? | 14:49 |
| mriedem | why not master? | 14:49 |
| abhishekk | johnthetubaguy: thank you for the update | 14:49 |
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| mriedem | let's just agree that we'll never do anything about the performance of the unshelve API :) | 14:50 |
| mriedem | early mark? | 14:50 |
| mnestratov | actually we are in the process to building next version of our product for master | 14:50 |
| mriedem | mnestratov: let's talk about it in -nova | 14:50 |
| mnestratov | so master a bit later with a next version | 14:51 |
| mnestratov | ok | 14:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool, so we are done then | 14:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | thanks all | 14:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | #endmeeting | 14:51 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 28 14:51:25 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2015/nova.2015-05-28-14.02.html | 14:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2015/nova.2015-05-28-14.02.txt | 14:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2015/nova.2015-05-28-14.02.log.html | 14:51 |
| baoli | johnthetubaguy: a quick question about the pep8 check in nova. Neutron runs pylint as part of its pep8 check. Would this be useful for nova as well | 14:51 |
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| dansmith | baoli: no | 14:52 |
| baoli | dansmith, any specific reason? | 14:52 |
| dansmith | baoli: pylint is utterly confused about our objects. we used to have that job and we removed it because it was just failbait and didn't give us anything useful | 14:52 |
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| baoli | dansmith: ok, thanks. | 14:52 |
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| stevemar | o/ | 19:01 |
| dtroyer | o/ | 19:01 |
| stevemar | dtroyer, ? | 19:01 |
| stevemar | oh hai | 19:01 |
| stevemar | courtesy pings: dtroyer, dhellmann, stevemar, briancurtin, terrylhowe, lhcheng, sigmavirus24 | 19:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | oh right | 19:01 |
| dtroyer | beat me to it | 19:01 |
| sigmavirus24 | this still isn't on my calendar | 19:01 |
| * sigmavirus24 fixes that | 19:01 | |
| stevemar | sigmavirus24, get with the program! | 19:01 |
| stevemar | :) | 19:01 |
| briancurtin | in another meeting, nothing to add at the moment right now anyway but i'll lurk | 19:01 |
| stevemar | shame abhide isn't online, he's been doing quite a few fixes lately | 19:02 |
| dtroyer | I don't know if we have a quorum, but let's start anyway… | 19:02 |
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| dtroyer | #startmeeting OpenStackClient | 19:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 28 19:02:58 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtroyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStackClient)" | 19:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstackclient' | 19:03 |
| terrylhowe | o/ | 19:03 |
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| dtroyer | Agenda is at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/OpenStackClient#28_May_2015 | 19:03 |
| dtroyer | pretty light | 19:03 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 19:03 |
| stevemar | i will tack on something at the end | 19:03 |
| dtroyer | #topic open actions | 19:03 |
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| dtroyer | I don't think we had any from before the summit, were there things from the summit that we should note here? | 19:04 |
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| stevemar | 'open actions' is weird | 19:05 |
| stevemar | we need to fix the bug in 1.3.0 | 19:05 |
| dtroyer | yeah, ok, let's move on, we'll do a summit recap in a bit | 19:05 |
| dtroyer | the test bug? | 19:05 |
| stevemar | yeah, thats probably better | 19:05 |
| stevemar | hmm, no, it's cliff related | 19:05 |
| terrylhowe | namespace.debug? | 19:06 |
| stevemar | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1459519 | 19:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1459519 in cliff "ERROR: openstack 'ArgumentParser' object has no attribute 'debug'" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Terry Howe (thowe-g) | 19:06 |
| stevemar | yep | 19:06 |
| dtroyer | ok, let's jump to bugs then | 19:06 |
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| terrylhowe | well, there is a pbr issue there as well | 19:06 |
| dtroyer | #topic bugs | 19:06 |
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| sigmavirus24 | terrylhowe: which pbr issue? 1.0.x releases? | 19:06 |
| terrylhowe | yeh, osc requires <2 and some dependencies require <1 | 19:06 |
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| terrylhowe | I’m not sure what the fix is, get oslo.config and stevedore to cut new releases or something else | 19:07 |
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| dtroyer | heh, IIRC the deps need to get fixed. I think they were getting done as issues came up | 19:07 |
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| dhellmann | there are a couple of ways to deal with the requirements issue, and we'll be doing some oslo releases next week that should help | 19:08 |
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| dims_ | ++ dhellmann | 19:08 |
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| dhellmann | in the mean time if we tell pkg_resources not to check requirements when it loads plugins, that should also help | 19:08 |
| dhellmann | stevemar: I can't reproduce the bug as reported | 19:09 |
| dtroyer | I didn't see it either yesterday | 19:09 |
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| stevemar | dhellmann, thats a good thing then | 19:09 |
| dtroyer | trying again now | 19:09 |
| dhellmann | stevemar: is the plugin in question third-party? | 19:09 |
| dhellmann | the error looks like not | 19:09 |
| stevemar | doesn't look like it | 19:09 |
| sigmavirus24 | dhellmann: doesn't stevedore already handle this by default? | 19:10 |
| dhellmann | it does, though I'm not sure we're using stevedore everywhere in cliff | 19:10 |
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| dhellmann | cliff's command manager was a special case at one point | 19:10 |
| dhellmann | terrylhowe's fix in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186394/1 looks simple enough, but it's failing some test jobs | 19:11 |
| terrylhowe | those problems are related to test_shell which is another review | 19:11 |
| dhellmann | ah, ok | 19:11 |
| dtroyer | which is about to merge | 19:11 |
| dtroyer | so is the pkg_resources thing something we can do in OSC? I'm still a bit ignorant on that stuff | 19:12 |
| stevemar | on the + side, it seems like we didn't break the gate | 19:13 |
| dhellmann | dtroyer: let me peek at that code again, sec | 19:13 |
| dhellmann | dtroyer: it looks like maybe we can | 19:14 |
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| dhellmann | this section: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/cliff/tree/cliff/commandmanager.py#n80 | 19:14 |
| dhellmann | should look more like: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186111/1/novaclient/auth_plugin.py,cm | 19:15 |
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| dhellmann | I have a video meeting starting soon or I would put the patch together myself, but I can do it after that if no one beats me to it | 19:15 |
| dtroyer | I'll take a stab at it after we're done here, may need your help/ | 19:16 |
| dtroyer | thanks dhellmann | 19:16 |
| dhellmann | come to think of it, I think the feature stevedore is missing is a "load on use" flag, so I'll make a note of that and then we can move cliff to using it | 19:16 |
| dtroyer | in other bug news, my new shell tests got a bit aggressive and o-c-c changed out from under them. | 19:17 |
| stevemar | \o/ | 19:17 |
| dtroyer | terrylhowe put up https://review.openstack.org/186484 which is about to merge and should unblock us | 19:17 |
| dtroyer | the tests need to be moved out of unit test, which of course I didn't do last week | 19:18 |
| stevemar | should we do something more proactive about it? or just depend on occ? | 19:18 |
| dhellmann | can we add some test fixtures to occ like we do with some of the oslo libs? | 19:19 |
| terrylhowe | occ is family, so it seems to me we should depend on it | 19:19 |
| dtroyer | they are really integration/functional tests to make sure we don't break things in the CLI/ENV/conf parsing | 19:19 |
| stevemar | we could always just deal with breakage as it occurs... i dont think it'll happen often | 19:19 |
| dtroyer | so in a sense, it worked, but in a place not intended | 19:19 |
| stevemar | thats a lot of opinions :P | 19:19 |
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| terrylhowe | I would think occ would stablize there isn’t much to it | 19:20 |
| stevemar | dtroyer, we have a functional test suite, we could make them functional tests | 19:20 |
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| terrylhowe | I think some additional functional tests testing —os-cloud etc would definitely be a good idea | 19:20 |
| stevemar | ++ | 19:20 |
| dtroyer | stevemar: right, and that is my plan, but they probably are even more than that as I want to keep cliff and occ in the loop instead of mocking them out or something | 19:20 |
| dtroyer | dhellmann: re occ tests, we certainly could add stuff there too, it's light | 19:21 |
| dhellmann | right, so we either want testing with the real thing or with fixtures provided by those libraries where the API breaks can be prevented through tests upstream | 19:21 |
| dhellmann | the idea is to move any setup that uses occ out of the osc tests and into a fixture that those tests can use, but make the fixture live in occ where the local tests can detect breaks | 19:22 |
| dhellmann | we do that with oslo.config, for example | 19:22 |
| dtroyer | right. will catch up to that then | 19:23 |
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| dtroyer | so, any other bugs anyone wants to highlight here? | 19:23 |
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| stevemar | we partially fixed the glance v2 set/create bug... | 19:24 |
| stevemar | https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1405562 | 19:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1405562 in python-openstackclient "add support for v2 image create/update commands" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Amey Bhide (abhide) | 19:24 |
| dtroyer | set only, right? | 19:24 |
| stevemar | the bug is for set and create | 19:24 |
| stevemar | amey did set | 19:25 |
| dtroyer | they're so close, between v1 create and v2 set it should almost write itself | 19:25 |
| stevemar | was wondering if we should split it into 2 bugs, and close on the 'update' change | 19:25 |
| stevemar | maybe if i'm not so lazy i'll try and do v2 create | 19:25 |
| dtroyer | If Amey is planning to do create I think leaving it is fine | 19:25 |
| dtroyer | I don't have a strong opinion there | 19:26 |
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| stevemar | thats fine, was more of a heads up that we might have parity soon | 19:26 |
| stevemar | yay | 19:26 |
| stevemar | he's also working on the cinder v2 commands | 19:26 |
| dtroyer | yup, was just about to mention that | 19:26 |
| stevemar | eventually i want to talk about plugins and such, but change #topic first :P | 19:27 |
| dtroyer | ok | 19:27 |
| dtroyer | #topic steve and plugins | 19:28 |
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| dtroyer | go | 19:28 |
| stevemar | hooray | 19:28 |
| stevemar | looks like magnum is now on board with using osc plugins too | 19:28 |
| stevemar | as per the ML | 19:28 |
| stevemar | but they're having trouble with naming conventions | 19:28 |
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| stevemar | as container is also used by swift :( | 19:29 |
| stevemar | and 'service' | 19:29 |
| dtroyer | they may have to go to multi-word object names | 19:29 |
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| stevemar | also i think the heat team is looking to make osc plugins too. they already have code proposed to osc, so they are on the right path | 19:30 |
| dtroyer | we are going to have to namespace as the number of projects grows | 19:30 |
| spzala | stevemar: we will start working soon too on plugin for heat-translator to make it available during Liberty release | 19:30 |
| dtroyer | I don't like the way congress did it but don't have a better idea yet | 19:30 |
| stevemar | spzala, right, thats the other one | 19:30 |
| spzala | Yup | 19:31 |
| stevemar | dtroyer, theres another project under the heat umbrella called 'heat-translator' which has a simple CLI right now | 19:31 |
| stevemar | think it makes sense for that to become as osc plugin too? | 19:31 |
| stevemar | (i actually told spzala yes already so don't make me look silly) | 19:31 |
| dtroyer | another option I threw out in a ML thread yesterday is to make creating top-level command names easier. it would essentially re-cycle shell.py but be called something else | 19:32 |
| sigmavirus24 | stevemar: I'm going to say "No", just to make you look silly | 19:32 |
| spzala | to get started on plugin, is the best way is to look at existing plugin or is there a doc out there? Seeing comment from dtroyer seems like there are multiple ways to create plugin? | 19:32 |
| stevemar | sigmavirus24, nooo | 19:32 |
| spzala | stevemar: :-) | 19:32 |
| dtroyer | I'm going to say "abstain" because I haven't looked at its scope yet | 19:32 |
| stevemar | spzala, http://docs.openstack.org/developer/python-openstackclient/plugins.html | 19:32 |
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| dtroyer | btw, I started a cookiecutter template for building these things on the plane home, it lies yet unfinished | 19:33 |
| spzala | stevemar: cool, thanks. that's the one I was looking just now. | 19:33 |
| dtroyer | is that a big enough deal I should move it up the list? | 19:33 |
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| stevemar | dtroyer, what will the cookie cutter do? | 19:33 |
| dtroyer | because I suspect many projects ill put their osc plugin bits directly into ther client lib | 19:33 |
| dtroyer | basically it sets up an empty osc-plugin repo | 19:34 |
| stevemar | probably a good idea | 19:34 |
| dtroyer | https://github.com/dtroyer/osc-plugin | 19:34 |
| dhellmann | nice | 19:34 |
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| dtroyer | ok, Ill try to get it functional soon | 19:34 |
| terrylhowe | how do you want handle that, bring it in as an osc project? | 19:35 |
| dhellmann | the namespacing issue is tough. I don't like including project names either, but ensuring everyone picks nice descriptive names for nouns is also hard | 19:35 |
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| stevemar | terrylhowe, bring it under the openstackclient umbrella | 19:35 |
| dhellmann | terrylhowe: that makes sense | 19:35 |
| dtroyer | terrylhowe: the cookiecutter template? that was my thought | 19:35 |
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| terrylhowe | cool | 19:35 |
| * dtroyer types slow | 19:35 | |
| dtroyer | any more on plugins? | 19:36 |
| stevemar | y, one more thing | 19:36 |
| stevemar | does the client have to list osc in requirements.txt? | 19:36 |
| stevemar | a client that wants to create an osc plugin? | 19:36 |
| spzala | dtroyer: nice (looking at github link) | 19:37 |
| dtroyer | no, because it isn't a requirement | 19:37 |
| dtroyer | if the plugin is in with a lib it should still be able to stand alone | 19:37 |
| dtroyer | of course the plugin code is unused | 19:37 |
| dtroyer | it's project choice though | 19:37 |
| stevemar | ah, but if osc is installed, it'll automagically pick up the plugins? | 19:37 |
| dtroyer | yes | 19:37 |
| dhellmann | stevemar: no, we don't want clients listing osc as a requirement | 19:38 |
| dhellmann | stevemar: and yes | 19:38 |
| * dhellmann types slower than dtroyer | 19:38 | |
| stevemar | if osc is installed first, then some client is installed, it'll still work out automagically? | 19:38 |
| stevemar | s/client/plugin/ | 19:38 |
| dtroyer | yup, osc scans the entry points at runtime | 19:38 |
| stevemar | thats neat | 19:38 |
| stevemar | spzala, hope that answers a question you had ^ | 19:38 |
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| stevemar | it also makes finding out which projects use osc plugins harder :) | 19:39 |
| stevemar | was hoping to just scan req.txt | 19:39 |
| dtroyer | if you are already looking in the repo, look in setup.cfg | 19:39 |
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| dhellmann | stevemar: we can look in setup.cfg for the namespace for our plugins | 19:39 |
| stevemar | ++ | 19:39 |
| spzala | stevemar: nice, yep. | 19:39 |
| stevemar | next topic | 19:39 |
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| dtroyer | #topic summit recap | 19:40 |
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| * stevemar just realized congressclient doesn't package their own shell \o/ | 19:41 | |
| dtroyer | I made a summary of the etherpads and didn't paste it anywhere yet… | 19:41 |
| dtroyer | the highlights are… | 19:41 |
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| dtroyer | we confirmed that the backport policy is only critical bugs | 19:42 |
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| dtroyer | we confirmed that vendor-specific network commands will be plugins and not in the OSC repo | 19:42 |
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| dtroyer | caching: auth cache to be triggered out of ksa | 19:43 |
| dtroyer | suggested to use requests-cache for data caching, needs investigation | 19:44 |
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| dtroyer | I'll do that if nobody else really had a need to jump on it | 19:44 |
| stevemar | dtroyer, i think sigmavirus24 could be helpful there :P | 19:45 |
| * stevemar throws ian under the bus | 19:45 | |
| sigmavirus24 | oh don't use requests-cache | 19:45 |
| * dtroyer secret plot for help is exposed ;) | 19:45 | |
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| sigmavirus24 | cachecontrol is the only library that requests recommends | 19:45 |
| sigmavirus24 | It's used with a lot of success by pip | 19:45 |
| stevemar | Zucan, was in -sdks looking for osc help, i dragged him here | 19:46 |
| dtroyer | ok, I'll look at cachecontrol first then | 19:46 |
| Zucan | Thank you... wasn't looking for help, just looking for best way to "plugin into the process" :) | 19:46 |
| dtroyer | Zucan: welcome | 19:47 |
| stevemar | looking to test out new features or help with some dev? :) | 19:47 |
| sigmavirus24 | Zucan: step 1: get surgery to add an RJ45 jack to your brain ;) | 19:47 |
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| dtroyer | resuming summary… | 19:47 |
| Zucan | stevemar: probably a little of both, though, likely more on testing side. I attended some of the openstack client worksessions on Friday at the summit (morning time) | 19:47 |
| stevemar | dtroyer, resume away | 19:49 |
| dtroyer | agreed to rename project to 'OpenStackClient' (lowercase the package name) at 2.x release; conflicts with renaming comamnd to 'os' or 'osc' noted, we will not rename the command | 19:49 |
| dtroyer | pip namespace already reserved | 19:49 |
| dtroyer | er, pypi | 19:49 |
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| stevemar | ++ i had a private git repo with everything renamed | 19:49 |
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| stevemar | but i suspect it's crazy out of date now | 19:50 |
| dtroyer | talked about the sdk migration, strong preference to do it bits at a time rather than a big-switch | 19:50 |
| dtroyer | I don't recall a firm decision on that requiring a major version bump, seems like it owuld at some point to me, we can work that out when we actually have that problem | 19:51 |
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| dtroyer | A list of known projects with OSC plugins is now in the docs. | 19:52 |
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| dtroyer | There were also some comments from nkinder regarding domain-related usability | 19:52 |
| terrylhowe | ksa might be on the roadmap | 19:53 |
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| dtroyer | IIRC the main thing is using names where IDs are required now, that will take a series of changes across multiple projects | 19:53 |
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| dtroyer | terrylhowe: thanks. we talked about the layering of osc/occ/ksa in the work session a good bit | 19:54 |
| dtroyer | I didnt' take notes, what is in the etherpad is basically what I remember, we need to look at a couple of ways to layer these three | 19:55 |
| dtroyer | also from that session was the precedence discussion between cli options, environment variables and config file settings. | 19:56 |
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| dtroyer | we will use that order | 19:56 |
| dtroyer | and we're nearly out of time so I'll stop, that's the big stuff | 19:56 |
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| dtroyer | except for whatever I missed ;) | 19:56 |
| dtroyer | so what did I miss? | 19:56 |
| stevemar | think you got it all | 19:56 |
| stevemar | and neutron | 19:57 |
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| terrylhowe | covered all tthe big points I think | 19:57 |
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| terrylhowe | I’ll get back on neutron soon I’d expect | 19:57 |
| dtroyer | cool. I'd hoped for that to just start with the sdk and not use neutronclient any more | 19:58 |
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| terrylhowe | yeh, I’m going to give that a shot | 19:58 |
| dtroyer | great, thanks | 19:58 |
| dtroyer | #topic open discussion | 19:58 |
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| dtroyer | two minutes left... | 19:59 |
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| dtroyer | terrylhowe: looks like your fix got things moving again, we can recheck the failed reviews from last night | 20:00 |
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| terrylhowe | cool | 20:00 |
| dtroyer | and with that, thanks everyone! | 20:01 |
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| dtroyer | #endmeeting | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 28 20:01:06 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2015/openstackclient.2015-05-28-19.02.html | 20:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2015/openstackclient.2015-05-28-19.02.txt | 20:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2015/openstackclient.2015-05-28-19.02.log.html | 20:01 |
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| mtreinish | #startmeeting qa | 22:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 28 22:01:34 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mtreinish. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 22:01 |
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| mtreinish | hi, who's around for the meeting today? | 22:01 |
| masayukig | o/ | 22:02 |
| rockyg | o/ | 22:02 |
| mtreinish | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Proposed_Agenda_for_May_28th_2015_.282200_UTC.29 | 22:02 |
| mtreinish | ^^^ today's agenda | 22:02 |
| mtreinish | basically boilerplate this week | 22:02 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz, dtroyer, jogo: around? | 22:03 |
| dkranz | 0/ | 22:04 |
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| mtreinish | ok, let's get started | 22:04 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Specs Reviews | 22:04 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone have any open specs reviews to discuss? | 22:05 |
| mtreinish | I put one on the agenda, but we can get to that after/if there are any others | 22:05 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: not from me. I posted an update of the tempest config script | 22:06 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: that spec should maybe be updated as well | 22:06 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: on that spec? or the script itself? | 22:06 |
| mtreinish | ah, ok | 22:06 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: yeah we probably should update the spec too | 22:06 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: let's see if we can get to resolution on the patch and then I"ll update the spec | 22:07 |
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| mtreinish | ok | 22:07 |
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| mtreinish | kinda backwards, but whatever :) | 22:07 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: well, the high-level is still the same. Just some choices are made in the patch. | 22:07 |
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| mtreinish | heh, ok sure. I was just kidding :) | 22:08 |
| mtreinish | well I guess we'll talk about my spec on the agenda now: | 22:08 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/184992 | 22:08 |
| mtreinish | that's the 2nd time around on the plugin interface spec | 22:08 |
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| mtreinish | I'd appreciate if people had any thoughts on it | 22:09 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: some one said mkoderer had already put up something in manila that uses it | 22:09 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: I like it. | 22:09 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: There are some technical details about setuptools and the like that I am not an expert on | 22:09 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: yeah we can ask dhellmann about the stevedore and entry point little details, but at the high level it should work like that | 22:10 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: right, the implied and stated requirements seem right | 22:10 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: yeah mkoderer already has a bp up on the manila side to use this (once it's ready) | 22:11 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: I"ll take a look | 22:11 |
| mtreinish | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/manila/+spec/tempest-plugin-interface | 22:11 |
| masayukig | mtreinish, mkoderer : great! | 22:12 |
| dkranz | Is there some work I could help with to move stuff into tempest lib? We don't have a real task list for that. | 22:13 |
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| mtreinish | I expect the code side for the actual plugin handling won't be too difficult once we have a tempest run command in place (which is the bigger blocker for this) | 22:13 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: hmm, we started to list a few of the items on the priorties session etherpad | 22:13 |
| mtreinish | but other than that there isn't a complete list | 22:13 |
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| mtreinish | that's probably something we should work on | 22:14 |
| mtreinish | you should ask mkoderer what are the bits from tempest that he's still importing in manila | 22:14 |
| mtreinish | because that'll be a good starting point | 22:14 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: yes, and I will ping david patterson and see if he can move along with the cmd stuff | 22:14 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: good idea | 22:14 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: oh, that was the next spec I was going to bring up | 22:14 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/138785 | 22:15 |
| mtreinish | it's getting there there were just a few little issues with it to fix before we can merge it I feel | 22:15 |
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| mtreinish | feel free to pile on that review so dpaterson doesn't have to do multiple revs :) | 22:15 |
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| dkranz | yup | 22:16 |
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| dkranz | Looks like cliff does most of the work | 22:16 |
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| mtreinish | yep | 22:16 |
| dkranz | nice | 22:16 |
| mtreinish | ok, is there anything else to discuss on specs? | 22:17 |
| dkranz | not from me | 22:18 |
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| mtreinish | ok, then let's move on | 22:18 |
| mtreinish | #topic Blueprints | 22:19 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone have any open BPs that they'd like to bring up? | 22:19 |
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| mtreinish | I did update the tempest launchpad to add liberty, the target milestone dates, and switched it to the active dev branch | 22:21 |
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| mtreinish | because someone pointed out that was missing last week | 22:21 |
| mtreinish | ok if there isn't anything else I guess we can move on | 22:21 |
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| mtreinish | #topic DevStack | 22:22 |
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| mtreinish | dtroyer: around? | 22:22 |
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| mtreinish | I guess not :) | 22:23 |
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| mtreinish | I don't have anything on devstack this week | 22:23 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone have anything to bring up about devstack? | 22:23 |
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| mtreinish | ok, then let's move on | 22:25 |
| mtreinish | #topic Grenade | 22:25 |
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| mtreinish | jogo: around? | 22:25 |
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| mtreinish | the only grenade thing I have this week is sdague's patch to add the external plugin support to grenade | 22:25 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/185050 | 22:26 |
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| mtreinish | that'll be good to get eyes on | 22:26 |
| mtreinish | although, I haven't had a chance to look at it yet :) | 22:26 |
| mtreinish | fwiw, it looks short :) | 22:27 |
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| mtreinish | ok, does anyone have anything else on grenade? | 22:27 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: well, the periodic jobs still fail. NOt sure if that is related. | 22:27 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: I asked about it on #infra but didn't get a response | 22:28 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz: yeah that's kinda unrelated | 22:28 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: ok, later | 22:28 |
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| mtreinish | I talked to fungi about it briefly at summit | 22:28 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: I verified that our periodic jobs, and only those, have the error | 22:29 |
| mtreinish | from what I saw it looks like devstack dir isn't where it's expected to be on the periodic jobs only | 22:29 |
| mtreinish | so it's either a bug in devstack-gate or the job definition for those | 22:29 |
| mtreinish | since the nodepool image should be the same | 22:29 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: yeah | 22:29 |
| mtreinish | although that would still be weird because the bits should be the same for periodic and regular jobs | 22:29 |
| mtreinish | I haven't had a chance to dig any further than that though | 22:30 |
| mtreinish | ok if there isn't anything else on grenade let's move on | 22:31 |
| mtreinish | #topic Bugs | 22:31 |
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| mtreinish | I don't have anything to discuss on bugs this week | 22:31 |
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| mtreinish | although I expect our new bug count has grown a bit in the past couple of weeks | 22:32 |
| mtreinish | we probably should start getting better about the triage rotations again | 22:32 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone else have anything to discuss about bugs? | 22:32 |
| dkranz | no | 22:33 |
| mtreinish | heh, ok | 22:33 |
| mtreinish | then let's move on | 22:33 |
| mtreinish | #topic Critical Reviews | 22:33 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone have any reviews to bring up that could use some additional eyes? | 22:34 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/170272 | 22:34 |
| mtreinish | should be a quick one, to switch tempest-lib over to using os-testr | 22:35 |
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| mtreinish | the tempest patch doing the same I need to rebase, but that should be up soonish | 22:35 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/170270 | 22:35 |
| mtreinish | any other reviews? | 22:36 |
| dkranz | I'll take a look at that | 22:36 |
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| mtreinish | at least on the tempest side it'll be partially superseded by the tempest cli | 22:37 |
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| mtreinish | I expect we'll change the tox job definitions to use tempest run when that's available | 22:37 |
| dkranz | maybe entirely superseded | 22:37 |
| dkranz | is there something in os-testr that is not expected in 'tempest run'? | 22:37 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: not really, I just don't want to break people who are used to the traditional run model | 22:38 |
| mtreinish | also we'll still need os-testr to pull in subunit-trace | 22:38 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: which run model? | 22:38 |
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| mtreinish | dkranz: the way you use tempest now, just calling the test runner on a raw checkout | 22:38 |
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| mtreinish | that should still work even if we move everything to default to use the cli and system program default | 22:39 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: the package yes, but I'm wondering if we should introduce a new way to run if we are shortly going to recommend another new way? | 22:39 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: there are people (like me) who often use pretty_tox | 22:40 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: it's not really a new way. I don't know of anyone who uses pretty_tox.sh directly, it's not something that's really user facing | 22:40 |
| mtreinish | (well jgriffith did for a while but that was a bug on his end :) ) | 22:40 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: It depends on if you are using tox or not | 22:41 |
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| dkranz | mtreinish: anyway, not a big deal. I'll comment in the review | 22:41 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: ok, thanks | 22:41 |
| mtreinish | ok, are there any other reviews to bring up? | 22:42 |
| mtreinish | ok, then let's open the floor | 22:43 |
| mtreinish | #topic Open Discussion | 22:43 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: qa)" | 22:43 | |
| mtreinish | ok, are there any topics people wish to discuss which weren't on the agenda | 22:43 |
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| masayukig | nothing from me at this time :-) | 22:44 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: just the periodic thing | 22:44 |
| mtreinish | dkranz: ok, yeah that's something to fix. But, I don't have anymore details on it right now | 22:44 |
| dkranz | mtreinish: ok | 22:45 |
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| mtreinish | ok, if there's nothing else let's end for today | 22:45 |
| mtreinish | thanks everyone | 22:45 |
| mtreinish | #endmeeting | 22:45 |
| masayukig | thanks | 22:45 |
| rockyg | thanks! | 22:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 28 22:45:54 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2015/qa.2015-05-28-22.01.html | 22:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2015/qa.2015-05-28-22.01.txt | 22:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2015/qa.2015-05-28-22.01.log.html | 22:46 |
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