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| johnthetubaguy | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 9 14:00:12 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| andreykurilin | hi! | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:00 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
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| alaski | o/ | 14:00 |
| dansmith | o/ | 14:00 |
| jaypipes | .........o/ | 14:00 |
| sahid | o/ | 14:00 |
| bauzas | \o | 14:00 |
| abhishekk | o/ | 14:00 |
| n0ano | o/ | 14:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Release Status | 14:00 |
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| alex_xu | o/ | 14:00 |
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| mriedem | o/ | 14:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | #info tomorrow is: July 10: non-priority feature review bash day | 14:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/068815.html | 14:00 |
| edleafe | o/ | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | so this is a new one I dreamt up a when I started writing out the date list | 14:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | is everyone cool with the plan for tomorrow's review day? | 14:01 |
| bauzas | wondering if we could provide a dashboard | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | try get some of the low priority blueprints that are all up for review sorted | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | so I made a list in the usual review etherpad | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:02 |
| jaypipes | johnthetubaguy: sure. | 14:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: a dashboard would be nice, I haven't had chance beyond the above list | 14:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | there are some funky stats here: http://reviews.johnthetubaguy.com | 14:03 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I made one for the NFV work group, maybe we can just change the list for that one ? | 14:03 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: if you have the time, that would be cool | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | so the next thing | 14:03 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #info Next deadline: July 16: non-priority feature proposal freeze | 14:03 |
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| claudiub | o/ | 14:04 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: will ping you offline | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats the, please put your blueprint into the NeedsCodeReview state, else I unapproved your non-priority blueprint thing | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, probably more importantly, get your code up for review date | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | I can send a horrific bloodbath on the friday, but it is really helping to get the priority stuff the attention it needs | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, so blueprint exceptions | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | basically, the deadline has passed, an the extention has past | 14:05 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #info priority specs can still merge for now | 14:05 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #info we can merge bug fix specs, but lets bring them up in the nova-meeting to discuss | 14:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so we had a spec added to the agenda | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | Review for Improve performance of unshelve api, https://review.openstack.org/135387 | 14:06 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I know alaski has done some great reviews on that one | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | alaski: is that anywhere close to a merge? | 14:06 |
| abhishekk | johnthetubaguy: I have impelemented andrew's comments | 14:06 |
| alaski | johnthetubaguy: I need to go through it again | 14:07 |
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| dansmith | looks like mriedem has questions | 14:07 |
| alaski | it looks much cleaner than last time at least | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | alaski: yes please | 14:07 |
| neiljerram | johnthetubaguy: For tomorrow, are you talking about code reviews? (As opposed to specs?) | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | this was a spec, it got on the agenda | 14:07 |
| abhishekk | dansmith: I will answer it asap | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | so we may have to move this to the backlog | 14:07 |
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| johnthetubaguy | it feels way too late at this point, sadly | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | but lets catch up offline about all that | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Bugs | 14:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:08 | |
| johnthetubaguy | any bug things people want to raise? | 14:08 |
| abhishekk | johnthetubaguy: I am ready with everything | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | stable branch stuff, etc | 14:08 |
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| bauzas | no criticals AFAIK | 14:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | I see one critial bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1469865 | 14:09 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1469865 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "oslo.versionedobjects breaks nova/cinder tests" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Victor Stinner (victor-stinner) | 14:09 |
| bauzas | neither nova nor the client | 14:09 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: that's old | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: should we just remove nova from the impact list? | 14:09 |
| mriedem | i'll peek at it | 14:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: sweet, thank you | 14:09 |
| bauzas | I thought it was merged for Nova ? | 14:09 |
| dansmith | yes, remove it | 14:09 |
| bauzas | hence my point about non criticals | 14:10 |
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| mriedem | it was reverted from ovo | 14:10 |
| mriedem | removed nova | 14:10 |
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| bauzas | coolness | 14:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | cool, sounds like that all the bug stuff for this week? | 14:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #topic Regular Reminders | 14:11 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | so this is not working as well as I was hoping | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | the idea was we get more review attention on the stuff the subteams say are the most important | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | now we don't have a way to track this | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | but folks don't seem to be feeling much difference right now | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | but lets keeps trying, while we don't have tags in gerrit | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | #info please do try review things on the priority tracking etherpad | 14:12 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I suspect the list has got so long no one gets to the bottom any more | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, ideas welcome | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | will review progress at the midcylce on summit actions, lets try follow through on our promises here: | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/YVR-nova-liberty-summit-action-items | 14:13 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: how about deleting completed items? They seem to be noise | 14:13 |
| edleafe | move 'em to the bottom if we need them for tracking | 14:13 |
| mriedem | s/delete/move to archive section or something/ | 14:13 |
| mriedem | yeah, move to bottom | 14:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: mriedem: sounds like a plan | 14:13 |
| mriedem | where is kanban.openstack.org?! | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | I have a feeling we were thinking of just deleting | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: quite, phabricator is being tested I am told | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | I don't think I got the spelling correct, but its like that | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | no stuck reviews today, so... | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Open Discussion | 14:14 |
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| johnthetubaguy | we have lots of items on the agenda | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | so lets chew through those first please | 14:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | naturally half of them I wrote, sorry about tht | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | #info Please share midcyle ideas: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-midcycle | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | so its almost midcylce time | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: do we know the final number of registered folks now? | 14:15 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: i haven't checked my email yet | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | please do add ideas above | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: no worries | 14:16 |
| mriedem | mikal is TBD | 14:16 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so the next few things are cross project things folks might be interested in | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | there is a request id thing for python-novaclient being discussed here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156508/16/specs/return-request-id.rst,cm | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | eventlet things are being written up here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/154642/2/specs/eventlet-best-practices.rst,cm | 14:17 |
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| johnthetubaguy | API WG stuff is here: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/068682.html | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | we had an email from mlavalle to help with cells support and neutron | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think we have some neutron folks at the midcycle | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | alaski: have these folks reached out to your about cells already? | 14:18 |
| alaski | mlavalle has, he attended the cells meeting yesterday | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | awesome-ness | 14:18 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so I think this is one mriedem added: | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | metadata service API change for adding instance.project_id - needs a spec? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197185/ | 14:19 |
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| mriedem | yeah, it's a simple change, | 14:19 |
| mriedem | we said it needs a bp but not sure about a spec | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | so the metadata service is a public rest API, I think | 14:19 |
| mriedem | it's the metadata service api which has a versoin in it, and that change updates the version | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | and we said those need specs | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | but yeah, it seems a simple change | 14:20 |
| mriedem | the interesting thing will be the versions have always been based on release dates | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/instance-id-in-metadata | 14:20 |
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| mriedem | unlike microversions that are just a number at the time of merge | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, its a little nasty combined with releasing every commit | 14:20 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I think its always been very close to the ec2 style API | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | its probably something that needs some love | 14:21 |
| mriedem | the date could just be whatever the change is | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | but it seems wrong to block someone following the existing pattern | 14:21 |
| mriedem | it doesn't need to be a variable called LIBERTY | 14:21 |
| mriedem | it could be a var that describes the change for that version | 14:21 |
| mriedem | but we're saying spec? | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: true, it just each version is generated with you generate config drive, so that might get a bit much | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | not sure, I think a quick spec would be following policy | 14:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | but it seems a simple change | 14:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyone got a strong vote one way or the other? | 14:22 |
| mriedem | does a spec put this in limbo? | 14:22 |
| mriedem | or does it get an exception? | 14:22 |
| mriedem | note that i don't have a horse in this race, just wondering about process | 14:22 |
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| sahid | don't think we need spec we can talk about that on the code reviews as we will do with the spec | 14:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | so in theory, we could call it a bug, so it gets an exception | 14:22 |
| garyk | mriedem: i would hope that things like this which are importnat could get an exception | 14:23 |
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| mriedem | it's not really a bug though | 14:23 |
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| mriedem | i'm definitely in favor of a bp | 14:23 |
| garyk | agree, its a feature | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, so anyone against just approved the blueprint | 14:23 |
| sahid | +1 | 14:23 |
| mriedem | +1 to approve | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am trying to remember about project vs tenant and where our API sits with that | 14:23 |
| edleafe | yeah, +1 | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | Ok, so thats an approve then I guess | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | so a heads up about things I promised to do after the summit | 14:25 |
| alex_xu | as I remember we use project | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | we have the start of a wiki page on mentoring: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Mentoring | 14:25 |
| bauzas | yep, 'project' | 14:25 |
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| johnthetubaguy | we also have some more details on why our current process is the way it is: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Liberty_Release_Schedule | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | so I plan to move them to devref | 14:25 |
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| johnthetubaguy | but wanted to get some rough work done on them in the wiki first | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | so we see what shape they look | 14:26 |
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| johnthetubaguy | anyways, feedback very welcome | 14:26 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so I caught up with thingee yesterday, and he pointed out we have some bugs cinder folks are worried about | 14:26 |
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| johnthetubaguy | the have added the volumes bug tag, that I think ndipanov owns | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=volumes+ | 14:27 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/CinderNovaAPI | 14:27 |
| mriedem | see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197713/ | 14:27 |
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| mriedem | and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197721/ | 14:27 |
| garyk | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186742/ is criticial when it comes to cinder | 14:27 |
| mriedem | those are related to encrypted volumes for some cinder backends we don't test in the gate like FC | 14:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, we might need to tweak the priority | 14:27 |
| mriedem | heh, yeah, https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1460044 | 14:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1460044 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Data loss can occur if cinder attach fails" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Vipin Balachandran (vbala) | 14:27 |
| mriedem | if it's critical, the importance should probably be set in the bug report | 14:28 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah +1 | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | so anyway, please help get these triaged in that bug tag | 14:28 |
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| johnthetubaguy | cools | 14:28 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so we are at the end of the agenda | 14:29 |
| mriedem | i have a thing | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyone got anything they want to talk about? | 14:29 |
| sahid | yes then me too | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: fire away | 14:29 |
| mriedem | garyk: i think we probably need a specless bp for this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/165060/ | 14:29 |
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| garyk | mriedem: sure, i can add one | 14:29 |
| mriedem | it's a feature, i don't think requires a spec though, but a bp would be good for tracking in launchpad against the liberty series | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, yes, +1 | 14:29 |
| mriedem | ok, thanks | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | it looks that way for sure | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | garyk: let me known when thats created, and I can approve it | 14:30 |
| dansmith | and release notes | 14:30 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: yeah, that too | 14:30 |
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| garyk | johnthetubaguy: ok, sure, will do | 14:30 |
| mriedem | and jaypipes charts at the end of the release :) | 14:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | feels like UpgradeImact is required | 14:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | that way it gets in the release notes | 14:30 |
| ankit | I have a review request for bug https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194063/ | 14:30 |
| dansmith | johnthetubaguy: it's backwards compatible, so no actual upgrade impact I think | 14:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, fair enough | 14:30 |
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| ankit | mriedem: can you please take a look at it | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | so sahid, you put your hand up I think? | 14:31 |
| sahid | yep | 14:31 |
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| sahid | it's about a spec from danpb | 14:31 |
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| sahid | the spec got +2 from mikal | 14:31 |
| sahid | then some nit so i have re psuhed it | 14:31 |
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| sahid | then you +éed it | 14:31 |
| sahid | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139688/ | 14:31 |
| sahid | 2ed | 14:31 |
| sahid | the code is ready for review so i wandoering if we can +W it | 14:32 |
| sahid | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/libvirt-real-time,n,z | 14:32 |
| bauzas | and danpb is on vacation till next week | 14:32 |
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| bauzas | but he was basically +1 with ^ | 14:33 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so this one has been waiting a long time, so its tempting to let it in | 14:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | although its not got long to get merged at this point | 14:33 |
| sahid | johnthetubaguy: i guess yes :) | 14:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | if a nova driver is able to +2 and +W that, then so be it | 14:33 |
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| * mriedem grumbles about pointless deadlines | 14:34 | |
| johnthetubaguy | tomorrow I will try go through and -1 everything thats not on the back log | 14:34 |
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| andreykurilin | johnthetubaguy, about priority patches: rally team uses "gerrit stars" from ptl and release manager(some other person) to mark critical patches. such patches can be displayed via gerrit dashboard - http://goo.gl/YuCJfl (section "Critical for next release"). Maybe we can do the same for nova? | 14:34 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I tried to describe the intent for this one here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Liberty_Release_Schedule#Why_is_there_a_non-priority_Feature_Freeze_in_Nova.3F | 14:34 |
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| sahid | johnthetubaguy: ok cool thank you | 14:35 |
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| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: my point is, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/139688/ isn't a priority, it missed the cutoff, and we have lots of other approved stuff out there needing review | 14:35 |
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| sahid | mriedem: the spec got 2 +2 | 14:35 |
| mriedem | giving everything an exception sort of defeats the purpose | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | andreykurilin: we could, currently we use this thing for that purpose: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: true | 14:35 |
| mriedem | sahid: and? | 14:36 |
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| sahid | it's just dealing with time to review | 14:36 |
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| mriedem | so is everyone else | 14:36 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sahid: it got restored very late, thats the key reason its late | 14:36 |
| mriedem | check out hte list of non-priority stuff in the etherpad for tomorrow | 14:36 |
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| mriedem | it's huge | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: +1 | 14:37 |
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| mriedem | NFV != priority | 14:37 |
| mriedem | now maybe if this were related to nfv + containers i'd make an exception :) | 14:37 |
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| johnthetubaguy | that certainly was the consensus at the summit | 14:37 |
| bauzas | mriedem: while I tend to agree with you, it was just bad to see this spec left off because of a basic rebase :/ | 14:37 |
| dansmith | libvirt realtime DOCKER | 14:37 |
| garyk | so nfv is no longer the new black... | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | so it feels like no one is sponsoring an exception here | 14:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | so it doesn't get one | 14:38 |
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| johnthetubaguy | it was up for review quite late (22nd June) | 14:38 |
| bauzas | mriedem: sahid was maybe too nice to provide a rebase due to some nitpicks, but then it left the change out | 14:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | I get the feeling we are done? | 14:39 |
| mriedem | it was restored on 6/22 | 14:39 |
| mriedem | that's pretty damn late | 14:39 |
| mriedem | anyway, we can move it to -nova | 14:39 |
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| bauzas | agreed | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, lets not keep everyone | 14:39 |
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| garyk | yalla bye | 14:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | #action johnthetubaguy is going to -1 everything that not in the spec backlog so its clear the freeze has ended (it ended on Monday, for sure sure) | 14:40 |
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| johnthetubaguy | anyways, I need to go do that big -1 run | 14:40 |
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| johnthetubaguy | thanks all | 14:41 |
| edleafe | thanks | 14:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | #endmeeting | 14:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 9 14:41:10 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2015/nova.2015-07-09-14.00.html | 14:41 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2015/nova.2015-07-09-14.00.txt | 14:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2015/nova.2015-07-09-14.00.log.html | 14:41 |
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| vishwanathj | hello | 16:00 |
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| sridhar_ram | hi | 16:00 |
| melisha | Hi | 16:00 |
| sripriya | o/ | 16:00 |
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| bobh_ | o/ | 16:01 |
| Rajkumar_ | hi | 16:01 |
| cing | hi | 16:01 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: you there ? | 16:01 |
| sridhar_ram | lets wait a min or two | 16:01 |
| Rajkumar_ | ok | 16:01 |
| cing | ok | 16:01 |
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| sridhar_ram | lets start | 16:02 |
| sridhar_ram | #startmeeting tacker | 16:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 9 16:03:00 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sridhar_ram. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 16:03 |
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| sridhar_ram | Agenda - #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker#Meeting_July_9.2C_2015 | 16:03 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Announcements | 16:03 |
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| sridhar_ram | #info Liberty-2 deadline is July 28th | 16:04 |
| sridhar_ram | #info Summit talk deadline approaching fast - July 15th | 16:04 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Ease of Installation | 16:05 |
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| Rajkumar_ | I've question - how to deploy VNF thru heat templates?? want to know the resource types and seems not present like OS::Tacker::Instance?? | 16:05 |
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| sridhar_ram | Rajkumar_: Tacker doesn't have its own resource types | 16:06 |
| sridhar_ram | we map to existing nova, neutron, .. resourcetypes | 16:06 |
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| sridhar_ram | this will evolve as we integrated with heat-translator | 16:07 |
| Rajkumar_ | Sridhar - it would be helpful if you could share us some samples? either in mail which i sent you guys | 16:07 |
| sridhar_ram | Rajkumar_: sure, lets run thru' the Agenda first and we can get your questions. In fact many of the your are spot on and we should discuss it later in this call. | 16:08 |
| sridhar_ram | *yours | 16:08 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: can you give an quick update on devstack patch ? | 16:08 |
| Rajkumar_ | thanks.. | 16:08 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram:sure | 16:09 |
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| sripriya | the devstack plugin is currently under review | 16:09 |
| sripriya | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199753/ | 16:09 |
| s3wong | sorry, guys... late due to traffic | 16:09 |
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| sridhar_ram | s3wong: hi, np | 16:09 |
| sripriya | Please test the patchset and provide your feedback/comments | 16:10 |
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| sridhar_ram | sripriya: thanks | 16:10 |
| sripriya | It also integrates tacker-horizon installation | 16:10 |
| sripriya | and creating tacker networks | 16:10 |
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| vishwanathj | sripriya, i can test out the patchset | 16:11 |
| sridhar_ram | we also need to bring heat repo w/ port_security_enabled | 16:11 |
| sripriya | it include the local.conf.sample which you should use on devstack stable/kilo | 16:11 |
| sridhar_ram | we need that in stable/kilo branch | 16:11 |
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| sripriya | vishwanathj: thanks | 16:11 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram:agree | 16:11 |
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| s3wong | sridhar_ram: is that patch merged (for Heat)? | 16:11 |
| s3wong | (I haven't checked recently) | 16:12 |
| sripriya | we need to cheery pick the patchset from master to stable/kilo | 16:12 |
| sripriya | s3wong:yes | 16:12 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: yeah, it merged | 16:12 |
| s3wong | well, for tacker, since we have only tested till stable/kilo, we still need to cherry pick it | 16:12 |
| sridhar_ram | any volunteers to have this cherry pick / merge to stable/kilo ? | 16:12 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: exactly | 16:13 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram:i'm currently testing that | 16:13 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: cool, thanks! | 16:13 |
| sridhar_ram | Here is the current standing Tacker Installation guide | 16:13 |
| sridhar_ram | #info https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Tacker/Installation | 16:13 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: I guess you will be updating this once your patchset merges ? | 16:14 |
| sripriya | yes | 16:14 |
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| sridhar_ram | cool.. after these efforts our repo will be on par w.r.t devstack integration .. inline w/ new best practices ! | 16:14 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: awesome effort so far | 16:15 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: thanks, we also need to take care of updating global_requirements in our repo | 16:15 |
| vishwanathj | sridhar_ram, the installation guide assumes that ovs-vsctl packages are pre-installed, is there going to be an update on what needs to be done when installing a brand new OS install | 16:15 |
| sripriya | vishwanathj: that has been handled in devstack plugin | 16:16 |
| sripriya | it will create the bridges only after ovs is installed | 16:16 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: agree, devstack install shd pull required ovs pkgs | 16:16 |
| vishwanathj | sripriya, ok, so the installation guide will be updated, right? | 16:17 |
| sripriya | infact, I will also add Readme.md to the devstack dir. itself under tacker repo | 16:17 |
| sripriya | it should be fairly simple to install tacker | 16:17 |
| sridhar_ram | in general, the next thing in this space is transitioning from stable/kilo to master | 16:18 |
| sripriya | with just enable_plugin tacker <github_repo> in local.conf | 16:18 |
| sridhar_ram | when do you think we shd take that effort ? | 16:18 |
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| sridhar_ram | vishwanathj: lets wait for the new devstack plugin based installation and update the install docs as needed | 16:19 |
| adityavajjha | Will there be any additional instructions for a non-devstack setup? (Plain OS install?) | 16:19 |
| vishwanathj | sridhar_ram, sounds good | 16:19 |
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| sridhar_ram | adityavajjha: there is no official instructions planned. it is usually left as an exercise for the user :) | 16:20 |
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| sridhar_ram | adityavajjha: we sure can help | 16:20 |
| sridhar_ram | reach out to us in the #tacker channel | 16:20 |
| adityavajjha | sridhar_ram: :) okay | 16:20 |
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| adityavajjha | thank you | 16:20 |
| sripriya | adityavajjha: i can also try to help | 16:20 |
| adityavajjha | sripriya: thank you. I will reach out to you in the tacker channel | 16:21 |
| sripriya | adityavajjha:sure | 16:21 |
| sridhar_ram | My personal thought on stable/kilo --> master is - we could wait a bit. we spent decent amount of time in installation / setup and now we should focus on the feature set | 16:22 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: agree | 16:22 |
| sridhar_ram | anything else on installation / setup ? | 16:22 |
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| sridhar_ram | #topic API Transition | 16:22 |
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| sridhar_ram | a quick background ... | 16:23 |
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| sridhar_ram | in the last iteration we changed the python-tackerclient CLIs to use MANO lingo (vnf, vnfd, etc) | 16:23 |
| sridhar_ram | but the Tacker APIs are still based on the servicevm | 16:23 |
| sridhar_ram | we should plan to transition to that. | 16:24 |
| sridhar_ram | I'd prefer to this in Liberty cycle as we can come out in a good shape | 16:24 |
| sridhar_ram | *do this | 16:24 |
| sridhar_ram | cing: I believe you are using Tacker API directly from your apps ? | 16:25 |
| cing | <sridhar_ram>:yes | 16:25 |
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| sridhar_ram | Is it possible to absorb an API change at this point in your development ? | 16:26 |
| cing | we use device-template, device, service-intance api | 16:26 |
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| sridhar_ram | Here are the two choices: (a) fork lift existing users to new API (b) leave existing API as v1 and introduce v2 based on MANO | 16:27 |
| sridhar_ram | what do you all think ? | 16:27 |
| cing | I do not consider for this change | 16:27 |
| bobh_ | I vote for v2 based on MANO | 16:28 |
| vishwanathj | +1 | 16:28 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: up to user | 16:28 |
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| s3wong | cing: if you aren't interested on API change, then we will move to v2 | 16:28 |
| s3wong | cing: while still preserving v1 | 16:28 |
| cing | ok | 16:28 |
| sridhar_ram | sure, sound good to me | 16:29 |
| sripriya | b) vote for v2 | 16:29 |
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| sridhar_ram | #info Tacker V2 API with MANO based semantics will be introduced | 16:29 |
| sridhar_ram | thats unanimous ! like it :) | 16:29 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram, bobh_: going with v2 route, similar to how LBaaS v2 does it, we would need a different URL for API endpoint | 16:30 |
| s3wong | for a while, they were using lbaasv2, I believe | 16:30 |
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| sridhar_ram | yeah, vpnaas is also at v2 and we are discussing v3 | 16:30 |
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| sridhar_ram | we should enough boilerplate references to take up this effort | 16:30 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: so are you doing tackerv2 then? | 16:31 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: sure, I can take it up. I also need some help in the tempest / functional test | 16:31 |
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| bobh_ | There is no easy way to differentiate API versions on a single endpoint? | 16:32 |
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| bobh_ | Though I agree we need to change the endpoint from servicevm to tacker at some point anyway | 16:32 |
| sridhar_ram | #action sridhar_ram will take up Tacker v2 efforts | 16:32 |
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| s3wong | bobh_: since all the APIs are different by naming convention, we could in theory do it directly on tacker/ | 16:33 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: please include me, i would like to help on v2 efforts | 16:33 |
| s3wong | bobh_: but it would be tremendous handcuff moving forward, if we have anything that could potentially name-clash | 16:33 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: sure thing, thanks! | 16:33 |
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| bobh_ | ok - it has always been confusing to me - some projects use different endpoints per version and some don't | 16:34 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh_: that's a good point | 16:34 |
| s3wong | bobh_: API versioning is the direction OpenStack is moving toward | 16:34 |
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| bobh_ | As a client I would prefer to look for a single endpoint and then do versioning on top of that | 16:34 |
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| s3wong | bobh_: that said, since we don't have much versioning for tacker v1, and that there is still user on those APIs, we have to do it via a more primitive method... | 16:35 |
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| s3wong | speaking of which ---- what is our endpoint now? is it servicevm or tacker? | 16:36 |
| sridhar_ram | anyway, this effort will required a spec in tacker-specs | 16:36 |
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| bobh_ | I believe it's servicevm - checking | 16:36 |
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| sridhar_ram | servicevm .. that's why bobh_ comment keep me thinking | 16:36 |
| s3wong | bobh_, sridhar_ram: then life is easy, we can move to tacker/ without any backward compatibility issue | 16:37 |
| sridhar_ram | but we need servicevm path alive as well for cing's needs | 16:37 |
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| s3wong | sridhar_ram: that would be fine --- we can treat servicevm/ basically as v1, just ensure it goes to the same tacker API server | 16:38 |
| sridhar_ram | sure, that works for me .. lot cleaner | 16:38 |
| sridhar_ram | but how this can be achieved in the code is something I'm not clear.. | 16:38 |
| sridhar_ram | let me & sripriya study this a big and come back to the group | 16:39 |
| sridhar_ram | *bit | 16:39 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram, sripriya: given this minor fiasco --- I would recommend once we start using tacker/, let's think about versioning from day 1 | 16:39 |
| sridhar_ram | absolutely | 16:39 |
| sridhar_ram | lets move on .. I'd like to hear out Rajkumar_ | 16:39 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Health Monitoring | 16:40 |
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| s3wong | sridhar_ram: yeah, it would be an interesting problem to look at --- for LBaaS, they are going to two different backends | 16:40 |
| Rajkumar_ | Hi All.. I just sent mail with list of features set | 16:40 |
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| Rajkumar_ | Even we can have teleconf if needed and let me know your convinient time | 16:40 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic User Input | 16:40 |
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| s3wong | Rajkumar_: I started to briefly look at your list of requests | 16:41 |
| sridhar_ram | Rajkumar_: first of thanks for the detailed gap analysis :) | 16:41 |
| Rajkumar_ | Thanks Stephen.... | 16:41 |
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| sridhar_ram | really helpful .. | 16:41 |
| s3wong | Rajkumar_: I would also like for you and Rakesh to prioritize which ones are more important vs others | 16:42 |
| Rajkumar_ | Sridhar - I would request you share us the samples to deploy VNF thru Heat templates | 16:42 |
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| Rajkumar_ | Sure Stephen... | 16:42 |
| s3wong | Rajkumar_: would like to see which ones we should put into Liberty cycle roadmap | 16:42 |
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| Rajkumar_ | Please can we have teleconf? sometime early next week | 16:43 |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-tacker | 16:43 |
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| sridhar_ram | I added the request from Rajkumar_ into the liberty etherpad for reference | 16:43 |
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| sridhar_ram | Rajkumar_: I can share some samples | 16:43 |
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| Rajkumar_ | Thanks Sridhar... | 16:44 |
| sridhar_ram | or better yet sripriya: can you include a sample VNF in the devstack patchset ? | 16:44 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: will do | 16:44 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: thanks | 16:45 |
| sridhar_ram | Rajkumar_: I think we need sometime to go through your inputs | 16:45 |
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| s3wong | sridhar_ram: +1 | 16:45 |
| Rajkumar_ | Sure Sridhar..looking forward to it | 16:45 |
| sridhar_ram | my quick thought is - the items goes into three buckets | 16:45 |
| s3wong | stuff like GBP integration would be unlikely to happen during Liberty | 16:45 |
| sridhar_ram | 1) few things in those request are already in line for Tacker Liberty - we can prirotize that | 16:46 |
| s3wong | also there are tons of NSD related additions which we need to examine, as well as working with the TOSCA side of things... | 16:46 |
| Rajkumar_ | Stephen - GBP can be in low priority | 16:46 |
| sridhar_ram | 2) Others like NSD are indeed in the roadmap | 16:46 |
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| sridhar_ram | s3wong: +1 | 16:46 |
| sridhar_ram | 3) there are few something totally new, like Tenant placement | 16:47 |
| sridhar_ram | okay, I can give a shot in bucketizing them for the next IRC call | 16:48 |
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| sridhar_ram | lets move on... | 16:49 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Health Monitoring | 16:49 |
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| sridhar_ram | bobh_: prashantD: any update ? | 16:49 |
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| s3wong | sridhar_ram: prashantD is on vacation this week | 16:50 |
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| bobh_ | I started work on the spec but haven't finished enough to publish yet - hoping to have something by Monday | 16:50 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh_: sounds good, thanks! | 16:50 |
| bobh_ | I'm thinking it will be limited to one or two additional monitoring types for this cycle | 16:50 |
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| s3wong | bobh_: sure --- we shouldn't want to boil the ocean during the Liberty cycle :-) | 16:51 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh_: in fact, the first order of business to make even the existing icmp into a loadable component | 16:51 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: +1 | 16:52 |
| bobh_ | I was also thinking about reducing the ping to one instead of the default 5 | 16:52 |
| bobh_ | separately | 16:52 |
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| s3wong | bobh_: beware that the ping is running as a thread on the server now | 16:52 |
| sridhar_ram | sure, infact ping monitoring driver could take an arg | 16:52 |
| s3wong | bobh_: which obviously is not a scalable nor proper solution, so if we can move it away from tacker server that would be good | 16:53 |
| bobh_ | I need to look into how that is implemented and see if it is extensible or if we need to do something different | 16:53 |
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| sridhar_ram | in fact we should consider BFD for reachability check | 16:53 |
| s3wong | bobh_: the code today isn't extensible at all :-) | 16:53 |
| bobh_ | s3wong: Away from tacker server might mean Monasca at some point :-) | 16:54 |
| sridhar_ram | folks - time check, 5 mins mark | 16:54 |
| s3wong | bobh_: in fact, the server reaction code (i.e. reacting to ping loss in 5 sec) is directly hooked into a method in the tacker server side | 16:54 |
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| sridhar_ram | lets move on.. | 16:55 |
| s3wong | bobh_: I would say we should first examine moving the ping code as some sort of driver, even if it still runs in server context, separating it out in the future would be easier | 16:55 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: +1 | 16:55 |
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| bobh_ | s3wong: +1 | 16:56 |
| cing | for trove, guest agent report the state to server | 16:56 |
| bobh_ | ok, I'll take a look at it | 16:56 |
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| sridhar_ram | once we have the spec we can use to collect these ideas | 16:56 |
| sridhar_ram | lets move on .. few quick things from me ! | 16:56 |
| s3wong | cing: too bad we don't really have guest agent :-) though I am not sure it would be something to think about for at least the reference implementation for monitoring | 16:56 |
| s3wong | my take is the design is up to bobh_ and prashantD | 16:57 |
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| sridhar_ram | #topic Bugs | 16:57 |
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| sridhar_ram | bobh_: Thanks for lot for knocking off some of the bugs. really appreciate it | 16:57 |
| bobh_ | sridhar_ram: More coming :-) | 16:58 |
| sridhar_ram | bobh_: awesome! | 16:58 |
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| sridhar_ram | team - we need more folks helping out here. please jump in. | 16:58 |
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| sridhar_ram | quick update on CI testing: I'm going to add a gate job for testing beyond pep8 | 16:58 |
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| sridhar_ram | Rajkumar_: can you team help out adding some tests ? | 16:59 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: what are the new tests? | 16:59 |
| vishwanathj | Friendly reminder: We have one minute left | 16:59 |
| sridhar_ram | for now I'll just have a placeholder | 16:59 |
| sridhar_ram | we need volunteers to add specific tests | 16:59 |
| Rajkumar_ | Yes Sridhar.. we're testing it | 17:00 |
| sridhar_ram | Rajkumar_: thanks, can you also help adding testcases to Tacker code base ? | 17:00 |
| Rajkumar_ | I'll collate the issues/bugs and share it in mail to you all | 17:00 |
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| s3wong | sridhar_ram: I will still add some unit tests --- apology for delay, didn't quite make the progress I hoped for during the 4th weekend | 17:00 |
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| Rajkumar_ | yeah.. Please let me know the procedure the log in test cases | 17:00 |
| sridhar_ram | Rajkumar_: sure, can guide you | 17:01 |
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| sridhar_ram | folks - we are out of time | 17:01 |
| sridhar_ram | #endmeeting | 17:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 9 17:01:20 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2015/tacker.2015-07-09-16.03.html | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2015/tacker.2015-07-09-16.03.txt | 17:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2015/tacker.2015-07-09-16.03.log.html | 17:01 |
| s3wong | Thanks guys | 17:01 |
| sripriya | Thanks all | 17:01 |
| s3wong | move to #tacker if any of you guys have anything further to discuss | 17:01 |
| sridhar_ram | Thanks all! | 17:01 |
| Rajkumar_ | thanks | 17:01 |
| cing | thanks | 17:01 |
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| terrylhowe | osc meeting today? | 19:01 |
| dtroyer | aaaahhhh!!!!!!!! | 19:01 |
| dtroyer | yes | 19:01 |
| dtroyer | ;) | 19:01 |
| * dtroyer lost track of time reading naming debates | 19:02 | |
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| dtroyer | courtesy ping: dhellmann, stevemar, briancurtin, lhcheng, sigmavirus24 | 19:03 |
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| lhcheng | o/ | 19:03 |
| sigmavirus24 | Thanks dtroyer | 19:03 |
| dtroyer | #startmeeting OpenStackClient | 19:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 9 19:03:52 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtroyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:03 |
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| sigmavirus24 | o/ | 19:03 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstackclient' | 19:03 |
| dtroyer | again, no prepared agenda so we'll follow the usual sequence: reviews, bugs, open | 19:04 |
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| terrylhowe | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181514/ | 19:06 |
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| dtroyer | #topic reviews | 19:06 |
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| terrylhowe | I’d like to do some rework on shell.py in general, but I’d like to have the api versions work out of occ^^ | 19:06 |
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| dtroyer | so, uh, I kept holding back on that because I thought I was going to have a refactor of the whole arg handling and I can't find the dang thing now | 19:07 |
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| dtroyer | I think I should stop holding things up and we'll do cleanups as we move along | 19:08 |
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| dtroyer | I am still concerned about a behaviour change and need to check that out yet | 19:08 |
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| terrylhowe | I think I’ve maintained your desired precendence there cli opt, env var, occ, default value | 19:11 |
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| terrylhowe | but definitely give it a test spin | 19:11 |
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| terrylhowe | I keep bumping into this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181722/ and I want to put identity-api-version in my clouds.yaml and that doesn’t work | 19:12 |
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| terrylhowe | I’m doing v3 auth and identity-api-version defaults to 2 | 19:12 |
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| dtroyer | yeah, that does need addressing | 19:14 |
| dtroyer | and IIRC it shouldn't be too hard, just a matter of getting the auth bits sorted and separated from CRUD | 19:14 |
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| dtroyer | terrylhowe: how much of this changes significantly with the SDK change? | 19:15 |
| dtroyer | ie, separating auth and identity crud? | 19:15 |
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| terrylhowe | well, the sdk does generalize the service catalog so it could be used for either version at least | 19:16 |
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| terrylhowe | auth is complete idenpendent of identity-api-version like it is in osc now | 19:16 |
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| dtroyer | good, I think thats what we wanted to do here too. so with that coming, does it make sense to try to bring in that separation now or band-aid it until SDK switch? | 19:16 |
| terrylhowe | band-aid it probably | 19:17 |
| dtroyer | ok. does 181722 fix what you are running in to? | 19:17 |
| terrylhowe | I put the catalog list one on my list of things to look at more if I get around to it | 19:17 |
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| terrylhowe | Yeh, I think 181722 would be a good band aid | 19:18 |
| dtroyer | ok, it isn't abandoned so looks like a rebase should revive it | 19:18 |
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| * dtroyer throws a wet rebase-review at stevemar | 19:19 | |
| stevemar | ewww | 19:19 |
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| dtroyer | any other reviews to highlight? | 19:21 |
| dtroyer | I don't see anything else I have questions about for anyone… terrylhowe's been cranking out the tests and those look good. are they ready? | 19:21 |
| stevemar | bah to 181722 | 19:21 |
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| dtroyer | I know, right? | 19:22 |
| dtroyer | #topic bugs | 19:22 |
| terrylhowe | the functional tests are g2g except the network one which needs a tweak to the gate to add neutron | 19:22 |
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| dtroyer | stevemar did a bang-up job cleaning up the queue | 19:22 |
| * dtroyer recalls the wet rebase-review thrown earlier | 19:22 | |
| stevemar | woo hoo | 19:23 |
| stevemar | no more wetness | 19:23 |
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| dtroyer | so https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1472909 | 19:24 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1472909 in python-openstackclient ""role assignment list" fails if two users in different domains have the same name" [Undecided,New] | 19:24 |
| * stevemar adds the --help option to the agenda | 19:24 | |
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| dtroyer | are we driving the API incorrectly there or is that not supposed to happen? | 19:25 |
| stevemar | thats a good question | 19:25 |
| stevemar | i havent had the time to look @ it yet | 19:26 |
| dtroyer | at a glance it seems like we don't handle the return well | 19:26 |
| stevemar | we do some funky stuff with the returned data - so yeah, i wouldn't be surprised if thats the case | 19:26 |
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| dtroyer | since stevemar brought it up, https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1444983 is about the help situation. Does what sean is looking at cover the current concerns are are there others? | 19:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1444983 in python-openstackclient "-h and --help revert to top level help when used in a subcommand" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Sean Perry (sean-perry-a) | 19:28 |
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| dtroyer | if I read what we write in the ML thread, he wants -h to be context-sensitive, which I don't think we can do, ie be both global and command-specific | 19:29 |
| stevemar | well -h and --help | 19:30 |
| dtroyer | right | 19:30 |
| stevemar | kinda treat it like --format for list | 19:30 |
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| dtroyer | even so, it is working like I think we intended | 19:30 |
| dtroyer | so I'm intersted to see how he fixes it | 19:30 |
| terrylhowe | yeh me too. I’m not sure it is possible in any easy way | 19:31 |
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| dtroyer | any other bugs to mention? | 19:32 |
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| stevemar | it'll involve a lot of ciiff-ness | 19:33 |
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| stevemar | oh dtroyer if you could review the ssh one | 19:33 |
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| stevemar | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199719/2 | 19:33 |
| stevemar | you know nova more than i do | 19:33 |
| dtroyer | ok | 19:33 |
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| dtroyer | moving on... | 19:34 |
| dtroyer | #topic open discussion | 19:34 |
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| dtroyer | so I do have one quick thing… | 19:34 |
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| dtroyer | I am having back surgery at the end of July and will be offline-ish for at least 3 weeks | 19:34 |
| terrylhowe | no bueno | 19:35 |
| dtroyer | you guys can self-run the meetings for a while? | 19:36 |
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| dtroyer | anything else? | 19:37 |
| terrylhowe | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199656/ | 19:37 |
| terrylhowe | how did you guys feel about removing —dhcp option from network list? | 19:38 |
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| terrylhowe | I was kind of thinking it was unlikely anyone was using it and it doesn’t list networks at all | 19:38 |
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| dtroyer | I think that's the right thing. I recall there was a reason to leave it there for now even though it wasn't right | 19:38 |
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| dtroyer | but don't remember it so lets do it | 19:39 |
| lhcheng | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198506/ | 19:40 |
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| lhcheng | a new option was added called "endpoint_type" | 19:40 |
| lhcheng | and we're renaming to interface_type | 19:40 |
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| lhcheng | should we just name this as "interface"? | 19:41 |
| stevemar | dtroyer: before you run off to back-surgery land, we should have another release | 19:41 |
| dtroyer | agreed on the release | 19:41 |
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| lhcheng | stevemar: should we land the rename patch first before we release? | 19:42 |
| dtroyer | on interface, I'm not sure interface-type makes sense. I recall jamielennox having an opinion there that might sway us | 19:42 |
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| stevemar | lhcheng: that might be a bit much to take on before dtroyer leaves | 19:42 |
| dtroyer | lhcheng: rename as in rename the package? | 19:42 |
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| lhcheng | dtroyer: rename the "endpoint_type" argument | 19:43 |
| lhcheng | :) | 19:43 |
| dtroyer | oh, yes, we must do that before a release if we are going to, otherwise back-comapt-land | 19:43 |
| terrylhowe | I think lhcheng is just talking changing the option from os-interface-type to os-interface | 19:43 |
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| lhcheng | terrylhowe: yup | 19:44 |
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| lhcheng | dtroyer: this was the feedback from jamielennox | 19:44 |
| lhcheng | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185193/ - PS14 | 19:44 |
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| terrylhowe | is public, private, admin an interface or interface-type? | 19:46 |
| dtroyer | thanks lhcheng, that's what I thought I saw | 19:46 |
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| lhcheng | the attribute name in keystone is just "interface" | 19:46 |
| dtroyer | this is one place we should follow the API specs rather than make up something, it is too specific | 19:46 |
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| stevemar | i think jamie has the most opinion on that one | 19:47 |
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| lhcheng | okay, will ask Jamie later when he's online | 19:48 |
| dtroyer | anything else for today? | 19:49 |
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| stevemar | i'm okay | 19:50 |
| stevemar | we had a lot of functional tests added | 19:50 |
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| dtroyer | ok then, if nothing else, thanks everyone! | 19:51 |
| dtroyer | #endmeeting | 19:52 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 9 19:52:11 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2015/openstackclient.2015-07-09-19.03.html | 19:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2015/openstackclient.2015-07-09-19.03.txt | 19:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstackclient/2015/openstackclient.2015-07-09-19.03.log.html | 19:52 |
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| mtreinish | #startmeeting qa | 22:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jul 9 22:01:04 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mtreinish. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 22:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 22:01 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 22:01 |
| mtreinish | hi who's here today? | 22:01 |
| masayukig | hi | 22:01 |
| gmann | o/ | 22:01 |
| mtreinish | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Proposed_Agenda_for_July_9th_2015_.282200_UTC.29 | 22:01 |
| auld | o/ | 22:01 |
| mtreinish | ^^^ today's agenda | 22:01 |
| dpaterson | o/ | 22:01 |
| masayukig | I have to leave in 30 mins,though... | 22:01 |
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| mtreinish | masayukig: ok, no worries | 22:01 |
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| mtreinish | dtroyer: around? | 22:02 |
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| mtreinish | ok let's get started | 22:02 |
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| mtreinish | #topic New meeting time poll (mtreinish) | 22:02 |
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| mtreinish | so based on some discussions we've had at the last 2200utc meeting the 2200 utc time slot hasn't been working too well lately | 22:03 |
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| mtreinish | it's too early for a lot of apac which was the point of having the alternating timeslots | 22:03 |
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| mtreinish | so I started a doodle poll to find a new timeslot: | 22:03 |
| mtreinish | #link http://doodle.com/eykyptgi3ca3r9mk | 22:03 |
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| mtreinish | I'm hoping to have the meeting at the new time in 2 weeks | 22:04 |
| mtreinish | so make sure to vote on it so I've got enough data to reschedule :) | 22:05 |
| mtreinish | ok, that was all I had on this topic, is there anything else? | 22:05 |
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| gmann | mtreinish: so next alt meeting (23rd) will be on new time | 22:05 |
| mtreinish | yep, that's what I was hoping for | 22:05 |
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| gmann | mtreinish: great. thanks. | 22:06 |
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| mtreinish | ok, let's move on | 22:06 |
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| mtreinish | #topic Specs Reviews | 22:06 |
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| mtreinish | are there any open specs reviews to discuss today? | 22:07 |
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| gmann | mtreinish: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198219/ | 22:07 |
| dpaterson | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191978/ | 22:07 |
| gmann | mtreinish: it is service client spec/discussion i put in new file | 22:08 |
| gmann | oomichi +2 is there | 22:08 |
| mtreinish | gmann: ah, ok cool. I'll take a look after the meeting. I expect that to be a fast +A | 22:08 |
| gmann | mtreinish: Thanks | 22:08 |
| mtreinish | since it's something we've basically agreed on at this point | 22:08 |
| gmann | yea | 22:08 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: yes, thats right | 22:09 |
| mtreinish | are there any other specs? | 22:09 |
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| mtreinish | I guess not, let's move on | 22:10 |
| mtreinish | #topic Blueprints | 22:10 |
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| mtreinish | are there any open blueprints to discuss? | 22:10 |
| mtreinish | or any status updates people want to give | 22:10 |
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| oomichi | I have one | 22:11 |
| oomichi | about service client | 22:11 |
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| mtreinish | oomichi: ok, go ahead | 22:11 |
| oomichi | now we are working for migrating service clients to tempest-lib | 22:11 |
| oomichi | and the progress is written on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tempest-consistent-service-method-names | 22:12 |
| oomichi | I am concentrating on compute service clients because they are inconsistent and can find the working items | 22:12 |
| oomichi | and most parts seems done | 22:13 |
| mtreinish | nice, it looks like most of the modules are done for compute :) | 22:13 |
| oomichi | just one point is about "kwargs" on openstack-dev ml | 22:13 |
| mtreinish | ah, yeah I've been meaning to reply to that thread | 22:13 |
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| mtreinish | but I think excepting kwargs for the body is probably fine | 22:14 |
| oomichi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/068864.html | 22:14 |
| mtreinish | /excepting/accepting | 22:14 |
| mtreinish | if they're garbage the input validation on the server side will yell at you | 22:14 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: thanks, that will be nice input | 22:14 |
| mtreinish | well for nova it will at least. Other projects who knows... | 22:15 |
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| mtreinish | oomichi: when do you expect to actually start migrating things to tempest-lib? It looks like you're pretty close | 22:15 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: I will ask the other people for working for the other service clients | 22:15 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: maybe next two weeks | 22:16 |
| mtreinish | ah, ok cool | 22:16 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: that is my hope ;) | 22:16 |
| mtreinish | I have faith | 22:16 |
| gmann | mtreinish: oomichi : i will also push return value thing as per https://review.openstack.org/#/c/198219/ soon | 22:16 |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: yeah, that is also necessary before. | 22:17 |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: thanks in advance :) | 22:17 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: it might be helpful to post that etherpad to the ML in a call for help on the other (non-compute) service clients. Because those should be pretty easy for others to help on | 22:18 |
| mtreinish | that could make things go faster too | 22:18 |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: that is a nice idea, will do it later | 22:18 |
| mtreinish | #action oomichi to share etherpad of work items for service client migration to ML | 22:19 |
| mtreinish | ok, are there any other bps to discuss? | 22:19 |
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| mtreinish | well, I can talk about a couple | 22:20 |
| mtreinish | on the external plugin interface for tempest bp | 22:21 |
| mtreinish | the initial stevedore patch landed | 22:21 |
| mtreinish | although I haven't tested it yet so I dunno if it works :) | 22:21 |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: oops, I also didn't test honestly | 22:22 |
| mtreinish | hehe, it's ok no harm done | 22:22 |
| mtreinish | if someone tries to use it and it doesn't work I expect a bug will just be filed and we can fix it fast | 22:22 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: yeah, that's right ;) | 22:22 |
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| mtreinish | I need to corner mkoderer so we can test things with manila's tempest tests and see what's missing | 22:22 |
| mtreinish | but I expect some more patches will come out of actually trying to use it :) | 22:23 |
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| mtreinish | the other bp I wanted to bring up was the cli-improvements one | 22:24 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: yes, right. but the other project guy also want to use it now | 22:24 |
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| oomichi | that is a reason why i am pushing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197841/ | 22:24 |
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| mtreinish | ah ok, yeah I guess we can add that, but it is just a spec I really hope people don't try to write code using an interface only described in a spec | 22:25 |
| oomichi | maybe we need to block to use it on the other project before implementing it on manila | 22:25 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: yeah | 22:25 |
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| dpaterson | mtreinish: I've been evaluating your three cli patches and once I fixed the path issue locally init seems to be working well. Have not tried run as of yet. | 22:26 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: well, in the worst case if someone managed to successfully use the untested stuff which has landed and we need to change an interface it'll just break them | 22:27 |
| mtreinish | I don't think we should worry about backwards compat on this aspect until we say it's ready | 22:27 |
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| mtreinish | dpaterson: ok, awesome | 22:27 |
| mtreinish | that's good to know | 22:27 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: a nice point, I agree/hope | 22:27 |
| mtreinish | dpaterson: did you try running normally (with like testr directly) | 22:28 |
| dpaterson | not yet, tomorrow morning I plan on it. | 22:28 |
| mtreinish | because my concern with init at this point is that testr or testr based things will just work in the working dir | 22:28 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: hehe, we'll see I guess :) | 22:28 |
| dpaterson | Okay, will validate that case | 22:29 |
| mtreinish | dpaterson: great thanks | 22:29 |
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| mtreinish | I probably should test it myself too :) | 22:29 |
| dpaterson | :) | 22:29 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:bp/tempest-cli-improvements,n,z | 22:29 |
| mtreinish | just for reference those are the patches dpaterson and I are talking about | 22:29 |
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| mtreinish | they add the beginning of the new run workflow for tempest | 22:30 |
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| mtreinish | the run command still needs some work (which is why it's marked WIP) | 22:31 |
| mtreinish | ok are there any other blueprints? | 22:31 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: cool, that seems nice progress | 22:31 |
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| mtreinish | ok, let's move on | 22:32 |
| mtreinish | #topic Devstack | 22:32 |
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| mtreinish | dtroyer: did you have anything to discuss about devstack this week? | 22:32 |
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| mtreinish | or does anyone else have anything to discuss about devstack? | 22:33 |
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| mtreinish | ok, lets move on then | 22:35 |
| mtreinish | #topic Grenade | 22:35 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone have anything to discuss about grenade this week? | 22:35 |
| auld | we are interested in working on the multi-node grenade that has been discussed a bit | 22:35 |
| auld | Don't know if anyone has picked this up though | 22:36 |
| mtreinish | auld: ah, yeah sry I meant to respond to your email, it just got lost in my mail flood :( | 22:36 |
| mtreinish | auld: sdague has been working on that this week | 22:36 |
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| mtreinish | he's got patches up to run multinode grenade | 22:36 |
| mtreinish | but there are some infra issues he's been debugging with clarkb on running the multi-node jobs | 22:37 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199091/ | 22:37 |
| mtreinish | and | 22:37 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199073/ | 22:37 |
| mtreinish | auld: ^^^ those are the patches I was thinking of | 22:38 |
| auld | OK, good, we'll look at them | 22:38 |
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| mtreinish | I haven't been following the work there too closely, so I'm not exactly sure what the blocking issue right now is | 22:38 |
| masayukig | thanks all, I have to go.. | 22:38 |
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| mtreinish | masayukig: o/ | 22:39 |
| mtreinish | auld: I would touch base with sdague tomorrow to see if there's something he needs help with | 22:39 |
| mtreinish | is there anything else to discuss on grenade? | 22:40 |
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| auld | Yes, will see if I can catch him | 22:40 |
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| mtreinish | ok, let's move on then | 22:41 |
| mtreinish | #topic Bugs | 22:41 |
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| mtreinish | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Tempest-bug-report | 22:41 |
| mtreinish | gmann: anything intersting in the world of bugs this week? | 22:41 |
| gmann | mtreinish: andreaf had this week triage rotation | 22:42 |
| mtreinish | I have noticed ylobankov triaging a lot of bugs lately, which is awesome | 22:42 |
| gmann | and ylobankov doing good job for backlog cleanup | 22:42 |
| gmann | mtreinish: yes | 22:42 |
| mtreinish | hmm, it's kinda late for andreaf I guess we'll ask him later | 22:42 |
| gmann | ok | 22:43 |
| gmann | other than that nothing much | 22:43 |
| mtreinish | heh, ok | 22:43 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone have anything else to discuss on bugs? | 22:43 |
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| gmann | i will also start cleaning up backlog, as there are lot of old bugs which might be invalid now | 22:43 |
| mtreinish | yeah I expect a lot of things have kinda sat there while tempest was changing | 22:44 |
| gmann | yea | 22:44 |
| mtreinish | ok, let's move on | 22:44 |
| mtreinish | #topic Critical Reviews | 22:44 |
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| mtreinish | does anyone have any reviews they'd like to get extra eyes on? | 22:44 |
| dpaterson | mtreinish: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/199091/ not sure if qualifies as critical :) | 22:44 |
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| mtreinish | dpaterson: did you mean: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191978/ ? | 22:45 |
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| dpaterson | damn | 22:46 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/191978/ | 22:46 |
| mtreinish | no worries | 22:46 |
| dpaterson | yup | 22:46 |
| mtreinish | sry I meant to look at that last week and forgot | 22:46 |
| mtreinish | but I liked the intent of the patch from the commit msg :) | 22:46 |
| dpaterson | np, it had a +2 but then suffered bit rot | 22:47 |
| dpaterson | So I had to submit another patch. | 22:47 |
| mtreinish | ok | 22:48 |
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| mtreinish | are there any other patches to bring up? | 22:48 |
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| mtreinish | heh, I guess not | 22:50 |
| * mtreinish is kinda surprised | 22:50 | |
| mtreinish | ok let's open the floor | 22:50 |
| mtreinish | #topic Open Discussion | 22:50 |
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| mtreinish | Does anyone have any topic to discuss that wasn't on the agenda? | 22:50 |
| mtreinish | oh, I guess I should mention that we added yet another project under the QA umbrella | 22:51 |
| mtreinish | #link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/eslint-config-openstack/ | 22:51 |
| mtreinish | which is basically the equiv. of hacking for javascript | 22:52 |
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| oomichi | mtreinish: cool :) | 22:52 |
| gmann | mtreinish: interesting... | 22:52 |
| oomichi | mtreinish: qa continues bigger | 22:53 |
| mtreinish | oomichi: heh, yep :) | 22:53 |
| mtreinish | I just checked the governance patch is still in progress: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/governance,n,z | 22:53 |
| mtreinish | d'oh | 22:53 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/195197 | 22:53 |
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| mtreinish | oh it just needs to be kicked it has the +A but the depends on blocked it | 22:54 |
| mtreinish | ok, if there isn't anything else I guess we'll end here today | 22:55 |
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| gmann | nothing from my side | 22:55 |
| oomichi | thanks all o/ | 22:55 |
| mtreinish | #endmeeting | 22:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 22:55 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jul 9 22:55:58 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:56 |
| mtreinish | thanks everyone | 22:56 |
| gmann | Thanks | 22:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2015/qa.2015-07-09-22.01.html | 22:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2015/qa.2015-07-09-22.01.txt | 22:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2015/qa.2015-07-09-22.01.log.html | 22:56 |
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