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| alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 12:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Fri Jul 10 12:00:28 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 12:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 12:00 |
| alex_xu | hello~ who is here today! | 12:00 |
| gmann | hi | 12:00 |
| Jeffrey4l | alex_xu, hi | 12:01 |
| alex_xu | gmann: Jeffrey4l hi! | 12:01 |
| alex_xu | wait one more minute if there are more people join in | 12:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | hi | 12:02 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: hi | 12:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | I should really run off and get some lunch, soon ish, but just want to make sure you are not being blocked by anything | 12:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | there are pending specs I guess | 12:02 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: thanks a lot! | 12:02 |
| alex_xu | so let me quick go through all the items | 12:03 |
| alex_xu | s/me/us/ | 12:03 |
| alex_xu | #topic Liberty priority items | 12:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Liberty priority items (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 12:03 | |
| alex_xu | Good news is we merged most of items' spec in L1 except the only one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173243/ | 12:03 |
| alex_xu | But I think it won't have too much change. Maybe I should ping Anne to see if she can remove the -1 | 12:03 |
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| alex_xu | #action alex_xu catch Anne to see if she can remove the -1 | 12:04 |
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| alex_xu | For other thing we can focus on code. They are Microversion client, remove v3, policy cleanup. | 12:04 |
| alex_xu | Microversion client is ready review for a while~. | 12:04 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/152569/39 | 12:04 |
| alex_xu | I reviewed it today, I found it still have some problem. I think it still coding the pattern as API will do version negotiation. That isn't what we discussed before, right? | 12:05 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: sdague ^ | 12:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, that doesn't sound correct | 12:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | I mean it could be an option, but it certainly shouldn't be the default | 12:05 |
| alex_xu | I guess there is something misunderstand what is 'API bit' and 'CLI bit' | 12:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | quite possibly | 12:06 |
| sdague | yeh, I feel like that whole back and forth has been a lot of communication issues | 12:06 |
| sdague | I had thought we got to the bottom of that in the spec | 12:06 |
| alex_xu | sdague: do we still need update spec? or just focus on the code now? | 12:07 |
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| sdague | I think just the code, the spec was obviously not clarifying anything | 12:07 |
| alex_xu | sdague: yea... | 12:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | +1 | 12:08 |
| alex_xu | let me see if I can catch the author, try to explain some to him | 12:08 |
| johnthetubaguy | (sadly) | 12:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so if a google hangout helps for these things, lets try set that up | 12:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I think we are spread between enough timezones something could work | 12:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | (thats me "giving permission", rather than requesting that) | 12:09 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: the author isn't English guys I guess, then +me too...maybe text for me better | 12:10 |
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| sdague | johnthetubaguy: yeh, or at least get a dedicated chunk of irc time | 12:10 |
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| * nightanne waves over coffee | 12:11 | |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, either of those could work | 12:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, sounds like there is more communication needed, but thats cool | 12:12 |
| alex_xu | yea, agree | 12:12 |
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| alex_xu | I can send email to contact the author, then find out a time. or maybe next api meeting | 12:13 |
| alex_xu | #action alex_xu send email to contact microversio client author to setup a meeting | 12:14 |
| alex_xu | For policy cleanup, I submited more patches~ The final goal is remove the hard-code permission checks decorator. | 12:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool | 12:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | thank you | 12:14 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/200382 | 12:14 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: np | 12:14 |
| alex_xu | There are some useless db call still using hard-code permission, I want to cleanup the useless db call directly. | 12:15 |
| alex_xu | I guess no more question for this | 12:15 |
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| alex_xu | For removing v3, the patch looks like still under coding, not ready for review yet. | 12:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | if a blueprint helps to track those things, we can add one, but its not a requirement | 12:15 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: for removing v3 or policy?, those have bluepring too | 12:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | sorry, I was meaning the db calls, although yeah, I guess thats already covered | 12:17 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yea | 12:17 |
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| alex_xu | welcome anyone review for priority items~ | 12:17 |
| alex_xu | let's moving on | 12:17 |
| alex_xu | #topic What is next for nova api policy | 12:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "What is next for nova api policy (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 12:18 | |
| alex_xu | After catching a lot of discussion about dynamic policy, I see the thing as sdague said we need waiting for dynamic policy's big picture before we continue policy improvement in nova. | 12:18 |
| alex_xu | The propose from sdague about 'default in code', and '/policy' didn't get agreement with keystone guys yet from yet. And from previous meeting, we said we should workout what we want to in the future first. So let us work out the devref first? | 12:18 |
| sdague | yeh, I need to circle around with morganfainberg on the oslo.policy changes | 12:18 |
| sdague | he seemed pretty ammenable to it | 12:19 |
| sdague | but, vacation last week, and working through some other issues this week (like multinode) | 12:19 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so this was a post summit action I think, don't totally remember who got that one | 12:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think its good to stop and write down the problems we want to solve | 12:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | we do have a lot of policy, all over the place | 12:20 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I mean we have a big API, thats the root cause | 12:20 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yea | 12:20 |
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| johnthetubaguy | anyways, all good, we just need more time in the day | 12:20 |
| alex_xu | sdague: actually the propose and idea is from you. Would you like to draft devref?, or you want to others help? | 12:21 |
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| sdague | it is unlikely that I'll get to it before the midcycle | 12:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | so its one of the thing I might draft if I get there first, but i looks unlikely for me too | 12:21 |
| sdague | maybe we can allocate a bit of time to talk it through at the midcycle | 12:21 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I think we already did that at the summit though | 12:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | well, maybe not the dynamic bit I supose | 12:22 |
| sdague | yeh, I feel like we have end game, but there are details to talk through | 12:23 |
| sdague | if there isn't time, that's fine as well | 12:23 |
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| johnthetubaguy | cool, its probably worth talking through then | 12:24 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I assigned time on Monday for all the priorities, it could go in there | 12:24 |
| alex_xu | ok, cool. | 12:25 |
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| alex_xu | so waiting for the result from mid-cycle. let's moving on | 12:26 |
| alex_xu | #topic What is next for Liberty-2 | 12:26 |
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| alex_xu | We still have few items I think need to do, like remove extension, and api reference doc. | 12:26 |
| alex_xu | anything more? | 12:26 |
| alex_xu | if no more other thing is more prioirty, I will work on remove extension, probably an nova-specs | 12:27 |
| alex_xu | and welcome anyone interesting in it to help on ^ | 12:27 |
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| Jeffrey4l | I can help ;P | 12:28 |
| alex_xu | Jeffrey4l: cool, thanks :) | 12:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | it would be good to the the docs moving too | 12:28 |
| Jeffrey4l | np~ | 12:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | we really need all the specs in ASAP, if possible | 12:28 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: actually remove extesion is a little related to api reference doc. | 12:28 |
| morninganne | alex_xu: can you help with the api ref doc? I have ideas | 12:29 |
| alex_xu | because our api ref doc still talk about extension | 12:29 |
| alex_xu | morninganne: yea, sure | 12:29 |
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| alex_xu | #link http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-compute-v2.1.html#os-extended-availability-zone-v2.1 | 12:29 |
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| alex_xu | ^ it still talk about extesion for v2.1 | 12:29 |
| morninganne | alex_xu: ideas here http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2015-June/007041.html | 12:30 |
| morninganne | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2015-June/007041.html | 12:30 |
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| morninganne | alex_xu: do you have a doc bug in https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-site | 12:30 |
| alex_xu | morninganne: cool~ this is what I want~ | 12:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, we did say the docs should be the main aim for liberty | 12:30 |
| alex_xu | morninganne: not yet | 12:31 |
| morninganne | johnthetubaguy: +1 | 12:31 |
| alex_xu | morninganne: so we can switch to swagger now, or we still need maintaince existed api ref doc? | 12:31 |
| morninganne | alex_xu: please jump in. I haven't had a chance to tackle the JSON schema work for /actions | 12:31 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177934 | 12:31 |
| morninganne | alex_xu: we have to maintain while we get the generated swagger solution working | 12:31 |
| alex_xu | morninganne: yea /actions is a problem, it isn't discoverable | 12:31 |
| gmann | about API ref doc site new idea | 12:32 |
| morninganne | read the spec and posts carefully, it's "Swagger-ish" :) | 12:32 |
| gmann | FYI | 12:32 |
| morninganne | gmann: thanks yes that's the spec | 12:32 |
| morninganne | gmann: the list post is the latest progress | 12:32 |
| morninganne | I should just merge that spec :) | 12:32 |
| gmann | yea | 12:32 |
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| alex_xu | morninganne: the current api doc ref for v2.1 looks like mess, and it didn't support microversion, I'm not sure maintance it whether is waste, if we can have swagger in no long time | 12:33 |
| morninganne | alex_xu: we'll send PRs to https://github.com/russell/fairy-slipper | 12:33 |
| morninganne | alex_xu: it's a waste, please work on https://github.com/russell/fairy-slipper | 12:33 |
| morninganne | alex_xu: accelerating Swagger is preferred | 12:33 |
| alex_xu | morninganne: ok, cool | 12:34 |
| morninganne | alex_xu: and microversion for swagger is what we want | 12:34 |
| morninganne | to the future! :) | 12:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think testing the new micro versions in the new thing would be fun | 12:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | maybe just do keypairs | 12:34 |
| alex_xu | morninganne: yes, agree, and hope we get that for liberty release | 12:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | and see how it works? | 12:34 |
| morninganne | only 3 months til release right | 12:34 |
| alex_xu | morninganne: yea, it's tight | 12:35 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: you mean doc? | 12:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 12:35 |
| morninganne | keypairs where? (tell me more) | 12:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | use the new doc system on two microversions | 12:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | see how it looks | 12:36 |
| morninganne | ah, we'll need more than that though eventually? | 12:36 |
| morninganne | (more than pairs?) | 12:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | agreed | 12:36 |
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| morninganne | russellb: ha ha hah | 12:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | just its somewhere we have added a version already | 12:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | russellb: hehe | 12:36 |
| gmann | :) | 12:37 |
| morninganne | never thought about the attention aspect. I have a new lease on life. | 12:37 |
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| alex_xu | ok, cool | 12:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | so its this bit: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/plugins/v3/keypairs.py#L54 | 12:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | it has one microversion | 12:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | another is in review | 12:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | its just an interesting test case | 12:38 |
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| johnthetubaguy | something tells me that we kinda want v2.0 and v2.1 in the same set of docs really, rather than separate | 12:38 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yea | 12:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | in the same way v2.1 and v2.2 should be in the same docs I guess | 12:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | but anyways, keypairs is a small place we could start with I think | 12:39 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: do we still need talk about extension in v2.0? | 12:39 |
| morninganne | alex_xu: hm, good question. it's already out there and what people think of at Rackspace | 12:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: well consider it removed in v2.1 I guess | 12:40 |
| morninganne | but yes, we consider it removed in 2.1 | 12:40 |
| morninganne | (it being all extensions) | 12:40 |
| alex_xu | if v2.0 still consider extensions, then we may not put v2.1 and v2.0 in one doc | 12:40 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I think we just need to look at it differently | 12:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | in v2.0 the extension returns 404 if not listed in that /extensions | 12:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats gets dropped at some version, once we get that sorted | 12:41 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I mean when you use v2.1 code, it will not be possible to turn any of those off, but its still technically an API concept | 12:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | does that make sense? | 12:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | basically call the whole thing the Nova API | 12:41 |
| morninganne | johnthetubaguy: not to end users, never use extension for end users | 12:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | just note that some bits might be missing, based on the extension list, where as later its a version | 12:42 |
| morninganne | johnthetubaguy: we'll use microversions in end user doc though I think | 12:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | morninganne: well that is the end user API we have right /extensions | 12:42 |
| morninganne | johnthetubaguy: only to people grepping nova code if we can make the docs nice | 12:42 |
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| morninganne | johnthetubaguy: capabilities/rights not extensions | 12:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats quite different actually | 12:43 |
| morninganne | johnthetubaguy: I'd like to ban the word extensions except for in the nova code | 12:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | so its in the API | 12:43 |
| morninganne | johnthetubaguy: nooo... | 12:43 |
| * morninganne is sad panda | 12:43 | |
| johnthetubaguy | we are trying to remove it | 12:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | but its been there since almost the beginning | 12:43 |
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| johnthetubaguy | and agreed that sucks | 12:43 |
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| alex_xu | we call it as plugin | 12:44 |
| alex_xu | if that sounds better~ | 12:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | so we don't have to do any of that right | 12:44 |
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| johnthetubaguy | its simply that an API can be disabled and return 404 | 12:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | you can see if its disabled by looking in the extension list | 12:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | (well see if its enabled, I guess) | 12:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | now as of some version, thats no longer there, as its always enabled | 12:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | and its pure policy | 12:45 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I don't think we can hide that | 12:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | at no time should we say v2.0 vs extensions any more | 12:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | its just a single v2.0 API | 12:46 |
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| johnthetubaguy | just you can discover if its missing in a particular way | 12:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | at least thats what I was thinking | 12:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | .... seems like I should write that down | 12:46 |
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| morninganne | does the policy file say extensions johnthetubaguy? | 12:47 |
| morninganne | heh | 12:47 |
| morninganne | yes please so I can ban the word extensions (I kid, really) | 12:47 |
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| johnthetubaguy | morninganne: so the API says extensions | 12:48 |
| morninganne | johnthetubaguy: where | 12:48 |
| morninganne | docs or code? | 12:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | / extenions | 12:48 |
| johnthetubaguy | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/api/openstack/compute/plugins/v3/extension_info.py. | 12:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats the v2.1 version | 12:49 |
| morninganne | oh in the API resource, got it. did y'all have a name debate about /capabilities or anything like that? | 12:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | it was added years ago right | 12:49 |
| morninganne | (might be too late, just trying to fill in my history knowledge) | 12:49 |
| morninganne | johnthetubaguy: to 2.0, sure :) | 12:49 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats just keeping compatibility with the old API | 12:49 |
| morninganne | johnthetubaguy: oh ok, I get it. yeah | 12:50 |
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| * alex_xu lose the context... | 12:50 | |
| morninganne | johnthetubaguy: could add a 2nd resource called /capabilities some day | 12:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | we didn't want to add it, but yeah, its required | 12:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | we are talking about dropping it | 12:50 |
| morninganne | alex_xu: oh I'm just trying to eliminate the word extensions but it's a resource in the API | 12:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | it doesn't mean anything much any more | 12:50 |
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| morninganne | johnthetubaguy: cool, that's what I'm looking for | 12:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | but yeah, thats the spec we discussed about | 12:50 |
| johnthetubaguy | above^ | 12:50 |
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| johnthetubaguy | basically add a microversion to drop /extensions | 12:51 |
| alex_xu | morninganne: yea, it just for v2.0 user switch to v2.1 smooth, will drop in the future | 12:51 |
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| morninganne | ok | 12:51 |
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| morninganne | :thumbsup" | 12:51 |
| morninganne | heh I can't type | 12:51 |
| johnthetubaguy | I thought we were basically agreeing | 12:51 |
| morninganne | ayup | 12:51 |
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| morninganne | I mostly just seek understanding when I question :) | 12:51 |
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| morninganne | not arguing :) | 12:51 |
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| johnthetubaguy | morninganne: me too, generally | 12:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | :) | 12:52 |
| alex_xu | ok, cool, so for l2, two items: remove v3 and api doc, any question? | 12:52 |
| alex_xu | sorry, remove extension | 12:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | anyways, I think we can have a single doc that covers both v2.0 and v2.1 and v2.2, in theory | 12:52 |
| johnthetubaguy | but that can be the new doc for v2.1 I guess | 12:53 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yea, that is the goal | 12:53 |
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| johnthetubaguy | once the doc covers v2.0 well enough, it replaces the old one, just like the code :) | 12:53 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: cool, just making sure we all thinking the same thing there | 12:53 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yea | 12:54 |
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| alex_xu | do we still have question for Liberty-2 works items? | 12:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | nothing from me | 12:56 |
| alex_xu | ok, cool, no question | 12:56 |
| alex_xu | #action alex_xu Jeffrey4l works on remove extensions | 12:56 |
| alex_xu | #action alex_xu help morninganne on nova api doc | 12:57 |
| morninganne | sweet thanks alex_xu | 12:57 |
| alex_xu | morninganne: np :) | 12:57 |
| alex_xu | let's moving on | 12:57 |
| johnthetubaguy | awesomeness | 12:57 |
| alex_xu | #topic open | 12:57 |
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| alex_xu | two items I listed, hope api team help non-priority feature review, for the api impact feature | 12:58 |
| alex_xu | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/068815.html | 12:58 |
| alex_xu | I checked just few items | 12:58 |
| alex_xu | and some of them is not ready for review | 12:58 |
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| alex_xu | and there are some api-wg guideline is closed to merge, it worth to review | 12:59 |
| alex_xu | #link API-WG guideline review http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-July/068682.html | 12:59 |
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| * alex_xu just reivew part of those guideline~ | 12:59 | |
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| alex_xu | any more open? if no, then we can let johnthetubaguy go to lunch~ | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | 3... | 13:00 |
| alex_xu | 2.. | 13:00 |
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| alex_xu | 1. | 13:00 |
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| alex_xu | thanks all! | 13:01 |
| alex_xu | #endmeeting | 13:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Jul 10 13:01:17 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2015/nova_api.2015-07-10-12.00.html | 13:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2015/nova_api.2015-07-10-12.00.txt | 13:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2015/nova_api.2015-07-10-12.00.log.html | 13:01 |
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| raildo | any hmt/quotas guy here? :) | 16:00 |
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| rodrigods | just you :P | 16:01 |
| ericksonsantos | \o | 16:01 |
| raildo | :( | 16:01 |
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| sajeesh | hi | 16:02 |
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| raildo | #startmeeting hierarchical_multitenancy | 16:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Jul 10 16:02:26 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is raildo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: hierarchical_multitenancy)" | 16:02 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'hierarchical_multitenancy' | 16:02 |
| raildo | hi all | 16:02 |
| ericksonsantos | Hi | 16:02 |
| raildo | #topic review of action items | 16:03 |
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| raildo | i tought that we only have one action item in the last meeting | 16:03 |
| sajeesh | yes | 16:03 |
| raildo | "raildo will take a look in the patch and will fix it #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182140/" | 16:03 |
| sajeesh | ok | 16:03 |
| raildo | I take a look on this patch, the problem is not easy to solve. | 16:04 |
| sajeesh | i know :-) | 16:04 |
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| raildo | me and rodrigods tested the nova behaviour and we see that in the nova site works correctly with the tempest tests | 16:05 |
| sajeesh | ok | 16:05 |
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| raildo | now, we are trying to figure out what is wrong in the tempest test and trying understand how to verify/change the project_id in the nova call | 16:06 |
| raildo | and fix the test | 16:06 |
| raildo | I think that we need one or two days to finish this | 16:06 |
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| vilobhmm | hi all | 16:07 |
| sajeesh | ok | 16:07 |
| raildo | hi vilobhmm | 16:07 |
| ericksonsantos | hi, vilobhmm | 16:07 |
| sajeesh | hi vilobh | 16:07 |
| raildo | so I'll readd the action item, to keep with this for the next meeting | 16:07 |
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| sajeesh | ok | 16:07 |
| vilobhmm | sorry raildo I missed but what is this action item about | 16:07 |
| raildo | vilobhmm: raildo will take a look in the patch and will fix it #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182140/ | 16:08 |
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| vilobhmm | raildo : ok thanks | 16:08 |
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| raildo | #action raildo wiil keep working to fix the #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182140/ | 16:08 |
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| raildo | #topic nova code status | 16:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "nova code status (Meeting topic: hierarchical_multitenancy)" | 16:09 | |
| raildo | sajeesh: - split of patches | 16:09 |
| sajeesh | I have splited the code | 16:09 |
| sajeesh | Now there are 7 patches | 16:10 |
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| sajeesh | I have to upload two more patches | 16:10 |
| sajeesh | It is ready...I have to upload only | 16:10 |
| ericksonsantos | what patches? | 16:10 |
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| vilobhmm | ericksonsantos : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nested-quota-driver-api | 16:11 |
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| sajeesh | api support for v3 and v2 calls | 16:11 |
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| sajeesh | presents everything is done in a single patches which makes the number of lines of code to more 1000 | 16:12 |
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| sajeesh | more than 1000 | 16:12 |
| ericksonsantos | sajeesh, I mean... what are the patches you have to update? | 16:12 |
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| sajeesh | erickson: now lot of functionalites are in a single patch | 16:13 |
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| sajeesh | just splitting them into multple patches to ease the review process | 16:13 |
| vilobhmm | sajeesh : do you mean to say are you breaking https://review.openstack.org/#/c/149828 into multiple patches | 16:13 |
| ericksonsantos | sajeesh, I saw you have updated some of them and I've started reviewing | 16:14 |
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| sajeesh | eirckson..you are right | 16:14 |
| sajeesh | vilobh, yes | 16:14 |
| vilobhmm | ok | 16:14 |
| sajeesh | it is too big | 16:14 |
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| sajeesh | I will not change the code . just splitting only | 16:15 |
| raildo | sajeesh: - avoiding code duplication | 16:15 |
| ericksonsantos | sajeesh, ok | 16:15 |
| sajeesh | yes...I am doing that | 16:15 |
| vilobhmm | ok… | 16:15 |
| raildo | sajeesh: What you are doing to avoinding this, when you are creating a new driver? | 16:15 |
| sajeesh | ? | 16:16 |
| vilobhmm | raildo : do you mean how do you avoid code duplication ? | 16:16 |
| raildo | yes | 16:16 |
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| ericksonsantos | sajeesh, I have sent a review about code duplication | 16:16 |
| sajeesh | raildo, inheritance I am using | 16:16 |
| sajeesh | erickson, I have seen it | 16:17 |
| raildo | I mean, now that we aren't the approach to create a hole new driver | 16:17 |
| vilobhmm | raildo : one way would be that we have a common base class QuotaDriver from which class NestedQuotaDriver and class DbQuotaDriver will inherit | 16:17 |
| sajeesh | new driver inherits from the old driver | 16:17 |
| vilobhmm | since most of the functionality is shared between class NestedQuotaDriver and class DbQuotaDriver the common functionality can reside in base class QuotaDriver | 16:18 |
| sajeesh | I have to override around 5 methods ..that is all | 16:18 |
| raildo | vilobhmm: sajeesh great | 16:18 |
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| sajeesh | vilobh, I am keeping the DbQuotaDriver untouched | 16:19 |
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| raildo | sajeesh: and about tests for this new driver? Are you already implemented it? | 16:19 |
| ericksonsantos | sajeesh, you can go this way, but make sure you will use inheritance power | 16:19 |
| vilobhmm | sajeesh : I would say rather than going with olddriver—> new driver (new driver inheriting from old driver) we should go with olddriver and newdriver both inheriting from a common driver that way it will be good if we plan to add any more new drivers in future | 16:19 |
| vilobhmm | anything is good i just feel 2nd approach is more scaalable…but up to you | 16:20 |
| vilobhmm | you have a better idea | 16:20 |
| sajeesh | raildo: I have implemented monkey patching in the existing test cases | 16:20 |
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| ericksonsantos | vilobhmm, I think that the common driver is already the DbQuotaDriver | 16:20 |
| sajeesh | They are passing the tests | 16:20 |
| sajeesh | erickson +1 | 16:20 |
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| sajeesh | raildo, they are passing the tests | 16:21 |
| sajeesh | now I have to add more uses cases | 16:21 |
| vilobhmm | sajeesh : great! | 16:21 |
| raildo | sajeesh: nice | 16:21 |
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| ericksonsantos | sajeesh, can you be more specific? | 16:22 |
| sajeesh | raildo: I will upload the code with the modified test cases today | 16:22 |
| raildo | #action sajeesh will upload the code with the modified test cases today | 16:22 |
| sajeesh | erickson, can you plz make it clear | 16:22 |
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| sajeesh | erickson: I have patched the existing test cases and they are passing the tests | 16:23 |
| sajeesh | but they are meant for non-nested projects | 16:23 |
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| ericksonsantos | sajeesh, hmm... I see | 16:24 |
| sajeesh | now more tests need to added for nested projects | 16:24 |
| ericksonsantos | sure | 16:24 |
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| raildo | #topic implementation of monkey patches | 16:24 |
| sajeesh | it is a bit time consuming thing ....since we need to have mock hierarchy with values | 16:24 |
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| raildo | sajeesh: so you probably will need help with this, right? | 16:25 |
| sajeesh | yes....to make it faster | 16:25 |
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| ericksonsantos | sajeesh, how did you do in order to test keystone calls? | 16:26 |
| sajeesh | I have patched it | 16:27 |
| sajeesh | so that the existing tests will be passed | 16:27 |
| ericksonsantos | ok | 16:28 |
| sajeesh | I have patched two methods only | 16:28 |
| sajeesh | not ...keystone as a whole | 16:28 |
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| ericksonsantos | nice | 16:29 |
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| raildo | sajeesh: so, do you have a script or something in mind to create the use cases for the tests? | 16:30 |
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| raildo | sajeesh: something to make easier other people help you with this? | 16:30 |
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| sajeesh | I have made two test cases...for that I am following the existing method | 16:30 |
| sajeesh | dummy values. | 16:31 |
| sajeesh | but for the remaining , I am planning to have script | 16:31 |
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| sajeesh | I have something in my mind | 16:31 |
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| sajeesh | will communicate it by tomorrow | 16:32 |
| raildo | sajeesh: great, I think that we can talk more about this in skype :) | 16:32 |
| raildo | during the week | 16:32 |
| sajeesh | means I will make a fake heirarchy...so that others can help me effectively | 16:33 |
| sajeesh | raildo....thanks | 16:33 |
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| raildo | sajeesh: anything more about the nova side that you want to talk? | 16:34 |
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| sajeesh | we can contact through skype | 16:34 |
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| raildo | ok | 16:34 |
| sajeesh | nothing more from my side | 16:34 |
| raildo | #topic status of cinder code: what's left to be done? | 16:34 |
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| raildo | vilobhmm: ericksonsantos ^ | 16:35 |
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| vilobhmm | For cinder https://review.openstack.org/#/c/194406/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/185704/ got merged....continue working on nested quota driver change that I left off before my vacation....started back with it... | 16:35 |
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| raildo | btw congrats for the merged patches :) | 16:35 |
| vilobhmm | should have the changes ready by July 25th (including the unit test) | 16:35 |
| ericksonsantos | I think the next step we have to do is to get informations from keystone (parent_id and childs) using keystoneclient and test it | 16:35 |
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| vilobhmm | raildo : thanks….ericsonsantos has been really helpful in pushing these patches when i was away…also thanks sajeesh for the reviews | 16:36 |
| sajeesh | :-) | 16:36 |
| ericksonsantos | vilobhmm, :) | 16:36 |
| ericksonsantos | vilobhmm, when are you planning to upload the new patch? | 16:37 |
| raildo | ericksonsantos: this is not already implemented, right? | 16:37 |
| vilobhmm | yes once we figure out how the update path will work like scoping tokens etc…we should be good | 16:37 |
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| vilobhmm | ericksonsantos : end of coming week most prob | 16:37 |
| ericksonsantos | raildo, not yet | 16:38 |
| raildo | vilobhmm: ericksonsantos will keep working with you in the cinder side, right? | 16:38 |
| vilobhmm | sure | 16:38 |
| vilobhmm | more the better :) | 16:38 |
| raildo | I think that the next steps can be understand if cinder make some similar keystone call | 16:38 |
| ericksonsantos | vilobhmm, nice! | 16:39 |
| ericksonsantos | raildo, no, it's not. | 16:39 |
| raildo | hum | 16:39 |
| ericksonsantos | raildo, I think the first patch wich is trying to do so is #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143645/ | 16:39 |
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| ericksonsantos | raildo, so, we have a good start point. | 16:40 |
| raildo | ericksonsantos: great :) | 16:40 |
| vilobhmm | ericsonsantos, raildo : again how will this patch help us if you can shed some light | 16:40 |
| vilobhmm | not able to get it from the description | 16:41 |
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| ericksonsantos | vilobhmm, this patch is making keystone call | 16:41 |
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| vilobhmm | right | 16:41 |
| raildo | ericksonsantos: vilobhmm do you suggest some action point for your side for the next meeting? | 16:41 |
| ericksonsantos | vilobhmm, so we can make our calls based on how they are doing it | 16:41 |
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| * raildo need to goind deep more in the cinder code | 16:42 | |
| vilobhmm | raildo : we both can make sure this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143645/ proceeds and gets merged | 16:42 |
| vilobhmm | by coming week | 16:42 |
| vilobhmm | as it will be helpful for our work | 16:42 |
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| raildo | sounds good to me :) | 16:42 |
| ericksonsantos | raildo, vilobhmm yes | 16:42 |
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| vilobhmm | along with that vilobhmm will propose the initial patch for nested quota driver if possible | 16:43 |
| raildo | #action vilobhmm and ericksonsantos will make sure this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/143645/ proceeds and gets merged | 16:43 |
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| vilobhmm | makes sense | 16:43 |
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| ericksonsantos | raildo, vilobhmm I think that I can send a patch with keystone calls to cinder, and you (vilobhmm) can send your patch above mine, what do you think? | 16:44 |
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| vilobhmm | ericksonsantos : works | 16:44 |
| vilobhmm | for me | 16:44 |
| ericksonsantos | since keystone calls will be needed anyway | 16:44 |
| vilobhmm | sure | 16:45 |
| ericksonsantos | vilobhmm, nice :) | 16:45 |
| vilobhmm | lets do it ! | 16:45 |
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| raildo | #action ericksonsantos will send a patch with keystone calls to cinder | 16:45 |
| vilobhmm | raildo : cinder will also need policy.json changes right | 16:45 |
| vilobhmm | for cloud admin and root adming | 16:45 |
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| raildo | vilobhmm: right... | 16:46 |
| vilobhmm | since these are small steps better to finish them off before procedding to major chunks IMHO | 16:46 |
| vilobhmm | so you can add that too in the action item | 16:46 |
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| vilobhmm | its a small change will finish that off as well | 16:46 |
| raildo | the only problem that I see is that this roles needs to be created in the keystone side | 16:46 |
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| ericksonsantos | raildo, ++ | 16:46 |
| raildo | vilobhmm: to this works... so we are kind of creating a "role dependence" | 16:47 |
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| raildo | for the quota code | 16:47 |
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| sajeesh | yes | 16:47 |
| vilobhmm | raildo, sajeesh, eriksonsantos : since these are small steps better to finish them off before procedding to major chunks IMHO | 16:47 |
| raildo | I mean, if we don't have this exacly role, with this name in keystone, the nova/cinder doesn't work. I don't like this idea... | 16:48 |
| vilobhmm | sorry pasted again | 16:48 |
| vilobhmm | so why don't we have a common change in keystone so that both nova and cinder can benefit from it | 16:48 |
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| sajeesh | vilobh ++ | 16:49 |
| ericksonsantos | raildo, neither do I, maybe we have to think a bit more and try to come out with a better solution, if any | 16:49 |
| raildo | vilobhmm: that something that I want to do, but this not be simple to make(for liberty) | 16:49 |
| sajeesh | I know | 16:49 |
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| vilobhmm | raildo : lets jump of to keystone channel after our meeting or you can drop an email to openstack-dev and see if we can get this in…since from nova and cinder side people have commited for nested quota and will need help from keystone to get this going | 16:50 |
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| vilobhmm | raildo : requesting you since you have worked with keystone | 16:50 |
| vilobhmm | and none of us have | 16:50 |
| sajeesh | raildo: although I have more roles, role admin will work, even if others won't | 16:51 |
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| raildo | vilobhmm: I think that we can discuss a little more about this in the skype during a couple days, and we can talk in the keystone channel | 16:51 |
| sajeesh | +1 | 16:51 |
| ericksonsantos | raildo, ++ | 16:51 |
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| vilobhmm | sure raildo… | 16:51 |
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| raildo | just to trying find a better solution between us :) | 16:52 |
| vilobhmm | Just that I don't want ericksonsantos or either of us to block because of this, so just being cautious :) | 16:52 |
| vilobhmm | totally raildo | 16:52 |
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| raildo | vilobhmm: exactly | 16:52 |
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| vilobhmm | when do we have the skype meetings | 16:53 |
| vilobhmm | i haven't attended one since i was away on vacations | 16:53 |
| raildo | #action ALL discuss more about new roles in nova and cider, and try find a good solution to send for the keystone folks | 16:53 |
| vilobhmm | ++ | 16:53 |
| ericksonsantos | vilobhmm, I think you are not in the skype group yet | 16:53 |
| raildo | I will talk with schwicke to add you in the skype group | 16:54 |
| vilobhmm | oh okay… | 16:54 |
| raildo | vilobhmm: ^ | 16:54 |
| vilobhmm | please do | 16:54 |
| raildo | great | 16:54 |
| vilobhmm | thanks raildo | 16:54 |
| raildo | we have 5 more minutes | 16:54 |
| raildo | #topic AOB | 16:54 |
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| vilobhmm | nothing from my side | 16:55 |
| sajeesh | nothing from my side too | 16:55 |
| ericksonsantos | ^ | 16:55 |
| raildo | ok, so thank you guys and have a nice week :) | 16:55 |
| vilobhmm | its great to work with all of you ! :) thanks again guys for all the help | 16:55 |
| sajeesh | raildo...thanks a lot for conducting the meeting | 16:55 |
| raildo | see you in the skype | 16:55 |
| vilobhmm | you too raildo! | 16:55 |
| raildo | sajeesh: np :) | 16:55 |
| vilobhmm | and all | 16:55 |
| raildo | #endmeeting | 16:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Jul 10 16:55:55 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hierarchical_multitenancy/2015/hierarchical_multitenancy.2015-07-10-16.02.html | 16:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hierarchical_multitenancy/2015/hierarchical_multitenancy.2015-07-10-16.02.txt | 16:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hierarchical_multitenancy/2015/hierarchical_multitenancy.2015-07-10-16.02.log.html | 16:56 |
| sajeesh | Thanks to all :) | 16:56 |
| ericksonsantos | see you, guys | 16:56 |
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| geoffarnold | #startmeeting mercadorproject | 16:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Jul 10 16:59:42 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is geoffarnold. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:59 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mercadorproject' | 16:59 |
| geoffarnold | hi all | 17:01 |
| shaleh | what is on the agenda today geoffarnold? | 17:01 |
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| geoffarnold | not a lot... still absorbing the path naming issues and the quota work that was discussed in the HMT meeting just now | 17:01 |
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| geoffarnold | How many of us will be at the Keystone meeting next week? | 17:02 |
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| geoffarnold | I will | 17:02 |
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| gyee | \o | 17:03 |
| geoffarnold | I apologize for being a bit distracted.... just came out of an internal reorg meeting, still trying to figure out who's doing what | 17:03 |
| geoffarnold | No impact on Mercador, just internal Cisco stuff | 17:04 |
| shaleh | understood | 17:04 |
| okrieg | the value of being in academia, no more re-orgs | 17:04 |
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| geoffarnold | lol | 17:04 |
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| gyee | quota is intercloud for now right, intracloud will be tough | 17:06 |
| geoffarnold | from the HMT discussion just now, we're making progress on quotas for nova and cinder... is there any work on neutron quotas? | 17:06 |
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| geoffarnold | i'd have thought it was the other way, gyee | 17:06 |
| geoffarnold | intracloud is the normal case | 17:06 |
| gyee | geoffarnold, you're right | 17:06 |
| gyee | but for mercador, its intercloud | 17:06 |
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| geoffarnold | ideally the publisher would set quotas for the domain which contains the virtual region | 17:07 |
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| geoffarnold | and the subscriber could set subquotas for projects created within that | 17:08 |
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| shaleh | geoffarnold: agreed. | 17:08 |
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| gyee | but enforcement is done at the subscriber right? | 17:08 |
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| geoffarnold | well.... | 17:09 |
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| geoffarnold | given the way nova does quotas today, it would have to be enforced at the publisher | 17:09 |
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| geoffarnold | because quota compliance is still a last-minute JIT thing, isn't it? | 17:09 |
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| geoffarnold | i.e. it's triggered by the nova-compute agent, not the nova-api | 17:10 |
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| shaleh | quotas are going to be a problem once this ship starts sailing | 17:10 |
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| gyee | I don't think distributed enforcement is reliable | 17:11 |
| geoffarnold | if quotas work at all for HMT, we should be able to make them work here | 17:11 |
| shaleh | we just have to ensure that we don't paint ourselves in a corner is all | 17:11 |
| geoffarnold | gyee +1 | 17:11 |
| okrieg | can someone point me to the quota support going into HMT? | 17:12 |
| okrieg | is there really a concern "work at all"? | 17:12 |
| geoffarnold | okrieg: check the log here: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/hierarchical_multitenancy/2015/hierarchical_multitenancy.2015-07-10-16.02.log.html | 17:12 |
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| geoffarnold | we may have to proxy the "create project" call and do some funky stuff | 17:13 |
| geoffarnold | in addition to quotas, there was one topic that i wanted to raise here.... multi-cloud testing | 17:14 |
| geoffarnold | how does the keystone-to-keystone stuff get tested in the standard workflow? | 17:15 |
| geoffarnold | since it depends on having two independent keystones? | 17:15 |
| okrieg | we have been setting up some automation around setting up testbed for k-to-K testing for the mix and match federation stuff | 17:16 |
| gyee | K2K functionality is not being tested right now I don't think, unless stevemar disagrees | 17:16 |
| okrieg | we should walk through the testing environment we have set up here, see if you can re-use it | 17:16 |
| geoffarnold | i have this cartoon image of Jenkins with a headache | 17:17 |
| gyee | hah | 17:17 |
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| geoffarnold | okrieg: let's put that on the agenda for our mtg on Monday | 17:17 |
| okrieg | geofarnold: sure | 17:18 |
| geoffarnold | has anyone talked to infra about multicloud testing? | 17:18 |
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| okrieg | geoffarnold: sure | 17:18 |
| geoffarnold | and their response? | 17:18 |
| okrieg | sorry, we didn't talk to them, (that was respose to previous message), we just been rolling our own multi-cloud infrastructure for dev/test | 17:19 |
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| geoffarnold | ok. i'd hoped K2K would have provoked that conversation with infra; i'll raise the topic and report back | 17:20 |
| okrieg | thanks, that would be great | 17:20 |
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| gyee | I'll talk to our guys to see if they want to share the ansible/chef scripts upstream | 17:21 |
| geoffarnold | thanks | 17:21 |
| raildo | hey | 17:21 |
| gyee | raildo! | 17:21 |
| geoffarnold | i imagine you built up a fair amount of testing stuff for the demo | 17:21 |
| geoffarnold | raildo! | 17:21 |
| shaleh | geoffarnold: I have been wondering the same thing. A realistic setup for mercador is around 3 full Stacks. | 17:21 |
| geoffarnold | will you be in Boston next week? | 17:21 |
| gyee | geoffarnold, we have some scripts internally when we deploy K2K to public cloud | 17:22 |
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| raildo | geoffarnold: no :( I don't have money to go to boston | 17:22 |
| gyee | we may need legal to review them before sharing them upstream | 17:22 |
| gyee | standard operating procedure :( | 17:22 |
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| geoffarnold | so gyee, are you doing K2K between Helion private cloud and Helion public (the kind of federation pattern we talked about this week)? | 17:23 |
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| gyee | geoffarnold, yes, on our roadmap | 17:23 |
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| gyee | cloudbusting | 17:23 |
| geoffarnold | raildo: i hope we'll webex you in (or whatever technology we're using - okrieg?) | 17:24 |
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| raildo | geoffarnold: awesome! I can use anyone haha | 17:24 |
| gyee | geoffarnold, public cloud as a service provider has been running on our public cloud since Liberty, its tagged as beta/poc feature right now | 17:24 |
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| geoffarnold | excellent, gyee - thx | 17:25 |
| okrieg | let me check what the team has set up (even though we are hosting, my Marriage is at stake if I am not sitting with my wife in Barcelona next week, so won't be there) | 17:26 |
| raildo | okrieg: I was read the log here, about the quota support to HMT, we are workng to provide nested quotas in nova and cinder in liberty, so the project_admin in a parent project will be able do update the quota for the subprojects | 17:26 |
| geoffarnold | raildo: is that the main work that's still outstanding for reseller? | 17:26 |
| geoffarnold | or are their other items? | 17:27 |
| okrieg | raildo: perfect! | 17:27 |
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| geoffarnold | okrieg: I'm happy to provide WebEx if necessary | 17:27 |
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| raildo | geoffarnold: for now, we are working to finish the last patches about reseller, there is to include the is_domain information in the token response, and update the keystone plicy.json to use is_domain | 17:28 |
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| raildo | geoffarnold: so, in a near future we can handle with a project.is_domain=True using only project scope tokens | 17:28 |
| geoffarnold | Oops their -> there (bleepin' spelling correction) | 17:29 |
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| okrieg | geoffarnold: will check with the team has set up, but nobody suggested before I think. We have some big screens, but in another room, do we want to have some sessions with webex, or the whole meedup? | 17:29 |
| raildo | scoped* | 17:29 |
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| gyee | okrieg, there's a T line that goes from airport to BU right? | 17:30 |
| geoffarnold | I guess we should ask the PTL.... I like having a WebEx running the whole time | 17:30 |
| geoffarnold | gyee: not directly - change at govvt center | 17:31 |
| geoffarnold | govt | 17:31 |
| geoffarnold | blue line to green line "B" | 17:31 |
| raildo | geoffarnold: ++ it would be great for us here in Brazil :) | 17:31 |
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| gyee | I vote for next midcycle in Brazil | 17:31 |
| shaleh | ++ | 17:32 |
| raildo | gyee: ++++++ | 17:32 |
| shaleh | :-) | 17:32 |
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| geoffarnold | let me ping morgan; it's easiest if there's a dedicated laptop for the webex; i can do that | 17:32 |
| geoffarnold | and Brazil FTW!!!! | 17:32 |
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| raildo | I'll propose for the next PTL this point :) | 17:32 |
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| okrieg | geoffarnold: let me know what morgan says, and will see if we can set up a big screen if he wants | 17:34 |
| geoffarnold | raildo: do we have a wiki page that summarizes the reseller mode from end to end? i couldn't find one | 17:34 |
| geoffarnold | okrieg: wilco | 17:34 |
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| raildo | geoffarnold: nope, btw, I start writing a post blog about reseller | 17:35 |
| raildo | geoffarnold: I'll send to you asap (probably next week) | 17:36 |
| geoffarnold | looking forward to it. let's cache a copy in the wiki | 17:36 |
| raildo | geoffarnold: sure | 17:36 |
| geoffarnold | i hadn't realized that project scope token stuff wasn't there it - we'll build on it | 17:37 |
| geoffarnold | it->yet | 17:37 |
| geoffarnold | okrieg: offtopic: is parking as hopeless as i'd expect? shall i plan public transport | 17:38 |
| okrieg | YES | 17:38 |
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| * geoffarnold finds his Charlie card, resolves to reload it | 17:39 | |
| okrieg | they just started a new building in the parking lot beside us, and are doing construction in the next nearest parking lot. Even if we arrange parking passes for people, the probablilty of getting a spot is low :-( | 17:39 |
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| okrieg | I bike, or come in at 7AM | 17:40 |
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| geoffarnold | 7AM is OK (even if my body is still on Pacific time), but biking in Boston :-( | 17:40 |
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| gyee | looks like its going to rain next week too | 17:42 |
| geoffarnold | OK guys, I need to wrap this early and go to find out what that reorg was all about. Apologies. | 17:42 |
| geoffarnold | sweet | 17:42 |
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| geoffarnold | thanks | 17:42 |
| gyee | geoffarnold, re-org = promotion for somebody :) | 17:42 |
| geoffarnold | #endmeeting | 17:42 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Jul 10 17:42:52 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:42 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mercadorproject/2015/mercadorproject.2015-07-10-16.59.html | 17:42 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mercadorproject/2015/mercadorproject.2015-07-10-16.59.txt | 17:42 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mercadorproject/2015/mercadorproject.2015-07-10-16.59.log.html | 17:42 |
| raildo | geoffarnold: have a nice weekend :) | 17:43 |
| geoffarnold | somebody getting kicked sideways, I hope | 17:43 |
| geoffarnold | you too | 17:43 |
| gyee | my glass is half full :) | 17:43 |
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| okrieg | geoffarnold: when I was in industry, being kicked sideways was called a promotino | 17:48 |
| okrieg | promotion | 17:48 |
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