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| ttx | #startmeeting releaseteam | 13:06 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 31 13:06:52 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:06 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 13:06 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 13:06 |
| ttx | dhellmann: o/ | 13:06 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 13:06 |
| ttx | Posted agenda on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseTeam | 13:07 |
| ttx | err | 13:07 |
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| ttx | on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Release_Cycle_Management | 13:07 |
| ttx | #topic Liberty-3 coordination | 13:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Liberty-3 coordination (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 13:07 | |
| ttx | I prepared an etherpad for coordination | 13:07 |
| ttx | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/liberty-3 | 13:08 |
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| ttx | A few additional things compared to l2 | 13:08 |
| dhellmann | good, that has been working out well the past 2 milestones | 13:08 |
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| ttx | I created the rc1 milestones so that PTLs can push things there | 13:08 |
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| ttx | ideally we want them to track FFEs using the -rc1 milestone pages | 13:09 |
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| ttx | that gives us a good idea of how far they are | 13:09 |
| ttx | so we want to communicate that | 13:09 |
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| dhellmann | ok | 13:09 |
| ttx | We want to move away from being the gatekeepers on FFEs | 13:09 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 13:09 |
| ttx | Instead, we want to educate on why it is a good idea to stop adding features | 13:10 |
| ttx | so that they internalize such decisions | 13:10 |
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| ttx | There is a trade-off for when you cut the release branch for liberty | 13:10 |
| ttx | hmm, one thing at a time | 13:11 |
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| ttx | So the first thing is... if you want people to test, focus on bugs and not have the carpet constantly swept from under their feet, you need to stop adding features where that testing happens | 13:11 |
| ttx | This is what the feature freeze is about | 13:12 |
| dhellmann | right | 13:12 |
| ttx | Now you could do that on a release branch | 13:12 |
| ttx | and never freeze master | 13:12 |
| ttx | BUT at the early stages of that bugfixing spree, the backport ends up being costly | 13:12 |
| dhellmann | yeah, we want to fix as many bugs as possible before branching | 13:13 |
| ttx | so it's simpler (for them, not for us!) to have a first stage where they freeze master and fix directly there | 13:13 |
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| ttx | but they should decide when the pain of freezing is beyong the cost of backporting | 13:14 |
| ttx | i.e. when the bugfix spree slows down | 13:14 |
| ttx | traditionally we used RC1 to do that | 13:14 |
| ttx | we'd signal that most critical known bugs are fixed, tag RC1 and cut the release branch from there | 13:14 |
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| ttx | but the RC1 (branch is release quality) is not necessarily "when the pain of freezing is beyond the cost of backporting" | 13:15 |
| ttx | so technically we could stagger the two | 13:15 |
| ttx | An option I want to discuss in next topic | 13:15 |
| dhellmann | ok | 13:16 |
| ttx | So.. back to the l3 page | 13:16 |
| ttx | I'll check with clarkb that the crosscheck is in | 13:16 |
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| ttx | I added a few talking points around FFE and RC1, too, feel free to add | 13:16 |
| ttx | On the sync tomorrow we need to make l3 shine, but also check that liberty-rc1 pages match the FFEs they want to allow | 13:17 |
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| dhellmann | ok, is that FFE status review on the checklist? | 13:18 |
| ttx | We know that mestery won't be around... I know thingee is at Burning Man and can't remember if he named anyone to cover for him | 13:18 |
| ttx | dhellmann: no it's not on the checklist (yet) | 13:18 |
| ttx | the rc1 milestones were just created so they are probably crap-free at this stage | 13:18 |
| ttx | so it's more that we need to remember the PTLs that we'll use the RC1 page to communicate what's blocking RC1 | 13:19 |
| dhellmann | ok | 13:19 |
| ttx | and also reiterate that there is no clear date for RC1, it's when they say it's ok | 13:19 |
| dhellmann | ok, that should be easy enough to communicate during office hours | 13:19 |
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| ttx | Questions on l3 before we move to next topic ? | 13:20 |
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| dhellmann | I think I've got all of that. I'll read your office hour logs tomorrow when I come online to make sure | 13:20 |
| ttx | right, and I'll add to the checklist when I realize I missed things | 13:21 |
| dhellmann | k | 13:21 |
| ttx | #topic Considering separating stable branch cutting from RC1 | 13:21 |
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| ttx | So, while I was polishing my explanation I realized there is no clear connection nor obligation to cut the branch at RC1, that can be done anytime before | 13:22 |
| dhellmann | oh, one thing - do we tag something this week, and then have RC1 later, or is there no tag until RC1? | 13:22 |
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| ttx | there is a 0b3 tag | 13:22 |
| dhellmann | ok, so we're tagging this week regardless, the rest of that was just explaining the path to rc1 | 13:22 |
| ttx | yep | 13:22 |
| dhellmann | k | 13:23 |
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| ttx | The reason we have been doing it at the same time in the past was to try to force people to work on bugs until we reach "good-enough" | 13:23 |
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| ttx | so it's a community reason, not a technical one | 13:23 |
| dhellmann | right | 13:24 |
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| ttx | Do you think we should keep it in sync ? | 13:24 |
| dhellmann | it makes sense to encourage that, but I don't know if we should require it | 13:25 |
| ttx | yeah, probably better to encourage it | 13:25 |
| jokke_ | It would make life of those who contribute to multiple projects easier | 13:25 |
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| ttx | so we can speak of the two things ("good-enough -> RC1" and "cost of backport < cost of freeze -> stable cut") | 13:26 |
| ttx | separately | 13:26 |
| ttx | but then say that a good way to encourage people to focus on bugs until RC1 is to wait as much as possible before cutting the branch | 13:26 |
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| dhellmann | that seems good | 13:27 |
| ttx | (so stable cut decision is: when cost of backport < cost of freeze /and/ no more need to artifically focus work on bugfixing | 13:27 |
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| ttx | #agreed stable cut doesn't have to match RC1, but we encourage PTLs to defer cutting the release branch as long as possible to get people focused on bugfixes | 13:29 |
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| ttx | Questions on this topic ? | 13:29 |
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| dhellmann | I don't think so. I'll review all of this by the end of the day to make sure, but I think it's clear. It seems mostly like what we've done in the past, with the difference of allowing RC1 and stable branching to happen separately. | 13:30 |
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| ttx | #topic Status: Write tool to help finding the $SERIES versions | 13:31 |
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| ttx | So you've made great progress on the pages | 13:31 |
| dhellmann | thanks | 13:31 |
| dhellmann | we need to start publishing that somewhere | 13:31 |
| ttx | I deally we would show the "services" above the libraries (rather than in alpha order) | 13:31 |
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| dhellmann | did you have a url in mind? | 13:31 |
| dhellmann | ah, ok, I can make a note to work on that | 13:31 |
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| ttx | Also wondering if we should not showcase "the release at the end of the cycle" somehow | 13:33 |
| ttx | i.e. put the one that happened to be at the end of the cycle in bold or something | 13:33 |
| dhellmann | vs the "most recent"? | 13:33 |
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| ttx | no, we should still order them and display "most recent" | 13:33 |
| dhellmann | so both? | 13:33 |
| ttx | but if you look at the whole history it's impossible to find out which was the end of cycle release | 13:34 |
| ttx | i.e. starting where does the stable branch policy take over | 13:34 |
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| dhellmann | oh, I see, the one that is likely to be receiving stable updates | 13:34 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 13:34 |
| dhellmann | I'll think about that | 13:34 |
| dhellmann | it might require a yaml schema update | 13:34 |
| ttx | I think that's very useful for cycle-with-intermediary things | 13:34 |
| ttx | that's the only two comments I had | 13:35 |
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| ttx | Do you think we need/want a CLI tool to query that at some point ? | 13:35 |
| dhellmann | splitting the service vs. libs should be easy with existing tags, the other will take more thought | 13:36 |
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| dhellmann | maybe, but let's wait and see if someone actually asks for it so we can get some requirements based on need | 13:36 |
| dhellmann | it won't be any harder to build later when we know someone wants to use it | 13:36 |
| ttx | dhellmann: yeah, probably needs to be marked on the release yaml somewhere | 13:36 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I'll give that some thought | 13:37 |
| dhellmann | maybe one field in each deliverable file indicating the version number of the start of the stable branch | 13:37 |
| ttx | About publication site, the trick with another domain is that nobody will use it | 13:37 |
| ttx | people still ask for the project team list and won't naturally find governance.o.o | 13:38 |
| dhellmann | http://docs.openstack.org/release ? | 13:38 |
| ttx | or releases yes | 13:38 |
| dhellmann | ok | 13:38 |
| ttx | as a first step that sounds like a better solution | 13:38 |
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| dhellmann | #action dhellmann set up publication of release history to docs.openstack.org/releases | 13:39 |
| ttx | phase out https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Releases | 13:39 |
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| ttx | ok.. next topic? | 13:40 |
| dhellmann | yep | 13:40 |
| ttx | #topic Status: Generate release notes from ren | 13:40 |
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| ttx | reno | 13:40 |
| ttx | Looks like you ran with the idea (great name too) | 13:40 |
| dhellmann | I was out friday, so I still need to catch up on email. Does that look like it will do what we want? | 13:40 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: I had a quick look at the doc, but didn't try it (or looked at the code) | 13:41 |
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| dhellmann | if so, I can work on importing it into gerrit and then add the sphinx integration | 13:41 |
| ttx | doc sounds like it's going in the right direction | 13:41 |
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| ttx | I don't think lifeless commented on it | 13:41 |
| dhellmann | the sample repository that I was using to test the git commits is a better demo for pulling out multiple notes | 13:42 |
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| ttx | Maybe I should spend a bit more time looking into it | 13:42 |
| dhellmann | ok, I'll check in with lifeless later today and see what he thinks | 13:42 |
| ttx | how usable is it at this point | 13:42 |
| dhellmann | there's a command line tool to make a new note file with a unique id, get a list of relevant files by release, and to produce an rst report | 13:43 |
| dhellmann | you can filter the list and report by release(s), but by default it processes an entire branch's history | 13:43 |
| ttx | ok, will give it a try sometime this week | 13:43 |
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| dhellmann | thinking about publishing the docs, I got a little stuck | 13:44 |
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| dhellmann | it's not easy to get all of the notes for all branches at the same time, because the tool has to read the files | 13:44 |
| ttx | #action ttx to have a deeper look at reno | 13:44 |
| dhellmann | so we could either publish the notes separately, or update a static file in master for branch release notes | 13:44 |
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| dhellmann | the latter requires more maintenance from the project teams | 13:46 |
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| ttx | hm | 13:47 |
| dhellmann | the former means setting up a new doc publishing job for stable branches to publish notes somewhere new | 13:47 |
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| dhellmann | or, I could try harder to extract the notes from the various branches | 13:47 |
| dhellmann | maybe I can get the data with git show somehow | 13:48 |
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| ttx | yeah, that's where updating it like we update changelog or authors sounded simpler | 13:48 |
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| dhellmann | both of those only work from the current branch, too, iirc | 13:49 |
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| dhellmann | oh, yeah, I was thinking of the HTML published version -- putting a file in the tarball is no problem with the version we have today | 13:50 |
| ttx | hmm, ok, let's keep that as an open issue | 13:50 |
| ttx | last topic... | 13:50 |
| ttx | #topic Discussion: Move all pre to post in Mitaka | 13:50 |
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| ttx | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mtaka-release-drop-pre-versioning | 13:51 |
| * dhellmann didn't notice the typo in that etherpad name before | 13:51 | |
| ttx | So first part | 13:51 |
| ttx | "Move all projects from pre-versioning using versions declared in setup.cfg to post-versioning using versions specified through tags in git." | 13:52 |
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| ttx | The only issue is the initial tag on the branch | 13:52 |
| dhellmann | I realized that this is going to be easier to do at a point where they are ready for a release anyway | 13:53 |
| ttx | in post-versioning you have to bump versions when you switch branch | 13:53 |
| dhellmann | yes, on master that's true | 13:53 |
| ttx | I mean, in post-versioning you have to push a tag when you cut a branch | 13:54 |
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| ttx | In pre-versioning you have to update setup.cfg | 13:54 |
| dhellmann | oh, yes, right | 13:54 |
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| dhellmann | we've handled that in oslo by picking a release to start the stable branch | 13:54 |
| dhellmann | it works out pretty well for libraries, because it means its a thing that's already out in the world | 13:55 |
| ttx | you stil have to tag two consecutive commits | 13:55 |
| ttx | with different version numbers, which kinda make no sense | 13:56 |
| dhellmann | yes, we branch at x.y.z and then commit to master and tag x.y+1.0 | 13:56 |
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| dhellmann | although I'm not sure how strict we've really been with that, because we don't expect anyone to be installing the libraries from source | 13:56 |
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| ttx | right, it's slightly more of a problem with services which are released less often and where intermediary versions are more significant | 13:57 |
| dhellmann | right | 13:57 |
| ttx | On this part, it's a question of "unifying the processes and tooling" vs. "issuing tags that don't really make that much sense" | 13:58 |
| dhellmann | we could, I guess, use an alpha tag on master instead of a real version | 13:58 |
| ttx | right, so the alpha tag kind of sidesteps the issue | 13:59 |
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| ttx | just trying to see what the chain of events would look like | 13:59 |
| dhellmann | yes, my main motivation is that most everyone is confused about what to do about version numbering around releases and I thought post-versioning was easier to explain -- mixing them is also causing issues for some of the devs | 13:59 |
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| ttx | let's continue that on #openstack-relmgr-office | 13:59 |
| dhellmann | ok | 13:59 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 31 14:00:05 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2015/releaseteam.2015-08-31-13.06.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2015/releaseteam.2015-08-31-13.06.txt | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2015/releaseteam.2015-08-31-13.06.log.html | 14:00 |
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| boris-42 | #startmeeting Rally | 14:11 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 31 14:11:45 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is boris-42. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:11 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Rally)" | 14:11 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rally' | 14:11 |
| e0ne | hi | 14:12 |
| boris-42 | e0ne: hi | 14:12 |
| amaretskiy1 | hi | 14:12 |
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| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: ping | 14:12 |
| oanufriev | hi all | 14:12 |
| boris-42 | andreykurilin: ping | 14:12 |
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| ikhudoshyn | 0/ | 14:12 |
| boris-42 | oanufriev: hi | 14:12 |
| yfried | hi | 14:13 |
| boris-42 | yfried: hi hi | 14:13 |
| albertw1 | hi all | 14:14 |
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| boris-42 | albertw1: hi | 14:15 |
| boris-42 | so let's start | 14:15 |
| boris-42 | #topic Meeting Agenda | 14:15 |
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| janonymous | o/ | 14:16 |
| boris-42 | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Rally#Agenda | 14:16 |
| boris-42 | janonymous: hi | 14:16 |
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| janonymous | hi | 14:16 |
| boris-42 | #topic [amaretskiy] Status for patches related to HTML reports and new charts classes | 14:17 |
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| boris-42 | amaretskiy1: ^ | 14:17 |
| amaretskiy1 | status for reports-related patches is quite short: all these 4 patches looks working and ready for review, so please review them. eom | 14:17 |
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| boris-42 | amaretskiy1: great status but i believe that many of those who is sitting here don't know what are you patches | 14:18 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy1: and what they do | 14:18 |
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| amaretskiy1 | there are significant changes in HTML report processing | 14:19 |
| yfried | amaretskiy1: the new html look nice, the code is really complicated (for me) to review | 14:19 |
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| amaretskiy1 | first patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214695/ adds a method that re-formats task results data so they have some aggregated info | 14:20 |
| amaretskiy1 | next patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/146814/ is the most important | 14:20 |
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| amaretskiy1 | it uses method from first patch and also uses already merged new classes for report generation | 14:21 |
| amaretskiy1 | so now we can process tasks data in single cycle (streaming processing) | 14:21 |
| amaretskiy1 | and we have OOP-code for that and get rid of mess in plot.py | 14:21 |
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| amaretskiy1 | and now new charts can be easily added, based on base class Chart | 14:22 |
| amaretskiy1 | there ar ea lot of benefits | 14:22 |
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| amaretskiy1 | another 2 patches simply give improvemnents | 14:23 |
| amaretskiy1 | like LoadProfile chart | 14:23 |
| amaretskiy1 | and showing task UUID of task results file name in report HTML | 14:23 |
| amaretskiy1 | eom | 14:23 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy1: ^ thanks for more detailed update | 14:23 |
| amaretskiy1 | and showing task UUID `OR' task results file name in report HTML | 14:23 |
| boris-42 | does anybody have any questions? | 14:24 |
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| ikhudoshyn | looks like nobody has | 14:24 |
| boris-42 | okay let's move on | 14:25 |
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| boris-42 | #topic [ikhudoshyn] Object-oriented design of task configuration | 14:25 |
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| ikhudoshyn | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/211160/ here is the patch | 14:25 |
| ikhudoshyn | it represents ongoing work | 14:25 |
| ikhudoshyn | on moving to a new task format | 14:25 |
| ikhudoshyn | the patch is not ready -- lots of tests age red | 14:26 |
| ikhudoshyn | but there are two points | 14:26 |
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| ikhudoshyn | 1) I'd like you guys and especially you, boris-42, to look at it and tell me if it is ok functionality-wise | 14:27 |
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| ikhudoshyn | 2) There was a comment from P.Boldin.. | 14:27 |
| ikhudoshyn | as for extracting a common part of "scenario" scheme and using "allOf" json scheme mechanism to extend it properly | 14:28 |
| ikhudoshyn | unfortunately, "allOf" does not work with "additionalProperties": false | 14:28 |
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| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: yep I know that | 14:28 |
| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: I faced the same issue before with jsonschema | 14:29 |
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| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: so I belive that allOf is cosmetic change | 14:29 |
| ikhudoshyn | so two options arise: 1.1) update python dict explicitly -- does not look great for me | 14:29 |
| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: and addtitionalProperties is very important | 14:29 |
| ikhudoshyn | 1.2) leave it | 14:29 |
| ikhudoshyn | boris-42: I agree | 14:29 |
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| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: so what we need is working code with some small note that points bug in jsonshema (or explains it) | 14:30 |
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| ikhudoshyn | if there's no other objections, I'd like once again to ask you to review it as for functionality provided | 14:30 |
| ikhudoshyn | meanwhile I'll do tests | 14:30 |
| ikhudoshyn | eom | 14:30 |
| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: I was just looking at it there are some naming issues | 14:32 |
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| ikhudoshyn | I see. But we already have 'task' variable across the code and it references to DB model. So I'd like to separate those | 14:32 |
| ikhudoshyn | what do you think? | 14:33 |
| boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: it's better to start doing right* | 14:33 |
| ikhudoshyn | ok, will do | 14:33 |
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| boris-42 | okay | 14:34 |
| boris-42 | any questions guys? | 14:34 |
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| boris-42 | seems like no questions | 14:35 |
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| boris-42 | okay let's move to the next topic | 14:36 |
| boris-42 | #topic [boris-42] Rally Plugin reference | 14:36 |
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| boris-42 | Okay guys it's interesting stuff | 14:36 |
| boris-42 | I spend friday to get familiar | 14:37 |
| boris-42 | with docutils | 14:37 |
| boris-42 | and find the way to generate single page that contains all information aobut all plugins | 14:37 |
| boris-42 | yfried: ^ i remember you was looking for this | 14:37 |
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| yfried | boris-42: I wass | 14:39 |
| boris-42 | yfried: so here it will be https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218874/ | 14:40 |
| boris-42 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218874/ | 14:40 |
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| boris-42 | so any questions? | 14:41 |
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| boris-42 | amaretskiy1: ^ andreykurilin ^ | 14:41 |
| boris-42 | oanufriev: ^ | 14:41 |
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| amaretskiy1 | boris-42: no questions for now, will take a look at this patch | 14:42 |
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| boris-42 | #topic open discussion | 14:43 |
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| boris-42 | do we have soemthign to discuss? | 14:43 |
| yfried | boris-42: can this be applied to "rally info" command as well? | 14:43 |
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| boris-42 | yfried: so I am going to remove rally info command | 14:43 |
| amaretskiy1 | we have an issue reported regarding installing rally as murano app | 14:43 |
| boris-42 | yfried: there will be rally plugin find (command) | 14:43 |
| boris-42 | yfried: actually show/list | 14:43 |
| boris-42 | yfried: that will show all plugins in the same way | 14:44 |
| yfried | boris-42: and it will replace info and encompass all plugins? | 14:44 |
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| yfried | boris-42: greate | 14:44 |
| boris-42 | yfried: it already does | 14:44 |
| boris-42 | yfried: here it is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217005/3 | 14:44 |
| boris-42 | yfried: I need just to finish part of unittests | 14:44 |
| boris-42 | yfried: and it will be ready | 14:44 |
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| yfried | boris-42: I assume they use the same code for pulling out of docstrings... | 14:44 |
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| andreykurilin__ | boris-42, maybe we can remove rally info without deprecation? | 14:45 |
| boris-42 | yfried: yep | 14:45 |
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| boris-42 | yfried: and the fact that now all plugins are working in the same way | 14:45 |
| yfried | boris-42: great. I'll review | 14:46 |
| boris-42 | yfried: so we can have 1 mechanism for all of them | 14:46 |
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| boris-42 | e.g. info, validation, types, .... | 14:46 |
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| boris-42 | amaretskiy1: did you have a cahnce to take a look at bug | 14:47 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy1: with murano? | 14:48 |
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| amaretskiy1 | boris-42: only short look | 14:48 |
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| amaretskiy1 | boris-42: https://bugs.launchpad.net/murano-apps/+bug/1490586 | 14:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1490586 in murano-apps "unable to deploy Rally application" [Undecided,New] | 14:49 |
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| boris-42 | amaretskiy1: seems the problem is in install_rally.sh | 14:50 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy1: we need to do system wide installation with sudo | 14:50 |
| amaretskiy1 | boris-42: fatal: Not a git repository (or any of the parent directories): .git | 14:50 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy1: nope take a look later message | 14:50 |
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| amaretskiy1 | boris-42: yes, murano app should work from the box | 14:50 |
| boris-42 | install_rally.sh: ERROR: missing software prerequisites | 14:50 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy1: ^ | 14:50 |
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| boris-42 | amaretskiy1: this means that someobdy run install_rally as a not system wide | 14:51 |
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| boris-42 | amaretskiy1: so could you take a look at murano application installations? | 14:51 |
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| amaretskiy1 | boris-42: yes, I will do that | 14:51 |
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| amaretskiy1 | boris-42: I've assigned this bug on me | 14:52 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy1: https://github.com/openstack/murano-apps/blob/master/Rally/package/Resources/scripts/installRally.sh#L15-L19 | 14:52 |
| boris-42 | amaretskiy1: I found the issue you se there is no sudo here | 14:52 |
| boris-42 | okay so we can actually finish meeting | 14:52 |
| boris-42 | and go to rally chat | 14:52 |
| boris-42 | #endmeeting | 14:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 31 14:53:00 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2015/rally.2015-08-31-14.11.html | 14:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2015/rally.2015-08-31-14.11.txt | 14:53 |
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| asselin__ | anyone here for third party meeting? | 15:03 |
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| anteaya | hi asselin__ | 15:04 |
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| anteaya | I'll start it in a minute | 15:04 |
| asselin__ | Hi ok | 15:04 |
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| anteaya | I don't tend to do roll call before I start it as I will start it regardless | 15:04 |
| anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 15:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 31 15:05:04 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:05 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:05 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:05 |
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| anteaya | hello | 15:05 |
| anteaya | some meetings do roll call prior to starting a meeting to figure out if they have quorum to hold the meeting | 15:05 |
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| anteaya | quorum isn't needed for these meetings | 15:06 |
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| eantyshev | hello! | 15:06 |
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| anteaya | what shall we discuss today? | 15:06 |
| anteaya | hello eantyshev | 15:06 |
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| asselin__ | hi | 15:06 |
| eantyshev | I want to propose a solution for devstack-gate for those who run it on third-party distributions | 15:06 |
| anteaya | for instance the tc meeting needs quorum of its members before it can be started | 15:07 |
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| anteaya | okay | 15:07 |
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| anteaya | shall we discuss that first? | 15:07 |
| asselin__ | +1 | 15:07 |
| ameade | o/ | 15:07 |
| anteaya | great, eantyshev take it away | 15:07 |
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| eantyshev | There could be another variable, say, DEVSTACK_GATE_IS_FEDORA, which could be set to 1 is some rhel-based OS isn't supported upstream | 15:08 |
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| eantyshev | so that is_fedora() will check it when it encounters somthing it doesn't know | 15:09 |
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| eantyshev | that's it | 15:09 |
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| asselin__ | eantyshev, can you explain the problem first? | 15:09 |
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| wznoinsk1 | o/ | 15:10 |
| eantyshev | we run our CI on CloudLinux, which is unsupported by devstack-gate, and I hope to get rid of local forks at last | 15:10 |
| eantyshev | https://review.openstack.org/215029 | 15:10 |
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| anteaya | eantyshev and I talked at a prior third party meeting and I told him that it is highly unlikely CloudLinux will be supported upstream | 15:11 |
| eantyshev | Does anyone else in third-party uses anything apart from centos and fedora, BTW? | 15:11 |
| eantyshev | anteaya: Yes, so I decided we can customize is_fedora() to meet my needs, w/o specifying CloudLinux literally | 15:12 |
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| asselin__ | eantyshev, you do that by redefining the function? | 15:14 |
| anteaya | so you ask a good question, does anyone else have this use case in addition to yourself | 15:14 |
| wznoinsk1 | not here | 15:14 |
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| eantyshev | asselin__: no, but by modifying is_fedora() so that it will check for that variable if nothing else matches | 15:15 |
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| anteaya | wznoinsk: thank you | 15:15 |
| asselin__ | you do that with a fork or e.g. sed / inline update? | 15:16 |
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| clarkb | that function foes come from devstack, do you also need to update devstack? if so maybe we should see what they think? | 15:17 |
| clarkb | pretty sure it does anyways | 15:17 |
| eantyshev | clarkb: devstack supports CloudLinux when FORCE=yes specified, we made appropriate change there | 15:18 |
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| eantyshev | but here we cannot explicitly define CloudLinux, as this would mean it is supported in upstream | 15:19 |
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| anteaya | clarkb: and I'm going with no in terms of adding another infra supported os to the mix | 15:19 |
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| eantyshev | asselin__: do you mean how I do it at the moment in my setup? I use local fork of devstack-gate | 15:20 |
| asselin__ | eantyshev, yes. | 15:20 |
| asselin__ | eantyshev, out of curiosity, what happens when you don't have that set? | 15:20 |
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| janonymous | o/ | 15:21 |
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| eantyshev | asselin__: devstack-gate fails with OS undefined | 15:21 |
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| anteaya | okay so does anyone in addition to eantyshev have this issue? | 15:24 |
| anteaya | is this something that needs a broad solution or something that eantyshev could use some support to figure out for his setup | 15:25 |
| anteaya | eantyshev: I'm guessing you are male, yes? | 15:25 |
| wznoinsk | eantyshev: you may want to check on mailing list to get ppl opinion | 15:25 |
| asselin__ | no, but we have othere issues. We just use inline sed changes to avoid a fork | 15:25 |
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| anteaya | asselin__: have you an example you can share in a paste? | 15:26 |
| asselin__ | sed -i '/^[ ]*_ping_check/d' functions.sh | 15:26 |
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| asselin__ | sed -i '/^[ ]*_http_check/d' functions.sh | 15:26 |
| asselin__ | sed -i '/git_prune$/d' functions.sh | 15:26 |
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| asselin__ | we skip those lines b/c they cause performance issues and are not relevant to our evn | 15:27 |
| eantyshev | asselin__: for one of our projects we just apply corresponding changes at review.o.o, which is almost the same as inline patching | 15:27 |
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| eantyshev | anteaya: male, yeah | 15:28 |
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| asselin__ | eantyshev, yes, we do that too for other projects, but only for stuff we expect to have merged eventually. | 15:28 |
| anteaya | eantyshev: thanks | 15:28 |
| anteaya | so some options to customize your scripts include sed and local patches, yes? | 15:29 |
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| anteaya | any more here? | 15:30 |
| eantyshev | anteaya: asselin__: I think that inline patching is not very stable, though | 15:30 |
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| anteaya | customization of any kind is usually a weak point, agreed | 15:30 |
| asselin__ | eantyshev, yes, it has it's own downsides, but we haven't had any issues with it (so far). | 15:31 |
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| anteaya | do we have more to discuss here? | 15:31 |
| eantyshev | Should I make the same proposal in openstack-dev? | 15:31 |
| anteaya | you can if you wish | 15:32 |
| anteaya | but keep in mind you seem to be the only person with this issue | 15:32 |
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| anteaya | so the likelyhood upstream will accept the patch (depending on the patch) is uncertain | 15:32 |
| anteaya | but you are welcome to propose and have the discussion | 15:32 |
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| eantyshev | ok, then I'll try it | 15:33 |
| anteaya | no harm in that | 15:33 |
| anteaya | shall we move on? | 15:33 |
| asselin__ | eantyshev, and imho your case is a simple one to use sed. you could even replace CentOS with CloudLinux | 15:33 |
| anteaya | do we have anything else to discuss? | 15:33 |
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| asselin__ | eantyshev, but if you can get it merged, then all the better | 15:34 |
| asselin__ | so I think it's reasonable to try that first | 15:34 |
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| anteaya | does anyone else have anything they would like to discuss today? | 15:35 |
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| eantyshev | asselin__: then I should indeed try it first. Feel welcome to review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215029/ | 15:35 |
| asselin__ | eantyshev, done I like your approach | 15:35 |
| anteaya | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215029/ | 15:36 |
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| anteaya | is there more? | 15:37 |
| anteaya | assuming there isn't any more on this topic, does anyone else have anything else to discuss today? | 15:38 |
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| asselin__ | no | 15:39 |
| anteaya | okay thanks | 15:39 |
| anteaya | does anyone have any reason why I should not close this meeting? | 15:40 |
| anteaya | thank you all for your kind attendance and participation | 15:40 |
| eantyshev | nothing from me, thanks for this discussion | 15:40 |
| anteaya | I appreciate it | 15:40 |
| asselin__ | thanks anteaya | 15:40 |
| anteaya | eantyshev: thank you | 15:40 |
| anteaya | see you next week | 15:40 |
| anteaya | enjoy the rest of the day/evening/night | 15:41 |
| anteaya | #endmeeting | 15:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 31 15:41:05 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-08-31-15.05.html | 15:41 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-08-31-15.05.txt | 15:41 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-08-31-15.05.log.html | 15:41 |
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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:20 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 31 16:20:55 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:20 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:20 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:20 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:20 |
| rakhmerov | hi | 16:21 |
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| LimorStotland | hi all | 16:21 |
| melisha | Hi | 16:21 |
| NikolayM | hi! | 16:21 |
| xylan_kong | hi | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | hi guys | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | ok, let's start | 16:21 |
| gpaz | Hi | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | hi | 16:22 |
| m4dcoder | hi | 16:22 |
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| rakhmerov | hi Winson | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | agenda is simple today: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/MistralAgenda | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Review action items | 16:23 |
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| rakhmerov | 1. rakhmerov: start ML discussion about the best approach for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-execution-origin | 16:23 |
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| rakhmerov | it's not actually done again | 16:23 |
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| rakhmerov | sorry for that, I'll do it right after the meeting | 16:23 |
| xylan_kong | it's ok | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | 2. akhmerov, xylan_kong: figure out the destiny of Service API blueprints (server and client side) | 16:24 |
| akuznetsova | hi | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | akuznetsova: hi! | 16:24 |
| xylan_kong | done, i have found it, finally | 16:24 |
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| rakhmerov | yep, done | 16:24 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | status, quickly.. | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) | 16:25 |
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| gpaz | I done with bug today (fix + test) https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/1484138 | 16:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1484138 in Mistral "Expiration Policy for executions failed to delete executions " [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Guy Paz (guy-paz) | 16:25 |
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| LimorStotland | working on fixing mistral resource type | 16:25 |
| NikolayM | my status: still working on documentation, config guide, quickstart and architecture are done, next - terminology | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | my status: 1) made it possible to create cycles in direct workflow, the only limitation is that we can't use joins in cycles yet 2) refactored API layer with json type for WSME fields | 16:26 |
| m4dcoder | Still working on fixing the postgresql unit tests. Have 1 patch in but still have other issues. Slow progress as this is not my priority. | 16:26 |
| melisha | I'll update for Liat - she pushed https://review.openstack.org/218839 today | 16:26 |
| xylan_kong | my status: fixed some bugs, discuss how to implement action_execution deletion | 16:26 |
| melisha | Mistral-dashboard: Tasks list - addition of Output column and screen | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | gpaz: great, I saw your email but didn't have time actually to reply | 16:27 |
| xylan_kong | NikolayM: good job about the doc work! | 16:27 |
| gpaz | email not relevant I found how to do that, tahnks :) | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | LimorStotland: yep, saw your patch. It looks ok to me but someone from Heat voted -1 | 16:27 |
| NikolayM | xylan_kong, thanks :) | 16:27 |
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| rakhmerov | gpaz: great, sorry again | 16:27 |
| gpaz | rakhmerov, np | 16:27 |
| LimorStotland | thanks NikolayM i am on it :-) | 16:28 |
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| rakhmerov | melisha: ok, good | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | NikolayM: really great work on doc patches! | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | keep up ) | 16:28 |
| NikolayM | thanks | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | m4dcoder: I wish I could participate in your activities too but don't know how to find time for it | 16:29 |
| gpaz | all, do we need some help with docs for expiration policy ? | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | m4dcoder: do you see some serious issues with posgres unit tests? | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | I might have forgotten some details of it | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | gpaz: definitely | 16:30 |
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| gpaz | rakhmerov, lets take it offline, I think I can take that | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | gpaz: if you could send an initial text we could then polish it and make a good doc out of it | 16:31 |
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| rakhmerov | sure | 16:31 |
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| gpaz | rakhmerov, ok I will, I need some reference how it should look like | 16:31 |
| m4dcoder | rakhmerov: there are some weird timing problems in the unit tests running it on different machines. don't know why. | 16:31 |
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| rakhmerov | hm... interesting | 16:32 |
| m4dcoder | rakhmerov: but i have't gotten to the parallel thread issue yet. still trying to get the unit tests to run to completion. | 16:32 |
| NikolayM | gpaz, initial doc is ready (see documentation patch for main features) | 16:32 |
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| gpaz | ok, thanks | 16:32 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, m4dcoder: we have a syncup with you this week, let's discuss details then. I may be able to help with that (I hope) | 16:33 |
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| m4dcoder | rakhmerov: ok | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Liberty-3 progress | 16:33 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, just wanna take a look at https://launchpad.net/mistral/+milestone/liberty-3 once more | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | so | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | most of what's not done yet is documentation stuff | 16:35 |
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| rakhmerov | NikolayM: please move to rc1 what you think you won't squeeze into this week, till Friday | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | but most of it I think will be done | 16:35 |
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| xylan_kong | rakhmerov: we don't track client release? | 16:36 |
| rakhmerov | btw, folks, just letting you know: we can do any bugfixing, documentation and UI work in RC releases too | 16:36 |
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| rakhmerov | xylan_kong: what do you mean? | 16:36 |
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| NikolayM | rakhemrov, sure | 16:36 |
| xylan_kong | python-mistralclient | 16:36 |
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| rakhmerov | yes, but what do you mean by tracking releases? | 16:36 |
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| melisha | rakhmerov: Good to know about UI work in RC! | 16:37 |
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| xylan_kong | just want to know the status of python-mistralclient | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | melisha: yes, the only limitation is that we shouldn't be working on any new feature in the service itself | 16:37 |
| xylan_kong | just as https://launchpad.net/mistral/+milestone/liberty-3 | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | xylan_kong: well, for now it's just one BP about execution origin | 16:38 |
| melisha | rakhmerov: Thanks. | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | so, as a matter of fact, we are tracking it | 16:38 |
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| xylan_kong | ok | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | other than that we might have some bugs in the client | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | we'll keep fixing them as we go on | 16:39 |
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| rakhmerov | melisha: I also wanted to ask Gal about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-dashboard-cron-trigger-screen | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | but looks like he is not here now | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | do you happen to know his status on that? | 16:40 |
| melisha | rakhmerov: Gal is still working on executions screen. He did not start with cron-trigger yet | 16:40 |
| rakhmerov | as far as https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/tasks-screen-improvments, I think we'll move it to RC1 | 16:40 |
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| rakhmerov | melisha: so is his progress on executions screen? | 16:41 |
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| rakhmerov | ..how is his... | 16:41 |
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| melisha | rakhmerov: He is progressing. He is now doing the execution update | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | I'll talk to him tomorrow | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | just want to estimate if we'll be able to knock these two things down this week | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | ok, thanks | 16:42 |
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| melisha | rakhmerov: OK. Can we start with cron-trigger UI in RC? | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | yes, we can | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | it's no problem ) | 16:42 |
| melisha | rakhmerov: Great! Thanks | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | the reason I'm asking is that I just would like to keep a good pace of development | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 16:43 |
| melisha | :-) | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Open Discussion | 16:43 |
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| rakhmerov | xylan_kong, m4dcoder, NikolayM: let's discuss https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216509/ now | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | we have Winson's -2 for it | 16:44 |
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| xylan_kong | yeah, we have discussed action_exeuction deletion in last meeting, but Winson has different opinions after I submmited my patch. | 16:44 |
| xylan_kong | i'd like we make consensus on that again, so I can continue my work | 16:45 |
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| rakhmerov | let's do it | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | right now | 16:45 |
| NikolayM | IMO, we should let users to delete their single action executions | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | NikolayM: sounds reasonable to me | 16:45 |
| xylan_kong | agreed | 16:45 |
| NikolayM | at least those which don't connected with task executions | 16:45 |
| rakhmerov | m4dcoder: what do you think about this solution? | 16:45 |
| gpaz | rakhmerov, from some reason I m not seeing the bug I m working on here : https://launchpad.net/mistral/+milestone/liberty-3 | 16:45 |
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| rakhmerov | if we limit action execution deletion to the case of single action executions (w/o parent task) | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | gpaz: which one? | 16:46 |
| gpaz | https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/1484138 | 16:46 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1484138 in Mistral "Expiration Policy for executions failed to delete executions " [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Guy Paz (guy-paz) | 16:46 |
| m4dcoder | So I can agree with that. The action executions cannot be tied to any task or WF executions. The action executions has to be in a completed state | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | gpaz: done | 16:47 |
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| rakhmerov | m4dcoder: yes | 16:47 |
| gpaz | rakhmerov, thanks | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | so did we all agree on that? | 16:47 |
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| m4dcoder | I like an option where admin has the ability to deny deletion. It's really a security problem. To let someone run a malicious action against your system and have the ability to delete record of it. | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | xylan_kong: would that work and let us do clean up reasonably? | 16:47 |
| m4dcoder | i mean to run the action thru your system. | 16:48 |
| xylan_kong | m4dcoder: user shoud have ability to delete his own resource, IMO | 16:48 |
| m4dcoder | Except it's not a resource. | 16:48 |
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| rakhmerov | m4dcoder: see your point, do we need a new config option then or something? What's the solution you see here? | 16:48 |
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| m4dcoder | It's something that happened at a point in time. | 16:48 |
| rakhmerov | ok, m4dcoder, can you describe concisely the best solution you see here? | 16:49 |
| m4dcoder | If we must implement this now, then maybe an config option in the config file. | 16:49 |
| rakhmerov | NikolayM, xylan_kong: what do you think? | 16:50 |
| xylan_kong | i'm afraid i don't agree that | 16:50 |
| m4dcoder | Default of the config option is to not allow deletion. So it's a conscious effort the admin needs to do to allow for this operation. | 16:50 |
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| xylan_kong | adding a new config item is a little redundant | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | xylan_kong: why? | 16:50 |
| xylan_kong | just a use case, it the item is set to False, then as a user, i can delete my 'ad-hoc' action_execution? | 16:51 |
| xylan_kong | s/can/can't | 16:51 |
| xylan_kong | I have faced many cases like this from our customers | 16:52 |
| rakhmerov | ok, let me try to summarize what you can't agree on | 16:52 |
| rakhmerov | so | 16:52 |
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| rakhmerov | m4dcoder says that user should not be able to delete even his/her own action executions, even if there ad-hoc (single) | 16:53 |
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| rakhmerov | m4dcoder: is that right? | 16:53 |
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| rakhmerov | m4dcoder: can you provide your arguments again? | 16:53 |
| rakhmerov | why? | 16:53 |
| m4dcoder | yes. IMHO, executions are something that happened in time. The system should have records of that executions. | 16:54 |
| rakhmerov | ok, I see | 16:55 |
| m4dcoder | If delete operation is allowed, I think it's something that the user and the admins should be aware of and consciously set. | 16:55 |
| rakhmerov | then how could we solve the problem we have? | 16:55 |
| rakhmerov | ok, config option, right? | 16:55 |
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| rakhmerov | or some sort of superuser access | 16:55 |
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| m4dcoder | config option that admin set. | 16:56 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 16:56 |
| rakhmerov | xylan_kong: your point now | 16:56 |
| m4dcoder | or RBAC policies like you guys mentioned | 16:56 |
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| rakhmerov | xylan_kong: where exactly do you disagree? | 16:56 |
| xylan_kong | I just want to make sure users have full access to their own resources. | 16:56 |
| rakhmerov | m4dcoder: yes, I just think it won't happen soon to be honest | 16:56 |
| xylan_kong | i'm ok that we can't delete action_exeucitons that relates to task or workflow | 16:57 |
| rakhmerov | xylan_kong: I am just thinking that maybe m4dcoder is right that it's not a user resource. User itself just asks to something and doesn't know exactly what a system is going to create under the hood | 16:57 |
| xylan_kong | but for ad-hoc action_executions, I can't image the reason why we shoudl keep it | 16:57 |
| rakhmerov | what kind of objects | 16:57 |
| rakhmerov | ok, guys | 16:58 |
| rakhmerov | we have only 2 mins and I want we to find a compromise right now | 16:58 |
| rakhmerov | here's my suggestion: for now we create a config option for enabling action execution deletion | 16:58 |
| rakhmerov | if these are single objects | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | moving forward it will be managed by RBAC | 16:59 |
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| rakhmerov | xylan_kong: is it ok with you? | 16:59 |
| xylan_kong | all right, what i need is a solution that most of people agreed on, and we just do it. | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | I just don't see how else we can agree | 16:59 |
| rakhmerov | m4dcoder, NikolayM? | 17:00 |
| rakhmerov | deal? | 17:00 |
| m4dcoder | i'm ok with the config option. i don't see any other way forward. | 17:00 |
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| rakhmerov | ok | 17:00 |
| rakhmerov | we have to end the meeting | 17:00 |
| NikolayM | I'm ok with this | 17:00 |
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| rakhmerov | thank you all guys for joining | 17:00 |
| rakhmerov | appreciate it | 17:00 |
| NikolayM | bye! | 17:00 |
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| rakhmerov | bye-bye! | 17:00 |
| m4dcoder | thanks. | 17:00 |
| xylan_kong | ok, thanks all | 17:00 |
| LimorStotland | bye | 17:00 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 31 17:00:58 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-08-31-16.20.html | 17:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-08-31-16.20.txt | 17:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-08-31-16.20.log.html | 17:01 |
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| matjazp | #startmeeting training-guides | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 31 17:01:12 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is matjazp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' | 17:01 |
| timfreund | hello | 17:01 |
| matjazp | agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/training-guides | 17:01 |
| matjazp | roll call | 17:01 |
| sayali | hello | 17:01 |
| rluethi | hi | 17:01 |
| cloudtrainme | o/ | 17:01 |
| matjazp | hi all | 17:01 |
| cloudtrainme | hi | 17:01 |
| matjazp | nice, bigger attendance :) | 17:02 |
| matjazp | ok lets start with the agenda | 17:02 |
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| matjazp | #topic status update | 17:02 |
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| matjazp | I was waiting for the official announcement from Lana on Docs weekly email, but it was not made this week | 17:03 |
| matjazp | so new stuff | 17:03 |
| matjazp | I took over as a project lead | 17:03 |
| matjazp | I guess the official announcement will be in mail in the next Docs weekly ML | 17:04 |
| sayali | congrats matjazp :) | 17:04 |
| cloudtrainme | matjazp: congrats | 17:04 |
| matjazp | thnx | 17:04 |
| rluethi | well deserved | 17:04 |
| matjazp | we have some things to decide about scope, but thats onother topic | 17:05 |
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| janonymous | o/ | 17:05 |
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| matjazp | we're also now under Docs project, as a speciality team | 17:06 |
| matjazp | I feel this is normally something that all members of the team should participate in. But given the current status of the project and a smaller scope, I think for the moment, this is the only realistic option. | 17:06 |
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| matjazp | we can pursue a "full" project status later, if we decide so | 17:06 |
| * rluethi nods | 17:06 | |
| matjazp | move on? | 17:07 |
| matjazp | #topic Patches, bugs | 17:07 |
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| matjazp | I wrote 7 new bugs for upstream training, some of them as low-hanging-fruit, to attract new contributors | 17:08 |
| matjazp | but 4 are already taken, so the plan is working ;) | 17:08 |
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| timfreund | :-) That will be very helpful: the students are familar with the material by the end of the class, so it'll be an easy way for them to jump in. | 17:09 |
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| matjazp | timfreund: yes, but looks like they will be already submitted by the Tokyo... | 17:10 |
| timfreund | We have feedback from past classes that I can turn into bugs, too. There's always room to improve. | 17:10 |
| matjazp | I only looked at first few chapters, there's more to submit | 17:11 |
| matjazp | timfreund: yes, please do | 17:11 |
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| matjazp | timfreund: but if you wan't to "reserve" these for the students, maybe you can also assign them right after you submit | 17:11 |
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| janonymous | is there a link for reference? | 17:12 |
| matjazp | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-training-guides/ | 17:12 |
| timfreund | sure, I can assign them to myself to reserve them, and then change the assignment to students that register and have no bug or area of interest in mind. | 17:12 |
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| matjazp | I also just submitted a new index page for training guides, but besides that queue is empty | 17:13 |
| janonymous | thanks, just wanna go through. Is it bugs only? | 17:13 |
| matjazp | timfreund: yes, that is the option. We need to have few simple fixes reserved for them | 17:13 |
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| matjazp | janonymous: reviews (patches) are in Gerrit, as usual | 17:14 |
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| matjazp | janonymous: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/training-guides,n,z | 17:15 |
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| matjazp | ok. since we're discussing Upstream... | 17:16 |
| matjazp | #topic Upstream updates for Mitaka | 17:16 |
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| matjazp | As I said, I went through first few chapters and submitted update bugs | 17:16 |
| matjazp | we need to do the same for other chapters | 17:17 |
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| timfreund | I will send a note to the people who have volunteered as classroom assistants and mentors to see if they can spare some time to do the same. | 17:18 |
| janonymous | Thanks i got the docs , i wanna go through it once :) | 17:18 |
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| matjazp | timfreund: excelent.. material is pretty stable, right? | 17:18 |
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| matjazp | besides updates for Mitaka | 17:19 |
| timfreund | yes | 17:19 |
| matjazp | #action timfreund sends a note to the volunteers tor upstream training | 17:19 |
| matjazp | which brings us to the next item on agenda | 17:20 |
| matjazp | #topic Upstream material publishing | 17:20 |
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| matjazp | are we ready to publish the material on the official pages? | 17:20 |
| matjazp | I believe so | 17:20 |
| matjazp | now it's under draft | 17:21 |
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| matjazp | #link http://docs.openstack.org/draft/upstream-training | 17:21 |
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| matjazp | I propose we adopt continuous updates and we publish this in docs index | 17:22 |
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| timfreund | No objections if we can keep continuous updates visible. | 17:22 |
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| cloudtrainme | nice...first time I've seen this content. | 17:22 |
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| matjazp | it makes no sense to adopt branches | 17:23 |
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| timfreund | right: only having the most recent material published should help avoid confusion among potential new contributors. | 17:24 |
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| matjazp | timfreund: exactly | 17:24 |
| matjazp | timfreund: and it also makes no sense to teach old, deprecated practices that are no longer valid | 17:24 |
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| matjazp | so we are in agreement here, right? | 17:25 |
| cloudtrainme | Does that mean we wouldn't provide training on older releases? | 17:25 |
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| timfreund | cloudtrainme: I think that's just for the upstream training material | 17:26 |
| matjazp | this is just for Upstream | 17:26 |
| cloudtrainme | ah...got it | 17:26 |
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| matjazp | #info we adopt continuos publishing model for Upstream training | 17:26 |
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| matjazp | #info we start the activity for publishing the Upstream training slides in the official Docs index | 17:27 |
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| matjazp | can we move on? | 17:27 |
| cloudtrainme | yes | 17:28 |
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| matjazp | ok, I will submit some bugs for this | 17:28 |
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| matjazp | #action matjazp looks into what needs to be done for official publishing of upstream training material | 17:29 |
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| matjazp | #topic Project's scope and priorities | 17:29 |
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| matjazp | ok, as Labs are no longer a part of this project, we need to update project's scope | 17:29 |
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| matjazp | as I see it, maybe one of the problems was that we were spread to thin in the past | 17:30 |
| matjazp | we tried to do too much | 17:30 |
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| matjazp | so maybe we should focus on a fewer items first, and then when community expands, add new stuff | 17:31 |
| cloudtrainme | I think that makes sense. | 17:31 |
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| matjazp | so what I propose is to focus on key items first: | 17:31 |
| matjazp | 1. Upstream training | 17:31 |
| matjazp | 2. Training guides for begginers ("associate training") | 17:32 |
| matjazp | what else? | 17:32 |
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| matjazp | sayali: rluethi : what do you think? | 17:33 |
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| sayali | matjazp: sounds good | 17:35 |
| matjazp | do we have enough ppl to add something? | 17:35 |
| rluethi | sounds like a good start, yes | 17:35 |
| rluethi | like what? | 17:35 |
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| matjazp | some of the other areas we had? | 17:35 |
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| matjazp | like multimedia or online quizzes | 17:36 |
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| rluethi | oh, IC | 17:36 |
| matjazp | but I'm afraid that we will loose focus | 17:36 |
| rluethi | I'd say postpone these. | 17:36 |
| sayali | matjazp: i think we should focus on kthe guides content to begin with | 17:36 |
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| rluethi | matjazp: I suppose that 2. Training guides is really slides, not a manual, right? | 17:37 |
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| matjazp | ok, so we agree on 1. and 2. to be proiorities, and we add to it later | 17:37 |
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| matjazp | rluethi: yes, slides | 17:37 |
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| matjazp | like upstream training | 17:38 |
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| matjazp | WE can add one topic at the time | 17:39 |
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| matjazp | Networking is already in the repo | 17:39 |
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| matjazp | we add similar chapters for other "core" projects | 17:39 |
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| matjazp | with focus on begginers, user groups, etc. | 17:40 |
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| matjazp | these slides should also be as "generic" as possible (to reduce work with releases) | 17:41 |
| matjazp | #info Project focus is on 1. Upstream training and 2. Training slides. We add other stuff later | 17:42 |
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| matjazp | #action matjazp sends a new focus to the Docs ML | 17:43 |
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| matjazp | anything else here? | 17:44 |
| matjazp | ok moving on | 17:45 |
| matjazp | #topic Training slides | 17:45 |
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| matjazp | I submitted a nicer index page for this content in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218943/ | 17:46 |
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| matjazp | but it's still in the gate, so you can't look at it online | 17:47 |
| matjazp | it is similar like upstream's | 17:47 |
| matjazp | anyone wants to start a new chapter? | 17:47 |
| matjazp | a few slides about nova? | 17:48 |
| matjazp | or any other topic | 17:48 |
| rluethi | Alas time is failing me. | 17:48 |
| matjazp | would it be beneficial if we wrote bugs for it? | 17:49 |
| sayali | matjazp: I think its a good idea to create bugs or something similar so people interested can take up the work | 17:49 |
| cloudtrainme | Yes. I think I can help out and having a bug would be helpful. | 17:49 |
| matjazp | like a bug for a chapter | 17:49 |
| sayali | matjazp: yes you should | 17:49 |
| matjazp | and we don't need complete coverage of the topic, just something to start with | 17:50 |
| matjazp | #action matjazp submits a bug for each proposed chapter/topic | 17:50 |
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| matjazp | cloudtrainme: do you already have a topic you would like to tackle wiht? | 17:51 |
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| cloudtrainme | matjazp: I'm pretty open, but something simple would be good for my first time out. | 17:52 |
| matjazp | cloudtrainme: yes, focus is on simple stuff. we need to start somewhere | 17:52 |
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| cloudtrainme | matjazp: I can likely tackle some high level nova slides or swift slides. | 17:53 |
| matjazp | cloudtrainme: excellent! | 17:53 |
| matjazp | #action cloudtrainme looks into nova | 17:54 |
| matjazp | cloudtrainme: would you like to submit a bug for it? | 17:54 |
| cloudtrainme | matjazp: Indeed. I can submit the bug. | 17:55 |
| matjazp | just some generic text, like a description of Nova | 17:55 |
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| matjazp | #action cloudtrainme submits a bug for Nova's slides | 17:55 |
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| * matjazp looks at the ball as it starts rolling :) | 17:56 | |
| matjazp | #topic any other business | 17:56 |
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| matjazp | Tim, can we do anything else for Upstream? | 17:56 |
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| timfreund | I think you've set us up for success so far. I'll circle back once I reach out to the mentors and assistants if anything comes up. | 17:58 |
| timfreund | thank you! | 17:58 |
| matjazp | anyone else? | 17:58 |
| matjazp | huh.. time's almost up | 17:59 |
| matjazp | bye all, thnx for coming! | 17:59 |
| cloudtrainme | bye | 17:59 |
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| sayali | bye! | 18:00 |
| matjazp | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 31 18:00:13 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-08-31-17.01.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-08-31-17.01.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-08-31-17.01.log.html | 18:00 |
| sarob | #startmeeting akanda | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 31 18:00:43 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sarob. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: akanda)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'akanda' | 18:00 |
| davidlenwell | o/ | 18:00 |
| adam_g | o/ | 18:00 |
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| sarob | hello hello | 18:01 |
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| davidlenwell | jello | 18:01 |
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| sarob | agenda can be found here | 18:01 |
| sarob | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/akanda | 18:01 |
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| sarob | lets start | 18:02 |
| sarob | #topic outstanding actions | 18:02 |
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| markmcclain | o/ | 18:02 |
| sarob | #info semantic versioning | 18:03 |
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| sarob | released https://bugs.launchpad.net/akanda/+bug/1470673 | 18:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1470673 in akanda "pbr version numbering doesn't match semantic versioning" [Critical,Fix released] - Assigned to Sean Roberts (sarob) | 18:04 |
| sarob | and | 18:04 |
| sarob | #info stable/juno versioning | 18:04 |
| sarob | in progress https://bugs.launchpad.net/akanda/+bug/1481877 | 18:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1481877 in akanda "stable/juno branches are versioned incorrectly" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Sean Roberts (sarob) | 18:04 |
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| sarob | almost done, but dependent on | 18:05 |
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| sarob | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209616 | 18:05 |
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| sarob | or duplicate | 18:05 |
| sarob | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218840 | 18:05 |
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| adam_g | i just apporved the duplicate, ill ditch mine | 18:06 |
| sarob | adam_g: roger | 18:06 |
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| sarob | thats all the outstanding actions | 18:06 |
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| sarob | did i miss anything? | 18:07 |
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| sarob | okay, moving on | 18:08 |
| sarob | #topic critical bugs | 18:08 |
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| sarob | we covered the current ones | 18:09 |
| sarob | with the outstanding actions | 18:09 |
| sarob | so moving on | 18:09 |
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| sarob | #topic progress on liberty rc1 bp | 18:09 |
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| sarob | #info appliance provisioning driver | 18:10 |
| sarob | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda/+spec/appliance-provisioning-driver | 18:10 |
| sarob | whats the latest davidlenwell? | 18:10 |
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| davidlenwell | I have the appliance provisioning driver code very close to the review state.. It technically is passing functional tests. Right now I am in the process of cleaning up the inline documentation and getting the unit tests to pass. | 18:11 |
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| davidlenwell | Hoping that by the end of today.. or early wednesday (taking tomorrow off) will have all the driver related patches ready for review. | 18:11 |
| adam_g | davidlenwell, which functional tests are you referencing/ | 18:11 |
| adam_g | do we need to block review on unit tests and docstrings? | 18:11 |
| davidlenwell | well the way I am looking at it .. maybe | 18:12 |
| davidlenwell | I could still make a change in the driver .. based on how it needs to be tested .. will know more later today | 18:12 |
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| davidlenwell | adam_g: the gate functional test | 18:13 |
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| davidlenwell | Also I've found that having good inline docs shortens the review cycles because you don't have to guess or ask as many questions about why I decided to lay it out the way that I did.. so yeah I think inline code docs are important | 18:14 |
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| sarob | we are all eager to dig in | 18:15 |
| davidlenwell | I know.. targeting the end of my day today to have everything up and ready | 18:15 |
| sarob | davidlenwell: sounds good | 18:16 |
| adam_g | cool | 18:16 |
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| markmcclain | cool | 18:17 |
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| sarob | #info lbaasV2 | 18:17 |
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| sarob | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda/+spec/lbaas-v2-support | 18:18 |
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| davidlenwell | this is still blocked on the previous topic.. | 18:18 |
| davidlenwell | slated to begin right after this work lands | 18:18 |
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| sarob | got it | 18:18 |
| sarob | the patch | 18:18 |
| sarob | there is no outstanding patch for that right? | 18:19 |
| sarob | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181545/ | 18:19 |
| sarob | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/195814/ | 18:19 |
| sarob | will likely be | 18:20 |
| sarob | abandoned? | 18:20 |
| adam_g | yea | 18:20 |
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| sarob | think you can update the driver spec | 18:21 |
| sarob | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209232/ | 18:21 |
| sarob | this week for merge as well? | 18:21 |
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| davidlenwell | yes | 18:23 |
| davidlenwell | it will be | 18:23 |
| sarob | cool | 18:23 |
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| * sarob it will so | 18:23 | |
| * sarob it will be so | 18:23 | |
| sarob | shoot | 18:23 |
| sarob | #topic rug scaling | 18:24 |
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| sarob | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda/+spec/rug-scaling | 18:24 |
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| sarob | adam_g: all in review, right | 18:25 |
| adam_g | yup | 18:25 |
| sarob | markmcclain: you were working on testing multinode failure scenarios | 18:26 |
| sarob | markmcclain: with the code | 18:26 |
| sarob | markmcclain: any luck so far | 18:26 |
| markmcclain | most of that was manual.. not automated testing | 18:26 |
| sarob | markmcclain: right | 18:27 |
| sarob | markmcclain: crawl before we run | 18:27 |
| markmcclain | correct | 18:27 |
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| sarob | markmcclain: so any luck putting the code through paces? | 18:28 |
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| markmcclain | so good so far | 18:30 |
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| markmcclain | did we lose sarob? | 18:32 |
| sarob | markmcclain: nope | 18:32 |
| sarob | still here | 18:32 |
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| sarob | #topic nodepool support | 18:33 |
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| sarob | oops | 18:33 |
| sarob | #topic progress on liberty rc1 bp | 18:34 |
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| sarob | #info nodepool support | 18:34 |
| sarob | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda/+spec/nodepool-support | 18:34 |
| sarob | adam_g: any update | 18:34 |
| adam_g | sarob, i hope to get started with some patches for that today | 18:34 |
| adam_g | just to get it moving a bit | 18:35 |
| sarob | adam_g: cool | 18:35 |
| sarob | look forward | 18:35 |
| sarob | anything else on this? | 18:35 |
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| sarob | adam_g: anything else on this? | 18:36 |
| adam_g | nope, not atm | 18:36 |
| sarob | #info doc updates | 18:36 |
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| sarob | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/akanda/+spec/liberty-doc-updates | 18:37 |
| sarob | this is moving slowly | 18:37 |
| sarob | i am currently going through the existing documentation | 18:37 |
| sarob | and separating the general what is akanda sections and the rest | 18:38 |
| sarob | i should have patch up today | 18:38 |
| sarob | any other comments on rc1 bp? | 18:38 |
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| sarob | okay moving on | 18:39 |
| sarob | #topic any other business | 18:39 |
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| sarob | i have two things | 18:39 |
| sarob | scheduling our first mitaka dev summit prep session | 18:41 |
| sarob | and scheduling a hack session for september in SFO area | 18:42 |
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| sarob | around 17 september for the mitaka prep sound good? | 18:43 |
| sarob | or exactly | 18:43 |
| adam_g | huh? | 18:44 |
| markmcclain | I've got to be atlanta that day | 18:44 |
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| sarob | next week instead then | 18:45 |
| sarob | we can debate further on the akanda channel narrow the date time | 18:45 |
| adam_g | i dont understand, you're suggestion we meet in SF for something next week? | 18:46 |
| sarob | no sorry | 18:46 |
| adam_g | or is this an online meeting | 18:46 |
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| sarob | i was putting both meetings out there | 18:46 |
| sarob | first one is mitaka design summit prep next week | 18:46 |
| sarob | online | 18:46 |
| sarob | on etherpad that we will use for the summit | 18:47 |
| adam_g | oh, ok | 18:47 |
| sarob | second is f2f in SFO area the week of 20th, like 21-22 maybe if schedules work out | 18:48 |
| sarob | markmcclain: has something on the 22 that he may be able to move | 18:48 |
| adam_g | i likely wont be able to make it, but dont block on me | 18:48 |
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| sarob | adam_g: different date work better for you or travel itself before the summit | 18:49 |
| adam_g | sarob, its the travel thing | 18:50 |
| sarob | adam_g: roger | 18:50 |
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| sarob | i think we can remote adam_g in for 21-22 | 18:53 |
| adam_g | k | 18:53 |
| sarob | so lets plan on 9th at 11am PDT for mitaka summit planning to start off | 18:54 |
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| sarob | and 21-22 for f2f plus adam_g remote | 18:54 |
| sarob | sound good y'all? | 18:54 |
| adam_g | we can plan this later | 18:55 |
| adam_g | 5 min left | 18:55 |
| sarob | sure, lets continue the discussing in channel | 18:55 |
| adam_g | (mark is not here anymore so no sense getting agreement w/o him) | 18:55 |
| sarob | adam_g: right, i have had a prelim discussion with him, but yeah, lets verify | 18:55 |
| sarob | #action sarob set date/time for mitaka summit plan session and september f2f | 18:56 |
| sarob | anything else? | 18:57 |
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| sarob | beuller? | 18:58 |
| sarob | beuller? | 18:58 |
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| adam_g | nope | 18:59 |
| sarob | okay, i guess thats it | 18:59 |
| sarob | cheers | 18:59 |
| sarob | #endmeeting | 18:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 31 18:59:25 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/akanda/2015/akanda.2015-08-31-18.00.html | 18:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/akanda/2015/akanda.2015-08-31-18.00.txt | 18:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/akanda/2015/akanda.2015-08-31-18.00.log.html | 18:59 |
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| Shamail | #startmeeting product_working_group | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 31 20:01:30 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Shamail. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'product_working_group' | 20:01 |
| Shamail | Hi everyone, roll call plz | 20:01 |
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| kencjohn_ | o/ Here | 20:01 |
| cloudrancher | Jay is on the bridge | 20:01 |
| Piet | Here! | 20:01 |
| Rockyg | o/ | 20:01 |
| philipw | Here! | 20:01 |
| DericHorn-HP | Here! | 20:02 |
| MeganR | Here! | 20:02 |
| hughhalf | o/ Hola | 20:02 |
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| Shamail | Great! | 20:02 |
| Shamail | Today | 20:02 |
| Shamail | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/product-team#August_31.2C_2015_Team_Meeting | 20:02 |
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| Shamail | User stories in the repo currently | 20:03 |
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| Shamail | #link https://github.com/openstack/openstack-user-stories/tree/master/user-stories/draft | 20:03 |
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| Shamail | #action shamail will submit the other two user stories (lifecycle and quota/capacity) tonight (as they are written) to prepare for the cross project meeting tomorrow | 20:07 |
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| Shamail | #topic user story team formation | 20:11 |
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| Shamail | Onboarding user story: Jay and Deric are sharing the user story internally and trying to recruit additional help. | 20:12 |
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| Shamail | Onboarding team will try to have an initial meeting this Friday | 20:12 |
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| Shamail | Upgrades user story: team will be reviewing the existing work | 20:16 |
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| cloudrancher | sorry guys - lost my VOIP connection | 20:23 |
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| Shamail | NP | 20:24 |
| Shamail | #topic other user stories: below the line | 20:25 |
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| Piet | Gotta go! | 20:28 |
| Piet | I went ahead and posted a draft version of cloud personas to invision in addition to the work that was done previous by the persona group. | 20:29 |
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| Piet | Feel free to comment - https://invis.io/VM41Q203B | 20:29 |
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| Shamail | #action team to get user stories with content already defined (in google drive) in the next two weeks (Shamail, Kenny, Carol) | 20:31 |
| Shamail | #action build user stories for new topics and entered into repo by Tokyo | 20:32 |
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| Shamail | #topic Open Forum | 20:33 |
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| Shamail | #action need to build content on "expectations" for being active in the WG | 20:36 |
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| Shamail | #action Deric will send updated deck and Shamail will re-export via link | 20:41 |
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| cloudrancher | Create sub pages for each user story team on the wiki | 20:42 |
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| Shamail | #action Shamail will create sub-pages on wiki for the four areas (user story responsibilities, CPL responsibilities, product WG membership expectations, and recruiting new organizations) | 20:42 |
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| cloudrancher | Shamail +2 for taking most of the Action | 20:43 |
| Shamail | lol | 20:43 |
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| cloudrancher | bye | 20:43 |
| Shamail | bye! | 20:44 |
| Shamail | #endmeeting | 20:44 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 31 20:44:05 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:44 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2015/product_working_group.2015-08-31-20.01.html | 20:44 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2015/product_working_group.2015-08-31-20.01.txt | 20:44 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/product_working_group/2015/product_working_group.2015-08-31-20.01.log.html | 20:44 |
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| kevinbenton | hi! \o/ | 20:59 |
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| salv-orlando | aloha | 20:59 |
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| blogan | hello | 21:00 |
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| ihrachys | o/ | 21:00 |
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| fitoduarte | hello | 21:00 |
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| kevinbenton | armax and carl_baldwin are running this show IIRC because mestery is on PTO | 21:01 |
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| emagana | hello all! | 21:01 |
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| emagana | I want PTO too! | 21:01 |
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| xgerman | o/ | 21:01 |
| regXboi | somebody want to pull the trigger and start this? | 21:01 |
| yamamoto2 | hi | 21:01 |
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| xgerman | haleyb? | 21:01 |
| Sukhdev | hello everybody | 21:01 |
| xgerman | your chance to be chair | 21:01 |
| hichihara | hi | 21:01 |
| emagana | let's claim for no quorum and hit a bar! | 21:02 |
| xgerman | +1 | 21:02 |
| haleyb | xgerman: yes, that's me :) | 21:02 |
| vichoward | lol | 21:02 |
| Sukhdev | emagana: permission granted - you can sign off now :-):-0 | 21:02 |
| regXboi | emagana: -1 can't do that today :( | 21:02 |
| carl_baldwin | Yikes. I’m not really in a position to chair the meeting. Could someone else do it? | 21:02 |
| kevinbenton | neutron meetings can not function headlessly :) | 21:02 |
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| emagana | armax: Are you around? | 21:02 |
| xgerman | #vote haleyb for meeting chair | 21:02 |
| russellb | o/ | 21:02 |
| kevinbenton | \o | 21:02 |
| haleyb | xgerman: oh, you were voting, i didn't understand | 21:02 |
| salv-orlando | let me ring him | 21:03 |
| xgerman | :-) | 21:03 |
| kevinbenton | i was just chatting with armax like 5 minutes ago | 21:03 |
| kevinbenton | he has gone into hiding | 21:03 |
| armax | hallo | 21:03 |
| kevinbenton | ! | 21:03 |
| kevinbenton | armax: go meeting go | 21:03 |
| * regXboi is tempted to pull the string and add armax as a chair | 21:03 | |
| armax | I thought carl_baldwin was going to run it | 21:03 |
| emagana | armax: people claims you! | 21:03 |
| armax | or dougwig? | 21:03 |
| * carl_baldwin thought armax was going to run it. | 21:03 | |
| emagana | three-way confusion! | 21:03 |
| kevinbenton | armax: carl_baldwin is unavailable | 21:03 |
| ihrachys | what a drama | 21:03 |
| armax | I am not prepared..I am in underwear | 21:03 |
| kevinbenton | dougwig is missing | 21:04 |
| emagana | armax: too much info! | 21:04 |
| HenryG | o/ | 21:04 |
| armax | oh boy | 21:04 |
| armax | HenryG: you run it! | 21:04 |
| fitoduarte | +1 too much info | 21:04 |
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| HenryG | Noooo! | 21:04 |
| salv-orlando | this probably means we can skip this meeting | 21:04 |
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| HenryG | Yesss! | 21:04 |
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| amuller | I salute our built in solution lieutenant | 21:04 |
| kevinbenton | i would rather hear that he is in underwear rather than that he isn't | 21:04 |
| armax | salv-orlando: we can’t! | 21:04 |
| russellb | everyone go do more good work! | 21:04 |
| haleyb | better remove all this from the minutes so kyle doesn't see us wasting time | 21:04 |
| russellb | good talk everyone | 21:04 |
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| kevinbenton | any major announcements ? | 21:04 |
| emagana | should we just got a short one then! | 21:04 |
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| pcm_ | I can try... | 21:04 |
| blogan | if the professor hasnt shown up to class in 5 mins, no class | 21:04 |
| amuller | salv-orlando: there is one issue I'd like to bring up | 21:04 |
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| kevinbenton | haleyb: this isn't in the minutes because it hasn't started | 21:04 |
| kevinbenton | #startmeeting networking | 21:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 31 21:05:02 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kevinbenton. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:05 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:05 |
| armax | thre you go! | 21:05 |
| armax | go kevinbenton | 21:05 |
| regXboi | and now it is all on record | 21:05 |
| * pcm_ kevin beat me to it. | 21:05 | |
| blogan | kevinbenton the powerful | 21:05 |
| Sukhdev | way to go kevinbenton | 21:05 |
| kevinbenton | #topic open discussion | 21:05 |
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| blogan | lol | 21:05 |
| salv-orlando | HRM kevinbenton | 21:05 |
| kevinbenton | ok, amuller go | 21:05 |
| regXboi | oh come oh | 21:05 |
| armax | the gate is screwed | 21:05 |
| emagana | I like it.. just to the end of the agenda | 21:05 |
| amuller | As everyone probably know, Friday there was a gate fire | 21:05 |
| armax | stop approving until further notice | 21:05 |
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| amuller | And today one as well | 21:05 |
| Sukhdev | kevinbenton: I have a question - please let me know when to go? | 21:05 |
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| ihrachys | armax: ok, as if it's news | 21:06 |
| amuller | I would like to talk about our functional job | 21:06 |
| amuller | It's... Not in a good state | 21:06 |
| kevinbenton | Sukhdev: after amuller finishes | 21:06 |
| pcm_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:06 |
| amuller | I had to remove it from the gate queue | 21:06 |
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| amuller | it's still voting in the check queue | 21:06 |
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| armax | ihrachys: I know, I am so last year | 21:06 |
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| amuller | I need help getting it in to order. It has many different failures, all with a low failure rate, together causing a high failure rate | 21:06 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: is it still quite unstable? | 21:06 |
| amuller | Here is the list: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=functional-tests | 21:06 |
| dougwig | O/ late | 21:06 |
| amuller | kevinbenton: yes, nothing has changed | 21:06 |
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| amuller | I whipped launchpad in to order | 21:06 |
| amuller | reported new bugs, prioritized, etc | 21:07 |
| HenryG | amuller: should we have a mini code-sprint? | 21:07 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: ok, i got your email, sorry I didn't have a chance to help with that | 21:07 |
| kevinbenton | amuller: i can help fix | 21:07 |
| amuller | now I'm working on elastic search queries, but apart from the bureaucracy, I need people that can fix stuff | 21:07 |
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| amuller | kevinbenton: I appreciate it | 21:07 |
| amuller | I'm currently working on enabling oslo rootwrap daemon mode to log to syslog, so we have some more info to go on | 21:08 |
| amuller | I need warm bodies that can take a bug off that list and hunt it down | 21:08 |
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| amuller | That is all | 21:08 |
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| kevinbenton | ack | 21:08 |
| rossella_s | amuller I can help | 21:08 |
| amuller | rossella_s: I would certainly appreciate it :) | 21:08 |
| kevinbenton | #info the functional job is unstable and needs volunteers to work on bug fixes | 21:08 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: I’ll chime in where I can | 21:08 |
| kevinbenton | #info link to functional issues https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=functional-tests | 21:08 |
| armax | so to be clear: the functional job is only working in the check queue, correct? | 21:09 |
| kevinbenton | Sukhdev: ok, you go now. then i'll go through the agenda on the wiki really quick | 21:09 |
| kevinbenton | armax: yes | 21:09 |
| Sukhdev | I want to know the release alignment strategy for the repo's | 21:09 |
| Sukhdev | for vendors as well L2 GW | 21:09 |
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| kevinbenton | IIUC, it depends on if you are release independent or not | 21:10 |
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| Sukhdev | when Liberty release goes out - how are we suppose to align these repos? | 21:10 |
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| Sukhdev | kevinbenton: release independent | 21:10 |
| kevinbenton | but this is not my area of expertise | 21:10 |
| armax | Sukhdev: the story hasn’t changed | 21:10 |
| ihrachys | Sukhdev: I would say, you should branch at the time when neutron is branched, and make sure you test against proper neutron branch. | 21:10 |
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| carl_baldwin | amuller: I could lend a hand and maybe scare up some others. | 21:10 |
| kevinbenton | Sukhdev: if you are 'release independent' it means you release on your own schedule | 21:10 |
| armax | Sukhdev: you can realease the same way/the same time of Neutron or you don't | 21:11 |
| armax | it’s entirely up to the project release dude | 21:11 |
| russellb | release independent is not aligned ... most got created that way, just by copying the rest | 21:11 |
| amuller | carl_baldwin: Fear is a wonderful tactic | 21:11 |
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| Sukhdev | got it - thanks for clarification folks | 21:11 |
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| neiljerr` | amuller: I will try to help too. | 21:11 |
| ihrachys | not aligned in release dates - yes, but I believe they should still be aligned in branches | 21:11 |
| HenryG | amuller: create an etherpad to align on common problems/quesions? | 21:12 |
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| salv-orlando | the only thing worth stating should be that the project dudes that decide to release with neutron should pick consistent tags | 21:12 |
| ihrachys | I would be surprised if someone manages to maintain code that is compatible with multiple major neutron versions | 21:12 |
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| salv-orlando | but probably that's so trivial it's not even worth mentioning | 21:12 |
| ihrachys | some related info | 21:13 |
| ihrachys | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/devref/sub_project_guidelines.html | 21:13 |
| salv-orlando | ihrachys: it is possible, if your plugin or driver is pretty much a cookiecutter template | 21:13 |
| amuller | HenryG: I think people can collaborate on specific bugs with launchpad/IRC? I don't think we have something linking those bugs together | 21:13 |
| carl_baldwin | amuller: took me a minute to get that. By “scare up” I didn’t mean to actually cause fear to anyone. :) | 21:13 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: the issue is that internal neutron stuff isn't super stable, we like to move code around to see how people react :) | 21:13 |
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| amuller | carl_baldwin: Oh, that's disappointing | 21:14 |
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| kevinbenton | ok | 21:14 |
| kevinbenton | i want to run through this agenda really quick | 21:14 |
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| kevinbenton | then we can go back to open discussion | 21:14 |
| kevinbenton | the open discussion sandwich | 21:14 |
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| kevinbenton | #topic announcements | 21:14 |
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| kevinbenton | #info liberty feature freeze this week | 21:15 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Liberty_Release_Schedule | 21:15 |
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| Sukhdev | kevinbenton: does the FF apply to the documents? | 21:15 |
| kevinbenton | Sukhdev: no, i don't think so | 21:15 |
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| Sukhdev | So, I can push the patch for documenting things after the FF, right? | 21:16 |
| kevinbenton | it also doesn't apply to tests | 21:16 |
| kevinbenton | Sukhdev: yes | 21:16 |
| Sukhdev | kevinbenton: cool - thanks | 21:16 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: what does it imply for those who have a patch or two remaining to merge to claim a blueprint done? | 21:16 |
| kevinbenton | so we can continue fixing functional issues after the freeze | 21:16 |
| rmoats | kevinbenton: nor bug fixes | 21:16 |
| kevinbenton | rmoats: right | 21:16 |
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| kevinbenton | ihrachys: i think we need to get them in this week | 21:16 |
| * rmoats apologies - major network outage so not on as regXboi right now | 21:16 | |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: or they will need an exception | 21:17 |
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| ihrachys | kevinbenton: ack. hopefully all fires are fought and we will have several days to merge. | 21:17 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: right, i image exceptions will be easy for patches that were already approved but got hung up in the gate issues | 21:17 |
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| armax | ihrachys, ajo: I was wondering about the qos blueprints | 21:18 |
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| armax | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/ml2-qos and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/quantum-qos-api | 21:18 |
| ihrachys | armax: specifically?.. | 21:18 |
| armax | is there anything outstanding to mark both ‘completed’? | 21:18 |
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| ihrachys | armax: I believe it's now mostly bug fixes + one refactoring in review | 21:19 |
| armax | ok | 21:19 |
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| armax | ihrachys: tag me on thos? | 21:19 |
| armax | those? | 21:19 |
| ihrachys | I believe the latter would belong under the blueprints, but bugs are ... bugs | 21:19 |
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| ihrachys | refactroring: https://review.openstack.org/214218 | 21:19 |
| armax | but the point is that it’s functionally complete? | 21:19 |
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| ihrachys | and all qos bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=qos | 21:20 |
| Sukhdev | What is the criteria to call blueprint complete? | 21:20 |
| armax | client, server, agent, the whole end to end thingy is there? | 21:20 |
| ihrachys | armax: it is long ago complete | 21:20 |
| armax | right, just confirming | 21:20 |
| ihrachys | yes, client is in | 21:20 |
| amuller | many, many days ago, like at least 5 =D | 21:20 |
| armax | docs are also being tracked? | 21:20 |
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| armax | 5 days? | 21:20 |
| ihrachys | we miss fullstack tests yet, but that's not limited for feature freeze | 21:20 |
| armax | OMG, where was I? under a rock? | 21:20 |
| amuller | was going to ask about release note, and any work on official docs | 21:21 |
| ihrachys | amuller: I reported a bug, and ajo said he reached someone from docs team | 21:21 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty#OpenStack_Liberty_Release_Notes | 21:21 |
| ihrachys | the doc bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1489825 | 21:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1489825 in neutron "Document QoS feature in user guide" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Miguel Angel Ajo (mangelajo) | 21:21 |
| kevinbenton | ^release notes | 21:21 |
| emagana | I can help on tracking that bug on the Docs | 21:21 |
| ihrachys | emagana: that would be great. I am a bit off qos now, so better check with ajo | 21:22 |
| emagana | ihrachys: I will.. and it is better to keep in the networking guide | 21:22 |
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| ihrachys | emagana: if ajo is not in contact with you in days, I will back him up | 21:22 |
| emagana | I just left a comment to him on LP | 21:23 |
| emagana | I will prepare the networking guide ToC to simplify his work... | 21:23 |
| kevinbenton | ok | 21:23 |
| kevinbenton | next topic? | 21:23 |
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| kevinbenton | #topic bugs | 21:24 |
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| kevinbenton | 10 bugs listed here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:24 |
| kevinbenton | anyone want to bring up one in particular? | 21:24 |
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| armax | salv-orlando: any thoughts on this one? | 21:25 |
| armax | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1488282 | 21:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1488282 in neutron "Gate failures with 'the resource could not be found'" [High,Confirmed] - Assigned to Salvatore Orlando (salvatore-orlando) | 21:25 |
| ihrachys | sc68cal: do we close linuxbridge parity issues in L? | 21:25 |
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| kevinbenton | ihrachys: i think sc68cal is off today | 21:26 |
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| salv-orlando | armax: see comments in the bug | 21:26 |
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| salv-orlando | bottom line: not a neutron bug imho. waiting for confirmation from the nova side | 21:27 |
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| armax | well I meant besides those | 21:27 |
| armax | ok | 21:27 |
| salv-orlando | armax: then my answer should have been "I am stil waiting for somebody from the nova team to review the bug" | 21:28 |
| armax | salv-orlando: sounds good | 21:28 |
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| kevinbenton | ok, emagana, any docs info? | 21:29 |
| kevinbenton | #topic docs | 21:29 |
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| emagana | kevinbenton: The net docs team could not meet last week | 21:29 |
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| kevinbenton | ok | 21:29 |
| emagana | I noticed new members contributing to docs.. so we are getting some traction finally | 21:29 |
| kevinbenton | awesome! | 21:30 |
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| emagana | but nothing from my side but what i posted in the wiki | 21:30 |
| kevinbenton | ack | 21:30 |
| armax | woot? | 21:30 |
| kevinbenton | #topic on demand agenda | 21:30 |
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| kevinbenton | pecan | 21:31 |
| armax | walnut | 21:31 |
| salv-orlando | armax: w∞t | 21:31 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: what do you think about merging this cycle? | 21:31 |
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| dougwig | is it the main server if it merges, or optional? | 21:31 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: i'm not particularily a fan of the feature branch because it seems to slow things down | 21:31 |
| kevinbenton | dougwig: optional | 21:31 |
| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: I think we don't have yet anything users can try even in non-prod environment to give us feedbakc | 21:32 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: how well isolated is the new code from the experimental? | 21:32 |
| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: I see your point too | 21:32 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: very isolated | 21:32 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: in it's own folder | 21:32 |
| armax | kevinbenton: ship it | 21:32 |
| kevinbenton | let's see where it is towards the end of the week | 21:32 |
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| salv-orlando | developing in a feature branch is good for one aspect, but requires more frequent sync with master | 21:32 |
| armax | kevinbenton: surely the gate will be broken again, so don’t worry | 21:32 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: I mean, is it enabled somehow with no config changes? | 21:32 |
| kevinbenton | if we can get extensions loading for service plugins fixed and bulk operations | 21:32 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: will that be enough ^^? | 21:33 |
| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: I am doing the former | 21:33 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: also the todos i left for notifications | 21:33 |
| salv-orlando | you can do the latter | 21:33 |
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| kevinbenton | ihrachys: yes | 21:33 |
| salv-orlando | kevinbenton, also ensure at least RPC notifications work | 21:33 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: it will just be a different binary to run | 21:33 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: ack | 21:33 |
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| ihrachys | kevinbenton: oh, ok. so I would say, we should not have feature branches at all for stuff that is completely isolated. | 21:34 |
| dougwig | have we reached a point where it being on a feature branch is slowing things down? | 21:34 |
| kevinbenton | dougwig: yes, i think it actually discourages wider reviews | 21:34 |
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| kevinbenton | dougwig: and then it seems to break every other week by being behind master | 21:34 |
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| ihrachys | kevinbenton: I feel your pain | 21:34 |
| salv-orlando | kevinbenton, armax: anyway for me, even if we merge back the feature branch, I would mark this feature definetely as "experimental, untested, use at your own risk, likely to not work" feature | 21:34 |
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| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: +1 | 21:35 |
| dougwig | then is there harm in merging it to master and letting it finish there, since it's not in the main path? | 21:35 |
| ihrachys | salv-orlando: or better, don't even advertise it? :) | 21:35 |
| dougwig | and salv-orlando +1 | 21:35 |
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| armax | salv-orlando: aye | 21:35 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: yeah, i think we can just pretend it's not there | 21:35 |
| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: actively discouraging review is not necessarily a bad thing. A feature branch is indeed supposed to be a branch where only a small subset of contributors work | 21:35 |
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| salv-orlando | however, for the pecan branch, it's just 3 of us occasionally there | 21:35 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: true, but then the merge back into master is terrible because gerrit doesn't let anyone actually review it | 21:36 |
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| armax | armax pats salv-orlando on the shoulder | 21:36 |
| kevinbenton | +0 -0 change, LGTM! | 21:36 |
| kevinbenton | :) | 21:36 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: well, if reviewers actually want to review, they will manage (amuller did it for qos) | 21:36 |
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| kevinbenton | ihrachys: right, but that feedback isn't captured in a central place | 21:36 |
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| ihrachys | the problem is that no one wants (== everyone trusts your judgement) | 21:37 |
| salv-orlando | let's also say that this is probably not perceived as a burning issue too. Rather than force-raising its priority we should take stock of that. | 21:37 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: we had an etherpad for feedback advertised in the commit message for the merge-back patch. not that it was extremely helpful. | 21:37 |
| dougwig | i feel like we're all talking hypotheticals. does anyone here actually object to merging it back onto master and continuing there? | 21:38 |
| armax | I’m good | 21:38 |
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| ihrachys | dougwig: no objections assuming it won't break us (== it's completely isolated) | 21:38 |
| salv-orlando | dougwig: I have no objection. There's plenty of broken stuff anyway in master | 21:38 |
| ihrachys | salv-orlando: :) | 21:38 |
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| armax | salv-orlando: AMEN | 21:38 |
| kevinbenton | ok | 21:38 |
| salv-orlando | dougwig: let's only seek amuller's opinion | 21:38 |
| salv-orlando | he's the testing general. | 21:38 |
| amuller | I dont like feature branches | 21:38 |
| armax | and there’s plenty of broken stuff outside master too | 21:38 |
| armax | aka netaddr? | 21:39 |
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| salv-orlando | and we'd need to hear from him how comfortable he is around having code which is mostly not covered in tunk | 21:39 |
| salv-orlando | trunk, sorry | 21:39 |
| salv-orlando | and "not covered" == not covered by any sort of testds | 21:39 |
| amuller | salv-orlando: I'll start bothering you when you start making noises about changing pecan to the default | 21:39 |
| armax | I thought amuller was admiral? | 21:39 |
| salv-orlando | meh tonight my finfers are fatter than suaul | 21:39 |
| kevinbenton | well there are some tests | 21:39 |
| kevinbenton | and i can put up some more if amuller wants before the merge | 21:40 |
| salv-orlando | amuller: so I take your comment as saying "as long as you don't run that code I don't care about it" | 21:40 |
| amuller | salv-orlando: for now yes | 21:40 |
| salv-orlando | which I'm ok with | 21:40 |
| dougwig | i was thinking drill seargent. amuller, does your dislike of feature branches translate into agreeing to merge this and continuing dev on master? | 21:40 |
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| amuller | dougwig: yes | 21:40 |
| ihrachys | I guess it's ok to be liberal to get rid of the branch and tough when it will come to actual enablement | 21:40 |
| amuller | salv-orlando: sadly I only care about fires that burn directly below my feet these days | 21:40 |
| salv-orlando | so I guess all the people that could veto the merge back have been queried | 21:40 |
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| kevinbenton | #info merge pecan at the end of the week after folder rename and major issues fixed | 21:40 |
| salv-orlando | amuller: you're entering the perennial firefighting cycle | 21:41 |
| armax | kevinbenton: try a couple of days eearlier | 21:41 |
| armax | for fear of gate turmoil | 21:41 |
| salv-orlando | amuller: it's like crossing a black-hole horizon event | 21:41 |
| kevinbenton | armax: ack | 21:41 |
| armax | besides we’re going to cut a release in the next couple of days | 21:41 |
| armax | do you want it in liberty or not? | 21:41 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: I hope we'll have a day or two to look at the patch before it will be ninja merged though | 21:41 |
| amuller | salv-orlando: that's beautiful :) your way with words is inspirational | 21:41 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: stuff in the queue now is actually going to merge in mitaka :) | 21:41 |
| dougwig | armax: i don't think it matters if it's in liberty. | 21:41 |
| armax | or the one after that | 21:42 |
| salv-orlando | armax: release or "release candidate" | 21:42 |
| dougwig | salv-orlando: or "guaranteed broken release candidate" | 21:42 |
| salv-orlando | fwiw the pecan branch can merge now too. Maybe just merge that api action patch, kevinbenton | 21:42 |
| kevinbenton | dougwig: i don't want to carry a feature branch across a release | 21:42 |
| armax | dougwig: agreed | 21:42 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando, armax: ok. i'll try to do this by the end of the day then | 21:42 |
| armax | let’s not wait then | 21:42 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: i need feedback on what we should call the folder | 21:43 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: but let's discuss that after meeting | 21:43 |
| kevinbenton | next topic! | 21:43 |
| armax | kevinbenton: noname? | 21:43 |
| kevinbenton | #topic vendor decomp | 21:43 |
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| kevinbenton | what should we do with vendors that haven't started decomposing? | 21:43 |
| Sukhdev | kevinbenton: I have a question on vendor deocomp | 21:43 |
| armax | HenryG and I will find time to clear the log during feature freeze | 21:43 |
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| armax | we’ll have a plan and communicate to the world | 21:44 |
| kevinbenton | Sukhdev: go ahead | 21:44 |
| kevinbenton | armax: ok | 21:44 |
| Sukhdev | I have this patch - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207654/ | 21:44 |
| HenryG | We now have many examples that the stragglers can refer to | 21:44 |
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| armax | HenryG: my bad for not being very present lately | 21:44 |
| Sukhdev | which merged long time ago - I used the main blueprint for it - not a bugID | 21:44 |
| HenryG | armax: NP, the situation is not bad | 21:44 |
| Sukhdev | Is this going to be included in Libery? | 21:44 |
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| armax | Sukhdev: yes, I think so | 21:45 |
| ihrachys | Sukhdev: ? if it's in master, yes, it's in L | 21:45 |
| Sukhdev | kevinbenton: I do not see this in the release content list | 21:45 |
| Sukhdev | I see bunch of vendor decamp patches in the release content list - but, not this one - | 21:46 |
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| ihrachys | what is 'release content list'? | 21:46 |
| Sukhdev | want to make sure this does not misses the release | 21:46 |
| armax | Sukhdev: you mean the whiteboard content on the bp page? | 21:46 |
| kevinbenton | Sukhdev: well it merged, there isn't a way to not release it unless it's reverted :) | 21:46 |
| Sukhdev | ihrachys: Kyle posted it last week | 21:46 |
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| armax | Sukhdev: you’re good | 21:46 |
| Sukhdev | OK - in that case I am cool - | 21:46 |
| kevinbenton | ok | 21:47 |
| ihrachys | you are ;) | 21:47 |
| Sukhdev | thanks for clarification folks | 21:47 |
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| kevinbenton | #topic open discussion | 21:47 |
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| armax | I propose we have ‘random chair to neutron irc meeting’ once a month…it adds drama and excitement to the calendar…people will turn up waiting in awe to see who runs the meeting | 21:47 |
| salv-orlando | anyway, how to deal with vendors that do not decompose? | 21:47 |
| armax | :) | 21:47 |
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| salv-orlando | use a stronger acid? | 21:47 |
| kevinbenton | #undo | 21:47 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0xa560110> | 21:47 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: +1 | 21:47 |
| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: that was a joke | 21:47 |
| armax | salv-orlando: they will encounter medioeval pain | 21:47 |
| salv-orlando | no need to undo | 21:47 |
| armax | ? | 21:47 |
| Sukhdev | ihrachys, armax: this is the list that I referred to - https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/liberty-3 | 21:48 |
| kevinbenton | armax: what is the plan for vendors that haven't done anything? | 21:48 |
| salv-orlando | medieval like Marcellus Wallace's way? | 21:48 |
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| armax | salv-orlando: maybe? | 21:48 |
| emagana | armax: I like the proposal of sharing the IRC chair | 21:48 |
| armax | salv-orlando: I was re-watching pulp fiction just the other day | 21:48 |
| armax | emagana: well….it might not be a bad idea after all | 21:49 |
| salv-orlando | honestly since emagana is one of the few with a constant spot on the meeting - we can even make him vice-chair when kyle is not around | 21:49 |
| armax | kevinbenton has been doing a great job | 21:49 |
| kevinbenton | #topic open discussion | 21:49 |
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| kevinbenton | anything else? | 21:49 |
| pcm_ | kevinbenton: Bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1484148 is no longer critical, VPN tests are skipped right now. However need decision on how to handle jobs. | 21:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1484148 in neutron "neutronclient gate broken following VPNaaS infra changes" [Critical,Confirmed] - Assigned to Paul Michali (pcm) | 21:49 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: to your point, I think they are going to be removed in mitaka | 21:50 |
| pcm_ | I posted a Q to ML #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-August/072772.html | 21:50 |
| dougwig | reminder to check CI failures, not just recheck. if you don't see a bug, file one, and let amuller know. | 21:50 |
| armax | kevinbenton: it’s a year they had time to react | 21:50 |
| ihrachys | armax: will we kill database tables too? | 21:50 |
| armax | ihrachys: I don’t think that’s necessary, but we can | 21:51 |
| kevinbenton | pcm_: thanks. i'll need to read more about it to offer an opinion | 21:51 |
| xgerman | I think they should move into their own schema | 21:51 |
| kevinbenton | pcm_: the issue is how to handle service tests in neutron gate? | 21:51 |
| pcm_ | kevinbenton: For the neutronclient | 21:51 |
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| emagana | salv-orlando: I dont want the super power! | 21:52 |
| ihrachys | well, if we do kill them, it means that we leave no way for those vendors to put the effort in M and get something released to support smooth migration | 21:52 |
| ihrachys | smooth == without loosing user data | 21:52 |
| kevinbenton | pcm_: i see | 21:52 |
| pcm_ | kevinbenton: Can have one job with plugins, one job for core and one for adv svc, or one for each adv service. | 21:52 |
| armax | ihrachys: any patch proposed to deal with the plugin will have to be reviewed by the original plugin maintainer | 21:52 |
| pcm_ | I just need to know what we want to do, and I can update the commits. | 21:52 |
| salv-orlando | emagana: try and tell that to the radioactive spider that just bit you ;) | 21:52 |
| kevinbenton | pcm_: maybe just one for all advanced services | 21:52 |
| emagana | emagana: feeling slow typing today! | 21:52 |
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| dougwig | has anyone unicast reached out to the folks with non-decomp'ed code? | 21:52 |
| salv-orlando | emagana: also. Talking to yourself. | 21:53 |
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| armax | ihrachys: and we’ll solicit feedback | 21:53 |
| ihrachys | armax: cool | 21:53 |
| pcm_ | kevinbenton: sure. dougwig is that OK with you? | 21:53 |
| armax | ihrachys: if none is received then we can kill the schema | 21:53 |
| armax | ihrachys: if there is, then we can adjust the course of action | 21:53 |
| kevinbenton | does killing the schema really gain us anything? | 21:54 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: no | 21:54 |
| dougwig | pcm_: sorry, context? is this client tests? server tests won't work well as one job for all services. | 21:54 |
| kevinbenton | seems like a big risk to pissing off users | 21:54 |
| HenryG | dougwig: not that I know of. I was thinking about doing it | 21:54 |
| armax | well | 21:54 |
| emagana | salv-orlando: :-) | 21:54 |
| pcm_ | dougwig: neutron client | 21:54 |
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| dougwig | HenryG: i don't think we should yank until we've tried reaching out. | 21:54 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: I think it's fine to kill it a cycle later. | 21:54 |
| armax | they are not going to be pissed | 21:54 |
| pcm_ | dougwig: Today we have one test, doesn't enable plugins and VPN is commented out. | 21:54 |
| armax | because if there are users who care ($$) then the plugin would have already been decomposed | 21:55 |
| armax | so the point is moot IMO | 21:55 |
| Sukhdev | armax: +1 | 21:55 |
| armax | or if they do care, they don’t care of being on a fork | 21:55 |
| kevinbenton | armax: well there may be an out of tree plugin that is kept up to date for some of these | 21:55 |
| dougwig | pcm_, kevinbenton: it's fine, though in the ideal world, we'd move the services client code into extensions in the services repo, and test it directly there instead. | 21:55 |
| pcm_ | dougwig: I could make an adv services job that enables the VPN plugin and reenable the test. | 21:55 |
| dougwig | pcm_: but as long as it's all munged into the monolithic client, i'm even fine with one job. | 21:56 |
| armax | eitehr way I think we can make the case on each individual extension | 21:56 |
| kevinbenton | armax, ihrachys: if we add a migration that drops tables, we could break something that someone has been using out of tree | 21:56 |
| armax | I would lean towards ‘leave the schema alone' | 21:56 |
| amuller | dougwig: pcm_: aye one job for all *aaS is a fine start IMO | 21:56 |
| amuller | we can expand on it later if it's necessary | 21:56 |
| armax | but I don’t mind if we go all ‘Marcellus Wallace’ on them | 21:56 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: I don't remember the moment when we claimed db schema as part of public API | 21:56 |
| armax | to quote salv-orlando | 21:56 |
| pcm_ | #action pcm_ to create one job for all adv svcs, and existing job will be used for core. | 21:56 |
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| kevinbenton | ihrachys: are plugins not allowed to access the DB? | 21:57 |
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| Sukhdev | kevinbenton: time check 3 min left | 21:57 |
| kevinbenton | Sukhdev: thx | 21:57 |
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| salv-orlando | armax: that would imply they first tried and succeeded to do you things that cannot be mentioned on a logged IRC channel | 21:57 |
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| kevinbenton | ok | 21:58 |
| armax | salv-orlando: ok, I take that back | 21:58 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: I believe thru db_plugin only, but I may be wrong. also, in neutron, it's always hard to say what is public and what is private. but I believe models are too tightly coupled with neutron itself to be safely used from outside. but it may work sometimes, yes. | 21:58 |
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| armax | ihrachys: if it does, it works by accident | 21:59 |
| armax | ...sadly | 21:59 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: well the entire decomp relies on vendors being able to access the database | 21:59 |
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| HenryG | dougwig is going to give us a nice modular neutron-lib real soon now! | 21:59 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: their own database tables, not core. | 21:59 |
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| kevinbenton | ihrachys: right, there are lots of vendor tables in our schema now | 21:59 |
| armax | ihrachys: right…no-one is asking to remove core tables | 21:59 |
| ihrachys | but yeah, we talk about vendor tables. I don't know, maybe HenryG will have better answer. | 22:00 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: which out of tree plugins may be relying on | 22:00 |
| kevinbenton | ok | 22:00 |
| hichihara | we must end | 22:00 |
| kevinbenton | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 31 22:00:14 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-08-31-21.05.html | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-08-31-21.05.txt | 22:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-08-31-21.05.log.html | 22:00 |
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| Sukhdev | thanks guys | 22:00 |
| kevinbenton | by everyone | 22:00 |
| Sukhdev | by | 22:00 |
| armax | kevinbenton: that was abrupt | 22:00 |
| hichihara | bye | 22:00 |
| xgerman | bue | 22:00 |
| yamamoto2 | bye | 22:00 |
| amuller | byebye | 22:00 |
| kevinbenton | bye* | 22:00 |
| hoangcx | Bye | 22:00 |
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| armax | so long | 22:00 |
| kevinbenton | armax: sorry. hit 3:00 | 22:00 |
| armax | I am hurt | 22:00 |
| ZZelle | bye | 22:00 |
| salv-orlando | adieuuuuuuu | 22:00 |
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| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: you're a terrible chair ;) | 22:01 |
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| armax | awful awful | 22:01 |
| neiljerr` | bye | 22:01 |
| kevinbenton | salv-orlando: well that's good. i don't want people sitting on me :) | 22:01 |
| * armax kids | 22:01 | |
| salv-orlando | kevinbenton: lol | 22:01 |
| armax | kevinbenton did a great job, showed leadership and initiative | 22:02 |
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| armax | qualities or a true Leader | 22:02 |
| emagana | ciao! | 22:02 |
| armax | *of | 22:02 |
| armax | kevinbenton FOR PRESIDENT | 22:02 |
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| kevinbenton | armax: you are abusing this channel! | 22:02 |
| emagana | armax: +2 | 22:02 |
| kevinbenton | armax: :) | 22:02 |
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