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boris-42 | #startmeeting Rally | 14:03 |
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openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 7 14:03:08 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is boris-42. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:03 |
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openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:03 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rally' | 14:03 |
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boris-42 | oanufriev: ping | 14:03 |
andreykurilin | \o/ | 14:03 |
ikhudoshyn | o/ | 14:03 |
andreykurilin | ~o~ | 14:03 |
boris-42 | amaretskiy: ping | 14:03 |
amaretskiy | hi | 14:04 |
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e0ne | hi | 14:04 |
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yfried | hi | 14:04 |
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kun_huang | boris-42: pong | 14:05 |
oanufriev | hi | 14:05 |
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andreykurilin | Guys, I have a critical bug-fix for networkcontext+nova-net(v2.1 endpoint) - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220991/ | 14:07 |
andreykurilin | *folks :) | 14:07 |
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boris-42 | andreykurilin: why this work before? | 14:08 |
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andreykurilin | boris-42: nova V2.0 ignores redundant parameters | 14:08 |
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kun_huang | andreykurilin: boris-42 seems neutron's python api changes | 14:09 |
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boris-42 | kun_huang: it's not neutron api | 14:09 |
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yfried | andreykurilin: hard to define n-net as critical :) | 14:09 |
andreykurilin | :) | 14:09 |
boris-42 | kun_huang: it's nova api | 14:09 |
andreykurilin | yfried: heh | 14:09 |
boris-42 | kun_huang: actually our gates are failing | 14:09 |
boris-42 | kun_huang: so it's quite critical* | 14:09 |
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andreykurilin | yfried: it's critical for our gates:) since we uses it there | 14:10 |
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yfried | andreykurilin: reviewed. need jenkins to approve | 14:10 |
andreykurilin | I forgot a link to nova schema - https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/ae55af90d64fbc0447104c1fb9949501c834085c/nova/api/openstack/compute/schemas/networks.py#L30 | 14:11 |
andreykurilin | btw, I have another patch related to V2.1 | 14:12 |
andreykurilin | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/220726/ | 14:12 |
yfried | andreykurilin: boris-42: so anything else on this subject? | 14:12 |
boris-42 | andreykurilin: +2 from me | 14:12 |
boris-42 | yfried: I believe we can move on | 14:12 |
boris-42 | #topic [yfried] "Compose scenario" vs "new input task format | 14:12 |
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yfried | andreykurilin: why can't I see your 2nd patch in Rally dashboard? | 14:12 |
andreykurilin | yfried: hm...I don't know:( | 14:13 |
yfried | boris-42: ^ ? | 14:13 |
yfried | boris-42: I'm reviewing based on these filters. it should be under "Ready for Review" | 14:13 |
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boris-42 | нyfried topic is another lol=) | 14:14 |
yfried | boris-42: sorry, still hanging on the previous. so - moving on | 14:14 |
yfried | re topic | 14:14 |
yfried | we have 2 specs (one merged one under review) links in the agenda (boris-42 could you please post them?) | 14:15 |
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boris-42 | #link https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/doc/specs/in-progress/new_rally_input_task_format.rst | 14:15 |
boris-42 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215762/ | 14:15 |
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boris-42 | yfried: ^ | 14:16 |
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yfried | mkrcmari and myself would like to make sure that #2 is not included in #1 and that #2 is generally accpetable because this is something that will get a lot of our manual testing team to use rally | 14:17 |
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yfried | btw mkrcmari is aix | 14:17 |
boris-42 | yfried: so I don't think that spec about new task fromat is related to this new spec | 14:18 |
boris-42 | aix: ping* | 14:18 |
boris-42 | =) | 14:18 |
* aix is here | 14:18 | |
boris-42 | yfried: there are 2 different things | 14:18 |
yfried | boris-42: let me draft the difference as I understand it and tell me if you agree | 14:18 |
boris-42 | yfried: so format just allows you to execute series of ready scenarios* | 14:18 |
boris-42 | yfried: and this thing should be able to combine parts | 14:19 |
boris-42 | yfried: and these parts can't be scenarios | 14:19 |
boris-42 | yfried: I believe the good thing is to combine current atomic actions* | 14:19 |
yfried | so format spec will allow you to say run "A, B, A(different input), C, D, B(same input),..." and also (maybe) run A and at the same time run B | 14:19 |
yfried | boris-42: ^ 1sec | 14:19 |
boris-42 | yfried: so what I think is that this should be done as a part of spec that refactors rally scenario utils | 14:20 |
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yfried | the 2nd spec is about concatenating multiple scenarios to create some high level scenario (build network, build volume, boot VM into previous resources, collect Ceilometer input about network, volume and VM) | 14:20 |
yfried | boris-42: how? | 14:22 |
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boris-42 | yfried: nope they are not | 14:23 |
yfried | boris-42: please explain, as I think we got out of sync | 14:23 |
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boris-42 | yfried: new input task format is about running N benchmarks one by one or in parallel in the same context | 14:23 |
yfried | boris-42: which is the same as I've said, isn't it? | 14:24 |
boris-42 | yfried: mostly for load + monitoring + HA | 14:24 |
boris-42 | yfried: nope it is not | 14:24 |
boris-42 | yfried: there is no idea to use output of firs benchmark as a chain | 14:24 |
yfried | boris-42: the last part is about "compose" | 14:25 |
boris-42 | yfried: + you are running fully first benchmark, then fully second benchmark, then fully third benchmark | 14:25 |
boris-42 | yfried: nope it is not | 14:25 |
boris-42 | yfried: there is big difference | 14:25 |
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boris-42 | yfried: between running 3 different Scenarios (fully A, fully B, fully C) and running load (A, B, C n times) | 14:25 |
yfried | boris-42: and you say the 1st option is what new format is about? | 14:26 |
yfried | or second? | 14:26 |
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boris-42 | yfried: first is about input task | 14:27 |
yfried | boris-42: yep | 14:27 |
boris-42 | yfried: second is comopsing benchmark | 14:27 |
boris-42 | yfried: so in one case you are running 3 scensarios in second you are running 1 scenario | 14:27 |
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boris-42 | yfried: and that is huge difference | 14:27 |
yfried | boris-42: so about input task - it will allow us to run A(args1), B, A(args2) | 14:27 |
yfried | boris-42: ^? | 14:27 |
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boris-42 | yfried: like it is described... | 14:28 |
yfried | boris-42: ok | 14:28 |
yfried | boris-42: and about "compose" | 14:28 |
yfried | : | 14:28 |
boris-42 | yfried: in case of input task each scenario has own sla/context/runner | 14:28 |
yfried | boris-42: ^ agreed | 14:28 |
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boris-42 | yfried: in case of compose you have one runner and one context for all frankenstain * | 14:29 |
yfried | boris-42: ^ agreed as well | 14:29 |
boris-42 | all/whole* | 14:29 |
yfried | boris-42: and you are not ok with "compose", are you? | 14:29 |
boris-42 | yfried: I am ok with compose | 14:29 |
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boris-42 | yfried: I am not ok with making it from scenarios* | 14:30 |
yfried | boris-42: because I like it and I've seen demand for it around my colleagues | 14:30 |
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boris-42 | yfried: I like as well functionallity but it should be implement in another way | 14:30 |
yfried | boris-42: using atomic-actions would require (IMO) to make atomic a plugin | 14:31 |
boris-42 | yfried: as I said it should be done as a part of scenario utils refactoring | 14:31 |
boris-42 | yfried: and that is okay | 14:31 |
yfried | boris-42: could you please suggest the general idea of how? | 14:31 |
boris-42 | yfried: validation and types will be plugin as well | 14:31 |
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boris-42 | yfried: so just make them plugins that are easy to use in context and scenarios and compose scenarios | 14:32 |
yfried | boris-42: ok, so compose is way down the road and would require me to work on the "scenario utils refactoring" spec. I'd appreciate your help on that | 14:33 |
boris-42 | yfried: in case of atomic we can use output | 14:33 |
yfried | boris-42: ok | 14:33 |
boris-42 | yfried: yep I will help | 14:33 |
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boris-42 | yfried: but I believe if we desing everything well it won't take forever to cover both cases | 14:33 |
boris-42 | yfried: or even 3 | 14:34 |
yfried | boris-42: so please post a summary of this to as review on that spec and let's combine both specs | 14:34 |
boris-42 | yfried: making it simple to use atomics in context, remove wrappers and do compose scenario | 14:34 |
boris-42 | yfried: so I put actually pretty the same information in that spec | 14:34 |
yfried | boris-42: also, can/do we have a way to see approved specs in readthedocs? | 14:35 |
boris-42 | yfried: so it can be done | 14:35 |
boris-42 | yfried: like we are doing for feature request | 14:35 |
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yfried | boris-42: exactly | 14:35 |
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boris-42 | yfried: but it is not done yet | 14:35 |
boris-42 | #topic [boris-42] Rally Info & Plugin reference | 14:36 |
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boris-42 | Okay guys I did a bunch of work related to removing rally info and creating rally plugin | 14:36 |
boris-42 | that contains same functiaonllity | 14:37 |
boris-42 | and in future will manage rally plugins | 14:37 |
boris-42 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217005/ | 14:37 |
boris-42 | ^ here is the chain | 14:38 |
yfried | boris-42: it makes it clear that ctx and runners have bad doc | 14:38 |
boris-42 | yfried: yeeeppp | 14:38 |
boris-42 | yfried: as well that we don't have good docs for base classes | 14:38 |
yfried | boris-42: I'll open bugs about it | 14:38 |
boris-42 | yfried: like context.Context, scenario.Scenario, scenario.Runner | 14:38 |
andreykurilin | boris-42: what about deprecation rally info or removement? | 14:38 |
boris-42 | andreykurilin: so I did the next, i removed all commands | 14:38 |
boris-42 | andreykurilin: except rally info find, rally info list where I wrote it's deprecated use rally plugin find | 14:39 |
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boris-42 | any questions? | 14:42 |
ikhudoshyn | nope | 14:42 |
boris-42 | #topic [boris-42] What is important for Rally 0.1.0 release | 14:42 |
*** openstack changes topic to "[boris-42] What is important for Rally 0.1.0 release (Meeting topic: Rally)" | 14:42 | |
boris-42 | so I believe there are 3 things | 14:43 |
boris-42 | that we should do in this release more | 14:43 |
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boris-42 | 1) rally info stuff | 14:43 |
boris-42 | 2) rally task abort | 14:43 |
boris-42 | 3) rally reports | 14:43 |
boris-42 | ^ yfried ikhudoshyn andreykurilin please review these patches | 14:43 |
ikhudoshyn | sure | 14:43 |
ikhudoshyn | btw, which is for 'task abort' | 14:44 |
ikhudoshyn | I've seen one which looked abandoned for me | 14:45 |
ikhudoshyn | ? | 14:45 |
andreykurilin | about 'task abort': I'll try to check it locally and post new change | 14:46 |
boris-42 | ikhudoshyn:https://review.openstack.org/#/c/161636/ | 14:46 |
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ikhudoshyn | what is 'aborted' in gerrit btw? | 14:46 |
boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: ?) | 14:48 |
ikhudoshyn | boris-42: the patch that you pointed is marked as 'aborted' )) | 14:48 |
boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: ;) | 14:49 |
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ikhudoshyn | looks like something not really good for me | 14:49 |
ikhudoshyn | haha, got it, I feel especially dumb today)) | 14:50 |
boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: it's name of patch lol | 14:50 |
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boris-42 | ikhudoshyn: =) | 14:50 |
boris-42 | okay so let's end this meeting | 14:50 |
boris-42 | see you next week | 14:50 |
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boris-42 | #endmeeting | 14:50 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:50 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 7 14:50:33 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:50 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2015/rally.2015-09-07-14.03.html | 14:50 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2015/rally.2015-09-07-14.03.txt | 14:50 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2015/rally.2015-09-07-14.03.log.html | 14:50 |
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anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 7 15:00:32 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:00 |
anteaya | hello | 15:00 |
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lennyb | anteaya: hi | 15:01 |
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anteaya | hey lennyb | 15:02 |
anteaya | how are you? | 15:02 |
lennyb | anteaya: thank you, just came back from vacation. How are you? | 15:03 |
anteaya | how lovely | 15:03 |
anteaya | I am well thank you | 15:03 |
eantyshev | Hello! | 15:04 |
anteaya | so far it is just you and I | 15:04 |
anteaya | and eantyshev | 15:04 |
anteaya | hello | 15:04 |
anteaya | what shall we discuss today? | 15:04 |
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lennyb | Well.. I have nothing interesting today to ask or tell | 15:04 |
anteaya | okay thanks for saying so lennyb | 15:04 |
eantyshev | git.o.o had problems today, as I noticed | 15:04 |
anteaya | did it? | 15:04 |
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eantyshev | we had failures merging patches, cloning repositories etc. | 15:05 |
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eantyshev | all due to connection failures to git.o.o | 15:05 |
anteaya | have you a paste? | 15:06 |
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eantyshev | http://paste.openstack.org/show/448824/ | 15:07 |
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eantyshev | and it had been happening from 9:30 to 14:07 UTC | 15:08 |
anteaya | #link http://cacti.openstack.org/cacti/graph_view.php?action=tree&tree_id=2 | 15:08 |
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anteaya | that seems to match the load spike on the graph | 15:09 |
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anteaya | did you mention it in the -infra channel? | 15:09 |
eantyshev | no, I saw nobody there and didn't try | 15:10 |
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anteaya | there seems to be twice daily spikes: http://cacti.openstack.org/cacti/graph_image.php?action=view&local_graph_id=2566&rra_id=2 | 15:10 |
anteaya | I'm going to guess that is in line with image creation | 15:11 |
anteaya | and that some third party cis offset a bit from infra's image creation but don't offset that much | 15:11 |
anteaya | that is my guess | 15:11 |
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eantyshev | I beleive that | 15:12 |
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anteaya | so the solution would be to get ci operators co-ordinated so that everyone picked a different time for image creation | 15:13 |
anteaya | so they are spaced out from each other, not all lumped together | 15:13 |
eantyshev | I've modified mine, to match my timezone | 15:14 |
anteaya | awesome | 15:14 |
anteaya | I wish every ci operator paid as much attention to their system as you do | 15:14 |
anteaya | thank you eantyshev | 15:14 |
eantyshev | perhaps, I've customized it even further than I should | 15:15 |
anteaya | you never know until you try | 15:15 |
anteaya | you can post your findings to the -infra channel so we know you are having git failures | 15:15 |
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anteaya | even if noone is in the channel you can post your findings and your paste | 15:15 |
anteaya | then they have it as a data point | 15:16 |
anteaya | all the git servers were upgraded to centos7 form centos6 last week | 15:16 |
eantyshev | Does it make sense to do now? | 15:16 |
anteaya | so we do want to hear your experience | 15:16 |
anteaya | yes | 15:16 |
anteaya | post the failure message and the time frame | 15:16 |
anteaya | clarkb will want to hear | 15:17 |
anteaya | he will read the logs when is online tomorrow | 15:17 |
eantyshev | then I'll do it after our meeting | 15:17 |
anteaya | thank you | 15:17 |
anteaya | other than git.o.o not behaving as expected today for you | 15:17 |
anteaya | do we have anything else we would like to discuss? | 15:17 |
eantyshev | I have a small request, for somebody from core reviewers to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215029/ | 15:18 |
eantyshev | that change which we discussed a week ago | 15:18 |
eantyshev | to support third-party OSes in devstack-gate | 15:18 |
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anteaya | right, I'm not a devstack-gate reviewer | 15:19 |
anteaya | so I can't help much in that regard | 15:19 |
anteaya | two suggestions | 15:19 |
anteaya | 1) patience | 15:19 |
anteaya | 2) add it to the infra meeting agenda for discussion | 15:19 |
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eantyshev | okay, I haven't tried 2) | 15:20 |
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anteaya | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215029/ | 15:21 |
anteaya | you can if you wish | 15:21 |
anteaya | that is the only suggestion I have on this patch | 15:21 |
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eantyshev | Thank you, that's all I wanted to discuss | 15:22 |
anteaya | great thank you eantyshev | 15:22 |
anteaya | unless we have anything else, I'll close the meeting for today | 15:23 |
anteaya | ... | 15:23 |
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anteaya | stop me if I should wait for anything | 15:23 |
* anteaya waits to see if anyone wants to stop her | 15:23 | |
anteaya | thanks for your attendance and kind participation today | 15:23 |
anteaya | I hope to see you next week, and for some at 0800 utc Tuesday | 15:24 |
anteaya | thank you | 15:24 |
anteaya | #endmeeting | 15:24 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 7 15:24:17 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:24 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-09-07-15.00.html | 15:24 |
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gpaz | Hello Mistral | 16:00 |
NikolayM | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 7 16:00:54 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is NikolayM. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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NikolayM | hi everyone! | 16:01 |
gpaz | Hello | 16:01 |
NikolayM | hi, gpaz | 16:01 |
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^Gal^ | hellllo | 16:01 |
LimorStotland | hi all | 16:01 |
akuznetsova | hi there !) | 16:01 |
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NikolayM | the meeting seems to be a bit shorter, we have no action items | 16:02 |
xylan_kong | hi, all | 16:03 |
NikolayM | let's start | 16:03 |
NikolayM | #topic Review Action items | 16:03 |
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NikolayM | no action items | 16:03 |
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^Gal^ | :D | 16:03 |
xylan_kong | hehe | 16:03 |
NikolayM | #topic Current status | 16:03 |
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LimorStotland | Nice :-) | 16:03 |
NikolayM | yes :) | 16:03 |
NikolayM | guys, let's tell our status for last week | 16:04 |
^Gal^ | I'm on execution update, haven't got much time to work on that last week | 16:04 |
^Gal^ | no technocal barriers though | 16:04 |
^Gal^ | technical* | 16:04 |
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xylan_kong | my status: complete action-execution-deletion blueprint before l-3, have a 3-days holiday, :-) | 16:05 |
NikolayM | my status: still working on the docs, already done with terminology, quickstart, architecture and CLI, next - 'how to write workflow' | 16:05 |
gpaz | Fix for expiration policy was merged. I wanted to work on the Docs for that but unfortantly I was busy with internal stuff here | 16:05 |
LimorStotland | working on internal stuff | 16:06 |
akuznetsova | my status: fix devstack gates twice :) made commit to openstack-infra to add gate that will build our docs | 16:06 |
xylan_kong | NikolayM: how about the progress of doc work? | 16:06 |
xylan_kong | akuznetsova: thanks very much for your work! | 16:06 |
^Gal^ | NikolayM: I want to write further documentation on how to to debug mistral-dashboard, just appeared to me that I missed some keynotes | 16:07 |
akuznetsova | xylan_kong, you are welcome) | 16:07 |
NikolayM | xylan_kong: It is almost completed, only a few articles remain | 16:07 |
xylan_kong | NikolayM: greate | 16:07 |
NikolayM | ^Gal^, sure, you are free to write it | 16:08 |
^Gal^ | :P | 16:08 |
NikolayM | one thing: please, write it to main mistral repo, in doc/source | 16:08 |
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NikolayM | there is existent docs on dashboard, could you edit it? | 16:09 |
^Gal^ | NikolayM: ok, sure. what about mistral dashboard github readme? | 16:09 |
^Gal^ | NikolayM: sure | 16:09 |
rakhmerov | hi guys | 16:09 |
NikolayM | it is partly moved to that article | 16:09 |
NikolayM | hi rakhmerov | 16:09 |
akuznetsova | NikolayM, ^Gal^ I think that you are working on different 'parts' of docs, so your commit should not conflict | 16:09 |
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NikolayM | akuznetsova, yep | 16:10 |
rakhmerov | my status: I was working on the patch: https://review.openstack.org/220439 | 16:10 |
^Gal^ | Ok, so should I update both repos? | 16:10 |
rakhmerov | it's about fixing a bug with cyclic workflows and refactoring specifications | 16:10 |
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^Gal^ | both mistral and mistral dashboard readme? | 16:10 |
NikolayM | ^Gal^, there is another article (currently is not started yet) - troubleshooting | 16:10 |
akuznetsova | ^Gal^, NikolayM also I think that it will be cool to add user guide with screenshots ) | 16:11 |
^Gal^ | akuznetsova: +1 | 16:11 |
rakhmerov | +2 :) | 16:11 |
rakhmerov | (as a core :))) ) | 16:11 |
^Gal^ | lol | 16:11 |
^Gal^ | :P | 16:11 |
NikolayM | ^Gal^, I think no, it is enough to have docs at the main doc source (docs.openstack.org) | 16:11 |
NikolayM | haha :) | 16:11 |
^Gal^ | NikolayM: ok :) | 16:12 |
LimorStotland | I agree with NikolayM | 16:12 |
^Gal^ | LimorStotland: ok, thanks! | 16:12 |
LimorStotland | and the rest :-) | 16:12 |
^Gal^ | I agree with Limor | 16:12 |
^Gal^ | :P | 16:12 |
NikolayM | akuznetsova has submitted the patch to the infra recently and docs soon starts to build on docs.openstack.org | 16:13 |
rakhmerov | yep | 16:13 |
xylan_kong | good job | 16:13 |
NikolayM | for every merged patch in mistral | 16:13 |
akuznetsova | hope so) | 16:13 |
rakhmerov | here it is: https://review.openstack.org/220226 | 16:13 |
NikolayM | thanks, akuznetsova! | 16:13 |
rakhmerov | :) | 16:13 |
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rakhmerov | so folks, I'll be annoying again and talking about L-3 | 16:15 |
rakhmerov | #topic Wrapping up L-3 | 16:15 |
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rakhmerov | as you know, we're a couple of days behind with L-3 release | 16:15 |
rakhmerov | technically, it's a couple of hours to make a release | 16:15 |
rakhmerov | but.. | 16:15 |
NikolayM | #topic Wrapping up L-3 | 16:15 |
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rakhmerov | ooh, thanks! I forgot you're a host | 16:16 |
rakhmerov | :) | 16:16 |
NikolayM | do you want some patches to get merged? | 16:16 |
rakhmerov | I just want that we have a chance to finish planned BPs | 16:16 |
rakhmerov | yes | 16:16 |
LimorStotland | do we still have open bp (not in the ui)? | 16:17 |
rakhmerov | ^Gal^: I know you're busy with internal stuff but I have to ask you about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-dashboard-executions-screen | 16:17 |
rakhmerov | is there a chance you'll finish it tomorrow? | 16:17 |
^Gal^ | nope | 16:17 |
^Gal^ | :( | 16:17 |
rakhmerov | ok, honest answer ) | 16:17 |
^Gal^ | lol | 16:17 |
rakhmerov | let's move it to RC-1 | 16:17 |
^Gal^ | rakhmerov: thanks! and sorry | 16:18 |
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rakhmerov | that's ok | 16:18 |
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rakhmerov | another one is https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-action-execution-deletion | 16:18 |
xylan_kong | rakhmerov, NikolayM: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/216509/ need +1 for workflow, but i found there is devstack failure which has nothing to do with my patch | 16:19 |
rakhmerov | xylan_kong: yes, I just wanted to say this | 16:19 |
NikolayM | yes, something with changing execution states | 16:19 |
rakhmerov | are you sure it has nothing to do with it? | 16:19 |
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rakhmerov | give me a sec | 16:19 |
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xylan_kong | NikolayM: you met with this failure? | 16:20 |
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rakhmerov | yeah, it's NegativeCLITests.test_ex_invalid_status_changing | 16:20 |
rakhmerov | hm.. weird | 16:20 |
akuznetsova | ooo | 16:20 |
rakhmerov | akuznetsova: do you know what's going on? | 16:21 |
NikolayM | xylan_kong, I just see an error in gate | 16:21 |
akuznetsova | I have a theory | 16:21 |
xylan_kong | seems like the calling goes well, no exception is raised | 16:21 |
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akuznetsova | seems like it can be related to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219870/2 | 16:22 |
xylan_kong | if it's not so urgent issue, i can figure it out tomorrow | 16:22 |
akuznetsova | there wasn't such problem in previously merged patch, but here this test failed | 16:22 |
rakhmerov | yes, I think akuznetsova is right | 16:23 |
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rakhmerov | I think I even know what the problem is | 16:23 |
rakhmerov | xylan_kong: yes, please look at it tomorrow | 16:23 |
xylan_kong | rakhmerov: ok | 16:23 |
xylan_kong | rakhmerov: i'll cover it | 16:23 |
rakhmerov | #action xylan_kong: look at the failing test NegativeCLITests.test_ex_invalid_status_changing, it may be related with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219870/2 | 16:24 |
rakhmerov | xylan_kong: thnx, appreciate | 16:24 |
akuznetsova | yes, thanks | 16:24 |
rakhmerov | then let's merge Lingxian's patch now | 16:24 |
xylan_kong | np | 16:24 |
xylan_kong | rakhmerov: and this one, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-pagination-support, needs your approval and consider it as completed | 16:24 |
xylan_kong | for now | 16:25 |
rakhmerov | already done | 16:25 |
rakhmerov | I did it today | 16:25 |
xylan_kong | rakhmerov: really? I see no aprover | 16:25 |
rakhmerov | I usually mark BPs as "Beta available" before it's released | 16:26 |
rakhmerov | there is an approver ) | 16:26 |
rakhmerov | so it's been taken care of | 16:26 |
xylan_kong | ok | 16:26 |
rakhmerov | let's see what else we have.. | 16:26 |
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rakhmerov | xylan_kong: I also wanted to find out the status of https://review.openstack.org/216729 | 16:27 |
rakhmerov | but zhenguo is not here | 16:27 |
rakhmerov | do you happen to know his plans on it? | 16:28 |
xylan_kong | rakhmerov: yeah, i believe he want it to be merged in l-3 | 16:28 |
rakhmerov | right, but now jenkins votes -1 | 16:28 |
rakhmerov | I guess it needs to be rebased or something.. | 16:28 |
rakhmerov | ok, we need to ask him tomorrow | 16:29 |
xylan_kong | rakhmerov: I'll contact him tomorrow | 16:29 |
rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov, xylan_kong: remind zhenguo about https://review.openstack.org/216729 | 16:29 |
rakhmerov | yes | 16:29 |
rakhmerov | so, just to let you know | 16:29 |
xylan_kong | let him finish it ASAP | 16:29 |
rakhmerov | yes | 16:29 |
xylan_kong | if there is not tech debate on that | 16:29 |
rakhmerov | I'm going to make a release tomorrow evening anyway | 16:29 |
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rakhmerov | if something is not in then we'll have to move it to RC1 | 16:30 |
xylan_kong | ok, good, do what you think is right :-) | 16:30 |
rakhmerov | akuznetsova: I know you had comments on this patch so please try to participate tomorrow | 16:30 |
xylan_kong | akuznetsova: yeah, need your insight and expertise | 16:31 |
akuznetsova | rakhmerov, xylan_kong ok | 16:31 |
rakhmerov | xylan_kong: and I need your review on https://review.openstack.org/220439 :)) | 16:32 |
rakhmerov | you should like this patch ) | 16:32 |
xylan_kong | np, leave another action item for me | 16:32 |
xylan_kong | :-) | 16:33 |
akuznetsova | if zhenguo won't be available, I can rebase/send new patch set for this patch | 16:33 |
xylan_kong | i'll do them all tomorrow | 16:33 |
rakhmerov | #action xylan_kong: review https://review.openstack.org/220439 and Nikolay's documentation patches | 16:33 |
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rakhmerov | akuznetsova: yes, we can do it | 16:33 |
rakhmerov | ok | 16:33 |
rakhmerov | NikolayM: I guess we can move https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/mistral-documentation to RC1? | 16:34 |
rakhmerov | this is a grouping BP | 16:34 |
NikolayM | yep, I also think so | 16:34 |
rakhmerov | not all docs will be ready by the EOD tomorro, right? | 16:34 |
rakhmerov | ok | 16:34 |
NikolayM | some of bps are not completed | 16:34 |
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xylan_kong | i can't wait to see our doc listed on website :-) | 16:35 |
rakhmerov | yep | 16:35 |
rakhmerov | me too ) | 16:35 |
xylan_kong | it's really useful for new comers | 16:35 |
rakhmerov | guys, we need to make our docs shine during Sept | 16:36 |
rakhmerov | yes | 16:36 |
rakhmerov | we've been hearing much complaints about our docs | 16:36 |
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rakhmerov | now it's high time we made them good and useful | 16:36 |
^Gal^ | mistral dashboard tasks screen bp - assigend to Liat, not finished either | 16:36 |
xylan_kong | rakhmerov: yes, i did this when i came to mistral the first day | 16:36 |
^Gal^ | same for cron trigger on mistral-dashboard | 16:37 |
rakhmerov | ^Gal^: I know, I promised to help her with it but didn't find time today. Will do tomorrow, either me or zhenguo | 16:37 |
^Gal^ | rakhmerov: oh ok, didn't know she contacted you | 16:37 |
rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov, zhenguo: help Liat with her patch on tasks screen | 16:37 |
rakhmerov | ^Gal^: cron trigger screen has been moved to RC1 | 16:37 |
rakhmerov | which is ok | 16:38 |
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rakhmerov | like I said there's no time tension on UI work, we have more flexibility on it | 16:38 |
rakhmerov | but I just want to have some discipline anyway | 16:38 |
^Gal^ | aggree | 16:39 |
rakhmerov | guys, one more thing I'd love to be able to push into L-3 is a new YAQL function for extracting task result | 16:40 |
rakhmerov | [openstack-dev] [mistral][yaql] Addressing task result using YAQL function | 16:40 |
rakhmerov | you can look at this thread and express your opinion | 16:40 |
xylan_kong | yes, i saw the email, didn't have time to reply. i like the idea | 16:40 |
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xylan_kong | task(name) | 16:40 |
rakhmerov | nobody is against it so far | 16:40 |
rakhmerov | yes | 16:41 |
rakhmerov | and there's a strong technical reason to do so | 16:41 |
rakhmerov | you can read my explanations if you want | 16:41 |
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rakhmerov | so, me or Nikolay will try to get it knocked down tomorro | 16:41 |
rakhmerov | xylan_kong: please be ready to review | 16:41 |
xylan_kong | rakhmerov: np | 16:42 |
xylan_kong | always in the position for help | 16:42 |
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rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov or NikolayM: implement task() yaql function | 16:42 |
rakhmerov | ok | 16:42 |
rakhmerov | so this is all I wanted to discuss on L-3 | 16:43 |
rakhmerov | do you have anything else? | 16:43 |
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xylan_kong | rakhmerov: don't forget the client release | 16:43 |
rakhmerov | yes | 16:43 |
rakhmerov | ooh, btw, is gpaz here? | 16:44 |
gpaz | yes | 16:44 |
rakhmerov | can you please carefully look at the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218544/ ? | 16:44 |
gpaz | hi, I saw your changes for the test | 16:44 |
rakhmerov | it's already merged and it actually looks slightly weird | 16:45 |
rakhmerov | it's because looks like expiration policy doesn't run as expected | 16:45 |
rakhmerov | for some reason | 16:45 |
gpaz | I was a critical issue in some production that still a lot of my time this week :( | 16:45 |
rakhmerov | so Winson says it may not run every minute as configured for some reason | 16:45 |
gpaz | I m not sure I understand why it is failing | 16:45 |
rakhmerov | yes | 16:45 |
rakhmerov | no urgency but pls try to investigate once you have time | 16:46 |
gpaz | I hope tommorow I ll have time | 16:46 |
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rakhmerov | #action gpaz: try to investigate what may be wrong with expiration policy (look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218544/) | 16:46 |
gpaz | last days were realy busy here for me with customers | 16:46 |
rakhmerov | ok | 16:46 |
rakhmerov | it's understandable, no need to explain | 16:47 |
rakhmerov | thanks | 16:47 |
gpaz | where you saw it is failing by the way ? | 16:47 |
rakhmerov | it even happens on my local dev machine | 16:47 |
rakhmerov | once in a while | 16:47 |
gpaz | Ok | 16:48 |
gpaz | I will take alook | 16:48 |
^Gal^ | #action ^Gal^: make mistral-dashboard debug shine | 16:48 |
rakhmerov | approximately every third or forth time | 16:48 |
rakhmerov | :) | 16:48 |
rakhmerov | haha )) | 16:48 |
gpaz | weired, never failed for me .. | 16:48 |
gpaz | Ok, taking that | 16:48 |
rakhmerov | yeah, it looks like a concurrency problem | 16:49 |
rakhmerov | it behaves differently on different machines | 16:49 |
rakhmerov | so now I really don't have anything else to discuss | 16:49 |
rakhmerov | let's go to open discussion | 16:49 |
rakhmerov | or end the meeting | 16:49 |
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xylan_kong | rakhmerov: do you already have a plan for Tokyo Summit? I'm very interested in it | 16:49 |
rakhmerov | xylan_kong: no detailed plan | 16:50 |
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rakhmerov | of course, I know major topics that we need to discuss | 16:50 |
xylan_kong | rakhmerov: all right, so we can discuss face to face if there's a chance | 16:51 |
rakhmerov | btw, please share your suggestion for the fishbowl session (with larger audience and projector) | 16:51 |
rakhmerov | xylan_kong: yes | 16:51 |
rakhmerov | at fishbowl session, for example, you could tell about your experience using Mistral or something like that | 16:51 |
xylan_kong | rakhmerov: no problem | 16:52 |
rakhmerov | sort of a promo actually | 16:52 |
rakhmerov | ok | 16:52 |
xylan_kong | rakhmerov: i can share story with HWS using workfow (but it's not mistral) | 16:52 |
rakhmerov | ok, let's talk about it in a few days | 16:53 |
xylan_kong | sure | 16:53 |
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xylan_kong | so, nothing need to discuss for me | 16:53 |
rakhmerov | ok | 16:54 |
rakhmerov | NikolayM: let's end the meeting? | 16:54 |
rakhmerov | you are in charge today ) | 16:54 |
NikolayM | sure | 16:55 |
NikolayM | #endmeeting | 16:55 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Mon Sep 7 16:55:06 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:55 |
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openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-09-07-16.00.html | 16:55 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-09-07-16.00.txt | 16:55 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-09-07-16.00.log.html | 16:55 |
rakhmerov | bye and thanks for joining! | 16:55 |
xylan_kong | thanks bodies | 16:55 |
NikolayM | bye! | 16:55 |
^Gal^ | bye | 16:55 |
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matjazp | #startmeeting training-guides | 17:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Mon Sep 7 17:00:35 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is matjazp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' | 17:00 |
matjazp | hi all | 17:00 |
matjazp | roll call | 17:00 |
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matjazp | anyone here? | 17:03 |
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cloudtrainme | Hi matjazp: I'm here | 17:03 |
mgrohar | here | 17:04 |
matjazp | hey cloudtrainme | 17:04 |
matjazp | hey mgrohar | 17:04 |
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mgrohar | hi all | 17:04 |
matjazp | should we start or should we wait a bit more? | 17:04 |
matjazp | agenda #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/training-guides | 17:04 |
matjazp | lets review action items from previous meeting | 17:05 |
matjazp | timfreund: you around? | 17:06 |
matjazp | I had sent a status mail on Doc ML | 17:07 |
matjazp | upstream publishing is on the agenda, so wil talk about it later | 17:07 |
matjazp | #info matjazp submitted bugs to serve as a guides what needs to be done in Training guides | 17:08 |
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matjazp | #info Docs community was notified about new scope and other changes to the project | 17:08 |
matjazp | cloudtrainme: did you managed to make some slides about nova? need help? | 17:09 |
cloudtrainme | I submitted the bug, but haven't been able to knock out the slide yet. Sorry. I'll aim to get that done this week. | 17:10 |
matjazp | no problems | 17:10 |
matjazp | lets just go to agenda | 17:10 |
matjazp | #topic Upstream material and Tokyo | 17:10 |
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matjazp | there is some activity about that | 17:11 |
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matjazp | mgrohar submitted his first patch | 17:11 |
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mgrohar | yes, first one | 17:12 |
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matjazp | Miha, can you please just introduce yourself? | 17:12 |
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mgrohar | ok | 17:12 |
mgrohar | so I work at University od Ljubljana | 17:13 |
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mgrohar | have been in OpenStack couple of years | 17:13 |
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mgrohar | we run a small openstack cloud and I also have some training experiences as an instructor | 17:14 |
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mgrohar | looking forward to do some additonal work in the training-guides project | 17:15 |
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matjazp | great :) | 17:15 |
cloudtrainme | mgrohar: Welcome. Congrats on your first patch! | 17:15 |
codebauss | i'd like a bit more info on contributing to the training guides, is there a link | 17:15 |
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matjazp | codebauss: sure: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Training-guides | 17:16 |
matjazp | wiki is a bit old | 17:16 |
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matjazp | but you can also ask me or anyone on Doc ML | 17:16 |
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matjazp | mgrohar is also my coworker, so I guess I nagged him enough to cave in and start contributing ;) | 17:17 |
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matjazp | ok, tim is not here so we can skip to the next item on the agenda | 17:17 |
cloudtrainme | matjazp: well done! I need to do the same | 17:18 |
matjazp | cloudtrainme: hmm.. can I make it an action item ;) | 17:18 |
cloudtrainme | matjazp: LOL...why yes you can | 17:18 |
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codebauss | thx matjazp | 17:19 |
matjazp | cloudtrainme: it helps to just sit with them together and pick a small low-hanging-fruit and make the patch | 17:19 |
matjazp | #action cloudtrainme tries to persuade his coworkers to join the project | 17:20 |
matjazp | codebauss: np. ask if you get stuck. pick a low-hanging-fruit bug as a first patch. | 17:20 |
matjazp | #topic Upstream training publishing and landing page | 17:21 |
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matjazp | ok, so as I see it, we need to set our goals first... where and how we want to publish upstream material | 17:21 |
matjazp | alternatives are | 17:21 |
matjazp | a section under http://docs.openstack.org/ (like Install guides, API reference, etc.) | 17:22 |
matjazp | or/and http://www.openstack.org/marketplace/training under "OpenStack Online Help" in the right of this page | 17:23 |
matjazp | there are already 4 links to dofferent docs | 17:23 |
matjazp | what do you think? we shoot for both? | 17:23 |
cloudtrainme | I was going to say both. | 17:24 |
cloudtrainme | I know docs gets a lot of traffic | 17:24 |
mgrohar | both seem fine | 17:24 |
cloudtrainme | Does the marketplace get good traffic? | 17:24 |
matjazp | we need to discuss this on Docs ML, should we get a separate section | 17:25 |
matjazp | cloudtrainme: dont know, I wa just trying to fit this somewhere that is the most logical choice | 17:25 |
cloudtrainme | matjazp: makes sense | 17:26 |
matjazp | and of course: do we need another special landing page or not. | 17:26 |
matjazp | I mean, do we just publish links on slides on the docs page, or to the separate page that has link to the slides | 17:27 |
matjazp | am I making sense? | 17:27 |
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mgrohar | i think no additonla lp is needed if we have the docs page | 17:28 |
cloudtrainme | agreed. as long as we clearly indicate that these are training slides...not full blown docs. | 17:29 |
matjazp | cloudtrainme: yes, how do we do this? | 17:29 |
matjazp | cloudtrainme: with a another landing page, it is trivial | 17:29 |
matjazp | cloudtrainme: but if we just publish direct links, that is harder | 17:30 |
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cloudtrainme | when you say another landing page are you suggesting a new link like training.openstack.org? | 17:31 |
matjazp | maybe we name the section "Training slides" and not "Training guides" | 17:31 |
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matjazp | cloudtrainme: no, a page that shows when user clicks on the link on the Docs page | 17:31 |
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cloudtrainme | matjazp: maybe a new lp does make sense if it allows us to distinguish the training slides better. | 17:33 |
mgrohar | what would be the content of the new lp? direct links to slide sets? | 17:33 |
matjazp | we could also change the current landing page (that is generated by the hieroglyph as a slide) | 17:34 |
matjazp | mgrohar: yes, some text explaining things and links to the slides | 17:34 |
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matjazp | current landing page (see http://docs.openstack.org/draft/upstream-training) is in the form of a slide deck, we could make this a custom landing page with text and direct links | 17:35 |
mgrohar | ok, in that case a new lp is more appropriate imo | 17:37 |
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matjazp | if we cut out "draft" from that URL, it could also be the landing page, with links to the slide chapters. | 17:37 |
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matjazp | and then we just publish links to that on Docs.openstack.org under "Training gjuides" section | 17:38 |
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matjazp | and put a link on the marketplace/training pointing to docs section | 17:39 |
matjazp | makes sense? | 17:39 |
cloudtrainme | matjazp: sounds like a good plan to me. | 17:40 |
matjazp | ok | 17:40 |
mgrohar | yep, ok | 17:40 |
matjazp | #info we make a new anding page instead of the current that is in the form of the slides | 17:40 |
matjazp | #info we publish upstream in the docs.openstack.org, under a separate section | 17:41 |
matjazp | #info we put a link to that on the marketplace/training landing page under "OpenStack Online Help" | 17:42 |
matjazp | moving on | 17:42 |
matjazp | #topic Training slides | 17:42 |
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matjazp | I see now that I need to write down a TOC for this | 17:43 |
matjazp | we assumed we will just convert old XML format (old Icehouse training guides material) to the RST slide format | 17:43 |
matjazp | but this stalled (except some work on the netwirking) | 17:43 |
matjazp | #action matjazp puts training slides TOC on the wiki | 17:44 |
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matjazp | idea is to have small units (modules) that explain a single topic | 17:45 |
matjazp | and then just put them together for a training session | 17:45 |
matjazp | it will be easier to update this way, but it also means it can lack coherence | 17:46 |
matjazp | TOC should help with the bigger picture | 17:46 |
matjazp | sonds ok? | 17:46 |
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matjazp | sounds | 17:46 |
mgrohar | ok | 17:46 |
cloudtrainme | yup | 17:46 |
matjazp | idea is also that we reause as much diagrams and stuff from the existing guides and put links to that in the presenter notes | 17:47 |
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matjazp | existing guides= existing openstack docs | 17:47 |
mgrohar | makes sense | 17:49 |
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matjazp | ok, moving to the last topic | 17:49 |
matjazp | #topic Sharing screenshots of slides in reviews and bugs | 17:49 |
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matjazp | in the review process, I found that there is no "official" openstack way to share screenshots in the review comments | 17:50 |
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matjazp | like when you need to show that something renders wrong | 17:50 |
matjazp | we have we have paste.openstack.org for text | 17:51 |
matjazp | but not for pic | 17:51 |
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matjazp | we could use something like skitch and publish on iloud or google drive | 17:52 |
matjazp | but that is ephemeral | 17:52 |
matjazp | so the question is, because of the transparency, do we need something that lasts longer? | 17:53 |
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cloudtrainme | something that last longer would be ideal, but I'm not sure what solutions are out there besides google, or dropbox. | 17:54 |
cloudtrainme | Be cool to use OpenStack Swift somehow. | 17:54 |
matjazp | cloudtrainme: yes, we can take this to the Docs ML and see what others think | 17:55 |
matjazp | cloudtrainme: I'm sure there are opensource "imagebin" (pastebin clones) | 17:56 |
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matjazp | cloudtrainme: suggest that to the openstack-infra folks | 17:56 |
cloudtrainme | matjazp: agreed. asking on the Docs ML may help us find other options. | 17:56 |
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matjazp | #action: matjazp sends a wueistion regarding pics "pastebin" (ala paste.openstak.org) to the docs ML | 17:57 |
matjazp | #topic AOB | 17:57 |
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matjazp | anything else? | 17:58 |
mgrohar | no | 17:58 |
cloudtrainme | nothing here | 17:58 |
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matjazp | ok, thank you guys for you time | 17:58 |
matjazp | see you next week | 17:58 |
matjazp | bye! | 17:59 |
mgrohar | bye | 17:59 |
cloudtrainme | Have a good week all. See you next time. | 17:59 |
matjazp | #endmeeting | 17:59 |
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openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-09-07-17.00.html | 17:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-09-07-17.00.txt | 17:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2015/training_guides.2015-09-07-17.00.log.html | 17:59 |
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