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| anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 22 08:00:56 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 08:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 08:01 |
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| anteaya | hello | 08:01 |
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| anteaya | raise your hand if you are here for the third-party meeting | 08:01 |
| vhejral | here ;) | 08:02 |
| anteaya | hello | 08:02 |
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| anteaya | I don't know as we have met before | 08:02 |
| anteaya | welcome | 08:02 |
| anteaya | which third party ci system is yours? | 08:02 |
| vhejral | i am intel networking ci - working with wznoinsk | 08:03 |
| anteaya | oh | 08:03 |
| anteaya | how is your ci working? | 08:03 |
| vhejral | good ;) thx | 08:03 |
| anteaya | glad to hear it | 08:03 |
| anteaya | do you mean to wink at me with every statement you make? | 08:04 |
| anteaya | is that on purpose? | 08:04 |
| vhejral | it was, the answer is no | 08:05 |
| anteaya | okay | 08:05 |
| anteaya | do you have anything you would like to discuss today? | 08:05 |
| vhejral | i don't | 08:05 |
| anteaya | okay well thanks for being here | 08:05 |
| anteaya | we can wait a few minutes and see if anyone else shows up with anything to discuss | 08:06 |
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| anteaya | oh and this | 08:07 |
| anteaya | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/186684/ | 08:07 |
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| anteaya | this patch merged in the past and broke some things so it was reverted | 08:08 |
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| anteaya | and it will merge again soon | 08:08 |
| anteaya | so take a look at your ci system to ensure yours won't break once it merges | 08:08 |
| anteaya | it was discussed at the 15:00 third party meeting yesterday | 08:09 |
| anteaya | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-meeting/%23openstack-meeting.2015-09-21.log.html#t2015-09-21T15:05:36 | 08:09 |
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| anteaya | well I don't see anyone else here today | 08:22 |
| anteaya | so I will close up the meeting | 08:22 |
| anteaya | thanks for your attendance vhejral | 08:22 |
| anteaya | hope to see you again sometime | 08:23 |
| anteaya | enjoy the rest of your day | 08:23 |
| anteaya | #endmeeting | 08:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 08:23 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 22 08:23:25 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-09-22-08.00.html | 08:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-09-22-08.00.txt | 08:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-09-22-08.00.log.html | 08:23 |
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| alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 12:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 22 12:00:09 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 12:00 |
| edleafe | o/ | 12:00 |
| alex_xu | Hello, who is here today? | 12:00 |
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| alex_xu | edleafe: you are faster than my question | 12:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 12:00 |
| edleafe | always! :) | 12:00 |
| * alex_xu will use copy/paste next time | 12:01 | |
| sdague | o/ | 12:01 |
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| alex_xu | hello everyone, let's start the meeting | 12:01 |
| alex_xu | #topic actions from last meeting | 12:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "actions from last meeting (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 12:01 | |
| alex_xu | alex_xu_ and oomichi take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1495388 more | 12:01 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1495388 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "The instance hostname didn't match the RFC 952 and 1123's definition" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Eli Qiao (taget-9) | 12:01 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/224438 | 12:01 |
| alex_xu | Thanks to eliqiao work on it | 12:02 |
| alex_xu | I think the patch is close. hope everybody review i | 12:02 |
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| alex_xu | the empty hostname is the only bug we find for hostname | 12:03 |
| sdague | so, I thought on linux the max hostname was 64 characters | 12:03 |
| sdague | dnsmasq doesn't work if you have things longer than that | 12:03 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: oops, I didn't try that. just read rfc, there is relax for that | 12:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: I think on windows its even smaller | 12:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | but yeah, its dnsmasq that is the issue here | 12:04 |
| sdague | alex_xu: yeh, so the dnsmasq thing should be figured out | 12:04 |
| alex_xu | ok, I will ask eliqiao help to recheck those cases | 12:04 |
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| * bauzas waves late and lurks | 12:04 | |
| sdague | also, just truncating the hostname might lead to weird results. If truncation happens there should be a WARN message about it | 12:04 |
| sdague | that has definitely tripped us up at times on the mulitnode job | 12:05 |
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| alex_xu | #action alex_xu eliqiao check max length of hostname on linux and windows again | 12:05 |
| alex_xu | sdague: ok, that make sense | 12:06 |
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| alex_xu | anyway thanks sdague, will work on that continue | 12:07 |
| alex_xu | let's move on | 12:07 |
| alex_xu | gmann_ backport the server name fix | 12:07 |
| alex_xu | gmann: are you here? | 12:07 |
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| alex_xu | I didnt saw the patch, let me catch gmann or I help on work the patch if I have time | 12:07 |
| alex_xu | #action alex_xu catch gmann about backport patch or work on it if have enough time | 12:08 |
| alex_xu | oomichi will take a look at https://review.openstack.org/220791 more to find out more clean way | 12:08 |
| alex_xu | ok, the hard one | 12:08 |
| alex_xu | oomichi -1 on this https://review.openstack.org/220791 | 12:08 |
| alex_xu | oops, -2 | 12:08 |
| alex_xu | and oomichi not here :( | 12:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | so we have a -2 and not replacement patches, which is what I thought we agreed we would not do | 12:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | is there are better time to catch him, I should come on a few hours early tomorrow if he is around? | 12:09 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: maybe, I also can try in the morning, but he isn't on the irc all the time, or we can catch gmann to catch oomichi | 12:10 |
| alex_xu | ok, so all the people at here have agreement, let's move on | 12:11 |
| alex_xu | #topic API Bug | 12:11 |
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| alex_xu | emm....we already talk all the bugs...so anyone I missed? | 12:11 |
| alex_xu | oops, there is one | 12:11 |
| alex_xu | #topic Removal of v3 naming from source tree | 12:11 |
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| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bug/1462901,n,z | 12:12 |
| alex_xu | I think just need review, no more problem | 12:12 |
| alex_xu | so let's move on? | 12:12 |
| sdague | alex_xu: sounds good, I'll look at those reviews shortly | 12:12 |
| * alex_xu feel we will have short meeting today | 12:12 | |
| alex_xu | sdague: thanks | 12:12 |
| alex_xu | #topic Reviews | 12:12 |
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| sdague | well, I'd like to figure out exactly what we are going to do about https://review.openstack.org/220791 | 12:12 |
| alex_xu | Service Catalog standardization | 12:12 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy do you want to talk with oomichi before moving forward? or move forward and work with him later? | 12:13 |
| alex_xu | sdague: I can find out the irc log link for you, then you can know the oomichi's point | 12:13 |
| sdague | because when's the RC point | 12:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: I think we should go for both in parallel | 12:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: so I pushed out RC until thursday at this point | 12:13 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: ok, so alex_xu will colapse the 2 patches into 1 | 12:14 |
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| sdague | and we'll use the base patch which doesn't have the -2 on it and move it forward? | 12:14 |
| alex_xu | sdague: ok, no problem | 12:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | sdague: was thinking the same thing | 12:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | now, alex_xu if you can reach out to oomichi, that would be good, and I can try catch him while he is around as well | 12:15 |
| sdague | alex_xu: you good with that plan? | 12:15 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yea, will do | 12:15 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: ea, I'm good | 12:15 |
| alex_xu | s/ea/yea/ | 12:15 |
| sdague | ok, great | 12:15 |
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| alex_xu | so let's move on | 12:15 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181393/ | 12:15 |
| alex_xu | ^ I guess this show up in previous meeting...it isn't me adding the link | 12:16 |
| alex_xu | if no more talk about hat, just please review it | 12:16 |
| alex_xu | then let's ove on | 12:16 |
| alex_xu | s/ove/move/ | 12:16 |
| alex_xu | #topic API Documentation Improvement | 12:17 |
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| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226253 | 12:17 |
| alex_xu | thanks to johnthetubaguy ! | 12:17 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: yeh, seriously, thanks for that | 12:17 |
| alex_xu | do we want to track the todo? | 12:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | so took a quick look at what we had and added some boiler place | 12:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | now I am think we merge the TODOs | 12:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | then have follow on patches to fix them | 12:18 |
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| alex_xu | +1 | 12:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | totally open to alternative ideas mind, that just seems a simple way forward | 12:18 |
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| alex_xu | so please review it! | 12:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | now there is a bit of repetition between that and the complete reference, but I think we should probably just get links into the complete reference to point back to the concept guide. | 12:19 |
| sdague | johnthetubaguy: the todo model seems good to me | 12:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | is anyone looking at adding the missing stuff into this doc: http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-compute-v2.1.html | 12:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | alex_xu I think you made a good list in an etherpad as a starting point | 12:20 |
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| alex_xu | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-api-site/+bug/1488144 | 12:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1488144 in openstack-api-site "Collection of Compute v2.1 API doc bugs" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Atsushi SAKAI (sakaia) | 12:21 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: ^ doc team work on it | 12:21 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/api-site+branch:master+topic:bug/1488144,n,z | 12:21 |
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| alex_xu | not sure the progress, but as you said, we should help on review | 12:21 |
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| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: is it ok? | 12:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | hmm, interesting, I guess we should reach out to those folks | 12:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | does anyone have contact with them? | 12:23 |
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| alex_xu | emm...no, I think | 12:23 |
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| alex_xu | I can contact him | 12:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, so I can try reach out to them, via other folks, and see what I can do | 12:24 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: thanks | 12:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | the topic is a great start at least | 12:24 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: do you want an action | 12:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | yes please | 12:25 |
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| alex_xu | #action johnthetubaguy contact the doc team to see what we can help on missing stuff in the doc http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-compute-v2.1.html | 12:25 |
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| alex_xu | so let's move on | 12:26 |
| alex_xu | ? | 12:26 |
| alex_xu | #topic open | 12:27 |
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| alex_xu | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/cloudlet | 12:27 |
| alex_xu | who own this item? | 12:27 |
| sdague | that seems like it needs a spec for sure | 12:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | oh, I forget their IRC handle now | 12:27 |
| sdague | I'm not really sure what that is | 12:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, I have emailed them about creating a spec | 12:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | I have a feeling they got some conference talk approved in some track | 12:28 |
| alex_xu | me too, not veryclear what is | 12:28 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so it turns out, I think its about having VMs follow you around a cell network | 12:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | using something that sounds a bit like what you do with containers | 12:28 |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: not sure, it about import vm snapshot, then resume vm...and create snapshot again from the doc... | 12:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am currently a -2 on the spec, if its what I thought it was | 12:29 |
| sdague | yeh, so we should just push them back to writing a spec | 12:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | yes, please write a spec, is the key part | 12:29 |
| alex_xu | ok, if I saw the irc, will tell them | 12:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | I thought I added that on the whiteboard already, adding another comment | 12:30 |
| edleafe | at least a link to the cloudlet project | 12:30 |
| edleafe | so that we have an idea what it is | 12:30 |
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| alex_xu | ok, so let's move on | 12:31 |
| alex_xu | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/794730 | 12:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 794730 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "API doesn't specify what limit=0 means" [Wishlist,Confirmed] - Assigned to Zhenyu Zheng (zhengzhenyu) | 12:31 |
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| alex_xu | Zheny, are you around? | 12:31 |
| alex_xu | oops, sorry, Zhenyu | 12:31 |
| sdague | limit=0 seems like it should be ignored like it is now, forcing it to be an empty container seems silly | 12:32 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: maybe we should check other project behaviour first, and there better have api-wg guideline about pagination | 12:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | so there has been a lot of chatter about the images API | 12:32 |
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| alex_xu | and the image api is proxy api, so that should depend on glance's behaviour? | 12:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | my take is we proxy things from glance v1 right now, so glance v1 is owning the limiting of the results, mostly because it always has | 12:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, +1 I think | 12:33 |
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| sdague | yeh, and honestly, I think their behavior is wrong | 12:33 |
| sdague | because it's kind of pointless | 12:33 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/190743 | 12:34 |
| sdague | I don't know of what value that would be | 12:34 |
| sdague | limit=0 should actually be a 400 BadRequest honestly | 12:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, thats another issue | 12:34 |
| alex_xu | there is patch for paginiation guideline, but not finish yet | 12:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, it does seem invalid | 12:34 |
| alex_xu | better to means no limit? | 12:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | if you want to return none, its a HEAD request not a GET | 12:34 |
| edleafe | some like to read "limit=0" as "no limit" | 12:34 |
| edleafe | agree that that's wrong | 12:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 12:35 |
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| alex_xu | so we like 400? | 12:35 |
| sdague | it looks like everyone arguing for limit=0 to return an empty container want it to use list as count | 12:36 |
| jokke_ | fwiw I do agree that the limit=0 should be unlimited like we treat such in any config option as well | 12:36 |
| alex_xu | https://review.openstack.org/190743 looks like already begin to fight on limits=0 | 12:36 |
| alex_xu | jokke_: that sounds good point, consistent behaviour between configure file and api | 12:37 |
| edleafe | I can see the desire for a way of specifying "give me everything", but "limit=0" seems like it's not a good fit | 12:37 |
| sdague | edleafe: "everything" is typically a ddos | 12:38 |
| sdague | services have max_limit set in code for a reason | 12:38 |
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| edleafe | sdague: heh | 12:38 |
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| alex_xu | sdague: limits=0 should be the max_limit | 12:38 |
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| sdague | anyway, that seems like an API WG issue that needs to be pushed forward | 12:39 |
| edleafe | "give me the max" | 12:39 |
| alex_xu | yea | 12:39 |
| sdague | edleafe: don't specify limit then | 12:39 |
| alex_xu | so if you have opinion please continue the discussion on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/190743 | 12:39 |
| sdague | it's not a required parameter | 12:39 |
| edleafe | sdague: good point | 12:39 |
| edleafe | not specifying limit means "up to the max allowed". | 12:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | that seems the most sensible approach to me | 12:40 |
| edleafe | but I guess others want "give me everything, even if it's more than max allowed." | 12:40 |
| edleafe | agree that that's a ddos scenario | 12:41 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, that should not be an option | 12:41 |
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| alex_xu | anyway there is no result at here. so anything more want to talk about, or we close meeting early, back to coding? | 12:42 |
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| alex_xu | 3... | 12:42 |
| edleafe | <crickets> | 12:43 |
| alex_xu | 2.. | 12:43 |
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| alex_xu | 1. | 12:43 |
| alex_xu | so thanks all! | 12:43 |
| alex_xu | #endmeeting | 12:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 22 12:43:40 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 12:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2015/nova_api.2015-09-22-12.00.html | 12:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2015/nova_api.2015-09-22-12.00.txt | 12:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2015/nova_api.2015-09-22-12.00.log.html | 12:43 |
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| Abhishek | I have installation relatedd doubts | 12:44 |
| Abhishek | related* | 12:44 |
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| Qiming | #startmeeting senlin | 13:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 22 13:03:35 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Qiming. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'senlin' | 13:03 |
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| Qiming | morning/evening ... | 13:04 |
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| yanyan | hello | 13:04 |
| haiwei_ | hi | 13:04 |
| elynn | evening | 13:04 |
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| Qiming | feel free to add/modify meeting agenda | 13:04 |
| Qiming | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SenlinAgenda#Weekly_Senlin_.28Clustering.29_meeting | 13:04 |
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| Qiming | okay, let's get started | 13:06 |
| Qiming | #topic container clustering | 13:06 |
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| Qiming | just got an update from the SUR team | 13:07 |
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| Qiming | overall progress is good | 13:07 |
| Qiming | some interns has built a client for senlin to talk to k8s, and they are testing it | 13:07 |
| Qiming | some interns have tried creating k8s clusters by having magnum invoking senlin, using a heat profile | 13:08 |
| Qiming | they are still working on improving the yaml files used in this context | 13:09 |
| haiwei_ | this is what we want to show in the summit? | 13:09 |
| haiwei_ | for the demo | 13:09 |
| Qiming | some interns have tried collecting runtime metrics from docker using CAdvisor, triggering the scaling using alarms generated from these metrics | 13:09 |
| Qiming | yes, haiwei_, this is the work we want to show case | 13:10 |
| haiwei_ | the second one or the third one? | 13:11 |
| Qiming | the autoscaling work | 13:11 |
| haiwei_ | or all of these? | 13:11 |
| haiwei_ | ok | 13:11 |
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| Qiming | we are evaluating different options to glue the two layers of entities together, in the magnum context | 13:12 |
| yanyan | Qiming, you mean the scaling of both VMs and containers? | 13:12 |
| Qiming | there will be open questions, but I think that is okay | 13:12 |
| Qiming | yes | 13:12 |
| Qiming | currently, triggering VM scaling using container-layer metrics is working | 13:13 |
| Qiming | we are discussing whether the other path is worth to do | 13:13 |
| yanyan | ok | 13:13 |
| Qiming | we are also looking into load-balancing options | 13:13 |
| yanyan | about the lb part, I think they met some issues | 13:13 |
| Qiming | yanyan, please help with the team and see if the version conflicts problem is solved | 13:14 |
| yanyan | I guess the neutron lb version in their env is still v1 | 13:14 |
| yanyan | sure | 13:14 |
| Qiming | there seems to be some LB configuration problem | 13:14 |
| yanyan | so they mentioned that they have version problem | 13:14 |
| yanyan | ok | 13:14 |
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| Qiming | yes, need to engage at this stage | 13:14 |
| yanyan | will re their mail and discuss with them | 13:14 |
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| Qiming | thanks. | 13:15 |
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| Qiming | any questions/comments on this work? | 13:16 |
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| haiwei_ | is there a deadline for this? | 13:16 |
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| Qiming | we want to see the whole thing up and running by the end of this month | 13:17 |
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| Qiming | anyone interested in this can leave a comment here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/magnum-senlin | 13:17 |
| Qiming | #topic Trigger implementation | 13:18 |
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| yanyan | nice | 13:18 |
| elynn | cool | 13:18 |
| Qiming | so ... we decided a few weeks ago to provide an abstraction called 'Trigger' | 13:18 |
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| yanyan | yep | 13:19 |
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| Qiming | basically, it would be a wrapper of ceilometer/aodh alarms, monasca alarms, zaqar queues ... things that can trigger an action on senlin entities: clusters, nodes ... | 13:19 |
| Qiming | A user will decide what tools they want to use | 13:20 |
| Qiming | the basic CRUD logic is already committed | 13:20 |
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| Qiming | however, this work is blocked somehow by two things | 13:20 |
| Qiming | 1. ceilometer alarming service is offcially separated from ceilometer into aodh | 13:21 |
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| Qiming | since senlin is not talking to any xyz service using xyzclient, we are using openstacksdk | 13:21 |
| Qiming | so we need to add aodh support into openstacksdk first, then we can experiment with "ceilometer/aodh" alarms first | 13:22 |
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| Qiming | the problem is that openstacksdk is blocking any resource types at the moment | 13:22 |
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| Qiming | so ... we need a workaround, we will host these bits temporarily in senlin codebase and migrate them to openstacksdk later | 13:23 |
| Qiming | or else we will be blocked for a long time .. | 13:23 |
| Qiming | I'm working on that | 13:24 |
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| Qiming | questions? | 13:24 |
| yanyan | so the first step is support trigger based on aodh alarm | 13:25 |
| Qiming | yes | 13:25 |
| haiwei_ | aodh is using ceilometer-client, so it is almost the same to support ceilometer-client? | 13:25 |
| yanyan | ok, after the framework of trigger is done, we add more trigger tyep | 13:25 |
| yanyan | type | 13:25 |
| Qiming | I'm not sure about monasca's status, or the usability of zaqar so far | 13:25 |
| Qiming | haiwei_, if you using ceilometerclient, everything remains the same | 13:26 |
| Qiming | there will be an redirection from ceilometer to aodh concerning alarm operations | 13:26 |
| yanyan | zaqar is a little different I think, maybe we need a new handler type to support it | 13:26 |
| Qiming | yep, it is not longer a webhook | 13:27 |
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| Qiming | it will be totally about message queue | 13:27 |
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| yanyan | yes | 13:27 |
| Qiming | #topic heat resource type support | 13:27 |
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| haiwei_ | aodhclient== ceilometer-client? | 13:27 |
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| Qiming | haiwei_, aodhclient? | 13:28 |
| yanyan | hi, haiwei_ , I think there is just ceilometer client | 13:28 |
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| Qiming | don't know if there is such thing, we won't use it even there is a new client | 13:28 |
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| haiwei_ | ok, I need to learn adoh first | 13:29 |
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| Qiming | so ethan has kindly offered to take senlin back to heat | 13:29 |
| Qiming | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226180/ | 13:29 |
| haiwei_ | aodh | 13:29 |
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| elynn | yea, I'm working on this | 13:30 |
| elynn | still need to discuss how to implement it. | 13:30 |
| Qiming | we have quite a few things to work out | 13:30 |
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| elynn | I don't quite get Kanagaraj Manickam's point. | 13:30 |
| elynn | He said senlin is part of requirements.txt | 13:31 |
| elynn | But I don't see it. | 13:31 |
| Qiming | above all design considerations, we'd strive to maintain compatibility with heat ResourceGroup ... | 13:31 |
| Qiming | elynn, it is a typo | 13:31 |
| Qiming | senlin is not listed there yet | 13:31 |
| yanyan | in big tent, will it be? | 13:32 |
| Qiming | among the concepts (objects) senlin exposed, the top priority, in my view, is cluster and node | 13:32 |
| Qiming | it doesn't matter I think | 13:33 |
| yanyan | yea | 13:33 |
| elynn | Yes we need to compatible with heat RG, question is when. | 13:33 |
| Qiming | we need to put 'UNSUPPORTED' as support status once the code is in | 13:33 |
| elynn | yes, maybe cluster is enough for compatible with heat Rg | 13:33 |
| Qiming | elynn, from the very beginning | 13:33 |
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| Qiming | cluster is meant to be a superset in terms of features from RG | 13:34 |
| Qiming | if not, we need to improve cluster design/implementation | 13:34 |
| Qiming | however, we may don't need to model senlin profile in Heat | 13:35 |
| Qiming | from Heat's perspective, it is just an implementation detail | 13:35 |
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| Qiming | the big issue as I see it is about the 'update' operation | 13:36 |
| elynn | So the resources for senlin would be like OS::Senlin::Cluster OS::Senlin::Node OS::Senlin::ResourceGroup ? | 13:36 |
| Qiming | which is the only operation for you to change things in Heat | 13:36 |
| Qiming | no OS::Senlin::ResourceGroup | 13:36 |
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| elynn | so OS::Senlin::Cluster replace Heat RG resource? | 13:37 |
| Qiming | we can add an entry in the default environment file to map OS::Heat::ResourceGroup to OS::Senlin::Cluster | 13:37 |
| Qiming | even that mapping would be a mid-term work | 13:38 |
| elynn | ok, I got it. | 13:38 |
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| yanyan | so both properties and attrs of OS::Senlin::Cluster should be completely compatible with RSG | 13:38 |
| elynn | so what's the problem for stack-update? | 13:38 |
| Qiming | the near-term is to make OS::Senlin::Cluster work, cover all ResourceGroup features by invoking senlin APIs | 13:38 |
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| yanyan | or maybe superset of the one of RSG | 13:39 |
| Qiming | stack-update -> resource update | 13:39 |
| Qiming | resource update -> cluster ? | 13:39 |
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| Qiming | it could be cluster resize, cluster update | 13:39 |
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| elynn | and nested stack update | 13:39 |
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| Qiming | heat doesn't have to see the nested stacks | 13:40 |
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| Qiming | RG <=> cluster of heat stacks | 13:40 |
| Qiming | heat stacks here is already the nested stack | 13:41 |
| Qiming | and we implement it using profile | 13:41 |
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| elynn | en | 13:41 |
| Qiming | when template used for the inner stack changes, we change the profile | 13:41 |
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| Qiming | when template is not changed, we may still need to do resize operations | 13:41 |
| elynn | ok | 13:42 |
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| Qiming | we got to be very careful at every step | 13:42 |
| elynn | I've see apis in senlin for cluster resize, is it enough ? | 13:42 |
| Qiming | when doing this, we should think in Heat's philosophy, not the other way | 13:42 |
| Qiming | yep, I'm pretty sure it is a superset of RG's capability | 13:43 |
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| Qiming | elynn, we need to sit down and work out the details | 13:43 |
| elynn | yes... | 13:44 |
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| Qiming | yet another blocker is that we need to release senlinclient first | 13:44 |
| Qiming | make it into the global requirements so that other projects can invoke us | 13:45 |
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| Qiming | I'll ask around how to do this | 13:45 |
| yanyan | and I think the way invoking senlinclient is a little different from the client of other services ? | 13:45 |
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| Qiming | sadly I won't be avail 9am-13pm tomorrow | 13:46 |
| yanyan | 9am? | 13:46 |
| yanyan | not 9:30 | 13:46 |
| Qiming | but we can discuss this via email if f2f discussion is not possible | 13:46 |
| elynn | senlinclient now didn't provider api to call directly, isn't it? we can only use shell commands to call it . | 13:47 |
| Qiming | sigh, the meeting was rescheduled | 13:47 |
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| yanyan | ... | 13:47 |
| Qiming | 9-11, meet, 11-12, all-hands, 12-13 lunch meet | 13:47 |
| yanyan | elynn, yes, I think so. But we can build sdk session first and use it to creation senlinclient instance I think | 13:47 |
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| yanyan | right, there is an allhands tomorrow... | 13:48 |
| Qiming | we can work out some pseudo code first | 13:48 |
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| Qiming | #topic open discussions | 13:48 |
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| Qiming | 11 mins | 13:48 |
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| Qiming | then I have another meeting, no meat | 13:49 |
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| yanyan | did you have dinner? | 13:49 |
| Qiming | so other than the topics we touched so far | 13:49 |
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| Qiming | I'd encourage everyone to start signing up to mitaka work items | 13:50 |
| Qiming | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/senlin-mitaka-workitems | 13:50 |
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| Qiming | yanyan, I did, without being far from keyboard | 13:50 |
| yanyan | sigh... | 13:51 |
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| Qiming | anything else, before we release this channel? | 13:51 |
| elynn | oh... | 13:52 |
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| yanyan | no from me | 13:52 |
| haiwei_ | no | 13:52 |
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| elynn | I've sign my name on some item ;) | 13:52 |
| elynn | Don't know if anyone are working on zaqar or not... | 13:52 |
| Qiming | okay, thanks for joining, and your hard work, :) | 13:53 |
| Qiming | until next time | 13:53 |
| Qiming | #endmeeting | 13:53 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 22 13:53:19 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:53 |
| elynn | I think we need to build some BP to track this. | 13:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2015/senlin.2015-09-22-13.03.html | 13:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2015/senlin.2015-09-22-13.03.txt | 13:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2015/senlin.2015-09-22-13.03.log.html | 13:53 |
| Qiming | elynn, let's continue on senlin | 13:53 |
| flaper87 | elynn: what you mean with "you don't know if anyone is working on Zaqar" ? | 13:53 |
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| flaper87 | The project is quite active and the team would be happy to answer questions and provide feedback in #openstack-zaqar | 13:54 |
| elynn | flaper87: never mind, my network is broken, I thought I was in senlin meeting... | 13:54 |
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| Qiming | flaper87, \o/ | 13:54 |
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| Qiming | flaper87, the question is really about anyone is working on invoking zaqar from senlin, :) | 13:55 |
| flaper87 | Qiming: :) | 13:55 |
| flaper87 | Qiming: oh, ok! | 13:56 |
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| flaper87 | Qiming: It'd be awesome to have feedback from you guys | 13:56 |
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| Qiming | would that be you? flaper87 | 13:56 |
| Qiming | lol | 13:56 |
| flaper87 | What you're doing w/ Zaqar and how the team can help you :) | 13:56 |
| flaper87 | Qiming: anyone in #openstack-zaqar or openstack-dev ML | 13:56 |
| Qiming | flaper87, senlin is about building clusters of homogeneous objects ... think of it as an array data type for programming your cloud | 13:57 |
| Qiming | we want to trigger actions on the clusters through message queues | 13:57 |
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| mestery | Qiming flaper87: FYI, Neutron meeting starts in this channel in 2 minutes | 13:58 |
| mestery | Qiming flaper87: You folks may want to move to #openstack-zaqar :) | 13:58 |
| flaper87 | mestery: ++ | 13:58 |
| Qiming | mestery, thanks! | 13:58 |
| mestery | cool :) | 13:58 |
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| mestery | And speaking of it ... Neutron meeting! | 13:59 |
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| emagana | yeah.... I am awake!!! | 13:59 |
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| mestery | emagana: lol :) | 13:59 |
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| emagana | barely to be honest... with coffee in hand | 13:59 |
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| regXboi | moo | 13:59 |
| mestery | emagana: ;) | 13:59 |
| ihrachys | \o/ | 13:59 |
| vikram | hi | 13:59 |
| rossella_s | hi | 13:59 |
| akamyshnikova | hi | 13:59 |
| annp | hi | 13:59 |
| * regXboi looks for the party hats for mestery | 13:59 | |
| hoangcx | Hi | 13:59 |
| gongysh_ | helo | 14:00 |
| * mestery can sense the excitement from everyone | 14:00 | |
| emagana | mestery: last leading meeting from this season my friend!! Have fun! | 14:00 |
| johnbelamaric | hello | 14:00 |
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| mestery | emagana: My tyrannical reign is finally coming to an end! | 14:00 |
| mestery | :) | 14:00 |
| HenryG | o/ | 14:00 |
| mestery | #startmeeting networking | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 22 14:00:30 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mestery. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:00 | |
| hichihara | hi | 14:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 14:00 |
| amotoki | hi | 14:00 |
| johnsom | o/ | 14:00 |
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| mestery | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings Agenda | 14:00 |
| emagana | mestery: A new one is coming.. ;-) | 14:00 |
| xgerman | hi | 14:00 |
| Piet | Morning | 14:00 |
| dougwig | o/ | 14:00 |
| * mestery waits a minute to let the stragglers wander in | 14:00 | |
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| pc_m | hi | 14:01 |
| ihrachys | mestery: time to vote for another tyrant | 14:01 |
| haleyb | hi | 14:01 |
| mestery | ihrachys: But can anyone be as tyrranical as I was? ;) | 14:01 |
| russellb | hi | 14:01 |
| mestery | I feel like a dinosaur or something :) | 14:01 |
| scheuran | hi | 14:01 |
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| ihrachys | mestery: definitely! new ones are always worse then previous ones! | 14:01 |
| mestery | lol | 14:01 |
| mestery | #topic Announcements | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: networking)" | 14:01 | |
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| ajo | o/ :( | 14:01 |
| ajo | :) | 14:02 |
| mestery | #info We're going to cut liberty-rc1 tomorrow (likely) | 14:02 |
| russellb | yay | 14:02 |
| regXboi | mesteriasauras? | 14:02 |
| * ihrachys dances rumba | 14:02 | |
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| mestery | #info We're tracking the final bugs (4 at last count), more later in the meeting | 14:02 |
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| emagana | last minutes commits.... now!! | 14:02 |
| mestery | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty#OpenStack_Liberty_Release_Notes Liberty Release Notes | 14:02 |
| mestery | #info Please focus on making our release notes the best release notes out there! Thanks to those who have already jumped in there! | 14:02 |
| mestery | #info Please vote in the Neutron PTL election! | 14:02 |
| mestery | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTL_Elections_September_2015 | 14:03 |
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| mestery | We have 3 great candidates, I for one am exçited to see who our new overlord will be later this week! :) | 14:03 |
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| mestery | And a last announcement ... | 14:03 |
| mestery | #info THE PECAN WSGI BRANCH HAS BEEN FOLDED INTO MASTER! MOAR PECAN! | 14:03 |
| mestery | I had to go all caps | 14:03 |
| dougwig | Yay | 14:03 |
| mestery | Because it's finally in! :) | 14:03 |
| * regXboi is in shock | 14:03 | |
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| pc_m | nice! | 14:03 |
| ryanpetrello | \o/ | 14:03 |
| regXboi | I'm shocked, SHOCKED to see all caps :) | 14:04 |
| * russellb offers pecan pie in celebration | 14:04 | |
| mestery | #info Thanks to kevinbenton salv-orlando blogan and a cast of thousands :) | 14:04 |
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| ajo | :-) | 14:04 |
| mestery | russellb: lol | 14:04 |
| mestery | Now to make it stable in Mitaka! :) | 14:04 |
| mestery | Any other announcements for the team? | 14:04 |
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| ihrachys | me as an example of an ignorant packager could use some docs help on how we expect to run them, whether they need to conflict with current neutron-server service etc. do we have such docs? | 14:04 |
| Piet | Let me know when you want to talk about the survey | 14:05 |
| ihrachys | those new servers I mean | 14:05 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: no, not yet. | 14:05 |
| mestery | ihrachys: We do not yet | 14:05 |
| mestery | kevinbenton: We need a release note indicating it's experitmental | 14:05 |
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| mestery | etc. | 14:05 |
| gongysh_ | kevinbenton: pecan version is ready to create a network? | 14:05 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: they don't work quite right with service plugins that have their own extension controllers | 14:06 |
| kevinbenton | gongysh: Yeah, should work for that | 14:06 |
| ihrachys | kevinbenton: that's fine, ignorant packagers just want to package it and maybe set deps between services | 14:06 |
| gongysh_ | kevinbenton: congrat. | 14:06 |
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| emagana | ihrachys and kevinbenton we could add a chapter into the networking guide indicating that its experimental | 14:06 |
| mestery | Well, given it doesn't fully work yet, maybe we don't want to go that far in documenting it. What thinks you kevinbenton? | 14:06 |
| emagana | mestery: the sooner the better.. it will help to get more people testing it | 14:07 |
| mestery | Anyways, lets keep the agenda moving. | 14:07 |
| gongysh_ | where to find the doc, even devref to set it up? | 14:07 |
| mestery | emagana: True dat :) | 14:07 |
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| mestery | Since Piet has joined us ... | 14:07 |
| dougwig | Maybe add +q-pecan to devstack. | 14:07 |
| mestery | #topic OpenStack UX team survey update | 14:08 |
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| mestery | Piet: Floor is yours for an update! | 14:08 |
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| Piet | The OpenStack UX project has created a survey to understand some of the challenges associated with moving from Nova Network to Neutron. | 14:08 |
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| Piet | It was based on a series of interviews conducted by a User Researcher with HP | 14:08 |
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| Piet | Please, please, please complete the survey and distribute to anyone with experience with Networks in OpenStack. | 14:08 |
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| Piet | https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/osnetworking | 14:09 |
| mestery | Piet: Did you send a mail to the ML yet? | 14:09 |
| mestery | Ah, even better | 14:09 |
| mestery | #link https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/osnetworking | 14:09 |
| mestery | #info Please spread the survey far and wide | 14:09 |
| Piet | We're trying to get the sample to about 100 respondents | 14:09 |
| mestery | Thanks Piet! Any questions from anyone for Piet and team? | 14:09 |
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| mestery | Thank you Piet and team for working on this. Looking forward to the results. :) | 14:10 |
| mestery | OK, lets move along. | 14:10 |
| Piet | Feel free to reach-out to me on IRC if you have any questions | 14:10 |
| mestery | Thanks Piet! | 14:10 |
| Piet | I can also email you the formal invitiation | 14:10 |
| mestery | #topic liberty-rc1 | 14:10 |
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| mestery | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/liberty-rc1 | 14:10 |
| mestery | The last BP, which I expect to defer, is this one: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/lbaas-ref-octavia | 14:10 |
| mestery | dougwig: What says the LBaaS team on this? | 14:10 |
| mestery | Defered to Mitaka? | 14:10 |
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| xgerman | dougwig rudely stopped us with a -2 | 14:11 |
| mestery | lol | 14:11 |
| mestery | xgerman: Well, if he hadn't, I was gonna :) | 14:11 |
| mestery | ;) | 14:11 |
| xgerman | tyrant :-) | 14:11 |
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| mestery | rofl | 14:11 |
| dougwig | the code is ready, the gate jobs are running into issues because it's VMs inside VMs. johnsom has a patch up that might resolve tha. | 14:11 |
| dougwig | that | 14:11 |
| dougwig | we'll make the final call today, with you. | 14:11 |
| sc68cal | gonna run mestery out on a rail | 14:11 |
| mestery | dougwig: Ack, sounds good | 14:11 |
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| johnsom | I think the patches we merged yesterday will have resolved the gate issues. | 14:11 |
| xgerman | +1 | 14:11 |
| mestery | #info We'll make the final call on Octavia later today, 9-22 | 14:12 |
| mestery | johnsom: Lets make sure to stay in sync on IRC today | 14:12 |
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| mestery | And see what we come up with by end of day | 14:12 |
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| johnsom | Sounds good | 14:12 |
| mestery | Excellent! | 14:12 |
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| mestery | Now, on to the final four bugs on the dashboard | 14:12 |
| mestery | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1453350 | 14:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1453350 in neutron "race between neutron port create and nova" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 14:12 |
| mestery | kevinbenton: What's happening with this one? How is it coming along? And even better, do you see this as an RC blocker? | 14:12 |
| kevinbenton | I will have the latest patch up for that today and we can determine if it's too risky for release | 14:13 |
| mestery | kevinbenton: Ack | 14:13 |
| mestery | #info for 1453350, we'll make a call later in the day. | 14:13 |
| mestery | Next up | 14:14 |
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| mestery | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1497450 | 14:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1497450 in neutron "DNS lookup code in get_ports needs to be optimized" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Miguel Lavalle (minsel) | 14:14 |
| mestery | mlavalle: Same thing here? | 14:14 |
| mestery | Looks like we're expecting a patch later today | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | mestery: we will have a patchset today | 14:14 |
| mlavalle | I think it is looking good | 14:14 |
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| mestery | mlavalle: Thanks! regXboi make sure you review that patch when mlavalle posts it. | 14:15 |
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| kevinbenton | mlavalle: can you ping me with the review when it's ready? | 14:15 |
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| mestery | kevinbenton: thanks for your review as well :) | 14:15 |
| mestery | Next up | 14:15 |
| mlavalle | kevinbenton: will do | 14:15 |
| mestery | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1488996 | 14:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1488996 in neutron "QoS doesn't work when a mechanism driver which doesn't implement bind_port explicitly supports it" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Miguel Angel Ajo (mangelajo) | 14:15 |
| regXboi | mestery: ack - probably run it through the test scenario for an hour | 14:15 |
| ihrachys | that one is in gate | 14:15 |
| mestery | ihrachys ajo: This one looks good? | 14:15 |
| mestery | nice! | 14:15 |
| * mestery ^5s ihrachys | 14:15 | |
| mestery | Easy peasy ihrachys, just how I like it ;) | 14:15 |
| mestery | And the last one | 14:15 |
| mestery | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1495628 | 14:15 |
| ajo | mestery, it does, it's ihrachy's work, I just pushed a last patch | 14:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1495628 in neutron "In DHCP agent's enable_dhcp_helper, its good to call safe_configure_dhcp_for_network" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Sudhakar Gariganti (sudhakar-gariganti) | 14:15 |
| ajo | thanks mestery :) | 14:15 |
| mestery | ajo: Ack sir | 14:16 |
| mestery | This one went from a 1 line patch to something much more | 14:16 |
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| mestery | Anyways, we'll make the call on this one later today, doesn't seem to be a release blocker however | 14:17 |
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| mestery | OK, does anyone want to make a plea for anything else in Liberty at this point? | 14:17 |
| mestery | :) | 14:17 |
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| ajo | love and liberty ;D | 14:18 |
| mestery | ajo: Love and Liberty indeed :) | 14:18 |
| regXboi | how about egalite? fraternite? | 14:18 |
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| mestery | :) | 14:18 |
| regXboi | (sorry, can't find the proper glyphs on this keyboard) | 14:18 |
| mestery | #topic Mitaka Design Summit | 14:18 |
| mestery | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-mitaka-designsummit | 14:18 |
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| pc_m | mestery: Don't think endpoint groups will be reviewed in time, | 14:18 |
| mestery | pc_m: Ack :( | 14:18 |
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| mestery | So, we have a lot of items proposed on the etherpad which is great! | 14:18 |
| mestery | Our next PTL will be responsible for planning this thing out, but I encourage folks to keep submitting ideas | 14:19 |
| mestery | KEep in mind we only have 12 slots | 14:19 |
| mestery | So I expect the next PTL to focus on community items that really need face to face discussion | 14:19 |
| ajo | I suggested a cross neutron/nova one, but not sure if we have slots for cross-project stuff | 14:19 |
| mestery | That's about all I have for Mitaka | 14:19 |
| * regXboi feels mestery weilding clue brick :) | 14:19 | |
| mestery | ajo: There is a cross-project track, but we could use one of our slots. | 14:19 |
| regXboi | er wielding | 14:19 |
| mestery | ajo: Anything specific for there? | 14:19 |
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| mestery | ajo: I would think perhaps a "brick" like library for nova to use for neutron interactions? | 14:20 |
| ajo | mestery: the neutron/nova QoS integration | 14:20 |
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| mestery | That was discussed in Vancouver | 14:20 |
| mestery | ajo: Ah, that too :) | 14:20 |
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| ajo | we have scheduling bits to be accounted from the nova side | 14:20 |
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| ihrachys | ajo: haven't we discussed it on one of the qos meetings with nova folks? | 14:20 |
| ajo | (more than accounted, taken care of..) we already are discussing in meetings, but slow progress | 14:20 |
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| ihrachys | ah scheduler. ok. | 14:20 |
| ajo | ihrachys: yes, but still no resolution on that part, it seemed to need a broader discussion | 14:21 |
| ihrachys | I would suggest not to wait for summit though and start on ML | 14:21 |
| mestery | OK, so this seems like a good candidate ajo and ihrachys :) | 14:21 |
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| mestery | #topic Open Discussion | 14:22 |
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| mestery | Shortest. Meeting. Ever. | 14:22 |
| mestery | I just jinxed myself :) | 14:22 |
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| regXboi | mestery: yes you did - I can hear murphy laughing all the way to the time clock | 14:22 |
| ajo | mestery: (about the brick) yes we talked about a nova pluggable thing on the scheduler we could provide from neutron, but it seems that's far, and may be needing a short term solution until that's ready | 14:22 |
| ajo | regXboi :) | 14:22 |
| mestery | ajo: Ack sir, makes sense | 14:23 |
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| sc68cal | anything that touches nova-scheduler enters a warp in space time, where percieved time is slower than real time | 14:23 |
| ajo | sc68cal lol | 14:23 |
| xgerman | gantt? | 14:23 |
| mestery | rofl | 14:23 |
| sc68cal | ^ this | 14:23 |
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| * sc68cal got a huge physics refresher from regXboi at the QA sprint. his mind is blown still | 14:24 | |
| mestery | :) | 14:24 |
| ajo | they have low gravity | 14:24 |
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| emagana | mestery: ajo and myself are working on the QoS chapter. Thanks to ihrachys for the reviews but more eyes on it will not hurt! | 14:24 |
| regXboi | sc68cal: that was only a few years of physics ... | 14:24 |
| mestery | emagana: Excellent! | 14:24 |
| ihrachys | emagana: link! | 14:24 |
| emagana | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221990/ | 14:24 |
| ihrachys | no links == no eyes | 14:25 |
| rossella_s | :D | 14:25 |
| ajo | :) | 14:25 |
| emagana | ihrachys: how many eyes per times the link is posted :-) | 14:25 |
| mestery | cool | 14:25 |
| mestery | rofl | 14:25 |
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| mestery | OK, well, next week we'll have a new PTL running this meeting. Exciting! | 14:25 |
| * ihrachys smiles | 14:25 | |
| emagana | Goos luck to the candidates!!! | 14:25 |
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| jckasper | mestery: I added Horizon topic to bottom of On Demand Agenda late yesterday | 14:26 |
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| ajo | good luck!! :) | 14:26 |
| emagana | Goos = Good | 14:26 |
| * regXboi mutters *almost got it that time* | 14:26 | |
| mestery | jckasper: Well, that ruins my huge exit, but pleae go ahead :) | 14:26 |
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| emagana | LOL | 14:26 |
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| mestery | :D | 14:26 |
| emagana | doh | 14:26 |
| jckasper | Horizon updated the network topology diagram last week | 14:26 |
| jckasper | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/curvature-network-topology | 14:26 |
| mestery | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/horizon/+spec/curvature-network-topology | 14:26 |
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| jckasper | New diagram quite a bit diff than old design. some items lacking (in my opinion) | 14:27 |
| mestery | jckasper: You're looking for review, rights? | 14:27 |
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| jckasper | mestery: wanting to see if anyone else has concerns over new design | 14:28 |
| emagana | curvature things sounds familiar to me | 14:28 |
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| * mestery looks | 14:28 | |
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| fawadkhaliq | emagana: +1 | 14:28 |
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| dougwig | got a screenshot handy? | 14:28 |
| robcresswell | It was demo'd in a summit about 2 years ago. It's actually been merged into Horizon at this point, but would be great to hear feedback. | 14:28 |
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| amuller_ | screenshot: http://imgur.com/a/qddWB | 14:28 |
| ajo | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFTmHHCn2-g&feature=youtu.be | 14:29 |
| mestery | jckasper: So, we're moving to the curvature version instead of the normal one? | 14:29 |
| neiljerram | screenshot looks nice! | 14:29 |
| jckasper | mestery: already moved | 14:29 |
| amotoki | it is a replacement of the legacy one | 14:29 |
| mestery | jckasper: Yikes, so your concerns are somewhat valid. | 14:29 |
| xgerman | neiljerram +1 | 14:29 |
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| mestery | OK, well, it will be interesting! | 14:30 |
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| neiljerram | So what specificatlly is lacking? | 14:30 |
| mestery | Curvature itself is pretty cool from what I remember back in Portland, glad to see it got merged into Horizon! | 14:30 |
| jckasper | mestery: new layout does not show IP address or CIDRs unless you drill down | 14:30 |
| emagana | mestery: +1 | 14:30 |
| * regXboi will likely have comments later today - especially after testing the DNS patch :) | 14:30 | |
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| regXboi | since I'll be spinning 100 tenants in a cloud for that DNS patch, I'll see what I think of the net topo under scale :) | 14:31 |
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| robcresswell | Drop into #openstack-horizon if oyu have any concerns and we'll try to address them. | 14:31 |
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| robcresswell | you* | 14:31 |
| neiljerram | jckasper: if that's the only thing, sounds acceptable to me. | 14:31 |
| jckasper | flyover pop-ups seem to be missing from old layout. but that is minor | 14:31 |
| emagana | jckasper: is this enabled by default in horizon? | 14:31 |
| mestery | I'd like to see regXboi's scale testing as well | 14:31 |
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| xgerman | jckasper does it show load balancers? | 14:31 |
| jckasper | yes. it is enabled by default. | 14:31 |
| regXboi | mestery: I'll try and do a screen shot when I'm done | 14:31 |
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| jckasper | xgerman: not sure how they are represented | 14:32 |
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| jckasper | xgerman: would be a good thing to try out. | 14:32 |
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| xgerman | yep - along with Firewall | 14:33 |
| jckasper | regXboi: I'm also wondering how DVR will be displayed too | 14:33 |
| mestery | And VPN xgerman :) | 14:33 |
| regXboi | jckasper: that's not something I'm looking at with respect to the DNS patch, so I won't be able to say today | 14:33 |
| amotoki | johnsom: even you use DVR, it is one logical router | 14:33 |
| amotoki | jckasper: ^^ | 14:33 |
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| doug-fish | were these things (load balancer, vpn, firewall) represented in the previous network topology UI? | 14:33 |
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| robcresswell | Horizon core invasion :p | 14:34 |
| xgerman | I am always hoping for new features | 14:34 |
| mestery | lol | 14:34 |
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| doug-fish | I don't think they were, but wanted to double check | 14:34 |
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| dougwig | doug-fish:they were not | 14:34 |
| amotoki | doug-fish: no they were not. | 14:34 |
| jckasper | amotoki: but DVR typically can have multiple router interfaces. not sure how that is represented | 14:34 |
| doug-fish | ok cool | 14:34 |
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| amotoki | jckasper: i got you point. need to check the detail, but IIRC there is no difference from legacy ones. | 14:35 |
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| mestery | OK, thanks horizon folks for bringing this to our attention! | 14:36 |
| mestery | And with that, lets shut this thing down. :) | 14:36 |
| mestery | Keep focused on those remaining RC bugs | 14:36 |
| * dougwig waves | 14:37 | |
| mestery | And if new ones are found | 14:37 |
| mestery | Please let me know ASAP | 14:37 |
| mestery | I'll be on the hunt as well :) | 14:37 |
| mestery | Adieu! | 14:37 |
| mestery | #endmeeting | 14:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:37 | |
| * regXboi watches mestery ride off into the sunset | 14:37 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 22 14:37:15 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:37 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-09-22-14.00.html | 14:37 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-09-22-14.00.txt | 14:37 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-09-22-14.00.log.html | 14:37 |
| xgerman | bye | 14:37 |
| * mestery hops on his harley | 14:37 | |
| kevinbenton | O/ | 14:37 |
| hichihara | bye | 14:37 |
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| regXboi | "who was that masked stranger???" | 14:37 |
| mestery | rofl | 14:37 |
| mlavalle | mestery: congrats on leading your last irc meeting as PTL :-) | 14:37 |
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| mestery | mlavalle: :D | 14:37 |
| xgerman | we will miss you | 14:38 |
| gongysh_ | ajo: now the qos is just for egress traffic, right? | 14:38 |
| emagana | ciao ciao | 14:38 |
| neiljerram | o/ | 14:38 |
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| ajo | gongysh_, yes sorry | 14:38 |
| ajo | for this release, only VM egress | 14:38 |
| hoangcx | bye | 14:39 |
| ajo | already looking at ingress too | 14:39 |
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| ajo | and more flexible ways of configuring bw limiter on ports | 14:39 |
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| gongysh_ | ajo: how to guarantee the minimum bandwidth? | 14:39 |
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| ajo | gongysh_, with the qos min: primitives for qos policies | 14:40 |
| ajo | but, those can only be used for switch egress (VM ingress) | 14:41 |
| ajo | I'm investigating how to do it the other way around too | 14:41 |
| ajo | gongysh_: also, doing a non-best-effort guarantee needs nova-scheduler collaboration | 14:41 |
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| ajo | to avoid overcommiting a host/interface | 14:41 |
| gongysh_ | ajo: yes | 14:41 |
| ajo | and also HP shown a more elaborate way coordinating compute nodes | 14:41 |
| ajo | for non flow controlled protocols like UDP | 14:42 |
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| morgan | ajayaa, amakarov, ayoung, breton, browne, davechen, david8hu, dolphm, dstanek, ericksonsantos, geoffarnold, gyee, henrynash, hogepodge, htruta, jamielennox, joesavak, lbragstad, lhcheng, marekd, morganfainberg, nkinder, raildo, rharwood, rodrigods, roxanaghe, samueldmq, stevemar, tsymanczyk, topol, vivekd, wanghong, claudiub https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting | 17:59 |
| morgan | courtesy ping ^ | 17:59 |
| ayoung | Oyez Oyez | 17:59 |
| lbragstad | morgan: o/ | 17:59 |
| raildo | \o/ | 17:59 |
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| ayoung | morgan, this one, one more, and you can abdicate... | 17:59 |
| stevemar | o/ | 17:59 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 17:59 |
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| morgan | ayoung: this is the last one. | 17:59 |
| morgan | new PTL will be minted on thursday | 17:59 |
| morgan | ;) | 18:00 |
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| ayoung | I thought elections ran through the 3rd of OCtober? | 18:00 |
| morgan | TC | 18:00 |
| dolphm | \o/ | 18:00 |
| morgan | PTL is just until this thursday | 18:00 |
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| morgan | sooooo with that. | 18:00 |
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| morgan | #startmeeting keystone | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 22 18:00:38 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is morgan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:00 |
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| henrynash | sinks below waves | 18:00 |
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| morgan | #topic RC1 | 18:01 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "RC1 (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:01 | |
| morgan | Lets get this show going. | 18:01 |
| morgan | So... we are at RC1. | 18:01 |
| morgan | the patch that opens Mitaka development is in the gate | 18:01 |
| ayoung | 1 minunte dance party | 18:01 |
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| morgan | we should be ready for the next cycle to begin in ~20-50minutes | 18:02 |
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| dstanek | nice | 18:02 |
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| morgan | Please review open bugs and tag them with rc-potential if they really are RC blockers | 18:02 |
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| stevemar | \o\ /o/ \o\ /o/ --> dance party for ayoung | 18:02 |
| morgan | I also added the liberty-backport-potential tag | 18:02 |
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| morgan | so, feel free to use that as well | 18:02 |
| tsymanczyk | o/ | 18:02 |
| ayoung | Hop hop hooray | 18:02 |
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| stevemar | cool, so anything that pops up we should file a bug, tag it, fix it for master and backport it | 18:03 |
| morgan | #topic yes | 18:03 |
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| morgan | erm | 18:03 |
| morgan | #undo | 18:03 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x9cc2550> | 18:03 |
| morgan | yes | 18:03 |
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| morgan | keep your eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226356/ | 18:03 |
| morgan | once that is merged we are good to go on mitaka | 18:04 |
| ayoung | And with that, our focus shifts to the Mitaka release | 18:04 |
| morgan | #topic New PTL Next Week | 18:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "New PTL Next Week (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:04 | |
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| ayoung | If you have not yet votes, go and do so RIGHT NOW! | 18:04 |
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| morgan | I don't know who the next PTL will be, but I am confident that ayoung, dstanek, or stevemar will do a fantastic job | 18:04 |
| dolphm | just a general reminder: anyone can and should propose backports for stable/* branches after fixes merge to master. just want to mention this because there seems to be a general aversion to backporting things that shouldn't exist. | 18:04 |
| * stevemar thinks we should have a bug squash day or two - before the craziness of the summit sets in | 18:04 | |
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| morgan | Go vote if you have not voted | 18:04 |
| ayoung | stevemar, ++ | 18:05 |
| morgan | dolphm ++ | 18:05 |
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| morgan | Do Propose things to stable | 18:05 |
| morgan | there are a few of us who can merge stable fixes, but it's really hard if we are also the ones proposing | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | stevemar: ++ | 18:05 |
| dstanek | stevemar: you must have read my PTL proposal! | 18:05 |
| henrynash | if only we had a Crosby and a Stills,….then I’d run with ayoung! | 18:05 |
| stevemar | yes, its super easy to do, theres a button for it in the master code review | 18:05 |
| dolphm | morgan: ++ | 18:05 |
| ayoung | There is a Stills out there in Neutron land | 18:05 |
| morgan | so as of next week I will not be PTL for keystone | 18:05 |
| lbragstad | bknudson: didn't you want to do a test hackathon day? (did that ever happen?) | 18:06 |
| stevemar | dstanek: i did! i was thinking about it for a while now, we had a small one for osc a while back | 18:06 |
| morgan | I will be around but taking a breather as the next PTL steps up | 18:06 |
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| morgan | to whomever wins... enjoy the next 2 days before the deluge of PTL tasks cascades down on you | 18:06 |
| bknudson | lbragstad: I did, but I got too busy to organize it, and I figured we were focusing on bug fixes. | 18:06 |
| dolphm | morgan: lol ++ | 18:06 |
| morgan | annnd. | 18:06 |
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| morgan | #topic Open Discussion | 18:07 |
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| dstanek | stevemar: PTL or not i'd like to help organize some events like that | 18:07 |
| morgan | we can talk about things here *or* call the meeting 53 minutes early | 18:07 |
| ayoung | Get your thoughts together on how we want to organize the Keystone time at the Summit | 18:07 |
| dstanek | stevemar: i've enjoyed hackathon at my previous employer | 18:07 |
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| bknudson | we should hackathon every day | 18:07 |
| stevemar | bknudson: if only that were possible | 18:08 |
| ayoung | bknudson, that is called "Death March" | 18:08 |
| * morgan is all about giving 50+ minutes back to everyone as his last official meeting act while PTL | 18:08 | |
| morgan | going once. | 18:08 |
| morgan | going twice | 18:08 |
| stevemar | morgan: sure, dstanek and i can talk bug squash stuff in -keystone | 18:08 |
| ayoung | We should to a post-mortem | 18:08 |
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| morgan | lets go to -keystone and continue there. | 18:08 |
| ayoung | ++ | 18:08 |
| lbragstad | bknudson: stevemar should we take some time to organize another hackathon? | 18:08 |
| morgan | bug stuff and/or post-mortem | 18:08 |
| stevemar | wait wait | 18:08 |
| morgan | anyone who wants to join can. | 18:09 |
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| ayoung | what keys is this in! | 18:09 |
| morgan | stevemar ? | 18:09 |
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| stevemar | morgan: THANKS for everything!!!!!!!!!!! :) | 18:09 |
| gyee | speaking of backport, can somebody please give it a gentle pull? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/205595/ | 18:09 |
| henrynash | stevemar: ++ | 18:09 |
| morgan | to -keystone we go | 18:09 |
| lbragstad | stevemar: i know bknudson had a bunch of stuff he wanted to knock out wrt testing... | 18:09 |
| morgan | #endmeeting | 18:09 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 22 18:09:40 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:09 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2015/keystone.2015-09-22-18.00.html | 18:09 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2015/keystone.2015-09-22-18.00.txt | 18:09 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2015/keystone.2015-09-22-18.00.log.html | 18:09 |
| ayoung | gyee, will do | 18:09 |
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| morgan | this was #shortestmeetingever | 18:09 |
| morgan | everyone enjoy your 50 minutes extra | 18:10 |
| ayoung | gyee, actually, I don't have permissions to do that. morgan think it needs to be you, but it is correct | 18:10 |
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| * morgan waves to infra folks ( jeblair, fungi, anteaya, and so so many more ) I wont be holding up your meeting slot anymore and today... definitely not! :) | 18:11 | |
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| topol | 0/ | 18:12 |
| topol | o/ | 18:12 |
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| jeblair | morgan: nice mic drop :) | 18:12 |
| morgan | jeblair: ^_^ | 18:13 |
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| fungi | wow. that's a really short keystone meeting | 18:14 |
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| stevemar | topol: you are so late | 18:21 |
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| topol | I saw that... Detention for me again | 18:22 |
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| topol | stevemar, I don't feel tardy | 18:22 |
| stevemar | fungi: the benefit of hosting your last meeting as ptl when your project is already rc ready | 18:22 |
| stevemar | topol: we just move fast | 18:22 |
| fungi | stevemar: yep. gripping the edge of my seat for thursday's pronouncement | 18:23 |
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| clarkb | ohai | 19:00 |
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| * fungi stands around trying to look like he belongs here | 19:01 | |
| pleia2 | o/ | 19:01 |
| pabelanger | o/ | 19:01 |
| Clint | o/ | 19:01 |
| Zara | o/ | 19:01 |
| AJaeger | o/ | 19:01 |
| jasondotstar | o/ | 19:01 |
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| SotK | o/ | 19:01 |
| crinkle | o/ | 19:01 |
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| anteaya | fungi: do you go for hands in pockets for that look? | 19:01 |
| nibalizer | o/ | 19:01 |
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| jeblair | howdy infra folks | 19:01 |
| mmedvede | o/ | 19:01 |
| jasondotstar | greetings | 19:01 |
| SergeyLukjanov | p/ | 19:01 |
| ianw | o/ | 19:02 |
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| anteaya | hey SergeyLukjanov, nice to see you | 19:02 |
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| zaro | o/ | 19:02 |
| fungi | howdy doctor nick! | 19:02 |
| SergeyLukjanov | anteaya, hey :) | 19:02 |
| jeblair | #startmeeting infra | 19:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 22 19:02:27 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jeblair. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: infra)" | 19:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:02 |
| jeblair | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:02 |
| jeblair | #link previous meeting http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2015/infra.2015-09-15-19.02.html | 19:02 |
| jeblair | #topic Announcements | 19:02 |
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| jhesketh | o/ | 19:02 |
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| mmmpork | o/ | 19:03 |
| hogepodge | o/ | 19:03 |
| jeblair | #info fungi is the new PTL | 19:03 |
| anteaya | yay | 19:03 |
| jeblair | yay fungi! | 19:03 |
| mmmpork | whoohoo! | 19:03 |
| pleia2 | all hail fungi! | 19:03 |
| crinkle | \o/ | 19:03 |
| fungi | you're announcing it ahead of the election officials | 19:03 |
| pleia2 | and thank you for all your work, jeblair :) | 19:03 |
| fungi | but close enough ;) | 19:03 |
| anteaya | yes, thank you jeblair | 19:03 |
| jhesketh | congrats :-) | 19:03 |
| AJaeger | fungi: thanks for leading us - and thanks to jeblair as well! | 19:03 |
| nibalizer | fungi: congratulations | 19:03 |
| fungi | yes, thanks jeblair! we'll expect you to work on fun things now | 19:04 |
| pabelanger | fungi: congrats | 19:04 |
| nibalizer | yes thanks to jeblair as well | 19:04 |
| jeblair | fungi: right, assuming you don't find a way to late-disqualify yourself :) | 19:04 |
| SotK | fungi: congrats | 19:04 |
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| clarkb | now you have to plan a summit, get on it :P | 19:04 |
| pleia2 | haha | 19:04 |
| Zara | fungi is our new overlord! \o/ | 19:04 |
| fungi | i just planned the summit. you won't like it though | 19:04 |
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| pleia2 | sake | 19:04 |
| fungi | mmm | 19:04 |
| jasondotstar | congrats fungi!! \o/ | 19:04 |
| jeblair | fungi: i bet it's on a beach | 19:04 |
| anteaya | fungi: I'll like tokyo | 19:04 |
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| fungi | in seriousness, i'll take care of boring things like brainstorming our summit sessions soon | 19:05 |
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| fungi | so be on the lookout for e-mails asking for ideas | 19:05 |
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| jeblair | ++ | 19:06 |
| jeblair | and a new meeting chair next week :) | 19:06 |
| fungi | yeah, that | 19:07 |
| jeblair | but wait, there's more: | 19:07 |
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| anteaya | jeblair: you are just having too much fun | 19:07 |
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| jeblair | #info adding nibalizer to infra-core/root | 19:08 |
| jeblair | #info adding yolanda to infra-core/root | 19:08 |
| anteaya | congratulations | 19:08 |
| mmmpork | congrats to the new roots!!!!!!!!!! | 19:08 |
| pleia2 | congrats nibalizer and yolanda | 19:08 |
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| nibalizer | :) thanks | 19:08 |
| Zara | :) congrats! | 19:08 |
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| SotK | congrats! | 19:09 |
| zaro | cool, new cores to bug! | 19:09 |
| fungi | welcome! | 19:09 |
| jhesketh | nibalizer, pleia2: congrats :-) | 19:09 |
| jeblair | they know our sysadminy puppet stuff (is that the right term?) as well as anyone | 19:09 |
| pleia2 | your experience downstream will continue to be a massive benefit to us :) | 19:09 |
| AJaeger | Great.Welcome, nibalizer and yolanda! Will be good to have more European coverage. | 19:09 |
| jeblair | and have experience running a similar system | 19:09 |
| nibalizer | jeblair: as good a term as any | 19:09 |
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| fungi | (in related news, nibalizer moves to europe!) | 19:09 |
| anteaya | wooooo | 19:09 |
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| anteaya | good food there | 19:10 |
| fungi | (joking) | 19:10 |
| anteaya | and trains | 19:10 |
| pabelanger | /me claps | 19:10 |
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| fungi | but yes, thanks nibalizer and yolanda for agreeing to take on additional responsibilities there | 19:10 |
| jeblair | #action nibalizer propose change adding nibalizer to infra-root | 19:10 |
| jeblair | #action yolanda propose change adding yolanda to infra-root | 19:10 |
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| * nibalizer immediately breaks something | 19:11 | |
| anteaya | nibalizer: well done | 19:11 |
| pleia2 | as it should be | 19:11 |
| fungi | if only that were also an action item | 19:11 |
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| jhesketh | implied action | 19:11 |
| jhesketh | or rite of way | 19:11 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 19:11 |
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| fungi | when you're root, you're expected to fix whatever you break. fair warning ;) | 19:11 |
| jeblair | fungi: ++ | 19:11 |
| nibalizer | fungi: ++ | 19:12 |
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| jeblair | i'm announced out | 19:12 |
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| jeblair | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:12 |
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| jeblair | #action | 19:12 |
| jeblair | jeblair automate some sort of mass contact attempt for stackforge move | 19:12 |
| jeblair | #action jeblair automate some sort of mass contact attempt for stackforge move | 19:12 |
| jeblair | :( sorry | 19:12 |
| pleia2 | it's ok, you have time | 19:13 |
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| jhesketh | no need to apologise | 19:13 |
| fungi | heh | 19:13 |
| jeblair | #topic Specs approval: Translation check site spec (pleia2) | 19:13 |
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| jeblair | #link Translation check site spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184559/ | 19:13 |
| pleia2 | so this was discussed at the last summit during a translations session | 19:13 |
| pleia2 | I've worked through several revisions with them on this spec, and I think it's finally in a place to get rolling | 19:14 |
| fungi | yep, seemed like a neat idea | 19:14 |
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| fungi | still does | 19:14 |
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| jeblair | cool, anyone think it needs more time? | 19:15 |
| fungi | pleia2: is the idea to continuously deploy devstack? any ideas on how to deal with the times when devstack is broken? | 19:15 |
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| clarkb | I am curious why we need to run cirros instances | 19:15 |
| pleia2 | fungi: likely some kind a daily refresh rather than CD, I think on broken nights during our periodic refresh that day it's just broken | 19:16 |
| anteaya | pleia2: what is the assignee's irc nick? | 19:16 |
| clarkb | would it be better to use the fake nova backend? I Thought that was the original plan | 19:16 |
| fungi | pleia2: wfm | 19:16 |
| pleia2 | clarkb: that's a good point, I think I missed that as a holdover from a previous spec version where they actually wanted to launch them | 19:16 |
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| fungi | also, seems like some of us (myself included) should have found time to review it and asked our questions there | 19:16 |
| pleia2 | we only agreed to noop | 19:17 |
| clarkb | yes we probably should have | 19:17 |
| pleia2 | well, we can review and revisit next week if we want | 19:17 |
| clarkb | but better late than never I hope | 19:17 |
| fungi | but also those are probably minor details which could be worked out in implementation if nobody objects | 19:17 |
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| clarkb | sure | 19:17 |
| anteaya | I have no objection to not knowing the assignee's irc nick | 19:17 |
| clarkb | the general plan is good to me | 19:17 |
| anteaya | just makes them easier to recognize | 19:17 |
| clarkb | looks like fake is used in some places so its just internal doc inconsistency that can be ironed out | 19:18 |
| jeblair | clarkb: where is cirros? | 19:18 |
| jeblair | clarkb: yeah, i think we're seeing the same thing | 19:18 |
| pleia2 | anteaya: DeeJay1, but I usually interact with him in person (at summits) and via email because time zones | 19:18 |
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| clarkb | jeblair: under Servers | 19:18 |
| clarkb | its typoed to cirrus | 19:18 |
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| jeblair | clarkb: ah. | 19:19 |
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| fungi | i totally don't expect the spec author to have enough of a crystal ball to figure out in advance how we're going to refresh devstack deployments reliably. it will likely take at least a couple tries to get right | 19:19 |
| anteaya | pleia2: ah okay thanks | 19:19 |
| clarkb | fungi: agreed | 19:19 |
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| jeblair | yeah, i think 'fake' outnumbers cirros, so maybe it's just a holdover. probably we can send it to vote and then clarify in a followup. | 19:19 |
| clarkb | jeblair: wfm | 19:20 |
| * nibalizer nods | 19:20 | |
| tchaypo | Thumbsup | 19:20 |
| jeblair | (if it specifically said cirros everywhere, i'd think it was enough of a misunderstanding to make it worth clarifying in advance) | 19:20 |
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| jeblair | #info Translation check site spec voting open until 2015-09-24 19:00 UTC | 19:20 |
| pleia2 | if you look at past revisions, we had a lot of discussion about the fake point | 19:20 |
| pleia2 | mostly them saying "we need" and me saying "nope" | 19:20 |
| pleia2 | :) | 19:20 |
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| jeblair | pleia2: ++ | 19:21 |
| anteaya | pleia2: nice work | 19:21 |
| jeblair | pleia2: and thanks! | 19:21 |
| jeblair | #topic Schedule Project Renames | 19:21 |
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| jeblair | aside from my lack of progress, anything else we need to discuss re stackforge/oct 17? | 19:21 |
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| fungi | we're still on track for "the big rename" afaik | 19:21 |
| anteaya | jeblair: you are working on communication | 19:22 |
| anteaya | is anyone working on automating the workflow? | 19:22 |
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| jeblair | anteaya: ah yes, thanks! | 19:22 |
| jeblair | anteaya: i threatened to ask for volunteers for that this week | 19:22 |
| fungi | there was one recent thread on the -dev ml about "incubating in stackforge" which i mostly just pointed back to the announcement | 19:22 |
| anteaya | jeblair: oh good | 19:22 |
| jasondotstar | anteaya: I'm looking at the rename stuff | 19:22 |
| anteaya | jasondotstar: any status? | 19:22 |
| jasondotstar | no progress on it in the last couple days :-( | 19:22 |
| anteaya | well see I've looked at mordred's code before too | 19:23 |
| jasondotstar | attempting to make progress on puppetizing zaqar | 19:23 |
| fungi | jasondotstar: anything we should be doing to help? blocked on input? | 19:23 |
| anteaya | it never gave me an end result | 19:23 |
| mordred | oh! timezone fail | 19:23 |
| mordred | o/ | 19:23 |
| anteaya | jasondotstar: no idea how that relates to the conversation | 19:23 |
| jasondotstar | it doesn't. just mentioning my bandwidth issues | 19:23 |
| jeblair | specifically, i think we need a script that will generate the gerrit change to modify all the necessary files in project config. that's mostly a read/write yaml config files change, or possibly just 'string substitution in files' change. | 19:23 |
| jeblair | jasondotstar: is that on your radar, or are you looking at the ansible component? | 19:24 |
| jasondotstar | we've captures some conversations about how go about it on an etherpad | 19:24 |
| AJaeger | some of the files we need to touch are sorted alphabetically, so we need to resort them. | 19:24 |
| jasondotstar | jeblair: yes, it is on my radar | 19:24 |
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| jeblair | jasondotstar: cool, have an etherpad link? | 19:24 |
| fungi | now that we don't embed a separate github-org parameter in jenkins jobs, a straight up stream edit will likely suffice | 19:24 |
| jeblair | AJaeger: ah good point, not simple string substitution. | 19:24 |
| jeblair | for some of them at least | 19:24 |
| fungi | stream edit followed by normalization script | 19:25 |
| jeblair | fungi: ah right, we have that part scripted | 19:25 |
| jasondotstar | yep: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/project-renames-Septemeber-2015 | 19:25 |
| jeblair | okay, so this shouldn't be too hard | 19:25 |
| fungi | for most of those alpha order things we have the scripts already written to do the ordering since they get run in our check jobs at least | 19:25 |
| jasondotstar | jeblair: nope | 19:25 |
| jasondotstar | jeblair: it shouldn't. | 19:25 |
| jeblair | jasondotstar: that looks like the steps we used for the last rename | 19:26 |
| jasondotstar | there's another link too, sry | 19:26 |
| fungi | oh, also some git mv (acl files changing directories?) | 19:26 |
| fungi | so, yes, there are likely several steps to the transformation regardless | 19:26 |
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| * jasondotstar digs in his notes... | 19:26 | |
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| asselin | o/ | 19:28 |
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| jasondotstar | hmmm... mordred and I had a brief discussion here: http://paste.openstack.org/show/sv12yQ7uwhitRVX0INkV/ | 19:29 |
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| fungi | #link http://paste.openstack.org/show/sv12yQ7uwhitRVX0INkV/ | 19:29 |
| yolanda | o/ | 19:29 |
| jasondotstar | perhaps we need to gather the input from all sources and execute accordingly. | 19:30 |
| jeblair | (that paste is not immediately loading for me) | 19:30 |
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| anteaya | it the bots file for paste active yet? | 19:30 |
| fungi | yeah, it finally loaded for me. looking at paste.o.o to see why it's struggling again | 19:30 |
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| jasondotstar | fungi: it loaded for me once. now it's bombing. | 19:31 |
| anteaya | ah not yet: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226091/ | 19:31 |
| jasondotstar | and, it's back. | 19:31 |
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| jasondotstar | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 19:32 |
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| jeblair | jasondotstar: got it; that seems to be mostly about the ansible stuff, which maps to steps 5-8, 12, and 16 on the september etherpad | 19:32 |
| jeblair | jasondotstar: the project-config script would generate the change needed in steps 1 and 14 | 19:33 |
| fungi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/project-renames-Septemeber-2015 | 19:33 |
| jasondotstar | jeblair: correct. I failed to mention that we were talking just about the ansiblizing actions | 19:33 |
| jeblair | jasondotstar: (which should be similar to all those changes listed at the top of the etherpad) | 19:33 |
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| jeblair | jasondotstar: okay, but you're on the project-config change too, right? that's great if you are, but i don't want to overload you and we can find another victim if you're too pressed for time. | 19:34 |
| jasondotstar | let's get an extra set of hands for that part if we can | 19:34 |
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| jasondotstar | that way the other non-related item *cough* zaqar *cough* I can still continue making headway on | 19:35 |
| fungi | i'd say i'll do that part, but i also just recently volunteered for something else with a minimum 6-month commitment so would rather wait and see if there are any other takers | 19:36 |
| jeblair | mmmpork: ? | 19:36 |
| jeblair | Clint: ? | 19:36 |
| * jeblair looks for people who raised their hands at the beginning of the meeting :) | 19:36 | |
| Clint | jeblair: just s/stackforge/openstack/ and sort? | 19:36 |
| fungi | Clint: and some git mv | 19:36 |
| mmmpork | jeblair: i messaged jasondotstar privately | 19:36 |
| Clint | yeah, sure | 19:36 |
| fungi | and then others will review and poke holes in the methodology used. lather, rinse, repeat | 19:37 |
| jasondotstar | +1 | 19:37 |
| mmmpork | i don't have a lot of experience with ansible but if there are smaller tasks i can take on that would be helpful then i'm happy to | 19:37 |
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| fungi | the project config change will be, like zero ansible | 19:38 |
| clarkb | just string manipulation (please don't write it in perl) | 19:38 |
| clarkb | :P | 19:38 |
| clarkb | or I suppose yaml data structures can be treated as such too | 19:38 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 19:38 |
| mmmpork | clarkb: why not :D | 19:39 |
| mmmpork | hahaah | 19:39 |
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| Clint | because he wants haskell and only haskell | 19:39 |
| mmmpork | oh right, i can get on board with that | 19:39 |
| fungi | the trick is that we have a growing wikified list of repos some of which need renaming and some of which need retiring | 19:39 |
| clarkb | well mostly because then next time we need to do this someone else will have to rewrite it | 19:39 |
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| mmmpork | clarkb: i know, i kid ;D | 19:39 |
| clarkb | (please no next time too) | 19:39 |
| anteaya | clarkb: ah utopia | 19:40 |
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| fungi | though i suppose we could also rename the ones we're retiring, i don't know if that matters as much since they're being retired anyway | 19:40 |
| anteaya | was that not covered in the resolution? | 19:40 |
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| anteaya | ah it isn't | 19:41 |
| jeblair | okay, it's a close race, but i think Clint wins... we'll put him in charge of the script effort; mmmpork why don't you work with Clint and contribute or take over the effort, whatever works for the two of you :) | 19:41 |
| jeblair | #action Clint write script to prepare project-config change for migration | 19:41 |
| mmmpork | yes! i will happily serve as minion | 19:41 |
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| * Clint chuckles. | 19:42 | |
| jeblair | Clint, mmmpork, jasondotstar: thanks! | 19:42 |
| anteaya | fungi: just that the stackforge/ name shall henceforth not exist | 19:42 |
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| fungi | anteaya: emphasis on the "henceforth" because it's an awesome word | 19:42 |
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| jeblair | anteaya: yeah, my understanding is retired projects just become read-only in stackforge | 19:43 |
| anteaya | fungi: I look for an opportunity to squeeze it in whereever I can | 19:43 |
| * jasondotstar never gets to use the word henceforth in a sentence. Has a sad. | 19:43 | |
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| anteaya | jeblair: okay then, and you wrote the resolution, so wfm | 19:43 |
| jeblair | (otherwise it feels a bit revisionist) | 19:43 |
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| jeblair | #topic Priority Efforts (Swift Logs) | 19:44 |
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| jeblair | we have completely failed to review this change | 19:44 |
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| jeblair | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214207/ | 19:44 |
| jhesketh | yep, so nothing further from me | 19:44 |
| jhesketh | eyes would be appreciated | 19:44 |
| jeblair | #action everyone review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214207/ | 19:44 |
| anteaya | ha ha ha | 19:45 |
| jeblair | #topic Priority Efforts (Migration to Zanata) | 19:45 |
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| jeblair | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225945/ | 19:45 |
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| jeblair | this is an easy one :) | 19:45 |
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| pleia2 | this depends on a doc change that needs to land, but that's the last piece! | 19:45 |
| jhesketh | heh, excellent | 19:45 |
| AJaeger | yeah, we're in the cleanup and fix surprises phase ;) | 19:46 |
| pleia2 | we're still doing fiddly bits with scripts to work on perfection, but no need to hold up the spec | 19:46 |
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| pleia2 | AJaeger: hah, yeah | 19:46 |
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| jeblair | cool! ++ | 19:46 |
| anteaya | well done everyone | 19:46 |
| fungi | what was the deal with the pot file uploads for the ibm branch in zanata ending up getting imported into gerrit changes? is there a bug we need to handle in our scripts there? | 19:46 |
| anteaya | a long time to the finish line | 19:46 |
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| clarkb | pleia2: ya I don't think the version support needs to go in the specas that was sort of last minute hey wewant this | 19:46 |
| pleia2 | fungi: fix landed this morning | 19:46 |
| AJaeger | fungi: fixed already ;) | 19:47 |
| fungi | oh, neat | 19:47 |
| pleia2 | fungi: unfortunate zanata default for us :\ | 19:47 |
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| AJaeger | fungi: See http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2015-September/001437.html | 19:47 |
| * fungi turns his etch-a-sketch over and shakes vigorously | 19:47 | |
| * AJaeger is still not sure what is the proper solution. | 19:47 | |
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| AJaeger | Copying of translations sounds like a nice feature - but it broke the esoteric use case we whad with IBM imports | 19:47 |
| * pleia2 nods | 19:47 | |
| clarkb | its a semi fix though | 19:48 |
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| clarkb | anyone else can push docs to zanata and trigger it | 19:48 |
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| clarkb | Daisy said she would talk to Zanata about making it a bit more configurable so we can avoid it in these cases | 19:49 |
| anteaya | AJaeger: nicely organized email | 19:49 |
| jeblair | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2015-September/001437.html | 19:49 |
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| jeblair | i guess we're waiting on feedback then | 19:51 |
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| pleia2 | yeah, it's night time for most of our translations friends | 19:51 |
| jeblair | ok | 19:52 |
| jeblair | #topic Third-party OSes support in devstack-gate (eantyshev) | 19:52 |
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| pleia2 | I'm out of the office for a holiday tomorrow, but others can chime in | 19:52 |
| anteaya | was this from last week? | 19:52 |
| ianw | i had a look at this review, it's fine | 19:52 |
| * anteaya can't remember | 19:52 | |
| fungi | link? | 19:52 |
| clarkb | ya what review? | 19:52 |
| clarkb | eantyshev2: ^ | 19:52 |
| jeblair | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/073380.html | 19:52 |
| ianw | but i also think we can make it a bit easier -> https://review.openstack.org/224989 | 19:53 |
| fungi | (or just the review number even) | 19:53 |
| jeblair | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215029/ | 19:53 |
| eantyshev2 | Hi! here is the review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215029/ | 19:53 |
| anteaya | eantyshev2: wants infra to support an os he uses for his third party ci | 19:53 |
| anteaya | eantyshev2: here you are | 19:53 |
| jeblair | ianw: (you do have a -1 on 029) | 19:53 |
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| eantyshev2 | anteaya, not exactly | 19:53 |
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| anteaya | eantyshev2: do share then, I didn't think you were here | 19:53 |
| eantyshev2 | just want possibility for devstack-gate to run on OSes which it cannot recognize | 19:54 |
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| tchaypo | I’d phrase it as “we want the possibility to explicitly tell devstack-gate which OS it should believe it’s on" | 19:54 |
| tchaypo | is that accurate? | 19:54 |
| anteaya | eantyshev2: can expand on your motivation for wanting this? | 19:54 |
| fungi | we're generally not in favor of cross-platforming just for the sake of it, since if we won't test support for a particular platform regularly it will rapidly bitrot and break | 19:55 |
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| ianw | i don't think we need to argue over this too much | 19:55 |
| anteaya | ianw: I don't think we are arguing | 19:55 |
| fungi | by we i mean i, and by extension the opinions i've seen from others | 19:55 |
| anteaya | I think most of infra don't know why eantyshev2 wants this | 19:55 |
| ianw | see my comments, i think my version covers centos, fedora, and the extra distros | 19:55 |
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| anteaya | jhesketh: thanks for being here! | 19:56 |
| jeblair | fungi: i agree, and devstack-gate is very complicated. however, it sounds like maybe this can be accomplished without any real special casing or extra complexity.... | 19:56 |
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| fungi | if it's a good generalization that seems fine, but i don't think we can honestly claim to have support for platforms we don't test | 19:56 |
| ianw | if we require more extensive branching in the future, we can cross that bridge, but we don't need to optimize for that | 19:56 |
| eantyshev2 | ianw, you solution would be great for me if it is accepted here | 19:56 |
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| ianw | ok, so please just some eyes on | 19:57 |
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| ianw | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224989/ | 19:57 |
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| ianw | it will help out 3rd party users | 19:58 |
| fungi | 224989 is, indeed a bunch of comment and replacing a couple lines | 19:58 |
| anteaya | how? | 19:58 |
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| anteaya | are one of you willing to clearly state the problem this is solving? | 19:58 |
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| ianw | anteaya: 3rd party testing on rhel-derived distros | 19:58 |
| Clint | anteaya: it's changing a whitelist of [fedora,centos] to "does this thing have working rpm" | 19:59 |
| ianw | cloudos, orcalelinux, etc | 19:59 |
| anteaya | which affect whom? | 19:59 |
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| mordred | it's like moving from imake to autoconf, tbh | 19:59 |
| ianw | 3rd parties who are trying to test on rhel derived distros :) | 19:59 |
| anteaya | so far the only third party operator affected by this is eantyshev2 | 19:59 |
| mordred | test the capability, don't trust a declared list of things | 19:59 |
| fungi | well, does this think have working rpm with a /etc/*-release file managed in an rpm | 19:59 |
| Clint | yes | 19:59 |
| fungi | which helps weed out things like debian with the rpm package installed | 19:59 |
| Clint | unless you've done something crazy | 19:59 |
| clarkb | (like google did) | 20:00 |
| * fungi will reserve judgement on what crazy is | 20:00 | |
| jeblair | that's time | 20:00 |
| anteaya | thank you | 20:00 |
| eantyshev2 | anteaya: there are many cases, when third-party CI maintainers cannot use devstack-gate as-is | 20:00 |
| jeblair | thanks everyone, sorry to the folks whose topics we didn't get to | 20:00 |
| jeblair | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:00 | |
| tchaypo | I don’t think we need to claim to have support for other platforms; if we do something like 215029 but change the variable name to be something like “EXPERIMENTAL_…” or “UNSUPPORTED_…” that should make it clear that we’re not the platforms you can poke with this aren’t supported | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 22 20:00:27 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2015/infra.2015-09-22-19.02.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2015/infra.2015-09-22-19.02.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2015/infra.2015-09-22-19.02.log.html | 20:00 |
| Clint | -> #-infra | 20:00 |
| anteaya | eantyshev2: you are the only one I have heard from | 20:00 |
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| anteaya | eantyshev2: will continue in the -infra channel | 20:00 |
| * ttx multitasks with RC1 creation | 20:00 | |
| ttx | Anyone here for the TC meeting ? | 20:00 |
| sdague | o/ | 20:00 |
| russellb | hi | 20:01 |
| jeblair | ttx: o/ | 20:01 |
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| mugsie_cell | o/ | 20:01 |
| dougwig | o/ | 20:01 |
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| flaper87 | o/ | 20:01 |
| mordred | o/ | 20:01 |
| * Rockyg as usual, too | 20:01 | |
| ttx | jgriffith, annegentle, lifeless, dtroyer, markmcclain, jaypipes, dhellmann: around ? | 20:01 |
| lifeless | hai | 20:01 |
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| jgriffith | hola | 20:01 |
| dhellmann | o/ | 20:01 |
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| ttx | #startmeeting tc | 20:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 22 20:01:44 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ttx. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tc' | 20:01 |
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| ttx | Agenda for this Technical committee meeting lives at: | 20:01 |
| ttx | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/TechnicalCommittee | 20:01 |
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| ttx | Let's start easy | 20:02 |
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| ttx | #topic Cross-project spec final approval: Return request ID to caller | 20:02 |
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| ttx | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156508/ | 20:02 |
| ttx | This was discussed at multiple cross-project meetings, lastly last week | 20:02 |
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| ttx | It apparently has consensus now and needs our final approval on it | 20:02 |
| dtroyer | o/ | 20:02 |
| ttx | Any objection to final approval on this one ? | 20:02 |
| * flaper87 is good with it | 20:03 | |
| lifeless | +1 | 20:03 |
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| lifeless | I stopped tracking it once it got into fine tuning territory | 20:03 |
| jgriffith | I don't really have any objection... but one thing I'm not qutie sure on | 20:03 |
| redrobot | o/ | 20:03 |
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| jgriffith | well... never mind | 20:03 |
| jaypipes | o/ | 20:03 |
| jgriffith | I get it | 20:03 |
| sdague | conceptually it's good, some of the details will probably fall out when trying to do the actual work, as the apiclient bits in oslo are kind of crufty | 20:03 |
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| sdague | I left that as a comment in the review | 20:04 |
| ttx | sdague: yeah, I figured that much | 20:04 |
| ttx | ok, approving then | 20:04 |
| dims | sdague: i want to nuke oslo-incubator in M :) | 20:04 |
| sdague | dims: yeh, also that :) | 20:04 |
| sdague | but the concept is good | 20:04 |
| Rockyg | dims, yay! | 20:04 |
| sdague | they should move ahead on it | 20:04 |
| flaper87 | dims: +1 | 20:04 |
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| ttx | work on that was started on February 17, so nice persistence from Abhishek | 20:04 |
| ttx | approved | 20:05 |
| annegentle | nice | 20:05 |
| * annegentle highfives Abhishek | 20:05 | |
| ttx | now for more fun | 20:05 |
| ttx | #topic Handling project teams with no candidate PTLs | 20:05 |
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| ttx | So... we have a number of teams with no PTL candidates in the official timeframe | 20:05 |
| * sergmelikyan sighs | 20:05 | |
| ttx | Thankfully we have a defined way to address that: | 20:05 |
| annegentle | it's okay sergmelikyan :) | 20:05 |
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| ttx | #link http://governance.openstack.org/resolutions/20141128-elections-process-for-leaderless-programs.html | 20:05 |
| ttx | Let's consider them one by one, starting with simpler ones | 20:05 |
| ttx | * Security | 20:06 |
| ttx | The liberty PTL (Robert Clark) pushed his candidacy after the deadline, no other self-nomination | 20:06 |
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| ttx | Any other suggestion ? | 20:06 |
| lifeless | take him | 20:06 |
| jgriffith | #agreed | 20:06 |
| dhellmann | yeah, this seems like an easy one | 20:06 |
| sdague | #agreed | 20:06 |
| jeblair | ++ | 20:06 |
| dtroyer | +1 | 20:06 |
| flaper87 | I think this sounds like an easy call | 20:06 |
| ttx | #agreed Robert Clark nominated PTL for the Security Team in Mitaka | 20:06 |
| ttx | * Murano | 20:06 |
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| ttx | The liberty PTL (Serg Melikyan) pushed his candidacy after the deadline, no other self-nomination | 20:06 |
| ttx | Any other suggestion ? | 20:06 |
| dhellmann | ditto | 20:07 |
| sdague | +1 | 20:07 |
| flaper87 | ditto | 20:07 |
| jgriffith | Nope... take sergmelikyan | 20:07 |
| ttx | #agreed Serg Melikyan nominated PTL for the Murano Team in Mitaka | 20:07 |
| dtroyer | +1 | 20:07 |
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| sergmelikyan | thank you! | 20:07 |
| ttx | * Barbican | 20:07 |
| ttx | The liberty PTL (Douglas Mendizabal) confirmed he missed the deadline. Couldn't find any other self-nomination | 20:07 |
| ttx | he is redrobot on irc | 20:07 |
| ttx | Any other suggestion ? | 20:07 |
| mordred | redrobot: you wanna be PTL? | 20:07 |
| lifeless | +1 | 20:07 |
| dhellmann | ditto | 20:07 |
| lifeless | mordred: self nomination implies that, no? | 20:07 |
| redrobot | mordred indeed. my calendar skills were not up to par this election | 20:08 |
| dtroyer | +1 | 20:08 |
| jgriffith | redrobot: yeah, do you want to do it? | 20:08 |
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| annegentle | mordred: I think he does, is there a patch? | 20:08 |
| flaper87 | if there's no other nomination, take him! | 20:08 |
| sdague | +1 | 20:08 |
| mordred | lifeless: oh, sorry. I mis-read ttx's statement | 20:08 |
| annegentle | redrobot: great! | 20:08 |
| mordred | +1 | 20:08 |
| ttx | #agreed Douglas Mendizabal nominated PTL for the Barbican Team in Mitaka | 20:08 |
| ttx | * Magnum | 20:08 |
| ttx | The liberty PTL (Adrian Otto) pushed his candidacy after the deadline. A challenger (Hongbin Lu) also stepped up. | 20:08 |
| jgriffith | mordred: me too, interpretted as he "would if nobody else did" | 20:08 |
| ttx | So for that one we have to choose. We can choose one of them, someone else, or run an election with those two | 20:08 |
| jgriffith | election | 20:08 |
| mordred | election | 20:08 |
| annegentle | I'd like an election | 20:08 |
| sdague | election | 20:08 |
| russellb | election +1 | 20:09 |
| dhellmann | if they both still want to do it, we should have an election | 20:09 |
| flaper87 | I'd vote election | 20:09 |
| russellb | dhellmann: +1 | 20:09 |
| annegentle | flaper87: nice | 20:09 |
| markmcclain-mobi | Election | 20:09 |
| flaper87 | :P | 20:09 |
| dtroyer | has anyone talked to either of them? do they both still want it? | 20:09 |
| adrian_otto | have you asked Hongbin if he wants an election? | 20:09 |
| annegentle | are our election officials up for that? | 20:09 |
| hongbin | yes I want | 20:09 |
| ttx | with those two candidates, right ? No new nomination period ? | 20:09 |
| adrian_otto | ok | 20:09 |
| annegentle | dtroyer: I have talked to Adrian and he's up for it | 20:09 |
| dhellmann | ttx: right | 20:09 |
| annegentle | ttx: yes | 20:09 |
| sdague | ttx: yes | 20:09 |
| dhellmann | hongbin: ok, thanks for confirming | 20:09 |
| ttx | #agreed An election should be held for Magnum contributors to pick their PTL with the two late candidacies in | 20:09 |
| annegentle | sounds good hongbin | 20:09 |
| dims | ++ | 20:09 |
| dtroyer | ok, both are confirmed then ,thx | 20:09 |
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| ttx | * MagnetoDB | 20:10 |
| annegentle | thanks for your willingness hongbin! | 20:10 |
| dtroyer | ++election | 20:10 |
| jgriffith | ttx: +1 to no new nomination period | 20:10 |
| ttx | No candidacy for that one. | 20:10 |
| ttx | We can confirm the current ptl, volunteer someone, or fast-track its removal from the Big Tent (next topic) | 20:10 |
| tristanC | annegentle: I guess we could also ran that election yes, can it wait after TC rounds ? | 20:10 |
| russellb | fast track removal | 20:10 |
| sdague | fast track removal | 20:10 |
| ttx | I think I prefer the latter | 20:10 |
| flaper87 | fast track removal | 20:10 |
| annegentle | tristanC: I think it can wait and will avoid confusion | 20:10 |
| ttx | tristanC: would be better to start it asap if possible | 20:10 |
| annegentle | h | 20:10 |
| jgriffith | fast track removal | 20:10 |
| annegentle | ha | 20:10 |
| annegentle | :) | 20:10 |
| ttx | tristanC: your call | 20:10 |
| annegentle | tristanC: or run it this week if possible | 20:10 |
| dhellmann | we should mothball magnetodb, but didn't we need to hold onto the repo names for ATC status calculations? | 20:10 |
| ttx | annegentle: We kinda need a Mitaka PTL to prepare the design summit asap | 20:11 |
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| tristanC | that's is doable, I'll check that with tony in a few hours | 20:11 |
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| annegentle | ttx: ah, true, hadn't considered that | 20:11 |
| ttx | If we agree on fasttrack removal, we can move to the next topic | 20:11 |
| sdague | so, I'd also like to say I consider all these projects in the dog house, and if they miss deadlines again next time I'm not convinced we should just wave it off | 20:11 |
| annegentle | no need for a PTL if there's no project right? | 20:11 |
| sdague | because, it's 6 days | 20:11 |
| jgriffith | sdague: +1 | 20:11 |
| jeblair | ttx: agree removal | 20:11 |
| mordred | removal | 20:11 |
| sdague | waiting until the last minute is completely disrespectful of the openstack community | 20:11 |
| ttx | #agreed Fast-track removal for MagnetoDB rather than be awkward and nominate someone to kill it | 20:11 |
| dhellmann | sdague: double secret probation? | 20:11 |
| flaper87 | sdague: ++ | 20:12 |
| jgriffith | sdague: and I'm bighting my tongue for the "how can you be PTL if you can't submit a proposal" | 20:12 |
| jeblair | sdague: yes; i'm willing to give a little leeway because of the new election process, but honestly, that's a flimsy excuse. | 20:12 |
| jgriffith | but don't want to get into it | 20:12 |
| flaper87 | I think we should reconsider the whole candidacy proposal process | 20:12 |
| flaper87 | and just have a deadline | 20:12 |
| flaper87 | let it open and just have a single deadline | 20:12 |
| annegentle | flaper87: ++ why window it | 20:12 |
| mordred | well ... | 20:12 |
| jgriffith | flaper87: there's nothing wrong with the process if you actually read the guidelines | 20:12 |
| jgriffith | IMHO | 20:12 |
| annegentle | mordred: I mean I can think of all kinds of weird situations and bad behavior | 20:12 |
| russellb | i think it's just as simple as people not keeping up with openstack-dev | 20:12 |
| flaper87 | that won't solve people waiting until the last minute BUT jeez, it's fixed deadline | 20:12 |
| jgriffith | russellb: +1000 | 20:13 |
| mordred | I think that's also probelmatic because it's a great passive aggressive way to try to create a lame-duck cycle | 20:13 |
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| sdague | russellb: these dates are published way in advance | 20:13 |
| annegentle | mordred: heh | 20:13 |
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| ttx | sdague: it's not just disrepectful. It's very risky. Anyone can get in at the last second | 20:13 |
| mordred | announce your candidacy for PTL at the start of the cycle - watch hijinx ensue | 20:13 |
| sdague | if as the current PTL you can't keep track of when elections are, I'm dubious on your organization skills as a PTL | 20:13 |
| adrian_otto | sdague: this was a new process, and it was not well published in advance. I looked months ago, and could not find it. | 20:13 |
| redrobot | I don't think there's anything wrong with the current process. If anything I would request that the deadline be 23:59 UTC instead of early in the morning UTC. Makes date conversions a little easier. | 20:13 |
| jgriffith | sorry, I just think that if you're going to run for PTL you should be involved in the process/ ML etc | 20:13 |
| flaper87 | jgriffith: sure but there's no need to have a start date | 20:13 |
| sergmelikyan | redrobot: +1 | 20:14 |
| dhellmann | adrian_otto: did you miss the email right before the election period? | 20:14 |
| flaper87 | it's a step we don't need, especially now that there's an elections repo | 20:14 |
| jeblair | mordred: ah yeah. thanks for articulating that. i agree that keeping the window is good. | 20:14 |
| mordred | dhellmann: there are ... lots ... of emails | 20:14 |
| dtroyer | having been through this once now I think we all know what to expect come next spring | 20:14 |
| jgriffith | flaper87: Ok.. I'd like to propose my candidacy for the Q release today then | 20:14 |
| lifeless | 6 days is less than a holiday | 20:14 |
| lifeless | if folk take leave to go to the beach, or skiing | 20:14 |
| sdague | flaper87: I'm also fine openning it up a month early | 20:14 |
| jgriffith | dtroyer: +1 | 20:14 |
| mordred | if I'd been running, I probably would have missed it too - I think it's a fair mistake to make | 20:14 |
| mordred | dtroyer: ++ | 20:14 |
| flaper87 | jgriffith: you can't until there's no codename ;) | 20:14 |
| markmcclain-mobi | I like having a start date.. Otherwise we're perpetual election cycle | 20:14 |
| sdague | so that people that know they will be on vacation can put it out there early | 20:14 |
| annegentle | mordred: it happens :) | 20:14 |
| russellb | mordred: ++ | 20:14 |
| flaper87 | as soon as there's a codename, it should be opened | 20:14 |
| devananda | I would suggest the nomination window be declared at the start of the cycle and listed alongside the release schedule | 20:15 |
| dtroyer | 6 days is short, it shoudl be longer, but the fact that the election was coming was not a surprise to anyone | 20:15 |
| jgriffith | flaper87: well then that should be our next topic.. we need to fix that :) | 20:15 |
| edleafe | flaper87: ++ | 20:15 |
| thingee | August 21st is when the proposal went out for workflow in the next PTL election http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-August/072600.html | 20:15 |
| dougwig | could we maybe wait and see if this is a repeated problem, instead of kicking the folks that missed this time around? | 20:15 |
| russellb | anyway, we should move on | 20:15 |
| mordred | devananda: ++ | 20:15 |
| jeblair | flaper87: the codename can be something like a year in advance now. | 20:15 |
| ttx | Also it's good to know who are the PTLs before you start nopminating for TC | 20:15 |
| devananda | so that no one is left in the hypothetical state of being on vacation when the nomination window both starts and is announced | 20:15 |
| annegentle | dougwig: yeah | 20:15 |
| dhellmann | flaper87: as someone sitting through election commercials for an election more than a year off, no, please, have a shorter cycle than that | 20:15 |
| adrian_otto | dhellman: yes, I did. My son was in the hospital. | 20:15 |
| annegentle | dhellmann: ha srsly | 20:15 |
| ttx | Seriously, if you want to be a PTL, one week nomiunation is plenty enough | 20:15 |
| devananda | and so that it is listed on the same wiki page that we all reference for timelines of releases and such | 20:15 |
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| jgriffith | dougwig: not kicking just to be clear, but saying I don' t think our process is broken and needs a revamp or big analysis at this time | 20:15 |
| jgriffith | ttx: yeah, I have to agree with you on that for sure | 20:16 |
| sdague | devananda: yeh, listing the timelines with the release timelines seems like a good idea | 20:16 |
| annegentle | we revamped the process, it caught a few people, but we had the checks in place, so I think we're fine. | 20:16 |
| dhellmann | adrian_otto: ok, sorry to hear that, and thanks for saying so. I'm trying to understand how we can communicate better, so it sounds like having > 1 week may have helped here. | 20:16 |
| adrian_otto | just publish the requirements far in advance,a nd we will plan accordingly. | 20:16 |
| flaper87 | FWIW, I'm not complaining about the mistakes, really. That happens ,that could happen to me because I can't calendar | 20:16 |
| thingee | adrian_otto, dhellmann: the workflow proposal went out august 21st http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-August/072600.html | 20:16 |
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| anteaya | thingee: that didnt' include dates | 20:17 |
| flaper87 | I'm just saying that I've seen the trend to just wait until the last minute and I think that kinda suggests we don't need just a week | 20:17 |
| anteaya | thingee: that proposed using a git repo | 20:17 |
| thingee | anteaya: my point is discussions started. | 20:17 |
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| flaper87 | dhellmann: I didn't suggest to have it opened for a year, though. | 20:17 |
| thingee | anteaya: exactly, change in workflow | 20:17 |
| dhellmann | flaper87: speaking of calendar, maybe we can get a public ICS file with some of the big dates on it so folks can subscribe to it for updates | 20:17 |
| anteaya | thingee: about the git repo instead of the mailing list | 20:17 |
| ttx | I propose we move on. I think if the same projects come next year the choice of the TC might be different, like pick new people by principle | 20:17 |
| anteaya | thingee: and I started it last spring actually | 20:17 |
| sdague | ok, so I think we got our garumphs out on this one | 20:17 |
| jgriffith | flaper87: yeah, we should give people 3 weeks to procrastinate :) | 20:17 |
| flaper87 | dhellmann: that also sounds good | 20:17 |
| edleafe | how about we open at a set date, but close it randomly. Encourage people to declare early! :) | 20:17 |
| sdague | ttx: yeh, lets move on | 20:17 |
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| thingee | anteaya: that's what we're talking about, change in workflow mailing list -> git repo | 20:17 |
| devananda | dhellmann: we have public ICS for project meetings. ++ to putting election dates on it as well | 20:17 |
| thingee | anteaya: and when that started | 20:17 |
| ttx | If you have a proposal to change the election process, feel free to push it | 20:18 |
| mordred | devananda: ++ | 20:18 |
| flaper87 | jgriffith: I'll take it :P | 20:18 |
| mordred | dhellmann: ++ | 20:18 |
| dhellmann | devananda: release milestones, too | 20:18 |
| jgriffith | and I do understand that some folks had circumstances.. so don't take that the wrong way | 20:18 |
| mordred | dhellmann: + | 20:18 |
| mordred | YES | 20:18 |
| mordred | release milestones in ical would be WIN | 20:18 |
| ttx | We have a lot to cover today, let's move on | 20:18 |
| mordred | I'm constantly looing for those | 20:18 |
| ttx | mordred: it did exist and nobody told me they were using it | 20:18 |
| dhellmann | mordred, devananda, flaper87 : maybe one of you can take that on? | 20:18 |
| ttx | #topic Remove MagnetoDB from OpenStack | 20:18 |
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| flaper87 | dhellmann: happy to help, yup | 20:18 |
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| dhellmann | flaper87: wonderful, let's brainstorm tomorrow | 20:19 |
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| mordred | so, it's a dead project, which is not a condemnation of the people or the project, merely a statement of fact | 20:19 |
| dhellmann | ttx, fungi : what are the technical requirements for being able to know who contributed to magnetodb for atc status? | 20:19 |
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| ttx | mordred: oh look, an old ical feed nobody cared about: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/DiabloReleaseSchedule | 20:19 |
| devananda | flaper87, ttx: fwiw -- http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/irc-meetings/tree/README.rst | 20:19 |
| mordred | ttx: dude. that was diablo. almost nobody in this channel was here then | 20:19 |
| mestery | mordred: lol :) | 20:20 |
| dims | lol | 20:20 |
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| ttx | mordred: was still around for Folsom :) | 20:20 |
| jgriffith | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/FolsomReleaseSchedule | 20:20 |
| sdague | so... magnetodb.... | 20:21 |
| ttx | So, MagnetoDB... | 20:21 |
| ttx | We can do a specific file to track retired things as a subsequent commit, but landing this commit now would solve the "no PTL" issue. | 20:21 |
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| sdague | yeh, I'm happy with the retired bits as follow ons | 20:21 |
| thingee | ttx: would like to note that based on magentodb's stats (which isn't probably accurate on stackalytics) in reassuring the tag diversity. | 20:21 |
| ttx | so I'm fine with it as-is and we can fix the "dead projects" bin later | 20:21 |
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| dhellmann | that feels a bit sloppy | 20:21 |
| * flaper87 agrees w/ ttx and sdague | 20:21 | |
| ttx | thingee: I blame dhellmann for ensuring MagnetoDB diversity | 20:21 |
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| dhellmann | I mean, we could just as easily move this block of text into a new file, right? | 20:22 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: except that means a new patchset and new approvals | 20:22 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: otherwise yes | 20:22 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: also, nitpicking ton new file format | 20:22 |
| flaper87 | we can agree that the new patch set can be fast tracked ? | 20:22 |
| ttx | since it should also be able to contain dead repos | 20:23 |
| flaper87 | that way we make everyone happy | 20:23 |
| dhellmann | ttx: obviously it should be the same, we already have tools to read this format | 20:23 |
| ttx | dhellmann: makes it hard to use for dead repos (<cough> openstack/kite) | 20:23 |
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| ttx | which is why I prefer to merge that one and not bikeshed on the file format now | 20:24 |
| dhellmann | I'm not sure I see that. | 20:24 |
| dhellmann | Simply deleting the project has voter roll implications, so I don't like doing that. | 20:24 |
| ttx | dhellmann: what kind of implication ? MagnetoDB contributors won't be able to vote on TC election ? | 20:25 |
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| jgriffith | can we delete it as part of M only? | 20:25 |
| ttx | dhellmann: that sounds about fair, why would they ? | 20:25 |
| jgriffith | so that voter/ATC status counts for L? | 20:25 |
| sdague | there is only one contributor that would apply to - http://stackalytics.com/?metric=commits&user_id=tgehrke | 20:25 |
| sdague | all other magnetodb contributors have another commit | 20:25 |
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| lifeless | I propose we add them as a manual excemption | 20:25 |
| jgriffith | ahh | 20:25 |
| ttx | sdague: and again, if they are out, why would they elect the next 6 months TC members ? | 20:25 |
| mordred | we can add that person as an extra-atc | 20:25 |
| lifeless | and get on with it | 20:25 |
| jgriffith | lifeless: +1 | 20:25 |
| ttx | mordred, lifeless: why ? What's the point ? | 20:26 |
| lifeless | ttx: the point of them getting a summit pass under the rules we've set? | 20:26 |
| sdague | http://stackalytics.com/?module=magnetodb-group&metric=commits | 20:26 |
| sdague | only 4 contributors total this cycle | 20:26 |
| dhellmann | I guess I'm mixing up ATC and voting rights. It's ATC status that applies for more than one cycle. | 20:26 |
| ttx | lifeless: they already got it a long time ago | 20:26 |
| jeblair | i think i'm with ttx here -- i actually think the retroactive removal is okay | 20:26 |
| lifeless | ttx: won't they be valid for N too ? | 20:27 |
| ttx | lifeless: summit is 6 months now, no relationship to ATC status at all | 20:27 |
| lifeless | ttx: AIUI ATC lasts 2 cycles, not one | 20:27 |
| ttx | despite what the badge says | 20:27 |
| ttx | lifeless: and it's not our rules | 20:27 |
| dhellmann | ok | 20:27 |
| ttx | lifeless: it's the event organizer house rules | 20:27 |
| Rockyg | ATC might last 2 cycles, but free pass to summit is one | 20:28 |
| sdague | for what it's worth, the only contributor that would be affected didn't get the one patch to a mergable state | 20:28 |
| lifeless | ttx: ok, so nothing is being taken away from tgehrke if we do this | 20:28 |
| sdague | it was initial proposal, but finished by someone else | 20:28 |
| lifeless | ttx: in which case I'm fine | 20:28 |
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| sdague | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/189164/ | 20:28 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I thought something was being taken away, but if that's not the case I'm ok with it | 20:28 |
| ttx | lifeless: he just won't be able to vote on upcoming TC election, and I'm not even sure that would kick in. | 20:28 |
| jgriffith | seems fine to me, and if Todd for some reason is interested enough he can always appeal no? | 20:28 |
| ttx | I have enough votes to approve it now | 20:29 |
| notmyname | please don't get to the point of judging a contribution to see if it's worthy of granting voting status or not | 20:29 |
| ttx | notmyname: I'm not sure what you mean here | 20:29 |
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| sdague | notmyname: it's not whether the contribution is worthy. It's that the contribution was never completed. Someone else actually took it over and did the work. | 20:29 |
| jgriffith | notmyname: I don't think they were judging it, just stating he didn't actually contribute it... no? | 20:29 |
| dhellmann | jgriffith: I would rather we set a precedent that we're addressing that issue directly, than kicking it down the road. The next project might have 100 people affected by being removed. | 20:29 |
| sdague | but things are counted by gerrit owner | 20:30 |
| jgriffith | dhellmann: good point | 20:30 |
| dhellmann | so if we're saying that if your only contribution is to a project that we remove from the official list you're going to lose any rights you might have had, then that's ok as long as we state that up front | 20:30 |
| ttx | any objection to immediate approval ? | 20:30 |
| dhellmann | it's not ideal, I guess, but it is better than deciding that after the fact | 20:30 |
| notmyname | ttx: from sdague's comment. I don't know all the details. if someone is counted for voting status under the current rules, they should be able to vote, IMO. retroactively removing that seems wrong | 20:30 |
| lifeless | I'm not happy about their inability to vote in the TC; its true someone else finished it, but they still contributed | 20:30 |
| jgriffith | dhellmann: I get it, yeah | 20:31 |
| ttx | notmyname: there is no retroaction | 20:31 |
| dhellmann | right, they could have voted in this election, but not the next | 20:31 |
| sdague | dhellmann: yeh, I think we should just state that up front | 20:31 |
| ttx | lifeless: what if we had removed them 4 months ago ? | 20:31 |
| lifeless | ttx: but we didn't | 20:32 |
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| ttx | OK, let's kick it back to the review and move on | 20:32 |
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| lifeless | when it comes to voting, I think we have to be both transparent and fair | 20:32 |
| flaper87 | I think it'd be fair to grant vote rights for that ATC and the state up front what we've just said in this meeting | 20:33 |
| ttx | dhellmann: post a -1 then and I'll wait, even if it has more approvals than needed already | 20:33 |
| markmcclain-mobi | I think if the team was part of any portion of the cycle we should honor it otherwise the tc could manipulate the electorate | 20:33 |
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| sdague | yeh, I'd be fine with extra atc status to expire post this election | 20:33 |
| lifeless | right, thats all I've asked for - add them to extra-atc for one cycle, done. | 20:33 |
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| sdague | lifeless: yeh, I'm fine with that | 20:33 |
| ttx | lifeless: two cycles | 20:33 |
| lifeless | ttx: sure | 20:33 |
| ttx | since their contribution grants them ATC for one year | 20:34 |
| flaper87 | We can write the conclusions of this meeting down in case this happens again | 20:34 |
| lifeless | ttx: 'a period of ATC validity' | 20:34 |
| anteaya | ATC is for 365 days | 20:34 |
| mestery | flaper87: ++, good idea | 20:34 |
| ttx | anyway, push it to the review | 20:34 |
| anteaya | it is in the by-laws | 20:34 |
| sdague | so, it's also weird that our ATC counting does count people that push a patch that fails all the tests, and never show up again | 20:34 |
| ttx | moving on | 20:34 |
| sdague | and someone else makes the code work and landable | 20:34 |
| ttx | sdague: it should only count landed patches | 20:35 |
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| sdague | ttx: yes, landed by someone else | 20:35 |
| sdague | because gerrit owner never resets | 20:35 |
| ttx | sdague: yeah, orthogonal discussion | 20:35 |
| dhellmann | anteaya: can you add a link to the relevant section of the bylaws in a comment on the review so we can use that to work up the policy? | 20:35 |
| jeblair | sdague: if there was no contribution from the original author, i'm not sure why someone would pick up that patch vs starting a new one. | 20:35 |
| anteaya | dhellmann: will do | 20:35 |
| dhellmann | anteaya: thanks | 20:35 |
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| ttx | #topic Introduce assert:follows-standard-deprecation tag | 20:36 |
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| ttx | #link https://review.openstack.org/207467 | 20:36 |
| ttx | Patchset 4 incorporated all the changes requested at the last TC meeting, based on feedback collected on the email thread and the cross-project meeting | 20:36 |
| lifeless | sdague: that means the person that fixed it chose not to reset the author | 20:36 |
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| ttx | Now has all needed approvals, will approve | 20:36 |
| jeblair | lifeless: you can't change the owner in gerrit | 20:36 |
| ttx | last-minute objection ? | 20:36 |
| sdague | lifeless: actually, gerrit author never resets. Ever. | 20:36 |
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| jeblair | owner | 20:36 |
| jeblair | not author | 20:36 |
| sdague | right, owner | 20:36 |
| sdague | which is the atc counter | 20:37 |
| ttx | approved | 20:37 |
| * ttx stays on topic | 20:37 | |
| ttx | #topic Add new project Kosmos | 20:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Add new project Kosmos (Meeting topic: tc)" | 20:37 | |
| fungi | dhellmann: sorry, got sucked into other conversations. identifying contributors to a repo as official means we need some way of identifying that the repo was official at some particular point in time. ultimately we on'y really need to know that as far back as two cycles (one year) because of bylaws around tc elections | 20:37 |
| ttx | #link https://review.openstack.org/223674 | 20:37 |
| * Rockyg orders a round of beers hoping the TC are happy drunks | 20:38 | |
| dhellmann | fungi: ok, thanks | 20:38 |
| ttx | I propose we go back to owner vs. ATC in open discussion if we have time left | 20:38 |
| russellb | Rockyg: huh? | 20:38 |
| ttx | Kosmos reignited the debate on how early you can submit project teams for inclusion in the tent | 20:38 |
| flaper87 | Jus to clarify my view, I'm not against Kosmos or the team but I'd like us to state this clearly too | 20:38 |
| annegentle | way to go Kosmos | 20:38 |
| ttx | I don't have a very strong position on that. My gut feeling is that I'd prefer the teams have something to show before they can be considered | 20:38 |
| annegentle | :) | 20:38 |
| lifeless | jeblair: sdague: I thought our tool looked at the git history ? | 20:39 |
| ttx | And since we removed the stackforge rename step, I feel like there is no hurry... But I could easily be convinced otherwise | 20:39 |
| * dhellmann is considering applying for official status for a project to come up with project ideas | 20:39 | |
| flaper87 | It does feel weird to approve empty projects, tbh. | 20:39 |
| Rockyg | trying to lighten the discussion. Getting a bit heated. Rightfully so, but.....let's stay congenial | 20:39 |
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| dtroyer | we have pushed off other teams to get some history | 20:39 |
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| ttx | anyone from Kosmos to tell us why they want/need it now ? | 20:39 |
| sdague | I do think it's a little different if those folks are already doing existing projects though | 20:39 |
| flaper87 | dtroyer: right | 20:39 |
| ttx | sdague: yes, agreed, but it feels a bit subjective | 20:39 |
| ttx | they are already "one of us" I guess | 20:40 |
| russellb | ttx: comments seem to be that they don't care much whether it's now or later, and were just trying to follow process | 20:40 |
| * Rockyg volunteers to be on dhellmann's project | 20:40 | |
| annegentle | projects are people too | 20:40 |
| flaper87 | sdague: while I agree with that, opening it to subjective judgement doesn't feel right | 20:40 |
| russellb | it's more of a "tell us when is the right time" | 20:40 |
| mugsie_cell | ttx: I am on a mobile, but I gave an overview in my review | 20:40 |
| lifeless | sdague: mmm, the namespace was the big thing in the past, but with the new stackforge mechanism... shouldn't matter at all | 20:40 |
| dougwig | just filing the paperwork, so to speak. i wasn't aware of a want/need requirement. we're open to whatever. | 20:40 |
| mestery | russellb: ++ | 20:40 |
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| russellb | dougwig: thanks | 20:40 |
| russellb | so really just up to us to say if this is the right time or not, since it's not clear enough to them | 20:40 |
| ttx | mugsie_cell: thx, will read | 20:40 |
| * russellb thinks it's fine | 20:41 | |
| russellb | but don't feel that strongly | 20:41 |
| russellb | though they make a good point that we could probably help some in clarifying it in new project workflow so people know what to expect | 20:41 |
| mestery | Since it's top of mind and if folks don't mind, may make sense to approve now rather than punt this discussion down the road. | 20:41 |
| flaper87 | I think that either way, we won't be getting in their way | 20:41 |
| ttx | right, I'm not -1ing, just raising the topic while it's here | 20:41 |
| mestery | flaper87: ++ | 20:41 |
| russellb | flaper87: agree | 20:41 |
| lifeless | I could go either way here | 20:41 |
| dougwig | flaper87: indeed, we will be following the openstack conventions from our respective projects either way. | 20:42 |
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| lifeless | on the on hand, being 'in' early means no remedial catchup on project testing interface etc | 20:42 |
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| russellb | they'll be doing most of that either way, i suspect | 20:42 |
| dtroyer | I think the consistent move is to defer this for a time and come back when there is some history for the project. | 20:42 |
| lifeless | on the other hand, we've been prtty consistent about asking for visible evidence of 'doing stuff the openstack way' | 20:42 |
| ttx | basically we are saying we are trusting that team to do the right thing | 20:42 |
| flaper87 | I just don't feel like making subjective judgements. Hope that makes sense. I do trust these folks :) | 20:42 |
| jeblair | i'm still okay with new official empty projects | 20:42 |
| ttx | rather than seeing the right thing in action | 20:42 |
| fungi | lifeless: (still catching up so previous topic) the tool in question is based on gerrit queries for owner accounts (because the author is not necessarily someone holding a foundation membership/agreeing to a cla, but the uploader is) http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/tools/atc | 20:43 |
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| ttx | I'm fine with that very small leap of faith | 20:43 |
| * mordred agrees with jeblair | 20:43 | |
| * mordred has no problem approving empty projets made up of humans who are clearly openstack humans | 20:43 | |
| flaper87 | if we're fine with new empty projects from folks that are already contributors of OpenStack, can we make that a thing in our governance repo? | 20:43 |
| russellb | mordred: jeblair especially when it's people we already know | 20:43 |
| dhellmann | yeah, esp. since the folks involved are already coming from existing official projects -- that hasn't always been the case for the other projects we've asked to wait | 20:43 |
| mestery | mordred: Well said | 20:43 |
| mordred | russellb: yup | 20:43 |
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| flaper87 | Just to avoid having this conversation again in the futre | 20:43 |
| flaper87 | future | 20:43 |
| annegentle | mordred: that's... weird. Just cuz I go to soylent green in my mind. | 20:43 |
| ttx | the review has flaper87 -1 and is still missing a few approvals | 20:44 |
| flaper87 | I'm all for changing my vote, I just wanted to make sure we had this conversation | 20:44 |
| annegentle | but yeah on the sentiment | 20:44 |
| * flaper87 changed his vote | 20:44 | |
| ttx | also I wanted to add -- this team has a worthwhile goal, I would hate to get in their way | 20:44 |
| mordred | annegentle: openstack humans are tasty? | 20:44 |
| flaper87 | I'll try to word this and put it in our governance repo | 20:44 |
| annegentle | nutritious! | 20:44 |
| flaper87 | because we like openstack humans | 20:44 |
| ttx | OK, we have enough now | 20:44 |
| sdague | though, the reality is being in the gov repo shouldn't really change anything about them getting stuff done | 20:45 |
| sdague | because they can still have the gerrit repo regardless | 20:45 |
| dtroyer | it shouldn't but it will affect resource allocation in spme companies | 20:45 |
| sdague | dtroyer: sure | 20:45 |
| ttx | approving in 30 sec tro give others a chance to record their vote | 20:45 |
| anteaya | dhellmann: commented | 20:45 |
| ttx | or oppose | 20:45 |
| dhellmann | anteaya: ty | 20:45 |
| anteaya | welcome | 20:45 |
| ttx | I'll push the button at the end of this meeting | 20:46 |
| ttx | in the mean time | 20:46 |
| ttx | #topic Cross-project track at Mitaka design summit: collecting topics | 20:46 |
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| lifeless | there, I'm the -1 ;) | 20:46 |
| ttx | jeblair and myself worked last week to resurrect odsreg | 20:46 |
| ttx | lifeless: ah! | 20:46 |
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| ttx | The session suggestion website is opened at: | 20:47 |
| ttx | #link http://odsreg.openstack.org/ | 20:47 |
| ttx | 5 suggestions there so far | 20:47 |
| ttx | Note sure what relationship it should have with the etherpad. Since we posted the etherpad URL here people have been adding stuff to it directly | 20:47 |
| ttx | Also, should we publish a deadline ? | 20:47 |
| russellb | i would think it makes sense to just input everything from the etherpad into odsreg so it's in one place | 20:47 |
| * russellb shrugs | 20:48 | |
| flaper87 | ttx: +1 for deadline and I'd recommend sending out an email recommending people to move their topics to odsreg | 20:48 |
| ttx | flaper87: ok, who takes that action ? | 20:48 |
| ttx | Also I propose to set up a specific meeting for the cross-project track workgroup to come up with a proposed plan, rather than take meeting time to work out the details | 20:48 |
| ttx | since we have a bit of a backlog already | 20:48 |
| sdague | seems reasonable | 20:48 |
| anteaya | annegentle: did you want to suggest a session on communication? as a follow up of your mailing list thread? | 20:49 |
| flaper87 | ttx: I will | 20:49 |
| flaper87 | I've some time in my hands now | 20:49 |
| sdague | so, was there a particular reason to not just use the etherpad? | 20:49 |
| annegentle | anteaya: I did add to the etherpad iirc | 20:49 |
| annegentle | but hadn't done the osdreg step | 20:49 |
| anteaya | okay so I guess it will be transfered | 20:49 |
| ttx | #action flaper87 to send a deadline and recommend people to move their topics to odsreg | 20:49 |
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| annegentle | anteaya: do I need to do it? | 20:49 |
| annegentle | ah ok | 20:50 |
| anteaya | ah self serve looks like | 20:50 |
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| lifeless | isn't the etherpad better for us ? | 20:50 |
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| anteaya | sdague: yes at last weeks meeting folks didn't want to use the etherpad | 20:50 |
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| dhellmann | *some folks | 20:50 |
| sdague | ok | 20:50 |
| lifeless | we can't use odsreg to schedule | 20:50 |
| anteaya | much discussion about it, then odsreg is alive | 20:50 |
| anteaya | dhellmann: thanks for the correction, some folks | 20:51 |
| lifeless | the only point - AIUI from last week - was structured data gathering | 20:51 |
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| ttx | yeah, for workgroup discussion we'll likely put all things in an etherpad again | 20:51 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I think the main point was ensuring there was a name attached to everything | 20:51 |
| lifeless | so - lets /not/ mass copy stuff to odsreg, waste of valuable time | 20:51 |
| ttx | I'm fine aitehr way | 20:52 |
| ttx | or either | 20:52 |
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| jeblair | we may get duplicate submissions that way | 20:52 |
| lifeless | if we're going to have to move it all to the etherpad anyway | 20:52 |
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| annegentle | ok | 20:53 |
| ttx | flaper87: so maybe just set a deadline | 20:53 |
| ttx | and find a date for a planning meeting | 20:53 |
| flaper87 | ttx: yeah | 20:53 |
| annegentle | I have to duck out early, sorry. Feel free to sign me up for a blog post if needed. | 20:53 |
| ttx | moving on ? | 20:54 |
| jeblair | i believe we also wanted to use odsreg to collect comments | 20:54 |
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| jeblair | so i think having all the topics in there would help facilitate that | 20:54 |
| jeblair | (actually, i think that was the main thing we wanted it for) | 20:54 |
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| dhellmann | ah, I thought it was the names on the comments we cared about, since anyone can leave text in the etherpad, too, but I probably misunderstood | 20:55 |
| anteaya | jeblair: I remember the ability to create comments | 20:55 |
| ttx | flaper87: you write the email you make the call :) | 20:55 |
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| jeblair | dhellmann: i bet we'd be happiest with both comments and names of people who left them! :) | 20:55 |
| flaper87 | ttx: Yes sir! I'll read more into this | 20:56 |
| ttx | people with a string opinion can discuss with flaper87 about the right wording. | 20:56 |
| anteaya | dhellmann: I thought it was the names on the topics, but you will capture names on comments too with odsreg | 20:56 |
| ttx | Moving on | 20:56 |
| sdague | yeh, the real concern was last time we had topics without owners, that was a mess :) | 20:56 |
| dhellmann | jeblair: you got your chocolate in my peanut butter! | 20:56 |
| ttx | #topic Add team:non-diverse-affiliation tag | 20:56 |
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| ttx | #link https://review.openstack.org/218725 | 20:56 |
| ttx | This is making slow but steady progress | 20:56 |
| ttx | Most of the opposition seems to focus on the wording of the first paragraph | 20:56 |
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| ttx | No time to discuss it now -- If you have other objections it would be good to express those, so that jogo can include them in the next revision of this | 20:56 |
| ttx | #topic Communications workgroup report | 20:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Communications workgroup report (Meeting topic: tc)" | 20:56 | |
| ttx | flaper87: we might have enough for a blogpost, and anne signed up for one | 20:57 |
| flaper87 | We didn't have a blog post last week, but I think we have material for this week | 20:57 |
| flaper87 | ttx: yup | 20:57 |
| ttx | flaper87: any other comment ? | 20:57 |
| flaper87 | nope, I'm glad she raised her hand | 20:57 |
| flaper87 | :P | 20:57 |
| ttx | #topic Open discussion | 20:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: tc)" | 20:57 | |
| ttx | Skipping "other workgroups" since we don't really have any | 20:57 |
| ttx | So it looks like the final decision on Kosmos will be delayed to next week, so we have time to think a bit more about it | 20:58 |
| ttx | Quick note that we'll be having TC elections starting next week with self-nominations | 20:58 |
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| ttx | We renew half the TC (russellb, sdague, annegentle, jgriffith, dhellmann and mordred's seats) | 20:58 |
| ttx | Anything else, anyone ? | 20:59 |
| flaper87 | o/ | 20:59 |
| flaper87 | just a quick note | 20:59 |
| ttx | flaper87: one minute | 20:59 |
| flaper87 | I'd like us to improve a bit the process of reviewing cross-project specs. I'll be digging into this and I'll come back with more info | 20:59 |
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| flaper87 | hopefully a solution or at the very lesat an idea | 20:59 |
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| ttx | mordred: you will sync with dhellmann for a new patchset on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224743/ ? | 21:00 |
| flaper87 | It's my impression that those specs are moving forward very slow | 21:00 |
| flaper87 | that's it | 21:00 |
| ttx | flaper87: you saw the recent thread about it right | 21:00 |
| ttx | anne started it | 21:00 |
| flaper87 | ttx: yes | 21:00 |
| ttx | ok, just checking | 21:01 |
| flaper87 | :) | 21:01 |
| ttx | we'll likely have a cross-project session on that, I proposed one | 21:01 |
| ttx | and... no time left | 21:01 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 22 21:01:21 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:01 |
| flaper87 | not planning to do this alone | 21:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2015/tc.2015-09-22-20.01.html | 21:01 |
| flaper87 | :P | 21:01 |
| ttx | Thanks everyone! | 21:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2015/tc.2015-09-22-20.01.txt | 21:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tc/2015/tc.2015-09-22-20.01.log.html | 21:01 |
| thingee | #startmeeting crossproject | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Tue Sep 22 21:01:36 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thingee. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: crossproject)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'crossproject' | 21:01 |
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| jroll | \o | 21:01 |
| thingee | courtesy ping for david-lyle flaper87 dims dtroyer johnthetubaguy rakhmerov | 21:01 |
| thingee | courtesy ping for smelikyan morganfainberg adrian_otto bswartz slagle | 21:01 |
| thingee | courtesy ping for adrian_otto mestery kiall jeblair thinrichs j^2 stevebaker | 21:01 |
| thingee | courtesy ping for mtreinish Daisy Piet notmyname ttx isviridov gordc SlickNik | 21:01 |
| thingee | courtesy ping for cloudnull loquacities thingee hyakuhei redrobot dirk TravT | 21:01 |
| thingee | courtesy ping for vipul lifeless annegentle SergeyLukjanov devananda boris-42 nikhil_k | 21:01 |
| jokke_ | o/ | 21:01 |
| mestery | o/ | 21:01 |
| lifeless | o/ | 21:02 |
| devananda | o/ | 21:02 |
| thingee | hi everyone! | 21:02 |
| EmilienM | o/ | 21:02 |
| dims | o/ | 21:02 |
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| SergeyLukjanov | o/ | 21:02 |
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| elmiko | o/ | 21:02 |
| redrobot | o/ | 21:02 |
| j^2 | O7 | 21:02 |
| notmyname | here | 21:02 |
| thingee | Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/CrossProjectMeeting | 21:02 |
| j^2 | o7 | 21:02 |
| Rockyg | o/ | 21:02 |
| stevebaker | \o | 21:02 |
| dtroyer | o/ | 21:02 |
| thingee | #topic review past action items | 21:02 |
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| tpatil | Hi | 21:02 |
| thingee | #info Add string freeze to common cycle with milestones merged thanks to johnthetubaguy and TC! | 21:02 |
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| thingee | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223011/ | 21:03 |
| thingee | #info Base feature deprecation policy merged thanks to ttx and the rest of TC! | 21:03 |
| thingee | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/207467/ | 21:03 |
| ttx | Yeah, I'll be in touch with PTLs to explain if and how they should assert it | 21:03 |
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| thingee | #info Return request ID to caller merged thanks to Abhishek and TC! | 21:03 |
| ttx | #action ttx to communicate about base deprecation policy | 21:04 |
| thingee | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156508/ | 21:04 |
| ttx | well, the tC just put the stamp on that one, no credits | 21:04 |
| ttx | Abhishek should get all the credit | 21:04 |
| SlickNik | o/ | 21:04 |
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| mordred | ttx: yes will sync | 21:04 |
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| thingee | lifeless: lets talk about avoiding using testr in environment under test | 21:05 |
| thingee | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218070/ | 21:05 |
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| tpatil | I would like to say thank you to everyone who helped in getting the spec "Return request Id to caller" approved | 21:05 |
| thingee | I think we're still in the same place from last cross project meeting? | 21:05 |
| lifeless | thingee: we talked last week; its on me to get more refinement | 21:05 |
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| lifeless | thingee: I've been working the backwards-compat-and-branchless stuff this week | 21:06 |
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| dhellmann | tpatil: that was a long effort, thanks for sticking with it | 21:06 |
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| thingee | got it, ok, we'll circle back next week? | 21:06 |
| tpatil | dhellmann, Thanks. I have few questions about next steps which I would like to discuss in Open discussion | 21:07 |
| thingee | lifeless: ^ | 21:07 |
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| Rockyg | abhishek, tpatil Thank you. It *will* be extremely helpful moving forward | 21:07 |
| thingee | ok! | 21:07 |
| thingee | #topic Team announcements (horizontal, vertical, diagonal) | 21:07 |
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| ttx | On the release management front, we are 3 weeks before the end of the liberty dev cycle | 21:07 |
| ttx | We are chasing the last FFEs which should have been merged a long time ago | 21:07 |
| ttx | We started issuing RC1s today | 21:08 |
| ttx | Most projects should issue those this week | 21:08 |
| tpatil | Rockyg: Thanks | 21:08 |
| ttx | Intermediary-released projects (like swift and ironic) are expected to release a likely-final Liberty version before end of month as well | 21:08 |
| stevebaker | ttx: do you want a releases review for the rc1 commit? | 21:08 |
| thingee | #info release management says 3 weeks before end of the liberty dev cycle | 21:08 |
| ttx | stevebaker: no. I do have an "open-mitaka" commit though | 21:08 |
| dhellmann | I believe we've finished all the library releases and stable branches for this cycle, but if you manage one that I missed please get in touch with me | 21:08 |
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| lifeless | thingee: yes, hopefully ;) | 21:09 |
| thingee | #info release management: RC1s have started today! | 21:09 |
| ttx | stevebaker: see https://review.openstack.org/#/q/branch:master+topic:open-mitaka,n,z | 21:09 |
| ttx | Starting now don't hesitate to flag things that may impact the final release(s), especially cross-project issues, in #openstack-relmgr-office | 21:09 |
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| stevebaker | do these coverage 4.0 changes need to be in the rc1s? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225736/1 | 21:09 |
| stevebaker | mordred: ^? | 21:09 |
| jroll | so, would this be a good time to ask why a new development cycle needs a major semver bump? :) | 21:10 |
| ttx | I think that's more forward-looking... mordred ? | 21:10 |
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| thingee | #info release-management: don't hesitate to flag things that main impact final release, especially cross-project issues in #openstack-relmgr-office | 21:10 |
| jroll | I asked this earlier and the answer was "that's what most projects seem to want" | 21:10 |
| ttx | jroll: it doesn't, for intermediary-released projects | 21:10 |
| jroll | but it's not really semver, so I just wanted to throw the question out there | 21:10 |
| clarkb | I would put coverage fixes in releases so coverage works but its not required to releease aince the joba run post merge | 21:10 |
| jroll | ttx: I'm asking in general, not about ironic specifically | 21:10 |
| ttx | see swift, they don't bump X on cycle boundaries | 21:11 |
| mordred | arro? | 21:11 |
| jroll | ttx: asking because we say "now we're doing semver" but we aren't actually doing semver | 21:11 |
| ttx | jroll: it's a bit of an artifact from pre-versioning | 21:11 |
| ttx | jroll: which we may get rid of early next cycle | 21:11 |
| mordred | stevebaker: it's only urgent if you have gating on your coverage tests working | 21:11 |
| devananda | jroll: I think ttx is saying that projects may choose, and likely both swift and ironic will choose _not_ to bump major version number on release cycle boundaries | 21:11 |
| mordred | stevebaker: if you do not have gating on coverage, then you can land those whenever | 21:11 |
| devananda | whereas other projects will choose to do that | 21:11 |
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| stevebaker | mordred: ah. we don't and I wish we did | 21:12 |
| mordred | stevebaker: although, if you land them now, it gets them off of y gerrit screen, which make me happy | 21:12 |
| jroll | devananda: rephrased, my question is "why are projects not doing semver right" :) "because that's their choice" is a fine answer | 21:12 |
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| thingee | ok, anything else for announcements? | 21:12 |
| fungi | jroll: that also seems to be the actual answer | 21:12 |
| ttx | jroll: so to answer your initial question, no it's not a good time to ask *now*, as we are deep down in the middle of the process | 21:12 |
| clarkb | thingee translation reviews | 21:13 |
| bknudson | for keystone looks like we can remove eventlet support since it was deprecated | 21:13 |
| clarkb | they should get into RCs | 21:13 |
| ttx | but asking at the start of the next cycle is a good thing :) | 21:13 |
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| jroll | ttx: sure, thanks | 21:13 |
| fungi | ahh, yes, wet all your rubber stamps, there are translation reviews awaiting | 21:13 |
| clarkb | topic is zanata/translationd | 21:13 |
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| clarkb | er zanata/translations | 21:13 |
| ttx | clarkb: new rules for StringFreeze (from johnthetubaguy) are that we give them a week post RC1 to merge them into a RC2 | 21:14 |
| thingee | clarkb: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223011/ | 21:14 |
| ttx | basically translators finalize translations based on the RC1 drop | 21:14 |
| ttx | but yeah, they are coming in | 21:15 |
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| bknudson | do translations go into master? | 21:15 |
| ttx | bknudson: I was about to ask that | 21:15 |
| jokke_ | afaik yes | 21:15 |
| clarkb | today its master only, yesterday we got asked to aupport the release branches too | 21:15 |
| ttx | if they go to master, most will be lost and require hackish scripts from AJaeger to backport | 21:15 |
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| clarkb | I am working on that | 21:15 |
| ttx | clarkb: check with AJaeger he had the magic script to sync only relevant things | 21:16 |
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| devananda | clarkb: is there still a % threshhold below which the translation bot won't propose it? | 21:16 |
| clarkb | ttx ya he has reviewed | 21:16 |
| clarkb | devananda yes | 21:16 |
| thingee | ok great, going to move on... | 21:16 |
| thingee | #topic Making the cross-project meeting more useful | 21:17 |
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| thingee | so this meeting... | 21:17 |
| thingee | Anne Gentle brought up the thread of asking how we could make this meeting more useful http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/074521.html | 21:17 |
| thingee | I think the basic breakdown is, in this meeting we ideas proposed that just aren't ready to be discussed here sometimes. Mainly because the right people haven't commented on a spec. | 21:19 |
| thingee | we have ideas proposed* | 21:19 |
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| bknudson | it's hard to get behind a x-project spec that you don't know if every project is going to accept it. | 21:19 |
| bknudson | or that it's going to take so long to implement that it might never be done | 21:20 |
| thingee | That brought light to the purpose of the product working group, which likes to follow these cross project ideas, and ensure the right projects are aware of them and give thoughts on those ideas. This helps with the idea of a spec for example becoming stale, or not getting the right attention. | 21:20 |
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| bknudson | e.g., if you have a 50% chance to get into nova and 50% chance to get into keystone, etc., pretty soon there's a ~0% chance it's done. | 21:20 |
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| ttx | thingee: one aspect of it is that some of those specs aren't really glamorous, but sometimes just plumbing | 21:21 |
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| ttx | so hard to see as part of a key objective or a larger vision | 21:21 |
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| ttx | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/openstack-specs/ | 21:22 |
| anteaya | ensuring any discussion is prefaced with a larger vision is helpful | 21:22 |
| notmyname | is the question what we can do to be better, or that something is broken now that we need to fix? | 21:22 |
| jokke_ | notmyname: you put my thoughts extremely well above | 21:23 |
| ttx | notmyname: my feeling (which I expressed on the thread) is that it's broken -- it's really a painful experience to drive something through that process | 21:23 |
| notmyname | ttx: the cross-project spec process? or are we talking about making this meeting betteR? | 21:23 |
| jokke_ | ttx: but does that break x-project meeting or just x-project specs? | 21:24 |
| fungi | a related note is http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/075129.html which indicates that our cross-project discussions really are a foreign language to at least some entrenched developers in our community | 21:24 |
| thingee | yeah I think things got derailed a bit. Let me try again... | 21:24 |
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| bknudson | a lot of boring work is hard to get reviewers of it. | 21:24 |
| ttx | notmyname: thought you were talking about the xproject specs process. | 21:24 |
| dims | fungi: y i tried explaining :) | 21:24 |
| bknudson | the release / spec process is geared towards adding new features. | 21:24 |
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| thingee | So from what I was getting from this thread, how can we make this meeting better. | 21:25 |
| notmyname | no, sorry. I thought the topic was about this meeting | 21:25 |
| thingee | I think sometimes we're not ready to have this meeting. The proposed specs still need attention or a good solution | 21:25 |
| ttx | notmyname: as far as the meeting goes, I feel like it fails to be used as a way to have direct discussions on cross-project issues. Almost nobody adds topics to discuss | 21:25 |
| annegentle | the thread is about all the channels and the outcomes we need from cross-project work. | 21:25 |
| thingee | oh hi annegentle ! | 21:25 |
| annegentle | this meeting being "a channel" | 21:25 |
| * annegentle waves | 21:25 | |
| jroll | thingee: we aren't ready, or agenda items aren't ready? :) | 21:26 |
| thingee | agenda items aren't ready | 21:26 |
| jroll | thingee: I think we need to encourage only adding things to agenda if they're ready for discussion, or someone wants confirmation it's a thing they should work on, or whatever | 21:26 |
| thingee | so I've given thought on the process for ideas that become cross project can come to light in this meeting http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/074867.html | 21:26 |
| thingee | my proposal^ | 21:26 |
| bknudson | for cross-project you really need some backing that it's a good idea early since it's going to be a lot of work | 21:26 |
| jroll | ++ | 21:26 |
| bknudson | so I think it's a good idea to bring half-baked ideas here | 21:26 |
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| jokke_ | ttx: I'd like to disagree ... this hour is extremely valuable at least for me to keep up what's going on around as I genuinely don't have time to crawl through the mailing list or spec repos to figure that out | 21:27 |
| fungi | well, and also that there are likely to be others who will help you convince all the various projects involved that whatever you need their help to get implemented is really worth the effort | 21:27 |
| thingee | jokke_: I'll be answering that bit of keeping up with the ML later :) | 21:27 |
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| annegentle | to me a meeting lets you get more real-time input and feedback | 21:27 |
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| thingee | So the main point of my proposal is cross project idea discussions should not be on IRC, ML, here and there. | 21:28 |
| jroll | yeah, I'm personally ok with topics in this meeting being "is this crazy?" but not "let's review this spec in real time" | 21:28 |
| thingee | it makes conversations difficult if you have to know where some people's views are in different places. | 21:28 |
| thingee | The first proposal is encouraging discussion to stay in the spec | 21:28 |
| thingee | in gerrit | 21:29 |
| ttx | jokke_: that's good fedback thx | 21:29 |
| ttx | +e | 21:29 |
| EmilienM | thingee: +1 | 21:29 |
| elmiko | jroll: +1 | 21:29 |
| jroll | thingee: I think there's value in finding out if everyone hates the idea before writing the spec :) | 21:29 |
| jokke_ | ++ | 21:29 |
| jroll | thingee: if we *do* want to solve that case outside of the meeting, the initial spec could just be the first section or two, to see if it should proceed further. or we could just spend 5 minutes on it here | 21:29 |
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| thingee | jroll: right! so going back to my first thing on the proposal, the idea starts on the ML, or a single project patch | 21:30 |
| thingee | assuming that's good, all discussions are encoruaged to stay in the gerrit review spec | 21:30 |
| ttx | jokke_: yeah, the key aspect being you have a predetermined agenda that lets you decide if it's worth attending / staying up | 21:30 |
| Rockyg | This meeting is really good to see where we are and provide some direction, but I think that cross project specs might benefit from a "virtual sprint" of interested people to focus on getting it past initial phase and into ready for "meeting" discussion | 21:30 |
| jroll | thingee: sure, but like annegentle said, it's much quicker feedback here. I'm fine with either way but she does have a point :) | 21:31 |
| anteaya | are we saying the meeting is only about specs? | 21:31 |
| jokke_ | ttx: that and I do have this slot booked in my calendar to catch up what's going on rather than trying to "justify" that time from something else through the week | 21:31 |
| fungi | jroll: on the other hand, it may be pretty quick to push up a one-paragraph placeholder/wip spec and ask for input there | 21:31 |
| thingee | jroll: right, so my main point of wanting to do this, is so that these meetings become more interesting to people. | 21:31 |
| thingee | the problem is not everyone attends this meeting. | 21:31 |
| jroll | fungi: yep, I mentioned that, I'm good with that | 21:31 |
| thingee | I think that might have to do with the fact that progress is kind of slow here. | 21:31 |
| thingee | things aren't ready | 21:31 |
| thingee | so people get bored | 21:31 |
| fungi | jroll: indeed. i should have read further before responding | 21:32 |
| jroll | :D | 21:32 |
| * Rockyg is starting to get bored...just kidding! | 21:32 | |
| thingee | instead, if we had specs in more of a consensus point, these meetings would be fewer because of the number of topics that get to that point, and makes the meeting more interesting when there are stuff to look over. | 21:32 |
| elmiko | haha | 21:32 |
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| devananda | thingee: well, it often takes > 1 cycle just to get some concensus on a spec in this group. developers who are focused on landing a patch dont want to wait that long. PTL's often have more time-sensitive things to deal with | 21:33 |
| fungi | i have already justified this chunk of my tuesday evenings to my wife, so there is some effort involved in rejustifying new timeslots ;) | 21:33 |
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| jokke_ | sorry to jump bit off topic, just gotta get this out of my mind before I loose the point. x-project spec is really painful, how about moving it from single person effort to the stage where it's single person effort to convince TC that the _idea_ is worth of pursuing after which it would be driven by TC to wider community. Rather than that one person trying to convince all the big eevil oldtimers? | 21:33 |
| annegentle | jokke_: so, smaller first test group? | 21:34 |
| fungi | jokke_: i don't think it's by necessity a single-person effort, but if you think the spec is a good idea then you may need to find other people to help. the tc can't unilaterally assign resources to help you implement it | 21:34 |
| Rockyg | fungi, thingee not saying *another* meeting for everything, but that a good idea spec gets a mini sprint to flesh it out and get it into a real spec shape | 21:34 |
| anteaya | gets a mini sprint? anyone can book a sprint for themselves | 21:35 |
| fungi | jokke_: some tc members may sign on to help implement the spec, but that's not limited just to the tc | 21:35 |
| jokke_ | annegentle: not really, but rather insight from the folks who are supposed to be representing the technical community and could most probably tell already at the idea level if it will never get through or not | 21:35 |
| anteaya | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/VirtualSprints | 21:35 |
| Rockyg | anteaya, yes, thanks! If the mini sprint were decided timewise in the cross project meeting, then maybe more interested people would turn up and get the spec in shape in that one meeting instead of over months | 21:36 |
| fungi | jokke_: "is this a good idea/is it likely to ever find enough backing to be implemented" strikes me as the reason why the tc votes on cross-project specs anyway | 21:36 |
| annegentle | jokke_: so not really size as much as experience/instinct | 21:37 |
| anteaya | maybe, but noone is standing in the way of anyone booking their own sprint, just sign up for the space | 21:37 |
| jokke_ | fungi: I'm not saying that TC has magical unlimited resources to pour, but one would have way easier path to bring stuff up to the wide audience if the TC is in general behind the idea and perhaps helping to form the first iteration of the spec to the form it has even chanse to get to the point in next weeks rather than months/cycles | 21:37 |
| bknudson | for the amount of work that x-proj specs take to implement, we'd want something stronger than "maybe this is going to be implemented" | 21:37 |
| jokke_ | annegentle: exactly | 21:37 |
| annegentle | jokke_: fungi: What I experienced with service catalog is that I couldn't implement it all and have to find people who can. | 21:37 |
| jroll | anteaya: Rockyg: I don't see any need for an official sprint, nor deciding on a time in this meeting. could just send an email to the list "hey I'm hacking on this spec at x time in #openstack-channel, interested parties welcome" | 21:37 |
| annegentle | bknudson: yeah that makes sense | 21:37 |
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| elmiko | bknudson: +1 | 21:37 |
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| anteaya | jroll: sprints aren't official that is my point | 21:38 |
| ttx | jokke_: I'd rather have it be an open group. Could be a TC workgroup, with TC members but opened to anyone interested | 21:38 |
| anteaya | jroll: and yes the workflow you propose is my expectation | 21:38 |
| jroll | anteaya: yep +1 | 21:38 |
| fungi | i think helping you get your spec into sufficient shape that it's implementable is part of why the tc is acting as the approving body for those specs | 21:38 |
| thingee | ok, well I encourage folks to respond to the thread. I think having specs with solutions and ready for feedback would be great. There's ideas for the product working group to help with that and get the relevant projects involved with a proposed spec. http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-September/074867.html | 21:38 |
| annegentle | ttx: I wondered about a TC workgroup stood up just for particular x-project efforts/specs | 21:38 |
| bknudson | requiring a team dedicated to getting a x-proj spec makes sense to me -- you don't want the effort to fail just because one person lost interest | 21:39 |
| Rockyg | annegentle, ++ how do you recruit devs for a spec you need help designing/implementing to fit the openstack architecture? | 21:39 |
| ttx | annegentle: I tried to motivate TC members to form one for all the cycle. I can't drive them all | 21:39 |
| jokke_ | ttx: that would work | 21:39 |
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| fungi | i'm unconvinced that waving a royal sceptre at a "working group" and making it official accomplishes much of anything | 21:39 |
| * thingee is not sure if he made his point | 21:39 | |
| annegentle | Rockyg: zactly | 21:39 |
| * thingee or made things worse | 21:39 | |
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| annegentle | ttx: and yes, we'd have to pick and choose (strategically if you will) based on the availability | 21:40 |
| anteaya | thingee: no not worse | 21:40 |
| fungi | thingee: i think people have simply ignored your call to move on | 21:40 |
| thingee | #topic open discussion | 21:40 |
| fungi | perhaps time to just use your #topic powers to force the issue ;) | 21:40 |
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| annegentle | oh shoot sorry thingee I didn't realize you closed it up | 21:40 |
| annegentle | :) | 21:40 |
| ttx | fungi: I wish the meeting chair would have a magic wand to suddenly call all cats attention. I would use that | 21:40 |
| tpatil | I would like to talk about next steps for spec : Return request id to caller | 21:40 |
| tpatil | #link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/156508 | 21:40 |
| tpatil | It got merged today. Thanks everyone again | 21:41 |
| lifeless | ttx: its called kitty-treats | 21:41 |
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| tpatil | Should I reach to individual python-*client PTLs and request them to approve the blueprints? | 21:41 |
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| Rockyg | lifeless, I have a cat who doesn't consider treats to be a treat | 21:41 |
| thingee | tpatil: would really recommend you start looking for liaisons for each project to be the point of contact. | 21:42 |
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| lifeless | Rockyg: more cowbell ? | 21:42 |
| jokke_ | ttx: that should be easy ... op the chair ... IRC has really powerful tools and channel flags to suppress noise ;) | 21:42 |
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| tpatil | thingee: Ok, got it. I will follow up with them then. | 21:42 |
| tpatil | Thank you | 21:42 |
| lifeless | tpatil: I don't think you should need per-project blueprints at this point | 21:42 |
| lifeless | tpatil: you have a cross-project blueprint | 21:42 |
| fungi | yeah, we could get more aggressive with mode +/-v | 21:42 |
| jroll | lifeless: meh, blueprints are nice for tracking at release time though | 21:43 |
| lifeless | tpatil: the whole point of this exercise has been building cross project consensus :) | 21:43 |
| fungi | but that seems a tad draconian at this scale of participation | 21:43 |
| Rockyg | lifeless, tpatil: might want per project for tracking purposes | 21:43 |
| ttx | fungi: ++ | 21:43 |
| jroll | lifeless: not to say it's the right thing to do, just sayin' | 21:43 |
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| jroll | perhaps the liasion can file the BPs | 21:43 |
| jroll | for the respective project | 21:43 |
| lifeless | jroll: I'll leave that to the projects | 21:43 |
| jroll | because it's just paperwork, no need for tpatil to do it all | 21:43 |
| lifeless | jroll: its not a release notes thing in M though | 21:43 |
| lifeless | jroll: exactly | 21:43 |
| Rockyg | Just placeholder bps, but when the are closed, you know another project is aligned | 21:43 |
| fungi | "the chair recognizes the gentlewoman in the blue nick" | 21:43 |
| jroll | lifeless: why wouldn't this be a release notes thing? | 21:43 |
| thingee | bps that link to the cross project spec. It's good for tracking in the individual projects. | 21:43 |
| lifeless | jroll: because reno | 21:44 |
| jroll | reno? | 21:44 |
| lifeless | jroll: I mean, blueprints are now decoupled from release notes | 21:44 |
| ttx | also playing with -v usually results in privmsg hell | 21:44 |
| Rockyg | thingee, ++ xactly | 21:44 |
| lifeless | jroll: we put together an in-project-tree thing to do release notes | 21:44 |
| thingee | the blueprint just needs the link, that's it. simple | 21:44 |
| jroll | lifeless: well, how do you think folks compile release notes? :) | 21:44 |
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| lifeless | jroll: with reno, by writing the section when they propose the code | 21:44 |
| jroll | ooooooooooo | 21:45 |
| lifeless | jroll: yeah, exactly | 21:45 |
| jroll | that's a fantastic idea I never thought of | 21:45 |
| jroll | somehow. | 21:45 |
| jokke_ | are/can we finally mova away from launchpad? :P | 21:45 |
| jokke_ | move | 21:45 |
| ttx | jroll: will be enabled on stable/liberty for now | 21:45 |
| thingee | I would like to bring something to people's attention and specifically on with what jokke_ mentioned and what I hear all the time from people involved in OpenStack in some way.. | 21:45 |
| thingee | Being able to keep up with the Dev ML... | 21:45 |
| thingee | so i know you all read the newsletter weekly and excited for it's distribution that you probably noticed the new section | 21:45 |
| thingee | http://www.openstack.org/blog/2015/09/openstack-community-weekly-newsletter-sept-12-18/ | 21:46 |
| fungi | jokke_: we're getting closer, but the last 10% requires 90% of the effort, or something like that | 21:46 |
| thingee | "What you need to know from the developer’s list" | 21:46 |
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| jroll | fungi: I volunteer ironic to be a maniphest beta tester | 21:46 |
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| jokke_ | #link http://www.openstack.org/blog/2015/09/openstack-community-weekly-newsletter-sept-12-18/ | 21:46 |
| thingee | I'm going to start writing bullet point only quick important info from the dev list | 21:46 |
| tpatil | thingee: I will add bps under each project and start submitting code patches, also update whiteboard with crossproject spec approval | 21:46 |
| Rockyg | jroll, link from maniphest task/issue to crossproject spec would work instead of project bps | 21:47 |
| thingee | would love feedback on that first attempt...but I think if you read that, you'll be pretty much caught up from last week. | 21:47 |
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| ttx | thingee: I like them a lot, but you already know that. | 21:47 |
| fungi | jroll: well, there's maniphest (or some other defect/lifecycle tracker), openstackid (authentication use cases) and also release artifacts (i'm starting work on improving that bit in the upcoming cycle) | 21:47 |
| lifeless | jroll: this thread - http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-August/072385.html | 21:47 |
| jokke_ | thingee: _this_ is why this hour is so valuable! ;) | 21:47 |
| Rockyg | thingee, I used them to update the prod_wg | 21:47 |
| jroll | Rockyg: indeed, reason number 3761429 I'd like to get on maniphest :D | 21:47 |
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| jroll | fungi: yeah, just throwing my name out for when it's ready | 21:48 |
| thingee | you would also know that mordred really hates floating ips | 21:48 |
| lifeless | thingee: so two topics for that | 21:48 |
| thingee | from reading it | 21:48 |
| lifeless | thingee: the constraints stuff seems to be not widely enough socialised | 21:48 |
| mordred | yah | 21:48 |
| fungi | jroll: noted, ironic seems to like to live by the seat of its pants | 21:48 |
| ttx | jroll, Rockyg: so... the trick with Phabricator is that the component that does change tracking is not written yet | 21:48 |
| lifeless | thingee: despite lots of emails trying to do Just THat | 21:48 |
| lifeless | thingee: secondly the release notes thing | 21:48 |
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| ttx | so we'd have to emulate that somehow | 21:48 |
| lifeless | thingee: will be worth socialising | 21:48 |
| mordred | thingee: do I need to rant about them more? | 21:49 |
| jroll | lifeless: yep, I'm aware of the reno stuff, just never occurred to me to update while proposing code :) | 21:49 |
| thingee | mordred: get me a network | 21:49 |
| thingee | lifeless: constraints was already on my list. | 21:49 |
| thingee | :) | 21:49 |
| jokke_ | mordred: I think you need to find new topic for persistent rant unless you were allowed to order HP work laptop :P | 21:49 |
| fungi | mordred: we'll get you a spot on coffee talk and you can rant about floating ips there | 21:50 |
| ttx | jroll: you can track my adventures at https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Phabricator | 21:50 |
| mordred | fungi: awesome | 21:50 |
| Rockyg | thanks, ttx! | 21:50 |
| mordred | jokke_: but why would I stop ranting about these? people till seem to think they're a great default operational model | 21:50 |
| mordred | jokke_: :) | 21:50 |
| jroll | ttx: yep, I've started watching that :) | 21:50 |
| jokke_ | :D | 21:50 |
| jokke_ | mordred: I was more thinking of that it would be as good topic as any | 21:51 |
| thingee | ok anything else? | 21:51 |
| mordred | jokke_: AH! then yes, I'm with you | 21:51 |
| thingee | alriiiight! | 21:51 |
| thingee | #endmeeting | 21:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:51 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Tue Sep 22 21:51:58 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/crossproject/2015/crossproject.2015-09-22-21.01.html | 21:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/crossproject/2015/crossproject.2015-09-22-21.01.txt | 21:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/crossproject/2015/crossproject.2015-09-22-21.01.log.html | 21:52 |
| jroll | thanks for hosting, thingee ! | 21:52 |
| jokke_ | thanks folks! | 21:52 |
| elmiko | thanks thingee | 21:52 |
| lifeless | thanks thingee | 21:52 |
| fungi | thingee: awesome work | 21:52 |
| EmilienM | thanks thingee :) | 21:52 |
| Rockyg | great job! | 21:52 |
| * jokke_ has big boots to step in next week ... 9min short! | 21:52 | |
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