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sgordon#startmeeting telcowg14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct  7 14:00:16 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sgordon. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'telcowg'14:00
sgordon#topic roll call14:00
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cloudonhi14:00
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sgordonbare with me for a second here :)14:00
ShillaSaebihi sgordon14:00
ShillaSaebithought it was the docs meeting time right now14:00
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ShillaSaebiUS docs meeting14:01
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sgordonfun14:01
ShillaSaebiUS: Wednesday, 14:00:00 UTC #openstack-meeting http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=OpenStack+US+Docs+Meeting&iso=20150715T14&p1=1440&ah=114:01
ShillaSaebihttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/DocTeamMeeting14:02
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cloudonSteve - think we're in opentack-meeting-alt14:02
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sgordoncloudon, indeed14:02
sgordon#endmeeting14:02
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Oct  7 14:02:28 2015 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)14:02
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2015/telcowg.2015-10-07-14.00.html14:02
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2015/telcowg.2015-10-07-14.00.txt14:02
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telcowg/2015/telcowg.2015-10-07-14.00.log.html14:02
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ShillaSaebi#startmeeting docteam14:02
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct  7 14:02:59 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ShillaSaebi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:03
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ShillaSaebihello, anyone here for the US docs meeting?14:03
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katomoHi14:03
ShillaSaebihi katomo!14:03
gmolsonHi - I'm new around here. Just listening in.14:03
lwilliams_hi, yes, here listening in on the doc mtg as well.14:04
ShillaSaebiwelcome gmolson :)14:04
katomohi gmolson.14:04
gmolsonthanks!14:04
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ShillaSaebiok we can go ahead and get started14:04
katomohi lwilliams_14:04
ShillaSaebi#topic Action items from the last meeting14:05
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ShillaSaebinone that I know of14:05
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lwilliams_Hi Katomo! I'm here for the first time today too. Thanks.14:05
ShillaSaebi#topic Specs in review14:06
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ShillaSaebi #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/docs-specs,n,z14:06
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ShillaSaebi#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227660/14:07
ShillaSaebikatomo thank you you already looked at that one14:07
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ShillaSaebi#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217711/ (Liberty - Training Labs - naming now sorted out)14:07
ShillaSaebi#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227636/ (Mitaka - Ops Guide RST conversion)14:07
katomoyou are welcome14:07
ShillaSaebi#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/224420/ (Mitaka - DocImpact)14:07
emaganaHi all! Joining late!14:08
ShillaSaebifeel free to comment/review these14:08
ShillaSaebihi emagana!14:08
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ShillaSaebiok so those are all the specs, any questions on those14:08
katomoHi emagana14:08
ShillaSaebi#topic Speciality teams: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/SpecialityTeams14:09
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ShillaSaebi#info HA Guide - Reviewing content. Any help appreciated.14:10
ShillaSaebi#info Install Guides - Need help testing against Liberty as packages are released: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/LibertyDocTesting14:10
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ShillaSaebi#info Networking Guide - Test & review for Liberty updates.14:10
ShillaSaebi#info Security Guide - RST conversion complete, and live.14:10
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ShillaSaebi#info User Guides - Cloud Admin Guide reorg - big moves held over to Mitaka14:10
ShillaSaebi#info Ops/Arch Guides - Please review Mitaka specs. (I pasted the links above)14:11
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ShillaSaebi#info API docs - See status update #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-docs/2015-September/007487.html14:11
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ShillaSaebi#info Config Ref - Need help testing against Liberty as packages are released: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/LibertyDocTesting14:11
ShillaSaebi#info OpenStack Training Labs - Contact Pranav Salunke #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/openstack-labs14:11
emaganaShillaSaebi: I have a few question about the networking guide that I would like to discuss. Let me know when will be a good time14:11
ShillaSaebiok thats all i got on the specialty teams, let me know if there are any reps here from the teams and we can dig deeper14:11
ShillaSaebisure thing emagana14:11
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ShillaSaebinow is fine14:12
emaganaShillaSaebi: Thanks!14:12
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emaganaI want to know how to formalize the networking guide teamr14:12
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emaganateam*14:12
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emaganaI want to have regular IRC meeting with the contributors but having this team as the main support14:13
ShillaSaebii think thats a good idea14:13
emaganabasically, I am asking for direction in how to formalize the networking guide team and also following your guidelines14:13
ShillaSaebiI saw some e-mails flying back and forth with regards to the network guide14:13
ShillaSaebiis there a wiki page for the team14:14
ShillaSaebithere should be I believe14:14
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emaganaYes, nick chase will have a break from leading the logistics of the team and I will be leading now14:14
lwilliams_question on HA review...is that technical revew, editorial review, both?14:14
ShillaSaebi#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/SpecialityTeams14:14
emaganaYes, we have a Wiki for the ToC when we started planing the guide14:14
ShillaSaebi#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/NetworkingGuide14:14
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emagana#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NetworkingGuide/TOC14:15
ShillaSaebiok so what we did with the ops team was send out an email to see who is interested to the docs ML and ops ML14:15
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ShillaSaebinaturally, we got a number of responses and we ended up documenting the names of the ppl interested in helping to the wiki page for the ops guide14:15
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ShillaSaebiand then sent out a doodle request to see what time worked for everyone14:15
emaganaok14:16
lwilliams_is there a wiki for the cloud admin guide reorg plans or is that just getting started?  i'd be interested in finding out more there14:16
ShillaSaebiso now we have biweekly meetings, in our own IRC channel on freenode and we have the info listed on the wiki14:16
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ShillaSaebiin a few weeks we will formalize it more and get it added to meetbot in the formal OpenStack channels14:16
emaganaso, this team is fine if we have a separate IRC meeting, right?14:16
ShillaSaebibut that's pretty much how we formed the team and how we moved forward, yeah emagana that should absolutely be fine14:17
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emaganaIs there core members per guide?14:17
ShillaSaebithe contacts are listed here: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Documentation/SpecialityTeams14:17
emaganaI guess not yet based on the fact that we have all guide in one repo14:17
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ShillaSaebiyeah whatever is in OpenStack-Manuals will have the same core members14:18
emaganaShillaSaebi: Nice, I will add my name there.14:18
ShillaSaebisince it's not a sep repo14:18
ShillaSaebicool thanks emagana14:18
ShillaSaebiand sync up with Matt K. I know he mentioned he's looking for more help14:18
emaganaShillaSaebi: Great, will look our path to cores  ;-)14:18
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ShillaSaebiawesome sounds good14:18
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emaganaShillaSaebi: Ok, I will follow these steps. Thanks.14:18
ShillaSaebilwilliams_ for the HA guide both is fine14:19
ShillaSaebieditorial and technical, any reviews14:19
lwilliams_ok, thanks.14:19
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ShillaSaebiany other questions on the specialty teams?14:19
ShillaSaebialright moving along14:20
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ShillaSaebi#topic Countdown to Liberty14:20
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ShillaSaebi7 days!!! #link http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/launch?iso=20151015T00&p0=1440&msg=OpenStack+Liberty+Launch+Date&font=hand14:20
ShillaSaebi#info Release notes: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty14:20
ShillaSaebi#info Waiting on Install Guide testing to be further along before we branch14:21
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ShillaSaebi#topic Mitaka Design Summit14:21
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ShillaSaebi#info Congrats to Lana! She will remain as the PTL for Mitaka14:21
ShillaSaebi#info We have session allocations for docs now. Feel free to add your suggestions here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Tokyo-DocsSessions14:21
ShillaSaebianyone going to Tokyo?14:21
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katomoI'm going :)14:22
ShillaSaebicool I will be there to14:22
ShillaSaebitoo*14:22
katomooh, see you in tokyo14:23
ShillaSaebiabsolutely!14:23
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ShillaSaebiok anything else on Mitaka or the summit?14:23
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ShillaSaebiif not we can move on...14:23
ShillaSaebi#topic Spotlight bugs14:23
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ShillaSaebiDuring Liberty we spotlighted a total of 24 bugs, exactly half of which have now been closed.14:23
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ShillaSaebiBig shoutout goes to Tom Fifield, Olga Gusarenko, Yusuke Ide, Brian Moss, Deena Cooper, and Alexandra Settle.14:24
ShillaSaebi #info just a reminder to make sure you're having your bugs independently verified and confirmed before you create a patch14:24
ShillaSaebi If it's not triaged, don't fix it!14:25
ShillaSaebiany questions on that?14:25
ShillaSaebiok awesome14:25
ShillaSaebithat concludes most of the meeting for today14:25
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ShillaSaebi#topic Open discussion14:25
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ShillaSaebianything else anyone wants to bring up?14:26
katomoo/14:26
katomoLiberty release notes does not have docs project yet.14:26
katomowho write?14:26
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ShillaSaebihmmm im not sure14:27
ShillaSaebiwe can ask Lana14:27
katomogot it14:27
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ShillaSaebi#action katomo to check w/Lana on the release notes for Liberty (docs)14:29
ShillaSaebiwe can draft something up after this meeting14:29
ShillaSaebigreat question14:29
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ShillaSaebialright if there is nothing else we can go ahead and conclude this meeting14:30
ShillaSaebithank you for joining everyone14:30
lwilliams_thanks!14:30
katomook. thanks, ShillaSaebi, all.14:30
gmolsonthanks ShillaSaebi14:30
ShillaSaebilwilliams_ and gmolson hope to see more of you and welcome again14:30
gmolson:)14:30
ShillaSaebibye!14:30
ShillaSaebi#endmeeting14:31
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SotKAnyone here for the StoryBoard meeting?15:00
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Zarao/15:00
SotK#startmeeting storyboard15:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct  7 15:01:07 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is SotK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:01
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:01
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SotK#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard Agenda15:01
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SotK#topic Announcements15:01
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SotKStoryBoard now allows markdown in descriptions and comments!15:02
Zara\o/15:02
Zaranice work :)15:02
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SotKheh, thanks :)15:02
* SotK doesn't think there are any urgent items beyond "please can we have reviews"15:03
Zarahehe, don't think so15:03
SotK#topic In-Progress Work15:03
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SotK#info SotK is still looking at worklists and boards.15:03
SotK#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202989/ Spec15:03
SotKFinally sent patches!15:03
SotKNext job is sorting out detailed access control for boards and worklists.15:03
SotKAfter that I'll work on automatic worklists.15:03
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Zarayay :)15:03
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SotKOh, also voting is open on that spec until tomorrow IIRC15:03
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Zaraah, thanks for reminding everyone15:04
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ZaraI voted on it earlier but it's been updated since, so I should probably re-vote15:04
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SotK#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient+branch:master+topic:worklists,n,z Worklists and Boards15:05
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SotK#undo15:05
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SotK#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack-infra/storyboard-webclient+branch:master+topic:worklists,n,z Worklists and Boards patches15:05
Zara:)15:05
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Zarasubscriptions speedup patch is finally ready and in gerrit15:06
SotK\o/15:06
Zara#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/223562/15:06
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SotK#info Subscriptions speedup patch is awaiting review15:06
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Zara:) my next step is to look at the irritating 401 error15:07
SotKhooray!15:07
SotKgot anywhere with that yet?15:07
Zaranot really. I tried changing the value that I thought controlled when access tokens expired15:07
Zarafrom 1 hour down to 1 minute, as a test15:08
Zaranew ones continue to last for an hour.15:08
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Zaraso either that's not the value, or there's something else going on with it.... to use the technical term :)15:08
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Zaraetiher way that was just an idea for a workaround.15:08
SotK#info Zara is now working on making the 401 errors less irritating15:09
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Zarathe other things planned were tags and email notifications for subscribed resources, but I can't focus on too many things at once.15:10
ZaraI guess we'll come back to that in a bit15:10
SotKindeed :)15:10
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SotKonto the discussion topic then!15:11
SotK#topic Summit15:11
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Zarahehe, sorry, I noted this about a minute before the meeting15:11
SotKno worries :)15:11
SotKwhat have you got planned so far?15:11
Zaraso, as I mentioned in the infra etherpad, I'd like to run a session to work out priorities for storyboard development15:11
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Zaraideally, get feedback before the summit, then focus on a few key things in a session there.15:12
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Zarabecause the old priorities are very out of date and were written with a much bigger team in mind15:12
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SotKsounds sensible15:12
Zaranot sure about *where* to ask, though15:13
SotKa mail to the infra list perhaps?15:13
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Zara(also not convinced this will take 40 minutes, so we might want to split the space with another project. there were no other workrooms last time I looked!)15:13
Zarainfra workrooms, that is15:13
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Zaraah, there are now a couple more15:14
Zara#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-mitaka-summit-planning15:14
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Zarait might not require a workroom, I just think people may be more candid in person than on a ML. :)15:14
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Zarayeah, I think you're right about the infra list15:15
SotKI suspect they may be too15:15
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ZaraI think that's all about that. might ask for some help drawing up some questions or something, still need to think it through a bit more, really15:16
ZaraI don't want anything long since that's just irritating!15:16
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SotKindeed, something which doesn't require much time to read and reply too is probably most likely to be successful15:17
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Zarathe whole thing is a bit ironic, since storyboard itself is designed for this sort of thing15:18
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Zarabut the mailing list is probably a better place for more detailed feedback, anyway. :)15:19
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ZaraI think that's all (for now)15:19
SotKif you could persuade people in the workroom to write stories of their biggest complaints about storyboard and/or things they want out of a task tracker it would be useful perhaps15:19
SotKok then, moving to open discussion15:20
ZaraI'd rather do that bit first and use the workroom to work out what's feasible.15:20
SotKeven better :)15:20
SotK#topic Open Discussion15:21
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SotKAnything to discuss?15:21
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Zarahmmm...15:21
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* Zara considers plugging her company choir, who currently don't have enough sopranos for the Christmas party15:21
Zaranope, nothing relevant :P15:22
SotK:D15:22
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Zarapersia sometimes comes to these meetings.15:22
Zaramaybe I can convince him to join the choir15:23
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SotKOK then, the meeting ends...15:24
SotK..15:24
SotK.15:24
SotK#endmeeting15:24
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smcginnis#startmeeting Cinder16:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct  7 16:00:07 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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eharneyhi16:00
Swansonhello16:00
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jgregorHello!16:00
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smcginnishemna: Gah!16:00
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e0ne:)16:00
hemna:P16:00
diablo_rojohello :)16:00
smcginnis#topic Announcements16:00
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Swansonhemna, put one off the upright or does that mean something else?16:01
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flip214Swanson: tongue hanging out16:01
smcginnisthingee: Any remaining Liberty announcements you want to cover?16:01
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jungleboyjo/16:02
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smcginnisI can report Liberty-rc2 has been cut. This should be what goes out the door unless something Really Bad happens.16:02
kmartinhello16:02
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smcginnisOther than that I don't have any other announcements.16:03
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smcginnis#topic Stable branches of cinderclient16:03
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smcginnisscottda: Hi16:03
scottdahi16:03
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scottdaSo, we have a stable branch for the cinderclient16:03
scottdai.e stable/kilo16:03
thingeenada16:03
smcginnisthingee: Thanks16:04
scottdaQA noticed that we've features in cinder kilo that are not supported on the cinderclient stable/kilo16:04
scottdahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/python-cinderclient/+bug/150328716:04
openstackLaunchpad bug 1503287 in python-cinderclient "stable/kilo cinder supports incremental backups, client does not" [Undecided,New]16:04
xyangscottda:  :(16:04
mriedemand?16:04
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scottdaI'm told we don't generally backport to stable branches of the cinderclient.16:04
mriedemwe don't16:04
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e0neare we allowed to backport features into the clients?16:04
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mriedemno16:04
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mriedemuse the rest API or a newer client version16:04
hemnawell, we also have replication in the API in Liberty and not in the client.......16:04
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mriedemthe clients are not really tied to branches for the downstream consumers16:04
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mriedemthey are branched for our gate setups16:05
scottdaOk, but as a packager, we ship kilo server with kilo client16:05
smcginnis#info Client branches are mainly to mark the point at that release.16:05
jgriffithhemna: ummm that's VERY intentional16:05
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hemnayes16:05
scottdait's a bit confusing for the user that the client does not support features in the server.16:05
mriedemyou should be packaging a released version that works, not stable/kilo16:05
hemnajgriffith, just pointing it out as a reference fwiw.16:05
scottdafair enough16:05
xyanghemna: incremental CLI change was merged at that time though:(16:05
e0nescottda: +1 from the packages point of view16:05
mriedemaccording to g-r, you should package at least 1.1.0 for kilo https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/stable/kilo/global-requirements.txt#L12216:05
* hemna isn't being helpful16:05
scottdaI was basically wondering if others found this confusing, or if this was an issue or not16:06
mriedemit's not an issue16:06
smcginnis#info mriedem pointed out packaging should be using a released version that works16:06
mriedemthe bug should be marked as won't fix or invalid16:06
smcginnisscottda: Confusing - yes.16:06
smcginnismriedem: Do you know if that is needed for gate reasons?16:06
scottdaand 1.2.? versions are broken due to version discovery16:06
scottdaso we don't want anyone using those16:06
DuncanTmriedem: Why? Having a client that is the one that supports all the features of a release, and no new ones that didn't make the release, seems very useful16:06
scottdaAnd if we package a newer client version, it will have features that are not supported in the server.16:07
DuncanTmriedem: The fact that something is the way it is doesn't mean we shouldn't change it16:07
jgriffithsighh16:07
e0neDuncanT: +1, good point16:07
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mriedemthen don't land the server side feature until the client change is also ready to approve16:08
mriedemstable branches are for backporting bug fixes and cutting patch releases16:08
jgriffithSo I just want to point something out here again... we had an issue where we didn't cut a client for K, that's why this is missing, we screwed up16:08
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jgriffithBUT16:08
mriedemif you backport a feature you have to release that with a minor version bump which generally breaks jobs b/c of g-r on stable16:08
jgriffiththere's no reason you can't/shouldn't provide the client version that works16:08
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jgriffiththe whole point is the client is always supposed to be backward compat16:08
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jgriffithso this shouldn't be an issue16:09
DuncanTjgriffith: True, but if the two branches match, that is easier to do16:09
jgriffithand "missing" things shouldn't show up anyway16:09
mriedemjgriffith: well, within minor versoin range16:09
jgriffithDuncanT: For sure16:09
scottdaYes, OK. It's mostly due to the specific issue with K not getting cut.16:09
mriedemmajor version bump for backward incompatable chagnes, like dropping things or namespace changes16:09
mriedemlike oslo did in all it's libs16:09
jgriffithmriedem: we attempted it for V2 even... but anyway16:09
DuncanTjgriffith: Out discoverability for back compat is very poor at the moment - there's no way for a client to know if some new options are supported by a given server16:09
jgriffithDuncanT: the branches WOULD match had we released a client for Kilo, but we didn't16:10
scottdaOf course, this gets better with microversion support in client and server...16:10
mriedemexcept it doesn't16:10
jgriffithso this is what we have, we should learn from it, remember to  actually release a client with the cinder release16:10
DuncanTjgriffith: Got it. Thanks. So in future we try to make sure we release. Job done16:10
mriedemb/c some clouds don't provide versions16:10
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mriedemsdague: knows more about this16:10
jgriffithmriedem: +116:10
mriedemon the client side with microversions16:10
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scottdaOK, I just wanted to bring this up. Not sure if there's anything else to do.16:11
jgriffithscottda: why not just use a newer version of the client?16:11
scottdaBecause newer client will have unsupported features...16:11
mriedemalso, when you do microversions in the client, don't make the same mistake we did https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230024/16:11
jgriffithscottda: I don't think that's true actually16:11
scottdamriedem: thanks for that tip16:11
jgriffithscottda: it reads from the Cinder api16:12
mriedemscottda: but the user would be opting into using htose right? if the server doesn't support them, you get a 400 or 40416:12
jgriffithscottda: IIRC the "new" features won't show up if they're disabled or not in the API16:12
mriedemyeah, it's up to the cloud you're talking to16:12
scottdayes, but that's a bad experience to get a 40416:12
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smcginnis#info Team needs to make sure to release clients with the same cinder release16:12
DuncanTmriedem: You don't always get a 404 if it's a new attribute in the call16:12
scottdaOK, well I think it's mostly a one-time thing for Kilo16:13
jgriffithsmcginnis: :)16:13
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smcginnisJust making it more visible. ;)16:13
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scottdaYou can get something like:16:13
scottdahttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/3quNg4hO/16:13
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jungleboyjsmcginnis: When is that going to happen for Liberty?16:13
jgriffithjungleboyj: we already did it for L16:13
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* jungleboyj missed that. Ooops.16:14
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jgriffithscottda: umm... wait, I'm confused16:14
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jgriffithscottda: that's an error from the shell16:14
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mriedemyeah16:14
mriedemargparse snafu16:14
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smcginnisjungleboyj: 1.4 went out Sept 11th. Let me know if you know of anything missed after that.16:15
jgriffithscottda: that has nothing to do with APi vs client matching16:15
scottdaRight, the stable/kilo cinderclient doesn't support is-public, but the server does.16:15
jgriffithscottda: and?16:15
scottdaso it's confusing for the user as to why the kilo client doesn't support a documented feature in the server16:15
jungleboyjsmcginnis: Thank you.16:15
smcginnisjungleboyj: Here's what was in it: https://launchpad.net/python-cinderclient/+milestone/1.4.016:16
jgriffithscottda: yea, because our Kilo version of client is actually the Juno version :(16:16
jgriffithbut really... "cinder --help" :)16:16
jgriffithor give them a newer client16:16
jgriffithI think MOST people update their clients anyway16:16
smcginnisSo we missed something and need to move on and not do it again.16:16
scottdaWell, right. So mainly a one-time Kilo thing. So probably much-ado about nothing, but at least people should be aware of this.16:16
smcginnisRecommendation is to use the newer client.16:16
jgriffithbecause the whole point is the client is often pip installed on laptop or whatever regardless of distro bundling16:17
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smcginnisAnd if I understood right, no need to backport to a stable branch because it would cause problems.16:17
scottdaAgreed.16:17
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scottdaThat's fine on the backport. Thanks mriedem for clarifying that.16:17
jgriffithscottda: use curl :)16:17
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scottdahehe16:18
smcginnis#info Backporting to stable client release can cause problems and should not be done.16:18
smcginnisscottda: OK, anything else?16:18
scottdanope. thanks16:18
smcginnisscottda: Thank you.16:18
smcginnis#topic Remove XML APi16:18
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smcginnise0ne: Hey16:18
e0nehi16:18
e0neI just want to confirm that we're on the same page16:18
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DuncanTe0ne: Kill it, with fire IOM16:19
e0ne:)16:19
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smcginnise0ne: You posted on the ML on the 2nd. I was going to bump that thread after a week to make sure it's seen.16:19
geguileoXD16:19
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e0neit's deleted from nova, and tempest 1 year ago16:19
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smcginnisIf no one speaks up I think we're safe removing it.16:19
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eharneythis needs some official deprecation period, right?16:19
mriedemrax is still on icehouse level cinder so don't worry about rax :)16:19
duleke0ne: Had you reached openstack-operators?16:19
e0nedulek: yes16:20
DuncanTThere was a TC level advice that XML can be removed too IIRC16:20
jgriffithmriedem: LOL16:20
hemnasmcginnis, and by "no one" you mean operators right ?16:20
e0neeharney: afair, nova and tempest just deleted it16:20
eharneyi doubt we can rip it out w/o deprecating it for a cycle16:20
smcginnishemna: Right16:20
jgriffitheharney: +116:20
mriedeme0ne: nova deleted the xml api a few release sago16:20
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geguileoeharney: +116:20
hemnadeprecate it now.  and in a release or 2, we'll revisit for removal16:20
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mriedemi think kilo16:20
e0nemriedem: did they do all deprecation things?16:20
mriedemdims: was it kilo when you dropped xml from nova?16:20
mriedeme0ne: i think so16:21
dimsy16:21
smcginnis#info Other projects have remove XML support already (nova)16:21
smcginnisSo to be safe, it's sounding like we should drop the patch to remove it for now.16:22
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dulekIt's silly that deprecation is needed for a feature if we don't even know if it works and we're not testing it.16:22
smcginnisAnd spin a new one that marks it deprecated.16:22
e0newe don't have tests for it16:22
e0neonly unit-tests16:22
sdaguethis is when we deprecated it - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/75439/ for reference16:22
dulekBut rules are made to be obeyed I think. ;)16:22
smcginnisPersonally I would just like to see it removed, especially as e0ne has said it is not at all tested.16:22
smcginnisBut I think dulek makes a good point (and others).16:23
mriedemyeah you should deprecate for at least a release16:23
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mriedemwe deprecated in juno and removed in kilo16:23
e0nesdague: thanks. propable, we must deprecate it before removing16:23
smcginnis#info Deprecate XML in Mitaka, remove in N.16:23
mriedemi doubt anyone is using it though since they'd have to be using json for nova16:23
sdaguemriedem: we deprecated in icehouse16:23
hemnasmcginnis, +116:23
mriedemsdague: so we did16:24
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jungleboyjsmcginnis: +116:24
jungleboyjSeems like that is the 'right' thing to do.16:24
geguileosmcginnis: +116:24
e0nesmcginnis: +1,16:24
duleksmcginnis: +116:24
patrickeast+116:24
smcginnise0ne: Sorry, mind changing that patch to mark the deprecation?16:24
sdaguebut, yeh, the deprecation window is important because people might be using a slice of the code that works, even if it's not tested upstream. That gives them the heads up to get moving to something else.16:24
jungleboyjTechnically it is supposed to be two release right?  But since it is untested, bend the rules?16:24
smcginnisjungleboyj: I think current guidance is one.16:25
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e0nesmcginnis: I'll post a new patch for deprecation16:25
jungleboyjsmcginnis: Ok.  Cool.16:25
sdaguecurrent guidance is one16:25
smcginnise0ne: Thank you16:25
smcginnissdague: Thanks!16:25
smcginnise0ne: OK, anything else on this topic?16:25
mriedemjungleboyj just has problems letting go16:25
e0neno16:25
smcginnismriedem: Hah!16:25
smcginnise0ne: Thank you.16:25
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smcginnis#topic Open discussion16:25
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jgriffithreplication?16:26
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jungleboyjreplication!16:26
jgriffithaorourke: jungleboyj patrickeast around?16:26
aorourkejgriffith, yes16:26
jungleboyjYes.16:26
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patrickeastyea (sort of)16:26
hemna:)16:27
jgriffithSo aorourke pointed out some things, as well as some misunderstanding in how the spec was intended16:27
jgriffithI *think* we worked through most of that yesterday16:27
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jgriffithI'll clean up docs and also get a reference up for people to look at (hopefully next day or so)16:27
jgriffithBUT16:27
jgriffitha bigger problem is some things in V116:27
patrickeastcool, i'll have to go check the logs and catch up16:27
patrickeastin v1?16:27
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jgriffithpatrickeast: yeah... it did some things in the DB on create that I hadn't noticed that make things kinda icky16:28
jgriffithI've also noticed looking at some of the patches up that it seems to be causing some confusion16:28
jgriffithThere's almost a weird mix of the two approaches going on I think16:28
patrickeastgotcha16:28
patrickeastheh thats probably not good16:28
jgriffithanyway... I wanted to gauge interest in removal of the V1 code16:28
SwansonI don't support it so remove it.16:29
jgriffithI can remove it, but need input from jungleboyj / IBM though16:29
xyangjgriffith: so is that code that did things in DB also called by V2?16:29
aorourkejgriffith, remote it :)16:29
jgriffithand what they plan to do16:29
patrickeasti'm for that long term... might be hard to do it super fast in M16:29
jungleboyjSo, remove it in Mitaka?16:29
patrickeastwould we need to offer some kind of upgrade path to v2?16:29
jgriffithxyang: yes, but V2 doesn't make some of the 'assumptions' that v1 unfortunately chose16:29
jgriffithpatrickeast: yes, IBM would16:29
smcginnisjgriffith: Does the v1 stuff get in the way of anything right now?16:30
xyangjgriffith: ok16:30
jgriffithwhich is why I raised the question here ;)16:30
jgriffithsmcginnis: yes16:30
hemnacan IBM just update their drivers to use v2 ?16:30
hemnaand be done w/ it ?16:30
patrickeastjgriffith: hehe yea i guess by 'we' i meant in the v2 implementation, or as a standalone helper kind of deal specific to ibm16:30
smcginnisjgriffith: Oh yeah, db.16:30
jgriffithhemna: it's more complicated than that16:30
* smcginnis pays closer attention.16:30
jgriffiththey need to upgrade as well as deal with a migration strategy16:30
smcginnisjungleboyj: Thoughts on moving to v2?16:30
jungleboyjjgriffith: Vincent is working on moving storwize to V2 in Mitaka.  So, I see now reason to leave V1 there if we can get V2 implemented.16:30
jgriffithThe other option that I can propose... is seperate the V1 stuff into it's own module16:31
jgriffiththat way it's isolated16:31
hemnadoes IBM care about 'upgrade' to v2 ?16:31
hemnavs. just move to it16:31
jgriffithjungleboyj: ok... that's what i needed to hear16:31
smcginnisWhat happened to those 30+ customers that were going to start using the day after the last summit? :)16:31
jgriffithjungleboyj: I can work with Vincent on migration strategies16:31
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jungleboyjjgriffith: Perfect.16:31
jgriffithsmcginnis: yeah... I was going to ask but decided someobdy might think I'm being an A-hole :)16:31
patrickeastslightly off topic, but while we are talking about replication... have you guys looked at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/219900/ ?16:32
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smcginnisjgriffith: I did it for you. :]16:32
xyangjungleboyj: is Vincent also in charge of CG moving forward?16:32
patrickeastwe might want to do something like that earlier before lots of implementations happen16:32
xyangjungleboyj: or is it still taboo?16:32
jungleboyjjgriffith: Vincent is out on vacation.  Can we wait until he gets back before pushing up the removal patch to make sure we don't have additional concerns?16:32
smcginnisSo if IBM is OK with moving to v2 in M, then I would love to clean out the v1 stuff right away.16:32
hemnasmcginnis, +!16:33
jgriffithjungleboyj: yeah, no problem... also we can just revert anything :)16:33
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xyangjungleboyj: I mean taobai16:33
jungleboyjxyang: He has been working on that as well.16:33
jgriffithsmcginnis: jungleboyj let's clean it out, then see what we need to do afterwards16:33
jungleboyjxyang: I wondered what you meant.  No, Tao went to Huawei.16:33
xyangjungleboyj: I see, thanks16:33
jgriffithpatrickeast: I hadn't looked at that patch16:33
jgriffithI will do so shortly16:33
hemnapatrickeast, that patch looks kinda iffy.  automatically allowing things on a volume that's in error state?16:34
jungleboyjjgriffith: Ok, if you are working with Vincent on bridging migration.  I will give him a heads up.16:34
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patrickeastiirc it needs a rebase and some tlc but the gist is still there16:34
jgriffithsounds good16:34
jungleboyjxyang: Vincent is bridging the gap.16:34
patrickeasthemna: some of the details need to be worked out, but there is definitely a problem right now with how the flow works for the volumes16:34
xyangjungleboyj: ok, thanks16:34
patrickeasthemna: its easy to get in an unrecoverable state that requires like manual db tinkering to get out of16:34
jgriffithpatrickeast: it's pretty straight forward, shouldn't be an issue16:34
hemnaI guess reset-state is the hammer that 'fixes' it16:34
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jgriffithpatrickeast: FYI, that's kind of intentional :)16:35
patrickeastjgriffith: yea it makes sense to some extent16:35
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jgriffithOk, think that's all I had16:35
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jgriffithunless somebody else had issues/questions on it16:35
smcginnis#info IBM to look at moving to repl v216:35
patrickeasti was curious if anyone had plans to make tempest tests for it16:36
mriedemdo you guys have a reverts_task_state decorator in the volume manager like nova does in the compute manager?16:36
jungleboyjsmcginnis: Yep, that is the top of our queue right now.16:36
patrickeastwe might step up and do it at least for internally CI testing, but if someone else already planned to we shoudl work together16:36
smcginnis#info If IBM moved to v2 we will remove v1 code16:36
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aorourkejgriffith, I do think failed-over state should allow you to enable replication on it16:36
jgriffithmriedem: no sure if it's "like Novas" but there is a revert task16:36
mriedemjgriffith: and that is on things that go to error state? the problem we've had in the past is like an error/deleting vm/task state combo16:36
eharneydo we know the migration path for people deployed on repl v1?16:37
jgriffithaorourke: yeah, but what does that mean :)16:37
mriedemwhere you couldn't delete the instance b/c it was already 'deleting'16:37
mriedemso you had to do reset-state which is an admin api16:37
aorourkejgriffith, it's up to the driver, right? driver detects if it is in failed-over and decides what to do from there16:37
jgriffitheharney: that's what I was saying we need to work with IBM on (they're the only ones that ever implemented v1)16:37
eharneyjgriffith: ah ok16:37
jungleboyjeharney: We don't have a lot.  jgriffith can work with Vincent on that.16:37
jungleboyjeharney: Taking notes for Vincent now.  He is out for the Chinese holiday at the moment.16:38
jgriffithaorourke: perhaps... question: do you then swap primary an secondary and replicate the other direction?  What if it failed-over becasue primary died?  What if you don't want it to replicated anymore?  What if you can't replicate any more?  What if what if what if16:38
jungleboyjJust FYI, he is moving to the US after the New Year so we will all see him more in real time which is awesome.16:38
jgriffithaorourke: that's why I was pretty strict on the states and didn't get crazy with anything16:39
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jgriffithaorourke: too many options and they're different for almost every backend16:39
aorourkejgriffith, there are definitely multiple options...but it would be nice if it has failed-over to be able to resume replication once you get the primary array back online.16:39
Swansonjgriffith, Coming in with V2 here.  On failover does Nova know to attach to the replication target after failover?16:39
jgriffithI'd much prefer a simple base to start with, then revisit some of these extra things16:39
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jgriffithSwanson: yeah, if you read the docs the idea is you update the provider_id in the db16:40
jgriffithso when an attach call comes in it gets the updated info16:40
smcginnisjgriffith: Is that implemented on the nova side to automatically handle that change? Or it requires admin action?16:40
jgriffithaorourke: I agree, there's a TON of things that would be "nice", but it's always been my argument that we should have a solid foundation that works reliably and solid before we go crazy with options and extras16:40
jgriffithPLEASE!!  I'm begging all of you :)16:41
smcginnis:)16:41
hemnajgriffith, +116:41
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jungleboyjjgriffith: +116:41
hemnaadding all the 'nice' things is why v1 failed16:41
smcginnishemna: +116:41
jgriffithsmcginnis: it's transparent to Nova, EXCEPT in the case of an attached volume, that's just what you have16:41
xyangjgriffith: +116:41
jungleboyjLets get what we have working well.16:41
smcginnisCrawl, walk, run16:41
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jgriffithsmcginnis: +100016:41
aorourkejgriffith, i agree. maybe at a later time we can get that implemented :)16:42
Swansonjgriffith, the problem is that I think I can achieve the same thing with an extra spec and import volume.  So I'd like to know what some of those additional features and use cases are.16:42
jgriffithaorourke: may be sooner than you think... could be M2 :)  Just saying for now, let's get our base versions in for all the various drivers16:42
jgriffithlearn from that before going crazy16:42
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aorourkejgriffith, +116:43
jgriffithSwanson: let's talk after meeting16:43
Swansonjgriffith, k16:43
jgriffithdon't want to take up meeting time if others aren't into this16:43
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patrickeastjgriffith: Swanson: maybe it would be worthwhile to describe some workflow/usecase kind of things for replication somewhere16:43
jgriffithaorourke: and yes, you can do ALL of this with extra specs IMO16:43
jgriffithpatrickeast: yeah.... sounds good16:44
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smcginnispatrickeast: I like that idea.16:44
jgriffithi thought I did that in the spec, but it changed so many times who knows16:44
Swansonpatrickeast, +1.  I need to discuss more internally, too.16:44
jgriffithOh... I had one other topic16:44
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jgriffith#topic extra cinder meetings16:44
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smcginnis#topic extra cinder meetings16:44
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smcginnisMore meetings?16:45
jgriffithI saw something in my backscroll about some folks getting together to discuss/work on some stuff via a hangout meeting16:45
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hemnajgriffith, yah16:45
jgriffithtotally cool, but I would ask that if you do stuff like that you keep it open16:45
hemnasome of us wanted to chat about the compare/swap and locks stuffs16:45
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jgriffithmake sure everybody has a chance to participate16:45
hemnaI was going to post the google hangout in cinder16:46
jgriffithhemna: ahh... yeah, totally cool16:46
hemnaanyone that wants to join can16:46
patrickeastany chance you could record those kind of things?16:46
smcginnisMight be good to post an etherpad link too for those that miss the meeting to review what was captured?16:46
hemnacan you record/post google hangout video conferences ?16:46
jgriffithhemna: some heads up via like announcements in weekly meeting, and use of the ML would be good16:46
hemnajgriffith, ok will do in the future16:46
hemnawe had no intention of making this private16:46
jgriffithhemna: it's important that we keep everything in the open so to speak16:46
jgriffithhemna: I understand, and i didn't think you did16:47
geguileojgriffith: It was decided on last week's meeting16:47
eharneyiirc hangouts has a limit of 10 people or something so it may not be the thing to use for widely broadcast events16:47
jgriffithbut I don't want anybody to ever be able to get the impression16:47
* patrickeast likes to have logs or something to look at if i have a schedule conflict16:47
hemnajgriffith, +116:47
mriedemyou can record hangouts in youtube,16:47
jgriffithgeguileo: oh?16:47
jgriffithwell then never mind16:47
hemnamriedem, ?16:47
mriedemsdague used to do that with the friday bootstrapping hour16:47
mriedemwe've talked about doing that kind of thing in nova too - so the virt driver people can discuss topics in a hangout that is recorded16:47
mriedemb/c we nacked a request to have a design session for virt drivers in tokyo16:48
hemnamriedem, ok I'll see if I can set up the hangout to record to youtube16:48
jgriffithgeguileo: checking the meeting logs16:48
smcginnisThanks hemna16:48
mriedemhemna: maybe informative https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BootstrappingHour/HostCheatSheet16:48
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jungleboyjhemna: Time to start a Cinder Youtube channel?16:50
jgriffithhemnaat this point, it might be beneficial to have a google hangout to hash some of this out?16:50
jgriffithsorry16:50
jgriffiththat's copy/paste from the meeting logs16:50
jungleboyjbooooo16:50
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hemnajungleboyj, +116:50
jungleboyjOh, that was from the logs.  I thought that was a bad joke.16:50
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jgriffithhaha16:51
hemnajust fwiw, the reason we wanted a google hangout is it seems that irc is a difficult place to talk about the complexities in an efficient manner wrt to the locks, etc.16:51
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jgriffithjungleboyj: what... you saying my jokes are always bad?  :)16:51
* jungleboyj didn't say that. :-)16:51
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jgriffith(•‿•)16:51
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smcginnisAnything else? Or should we free up the channel.16:52
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smcginnisLook at jgriffith getting fancy.16:52
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smcginnis:)16:52
jgriffithº╲˚\╭ᴖ_ᴖ╮/˚╱º   Y A Y !16:52
smcginnisDang!16:52
jungleboyj:-)16:52
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scottdaimpressive16:52
jgriffithstupid pet tricks16:52
jungleboyj(-:16:53
smcginnisOK, I think we've lost all productivty here.16:53
smcginnisThanks everyone.16:53
jungleboyjI can smile in two driectios.16:53
jgriffithhaha16:53
smcginnis#endmeeting16:53
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smcginnisGlad that is all captured in a log for posterity.16:53
jungleboyjThanks everyone!16:53
jungleboyjsmcginnis: ++16:53
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jungleboyjsmcginnis: Can't have a Cinder meeting without some levity.16:53
smcginnisNo spiders this time. ;)16:54
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skraynev_#startmeeting heat20:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct  7 20:00:06 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is skraynev_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
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skraynev_#topic rollcall20:00
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stevebaker\o20:00
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prazumovskyHello!20:00
jdobo/20:00
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skraynev_#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282015-10-07_2000_UTC.2920:01
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skraynev_let's start :)20:02
skraynev_#topic Adding items to agenda20:02
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skraynev_some additional items ?20:02
zanebo/20:03
markvannew lbaas v2 spec, would like to discuss how to handle with existing v1 support20:03
markvanfor integration testing20:04
skraynev_markvan: ok. added20:05
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skraynev_move to the next20:05
skraynev_#topic liberty rc2 status/ backporting hot fixes20:05
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stevebaker#link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/liberty-rc220:05
skraynev_stevebaker: thx :)20:05
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skraynev_looks like most part was merged20:05
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stevebakerthere is nothing of consequence left in liberty-rc-potential https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bugs?field.tag=liberty-rc-potential20:06
stevebakerI suppose https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1491773 could be backported, stable gates is good20:06
openstackLaunchpad bug 1491773 in heat "gate fails on test_nested_stack_adopt_fail" [Medium,Fix committed] - Assigned to Angus Salkeld (asalkeld)20:06
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skraynev_stevebaker: +120:06
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stevebakerwe should look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat and see if anything else is worth putting in rc2, but generally we're looking in good shape20:07
skraynev_I plan take a look this one  tomorrow https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/149866020:07
openstackLaunchpad bug 1498660 in heat "Convergence: test_stack_update_replace_with_ip_rollback failure" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Rakesh H S (rh-s)20:07
zanebstevebaker: but we can get the benefit of stable gates any time without waiting for a release, so it's nbd for rc220:08
stevebakerzaneb: true dat20:08
skraynev_AFAIK, we have a rc for all projects and release will happen on the next week20:09
skraynev_need to chat with ttx about it20:09
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zanebwhoa20:10
zanebhttps://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/heat/commit/?id=d07f91615a159663261091e672ce62f90e6ad60720:10
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stevebakeroh, I've put the release notes in, its a bit of a novel :) https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ReleaseNotes/Liberty#OpenStack_Orchestration_.28Heat.2920:10
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zanebdid we seriously backport a DB migration to kilo?20:10
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zanebmaybe it was during the RCs20:11
skraynev_stevebaker: looks nice! thank you ;)20:11
skraynev_zaneb: probably - yes20:11
shardyzaneb: I think it must've been or it wouldn't have been +A'd by ttx?20:11
stevebakerzaneb: the author and committer dates are close20:11
zanebah20:12
zanebtags: removed: kilo-rc-potential20:12
zanebso yes20:12
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skraynev_#topic heat-templates gate fixing progress20:12
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zanebit just wasn't targeted for Liberty, which is why it doesn't say Fix Released20:12
skraynev_update - it was fixed ;)20:12
stevebaker#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bugs?field.tag=gate-failure20:12
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skraynev_I mostly say about job for heat-templates repo20:14
pas-hawell, the current fix for haet-templates gates just ignores the errors in notfound endpoints20:14
stevebakeroh, heat templates. I can't read20:14
shardystevebaker: I might add a bullet to the API additions saying PATCH is now fully implemented, if that's OK with you20:14
skraynev_btw most part of these ^ bugs look like hard-reproducible20:15
stevebakershardy: yeah, do it20:15
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skraynev_shardy: good point ;)20:15
skraynev_pas-ha: do we need another workaround ?20:16
pas-haon the review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227875/20:16
pas-habut shardy had some suggestions I still haven't implemented20:16
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pas-hashardy, I remember we were talking this over on irc, would you mind put your ideas on gerrit?20:17
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shardypas-ha: sure will do20:18
pas-hathanks20:18
skraynev_pas-ha: thank you for the update ;)20:18
pas-hanp20:18
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skraynev_#topic review exception for automation translation commits (+2A)20:19
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pas-halet'em merge and don;t bug us?20:19
stevebakeryep, just like requirements changes, one core can approve20:19
skraynev_it's patches introduced by Bot20:19
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zaneb+120:20
skraynev_stevebaker: for requirements - not totally sure20:20
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stevebakerskraynev_: that core should still check the requirements change for sanity20:20
pas-hayes, I remember several times e.g. shardy new something bad about new lib versions we did not..20:20
shardy+1 but yeah there have very occasionally been bogus requirements bot proposals20:21
skraynev_sometimes it make affect us. I remember situation, when Jason asked me about delay for approve some requirements update patch20:21
shardyso worth paying attention ;)20:21
* shardy remembers proposals from wrong branches20:21
zanebnobody reads the translations anyway though20:21
pas-hadefinitely +1 for translations20:22
skraynev_zaneb: :) it's true ...20:22
shardyYeah it's impossible to effectively review the translations anyway other than checking what files are touched20:22
pas-haI would even suggest keep translations in a separate repo and pull it as submodule20:22
pas-haand let translation team/bot merge to the separate repo at their will20:23
skraynev_pas-ha: could you ask about it in openstack-dev or translation team directly?20:24
pas-haok, will try. I just know many people do not like git submdules20:24
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skraynev_Anyway looks like we come to agreement - one core may approve translation patch20:24
skraynev_pas-ha: hope on you ;)20:25
shardyskraynev_: +120:25
skraynev_#topic mox3 vs mock in unittets20:25
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skraynev_we have this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230300/20:26
pas-hathat's an interesting one. I honestly hate mox, and do not think mox3 is any better in general20:26
* shardy is only just recovering from the mox->mock shift20:26
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pas-haso if this patch fixes some real issue - we should merge it20:26
skraynev_what do you think about attempt for total migration during M?20:27
stevebakerisn't mox3 just a non-abandoned fork of mox which works on python3?20:27
pas-haonly if there are volonteers for that20:27
zanebpas-ha: it's not worse though, is it20:27
skraynev_I know, that it's difficult and boring...20:27
pas-hanot20:27
zanebconverting also makes backports an even bigger giant pain20:28
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pas-hait's only plus it is "owned" by openstack community so that we in principle can fix things faster20:28
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zanebjust throwing that in there20:28
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* zaneb just finished the most painful backport ever last night20:28
jdobi'd be willing to help out with the conversion to mock20:28
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stevebakerif someone wants to convert our tests they should go for it, but I see no issue with doing mox->mox3 in the meantime20:28
zanebstevebaker++20:29
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pas-haon the other hand, patch looks small, so why not20:29
stevebakerpas-ha: exactly20:29
skraynev_stevebaker: maybe we may create bp for this work to make this work more official ?20:29
pas-haif it might help running py34 gate in the future - even better20:29
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pas-hanah, just convert them case-by-case20:30
pas-hathose for a change are more or less independent20:30
shardyusing it sounds fine, provided we're not going to have another giant shift to a different tool20:30
shardyour tests are already a mess of mox/mock mixture20:30
pas-haI doubt it, mock is in stdlib20:31
pas-haof py320:31
stevebakeryeah, mock isn't going away20:31
zanebstevebaker and I just left exactly the same comment at the same time20:31
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shardyOk, cool20:31
stevebakerzaneb: I used less words20:31
zanebyou win this time baker20:32
pas-habtw, if we are going to change tests en masse - should we skip the func gates on pyX jobs?20:32
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pas-haironic does that, also neutron and somebody else..20:32
skraynev_zaneb: lol20:32
pas-hai mean skip if only unit tests are changed20:33
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stevebakerpas-ha: I would -2 large changes, fine grained changes please20:33
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stevebakerpas-ha: oh, I see20:33
pas-hano, I mean if a patch set only touches heat/tests/* - run only pep8 and pyXY20:33
stevebakerpas-ha: another orthogonal issue which would be nice to have20:33
stevebakerpas-ha: same for docs changes20:34
pas-hayes20:34
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skraynev_pas-ha: I ready to +2 such changes :) but suppose, that it will be different repo  :(20:35
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pas-hayes, project-config it is20:35
skraynev_pas-ha: I expected something like that :)20:35
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skraynev_anyway, I agree with it. looks reasonable especially in light of migrating mox to mock20:36
skraynev_so my favorite ...20:37
skraynev_#topic Tokyo summit sessions20:37
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skraynev_we have less sessions, then time slots ;)20:38
skraynev_https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-heat-sessions20:38
skraynev_#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-heat-sessions20:38
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skraynev_https://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/overview/type/heat#.VhV05dSlykp20:38
skraynev_#link https://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/overview/type/heat#.VhV05dSlykp20:38
skraynev_need a brainstorm with raising ideas for discussions :)20:39
skraynev_discussions == sessions20:39
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skraynev_any thought are welcome20:39
skraynev_otherwise it will be convergence Phase * :)20:40
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zaneblol20:41
shardyThe crazy large sahara clusters one is interesting, I'd be interested in hearing more about that ahead of the summit20:41
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skraynev_We may re-sort and split this topic on maximum 2 or 3 sessions20:42
stevebakerA general session on handling large stacks would be good, and we can cover sahara needs in that20:42
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skraynev_but... it's still not enough20:42
shardySome of that sounds similar to issues encountered by TripleO20:42
shardystevebaker: +120:42
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skraynev_stevebaker: is it separate cross-project session ?20:43
shardywith some definition of "large", and perhaps folks can describe their observed performance, heat deployment scale and bottlenecks20:43
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tspatzierI recently discussed the relation between heat and senlin with Qiming. One point is whether senlin could at some point be used transparently as scaling driver underneath current ASG resources. Just as thought, and would need input from Qiming20:43
stevebakerskraynev_: scaling large stacks? That sounds more heat-specific20:43
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shardyskraynev_: I think it's mostly heat specific20:43
shardylarge resource groups, deep nesting etc20:44
shardybut there is the nova can't cope issue referenced as well20:44
shardye.g the batched create thing20:44
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shardytspatzier: +1 revisiting the autoscaling discussion would be good, particularly in the light of the steps towards an internal scaling/group lib made by zaneb and ramishra20:45
skraynev_stevebaker: shardy: is it number 7 ? or you mean add new one ?20:46
shardyand, status of Senlin too, not heard much about that lately20:46
zanebadd a new one20:46
zaneb+120:46
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skraynev_tspatzier: agree with shardy, please add it ;)20:46
shardyskraynev_: Yeah IMO it's a new one, AutoScaling/Group architecture/roadmap20:46
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stevebakerskraynev_: we can add overlapping duplicates now, and you get to de-duplicate into available session slots ;)20:47
tspatzierskraynev_, I'll do20:47
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skraynev_shardy: ok. could you add this one?20:47
shardyskraynev_: added #1420:48
skraynev_stevebaker: yeah. I like this way :)20:48
skraynev_fuh :) now it looks more interesting20:49
skraynev_shardy: thx20:49
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tspatziershardy was quicker than me20:49
shardyDoes hooks and notifications include user-visible warnings?20:49
skraynev_if you have other idea, to not hesitate to add them :)20:49
shardyI was discussing that today in the context of how you can deprecate/rename stack parameters, if you expect them to be widely consumed20:50
shardyI can add another item on that if needed20:50
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* shardy adds & we can merge20:50
skraynev_:)20:50
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skraynev_ok. last one item in agenda20:51
skraynev_#lbaas spec v220:51
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skraynev_markvan: ping20:51
markvanhi, with new lbass v2 resources coming: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230197/20:51
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markvanwas wondering about how to handle the heat integration tests with devstack. It seems that with v2 enabled, v1 has to be disabled.20:52
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markvanso, that would mean current autoscale lb scenario for v1 would need to be skipped when trying to run the lbaas v2 scenario.20:52
markvanTrying to understand how to best handle this type of case20:53
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skraynev_does neutron allow to configure both versions of lbaas plugin in the same time?20:53
skraynev_if not - we can not do it on the gate too20:53
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markvanI did not think so, but I will have to confirm that.  For devstack, it seems the answer is no.20:54
stevebakerskraynev_: if I end up driving a docs and heatclient session then I wouldn't necessarily want to drive the testing one20:54
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pas-hamarkvan, gates are running on devstack as well20:56
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skraynev_stevebaker: sorry, I am not sure, that understood you. could you re-phrase please ?20:56
markvanskraynev_: would it be possible to run a second interation of the integartion test to allow for this new20:56
markvanlbaas v2 environment?20:56
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markvanbasically setup new devstack with v2 enabled and v1 disabled20:57
pas-hanot sure it would be wise to spin up an extra gate job for just couple of tests..20:57
skraynev_markvan: I'd suggest to add experimental job for it.20:57
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stevebakerskraynev_: I'm potentially a Driver for 3 of the sessions and I'm trying to share the love20:58
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skraynev_stevebaker: oh :) np. I am ready to take part of it ;)20:58
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markvanskraynev_: yeah, that would work.   At some point I would think the old lbaas v1 will be deprecated and removed, then devstack will have v2 enabled by default for testing this.20:59
pas-hamarkvan, is it possible to understand the version of lbaas by quering keystone catalog or the API itself?20:59
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skraynev_1 minute left20:59
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markvanpas-ha: I think it's possible by calling into the neutron api, to see if that lbaas v2 extension is enabled.20:59
shardypas-ha: +1 it must be possible to somehow detect that, and conditionally skip20:59
zanebskraynev_: looks like we solved your more-slots-than-sessions problem21:00
stevebakermarkvan: I would make them separate tests, and use the conf file to enable the one that has the enabled endpoint21:00
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skraynev_#endmeeting heat21:00
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zanebnow have opposite problem21:00
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skraynev_zaneb: it's fine21:00
notmynameswift meeting time21:00
notmyname#startmeeting swift21:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct  7 21:00:53 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'swift'21:00
notmynamehello, everyone. who's here for the swift meeting?21:01
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tdasilvahello21:01
m_kazuhiroo\21:01
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notmynamewelcome21:01
notmyname#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift21:01
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notmynamea few things added to the agenda. we'll get to those21:02
notmynamebut first...21:02
notmyname#topic liberty release21:02
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notmynamegood news, everyone! we've got a release!21:02
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joeljwrightyay!21:02
notmyname2.5.0 is tagged21:02
kota_great21:02
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notmynameunless someone finds a bug and comes up with a patch in ...oh... the next 24 hours, that's what we're using for liberty21:03
notmynamethank you everyone for working on it21:03
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notmyname...sorry, kid just walked in the room ;-)21:04
kota_lol21:04
notmynameso as a retrospective on this21:04
notmynameduring the liberty cycle we had 2 releases21:04
notmynamethat's lower than normal21:04
notmynamethe first one, 2.4.0, was in development for 4 months21:04
notmynamethen 2.5.0 was 1 month21:04
notmynameso if you thought it felt rushed, it did :-)21:05
notmynamelots of things conspired to make it a crunch, but I'll take blame for it.21:05
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notmynameI'd like to get better at figuring out how to pace things better and avoid a friday night at midnight review session21:05
notmyname(or saturday am for some)21:06
notmynameso ideas, and all that: more than welcome :-)21:06
notmynameany thoughts or questions about the 2.5.0 release?21:06
mattoliverauThere should be no blame, things happen. All we can do its work together, so nice work all :)21:06
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notmynameI've intentionally not starred any patches yet since the release. go find something interesting or work on the stuff that needs just one more +2 ;-)21:08
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torgomaticyou need a keyboard macro to type out "it's released when it's ready; time-based releases are awful"21:08
torgomaticmaybe bind it to a foot pedal for easy repetition21:08
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mattoliveraulol21:08
notmyname(*or* the stuff that needs one more +2)21:08
notmynamethanks again. I'm actually pretty happy with what's in it. there's some things we know we need to get done, but I'm really happy we solved or mitigated all of the major stuff21:09
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notmynameI'd like to spend some time this week on summit planning, but before we get to that, let's go to hrou and robefran for symlinks21:09
notmyname#topic symlinks21:09
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hrourobefran, do the honors ? : )  Thanks notmyname.21:10
notmynamerobefran: hrou: you added this to the meeting. what's up?21:10
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notmyname#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift_symlinks21:10
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robefranhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/232162/21:10
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robefranjust sumbit patch with prelim symlink implementation and functests21:10
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robefranprimary goal is to create func tests to define details of symlink behaviour21:11
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robefranprelim implementation is just to exercise the func tests21:12
notmynameok21:12
hrouyep, more of just an FYI for folks and to share feedback, feel free to look at the etherpad where we have some open design questions (or the code of course).21:12
robefranexpect lots of changes, refactorization, improvements of the implementation21:12
notmynameok. are there any specific questions you'd like to discuss here today?21:12
robefrannothing specific, we'll work through the etherpad, and the gerrit review21:13
robefranjust wanted to let people know that it is out there21:13
notmynamegreat, thanks21:13
notmynameI'm looking forward to it21:13
notmynamelet's move on then21:13
notmyname#topic encryption21:13
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mattoliverauinteresting, thanks for looking into it21:13
notmynamejrichli: this one is you. take it away21:13
jrichliok, thx21:13
jrichliwe are busy working tasks on the trello board21:14
jrichlione of them in particular is stuck until we get feedback on direction21:14
jrichliConditional GETs on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift_encryption_issues21:14
notmyname#link https://trello.com/b/63l5zQhq/swift-encryption21:14
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notmynamejrichli: that's a lot of words on the etherpad about conditional gets :-)21:15
jrichliplease feel free to add comments - leave your handle.  discuss in IRC, whatever.  hrou is heading that effort21:15
notmynamewhat's the summmary?21:15
jrichlihrou?21:15
hrouThanks jrichli, yep !  Actually acoles was looking to schedule some time to meet either way, but for other folks if you have any thoughts that'd be great21:15
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jrichlibasically, it proposes changes to the encryption of etag21:16
jrichliand this involves maybe deriving keys for the encryption of other things - like body and metadata so that the same key can be used without comprimising security21:16
jrichlihrou - anything to add to that summary?21:16
hrounotmyname, jrichli nope that's perfect, yea the "lots of words" : )  Is because it changes the crypto scheme somewhat, and more because there was a lot of back and forth about other options.21:17
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acolesit looked pretty promising when i first read a few weeks back.21:18
notmynamesounds like we should all (re)read over that etherpad this week21:18
jrichlithat would be great.  There are also a couple other etherpads to read:21:18
notmynamehrou: is there anything specific you need here today in the meeting?21:19
notmynamejrichli: ^21:19
hrounotmyname, acoles I wonder if we should cleanup the etherpad to make that "re-reading" easier for others, there's some stuff we can remove really at this point, though if you'd like to see the history ..21:19
hrounotmyname, nope!21:19
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acoleshrou: looking...21:19
notmynamehrou: yeah, that might help everyone (ie me) understand what the current thinking is21:19
mattoliverau+121:20
acoleshrou: yes!21:20
notmynameok, me and mattoliverau ;-)21:20
hrounotmyname, cool, let us crypto folks talk it over I think we can improve it : )  Make life easier on the rest.21:20
notmynamethanks21:20
jrichlisounds good.  So, there is https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift_production_keymaster_issues for Production Keymaster Discussion21:20
jrichlisince we haven't talked much about what a production keymaster would be like21:20
jrichlihopefully we can nail down some decisions21:20
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jrichlian overview of what IBM has prototyped is at: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift_production_keymaster_overview21:21
notmynamegreat21:21
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notmynameif in whatever cleaned-up version you have, putting those up at the top would be helpful21:21
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mattoliverauphew /me got some reading21:22
jrichli:-p21:22
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hrou: )21:22
jrichlithat's all I got.  thx!21:22
notmynamejrichli: hrou: thanks for driving the encryption stuff21:22
jrichliyw!21:22
notmyname#topic summit prep21:23
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hrouthanks!21:23
notmynamemost of us (I think) will be together in tokyo in a few weeks21:23
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notmynamewe haven't done much by way of planning yet21:23
notmynamewe need to get on that :-)21:23
notmyname#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tokyo-summit-swift21:23
notmynamethere's an etherpad where we can put together ideas of topics to discuss21:23
notmynamehere's what it's going to look like, I'm told, in the sessions21:24
notmynameit will be similar to what we had in the vancouver workrooms, but this time there will be a screen as well21:24
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mattoliverau\o/21:25
notmynameand learning from vancouver, I'd like to group similar topics together so we can be a little more flexible with the time and not have to mentally context switch so quickly21:25
mattoliveraugreat idea21:25
notmynamehere's the schedule21:25
notmyname#link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tpLN5emWhcMmSmkn8z_HuclcjnEPevP77BhdnFN9KCs/pubhtml?gid=5&single=true21:25
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notmynamewe have 2 fishbowl sessions. one of which we'll us for ops feedback21:26
notmynameso we'll have one more for a big audience21:26
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notmynamethen we have 12 workroom sessions21:26
notmynameand then all day friday as free-form21:26
notmynameso basically, we've got all tay wednesday thursday and friday for swift stuff (except for the first 2 slots on thursday21:27
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notmynamealso means that if you've got a talk you're giving or want to see, you'll likely miss something21:27
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notmynameon the etherpad we've got some ideas right now21:28
notmynameor proposals, rather21:28
notmynameand I've put down some ideas at the bottom21:28
notmynamewhat I'd like to see is that next week we have enough to build a schedule21:28
notmynameie to sort them21:28
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notmynamejoeljwright: I really want to spend some more time on swiftclient, so I'd love to work with you on a few topics there21:29
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joeljwrightnotmyname: unfortunately I can't make it :(21:29
notmyname:-(21:29
notmynamethat is unfortunate21:29
notmynameI'd still love your input :-)21:30
joeljwrightI'll do whatever I can21:30
mattoliverauvirtual joeljwright?21:30
notmynamedfg_: one of my ideas was to talk about the hummingbird sync protocol and what's possible there to unify things and make everything better21:30
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joeljwrightmattoliverau: :)21:31
notmynamewe should probably have some EC summary topics21:31
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notmynameif you have an idea, but you htink it might need more than one time slot, indicate that so we can schedule properly21:32
mattoliverauI'm hoping to start some early sharding POC #3 benchmarking this/next week, so hopefuly that will go well. in any case there _should_ be something to talk about.21:32
notmynameany thoughts or questions? will you be able to add some ideas to the list this week?21:32
dfg_notmyname: oh ok. we'd prob have enough material to talk about if you wanted21:33
notmynamemattoliverau: good!21:33
notmynamedfg_: cool21:33
notmynamebasically, you know how we do the "what are we going to talk about" at the beginning of the hackathons? that's what we've got to do on the etherpad this week21:33
tdasilvado we get stickers?21:34
mattoliveraulol21:34
notmynameno stickers. but there's a tshirt21:34
tdasilva+121:34
notmynamehttp://d.not.mn/tshirt_hint.jpg21:34
dfg_well i think some of the things we've seen with hummignbird have been cool and may be interesting even if you weren't running it. so if there's room for it then we could do one21:35
acolesnotmyname: c'mon the hint should be bigger each week :P21:35
notmyname:-)21:35
jrichliacoles +121:35
notmynamedfg_: yeah!21:35
jrichliacoles: you have already seen it!21:35
mattoliverauhow mysterious and exciting :)21:35
notmynamedfg_: the whole idea of "make sure we're all talking the same language on the backend" is a good one. that includes the replication protocol21:35
notmynamedfg_: I'm excited about what' you've found and how it's working for you :-)21:36
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notmynameanything else from anyone on summit planning or prep?21:36
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notmynameok then :-)21:38
notmynamehave a good week. let's talk about ranking the summit topics next week21:38
notmynamethanks for working on swift21:38
notmyname#endmeeting21:38
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