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anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 08:00 |
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openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 20 08:00:24 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 08:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 08:00 |
anteaya | hello | 08:00 |
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anteaya | raise your hand if you are here for the third party meeting | 08:01 |
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anteaya | reminder to folks that this meeting is cancelled next week due to summit | 08:15 |
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anteaya | we don't seem to have a large attendance for this meeting so I will close it now | 08:19 |
anteaya | see you in two weeks from today | 08:19 |
anteaya | thank you | 08:19 |
anteaya | #endmeeting | 08:19 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 20 08:19:43 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:19 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-10-20-08.00.html | 08:19 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-10-20-08.00.txt | 08:19 |
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openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-10-20-08.00.log.html | 08:19 |
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lennyb | btw, http://stackalytics.com/ is down. Is it 'ours' ? | 10:08 |
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alex_xu | #startmeeting nova api | 12:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 20 12:00:09 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is alex_xu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 12:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 12:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova api)" | 12:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova_api' | 12:00 |
alex_xu | who is here today? | 12:00 |
edleafe | o/ | 12:00 |
johnthetubaguy | hi | 12:00 |
Kevin_Zheng | hi | 12:00 |
alex_xu | hello everyone! | 12:00 |
jichen | o/ | 12:00 |
alex_xu | #topic actions from last meeting | 12:01 |
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alex_xu | Action: alex_xu file bug for wadl doc problem, and work with Kevin_Zheng on fix them | 12:01 |
alex_xu | also gmann help on this | 12:01 |
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alex_xu | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-v2.1-api-doc | 12:01 |
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alex_xu | all the problem which I found, already fixed | 12:01 |
alex_xu | also part of them already merged | 12:01 |
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alex_xu | Kevin_Zheng, gmann thanks for fixing | 12:02 |
gmann_ | sorry for late | 12:02 |
Kevin_Zheng | Your welcome | 12:02 |
johnthetubaguy | ah, great stuff | 12:02 |
alex_xu | Action: alex_xu create bp and etherpad to track the concept doc work | 12:02 |
Kevin_Zheng | you're | 12:02 |
alex_xu | #link Action: alex_xu create bp and etherpad to track the concept doc work | 12:02 |
alex_xu | oops | 12:02 |
alex_xu | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/complete-todo-in-api-concept-doc | 12:02 |
alex_xu | ^ I just created the bp | 12:03 |
alex_xu | please free feel to take any todo from api concept doc | 12:03 |
johnthetubaguy | just approved it | 12:03 |
alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: thanks! | 12:03 |
alex_xu | we probably we dicussion how to get more people join those works, we have a lot of doc work in M | 12:04 |
gmann_ | yea | 12:04 |
johnthetubaguy | +1 its a good thing to talk about that the summit | 12:04 |
alex_xu | Action: gmann_ will creae BP and etherpad to track the work merge api sample test and run all the extensions | 12:04 |
johnthetubaguy | we have a low hanging fruit doc, but this is not really that | 12:04 |
gmann_ | did today | 12:04 |
alex_xu | gmann_: how was that? | 12:04 |
gmann_ | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/api-sample-tests-with-all-extensions | 12:04 |
alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yea | 12:04 |
alex_xu | gmann_: cool, thanks | 12:05 |
alex_xu | I remember there already have a patch up | 12:05 |
gmann_ | johnthetubaguy, please aprove that too :) | 12:05 |
gmann_ | i also started base patch on that- https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237400/ | 12:05 |
johnthetubaguy | -1067 nice | 12:05 |
alex_xu | gmann_: cool | 12:06 |
johnthetubaguy | did those removed tests just become redundant I guess? | 12:06 |
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johnthetubaguy | oh, I see now, cools | 12:06 |
gmann_ | johnthetubaguy, yea redundant tests written for separate extensions will be removed | 12:06 |
johnthetubaguy | approved that blueprint | 12:07 |
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gmann_ | and best will be we will get rid of all extension list flag setting for v2 | 12:07 |
alex_xu | I'm thinking how we test bdm or scheduler-hints thing | 12:07 |
gmann_ | johnthetubaguy, Thanks | 12:07 |
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alex_xu | will all bdm and scheduler-hints showing one single servers api sample test? | 12:08 |
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gmann_ | alex_xu, may be , i need to check those | 12:08 |
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alex_xu | gmann_: yea, we only have one sample test, but we need show all of those parameters | 12:08 |
gmann_ | yes | 12:08 |
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alex_xu | ok, cool, let's move on | 12:09 |
gmann_ | for each resource single tests will all param in request response | 12:09 |
alex_xu | Action: johnthetubaguy to sort out etherpads for API session, and send link to alex_xu | 12:09 |
alex_xu | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-api | 12:09 |
alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: thanks for the etherpad | 12:09 |
sdague | hey folks (sorry, was working on etherpads) :) | 12:09 |
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alex_xu | also thanks to sdague, he already list all the things in the etherpad | 12:10 |
gmann_ | alex_xu, johnthetubaguy cool | 12:10 |
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alex_xu | sdague: yea, cool etherpad :) | 12:10 |
gmann_ | Thanks guys, it will be great | 12:10 |
alex_xu | I didn't found anymore I can add to etherpad | 12:10 |
sdague | johnthetubaguy: you happy with that etherpad agenda? | 12:10 |
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alex_xu | #topic Summit API Session | 12:11 |
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sdague | I'll probably delete the little agenda bit at the bottom | 12:11 |
* alex_xu jump the topic directly | 12:11 | |
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johnthetubaguy | sdague: looks close, I keep meaning to loop back around all of those etherpads to see where we are add | 12:11 |
johnthetubaguy | sdague: that was more a consitency thing, I think we just move pre-reading to the top, and the rest is your agenda | 12:11 |
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sdague | johnthetubaguy: ok, I think we're probably not going to get to the feature classification bits yet | 12:11 |
sdague | yeh, that's fine | 12:11 |
johnthetubaguy | sdague: yeah, I am thinking about adding a testing session to replace the final unconference session | 12:12 |
johnthetubaguy | we need to push on testing, thinking about how to make it happen | 12:12 |
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sdague | I also think I found another person in our team that's interested in helping here, including on the docs side. I think trying to recruit more folks to help on docs this cycle will be an important part of this. | 12:12 |
alex_xu | sdague: +1 | 12:13 |
gmann_ | sdague, yea | 12:13 |
alex_xu | looks like we still didn't have microversion test on tempest | 12:13 |
johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: we should both talk to the OSIC people about making this a priority | 12:13 |
oomichi | yeah, right | 12:13 |
johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: that would be a good add, at least one of those | 12:13 |
gmann_ | alex_xu, yea, we have 1 session for that | 12:13 |
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oomichi | and we have qa-session for microversion test | 12:13 |
alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yea | 12:13 |
alex_xu | gmann_: oomichi cool | 12:14 |
gmann_ | I have WIP patch for microversion top bottom and changed testing | 12:14 |
johnthetubaguy | oomichi: ah, OK, can you report back to the nova meetup on the outcome of that maybe? | 12:14 |
oomichi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-api | 12:14 |
oomichi | oops, wrong | 12:14 |
johnthetubaguy | gmann: you mean in tempest or nova? | 12:14 |
oomichi | #link http://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/event/10827a8275cb824c9e2a0fd2ee9c4ae1#.ViYwIm48qaw | 12:14 |
oomichi | in tempest | 12:14 |
gmann_ | johnthetubaguy, on nova | 12:14 |
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johnthetubaguy | gmann: do we have a blueprint for that? | 12:15 |
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gmann_ | as we discussed in Vancouver that nova functional test should tests top bottm an changed version | 12:15 |
gmann_ | not yet, | 12:15 |
johnthetubaguy | gmann: agreed with the direction, just thinking about a specless blueprint to track it | 12:15 |
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gmann_ | sure will do tomorow | 12:15 |
johnthetubaguy | gmann: send me a link, and I can get that approved for you | 12:15 |
gmann_ | johnthetubaguy, sure | 12:15 |
johnthetubaguy | :) | 12:16 |
gmann_ | johnthetubaguy, Thanks | 12:16 |
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sdague | brb, baby waking up. | 12:16 |
gmann_ | sdague, :) | 12:16 |
oomichi | sdague: cool :-) | 12:16 |
alex_xu | #action gmann_ create bp for microversion top bottom and changed testing | 12:16 |
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gmann_ | alex_xu, Thansk. | 12:16 |
alex_xu | sdague: heh, baby is urgent thing | 12:16 |
alex_xu | gmann_: np | 12:16 |
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alex_xu | any more question on summit api session? | 12:17 |
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johnthetubaguy | sounds like a good set of things, thanks for the prep on that | 12:17 |
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alex_xu | something like remove v3 cleanup looks like needn't list at there | 12:18 |
alex_xu | yea, really thanks to sdague | 12:18 |
alex_xu | so let's move on | 12:18 |
alex_xu | #topic API Documentation | 12:18 |
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alex_xu | for generate swagger doc, current we have two poc | 12:19 |
alex_xu | one is generated from nova code base, we already talk about that in last week | 12:19 |
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alex_xu | #link  https://review.openstack.org/233446 | 12:19 |
alex_xu | another one is generate from tempest log, which thanks to oomichi | 12:20 |
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alex_xu | #link  https://review.openstack.org/235092 | 12:20 |
alex_xu | oomichi: ^ do you want to talk about that? | 12:20 |
oomichi | alex_xu: not so many. | 12:20 |
johnthetubaguy | so my thoughts on this stuff are quite nova specific | 12:20 |
johnthetubaguy | look at these two, I like this approach | 12:20 |
johnthetubaguy | (1) generate docs from the code | 12:20 |
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oomichi | alex_xu: maybe it is nice to make the combination of both for covering all cases | 12:21 |
johnthetubaguy | (2) have tests that run to check the docs | 12:21 |
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johnthetubaguy | (3) have a way to check tempest coverage vs the docs | 12:21 |
johnthetubaguy | or something like that | 12:21 |
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oomichi | johnthetubaguy: nice idea | 12:21 |
johnthetubaguy | basically, +1 to what oomichi said about the combo | 12:21 |
alex_xu | oomichi: yea | 12:22 |
gmann_ | yea that will be cool thing | 12:22 |
alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: sounds cool | 12:22 |
oomichi | johnthetubaguy: and it is nice to improve test coverage also for tempset by using both:-) | 12:22 |
johnthetubaguy | I like that you commit the code in nova, and we get some docs and testing automatically in that commit | 12:22 |
gmann_ | i like 3 part more | 12:22 |
sdague | alex_xu: instead of using a decorator, can we use a docstring? | 12:22 |
johnthetubaguy | sdague: +1 | 12:22 |
alex_xu | sdague: yea, we can | 12:22 |
sdague | even if that docstring needs a marker in it like: ::api_doc:: | 12:22 |
alex_xu | sdague: or your mean all the docs, like for input, output, error code? | 12:22 |
sdague | and the chunk after it is what we consider for swagger | 12:23 |
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sdague | I feel like instead of @wsgi.doc | 12:23 |
sdague | in looking at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233446/6/nova/api/openstack/compute/keypairs.py,cm | 12:23 |
johnthetubaguy | sdague: I wonderd about removing the param, use first line as the short title, and the rest as the description | 12:23 |
sdague | johnthetubaguy: yeh, maybe | 12:23 |
alex_xu | sdague: yea, that's one also want to docstr to instead | 12:23 |
alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: +1 | 12:24 |
edleafe | sdague: decorators are easier to understand than some nested docstring. What is the concern with them? | 12:24 |
gmann_ | or how about adding description in request schema | 12:24 |
oomichi | +1 for docstring | 12:24 |
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johnthetubaguy | edleafe: its prose in a decorator, its super hard to read | 12:24 |
oomichi | on my PoC also, docstring is used | 12:24 |
gmann_ | if we have schema for all APIs | 12:24 |
oomichi | for explaining overview of API | 12:24 |
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sdague | edleafe: yeh, being in a decorator means that it's going to push people towards brevity | 12:25 |
edleafe | johnthetubaguy: ah, thanks. Didn't know you were aiming for verbosity | 12:25 |
sdague | being in a docstring is going to allow for people to expand and even add things like examples | 12:25 |
gmann_ | we have have each param description in schema along with general one | 12:25 |
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alex_xu | actually we need doc for request schema, response schema, url params, query params, error status code, success code, currently implement looks mess, all of those thing spread in many place | 12:25 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, I like the params being described in the schmea | 12:26 |
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gmann_ | ye, so we have type and their description all in one place | 12:26 |
johnthetubaguy | so I think it needs to be close to where things are modified | 12:26 |
oomichi | yes, it is nice to write the explanation of each param at close place | 12:26 |
johnthetubaguy | when you change the param, you change the schema, so that feels OK | 12:26 |
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oomichi | johnthetubaguy: +1, nice to maintain the code | 12:27 |
alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yea, that is good point, also think about that in the beginning | 12:27 |
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johnthetubaguy | but honestly, I think we just need to pick one and try it, and evolve it as we go | 12:27 |
gmann_ | yea | 12:27 |
alex_xu | cool | 12:27 |
sdague | so, personally, I think we should focus on the docs close to the code. The schema should just be enforcement and not description. | 12:27 |
johnthetubaguy | just, yeah, my preference is close to where you normally make modifications, for the best hope of folks noticing the need for changing the doc | 12:27 |
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sdague | anyway - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233446/6/nova/api/openstack/compute/keypairs.py,cm if it used docstrings instead of decorators would be super useful I think | 12:28 |
gmann_ | sdague, but param type and thir checking on schema side than code | 12:28 |
johnthetubaguy | sdague: I am thinking the schema is close enough, as we probably change the schema if the docs need to change, but yeah, if it could get in the code, then maybe thats better | 12:29 |
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oomichi | sdague: what "not description" mean? | 12:29 |
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oomichi | johnthetubaguy: yeah, schema is nice place to write the description for each param | 12:29 |
sdague | oomichi: describing each parameter inside the schema seems like the wrong places to do that | 12:29 |
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oomichi | sdague: discussion point | 12:30 |
sdague | because the schema is really the test | 12:30 |
sdague | in some ways | 12:30 |
sdague | you want to describe your intent elsewhere | 12:30 |
sdague | and then the schema enforces it | 12:30 |
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johnthetubaguy | well the schema drives the param checking code, the response schema is much less clear | 12:30 |
sdague | if you only describe your intent in the enforcement layer, you tend to slip up and change enforcement an intent | 12:31 |
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johnthetubaguy | hmm, true | 12:31 |
gmann_ | sdague, schema has all their type range etc defined | 12:31 |
oomichi | sdague: uhm, difficult | 12:31 |
sdague | gmann_: right, sure, and that's fine | 12:31 |
johnthetubaguy | anyways, I think this is one we need to see in code first | 12:31 |
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oomichi | sdague: most info of each param is written in schema | 12:32 |
oomichi | gmann_: yeah | 12:32 |
johnthetubaguy | need it to look non-horrible, ideally | 12:32 |
sdague | yeh, anyway, lets look at how it all comes together | 12:32 |
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sdague | so more poc | 12:32 |
sdague | and see what each stage looks like | 12:32 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah | 12:32 |
alex_xu | ok, cool | 12:32 |
gmann_ | yea | 12:32 |
oomichi | nice step | 12:32 |
johnthetubaguy | lets layer on the param bits, see how it looks | 12:32 |
sdague | because it's important that the generated docs feel coherent | 12:32 |
johnthetubaguy | sdague: +1 | 12:32 |
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sdague | and it's important the improving the docs is straight forward | 12:32 |
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sdague | because if it's editing in a million places, no one will improve it | 12:33 |
oomichi | sdague: big +1 | 12:33 |
sdague | we want to grow a class of contributors that can improve our docs without understanding our code | 12:33 |
oomichi | nice api doc will make us avoid wrong API usages | 12:33 |
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alex_xu | sdague: +1 | 12:33 |
johnthetubaguy | agreed, certainly for clarity, etc | 12:33 |
gmann_ | sdague, yup | 12:33 |
alex_xu | ok, cool, so let's move on? | 12:34 |
gmann_ | and can implement tests with those doc without code reading which i always do :( | 12:34 |
sdague | yep | 12:34 |
johnthetubaguy | gmann_: +1 | 12:34 |
alex_xu | heh | 12:34 |
alex_xu | #topic Remove project_id from URL | 12:34 |
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alex_xu | this is another important work | 12:34 |
alex_xu | sdague: do you want to talk about it? | 12:34 |
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alex_xu | I added this into the agenda, thinking of this is something should tracked by api team | 12:35 |
sdague | alex_xu: sure | 12:35 |
sdague | so in support of the service catalog tng work, I spent last week trying to see what's required to remove project_id from nova | 12:36 |
sdague | it's not too bad | 12:36 |
sdague | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/removing-project-id-in-nova-urls | 12:36 |
* johnthetubaguy wonders if we should rename to making project_id optional in the URL | 12:36 | |
sdague | that was my working document | 12:36 |
sdague | johnthetubaguy: yeh, that's fair, it's making it optional | 12:36 |
alex_xu | sdague: cool | 12:36 |
gmann_ | sdague, and we need to support url with project_id too by ignoring them ? or m missing something | 12:36 |
alex_xu | we aren't removing url with new microversion? | 12:37 |
sdague | the only place we care about project_id, mostly, is during one enforcement check | 12:37 |
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johnthetubaguy | alex_xu: so I think we need to backport this change to previous versions, but thats maybe a different discussion | 12:37 |
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sdague | https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/81fbb34e2544b26ae72f7eee3841b4024d22896f/nova/api/openstack/wsgi.py#L813-L821 | 12:38 |
alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: ok | 12:38 |
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sdague | yeh, we have to figure out our version signaling on this | 12:38 |
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oomichi | easy to implement it with ProjectMapper instead of PlainMapper | 12:38 |
gmann_ | because response contain those in namespace or links etc | 12:38 |
sdague | my feeling right now is that we should add a microversion to indicate that project_id is optional from here on out | 12:38 |
johnthetubaguy | sdague: +1 my gut says the same thing | 12:39 |
sdague | that's one of the reasons the patch is Do Not Merge | 12:39 |
gmann_ | sdague, +1 for version to publish | 12:39 |
oomichi | sdague: if specified microversion doesn't support it but client doesn't pass project-id, nova will return 400? | 12:39 |
johnthetubaguy | the other thing, is we probably don't want to remove this in a microversion, because of all the folks using the old service catalog entries, as folks transition | 12:40 |
sdague | oomichi: no | 12:40 |
johnthetubaguy | oomichi: its just optional, I think | 12:40 |
oomichi | sdague: the microversion is just for publishing | 12:40 |
sdague | oomichi: or at least that wasn't my intent | 12:40 |
sdague | because this involves changing the mapper | 12:40 |
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sdague | so it's kind of hard to do it runtime | 12:40 |
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oomichi | sdague: yeah, right | 12:40 |
oomichi | sdague: from implemenation side | 12:41 |
sdague | yeh | 12:41 |
alex_xu | just for publishing is good idea | 12:41 |
sdague | it's a compromise, but unless we want to massively redo Routes, I don't think we can get perfect microversion behavior | 12:41 |
johnthetubaguy | so its something we though about doing in v3 right, but dropped it, making it optional/ignored seems like a better solution | 12:41 |
sdague | so just using the microversion as the signaling element seemed fine | 12:41 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah | 12:41 |
sdague | johnthetubaguy: yeh, it was not going to be there in v3 | 12:42 |
oomichi | sdague: yeah, my small concern is that that doesn't seems perfect for microversion | 12:42 |
johnthetubaguy | so thinking about signalling, I guess the big signal is actually in the service catalog? | 12:42 |
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sdague | johnthetubaguy: yes | 12:42 |
sdague | except, so many applications hard code past the service catalog | 12:43 |
sdague | so we can't just depend on that | 12:43 |
gmann_ | hummm | 12:43 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, +1 | 12:43 |
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johnthetubaguy | many signals good | 12:43 |
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sdague | the first session of the design summit is a double session on the service catalog tng work | 12:44 |
sdague | I'm mostly going to leave this patch in the DNM state until after summit | 12:44 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, +1 | 12:44 |
sdague | and just make sure we have broad agreement on the big plan | 12:44 |
alex_xu | agree | 12:44 |
sdague | project_ids being optional is an early bit that projects will need to do | 12:44 |
edleafe | yeah, I'd like to hear all the concerns | 12:44 |
sdague | so assuming no giant roadblocks, we should be able to clean this up and merge by M-1 | 12:45 |
sdague | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-service-catalog-session is the etherpad for service catalog session | 12:45 |
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alex_xu | cool | 12:46 |
johnthetubaguy | so for context, we use Repose in front of our API, I think there will need to be changes to drop the project_id in the URL | 12:46 |
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sdague | johnthetubaguy: right, probably | 12:46 |
gmann_ | yea, in links it is added | 12:46 |
oomichi | sdague: do we have a nova-spec for that now? | 12:47 |
johnthetubaguy | but honestly, I consider that all a bit evil, but its a heads up | 12:47 |
johnthetubaguy | repose that is | 12:47 |
sdague | oomichi: no nova-spec, we're going to use the openstack spec + nova blueprint | 12:47 |
oomichi | sdague: ah, I see. | 12:47 |
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oomichi | sdague: nice combination | 12:47 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, cross project consistency FTW | 12:47 |
alex_xu | cool, if no more question, looks it's time to move on | 12:48 |
sdague | sounds good | 12:48 |
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alex_xu | #topic API futures - specs | 12:48 |
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alex_xu | anyone people want to bring up? | 12:48 |
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johnthetubaguy | did you all see the spec etherpad? | 12:49 |
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johnthetubaguy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-spec-review-tracking | 12:49 |
johnthetubaguy | there is an API section in there | 12:49 |
alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: yea | 12:49 |
alex_xu | ok let me bring up one | 12:49 |
johnthetubaguy | feel free to use that in ways you all find useful | 12:49 |
gmann_ | johnthetubaguy, cool | 12:49 |
alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: ok | 12:49 |
alex_xu | #link #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/227274/1 | 12:49 |
alex_xu | This spec is going to correct a lot of status code. Like 200->204, 200->201 and 200->202 | 12:50 |
oomichi | johnthetubaguy: oh, thanks | 12:50 |
alex_xu | The question do we welcome this kind of change? I feel only 200->202 useful. | 12:50 |
alex_xu | other fix is more about consistent | 12:50 |
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alex_xu | if we think the fix is ok, And do we think it is ok fix them all in one microversion? | 12:50 |
oomichi | alex_xu: that is based on api-wg guideline? | 12:50 |
alex_xu | oomichi: yea | 12:50 |
oomichi | alex_xu: cool :) | 12:50 |
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gmann_ | alex_xu, if changing all then this seems huge change so increase in x? | 12:51 |
gmann_ | for x.y | 12:51 |
sdague | I feel like we should bring all the API wg changes in in one microversion | 12:51 |
alex_xu | gmann_: yea, one microversion change a lot of apis | 12:51 |
sdague | and it should include the new header as well | 12:51 |
gmann_ | sdague, +1 that will be great | 12:51 |
johnthetubaguy | sdague: its tempting | 12:51 |
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johnthetubaguy | so the thing that worries me, is making it harder for existing users to use new features | 12:52 |
sdague | but, before we do that, we should make sure we've got reasonable way of showing documentation for microversions | 12:52 |
gmann_ | johnthetubaguy, it avoids having lot of microversion for same kinda fix | 12:52 |
johnthetubaguy | any its very marginal benifit | 12:52 |
sdague | johnthetubaguy: right, I don't think it's a huge rush | 12:52 |
johnthetubaguy | sdague: yeah, actually thats a very good way of look at it | 12:52 |
sdague | lets make sure we have a docs before / after story that looks good first | 12:52 |
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johnthetubaguy | so I think its something we should push until next cycle | 12:53 |
sdague | johnthetubaguy: yeh, I'm fine with that | 12:53 |
johnthetubaguy | what do you all think? | 12:53 |
sdague | or late this cycle if the doc display is all sorted | 12:53 |
alex_xu | sounds ok for me | 12:53 |
sdague | but doing it before then is going to mostly create confusion | 12:53 |
gmann_ | sounds good after doc thing | 12:53 |
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gmann_ | sdague, johnthetubaguy anytime we gong to change x in microversion? | 12:54 |
sdague | gmann_: I don't think so | 12:54 |
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sdague | I never believed X was meant to be changed | 12:55 |
gmann_ | because we have not shorted out the y arting point of any x | 12:55 |
alex_xu | yea | 12:55 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, I don't think we defined what that would mean | 12:55 |
sdague | it will be 2.y forever | 12:55 |
gmann_ | arting -> starting | 12:55 |
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johnthetubaguy | sdague: +1 | 12:55 |
gmann_ | yea, my feeling too | 12:55 |
oomichi | sdague: yeah, that is | 12:55 |
sdague | people kept confusing this for semver :) it's not, it's negotiation. | 12:55 |
oomichi | sdague: that is common misunderstand on current microversion anyway | 12:56 |
alex_xu | another one | 12:56 |
gmann_ | :) | 12:56 |
johnthetubaguy | right, its a different concept | 12:56 |
alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/209917/ | 12:56 |
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alex_xu | it's add project_id and user_id to server-group response | 12:56 |
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gmann_ | alex_xu, ahh | 12:57 |
alex_xu | the only think I don't like is only show project_id and user_id when admin context is used | 12:57 |
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alex_xu | I think we should just show those two attrs in all the times | 12:57 |
alex_xu | and everything is simple | 12:57 |
johnthetubaguy | +1 | 12:57 |
alex_xu | what would you think guys? | 12:57 |
gmann_ | will it be more useful in create response / | 12:57 |
Kevin_Zheng | it will make no harm I guess | 12:57 |
johnthetubaguy | do we show user_id for server, I can't remember now? | 12:58 |
oomichi | alex_xu: +1 | 12:58 |
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gmann_ | in create we do not show | 12:58 |
edleafe | alex_xu: +1 | 12:58 |
alex_xu | johnthetubaguy, I remember yes, at least nothing just for admin user | 12:58 |
oomichi | alex_xu: nice to make consistent API and there is not demerit for doing that I guess | 12:58 |
sdague | alex_xu: yeh, showing it all the time seems the right call | 12:58 |
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alex_xu | ok, cool, thanks guys for having agreement | 12:58 |
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alex_xu | so I have enough more today | 12:59 |
Kevin_Zheng | cool | 12:59 |
alex_xu | oops, I have nothing more today | 12:59 |
sdague | :) | 12:59 |
annegentle | I had a question | 12:59 |
ccarmack | alex_xu: there was some talk of getting more people involved in API doc work. I'd like to get involved. | 12:59 |
johnthetubaguy | cool, almost out of time | 12:59 |
annegentle | sorry I'm laste | 12:59 |
annegentle | late | 12:59 |
alex_xu | annegentle: :) | 12:59 |
annegentle | yeah ccarmack! | 12:59 |
alex_xu | #topic open | 12:59 |
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sdague | ccarmack: awesome | 12:59 |
sdague | annegentle: what's up? | 12:59 |
alex_xu | ccarmack: cool | 12:59 |
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ccarmack | annegentle, sdague: I could do PoC or spec implemenation | 13:00 |
annegentle | alex_xu: any way to use the verbage from the existing api doc? I put that in my review and hadn't gone back to see your response yet | 13:00 |
alex_xu | sorry, annegentle ccarmack, it's time to close the meeting :( | 13:00 |
ccarmack | can we discuss on -nova? | 13:00 |
johnthetubaguy | lets jump into #openstack-nova quickly | 13:00 |
sdague | ok, let's go to #openstack-nova for follow ups | 13:00 |
annegentle | sure | 13:00 |
sdague | yes | 13:00 |
alex_xu | #endmeeting | 13:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 20 13:00:44 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2015/nova_api.2015-10-20-12.00.html | 13:00 |
alex_xu | thanks all! | 13:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2015/nova_api.2015-10-20-12.00.txt | 13:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_api/2015/nova_api.2015-10-20-12.00.log.html | 13:00 |
edleafe | thanks alex_xu! | 13:00 |
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Qiming | #startmeeting senlin | 13:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 20 13:01:14 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Qiming. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'senlin' | 13:01 |
Qiming | hello guys | 13:01 |
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yanyanhu | hi | 13:01 |
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jruano | hello | 13:01 |
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Qiming | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/SenlinAgenda#Weekly_Senlin_.28Clustering.29_meeting | 13:01 |
yanyanhu | I guess haiwei is on the way back hometown | 13:01 |
Qiming | please revise agenda if you have things to add | 13:01 |
Qiming | yes, heard that | 13:02 |
Qiming | feel sorry about him | 13:02 |
yanyanhu | yes | 13:02 |
Qiming | don't know if lixinhui will join today | 13:02 |
Qiming | anyway, let's get started | 13:02 |
yanyanhu | ok | 13:03 |
Qiming | #topic health policy and its relationship to scaling policy | 13:03 |
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Qiming | so lixinhui talked to me this afternoon, she is looking into that policy | 13:03 |
yanyanhu | hi, elynn | 13:03 |
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yanyanhu | great | 13:04 |
elynn | Hi | 13:04 |
Qiming | it is a requirement from some production teams as well | 13:04 |
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Qiming | I have got quite some complaints that resourcegroup cannot handle resource failures | 13:04 |
yanyanhu | yes, I think their thought about 'desired_capacity' and 'current size' is understandbale | 13:05 |
Qiming | we had a demo last year on Paris summit, showing how VM HA can be done | 13:05 |
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Qiming | the prototype was done using Heat, but the solution doesn't fall into Heat's scope | 13:06 |
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Qiming | so we have had a sample policy here: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/senlin/tree/examples/policies/health_policy_poll.yaml | 13:06 |
Qiming | and a WIP code here: http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/senlin/tree/senlin/policies/health_policy.py | 13:07 |
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Qiming | my colleague helped write that code but didn't finish it before switching to other jobs | 13:08 |
Qiming | glad lixinhui is picking this up | 13:08 |
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yanyanhu | yes | 13:08 |
yanyanhu | this workitem has been there for about half year I think :) | 13:08 |
Qiming | definitely, she will need help | 13:08 |
yanyanhu | yes | 13:09 |
Qiming | one thing is about how to trigger recovery actions | 13:09 |
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yanyanhu | yes, I think how to perform the health check for each node is the key issue we need to figure out | 13:10 |
Qiming | maybe we need to define a do_recover() method for the base Profile class for an implementation to decide how to recover itself | 13:10 |
yanyanhu | I found a decorator of 'periodic_task' is added | 13:10 |
yanyanhu | agree | 13:10 |
Qiming | well, failure detection is not a great challenge | 13:10 |
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Qiming | we have three options at least: 1) poll the node status periodically for clusters attached with a health policy | 13:11 |
Qiming | 2) poll the LB health monitor if a cluster has a lb policy attached | 13:11 |
Qiming | 3) listen to lifecycle events on message queue | 13:11 |
Qiming | the first, very naive, very generic solution is to have the health_manager to call profile.do_check() | 13:12 |
Qiming | so we can know if the object (stack, server) is still active | 13:12 |
Qiming | that could serve the base line | 13:12 |
Qiming | I am proposing it to be the "base line" because it introduces no dependencies to other services | 13:13 |
yanyanhu | yes, these three choices should be available | 13:14 |
yanyanhu | yes | 13:14 |
yanyanhu | but I guess we may still need to rely on some APIs provided by other services to help decide the status of node | 13:15 |
Qiming | we can figure out better/advanced solutions/strategies when we gain some experiences from this naive version | 13:15 |
Qiming | I believe most objects exposed have a 'status' property | 13:15 |
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Qiming | we may need to figure out how to handle those objects who do not support status check | 13:17 |
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yanyanhu | or sometimes, the status may not be able to reflect the real availability of node | 13:17 |
Qiming | but ... if they don't have a status for checking, we cannot be sure we can "recover" it, right? | 13:17 |
Qiming | yanyanhu, that is very true | 13:18 |
yanyanhu | yea, this is the problem... | 13:18 |
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Qiming | so one of the key design is to have a profile to implement a do_recover() method | 13:18 |
Qiming | and somehow make that a builtin action to support | 13:18 |
yanyanhu | yes | 13:19 |
Qiming | then expose it with a webhook | 13:19 |
Qiming | we throw the question back to users | 13:19 |
jruano | that sounds doable as a first attempt | 13:19 |
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yanyanhu | I think we can start from the simplest case | 13:20 |
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Qiming | I'll talk to lixinhui about this | 13:20 |
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yanyanhu | great | 13:20 |
Qiming | yes, simple case can help us learn a lot | 13:20 |
Qiming | another question asked is | 13:20 |
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Qiming | how do we deal with CLUSTER_DEL_NODES/CLUSTER_SCALE_IN actions | 13:21 |
Qiming | if the actions are not changing the desired_capability | 13:21 |
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yanyanhu | I think that depends on our definition of cluster_del_nodes and cluster_scale_in | 13:22 |
Qiming | maybe a better question to ask is how do we deal with the "conflict" between health policy and scaling policy | 13:22 |
yanyanhu | maybe we just define them as actions which will reduce the desired_capacity of cluster :) | 13:22 |
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yanyanhu | oh | 13:23 |
Qiming | previously, when I was studying the amazon design | 13:23 |
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Qiming | somewhere they have an option to temporarily disable the health policy | 13:23 |
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Qiming | I believe that is a feature proposed out of hard lessons learned | 13:24 |
yanyanhu | that means health policy is the most powerful one once it is enabled :) | 13:24 |
Qiming | yes | 13:24 |
yanyanhu | I think this is reasonable | 13:24 |
yanyanhu | since availability should have higher priority than performance | 13:25 |
yanyanhu | or cost | 13:25 |
Qiming | temporarily disable health policy was considered when we design cluster_policy table | 13:25 |
Qiming | the 'enabled' field in that table is for this very purpose | 13:25 |
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yanyanhu | yes | 13:25 |
Qiming | we don't know what operators want to do | 13:26 |
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Qiming | they may have a good reason to do this, for a manual scaling or something | 13:26 |
Qiming | so .. refer to this code: https://github.com/openstack/senlin/blob/master/senlin/engine/actions/cluster_action.py#L672-L699 | 13:26 |
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Qiming | it is the logic of CLUSTER_UPDATE_POLICY action | 13:27 |
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Qiming | if we move this code to be a method of a cluster | 13:27 |
Qiming | it can be shared | 13:27 |
yanyanhu | agree | 13:28 |
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Qiming | in policy checkings, we can always temporarily disable the health policy (if any) and reenable it in the pre_op and post_op calls | 13:29 |
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Qiming | a byproduct of this is that the actions code are greatly simplified | 13:30 |
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yanyanhu | hmm, that's true | 13:30 |
Qiming | let's think about it | 13:31 |
yanyanhu | ok | 13:31 |
Qiming | #topic heat resource type support | 13:31 |
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Qiming | oh, elynn dropped | 13:32 |
Qiming | two links on the agenda | 13:32 |
yanyanhu | lets wait him for a while | 13:32 |
yanyanhu | I think the current spec looks good | 13:32 |
Qiming | first is the spec proposal in heat | 13:32 |
Qiming | yes, already +2'ed | 13:33 |
yanyanhu | only possible question is about the spec property of profile | 13:33 |
Qiming | however, we need to think beyond that | 13:33 |
Qiming | yes? | 13:33 |
yanyanhu | since it is really different from current design about template | 13:33 |
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Qiming | yes, I will try my best to convince heat team that we are doing the right thing | 13:33 |
yanyanhu | it could take a while for other people to understand it | 13:33 |
Qiming | I think heat cores can grasp the idea quickly | 13:34 |
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yanyanhu | sure, what we need to do is decribing it clearly :) | 13:34 |
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Qiming | it's lesson learned when the convergence proposal was discussed | 13:34 |
yanyanhu | and correctly | 13:34 |
yanyanhu | yes | 13:34 |
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Qiming | basically, you have 'template', 'environment', 'parameters' and 'files' together to determine the 'desired_state' | 13:35 |
Qiming | all these four inputs should be consolidated into a single "spec" for defining a stack | 13:35 |
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yanyanhu | yea, this is what spec is for | 13:36 |
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Qiming | or else we cannot know what a stack should look like | 13:37 |
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yanyanhu | Another possible issue is about senlinclient plugin for heat | 13:37 |
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Qiming | yes, senlinclient has some big issues | 13:38 |
yanyanhu | do we need to further refactor the implmentation of python-senlinclient to make this work easier? | 13:38 |
Qiming | one thing is about the interfacing with openstacksdk | 13:38 |
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Qiming | yes, that is something we need to do | 13:38 |
Qiming | especially for profile create | 13:39 |
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Qiming | here are some preprocessing logic there | 13:39 |
Qiming | for parsing of the get_file function | 13:39 |
yanyanhu | yes, I also think so | 13:39 |
Qiming | when invoked from other services (including senlin-dashboard), those logics are skipped | 13:39 |
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elynn | yes, and also needed by heat resource properties. | 13:40 |
elynn | Just lost my connection on my way home... | 13:41 |
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Qiming | we will need to fix the problem from ourside first | 13:41 |
yanyanhu | so it seems that these get_file operations need to be done in senlinclient | 13:41 |
yanyanhu | on behalf of heatclient | 13:41 |
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Qiming | right, we have dependencies to heatclient because of that extra parsing logic | 13:41 |
Qiming | #action file a bug on profile_create skipping template parsing | 13:42 |
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yanyanhu | I think we need fix this issue before elynn can start his work :) | 13:42 |
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Qiming | yes, it is high priority | 13:43 |
Qiming | regarding interaction with Heat, we have more questions to answer | 13:43 |
Qiming | #link http://sched.co/4QbQ | 13:43 |
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Qiming | it would be a good and difficult discussion | 13:44 |
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yanyanhu | yes, really hope this session won't conflict with the demo on booth | 13:44 |
elynn | yes, what are you going to talk about in summit? | 13:44 |
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Qiming | elynn, question to whom? | 13:45 |
yanyanhu | or maybe I can ask other guy to help me stay at the booth if so | 13:45 |
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elynn | questins about ASG in heat | 13:45 |
Qiming | it is a design summit working session | 13:45 |
Qiming | people sit around a table for discussion | 13:46 |
yanyanhu | elynn, you really should join the design session :) | 13:46 |
elynn | I did hope.. | 13:46 |
yanyanhu | I joined once in 2013 hongkong summit, very interestring | 13:46 |
Qiming | elynn, don't worry, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-heat-autoscaling | 13:46 |
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Qiming | this will be the etherpad | 13:47 |
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Qiming | we need to think beyond current spec | 13:47 |
Qiming | how autoscaling would be supported once cluster is in | 13:48 |
elynn | I try to implement ResourceGroup and found that it's not very easy to do that, so many properties and situation need to be consider. like index_var, rolling_update, removal_policy. | 13:48 |
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Qiming | right | 13:48 |
elynn | All these questions might throw out at that session. Need to be careful... | 13:48 |
Qiming | rolling_update and removal_policy can be modeled as senlin policies | 13:49 |
Qiming | just to make heat user's life easier | 13:49 |
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Qiming | index_var is difficult | 13:49 |
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Qiming | it is completely a heat thing | 13:49 |
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Qiming | so I think it can be still implemented in heat | 13:50 |
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yanyanhu | what is index_var for? | 13:50 |
elynn | Why are you saying that index_var is difficult? Since senlin can set the names of nodes in cluster, is it possible to change that logic to support index_var? | 13:50 |
yanyanhu | oh, I see | 13:51 |
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Qiming | elynn, I mean the logic should live in heat, not passed to senlin for parsing | 13:51 |
yanyanhu | I recalled we used before | 13:51 |
Qiming | it is mainly used for naming things for easier reference later | 13:51 |
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Qiming | the key is to translate the 'resource_def' property into a profile | 13:52 |
yanyanhu | Qiming, I think I understand elynn's concern about index_var | 13:52 |
yanyanhu | yes | 13:52 |
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Qiming | and make the future update behave as what users expected | 13:53 |
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elynn | If that logic live in heat, if I delete a node from cluster manually, heat might not aware of that. And will cause NotFound error or something else... | 13:53 |
Qiming | if the cluster is created from a heat stack | 13:53 |
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Qiming | heat is responsible for that | 13:53 |
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Qiming | just like you will delete a nova server secretly, :) | 13:54 |
Qiming | elynn, feel free to call a f2f discussion this week if you have questions | 13:54 |
Qiming | #topic summit meetup planning | 13:55 |
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elynn | yes, I will, after I investigate more deeper. | 13:55 |
Qiming | I haven't look at the logistics yet | 13:55 |
Qiming | room is very limited | 13:55 |
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Qiming | need to spend some time on this | 13:56 |
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Qiming | so please watch mailinglist | 13:56 |
yanyanhu | hi, elynn, I think a node should not be deleted manually using senlin interface in that case | 13:56 |
yanyanhu | ok | 13:56 |
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Qiming | will annouce time/location to meet when we have a plan | 13:56 |
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Qiming | anything else? | 13:57 |
yanyanhu | nope | 13:57 |
jruano | nothing from me | 13:57 |
elynn | not from me | 13:57 |
Qiming | I need to talk to sdk guys for code review | 13:57 |
Qiming | it is stagnating | 13:58 |
Qiming | need to know what's the plan next | 13:58 |
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yanyanhu | yes, we have dependency on it | 13:58 |
Qiming | it is blocking a lot of things from us | 13:58 |
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Qiming | btw, next weekly meeting will be cancelled | 13:59 |
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Qiming | talk to you in two weeks, :) | 13:59 |
Qiming | thanks for joining | 13:59 |
Qiming | #endmeeting | 13:59 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 20 13:59:27 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:59 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2015/senlin.2015-10-20-13.01.html | 13:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2015/senlin.2015-10-20-13.01.txt | 13:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/senlin/2015/senlin.2015-10-20-13.01.log.html | 13:59 |
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Sam-I-Am | mestery: moo | 13:59 |
armax | ajo, ihrachys, rossella_s, mestery, kevinbenton, emagana ping | 13:59 |
* regXboi already went for the ddp | 13:59 | |
vikram | hi | 14:00 |
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rossella_s | hi | 14:00 |
* Sam-I-Am is pre-coffeeing | 14:00 | |
ajo | hi armax | 14:00 |
ajo | o/ | 14:00 |
mestery | regXboi: Diamond Dallas Page? | 14:00 |
hichihara | hi | 14:00 |
armax | #startmeeting networking | 14:00 |
ihrachys | \o | 14:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 20 14:00:12 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
yamamoto | hi | 14:00 |
hoangcx | hi | 14:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 14:00 |
HenryG | o/ | 14:00 |
regXboi | mestery: diet dr pepper | 14:00 |
armax | morning/afternoon/evening folks | 14:00 |
dtantsur | o/ | 14:00 |
emagana | hello all! | 14:00 |
mestery | regXboi: Makes more sense ;) | 14:00 |
jckasper | hi | 14:00 |
haleyb | hi | 14:00 |
regXboi | I second Sam-I-Am: moo | 14:00 |
ajo | thanks for the ping, I may need to run around 16:45, depending on how my "backup" for a task works.. | 14:00 |
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ajo | xx:45 :) | 14:00 |
emagana | already had coffee... ready to go | 14:00 |
Sam-I-Am | emagana: and you're an hour earlier than me | 14:01 |
Sam-I-Am | impressive | 14:01 |
rtheis | hi | 14:01 |
armax | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings Agenda | 14:01 |
ajo | thanks for those early "wake-ups" | 14:01 |
pc_m | hi | 14:01 |
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armax | #topic Announcements | 14:01 |
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emagana | Sam-I-Am: yeah.. I can't believe that I am already at work | 14:01 |
salv-orlando | aloha | 14:01 |
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armax | we all know this is the week before the summit | 14:01 |
obondarev_ | hi | 14:01 |
jroll | \o | 14:01 |
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johnbelamaric | hi | 14:01 |
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kevinbenton | o/ | 14:01 |
russellb | hi | 14:01 |
armax | as a reminder, we’ll cancel the next two meetings | 14:01 |
armax | hi all | 14:02 |
emagana | yeah.. Tokyo! | 14:02 |
mestery | hi | 14:02 |
rkukura | hi | 14:02 |
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* mestery expects some karaoke in Tokyo | 14:02 | |
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ajo | enjoy tokio, I'll miss hanging out with you guys&gals | 14:02 |
mestery | ajo: You're not gonna be there? #sadpanda | 14:02 |
Sam-I-Am | ajo: i'm not going either | 14:02 |
* regXboi wonders if mestery can sing... | 14:02 | |
mestery | I can't sing, so be warned regXboi | 14:03 |
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armax | talking about the summit | 14:03 |
Sam-I-Am | regXboi: depends on booze levels? | 14:03 |
* regXboi isn't worried - he won't be there either | 14:03 | |
armax | there’s a social event being organized | 14:03 |
armax | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-October/077108.html | 14:03 |
Sam-I-Am | regXboi: we can have our own denver summit | 14:03 |
regXboi | Sam-I-Am: that's very likely :) | 14:03 |
ajo | mestery, sadly I can't this year, but you will have to bear with me next one ;D | 14:03 |
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armax | please sign up if you intend to join | 14:03 |
emagana | Sam-I-Am & ajo: What? We will miss you guys | 14:03 |
jroll | dtantsur: well that escalated quickly | 14:03 |
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Sam-I-Am | emagana: i'll be there in spirit | 14:03 |
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* rossella_s already signed uo | 14:04 | |
* regXboi updates calendar to skip next two meetings | 14:04 | |
* mestery registered too | 14:04 | |
yamamoto | it will be thursday 19:00-. amotoki made a reservation. further details will be announced on ML. | 14:04 |
emagana | Sam-I-Am: spirits dont drink with us | 14:04 |
* ihrachys registered long time ago | 14:04 | |
mestery | thanks for organizing yamamoto and amotoki! | 14:04 |
Sam-I-Am | emagana: but you drink spirits | 14:04 |
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rossella_s | thanks yamamoto and amotoki | 14:04 |
salv-orlando | emagana: technically we drink spirits | 14:04 |
scheuran | hi | 14:04 |
armax | the summit is also a week away | 14:04 |
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armax | #link http://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/overview/type/neutron | 14:04 |
emagana | salv-orlando: good point.. | 14:04 |
armax | we have a nearly final draft of the schedule | 14:05 |
armax | I am working with the session chairs to polish it up | 14:05 |
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rossella_s | great :) | 14:05 |
armax | thanks to mestery, dougwig, carl_baldwin, kevinbenton, ihrachys, sc68cal, xgerman, cathy, gsagie, et al | 14:05 |
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armax | oh and by the way... | 14:06 |
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armax | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/7.0.0 | 14:06 |
armax | Liberty is OUT! | 14:06 |
Sam-I-Am | yay | 14:06 |
emagana | sc68cal: you are there already! | 14:06 |
russellb | yay | 14:06 |
ihrachys | meh. | 14:06 |
ihrachys | :) | 14:06 |
Sam-I-Am | so is the install guide, with linux bridge :) | 14:06 |
mestery | yay! | 14:06 |
ihrachys | all the fun is about master. | 14:06 |
emagana | armax: great job! as well as the rest of the team | 14:06 |
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mestery | ihrachys: lol :) | 14:07 |
armax | emagana: the job was mestery's | 14:07 |
armax | :) | 14:07 |
mestery | Well | 14:07 |
mestery | It was everyone's, I merely herded some cats ;) | 14:07 |
armax | or a team effort | 14:07 |
Sam-I-Am | its all a mestery to me how it works | 14:07 |
mestery | armax knows this well by now I suspect :) | 14:07 |
armax | let’s put it that way | 14:07 |
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emagana | #neutron: great team people! | 14:07 |
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armax | before we dive in to the next section | 14:07 |
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ajo | \o/ :D | 14:07 |
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armax | I want to remind that we have revised some of our processes | 14:08 |
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armax | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/blueprints.html | 14:08 |
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armax | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/bugs.html | 14:08 |
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armax | please familiarize yourself with them and evangelize the gospel to your proselytes | 14:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | heh | 14:10 |
ihrachys | aye My Lord | 14:10 |
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ajo | ack :) | 14:10 |
emagana | armax: wise words! | 14:10 |
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ajo | lol | 14:10 |
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mestery | Seriously, nice work on cleaning all this up armax. | 14:11 |
armax | mestery: hopefully it’ll make a difference | 14:11 |
mestery | armax: ++ | 14:11 |
armax | in fact, this brings me to the next section | 14:11 |
armax | of the meeting | 14:11 |
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armax | #topic Blueprints | 14:11 |
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armax | regXboi: not yet ;) | 14:11 |
armax | but please do | 14:11 |
armax | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/mitaka-1 | 14:12 |
armax | we have some blueprints optmistically targeted for M1 | 14:12 |
armax | which is roughly a month and half away | 14:12 |
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mestery | yikes | 14:12 |
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Sam-I-Am | nice to see linuxbridge in the list :) | 14:12 |
armax | one of the process changes we identified was to identify an approver per blueprint | 14:13 |
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Sam-I-Am | regXboi: where's your dvr-fix-all-the-things? :) | 14:13 |
armax | the approver will pair up with the assignee of the blueprint to work closely together to get the blueprint throught the motions | 14:13 |
regXboi | Sam-I-Am: you think I'm crazy enough to add a BP? :) | 14:13 |
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Sam-I-Am | regXboi: you're crazy enough to dvr | 14:13 |
armax | Sam-I-Am: that’ll happen | 14:13 |
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regXboi | Sam-I-Am: no, that's just lunacy :) | 14:13 |
armax | Sam-I-Am: we only need to tackle regXboi into a corner | 14:14 |
Sam-I-Am | challenge accepted | 14:14 |
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ihrachys | armax: how do we assign ourselves? | 14:14 |
armax | now…most of the M1 blueprints have no approver | 14:14 |
armax | and some may even need the assignee to be revised | 14:14 |
armax | ihrachys: as an approver? | 14:14 |
ihrachys | armax: yes. I don't have the option to assign myself in LP | 14:15 |
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* regXboi has seen evidence of assignee revision already | 14:15 | |
ihrachys | I would take that one https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/ml2-lb-ratelimit-support | 14:15 |
armax | ihrachys: done | 14:15 |
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armax | ihrachys: only members of the neutron-drivers team can | 14:15 |
armax | #link https://launchpad.net/~neutron-drivers | 14:15 |
Sam-I-Am | ihrachys: hey there :) | 14:16 |
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ihrachys | armax: aye. I believe I need to get into gerrit group for that. :) | 14:16 |
Sam-I-Am | ihrachys: these things will need some docs | 14:16 |
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rossella_s | armax https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/restructure-l2-agent should also be targeted for M1, right? | 14:16 |
ihrachys | Sam-I-Am: define 'these things' | 14:16 |
emagana | Sam-I-Am: +2 | 14:16 |
armax | rossella_s: let me make a note for it | 14:16 |
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Sam-I-Am | lb+qos | 14:16 |
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mestery | rossella_s: +1 to that | 14:16 |
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ihrachys | Sam-I-Am: ok, sure. let's touch bases later out of meeting context. | 14:17 |
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salv-orlando | armax: only members of the neutron-drivers team can assign people to blueprints? | 14:17 |
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armax | rossella_s: who do you think could be a good approver for the work? | 14:17 |
armax | salv-orlando: it’s my understanding, yes | 14:17 |
rossella_s | armax, I think yamamoto could be a good approver, he reviewed most of the patches already | 14:17 |
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armax | rossella_s: ok, yamamoto you around? | 14:18 |
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yamamoto | hi | 14:18 |
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salv-orlando | armax: it must be one of those policies that I have not read ;) Sounds a bit too restrictive to me, but I also understand why it's being doner | 14:18 |
salv-orlando | done | 14:18 |
yamamoto | i'm not sure what's approver's job | 14:18 |
armax | yamamoto: can you pair up with rossella_s blueprint on restructure l2 agent ? | 14:18 |
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armax | yamamoto: please review the policy change above | 14:18 |
* ajo needs to review those too | 14:18 | |
armax | yamamoto: if you are still in doubt come and talk to me | 14:18 |
armax | salv-orlando: feedback is welcome | 14:19 |
armax | salv-orlando: if you keep it to yourself it’s hardly useful | 14:19 |
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armax | salv-orlando: besides if you haven’t read it, how can you claim that it is restrictive :)? | 14:19 |
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armax | there are a few other blueprints that need a custiodian angel | 14:20 |
yamamoto | armax: i got it. please assign me. | 14:20 |
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armax | another word for approver :) | 14:20 |
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armax | today I feel very religious for no obvious reason | 14:21 |
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ajo | :) | 14:21 |
armax | Sam-I-Am: don’t be shy | 14:21 |
Sam-I-Am | this explains a lot of neutron things | 14:21 |
* regXboi wonders if armax is taking the crusade | 14:21 | |
armax | I’ll go over the current backlog and preaching people to join the mass | 14:22 |
armax | how about taht? | 14:22 |
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rossella_s | armax, I can take https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/vlan-aware-vms | 14:22 |
armax | you want to take over as approver, correct? | 14:22 |
rossella_s | armax, yes, you were looking for approvers right? :P | 14:23 |
armax | yes | 14:23 |
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armax | I need to see whether the code submitters are still around | 14:23 |
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gongysh | I can be code submitter. :) | 14:24 |
armax | this BP: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/get-me-a-network | 14:24 |
armax | does not have an approver | 14:24 |
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salv-orlando | armax: re your last message referencing me... you know I have a long history of talking about stuff I know nothing about | 14:24 |
armax | we need to pair up with haleyb | 14:24 |
Sam-I-Am | an important one imo | 14:24 |
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Sam-I-Am | at least from a usability and docs perspective :) | 14:25 |
* haleyb is listening | 14:25 | |
armax | and this work has already languished for too long | 14:25 |
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armax | haleyb: pls, scroll back a little | 14:25 |
armax | any takers for helping haleyb move this along? | 14:26 |
ihrachys | re get-me-a-network, do we have patches up? why is it Slow progress? | 14:26 |
armax | ihrachys: yes we do | 14:26 |
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armax | ihrachys: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/233306/ | 14:26 |
haleyb | ihrachys: yes, initial patch, but needs work | 14:26 |
ihrachys | that will be a single patch? | 14:26 |
armax | most likely it won’t | 14:26 |
armax | anyone interested? | 14:27 |
armax | russellb: ? hint hint | 14:27 |
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Sam-I-Am | should assign sc68cal :) | 14:27 |
HenryG | armax: I can assist, maybe with russellb? | 14:27 |
mestery | armax: I can volunteer to help move those along as well. | 14:27 |
ihrachys | not sure I should opt-in while I already have one, but if everyone is so shy or busy, I can consider it. | 14:27 |
ihrachys | ok cool, I step back | 14:27 |
mestery | lol :) | 14:27 |
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salv-orlando | armax: what roles do you need for this blueprint? reviewers, developers, nit-pickers? | 14:27 |
russellb | O.O | 14:28 |
russellb | sure! | 14:28 |
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armax | I think we should be ok so long as we keep the number of bps assigned to a few | 14:28 |
russellb | what did i agree to | 14:28 |
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Sam-I-Am | russellb: all the things | 14:28 |
russellb | cool, that works | 14:28 |
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armax | salv-orlando: all of the above? | 14:28 |
haleyb | buying first round at summit | 14:28 |
russellb | ok! beers on me | 14:28 |
armax | salv-orlando: mostly code-review | 14:28 |
armax | salv-orlando: and make sure that any road blocker is flagged promptly | 14:28 |
Sam-I-Am | blueprint assignments sound like fantasty football drafts | 14:29 |
armax | russellb: thanks russellb | 14:29 |
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armax | obviously anyone should feel free to help | 14:29 |
russellb | yeah, i can help with that post-summit probably | 14:29 |
russellb | this week is kind of nuts already | 14:29 |
salv-orlando | armax: make sense. I can assist with reviews - I hope I still remember how this stuff works | 14:29 |
armax | salv-orlando: any other blueprint you fell like taking? | 14:29 |
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armax | salv-orlando: there are a few which have no approver | 14:29 |
Sam-I-Am | armax: should edgar and/or i somehow tag ourselves to track these bps from a docs perspective? | 14:29 |
Sam-I-Am | they shouldnt get completed without docs, imo | 14:30 |
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* ihrachys notes that would help if LP would show assigned approvers on the milestone page | 14:30 | |
armax | ihrachys: I think there’s a way | 14:30 |
armax | it’s not great | 14:30 |
armax | ihrachys: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+assignments | 14:30 |
armax | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+assignments | 14:30 |
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ajo | I see this one has no approver: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/vm-without-l3-address | 14:31 |
ajo | I could watch over it | 14:31 |
armax | Sam-I-Am: definitely, I would expect the approver to work with you to see where the doc gaps are | 14:31 |
carl_baldwin | Any way to search for blueprints by approver (e.g. myself)? | 14:31 |
armax | ajo: nice | 14:31 |
Sam-I-Am | armax: cool | 14:31 |
salv-orlando | armax: I think I can assist with https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/address-scopes | 14:31 |
* carl_baldwin seeing any advanced search option for Bps | 14:32 | |
carl_baldwin | *net seeing | 14:32 |
ihrachys | carl_baldwin: f.e. https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~brian-haley/+specs?role=approver | 14:32 |
emagana | armax: I found hard to believe that the plan of working closely by magic will work | 14:32 |
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carl_baldwin | ihrachys: Thanks! | 14:32 |
armax | emagana: we don’t know if we don’t try | 14:32 |
emagana | armax: we need to have a plan to really enforce it.. otherwise Sam-I-Am and I will be just chasing people | 14:32 |
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armax | we can talk about that in more detail offline | 14:33 |
emagana | armax: We have been under this model for several releases.. Do not know really what is different this time.. | 14:33 |
emagana | armax: sounds good. | 14:33 |
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kevinbenton | emagana: did you read the new details in the blueprint process? | 14:33 |
Sam-I-Am | keep me in the loop on that one | 14:33 |
armax | carl_baldwin: btw the link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+assignments | 14:33 |
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emagana | Sam-I-Am: yes! | 14:33 |
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armax | shows a huge list of bp's | 14:33 |
kevinbenton | emagana: oh, for docs. I see | 14:34 |
emagana | kevinbenton: yes! | 14:34 |
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salv-orlando | armax: I still have not read those revised blueprint policies, but were you asking if I could be approver for some blueprint? If non-cores can be trusted in that role, I am ok for taking care of the address scopes bp | 14:34 |
emagana | kevinbenton: and yes again! ;-) | 14:34 |
mestery | That link has all the BPs I believe, right armax? | 14:34 |
armax | when we manage to cut it down to the bps only for the most recent series we should be able to have a better view of the workload | 14:34 |
armax | salv-orlando: surely, you’re a trusted resource | 14:34 |
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armax | currently the address-scope one is assigned to carl_baldwin | 14:35 |
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armax | as approver I mean | 14:35 |
carl_baldwin | salv-orlando: core emeritus | 14:35 |
emagana | carl_baldwin: indeed! | 14:35 |
salv-orlando | armax: it seems to me there's no approver there | 14:35 |
salv-orlando | carl_baldwin is the assignee | 14:36 |
armax | salv-orlando: I must have removed it | 14:36 |
armax | salv-orlando: ok we’re good | 14:36 |
armax | I | 14:36 |
armax | I’ll go over the list after the meeting and see if it’s sane | 14:36 |
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armax | and reach out to people for help | 14:36 |
armax | reach read as plea | 14:36 |
ajo | I see this one needs a nova spec too: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/vm-without-l3-address | 14:36 |
ajo | I have pointed it out so the authors make sure it's submitted before nova deadlines | 14:36 |
ajo | yamahata__ ^ | 14:37 |
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armax | ajo: good point | 14:37 |
armax | ok, let’s move on for now | 14:37 |
armax | we’ll come back to this | 14:37 |
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armax | #topic Bugs | 14:37 |
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armax | regXboi: how did it go? | 14:38 |
regXboi | I handed over the swatter to markmcclain yesterday | 14:38 |
armax | regXboi: ok | 14:38 |
armax | bugs are piling up | 14:38 |
armax | and that’s no surprise | 14:38 |
regXboi | armax: pretty well - the bug process docs *seem* to work | 14:38 |
ihrachys | were we systematic about triaging this week? | 14:38 |
armax | we have some stats on the meeting wiki | 14:38 |
armax | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings#Bugs | 14:38 |
regXboi | ihrachys: there were a couple I had issues with and so left incomplete | 14:39 |
ajo | are we an effective team? | 14:39 |
regXboi | ajo: that remains to be seen | 14:39 |
ajo | regXboi: beware of the drone trying to kill you otherwise (oblivion) | 14:39 |
armax | we managed to see and acknowledge most of the bugs | 14:39 |
armax | but we don’t fix fast enough | 14:40 |
ihrachys | alternatively, we don't review fast enough | 14:40 |
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regXboi | I believe we are acknowledging - I think the next step is for folks to be looking at tags | 14:40 |
armax | ihrachys: or we’re simply not good enough :) | 14:40 |
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regXboi | and trying to push their tags forward | 14:41 |
ihrachys | it's also worth excluding rfe bugs from the stats since they are kinda special | 14:41 |
armax | ihrachys: fixes need too many rounds to get in the right shape | 14:41 |
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armax | ihrachys: agreed | 14:41 |
regXboi | ihrachys: +1 | 14:41 |
armax | especially this time of year | 14:41 |
ajo | yup | 14:41 |
gsagie | maybe next sprint/virtual sprint can be about bug fixing | 14:41 |
ihrachys | exactly. and they don't get fixes in a week. | 14:41 |
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armax | I have captureed a couple of interesting links on the wiki page | 14:41 |
armax | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.tag=gate-failure | 14:42 |
armax | i.e. gate failures | 14:42 |
armax | confirmed gate failures | 14:42 |
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armax | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=needs-attention | 14:42 |
armax | bugs that would need a second look | 14:42 |
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armax | a sheet of data pulled out of Launchpad: | 14:43 |
armax | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1evlDp4tU6aRzBM8VdLjA68MnHBQ_g6lBQ0zWAWX1Gt0/edit#gid=305713688 | 14:43 |
armax | the latter should help doing better filtering in lieu of Launchpad capabilities | 14:43 |
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armax | we have deputies for the next couple of weeks | 14:44 |
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armax | thanks to markmclain and mestery for stepping up | 14:44 |
armax | anything else? | 14:45 |
ihrachys | I want to raise a bug | 14:45 |
ihrachys | we broke flat networking in L | 14:45 |
ihrachys | the fix is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237586/ | 14:45 |
armax | ihrachys: ouch | 14:45 |
mestery | #sadpanda | 14:45 |
ihrachys | among other things, it breaks default RDO installer undercloud that uses flat | 14:45 |
claudiub | I'm also having trouble with VLAN networking in L. | 14:45 |
ihrachys | but anyway. there is one thing about it | 14:46 |
ajo | armax, add me after mestery :) | 14:46 |
ihrachys | we have two fixes on the bug | 14:46 |
mestery | ihrachys: I'll target that bug to Liberty as well | 14:46 |
ajo | ok, I can add myself, sorry, doing | 14:46 |
* carl_baldwin ready to step up and find a week, armax | 14:46 | |
Sam-I-Am | the install guide uses flat, but its linuxbridge | 14:46 |
armax | I have seen this in the past | 14:46 |
Sam-I-Am | this is only ovs? | 14:46 |
armax | emagana looked into it too | 14:46 |
ihrachys | the one I posted is created today. I wonder whether it should have continued the original one. | 14:46 |
markmcclain | armax: sorry alert didn't fire this morning | 14:46 |
armax | but we didn’t enough to go by | 14:46 |
ihrachys | Sam-I-Am: ovs only | 14:46 |
Sam-I-Am | ok, that explains why i didnt run into it | 14:47 |
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Sam-I-Am | happy to test if needed though | 14:47 |
armax | ihrachys: I gather now we have a good understanding of the root cause? | 14:47 |
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armax | markmcclain: now worries | 14:47 |
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ihrachys | armax: yes. I have it in my brain I think. :) | 14:47 |
emagana | let me know if you need more testing as well | 14:47 |
armax | ihrachys: ok cool | 14:47 |
ihrachys | armax: I also posted some comments on the original patch | 14:47 |
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Sam-I-Am | ihrachys: s/flat/vlan ? | 14:48 |
ihrachys | so please review, and advice what we do with duplicates like that | 14:48 |
armax | ihrachys: quick link? | 14:48 |
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ihrachys | orgiinal patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/225001/ | 14:48 |
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armax | ihrachys: thanks! | 14:49 |
armax | anything else? | 14:49 |
carl_baldwin | ihrachys: fwiw, I thought your comments on the new patch were very appropriate. +1 | 14:50 |
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Sam-I-Am | there's no gating of flat networks? | 14:51 |
armax | ihrachys: but is it okay to place an unknown vlan tag with 0? | 14:51 |
armax | ihrachys: that’s the part that puzzles me | 14:51 |
armax | patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237586/ doesn’t seem to do that | 14:51 |
kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: there's no gating of any networks | 14:51 |
ihrachys | armax: that's smth I need to think more. In theory, 0 is no vlan tag, but it may have differences in how it flows in ovs agent. | 14:51 |
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armax | so the last one seems the better fix? | 14:51 |
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kevinbenton | Sam-I-Am: without multinode at least | 14:51 |
Sam-I-Am | typically an untagged vlan has no vlan id | 14:52 |
ihrachys | yes, 237586 seems more safe | 14:52 |
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ihrachys | Sam-I-Am: apparently no gating | 14:52 |
armax | ihrachys: so we should supersed 225001 | 14:52 |
Sam-I-Am | hmmm | 14:52 |
* gongysh feel bad Liberty breaks the flat mode. | 14:52 | |
Sam-I-Am | kevinbenton ihrachys we should talk about these things | 14:52 |
ihrachys | Sam-I-Am: or maybe it's because it's done only on agent start, and we don't restart it in gate | 14:52 |
armax | ihrachys: do we know the breaking commit? | 14:52 |
Sam-I-Am | ihrachys: oh, interesting | 14:53 |
ihrachys | armax: yes, it's ryu support one I think | 14:53 |
ihrachys | it was mentioned in the bug | 14:53 |
armax | ihrachys: ok, I haven’t gone through the comments yet | 14:53 |
armax | ihrachys: let’s circle back on this quickly I guess | 14:53 |
ihrachys | the breaking one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153946/ | 14:54 |
kevinbenton | Liberty may have also messed up VLAN networks as per claudiub's bug | 14:54 |
ihrachys | aye, out of meeting | 14:54 |
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ihrachys | wow. nice work folks | 14:54 |
ihrachys | :D | 14:54 |
amuller | kevinbenton: I don't think so, we have a fullstack connectivity test that uses VLANs | 14:54 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: link? | 14:54 |
armax | that was bound to break something! | 14:54 |
amuller | that tends to pass | 14:54 |
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claudiub | ihrachys: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1507776 | 14:54 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1507776 in neutron "Wrong OVS flows created for new networks" [Undecided,New] | 14:54 |
ihrachys | amuller: afaik claudiub is interested in ovs on hyper-v, maybe that's what we don't gate ;) | 14:55 |
armax | this must be it: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/153946/136/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers/openvswitch/agent/ovs_neutron_agent.py | 14:55 |
claudiub | ihrachys: actually, this wasn't run with ovs on hyper-v | 14:55 |
Sam-I-Am | armax: heh, i think so | 14:55 |
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Sam-I-Am | such a small change :) | 14:55 |
claudiub | ihrachys: classic ovs-agent + neutron-hyperv-agent | 14:55 |
armax | yamamoto: any input? | 14:56 |
ihrachys | claudiub: which platform under ovs? | 14:56 |
claudiub | ubuntu 14.04 | 14:56 |
amuller | is this a bug in the OVS agent or not? Why would the nova hypervisor matter | 14:56 |
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armax | ok, let’s continue bug conversation in channel | 14:56 |
claudiub | the hypervisor doesn't matter | 14:56 |
claudiub | I've stated in the bug message that, if the neutron-ovs-agent is restarted, the flows are recreated properly | 14:57 |
armax | we got 4 minutes left | 14:57 |
Sam-I-Am | yep :/ | 14:57 |
claudiub | and the traffic is ok | 14:57 |
emagana | armax: need to leave.. another meeting waiting in the schedule.. | 14:57 |
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Sam-I-Am | armax: i have 1 docs request | 14:57 |
ihrachys | armax: I believe we'll need to handle open agenda in #neutron | 14:57 |
Sam-I-Am | well, many, but one for here :) | 14:57 |
armax | emagana: ok…let’s continue the conversation in channel for now and in person next week for the folks who are going to be in tokyo | 14:57 |
armax | Sam-I-Am: shoot | 14:58 |
kevinbenton | amuller: how does full stack simulate two connected agents via a physical interface? | 14:58 |
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Sam-I-Am | right now, the networking guide scenarios with L3 only support attaching VMs to private networks | 14:58 |
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Sam-I-Am | i've seen interest in hybrid implementations that allow connection to both public/provider and private networks | 14:58 |
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Sam-I-Am | i'm wondering if i should add this capability to the existing scenarios, or make new hybrid scenarios | 14:59 |
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yamamoto | armax: i don't remember the specific change. i'll take a look tomorrow. | 14:59 |
Sam-I-Am | the former is easier, but makes them a little more complex | 14:59 |
armax | yamamoto: thanks! | 14:59 |
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amuller | kevinbenton: this diagram explains what it simulates: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/devref/fullstack_testing.html | 14:59 |
armax | Sam-I-Am: sounds sensible | 14:59 |
Sam-I-Am | the latter is duplicating a lot of information, but generally reduces complexity | 14:59 |
armax | ok folks | 14:59 |
Sam-I-Am | looking for opinions so i can get crankin | 14:59 |
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armax | I am afraid we gotta cut this abruptly | 14:59 |
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neiljerram | Sam-I-Am: sounds interesting, happy to help review | 14:59 |
Sam-I-Am | over to -neutron :) | 14:59 |
emagana | Sam-I-Am: let's move the discussion to the neutron channel | 14:59 |
armax | let’s continue in #openstack-neutron, for those who can | 14:59 |
armax | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 20 15:00:00 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
ihrachys | o/ | 15:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-10-20-14.00.html | 15:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-10-20-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
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openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2015/networking.2015-10-20-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
Sam-I-Am | seeeeya | 15:00 |
hichihara | bye | 15:00 |
rkukura | bye | 15:00 |
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* mestery waits for the drivers meeting to start | 15:02 | |
* carl_baldwin too | 15:03 | |
davidsha | Thought I might have been in the wrong irc for a minute :) | 15:03 |
armax | hi folks | 15:03 |
davidsha | hi | 15:03 |
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armax | bit of a context switch | 15:03 |
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armax | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 15:04 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 20 15:04:22 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:04 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:04 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 15:04 |
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armax | so amotoki and dougwig are not with us | 15:05 |
* mestery mourns them both | 15:05 | |
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armax | so I gather it’s just mestery, kevinbenton and carl_baldwin and me from the neutron drivers team | 15:05 |
armax | mestery: oh boy | 15:05 |
mestery | Yup | 15:05 |
armax | that’s not what I meant | 15:05 |
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mestery | I know :) | 15:05 |
neiljerram | i;m here too | 15:05 |
armax | neiljerram: hi | 15:05 |
neiljerram | although obviously not driving :-) | 15:06 |
cloudon | also me, from the TelcoWG, as I have an RFE which may come up | 15:06 |
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armax | ok, let’s see if we can wrap up the existing ones in flight | 15:06 |
armax | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=Triaged&field.tag=rfe | 15:06 |
* HenryG lurks too | 15:06 | |
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armax | bug #1468366 | 15:07 |
openstack | bug 1468366 in neutron "RFE - Logging API for security group and firewall rules" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1468366 - Assigned to Yushiro FURUKAWA (y-furukawa-2) | 15:07 |
kevinbenton | I haven't had a chance to review that one | 15:08 |
regXboi | kevinbenton: the spec continues to have issues | 15:09 |
mestery | LAst time I looked at this one, it had serious issues | 15:09 |
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kevinbenton | Last time I had looked it was around logging destinations. Is that still the case? | 15:10 |
mestery | kevinbenton: Right, that's what I recall as well | 15:10 |
armax | carl_baldwin: did you look into that one? | 15:10 |
carl_baldwin | armax: not in a while | 15:10 |
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armax | I guess that boils down to allowing proper auditing of security groups | 15:11 |
armax | and firewall rules | 15:11 |
regXboi | carl_baldwin: ? | 15:11 |
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regXboi | what about https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203509 | 15:11 |
armax | if we break this down into two separate efforts | 15:11 |
armax | I wonder if that has higher chances of success | 15:11 |
mestery | armax: Maybe that's how it can be succesfull is breaking it down | 15:11 |
mestery | Because as it stands, it seems unlikely | 15:11 |
carl_baldwin | regXboi: Oops, missed that one. It must have been the extra stuff around it meant to call attention to it. | 15:11 |
armax | the idea of logging for audit reasons seems sensible to me | 15:11 |
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armax | ok let me provide some feedback on this one and see where we go | 15:12 |
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armax | bug 1501380 | 15:12 |
openstack | bug 1501380 in neutron "Evolution of options and features in neutron-db-manage" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1501380 | 15:12 |
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armax | HenryG: did you get a chance to elaborate more what you’re after? | 15:12 |
HenryG | I removed the rfe tag from bug #1501380. I may create individual bugs for the issues identified. | 15:13 |
armax | HenryG: ok fair enough | 15:13 |
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armax | bug #1499864 | 15:13 |
openstack | bug 1499864 in neutron "Fullstack infrastructure as a developer multi-node deployment tool" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1499864 | 15:13 |
armax | this one I looked | 15:13 |
armax | I am not sure if anyone is interested in doing the work, furthermore I see a lot of overlap with other tools | 15:14 |
armax | thoughts? | 15:14 |
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carl_baldwin | Sounds a little like devstack light. | 15:15 |
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armax | I don’t see anyone taking this on | 15:15 |
armax | amuller reported it but I don’t see he being the approver | 15:16 |
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armax | and I don’t see an assignee stepping up either | 15:16 |
armax | I would be tempted to reject this for now | 15:16 |
mestery | Doesn't that kind of replicate devstack? | 15:16 |
mestery | Also | 15:16 |
mestery | Wouldn't it be better to look at utilizing something like Kolla instead? | 15:16 |
mestery | Just some thoughts | 15:16 |
armax | it’s slightly different | 15:16 |
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armax | as this is for modeling testing scenarios | 15:17 |
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mestery | ok | 15:17 |
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armax | through a declarative model | 15:17 |
armax | devstack…I don’t even know what is | 15:17 |
armax | a pile of bash | 15:17 |
kevinbenton | If amuller wanted to push it, I wouldn't be apposed | 15:17 |
armax | kevinbenton: me neither | 15:17 |
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armax | but for lack of resources I can’t see this happen any time soon | 15:18 |
mestery | ++, me either | 15:18 |
carl_baldwin | To be honest, I don’t see myself using it. | 15:18 |
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armax | ok, I’ll provide feedback | 15:18 |
armax | next | 15:18 |
armax | bug 1458890 | 15:18 |
openstack | bug 1458890 in neutron "Add segment support to Neutron" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1458890 | 15:18 |
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armax | I suspect we want this to happen one way or another…we still need to figure out how | 15:19 |
armax | correct? | 15:19 |
mestery | armax: That one is old! | 15:19 |
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mestery | Yes | 15:19 |
mestery | The operators want this one | 15:19 |
carl_baldwin | Correct | 15:19 |
mestery | carl_baldwin: This is backed by your routed network work, correct? | 15:19 |
carl_baldwin | We have a good portion of a design session for this. | 15:19 |
carl_baldwin | mestery: Yes. | 15:19 |
armax | so it’s full blown spec process etc. | 15:19 |
carl_baldwin | armax: yes | 15:19 |
kevinbenton | Change the title of that! | 15:19 |
armax | mestery: you mean bug 1472704? | 15:19 |
openstack | bug 1472704 in neutron "Support networks that work through routing instead of bridging" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1472704 - Assigned to Neil Jerram (neil-jerram) | 15:20 |
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mestery | armax: Seems like a duplicate | 15:20 |
mestery | carl_baldwin: Agree? | 15:20 |
neiljerram | No! | 15:20 |
mestery | No? | 15:20 |
carl_baldwin | I’m going to break my spec down. Start with something more directly targetted at this rfe. | 15:20 |
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neiljerram | No, not - sadly I hadn't prepared a quick statement of why! | 15:20 |
armax | ok | 15:20 |
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mestery | lol, no worries neiljerram | 15:20 |
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mestery | neiljerram: You just want to break the core tenant that networks are L2-reachable, right? ;) | 15:21 |
mestery | Nothing big there | 15:21 |
mestery | :) | 15:21 |
kevinbenton | First spec is about limited l2 domains | 15:21 |
neiljerram | But carl_baldwin, would you say that your model change spec is trying to address 1472704 as well? | 15:21 |
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armax | if we can help it | 15:21 |
kevinbenton | Neil wants no L2 domains | 15:21 |
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neiljerram | mestery: Yes. | 15:21 |
armax | let’s try to keep the two separate | 15:21 |
mestery | I think breaking that part of the model will prove difficult, but what do I know. :) | 15:22 |
carl_baldwin | neiljerram: No. | 15:22 |
neiljerram | I want something like a network, but that only provides IP reachability | 15:22 |
carl_baldwin | neiljerram: But, we should talk about it soon. | 15:22 |
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neiljerram | carl_baldwin: Yes. So possibly I should work on a separate spec for my use case. | 15:22 |
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armax | neiljerram: I am still unclear about what’s required here | 15:23 |
armax | neiljerram: some of the patches referenced in the devref merged etc | 15:23 |
armax | neiljerram: what changes are you after to enable your use case? | 15:23 |
neiljerram | shall I try to explain now? | 15:23 |
armax | neiljerram: probably not | 15:23 |
armax | neiljerram: if you could give us an update based on the last events that happened in liberty | 15:24 |
neiljerram | I commented today in the bug, in response to your query - did you get a chance to read that | 15:24 |
armax | that would be good | 15:24 |
armax | neiljerram: I’ll go over it | 15:24 |
neiljerram | OK. | 15:24 |
armax | by the end of today | 15:24 |
armax | next bug | 15:24 |
armax | bug 1475736 | 15:24 |
openstack | bug 1475736 in neutron "Add instrumentation to Neutron" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1475736 - Assigned to Ryan Moats (rmoats) | 15:24 |
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regXboi | armax: you wrapped this into a previous blueprint? | 15:25 |
vikram | /quit | 15:25 |
armax | regXboi: I saw there was a blueprint registered | 15:25 |
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armax | regXboi: and I tied it to this one | 15:25 |
regXboi | armax: no worries - just wanted to understand the thinking | 15:25 |
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armax | regXboi: I think we all agree we may want to get an insight into a neutron system | 15:26 |
armax | at the moment we have nothing | 15:26 |
armax | I am not personally convinced we need to favor one protocol over another | 15:27 |
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armax | for carrying out these stats from the platform to whoever is doing the monitoring | 15:27 |
regXboi | I owe an update to the devref, which is trying to get to that point | 15:27 |
armax | regXboi: so perhaps revisit the bug report description first? | 15:28 |
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regXboi | armax: I can do that when I do the devref update | 15:28 |
armax | regXboi: ok | 15:29 |
armax | regXboi: ETA? | 15:29 |
regXboi | by COB this week | 15:29 |
armax | regXboi: ok | 15:29 |
regXboi | you'll have it before the summit | 15:29 |
armax | mestery: we usually have this meeting wrapped in 30 mins? | 15:29 |
armax | or it’s the full blown hour? | 15:29 |
armax | I don’t recall | 15:29 |
mestery | Yup | 15:29 |
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kevinbenton | Hour and a half to 3 | 15:29 |
mestery | Lets close this thing down | 15:29 |
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mestery | I could use the extra 30 minutes myself ;) | 15:29 |
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armax | ok | 15:31 |
armax | let’s wrap up then | 15:31 |
armax | I have enough on my plate after these two past meetings to go by for a week :) | 15:31 |
mestery | :) | 15:31 |
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mestery | thanks armax | 15:31 |
armax | if you guys can have a look at the NEW bugs | 15:31 |
neiljerram | thanks all | 15:32 |
mestery | New RFE bugs? | 15:32 |
armax | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.tag=rfe | 15:32 |
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mestery | heh | 15:32 |
mestery | armax: We think alike ;) | 15:32 |
mestery | scary | 15:32 |
armax | let’s have a first pass offline | 15:32 |
armax | mestery: I suppose | 15:32 |
armax | ! | 15:32 |
mestery | :) | 15:32 |
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cloudon | if anyone wants to ask about https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1506076 I'm your man | 15:32 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1506076 in neutron "Allow connection tracking to be disabled per-port" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 15:32 |
armax | and we’ll come back to the list of CONFIRMED bugs next week | 15:32 |
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armax | cloudon: either offline, or next week | 15:33 |
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armax | thanks folks | 15:33 |
cloudon | np | 15:33 |
armax | #endmeeting | 15:33 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 20 15:33:34 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:33 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2015/neutron_drivers.2015-10-20-15.04.html | 15:33 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2015/neutron_drivers.2015-10-20-15.04.txt | 15:33 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2015/neutron_drivers.2015-10-20-15.04.log.html | 15:33 |
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stevemar_ | o/ | 18:00 |
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stevemar_ | keystoners assemble! | 18:00 |
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shaleh | what were we just talking about? | 18:00 |
raildo | \o | 18:00 |
browne | o/ | 18:00 |
SheenaG | o/ | 18:01 |
stevemar_ | shaleh: nothing yet! | 18:01 |
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stevemar_ | ping ajayaa, amakarov, ayoung, breton, browne, davechen, david8hu, dolphm, dstanek, ericksonsantos, geoffarnold, gyee, henrynash, hogepodge, htruta, jamielennox, joesavak, lbragstad, lhcheng, marekd, morganfainberg, nkinder, raildo, rharwood, rodrigods, roxanaghe, samueldmq, stevemar, tsymanczyk, topol, vivekd, wanghong, claudiub | 18:01 |
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amakarov | o/ | 18:01 |
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marekd | stevemar_: o/ | 18:01 |
shaleh | stevemar_: you said stoners assemble. That is the official stoner greeting. | 18:01 |
stevemar_ | if you want your name added to the ping list: update the wiki https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting | 18:01 |
rodrigods | o/ | 18:01 |
stevemar_ | shaleh: hehe | 18:01 |
tsymanczyk | o/ | 18:01 |
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gyee | o/ \ / ----- | 18:02 |
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dolphm | o/ | 18:02 |
ericksonsantos | \o | 18:02 |
david8hu | 0/ | 18:02 |
lbragstad | stevemar_ o/ | 18:02 |
samueldmq | hello all o/ | 18:02 |
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stevemar_ | there we go | 18:02 |
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stevemar_ | dstanek is going to be late | 18:03 |
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stevemar_ | not much on the agenda today | 18:03 |
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stevemar_ | #startmeeting keystone | 18:03 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 20 18:03:29 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is stevemar_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:03 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:03 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: keystone)" | 18:03 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'keystone' | 18:03 |
henrynash | (slinks in late) | 18:03 |
stevemar_ | agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/KeystoneMeeting | 18:03 |
stevemar_ | henrynash: hey! o/ | 18:03 |
stevemar_ | #topic What's up with keystoneauth-integration feature branch in python-keystoneclient? | 18:04 |
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stevemar_ | bknudson: all you bud | 18:04 |
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bknudson | what's up with keystoneauth-integration? | 18:04 |
dolphm | lol | 18:04 |
bknudson | there's reviews posted to it. | 18:04 |
stevemar_ | morgan: jamielennox? | 18:04 |
jamielennox | it was supposed to be removed in favour of a ksc v2 branch | 18:05 |
jamielennox | the powers that be said we shouldn't do a v2 branch and do it all on master | 18:05 |
bknudson | ok, so we're dropping it? | 18:05 |
bknudson | I think we should have a 2.0 branch | 18:05 |
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jamielennox | i do too | 18:05 |
bknudson | otherwise we might wind up releasing half a 2.0 or not being able to release. | 18:05 |
stevemar_ | a 2.0.0 branch makes sense to me | 18:05 |
jamielennox | yea, dropping it. it was for when ksc 1 was going to have a dependency on ksa. we're not doing that anymore | 18:06 |
stevemar_ | we can remove a whole bunch of crap from there and iterate faster | 18:06 |
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dolphm | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-keystoneclient+branch:feature/keystoneauth_integration,n,z | 18:06 |
jamielennox | well apparently the reason was that we should do it in master and that way the gate would enforce everything worked | 18:06 |
jamielennox | which just doesn't work because no-one else will pick it up until we put it on pypi | 18:07 |
bknudson | as far as I can tell there's no way to tell if we're breaking stuff when we remove things | 18:07 |
stevemar_ | so how can we, right ^ | 18:07 |
bknudson | otherwise the gate wouldn't break all the time when releases are done | 18:08 |
dolphm | bknudson: things = branches? | 18:08 |
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bknudson | dolphm: in this case it's things = functionality in keystoneclient | 18:08 |
stevemar_ | there are surprisingly few open patches in KSC | 18:08 |
jamielennox | so i think this is going to be a really difficult transition however we do it | 18:08 |
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jamielennox | we can't bump reqs project by project | 18:08 |
jamielennox | we can't test against the git repo without adding new jobs to each project we're working on | 18:09 |
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bknudson | we know keystone will break since it's using deprecated ksc function. | 18:09 |
bknudson | anyways, this has gotten a bit off topic. I was just wondering about keystoneauth-integration and I got my answer. | 18:10 |
jamielennox | lol - and even keystone is doing it wrong :) | 18:10 |
stevemar_ | bknudson: there isn't much on the agenda, we can discuss this if it's beneficial | 18:10 |
bknudson | I'm going to -2 everything in there. | 18:10 |
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jamielennox | there's only i think one patch which was really proposed against the integration branch (off the top of my head) that i feel bad about because we told them to propose it there rather than master | 18:11 |
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jamielennox | i think it was doug-fish ? | 18:11 |
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bknudson | and then I guess work with infra to get rid of the branch | 18:12 |
stevemar_ | jamielennox: probably | 18:12 |
stevemar_ | yep | 18:12 |
doug-fish | yeah could be. I'll get over it for sure. | 18:12 |
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bknudson | are the changes proposed to get ksc using ksa? | 18:12 |
stevemar_ | bknudson: nope; https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/python-keystoneclient+status:open,n,z | 18:13 |
jamielennox | bknudson: there were a few of those merged, but if we're going down the 2.0 path it's going to be easier to rip and replace than try and do a compatible dependency | 18:13 |
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bknudson | I think we need to do a compatible dependency otherwise there's no way to upgrade. | 18:13 |
jamielennox | so the big change with 2.0 will obviously be removing everything from Client.__init__ in favour or session/adapter | 18:14 |
roxanaghe_ | what about this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/215261/ I was told to put it on that branch because it was too risky for master..? | 18:14 |
bknudson | roxanaghe_: that will go in the 2.0 branch if we make one | 18:15 |
roxanaghe_ | bknudson, ok.. | 18:15 |
jamielennox | beyond that there are a couple of changes, but they're to like AccessInfo.create and stuff that i doubt will affect most people and it's an easy swap to the new function | 18:15 |
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jamielennox | roxanaghe_: ah, that's the one i meant that we pushed to the integration branch | 18:16 |
morgan | bknudson: removing the branch is easy | 18:16 |
morgan | bknudson: just have stevemar_ ask the release team / infra. | 18:16 |
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stevemar_ | morgan: cool, i'll ask them after the meeting | 18:16 |
morgan | bknudson: and -2 isn't needed on anything in that branch, it should all go away when the branch is deleted | 18:17 |
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jamielennox | roxanaghe_: sorry about that, but it will happen in v2 | 18:17 |
bknudson | morgan: it shouldn't be needed but I keep seeing people reviewing changes in there. | 18:17 |
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roxanaghe_ | jamielennox: no worries, I can submit that again when we have a new branch | 18:18 |
stevemar_ | bknudson: hopefully we can have it removed quickly | 18:18 |
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stevemar_ | looks like we still have some work to do in this area | 18:18 |
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jamielennox | stevemar_: so maybe we need a new decision on the v2 branch whilst you're dealing with that | 18:18 |
stevemar_ | jamielennox: a v2 branch sounds like the right move to me | 18:19 |
bknudson | my vote is for a 2.0 branch | 18:19 |
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shaleh | ++ | 18:19 |
stevemar_ | i want to do a rip and replace, but i know it won't fly | 18:19 |
jamielennox | i mean either we get a v2 branch or we have to fork a 1.x branch for compatibility - either way is esentially the same thing | 18:19 |
morgan | we could do a ksc2 project | 18:19 |
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morgan | in pypi / elsewhere | 18:19 |
bknudson | then propose all the deprecated function removals you want to 2.0 branch | 18:19 |
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morgan | and do a "Freeze" on current ksc | 18:20 |
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bknudson | Other projects aren't going to have an easy time switching from ksc1 to ksc2 if we're breaking everything. | 18:20 |
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shaleh | was a reasonable argument made against the 2.0 branch? | 18:21 |
morgan | bknudson: we're going to have a hard time removing anything from ksc1 | 18:21 |
stevemar_ | morgan: python-keystoneclient2 ? | 18:21 |
bknudson | this is why semver says you only remove deprecated function | 18:21 |
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jamielennox | bknudson: the problem is going to be mainly all the people that are using exactly what we want to deprecate | 18:21 |
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jamielennox | and remove | 18:21 |
morgan | bknudson: and we know how well we've done with semver in openstack | 18:21 |
dolphm | introducing backwards incompatible changes will never foster adoption | 18:21 |
jamielennox | shaleh: i think the point was that if we did it in master then the gate would enforce we only did things that other projects could cope with | 18:21 |
morgan | stevemar_: i'd drop "python" from it | 18:21 |
bknudson | it's all marked as deprecated now. The openstack policy is 6 months to move off. | 18:21 |
jamielennox | shaleh: which is not something i buy | 18:22 |
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morgan | except the client libs are used outside of openstack and will likely break people and make the end users very cranky | 18:22 |
shaleh | jamielennox: the gate runs the project's unit tests and what else? | 18:22 |
jamielennox | right, assuming that we are going to catch every use of keystoneclient is ridiculous | 18:23 |
bknudson | we can continue to support the 1.0 branch and do releases, just no new function. | 18:23 |
morgan | bknudson: the issue is the same thing we hit with upstream libs | 18:23 |
morgan | bknudson: they change something and release the "same" project and it breaks everything | 18:23 |
jamielennox | shaleh: it runs functional test as well, but for everything except the unit test it uses the library version released on pypi - so it's not going to test this stuff anyway | 18:23 |
morgan | anyway | 18:23 |
bknudson | every user will have to cap <2.0 | 18:23 |
morgan | i'm just playing devils advocate | 18:23 |
morgan | i don't really care how we get to 2.0 | 18:23 |
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morgan | branch, new project, etc | 18:24 |
stevemar_ | if the choice is between a new project (keystoneclient2) or a branch, i think i'd prefer a new project | 18:24 |
morgan | the only reason I think a new project *may* make sense is the split of middleware and session | 18:24 |
morgan | if it was strictly crud interfaces | 18:24 |
bknudson | the branch is optional, it just makes it easier to do the reviews | 18:24 |
morgan | i'd say I don't care as much | 18:24 |
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morgan | and a new version of 2.0 would be a lot less impactful | 18:25 |
bknudson | we could put all of the removals in 1 patch, too. | 18:25 |
stevemar_ | bknudson: jamie already did that | 18:25 |
jamielennox | ideally i'd prefer not to do a new project. we're not the first project to try and remove stuff from client, but we are depended upon by a lot of people | 18:25 |
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stevemar_ | so we'll just have a bunch of folks using <2.0.0 | 18:26 |
morgan | jamielennox: and we're def. unwinding that issue (it's still all auth related) | 18:26 |
dolphm | why do we need a v2 client, exactly? | 18:26 |
ayoung | I think the only thi8ng critical to remove from client is the CLI functionality. Programmatic changes are easier to shim | 18:26 |
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morgan | ayoung: auth/session and CLi - the auth stuff is the reason things are so interdependant | 18:26 |
jamielennox | bknudson: i did some testing with this a while ago https://github.com/jamielennox/python-keystoneclient/tree/v2 is where i was pushing patches | 18:26 |
bknudson | dolphm: there's a lot of function that's deprecated in ksc and it would be nice to get rid of it. | 18:27 |
bknudson | since it's technical debt now | 18:27 |
dolphm | so delete it all at once and version bump - why worry about a new branch / new repo to do that? | 18:27 |
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jamielennox | there's like a couple of layers of maintaining compatibility because everyone would use ksc for auth then reach in and grab tokens and other info | 18:27 |
morgan | dolphm: because the ripple effect breaking everything that didn't properly cap <2.0 | 18:28 |
bknudson | dolphm: it's just a lot of code so it would be easier to review in smaller patches. | 18:28 |
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ayoung | morgan, I think there is a distinction worth making. With package dependencies, yeah, we would like them to move ahed, but the general workflow, what is avaialble, is the same (if duplicated) where as with CLI, we are talking different workflow and scripting. It is, I think the CLI usage that is holding us back, far more than anything programmatic | 18:28 |
morgan | dolphm: and ^ what bknudson said | 18:28 |
dolphm | but we don't have those patches to review today anyone? | 18:28 |
dolphm | anyway* | 18:28 |
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morgan | ayoung: I'd argue that auth is as big a hold back as the CLI in this case | 18:28 |
jamielennox | dolphm: i'll essentially drop https://github.com/jamielennox/python-keystoneclient/tree/v2 into review | 18:29 |
ayoung | morgan, with KSC we can still move them to the 3.0 AOPI. CLI does not allow that | 18:29 |
ayoung | but we should p[lan it all, so I'm not really arguing against | 18:29 |
ayoung | just prioritizing | 18:29 |
dolphm | jamielennox: i don't know what the diff there is | 18:29 |
stevemar_ | dolphm: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221596/ | 18:30 |
jamielennox | dolphm: the last 8 patches of history starting with "remove cli" | 18:30 |
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shaleh | if a new version of ksc is released it will break everyone who has not already put an explicit <2.0 in their requirements, right? | 18:30 |
bknudson | we need to at least get keystone not using deprecated ksc stuff. | 18:30 |
morgan | shaleh: yes. | 18:30 |
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bknudson | I assume auth_token is using deprecated stuff, too. | 18:30 |
morgan | bknudson: likely. | 18:30 |
morgan | bknudson: but that can be fixed with moving to ksa | 18:30 |
morgan | bknudson: and should be much easier | 18:30 |
dolphm | our we worried about breaking openstack projects with a 2.0 release, or third party projects? | 18:30 |
morgan | dolphm: both | 18:31 |
shaleh | 3rd party are a big deal here | 18:31 |
bknudson | sure, but somebody's got to do it. | 18:31 |
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ayoung | what are we talking about removing exactly here? | 18:31 |
bknudson | shaleh: it won't break anyone unless they're using deprecated function. | 18:31 |
dolphm | solving openstack projects is easy. you're not going to avoid breaking third party projects any further if there's already proper deprecations and version bumps happening | 18:31 |
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jamielennox | ayoung: the CLI, creating clients with username= etc, bunch of compatibility things like getting project_id from the ksc Client object | 18:32 |
morgan | bknudson: it should mostly be drop in on the auth_token front | 18:32 |
morgan | that is about as easy as the other client libs that just do auth | 18:32 |
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morgan | mostly minimal a different import | 18:32 |
jamielennox | yea, auth_token is fine - and if not it's something we have control over | 18:32 |
jamielennox | hopefully i can finish this auth_token in front of keystone soon and we won't need like the cms options in ksc either | 18:33 |
morgan | jamielennox: we should just move cms to middleware anyway | 18:33 |
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morgan | jamielennox: keystone already depends on ksm | 18:33 |
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jamielennox | oh, then yes | 18:33 |
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ayoung | KC never claimed to validate tokens. If needs be, we can drop CMS. Needs to stay available to middleware until PKI tokens are dropeed | 18:34 |
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shaleh | looking at the changes, auth is a likely point of failure and it is a pretty straightforward change for the developer. This should be safe enough to release. | 18:35 |
shaleh | we could make an announcement or two, get it out there so people know it is coming. | 18:36 |
ayoung | So have we at a minimum deprecated everything we want to remove long enough ago such that we are within the letter of the law in removing? | 18:36 |
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mordred | I would recommend getting people off of ksc completely before removing anything - letter of law notwithstanding | 18:37 |
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jamielennox | mordred: how do we make that list | 18:37 |
mordred | jamielennox: http://hound.openstack.org/?q=keystoneclient&i=nope&files=&repos= is a good start | 18:38 |
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mordred | although that's out of date because we haven't restarted hound since doing the renames | 18:38 |
* dstanek is here now | 18:38 | |
ayoung | mordred, my question still stands | 18:39 |
stevemar_ | dstanek: o/ | 18:39 |
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ayoung | We need to get people moving. We can say 'We'lgrant a repreive if you ask' but we are not going and changing every single project out ther | 18:39 |
ayoung | e | 18:39 |
mordred | ayoung: I do not know. of course, I'm more in favor of openstack never deprecating anyting ever again because it just moves the complexity to the end user | 18:39 |
mordred | so I might not be the right person to ask | 18:39 |
stevemar_ | mordred: why am i just learning about http://hound.openstack.org/ now? | 18:40 |
ayoung | But, we can't even remove it if we did not deprecate it. | 18:40 |
mordred | stevemar_: it's not a live service yet | 18:40 |
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jamielennox | wow, i thought our problem would be session, there's still a lot of instances of keystoneclient.auth_token | 18:40 |
jamielennox | stevemar_: me too | 18:40 |
marekd | and me | 18:40 |
* mordred is going to start changing all of the openstack porjects | 18:40 | |
mordred | has started with neutronclient | 18:40 |
mordred | is doing novaclient and glanceclient next | 18:40 |
shaleh | jamielennox: but this is all solvable with direct effort and quickly enough. | 18:41 |
mordred | because someone needs to do the work, and because I want them all to support keystone v3 and clouds.yaml sooner rather than later | 18:41 |
mordred | and I think getting them on to ksa is the quicketst way to do that | 18:41 |
shaleh | mordred: ++ for clouds.yaml | 18:41 |
jamielennox | shaleh: i mean the code will still work, it's a matter of finding it and getting people to fix it - and the deprecation warnings have necessarily done that | 18:41 |
mordred | once that's done, I'd argue that caring about the functionality in ksc is a thing that is less important | 18:42 |
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jamielennox | i think the realistic path for M is to deprecate all the Session stuff in ksc in favour of KSA | 18:42 |
jamielennox | and spend the cycle moving everyone across to ksa | 18:42 |
ayoung | So...when did we deprecate this functionality? | 18:42 |
ayoung | Was it 1 year ago? | 18:42 |
mordred | jamielennox: ++ | 18:43 |
jamielennox | ayoung: ksc.Session hasn't been because it's only been available since ksa release but it's just s/keystoneclient/keystoneauht there | 18:43 |
ayoung | jamielennox, ++ If things are not yet deprecated, first thing is to deprecate. | 18:43 |
bknudson | the keystone CLI was deprecated earlier than all the username, etc. parameters. | 18:43 |
ayoung | We can work on a punchlist of what needs to be fixed after we' | 18:43 |
ayoung | ve got the official path forward documented | 18:43 |
david8hu | a wiki page to keep track of things... | 18:44 |
shaleh | sounds like a reasonable plan of action | 18:44 |
jamielennox | right and we would need to document this and everything, i'd be impressed if we were even in a position where people would accept this this cycle | 18:44 |
mordred | jamielennox: which bit? the move to ksa? or the deprecation? | 18:44 |
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stevemar_ | we need to cut this in about 5 minutes | 18:44 |
jamielennox | mordred: removing all deprecated stuff from ksc | 18:44 |
shaleh | the changes are small, we could even propose the fixes if needed | 18:44 |
jamielennox | in favour of ksa | 18:45 |
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mordred | jamielennox: I agree. I do not think that will fly this cycle | 18:45 |
mordred | jamielennox: I think deprecating this cycle will | 18:45 |
jamielennox | ype | 18:45 |
jamielennox | yep | 18:45 |
mordred | jamielennox: and getting projects moved to ksa this cycle will | 18:45 |
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bknudson | sounds like we're saying spend the effort on migrating other projects to ksa rather than removing function | 18:46 |
bknudson | except for the keystone CLI? | 18:46 |
mordred | does osc support keystone v2 catalog? | 18:46 |
jamielennox | bknudson: it's hung around this long, we'd have to major version to drop it | 18:46 |
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stevemar_ | mordred: yeppers | 18:46 |
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mordred | great. then I do not personally care if it goes away :) | 18:46 |
bknudson | might be handy to have an etherpad to track the work on other projects. | 18:46 |
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mordred | bknudson: ++ | 18:47 |
bknudson | or a cross-project spec? | 18:47 |
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morgan | bknudson: maybe. might be useful, might also just be in the range of "file a bug" | 18:47 |
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bknudson | y, cross-project spec seems like overkill especially since they don't seem to carry any weight. | 18:47 |
morgan | don't know if this is really a "spec" but more a "bug" and fix code. ksa isn't a huge departure from ksc session | 18:47 |
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morgan | and everyone should be on ksc.session already | 18:48 |
ayoung | ok... anything else we need to discuss, or wait until next week? | 18:48 |
jamielennox | but ok, i'll do a big bug and tag projects as i find it | 18:48 |
morgan | ayoung: in Tokyo! | 18:48 |
samueldmq | morgan: ++ a bug worked well when we proposed everyone to use the graduated oslo.policy (https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1458945) | 18:48 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1458945 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Use graduated oslo.policy instead of oslo-incubator code" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Jeffrey Zhang (jeffrey4l) | 18:48 |
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samueldmq | which included a ton of projects | 18:48 |
dstanek | i just wanted to thank everyone for bugday - i think it went rather well | 18:49 |
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morgan | jamielennox: I'd say make sure to call it out as a relatively minor change in the bug | 18:49 |
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bknudson | we should get some docs in ksc or ksa for how to make the change. | 18:49 |
morgan | jamielennox: so when the question of "why this isn't a spec" comes up we can point at the bug and say "we have already outlined the minimal impact" | 18:49 |
morgan | bknudson: I'd vote in ksa | 18:49 |
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dstanek | for those of you that don't follow me on twitter: bit.ly/1MMuAqC | 18:50 |
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stevemar_ | #topic Office Hours (bugday) | 18:50 |
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stevemar_ | (sorry about the late topic change) | 18:50 |
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dstanek | i jumped the gun :-) | 18:51 |
stevemar_ | it's all good | 18:51 |
dstanek | you can see that we had a rather large spike in overall activity | 18:51 |
stevemar_ | it was pretty successful | 18:51 |
stevemar_ | #link http://dstanek.com/keystone-bugday/2015-10-16/index.html | 18:51 |
dstanek | at tokyo i want to talk with the people that participated and see what else we can do or what we can do differently | 18:51 |
stevemar_ | lots of invalid and inprogress marks! | 18:52 |
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stevemar_ | dstanek: doing another one this friday? | 18:52 |
mordred | morgan: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236712/ btw - re: cross-project specs. it's about occ, but it implies ksa | 18:52 |
* morgan nods | 18:52 | |
dstanek | the first graph shows 3 spikes. the first two are automation marking things as fix released | 18:52 |
dstanek | stevemar_: yes | 18:52 |
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shaleh | as I mentioned on the list, a solid bug scrub/update is in oder | 18:52 |
dstanek | i'll update the etherpad after this meeting | 18:52 |
shaleh | it is confusing what the state of the bugs are | 18:52 |
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shaleh | there are half finished conversations, claims of things being implemented in one release or another, etc. | 18:53 |
dstanek | shaleh: that is what we were doing on Friday and hope to do every Friday | 18:53 |
stevemar_ | shaleh: yeah, that's the point, getting the bug list to something sensible | 18:54 |
shaleh | dstanek: excellent. I have gone bug trolling once or twice and stopped because I was having problems identifying actual work to do | 18:54 |
jamielennox | dstanek: i really like that plan, i'm not sure timezones will work out for me though | 18:54 |
morgan | shaleh: a couple times over the cycles I've done a massive bug reconsiliation/cleanup/closeout. this is waaaaay better to have a consistent friday event | 18:54 |
shaleh | morgan: ++ | 18:54 |
morgan | jamielennox: just do it on your friday :) | 18:54 |
jamielennox | morgan: what if there's then nothing left for the other people? :p | 18:54 |
marekd | jamielennox: i think dstanek would like to cover all timezones and make ithat Friday last 24 or more hours :-) | 18:54 |
morgan | jamielennox: then you're clearly the winner! | 18:55 |
dstanek | jamielennox: technically it's Friday UTC so feel free to work on bugs during that time! | 18:55 |
dstanek | marekd: ++ | 18:55 |
stevemar_ | i can help with late evening thursday :) | 18:55 |
stevemar_ | and catch some early friday morning folks | 18:55 |
gyee | I only celebrate new year on all timezones | 18:55 |
marekd | gyee: in your private jet | 18:55 |
shaleh | looking forward to joining the bug party in two weeks after the Summit. | 18:55 |
gyee | one bottle per timezone | 18:55 |
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stevemar_ | friday contributor meetup can partly be a bug squash day in tokyo :) | 18:57 |
lbragstad | ++ that's a good idea | 18:57 |
shaleh | BTW, talking about bugs. The definition of "triaged" is not matching my expectation. I am accustomed to that term meaning the bug has been investigated, verified, and assigned a priority/release candidate. | 18:57 |
stevemar_ | shaleh: that's what it should be | 18:57 |
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shaleh | the online doc says triaged has a patch on it | 18:58 |
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shaleh | which means ignore triaged bugs | 18:58 |
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bknudson | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/BugTriage | 18:58 |
stevemar_ | one last topic | 18:58 |
stevemar_ | #project liasons | 18:58 |
stevemar_ | #topic project liasons | 18:58 |
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stevemar_ | if you don't know what they are: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons | 18:58 |
stevemar_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CrossProjectLiaisons | 18:58 |
stevemar_ | let me know if you want to me one, poke me on -keystone | 18:58 |
stevemar_ | that's it! | 18:58 |
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stevemar_ | last few seconds | 18:59 |
shaleh | "If the bug contains the solution, or a patch, set the bug status to Triaged" | 18:59 |
bknudson | and if someone else wants to be oslo liaison then pony up. | 18:59 |
stevemar_ | bknudson: it's a turf war now | 18:59 |
stevemar_ | #endmeeting | 18:59 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:59 | |
openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 20 18:59:39 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:59 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2015/keystone.2015-10-20-18.03.html | 18:59 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2015/keystone.2015-10-20-18.03.txt | 18:59 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/keystone/2015/keystone.2015-10-20-18.03.log.html | 18:59 |
stevemar_ | infra-vengers, assemble! | 18:59 |
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shaleh | stevemar_: ^^ doc says Triaged is for bugs with solutions | 19:00 |
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fungi | infra team: assemble! | 19:00 |
Zara | o/ | 19:00 |
jasondotstar | o/ | 19:00 |
taron | o/ | 19:00 |
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AJaeger | o/ | 19:01 |
stevemar_ | mordred: you've already assembled a team | 19:01 |
crinkle | o/ | 19:01 |
anteaya | stevemar_: yay!!!!! | 19:01 |
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anteaya | stevemar_: yay us, yay!!!! | 19:01 |
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stevemar_ | anteaya: *phew* | 19:02 |
fungi | stevemar_: touché | 19:02 |
fungi | #startmeeting infra | 19:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Tue Oct 20 19:02:08 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is fungi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'infra' | 19:02 |
jhesketh | Morning | 19:02 |
anteaya | stevemar_: yeah, no kidding | 19:02 |
ruagair | o/ | 19:02 |
fungi | #topic Announcements | 19:02 |
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ianw | o/ | 19:02 |
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pabelanger | o/ | 19:03 |
nibalizer | o/ | 19:03 |
zaro | o/ | 19:03 |
fungi | i think lots of people are travelling this week, so while i'm happy to hold a meeting, be aware we're short at least a few council members and there's unlikely to be much of importance decided | 19:03 |
fungi | #topic Actions from last meeting | 19:03 |
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fungi | oh, our agenda! i almost forgot to link it | 19:03 |
olaph | o/ | 19:04 |
fungi | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting | 19:04 |
fungi | no idea where my head is today, clearly not here though | 19:04 |
fungi | and as for the last meeting's minutes... | 19:04 |
fungi | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2015/infra.2015-10-13-19.01.html | 19:04 |
fungi | the only action item we had was: | 19:04 |
fungi | zaro send a discussion starter to the openstack-dev mailing list for feedback on Gerrit 2.11 | 19:05 |
anteaya | that happened | 19:05 |
mordred | o/ | 19:05 |
fungi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-October/076962.html | 19:05 |
zaro | hey, i think we can say that everybody looks forward to 2.11 | 19:05 |
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fungi | it's been a lively discussion too. some mix of excitement and armchair development of gerrit 2.12 ;) | 19:05 |
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anteaya | zaro: I got that feeling | 19:05 |
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fungi | anyway, let's not dwell on the action item other than to thank zaro: he's up momentarily with updates on it in the priority efforts portion of the meeting anyway | 19:06 |
fungi | but thanks for starting that zaro! | 19:06 |
jasondotstar | zaro: +1 | 19:06 |
fungi | #topic Specs approval | 19:06 |
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fungi | #info Approved: StoryBoard Worklists and Boards spec | 19:06 |
Zara | \o/ | 19:07 |
fungi | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/storyboard_worklists_boards.html | 19:07 |
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fungi | looking forward to talking about storyboard and its possible futures at the summit | 19:07 |
Zara | :) | 19:07 |
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fungi | we seem to have no proposed specs for today's agenda, which is just as well since we probably shouldn't vote on more until we summit next week | 19:07 |
fungi | #topic Priority Efforts: Gerrit upgrade | 19:08 |
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fungi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/test-gerrit-2.11 | 19:08 |
fungi | zaro's been a busy bee | 19:08 |
fungi | anything we need to know about this before we have our sessions next week, zaro? | 19:09 |
zaro | ahh yes,. | 19:09 |
zaro | gerrit upgrade is a thing again. #link https://review.openstack.org/237701 | 19:09 |
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zaro | these were the items i had slated for testing: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/test-gerrit-2.11 | 19:09 |
anteaya | I have a point here | 19:10 |
zaro | it's mostly working as expected, just need to test these following things: gerritlib, zuul pipelines, manage projects and migration. | 19:10 |
anteaya | last time we upgraded we needed to give some folks 4 weeks heads up to change ip things in firewalls | 19:10 |
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anteaya | do we need that again this time, if so can we give them the ip addresses now? | 19:10 |
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fungi | anteaya: that's been when replacing servers (like for an distro upgrade) | 19:10 |
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anteaya | fungi: ah okay thanks | 19:11 |
fungi | we don't necessarily need to do a side-by-side upgrade for this one | 19:11 |
zaro | I'm a bit concerned with regards to fiasco last time so i'm wondering if we need to have a rollback script before trying again? | 19:11 |
anteaya | so we don't need to distro upgrade again | 19:11 |
anteaya | okay thanks | 19:11 |
fungi | though that's certainly worth discussing as we get closer to a maintenance | 19:11 |
anteaya | sure I just didn't want to agree to a time and then have to wait another few weeks | 19:11 |
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zaro | I also attempted a migration of prod data yesterday. done on my local laptop but it was way too slow. | 19:11 |
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fungi | zaro: a start to a rollback script wouldn't hurt. most of it was really mordred unwinding the db migrations (including some implicit migrations) | 19:12 |
zaro | took all nigth and only got thru ~600 projects out of ~780 | 19:12 |
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zaro | fungi: i'll look at it but might need some help with that. | 19:12 |
zaro | now i'm planning to try the migration again with a beefy 12cpu VM. | 19:13 |
anteaya | yay, I hope you have better results | 19:13 |
zaro | 16 GB ram | 19:13 |
anteaya | zaro: let's make notes there? | 19:13 |
fungi | zaro: as for a proper migration test, it's reasonable to backup the review-dev db/repos, and then place them with the redacted prod copies and see what sort of timeframe we're looking at on a more representative system | 19:13 |
zaro | where? | 19:13 |
fungi | having a timeframe estimate would be great before jumping into a maintenance | 19:13 |
anteaya | zaro: in an etherpad about what resouces you use for a successful migration | 19:13 |
zaro | fungi: yeah, i was planning to capture time as well | 19:14 |
anteaya | zaro: so if 12cpu and 16 GB ram work | 19:14 |
zaro | i'm guessing that the VM flavor i picked is representivite of what we have for review.o.o | 19:14 |
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fungi | zaro: checking now | 19:15 |
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zaro | although i plan to use local mysql | 19:15 |
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fungi | zaro: we're using 7 vcpus and 30gb ram | 19:15 |
fungi | er, 8 vcpus | 19:15 |
zaro | cool, close enough i guess. | 19:15 |
zaro | though 7 was kina odd | 19:16 |
fungi | it's next to the 8 ;) | 19:16 |
zaro | anyways that's all for now. | 19:16 |
fungi | okay, anything else urgent on this? we have a fairly full agenda | 19:16 |
fungi | thanks zaro! | 19:16 |
fungi | we'll get into more details in person next week too | 19:16 |
zaro | ahh yeah, priority effort topic is 'gerrit-upgrade' | 19:17 |
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fungi | #topic Priority Efforts: Maniphest (craige / ruagair) | 19:17 |
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fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/235802 | 19:17 |
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ruagair | Not much more to add beyond my update in the agenda. | 19:18 |
fungi | what's blocking you on this ruagair? or just a quick status update? | 19:18 |
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fungi | so you've got a test instance running, you've gotten the migration script working, snf you're futzing with auth now (cauth?) | 19:18 |
ruagair | Currently bnutting out a Phsbricator auto configuration issue | 19:18 |
fungi | got it | 19:19 |
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ruagair | yes. | 19:19 |
ruagair | you can experience it at os01.mcwhirter.io | 19:19 |
ruagair | any eyes or thoughts welcome. | 19:20 |
fungi | #link http://os01.mcwhirter.io/ | 19:20 |
fungi | okay, well we've got a task tracking fishbowl slot in tokyo next week if you're going to be there, and if not we'll get some additional details | 19:20 |
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fungi | thanks for working on this! | 19:20 |
tchaypo | Was the plan to use a plugin in front of phabricator to redirect to the opened provider and get auth info from it? | 19:20 |
fungi | #topic Stackforge namespace retirement | 19:20 |
zaro | ruagair: not much to experience there | 19:21 |
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ruagair | I'm there for those sessions. | 19:21 |
zaro | ruagair: it says auth failure | 19:21 |
fungi | just a reminder that we did complete the stackforge namespace retirement maintenance over the weekend | 19:21 |
fungi | thanks to everyone who was involved! | 19:21 |
ruagair | yes zero :-) | 19:21 |
jasondotstar | fungi++ | 19:21 |
fungi | AJaeger has a couple cleanup patches proposed but it's basically behind us now | 19:21 |
tchaypo | Experience the failure (of phabricator, not stackforge) | 19:22 |
fungi | there was one straggler repo which will need to get moved in a future rename maintenance | 19:22 |
fungi | it's on the renames list in the agenda already but needs a project-config change proposed to do the actual renaming | 19:22 |
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anteaya | kevinbenton: ^^ | 19:22 |
anteaya | I'll work with kevinbenton to get it into shape | 19:23 |
anteaya | and I'm sure AJaeger will too | 19:23 |
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fungi | thanks again for a smooth maintenance, everyone | 19:23 |
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fungi | it went surprisingly quickly given the hundreds of repositories involved | 19:23 |
zaro | why the straggler? | 19:23 |
anteaya | AJaeger: ha ha ha | 19:23 |
fungi | zaro: the maintainers of the repo misread the announcements | 19:24 |
anteaya | zaro: I don't even, I"m so... | 19:24 |
anteaya | I even asked in -neutron on the wednesday prior | 19:24 |
anteaya | anyway | 19:24 |
kevinbenton | here is the project-config change https://review.openstack.org/237753 | 19:24 |
anteaya | kevinbenton: thank you | 19:24 |
kevinbenton | i was copycatting so i'm not sure if it's correct | 19:25 |
fungi | anything else on the stackforge namespace retirement? anyone aware of anything that got missed or issues which have cropped up since? | 19:25 |
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asselin | o/ | 19:25 |
zaro | we planning to move openstack-infra projects too? | 19:25 |
anteaya | zaro: oh please no | 19:25 |
zaro | or i mean do we have plan to | 19:25 |
nibalizer | noooo | 19:25 |
anteaya | I have a hard time finding what I want now | 19:25 |
AJaeger | zaro, there's little move from openstack-infra to openstack, so no need IMHO | 19:25 |
fungi | i don't think so at this stage. it would likely be a lot more disruptive to all the other projects if we did | 19:25 |
anteaya | zaro: I have no plan to | 19:26 |
zaro | ok, just wondering | 19:26 |
anteaya | zaro: yup, fair | 19:26 |
fungi | and the stackforge namespace retirement work was driven by a specific technical committee resolution | 19:26 |
fungi | okay, moving on | 19:26 |
fungi | #topic Summit planning | 19:26 |
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fungi | as i mentioned on the ml(s), the schedule is up | 19:27 |
fungi | #link http://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/type/Infrastructure | 19:27 |
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fungi | this is down to the wire, but if you happen to spot any _serious_ schedule conflicts i didn't take into account, please speak up asap | 19:27 |
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fungi | i'm working on getting the etherpads for them fleshed out and will add them to the schedule and to the etherpads list on the wiki within the next day or two | 19:28 |
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fungi | anyone have any burning questions or issues related to our summit planning? | 19:29 |
nibalizer | nope | 19:29 |
zaro | looks good | 19:30 |
fungi | note that the work session names are generic intentionally (for all tracks, not just infra's) to deter random walk-ins | 19:30 |
fungi | so you need to hover or click them to see which ones are which | 19:30 |
anteaya | if you can bother to click, chances are higher you will get something from the session | 19:30 |
anteaya | and have something to contribute | 19:31 |
fungi | also clarkb had some good tips about the print view working well for custom schedules | 19:31 |
anteaya | oh I missed those | 19:32 |
fungi | no idea if he's around at the moment | 19:32 |
anteaya | was it in channel? | 19:32 |
anteaya | I'll find them | 19:32 |
fungi | i don't think he mentioned them in public, no | 19:32 |
fungi | i'm just putting him on the spot if he's around, or at least crediting him | 19:32 |
nibalizer | im proxy for clarkb | 19:33 |
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fungi | perfect | 19:33 |
anteaya | nibalizer: what are the tips? | 19:33 |
fungi | anyway, there's a little printer icon up in the top right there | 19:33 |
anteaya | ah | 19:33 |
nibalizer | "if you click print in sched.org, there is a persobal schedule pribtout" | 19:33 |
zaro | nice~ | 19:33 |
anteaya | nibalizer: cool, thank you | 19:33 |
anteaya | nibalizer: thanks clarkb | 19:34 |
fungi | i'm going to print mine and bring it with me, because we're not guaranteed there will be paper schedules available at the venue (i know, we ask for it every year, but paper is scarce or something) | 19:34 |
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fungi | (in seriousness, the organizers already to an awesome job and i can understand how paper schedules might be a little tough to squeeze in on our short scheduling timeline) | 19:35 |
anteaya | fungi: yes, I can see that | 19:35 |
anteaya | awesome work organizers | 19:35 |
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fungi | so anyway, bringing a paper backup is good since we've had sched.org reachability/outage issues or even general conference network issues regularly in the past | 19:35 |
* zaro loves paper | 19:35 | |
anteaya | zaro: ha ha ha | 19:36 |
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anteaya | or if they think we are all ddosing the site | 19:36 |
fungi | it might not be completely up to date if someone tweaks something at the last minute, so prefer the electronic version if you have access, but paper is still handy | 19:36 |
anteaya | ah memories of hong kong | 19:36 |
ruagair | no ical exports? | 19:36 |
fungi | memories of just about every venue until vancouver honestly. that was the first time our networks and schedule access have been really, really solid | 19:37 |
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fungi | ruagair: i think the smart phone app might do that? not sure | 19:37 |
anteaya | fungi: yay vancouver | 19:37 |
ruagair | it did in Paris | 19:37 |
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fungi | interesting. i'll ask my more foundationy cohorts | 19:37 |
mordred | hey all - back online - what did I miss? | 19:37 |
fungi | mordred: just the meeting ;) | 19:38 |
fungi | your requested topic is up next actually. i put it at the end | 19:38 |
mordred | yay! | 19:38 |
anteaya | mordred: oh and zaro something something gerrit db migration rollback plan | 19:38 |
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mordred | yes. we should hav eone of those | 19:39 |
anteaya | mordred: he'd like your help | 19:39 |
mordred | because we had to come up with one suddenly last time | 19:39 |
mordred | I would like to help | 19:39 |
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anteaya | yay | 19:39 |
fungi | cool. okay, i think we're as prepped on the summit scheduling topic as can be, so i'll move on to the last item on the agenda | 19:39 |
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fungi | #topic Release the Hound! (mordred, taron) | 19:39 |
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taron | oh hello | 19:39 |
zaro | mordred: yeah, was wondering how you cobbled that together so quickly last time. | 19:40 |
fungi | mordred: so what's all this then? | 19:40 |
anteaya | taron: hey! | 19:40 |
mordred | so I dropped a hound link into the keystone meeting as an answer to a question | 19:40 |
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mordred | and then people were like "zomg what's that??" | 19:40 |
anteaya | mordred: ha ha ha | 19:40 |
mordred | which made me think "we should make it a thing" | 19:40 |
nibalizer | users! | 19:40 |
stevemar_ | mordred: can you blame us? | 19:40 |
taron | indeed | 19:40 |
taron | it is quite shiny | 19:40 |
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mordred | and I notiecd it still had a bunch of stackforges in it | 19:40 |
* AJaeger loves hound | 19:40 | |
mordred | so maybe we need to restart something post rename | 19:40 |
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anteaya | mordred: yes, it doesn't self update on renames | 19:40 |
taron | I still haven't figured out why the config.json is still causing puppet to complain | 19:40 |
mordred | which I htin we agreed would be ok from a process perspective | 19:40 |
mordred | so - my questions are ... should we consider the current one "live"? | 19:41 |
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anteaya | which is the current one? | 19:41 |
mordred | and shoudl we restart hound so that it picks up the renames? | 19:41 |
taron | current one is hound.o.o | 19:41 |
taron | which does not run my puppet, but that can be changed once I've sorted the config issue | 19:41 |
anteaya | if taht is waht it takes to pick up the renames, yes | 19:41 |
fungi | mordred: the current one is not puppeting according to puppetboard, so i don't consider it live | 19:41 |
mordred | ah. kk | 19:41 |
anteaya | yeah, I'm not a fan of what mordred is running | 19:41 |
anteaya | it isn't current with code in git.o.o | 19:42 |
mordred | so we're still waiting to roll out taron's puppet | 19:42 |
anteaya | mordred: no offense | 19:42 |
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anteaya | I am waiting | 19:42 |
mordred | cool. | 19:42 |
mordred | no me neither | 19:42 |
mordred | :) | 19:42 |
fungi | also, it would be nice to rebuild it from scratch at least once more to make sure the deployment config management is doing the right thing | 19:42 |
anteaya | the issue was a failing test taron was debugging | 19:42 |
taron | no idea what's going on with my puppet, so I'm going to spin up a test vm and see what happens | 19:42 |
mordred | ossum | 19:42 |
anteaya | taron: do ask for help | 19:42 |
anteaya | taron: so that you don't stay blocked | 19:42 |
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anteaya | taron: I was looking for you to ask, but I never saw you in channel | 19:42 |
mordred | I nominate nibalizer to help if it goes south ... I hear he understands puppet | 19:43 |
* mordred is excited | 19:43 | |
nibalizer | sure | 19:43 |
taron | ha, I was just about to poke him | 19:43 |
anteaya | taron: keep coming back to channel, please | 19:43 |
taron | I never leave :P | 19:43 |
anteaya | taron: good thank you | 19:43 |
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anteaya | taron: I'm looking forward to us running your code | 19:43 |
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taron | nibalizer: I shall have some questions about how resources work later | 19:44 |
nibalizer | sure thing | 19:44 |
fungi | i always have questions about how resources work | 19:44 |
taron | probably write them down and then poke you on thursday | 19:44 |
anteaya | taron: etherpad? | 19:44 |
anteaya | taron: then we can all look | 19:44 |
taron | good point | 19:44 |
fungi | or just a code review even | 19:44 |
fungi | sometimes code is the best means of communicating these things | 19:45 |
fungi | whatever works for you | 19:45 |
* taron nods | 19:45 | |
fungi | anything else hound-related? | 19:45 |
anteaya | even psuedocode | 19:45 |
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anteaya | then folks can comment in line | 19:45 |
taron | come to think of it I don't have anything to do at work at the moment, so I'll start drawing that up now | 19:45 |
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anteaya | taron: okay great | 19:46 |
fungi | your job sounds like mine! ;) | 19:46 |
anteaya | taron: thank you | 19:46 |
fungi | they never give me anything to do, so i just hack on openstack instead | 19:46 |
mordred | that's all I had | 19:46 |
taron | heh | 19:46 |
fungi | #topic Open discussion | 19:46 |
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fungi | heads up, i'll be absent (in body, not just mind for a change!) for nearly two weeks in the middle of next month. call it november 12-23 | 19:47 |
anteaya | fungi: nice | 19:47 |
anteaya | fungi: I hope you are schduling fun things | 19:47 |
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fungi | yeah, messing around in boats | 19:48 |
anteaya | nice | 19:48 |
nibalizer | fungi: sweet | 19:48 |
fungi | yucatan coast (southern mex and central-am) | 19:48 |
nibalizer | have fun | 19:48 |
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anteaya | oh I like it down there | 19:48 |
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anteaya | the mex part, never been to the central-am part | 19:48 |
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anteaya | that does sound like fun | 19:49 |
fungi | i expect so | 19:49 |
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fungi | internet access is pricey on the ship, so i expect to hack offline on some personal projects and as such won't be around | 19:50 |
anteaya | fungi: good call | 19:50 |
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anteaya | fungi: are you deputizing anyone in case of needing to make a decison on anything while you are away? | 19:50 |
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ianw | a request for any nodepoolers -> moving f22 nodes to fedora-minimal builds : https://review.openstack.org/237389 | 19:51 |
anteaya | or shall we do our best to devine your will? | 19:51 |
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anteaya | divine | 19:51 |
ianw | tihs will help me getting f22 up and f21 gone... | 19:51 |
fungi | i think my will is your will, so you can all get by without me | 19:51 |
anteaya | fungi: okey dokey | 19:51 |
zaro | would be nice to get ball rolling with Gerrit 2.11 builds, just need this patch series https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236010 | 19:52 |
fungi | i doubt things are going to be crazy a couple weeks after the summit anyway, so seemed like a good opportunity for some downtime | 19:52 |
anteaya | fungi: good call | 19:53 |
anteaya | fungi: if I can get enough folks together I might do the rename in your absence | 19:53 |
anteaya | fungi: I'm guessing you would be okay with that | 19:53 |
zaro | ahh, we had some discussion of planning a Gerrit cleanup which should happen before upgrade and happen seperate from the upgrade. | 19:53 |
fungi | more than okay with it ;) | 19:53 |
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anteaya | fungi: heh | 19:53 |
zaro | should we leave that for another meeting? | 19:53 |
anteaya | zaro: we have a few minutes | 19:54 |
anteaya | zaro: what gerrit cleanup? | 19:54 |
fungi | zaro: yeah, we can talk about it now and/or in our channel, and/or in tokyo | 19:54 |
zaro | cool. | 19:54 |
fungi | anteaya: some ancient cruft from older renames/deletions years back | 19:54 |
zaro | anteaya: gerrit git folder and db are out of sync | 19:54 |
anteaya | ah okay cool | 19:54 |
nibalizer | anteaya: before our project rename procedure was good we left cruft in the db | 19:54 |
fungi | before i think we had entirely nailed down what's involved | 19:55 |
anteaya | zaro: okey dokey | 19:55 |
anteaya | nibalizer: yup, getting the picture | 19:55 |
anteaya | do we need downtime for the cleanup? | 19:55 |
fungi | yeah | 19:55 |
anteaya | how about when the renames are scheduled? | 19:55 |
zaro | anteaya: yes, but minimal | 19:55 |
anteaya | there are only 3 | 19:55 |
anteaya | so 3 renames and gerrit cleanup in a gerrit downtime window a few weeks after summit | 19:56 |
fungi | it'll likely be quick: 1 stop gerrit, 2. backup database, 3. run cleanup query, 4. reindex lucene, 5. start gerrit and test to make sure it's okay | 19:56 |
anteaya | yeah? | 19:56 |
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zaro | fungi: ugh! always forget the reindex. | 19:56 |
zaro | that might be slowish | 19:56 |
fungi | it might make sense to not mix the cleanup with the rename maintenance just in case something goes wrong and we need to roll back | 19:56 |
zaro | ++ | 19:57 |
ruagair | ++ | 19:57 |
anteaya | fungi: ah okay, yeah that would make sense | 19:57 |
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zaro | i'll have an good esitmate from my testing though | 19:57 |
fungi | thanks zaro! | 19:58 |
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fungi | well, if nobody's got anything else, i'll go ahead and close the meeting | 19:59 |
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anteaya | thank you | 19:59 |
fungi | all -> #openstack-infra | 19:59 |
zaro | yes sir | 19:59 |
fungi | thanks again everybody! | 20:00 |
fungi | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Tue Oct 20 20:00:06 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2015/infra.2015-10-20-19.02.html | 20:00 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2015/infra.2015-10-20-19.02.txt | 20:00 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2015/infra.2015-10-20-19.02.log.html | 20:00 |
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fungi | fyi: if anyone's around expecting a tc meeting, i believe the tc is on hiatus until after the summit (next two weeks) | 20:00 |
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david-lyle | what is this congress?!? | 20:01 |
fungi | EmilienM: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/CrossProjectMeeting looks empty. are you going to cancel? | 20:01 |
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EmilienM | fungi: I was about to send an email | 20:01 |
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fungi | EmilienM: excellent! i'll take this opportunity to go out to eat ;) | 20:02 |
EmilienM | fungi: enjoy your meal | 20:02 |
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fungi | thanks EmilienM! enjoy your non-chairing | 20:05 |
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EmilienM | fungi: lol. | 20:06 |
fungi | easiest | 20:07 |
fungi | karma | 20:07 |
fungi | evar | 20:07 |
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nikhil | EmilienM: meeting? | 21:01 |
smcginnis | Cancelled | 21:01 |
EmilienM | yup, see ML | 21:01 |
jungleboyj | Okie Dokie. | 21:01 |
Piet | Quick ask before you leave? | 21:01 |
nikhil | oops, i must have missed it | 21:02 |
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nikhil | thanks! | 21:02 |
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Piet | The OpenStack UX team is having a meeting at the summit to plan research for the next six months. Please plan to attend if you need help understanding your users or want to test something. https://mitakadesignsummit.sched.org/event/acd92f2da4a41f940a4fc95131786908#.ViRRsRCrRTY | 21:03 |
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nikhil | thanks Piet, I know some | 21:04 |
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nikhil | fwding to the right channel | 21:04 |
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Piet | Thanks nikhil! I appreciate the help with this stuff! BTW - the etherpad is https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tokyo-ux-research | 21:08 |
nikhil | awesome, noted | 21:08 |
nikhil | duly :) | 21:08 |
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Piet | :) | 21:10 |
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