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| ikhudoshyn | #startmeeting Rally | 14:04 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 2 14:04:24 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ikhudoshyn. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Rally)" | 14:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rally' | 14:04 |
| andreykurilin | \o/ | 14:04 |
| ikhudoshyn | o/ | 14:04 |
| oanufriev_ | hi | 14:04 |
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| andreykurilin | we need more people:) | 14:05 |
| amaretskiy | hi | 14:05 |
| chenli | hi | 14:05 |
| ikhudoshyn | boris-42 seems trying to get sleep enough after the summit | 14:05 |
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| andreykurilin | yeah | 14:05 |
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| ikhudoshyn | we got a couple items in the agenda | 14:05 |
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| ikhudoshyn | let's start | 14:05 |
| ikhudoshyn | #topic [andreykurilin] Sudo access for rally user in docker container. - https://answers.launchpad.net/rally/+question/273388 | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "[andreykurilin] Sudo access for rally user in docker container. - https://answers.launchpad.net/rally/+question/273388 (Meeting topic: Rally)" | 14:06 | |
| ikhudoshyn | andreykurilin: your turn | 14:06 |
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| andreykurilin | this question was raisen a lot of times | 14:06 |
| andreykurilin | there are a lot of users, which want to use `sudo` inside container | 14:07 |
| andreykurilin | *docker container | 14:07 |
| andreykurilin | ` -u root` option for docker run sucks | 14:07 |
| andreykurilin | since it doesn't save the state of container | 14:07 |
| andreykurilin | as far as I remember, there were some comments from redixin side | 14:08 |
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| andreykurilin | but I don't remember why he dislike sudo rights inside our image | 14:08 |
| redixin | i dont dislike any rights, it just not docker way | 14:09 |
| andreykurilin | :) | 14:09 |
| redixin | any user can do anything with image using -u root | 14:09 |
| ikhudoshyn | is there a good reason why we dont use 'root' user, at all | 14:09 |
| ikhudoshyn | ? | 14:09 |
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| andreykurilin | redixin: as far as I understand, if user install some package and turn off container, all changes will be lost | 14:10 |
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| redixin | is there a good reason to why ppl not use 'root' user | 14:10 |
| andreykurilin | tight? | 14:10 |
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| andreykurilin | *right | 14:10 |
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| redixin | andreykurilin, there are 'image' and 'container' in docker | 14:10 |
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| redixin | image is read-only | 14:11 |
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| redixin | 'container' is created when user run any single command | 14:11 |
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| redixin | 'container' is clone of 'image' | 14:11 |
| redixin | with changes made by this command | 14:11 |
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| redixin | just read the docker docs before using it | 14:12 |
| redixin | omg | 14:12 |
| ikhudoshyn | redixin: i'd even say 'container' is kinda a process run from command | 14:12 |
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| andreykurilin | okey | 14:12 |
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| ikhudoshyn | in fact don't ppl use root at all? | 14:12 |
| ikhudoshyn | or do they | 14:12 |
| ikhudoshyn | ? | 14:12 |
| redixin | there is no need to be root for launch benchmark | 14:13 |
| ikhudoshyn | since there is nothing except rally in container, there is nothing to 'protect' from rally process | 14:13 |
| ikhudoshyn | am I wrong? | 14:13 |
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| andreykurilin | my point is "if we can not restrict usage of root for our image, we should not add a headache for those who want to do it" | 14:13 |
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| ikhudoshyn | redixin: no need, that's true | 14:14 |
| ikhudoshyn | andreykurilin: do not follow u | 14:14 |
| redixin | root is root even inside a jail | 14:15 |
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| ikhudoshyn | redixin: is it a general reasoning, or there is any particular use case when being root is evil inside container? | 14:15 |
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| ikhudoshyn | for me being root in a single user env sounds ok | 14:16 |
| redixin | is there any particular reason when being root is evil not inside a container? | 14:16 |
| ikhudoshyn | docker at all seems to be about apps, not users | 14:17 |
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| redixin | we should follow a best practices of using docker | 14:17 |
| oanufriev_ | docker is an LXC, first of all. So, LXC issues inherited | 14:18 |
| ikhudoshyn | redixin: absolutely agree, so I've asked, do people useanother user in docker instead of root | 14:18 |
| redixin | > If a service can run without privileges, use USER to change to a non-root user. | 14:18 |
| ikhudoshyn | ? | 14:18 |
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| oanufriev_ | and if you have root in container, than you have toot on whole host | 14:18 |
| oanufriev_ | s/toot/root | 14:19 |
| ikhudoshyn | oanufriev_: it's not the kind of behavior one could expect from 'jail' | 14:19 |
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| ikhudoshyn | redixin: ok sounds reasonable | 14:19 |
| ikhudoshyn | andreykurilin: back to your question.. | 14:20 |
| redixin | if we use 'root' instead of 'rally' user, there will be another questions to us. like "using root is bad. why are you using root?" | 14:20 |
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| ikhudoshyn | redixin: ok, I'm fine with 'rally' too | 14:21 |
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| ikhudoshyn | andreykurilin: am I right, it's about ability to make sudo? | 14:21 |
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| ikhudoshyn | hm.. andreykurilin ? | 14:23 |
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| redixin | we can make sudo for those people who dont want to use -u root for some reason | 14:24 |
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| ikhudoshyn | ok, we seem to lose andreykurilin for a while | 14:26 |
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| ikhudoshyn | redixin: sure we can)) but should we, really? | 14:26 |
| ikhudoshyn | do we want to elaborate morenow, without topicstarter? | 14:27 |
| ikhudoshyn | or just move to the next topic for a while? | 14:28 |
| redixin | ikhudoshyn, it may be useful if we want to just fast install and try some stuff | 14:28 |
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| ikhudoshyn | redixin: yes, that's understood | 14:29 |
| redixin | like if we already inside a container, and not want to spend one minute to go out and run -u root | 14:29 |
| ikhudoshyn | yep. Ok, let's just fix that | 14:29 |
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| andreykurilin | sorry) | 14:30 |
| ikhudoshyn | andreykurilin: it's ok | 14:30 |
| ikhudoshyn | great to see u back | 14:30 |
| andreykurilin | ikhudoshyn: "am I right, it's about ability to make sudo?" yes | 14:31 |
| ikhudoshyn | looks like we're fine to just add sudo | 14:31 |
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| andreykurilin | "yep. Ok, let's just fix that" nice | 14:31 |
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| ikhudoshyn | can we just add 'NOPASSWD:' line to sudo conf, so that we could continue w/o passwd | 14:32 |
| ikhudoshyn | ? | 14:32 |
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| andreykurilin | I suppose it would be nice to have a simple password | 14:32 |
| redixin | oh no | 14:32 |
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| andreykurilin | so users will think about "do I really need sudo" | 14:33 |
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| redixin | +1 for no password | 14:33 |
| andreykurilin | :( | 14:33 |
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| andreykurilin | ok | 14:33 |
| ikhudoshyn | +1 for no passwd | 14:33 |
| amaretskiy | can we save limited commands list to sudores? | 14:33 |
| ikhudoshyn | amaretskiy: that's not wjhat ppl expect I believe | 14:34 |
| amaretskiy | ok, sorry | 14:34 |
| ikhudoshyn | and making people finding out password just to find out that there is no one exist does not look like good usability | 14:35 |
| ikhudoshyn | amaretskiy: dont be)) | 14:35 |
| ikhudoshyn | lets vote: add sudo, no password | 14:35 |
| ikhudoshyn | +1 | 14:35 |
| ikhudoshyn | redixin: we've seen yours | 14:35 |
| amaretskiy | i'm in doubts, no vote :( | 14:35 |
| ikhudoshyn | andreykurilin: ? | 14:36 |
| ikhudoshyn | any other vote? | 14:36 |
| andreykurilin | I'm for "add sudo, add password" | 14:36 |
| andreykurilin | :) | 14:36 |
| ikhudoshyn | andreykurilin: how user will find out one? | 14:37 |
| redixin | docker -u root not asks password | 14:37 |
| andreykurilin | rally.readthedocs | 14:37 |
| ikhudoshyn | andreykurilin: r u serious? )) | 14:37 |
| andreykurilin | dockerhub | 14:37 |
| andreykurilin | yes, I'm serious) | 14:37 |
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| andreykurilin | If you look at https://answers.launchpad.net/rally/+question/273388 , user read the doc | 14:38 |
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| andreykurilin | ok, I'm not strictly for "add password" | 14:39 |
| ikhudoshyn | well, I'd, personally, not to make user doing that | 14:39 |
| andreykurilin | so let's do it without password and don't wast more meeting minutes for this question:) | 14:39 |
| ikhudoshyn | ))) | 14:39 |
| ikhudoshyn | good | 14:39 |
| oanufriev_ | @ikhudoshyn: >> andreykurilin: how user will find out one?; How about some shell banner insight docker? | 14:40 |
| ikhudoshyn | we could change it back any way | 14:40 |
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| ikhudoshyn | oanufriev_: why bother? | 14:40 |
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| ikhudoshyn | it's like having yr password ona yellow sticker on yr monitor)) | 14:41 |
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| oanufriev_ | no. Look at ciiros | 14:41 |
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| andreykurilin | Sorry guys, I need to go, bye | 14:41 |
| ikhudoshyn | ok let's set it like 'add sudo, no passwd' and move on | 14:41 |
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| ikhudoshyn | andreykurilin: bye | 14:41 |
| ikhudoshyn | #topic [rvasilets] Fix timeout for scenario runners: - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235910/ | 14:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "[rvasilets] Fix timeout for scenario runners: - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/235910/ (Meeting topic: Rally)" | 14:42 | |
| ikhudoshyn | rvasilets: ur welcome | 14:42 |
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| rvasilets | Hi | 14:42 |
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| rvasilets | Currently I'm changing one of the most deep thing in Rally - runner. This change will affect to all code that would be running with rps and constant runner. So I invite you to review it. | 14:44 |
| ikhudoshyn | rvasilets: could u elaborate more on what and why do u do it? | 14:44 |
| rvasilets | Its about add ability to terminate thread of scenario by timeout | 14:44 |
| rvasilets | Because now we have a bug | 14:44 |
| rvasilets | it attached in commit msg | 14:44 |
| rvasilets | If we specify timeout in config for runner. Scenario woudn't be terminated after timeout. In cause if it executed longer | 14:46 |
| ikhudoshyn | rvasilets: I see redixin commented it a lot. Do you want to dicsuss it now? | 14:46 |
| ikhudoshyn | Or just do you ask team to review for now? | 14:46 |
| rvasilets | redixin comment I have discuss with him previously | 14:46 |
| rvasilets | Just ask for review. | 14:47 |
| ikhudoshyn | have you agreed? | 14:47 |
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| ikhudoshyn | ok, we'll do. I will at least) | 14:47 |
| redixin | rvasilets, did you see my last commends about 'deadline'? | 14:47 |
| rvasilets | yes | 14:47 |
| rvasilets | I don't understand how the snippet of code allows us to avoid 100% CPU usage | 14:48 |
| rvasilets | its the same as mine in term on usage CPU | 14:48 |
| redixin | qeue.get will block | 14:48 |
| redixin | cpu is not used when thread is blocked on queue.get(timeout=.... | 14:48 |
| rvasilets | But you get item in all cases. If we don;t need to get new item | 14:50 |
| redixin | we don't know if there is new items in queue | 14:50 |
| rvasilets | Ok. We could write so. Or just add time.sleep(0.001) | 14:50 |
| redixin | sleep-driven-development | 14:51 |
| rvasilets | Of cause I'm for adding simple sleep | 14:51 |
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| redixin | why we should use sleep, and take unnecessary cycles? | 14:51 |
| redixin | we can avoid this | 14:52 |
| rvasilets | and what?) You solution is the same. Just sleep is hidden inside get() | 14:52 |
| redixin | there is no unnecessary cycles | 14:52 |
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| redixin | hmmm. seems i wrong | 14:52 |
| rvasilets | Ok. We will discuss it late | 14:53 |
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| redixin | if we use blocking queue.get then we need to wait additional time when waiting for thread.join | 14:53 |
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| redixin | ill think more about it | 14:54 |
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| rvasilets | ok | 14:54 |
| ikhudoshyn | redixin, rvasilets : are we fine for a while, take it offline? | 14:54 |
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| redixin | yes | 14:55 |
| ikhudoshyn | ok | 14:55 |
| ikhudoshyn | #topic Open discussion | 14:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussion (Meeting topic: Rally)" | 14:55 | |
| ikhudoshyn | we have couple minutes | 14:55 |
| ikhudoshyn | and I forgot to update agenda | 14:55 |
| ikhudoshyn | so here goes mine)) | 14:55 |
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| ikhudoshyn | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/239406/ -- it's about merging lists of task iteration results, now green | 14:56 |
| ikhudoshyn | pls review | 14:56 |
| redixin | ok | 14:56 |
| amaretskiy | ok | 14:56 |
| ikhudoshyn | some doc is in a pipeline | 14:56 |
| ikhudoshyn | tnx | 14:56 |
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| ikhudoshyn | anybody else to add something? | 14:57 |
| amaretskiy | no | 14:57 |
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| ikhudoshyn | then we're done | 14:57 |
| rvasilets | no | 14:57 |
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| ikhudoshyn | bye everybody | 14:58 |
| ikhudoshyn | #endofmeeting | 14:58 |
| ikhudoshyn | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:58 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 2 14:58:31 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2015/rally.2015-11-02-14.04.html | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2015/rally.2015-11-02-14.04.txt | 14:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2015/rally.2015-11-02-14.04.log.html | 14:58 |
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| anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 2 15:00:02 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: third-party)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:00 |
| anteaya | hello | 15:00 |
| mmedvede | hi anteaya | 15:00 |
| mmedvede | how was the summit? | 15:00 |
| anteaya | how are you mmedvede | 15:00 |
| anteaya | good, busy | 15:00 |
| mmedvede | I am good, thanks | 15:00 |
| anteaya | great | 15:00 |
| lennyb | Hi anteaya, mmedvede | 15:01 |
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| anteaya | thanks for taking the meeting the monday before summit, I appreciate it | 15:01 |
| anteaya | hi lennyb | 15:01 |
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| mmedvede | anteaya: you're welcome | 15:01 |
| anteaya | what shall we discuss today? | 15:01 |
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| lennyb | anteaya: I have nothing interesting | 15:02 |
| anteaya | lennyb: okay, thanks for letting us know | 15:02 |
| anteaya | mmedvede: anything new from your side? | 15:02 |
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| mmedvede | no, nothing from me | 15:03 |
| anteaya | okay | 15:03 |
| lennyb | mmedvede: are you testing stable/liberty? | 15:03 |
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| mmedvede | lennyb: I think we should be. I need to make sure, thanks for reminder | 15:04 |
| mmedvede | lennyb: did you see any problems with stable/liberty? | 15:04 |
| lennyb | it fails for us due to tempest-lib version. I've posted a patch #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240875/ but I wander if it's only me fails on those things | 15:04 |
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| anteaya | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/240875/ | 15:04 |
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| anteaya | lennyb: thanks for mentioning it | 15:06 |
| eantyshev | Hello, sorry for being late | 15:06 |
| anteaya | eantyshev: hello | 15:06 |
| anteaya | nice to see you | 15:06 |
| mmedvede | lennyb: on a quick check, I can see that our CI (IBM PowerKVM CI) has passed one of stable/liberty patches on nova https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237411/ | 15:06 |
| lennyb | mmedvede: we are removing all the tests-requirements each time, maybe this is the reason for those issues for us | 15:06 |
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| eantyshev | anteaya: thanks! | 15:06 |
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| mmedvede | lennyb: very well may be. We had problems with requirements, but managed to fix it, and try to stick with what upstream uses | 15:07 |
| anteaya | lennyb: what do you mean you are removing the requirements each time? | 15:07 |
| anteaya | lennyb: why are you doing that? | 15:07 |
| lennyb | anteaya: to do a 'clean' run | 15:08 |
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| lennyb | #paste http://paste.openstack.org/show/477796/ | 15:08 |
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| lennyb | anteaya: and to find bugs of course | 15:09 |
| anteaya | lennyb: are you not using a fresh node each test run? | 15:09 |
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| lennyb | anteaya: no, we have OFED configurations, so we are removing devstack only | 15:10 |
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| anteaya | what is OFED? | 15:11 |
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| lennyb | anteaya: OpenFabric Infiniband Networking configuration | 15:11 |
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| lennyb | anteaya: we are configuring our HW | 15:11 |
| anteaya | why does that prevent you from spinning up a new node? | 15:12 |
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| lennyb | anteaya: overhead of installing new OS. We cant do it on VM | 15:12 |
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| anteaya | lennyb: do you logs state that this is your testing environment? | 15:12 |
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| lennyb | anteaya: what do you mean? | 15:13 |
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| anteaya | in the logs for your tests, do you inform consumers of your logs that this is your testing environment? | 15:14 |
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| lennyb | anteaya: I guess in the wiki page | 15:15 |
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| anteaya | lennyb: what is the name of your system again? https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems | 15:16 |
| lennyb | #link anteaya: those who are interested in Mellanox products | 15:16 |
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| lennyb | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/ThirdPartySystems/Mellanox_CI | 15:17 |
| anteaya | I don't see the place in the wikipage where you inform folks that you reuse your node | 15:18 |
| lennyb | anteaya: did not think it should be there. I will add it shortly | 15:18 |
| anteaya | okay thanks lennyb | 15:18 |
| anteaya | yes any configuration that diverts from what openstack's infra testing does should be noted | 15:19 |
| anteaya | as folks consuming your logs don't have any other way of knowing this | 15:19 |
| anteaya | thank you | 15:19 |
| mmedvede | to be fair, I do not think ours explicitly mentions that we use single use slaves, I guess it is assumed | 15:19 |
| anteaya | anything else on this topic? | 15:19 |
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| anteaya | mmedvede: well yes, I do assume single use nodes | 15:19 |
| anteaya | mmedvede: but it is always good to be explict | 15:20 |
| anteaya | I didn't know folks were re-using nodes | 15:20 |
| anteaya | so that kind of caught me by surprise | 15:20 |
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| anteaya | so telling people what you are doing is really helpful | 15:20 |
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| anteaya | anything else on this topic? | 15:21 |
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| anteaya | does anyone else have anything they would like to discuss? | 15:22 |
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| anteaya | does anyone have any objection to me closing the meeting? | 15:23 |
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| anteaya | thanks everyone for your attendance and participation | 15:24 |
| anteaya | see you next week | 15:24 |
| anteaya | #endmeeting | 15:24 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2015/third_party.2015-11-02-15.00.html | 15:24 |
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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Nov 2 16:00:39 2015 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:00 |
| rakhmerov | hi | 16:00 |
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| NikolayM | hi everyone! | 16:01 |
| akuznetsova | hi | 16:01 |
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| _gryf | hi | 16:01 |
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| rakhmerov | hey | 16:01 |
| rakhmerov | just 2 more minutes | 16:02 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, I guess nobody else is comming | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | ok, looks like more folks actually may come | 16:05 |
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| rakhmerov | so let's go through agenda | 16:06 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic Review action items | 16:06 |
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| rakhmerov | since we haven't had meetings for a while we don't have any AIs now to review | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | done | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) | 16:07 |
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| rakhmerov | my status: I just returned from the summit today so I was just busy with the summit last week | 16:08 |
| ^Gal^ | helllllo | 16:08 |
| rakhmerov | ^Gal^: heey, welcome! | 16:08 |
| ^Gal^ | the other guys are coming, we're not used to that new timezone | 16:08 |
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| rakhmerov | ^Gal^: new timezone? What do you mean? | 16:09 |
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| ^Gal^ | oh, it's 18:00 now in Israel | 16:09 |
| melisha | Hi all | 16:09 |
| ^Gal^ | we used to have the meeting on 19:00 | 16:09 |
| ^Gal^ | winter clock | 16:09 |
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| rakhmerov | ooh, it's because winter | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | yeah, Russia stopped doing that last year | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | since last year | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | yep | 16:10 |
| ^Gal^ | lol | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | ^Gal^: but it became more convenient for you now, right? | 16:10 |
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| ^Gal^ | yeah :) | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | melisha: hi, glad you're with us! | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | so if there's any status on Mistral please all report | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | just briefly | 16:11 |
| NikolayM | my status: Fixing bug with wrong task initialization and not creating execution; Found bug related to wrong calculation of execution state with condition transitions | 16:11 |
| ^Gal^ | Status update: | 16:11 |
| ^Gal^ | Working on Execution screens on which I’m polishing anything. | 16:11 |
| LimorStotland | hi all | 16:11 |
| ^Gal^ | Have made progress with the execution action buttons from the main table. | 16:11 |
| ^Gal^ | Don’t have any technical roadblocks in mind | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | issues, roadblocks, plans | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | LimorStotland: hi | 16:11 |
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| melisha | rakhmerov: Thanks. Glad to be here | 16:11 |
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| akuznetsova | I tested new mistral feature: connectivity to vm in the guest vm and corresponding examples | 16:11 |
| LimorStotland | my status . i opened the bps we talk about at the summit. | 16:11 |
| melisha | We are now starting to test load and stability on Liberty - we saw some issues that we are investigating and will open bugs according to results | 16:12 |
| akuznetsova | *guest network | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | 1 | 16:13 |
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| rakhmerov | LimorStotland: can you provide links to these BPs please? | 16:14 |
| LimorStotland | sure...in a sec | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | melisha: ok, please do | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | melisha: anything serious so far? | 16:14 |
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| LimorStotland | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/workflow-group | 16:14 |
| LimorStotland | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/multi-region-support | 16:14 |
| LimorStotland | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/history-of-workflow-executions | 16:15 |
| LimorStotland | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/mistral/+spec/fallback-mechanism-for-scheduler | 16:15 |
| LimorStotland | rakhmerov : did i forget anything ? | 16:15 |
| melisha | rakhmerov: Saw some issues related to HA (cron trigger executed twice, execution stays in RUNNING forever, ...) and some for load - when having many workflow executions - you can no longer list them. It looks like pagination is mandatory | 16:16 |
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| melisha | rakhmerov: We are looking into the details and will open bugs / fix accordingly | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | LimorStotland: to me it seems like the most important things are covered, I'll also check myself tomorrow morning | 16:16 |
| LimorStotland | ok | 16:17 |
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| rakhmerov | melisha: cron trigger executed twice - known issue, especially if you run more than 1 engine. As far as being forever in RUNNING state Nikolay discovered a bug related to this last week also | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | we have some ideas on what it can be and how to fix it | 16:18 |
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| LimorStotland | what causing it? | 16:19 |
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| rakhmerov | most likely, wrong transactional model | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | it's not verified yet | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | ok, let's move on | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Quickly highlight what we did at the summit | 16:20 |
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| rakhmerov | so, we probably shouldn't spend much time on this topic because I guess everyone at this meeting already knows about everything | 16:21 |
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| rakhmerov | just wanted to summarize a little bit | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | so, we had two etherpads: | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mistral-tokyo-summit-2015 | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mistral-tokyo-summit-2015-notes | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | the first one had a list of topics and the second one was initially blank before the summit and we put some thoughts and action items there | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | it's not sorted out thought yet but, e.g., Limor has already created BPs based on it | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | I'm actually glad that we've discussed 90% of all we planned | 16:23 |
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| rakhmerov | and very pleased with decisions we came to | 16:23 |
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| rakhmerov | I wasn't gonna talk much about details now but if you have some specific questions we can talk | 16:24 |
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| rakhmerov | my plan was that based on that we create BPs, prioritize them and scope them | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | another thing we'll do very soon is spec repository | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | all non-trivial things will be written in specs first and pushed into that repo as for other projects | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | any questions you'd like to ask now? | 16:26 |
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| ^Gal^ | hmm don't have any | 16:28 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:28 |
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| rakhmerov | melisha: have you already been told everything by colleagues? :) | 16:28 |
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| melisha | rakhmerov | 16:29 |
| melisha | most likely, wrong transactional model | 16:29 |
| melisha | rakhmerov: :-) Yes. Thanks! | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | ok :) | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | so, I'll work a little more on those etherpads and create all needed BPs and bugs | 16:29 |
| rakhmerov | tomorrow | 16:29 |
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| rakhmerov | and I'll ask your opinion on priorities | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | we can actually have a planning session as we did a couple of months ago | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | ok | 16:30 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Discuss major items for Mitaka roadmap | 16:31 |
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| LimorStotland | sound good | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | so from my perspective major items for the next 6 months: | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | 1. Stability, HA | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | 2. Multi-region support | 16:31 |
| rakhmerov | 3. UI | 16:31 |
| ^Gal^ | UI! | 16:32 |
| ^Gal^ | :D | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | yes ;) | 16:32 |
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| rakhmerov | be ready! | 16:32 |
| rakhmerov | for the hard work :) | 16:32 |
| akuznetsova | less then 6 months | 16:32 |
| ^Gal^ | bring on the the big guns | 16:32 |
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| rakhmerov | akuznetsova: yes, approximately 5 | 16:33 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:33 |
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| rakhmerov | so just wanted to ask you to name top 3 things we need to focus on? Is there anything I didn't say? | 16:34 |
| rakhmerov | of course, #1 includes lots of things like optimizing DB access, performance etc. | 16:35 |
| rakhmerov | getting rid of dead locks | 16:35 |
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| rakhmerov | but that's kind of a high-level vision that we ideally should agree on | 16:35 |
| akuznetsova | agreed with your list, HA is the thing that had to be tested and fixed long time ago | 16:36 |
| LimorStotland | we are good to | 16:36 |
| _gryf | +1 for HA | 16:37 |
| rakhmerov | akuznetsova: yes, we still didn't do it on a serious basis: testing, profiling etc. | 16:37 |
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| rakhmerov | alright! | 16:37 |
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| rakhmerov | as usually, we have a lot to do | 16:38 |
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| rakhmerov | which is very good | 16:38 |
| rakhmerov | just one more thing about the summit and the current situation in community around Mistral | 16:38 |
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| rakhmerov | I had many people approaching me and asking different question about Mistral | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | heard so many conversations around me about Mistral, and I didn't even know those people | 16:39 |
| rakhmerov | a number of companies are committed to using Mistral in their projects. E.g. Huawei in Israel announced that they're going to use Mistral in at least 2 projects | 16:40 |
| akuznetsova | it is a huge success for Mistral ! | 16:41 |
| ^Gal^ | Israel is awesome | 16:41 |
| ^Gal^ | lol just kidding | 16:41 |
| rakhmerov | a number of partners are already explaining their customers how to solve certain tasks with Mistral (can't disclose them all, but there are at least 3 huge ones) | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | ^Gal^: yes, it is! | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | so that all makes me thing we are on the right track and the project definitely has future | 16:42 |
| rakhmerov | from this perspective the summit was very promising to me and in fact one of the most successful so far | 16:43 |
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| ^Gal^ | :D :D | 16:43 |
| _gryf | and this is the reason, why we should focus on the stability and ha | 16:43 |
| rakhmerov | sorry if it all sounds like "bla-bla-bla" kind of advertisement bullshit but it's really important to me to realize | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | _gryf: exactly right | 16:44 |
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| ^Gal^ | and UI :P | 16:44 |
| akuznetsova | :-D | 16:44 |
| rakhmerov | I think if we make it really stable and mature then the user base will grow dramatically | 16:44 |
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| ^Gal^ | +3 | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | because, honestly, I'm aware of people who tried Mistral and decided not to go with it | 16:46 |
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| rakhmerov | fortunately, most of such cases that I'm aware of were months ago | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | now I'm becoming more confident about it | 16:46 |
| rakhmerov | ok, it's time for me to shut up :) | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Open Discussion | 16:47 |
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| ^Gal^ | lol | 16:47 |
| rakhmerov | ^Gal^: yeah, sometimes you just need to say it to me directly! :) Otherwise, I can just pollute the channel with my stories ) | 16:48 |
| rakhmerov | ok, is there anything else to discuss now? | 16:49 |
| akuznetsova | advertisement pause has finished ) | 16:49 |
| rakhmerov | akuznetsova: yes :)) | 16:49 |
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| akuznetsova | no, let's create all needed bps, prioritize them and start to work! | 16:49 |
| rakhmerov | +2 :) | 16:50 |
| ^Gal^ | let's party first | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | getting down to work is what I like most ) | 16:50 |
| rakhmerov | ^Gal^: should I go to Israel for that or what?? :) | 16:50 |
| akuznetsova | yes, I like yours ideas more | 16:50 |
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| akuznetsova | rakhmerov, take me too | 16:51 |
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| ^Gal^ | rakhmerov: lol yeah :) | 16:51 |
| ^Gal^ | akuznetsova: welcome! | 16:51 |
| rakhmerov | akuznetsova: how about gathering the whole crowd in Saratov? :)) | 16:51 |
| akuznetsova | hmmm | 16:51 |
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| NikolayM | :D | 16:51 |
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| akuznetsova | ino | 16:51 |
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| akuznetsova | no | 16:51 |
| rakhmerov | why not? | 16:51 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 16:52 |
| rakhmerov | I now know a couple of good drinking places :) | 16:52 |
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| akuznetsova | winter is coming) | 16:52 |
| akuznetsova | summer is the better time | 16:52 |
| ^Gal^ | my place got flooded last week | 16:53 |
| rakhmerov | folks from Israel just need to bring their skis :) | 16:53 |
| ^Gal^ | :P | 16:53 |
| rakhmerov | btw, we already have down to -15 C sometimes | 16:54 |
| rakhmerov | which is fun! | 16:54 |
| ^Gal^ | lol have some UI summit in Russia and bring me | 16:54 |
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| akuznetsova | let's wrap the meeting | 16:56 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:56 |
| rakhmerov | sorry, I was distracted by something.. | 16:56 |
| rakhmerov | thanks for joining! | 16:56 |
| rakhmerov | bye! | 16:56 |
| melisha | Thanks. Bye all. | 16:56 |
| LimorStotland | bye | 16:57 |
| akuznetsova | bye | 16:57 |
| _gryf | thx, bye | 16:57 |
| NikolayM | bye! | 16:57 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 16:57 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:57 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Nov 2 16:57:11 2015 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-11-02-16.00.html | 16:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-11-02-16.00.txt | 16:57 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2015/mistral.2015-11-02-16.00.log.html | 16:57 |
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| Truong | Hi all | 21:02 |
| Truong | Is there a session for neutron meeting now? | 21:03 |
| SurajD | Truong, i am waiting for the same at 2.30 am IST | 21:04 |
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| Truong | Thanks SurajD. It should start at 21:00 UCT which is 1:00 PM Pacific Time right now | 21:05 |
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| SurajD | Truong, yep waiting for it | 21:07 |
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| SurajD | Truong, no meeting this week | 21:13 |
| SurajD | maybe next week | 21:13 |
| Truong | oh | 21:14 |
| Truong | where do you get the information? | 21:14 |
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| SurajD | Truong, from openstack-neutron irc channel | 21:15 |
| Truong | thanks SurajD | 21:15 |
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| SurajD | Truong, http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-October/078051.html | 21:16 |
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| Truong | I appreciate your information :) | 21:17 |
| Truong | see you next week | 21:17 |
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| SurajD | Truong, see you | 21:23 |
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