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Yipei | Hi | 12:41 |
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Yipei_ | Hi, Joe | 12:56 |
Yipei_ | Can you see my message? | 12:57 |
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Yipei_ | Hi Zhiyuan | 12:59 |
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zhiyuan | hi yipei | 13:00 |
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joehuang | jhi | 13:01 |
joehuang | yes, I can see your mesxage | 13:01 |
joehuang | just have a phone call | 13:01 |
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joehuang | hello, let's start the meeting | 13:01 |
Yipei_ | OK. | 13:02 |
joehuang | #startmeeting tricircle | 13:02 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 13 13:02:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is joehuang. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:02 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:02 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tricircle' | 13:02 |
joehuang | hi, Yipei, welcome to join tricircle, could you pls introduce your self? | 13:02 |
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Yipei_ | OK. Hi everybody, My name is Yipei | 13:03 |
Yipei_ | I am a master student of Huazhong university of science and technology | 13:03 |
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joehuang | great, I graduated from HUST too | 13:04 |
zhiyuan | welcome to join! | 13:04 |
joehuang | #topic rollcall | 13:04 |
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joehuang | #info joehuang | 13:04 |
zhiyuan | #info zhiyuan | 13:04 |
Yipei_ | really?! Which year? | 13:05 |
joehuang | 1999 | 13:05 |
joehuang | old enough | 13:05 |
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joehuang | #topic phase2 progress | 13:06 |
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joehuang | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TricircleToDo | 13:06 |
Yipei_ | you must be experienced | 13:06 |
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joehuang | let's look at the todolist | 13:06 |
Yipei_ | OK | 13:06 |
joehuang | #info cinder volume CRUD patch was merged today | 13:07 |
joehuang | Zhiyuan, how about your patch | 13:08 |
zhiyuan | I just submitted a refined patch, the exception when operating bottom OpenStack is considered | 13:08 |
joehuang | ok, review tomorrow. | 13:09 |
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zhiyuan | when neutron plugin fails to attach interfaces in bottom pod, it will try to delete the interfaces on top and bottom | 13:10 |
zhiyuan | if deleting operation fails again, the top interface will remain unbound, user can use it to attach again | 13:10 |
joehuang | any resource either could be rolled back, or could be reused again. | 13:11 |
joehuang | if something failed during the operation to bottom openstack | 13:12 |
joehuang | I think this could be one of our design principle | 13:12 |
joehuang | #info any resource either could be rolled back, or could be reused again if something failed during the operation to bottom openstack | 13:13 |
joehuang | hi Yipei, which feature do you want to be the first step for your, or some bugs? | 13:14 |
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joehuang | We can help you to be family with adding code to tricircle | 13:15 |
Yipei_ | I am still trying to get familiar with the project | 13:15 |
joehuang | more help needed? | 13:15 |
Yipei_ | Yes | 13:16 |
joehuang | for example | 13:16 |
Yipei_ | I read the blueprint of tircircle | 13:16 |
joehuang | any question | 13:16 |
Yipei_ | i feel much better than solely reading source code | 13:17 |
Yipei_ | but i just don't know where and how to get started | 13:17 |
joehuang | you can try playing tricircle with devstack | 13:18 |
joehuang | #link https://github.com/openstack/tricircle/tree/experiment | 13:18 |
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Yipei_ | OK. I will try | 13:19 |
joehuang | you can see how the process will run, receive and process request | 13:19 |
zhiyuan | to yipei, do you know the motivation of Tricircle? | 13:19 |
Yipei_ | yes, sure | 13:20 |
joehuang | all services are started from the scripts located in cmd folder | 13:20 |
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zhiyuan | so maybe you can start from the data model, like Pod, PodBing, ResourceRoutgin | 13:20 |
zhiyuan | s/ResourceRoutgin/ResourceRouting | 13:21 |
Yipei_ | OK, got it | 13:21 |
joehuang | yes, I think Yipei can try to add some fields to the pod table, | 13:21 |
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zhiyuan | then you can dig into the volume controller, I think it's easy to understand than nova, neutron, since not many resource dependency | 13:22 |
joehuang | now the "group affinity" field is missing in the pod table | 13:22 |
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joehuang | yes, cinder-apigw is relative easy to understand | 13:22 |
zhiyuan | the volume controller was merged just now, as Joe said | 13:22 |
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joehuang | hi, Zhiyuan, I changed the doc update to done for the task"DHCP""networking concurrency" | 13:24 |
zhiyuan | ok, thanks joe | 13:24 |
joehuang | zhiyuan, if we move the experiment to master, is it a big impact to your patch? | 13:25 |
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zhiyuan | I think it's better after the l3 networking part1 patch is merged | 13:26 |
joehuang | ok | 13:26 |
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zhiyuan | otherwise I am not sure whether I can figure out which files to copy to master branch | 13:27 |
joehuang | understand | 13:27 |
joehuang | our experiment has already given us very positive feedback | 13:28 |
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joehuang | it's time to move experiment to master | 13:28 |
zhiyuan | that's cool | 13:28 |
joehuang | so tricircle will use stateless design in the master | 13:28 |
joehuang | #info move the experiment branch to master to adopt stateless design for Tricircle service | 13:29 |
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joehuang | any other topic to be discussed? | 13:29 |
zhiyuan | oh, maybe we can start to use #openstack-tricircle channel | 13:30 |
Yipei_ | next week, i plan to play tricircle with devstack and then understand the data model. if smooth, i will try to add some fields in the pod table | 13:30 |
Yipei_ | how about it? | 13:30 |
joehuang | thanks Yipei | 13:30 |
zhiyuan | so yipei can discuss with joe and me online | 13:30 |
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joehuang | yes good ides | 13:30 |
joehuang | #info use openstack-tricircle channel for daily communication | 13:31 |
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joehuang | and I'll start the "quota" feature in phase2 | 13:31 |
joehuang | because I want to find out whether there is some issue for quota control | 13:32 |
zhiyuan | ok, I will take item1 then item4 | 13:32 |
joehuang | we can move VM operation to phase 3 | 13:33 |
joehuang | any more topics? | 13:34 |
zhiyuan | no for me | 13:34 |
Yipei_ | no for me | 13:34 |
joehuang | Yiper's suggestion is a good stat | 13:34 |
joehuang | stat -> start | 13:35 |
joehuang | ok | 13:35 |
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joehuang | let's conclude the meeting | 13:35 |
joehuang | thanks for attending, have a nice day | 13:35 |
joehuang | #endmeeting | 13:35 |
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 13:35 | |
zhiyuan | good night | 13:35 |
openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 13 13:35:29 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:35 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-01-13-13.02.html | 13:35 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-01-13-13.02.txt | 13:35 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-01-13-13.02.log.html | 13:35 |
Yipei_ | bye | 13:35 |
joehuang | goodnight | 13:35 |
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ShillaSaebi | #startmeeting docteam | 14:01 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 13 14:01:34 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ShillaSaebi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'docteam' | 14:01 |
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berendt | hi there | 14:02 |
ShillaSaebi | hello, anyone here for the docs team meeting? | 14:02 |
ShillaSaebi | hi berendt | 14:02 |
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berendt | nothing from my side at the moment, if nobody else is here we can skip the meeting | 14:03 |
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Sam-I-Am | hmmmm | 14:04 |
ShillaSaebi | hi Sam-I-Am | 14:04 |
Sam-I-Am | i think your calendar might be a week off | 14:04 |
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ShillaSaebi | last meeting we had for US was 12/16 | 14:05 |
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Sam-I-Am | but hello anyway :) | 14:05 |
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Sam-I-Am | according to the ics file, the us meeting is next week | 14:05 |
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Sam-I-Am | other projects had this problem too | 14:05 |
ShillaSaebi | hmmm | 14:06 |
ShillaSaebi | really | 14:06 |
ShillaSaebi | today is the right date for it | 14:06 |
ShillaSaebi | i wonder how that happened | 14:06 |
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Sam-I-Am | http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/irc-meetings/tree/meetings/doc-team-meeting.yaml | 14:06 |
Sam-I-Am | biweekly-odd for this time | 14:07 |
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Sam-I-Am | january started on a friday, so if thats considered the first week, this is the third week | 14:07 |
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ShillaSaebi | ok so maybe because it reset | 14:08 |
ShillaSaebi | for the biweekly | 14:08 |
ShillaSaebi | ok thats fine, lets meet next week again then | 14:08 |
Sam-I-Am | if odd/even is based on the year, it did reset | 14:09 |
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ShillaSaebi | unless anyone has anything they want to bring up? | 14:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | i should go read the docs :) | 14:09 |
ShillaSaebi | lol | 14:09 |
smcginnis | This might explain: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2015-December/082902.html | 14:09 |
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Sam-I-Am | smcginnis: ding! | 14:09 |
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smcginnis | :) | 14:10 |
Sam-I-Am | i didnt see that one | 14:10 |
Sam-I-Am | ShillaSaebi: anything interesting going on? we havent met in a while at any rate | 14:11 |
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ShillaSaebi | nothing interesting from my side | 14:11 |
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ShillaSaebi | anyone have anything they want to bring up? | 14:11 |
ShillaSaebi | thanks for the catch on the dates | 14:11 |
ShillaSaebi | we will do this again next week | 14:12 |
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Sam-I-Am | sounds good | 14:12 |
* Sam-I-Am goes back to pre-coffee confusion | 14:12 | |
ShillaSaebi | hahaha | 14:12 |
ShillaSaebi | ditto! | 14:12 |
ShillaSaebi | alright well thanks everyone, sorry for the mix up | 14:12 |
ShillaSaebi | we will do this again next time | 14:12 |
ShillaSaebi | i mean next week | 14:12 |
ShillaSaebi | same time same place | 14:12 |
ShillaSaebi | bye! | 14:12 |
ShillaSaebi | #endmeeting | 14:13 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 13 14:13:00 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:13 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2016/docteam.2016-01-13-14.01.html | 14:13 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2016/docteam.2016-01-13-14.01.txt | 14:13 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2016/docteam.2016-01-13-14.01.log.html | 14:13 |
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Zara | anyone about for the storyboard meeting? | 15:00 |
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SotK | I am! | 15:00 |
betherly | o/ | 15:00 |
Zara | \o/ | 15:00 |
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Zara | #startmeeting StoryBoard | 15:01 |
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openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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Zara | #topic Announcements | 15:01 |
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Zara | nothing on agenda; anyone have anything to announce? | 15:02 |
SotK | _o_ | 15:02 |
Zara | in that case, let's move on! | 15:02 |
Zara | #topic Urgent Items | 15:02 |
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Zara | nothing on agenda but I think two things should be. 1) SotK has just sent a very interesting patch | 15:02 |
Zara | can potentially speed up storyboard... 17.5 times. #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266961/ | 15:03 |
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Zara | am very excited about it, and the faster it's tested the better! =D | 15:03 |
betherly | i noticed in the storyboard channel that it could have broken tests. is it worth me waiting for the go ahead to review the code? | 15:04 |
Zara | thing number 2: the first email notification will start once we make all the templates. these are WIP, but I'm hitting some walls | 15:04 |
Zara | betherly: yes, though I'd suggest waiting until the tests finish, rather than waiting for us specifically to say 'go for it!' :) | 15:05 |
betherly | Zara: ok cool thanks | 15:05 |
Zara | :) | 15:05 |
Zara | so yeah, templates so far are here: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:zara.zaimeche%2540codethink.co.uk+status:open and I've mentioned a few things in the channel if people want to read backscroll, etc | 15:06 |
SotK | it'll probably be fine, I just haven't run the test suite because my set up makes that a little difficult :) | 15:06 |
Zara | I believe that after the email templates are merged, we just need to merge the button in the webclient, and users will be able to trial email notifications. is that right? | 15:07 |
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SotK | yeah | 15:07 |
Zara | \o/ my understanding so far: we're missing templates for task deletion and user comments, and the other templates in review need some improvements. | 15:07 |
Zara | but I think these could be finished by the end of the week. | 15:08 |
Zara | I can be a bit optimistic but that opinion is why I'm marking it urgent! :) any help on these would be great. | 15:09 |
Zara | does anyone have anything else? | 15:09 |
SotK | _o_ | 15:10 |
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Zara | #info Zara would like help on email templates since they're nearly there! | 15:10 |
Zara | okay, moving on | 15:10 |
Zara | #topic In Progress Work | 15:10 |
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Zara | always lots of this... | 15:10 |
Zara | I gather Worklists and Boards are getting some dramatic improvements | 15:11 |
SotK | well, adding cards to them is :) | 15:11 |
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Zara | well that's the bit which needs it! | 15:11 |
SotK | I'm almost ready to send a patch for that, but it wasn't very nice to use with the stories API being slow | 15:11 |
Zara | excellent \o/ | 15:12 |
SotK | I also plan to speed up loading of boards and worklists soon too | 15:12 |
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SotK | since they currently take a little while to be populated | 15:13 |
Zara | cool. :) this patch is currently waiting in review btw: | 15:13 |
Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/263728/ | 15:13 |
Zara | #info worklists and boards are getting lots of UX fixes, bit by bit. | 15:13 |
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Zara | the agenda says that SotK has been working on emails, but that's been me this week | 15:14 |
Zara | as y'all can probably tell from my cries for help :D | 15:14 |
SotK | :D | 15:15 |
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Zara | So far we have templates for tasks, tags, and stories in review. we're missing task-deletion and user comments. (and the ones we do have need some work) | 15:15 |
Zara | *the ones we have | 15:16 |
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Zara | I've gone into some detail about my confusion in #storyboard so I won't repeat it here | 15:16 |
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Zara | #info Zara has been working on email templates, with mixed results | 15:17 |
Zara | The other thing we have listed is the roadmap-- I've finally got round to updating it to match current status of emails! | 15:18 |
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SotK | \o/ | 15:18 |
Zara | that can hopefully serve as a refresher for anyone who's wondering 'why templates?'. the formatting's still a bit ugly. I think the timeline events vs recent events stuff may need a bit of tweaking | 15:19 |
Zara | but it's not urgent compared to other work atm, so I'm sticking it on my backlog | 15:19 |
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Zara | #info spec'n'roadmap finally updated | 15:20 |
Zara | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/StoryBoard/Notifications | 15:20 |
Zara | any other In Progress work? | 15:20 |
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SotK | _o_ | 15:20 |
Zara | #topic Discussion Topics | 15:21 |
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Zara | Nothing listed, so... | 15:21 |
Zara | #topic Open Discussion | 15:21 |
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Zara | anyone have anything? | 15:21 |
SotK | _o_ | 15:22 |
Zara | so in general, I think it looks like we have to continue juggling development on worklists/boards and emails, but emails should be less urgent once we get the rudimentary version through. until then, our work there so far is invisible. | 15:23 |
* SotK would like to look at the links-in-tasks stuff soon | 15:24 | |
Zara | yeah, me too | 15:24 |
Zara | I see that as helping with worklists and boards, too | 15:24 |
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Zara | my personal map is 'emails, then links in tasks while we get feedback on emails, then back to emails' | 15:25 |
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Zara | along with everything else probably lol | 15:25 |
SotK | :D | 15:26 |
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Zara | oh yeah, I know what I completely forgot! | 15:26 |
Zara | We have a storyboard meetup planned for the 17th (and maybe 18th) Feb. still very much in the planning stage | 15:26 |
Zara | etherpad here: #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/StoryBoard_Mitaka_Midcycle | 15:27 |
Zara | it clashes with the UX midcycle, so it'd be good to arrange something separately with UX folks if they're interested | 15:27 |
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Zara | I think storyboard could use more UX input, given neither myself nor SotK really have a UX background. and the webclient has a buglist of UX issues which might be of interest to the UX team more generally. | 15:29 |
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* SotK thinks so too | 15:31 | |
Zara | eg: it'd good to work together on some things from this story: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/85 , though I don't think SotK or I can prioritise it atm | 15:31 |
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Zara | given that there's been a lot of interest in the idea of uploading pictures for bug reports, ux mocks etc. atm we have to hotlink from elsewhere via img tags. It'd be nice to have something a bit more easily customisable-- but I'm limited by a lack of experience and time atm. | 15:36 |
* SotK also doesn't have time at the moment | 15:36 | |
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Zara | so if UX developers are interested in this feature, it'd be good to colloborate. if nobody is, then that's also worth letting people know about. | 15:36 |
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Zara | people submitting bugs have definitely been interested. can't say I've heard anything from ux people directly, but that might be because they use other tools. | 15:40 |
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betherly | i would be up for collaborating on the ux side (sorry late response there) | 15:40 |
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betherly | i just need to get more involved to be sure of specific input requirements from that side | 15:41 |
betherly | are we working with any design work at all atm? | 15:41 |
SotK | not that I'm aware of | 15:41 |
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Zara | yeah, not as far as I know. these are things I've heard a few times in infra, but it always seems to be from other people! | 15:42 |
Zara | though part of that might be because we haven't been collaborating on that so far. | 15:42 |
Zara | heh, I'm not even sure of the specific requirements so far, so that makes perfect sense to me. :) | 15:43 |
Zara | I'd say the best thing might be getting a storyboard development vm running as a first step, but it depends what other commitments you have | 15:43 |
Zara | (and no problem about the late response!) | 15:43 |
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Zara | atm the requirements I *can* give are 'review webclient patches to see if you catch bad UX that we miss' | 15:44 |
Zara | but that's not that exciting | 15:45 |
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Zara | I guess there's both the UX of storyboard, and storyboard as a tool for people working on UX | 15:45 |
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Zara | so yeah, flagging up dodgy things and reviewing patches should be sufficient for the former, the latter is still pretty vague to me, but you might be able to help seeing what needs to be done! :D | 15:46 |
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betherly | Zara: my aim is to get storyboard running properly next week now that the plugin project is almost up and running properly | 15:46 |
Zara | \o/ | 15:47 |
Zara | I'll make sure to be free then so I can help as much with that as possible. :) | 15:47 |
betherly | ok great | 15:47 |
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Zara | anyone have anything else? | 15:48 |
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SotK | _o_ | 15:48 |
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Zara | SotK has a few patches in review, so I'll just link to the list because I'm lazy | 15:49 |
Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:adam.coldrick%2540codethink.co.uk+status:open | 15:49 |
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Zara | okay, think we're at the end! Thanks, everyone! :) glad the Ironic plugin is going well, btw. | 15:51 |
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* Zara is in awe of Horizon in general | 15:52 | |
Zara | anyway | 15:52 |
Zara | #endmeeting | 15:52 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 13 15:52:25 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:52 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-01-13-15.01.html | 15:52 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-01-13-15.01.txt | 15:52 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-01-13-15.01.log.html | 15:52 |
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smcginnis | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 13 16:00:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
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thingee | o/ | 16:00 |
eharney | hi | 16:00 |
smcginnis | Courtesy ping: dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind vincent_hou kmartin patrickeast sheel | 16:00 |
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scottda | hi | 16:00 |
jseiler | hi | 16:00 |
mriedem | o/ | 16:00 |
hemna | hi | 16:00 |
yhayashi | hi | 16:00 |
Yogi1 | hi | 16:00 |
mtanino | o/ | 16:00 |
jgregor | Hello | 16:00 |
geguileo | smcginnis: Thanks | 16:00 |
geguileo | Hi | 16:00 |
erlon | hi | 16:00 |
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e0ne | hi | 16:00 |
smcginnis | geguileo: ;) | 16:00 |
DuncanT | Hi | 16:00 |
sheel | Hi everyone.. | 16:00 |
claudiub | o/ | 16:00 |
jungleboyj | Hello. | 16:00 |
kmartin | hi | 16:00 |
smcginnis | Nice, looks like a good turnout today. :) | 16:00 |
diablo_rojo | Hello :) | 16:00 |
bardia | hi | 16:00 |
smcginnis | #topic Announcements | 16:00 |
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xyang1 | hi | 16:01 |
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flip214 | hi | 16:01 |
jungleboyj | At least a turnout. :-) | 16:01 |
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smcginnis | Reviewers, please take a look at the spec tracking/review priority etherpad. | 16:01 |
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smcginnis | #link Spec tracking https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-cinder-spec-review-tracking | 16:01 |
smcginnis | Some good progress there. | 16:01 |
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smcginnis | #info Bugstats: Cinder-462, cinderclient-36, os-brick-13 | 16:02 |
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dulek | o/ | 16:02 |
thingee | Would like to mention the cross-project spec liaison group is coming together. I'm assuming diablo_rojo would be representing cinder https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266072/ | 16:02 |
smcginnis | Those numbers just seem to hold steady. | 16:02 |
diablo_rojo | thingee: Correct | 16:02 |
smcginnis | thingee: Thanks! Yep, she's volunteered. :) | 16:02 |
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smcginnis | Forward looking to the agenda, but please take a peek at the midcycle planning: | 16:03 |
smcginnis | #link Midcycle planning https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-cinder-midcycle | 16:03 |
smcginnis | Add your info if you are going, and make sure to add any topics a little ways down the page. | 16:04 |
smcginnis | We have a nova<>cinder time reserved Wednesday morning Raleigh time, Wednesday evening Bristol UK. | 16:04 |
hemna | great | 16:04 |
mriedem | what time is that wed night in bristol? | 16:04 |
smcginnis | scottda will have more to say about that shortly. | 16:05 |
scottda | Exact time is not set yet | 16:05 |
smcginnis | mriedem: I'm not sure if we locked down a specific time. | 16:05 |
thingee | Mitaka 2 is jan 19-21 | 16:05 |
e0ne | we'll get TheJulia from Ironic there too | 16:05 |
smcginnis | I'll check with johnthetubaguy later, unless someone else beats me to it. | 16:05 |
mriedem | sure, just should be before 5pm :) | 16:05 |
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mriedem | else we'll be pub crawling | 16:05 |
smcginnis | #info M-2 coming up January 19 | 16:05 |
hemna | :) | 16:05 |
smcginnis | mriedem: Fair point! :) | 16:06 |
smcginnis | Make sure folks are aware of the deadline with M-2. | 16:06 |
jungleboyj | mriedem: Hmmm, Cinder isn't the only group that does that? ;-) | 16:06 |
thingee | Jan 31 longer delays with gate ci testing | 16:06 |
smcginnis | thingee: Very good point. Don't wait until the end!!! | 16:06 |
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thingee | Due to sunsetting of a public cloud that infra uses | 16:07 |
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thingee | all this and more on the dev digest http://www.openstack.org/blog/2016/01/openstack-developer-mailing-list-digest-20160108/ | 16:07 |
dulek | thingee: Ah, right in the M-3 period… :( | 16:07 |
smcginnis | #link Infra changes https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-cinder-midcycle | 16:07 |
smcginnis | thingee: Thanks! | 16:07 |
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smcginnis | diablo_rojo: Want to cover a little cross-project stuff? | 16:07 |
johnthetubaguy | mriedem: smcginnis: I hadn't picked the time yet, good point, when did you folks want to start? lets pick then? (+1 for before 5pm!) | 16:08 |
diablo_rojo | smcginnis: Yeah sure. | 16:08 |
diablo_rojo | #link The Women of OpenStack are looking for mentors. Technical and Career both. If you are interested, here is the link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1YQITea0ygvusZAeRdR6jL1VUfaNcZTCr2UqHTFSsxR4/viewform?c=0&w=1 | 16:08 |
smcginnis | diablo_rojo: OK, hold a sec. | 16:08 |
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smcginnis | diablo_rojo: Sorry. :) | 16:08 |
diablo_rojo | smcginnis: No worries :0 | 16:08 |
Swanson | hello | 16:08 |
diablo_rojo | :) | 16:08 |
smcginnis | johnthetubaguy: Looking up the time difference now. | 16:08 |
rhedlind | 5 hours | 16:08 |
mriedem | we could sort out that time thing after the meeting... | 16:08 |
mriedem | doens't take 500 people to sort that out | 16:08 |
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scottda | johnthetubaguy: I wanted to address the lack of items to discuss with NOva. This is on today's agenda. So let's wait a bit on setting time... | 16:09 |
smcginnis | mriedem: Just a quick look, but yeah. | 16:09 |
smcginnis | johnthetubaguy: Probably do something like 9 AM EST then. But we can sort that out later I guess. | 16:09 |
mriedem | it's 4pm in bristol at 11am in RTP | 16:09 |
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smcginnis | johnthetubaguy: Don't want to make you guys stay late. | 16:09 |
mriedem | yeah, so 9am RTP and 2 pm bristol | 16:09 |
johnthetubaguy | yeah, that works | 16:09 |
johnthetubaguy | lets do that | 16:10 |
smcginnis | OK, tentative schedule 9am/2pm. | 16:10 |
smcginnis | johnthetubaguy: Perfect. Thanks John. | 16:10 |
mriedem | ahem | 16:10 |
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smcginnis | diablo_rojo: OK, sorry. Please go ahead. | 16:10 |
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diablo_rojo | Cool. As I was saying :) The Women of OpenStack are looking to build up the community and help newcomers get more integrated. So if you are interested please fill out the google form. | 16:10 |
diablo_rojo | #link Mentor sign up https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1YQITea0ygvusZAeRdR6jL1VUfaNcZTCr2UqHTFSsxR4/viewform?c=0&w=1 | 16:11 |
smcginnis | diablo_rojo: Day before the summit official starts? | 16:11 |
hemna | anyone can mentor? | 16:11 |
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thingee | hemna: yes | 16:11 |
smcginnis | hemna: Not you though. :P | 16:11 |
smcginnis | jk | 16:11 |
hemna | :) | 16:11 |
hemna | lead by bad example! | 16:12 |
smcginnis | hah | 16:12 |
hemna | speaking of pub crawls.... | 16:12 |
diablo_rojo | Other things from the cross project meeting, Cinder will need to choose an API liason | 16:12 |
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jungleboyj | hemna: +2 | 16:12 |
diablo_rojo | other wise it will default to our fearless leader smcginnis :) | 16:12 |
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thingee | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266072/ | 16:12 |
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smcginnis | I'm OK with it, but if someone is interested in doing it that would be great. | 16:13 |
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diablo_rojo | There has been a little bit of discussion in the ML about it | 16:13 |
diablo_rojo | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/083927.html | 16:13 |
smcginnis | #link Cross project spec team https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266072/ | 16:13 |
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smcginnis | diablo_rojo: Cool, anything else to cover? | 16:14 |
diablo_rojo | Yes | 16:14 |
diablo_rojo | sorry | 16:14 |
diablo_rojo | lots of links | 16:14 |
diablo_rojo | There are three notable specs that are out there right now that should get checked out: | 16:14 |
diablo_rojo | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243348/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/236712/ https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226157/ | 16:14 |
diablo_rojo | Thanks thingee for pointing them out :) | 16:15 |
diablo_rojo | So if cores could go take a look at those at some point and review, that would be most helpful. | 16:15 |
thingee | the first deprecates our cli in favor of openstack client | 16:15 |
smcginnis | Yeah, all of those could use some feedback and at least broader awareness. | 16:15 |
thingee | which is something that has been agreed on at previous summits I believe in cross-project sessions that is | 16:16 |
hemna | oofa | 16:16 |
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smcginnis | OK, folks take a look. | 16:16 |
thingee | I would say the last one more applies to people here, which is talking about our backwards compatibility for libraries | 16:16 |
thingee | hemna: ^ | 16:16 |
hemna | so that's cool, but that also means we are going to have to start working on 2 clients at the same time. | 16:16 |
hemna | fwiw | 16:16 |
jungleboyj | Oy | 16:16 |
hemna | features, fixes, etc | 16:17 |
thingee | shouldn't do new features to the old cli | 16:17 |
mriedem | right | 16:17 |
mriedem | only python API fixes | 16:17 |
smcginnis | I'm sure we could talk about these three the whole hour, so I'm going to move on. ;) | 16:17 |
smcginnis | diablo_rojo: Anything else? | 16:17 |
mriedem | b/c nova still uses the cinderclient python api | 16:17 |
thingee | smcginnis: yes please | 16:17 |
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diablo_rojo | One more thing :) | 16:17 |
hemna | yah, we can't just stop working on cinderclient | 16:17 |
hemna | that's not going to work | 16:17 |
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smcginnis | :) | 16:17 |
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hemna | mriedem, horizon also | 16:18 |
diablo_rojo | There are still more details to come, but there will be a Hackathon on Feb 29th and basically what is being asked is just that we compile a list of bugs for people to take a look at and then review things as quickly as possible. | 16:18 |
smcginnis | Oh yeah! | 16:18 |
smcginnis | I wanted to make sure to mention that. | 16:18 |
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diablo_rojo | smcginnis: And no we can't just give the whole list of bugs ;) | 16:18 |
smcginnis | Kind of a global bug day. | 16:18 |
smcginnis | diablo_rojo: Aww man | 16:19 |
diablo_rojo | smcginnis: Right, it came out of the China Hackathon? | 16:19 |
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smcginnis | I believe so, led by Huawei. | 16:19 |
diablo_rojo | smcginnis: Yes, that sounds right. | 16:19 |
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smcginnis | So if anyone is interested in doing some quick bug skimming... | 16:19 |
winston-d | I heard it was 2nd March ~ 4th March. | 16:19 |
patrickeast | Any links or anything for it? | 16:20 |
smcginnis | If anyone can scan through the bugs and start tagging ones that look like good candidates, that would be great. | 16:20 |
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diablo_rojo | No links yet, I can go back through the logs and see who was working on organizing it though. | 16:20 |
smcginnis | winston-d: That sounds right. | 16:20 |
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diablo_rojo | patrickeast: Just more of a general heads up right now, but I will send you stuff when I find it :) | 16:20 |
smcginnis | OK, we better get moving. | 16:21 |
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diablo_rojo | Okay, now I'm done :) | 16:21 |
smcginnis | #topic Virtual Meeting with Nova during mid-cycle | 16:21 |
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jungleboyj | We can maybe spend a little time at the mid-cycle organizing bugs for that? | 16:21 |
scottda | Hi | 16:21 |
smcginnis | scottda: Hey | 16:21 |
smcginnis | jungleboyj: Good idea! | 16:21 |
* jungleboyj adds it to the agenda | 16:21 | |
scottda | So, as mentioned above, we've a virtual meeting with Nova during the mid-cycle scheduled. | 16:21 |
scottda | But, so far, there is nothing on our mid-cycle etherpad that merits a cross-service discussion. | 16:22 |
mriedem | nova has things | 16:22 |
scottda | I'm thinking we should have some concrete items on the agenda that need to be discussed. | 16:22 |
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scottda | mriedem: OK. multi-attach? | 16:22 |
* jungleboyj has an item to add | 16:22 | |
mriedem | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-midcycle | 16:22 |
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mriedem | see the cinder section in there | 16:22 |
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mriedem | mostly right now it's privsep in os-brick and multiattach | 16:22 |
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smcginnis | scottda: The few topics we do have on the etherpad are mostly nova related. | 16:23 |
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mriedem | L47 | 16:23 |
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scottda | Cool. I'm just trying to get folks to think about this and put them on the agenda | 16:23 |
smcginnis | #link nova midcycle https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-midcycle | 16:23 |
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flip214 | scottda: the DRBD transport touches both Cinder and Nova... Is that a point to discuss, or is that too small a detail? | 16:23 |
smcginnis | #link cinder midcycle https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-cinder-midcycle | 16:23 |
scottda | It's worth discussing things that require agreement, or sharing of info, or are contentious | 16:24 |
hemna | so I spoke with gus last week about privsep and he was blocked | 16:24 |
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hemna | I think I was able to help him move forward at least in theory with privsep -> os-brick | 16:24 |
flip214 | well, "agreement" as in +2, yeah ;) | 16:24 |
scottda | So I'd like to firm up an agenda next week so we are prepared to use the time wisely | 16:25 |
smcginnis | scottda: +1 | 16:25 |
hemna | but I still think it will be a miracle to get privsep full implemented for os-brick in M. | 16:25 |
scottda | that's it. We can move on. | 16:25 |
smcginnis | hemna: I will be very surprised if it does. :{ | 16:25 |
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smcginnis | scottda: Thanks! | 16:25 |
e0ne | hemna: please, ping me if you need any help on this | 16:25 |
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smcginnis | #topic Nested Quota enforcement issue | 16:25 |
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smcginnis | mc_nair: Hey | 16:25 |
mc_nair | hey | 16:26 |
mc_nair | while looking into https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1531502, we noticed that we can't actually enforce child default quota values because we can't grab parent_project_id as part of something like the create volume flow (because user may not be an admin) | 16:26 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1531502 in Cinder "Child project's default quota not enforced" [High,New] - Assigned to Ryan McNair (rdmcnair) | 16:26 |
mc_nair | I talked with raildo and we were thinking of listening for the keystone project create event notification and explicitly creating a cinder quota for the new project at that point | 16:26 |
mc_nair | if anyone has feedback on the suggested approach / comments about the problem it’d be much appreciated | 16:26 |
dulek | mc_nair: Do we have parent_project_id in the context? | 16:27 |
raildo | hey :) | 16:27 |
hemna | rm -rf quotas | 16:27 |
mc_nair | dulek: no, we don't | 16:27 |
e0ne | :) | 16:27 |
DuncanT | mc_nair: Too fragile - events can get lost | 16:27 |
dulek | mc_nair: Shouldn't it be there? | 16:27 |
mc_nair | DuncanT: that's what I was worried about, so that's good to know | 16:27 |
DuncanT | mc_nair: This whole nested quotas thing has been a disaster, I'd honestly be tempted to say pull it and rethink | 16:27 |
smcginnis | Yeah, seems like there's got to be a better way. | 16:27 |
raildo | dulek: no, we have a token size issue, and for now, we can't add more information directly on the context. | 16:27 |
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eharney | yeah, the event notification idea doesn't sound like the right route | 16:28 |
mc_nair | good to know | 16:28 |
DuncanT | Event notification, even if it was reliable, is still racy. Nak | 16:28 |
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smcginnis | Anyone know a route mc_nair can look in to for this? | 16:29 |
mc_nair | so then if we're not able to add parent_project_id to the token I guess we're stuck with busted child quota default vals until we rethink things? | 16:29 |
smcginnis | Or should we add this as a topic to the midcycle to rethink nested quotas? | 16:29 |
dulek | mc_nair: Isn't Nova implementing nested quotas in this release? | 16:29 |
mc_nair | dulek: yea, but they're going to hit the same problem with their current approach | 16:29 |
jungleboyj | mc_nair: Have we verified that it isn't agreeable to add the parent_project_id to the token? | 16:29 |
dulek | Or any other project? We probably share same problems. | 16:29 |
raildo | dulek: we have some patches, very similar with the cinder implementation, it is in code review | 16:30 |
dulek | mc_nair: So -1 the approach. ;) | 16:30 |
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mc_nair | jungleboyj: well raildo was saying there's a limit to the info you can add to the token and right now Keystone won't let anything else be added to it | 16:30 |
mc_nair | dulek: will do :) | 16:30 |
raildo | we can try talk with the keystone guys, to explain why we need the parent_id on the token, and maybe we can propose it | 16:30 |
jungleboyj | mc_nair: Boooo. | 16:30 |
jungleboyj | mc_nair: Ok, thanks for chasing that idea. | 16:30 |
DuncanT | smcginnis: I think adding it to the midcycle agenda is worthwhile, it's currently a mess, and shouldn't, in hindsight, have been merged as is | 16:31 |
smcginnis | DuncanT: It does sound like it could use some more discussion at least. | 16:31 |
smcginnis | I'll add that. | 16:31 |
DuncanT | mc_nair: Or just let a normal user get their parent project id from keystone, and we'll ask keystone when we need it | 16:31 |
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DuncanT | mc_nair: The status quo of needing admin is daft | 16:32 |
dulek | DuncanT: +1 | 16:32 |
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jungleboyj | smcginnis: +2 Thanks. This is high priority for us to get addressed. | 16:32 |
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DuncanT | mc_nair: We do have the concept of a service user that could probably be used, but that feels ugly | 16:32 |
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raildo | DuncanT: ++ I think that use the service user would be easier to fix the problem | 16:33 |
mc_nair | DuncanT: alright, yea will chase that as well. Letting non-admin retrieve parent would work assuming we could work that through keystone | 16:33 |
smcginnis | mc_nair: Awesome. Enough to go on for now? | 16:33 |
mc_nair | smcginnis: yes sir - thanks for the info everyone | 16:33 |
smcginnis | mc_nair: Thanks! | 16:33 |
DuncanT | mc_nair: Adding it to the token removes the need for an extra callout to keystone though, so would be very preferable | 16:33 |
smcginnis | #topic Summary Messages to be displayed for success/failure in cinder operations | 16:33 |
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smcginnis | sheel: You're up. | 16:34 |
sheel | smcginnis:yes | 16:34 |
sheel | i am there | 16:34 |
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sheel | hi everyone | 16:34 |
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sheel | Its regarding https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/summarymessage | 16:34 |
sheel | where i am propsing to display error messages in details atleast to admin | 16:34 |
sheel | When someone performs some operation like create volume, delete volume etc, if operation fails - user gets no specific information about why operation failed...just operation status is updated and shown as failed... One need to debug logs and other details to find the issue. | 16:35 |
eharney | i feel like this needs to be tied into the async error reporting proposal that's been floating for a while now | 16:35 |
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jungleboyj | eharney: ++ | 16:35 |
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eharney | the overall idea is right, but we've already looked into this a bit | 16:35 |
DuncanT | eharney: ++ | 16:35 |
smcginnis | eharney: Is there a spec out there for that, or has that just been talked about? | 16:35 |
eharney | i think discussion about that is listed for the midcycle | 16:35 |
eharney | smcginnis: there was a spec a while ago | 16:35 |
eharney | not sure there has been an active one recently | 16:35 |
eharney | but it's a feature i'm quite interested in getting, so maybe we'll figure out at the midcycle what needs to happen to get that rolling again | 16:36 |
smcginnis | eharney: This seems like a cross project thing. | 16:36 |
smcginnis | Not that cinder can't lead it. | 16:36 |
eharney | ehh | 16:36 |
jungleboyj | smcginnis: That has been discussed in the cross project meetings before. | 16:36 |
eharney | the discussion started going that way before, i think, and we ended up kinda fizzling out and not doing anything | 16:36 |
eharney | IMO we need to just implement it and then see where it goes | 16:37 |
smcginnis | eharney: Fair point. :) | 16:37 |
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eharney | because it's not something that couldn't be spread and adapted over time to other projects | 16:37 |
johnthetubaguy | Nova has "instance actions" to help report async errors, if that helps? | 16:37 |
smcginnis | Might be good to get something in cinder, then use that as an example for other projects that need to do async error reporting. | 16:37 |
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johnthetubaguy | but thats a REST API, rather than an async API | 16:37 |
jungleboyj | eharney: Yeah, we need to do something. :-) | 16:37 |
DuncanT | johnthetubaguy: That just shows the last error though, doesn't it? | 16:38 |
johnthetubaguy | DuncanT: no, shows previous actions, and there previous errors, based on request-id, I believe | 16:38 |
DuncanT | johnthetubaguy: Ah, ok, thanks, I'll go look | 16:38 |
smcginnis | johnthetubaguy: Sounds like what we need. Thanks! | 16:38 |
johnthetubaguy | so it does have some issues we keep wanting to fix | 16:39 |
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johnthetubaguy | it doesn't really tell the users when something is finished | 16:39 |
johnthetubaguy | http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-compute-v2.1.html#os-instance-actions-v2.1 | 16:39 |
smcginnis | sheel: So something to look into ^^ | 16:39 |
johnthetubaguy | but, yeah, it might help with ideas | 16:39 |
sheel | smcginnis : sure, i will follow up | 16:39 |
eharney | i'll be sure it's listed for the midcycle, ameade was on the list to attend i think, so we can kick things off there | 16:39 |
johnthetubaguy | alaski is a good contact to chat with about that | 16:39 |
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mtanino | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-cinder-async-reporting this one? | 16:40 |
smcginnis | johnthetubaguy: If we can all work on one pattern that would be good. | 16:40 |
hemna | smcginnis, +1 | 16:40 |
ameade | o/ | 16:40 |
ameade | lol | 16:40 |
ameade | in the manila midcycle atm | 16:40 |
eharney | mtanino: yes | 16:40 |
johnthetubaguy | smcginnis: +1 something for the API WG guidlines | 16:40 |
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smcginnis | #link Past discussion https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/kilo-cinder-async-reporting | 16:41 |
erlon | ameade: where did it got? I mean why it didn't go further? | 16:41 |
ameade | i can share my thoughts around async error reporting | 16:41 |
smcginnis | #link Nova approach http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref-compute-v2.1.html#os-instance-actions-v2.1 | 16:41 |
ameade | erlon: nobody implemented it, I haven't had the bandwidth | 16:41 |
erlon | ameade: hmm | 16:41 |
ameade | i think it's the single most important feature of openstack atm | 16:41 |
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ameade | for* | 16:41 |
erlon | sheel: :) | 16:42 |
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sheel | erlon: so I can take this BP ahead | 16:42 |
sheel | smcginnis : right? | 16:42 |
erlon | sheel: +1 | 16:43 |
smcginnis | sheel: That would be great! We could definitely use this. | 16:43 |
smcginnis | sheel: Anything else at the moment? | 16:43 |
eharney | i'll see what kind of bandwidth exists here to help on this, i'd like to if i can | 16:43 |
ameade | lets talk about it at the midcycle, i will be there | 16:43 |
smcginnis | ameade: +1 | 16:43 |
eharney | ameade: yes | 16:43 |
ameade | would love for folks to commit to working on it | 16:43 |
sheel | smcginnis : thank you, please approve BP | 16:43 |
smcginnis | sheel: Will do. :) | 16:44 |
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sheel | eharney: sure, we will work together... | 16:44 |
smcginnis | #topic Open Discussion | 16:44 |
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sheel | eharney : thanks for extended help and your interest | 16:44 |
erlon | o/ | 16:44 |
smcginnis | Vincent put an item on the agenda, but he's not here. | 16:44 |
erlon | Just one thing I'd like to raise. We need some help to review this (Hitachi) driver, to make it ready for M2. | 16:44 |
mtanino | sheel: I'm interested in this too :) | 16:44 |
smcginnis | I'll just say, congrats Vincent. | 16:44 |
smcginnis | :) | 16:44 |
erlon | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255239/ | 16:44 |
sheel | mtanino: sure | 16:45 |
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smcginnis | erlon: You want to talk about that one? | 16:45 |
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erlon | smcginnis: you gave a quick review, if you have a change and review it trougly | 16:45 |
smcginnis | erlon: Will do. | 16:45 |
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jungleboyj | Hadn't seen that he put that on the agenda. | 16:46 |
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smcginnis | jungleboyj: Pretty funny. :) | 16:46 |
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jungleboyj | Yeah, Vincent is now in RTP and is very excited to be in the US time zone and able to work in real time. | 16:46 |
mtanino | oh! congrat Vincent. | 16:46 |
erlon | smcginnis: so, its a refactory, big, but need more core reviews | 16:46 |
smcginnis | erlon: That blueprint was a little misleading that it doesn't really call out there is a new driver as part of that. | 16:46 |
eharney | welcome to the area Vincent :) | 16:46 |
sheel | congrats Vincent. :) | 16:46 |
jungleboyj | He will be at the midcycle and be able to get back on the Storwize patches. | 16:46 |
claudiub | hi. just a small request. If you could review the cinder windows drivers refactor with os-win patch, I'd greatly appreciate it. :) https://review.openstack.org/#/c/243565/10 | 16:46 |
kmartin | erlon, the Hitachi HBSD2 CI is failing on it | 16:47 |
smcginnis | claudiub: Tab opened... | 16:47 |
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claudiub | it would be great if it could make it into M-2. :) | 16:47 |
eharney | claudiub: i've had that one on my radar, will try to take a look soon | 16:47 |
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flip214 | I would like to ask for a bit of review bandwidth for the DRBD transport - if the Cinder side was merged, I think it's easier to get the Nova side in. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259973/9 | 16:47 |
patrickeast | oh, i have something to bring up | 16:47 |
erlon | kmartin: yes, we are working on it, but folks can still review while we get that stable | 16:47 |
claudiub | great, thanks folks. :) | 16:47 |
flip214 | (Even if that is just a copy of an existing driver) | 16:47 |
patrickeast | is there any interest in turning on the image cache for the cinder gate w/ lvm? | 16:47 |
smcginnis | patrickeast: Seems like we should for coverage. | 16:48 |
smcginnis | IMO | 16:48 |
patrickeast | yea | 16:48 |
eharney | patrickeast: probably good in some capacity, but i assume we'd need jobs with and without it? | 16:48 |
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jungleboyj | patrickeast: Seems like a good idea. | 16:48 |
patrickeast | i turned it on in the pure ci after it got broken from some object changes | 16:48 |
patrickeast | eharney: yea probably | 16:48 |
smcginnis | eharney: Before it's cached it will be without it, right? So we kind of get coverage for both? | 16:48 |
patrickeast | smcginnis: true, but the code paths are a tiny bit different | 16:49 |
smcginnis | patrickeast: True | 16:49 |
eharney | smcginnis: i dunno, just thinking about rooting out issues related to glance interaction etc | 16:49 |
patrickeast | imo its probably better with it turned on vs turned off as far as total coverage of code | 16:49 |
smcginnis | eharney: Yeah, fair point. | 16:49 |
patrickeast | but still a gap | 16:49 |
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* smcginnis tends to cut corners on testing | 16:49 | |
smcginnis | :} | 16:49 |
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jungleboyj | smcginnis: Should strike that from the record. | 16:49 |
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eharney | we could do something like turn it on for the LIO/thin job and leave it on for the tgt/thick job, since that split already exists | 16:50 |
smcginnis | jungleboyj: Yeah, I probably should have stated that. :D | 16:50 |
eharney | not sure | 16:50 |
jungleboyj | Oh no, followed by a Freudian Slip! | 16:50 |
* smcginnis tends to look for ways to safely cut corners on testing | 16:50 | |
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smcginnis | jungleboyj: How's that> ^^ :) | 16:50 |
eharney | leave it off* | 16:50 |
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patrickeast | so maybe for now i'll put something on my backlog to get the devstack changes or plugin pulled into the official repos so we could turn it on | 16:51 |
smcginnis | eharney: That seems reasonable. | 16:51 |
patrickeast | and once thats ready we can figure out where to enable it | 16:51 |
smcginnis | patrickeast: That would be awesome. | 16:51 |
eharney | patrickeast: sounds good | 16:51 |
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smcginnis | 8 minutes | 16:52 |
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smcginnis | Any other topics to cover? | 16:52 |
jungleboyj | eharney: Sounds like a good plan. | 16:52 |
diablo_rojo | patrickeast: Looks like nikhil is the primary contact for information thus far for the Hackathon. Looks like jroll and rockyg may also have info on it maybe. | 16:52 |
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patrickeast | diablo_rojo: cool, thanks! | 16:52 |
diablo_rojo | patrickeast: No problem :) | 16:52 |
jungleboyj | Just FYI, I think we are looking at doing Thunderbirds for dinner on Thursday night. | 16:52 |
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smcginnis | Oh, some specs could use some reviews. Too late for many, but I think there are a few that could still make it in M. | 16:53 |
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diablo_rojo | jungleboyj: Should I add that to the etherpad? | 16:53 |
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jungleboyj | diablo_rojo: Sure. That would be good. | 16:53 |
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smcginnis | Wednesday is still open for any companie that want to bribe^D^D^D^D^Dfeed us. | 16:54 |
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jungleboyj | bwah ha ha! | 16:54 |
smcginnis | Totally joking | 16:54 |
Swanson | smcginnis, technically I think I have to report you to the dell ethics committee. | 16:55 |
kmartin | can PTLs be impeached? | 16:55 |
smcginnis | Hahah | 16:55 |
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flip214 | smcginnis: careful with the mushroom food. | 16:55 |
scottda | Too bad Dell just spent all their money... | 16:55 |
smcginnis | I'm getting myself in all kinds of trouble today. :) | 16:55 |
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sheel | smcginnis: sorry to cut into | 16:55 |
smcginnis | scottda: Hah! | 16:55 |
diablo_rojo | scottda: +1 | 16:55 |
smcginnis | sheel: Please do. | 16:55 |
sheel | smcginnis: could you please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/265820/ | 16:55 |
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sheel | final +2 left for merge | 16:56 |
sheel | sorry, I know you have already got too many requests :( | 16:56 |
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Swanson | scottda, Dell spent ALL the money. | 16:56 |
smcginnis | sheel: Will take a look. | 16:56 |
eharney | sheel: i'll review that one, i started on it the other day | 16:56 |
eharney | something about it looked odd to me, need to check it | 16:56 |
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smcginnis | OK, I think we past the point of any productivity a while back Thanks everyone. | 16:56 |
sheel | eharney : thats great.. thank you very much | 16:56 |
rhedlind | question. I have some changes to make to my driver still. what's the deadline to get them into gerrit? do we have that on a page somewhere? | 16:57 |
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sheel | smcginnis: thank you | 16:57 |
jungleboyj | Good meeting. Thanks everyone! | 16:57 |
smcginnis | rhedlind: M-3 for changes. | 16:57 |
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smcginnis | #endmeeting | 16:57 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 13 16:57:33 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:57 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-01-13-16.00.html | 16:57 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-01-13-16.00.txt | 16:57 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-01-13-16.00.log.html | 16:57 |
geguileo | Thanks! | 16:57 |
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jungleboyj | Ooops, maybe I meant Firebirds for dinner. | 16:58 |
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sheel | :) | 16:59 |
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jlvillal | #startmeeting ironic_qa | 17:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 13 17:00:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jlvillal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_qa' | 17:00 |
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jlvillal | Hello all | 17:00 |
jlvillal | As always the agenda is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-QA | 17:00 |
kcalman_ | o/ | 17:00 |
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jlvillal | #announcements | 17:01 |
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jlvillal | I don't have anything to announce. | 17:01 |
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aarefiev | hi | 17:01 |
jlvillal | Looks like this might be a short meeting if only two of use here | 17:01 |
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jlvillal | three! | 17:01 |
rpioso | o/ | 17:01 |
rajinir | o/ | 17:01 |
jlvillal | Cool | 17:01 |
krtaylor | o/ | 17:02 |
jlvillal | Does anyone have any announcements? | 17:02 |
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jlvillal | Moving on in | 17:02 |
jlvillal | 5 | 17:02 |
jlvillal | 4 | 17:02 |
jlvillal | 3 | 17:02 |
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jlvillal | #topic Grenade Testing | 17:02 |
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[3]cdearborn | o/ | 17:02 |
jlvillal | I am still working on Grenade testing. | 17:02 |
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jlvillal | This really means working on setting up an environment that copies openstack/devstack-gate and works on my system. | 17:03 |
jlvillal | Unfortunately my system is behind a proxy server and causes me what seems like endless issues. | 17:03 |
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jlvillal | I have gotten the Grenade job to get to the creating the IPA image stage, which dies because of proxy issues. Hope to fix that today. | 17:04 |
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jlvillal | I have also been seeing where it fails in the gate | 17:05 |
jlvillal | I have been using this patch to trigger "check experimental" which runs the grenade job: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/255834/ | 17:05 |
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jlvillal | That's all I have to report right now. | 17:06 |
jlvillal | Moving on unless questions. | 17:06 |
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jlvillal | #topic Functional testing | 17:07 |
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jlvillal | #info Email thread about functional testing in Ironic on openstack-dev | 17:07 |
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jlvillal | So Serge started an email thread about functional testing | 17:07 |
jlvillal | I forget his IRC nickname :( | 17:08 |
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* jroll is here | 17:08 | |
jlvillal | Seems like people want to be able to do 'tox -efunc' functional testing | 17:08 |
jlvillal | And would like to have support in Tempest also | 17:08 |
jroll | the tempest thing is somewhat separate, in my mind | 17:09 |
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jlvillal | #info Functional testing should support 'tox -efunc' | 17:09 |
jroll | it's more of "should we keep writing tempest tests, even thuogh we have functional testing" | 17:09 |
jroll | "yes, we should" | 17:09 |
jlvillal | Thanks. | 17:09 |
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jroll | (why? tempest is valuable for testing a deployment) | 17:10 |
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jlvillal | Yep! | 17:10 |
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jlvillal | #info Continue to have or add functional testing in Tempest. For one thing it is valuable for testing a deployment. Along with other reasons. | 17:11 |
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jlvillal | Anyone have anything to add? | 17:11 |
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jlvillal | Okay, moving on in 5 | 17:11 |
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* krtaylor need to understand the differences better | 17:11 | |
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jlvillal | Between what and what? krtaylor | 17:12 |
jlvillal | tox and tempest? | 17:12 |
krtaylor | functional and tempest | 17:12 |
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krtaylor | or I should say stand-alone and tempest? | 17:12 |
jlvillal | So we would like to add a 'tox -efunc' to do functional testing. | 17:12 |
jlvillal | That makes it easy for developers to run functional testing. | 17:13 |
krtaylor | y, understood | 17:13 |
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jlvillal | Tempest is great and all but needs to have an OpenStack environment up and running. Which is rather large overhead for a developer. | 17:13 |
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jlvillal | Things they test will likely have an overlap. Maybe they both test the same API. | 17:13 |
jlvillal | That is my understanding | 17:13 |
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jroll | so in my mind: tempest is a thing for testing a real deployment of ironic (probably with nova, maybe without if some tests are skipped), whereas functional testing is a thing that can run in a minute that can do similar validation, but less "full" | 17:13 |
jlvillal | Not sure if that makes it any clearer krtaylor | 17:14 |
jroll | in functional testing, backends can be mocked (for example neutron) | 17:14 |
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jroll | and we might use in-memory oslo.msg or something | 17:14 |
jlvillal | Thanks jroll | 17:14 |
krtaylor | jroll, that helps | 17:14 |
jlvillal | Okay now moving on in 4 | 17:14 |
krtaylor | so it has to do with developer speed | 17:14 |
jlvillal | 3 | 17:14 |
jroll | yeah basically | 17:15 |
jlvillal | Yes :) | 17:15 |
jlvillal | 2 | 17:15 |
jlvillal | 1 | 17:15 |
jlvillal | Okay moving on :) | 17:15 |
jlvillal | #topic 3rd Party CI (krtaylor) | 17:15 |
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jlvillal | The floor is yours krtaylor | 17:15 |
krtaylor | no progress at all | 17:15 |
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krtaylor | swamped with downstream work | 17:15 |
jlvillal | Okay, thanks. And I know the feeling....unfortunately.... | 17:16 |
kcalman_ | I had a question regarding setting up 3rd party CI | 17:16 |
jlvillal | Go ahead! | 17:16 |
krtaylor | hoping to dig out a bit this week | 17:16 |
kcalman_ | will there only be one release cycle/branch at a time under test? | 17:16 |
kcalman_ | or both the current and the next? | 17:17 |
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rajinir | updated the status for dell idrac -> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicCI , please review | 17:17 |
jlvillal | Do you mean like only testing tip of master? | 17:17 |
krtaylor | you can chose whether to test stable branches or tip, are you asking for requirements? | 17:17 |
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kcalman_ | yes, or master and current released version (e.g., liberty) | 17:18 |
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jlvillal | I would have thought focus would be on master. But I will defer to krtaylor and jroll on that. | 17:18 |
krtaylor | I don't recall that we addressed that in the spec | 17:18 |
jroll | I guess right now we'd focus on master, next cycle master+mitaka, next cycle master+mitaka+N | 17:19 |
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kcalman_ | OK | 17:19 |
krtaylor | well, since we didn't require testing until now, it makes sense :) | 17:19 |
jroll | or rather, third party CI should test cycles/branches from when they start testing forward | 17:19 |
krtaylor | ++ | 17:19 |
* jroll updates the spec | 17:19 | |
kcalman_ | but going forward, will changes be expected to be backported to current release, on only in the new development/next release? | 17:20 |
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kcalman_ | ("current" => released) | 17:20 |
jroll | I'm not sure what you mean kcalman_ - some changes are backported, some are not. depends on the change | 17:20 |
jroll | I don't expect you to test branches that existed before your CI existed | 17:20 |
jroll | (but you can if you'd like) | 17:20 |
kcalman_ | like feature vs bug fix? | 17:21 |
jroll | right, it's bug fixes only and depends on severity | 17:21 |
kcalman_ | OK | 17:21 |
jroll | more info here: http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html | 17:21 |
kcalman_ | thanks | 17:21 |
jlvillal | #info jroll will update spec on what branches (for example master, stable/liberty, etc..) should be tested by 3rd Party CI | 17:21 |
krtaylor | thanks jroll | 17:22 |
jlvillal | +1 | 17:22 |
rajinir | Posting again, Updated the status for dell idrac -> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicCI , please review | 17:22 |
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kcalman_ | there was another question with the scope of CI testing expected for Mitaka | 17:22 |
jlvillal | #info Status updated for Dell idrac -> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicCI , please review | 17:22 |
rajinir | Question: For M feature freeze, the etherpad says receive and post comments on ci-sanbox. Is that it? | 17:23 |
kcalman_ | should that be the build plumbing only, or is there a no-op Ironic test that should be executed? | 17:23 |
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jroll | rajinir: yes | 17:23 |
jroll | kcalman_: we only require that you are able to receive and post comments from CI sandbox | 17:23 |
jroll | by the end of mitaka cycle | 17:23 |
jroll | (or rather M-3, iirc) | 17:24 |
kcalman_ | OK great | 17:24 |
rajinir | cool, thanks | 17:24 |
jlvillal | Anything else? | 17:24 |
rajinir | We have ton of questions for N release, we will probably reach out to the infra team and ironic QA | 17:24 |
jlvillal | #info 3rd Party CI is only required to receive and post comments from CI sandbox by M-3 time frame, to be compliant with Ironic policy. | 17:25 |
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jlvillal | rajinir, understood. | 17:25 |
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jlvillal | Okay, if nothing else will move on | 17:25 |
jroll | #link https://review.openstack.org/267049 | 17:25 |
jroll | for spec update | 17:25 |
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jlvillal | thanks | 17:26 |
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jlvillal | Moving on in 4 | 17:26 |
jlvillal | 3 | 17:26 |
jlvillal | 2 | 17:26 |
jlvillal | 1 | 17:26 |
jlvillal | #topic Open discussion / General QA topics | 17:26 |
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jroll | I have a thing | 17:26 |
jroll | I've been working on the move to a tempest plugin | 17:27 |
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jroll | it's nearly done on the ironic side, could use some reviews | 17:27 |
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jroll | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/ironic+branch:master+topic:tempest_plugin | 17:27 |
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jroll | (needs an update too, apparently) | 17:27 |
jlvillal | Thanks | 17:28 |
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jroll | the downside is that tempest is branchless, so we can't remove the tests from tempest until liberty is EOL :( | 17:28 |
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jroll | I'll be looking into the best way to work that this week | 17:28 |
jlvillal | #info Tempest plugin patches need reviews: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/ironic+branch:master+topic:tempest_plugin | 17:28 |
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jlvillal | That is a long time. I assume that is a couple years for Liberty EOL??? | 17:29 |
jlvillal | This probably does not fall into this meeting. But there seem to be a lot of gate failures. I have one patch that fails again and again and it not touching any executing code. | 17:29 |
jlvillal | I assume other people are noticing similar things | 17:30 |
jroll | it's usually a couple cycles | 17:30 |
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jroll | also, yes, oh my. | 17:31 |
jroll | http://tinyurl.com/j5yc4yr | 17:31 |
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jlvillal | Last patch I see merged in was on Friday. Not counting patch into devstack/lib/ironic | 17:31 |
jroll | still timeout stuff, I assume. we need to keep pushing through that | 17:31 |
jlvillal | I would love a pointer on how to create those graphite graphs. I tried graphite.openstack.org and couldn't figure it out :( | 17:32 |
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jroll | https://github.com/sdague/failopotamus | 17:32 |
jroll | :D | 17:32 |
jroll | I'm using python failgraph.py -d 400 gate-tempest-dsvm-ironic-pxe_ipa | 17:32 |
jlvillal | Awesome! Thanks :) | 17:32 |
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jlvillal | Put that into his notes. | 17:33 |
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jlvillal | Okay, if nothing else we can adjourn. | 17:33 |
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jlvillal | Adjouring in 5 | 17:33 |
jlvillal | Or Adjourning in 5 (spell correctly this time) | 17:34 |
jlvillal | 4 | 17:34 |
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jlvillal | Thanks everyone! | 17:34 |
jlvillal | Ciao | 17:34 |
jlvillal | #endmeeting | 17:34 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 13 17:34:25 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:34 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_qa/2016/ironic_qa.2016-01-13-17.00.html | 17:34 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_qa/2016/ironic_qa.2016-01-13-17.00.txt | 17:34 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_qa/2016/ironic_qa.2016-01-13-17.00.log.html | 17:34 |
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skraynev_ | #startmeeting heat | 20:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 13 20:00:47 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is skraynev_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 20:00 |
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skraynev_ | #topic rollcall | 20:01 |
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jdob | o/ | 20:01 |
stevebaker | hi! | 20:01 |
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skraynev_ | shardy | 20:01 |
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skraynev_ | pas-ha | 20:01 |
markvan | howdy | 20:01 |
zaneb | o/ | 20:01 |
ochuprykov | hi | 20:01 |
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shprotby | hello | 20:02 |
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skraynev_ | more we need more people (sinister laugh) | 20:02 |
skraynev_ | :) | 20:02 |
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skraynev_ | #topic Adding items to agenda | 20:03 |
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shprotby | test my nickname. | 20:03 |
shprotby | Hm... | 20:03 |
skraynev_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282016-01-13_2000_UTC.29 | 20:03 |
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skraynev_ | so two big sections - upcoming releases/milestones and convergence | 20:04 |
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skraynev_ | #topic Review priorities | 20:06 |
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skraynev_ | I think, that we may skip it and focus on bugs and BPs targeted on m2 | 20:06 |
skraynev_ | so | 20:06 |
skraynev_ | I will mention it later ;) | 20:07 |
skraynev_ | #topic release for stable/liberty | 20:07 |
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stevebaker | I have a series of heatclient backports which need reviews so that 0.8.1 can be released https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-heatclient+branch:stable/liberty+topic:bug/1532326 | 20:07 |
skraynev_ | stevebaker: do we need merge them before heatclient release, I suppose ? | 20:08 |
stevebaker | skraynev_: yep, its on a stable/liberty branch | 20:08 |
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skraynev_ | stevebaker: hm. I am not sure, that we will make new tag for stable/liberty for python heatclient, but I will try to review (I already have reviewed couple of them) | 20:09 |
skraynev_ | so about stable/liberty and heat. | 20:10 |
skraynev_ | ttx sent a mail about it. | 20:10 |
skraynev_ | and we may do new extra tag for stable/liberty branch in heat | 20:10 |
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stevebaker | can we do a stable/liberty release whenever we feel the need to? | 20:11 |
skraynev_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/heat+branch:stable/liberty+status:open | 20:11 |
skraynev_ | stevebaker: we should it in this way :) | 20:11 |
skraynev_ | ttx: just notify, that it looks like we have enough commits in stable/liberty alredy | 20:12 |
skraynev_ | *already | 20:12 |
stevebaker | hell yes | 20:12 |
skraynev_ | I think we may try to merge this list ^ of commits during this week | 20:13 |
skraynev_ | and make a release on the next one. | 20:13 |
skraynev_ | stevebaker: what do you think? | 20:14 |
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zaneb | stevebaker: are we backporting convergence stuff to stable? | 20:14 |
skraynev_ | we need to involve shardy and zaneb in this process | 20:14 |
stevebaker | sounds good, those which haven't merged this week can be evaluated for being punted to next release | 20:14 |
zaneb | and if so, why? | 20:14 |
stevebaker | zaneb: not so much anymore | 20:14 |
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skraynev_ | zaneb: I see couple commits related with convergence | 20:15 |
zaneb | ok, I see at least two and likely more in that list | 20:15 |
skraynev_ | maybe they were introduced early | 20:15 |
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skraynev_ | zaneb: imo we may merge them without big risk | 20:16 |
zaneb | I guess, but there's no point waiting on them either | 20:16 |
skraynev_ | zaneb: agree | 20:16 |
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stevebaker | maybe just abandon them, lets reduce our cognitive load | 20:17 |
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zaneb | skraynev_: btw the rule for stable branches is that the author or backporter can count as a +2 if they are core | 20:17 |
skraynev_ | #action shardy, stevebaker, zaneb, skraynev prepare stable/liberty branch for new release to next week (merge remaining patches) | 20:17 |
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stevebaker | unless they affect the stablity of the liberty ci | 20:17 |
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zaneb | skraynev_: so you may only need 1 other person to approve | 20:17 |
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zaneb | I think some of the ones in that list with +2 could have been approved already under that rule | 20:18 |
skraynev_ | zaneb: I have not know about such exception :) | 20:18 |
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skraynev_ | zaneb: your truth ;) | 20:18 |
zaneb | skraynev_: I heard it from one of the stable branch folks | 20:18 |
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stevebaker | tis true | 20:18 |
skraynev_ | zaneb: stevebaker: nice | 20:19 |
skraynev_ | then it will be easier | 20:19 |
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skraynev_ | #action skraynev upload patch to release repo for new stable/liberty release on the next week | 20:20 |
skraynev_ | go to the next one | 20:20 |
skraynev_ | #topic new release for python-heatclient | 20:20 |
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skraynev_ | stevebaker: I remember, that we wanted to do it in Jan | 20:21 |
skraynev_ | so we are here | 20:21 |
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stevebaker | yep, that is what the backports are for https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-heatclient+branch:stable/liberty+topic:bug/1532326 | 20:21 |
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stevebaker | since we're in the middle of developing the openstack commands I propose that we do a python-heatclient-1.0.0 when they are useful enough | 20:22 |
markvan | yup, for mitaka, good progress on openstack client https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-heatclient+branch:master+topic:bp/heat-support-python-openstackclient | 20:22 |
stevebaker | until then we can do 0.8.x bug fix releases on the stable/liberty branch | 20:22 |
skraynev_ | stevebaker: hm.. we probably talk about two different things. I meant new release for master | 20:22 |
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skraynev_ | because we have some stuff, which are not available via pip installation | 20:23 |
skraynev_ | and as result is not available in default devstack | 20:23 |
stevebaker | skraynev_: which changes are you looking for> | 20:23 |
stevebaker | ? | 20:23 |
jdob | stevebaker, is the openstack client ultimately going to sit in heatclient side by side with the old stuff? | 20:23 |
jdob | er, openstack client commands | 20:23 |
skraynev_ | stevebaker: honestly - changes related with new API for outputs | 20:24 |
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stevebaker | jdob: yes, heatclient commands will eventually be deprecated, and openstack commands will live in heatclient | 20:24 |
jdob | cool | 20:24 |
skraynev_ | stevebaker: I agree to propose 0.8.x for stable/liberty after merging backports mentioned by you | 20:24 |
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skraynev_ | stevebaker: as I understand openstack commands are not merged yet, so we may do a pre-version with all fixes, but without openstack commands. what do you think about it? | 20:26 |
stevebaker | skraynev_: how about a patch which doesn't register the osc plugins, so we can do a 0.9.0 | 20:26 |
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skraynev_ | #action merge backports patches in stable/liberty for python-heatclient and then propose new 0.8.x release for stable branch | 20:26 |
skraynev_ | stevebaker: +2 | 20:27 |
stevebaker | it would just comment out setup.cfg openstack.cli.extension | 20:27 |
skraynev_ | and then focus on review osc and release 1.0.0 with all these commands | 20:27 |
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stevebaker | sounds fine to me | 20:27 |
stevebaker | are there any pending reviews which need to be in a 0.9.0? | 20:28 |
skraynev_ | stevebaker: would you like to do it or I need to assist with it ? | 20:28 |
zaneb | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266653/1/heatclient/openstack/common/apiclient/base.py makes my eyes bleed | 20:28 |
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skraynev_ | zaneb: oh. it's patch from super series, which try to fix everywhere ;) | 20:30 |
stevebaker | skraynev_: do you want to handle 0.9.0 and I | 20:30 |
stevebaker | 'll do 0.8.1? | 20:30 |
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skraynev_ | stevebaker: as you want. I agree with any solution, where I do just a half part of the work :)) | 20:31 |
stevebaker | heh | 20:31 |
skraynev_ | :) | 20:31 |
skraynev_ | so. yes. I can take 0.9.0 | 20:32 |
skraynev_ | and help with merging patches for 0.8.x | 20:32 |
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skraynev_ | #action prepare and do 0.9.0 release for python-heatclient with stub in setup.cfg for osc commands | 20:33 |
skraynev_ | stevebaker: correct ^ ? | 20:34 |
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skraynev_ | #topic Mitaka-2 release date | 20:34 |
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stevebaker | +1 | 20:34 |
skraynev_ | stevebaker: ok | 20:34 |
skraynev_ | the most important topic | 20:34 |
skraynev_ | on the next week should be released m-2 | 20:35 |
skraynev_ | #link http://docs.openstack.org/releases/schedules/mitaka.html | 20:35 |
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skraynev_ | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/mitaka-2 | 20:35 |
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skraynev_ | we have 5 BPs, probably 2 of them will be merged | 20:36 |
skraynev_ | other have more patches for review | 20:36 |
skraynev_ | #link welcome to review this one https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/add-neutron-address-scope | 20:36 |
skraynev_ | there is one patch need to be merged | 20:37 |
skraynev_ | Senlin is blocked by one patch with WIP... | 20:37 |
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skraynev_ | jdob: and I remember about your patches. for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/heat/+spec/multi-environments | 20:38 |
jdob | i was gonna pester people about those :) | 20:38 |
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jdob | right now failing CI from the ceilometer fix, but should hopefully pass soon | 20:38 |
jdob | since that fix got merged | 20:38 |
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skraynev_ | jdob. sure | 20:39 |
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jasond | here's another for m-2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/256872/ | 20:40 |
skraynev_ | about bugs.... welcome to fix them. looks like we need to make some bug fixing day ;) | 20:40 |
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skraynev_ | jasond: updated. doh. a lot of patches need to review. | 20:41 |
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skraynev_ | #topic Enabling convergence by default | 20:42 |
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skraynev_ | zaneb, stevebaker: ananta raised this question on the previous meeting | 20:43 |
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zaneb | is it ready? | 20:43 |
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skraynev_ | AFAIK, we still have some skipped functional tests for convergence | 20:43 |
skraynev_ | except this job is green about month | 20:44 |
skraynev_ | so we need to make decision about it | 20:44 |
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jdob | would it make sense to hold off until after m2 to be safe? | 20:45 |
jdob | "safer", I suppose | 20:45 |
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skraynev_ | jdob: you stole my words ;) | 20:45 |
skraynev_ | ananta suggested to do it before m-2 | 20:46 |
zaneb | I'd like to see us not skip any tests | 20:46 |
stevebaker | I'm still yet to get a tripleo overcloud to deploy with convergence | 20:46 |
jdob | :) | 20:46 |
zaneb | but I'd also like to see us flip it soon, so that if there's screaming we will hear it before the Mitaka release | 20:46 |
skraynev_ | however I prefer to do it after m-2 | 20:46 |
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stevebaker | I tried it mid-december and it didn't work, but I'll try again soon | 20:46 |
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stevebaker | ... and this time raise bugs ;) | 20:47 |
skraynev_ | stevebaker: could you check it after m-2 ? | 20:47 |
skraynev_ | and I will prepare announce about our plans | 20:47 |
skraynev_ | zaneb: and in this ^ mail mention a important patches | 20:48 |
skraynev_ | for enabling skipped tests | 20:48 |
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skraynev_ | #action sent mail about making convergence by default after m-2 | 20:49 |
skraynev_ | #topic Open Discussion | 20:49 |
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skraynev_ | something else for discussion? | 20:50 |
markvan | hi, just a plug for the lbaasv2 work https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/heat+branch:master+topic:bp/lbaasv2-suport | 20:50 |
markvan | is that something that could make the review priority list? | 20:50 |
markvan | it's very close now, thx for all the previous review efforts | 20:51 |
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skraynev_ | I don't want to be a rough, but looks like we will not do it before m-2. Could you ping more core-reviewers from the next week | 20:53 |
skraynev_ | I believe we will take a look on it | 20:53 |
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markvan | yup, was not expecting it for m-2, just want to keep it a float | 20:53 |
skraynev_ | and will merge if you say, that it's ready ;) | 20:53 |
skraynev_ | markvan: sure | 20:53 |
markvan | thx | 20:54 |
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skraynev_ | good. we can finish now ;) | 20:55 |
skraynev_ | thank you all, guys :) | 20:55 |
jdob | \o | 20:55 |
stevebaker | \o | 20:55 |
skraynev_ | #endmeeting | 20:55 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 13 20:55:16 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:55 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-01-13-20.00.html | 20:55 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-01-13-20.00.txt | 20:55 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-01-13-20.00.log.html | 20:55 |
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notmyname | swift team meeting time | 21:00 |
notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 13 21:00:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
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notmyname | hello, everyone | 21:00 |
notmyname | who's here for the swift team meeting? | 21:00 |
mattoliverau | o/ | 21:00 |
Zyric_ | Hello | 21:00 |
acoles | here | 21:00 |
minwoob | o/ | 21:00 |
ho_away | o/ | 21:00 |
gmmaha | o/ | 21:00 |
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jlhinson | o/ | 21:00 |
joeljwright | o/ | 21:00 |
cschwede | o/ | 21:00 |
kota_ | hello | 21:00 |
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m_kazuhiro | o/ | 21:00 |
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peterlisak | hello | 21:01 |
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notmyname | good to see you | 21:02 |
notmyname | agenda for this week is | 21:02 |
notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:02 |
torgomatic_ | . | 21:02 |
notmyname | a few things to discuss, so let's get started | 21:02 |
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jrichli | o/ | 21:02 |
notmyname | #topic change schedule priority (patch 238799) | 21:02 |
patchbot | notmyname: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/238799/ - Change schedule priority of daemon/server in config | 21:02 |
cutforth | o/ | 21:02 |
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notmyname | peterlisak: this is your patch | 21:03 |
notmyname | nad it's been discussed in this meeting now for the past two weeks | 21:03 |
blmartin | o/ | 21:03 |
notmyname | but there's a couple of things raised in the review comments | 21:03 |
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notmyname | I've tried to summarize them on the agenda | 21:03 |
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notmyname | first, does this actually do anything positive, or is it too blunt of an instrument for the stated goal? | 21:04 |
notmyname | Swift's processes are rather interconnected, so it's very difficult to isolate a logical API operation by process. eg nice'ing the container server would impact object PUTs since the container is updated as part of the object write. | 21:04 |
notmyname | second, assuming that yes this patch does improve things | 21:04 |
notmyname | Should we even be doing this in Swift itself instead of distro init scripts. On the one hand, the ionice priority "code" has to be rewritten for every distro. On the other, ops know ionice and how/when to use it and does that actually belong in Swift? If it does, why not other ops/management tools? | 21:04 |
notmyname | peterlisak: is that a fair summary? | 21:04 |
peterlisak | notmyname, yes | 21:05 |
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notmyname | so, what do you (everyone) think? peterlisak, is there anything you've got to address these? | 21:05 |
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peterlisak | firstly i think we should make some more tests if there is any improvements ... is there onovy? | 21:05 |
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notmyname | I don't see him in here | 21:06 |
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mattoliverau | donagh would be good too, but he isn't here either | 21:07 |
notmyname | should we table this for now then? | 21:07 |
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mattoliverau | I like the idea, but i'm not an op.. and really question 1 needs to be answered before question 2 | 21:08 |
notmyname | right. if it doesn't help, the answer to question 2 doesn't matter | 21:08 |
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mattoliverau | right | 21:09 |
notmyname | peterlisak: since it seems there a few people I'd like to have involved who aren't here, let's table this until next week | 21:09 |
notmyname | peterlisak: can you work on getting some results from this change? | 21:09 |
peterlisak | ok, we will make more tests and then we move, right? | 21:09 |
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notmyname | right. if you can show that yes it does actually help to adjust the ionice of swift processes, then we can get to answering the second objection | 21:10 |
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notmyname | I'll make a comment on the code review reflecting that | 21:10 |
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peterlisak | ok, thanks ... i understand it is useless without improvement proof | 21:10 |
notmyname | in the meanwhile, if anyone else is interested in this or think it's a really good idea, I'm sure peterlisak and onovy would appreciate other eyes on showing results | 21:11 |
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notmyname | ok, next up.. | 21:11 |
peterlisak | notmyname, yes | 21:11 |
notmyname | #topic patch 266599 object auditor patch | 21:11 |
patchbot | notmyname: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266599/ - Make object-auditor storage-policy-aware | 21:11 |
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notmyname | ok, so this one is frankly embarassing | 21:11 |
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notmyname | timburke found it | 21:11 |
mattoliverau | if ops are already using nice/ionice it would be good to hear from them why, is it helping etc | 21:12 |
notmyname | mattoliverau: +1 | 21:12 |
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notmyname | it turns out that the object auditors just flat out don't work with EC policies (because they don't load the right diskfile) | 21:12 |
mattoliverau | yeah, opps. Thanks timburke for finding and pushing a patch | 21:12 |
notmyname | so, first, this is a critical fix that blocks a release | 21:13 |
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notmyname | and second, we need it to land asap | 21:13 |
acoles | what is timburke *not* fixing? :) | 21:13 |
acoles | i can review it but not til tomorrow | 21:13 |
notmyname | (and figuring out how we managed to not do this or find it would be interesting) | 21:13 |
notmyname | acoles: thanks | 21:13 |
mattoliverau | that is true, he's a machine.. I don't know what swiftstack feeds there devs | 21:13 |
timburke | i'm a little concerned about how the object replicator also only uses a (replicated) DiskFileManager, but i'm not sure it's actually a problem | 21:14 |
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acoles | timburke: the replicator shouldn't process EC objects, but maybe that needs checking over too | 21:15 |
mattoliverau | EC should use the reconstructor | 21:15 |
mattoliverau | not replicator | 21:15 |
notmyname | mattoliverau: that word "should" though ;-) | 21:16 |
notmyname | mattoliverau: also, the auditor should handle different policies ;-) | 21:16 |
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notmyname | timburke: after this patch lands, it would be good to look at backporting the patch, at least to liberty (2.5.0) | 21:17 |
kota_ | +1 | 21:17 |
timburke | makes sense. just going down the list of places where i see DiskFileManager, not DiskFileRouter :) | 21:17 |
notmyname | I'm glad you are :-) | 21:18 |
notmyname | I've started on something else like that. I've got a local WIP that lets EC objects use fallocate. EC doesn't currently | 21:18 |
notmyname | timburke: anything else on this topic other than "go review, it's a big deal" ? | 21:19 |
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notmyname | ok | 21:20 |
notmyname | #topic what's going on in swift? | 21:20 |
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notmyname | in last week's meeting, I went on about getting a good picture of all the things going on | 21:21 |
notmyname | I've sent most of you, I think, an email asking a few questions | 21:21 |
notmyname | #link https://gist.github.com/notmyname/be49b04165928fd6662f | 21:21 |
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notmyname | that's the 4 questions I sent out | 21:21 |
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notmyname | and I've been getting great feedback! | 21:21 |
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notmyname | I'll be collecting all the responses and putting those together for people | 21:22 |
notmyname | (anonymized. no names with anything) | 21:22 |
notmyname | if you haven't responded, or if you didn't get an email about this (sorry), then feel free to send me your thoughts | 21:22 |
notmyname | you can send it to me@not.mn | 21:23 |
notmyname | but I'd really love to hear what you're working on, what you think is important, and where we're going | 21:23 |
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notmyname | I'd love to share some of the early responses (or themes from them), but I also don't want to influence what people say if they haven't responded yet ;-) | 21:24 |
torgomatic_ | and what color we should paint the handbasket | 21:24 |
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notmyname | torgomatic_: we've got very good intentions | 21:25 |
mattoliverau | notmyname: thanks for collecting and sorting all the data, it's a great idea. Getting the community's throughts | 21:25 |
notmyname | but here's one thing to be thinking about that more than a few people have responded with... | 21:25 |
gmmaha | notmyname: maybe a small end date for folks to send the info your way by | 21:25 |
notmyname | one of the biggest pain points (and one that isn't a surprise to anyone, I think), is that patches sit in gerrit waiting for reviews for a *long* time | 21:26 |
notmyname | gmmaha: good thinking | 21:26 |
notmyname | deadline for responses: this week. send them to me by friday | 21:26 |
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notmyname | on the topic of slow reviews, what do you think after one week of having the "small things" section on the dashboard? | 21:27 |
notmyname | is it good? does it help you? | 21:27 |
notmyname | (have you actually looked at it to review stuff? ;-) | 21:27 |
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acoles | "every dashboard is a little better than the next" :) | 21:28 |
cschwede | used it this morning, quite useful and will probably help | 21:28 |
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mattoliverau | lol | 21:28 |
notmyname | cschwede: cool | 21:28 |
ho_away | acoles: lol | 21:29 |
kota_ | i picked up some patches from small things ;) | 21:29 |
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mattoliverau | I've looked, I think its good. Sometimes reviews take quite a while, small one are _usually_ quicker so I think it's a good idea. | 21:29 |
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acoles | seriously, i take note of the spark lines for size, but I am aware that I could fill a day reviewing small patches and thats another day that the big ones wait | 21:29 |
Zyric_ | Ah is that why I don't see it? You need to select the upgrade for the dashboard? How do you do that? | 21:29 |
notmyname | right. I can think of a few small patches that would completely break everything | 21:30 |
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notmyname | Zyric_: yeah, a dashboard is just a link. so "upgrading" is using a different link | 21:30 |
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mattoliverau | or updating with the new link in you gerrit settings, if you've added a menu item for it | 21:30 |
notmyname | the current link of the latest review dashboard is in the channel topic | 21:31 |
notmyname | mattoliverau: oooh. how's that work? | 21:31 |
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acoles | but on balance I think its useful to help speed some reviews through | 21:31 |
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notmyname | mattoliverau: oh, you mean updating a bookmark? | 21:32 |
mattoliverau | notmyname: gerrit, settings > preferences then add the link #/dashboard.. to the my menu | 21:32 |
acoles | notmyname: i think you can change your default dashboard in gerrit settings | 21:32 |
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mattoliverau | then it appears under the My menu | 21:32 |
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acoles | mattoliverau: i should do that! | 21:33 |
timburke | ...and if you move it to the top of the list, it becomes your default dashboard | 21:33 |
notmyname | ah, cool | 21:33 |
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notmyname | on the positive side, there's been a lot of great comments about the community. everyone seems to like working on swift and working with others who work on swift | 21:34 |
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cschwede | yeah, that’s awesome! | 21:34 |
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peterlisak | cool :) | 21:35 |
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notmyname | please give me your feedback on those questions asap, and I'll collate everything share what I find | 21:35 |
notmyname | I've also got an idea for a cool visualization of it that i'm working on | 21:35 |
notmyname | acoles: so you'll have a different picture to roll your eyes about ;-) | 21:35 |
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acoles | hehe | 21:36 |
onovy | sorry i'm late. ionice/nice discussion is over i think | 21:36 |
peterlisak | notmyname, where will it be published? | 21:36 |
acoles | notmyname: actually the words 'mind map' crossed my mind | 21:36 |
notmyname | peterlisak: of course :-) | 21:36 |
notmyname | peterlisak: oh. you said where, not will | 21:36 |
notmyname | peterlisak: yes, of course it will be published. probably informally in IRC rather than some blog post or something | 21:36 |
notmyname | onovy: no worries. you and peterlisak have a todo from it, and we'll address the questions at next week's meeting | 21:37 |
notmyname | #topic open discussion | 21:37 |
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onovy | notmyname: just read backlog, ok, thanks | 21:37 |
notmyname | acoles: yeah, "mind map" is a good phrase. or zeitgeist | 21:37 |
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notmyname | so open discussion | 21:38 |
notmyname | anythign else to bring up this week? | 21:38 |
hrou | Just wanted to give a really quick update as some folks have been asking; For symlink, we're trying to get post-to-target working, and we're pretty happy with post-as-copy handling (well it sucks but its no worse then .. : - ) so we're not looking at fast-post. More soon, just a heads up. | 21:38 |
hrou | *we're now looking at fast-post | 21:38 |
acoles | hrou: glad you clarified that :) | 21:39 |
notmyname | :-) | 21:39 |
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hrou | acoles, lol sorry I figured you of all people wouldn't have liked how that was originally stated ;) | 21:39 |
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onovy | if we have time: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/251151/ simple question: UTC or localtime? if UTC, it's done. if localtime, than patch1 | 21:39 |
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notmyname | in general, always UTC for anythign that matters. but translating that to localtime in CLI output or a visualization seems reasonable | 21:40 |
notmyname | (was that answer ambiguous enough?) | 21:40 |
onovy | :) | 21:41 |
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onovy | for now its utc and locatime together which is wrong | 21:41 |
notmyname | and since operators may have (and in my experience often do) clusters in timezones that are different from themselves (and multiples in multiple TZs), IMO UTC. | 21:41 |
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onovy | so results of swift-recon will be same on all servers, tz doesn't matter | 21:42 |
notmyname | eg if I'm in california and have a cluster in sydney and one in london, what's "localtime" on my dashboard? | 21:42 |
onovy | that's imho correct | 21:42 |
onovy | yep, that's good point | 21:42 |
onovy | so it's done i think. ready for review :) | 21:42 |
notmyname | and let's not even get into daylight saving time :-( | 21:43 |
Zyric_ | It'd be awesome to get more feedback on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/212824/ and https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262087/ please, if you have time. | 21:43 |
notmyname | ah yes. the audit watchers | 21:43 |
mattoliverau | everything should be in Sydney time | 21:43 |
peterlisak | and if i can also ask you, i have two older patches waiting to review 253038 and 253037 ... thanks | 21:43 |
onovy | Zyric_: second one have jenkins -1 | 21:44 |
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notmyname | I'm planning to re-star priority reviews after we get the current ones landed for a release | 21:44 |
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notmyname | anything else to discuss? or shall we end now? | 21:44 |
Zyric_ | onovy: It's a new test and seems to work most of the time. I'm fixing and splitting it today. | 21:45 |
onovy | mattoliverau: why syndey? use stardate! | 21:45 |
acoles | reminder to those coming to hackathon, hotel group rate expires mext Monday, although we have asked for an extension | 21:45 |
timburke | i just want to say thanks to acoles and joeljwright for getting patch 226897 in; I rather like that swiftclient can retry both uploads and downloads now | 21:45 |
patchbot | timburke: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226897/ - Retry file uploads via SwiftService (MERGED) | 21:45 |
notmyname | ah yes, that hackathon! | 21:45 |
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mattoliverau | onovy: cause I'm lazy and Sydney is my time :P | 21:45 |
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notmyname | link for registration for the hackathon is https://www.eventbrite.com/e/swift-hackathon-bristol-sponsored-by-hpe-tickets-19994495073 | 21:45 |
notmyname | #link https://www.eventbrite.com/e/swift-hackathon-bristol-sponsored-by-hpe-tickets-19994495073 | 21:45 |
onovy | mattoliverau: i know it :) | 21:45 |
acoles | timburke: the symmetry was quite satisfying | 21:45 |
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joeljwright | timburke: I'm just sorry it took me so long to get back to that patch | 21:46 |
cschwede | that said, thanks acoles for organizing the hackathon and hotel reservation! | 21:46 |
jrichli | +1 | 21:46 |
notmyname | yes! | 21:46 |
acoles | i have a couple of EC related patches that have been around a while, patch 181407 and patch 232684 | 21:47 |
patchbot | acoles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/181407/ - EC: Avoid conflicts when ssync'ing fragments | 21:47 |
patchbot | acoles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/232684/ - Don't ssync data when only a durable is missing | 21:47 |
notmyname | I'm looking forward to it. and probably need to buy a heavier coat | 21:47 |
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acoles | we have a great crowd signed up, I am looking forward to it | 21:47 |
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notmyname | then if there's nothing else... | 21:48 |
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notmyname | thanks for coming today. and thanks for working on swift | 21:49 |
notmyname | #endmeeting | 21:49 |
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