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| skrainev | #startmeeting heat | 07:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 3 07:00:23 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is skrainev. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: heat)" | 07:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 07:00 |
| skrainev | #topic rollcall | 07:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "rollcall (Meeting topic: heat)" | 07:00 | |
| stevebaker | \o | 07:00 |
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| skrainev | ramishra | 07:01 |
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| stevebaker | thats is? | 07:01 |
| stevebaker | that is it? | 07:01 |
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| KanagarajM__ | hi | 07:02 |
| tiantian | hi | 07:02 |
| skrainev | stevebaker: difficult day :) | 07:02 |
| ramishra | hi all | 07:02 |
| ramishra | sorry I'm a little late | 07:02 |
| skrainev | #topic Adding items to agenda | 07:03 |
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| skrainev | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282016-02-3_0700_UTC.29 | 07:03 |
| skrainev | ramishra : np ;) | 07:03 |
| skrainev | I wanted to discuss gate status today | 07:04 |
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| stevebaker | can we talk heat openstack commands? | 07:04 |
| skrainev | So there is only one item in agenda :) | 07:04 |
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| skrainev | stevebaker : sure | 07:05 |
| skrainev | Agenda is updated | 07:06 |
| ramishra | skraynev: I wanted to discuss the update restrict bp, though shardy and zaneb are not around:( | 07:06 |
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| skrainev | #topic Gate status and migration to v3 endpoint | 07:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gate status and migration to v3 endpoint (Meeting topic: heat)" | 07:06 | |
| ramishra | may be we can do it next meeting | 07:06 |
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| stevebaker | I saw the switch to v3 was reverted | 07:07 |
| skrainev | ramishra: +1 to do it on the next week. Could you please add it to agenda for the next week? | 07:07 |
| skrainev | stevebaker: yeap | 07:07 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: yes, it's reverted. Though we spent quite sometime to fix it. | 07:08 |
| stevebaker | can our v3 fix stay in and it still pass with v2? | 07:08 |
| skrainev | ramishra: I have seen some patches from you for our functionaltests | 07:08 |
| ramishra | yes, the latest patch would pass for both v2 and v3 | 07:09 |
| skrainev | ramishra: also what the final decision about tempest job? | 07:09 |
| ramishra | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274159/ | 07:09 |
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| ramishra | skrainev: I dropped the earlier patch and have a new patch which removed all the setup_credential stuff for heat https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275315/ | 07:10 |
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| ramishra | hope we can get it through the tempest team this time. | 07:10 |
| stevebaker | ramishra: ok sounds like we're prepared for next time | 07:10 |
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| stevebaker | I'm trying to find the etherpads where v3 breakage is documented - they didn't list heat | 07:11 |
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| ramishra | stevebaker: i did pu them yesterday | 07:11 |
| stevebaker | ah, there it is | 07:12 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: which one are you looking at? | 07:12 |
| stevebaker | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/v3-only-devstack | 07:12 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: It's there after Cinder:) | 07:12 |
| stevebaker | yep, I see it | 07:12 |
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| skrainev | ramishra, stevebaker: sounds good. I hope, that next attempt for migration will be without issues | 07:14 |
| stevebaker | ok, looks like we're in a good position for next time | 07:14 |
| skrainev | #topic OSC commands | 07:15 |
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| skrainev | ramishra: if you need some help please ping me | 07:15 |
| stevebaker | they're starting to land, but every one gets a merge conflict on setup.cfg | 07:15 |
| ramishra | skrainev: sure | 07:15 |
| stevebaker | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-heatclient+branch:master+topic:bp/heat-support-python-openstackclient | 07:16 |
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| skrainev | stevebaker: is it related with my patch? Or it's of changing the same file | 07:16 |
| stevebaker | I see two options to help here, 1. the approver needs to do the rebase first | 07:17 |
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| stevebaker | 2. we ask for strict alphabetical ordering of openstack.orchestration.v1 so that merge conflicts become less likely as inserts happen throughout the list instead of always at the end | 07:18 |
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| stevebaker | I've been doing 1 | 07:18 |
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| skrainev | stevebaker: 1 is easier for now :) | 07:20 |
| stevebaker | yeah its not that bad, and I think we should reorder later anyway | 07:20 |
| skrainev | I will try to help with landing | 07:20 |
| stevebaker | skrainev: thanks | 07:21 |
| skrainev | +1 for sorting it in the future | 07:21 |
| stevebaker | skrainev: feel free to rebase and approve your own change | 07:21 |
| skrainev | Ok | 07:21 |
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| skrainev | Anything else for discussion? | 07:22 |
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| skrainev | #topic Open discussion | 07:23 |
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| ramishra | I need some doc patches to be reviewed, one on spec-lite stuff. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/271177/ | 07:24 |
| tiantian | about the resource condition, the poc https://review.openstack.org/#/c/221648/ hope to be reviewed:) | 07:24 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: Just wanted to check if you're ok with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/259801/, after I addressed your comments? | 07:27 |
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| stevebaker | ramishra: I'll take a look | 07:27 |
| ramishra | stevebaker: thanks | 07:28 |
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| skrainev | ramishra, tiantian: also please focus review on BPs and bugs for m3 | 07:30 |
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| tiantian | skrainev, sure:) | 07:31 |
| ramishra | skrainev: sure | 07:31 |
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| skrainev | Ok. I think we may finish meeting | 07:32 |
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| skrainev | Thank you all :) | 07:33 |
| stevebaker | yeh lets | 07:33 |
| skrainev | #endmeeting | 07:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 3 07:33:23 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 07:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-02-03-07.00.html | 07:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-02-03-07.00.txt | 07:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-02-03-07.00.log.html | 07:33 |
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| BobBall | #startmeeting XenAPI | 09:30 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 3 09:30:25 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is BobBall. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: XenAPI)" | 09:30 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'xenapi' | 09:30 |
| BobBall | ping johnthetubaguy | 09:30 |
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| BobBall | Just waiting for johnthetubaguy :) | 09:31 |
| huazhihao | OK | 09:31 |
| huanxie | sure | 09:31 |
| BobBall | #topic Blueprints | 09:32 |
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| johnthetubaguy | oh, didn't see your first ping, chatting on #openstack-nova about xenapi live-migrate | 09:32 |
| BobBall | I think you have one BP up huanxie ? | 09:32 |
| BobBall | Soz - working from home so not in #openstack-nova atm | 09:32 |
| BobBall | Worth bringing into here for a more focused chat? | 09:32 |
| huanxie | BobBall: do you mean security group ? | 09:32 |
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| BobBall | sorry huanxie - wrong tab complete, I meant huazhihao | 09:32 |
| huanxie | ah, i see | 09:33 |
| huazhihao | Ah the named vhd | 09:33 |
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| huazhihao | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/bare-vhd-image | 09:33 |
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| BobBall | That's the one | 09:33 |
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| BobBall | johnthetubaguy: What's the rough schedule for when cores might start looking at Newton specs? Is it too early to ask for reviews? | 09:34 |
| huazhihao | I think the logic is quite straightforward and can be recognized as a specless one | 09:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | yes, reviews are likely post mitaka-3 | 09:34 |
| johnthetubaguy | I mean do internal review, and folks might review them, but yeah | 09:34 |
| BobBall | of course | 09:35 |
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| BobBall | we're aiming to have 3-4 specs | 09:36 |
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| BobBall | Feels like a lot for a driver, but we've got lots of ground to catch up on | 09:36 |
| BobBall | #topic Bugs | 09:36 |
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| BobBall | Main item is we're still pushing for reviews on huanxie's fix for the VIF logic | 09:37 |
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| BobBall | as it's the head of a series including Neutron fixes | 09:37 |
| huanxie | I have two patches ready for review | 09:37 |
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| BobBall | Do you have a link to the vif plug/unplug on huanxie? | 09:37 |
| huanxie | yes, | 09:37 |
| huanxie | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254022/ | 09:37 |
| BobBall | johnthetubaguy: ^^ I know you've reviewed before, but all comments have been implemented now so a re-review would be appreciated. | 09:38 |
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| huanxie | Johnthetubaguy: yes, have changed some part according to comments and also there is another one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/213112/ which you have approved but meet merge conflict so after rebase, need your help to review again:) | 09:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | just ping me on IRC for the stuff that got a rebase, most cores will do a quick check an re-approve those quick | 09:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | ly | 09:40 |
| johnthetubaguy | right now I have spending all my time on the FFE reviews and planning | 09:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | as are most nova-cores, in theory | 09:41 |
| huanxie | johnthetubaguy: got it, thanks a lot | 09:41 |
| johnthetubaguy | huanxie: sorry, I missed this before, but the deprecated configuration values need a Reno release note | 09:42 |
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| johnthetubaguy | this is the useful link for those things: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/code-review.html#when-a-release-note-is-needed | 09:43 |
| huanxie | johnthetubaguy: thanks, I will refer this and finish this asap | 09:44 |
| BobBall | good spot | 09:44 |
| BobBall | I keep forgetting about reno - I'm stuck in the docimpact days ;) | 09:44 |
| BobBall | #topic AOB | 09:44 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, likewise | 09:44 |
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| BobBall | Anything else to talk about today | 09:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | so I was just talking about this one: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/254101/19 | 09:44 |
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| BobBall | Yeah - was just looking at that one | 09:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | its part of the nice live-migrate stuff, basically we are making most of the live-migrate arguments optional, because we know what to do better than the admin 99% of the time | 09:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | its something I wrote a spec for a few years back and never had chance to implement, so I am excited to see it happen! | 09:46 |
| johnthetubaguy | thats just a heads up | 09:46 |
| BobBall | I've been vaguely following it and good to see it happen for sure | 09:46 |
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| BobBall | OK - are we done here? | 09:47 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am. | 09:47 |
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| BobBall | AOB huanxie or huazhihao ? | 09:47 |
| huanxie | that's all for me | 09:47 |
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| huazhihao | Me too | 09:47 |
| BobBall | Awesome - we'll close there then | 09:47 |
| BobBall | #endmeeting | 09:47 |
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| BobBall | Thanks all | 09:47 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 3 09:47:49 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:47 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2016/xenapi.2016-02-03-09.30.html | 09:47 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2016/xenapi.2016-02-03-09.30.txt | 09:47 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/xenapi/2016/xenapi.2016-02-03-09.30.log.html | 09:47 |
| huazhihao | Thanks Bob and John | 09:48 |
| huazhihao | And Huan | 09:48 |
| huanxie | Thank you all:) | 09:48 |
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| rluethi | dguitarbite: ping | 10:33 |
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| rluethi | #startmeeting training_labs | 10:35 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 3 10:35:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rluethi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 10:35 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 10:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: training_labs)" | 10:35 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_labs' | 10:35 |
| rluethi | anyone else here today? | 10:35 |
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| rluethi | sigh | 10:37 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: pong | 10:37 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: Im here | 10:37 |
| rluethi | #info Liberty patch ready for review, will be merged soon | 10:37 |
| rluethi | alrite | 10:37 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: I have +2 from my side. | 10:38 |
| rluethi | #topic liberty | 10:38 |
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| dguitarbite | rluethi: does it make sense to wait for others now? Since they are not active recently. | 10:38 |
| rluethi | Maybe we should ping them? | 10:38 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: lets try | 10:38 |
| rluethi | I'd merge the patch before Friday (next specialty team report). | 10:39 |
| dguitarbite | Works for me. | 10:39 |
| dguitarbite | Friday it is then. Lets send them an email to review the patch before Friday. | 10:39 |
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| rluethi | okay then. | 10:40 |
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| rluethi | #topic zip files/tar ball | 10:40 |
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| rluethi | dguitarbite: what's the status there? | 10:41 |
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| dguitarbite | rluethi: code on my ws | 10:42 |
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| dguitarbite | rluethi: have to give it finishing touches and push for review. | 10:43 |
| rluethi | sounds good. so we'll have something by next week? | 10:43 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: I can promise the review before the end of next week :) | 10:44 |
| rluethi | great. | 10:44 |
| dguitarbite | :D | 10:44 |
| rluethi | other issues? | 10:45 |
| dguitarbite | nope | 10:45 |
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| rluethi | okay. Let's merge Liberty then and pick up the rest of the development projects afterwards. | 10:45 |
| rluethi | meeting done? | 10:46 |
| dguitarbite | I have another topic to discuss | 10:46 |
| rluethi | shoot. | 10:46 |
| dguitarbite | we have another user trying to use GCE backend | 10:46 |
| rluethi | #topic Google Compute Engine | 10:46 |
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| dguitarbite | can you quickly check your email? I have cc'd you in the conversation. | 10:47 |
| rluethi | yeah, I just saw the email. | 10:47 |
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| rluethi | basically, our problem with GCE has not changed: it is very, very slow. | 10:47 |
| rluethi | cluster build takes weeks and won't finish. | 10:47 |
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| dguitarbite | yes, I suggest taking another point of view for the same. | 10:48 |
| rluethi | it does work quite okay within other VMs. | 10:48 |
| rluethi | not within Google's. | 10:48 |
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| dguitarbite | yes, I am considering adding AWS, GCE backend support. I have a strong feeling that it will boost the number of users we have! | 10:49 |
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| rluethi | that's a different issue. | 10:50 |
| rluethi | the problem is with nested virtualization. | 10:50 |
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| rluethi | you seem to be talking about using GCE VMs as node VMs | 10:50 |
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| dguitarbite | yes, not an issue but we could easily take this approach. | 10:51 |
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| dguitarbite | This would mean we need to python port ready for sure! But lets add this in our minds and may be speak about it in the upcoming summit. | 10:51 |
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| rluethi | sure. | 10:52 |
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| rluethi | the main focus for me is something that does not cost users money. and something that does not require an internet connection. | 10:53 |
| rluethi | aws and gce don't qualify there. | 10:53 |
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| dguitarbite | rluethi: yes you are right. Does it make sense to discuss these details during the summit? | 10:54 |
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| rluethi | of course. | 10:54 |
| dguitarbite | rluethi: Ok then, I'm done from my side. | 10:54 |
| rluethi | Me, too. | 10:55 |
| rluethi | #endmeeting | 10:55 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 3 10:55:14 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:55 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_labs/2016/training_labs.2016-02-03-10.35.html | 10:55 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_labs/2016/training_labs.2016-02-03-10.35.txt | 10:55 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_labs/2016/training_labs.2016-02-03-10.35.log.html | 10:55 |
| rluethi | see you around. | 10:55 |
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| joehuang | hi | 12:59 |
| Yipei | hi all | 13:00 |
| zhiyuan | hi | 13:00 |
| BeanZhang | Hi, I'm Bin Zhang from SJTU | 13:00 |
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| joehuang | hi Bean | 13:00 |
| joehuang | first time to meet you here | 13:00 |
| Yipei | hi Bin | 13:00 |
| BeanZhang | nice to meet you~ | 13:00 |
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| joehuang | #startmeeting tricircle | 13:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 3 13:01:29 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is joehuang. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tricircle' | 13:01 |
| joehuang | hi, Bean, could you introduce yourself> | 13:01 |
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| BeanZhang | ok | 13:02 |
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| joehuang | hi Pengfei | 13:02 |
| Pengfei | hi, Joe | 13:02 |
| BeanZhang | i'm an undergraduate student from Shanghai Jiao Tong University. | 13:02 |
| joehuang | Could also introduce youself, Pengfei? | 13:03 |
| Pengfei | Yep! | 13:03 |
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| joehuang | Zhiyuan was graduated from SJTU? | 13:04 |
| Pengfei | I'm also from SJTU, and also be the student of Pro. Jin | 13:04 |
| BeanZhang | i'm new developer of openstack, deployed my first openstack in june, 2015. | 13:04 |
| joehuang | great, like a family of SJTU | 13:04 |
| zhiyuan | Yes, graduated in 2014 | 13:05 |
| joehuang | Yipei from HUST | 13:05 |
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| joehuang | #rollcall | 13:05 |
| joehuang | #topic rollcall | 13:05 |
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| joehuang | #info joehuang | 13:05 |
| zhiyuan | #info zhiyuan | 13:06 |
| Yipei | #info Yipei | 13:06 |
| Pengfei | #info Pengfei | 13:06 |
| BeanZhang | #info BeanZhang | 13:06 |
| joehuang | #topic progress review | 13:06 |
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| joehuang | hi, Yipei, how about you | 13:06 |
| Yipei | i have already installed devstack in two nodes. i think find a solution to fix the bug, but i am not sure whether it is correct | 13:07 |
| joehuang | interesting | 13:07 |
| Yipei | i set the OS_REGION_NAME statically as "RegionOne" | 13:07 |
| joehuang | in Node2? | 13:07 |
| Yipei | yes | 13:07 |
| Yipei | when starting cinder, i set it as Pod2 | 13:08 |
| Yipei | it returns no error | 13:08 |
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| joehuang | it can run, but will it use the keystone in the node1? | 13:09 |
| Yipei | yes | 13:09 |
| Pengfei | Now Bean and I want to deploy the tricircle by some Devstack nodes in SJTU's OpenStack, and try to learn more practicely about the project by this way:-) | 13:09 |
| Yipei | it shares the keystone with node1 | 13:09 |
| joehuang | and tricircle may not see the node2 services, you have to manully configure the services in the node1 keystone | 13:10 |
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| zhiyuan | so the region of services in node2 are registered as RegionOne or Pod2? | 13:10 |
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| joehuang | yes, make your hand dirty is the fast way | 13:10 |
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| Yipei | other services are registered as Pod2 | 13:11 |
| Pengfei | bingo! | 13:11 |
| Yipei | except keystone | 13:11 |
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| joehuang | to Pengfei and Bean, if any help need, just send mail in the openstack dev maillist | 13:11 |
| BeanZhang | yeah | 13:11 |
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| Pengfei | thanks a lot! | 13:11 |
| BeanZhang | i receive the maillist all the way | 13:11 |
| zhiyuan | not sure if this is a good fix, since OS_REGION_NAME is a configurable option in DevStack | 13:12 |
| joehuang | to Zhiyuan, I am afraid it will overlap one Region configuration | 13:12 |
| BeanZhang | if we occur some problem or any questions, we will send mail to [openstack-dev][tricircle] maillist | 13:12 |
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| Yipei | ok, got it | 13:12 |
| zhipeng | BeanZhang that is right | 13:13 |
| joehuang | that's the correct way to get help | 13:13 |
| zhiyuan | to BeanZhang, are you going to install OpenStack on bare metal machine, or virtual machine? | 13:13 |
| joehuang | we alwasys watch the mail-list | 13:13 |
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| BeanZhang | virtual machine | 13:13 |
| BeanZhang | any suggestions? | 13:14 |
| joehuang | but Chinese new year is approaching, maybe sometime a later response | 13:14 |
| Yipei | i can try to verify whether the solution is correct, i just solve it today | 13:14 |
| zhiyuan | the l3 networking functionality requires vlan network support | 13:15 |
| joehuang | virtual machine ok, but need to be aware of the VLAN configuration, some guide in the github | 13:15 |
| joehuang | Go on please, Yipei | 13:15 |
| Yipei | ok, got it | 13:15 |
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| zhiyuan | What I use is vmware vcenter | 13:15 |
| joehuang | espeically make sure the service catalog and endpoint in node1 keystone are correct | 13:16 |
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| joehuang | to Zhiyuan, your progress briefly | 13:16 |
| Yipei | ok, got it | 13:16 |
| joehuang | pls | 13:16 |
| Pengfei | yep! we made devstack with neutron before, and vlan by vlan may cause some problems | 13:17 |
| zhiyuan | ok, l3 north-south networking functionality is done, but as Joe commented in the patch, I need to improve the patch | 13:17 |
| joehuang | this is a great step | 13:18 |
| zhiyuan | If user associate an unbound port to a floating ip, I need to create the port on bottom pod | 13:18 |
| joehuang | basic cross pod networking will be ready after the patch merged | 13:18 |
| zhipeng | zhiyuan has this patch be merged? | 13:18 |
| zhipeng | i may have someone want to review the networking patch | 13:19 |
| zhiyuan | not yet for the N-S part, E-W part is merged | 13:19 |
| joehuang | helpful more people to do the review | 13:19 |
| zhiyuan | yeah! | 13:19 |
| zhipeng | okay please add me for the N-S part so that I could add more people to review it | 13:19 |
| joehuang | and also zhiyuan can share the test for the distributed query | 13:20 |
| zhiyuan | send it to the maillist? | 13:20 |
| joehuang | in the meeting now, a short summary | 13:20 |
| joehuang | and also good in the ml | 13:21 |
| zhipeng | yes that one is good for ml | 13:21 |
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| joehuang | hi, zhipeng added | 13:22 |
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| joehuang | Bean and Pengfei, your account to the reviewer list? | 13:23 |
| zhiyuan | In my test, I starts two bottom pods. In each pod, N ports are created, so when we query ports from top pod, we get 2N ports. I increase N and count the response time of query operation | 13:23 |
| joehuang | or you can add comment in the patch, and then will be listed in the ptach | 13:23 |
| joehuang | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274521/ | 13:24 |
| zhiyuan | three observations | 13:24 |
| zhiyuan | (1) Neutron client costs much more time than curl, the reason may be neutron client needs to apply for a new token in each run. | 13:24 |
| zhiyuan | (2) Eventlet doesn't bring much improvement, the reason may be we only have two bottom pods. I will add some logs to do a further investigation. | 13:24 |
| zhiyuan | (3) Query 1000 ports in top pod costs about 1.5s when using curl, which is acceptable. | 13:24 |
| zhiyuan | I will send the detailed data to the mail list later | 13:25 |
| joehuang | good, please | 13:25 |
| zhipeng | great findings | 13:25 |
| joehuang | #action share the distributed query findings | 13:25 |
| joehuang | for quota management, the algorithm is updated in the document, please review in the document to see if it applicable | 13:26 |
| joehuang | and the patch for quota engin and quota set operation is submitted for review | 13:26 |
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| joehuang | this is a quite big patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274986/ | 13:27 |
| joehuang | for almost 2/3 of the code ported from the Cinder | 13:28 |
| Pengfei | thank joe for the notification! now I add myself in the reviewers ,name: Pengfei.Shi | 13:28 |
| joehuang | Great | 13:28 |
| joehuang | and for the qutoa management, please also listed yourself to the reviewer, please | 13:28 |
| joehuang | The spring festival is coming soon, I hope all of us have a pleasant new year | 13:29 |
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| joehuang | do you have started your vacation? | 13:30 |
| zhipeng | it's already getting warmer at the chat room :) | 13:30 |
| joehuang | to Pengfei, Bin, Yipei? | 13:30 |
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| BeanZhang | yeah | 13:30 |
| BeanZhang | we have gone home-:) | 13:30 |
| Yipei | me too | 13:30 |
| Yipei | i arrived home yesterday | 13:31 |
| Pengfei | yeah | 13:31 |
| zhiyuan | I have asked for one day leave and will go home on Feb 6th | 13:31 |
| joehuang | so you are working at home , SOHO | 13:31 |
| Pengfei | now I lying in the bed,hia~hia~ | 13:31 |
| joehuang | I'll start the vacation tomorrow, forgive me the review will be slower | 13:31 |
| joehuang | haha | 13:31 |
| BeanZhang | Pengfei and me have a question to ask | 13:32 |
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| joehuang | pls | 13:32 |
| BeanZhang | Pengfei and me deployed nested openstack before. The bare metal network and nested network are VLAN, but the nested network does not work, maybe we will meet the same problem. Do you ever occur similar problem? | 13:32 |
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| joehuang | you may need to configure the Switch hardware | 13:33 |
| joehuang | to let all VLAN network bypass | 13:33 |
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| joehuang | Zhiyuan, do you think so? | 13:33 |
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| BeanZhang | would Pengfei add some? | 13:34 |
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| BeanZhang | i remember the hardware switches have be configured as bypass | 13:34 |
| BeanZhang | trunk mode | 13:35 |
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| Pengfei | our enviroment has some other services so it cannot be set of bypass ....TT | 13:35 |
| zhiyuan | If the two OpenStacks are in different bare metal machines, yes, hardware configuration is needed. But I start the two virtual machines running OpenStack in the same machine, so I only need to configure vcenter swtich | 13:35 |
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| zhiyuan | s/swtich/switch | 13:35 |
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| zhiyuan | the two virtual machines are connected by a software switch | 13:36 |
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| joehuang | I think we can discuss this in M-L or tricircle channel, it's a little bit late now | 13:36 |
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| BeanZhang | deploy all the virtual machines of nested openstack in one compute node is a smart method | 13:37 |
| joehuang | so Pengfei and Bin can try one bare matel to see if it works | 13:37 |
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| BeanZhang | ok | 13:37 |
| Pengfei | nice! | 13:37 |
| joehuang | good | 13:37 |
| joehuang | So happy new year to all of you | 13:38 |
| zhiyuan | just to mention that the test result has been sent, please check :) | 13:38 |
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| BeanZhang | Happy New Year!~ | 13:38 |
| zhiyuan | happy new year :) | 13:38 |
| joehuang | thanks for the attending, see you next year | 13:38 |
| Pengfei | Happy new Monkey year! | 13:38 |
| joehuang | :) | 13:38 |
| joehuang | great work zhiyuan | 13:38 |
| joehuang | #endmeeting | 13:38 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 3 13:38:58 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:39 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-02-03-13.01.html | 13:39 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-02-03-13.01.txt | 13:39 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-02-03-13.01.log.html | 13:39 |
| joehuang | byebye | 13:39 |
| zhiyuan | bye | 13:39 |
| Yipei | hi joe, i still have a question | 13:39 |
| Pengfei | bye! | 13:39 |
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| joehuang | please | 13:39 |
| Yipei | i am interested in task 5 in phase 3, how can i get started? i can prepare for it during the vacation | 13:39 |
| Yipei | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TricircleToDo | 13:39 |
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| joehuang | you can write/test source code locally, and then submit a patch | 13:41 |
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| BeanZhang | I just disconnected, bye~ | 13:42 |
| joehuang | have you tried to submit a patch before? | 13:42 |
| Yipei | no | 13:42 |
| joehuang | or you can start from a small bug, to be family with the patch submition | 13:42 |
| joehuang | Hi, Bean, bye | 13:43 |
| Yipei | ok, i see | 13:43 |
| zhiyuan | here is a useful guide: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html | 13:43 |
| joehuang | here you can following the instruction: http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/developers.html | 13:43 |
| joehuang | zhiyuan, you are faster than me | 13:44 |
| Yipei | ok, got it. i plan to verify the solution is correct and prepare for the task 5 | 13:44 |
| zhiyuan | yeah~ :) | 13:44 |
| Yipei | i think i should fix the bug first | 13:44 |
| joehuang | But it would be good for you to write and test code locally | 13:44 |
| joehuang | yes | 13:44 |
| Yipei | ok, i will try | 13:44 |
| joehuang | thank you yipei, don't worry, we can help you | 13:45 |
| Yipei | ok, thank you | 13:45 |
| joehuang | Ok, see you | 13:45 |
| Yipei | see you, joe | 13:45 |
| joehuang | zhiyuan, see you | 13:45 |
| Yipei | happy new year | 13:45 |
| Yipei | bye, zhiyuan | 13:46 |
| zhiyuan | see you, have a nice vacation! | 13:46 |
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| Sam-I-Am | anyone here for the docs meeting? | 14:05 |
| katomo | o/ | 14:05 |
| katomo | else? | 14:06 |
| Sam-I-Am | looks quiet | 14:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ill give it a few minutes | 14:06 |
| elmiko | o/ | 14:06 |
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| Sam-I-Am | guess we'll start | 14:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | #startmeeting docteam | 14:07 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 3 14:07:26 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Sam-I-Am. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:07 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:07 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: docteam)" | 14:07 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'docteam' | 14:07 |
| Sam-I-Am | #topic previous action items | 14:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | looks like nothing here | 14:08 |
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| Sam-I-Am | next thing... | 14:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | #topic specs | 14:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | we have some specs that need review... | 14:09 |
| Sam-I-Am | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/docs-specs,n,z | 14:09 |
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| Sam-I-Am | the main one is the install guide for mitaka | 14:10 |
| Sam-I-Am | #topic specialty teams | 14:10 |
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| Sam-I-Am | anyone here from any of the specialty teams to provide updates? | 14:11 |
| elmiko | what are the specialty teams? | 14:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | they work on particular guides usually | 14:11 |
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| Sam-I-Am | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/DocTeamMeeting | 14:11 |
| Sam-I-Am | you can see them in the agenda | 14:11 |
| elmiko | ah, nice. thanks! | 14:11 |
| elmiko | and, no updates from the security guide | 14:12 |
| katomo | Ops/Arch team is discussing how we revise ops guide. | 14:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok, thanks | 14:12 |
| katomo | ops team will discuss it at Austin Summit. | 14:12 |
| Sam-I-Am | i'm on the install and networking guide teams - not much here either. trying to work through mitaka updates for both guides. | 14:13 |
| katomo | okay | 14:13 |
| Sam-I-Am | thats it for the main agenda | 14:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | #topic open discussion | 14:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | anyone have anything? | 14:14 |
| elmiko | just a question | 14:14 |
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| Sam-I-Am | ok | 14:14 |
| elmiko | do we have resources to guide in the creation of a pdf from rst sources? | 14:14 |
| katomo | nothing from me | 14:14 |
| Sam-I-Am | nope, no one has worked on that | 14:15 |
| elmiko | ok, thanks | 14:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | it would be nice if someone could make it work again | 14:15 |
| elmiko | we're working through publishing another security guide and i know that sicarie has been looking into this, just thought i'd ask | 14:15 |
| katomo | need volunteer | 14:15 |
| elmiko | +1 | 14:15 |
| Sam-I-Am | we're pretty low on resources as is :/ | 14:16 |
| Sam-I-Am | as you can tell from the attendance levels here :/ | 14:16 |
| elmiko | yea, understandable | 14:16 |
| elmiko | well, if we get it worked out i'll talk with him about the possibility of generating something | 14:16 |
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| elmiko | s/if/when/ ;) | 14:17 |
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| elmiko | that was all i had | 14:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | ok | 14:17 |
| katomo | thanks | 14:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | i think we're done here, thanks for attending | 14:17 |
| elmiko | thanks Sam-I-Am | 14:17 |
| Sam-I-Am | #endmeeting | 14:17 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 3 14:17:57 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:17 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2016/docteam.2016-02-03-14.07.html | 14:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2016/docteam.2016-02-03-14.07.txt | 14:18 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2016/docteam.2016-02-03-14.07.log.html | 14:18 |
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| katomo | thanks, Sam-I-Am, elmiko | 14:18 |
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| elmiko | o/ | 14:18 |
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| SotK | anyone here for the storyboard meeting? | 15:00 |
| Zara | o/ | 15:00 |
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| SotK | #startmeeting storyboard | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 3 15:01:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SotK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 15:01 |
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| SotK | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard Agenda | 15:01 |
| SotK | I don't think we have any announcements or urgent items, anyone disagree? | 15:02 |
| Zara | nope | 15:02 |
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| SotK | #topic In Progress Work | 15:03 |
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| SotK | #info SotK has finished the boards/worklists speedups | 15:04 |
| SotK | I'm now planning out how to handle due dates | 15:04 |
| SotK | and starting to implement that | 15:04 |
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| Zara | \o/ | 15:04 |
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| SotK | Oh, I also made a hacky "live updating" kanban which worked by polling the API | 15:05 |
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| Zara | hehehehe | 15:05 |
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| SotK | it was kind of neat, but a proper implementation should do something other than polling | 15:05 |
| Zara | yeah, it was surprisingly decent for two people | 15:05 |
| Zara | but idk how it would deal with lots more users | 15:05 |
| Zara | and also it crashed both our computers | 15:06 |
| Zara | still. | 15:06 |
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| SotK | we should do something using websockets for it I think, but its not really close to being a priority at the moment :) | 15:06 |
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| Zara__ | ugh, our irc was down | 15:09 |
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| Zara__ | and I'd just got onto this server instead | 15:09 |
| Zara | yeah | 15:09 |
| Zara | adding, deletion, moving, editing all seemed to work without errors | 15:09 |
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| Zara | I'd suggest moving it up the priority list to right after due dates/deadlines, actually | 15:10 |
| Zara | but it depends on the amount of work | 15:10 |
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| Zara | it seemed a lot quicker to hack something up than we'd expected | 15:11 |
| SotK | yeah, doing something properly (ie with websockets) is going to be a lot of work I think | 15:11 |
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| Zara | :) | 15:12 |
| Zara | #info Zara has patched search to use tags as a filter | 15:13 |
| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274723/ | 15:13 |
| SotK | \o/ | 15:13 |
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| Zara | so yeah, review if you want it! :P | 15:13 |
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| Zara | I'd like to get it merged before the infra-cloud sprint, since I was originally asked about it in relation to that | 15:14 |
| Zara | (I have also tested it with the tag 'infra-cloud' and it seemed to work :)) | 15:14 |
| Zara | In other news, I spent yesterday debugging something that seems to have been a problem since... last March | 15:15 |
| Zara | TimelineEvents haven't been posting properly | 15:15 |
| Zara | I'm relatively sure the bug was introduced with this patch | 15:16 |
| Zara | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/155751/ | 15:16 |
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| Zara | so if anyone has any idea what might be happening, please let us know! :) (I spent most of yesterday tracing the patch responsible, so I haven't looked closely at it yet) | 15:16 |
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| Zara | #info Zara has made some progress investigating bugs in Timeline Events, and thinks she has found the patch where the bugs were introduced | 15:18 |
| SotK | any other in progress work? | 15:18 |
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| Zara | I don't think so | 15:18 |
| SotK | #topic infra config for emails | 15:19 |
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| SotK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270331/ | 15:19 |
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| Zara | yeah, we're waiting for this; I'm not sure how long we should wait before we prod people | 15:20 |
| Zara | I don't want to annoy everyone :P | 15:20 |
| * SotK doesn't really know anything about configuring exim, so is no help to fixing it up either | 15:20 | |
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| Zara | :( | 15:21 |
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| Zara | I'm a bit worried that we'll discover there are still some problems that we *could* fix, which we could have fixed earlier had we known. and also that it'll just get trapped in backlog. | 15:22 |
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| SotK | I guess we can chase it up at the end of this week if its still stuck? | 15:22 |
| Zara | I've seen comments on storyboard to the effect of 'test, test comment', and I really hope those users weren't trying to test emails. xD | 15:22 |
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| Zara | okay, suits me | 15:23 |
| SotK | ok then :) | 15:24 |
| SotK | anything else to discuss about this? | 15:24 |
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| Zara | it's not urgent for me because I use a different workflow for notifications, so the main people it affects are our users... so they're the people who should prod infra. | 15:25 |
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| Zara | I will still prod, but it's not a priority for me in the same way. | 15:25 |
| Zara | so general PSA there. that's all. | 15:26 |
| SotK | #topic Open Discussion | 15:26 |
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| Zara | I should chase a few loose ends! | 15:28 |
| Zara | so... | 15:29 |
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| Zara | pedroalvarez: have you had a chance to investigate the gerrit plugin at all? | 15:30 |
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| Zara | Krotscheck: any progress with the dreaded 401, pt2? (or is your life consumed by wheel mirrors atm?) | 15:31 |
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| Zara | (it'd also be greeeeeeeeeeat if irc would stop lagging for me) | 15:31 |
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| Zara | I'll leave those up there but in the meantime will assume everyone has been too busy, haha. xD | 15:34 |
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| Zara | other than that... | 15:35 |
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| Zara | well, I'm a bit concerned that I don't have enough theory to understand the issue I'm debugging atm. | 15:35 |
| Zara | so I may end up pinging everyone and their grandmother, you've been warned. | 15:36 |
| SotK | :D | 15:36 |
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| Zara | are there any other loose ends we need to tie up (or, er... check on? eh.) | 15:37 |
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| SotK | oh, the worker mystery | 15:37 |
| Zara | oh yeah! | 15:37 |
| Zara | you were looking at that! | 15:37 |
| SotK | I haven't managed to reproduce it today | 15:37 |
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| SotK | I did a couple of times yesterday, but it was very intermittent and seemingly random | 15:38 |
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| SotK | I'll continue trying to reproduce it, but if it carries on being elusive it could be worth killing the extraneous processes manually on storyboard.o.o so that it has some free memory at least in the short-term | 15:40 |
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| Zara | ugh my computer died | 15:42 |
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| Zara | oh yeah | 15:43 |
| Zara | #info jeblair patched things so that storyboard's now on cacti \o/ | 15:43 |
| Zara | #link http://cacti.openstack.org/cacti/graph_view.php?action=tree&tree_id=1&leaf_id=191 | 15:43 |
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| Zara | (I think the used memory is visible on the second page) | 15:45 |
| Zara | yeah, I'd like to kill them, too | 15:45 |
| Zara | though I can see that people could be wary that could lead to us never getting round to fixing it | 15:45 |
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| Zara | testing things and narrowing down weird causes is normally my area but this is puppety... | 15:47 |
| SotK | well, if I don't get anywhere by the end of the week I'll mention it to infra | 15:47 |
| Zara | okay | 15:47 |
| Zara | so am I right in thinking that the priority for boards/worklists after deadlines will be automatic boards/worklists? | 15:48 |
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| Zara | sorry that's a horrible sentence | 15:49 |
| SotK | :D | 15:49 |
| SotK | I think so, yes | 15:49 |
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| Zara | cool, just making sure I'm not wandering off onto a different planet. | 15:50 |
| SotK | heh :D | 15:51 |
| Zara | oh yeah, task metadata! | 15:52 |
| Zara | links in tasks | 15:52 |
| Zara | this keeps bouncing around because whether or not i's related to boards & worklists changes | 15:52 |
| Zara | I believe it's still in my backlog, for me to get to after I debug this thing | 15:53 |
| Zara | (s/i's/it's) | 15:53 |
| Zara | if that sounds right, don't think there's anything left | 15:53 |
| SotK | sounds right to me | 15:54 |
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| Zara | (task metadata was the other thing I wanted to merge before the infra-cloud sprint, because it was the other thing anteaya asked about specifically. it's looking like it may be delayed... but at least tags are in review, I guess) | 15:54 |
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| Zara | ok that's all | 15:55 |
| SotK | \o/ | 15:55 |
| SotK | in that case..... | 15:56 |
| SotK | ... | 15:56 |
| SotK | . | 15:56 |
| SotK | #endmeeting | 15:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:56 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 3 15:56:11 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:56 |
| SotK | thanks Zara! | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-02-03-15.01.html | 15:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-02-03-15.01.txt | 15:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-02-03-15.01.log.html | 15:56 |
| Zara | thanks SotK! | 15:56 |
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| smcginnis | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 3 16:00:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| thingee | o/ | 16:00 |
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| smcginnis | Courtesy ping: | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind vincent_hou kmartin patrickeast sheel dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr | 16:00 |
| e0ne | hi | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | Howdy! | 16:00 |
| erlon | hey! | 16:00 |
| patrickeast | hey | 16:00 |
| eharney | hey | 16:00 |
| kurtmartin | hello | 16:00 |
| xyang1 | hi | 16:00 |
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| adrianofr | hi | 16:00 |
| tbarron | hi | 16:00 |
| jgriffith_away | 0/ | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Hey everyone! | 16:00 |
| jgregor | Hello! | 16:00 |
| DuncanT | Hi | 16:00 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Announcements | 16:00 |
| ankit | hi | 16:00 |
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| yuriy_n17 | Hi! | 16:00 |
| scottda | Hi | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Realy quick announcements since we just had the midcycle. Then we can move one. | 16:01 |
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| smcginnis | Thanks everyone who participated last week. I think it went well. | 16:01 |
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| diablo_rojo | Hello :) | 16:01 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: +1 | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | And special thanks to hemna for the steaming and akerr for sitting in the corner all week to run local video. :) | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | *streaming | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | hemna: The amount of steaming was at a minimum. :P | 16:02 |
| xyang1 | :) | 16:02 |
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| erlon | smcginnis: did he held the camera in the head? | 16:02 |
| flip214 | hi | 16:02 |
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| smcginnis | #info Cinder - 502 open bugs, Python-cinderclient - 42 open bugs, OS-Brick - 13 open bugs | 16:02 |
| scottda | And thanks to NetApp | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | erlon: All over the place. | 16:02 |
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| smcginnis | scottda: Yes! | 16:02 |
| erlon | lol | 16:02 |
| erlon | nice | 16:02 |
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| smcginnis | Thanks NetApp for hosting and tim for coordinating! | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Yes, it was good the steaming was at a minimum! | 16:03 |
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| smcginnis | Hehe | 16:03 |
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| smcginnis | OK, no major announcements yet. Please take time to do reviews and such. Let's move on. | 16:03 |
| akerr | i'll take all the credit even though tim did all the planning | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | akerr: ;) | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | #topic Replication v2.1 | 16:04 |
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| jgriffith | dum-dum-duuuuuu | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | So if folks didn't get a chance to view the videos or read the notes... | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | We decided to make a change in replication before it's too late. | 16:04 |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: Want to say a few words about it? ;) | 16:04 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: sure | 16:05 |
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| jgriffith | smcginnis: so without a long background.... let's just say that we have a tendency to let scope creep kill us | 16:05 |
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| smcginnis | #link https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/cinder-specs/specs/mitaka/cheesecake.html New spec | 16:05 |
| jgriffith | last week we took a look again at use cases, and let that be the definition | 16:05 |
| jgriffith | So what we cam up with is a single DR use case | 16:06 |
| jgriffith | Replication is set up on a backend.. no surprise there | 16:06 |
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| jgriffith | but fail-over is a backend-wide thing | 16:06 |
| jgriffith | NOT volume based | 16:06 |
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| smcginnis | We really wanted to get back to a crawl, walk, run approach instead of over engineering right off the bat. | 16:06 |
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| jgriffith | So... if for example you have a backend and you have replication enabled and set up | 16:06 |
| jgriffith | You create volumes on said backend, you can have type==replicated and just regular volumes | 16:07 |
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| jgriffith | if/when the DC catches fire and the admin issues a failover command, the backend driver is now pointed to the secondary device | 16:07 |
| jgriffith | if volumes were replicated, cool.. you can stil access them. if not, that's life | 16:07 |
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| jgriffith | This is more in line with actual real-worl use cases of replication | 16:08 |
| jgriffith | make sense? | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | It at least hits one of the primary use cases. | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | I think we can expand over time to address more. | 16:08 |
| Swanson | hello | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith: Sounds good tome. | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | But at least we can hit one use case well rather than several not well. | 16:08 |
| patrickeast | jgriffith: got any code yet? :D | 16:08 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: yes | 16:09 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: I'll put a WIP up here shortly | 16:09 |
| * patrickeast cheers | 16:09 | |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: Thanks for your work on the spec and initial code. | 16:09 |
| jgriffith | patrickeast: didn't get as far as I'd hoped to be by now... but at least it's a start | 16:09 |
| fernnest_ | jgriffith, is the idea that the replica is basically offline (no read-only) just receiving updates for the eventual fire. | 16:09 |
| erlon | jgriffith: admin != tenant right? | 16:09 |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: I think that's a huge help getting something out there, even just as a WIP for now. | 16:09 |
| jgriffith | fernnest_: until a fail-over event yes... assuming I understand your question correctly | 16:09 |
| patrickeast | smcginnis: +1 | 16:09 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis: ack | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | fernnest_: Yes. Just a copy of the data off to another backend. | 16:10 |
| fernnest_ | jgriffith, I'm sure you do ;) | 16:10 |
| diablo_rojo | erlon: Correct, admin != tenant | 16:10 |
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| smcginnis | fernnest_: Then it is basically read only from the control plane perspective other than attach/detach. | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | IO plane is read write. | 16:11 |
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| jungleboyj | erlon: Right, that is one of the big things to remember in this approach is that it is all admin facing at this point. | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | So watch for the code and please review and comment. Just let's please not nit pick this into Newton. | 16:11 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: +1000 | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | This can get fixed up and evolve over time to what we need. But we need a good simple starting point to actually get there. | 16:12 |
| erlon | jungleboyj: makes sense, it wouldnt make sense to allow the tenant have control over that IMO | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Thanks. Anything more to say about it? I know you have a conflict right now. | 16:12 |
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| jgriffith | Just questions if folks have them | 16:13 |
| jgriffith | I'll be back in an hour or so | 16:13 |
| jgriffith | hit me up on IRC | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | erlon: That is planned for future evolution. | 16:13 |
| jgriffith | I'm pushing up some code right now | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | Nice! | 16:13 |
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| smcginnis | OK, if no one has any immediate questions let's move on. Hit up jgriffith later if questions do come up. | 16:14 |
| kurtmartin | jgriffith, thanks | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | #topic Multiple Management IP Address Support Proposal | 16:14 |
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| jgriffith | crap.. rebase errors | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Doh! :) | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Hey | 16:14 |
| erlon | jungleboyj: hmmm, I can' t imagine any situation where something like a disaster happen and the admin didn't have to interfere | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Hey. | 16:14 |
| jgriffith | DOHHH the rpc version change merged into object | 16:14 |
| jgriffith | k... gimmie just like 5 minutes | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: No rush. | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Well, no huge rush. :) | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | So, we have had a request for the storwize_svc driver to mitigate a Single Point of Failure problem on the management IP. | 16:15 |
| jgriffith | haha | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: That's that SDS controller, right? | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | :P | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: :-p | 16:15 |
| jungleboyj | Since it is based upon SANDriver we will probably have to make changes there to make this happen. | 16:16 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: So the issue is you need to provide multiple management IPs? | 16:16 |
| jungleboyj | Wanted to bring it up here to see if anyone else who is based off that class is concerned with us proposing this for Newton. | 16:17 |
| patrickeast | why not just set up svc stuff behind like haproxy or something with a vip? | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, not clear why this is an issue, but I'm sure there's more to it. | 16:17 |
| eharney | can you use a DNS entry which points to your multiple IPs and just configure cinder to talk to that? | 16:17 |
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| jungleboyj | Wonder if anyone else has need for it? | 16:17 |
| eharney | i've never understood why we insist it's an "IP" in configuration rather than a generic host anyway | 16:17 |
| e0ne | eharney: good question | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | eharney: +1 | 16:18 |
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| jungleboyj | So, the SVC allows multiple management IPs on the SVC box. | 16:18 |
| DuncanT | eharney: DNS will round robin to dead IPs though, right? | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: If you want to use multiple, can't you just document to set san_ip to something like a comma separated list and have you're driver handle parsing that out? | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: Yeah | 16:18 |
| eharney | DuncanT: sure, but maybe that works with this client | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | Can you have one DNS name that points to multiple IPs? | 16:18 |
| eharney | yes | 16:19 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: IMO, it would be good to get operators feedback for it | 16:19 |
| DuncanT | jungleboyj: You certainly can | 16:19 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: yes | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Yes, but DuncanT is right, it will respond with round robin through the addresses but no awareness of whether it is up or not. | 16:19 |
| DuncanT | jungleboyj: requiring DNS for undercloud infra is a pain in the ass though | 16:19 |
| patrickeast | is there a spec/code or something? what is the propsed change? | 16:19 |
| eharney | i'm fine with supporting a list of addresses... just make them hosts/addresses and not "IPs" | 16:19 |
| DuncanT | jungleboyj: comma separated list parsed in the driver seems totally reasonable to me | 16:19 |
| DuncanT | eharney: +1 | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | DuncanT: I agree that I would rather not tell them to go handle it with DNS. | 16:20 |
| kurtmartin | jungleboyj, I need to check but I believe the LeftHand would support a list | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | DuncanT: smcginnis That seems like a reasonable and less invasive fix. | 16:20 |
| DuncanT | DNS names being possible seems like a good thing to have | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | And if it's a comma separated list (whether hostnames or IPs) that wouldn't require any other changes other than the consuming driver, right? | 16:20 |
| e0ne | DuncanT: +1 | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | kurtmartin: That would be good to know as far as a precedent is concerned. | 16:20 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: OK, good for now? | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Yep, that was why I wanted to bring it up here. Figured you smart people would have already tackled it or have a good idea. | 16:22 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: I am good. Thank you DuncanT eharney smcginnis | 16:22 |
| eharney | the glusterfs driver also has this concept of multiple addresses for the same backend, but it's configured differently. this sounds good to me | 16:22 |
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| hemna | mornin | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | OK, thanks. | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | #topic Returning request ID to caller | 16:23 |
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| smcginnis | ankit: I changed the agenda item a little. | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | ankit: Did you have something to discuss on this? | 16:23 |
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| ankit | yes I have seen that, thanks | 16:23 |
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| ankit | I request the cores to review return-request-id patches so that we can make it in Mitaka-3 | 16:23 |
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| ankit | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/python-cinderclient+branch:master+topic:bp/return-request-id-to-caller | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | ankit: The meeting isn't a place to just ask for reveiws, so this would be better to just ping in channel. | 16:24 |
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| smcginnis | ankit: Is there something to discuss? | 16:24 |
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| ankit | I am just looking for the feedback on these patches | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | ankit: OK, then if there isn't anything else I'll move on. | 16:25 |
| ankit | as it under review for long | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | #topic Moving forward with nested quotas | 16:25 |
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| ankit | sure, thank you | 16:25 |
| * DuncanT is happy with them, I was hoping to see a few +1s though in case I missed something | 16:25 | |
| smcginnis | mc_nair: Hey, you're up. | 16:25 |
| mc_nair | hey | 16:25 |
| mc_nair | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275734/ - First pass to get subset of nested quotas working, and disable the rest (i.e. -1 child limits) | 16:25 |
| mc_nair | however, this has implications to existing deployments | 16:25 |
| mc_nair | it requires Keystone fix https://review.openstack.org/#/c/270057/ if using Keystone v3 before doing anything with quotas (including create volume) | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275734/ | 16:26 |
| mc_nair | which is why it's failing so spectacularly on Tempest tests currently | 16:26 |
| mc_nair | also it doesn't cleanup any messed up "allocated" values in DB for quotas of existing deployments which used NestedQuotas with -1 child limits | 16:26 |
| DuncanT | mc_nair: Are there any tests for this? I think part of the problem last time was lack of (whitebox / functional) tests | 16:26 |
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| smcginnis | mc_nair: You should probably put a "Depends-On" line in the commit. | 16:26 |
| mc_nair | smcginnis: will do | 16:26 |
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| mc_nair | DuncanT: I added more coverage, and will add more before remove WIP | 16:27 |
| mc_nair | main question for now is - how do we want to deal with the fact that this would affect existing deployments? | 16:27 |
| DuncanT | mc_nair: Can you say exactly what the impact is? | 16:27 |
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| smcginnis | mc_nair: So existing deployments are broken right now for nested quotas, correct? | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | mc_nair: Does this make that any worse? | 16:28 |
| mc_nair | yea, basically if you were to accept this patch you wouldn't be able to mange quotas or create volumes (because that affects quotas) if you're using Keystone v3 until you have that change to Keystone's policy.json | 16:28 |
| mc_nair | and I don't see a way around that | 16:28 |
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| mc_nair | smcginnis: correct. This also does not fix any problems in existing deployments if they're DB has messed up "allocated" values because -1 limits on child projects was not previously disallowed | 16:29 |
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| mc_nair | smcginnis: god I hope it doesn't make things worse ;) | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | mc_nair: ;) | 16:29 |
| mc_nair | should make things better moving forward | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | mc_nair: There's a bug out there for this, right? | 16:30 |
| mc_nair | just not a silver bullet by any means | 16:30 |
| e0ne | mc_nair: can we implement DB migration for it? | 16:30 |
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| mc_nair | e0ne: it's *possible* to do something where we re-calculate the allocated values based on project hierarchies, but currently there's no way to get *entire* project hierarchy from Keystone (unless you're a cloud admin user) | 16:31 |
| jungleboyj | Sounds like, at a minimum, we will need a really good release note to go with this. | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, release note will help somewhat. | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | I would also like to see a bug files. | 16:32 |
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| smcginnis | *filed | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | Then we can mark that as also affecting Liberty. | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | And add notes to the bug explaining what to do. | 16:32 |
| mc_nair | e0ne: I'm not articulating it well - but basically I think you *could* rectify this in some way using the project hierarchies, but we'd need someway to get the entire project hierarch (can follow up on this afterwards) | 16:32 |
| mc_nair | smcginnis: will do - there's a few out there already I can link | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | Then if it is resolved in Mitaka, at least the Liberty part can still indicate the problem existed there. | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | mc_nair: OK, perfect. | 16:32 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Yeah, having a bug with the symptoms and steps to correct. Similar info in the release note. | 16:33 |
| mc_nair | but that's my next question - do we mark this as broken in any way for current Liberty? | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | mc_nair: Yes, I think so. | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | That's probably the best we can do. | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | Any other ideas? | 16:33 |
| e0ne | we have to add good info in release notes for it and do not breack existing deployments after upgrade | 16:33 |
| DuncanT | mc_nair: Maybe a 'cinder-manage fix-quotas' that requires keystone admin creds? | 16:33 |
| mc_nair | DuncanT: that's a possibility. I'd like to get some auto-fix in place, but I think it will complicate the patch significantly also | 16:34 |
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| mc_nair | I'll work on that also though | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | Existing deployments are already broken. So as long as it doesn't make it any worse... | 16:35 |
| mc_nair | anyway, I can follow up on this in the Cinder channel, was just trying to get a path forward on this... two final quick questions | 16:35 |
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| mc_nair | 1. Even with the some cinder-manage fix-quotas command, once this patch is accepted the admin would need to get the new Keystone policy.json to get *even create volume* to work if they're using v3... is that acceptable? | 16:36 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: agree, but we have to not break them more | 16:36 |
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| mc_nair | I don't know a way around it with the current approach, because otherwise we'd end up borking quotas again if we silently ignore the fact we can't grab project hierarchy | 16:36 |
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| e0ne | mc_nair: IMO, it's OK it this policy.json will be shipped with a new keystone | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | mc_nair: Create volume with nested quotas? Or do you mean this impacts any volume creation? | 16:37 |
| DuncanT | mc_nair: Would that be true even if you have no nested quotas? | 16:37 |
| mc_nair | would be true if you're using Keystone v3 | 16:37 |
| scottda | I think quota-update in Liberty is broken without the policy.json fix : https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1518513 | 16:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1518513 in Cinder "Quota update call fails in Liberty" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Dan Nguyen (daniel-a-nguyen) | 16:37 |
| mc_nair | that's the big issue with the current design - it's not opt-in for Nested Quotas... once you get v3 you're using nested quotas | 16:38 |
| mc_nair | and we can't tell if your quotas are nested if we cant grab the project hierarchy | 16:38 |
| smcginnis | :/ | 16:38 |
| mc_nair | which is my next point | 16:38 |
| mc_nair | Started prototyping in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274825/ | 16:38 |
| DuncanT | Breaking cinder until you upgrade keystone is rather bad | 16:39 |
| mc_nair | which I think would be nice to longer term move to - basically would be separate driver where you choose to use NestedQuotas | 16:39 |
| mc_nair | DuncanT: yea :/ the other option is to add some config basically saying "I don't care about nested quotas" which would ignore any of the nested quotas stuff | 16:39 |
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| mc_nair | but you better not be creating hierarchical projects and ask for nested quotas later because it will already be messed up | 16:40 |
| mc_nair | again, not well articulated, but hopefully somewhat gets the point across | 16:40 |
| DuncanT | mc_nair: I guess we can all look at the patch and see if we can make suggestions. | 16:40 |
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| smcginnis | Yeah, I've got a bad feeling about this. | 16:41 |
| DuncanT | mc_nair: I've suggested backing nested quotas out completely, but that breaks existing deployments too so isn't really any better | 16:41 |
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| mc_nair | smcginnis: that's what I aim foor | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:41 |
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| mc_nair | DuncanT: yea, we're sort of in a bad place currently | 16:42 |
| mc_nair | anyway, I think I've rambled enough, I can pick this up on the Cinder channel afterwards and if people could look at the approaches and ping me with questions / suggestions that'd be perfect | 16:42 |
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| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274825/ | 16:42 |
| smcginnis | Please, the more eyes on this the better. | 16:43 |
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| smcginnis | This is sounding pretty scary right now. | 16:43 |
| mc_nair | don't be afraid! | 16:43 |
| mc_nair | j/k... you probably be | 16:43 |
| mc_nair | *should be | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | #topic Open Discussion | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:43 |
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| smcginnis | Any other topics? Or we can keep talking about nested quotas. | 16:44 |
| diablo_rojo | I have three cross project reviews that I want to draw attention to | 16:44 |
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| smcginnis | diablo_rojo: Oh, great. Yeah, go ahead. | 16:45 |
| diablo_rojo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226157/ Backwards compatibility for libraries and clients | 16:45 |
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| diablo_rojo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245629/ Common Policy Scenario more complex than admin or not admin | 16:45 |
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| diablo_rojo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/257809/ Instances auto evacuation | 16:45 |
| jungleboyj | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/245629/ | 16:45 |
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| jungleboyj | Argh, copy paste fail. | 16:46 |
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| diablo_rojo | If I could get some eyes on those^^ we are planning to discuss them in our next wmeeting | 16:46 |
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| DuncanT | diablo_rojo: I've been trying to pretend the first one doesn't exist, since it's a mix of good ideas and bad. I'll actually write a review now though | 16:47 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: I agree. | 16:47 |
| flip214 | smcginnis: hemna: DuncanT: et.al: thanks for the help last week (DRBD & Nova). Much appreciated! | 16:47 |
| smcginnis | Sounds great in theory. | 16:47 |
| diablo_rojo | DuncanT: That would be wonderful :) | 16:47 |
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| smcginnis | flip214: Yeah, don't know if we were much help, but at least it got brought up. Hopefully that helps move it forward. | 16:48 |
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| smcginnis | Anything else? | 16:48 |
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| DuncanT | Keeping back compatability is great. Stable branch clients are still really useful though - knowing which client features are supported by which release is otehrwise painful in the extreme | 16:48 |
| smcginnis | DuncanT: I would think especially for packagers. | 16:49 |
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| smcginnis | OK, thanks everyone. I think that's all for today. | 16:50 |
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| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 16:50 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 16:50 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 3 16:50:43 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-02-03-16.00.html | 16:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-02-03-16.00.txt | 16:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-02-03-16.00.log.html | 16:50 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks everyone! | 16:50 |
| diablo_rojo | DuncanT: Yeah whenever you get a sec to post a review explaining what you see as good and bad that would be wonderful :) | 16:51 |
| sheel_ | DuncanT: I wanted to discuss on https://review.openstack.org/272232 | 16:51 |
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| DuncanT | sheel: sure | 16:51 |
| sheel_ | DUncanT plz find some spare time | 16:52 |
| DuncanT | sheel: Shall we move to the cinder channel though? | 16:52 |
| DuncanT | sheel: I'm looking right now | 16:52 |
| sheel_ | i ll ping you in 5 min on cinder | 16:52 |
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| sheel_ | Ok thnx, catch u in 5 min, thnx | 16:52 |
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| jlvillal | #startmeeting ironic_qa | 17:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 3 17:01:10 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jlvillal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ironic_qa)" | 17:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ironic_qa' | 17:01 |
| thingee | o/ | 17:01 |
| cdearborn | \o | 17:01 |
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| mjturek1 | o/ | 17:01 |
| vdrok | o/ | 17:01 |
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| rpioso | o/ | 17:01 |
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| jlvillal | Hello everyone. As usual the agenda is here: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-QA | 17:02 |
| krtaylor | o/ | 17:02 |
| maurosr | \p | 17:02 |
| jlvillal | #topic Announcements | 17:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: ironic_qa)" | 17:02 | |
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| jlvillal | So I think the gate is working now and seems to be doing well. | 17:03 |
| jlvillal | I haven't checked it out this morning. But yesterday things seemed good. | 17:03 |
| jlvillal | #info The gate appears to be much better now and working normally. | 17:03 |
| jlvillal | I don't have any other announcements | 17:03 |
| jlvillal | Moving on | 17:04 |
| jlvillal | #topic Grenade testing | 17:04 |
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| jlvillal | #info jlvillal got tied up with other work related items and was not able to spend much time on it over the last week :( | 17:04 |
| devananda | o/ | 17:04 |
| jlvillal | Sorry about that. I have been interrupted by other work for a lot of the last week. | 17:05 |
| jlvillal | I should be able to get back onto it full time this week. | 17:05 |
| jlvillal | If nothing else...moving on. | 17:05 |
| krtaylor | there is a lot of that going around | 17:05 |
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| jlvillal | :( | 17:05 |
| jlvillal | Darn employers! ;) | 17:05 |
| krtaylor | silly day job ... | 17:05 |
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| jlvillal | #topic Functional testing | 17:06 |
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| jlvillal | I don't think anyone is working on this at the moment. | 17:06 |
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| jlvillal | If you are please speak up :) | 17:06 |
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| jlvillal | #info No updates regarding functional testing. | 17:06 |
| jlvillal | Moving on | 17:06 |
| mjturek1 | jlvillal: our team has been meaning to | 17:06 |
| mjturek1 | but we've been sidetracked on other work | 17:06 |
| jlvillal | mjturek1: Great. Looking forward to it. | 17:06 |
| jlvillal | And understand on that. | 17:07 |
| jlvillal | See above :) | 17:07 |
| mjturek1 | thanks jlvillal :) | 17:07 |
| jlvillal | #topic 3rd Party CI (krtaylor) | 17:07 |
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| jlvillal | krtaylor: All yours. I'll drink some coffee now. | 17:07 |
| krtaylor | not much to report, due to downstream distractions :) | 17:07 |
| krtaylor | seems to be a common theme | 17:07 |
| thingee | o/ | 17:07 |
| jlvillal | #help | 17:08 |
| thingee | this seems to be a pretty accurate report that I double checked yesterday https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicCI | 17:08 |
| krtaylor | thingee, agreed, I was going to check that against the accounts also | 17:08 |
| jlvillal | Hmm. bot lies about #help command :( | 17:08 |
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| krtaylor | hehheh | 17:08 |
| jlvillal | #CI report at: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicCI | 17:08 |
| jlvillal | #info CI report at: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/IronicCI | 17:08 |
| thingee | krtaylor: so we have some drivers that aren't where there suppose to be | 17:09 |
| thingee | also volunteers for some of these non-vendor solutions haven't really popped up with anything | 17:09 |
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| jlvillal | #chair krtaylor | 17:09 |
| krtaylor | yeah, I am thinking so also | 17:09 |
| openstack | Current chairs: jlvillal krtaylor | 17:09 |
| jlvillal | krtaylor: I think you can do #info. Not sure if you couldn't before. | 17:09 |
| * jlvillal thinks anyone can #info, but isn't sure. | 17:10 | |
| krtaylor | thanks | 17:10 |
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| krtaylor | thingee, I did see Lucas email about the Staging Drivers project, so we have a place to move things | 17:10 |
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| thingee | krtaylor: sorry which? | 17:11 |
| krtaylor | its a project for drivers that are untested | 17:11 |
| devananda | thingee: I've had no traction yet getting something going here for IPMI testing | 17:11 |
| devananda | jroll: any on your end? | 17:12 |
| jroll | ohai | 17:12 |
| krtaylor | devananda, we will be, but not on x86 :) | 17:12 |
| devananda | krtaylor: right | 17:12 |
| thingee | devananda: anything I can help? infra has some help resources here as well. | 17:12 |
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| jlvillal | #info http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/085128.html | 17:12 |
| devananda | krtaylor: well - will you be testing ipmitool or pyghmi? | 17:12 |
| mjturek1 | ipmitool | 17:12 |
| krtaylor | ipmitool, initially | 17:12 |
| jroll | devananda: so I have a verbal commitment to hardware, I owe folks a network diagram | 17:12 |
| jlvillal | thingee: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-January/085128.html | 17:12 |
| devananda | krtaylor: oh - that's great | 17:12 |
| thingee | jlvillal: thanks | 17:12 |
| krtaylor | devananda, alongside all the other PowerKVM testing | 17:13 |
| devananda | that raises an interesting question, actually | 17:13 |
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| jroll | devananda: and that hardware is racked and online, so the slow part is done | 17:13 |
| devananda | where a single python driver (eg, agent_ipmitool) can be used against several types of hardware ... how do we want to track them upstream? | 17:13 |
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| krtaylor | yes, the old platform agnostic question | 17:14 |
| jroll | devananda: good question, and how fine-grained :) | 17:14 |
| devananda | jroll: great. and someone to do the care and feeding of the CI bots? | 17:14 |
| krtaylor | we have been simply saying it is on ppc64, as with our long-running nova testing | 17:14 |
| jroll | devananda: heh. hi. | 17:14 |
| devananda | jroll: ohhai. yea ... bad idea | 17:14 |
| jroll | devananda: I expect I can get more people helping though | 17:14 |
| devananda | you're already oversubscribed | 17:14 |
| jroll | yeah I know | 17:14 |
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| devananda | that's the main hold up on my end as well - I can get the hardware | 17:14 |
| * jroll will be chatting with folks | 17:15 | |
| jlvillal | Please #info anything of note :) | 17:15 |
| krtaylor | devananda, see http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/support-matrix.html | 17:16 |
| devananda | thingee: for the requirement that a hardware driver have a CI system, I think krtaylor's ipmitool testing against ppc64 would be sufficient to meet those criteria. yes? | 17:16 |
| krtaylor | I think we can list the platform architectures | 17:16 |
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| thingee | I'd recommend whatever is common for your users. Because that's ultimately going to be the well tested thing | 17:17 |
| krtaylor | it would be good to test both, I mean we would like to move on to IPA instead of using our bearmetal for ipmitool | 17:17 |
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| jroll | that makes sense to me, ipmi protocol doesn't differ between platforms afaik | 17:17 |
| jroll | shouldn't* | 17:17 |
| thingee | that's typically what we do for reference impl testing for other things in the gate | 17:17 |
| devananda | jroll: eehh.... shouldn't ;) | 17:17 |
| jroll | would be nice to throw something else at it, I'd love to see opencompute tested | 17:17 |
| devananda | krtaylor: nice chart. we should do a similar doc. | 17:17 |
| jroll | as it's sort of the baseline, IMO | 17:17 |
| jroll | not much fancy vendor stuff | 17:18 |
| devananda | also, that chart is wrong for ironic .... /me spins up a patch to nova | 17:18 |
| krtaylor | devananda, agreed | 17:18 |
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| krtaylor | so, as far as CI and driver milestones, does someone want to email the teams not updating their account info? or is that me :) | 17:19 |
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| devananda | krtaylor: I think that's you :) | 17:20 |
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| devananda | unless thingee wants to do that | 17:20 |
| krtaylor | hehheh, ok, I'll push some other stuff aside and get that done as soon as I can | 17:20 |
| devananda | might be a little more officialish to have the foundation say "hey folks, you're lagging" | 17:21 |
| thingee | devananda, krtaylor the communication is what I volunteered to do | 17:21 |
| devananda | great :) | 17:21 |
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| krtaylor | thingee, so much appreciated, how about I use the IronicCI etherpad to list the systems that have not registered, then we can keep that list current going forward | 17:22 |
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| thingee | krtaylor: yes, that seems to be up-to-date as I double checked it yesterday | 17:22 |
| krtaylor | thingee, against the thirdpartysystems page or the accounts page or both? | 17:23 |
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| thingee | I compared the account page with what's reported on the IronicCI etherpad. The etherpad is accurate. | 17:25 |
| thingee | but yes lets use the etherpad. | 17:25 |
| * thingee is in two meetings :) | 17:25 | |
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| krtaylor | ok, let me check against the systems page, that fulfills the infra requirement | 17:26 |
| krtaylor | #action krtaylor to verify third party dirver CI teams against the ThirdPartySystems wiki page | 17:26 |
| rajinir | we would like to hear if we full filled M release requirement ( Dell drac driver) | 17:26 |
| krtaylor | #action thingee to notify test teams that need to create and update their info | 17:27 |
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| krtaylor | rajinir, you work with cdearborn ? | 17:27 |
| rajinir | yes | 17:27 |
| krtaylor | yes, I looked at it last week, all looks good | 17:28 |
| rajinir | thanks | 17:28 |
| krtaylor | so I think we have a plan | 17:28 |
| krtaylor | anything else? | 17:28 |
| * jlvillal learns #help is not help from the bot but a 'Call for Help' to recruit people to help out.... | 17:28 | |
| krtaylor | then I'll turn it back to you jlvillal | 17:29 |
| jlvillal | Thanks krtaylor and everone else :) | 17:29 |
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| jlvillal | krtaylor: Was there anything that should be #info before we move on? | 17:30 |
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| jlvillal | Or are we good? | 17:30 |
| jlvillal | s/everone/everyone/ | 17:30 |
| krtaylor | I think we're good | 17:30 |
| jlvillal | Okay | 17:30 |
| jlvillal | moving on | 17:30 |
| jlvillal | #topic Open Discussion / General QA topics | 17:30 |
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| jlvillal | Anyone? | 17:31 |
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| * jroll thinks it's time for breakfast | 17:31 | |
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| jlvillal | :) | 17:31 |
| jlvillal | Okay, if nothing to discuss. | 17:32 |
| jlvillal | I will go ahead | 17:32 |
| jlvillal | and end | 17:32 |
| jlvillal | the | 17:32 |
| jlvillal | meeting | 17:32 |
| jlvillal | .... | 17:32 |
| jroll | thanks jlvillal :) | 17:32 |
| jlvillal | jroll: Thanks | 17:32 |
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| jlvillal | And thanks to everyone else! | 17:32 |
| jlvillal | #endmeeting | 17:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 3 17:32:52 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_qa/2016/ironic_qa.2016-02-03-17.01.html | 17:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_qa/2016/ironic_qa.2016-02-03-17.01.txt | 17:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ironic_qa/2016/ironic_qa.2016-02-03-17.01.log.html | 17:32 |
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| nmagnezi | xgerman, I have a question for the open discussion part :) | 20:15 |
| xgerman | sure | 20:15 |
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| notmyname | swift meeting time | 21:00 |
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| notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Feb 3 21:00:23 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
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| notmyname | good morning everyone. | 21:00 |
| notmyname | who'es here for the swift meeting? | 21:00 |
| mattoliverau | o/ | 21:00 |
| jrichli | yo | 21:01 |
| gmmaha | o/ | 21:01 |
| torgomatic | . | 21:01 |
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| sgundur | hi | 21:01 |
| kota_ | hi | 21:01 |
| minwoob | o/ | 21:01 |
| cutforth | o/ | 21:01 |
| m_kazuhiro | o/ | 21:01 |
| ho_away | o/ | 21:01 |
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| wbhuber | o/ | 21:01 |
| takashi | hi | 21:01 |
| pdardeau | o/ | 21:01 |
| cschwede | o/ | 21:01 |
| timburke | o/ | 21:01 |
| hseipp | Hi | 21:01 |
| akle | akle | 21:01 |
| notmyname | welcome | 21:01 |
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| notmyname | I'm currently visiting mattoliverau in australia | 21:01 |
| mattoliverau | \o/ | 21:01 |
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| notmyname | gives a very real perspective of all the different time zones we work in :-) | 21:02 |
| acoles | here | 21:02 |
| siva_krishnan | o/ | 21:02 |
| clayg | whoa | 21:02 |
| notmyname | so that being said, this week while I'm at a conference, I haven't kept up with IRC too well. | 21:02 |
| mattoliverau | +1 | 21:03 |
| notmyname | so let's get started on the agenda :-) | 21:03 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:03 |
| notmyname | #topic hackathon | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | in a few weeks we've got the hackathon in bristol | 21:03 |
| notmyname | I'm looking forward to seeing everyone | 21:03 |
| notmyname | jrichli: you put together an etherpad | 21:03 |
| notmyname | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-hackathon-feb-2016 | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | jrichli: thanks. please share about it | 21:04 |
| jrichli | yes - thought we could add topics and ideas similar to the last hackathon | 21:04 |
| jrichli | that's really about it :-) | 21:04 |
| notmyname | heh, ok :-) | 21:05 |
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| notmyname | I think it's great | 21:05 |
| mattoliverau | can i add topics :P | 21:05 |
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| jrichli | mattoliverau: please do! | 21:05 |
| notmyname | it's something we can use to seed our conversation topics in bristol | 21:05 |
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| notmyname | yes! everyone add topics you want to bring to the hackathon | 21:05 |
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| acoles | 'topic' is a candy bar in UK, so bring lots :) | 21:06 |
| clayg | nom nom | 21:06 |
| notmyname | interesting | 21:06 |
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| notmyname | #topic auditor watchers^Hbug | 21:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "auditor watchers^Hbug (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:07 | |
| notmyname | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1183656 | 21:07 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1183656 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "object auditors don't finish" [High,Confirmed] | 21:07 |
| clayg | lol | 21:07 |
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| notmyname | clayg reminded us of this last week, and it seems that there is some comments on it | 21:08 |
| * clayg will endeavor to keep his trap shut | 21:08 | |
| notmyname | I don't remember...was someone starting to investigate a solution? | 21:08 |
| notmyname | was it onovy? | 21:08 |
| notmyname | hmm...doesn't seem to be around right now | 21:09 |
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| notmyname | anyone know anything more on this? | 21:09 |
| acoles | I asked Gerry to share some numbers from our public cloud just as a reference point, so he added a comment | 21:09 |
| notmyname | cool, thanks | 21:10 |
| clayg | I hadn't seen Gerry's notes - that's amazing - you guys are the very best | 21:10 |
| acoles | shame those particular auditors won't be running too many more times :( | 21:10 |
| notmyname | acoles: is that where the bugs at inside of hpe? "yup it's slow, here's numers" or is there any work on a patch? | 21:10 |
| notmyname | acoles: isn't it already all turned off? | 21:11 |
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| clayg | notmyname: my reading of the comment was just "here's some numbers" - not "we're working on it" or even "we care about this" | 21:11 |
| acoles | notmyname: no work on a patch sorry, I just remember last week there was some discussion of 'how much of a real problem is this in a largish cluster' | 21:11 |
| notmyname | right | 21:11 |
| torgomatic | I mean, it told us what we needed to know. Is saving just the device enough? No, because audits take a couple weeks on real loads, so if we save the partition then we lose many fewer hours' progress on restart | 21:12 |
| notmyname | clayg: I'm very optimistic ;-) | 21:12 |
| torgomatic | so now we know what level to save at; no pontificating needed. | 21:12 |
| torgomatic | :) | 21:12 |
| clayg | all over the but the typing | 21:12 |
| notmyname | no now that pontification is done, we get to the real question... | 21:12 |
| notmyname | who's doing the "think real hard. type in the answer" part? | 21:13 |
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| clayg | onovy and peterlisak sorta said they might | 21:13 |
| clayg | but since the status of the bug is currently unassigned that's probably the most honest representation of reality | 21:13 |
| notmyname | clayg: thanks for remembering that. :-) | 21:13 |
| notmyname | yeah | 21:14 |
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| notmyname | so when they're back online, let's bring it up and see what's going on. if I don't, someone else can | 21:14 |
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| clayg | k | 21:14 |
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| notmyname | ok, next candy bar | 21:14 |
| acoles | i'll try to think about it. finding typing bandwidth might be harder. | 21:14 |
| notmyname | #topic patch 273073 | 21:15 |
| patchbot | notmyname: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/273073/ - swift - Insert versioned_writes in correct pipeline position | 21:15 |
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| notmyname | acoles: this one is your topic | 21:15 |
| * notmyname will now only think in terms of meeting candy bars | 21:15 | |
| clayg | does this patch need discussion or reviews? | 21:16 |
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| notmyname | acoles: ? | 21:16 |
| acoles | if you dont specify it in config then versioned writes can end up in the wrong place | 21:16 |
| acoles | ok, just wanted to flag it up because its hopefully an easy review and also not sure who sets it explicitly or who is relying on the code to place it in the pipeline | 21:17 |
| * clayg pulls our our pipeline solver | 21:17 | |
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| acoles | and ti would be nice to get it fixed because other bugs vary according to where that middleware is in the pipeline :) | 21:17 |
| acoles | s/ti/it/ | 21:17 |
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| * notmyname really wants to get the pipeline solver back as a thing for swift | 21:17 | |
| notmyname | ok. small review, important bug fix (or footgun removal). go review it | 21:18 |
| acoles | so I have a dependent patch to fix an SLO bug that can't land until we know that versioned writes will be in right place in a test cluster | 21:18 |
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| acoles | notmyname: yeah, but also a headsup to check what you ship wrt config | 21:19 |
| notmyname | yes | 21:19 |
| clayg | so it looks like we're still letting it flop in auto - although i'm currently working on a new swift release so that may change | 21:19 |
| acoles | clayg: just review i hope | 21:19 |
| notmyname | #topic swift and high-latency media | 21:19 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "swift and high-latency media (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:19 | |
| notmyname | cschwede: this is your topic. what's up? | 21:19 |
| cschwede | there were some discussions at the last summit regarding tapes (or high latency media in general). ibm and bdt are working on this, and they just released a middleware prototype | 21:19 |
| notmyname | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/085576.html | 21:20 |
| cschwede | so i simply wanted to give a heads up on this topic and hopefully raise some interest | 21:20 |
| cschwede | more details are in http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-February/085576.html, and hseipp and akle are here today in case you have any questions | 21:20 |
| clayg | cschwede: i saw a notice on the ML - so sweet new stuff is out, yeah!? | 21:20 |
| notmyname | cool. I love to see people building stuff around swift :-) | 21:20 |
| notmyname | akle: hseipp: thanks for working on this :-) | 21:20 |
| clayg | ... i haven't really looked at it - does it add some new api goodness to do like "is it ready, is it ready, is it ready, ..." | 21:20 |
| hseipp | cschwede: yes and thanks for getting us up here | 21:20 |
| akle | you are welcome. would be great if we could talk about | 21:21 |
| cschwede | clayg: well, kinda. the middleware adds some new verbs and triggers backend works | 21:21 |
| notmyname | interesting | 21:22 |
| cschwede | notmyname: yep, might be something completely new for swift. fresh ideas! | 21:22 |
| notmyname | that would be good stuff to look at on a long plane ride home | 21:22 |
| clayg | new *VERBS* | 21:22 |
| clayg | is one of them GREP (cc redbo) | 21:22 |
| notmyname | clayg: next up they'll have a grep one... yeha :-) | 21:22 |
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| cschwede | no grep. well, verbs is the wrong term in this case | 21:22 |
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| clayg | hseipp: akle: would either of you possibly be at the hack-a-thon in a couple of weeks? | 21:23 |
| clayg | notmyname: do you think we could a call in something? | 21:23 |
| cschwede | but doing a post and sending a MIGRATE, RECALL along with it | 21:23 |
| notmyname | akle: hseipp: is there anything specific you need from us in the community right now? | 21:23 |
| cschwede | or a GET STATUS | 21:23 |
| akle | unfortunately can't attend this time | 21:24 |
| hseipp | clayg: unfortunately I can't make it to this hackathon | 21:24 |
| clayg | GET STATUS!? | 21:24 |
| clayg | hrmmm... | 21:24 |
| ho_away | i see using query parameter | 21:24 |
| cschwede | clayg: send a GET, „get“ the STATUS of the RECALL | 21:24 |
| cschwede | ho_away: yep. verb was the wrong term. it’s using POST & GET for now | 21:24 |
| clayg | a'ight | 21:24 |
| notmyname | akle: hseipp: is there anything specific you need from us in the community right now? | 21:26 |
| cschwede | so i think it would be nice to have a look at this, talk about this during the hackathon (maybe doing a conf call) and see if we can get to a common implementation that is usable with different backends/vendors | 21:26 |
| hseipp | notmyname: at this stage we primarily see for comments and feedback - there is also a Wiki page linked to leave comments | 21:26 |
| hseipp | s/see/seek/ | 21:26 |
| clayg | I had sort of imagined it might be more RESTful, maybe just adding a COPY sort of notion to move it into a storage policy that could do listings (maybe HEAD) but you had to "COPY" it somewhere to do a restore, with some sort of trigger to test if it was ready - I guess I need to dig in to understand some of the implementation considerations/trade-offs and history/alternatives | 21:26 |
| notmyname | hseipp: ok, great | 21:26 |
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| ho_away | do we need to have HLM stub for testing? | 21:27 |
| clayg | cschwede: that's a great goal! you're the champ! | 21:27 |
| notmyname | next up (testing!) | 21:27 |
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| notmyname | #topic in-process testing with fast-post | 21:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "in-process testing with fast-post (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:27 | |
| hseipp | ho_away: this is one of the next things on our to-do list, for now we tried to put as much into the readme as possible | 21:27 |
| notmyname | acoles: what's going on here? | 21:27 |
| acoles | I'd like to have a gate job that runs func tests against a fast-post configured service | 21:27 |
| clayg | ho_away: I think we all get our own LHC for testing | 21:27 |
| ho_away | hseipp: thanks! | 21:28 |
| acoles | currently we have 3 func tests runs in the gate, all use post-as-copy | 21:28 |
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| cschwede | clayg: we should do the next hackathon there and ask for some resources… that would be fun! | 21:28 |
| clayg | acoles: *see* everyone uses post-as-copy! | 21:28 |
| notmyname | acoles: that sounds like a great idea | 21:28 |
| acoles | so this patch adds a tox env to do in process testing with fast-post, patch 274086 | 21:28 |
| patchbot | acoles: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274086/ - swift - Enable in-process func tests to optionally use fas... | 21:28 |
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| clayg | didn't someone +A that yet? | 21:29 |
| notmyname | optionally? | 21:29 |
| clayg | it just adds an env flag to make it so you can run the in-process functests with a different config option - and we already have some of those | 21:29 |
| acoles | question is do I swap gate-tox-func to run that new env, or add a new fourth func test run? | 21:29 |
| clayg | ... only difference with this one is that it's useful | 21:29 |
| clayg | acoles: ah | 21:29 |
| clayg | acoles: yeah that's a discussion | 21:29 |
| acoles | clayg: think its waiting for a +A | 21:29 |
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| notmyname | acoles: IMO replace the existing, since I don't think the current 2 different functests really do anything different anyway | 21:30 |
| acoles | and also, headsup that this means new patches will have to work with fast-post enabled! | 21:30 |
| clayg | acoles: don't care new job or change the other in-proc job - i don't really care about the in-proc job - i think it'd be fine to make it test fast-post | 21:30 |
| clayg | acoles: oh oh oh - that'll be wonderful! | 21:30 |
| notmyname | can we get another core to commit to review this asap? | 21:30 |
| clayg | acoles: can the name of the job somehow reflect that it's using fast-post? | 21:30 |
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| clayg | i have no idea how to openstack-ci | 21:30 |
| acoles | well, apart from patches to EC, but thats another story, and maybe another gate job :) | 21:30 |
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| acoles | clayg: good idea, I will have to look at -infra again, maybe the job name simply takes the tox env name, so "yes" | 21:31 |
| acoles | -infra is not my strength | 21:31 |
| clayg | acoles: probably be nice with in-proc (since we have full control over the env) if we tested as many storage policies as we think we can get away with configuring - do functests still only run against a single policy (but it's configurable?) | 21:31 |
| acoles | (do I have any? :) | 21:31 |
| acoles | clayg: you can set the policy for func tests, SWIFT_TEST_POLICY IIRC | 21:32 |
| mattoliverau | I'll take a look at the testing patch. Especially if it helps acoles. | 21:32 |
| acoles | clayg: and we could add an EC ring/policy to the in-process test setup | 21:32 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: thanks | 21:33 |
| acoles | mattoliverau: thanks, there are some notes in review comments about how to verify it | 21:33 |
| acoles | clayg: so we could even make func-in-process-fast-post use an EC policy! | 21:33 |
| mattoliverau | acoles: awesome thanks.. I'll have a play with it during boring talks :) | 21:33 |
| acoles | mattoliverau: has notmyname not spoken yet then :D:D | 21:34 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: there's one at 2:15 today that will be terribly boring ;-) | 21:34 |
| notmyname | acoles: right! | 21:34 |
| notmyname | perfect chance for code reviews | 21:34 |
| mattoliverau | notmyname: lol, I need to listen so I can heckle | 21:34 |
| ho_away | lol | 21:34 |
| notmyname | oh, so mattoliverau gave his first ever public presentation yesterday (on container sharding in swift). he did great | 21:34 |
| jrichli | have the link yet? | 21:35 |
| mattoliverau | Well first ever solo one | 21:35 |
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| clayg | mattoliverau: congrats! | 21:35 |
| ho_away | cool! | 21:35 |
| clayg | mattoliverau: also thanks for looking at fix-rings-again2 | 21:35 |
| notmyname | acoles: have you done anything yet to update the gate jobs in -infra yet for the fast post stuff? or just waiting for this patch to land first? | 21:35 |
| acoles | mattoliverau yay | 21:35 |
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| acoles | notmyname: not yet, I will let y'all know when I have a patch up for -infra gate job change, and yeah it will depend on this one | 21:36 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:36 |
| notmyname | acoles: thanks for this. I'm very happy about our fast-post future | 21:37 |
| clayg | it's so bright I've gotta wear shades | 21:37 |
| notmyname | #topic patch 202411 | 21:37 |
| patchbot | notmyname: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/202411/ - swift - Add functional test for access control (RBAC) with... | 21:37 |
| acoles | thanks for the feedback | 21:37 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "patch 202411 (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:37 | |
| * acoles goes to make reconciler fast-post proof... | 21:37 | |
| clayg | crap | 21:37 |
| ho_away | i got a +2 on it now so i want to have more reviews :-) | 21:37 |
| clayg | i sorta got a keystone-swift-all-in working (thanks ho_away !) but I haven't looped back to to that change yet | 21:38 |
| notmyname | ok, who's volunteering to be another reviewer? | 21:38 |
| acoles | not me :) | 21:38 |
| clayg | well that was mostly just acoles getting exahusted | 21:38 |
| mattoliverau | sounds like clayg is | 21:38 |
| clayg | s/mostly/partly/g | 21:38 |
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| clayg | mattoliverau: I'm trying to get more keystone friendly if that's what your suggesting | 21:38 |
| clayg | ho_away: doesn't want *me* to review it - that's practiacally zero chance it makes it through that with a +A - clayg is stone cold heartless -1'er | 21:39 |
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| notmyname | clayg: cschwede: kota_: tdasilva: torgomatic: ? | 21:39 |
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| ho_away | clayg: lol | 21:39 |
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| torgomatic | I'm in the middle of untangling get_*_info, but after I can take a look | 21:40 |
| cschwede | notmyname: looking at it right now (but no rating this evening) | 21:40 |
| kota_ | I also need to get more keystone friendly, once i tried it i got failed to set the keystone env :/ | 21:40 |
| acoles | clayg: ho_away took a bunch of -1s from me and is still standing | 21:40 |
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| clayg | kota_: try the keystone branch on swiftstack/swift-all-in-one - it's getting better all the time! | 21:40 |
| clayg | acoles: ho_away is a rockstar | 21:40 |
| kota_ | clayg: \o/ | 21:40 |
| notmyname | ok, so between torgomatic cschwede clayg and kota_, it *should* be either landed or have other patch sets by next week ;-) | 21:41 |
| clayg | kota_: yeah that's also mostly ho_away | 21:41 |
| acoles | clayg: +1 | 21:41 |
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| ho_away | torgomatic: cshwede: thanks! | 21:41 |
| notmyname | ho_away: the keystone work on the vSAIO is really imporant, IMO. thanks | 21:41 |
| acoles | kota_: write a script to feed keystone with random combinations of options until you get a 200 ;) | 21:41 |
| notmyname | #topic open discussion | 21:42 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:42 | |
| notmyname | anything else to bring up in the meeting this week? | 21:42 |
| awelleck | what does everyone think about https://blueprints.launchpad.net/python-swiftclient/+spec/optional-query-strings-on-requests | 21:42 |
| clayg | anyone else noticed the 204 content-length thing!? | 21:42 |
| clayg | I was like "i'll be damned i guess we suck"; then I was like WTF this wasn't in 2616? | 21:42 |
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| torgomatic | I love the tempest thing; there's tests in there that assert we have content-length in there, so we can't take it out to meet spec without first doing a ridiculous multi-repo song-and-dance | 21:43 |
| notmyname | awelleck: yup. I think you'll also find a lot of agreement from timburke | 21:43 |
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| notmyname | clayg: that sounds like one of those things I marked as read this week. what's going on? | 21:44 |
| acoles | clayg: link? haven't seen it | 21:44 |
| clayg | awelleck: why is this a spec instead of a patch? | 21:44 |
| timburke | do it! standardize all the things! | 21:44 |
| awelleck | notmyname: ok thanks, ill work on it | 21:44 |
| clayg | wait - that's not a spec - that's a blueprint - wtf are we supposed do with that? | 21:44 |
| notmyname | awelleck: great thanks | 21:44 |
| zaitcev | convert to spec by using cp(1) | 21:44 |
| zaitcev | well, curl(1) | 21:44 |
| notmyname | clayg: be nice. awelleck probably just found some openstack "here's how you're supposed to do it" docs :-) | 21:45 |
| clayg | this is the rfc 7230 tempest thing -> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/275652/ | 21:45 |
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| acoles | I don't get notified of blueprints - is there a way for that to happen? | 21:45 |
| clayg | notmyname: awelleck: sry, if you remember where you found such a doc point me out it so I can hate on it | 21:45 |
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| clayg | don't shoot the messenger and all that | 21:45 |
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| awelleck | clayg: not sure | 21:46 |
| acoles | clayg: oic. thaks | 21:46 |
| clayg | awelleck: anyway - sounds broken and annoying - not sure where to put my +A/please-fix - but thanks for point it out | 21:46 |
| clayg | i think we could make it an open bug - those we know how to deal with | 21:46 |
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| notmyname | acoles: no. there is no blueprint notification thing (for new ones. you have to subscribe to each one. yet another reason they are terrible) | 21:46 |
| notmyname | clayg: so what do we do with the tempest thing? | 21:46 |
| acoles | notmyname: ok. awelleck ^^ take note | 21:47 |
| clayg | blueprint - more like BOOprint | 21:47 |
| clayg | notmyname: oh idk, i htink they're going to spin their wheels getting tempest team happy only to realize this is for swift api next | 21:47 |
| acoles | actually looks like ben martin wrote the blueprint | 21:47 |
| clayg | ... as we do | 21:47 |
| clayg | MOAR booprints!? | 21:47 |
| clayg | notmyname: at first i was feeling bad because the language is pretty clear - but then I remembered we're older than 7230 and they can go pound out a time machine | 21:48 |
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| notmyname | I don't know. maybe dropping content-length on 204 isn't a breaking thing. idk | 21:49 |
| notmyname | we've made similar changes before with standard headers, IIRC | 21:50 |
| * notmyname doesn't remember specifics | 21:50 | |
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| notmyname | clayg: how'd you find this? do you monitor tempest patches? was it on the ML? | 21:51 |
| clayg | notmyname: I think there's a bug associated with it? i get bugs | 21:52 |
| notmyname | ah ok | 21:52 |
| notmyname | anything else to bring up at the last minute this week? | 21:52 |
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| notmyname | from anyone | 21:52 |
| clayg | acoles: so what's the short and skinny on the bad with versioned_writes? | 21:52 |
| clayg | it should be... before/after dlo/slo? | 21:52 |
| timburke | i'd still like some reviews on adding delete markers to versioned_writes - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/214922/ | 21:53 |
| timburke | clayg: yeah, after both, apparently | 21:54 |
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| acoles | clayg: should be after slo | 21:54 |
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| jlhinson | patch 218490 has one +2, needs one more | 21:54 |
| patchbot | jlhinson: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/218490/ - swift - Automatic refresh of memcache config settings | 21:54 |
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| acoles | clayg: but if you have config'd' dlo/slo but not versioned-writes then it gets inserted before them | 21:55 |
| acoles | clayg: if you have not config'd dlo nor versioned-writes then it gets inserted after | 21:55 |
| acoles | clayg: so as always, not even a simple bug | 21:56 |
| notmyname | conference stuff is starting here, so I need to close the meeting and physically move | 21:56 |
| notmyname | thank you everyone for attending and working on swift. you are what makes swift awesome | 21:56 |
| notmyname | #endmeeting | 21:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Feb 3 21:56:36 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2016/swift.2016-02-03-21.00.html | 21:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2016/swift.2016-02-03-21.00.txt | 21:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2016/swift.2016-02-03-21.00.log.html | 21:56 |
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