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bryan_att | thinrichs: i've been here also | 00:08 |
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thinrichs | Hi all. Anyone see this message? | 00:09 |
ramineni_ | yes | 00:09 |
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masahito | yes | 00:09 |
ekcs | thinrichs: yes I see it. | 00:09 |
thinrichs | Great. | 00:09 |
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thinrichs | Not much on the agenda today. | 00:09 |
masahito | that's from my side. | 00:09 |
thinrichs | First a reminder that the Austin summit registration prices increase Mar 11 (if I remember right). | 00:09 |
thinrichs | 2 days from now. | 00:10 |
thinrichs | masahito: I didn't see your status update. Mind giving me the highlights? | 00:10 |
masahito | got it. | 00:10 |
thinrichs | (Seems we had a weird partitioning again—I couldn't see what anyone else was saying.) | 00:10 |
thinrichs | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 00:10 |
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masahito | thinrichs: I tested congress for Mitaka release and accepted my presentation. | 00:11 |
masahito | https://www.openstack.org/summit/austin-2016/summit-schedule/events/7199 | 00:11 |
masahito | that's highlight. | 00:11 |
thinrichs | Congratulations! | 00:12 |
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thinrichs | I'm looking forward to it. | 00:12 |
masahito | The title will be slightly changed because of some reasons, but the topic of it won't be changed. | 00:13 |
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thinrichs | While we're on the topic of Austin, I requested 3 working rooms just like at the last summit. | 00:14 |
thinrichs | But there are 11 more teams requesting space this summit, so we'll see if we can get all those rooms. | 00:14 |
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thinrichs | There's supposedly more room in Austin than Tokyo. | 00:14 |
thinrichs | ramineni_: want to give a status update? | 00:15 |
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ramineni_ | thinrichs: yes | 00:16 |
ramineni_ | thinrichs: I also did some testing around, and raised some patches for bugs reported | 00:16 |
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thinrichs | ramineni_: any noteworthy bugs? | 00:17 |
ramineni_ | thinrichs: now our tempest should be stable as propably all the outstanding tempest changes are merged now | 00:17 |
thinrichs | masahito: same question to you | 00:17 |
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thinrichs | ramineni_: great! Thanks for keeping on top of that. Gate failures due to tempest changes can really hurt the team's overall productivity. But you've kept us moving along! | 00:18 |
ramineni_ | thinrichs: no, didnt find any critical ones as such | 00:18 |
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thinrichs | Moving on then. | 00:19 |
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thinrichs | ekcs: progress report? | 00:19 |
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ekcs | Been doing testing. I encountered 500 errors on policy creation & deletion, I couldn't reproduce them once I restarted congress. | 00:20 |
ekcs | Could be a database connection issue. I want to investigate further at some point, but probably not a priority right now. | 00:20 |
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thinrichs | No clue as to how to replicate? That sounds like it could be a race condition. | 00:21 |
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thinrichs | We changed around quite a bit of code at the API layer, so there could easily be a subtle bug. | 00:22 |
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ekcs | I don’t think it’s race condition because it was very consistent. Until I restarted congress then it’s not there. | 00:22 |
thinrichs | Did you find the problem in the logs so we know where the error happened? | 00:22 |
ekcs | Yes. | 00:22 |
ekcs | I see the exception and stack trace in logs. | 00:22 |
ekcs | The bugs are here if anyone interested: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1554707 | 00:23 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1554707 in congress "500 when deleting policy" [Undecided,Invalid] | 00:23 |
ekcs | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1554712 | 00:23 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1554712 in congress "create policy fails" [Undecided,Invalid] | 00:23 |
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thinrichs | The first one looks like potentially a real problem. Like a type mismatch. | 00:25 |
thinrichs | Trying to figure out why that would disappear after a restart | 00:25 |
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thinrichs | Did you try inserting/deleting elements into the database directly to see if you could replicate? | 00:26 |
ekcs | Second one (create) I can see how that would disappear because db connection re-established and synchronize no longer fails. | 00:26 |
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ekcs | first one (delete) I don’t understand either why it would go away. | 00:26 |
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ekcs | thinrichs: no. Not sure what you’re suggesting. | 00:27 |
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thinrichs | Both the 500s are caused by the same error: that event.target is a string but is expected to be an object. | 00:28 |
ekcs | thinrichs: say create policy. then delete it from db. then delete policy from congress? | 00:28 |
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ekcs | thinrichs: Yup. | 00:29 |
ekcs | I can dig further if that’s desirable. | 00:29 |
thinrichs | ekcs: these feel like real bugs (probably the same real bug). | 00:29 |
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thinrichs | ekcs: I'll mark these as critical so we make sure to figure out what's happening | 00:30 |
thinrichs | ekcs: it'd be great if you could dig into it a bit. | 00:30 |
ekcs | got it. | 00:30 |
thinrichs | Maybe even just manually looking through the code path for create/delete policy to figure out how that event.target might not be an object. | 00:30 |
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ekcs | ok | 00:31 |
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thinrichs | ekcs: off the top of my head, I'm surprised there's any mention of events when we are creating/deleting policies | 00:32 |
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thinrichs | ekcs: definitely ping me if you want help | 00:32 |
ekcs | ok got it. | 00:32 |
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thinrichs | I'll do a quick update. | 00:33 |
thinrichs | Worked a bit on one of the bugs ramineni_ found | 00:33 |
thinrichs | That code seems more or less ready... | 00:33 |
thinrichs | At least for more review | 00:34 |
thinrichs | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289650/ | 00:34 |
thinrichs | Also last week I did the release of Mitaka3 for both the server and client. | 00:34 |
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thinrichs | Been waiting to do a round of testing til this first batch of bug fixes goes in. | 00:35 |
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thinrichs | I think that's about it. | 00:35 |
thinrichs | Let's open up for discussion. | 00:36 |
thinrichs | #topic open discussion | 00:36 |
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thinrichs | Anyone have anything? | 00:36 |
bryan_att | I have a quick update | 00:36 |
bryan_att | I've been spending most of my time getting the OPNFV Brahmaputra release out the door, and automating the Congress install on it. | 00:36 |
thinrichs | bryan_att: meant to ask if you had resolved that glacne problem | 00:36 |
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bryan_att | I sent logs about the issue I reported about glance images not showing up in the glance table. | 00:37 |
bryan_att | In my Ravello deploy the same issue did not occur. I will try to repeat it on my NUC deploy using the JOID and Apex OPNFV installers. Also the list of issues I reported earlier will be re-tested and if they are still there, send to the list individually. | 00:37 |
bryan_att | (I have a working install of OPNFV B on Ravello with Congress and my test webapp for it. I'll be using that for demos and testing while I'm at ONS next week.) | 00:37 |
bryan_att | My Congress install script is now totally automated, though still in bash. I'm getting Puppet training so I can implement it in Puppet. That will be the common install tool I will focus on across OPNFV installer projects. | 00:38 |
bryan_att | that's about it | 00:38 |
thinrichs | bryan_att: Lots of progress! | 00:38 |
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thinrichs | bryan_att: I saw your email with the logs about glance. | 00:38 |
thinrichs | masahito, ramineni_: did either of you get a chance to look at the logs? | 00:38 |
thinrichs | Nothing stood out to me as pointing toward a solution. | 00:38 |
bryan_att | if it reappears I will send additional logs | 00:39 |
thinrichs | bryan_att: that'd be great! | 00:39 |
masahito | I took a glance the log. | 00:39 |
masahito | It looks like the client works well. | 00:39 |
bryan_att | yes, just doesn't send any image rows! | 00:40 |
thinrichs | Everything but that. :) | 00:40 |
ramineni_ | looks like sync didnt happen yet? | 00:40 |
bryan_att | I tried the test after a few hours and the same result | 00:41 |
thinrichs | That could easily do it. But I thought we would pull the data immediately if we hadn't already pulled it. | 00:41 |
ramineni_ | bryan_att: ya, did you see any errors in congress log while polling data? | 00:42 |
bryan_att | no, none that stood out but I will look closer | 00:42 |
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ramineni_ | ohok | 00:42 |
bryan_att | The #1 unique thing here is that I am running Congress in an LXC container on the main OpenStack controller node. | 00:42 |
thinrichs | Off the top of my head I don't remember this: do we have the --trace option available for the row list command? | 00:43 |
thinrichs | That would at least print out the search it's trying to do. | 00:43 |
thinrichs | Though maybe for a basic datasource list query that won't help much. | 00:43 |
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thinrichs | Oh, but I just remembered we have a writeup on how to debug these kinds of problems… | 00:44 |
bryan_att | I'll try that (--trace) also. | 00:44 |
thinrichs | #link https://congress.readthedocs.org/en/latest/troubleshooting.html#datasource-troubleshooting | 00:44 |
bryan_att | sorry for taking so much time - thanks for the ideas and help! | 00:44 |
thinrichs | That's for the datasource one in particular. | 00:44 |
thinrichs | bryan_att: our pleasure. It's wonderful getting feedback from real users!! | 00:45 |
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bryan_att | trying to get there... | 00:45 |
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thinrichs | Any other topics for discussion? | 00:46 |
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ekcs | thinrichs: Back to the event.target, do you know if they are meant to be strings or objects or either? | 00:46 |
ekcs | I see this comment in agnostic: | 00:46 |
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ekcs | def _update_obj(self, events, theory_string): | 00:47 |
ekcs | """Apply events. | 00:47 |
ekcs | Checks if applying EVENTS is permitted and if not | 00:47 |
ekcs | returns a list of errors. If it is permitted, it | 00:47 |
ekcs | applies it and then returns a list of changes. | 00:47 |
ekcs | In both cases, the return is a 2-tuple (if-permitted, list). | 00:47 |
ekcs | Note: All event.target fields are the NAMES of theories, not | 00:47 |
ekcs | theory objects. theory_string is the default theory. | 00:47 |
ekcs | """ | 00:47 |
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ekcs | My best guess right now is they’re always meant to be strings. the failure occors because of a simple mistake of trying to use it as an object. But the line is reached so rarely. | 00:48 |
thinrichs | I imagine the comment is correct: that event.target is a string. Though quite possibly later we destructively modify that field and turn it into an object. | 00:48 |
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thinrichs | ekcs: would make sense. What I don't understand is why update_obj is called during a create_policy. | 00:49 |
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ekcs | reached so rarely because policy creation/teletion doesn’t lead to disabled events normally. | 00:49 |
thinrichs | I wonder if there's a cascading delete: delete the policy results in deleting all the rules in the policy. | 00:49 |
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ekcs | ok that’s helpufl. iall look forther. | 00:49 |
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thinrichs | Last thoughts? | 00:50 |
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ekcs | thinrichs: another quci question. | 00:51 |
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thinrichs | ekcs: ok | 00:51 |
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ekcs | which code section is responsible for ordering the evaluation of rules so that eg negated literals are only evaluated when ground. | 00:52 |
ekcs | is it in topdown? | 00:52 |
thinrichs | Definitely not topdown. We do it statically. | 00:53 |
thinrichs | I think it's in agnostic.py:Runtime._update_obj_datalog | 00:53 |
thinrichs | You'll see the update_would_cause_errors | 00:53 |
ekcs | hmm ok. thanks. | 00:54 |
thinrichs | Actually… it's the update() call in that function, | 00:54 |
thinrichs | which is implemented in nonrecursive.py, | 00:54 |
thinrichs | which then calls compile.reorder_for_safety | 00:54 |
ekcs | ok. | 00:54 |
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thinrichs | Thanks all! | 00:55 |
thinrichs | #endmeeting | 00:56 |
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gmann | #startmeeting qa | 08:59 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 10 08:59:36 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:59 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:59 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 08:59 |
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gmann | hi, who all here today? | 08:59 |
dmellado | o/ Hi gmann ;) | 09:00 |
jlanoux | hi | 09:00 |
masayukig | o/ | 09:00 |
gmann | dmellado: jlanoux masayukig hi | 09:00 |
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jordanP | hi o/ | 09:01 |
dmellado | hey jordanP | 09:01 |
gmann | jordanP: hi | 09:01 |
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gmann | let's start | 09:01 |
gmann | https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Proposed_Agenda_for_March_10th_2016_.280900_UTC.29 | 09:01 |
gmann | ^^ today agenda: | 09:02 |
gmann | #topic Specs Reviews | 09:02 |
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gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 09:02 |
gmann | So we have many specs ready for review | 09:02 |
gmann | I saw andreaf ready for client refactor one as per his discussion with mtreinish | 09:03 |
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jordanP | andreaf, is pretty active | 09:03 |
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gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/92804/ | 09:03 |
gmann | I still needs to look | 09:03 |
dmellado | I'll need to have a look too | 09:03 |
gmann | masayukig is already +2 | 09:03 |
gmann | great | 09:03 |
gmann | dmellado: Thanks | 09:03 |
dmellado | added myself as a reviewer, will try to find some time today | 09:03 |
gmann | I will put this in list may be tomorrow if i get time | 09:04 |
masayukig | gmann: yeah, it's a nice spec, i think | 09:04 |
gmann | masayukig: yea | 09:04 |
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gmann | and second priority one from code sprint was resource.yaml one | 09:05 |
gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173334/ | 09:05 |
gmann | I think andreaf and John started working on that | 09:05 |
gmann | but not sure ab out spec is updated accordingly or not | 09:06 |
gmann | we can check later | 09:06 |
gmann | saw patches already for that - | 09:06 |
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gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/tempest-resources | 09:06 |
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gmann | anyways let's check with andreaf later | 09:07 |
dmellado | souds good to me | 09:07 |
gmann | any other spec anyone want to discuss | 09:07 |
masayukig | I +A'ed to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266094/ (Centralized Workspaces) today, actually. | 09:08 |
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dmellado | well, not a spec but I'd like to discuss some patches about the consistent-services-names | 09:08 |
dmellado | we can do that later in the tempest section | 09:08 |
gmann | masayukig: ok, i did not even look into that | 09:08 |
gmann | masayukig: can you briefly describe that | 09:09 |
gmann | dmellado: yea we will discuss in Tempest topic | 09:09 |
masayukig | gmann: ok, | 09:09 |
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masayukig | it's introducing a manager for tempest workspaces. | 09:10 |
jordanP | I don"t even know what a tempest workspace is | 09:10 |
jordanP | and the BP doesn't describe it either | 09:11 |
gmann | jordanP: we can initialize the tempest folder/workspace and run tests in that | 09:11 |
jordanP | but that's fini, that BP seems rather small and doesn't have a lot of impact on the rest of tempest | 09:11 |
gmann | in isolated manner with diff diff conf | 09:11 |
jordanP | *fine | 09:11 |
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gmann | jordanP: i see | 09:11 |
gmann | masayukig: so tempest workspace register command is same as tempest init ? | 09:12 |
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masayukig | no, i don't think so | 09:12 |
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dmellado | what would the difference be? | 09:12 |
dmellado | would it have a separated .testrepository? | 09:13 |
gmann | masayukig: in example it created another workspace named 'staging' in parallel to 'devstack' | 09:13 |
masayukig | we can manage workspaces with the command. | 09:13 |
dmellado | I'll read the spec alter but it'd be great have that summarized ;) | 09:13 |
gmann | dmellado: yes, separate .testrepository, separate testr run separate tempest.conf | 09:13 |
masayukig | oops, | 09:13 |
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masayukig | gmann: true. | 09:13 |
gmann | masayukig: so with tempest init we used to create separate workspace | 09:14 |
gmann | masayukig: what i understood with that spec is, it enables to manage workspace like rename, list etc | 09:14 |
gmann | masayukig: but did not get Register means and how it is different than tempest init | 09:15 |
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masayukig | gmann: 'tempest init' makes a workspace and register it to a .tempest. | 09:15 |
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jordanP | maybe we should move on ? :) | 09:16 |
masayukig | gmann: I think we don't have it yet, so we need a register command, probably. | 09:16 |
gmann | masayukig: i see, tempest init too register | 09:16 |
masayukig | jordanP: gmann: yeah, let's move on | 09:16 |
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gmann | masayukig: ok | 09:16 |
gmann | jordanP: yea:) | 09:16 |
gmann | anything on spec ? | 09:17 |
gmann | #topic Priority Items | 09:17 |
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gmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-qa-priorities | 09:17 |
gmann | first one is mine - Tempest Microversion support | 09:17 |
gmann | Framework is ready in tempest and i have added patches to move it to tempest/lib | 09:18 |
gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284387/ | 09:18 |
gmann | added release notes and library interface doc | 09:18 |
gmann | please review | 09:18 |
gmann | and along with that modifying compute service clients to support microversion | 09:19 |
dmellado | will do | 09:19 |
gmann | all set here -https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/api-microversions-testing-support+status:open | 09:19 |
gmann | dmellado: Thanks | 09:19 |
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gmann | we run v2.2 tests already on gate | 09:19 |
gmann | and v2.10 and v2.20 patches are up | 09:19 |
gmann | all works fine | 09:20 |
gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/258391/ | 09:20 |
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gmann | jlanoux: i updated that patch and it hits in 2.20 version now | 09:20 |
gmann | its ready to review | 09:20 |
gmann | hoping to merge all framework patch soon so that we can implement other microversion too | 09:21 |
jlanoux | gmann: Yeah, that looks good - thanks. I might need to change the scenario a bit but that's cool it's working! | 09:21 |
gmann | It is for M1 but got too delayed | 09:21 |
gmann | jlanoux: please add comment about that. | 09:21 |
gmann | that will helpful | 09:21 |
jlanoux | gmann: will do | 09:21 |
gmann | jlanoux: Thanks | 09:22 |
gmann | next is - Health Dashboard | 09:22 |
gmann | masayukig: you want to talk anything on that | 09:22 |
masayukig | ok, | 09:22 |
gmann | may be new feature. | 09:22 |
gmann | which is always helpful for debugging | 09:23 |
masayukig | http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/ is the dashboard page. | 09:23 |
masayukig | (but now, it has something wrong..) | 09:23 |
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gmann | yea taking time to load | 09:24 |
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masayukig | anyway, now, we are improving UI to useful for debuging etc. | 09:24 |
gmann | ok | 09:24 |
gmann | I saw this- "Failed Tests in Last 10 Failed Runs" | 09:25 |
masayukig | added fancy bar graphs to project status, failed job informations, etc. | 09:25 |
gmann | that will give failed tests of last 10 failure of same tests or job | 09:26 |
masayukig | so if you have comments/feedbacks, please notify to the IRC channel, adding bug, emails | 09:26 |
gmann | masayukig: sure, thanks | 09:26 |
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masayukig | bug page is https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-health | 09:26 |
gmann | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-health | 09:27 |
gmann | I will check new graph once it is loaded. | 09:27 |
masayukig | gmann: thanks, that's all from me. | 09:27 |
gmann | masayukig: Thanks. | 09:27 |
gmann | next is - -Service Client Migrations | 09:27 |
gmann | we will take in Tempest topic as dmellado mentioned | 09:28 |
dmellado | on this we're pretty much done | 09:28 |
dmellado | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-tempest-service-clients | 09:28 |
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gmann | dmellado: yea, but still lot of client s we need to move | 09:28 |
gmann | its huge work so might take more time | 09:28 |
dmellado | gmann: maybe we should open an etherpad for that too | 09:28 |
dmellado | adding it to the split one | 09:29 |
gmann | dmellado: i think same etherpad is for that | 09:29 |
dmellado | on this I'd appreciate comments on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/286573/ | 09:29 |
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dmellado | for the tokens_client and token | 09:29 |
dmellado | and we should think about 'what to do' with the remaining non-applicable to split methods | 09:30 |
dmellado | at least for keystone | 09:30 |
gmann | dmellado: yea, i still feel to keep it in identity client | 09:30 |
dmellado | I've been keeping it there for comments, but if we all agree on that I'll abandon the patches | 09:30 |
gmann | we should keep those in common clients like identity_client for all generic interface for keystone API | 09:30 |
gmann | any other suggestion? | 09:31 |
dmellado | sounds fine for me | 09:31 |
gmann | anyways let's oomichi too have a look into those | 09:31 |
gmann | and once we will split almost all then we can have better view about remaining methods | 09:31 |
dmellado | sure, anyway gmann, as you said, huge work so it'll get delayed | 09:31 |
gmann | dmellado: yea | 09:32 |
dmellado | but we can start migrating keystone as it is now ;) | 09:32 |
dmellado | any more topic on tempest? | 09:32 |
gmann | dmellado: sure, but before that we can iterate the interface are all cleanup as per all points in that etherpad | 09:32 |
dmellado | gmann: +1 | 09:32 |
gmann | and start migrating those and review carefully there | 09:32 |
gmann | lets move on | 09:33 |
gmann | next in priority item is - Tempest Lib Migrations | 09:33 |
gmann | jlanoux: anything you have on ssh thing | 09:33 |
gmann | othersie we directly move on to - Tempest CLI Improvements | 09:33 |
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dmellado | on that, I'd like to revisit the tempest-config stuff I posted. I think it'll be great to have this integrated, but it won't go for mitaka | 09:34 |
dmellado | so we can discuss that in the Austin sessions | 09:34 |
gmann | dmellado: auto generation of config ? | 09:35 |
dmellado | gmann: yep, I sent an email about this before to the ML | 09:35 |
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gmann | yea, ok | 09:35 |
gmann | let's talk on Tempest CLI Improvements | 09:35 |
gmann | anything on this. may be masayukig you again :) | 09:36 |
dmellado | that'd be integrated on tempest-cli | 09:36 |
dmellado | that's why I brought it on here | 09:36 |
dmellado | DPaterson was also intereseted, but anyway, I'll bring this later on ;) | 09:36 |
gmann | dmellado: honesty saying i still on same side but yea lets discuss later | 09:36 |
jlanoux | gmann: I think we're about to close the bp with andreaf | 09:37 |
gmann | jlanoux: ok | 09:37 |
masayukig | gmann: dmellado: yeah, old commands were already integrated. | 09:37 |
gmann | masayukig: yea, i always use cleanup :) | 09:37 |
dmellado | masayukig: cool ;) | 09:38 |
gmann | which is very helpful for me as i always do CTR C on running tests | 09:38 |
gmann | let's move on to next topic | 09:38 |
gmann | #topic Tempest | 09:38 |
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gmann | one i have on this | 09:38 |
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gmann | i still need to add big for that | 09:38 |
gmann | actually there are failure hitting on plugin tests in many projects | 09:39 |
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gmann | that was due to fwaas tempest plugin has import error | 09:39 |
gmann | #link http://logs.openstack.org/50/289650/4/check/gate-congress-dsvm-api/6a27be7/console.html | 09:39 |
dmellado | yep just saw it on #openstack-infra | 09:39 |
gmann | fix is already up for fwaas | 09:39 |
gmann | #https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290983/ | 09:39 |
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gmann | but here issue is if any plugin has import error etc it will leads all plugin tests to fail | 09:40 |
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gmann | while discovery the tests import error hits | 09:40 |
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dmellado | gmann: so if it hits discovery error then all the tests fail? | 09:41 |
gmann | my suggestion is to make that log only and say ok this plugin has error and run others | 09:41 |
gmann | dmellado: yea error in listing the tests | 09:41 |
dmellado | +1 on that, there was something similar happening in sahara, IIRC | 09:41 |
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gmann | basically any plugin should not lead error to other plugins if they do not run that | 09:41 |
gmann | I am checking where we can hadnle that better | 09:42 |
gmann | i will add bug and put fix if i found good | 09:42 |
gmann | thats all on that | 09:42 |
dmellado | I'm working on the neutron tempest plugin | 09:42 |
dmellado | and would appreciate reviews on this | 09:42 |
gmann | dmellado: you want to discuss | 09:42 |
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dmellado | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274023/ | 09:42 |
gmann | dmellado: cool | 09:43 |
dmellado | as there's some stuff already done by amuller but couldn't get him to comment | 09:43 |
dmellado | thanks in advance! | 09:43 |
gmann | dmellado: any issue you are facing or all going fine | 09:43 |
dmellado | just not really sure about the config part | 09:43 |
dmellado | it works, I've tested it but unsure on the integration for the config part | 09:43 |
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gmann | dmellado: ok, you can check other example and ping if still you face issue | 09:44 |
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dmellado | gmann: I followed heat/manila | 09:44 |
gmann | dmellado: main issue i observed for those is if config are register twice | 09:44 |
dmellado | but in this specific case for neutron my doubts are for that | 09:44 |
gmann | dmellado: you have patch up for that? | 09:45 |
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dmellado | gmann: could you comment there? I'll fix and follow with patchsets ;) | 09:45 |
gmann | dmellado: on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/274023/ ? | 09:45 |
dmellado | yep, please | 09:45 |
gmann | dmellado: but that is just adding dir structure | 09:45 |
gmann | no config register i can see | 09:45 |
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dmellado | oh, got a local one | 09:46 |
dmellado | I'll push it and pls comment on the config stuff | 09:46 |
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dmellado | or I can follow-up on the main qa channel | 09:46 |
gmann | dmellado: if you can put up even WIP there i can check | 09:46 |
dmellado | no worries | 09:46 |
gmann | dmellado: sure, Thanks | 09:46 |
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gmann | anything else on Tempest? | 09:46 |
dmellado | nothing from my side ;) | 09:47 |
gmann | ok. let's directly jump to Critical Reviews | 09:47 |
gmann | #topic Critical Reviews | 09:47 |
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gmann | any critical review here? | 09:47 |
gmann | I will add microversion patches again :) | 09:48 |
gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/api-microversions-testing-support+status:open | 09:48 |
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masayukig | gmann: I added me as a reviewer for them :) | 09:49 |
gmann | masayukig: Thanks | 09:49 |
gmann | on base patch, took time on autodoc thing. | 09:49 |
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gmann | finally it was on shape :) | 09:50 |
gmann | good suggestion by mtreinish. | 09:50 |
gmann | #topic open discussion | 09:50 |
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gmann | anything else needs to be discussed from anyone | 09:50 |
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gmann | we still have ~9 min | 09:51 |
dmellado | will there be a bbq at Austin? xD | 09:51 |
gmann | :) | 09:51 |
masayukig | dmellado: nice :) | 09:51 |
dmellado | besides joking, is there any plan to set up a meeting there, like you did at Tokyo? | 09:52 |
gmann | dmellado: nice idea, may be but we can see during summit planing | 09:52 |
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dmellado | cool ;) | 09:53 |
gmann | mainly for AI for PTL (mtreinish ) :P | 09:53 |
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masayukig | dmellado: I think we had like it every summit. | 09:53 |
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gmann | ok. let's close the meeting | 09:54 |
gmann | 3... | 09:54 |
gmann | 2.. | 09:54 |
gmann | 1. | 09:54 |
gmann | Thanks All for joining | 09:54 |
gmann | #endmeeting | 09:54 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 10 09:54:19 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:54 |
jordanP | thanks | 09:54 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-03-10-08.59.html | 09:54 |
masayukig | thanks all | 09:54 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-03-10-08.59.txt | 09:54 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-03-10-08.59.log.html | 09:54 |
dmellado | thanks ;) | 09:54 |
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johnthetubaguy | #startmeeting Nova | 14:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 10 14:00:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Nova)" | 14:00 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
mriedem | o/ | 14:00 |
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markus_z | O7 | 14:00 |
johnthetubaguy | hello all | 14:00 |
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BobBall | \o/ | 14:00 |
markus_z | o/ | 14:00 |
alex_xu | o/ | 14:00 |
* kashyap waves | 14:00 | |
rdopiera | o/ | 14:00 |
andrearosa | hi | 14:00 |
cdent | o/ | 14:00 |
jichen | o/ | 14:00 |
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johnthetubaguy | I will start cut and pasting, while folks roll in | 14:00 |
edleafe | \o | 14:00 |
johnthetubaguy | #topic Release Status | 14:00 |
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johnthetubaguy | #info Mar 14-18, RC1 target week, Hard String Freeze, open master for Newton | 14:01 |
johnthetubaguy | #link http://docs.openstack.org/releases/schedules/mitaka.html | 14:01 |
PaulMurray | o/ | 14:01 |
* bauzas waves | 14:01 | |
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rlrossit | o/ | 14:01 |
alaski | o/ | 14:01 |
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johnthetubaguy | #info please use the mitaka-rc-potential bug tag if you spot regressions, but issues, etc https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?field.tag=mitaka-rc-potential | 14:01 |
scottda | hi | 14:01 |
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johnthetubaguy | lets try co-ordinate where to focus outside of that bug list in the usual way | 14:02 |
johnthetubaguy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:02 |
johnthetubaguy | cool, any release-ey questions while we are in this bit? | 14:02 |
markus_z | That etherpad has a gerrit query for open patches for "mitaka-rc-blockers". | 14:02 |
johnthetubaguy | basically, I am hoping we can tag on tuesday next week, then open for newton | 14:02 |
mriedem | wow rc1 is next week already | 14:02 |
johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, its crazy tight this time around | 14:03 |
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johnthetubaguy | mriedem: gives us all more practice at backporting bugs to stable | 14:03 |
mriedem | riiight | 14:03 |
BobBall | bug fixes* (hopefully) :D | 14:03 |
johnthetubaguy | BobBall: heh | 14:03 |
markus_z | :) | 14:03 |
sdague | o/ | 14:03 |
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johnthetubaguy | anyways, that sounds like we are all on the same page | 14:04 |
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johnthetubaguy | moving forward | 14:04 |
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johnthetubaguy | #topic bugs | 14:04 |
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mriedem | #link "new" bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New&orderby=-datecreated&start=0 | 14:04 |
markus_z | #info 1 critical bug 1552303 with open change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/287363/ | 14:04 |
openstack | bug 1552303 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Block live migrations are broken when nova calculates live migration type by itself" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1552303 - Assigned to Pawel Koniszewski (pawel-koniszewski) | 14:04 |
johnthetubaguy | markus_z: I was thinking we should nip through the currently tagged bugs, make sure they are all progressing? | 14:04 |
johnthetubaguy | cool, I just -1ed that one, but its progressing | 14:05 |
markus_z | johnthetubaguy: I did 1 hour ago, half has patches half not | 14:05 |
markus_z | http://bit.ly/1pi5yHt | 14:05 |
johnthetubaguy | markus_z: OK, cools | 14:05 |
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markus_z | I can post on the ML with details? | 14:06 |
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johnthetubaguy | markus_z: that works | 14:06 |
johnthetubaguy | so quick thing | 14:06 |
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johnthetubaguy | the top one is a blocker, for sure | 14:07 |
johnthetubaguy | I want to dig into that API one, but we can do that in the API meeting if needed | 14:07 |
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johnthetubaguy | the others seem less like blockers, but they are all things we should try and merge if we can | 14:07 |
mriedem | i don't think https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1549814 is a blocker | 14:07 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1549814 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Metadata caching is fundamentally broken" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Dan Smith (danms) | 14:07 |
markus_z | Ah, the first one got already merged 5 minutes ago | 14:08 |
johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, I think we drop the tag there, given the recent discussion on that one | 14:08 |
johnthetubaguy | OK, so I am happy with that list, I think | 14:08 |
thomasem | Hey there | 14:09 |
johnthetubaguy | OK, so lets move on to the open discussion then | 14:10 |
johnthetubaguy | #topic Open Discussion | 14:10 |
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johnthetubaguy | so I see a note from rdopiera about process | 14:10 |
bauzas | markus_z: in case you want some automatic dash, lemme know, I did that for the NFV dash 1 year before | 14:10 |
johnthetubaguy | rdopiera: did mriedem markus_z and my replies on the ML help with that question? | 14:10 |
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markus_z | bauzas: I'll ping you after the meeting | 14:10 |
bauzas | ack | 14:11 |
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rdopiera | johnthetubaguy: yes, definitely | 14:11 |
johnthetubaguy | rdopiera: cool, it might be worth adding an extra FAQ style entry for your question, if you think that would help others | 14:11 |
johnthetubaguy | so any more burning issues we should discuss | 14:12 |
johnthetubaguy | reno notes are slowing landing I think, bauzas is pushing on lots of those | 14:12 |
johnthetubaguy | we should get those in before we tag, ideally | 14:12 |
johnthetubaguy | oh, python-novaclient | 14:12 |
rdopiera | johnthetubaguy: it might be worth to mark them somehow, because they are usually also easy to review, so reviewers might want them | 14:12 |
bauzas | I need to review again | 14:12 |
johnthetubaguy | #info dhellmann is going to create the stable branch for python-novaclient | 14:12 |
rdopiera | johnthetubaguy: using the 'refactor' word in the title sounds like a good idea | 14:13 |
johnthetubaguy | well, his team, and their scripts, but anyways, sounds like thats all happening | 14:13 |
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rdopiera | oops, sorry, slow typing | 14:13 |
johnthetubaguy | rdopiera: that could work, similar to the trivalpatch tag, have another one for refactoring | 14:13 |
dhellmann | johnthetubaguy : as part of creating the branch, we'll also push a change to add a "mitaka" page to your release notes. It should be another easy review. | 14:13 |
johnthetubaguy | dhellmann: awesome, sounds good, I saw the note on the need to review the output of that carefully | 14:14 |
dhellmann | yeah, whitespace is hard | 14:14 |
johnthetubaguy | dhellmann: ack! | 14:14 |
mriedem | what's the link to the reno etherpad again for nova? | 14:15 |
mriedem | bauzas: ^ | 14:15 |
bauzas | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-milestone-reno | 14:15 |
johnthetubaguy | ah, so good point | 14:16 |
johnthetubaguy | if you find a patch thats a blocker, like reno, but not a bug | 14:16 |
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johnthetubaguy | there is a section in here | 14:16 |
johnthetubaguy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:16 |
mriedem | bauzas: does "New notes since the last milestone" mean those are already done? | 14:16 |
johnthetubaguy | #info please put any blocker patches in here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:16 |
bauzas | mriedem: I just provided those to make sure people can look at them | 14:17 |
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bauzas | mriedem: but sometimes we could be thinking one reno note is missing, but someone already provided a follow-up patch adding the reno file | 14:17 |
mriedem | yeah | 14:17 |
johnthetubaguy | cool | 14:18 |
johnthetubaguy | thanks all | 14:18 |
bauzas | mriedem: that said, I need to modify the etherpad, some calls are bad (still using m-2) | 14:18 |
johnthetubaguy | I will let you all get back to reviewing those critical mitaka patches! | 14:18 |
johnthetubaguy | so I should do a call out about that | 14:19 |
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johnthetubaguy | #help if you added code that had a release note, please double check we have the reno note in place | 14:20 |
johnthetubaguy | thanks | 14:20 |
johnthetubaguy | #endmeeting | 14:20 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 10 14:20:17 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:20 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-03-10-14.00.html | 14:20 |
openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-03-10-14.00.txt | 14:20 |
openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-03-10-14.00.log.html | 14:20 |
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gordc | #startmeeting telemetry | 15:00 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 10 15:00:32 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gordc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'telemetry' | 15:00 |
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ildikov | o/ | 15:01 |
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sileht | o/ | 15:01 |
liusheng | o/ | 15:01 |
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_nadya__ | o/ | 15:02 |
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pradk_ | o/ | 15:02 |
gordc | cool let's go | 15:02 |
r-mibu | o/ | 15:02 |
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gordc | #topic recurring: roadmap items (new/old/blockers) | 15:02 |
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gordc | from what i'm tracking. all our FFE items are merged. | 15:02 |
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gordc | both the timestamp delta transformer and tempest | 15:03 |
gordc | r-mibu: thanks for the effort | 15:03 |
r-mibu | np :) | 15:03 |
gordc | r-mibu: do you have plans to enable it in gate? | 15:03 |
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r-mibu | not yet | 15:03 |
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r-mibu | but will try it before the summit | 15:03 |
gordc | r-mibu: ok. but from code POV. all is complete? | 15:04 |
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ityaptin | Hi! | 15:04 |
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r-mibu | yes as migrate existing code from tempest | 15:04 |
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gordc | r-mibu: cool cool. good to hear. i guess we can close the bps for now then. | 15:04 |
r-mibu | now, we can enhance test cases | 15:04 |
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r-mibu | yep, i already closed bps on launchpad today | 15:05 |
gordc | r-mibu: yeah, it'll be alot easier now that we can manage the tests ourselves | 15:05 |
gordc | r-mibu: perfect! | 15:05 |
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idegtiarov_ | o? | 15:05 |
idegtiarov_ | o/ | 15:05 |
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gordc | #topic mitaka blockers | 15:06 |
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gordc | any blockers we should be aware of based on testing so far? | 15:06 |
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r-mibu | qq, should we remove deprecated codes and options? | 15:06 |
gordc | (also if you do find high/critical issues, feel free to raise to list as well) | 15:06 |
gordc | r-mibu: it depends | 15:07 |
gordc | r-mibu: deprecation policy means we need to keep it for at least one fully cycle | 15:07 |
r-mibu | ok, i have conern about alarming function | 15:07 |
gordc | r-mibu: what do you want to remove? | 15:07 |
r-mibu | not all major installers are ready to aodh | 15:07 |
sileht | ceilometer-alarm ? | 15:08 |
r-mibu | yep | 15:08 |
gordc | that is already gone... | 15:08 |
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r-mibu | lol | 15:08 |
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sileht | :D | 15:08 |
r-mibu | ok, never mind | 15:08 |
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gordc | r-mibu: i believe rdo is still using ceilometer-alarms? pradk_ ? | 15:09 |
sileht | gordc, yes I think | 15:09 |
pradk_ | gordc, well packstack now supports aodh | 15:09 |
pradk_ | gordc, tripleo support in progress | 15:09 |
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gordc | r-mibu: in this case, i feel like it's above and beyond support. if you don't want to move to Aodh, you probably need to get support elsewhere. | 15:10 |
r-mibu | it's ok, i want to move to aodh | 15:10 |
r-mibu | event-alarm :) | 15:10 |
gordc | tbh, i don't want slow down upstream dev to support downstream requirements. | 15:11 |
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gordc | r-mibu: sounds good | 15:11 |
r-mibu | i just want to drop ceilo-alarm without fights ;-p | 15:11 |
gordc | :) | 15:11 |
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gordc | cdent has a speech about upstream supporting downstream | 15:12 |
gordc | no fights needed. | 15:12 |
cdent | it's not a speech | 15:12 |
cdent | it's a screed | 15:12 |
ildikov | it was deprected for Liberty already IIRC | 15:13 |
liusheng | should we still recommend ceilometerclient as alarming client this release ? | 15:13 |
ildikov | we can always use this as an excuse | 15:13 |
gordc | ildikov: yep | 15:13 |
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gordc | liusheng: err... possibly? i haven't tested aodhclient much yet. | 15:14 |
gordc | liusheng: what are you thoughts? | 15:14 |
gordc | do you think aodhclient is ready or do you think big changes will still happen? | 15:14 |
ildikov | gordc: what about Heat? | 15:15 |
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gordc | ildikov: it's still on ceilometerclient. the switch was way too big when i tried to apply aodhclient | 15:15 |
liusheng | gordc: I agree, I am worry the upstream applications don't adapt the aodhclient now :( | 15:15 |
sileht | heat still use ceilometerclient, so we need to deprecated quickly to inform haet to move the aodhclient | 15:15 |
gordc | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284985/ | 15:16 |
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sileht | gordc, woot ! | 15:16 |
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gordc | sileht: i gave up on it. just fyi.lol | 15:16 |
ildikov | it seems we need to stick with ceilometerclient for now | 15:16 |
gordc | _nadya__: do you still plan on taking it over? | 15:16 |
_nadya__ | gordc: yep, I plan | 15:16 |
gordc | ildikov: yeah :( | 15:16 |
ildikov | gordc: agreed on :( | 15:16 |
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liusheng | since there are different usages between ceilometerclient and aodhclient | 15:17 |
gordc | sileht: you can have a look at the patch (i was kind of guessing and replacing s/ceilometer/aodh/) | 15:18 |
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sileht | gordc, the patch looks hudge | 15:18 |
gordc | liusheng: yeah, so i guess we need to keep ceilometerclient around for now. | 15:18 |
gordc | sileht: it is. that's why i gave up on trying for Mitaka. | 15:18 |
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gordc | sileht: also, i wasn't exactly sure what i was doing.lol | 15:19 |
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sileht | gordc, I known, we are all developers | 15:19 |
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liusheng | I also mean not only heat as the alarm users :) | 15:19 |
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gordc | sileht: lol | 15:20 |
gordc | liusheng: right. so yeah, i guess officially keep using ceilometerclient but you can start trying aodhclient. | 15:20 |
gordc | liusheng: we will need to tag aodhclient as well. is the latest release ok for mitaka or do you want to wait for something? | 15:21 |
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liusheng | gordc: nothing, I just concern | 15:22 |
gordc | liusheng: kk. not a big deal since nothing is dependent on it right now | 15:23 |
gordc | any other dicussion items for Mitaka? | 15:23 |
ildikov | I will check the install guide as well | 15:23 |
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gordc | just an fyi, i'm taking the latest releases of ceilometermiddleware and ceiloemterclient as stable/mitaka | 15:24 |
ildikov | I saw aodhclient package for SUSE for instance, but I will add a note that it is not fully functional yet | 15:24 |
gordc | ildikov: cool cool. i wonder what release they built from | 15:24 |
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gordc | 0.1.0 and 0.2.0 i believe are missing a good chunk of functionality | 15:24 |
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ildikov | gordc: that's a good question, I will try to check that as well | 15:25 |
gordc | kk. | 15:25 |
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gordc | #topic open discussion | 15:26 |
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gordc | just an fyi, openstack math says we're diverse (for now): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289283/ | 15:27 |
gordc | that's all i have. will close this in a few if we're all happy | 15:28 |
gordc | thanks folks. | 15:29 |
ildikov | good to know we're diverse :) | 15:29 |
_nadya__ | what? | 15:29 |
liusheng | thanks | 15:29 |
_nadya__ | what doest it mean for us? | 15:29 |
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gordc | _nadya__: it just means we have more than 2 companies contributing? it's just numbers for managers to do very very high-level review of projects | 15:30 |
ildikov | _nadya__: I doubt it would mean too much in practice | 15:30 |
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_nadya__ | ook :) | 15:31 |
gordc | cool cool. keep on testing folks. | 15:31 |
gordc | #endmeeting | 15:31 |
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openstack | Meeting ended Thu Mar 10 15:31:32 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:31 |
openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/telemetry/2016/telemetry.2016-03-10-15.00.html | 15:31 |
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rtheis | osc meeting time? | 19:01 |
jichen | o/ | 19:02 |
singhj | o/ | 19:03 |
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terrylhowe | o/ | 19:04 |
brad_behle | o/ | 19:05 |
dtroyer | Heyo | 19:06 |
dtroyer | #startmeeting openstackclient | 19:06 |
openstack | Meeting started Thu Mar 10 19:06:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dtroyer. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:06 |
openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:06 |
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: openstackclient)" | 19:06 | |
openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstackclient' | 19:06 |
dtroyer | looks like a good turnout so far, let's get started... | 19:06 |
dtroyer | #topic reviews | 19:07 |
*** openstack changes topic to "reviews (Meeting topic: openstackclient)" | 19:07 | |
dtroyer | There has been a good bit of activity this week, any specific reviews that need highlighting? | 19:07 |
rtheis | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290785/ is good for team awareness | 19:08 |
rtheis | thanks dtroyer | 19:08 |
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dtroyer | I added the rest that I wrote lastnight before 'quickdraw' stevemar did his edits... | 19:09 |
rtheis | nice | 19:09 |
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dtroyer | so there is anow a general section too that should just show what we currently do | 19:09 |
dtroyer | a new*** | 19:09 |
dtroyer | I think we need to keep doing these docs as the tribal knowledge is exposed with all of the newer contributions | 19:10 |
dtroyer | which, btw, is fantastic! | 19:10 |
rtheis | I agree | 19:10 |
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dtroyer | I'm hoping to even write some code again soon ;) | 19:11 |
dtroyer | ok, I'll throw out one thing that I brought up in the last day or so | 19:11 |
rtheis | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/290138/ ... this is still a WIP but I was interested in opinions on the command object name. It is currently "segment" but am considering a change to "network segment". | 19:12 |
dtroyer | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288441/ and another? review around 'ip floating' work | 19:12 |
dtroyer | (will come back to mine, reading rtheis comment) | 19:12 |
dtroyer | that needs a deeper read, but yeah, I think 'network segment' is a clearer resource name | 19:13 |
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rtheis | dtroyer: thanks | 19:14 |
dtroyer | that create command may take some thinking too ;) | 19:14 |
rtheis | yeah, neutron team is still working out API details. | 19:15 |
dtroyer | so this is totally new? | 19:15 |
rtheis | yes | 19:15 |
rtheis | REST API is still a WIP | 19:15 |
dtroyer | request #1 - don't allow the user to specify the ID (similar to how flavors work) | 19:15 |
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dtroyer | I say that because —segmenetation-id looks liek it might be that? | 19:16 |
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rtheis | I think I need to change the name on that since it isn't a resource UUID | 19:16 |
dtroyer | I wondered if I misunderstood what it was... | 19:17 |
rtheis | it is a vlan ID when vlan used | 19:17 |
dtroyer | but thanks, the ability to suss out the CLI when the REST API is still in development is nice, we can hopefully make it better from a user perspecive early on | 19:17 |
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rtheis | neutron team will probably want this command in python-neutronclient as an OSC plugin ... which I'm looking at now | 19:18 |
dtroyer | uh, we don't use neutronclient and I don't want to re-add it. | 19:19 |
dtroyer | but yeah, a plugin should work ok | 19:19 |
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dtroyer | any more there? | 19:20 |
rtheis | nothing else | 19:20 |
dtroyer | back to https://review.openstack.org/#/c/288441/ then | 19:20 |
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dtroyer | I remarked in that review, or the other one I can't find ATM about how the 'ip floating' (and ip fixed too) resources are poorly formed commands | 19:21 |
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* dtroyer did that early one | 19:21 | |
rtheis | here's the other https://review.openstack.org/#/c/262397 | 19:22 |
dtroyer | I think we should go ahead and fix what needs fixing with them, we need to maintain compatability, but this might be a case where we re-implement them as 'floating ip' and 'fixed ip' with the more consistent comamnd structure | 19:22 |
dtroyer | I didn't want my comments to seem like we shouldn't move forward here | 19:22 |
dtroyer | it does raise the situation where we might want to look at command aliases again | 19:23 |
dtroyer | but in this case I want to change the arguements | 19:24 |
rtheis | ip floating delete, list and show refactors have merged already ... did you want to back those out? | 19:25 |
dtroyer | no, we should finish that work | 19:25 |
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dtroyer | but changes, such as making pool optional, should wait | 19:25 |
dtroyer | there are a couple of things in those commands I did wrong initially | 19:25 |
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rtheis | ok, so keep the refactor going but save incompatible changes for re-implemented commands ? | 19:27 |
dtroyer | yes | 19:27 |
rtheis | sure | 19:27 |
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rtheis | apply new commands to network and compute or just network | 19:28 |
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dtroyer | both | 19:28 |
rtheis | ok | 19:28 |
dtroyer | we'll be supporting nova-net for some time yet | 19:29 |
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dtroyer | when the refactor is complete, I'll take a stab at the new parser configuration… | 19:29 |
rtheis | the release notes for the refactor claim that Command ``ip floating delete`` is now available for neutron network. | 19:29 |
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rtheis | similar for list and show | 19:29 |
rtheis | did these not work for neutron before...I haven't tried | 19:30 |
dtroyer | I thought they had not been implemented yet | 19:30 |
rtheis | Not with direct calls to neutron, but wasn't sure if they were pass through nova to neutron like security groups | 19:31 |
dtroyer | I think they were | 19:32 |
rtheis | ok | 19:32 |
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dtroyer | any other reviews to talk about? | 19:33 |
dtroyer | ok, how about… | 19:34 |
dtroyer | #topic bugs | 19:34 |
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rtheis | I think it would be good to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1554302 | 19:35 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1554302 in python-openstackclient "Error message improvement in OSC commands" [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Tang Chen (tangchen) | 19:35 |
rtheis | Tang noted that he hasn't found a way to improve it in the bug description | 19:36 |
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dtroyer | yes, we rely too much on the exception-from-HTTP-resposnse | 19:36 |
dtroyer | this is another reason I wrote up that doc about command errors | 19:36 |
rtheis | curious if anyone has ideas on how to fix | 19:36 |
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dtroyer | it'll take a bit of work to create the list of exceptions/error messages to look for | 19:37 |
singhj | what are some other instances when that error is returned? | 19:37 |
dtroyer | and is complicated by the non-standard way many errors are returned…ie, they are not specified in the APi and are subject to change | 19:37 |
singhj | I know that the extensions missing case is one | 19:37 |
dtroyer | the API WG has spent time with trying to nail error handling down a bit at the REST level, we would benefit greatly from services doing that | 19:38 |
dtroyer | I do think, though, a generic bug like this isn't so useful…how do we know when it is closed? | 19:38 |
rtheis | If we focus on network case, there is often error message details available | 19:39 |
dtroyer | Jas, the extensions missing is another example of where we need to add specific error handling in commands | 19:39 |
rtheis | neutronclient will extract those | 19:39 |
dtroyer | right, but they are subject to change IIRC, they are not considered part of the API contract | 19:39 |
dtroyer | we can best-effort those, and that's about it for now | 19:40 |
rtheis | ok | 19:40 |
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dtroyer | when we do, we should put a copy of the reference error message in a comment so if/when it changes we know what was used to generate the detection code | 19:40 |
dtroyer | this is something else that should go in that doc I proposed yesterday, once we sor tit out | 19:41 |
rtheis | +1 | 19:42 |
singhj | so you guys are planning to map the returned messages with something the user will get? | 19:42 |
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dtroyer | When the response from the server isn't so useful to the end user, yes | 19:43 |
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dtroyer | and we have a lot of that right now | 19:43 |
dtroyer | it varies per service since they mostly vary to some degree | 19:44 |
dtroyer | in other bug news, I'm going to combine https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1554892 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-openstackclient/+bug/1554893, this is just breaking things apart too far. plus, it should be part of the volume blueprint | 19:46 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1554892 in python-openstackclient "Add support for Un-manage Volume(Stop managing a volume) " [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Sheel Rana (ranasheel2000) | 19:46 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1554893 in python-openstackclient "Add support for manage volume functionality" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Sheel Rana (ranasheel2000) | 19:46 |
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rtheis | sounds good | 19:46 |
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dtroyer | any others? | 19:47 |
rtheis | nothing else from me | 19:47 |
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dtroyer | #open discussion | 19:49 |
dtroyer | #topic open discussion | 19:49 |
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* dtroyer irc-command-fail | 19:49 | |
dtroyer | What else shanll we talk about? | 19:49 |
* dtroyer spelling-fail too | 19:49 | |
rtheis | http://logs.openstack.org/75/286275/7/check/check-osc-plugins/b23e206/console.html ... "Some commands overlap..." is the error for check-ose-plugins job | 19:50 |
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dtroyer | good grief | 19:50 |
rtheis | stevemar ^ | 19:50 |
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rtheis | wondering about stevemar's plan on how we should resolve these errors | 19:51 |
dtroyer | they detect errors in other repos | 19:51 |
rtheis | I wasn't sure who to contact | 19:51 |
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dtroyer | and I see some that look like they really don't follow our reccommended structure | 19:52 |
dtroyer | I think the error message there could be more helpful | 19:52 |
rtheis | yeah | 19:52 |
dtroyer | that might make a nice afternoon diversion | 19:52 |
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dtroyer | I also think there is a limit to how far we can expect to police outside commands like this | 19:53 |
dtroyer | time to re-draw the layer map and make a cutoff maybe? | 19:53 |
rtheis | possibly, yes. When I get some time, I'll try looking into the error | 19:55 |
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dtroyer | anything else? | 19:56 |
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rtheis | nothing else from me | 19:56 |
singhj | for the extension error message issue, I had some ideas | 19:56 |
dtroyer | ok | 19:57 |
singhj | maybe keep track of which options need which extension | 19:58 |
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singhj | and upon error, check if required extensions exist | 19:58 |
singhj | via client.find_extension(ext) | 19:58 |
dtroyer | keeping track is a great idea | 19:58 |
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dtroyer | what do you do different though if the extenion exists but there was a failire? | 19:59 |
rtheis | singhj: related code that may help here: https://github.com/openstack/python-openstackclient/blob/master/openstackclient/common/availability_zone.py#L151 | 19:59 |
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singhj | well I was planning to catch the exception locally and checking and then just raising it up again if it weren't the reason | 19:59 |
dtroyer | ah, yes, ok | 19:59 |
rtheis | singhj: you could also check the extension if the option was specified to know before making the request | 20:00 |
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dtroyer | I think I'd rather handle the error and incur the overhead only then rather than on every call | 20:01 |
rtheis | as long as users have access to list extensions | 20:01 |
dtroyer | we're at time…continue in -sdks? | 20:01 |
dtroyer | #endmeeting | 20:01 |
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armax | yoyo | 21:59 |
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carl_baldwin | yoyo | 21:59 |
armax | dougwig, kevinbenton, amotoki, carl_baldwin, HenryG, mestery | 22:00 |
armax | hi | 22:00 |
dougwig | o/ | 22:00 |
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armax | is there appetite for a (quick) drivers team? | 22:00 |
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ihrachys | o/ | 22:00 |
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armax | ihrachys: you’re gonna age really quickly! | 22:00 |
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armax | or at least hope you’re not an early bird | 22:01 |
kevinbenton | \o | 22:01 |
kevinbenton | o/ | 22:01 |
armax | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 22:01 |
amuller | hiho | 22:01 |
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dougwig | sure | 22:01 |
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njohnston | o/ | 22:01 |
armax | ok, before we dive in | 22:01 |
armax | a brief announcement | 22:01 |
armax | mestery has decided to step down due to other committments | 22:02 |
armax | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/464,members | 22:02 |
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kevinbenton | :'( | 22:02 |
armax | we all hail to Cesar | 22:02 |
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armax | praise his legacy | 22:02 |
carl_baldwin | :( | 22:02 |
dougwig | from drivers, core, release manager, ? | 22:02 |
dougwig | neutron? | 22:02 |
armax | this comes at a good time | 22:02 |
armax | dougwig: don’t freak out | 22:02 |
armax | just the drivers team | 22:03 |
dougwig | no, it was just a question. :) | 22:03 |
armax | for now, I guess anyway | 22:03 |
kevinbenton | oh, good | 22:03 |
armax | sorry, I posted a link | 22:03 |
kevinbenton | i thought he was quitting everything | 22:03 |
armax | to the drivers team | 22:03 |
armax | I would not make that announcement here now would I? | 22:03 |
armax | come on guys | 22:03 |
armax | be sharp! | 22:03 |
armax | :) | 22:03 |
dougwig | oh, it's our fault you were unclear. i see. :) | 22:03 |
kevinbenton | well if it was from everything this would be a good place to announce it anyway :) | 22:03 |
armax | :) | 22:03 |
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armax | mestery has decided to step down from the drivers team due to other committments | 22:04 |
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kevinbenton | :'( | 22:04 |
armax | better? | 22:04 |
dougwig | much | 22:04 |
jreeves | precision is a virtue | 22:05 |
ihrachys | breaking change. someone please revert. | 22:05 |
carl_baldwin | Still not good news but not as bad | 22:05 |
armax | someone goes another one comes | 22:05 |
armax | we’ll look into extending the team | 22:05 |
kevinbenton | i would like to nominate armax | 22:05 |
armax | and if any of you on the drivers team as of today wants to take a leave of absence | 22:06 |
armax | please reach out to me | 22:06 |
* armax too | 22:06 | |
kevinbenton | ack | 22:06 |
armax | bear in mind that if the drivers team dries up, this means we switchs to bug fixes | 22:06 |
armax | and no longer accept features :) | 22:06 |
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armax | I leave you to figure out whether I am kidding or not | 22:07 |
dougwig | i've lost the ability to tell when you're kidding. | 22:07 |
armax | I am coy that way | 22:07 |
kevinbenton | dougwig: i think armax has too | 22:07 |
armax | kevinbenton: PTL-dom does that to you | 22:08 |
armax | anyhoo | 22:08 |
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armax | one thing I wanted to mention today was handling deprecation of config variables and behavior in a way that’s more trackable | 22:09 |
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armax | right now the process is pretty loose | 22:09 |
armax | in that we may decide to issue a deprecation warning, we usually follow up one/two cycles for removal | 22:10 |
armax | we release note etc | 22:10 |
armax | and we sometimes reach out for operator/user feedback | 22:11 |
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armax | but it’s difficult right to see really quickly what we decided to deprecate in any given cycle and what countermeasure we provide | 22:11 |
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amuller | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291360/ | 22:12 |
armax | amuller: attaboy | 22:12 |
armax | you must have though: ‘dude get to the point' | 22:12 |
amuller | :) | 22:12 |
armax | thought | 22:13 |
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dougwig | as someone who recently upgraded a cloud from juno -> kilo -> liberty, i will add that we openstack devs deprecate config flags WAY TOO FRIGGING OFTEN. it's a royal pain. | 22:13 |
armax | but that’s only the first step | 22:13 |
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armax | right, and we need to manage the communication and feedback a little better | 22:13 |
dougwig | and avoid just doing it for cosmetic reason. | 22:14 |
armax | we were almost dropping the ball on this one | 22:14 |
armax | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1502356 | 22:14 |
openstack | Launchpad bug 1502356 in neutron "max_fixed_ips_per_port appears to be unnecessary" [Low,Fix released] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 22:14 |
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armax | and I stumbled upon it by ‘accident’ | 22:14 |
armax | now we’re still trying to figure out what to do on this one, but for starter this didn’t have a release note | 22:14 |
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kevinbenton | release notes didn't exist | 22:14 |
armax | kevinbenton: they did | 22:15 |
armax | kevinbenton: it’s mitaka | 22:15 |
kevinbenton | only in an abstract sense :) | 22:15 |
armax | kevinbenton: and reno was already in place | 22:15 |
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ihrachys | kevinbenton: then that should have been partial fix ;) | 22:15 |
armax | kevinbenton: I am not blaming you | 22:15 |
armax | kevinbenton: we are only human | 22:15 |
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armax | kevinbenton: we’re bound to make mistakes, that’s why we have code janitors and trivial fixers | 22:15 |
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kevinbenton | https://github.com/openstack/neutron/commit/271d3c1faed1103cc7489323728edaa037709e0d | 22:16 |
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kevinbenton | i request the court heretoforth read the commit date | 22:16 |
armax | and I think that in the best possible way | 22:16 |
kevinbenton | on said patch | 22:16 |
kevinbenton | and then the merge date of this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/230696/ | 22:16 |
kevinbenton | :) | 22:16 |
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kevinbenton | I PLEAD THE 5TH! | 22:17 |
armax | kevinbenton: dude, no-one is putting you to trial! | 22:17 |
armax | :) | 22:17 |
amuller | kevinbenton: I think the 5th was removed from the stadium | 22:17 |
armax | kevinbenton: you’re the one pleading guilty with all this fuss! | 22:17 |
armax | :) | 22:17 |
armax | I am only taking that as an example | 22:17 |
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njohnston | If the gate fits, you must commit! | 22:18 |
kevinbenton | njohnston: ha! | 22:18 |
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armax | what counts is that we got this in time | 22:18 |
kevinbenton | ihrachys: whoops, forgot to add the docimpact | 22:18 |
kevinbenton | :) | 22:18 |
armax | so kevinbenton you’re guilty and charged if you don’t follow up now! | 22:18 |
kevinbenton | armax: but release notes didn't exist. i think there is something that says you can't be charged for something that wasn't illegal when you did it! | 22:19 |
armax | you did add the it | 22:19 |
ihrachys | kevinbenton: not that one; you actually added docimpact | 22:19 |
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* kevinbenton will write a release note for this | 22:19 | |
armax | am I talking jibberish? | 22:19 |
* dougwig wonders when the yak shaving about reno merging will stop. | 22:19 | |
* carl_baldwin notes this still sounds like a trial but it shouldn't. | 22:19 | |
armax | it clearly isn’t :) | 22:20 |
armax | I seek your opinion on the matter | 22:20 |
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armax | and I wonder if you think that closing a potential loophole is worth pursuing | 22:21 |
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carl_baldwin | I think that providing better communication and avoiding dropping the ball is good. | 22:22 |
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armax | we need to figure out a sane way to do that, but that’s the intention | 22:23 |
dougwig | knowing kevin, he's probably writing the reno patch right now rather than talking about it. | 22:23 |
armax | most likely | 22:23 |
amuller | armax: did you have a process in mind? | 22:24 |
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armax | I haven’t formulated one yet, but I think it would go down like this | 22:24 |
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armax | we’ll have period checks/updates (on a per-milestone basis?) on what’s been deprecated/removed in any given cycle | 22:25 |
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armax | I’ll put together a script to pull this stuff from gerrit and launchpad | 22:26 |
amuller | just using the launchpad API, assuming we have the deprecation tag in place | 22:26 |
amuller | ? | 22:26 |
armax | amuller: right | 22:26 |
amuller | then send an email to openstack-operators with the list? | 22:26 |
armax | yes, and watching the bug reports for feedback too | 22:26 |
armax | in case it shows up there | 22:26 |
amuller | I think that's more than reasonable, it's a pretty light weight process | 22:27 |
armax | ihrachys: so let’s figure out how to integrate this in your patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291288/ | 22:27 |
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armax | let’s all praise ihrachys for starting this by the way | 22:27 |
armax | ihrachys: or I can simply follow up | 22:28 |
ihrachys | armax: you are absolutely welcome to do while I will maybe sleep | 22:28 |
amuller | ihrachys++ | 22:28 |
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armax | am I, aren’t I? | 22:28 |
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armax | :) | 22:28 |
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armax | I did expand on deputy duties already here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291361/ | 22:29 |
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armax | ihrachys: people don’t seem to like you | 22:30 |
armax | only amuller praised | 22:30 |
armax | ihrachys: sorry | 22:30 |
ihrachys | armax: that's ok, they are just too shy of my magnificence | 22:30 |
armax | ihrachys: it might be it | 22:30 |
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carl_baldwin | attaboy ihrachys | 22:31 |
armax | ok, one more thing I had in mind before I let you get back to your busy lives | 22:31 |
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armax | does anyone of you have an update on rossella_s’ script to pull up a release dashboard? | 22:31 |
ihrachys | I remember she was working on getting it hosted and triggered in infra | 22:32 |
armax | last time I recall infra gave us a mechanism to publish the dashboard periodically | 22:32 |
armax | ihrachys: can I get a status update? | 22:32 |
armax | rossella_s: ^ | 22:32 |
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ihrachys | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/284281/ | 22:32 |
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armax | cool, I’ll dig into it | 22:32 |
armax | thanks ihrachys | 22:32 |
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ihrachys | I don't have details, but I guess we wait for that to merge | 22:33 |
armax | understood | 22:33 |
ihrachys | your weight in infra circles may help to get it in ;) | 22:33 |
armax | then we can make changes to the script that generates the dashboard and everything works automagically? | 22:33 |
dougwig | i've still got it hosted in the meantime. | 22:33 |
armax | thanks dougwig | 22:33 |
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ihrachys | armax: probably. honestly, we better ask Rossella ;) I can get to her with that when she comes here to Brno on Mon :) | 22:34 |
armax | ihrachys: sure | 22:35 |
armax | ok, I have nothing else on my plate | 22:35 |
dougwig | that dashboard in infra will be nice going forward. | 22:36 |
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armax | yup | 22:36 |
armax | remember that next week we’ll cut RC1 | 22:36 |
armax | so if there’s anything critical to be released | 22:37 |
dougwig | after that, COKE1, then PEPSI1 | 22:37 |
* dougwig goes back into his hole. | 22:37 | |
armax | please scrub your gerrit/launchpad dashboards | 22:37 |
armax | to make sure we have nothing that falls through the cracks | 22:37 |
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armax | dougwig: come back | 22:37 |
armax | anything else? | 22:38 |
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carl_baldwin | Not from me. Anxious to go scrub. | 22:38 |
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armax | one | 22:38 |
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armax | two | 22:39 |
armax | three | 22:39 |
armax | bye then | 22:39 |
armax | #endmeeting | 22:39 |
ihrachys | ciao | 22:39 |
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amuller | tata | 22:39 |
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