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| dhellmann | courtesy ping: ttx, dims, lifeless | 14:01 |
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| ttx | o/ | 14:02 |
| dhellmann | #startmeeting releaseteam | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Mar 18 14:02:10 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dhellmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 14:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 14:02 |
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| dhellmann | our agenda is under R-3 on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mitaka-release-tracking | 14:02 |
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| dhellmann | #topic Missing managed RC1s and clients | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Missing managed RC1s and clients (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 14:03 | |
| dhellmann | these are highlighted with a red background on the spreadsheet | 14:03 |
| dhellmann | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BLUDgediqgOzLZMMe8a3EAPOtyINAg2rpMtSyWjhC4o/edit#gid=0 | 14:03 |
| ttx | so we seem to have a status update on the managed ones, except manila | 14:03 |
| dhellmann | yes | 14:03 |
| dhellmann | bswartz : are you around? | 14:03 |
| ttx | we can come back to that | 14:04 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 14:04 |
| ttx | it's relatively limited in number | 14:04 |
| dhellmann | #topic Missing non-managed RC1s and intermediary refreshes | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Missing non-managed RC1s and intermediary refreshes (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 14:04 | |
| dhellmann | these have the orange background in the spreadsheet | 14:04 |
| dhellmann | we have a few more that haven't checked in yet | 14:05 |
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| ttx | I did not put any orange background on stuff which are new and never released in mitaka (think: cloudkitty) | 14:05 |
| ttx | if those miss they will just be ignored and it doesn't really reflect badly on us | 14:06 |
| dhellmann | #action dhellmann track down thinrichs daemontool sergmelikyan and TravT | 14:06 |
| ttx | the others unformatunately are on the train already | 14:06 |
| ttx | unfortunately | 14:06 |
| ttx | and would make us look bad if they missed | 14:06 |
| dhellmann | yes | 14:06 |
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| dhellmann | I wonder how many of the cycle-with-intermediary projects think they're done? | 14:07 |
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| ttx | maybe they are but they should tell us | 14:07 |
| ttx | so that we cut early branches :) | 14:07 |
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| dhellmann | yes, I'll work on tracking them down today | 14:07 |
| ttx | dhellmann: near the bottom of the file... a few I wanted to ask about | 14:07 |
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| dhellmann | I wasn't worrying too much about the unmanaged list | 14:08 |
| ttx | python-aodhclient python-congressclient | 14:08 |
| ttx | python-monascaclient python-searchlightclient | 14:08 |
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| ttx | python-solumclient | 14:08 |
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| ttx | those have some mitaka release | 14:08 |
| ttx | should we just cut stable branches ? We are way past deadline | 14:08 |
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| ttx | os-win is also probably ready to cut | 14:09 |
| dhellmann | have you tried to contact any of them? I heard from gordc about aodh a little while ago | 14:09 |
| ttx | no, just highlighted them, we can spread the load of nagging | 14:10 |
| dhellmann | it's hard to un-create the stable branch so I don't think we want to do it without an ack from the team | 14:10 |
| ttx | just wanted to make sure the spreadsheet was current on those | 14:10 |
| dhellmann | however, if they don't get a release out in time, we wouldn't create a branch from a late release | 14:10 |
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| ttx | So the current plan there is to create branch on release week | 14:10 |
| ttx | we could totally just wait and do that | 14:11 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 14:11 |
| ttx | maybe just send a reminder that we'll just take what is tagged on release week, no more warnings | 14:11 |
| ttx | and that they can contact us if they want to open newton earlier | 14:11 |
| dhellmann | I haven't heard from some of these folks at all, so I'm not sure they're reading the emails, but yeah | 14:11 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: maybe personal | 14:12 |
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| dhellmann | we need to prepare the patch to remove tagging and branching rights | 14:12 |
| dhellmann | ttx; yeah | 14:12 |
| ttx | dhellmann: that way we limit nagging to the "managed" stuff | 14:12 |
| dhellmann | if we don't want any of these folks creating releases and branches after the deadline, we need to make it so they can't | 14:12 |
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| dhellmann | I think we've heard from all of the managed teams, haven't we? | 14:13 |
| ttx | yes | 14:13 |
| ttx | So we can probably avoid nagging unmanaged/intermediary stuff | 14:13 |
| ttx | Not sure we can avoid nagging on unmanaged/milestones stuff | 14:14 |
| ttx | since they are at b3 and we need a RC1 | 14:14 |
| dhellmann | yeah, I'll poke those teams today | 14:14 |
| ttx | which leads to the next topic | 14:14 |
| dhellmann | #topic stable/mitaka branch for openstack/requirements: wait for managed RC1s ? All RC1s ? | 14:14 |
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| bswartz | dhellmann: here | 14:14 |
| dhellmann | #undo | 14:15 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0xa0765d0> | 14:15 |
| dhellmann | bswartz : we need an rc1 for manila, do you have an eta? | 14:15 |
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| bswartz | dhellmann: there are 9 bugs open -- all have fixes and are being reviewed | 14:15 |
| bswartz | dhellmann: we're hopeful to have something today | 14:15 |
| dhellmann | bswartz : that's a lot | 14:15 |
| dhellmann | bswartz : ok | 14:15 |
| bswartz | I know | 14:15 |
| ttx | we also need a final python-manilaclient -- can we take 1.8.0 and create stable/mitaka from that ? | 14:16 |
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| bswartz | there was 1 bug yesterday | 14:16 |
| bswartz | let me check | 14:16 |
| ttx | bswartz: you can re-release 1.8.1 if that's bugfix only | 14:16 |
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| bswartz | that fix is in the gate now | 14:17 |
| dhellmann | ok, let's wait for that to merge, tag 1.8.1, and branch from there | 14:17 |
| ttx | ok, so let's wait for that and tag 1.9.0 or 1.8.1 ? | 14:17 |
| ttx | ack | 14:17 |
| bswartz | 1.9.0 IMO | 14:17 |
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| dhellmann | the version will depend on the nature of the change | 14:17 |
| bswartz | well wait I'd have to see what 1.8.0 hat | 14:17 |
| bswartz | had | 14:17 |
| dhellmann | it's only 1.9 if there is a feature or requirement | 14:17 |
| bswartz | yeah I'll figure that out and push a tag | 14:18 |
| dhellmann | *requirement change | 14:18 |
| dhellmann | ok | 14:18 |
| bswartz | err push a change to releases repo | 14:18 |
| dhellmann | thanks, bswartz | 14:18 |
| dhellmann | #topic stable/mitaka branch for openstack/requirements: wait for managed RC1s ? All RC1s ? | 14:18 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stable/mitaka branch for openstack/requirements: wait for managed RC1s ? All RC1s ? (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 14:18 | |
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| ttx | so yeah, I was wondering when to pull the trigger | 14:19 |
| dhellmann | ttx: the order for making the branches for requirements, devstack, etc. is in the TODO items in the etherpad | 14:19 |
| dhellmann | it's a little messy because it's spread across 2 weeks | 14:19 |
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| dhellmann | it's on lin 217 | 14:19 |
| ttx | I did move the acl revert to release week | 14:19 |
| dhellmann | I don't know if we need to wait for any more release candidates though? if we know we have a bug-fix release of manila client, for example... | 14:20 |
| ttx | dhellmann: should we wait until all RC1s are done ? Just managed RC1s ? | 14:20 |
| ttx | as long as we freeze requirements I think it's fine | 14:20 |
| ttx | to just create the branch now | 14:20 |
| dhellmann | we can't freeze the requirements if we need to update for bug fixes in libs | 14:21 |
| ttx | and unfreeze once all RC1s are done ? | 14:21 |
| dhellmann | so I think this is really tied to when the libraries are done, isn't it? | 14:21 |
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| ttx | well we can branch, but we have to push library version bumps on both sides if they happen, no ? | 14:21 |
| dhellmann | yeah, true | 14:21 |
| * ttx is looking back at last cycle | 14:22 | |
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| ttx | FF week: enable master/stable check | 14:23 |
| dhellmann | I'd feel pretty good about it if we wait for the manila client release we know we're going to have shortly | 14:23 |
| ttx | R-4: Bump constraints where needed (blocked by last libs) | 14:24 |
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| ttx | R-2: Branch g-r (when all stable branches are done) | 14:24 |
| ttx | R-2: Disable cross-check (lifeless says it's a noop ?) | 14:24 |
| ttx | R-2: Devstack branch | 14:24 |
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| ttx | hmm | 14:25 |
| dhellmann | do we need to do anything explicit for the "master/stable check" this time? | 14:25 |
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| ttx | let me think | 14:26 |
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| ttx | not sure we changed anything there | 14:27 |
| ttx | trying to find the change | 14:27 |
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| ttx | got it | 14:28 |
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| ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/217300/ | 14:29 |
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| ttx | then partially reverted by https://review.openstack.org/#/c/228805/ | 14:29 |
| ttx | Looks like we should have done that a couple weeks ago | 14:30 |
| dhellmann | so those tests are to let us unfreeze master | 14:30 |
| dhellmann | ? | 14:30 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 14:30 |
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| dhellmann | we need a run book. we should work on that next cycle. | 14:30 |
| ttx | allows stable tests to run against stable/master | 14:30 |
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| ttx | ensure we don't break mitaka with updates to global reqs | 14:31 |
| ttx | until we create the requirements branch | 14:31 |
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| dhellmann | so if we go ahead and create the requirements branch, does that do the same thing? | 14:32 |
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| ttx | it does, but we can't create the branch until all stable branches are cut | 14:32 |
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| dhellmann | what prevents that? | 14:33 |
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| ttx | iirc that can put you in a bad spot if you end up bumping requirements | 14:34 |
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| ttx | let's talk to Clark when he gets up | 14:34 |
| dhellmann | ok, good idea | 14:35 |
| ttx | and/or lifeless but it's saturday morning for him | 14:35 |
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| ttx | we'd probably not do anything on Friday evening anyway | 14:35 |
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| dhellmann | true | 14:35 |
| dhellmann | moving on | 14:35 |
| dhellmann | #topic Mitaka progress on constraints / branches / library backwards compat | 14:35 |
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| ttx | so the issue is that currently nothing prevent requirements to land that break stable. When you create the branch it can already be wedged | 14:36 |
| ttx | anyway, let's wait | 14:36 |
| ttx | I added that topic | 14:36 |
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| ttx | Was wondering if you got an update of te changes that were implemented in that area during mitaka, if any | 14:37 |
| dhellmann | no, I need to check in with lifeless on that | 14:37 |
| dhellmann | I haven't seen much action on it in a while, though | 14:37 |
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| ttx | right, I haven't seen anything, wanted to know if that was because I don't pay attention, or because nothing got changed | 14:37 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 14:37 |
| dhellmann | ok, I'll ping him and sachi | 14:38 |
| ttx | ok, let's defer that to until you get a status update from lifeless | 14:38 |
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| dhellmann | #topic importing tags from unmanaged projects | 14:38 |
| dhellmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/V64PwVUePz | 14:38 |
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| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/294594 | 14:39 |
| dhellmann | you mention openstack-ansible in the agenda notes. I guess we should merge their deliverable files. | 14:39 |
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| ttx | yes | 14:40 |
| dhellmann | noted, I'll propose that update today | 14:41 |
| dhellmann | odyssey4me : ^^ | 14:41 |
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| dhellmann | #topic stable/mitaka reviews for managed/milestones projects | 14:41 |
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| ttx | I'll handle the independent things one day, but no hurry there. I just want the mitaka release page to be accurate at this stage | 14:41 |
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| ttx | right, so for milestones-driven things | 14:41 |
| dhellmann | right, I need to add a validation step to check the release model against the directory name | 14:42 |
| ttx | we have ACL control over the changes proposed there, on managed projects | 14:42 |
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| ttx | in theory we should make sure that all changes merges on stable/mitaka is first merged on master, to avoid regressions | 14:42 |
| dhellmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/branch:stable/mitaka+is:open | 14:43 |
| ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/branch:stable/mitaka | 14:43 |
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| dhellmann | I'll scan that list today | 14:44 |
| * dhellmann may end up working tomorrow, since he's out monday and tuesday | 14:44 | |
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| ttx | so my question was, how much attention do we want to spend on that | 14:44 |
| ttx | vs. trusting the ptl | 14:44 |
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| ttx | who also has +2 on that | 14:45 |
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| dhellmann | I'll scan it quickly, but I think it should be safe to trust the PTLs. Maybe an email remindere? | 14:45 |
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| dhellmann | we can re-check as they request rc2 tags | 14:46 |
| ttx | oh, another thing, ideally we want translations merges in before we tag rc2 | 14:46 |
| dhellmann | true, we can just merge those ourselves, right? | 14:47 |
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| ttx | and/or translations truncation as submitted by AJaeger | 14:47 |
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| dhellmann | truncation? | 14:47 |
| ttx | removal of incomplete translations files | 14:47 |
| ttx | like you remove languages that are <80% translated | 14:47 |
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| dhellmann | ah | 14:48 |
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| ttx | we should make sure we have AJaeger in the loop. Told me the translations things should start flowing soon | 14:48 |
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| dhellmann | ok, so anything that comes from zanata or ajaeger can just be merged | 14:48 |
| * andymaier is away: I'm away, not watching this cannel right now. | 14:49 | |
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| ttx | I'll look at the already-merged stuff | 14:50 |
| dhellmann | sounds good | 14:50 |
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| ttx | alright that is all I could think of | 14:50 |
| dhellmann | I'll go ahead and approve the .gitreview updates that are still open | 14:50 |
| dhellmann | #topic open discussion | 14:50 |
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| dhellmann | I feel like we've been taking really extensive notes this cycle, so I hope we have enough details by the end to prepare a run book to make some of the reasoning simpler next time around | 14:51 |
| ttx | dhellmann: trick is my brain is usually too fried to write anything when I'm done | 14:51 |
| dhellmann | yeah, that's why having the notes to look at in a few weeks when things settle down should be good | 14:52 |
| dhellmann | oh, speaking of a few weeks, I mentioned that I made a poorly scheduled vacation plan for Apr 4-12, which falls right on top of the final release date | 14:52 |
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| dhellmann | I'll have my laptop, but I think we should be mostly done with tags at that point, and just need to unwind the test jobs and such | 14:53 |
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| ttx | it... is poor | 14:53 |
| dhellmann | yeah :-/ | 14:53 |
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| ttx | we'll try to get to a complete list of things | 14:53 |
| dhellmann | I was focused on the week prior with final candidates | 14:53 |
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| dhellmann | I'll be in your tz, and can work some in the early mornings | 14:54 |
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| ttx | if you come to my place we can the release sprint | 14:54 |
| ttx | do | 14:54 |
| dhellmann | I might come home alone if I do that much work :-) | 14:54 |
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| ttx | not sure that counts as vacation though | 14:54 |
| dhellmann | not really | 14:55 |
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| ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/294416/ <-- a translations update | 14:56 |
| dhellmann | I thought we'd be mostly retagging existing releases with their final versions, and didn't count on all of the branching stuff | 14:56 |
| ttx | looks like they flow | 14:56 |
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| dhellmann | I don't have -2 on python-muranoclient | 14:57 |
| dhellmann | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/291606/2 | 14:57 |
| ttx | you should limit your reviews to milestones-driven and managed | 14:57 |
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| dhellmann | the list isn't that long, but yeah | 14:57 |
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| ttx | the rest you can't +2/-2 | 14:58 |
| ttx | dhellmann: let's talk to clarkb later | 14:58 |
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| dhellmann | do you want to abandon https://review.openstack.org/#/c/293414/ | 14:58 |
| dhellmann | yeah, let's close the meeting out | 14:58 |
| dhellmann | #endmeeting | 14:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Mar 18 14:58:49 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2016/releaseteam.2016-03-18-14.02.html | 14:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2016/releaseteam.2016-03-18-14.02.txt | 14:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2016/releaseteam.2016-03-18-14.02.log.html | 14:58 |
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