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| aspiers | hi | 08:00 |
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| aspiers | anyone around? | 08:01 |
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| aspiers | hmm, seems that everyone is sticking to 9am UTC | 08:07 |
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| aspiers | please let me know if you are expecting the HA meeting to be now - we can still have it :) | 09:01 |
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| samP | hi | 09:02 |
| masahito | hi | 09:02 |
| samP | are we 1h early? | 09:02 |
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| aspiers | hah | 09:02 |
| aspiers | no, 1h late | 09:02 |
| samP | ah.. | 09:02 |
| aspiers | or on time, depending on your opinion ;-) | 09:02 |
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| aspiers | it's scheduled for 9am UTC which is now | 09:02 |
| aspiers | but that seems like a mistake to me - should be scheduled for 9am Europe/London | 09:03 |
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| aspiers | ok, let's start | 09:03 |
| aspiers | #startmeeting ha | 09:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 11 09:03:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is aspiers. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ha)" | 09:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ha' | 09:03 |
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| aspiers | hello all, and sorry for the timing confusion | 09:03 |
| aspiers | let's deal with that first | 09:04 |
| aspiers | #topic time(zone) for meeting | 09:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "time(zone) for meeting (Meeting topic: ha)" | 09:04 | |
| aspiers | so currently it's scheduled for 9am UTC | 09:04 |
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| aspiers | but that means for anyone with daylight saving timezones, the meeting time shifts twice a year | 09:04 |
| aspiers | which does not sound like a good idea to me | 09:04 |
| aspiers | how many of us are in daylight saving timezones? | 09:04 |
| aspiers | o/ | 09:04 |
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| aspiers | ddeja, samP, masahito? | 09:05 |
| samP | samP, masahito is not | 09:06 |
| * aspiers puts up a o/ on behalf of beekhof | 09:06 | |
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| * aspiers puts up a o/ on behalf of ddeja | 09:08 | |
| ddeja | o/ | 09:08 |
| aspiers | :) | 09:08 |
| ddeja | sorry, I'm on 2 meetings in the same time | 09:08 |
| ddeja | ;) | 09:08 |
| aspiers | no problem :) | 09:08 |
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| aspiers | hmm, if there is no daylight savings in Japan then it sounds we have a split down the middle of the group :-/ | 09:09 |
| ddeja | I don't think so | 09:09 |
| ddeja | aspiers: masahito was there last week | 09:09 |
| aspiers | oh | 09:09 |
| aspiers | what about bogdando? | 09:10 |
| aspiers | and haukebruno? | 09:10 |
| ddeja | haukebruno was there, bogdano not | 09:10 |
| aspiers | hmm, so it's not easy to decide this now | 09:11 |
| aspiers | let's postpone the decision and I will try to poll everybody's preference before next week | 09:11 |
| haukebruno | \o/ hello | 09:11 |
| ddeja | ok | 09:11 |
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| aspiers | oh hi haukebruno | 09:11 |
| aspiers | which timezone are you in? | 09:11 |
| haukebruno | ah wait. we are 1 hour late? I hate that bloody summer/winter time crap | 09:11 |
| aspiers | haukebruno: that's the current topic ;-) | 09:12 |
| haukebruno | aspiers, currently CEST | 09:12 |
| aspiers | ok | 09:12 |
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| aspiers | #idea change meeting time from 9am UTC to 9am Europe/London | 09:12 |
| aspiers | #action aspiers to find out if anyone has any major objections to this | 09:12 |
| aspiers | #topic Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) | 09:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) (Meeting topic: ha)" | 09:13 | |
| aspiers | so ddeja and I have been working on preparing our Austin talk | 09:13 |
| bogdando | here. hi | 09:13 |
| aspiers | and I spent the whole weekend working with reveal.js | 09:13 |
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| aspiers | oh hi bogdando - are you in a timezone with DST? | 09:13 |
| bogdando | no, UTC+1 :) | 09:13 |
| bogdando | ah, yes I have DST enabled | 09:14 |
| aspiers | ok | 09:14 |
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| aspiers | bogdando: where do you live? just curious :) | 09:14 |
| bogdando | curently in Poznan | 09:14 |
| aspiers | ah ok | 09:14 |
| ddeja | bogdano - we are now +2 in Poland | 09:15 |
| aspiers | :) | 09:15 |
| ddeja | Gdansk here ;) | 09:15 |
| haukebruno | I love gdansk. sorry for offtopic :p | 09:15 |
| bogdando | :) | 09:15 |
| aspiers | lol | 09:15 |
| aspiers | so, back to my status | 09:15 |
| aspiers | other than that, I was working on debugging a neutron HA failover issue | 09:15 |
| aspiers | the same issue I've been working on for at least 4-6 weeks | 09:16 |
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| aspiers | but it's resolved now, and relevant patches are upstream | 09:16 |
| aspiers | https://github.com/openstack/openstack-resource-agents/blob/master/ocf/neutron-ha-tool | 09:17 |
| aspiers | in case anyone is curious | 09:17 |
| aspiers | I also started looking at DVR and HA | 09:17 |
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| aspiers | too early to share anything useful though | 09:18 |
| aspiers | ddeja: since you are in two meetings at once, feel free to share status at any point, or not at all :) | 09:18 |
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| aspiers | bogdando: anything to report? | 09:18 |
| bogdando | I have yet a time to start working on the HA guide for computes. Instead I've been learning the jepsen framework | 09:18 |
| aspiers | ok | 09:19 |
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| haukebruno | aspiers, just curious: what kind of HA related to DVR? local failover on compute nodes and stuff? | 09:19 |
| bogdando | and I have a custom test for the rabbit HA | 09:19 |
| bogdando | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-April/091763.html | 09:19 |
| aspiers | bogdando: as you saw, we've had one or two people visit the channel asking for those docs | 09:19 |
| bogdando | we could reuse that later for any test cases | 09:19 |
| bogdando | as you may know, jepsen allows to crash your cluster in many many interesting ways | 09:19 |
| aspiers | haukebruno: e.g. how to handle failure on nodes hosting SNAT routers | 09:19 |
| haukebruno | ah, cool | 09:19 |
| bogdando | so perhaps we could write tests to check HA for OpenStack components, like neutron HA or DLM later | 09:20 |
| aspiers | bogdando: yes I saw that and added it to our long TODO list of things to look into :) | 09:20 |
| bogdando | ;) | 09:20 |
| ddeja | my status: Working on Austin presentation and some internal intel staff | 09:20 |
| aspiers | ddeja: ok thanks - I have a reveal.js skeleton for the presentation now | 09:21 |
| aspiers | bogdando: jepsen is new to me | 09:21 |
| bogdando | I believe it is very nice for HA verification | 09:21 |
| haukebruno | to me too | 09:21 |
| aspiers | bogdando: I think this is the best way to go for HA integration tests https://github.com/cisco-oss-eng/Cloud99 | 09:21 |
| bogdando | I'd say the best one | 09:21 |
| bogdando | but I know not much alts | 09:22 |
| bogdando | yup | 09:22 |
| aspiers | Cloud99 seems to do exactly what we need | 09:22 |
| bogdando | the best, it is | 09:22 |
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| aspiers | it was presented in Vancouver | 09:22 |
| bogdando | and we could split pacemaker+remote to network partitions to check instanves evac a swell | 09:23 |
| aspiers | https://www.openstack.org/summit/vancouver-2015/summit-videos/presentation/high-availability-and-resiliency-testing-strategies-for-openstack-clouds | 09:23 |
| aspiers | maybe someone should write a spec for HA testing | 09:23 |
| aspiers | BTW I have still not finished creating an openstack-resource-agents-specs repo | 09:24 |
| aspiers | but I will do that very soon, maybe today | 09:24 |
| aspiers | haukebruno: anything to report from you? | 09:24 |
| aspiers | or from samP or masahito? | 09:24 |
| haukebruno | nothing interesting. I am still fighting with the whole git + gerrit stuff for contributing to the guide in the future :p | 09:24 |
| aspiers | haukebruno: ok good luck with that ;-) | 09:25 |
| aspiers | haukebruno: that's definitely worth investing time into | 09:25 |
| samP | nothing from our side ...(masa?) | 09:25 |
| masahito | nothing specially from us. | 09:25 |
| aspiers | ok | 09:25 |
| aspiers | #topic specs | 09:25 |
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| aspiers | so there are a few specs which need to be written | 09:25 |
| aspiers | one is related to a long outstanding action for me to get a working group together to work on reconverging Fuel OCF RAs with upstream | 09:26 |
| aspiers | I promised to do that during a weekly Fuel meeting a month or two ago | 09:26 |
| aspiers | but did not manage to do it yet | 09:26 |
| aspiers | the plan was to develop some specs to plan the reconvergence | 09:27 |
| aspiers | but first obviously we need a specs repo | 09:27 |
| aspiers | secondly, we need a spec to ensure that RAs are synchronous, since that is required by Pacemaker | 09:27 |
| aspiers | and I suspect that many of them aren't | 09:27 |
| aspiers | although I didn't check yet | 09:27 |
| aspiers | thirdly, I want to write a spec proposing that OCF RAs wrap around service(8) | 09:28 |
| beekhof | oh, timezones | 09:28 |
| beekhof | meeting starts at 7 now? | 09:28 |
| aspiers | that third one is specially for beekhof ;-) | 09:28 |
| aspiers | beekhof: scroll up to the first topic discussed ;-) | 09:29 |
| beekhof | i will hunt you down | 09:29 |
| aspiers | lol | 09:29 |
| aspiers | we probably also want specs for designing CI etc. | 09:29 |
| aspiers | but I guess they will come more naturally, once we have the -specs repo | 09:29 |
| aspiers | we could also use it for new compute HA specs potentially | 09:30 |
| beekhof | +1hr works for me | 09:30 |
| aspiers | beekhof: ok thanks, noted | 09:30 |
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| aspiers | #action aspiers to finish creating openstack-resource-agents-specs repo | 09:31 |
| aspiers | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/296144/ | 09:31 |
| aspiers | ok, anyone want to say anything else relating to specs? | 09:31 |
| masahito | is the spec repo for OCF or for VM HA? | 09:31 |
| aspiers | for OCF RAs | 09:32 |
| masahito | ok. | 09:32 |
| aspiers | but we could also use it for VM HA, if the VM HA solution uses at least one RA :) | 09:32 |
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| masahito | nice. thanks to the offer. | 09:33 |
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| aspiers | #topic VM HA user story | 09:33 |
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| aspiers | more feedback has been requested for this | 09:33 |
| aspiers | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/289469/ | 09:33 |
| aspiers | someone at Intel is working on it, IIRC | 09:34 |
| aspiers | also, I heard that the PWG (Product Working Group) have identified VM HA as a very important feature :) | 09:34 |
| haukebruno | +1 :) | 09:34 |
| aspiers | so I guess the spotlight is on us a bit more now :) | 09:34 |
| aspiers | I expect there will be some really interesting conversations in Austin | 09:35 |
| aspiers | #action anyone interested to review that user story | 09:35 |
| aspiers | #topic AOB (Any Other Business) | 09:35 |
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| aspiers | ok, anything else to raise? | 09:36 |
| masahito | our meeting time in Austin | 09:36 |
| aspiers | yeah, I didn't make any progress on that yet :-/ | 09:36 |
| aspiers | TBH I'm not sure how best to arrange | 09:37 |
| aspiers | suggestions welcome | 09:37 |
| aspiers | but ideally it would be a semi-official session | 09:37 |
| masahito | I saw a proposal for cross-project slot, but we were not able to get time slot ;< | 09:37 |
| aspiers | masahito: right | 09:37 |
| aspiers | masahito: I suspect we're not broad enough for c-p yet | 09:38 |
| aspiers | I didn't see any requests for design summit proposals | 09:38 |
| aspiers | I guess I must have missed it | 09:38 |
| aspiers | I'll ask some of my Foundation contacts for advice | 09:39 |
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| masahito | So I think we should get together anywhere at sometime. | 09:39 |
| aspiers | masahito: sure, we can do that | 09:40 |
| aspiers | masahito: but it would be nicer if it was on the official schedule somehow | 09:40 |
| aspiers | masahito: to attract new people | 09:40 |
| masahito | aspiers: right | 09:40 |
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| aspiers | #action aspiers to continue looking into scheduling semi-official VM HA meeting in Austin | 09:41 |
| aspiers | anything else | 09:41 |
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| aspiers | ok sounds like we can close for todaya | 09:45 |
| aspiers | sorry for the timezone confusion earlier | 09:45 |
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| haukebruno | so will we meet at 9utc next week or not? | 09:46 |
| haukebruno | I am still confused :D | 09:46 |
| aspiers | haukebruno: we didn't decide yet | 09:46 |
| haukebruno | ah ok | 09:46 |
| aspiers | it seems that everyone is in daylight countries except for Japan | 09:46 |
| aspiers | masahito, samP: would 8am UTC work for you next week? | 09:47 |
| masahito | it works for us. | 09:47 |
| samP | that would be 5pm in jp, | 09:47 |
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| samP | ok | 09:48 |
| aspiers | ok great! | 09:48 |
| aspiers | so it sounds like 9am Europe/London (which is currently 8am UTC) will work | 09:48 |
| samP | +1 | 09:48 |
| aspiers | I will adjust the wiki and meetings project | 09:48 |
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| aspiers | alright, thanks everyone and see you next week at 9am Europe/London! | 09:50 |
| aspiers | bye for now | 09:51 |
| ddeja | bye | 09:51 |
| haukebruno | thanks + bye o/ | 09:51 |
| masahito | bye | 09:51 |
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| samP | bye | 09:52 |
| aspiers | #endmeeting | 09:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 09:52 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 11 09:52:48 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-04-11-09.03.html | 09:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-04-11-09.03.txt | 09:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-04-11-09.03.log.html | 09:52 |
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| andreykurilin__ | #startmeeting Rally | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 11 14:02:34 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is andreykurilin__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rally' | 14:02 |
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| andreykurilin__ | o/ | 14:03 |
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| ikhudoshyn | hi there | 14:04 |
| andreykurilin__ | amaretskiy rvasilets : ping | 14:04 |
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| amaretskiy | hi | 14:04 |
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| ikhudoshyn | looks like our agenda is empty | 14:05 |
| andreykurilin__ | yeah | 14:05 |
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| andreykurilin__ | and there is no a lot of attendies | 14:05 |
| andreykurilin__ | but we have something to discuss | 14:05 |
| ikhudoshyn | so we'll be quick )) | 14:05 |
| andreykurilin__ | at least one topic:) | 14:05 |
| andreykurilin__ | amaretskiy | 14:05 |
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| amaretskiy | let's talk about term "workload" which appears in two different meanings | 14:06 |
| amaretskiy | so this becomes confusing | 14:06 |
| andreykurilin__ | ok | 14:06 |
| ikhudoshyn | i got some input on that | 14:06 |
| andreykurilin__ | #topic Term "workload" | 14:07 |
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| ikhudoshyn | 'cos I kinda was close to birth of the term | 14:07 |
| amaretskiy | 1st occurrence is plugins directory https://github.com/openstack/rally/tree/master/rally/plugins/workload | 14:07 |
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| amaretskiy | 2nd is a new name of scenario in our new task format https://github.com/openstack/rally/blob/master/doc/specs/in-progress/new_rally_input_task_format.rst | 14:08 |
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| ikhudoshyn | amaretskiy: let me clarify on that ^^ | 14:08 |
| amaretskiy | this is really confusing | 14:08 |
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| amaretskiy | in our new task format, we will call scenario "workload" | 14:08 |
| ikhudoshyn | nope)) | 14:08 |
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| ikhudoshyn | we won't | 14:08 |
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| amaretskiy | task/subtasks/workloads | 14:09 |
| ikhudoshyn | yep | 14:09 |
| amaretskiy | here is the structure^ | 14:09 |
| ikhudoshyn | but it's not a scenario) | 14:09 |
| amaretskiy | butrecently we have a dir in plugins | 14:09 |
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| amaretskiy | named "workloads" | 14:09 |
| amaretskiy | workload | 14:09 |
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| amaretskiy | this dir is for plugins related to VM load scripts | 14:10 |
| amaretskiy | I propose to rename this dir | 14:10 |
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| amaretskiy | find new term, like vmload, vmperf, etc..... | 14:11 |
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| amaretskiy | something that differ from "workload" | 14:11 |
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| amaretskiy | any ideas? | 14:11 |
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| ikhudoshyn | vmworkload | 14:11 |
| andreykurilin__ | +1 | 14:11 |
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| amaretskiy | looks good | 14:12 |
| ikhudoshyn | so it differs from Rally workload | 14:12 |
| amaretskiy | but too long :) | 14:12 |
| ikhudoshyn | r we gonna to use it often? | 14:12 |
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| amaretskiy | shakers :) | 14:12 |
| amaretskiy | ? | 14:12 |
| ikhudoshyn | cos it's long but more or less self-explaning | 14:12 |
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| ikhudoshyn | shaker will get deprecatred earlier or later imo | 14:13 |
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| amaretskiy | just rename workload->shaker :) | 14:14 |
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| ikhudoshyn | why shaker? | 14:14 |
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| ikhudoshyn | boris-42 gonna love it)) | 14:14 |
| amaretskiy | just remember about project that does something similar | 14:14 |
| ikhudoshyn | he's a big cocktail enthusiast | 14:14 |
| amaretskiy | https://github.com/openstack/shaker | 14:15 |
| ikhudoshyn | it's only one project, I believe our stuff is multy-purpose) | 14:15 |
| andreykurilin__ | amaretskiy: as far as I understand shaker is only about network workloads | 14:15 |
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| amaretskiy | I propose just name for the dir | 14:16 |
| amaretskiy | okay, any other ideas, start voting? | 14:16 |
| ikhudoshyn | +1 for vmworkload ) | 14:17 |
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| amaretskiy | maybe create google form and get opinions from most team members? | 14:19 |
| ikhudoshyn | start mail thread.. | 14:19 |
| rvasilets | Hi | 14:20 |
| ikhudoshyn | announce preliminary meeting | 14:20 |
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| ikhudoshyn | than actual meeting)) | 14:20 |
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| ikhudoshyn | maybe we'll just go with voting right now? )) | 14:20 |
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| ikhudoshyn | hi rvasilets | 14:20 |
| amaretskiy | ikhudoshyn: i think we need opinion from redixin and boris-42 | 14:20 |
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| ikhudoshyn | amaretskiy: that's true | 14:21 |
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| ikhudoshyn | but if we're looking for the voice of the two, google form seems a bit redundant for me)) | 14:21 |
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| ikhudoshyn | why just don't ask them? | 14:21 |
| andreykurilin__ | amaretskiy: -1 for google form:) | 14:22 |
| ikhudoshyn | (yep I noticed that they both are absent today))) | 14:22 |
| amaretskiy | how to collect votes/ another ideas? | 14:22 |
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| ikhudoshyn | amaretskiy: try starting with tellyng your own vote)) | 14:22 |
| ikhudoshyn | rvasilets: join us) | 14:23 |
| rvasilets | idea to create the patch with propose) | 14:23 |
| amaretskiy | I would vote for vmload, vmperf, shaker (all get +) | 14:23 |
| amaretskiy | vmworkload - good but too long | 14:23 |
| ikhudoshyn | so by far +2 for vmworkload, +1 for vmload, +1 vmperf, +1 shaker)) | 14:23 |
| rvasilets | crossload | 14:23 |
| ikhudoshyn | rvasilets: pls elaborate | 14:24 |
| amaretskiy | vmio ? | 14:24 |
| rvasilets | -1 for shaker and vmperf | 14:24 |
| ikhudoshyn | is it really 'cross' | 14:24 |
| ikhudoshyn | is it really only for 'io' | 14:24 |
| rvasilets | +1 for vmload and crossload | 14:24 |
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| rvasilets | the idea with crossload is similar as in crosstraining term | 14:25 |
| ikhudoshyn | so we got +2 for vmworkload and +2 for vmload | 14:25 |
| amaretskiy | andreykurilin__: your vote..... ? | 14:25 |
| ikhudoshyn | what we have to do is just ask redixin and boris-42 | 14:25 |
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| ikhudoshyn | andreykurilin__: was for vmworkload | 14:26 |
| andreykurilin__ | :) | 14:26 |
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| rvasilets | chris also is absent | 14:26 |
| andreykurilin__ | amareskiy: please, start a mailing thread about this new entity | 14:26 |
| rvasilets | it would be good tohave his vote too | 14:27 |
| ikhudoshyn | ["sarcasm"] ? | 14:27 |
| amaretskiy | andreykurilin__: ok, let it be mail list | 14:27 |
| ikhudoshyn | andreykurilin__: ^^ | 14:27 |
| andreykurilin__ | ikhudoshyn: no | 14:27 |
| rvasilets | let it be, let it be...(song) | 14:27 |
| ikhudoshyn | ok | 14:27 |
| ikhudoshyn | letter 'b', letter 'b'... (song) | 14:27 |
| andreykurilin__ | it would be nice if community will know everything about our new stuff | 14:27 |
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| ikhudoshyn | agreed, let the mail-thread begins.. | 14:29 |
| andreykurilin__ | ok, so there is one more topic | 14:29 |
| ikhudoshyn | anything else to discuss? | 14:29 |
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| andreykurilin__ | it relates to this previous one | 14:30 |
| andreykurilin__ | #topic Rally glossary | 14:30 |
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| andreykurilin__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/266389/ | 14:30 |
| andreykurilin__ | we should start working on our glossary as soon as possible | 14:30 |
| rvasilets | ok | 14:31 |
| rvasilets | i will look at it | 14:31 |
| amaretskiy | andreykurilin__: I will submit a patch set soon | 14:31 |
| andreykurilin__ | rvasilets: it doesn't include a lot of terms yet | 14:31 |
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| andreykurilin__ | ikhudoshyn: since you are familiar with new rally task format, please add some terms there | 14:32 |
| ikhudoshyn | not really constructive, but usually Glossary is put closer to the end of TOC | 14:32 |
| ikhudoshyn | andreykurilin__: will do | 14:32 |
| rvasilets | and our native speaker chris also welcome there=) | 14:33 |
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| amaretskiy | andreykurilin__: ikhudoshyn: I will add terms in new patch, but need to discuss their definitions | 14:33 |
| andreykurilin__ | ok | 14:33 |
| andreykurilin__ | thanks | 14:33 |
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| andreykurilin__ | that is all from my side | 14:34 |
| andreykurilin__ | anything else to discuss? | 14:34 |
| rvasilets | nothing from me) | 14:34 |
| andreykurilin__ | ok | 14:34 |
| andreykurilin__ | #endmeeting | 14:35 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 11 14:35:05 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:35 |
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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 11 16:01:45 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:01 |
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| rakhmerov | hi | 16:02 |
| rakhmerov | is there anybody here? | 16:02 |
| rakhmerov | please call yourself if any | 16:02 |
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| rakhmerov | rvasilets: cool, thanks!! | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 16:05 |
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| adam_g | #startmeeting astara | 18:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 11 18:02:24 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is adam_g. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:02 |
| adam_g | o/ hi ya'll | 18:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'astara' | 18:02 |
| markmcclain | o. | 18:02 |
| markmcclain | o/ | 18:02 |
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| adam_g | one more min for others to show up | 18:03 |
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| adam_g | rods, ryanpetrello hiya | 18:04 |
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| rods | o/ | 18:04 |
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| adam_g | #topic mitaka development | 18:05 |
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| adam_g | last time we'll call this topic because mitaka/8.0.0 is officially released, as of thursday. nice work all | 18:05 |
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| adam_g | we've fixed a few bugs since that'll be backported to stable/mitaka today | 18:05 |
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| adam_g | #topic newton design summit | 18:07 |
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| adam_g | so i've seeded an etherpad we can use to get some ideas together about things we'd lke to discuss in austin in a couple of weeks | 18:07 |
| adam_g | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/astara-newton-summit | 18:07 |
| markmcclain | awesome | 18:07 |
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| adam_g | we've got all day on friday to work through some topics but we should come up with a single thing we'd like to dedicate the thurs. AM fishbowl to | 18:10 |
| adam_g | hopefully something of interest to devs in other projects.. im thinking the SFC ideas we've been throwing around would be a good fit there | 18:11 |
| markmcclain | yeah.. I think that would be good | 18:11 |
| adam_g | cool | 18:13 |
| adam_g | if anyone has more ideas feel free to add to the etherpad this week | 18:13 |
| adam_g | other than that, master/newton is open so keep the patches comin | 18:13 |
| tricksters | ok. cool | 18:14 |
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| adam_g | #topic open discussion | 18:14 |
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| adam_g | anyone have anything else to add? this is the sort of downtime between release and summit, so not too much to talk about ATM on my end | 18:15 |
| markmcclain | nothing else from me | 18:15 |
| adam_g | ok then | 18:18 |
| adam_g | tty all in #openstack-astara | 18:18 |
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| eric_lopez | same here - nothing | 18:18 |
| adam_g | #endmeeting | 18:18 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 11 18:18:43 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/astara/2016/astara.2016-04-11-18.02.html | 18:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/astara/2016/astara.2016-04-11-18.02.txt | 18:18 |
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| emagana | #startmeeting uc | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Apr 11 19:01:36 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is emagana. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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| emagana | Hello all! Anyone around for the UC IRC meeting? | 19:01 |
| shamail | Hi emagana! | 19:01 |
| ShillaSaebi | hello!! | 19:01 |
| jproulx | hello | 19:02 |
| docaedo | o/ | 19:02 |
| noggin143 | hello | 19:02 |
| emagana | awesome! | 19:02 |
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| emagana | #topic review action items | 19:03 |
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| emagana | From the last meeting #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2016/uc.2016-03-28-19.01.html | 19:03 |
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| emagana | The discussion about Ops recognition topic to nonATC WG meeting has been done. shamail is here and I would like him to provide an update | 19:04 |
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| shamail | Thanks emagana... We have formed the WG and started weekly meetings (Thursdays 1900UTC) | 19:04 |
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| emagana | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/NonATCRecognition | 19:05 |
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| shamail | We spent our first meeting on logistics and plan to dive into discussing roles/activities in our next meeting. | 19:05 |
| shamail | Thanks for the link | 19:05 |
| shamail | I would make this action item as completed. | 19:05 |
| ShillaSaebi | awesome | 19:05 |
| shamail | Mark* | 19:05 |
| emagana | shamail: Thanks! | 19:05 |
| emagana | shamail: Anything needed from UC so far? | 19:05 |
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| shamail | Not yet, but I was wondering if the UC has started discussing the charter in parallel? | 19:06 |
| shamail | The WG is helping with the constituency but the charter would eventually define the rights/benefits | 19:06 |
| emagana | Not as far as I know. I think we will first have the WG input but let's hear jproulx and ShillaSaebi | 19:07 |
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| ShillaSaebi | we haven't started discussing it yet, as far as I know | 19:08 |
| jproulx | No we haven't, but should/can we is the question I think... | 19:08 |
| emagana | ok, then we should be talking about this once we have the input from the WG. | 19:08 |
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| shamail | Alright, thanks. It's not a blocking issue but I think it might take awhile so a head start might be beneficial | 19:08 |
| emagana | maybe a topic for the Austin summit? | 19:09 |
| shamail | +1 | 19:09 |
| jproulx | the WG is defining 'who' and 'how' the UC needs to define 'what' | 19:09 |
| ShillaSaebi | +1 | 19:09 |
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| jproulx | Yes I think in person since summit is soon. +1 | 19:09 |
| ShillaSaebi | i certainly agree | 19:09 |
| emagana | Let's talk about the Summit which was an action item for carolbarrett | 19:10 |
| emagana | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/User_Committee_Austin_Planning | 19:10 |
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| emagana | I just added the topic about the charter to the etherpad. | 19:11 |
| ShillaSaebi | cool | 19:11 |
| shamail | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/User_Committee_Austin_Planning | 19:11 |
| shamail | Ack sorry | 19:11 |
| shamail | Mobile :) | 19:11 |
| emagana | We need to add more details and formalize the agenda | 19:11 |
| shamail | When would you like Input into the etherpad by? | 19:12 |
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| emagana | but we just have 30 minutes so we can not go crazy :-) | 19:12 |
| jproulx | 1:50 -> 3:20 is 1:30 yes? | 19:12 |
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| jproulx | 90min that is | 19:12 |
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| emagana | ups... jproulx you are right.. | 19:13 |
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| ShillaSaebi | oh thats much better | 19:13 |
| jproulx | still I think that 90min will go fast | 19:13 |
| emagana | shamail: we do not have a lot of time, we may need to discuss next week | 19:13 |
| shamail | I will have to miss a portion of one of the slots (forget if it's the first or second half) | 19:13 |
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| shamail | Okay emagana | 19:13 |
| jproulx | once we're happy with items we should probably try and assign times | 19:13 |
| shamail | Can you assign an #action to all to provide input by next week? | 19:13 |
| emagana | #action all provide input for the UC Austin session #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/User_Committee_Austin_Planning | 19:14 |
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| emagana | #action ShillaSaebi jproulx emagana to finalize the agenda | 19:14 |
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| emagana | another action item was to coordinate UC representation to the Board meeting on April 24th. I think jproulx and emagana are confirmed, what about ShillaSaebi? | 19:16 |
| jproulx | Yes I will be there. | 19:17 |
| ShillaSaebi | i have yet to book my ticket | 19:17 |
| emagana | Thanks jproulx | 19:17 |
| ShillaSaebi | i will try to book it in a way where I will be in attendance | 19:17 |
| emagana | ShillaSaebi: Let us know. So far we are covered. | 19:17 |
| ShillaSaebi | thats great, will do thank you | 19:17 |
| ShillaSaebi | I should have it done early this week and will send an email once i know | 19:17 |
| emagana | the last action item was to me to follow up on a draft to redefine the UC goals and possible structure | 19:18 |
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| emagana | and I have to report that I could not coordinate a session with ShillaSaebi nor jproulx to discuss this.. :-( | 19:18 |
| emagana | I also wanted to have edit access to this file #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yD8TfqUik2dt5xo_jMVHMl7tw9oIJnEndLK8YqEToyo/edit# | 19:19 |
| ShillaSaebi | is this something else we want to coordinate for the summit or shall we try to do it beforehand? | 19:19 |
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| ShillaSaebi | let me see if thats something i can do | 19:20 |
| emagana | I requested a couple of time access but no response. I do not even know who owns it? maybe Tim? | 19:20 |
| ShillaSaebi | oh i don't have access either | 19:20 |
| emagana | ShillaSaebi: it will be nice to have a draft for the summit and complete the discussion in person | 19:20 |
| jproulx | nor I | 19:20 |
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| emagana | I think was a document from Tim. I will reach out to him directly | 19:21 |
| ShillaSaebi | there are a few other contributors listed at the bottom of the doc | 19:21 |
| shamail | ping noggin143 | 19:21 |
| ShillaSaebi | maybe try them too if you can't get a hold of Tim | 19:21 |
| emagana | #action emagana to request access to #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yD8TfqUik2dt5xo_jMVHMl7tw9oIJnEndLK8YqEToyo/edit# | 19:21 |
| emagana | ok, that covers all action items from previous meeting. | 19:21 |
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| emagana | #topic Planning for Austin | 19:22 |
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| emagana | Is there something to discuss besides requesting more input in the etherpad? | 19:22 |
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| ShillaSaebi | not from my end | 19:23 |
| shamail | Nothing here either | 19:23 |
| jproulx | I have no new business | 19:23 |
| emagana | ok.. | 19:23 |
| emagana | #topic Open Discussion | 19:23 |
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| emagana | anyone? | 19:23 |
| shamail | I had a topic for open discussion but I am drawing a blank | 19:23 |
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| shamail | 😔 | 19:24 |
| emagana | i have not been able to be around for the meetings in APAC time zone, are those happening? | 19:24 |
| shamail | That's it! | 19:24 |
| jproulx | Oh actually that's a good topic! | 19:24 |
| emagana | shamail: :-) | 19:24 |
| jproulx | I think they have not | 19:24 |
| shamail | I was wondering about the regional one as well | 19:24 |
| emagana | shamail: I read minds! | 19:24 |
| shamail | Haha, you just proved it | 19:24 |
| jproulx | I attended the first one but there was virtually no attendance | 19:25 |
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| shamail | I think Roland was going to lead those | 19:25 |
| jproulx | (it was me & rolland 1st time) | 19:25 |
| emagana | IMHO we should have one meeting if the other one does not have attendance at all. | 19:25 |
| shamail | Yeah, we need to send out notices for that one to | 19:25 |
| shamail | Too* | 19:25 |
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| emagana | First and more important, who should be chairing those ones? | 19:25 |
| emagana | I can not unfortunately. | 19:25 |
| ShillaSaebi | The time for the APAC one does not work for me | 19:26 |
| shamail | It wouldn't make sense to have it without any UC present | 19:27 |
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| jproulx | It's a difficult, but not impossible time slot for me. | 19:27 |
| shamail | So should we remove it for now and make a topic for Austin? | 19:28 |
| emagana | should we cancel it and just keep this one? | 19:28 |
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| shamail | I'll add revisit regional meeting as a topic | 19:28 |
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| emagana | we are two weeks away from the summit. If nobody can chair it the one next week, we cancel it and no matter what we will revisit this in Austin. | 19:29 |
| ShillaSaebi | ok | 19:29 |
| ShillaSaebi | that sounds good to me | 19:29 |
| jproulx | OK added to planning ether pad | 19:29 |
| ShillaSaebi | +1 | 19:29 |
| emagana | cool! | 19:30 |
| shamail | also, this meeting used to be every third Monday... It is currently every odd week. Do we leave this one as is? | 19:30 |
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| shamail | Basically make this a bi-weekly versus monthly meeting? | 19:30 |
| emagana | let's redefine the schedule in Austin | 19:30 |
| jproulx | biweekly seems good | 19:30 |
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| shamail | +1 | 19:31 |
| emagana | other Open Agenda topics? | 19:31 |
| shamail | When/where will we have a UC party in Austin? | 19:31 |
| shamail | :D | 19:31 |
| shamail | Jk | 19:31 |
| ShillaSaebi | lol | 19:31 |
| emagana | everyday! | 19:31 |
| shamail | Best answer. | 19:32 |
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| shamail | See you in a couple of weeks, take care. | 19:32 |
| jproulx | thanks all | 19:32 |
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| emagana | cheers! | 19:33 |
| emagana | #endmeeting | 19:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Apr 11 19:33:25 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2016/uc.2016-04-11-19.01.html | 19:33 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2016/uc.2016-04-11-19.01.txt | 19:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/uc/2016/uc.2016-04-11-19.01.log.html | 19:33 |
| ShillaSaebi | bye! | 19:33 |
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