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| annp | amotoki-san: Good morning! | 01:17 |
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| annp | amotoki-san: I've updated logging api spec (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/203509) for a week. | 01:18 |
| annp | amotoki-san: Could you please take a look at it when you have time. | 01:18 |
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| annp | amotoki-san: Thanks for your time. :) | 01:19 |
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| annp | oop!, I'm so sorry. It should be discussion on openstack-neutron channel. | 01:24 |
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| huzhj | #startmeeting daisycloud | 07:59 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Aug 5 07:59:18 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is huzhj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:59 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: daisycloud)" | 07:59 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'daisycloud' | 07:59 |
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| huzhj | #topic Roll Call | 08:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: daisycloud)" | 08:01 | |
| huzhj | #info Zhijiang | 08:01 |
| zhouya | #info zhouya | 08:01 |
| kongwei | #info kongwei | 08:02 |
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| huzhj | How is the week? :) | 08:03 |
| huzhj | @luyao are you there? | 08:04 |
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| zhouya | we still have many work to do to deal with some error | 08:04 |
| luyao | yes | 08:04 |
| huzhj | OK #info luyao | 08:04 |
| luyao | sorry ，IForget | 08:05 |
| huzhj | #topic Daisy Call Graph doc CI documentation | 08:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Daisy Call Graph doc CI documentation (Meeting topic: daisycloud)" | 08:05 | |
| huzhj | I've just uploaded the call graph doc to the repo. | 08:05 |
| huzhj | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351476/ | 08:06 |
| huzhj | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351476/ | 08:06 |
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| huzhj | Hope it can help us to understand the code arrangement more easily | 08:06 |
| huzhj | And what about the CI env doc? @kongwei | 08:07 |
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| huzhj | Hope we got good progress on that, can't wait to read it:) | 08:09 |
| kongwei | The ci doc was finished | 08:10 |
| kongwei | I am writing the FAQ about our ci env. | 08:10 |
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| kongwei | Can I post the doc to wiki? | 08:11 |
| huzhj | Sure | 08:11 |
| huzhj | Do you have permission to modify our wiki? I think so | 08:12 |
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| huzhj | althrough the wiki server has some kind of problem with my account, I can not managed to log into it for a long time since last successful login | 08:13 |
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| kongwei | I try it. | 08:13 |
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| huzhj | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Daisy | 08:14 |
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| huzhj | #info Zhijiang has merged the call graph doc , Kongwei will post ci doc to the wiki page above | 08:15 |
| huzhj | well , i thkn we can move to the next topic | 08:16 |
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| huzhj | #topic Git tag sync between Kolla code and images | 08:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Git tag sync between Kolla code and images (Meeting topic: daisycloud)" | 08:16 | |
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| huzhj | As we know, currently we just sync Kolla code the right image version | 08:17 |
| huzhj | for example uses 2.0.3 code to deploy 2.0.3 images | 08:17 |
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| huzhj | but, I am afraid we need to do one step further | 08:18 |
| huzhj | that is sync to the right tag | 08:18 |
| huzhj | sorry I mean currently we only sync at branch level | 08:19 |
| huzhj | In futture we need to sync at the version tag level | 08:20 |
| huzhj | what do you think? | 08:20 |
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| zhouya | great | 08:21 |
| luyao | good | 08:21 |
| luyao | I think so | 08:21 |
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| kongwei | yes | 08:21 |
| kongwei | @huzhj, I can modify the wiki page. I will post ci doc to wiki ASAP. | 08:22 |
| huzhj | otherwise we may uses 2.0.4 code to deploy 2.0.3 image which seems is wrong | 08:22 |
| huzhj | Thanks for the confirm @kongwei | 08:22 |
| zhouya | yes | 08:22 |
| luyao | I agree | 08:23 |
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| huzhj | for the version spin thing, we'd best also consult it with kolla team | 08:24 |
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| huzhj | I will send a email to ask them for the idea. | 08:24 |
| huzhj | #info team agree on doing version spinning , but it is better to ask kolla team to make sure. | 08:25 |
| huzhj | OK next topic | 08:26 |
| huzhj | #topic How to get backend type and the use cases | 08:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "How to get backend type and the use cases (Meeting topic: daisycloud)" | 08:26 | |
| huzhj | I think Ya and Jing are working on implementing a general interface for getting backend type | 08:26 |
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| huzhj | which then can be used for weu ui presentation and business logic such as applying rules | 08:27 |
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| zhouya | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351030/ | 08:28 |
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| huzhj | @Ya do you know which patch impl the general inteface? How the above one? | 08:29 |
| zhouya | we use the api of role-list to get backend | 08:29 |
| huzhj | Greate | 08:29 |
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| huzhj | But according to the patch, the general inteface is implemented in the web ui level but not the daisyclient or daisy-api level which are more general. | 08:30 |
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| zhouya | the function get_backend_type_by_role_list is the role-list api linked to horizon | 08:31 |
| huzhj | So it may not be able for us to use it in other place such as CLI | 08:31 |
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| zhouya | yes | 08:31 |
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| zhouya | I still work on this to get a general api for other place such as CLI | 08:33 |
| huzhj | So do you have further plan to move it to low level? Anyway I think it satisfy me currenly | 08:33 |
| huzhj | Greate | 08:33 |
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| zhouya | I think I can add backend key and value to host-detail to get to the low level | 08:35 |
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| zhouya | next time we can get backend from host-detail | 08:35 |
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| luyao | good | 08:36 |
| huzhj | do you mean to modify the database table desigh? | 08:36 |
| zhouya | no，just get the value from db | 08:36 |
| huzhj | #info Ya and Jing have impl the interface for obtaining the backend type info | 08:37 |
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| huzhj | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351030/ | 08:37 |
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| huzhj | #info Ya has a further plan to add backend key and value to host-detail , then we can move such interface to the low level which can be used ont only by Web UI but also CLI | 08:38 |
| huzhj | Good | 08:38 |
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| huzhj | Really a good example to dig more deep into the core code | 08:39 |
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| huzhj | any other things before we move to next topic? | 08:39 |
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| huzhj | #topic Image 2.0.3 login problem | 08:41 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Image 2.0.3 login problem (Meeting topic: daisycloud)" | 08:41 | |
| huzhj | After we deployed the 2.0.3 image, we can not login to the Web UI | 08:42 |
| huzhj | #info After we deployed the 2.0.3 image, we can not login to the Web UI | 08:42 |
| huzhj | #info the problem seems the same as https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/26705 | 08:42 |
| openstack | Django bug 26705 in Internationalization "DjangoTranslation instance has no attribute 'plural'" [Normal,Closed] - Assigned to Unknown | 08:42 |
| zhouya | yes | 08:42 |
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| huzhj | but as the bug described , it only occured when we using a language which dejango do not support | 08:43 |
| huzhj | we are using english right? :) | 08:43 |
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| zhouya | yes | 08:44 |
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| huzhj | That is why it is confused | 08:44 |
| zhouya | we did not involve other languages | 08:44 |
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| huzhj | #info the problem in the bug has not been solved in the Mitaka RDO repo | 08:45 |
| huzhj | can we modify code manually to see if the patch can help? | 08:46 |
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| zhouya | we could try to modify the code to deal with this problem | 08:47 |
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| zhouya | just have to modify the Django code | 08:47 |
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| huzhj | is it possible to modify the code in the container? | 08:48 |
| huzhj | Not easy to rebuild images | 08:48 |
| zhouya | have not tried ，could do it this time | 08:49 |
| huzhj | Well lets try it offline | 08:49 |
| zhouya | I think restart the container will be OK | 08:50 |
| huzhj | #info need to verify if the patch for the bug can really solve our problem | 08:50 |
| huzhj | OK | 08:50 |
| huzhj | #topic Daisy4nfv related status update | 08:51 |
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| huzhj | as the last topic I would like us to discuss something about daisy4nfv | 08:51 |
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| huzhj | kongwei, any update form your side? about escalator? | 08:52 |
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| huzhj | Ok, let's discuss it through mailing list:) | 08:55 |
| zhouya | OK | 08:55 |
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| huzhj | another thing I would like to discuss is about the error during multinode deploying | 08:56 |
| huzhj | something like Client Error: Conflict for url: http+docker://localunixsocket/v1.23/containers/create?name=openvswitch_vswitchd, I think Yao know more about this issue | 08:56 |
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| luyao | I meet this error when multinode deploy | 08:57 |
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| huzhj | But we do not have time, @loyao could you pleae filre a bug to the Kolla launchpad? | 08:58 |
| luyao | yes | 08:58 |
| huzhj | if can not make it through | 08:58 |
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| huzhj | Thanks | 08:58 |
| luyao | ok | 08:58 |
| huzhj | I think it is the time to call it a meeting | 08:59 |
| huzhj | have a good weekend | 08:59 |
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| luyao | thanks | 08:59 |
| zhouya | the same to you | 08:59 |
| huzhj | thanks all, bye | 08:59 |
| zhouya | bye | 09:00 |
| kongwei | bye | 09:00 |
| luyao | bye | 09:00 |
| huzhj | #endmeeting | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Aug 5 09:00:12 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/daisycloud/2016/daisycloud.2016-08-05-07.59.html | 09:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/daisycloud/2016/daisycloud.2016-08-05-07.59.txt | 09:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/daisycloud/2016/daisycloud.2016-08-05-07.59.log.html | 09:00 |
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| dhellmann | #startmeeting releaseteam | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Aug 5 14:00:56 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dhellmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 14:00 |
| dhellmann | courtesy ping: ttx, dims, tonyb, stevemar, fungi | 14:01 |
| ttx | o/ | 14:01 |
| * fungi feels he has been done a courtesy | 14:01 | |
| dhellmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-relmgt-tracking | 14:01 |
| dhellmann | this is R-9 on the tracking pad | 14:01 |
| * dims not fully here | 14:01 | |
| * fungi is never _fully_ here | 14:01 | |
| * stevemar also not fully here :) | 14:01 | |
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| * dhellmann prepares to run a partial meeting | 14:02 | |
| dhellmann | #topic automation progress | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "automation progress (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 14:02 | |
| dhellmann | debugging last week and earlier this week uncovered some more issues | 14:02 |
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| dhellmann | we're currently waiting for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349023/ to merge before testing again | 14:03 |
| fungi | the only outstanding topic:artifact-signing now have been approved (1349022, 1349023) | 14:03 |
| fungi | just a few minutes ago | 14:03 |
| dhellmann | yep, so either later today or monday I'll run another test round | 14:03 |
| fungi | should be in place by the end of the meeting | 14:03 |
| dhellmann | oh, right, you don't have to wait for the integrated gate :-) | 14:04 |
| dhellmann | s/you/we/ | 14:04 |
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| dhellmann | let's move on to the main topic for today | 14:04 |
| fungi | and releases are now accompanied on tarballs.o.o by detached openpgp signatures (with the same key that will soon be signing git tags) | 14:04 |
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| fungi | we have a few infra-root keysigs on it too now but need a few more before i'm comfortable | 14:05 |
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| fungi | i'll keep pushing on that | 14:05 |
| dhellmann | good! I think we deferred the task we had to add those links to the releases site, but if we finish some of the other priorities we can work on it | 14:05 |
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| fungi | and i have documentation still outstanding for the releases site, yeah | 14:05 |
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| fungi | also i should get https going for that site soon | 14:05 |
| dhellmann | oh, I meant the links to the signatures, not the keys | 14:05 |
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| fungi | if we expect people to trust key fingerprints we list on it | 14:05 |
| dhellmann | and you'll let us know when you're ready for the release team to sign the keys, too? | 14:06 |
| dhellmann | yes, good point | 14:06 |
| fungi | yep | 14:06 |
| dhellmann | k | 14:06 |
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| dhellmann | I think that covers it, unless there's anything else? | 14:06 |
| fungi | not from me anyway | 14:06 |
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| dhellmann | #topic Cycle status checkup | 14:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cycle status checkup (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 14:07 | |
| dhellmann | I went through the planning document this morning and tried to catch all of the priority items that were still open | 14:07 |
| dhellmann | I've copied them to the meeting agenda to make it easier to talk about them | 14:07 |
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| dhellmann | please quickly look through the list to make sure I didn't miss something you're working on and consider important, and then we'll go through them and check the status and reprioritize as needed | 14:08 |
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| dhellmann | please ack here when you're done with the quick review | 14:08 |
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| * dims reviewing | 14:09 | |
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| ttx | looks complete to me | 14:09 |
| dims | done | 14:09 |
| dhellmann | k | 14:09 |
| dhellmann | documentation, then | 14:09 |
| dhellmann | we talked about clarifying RC patches to avoid having to watch all of them ourselves | 14:10 |
| dhellmann | where would we put that, the PTG? | 14:10 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: sounds good to me | 14:11 |
| ttx | acronym collision detected | 14:11 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: you only just noticed that? I thought you did it on purpose. | 14:11 |
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| dhellmann | documenting it seems like it would also imply leaving it up to teams to manage | 14:11 |
| ttx | heh | 14:12 |
| mordred | we should work on the PTG at the PTG | 14:12 |
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| ttx | we could give a room to the PTG WG at the PTG for the PTG | 14:12 |
| * dhellmann has lost control | 14:12 | |
| dhellmann | ok, tools | 14:12 |
| dims | LOL | 14:12 |
| dhellmann | I agree with the comment in the etherpad that we don't need to build a new dashboard tool | 14:13 |
| dhellmann | the google doc wasn't terrible last time, so we might use that again | 14:13 |
| ttx | We /may/ still track this time, but using old ways | 14:13 |
| dhellmann | right | 14:13 |
| ttx | with an eye on not tracking in the future | 14:13 |
| ttx | so dashboarding might not be the best use of our limited time right now | 14:13 |
| * dhellmann prepares some stern language for the RC period opening email | 14:14 | |
| dhellmann | how about the release announce script? | 14:14 |
| dhellmann | I think that's a change to announce.sh to recognize when the previous release is an rc, and keep looking backwards until it finds something that is a better base | 14:15 |
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| dhellmann | does someone want to volunteer? | 14:15 |
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| ttx | I only have one work week available in next 3 weeks so I prefer to limit promises | 14:16 |
| dhellmann | ok, we'll leave that open for now | 14:16 |
| dhellmann | how about skipping release announcements for milestone server projects? | 14:16 |
| dhellmann | I'm not sure I like this idea, but ttx you felt it was important? | 14:16 |
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| ttx | oh, right. The idea was to be able to send an "Newton released" email | 14:17 |
| dhellmann | right. there's a separate item somewhere to do that automatically when we tag openstack/releases, but I think I deferred that | 14:17 |
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| ttx | if you have tons of emails sent earlier saying Nova 14.0.0 is released, it's a bit harder to "announce" | 14:18 |
| dhellmann | yeah. I guess that final announcement didn't include the version numbers, did it? | 14:18 |
| ttx | it did | 14:19 |
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| ttx | a list of all the components in "Newton" with version numbers | 14:19 |
| dhellmann | it feels a little odd to not send announcement emails for the final releases, when we do send them for the rcs | 14:19 |
| dims | We do need feedback for milestone server releases, right? need folks to kick tires | 14:19 |
| dhellmann | dims : yes, this would be for projects using milestones but when they release their final | 14:19 |
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| ttx | do we annoucne RCs ? | 14:19 |
| dhellmann | projects following cycle-with-milestones | 14:19 |
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| dims | ack dhellmann | 14:20 |
| dhellmann | ttx: I thought so, but maybe not? | 14:20 |
| dhellmann | were we doing those by hand? | 14:20 |
| ttx | IIRC we manually mention them in -dev | 14:20 |
| ttx | *nothing in announce | 14:20 |
| * ttx checks | 14:20 | |
| dhellmann | yeah, that seems right | 14:20 |
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| dhellmann | so if we are going to skip the automatic announcements of finals altogether, we don't need to fix the diffing issue | 14:21 |
| ttx | ok, so re-reading mitaka there were two issues | 14:21 |
| ttx | "announcements contain only | 14:21 |
| ttx | partial release notes (usually only mentioning post-RC1 changes)" | 14:21 |
| dhellmann | that's the diff issue | 14:21 |
| ttx | + the recent flurry of announce emails. We are preparing | 14:22 |
| ttx | for the final Mitaka release | 14:22 |
| ttx | which may or may not be a bug | 14:22 |
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| ttx | For the "Mitaka released" email we just pointed to http://releases.openstack.org/mitaka/, no list of versions | 14:23 |
| dhellmann | the simplest change would be to skip announcing final releases for projects that follow the milestone model | 14:23 |
| dhellmann | I think we talked about release.sh adding metadata to disable announce.sh | 14:23 |
| anteaya | but keeping the emotions, yes? | 14:23 |
| dhellmann | ok, I thought I remembered just linking to the site | 14:23 |
| ttx | so 1/ skipping all RCS and final, 2/ send final and fix release notes so they are complete | 14:23 |
| dhellmann | anteaya : yeah, for when emails are sent | 14:23 |
| anteaya | that is my favourite part of announce.sh | 14:24 |
| anteaya | thank you | 14:24 |
| anteaya | whew | 14:24 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: what would trigger 2? | 14:24 |
| ttx | dhellmann: no I mean, send the announce on tag, like we did in mitaka, but fixing the diff issue | 14:24 |
| ttx | even if that means sending emails out a bit early | 14:25 |
| ttx | 1/ or 2/ | 14:25 |
| dhellmann | oh, sorry, you were summarizing the options, I thought you were summarizing what we were going to do | 14:25 |
| dhellmann | 1 is easier, but I like 2 better | 14:25 |
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| dhellmann | thoughts? | 14:26 |
| ttx | ok, let's go for (2) and drop the idea of somehow silencing announces until everything is ready | 14:26 |
| dhellmann | k | 14:26 |
| dhellmann | process changes | 14:26 |
| ttx | which would be weird (we announce -intermediary-released ones) | 14:26 |
| dhellmann | right, that's why I like 2 better -- fewer special cases | 14:26 |
| ttx | ACL changes are almost ready, that's next topic | 14:27 |
| dhellmann | ttx, you have an item for the acl changes later on the agenda, so I was going to skip going into details for now | 14:27 |
| dhellmann | ok? | 14:27 |
| ttx | yes | 14:27 |
| dhellmann | right, then: reno | 14:27 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: what in that do we absolutely need before end of cycle ? | 14:27 |
| dhellmann | I spent 2 afternoons this week working on the setuptools integration. It works, but tox can't install reno to run the tests without some nasty hacks to tox.ini | 14:27 |
| ttx | are those all nice-to-haves ? | 14:28 |
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| dhellmann | I was hoping to get the release notes into sdists, but it's not a requirement | 14:28 |
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| dhellmann | the rest of that is all nice-to-have, though the i18n team will likely be upset if we don't get the translations working | 14:28 |
| ttx | ok, let's do them best-effort | 14:29 |
| dhellmann | right | 14:29 |
| dhellmann | next up: automation | 14:29 |
| ttx | I think the other items have precedence | 14:29 |
| ttx | (over reno) | 14:29 |
| dhellmann | as we said earlier, we're just waiting for some patches to land before we can run another set of tests there | 14:29 |
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| dhellmann | yes, I agree, the automation is more important (this stuff is just listed in the order it showed up in the planning doc) | 14:29 |
| ttx | for me prio 1 is tools / process / automation | 14:30 |
| dhellmann | I've added NTH to the automation items I think are nice to have | 14:30 |
| ttx | since we need (or would really really like to have) for newton | 14:30 |
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| dhellmann | what would have to change to automate announcements of release candidates? are we actually skipping those or does it just not work? | 14:30 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: My position on RCs is that we should not announce them on -announce. We /can/ announce them on -dev | 14:31 |
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| dhellmann | ok, so we would need to force the "to" address in that case | 14:32 |
| dhellmann | that seems like a NTH, assuming we're not doing any automated announcements now | 14:32 |
| ttx | dhellmann: yes, NTH -- RCs would need to use a different template though (so that they are not "released" | 14:32 |
| ttx | so it's a bit painful to do | 14:32 |
| dhellmann | ah, right, I think the announce job restricts which sorts of tags it pays attention to | 14:33 |
| ttx | could be ocata material | 14:33 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 14:33 |
| dhellmann | moving on then | 14:33 |
| ttx | currently we send them manually on RCs | 14:33 |
| dhellmann | right, I think that's why I wanted to automate it :-) | 14:33 |
| ttx | saying it's out, it will be the final if you don't scream, please test" | 14:33 |
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| dhellmann | the template is a lot simpler, since it doesn't include all of the changes | 14:33 |
| dhellmann | I think I had in mind an entirely new job and new script | 14:34 |
| dhellmann | the requirements team election started today, thank you anteaya! | 14:34 |
| anteaya | thank you dhellmann | 14:34 |
| anteaya | :) | 14:34 |
| dhellmann | I think that will give them time to set up the request to become official before the summit | 14:34 |
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| dhellmann | and I think that's it for the priority items | 14:35 |
| ttx | so we should have assignees for all the non-NTH | 14:35 |
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| ttx | lgtm | 14:36 |
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| dhellmann | I'll look at the announce script, since we're going to defer the reno work | 14:36 |
| dhellmann | and the documentation task, too | 14:36 |
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| dhellmann | ok, I think we have owners for everything then | 14:37 |
| dhellmann | ttx, are you ready to talk about the acl stuff? | 14:37 |
| ttx | yes | 14:37 |
| dhellmann | #topic gerrit acls for release | 14:37 |
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| ttx | The ACL change merged and Gerrit groups (*-release-branch) are all created and owned by release managers | 14:37 |
| ttx | Now I have a small implementation question | 14:38 |
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| ttx | post-release it's pretty clear, the thing is owned by *-stable-maint | 14:38 |
| ttx | pre-release it's less clear, we want it owned by PTLs/release liaisons | 14:38 |
| ttx | + probably Release Managers | 14:39 |
| ttx | There are a number of existing groups that are "PTLs+Release liaisons" already | 14:39 |
| ttx | one are the $PROJECT-release groups | 14:39 |
| ttx | the others are the $PROJECT-milestone groups | 14:39 |
| ttx | I thought we should reuse one of those rather than create a 3rd variant | 14:39 |
| dhellmann | I like $PROJECT-release for this | 14:40 |
| ttx | $PROJECT-release is a better name | 14:40 |
| anteaya | do folks still need -milestone groups? | 14:40 |
| dhellmann | anteaya : I'd have to look, but I don't think so. | 14:40 |
| anteaya | I had thought we had gotten rid of -milestone in favour of release | 14:40 |
| ttx | There are a number of weird cornercase usage in random ACLs, like "Create branch" | 14:40 |
| dhellmann | ttx: we should schedule something for the countdown emails for projects to make sure their groups have the right members | 14:40 |
| ttx | Also some groups are too permissive or do not contain the right folks but we can get that fixed between now and when we'll use it | 14:41 |
| ttx | anteaya: -milestone is still used in some corner ACLs | 14:41 |
| anteaya | ttx: thank you | 14:41 |
| ttx | (sahara, zaqar, designate, murano, neutron, keystone, mistral) | 14:41 |
| ttx | dhellmann: so -release is not perfect but -milestone is even worse | 14:41 |
| ttx | I propose I seed the groups with -release | 14:41 |
| dhellmann | yes, and creating yet a third group will be even worse | 14:42 |
| ttx | and then we clean up | 14:42 |
| dhellmann | ttx: good plan | 14:42 |
| ttx | dhellmann: second question, do we want release managers in the pre-release groups | 14:42 |
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| anteaya | let's also let AJeager know, so he can review new patches with this in mind | 14:42 |
| anteaya | yeah? | 14:42 |
| ttx | anteaya: ack | 14:42 |
| ttx | will do | 14:42 |
| anteaya | thanks | 14:42 |
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| ttx | we could add release managers to -release-branch pre-release, or we can add release managers to -release | 14:43 |
| dhellmann | ttx: probably, to help, but we want to make it clear that we're not going to be reviewing lots of patches | 14:43 |
| ttx | probably better to add us to -release-branch then | 14:43 |
| ttx | (and remove us when post-release | 14:43 |
| dhellmann | yes, that would do it | 14:43 |
| ttx | ok, I'll have to tweak the script a bit | 14:43 |
| ttx | (currently it just adds release managers all the time) | 14:43 |
| ttx | OK, I think I have a plan | 14:45 |
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| dhellmann | ok | 14:45 |
| ttx | I'll seed -release-branch with RMs + -release today to test my script | 14:45 |
| dhellmann | sounds good | 14:46 |
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| dhellmann | I added a doc task for this, too | 14:46 |
| dhellmann | is there anything else for that? | 14:47 |
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| ttx | We shoudl copy all the actions to the plan page somewhere, rather than only have them in the meeting notes | 14:47 |
| dhellmann | yes, I'll do that after the meeting | 14:47 |
| dhellmann | I'll update the priorities, too | 14:47 |
| * ttx moves actions to the cycle status check paragraph just above | 14:47 | |
| dhellmann | ++ | 14:48 |
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| ttx | ok done | 14:48 |
| dhellmann | ok | 14:49 |
| dhellmann | #topic governance reviews related to release | 14:49 |
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| ttx | I found two reviews of interest | 14:49 |
| dhellmann | the first one looks like it needs some discussion about which model to use | 14:49 |
| ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/350504/1 | 14:49 |
| ttx | yes just wanted to raise profile | 14:49 |
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| ttx | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351433/1 | 14:49 |
| dhellmann | if they aren't going to tag, it seems like release:none is ok. that does not preclude stable branches | 14:49 |
| ttx | second one is just a repo split | 14:50 |
| dhellmann | yeah, that's going to mean updating deliverable files in the releases repo, too | 14:50 |
| ttx | which since they were using -intermediary is painless | 14:50 |
| ttx | BUT we need to split the files, yes that | 14:50 |
| dhellmann | when I suggested setting the type, I didn't realize it was part of the same deliverable | 14:50 |
| dhellmann | but it's not a big deal, we just need to split the deliverable | 14:51 |
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| ttx | ack yes | 14:51 |
| dhellmann | so far there's only a mitaka file, so it won't be much work | 14:51 |
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| dhellmann | so +1 on the gov change, and I can do the deliverable change when that merges | 14:52 |
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| dhellmann | and comment left on the otherone | 14:52 |
| dhellmann | #topic open discussion | 14:53 |
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| dhellmann | is there anything else to go over this week? | 14:53 |
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| ttx | nope, I'm away Mon-Thu | 14:53 |
| ttx | so someone else (again) will have to take my release day :/ | 14:53 |
| dhellmann | ok, we can cover | 14:53 |
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| ttx | oh, one thing | 14:54 |
| ttx | there is no mistral-release group | 14:54 |
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| dhellmann | we can create it, though, right? | 14:54 |
| ttx | fungi: is that something that can be added ? | 14:55 |
| ttx | dhellmann: not sure as they usually derive from usage in ACL files | 14:55 |
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| dhellmann | so it would be created empty after the patch to set up the acls for stable/newton? | 14:55 |
| ttx | unfortunately no. It's used only indirectly | 14:56 |
| dhellmann | oh, right | 14:56 |
| ttx | ACL uses -release-branch, which points to -release pre-release | 14:56 |
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| ttx | (and to -stable-maint post-release | 14:56 |
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| dhellmann | right, so it's not directly mentioned | 14:56 |
| dhellmann | this won't be the only time this comes up, so we should include this in the procedures list | 14:56 |
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| dhellmann | I'll add that as an action | 14:57 |
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| ttx | ok, I'll chase down infra to solve that one, please endmeeting | 14:57 |
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| anteaya | some gerrit acl file would have to mention the group | 14:57 |
| anteaya | in order for it to be created | 14:57 |
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| ttx | ok, so that is a problem with the indirection approach to the problem | 14:58 |
| ttx | I'll take that offline | 14:58 |
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| dhellmann | yeah, I'm sure that can be solved | 14:58 |
| dhellmann | well, we're about out of time and I think we've covered anything, so I'll close us out | 14:59 |
| dhellmann | thank you, everyone! | 14:59 |
| fungi | ttx: sorry, got sidetracked fixing something. reading | 14:59 |
| fungi | ttx: yeah, we can add a mistral-release group manually | 14:59 |
| ttx | fungi: that would be great, I need to add it to mistral-release-branch | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | good | 15:00 |
| ttx | we can solve group members another day | 15:00 |
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| ttx | (though adding mistral(s PTL in it wouldn't hurt | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | ok, times up, so I'll clear the room for the next meeting | 15:00 |
| ttx | cheers | 15:00 |
| dhellmann | thanks again, everyone | 15:01 |
| dhellmann | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Aug 5 15:01:01 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2016/releaseteam.2016-08-05-14.00.html | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2016/releaseteam.2016-08-05-14.00.txt | 15:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2016/releaseteam.2016-08-05-14.00.log.html | 15:01 |
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