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| aspiers | the review moving the HA meeting an hour later just got merged ... so should we have the meeting now or in an hour? :) | 08:02 |
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| aspiers | beekhof *might* have spotted the change | 08:03 |
| radeks | not too many people here right now | 08:05 |
| radeks | probably in 1h will be more | 08:05 |
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| beekhof | i did, but we had a schedule change at home tonight | 08:58 |
| aspiers | hah | 08:59 |
| aspiers | we just can't win | 08:59 |
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| aspiers | #startmeeting ha | 09:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 8 09:02:34 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is aspiers. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ha' | 09:02 |
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| ddeja | o/ | 09:02 |
| aspiers | ok hi everyone, and welcome to the "new" (old) meeting time | 09:02 |
| samP | hi o/ | 09:03 |
| aspiers | please bear with me today if I am slow, as I am currently on two meetings at once :) | 09:03 |
| Dinesh_Bhor | hi o/ | 09:03 |
| aspiers | but hopefully the other one will not require too much of my attention | 09:03 |
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| katomo | o/ | 09:03 |
| aspiers | hi all, and welcome to any recent joiners :) | 09:04 |
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| aspiers | #topic Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) | 09:04 |
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| aspiers | samP: thanks a lot for your spec! I am currently reviewing it | 09:04 |
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| aspiers | samP: if it's ok I will just upload a new patch set with some minor edits? | 09:05 |
| samP | aspiers: Thanks | 09:05 |
| samP | aspiers: sure | 09:05 |
| aspiers | ok | 09:05 |
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| aspiers | btw I think my comment about a link in the index was wrong | 09:05 |
| aspiers | it seems to have automatically linked | 09:05 |
| aspiers | the HTML rendered view is viewable from the Jenkins job build link | 09:06 |
| aspiers | http://docs-draft.openstack.org/17/352217/2/check/gate-openstack-resource-agents-specs-docs-ubuntu-xenial/84fd365//doc/build/html/specs/newton/approved/newton-instance-ha-vm-monitoring-spec.html | 09:06 |
| aspiers | BTW this is the review we are talking about, for those who don't know: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352217/ | 09:07 |
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| ddeja | My status: only 3 days of regular work last week. Mostly adjusting to new role in mistral by doing lots of reviews, not diretly related to VM HA unfortunately. | 09:07 |
| aspiers | no problem :) good luck with the reviews | 09:08 |
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| samP | aspiers: about review, I need you attention on "Proposed Change" | 09:08 |
| aspiers | samP: sure, I will review the whole thing | 09:09 |
| samP | aspiers: thanks | 09:09 |
| * ddeja will also review | 09:09 | |
| samP | ddeja: thanks | 09:09 |
| aspiers | samP: but I think we probably already agreed on the approach - the masakari way seems best IIRC | 09:09 |
| samP | aspiers: yes we did. Ok then, I will proceed with libvirt monitoring for VM monitoring | 09:10 |
| aspiers | samP: I think the spec will be more about documenting this decision and then deciding the integration points | 09:11 |
| samP | Now, I can complete the VM recovery spec | 09:11 |
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| aspiers | another update: I attended a meeting about cinder-volume active/active | 09:11 |
| samP | aspiers: sure | 09:11 |
| aspiers | I think I forgot to report that last week | 09:11 |
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| aspiers | there is still design discussion to be had, especially around fencing | 09:12 |
| aspiers | they have a weekly meeting in case anyone is interested | 09:12 |
| samP | aspiers: great. that also a very important topic for us | 09:12 |
| ddeja | aspiers: well, I can contact you with ma colleague who is Cinder core reviewer | 09:12 |
| aspiers | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-active-active-HA | 09:12 |
| ddeja | and doing cinder A/A from liberty | 09:13 |
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| ddeja | and is sitting next to me in office ;) | 09:13 |
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| aspiers | oh, cool! | 09:14 |
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| aspiers | will he attend the future cinder meetings? | 09:14 |
| aspiers | what is his name? | 09:14 |
| ddeja | I'm sure he will | 09:14 |
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| ddeja | dulek | 09:14 |
| ddeja | on IRC | 09:14 |
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| aspiers | maybe he can be added to the list of nicks to ping for that meeting? | 09:15 |
| ddeja | he's on two weeks vacation starting today, so I'm not sure if he would attend. | 09:15 |
| aspiers | ok | 09:16 |
| aspiers | I'll add his nick for future meetings | 09:16 |
| ddeja | OK | 09:16 |
| aspiers | any other status reports? | 09:17 |
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| samP | other than spec, not from my side | 09:19 |
| aspiers | ok | 09:19 |
| aspiers | #topic Barcelona | 09:19 |
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| aspiers | IIRC, today is the deadline for voting for sessions | 09:19 |
| aspiers | so if you haven't yet voted (like me), please do it quickly ;-) | 09:19 |
| aspiers | also I got a reply from ttx about the HA track | 09:20 |
| aspiers | as you can see on the list | 09:20 |
| samP | aspiers: thanks for mail | 09:21 |
| aspiers | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/100679.html | 09:22 |
| aspiers | then I followed up on openstack-operators | 09:22 |
| aspiers | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2016-August/011154.html | 09:22 |
| aspiers | but no replies yet :-( | 09:22 |
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| aspiers | so it looks like we will have to wait until after Barcelona | 09:23 |
| aspiers | although maybe we can chase ops meetup organisers directly | 09:23 |
| samP | aspiers: ops meetup at NY would be a good place | 09:23 |
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| aspiers | samP: yes, you are going right? | 09:24 |
| samP | aspiers: yes, | 09:24 |
| aspiers | samP: maybe you could talk to them about this last email? | 09:24 |
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| samP | aspiers: Im discussing with some ops people, hope fully I can spread the word and ask some support | 09:25 |
| aspiers | perfect! | 09:25 |
| aspiers | on the compute HA topic, I think we should set some goals to achieve before Barcelona | 09:25 |
| aspiers | IMHO minimum would be: | 09:25 |
| aspiers | - finish all specs (including cross-project spec) | 09:25 |
| aspiers | - update HA guide with status quo | 09:26 |
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| aspiers | - start the ball rolling with at least a little bit of collaborative hacking :) | 09:26 |
| aspiers | anything else? | 09:26 |
| ddeja | I think no | 09:27 |
| samP | shouldn't we document our roadmap? is thant the presentation or spec? | 09:27 |
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| aspiers | samP: good question | 09:29 |
| samP | If the presentation get accepted, then that will be the doc for future roadmap | 09:29 |
| aspiers | samP: yes, although the specs will also define the roadmap | 09:29 |
| beekhof | are we still going? | 09:30 |
| aspiers | beekhof: yes | 09:30 |
| beekhof | i have a few moments :) | 09:30 |
| aspiers | beekhof: anything you wanna bring up? | 09:30 |
| aspiers | Barcelona or otherwise? | 09:30 |
| beekhof | i should probably do a docs blueprint | 09:30 |
| aspiers | ok | 09:31 |
| ddeja | beekhof: please add me for review when you submit it | 09:31 |
| beekhof | also, are there any greivances about my arch proposals? | 09:31 |
| aspiers | beekhof: yes :) | 09:31 |
| katomo | beekhof: thanks | 09:32 |
| aspiers | beekhof: but I think I mentioned most of them privately already, so no huge surprises | 09:32 |
| aspiers | beekhof: IIRC, the main ones are monitoring and DRBD8 | 09:32 |
| beekhof | ok, so only disagreements about things you're wrong about :) | 09:32 |
| aspiers | if you don't want real monitoring, that's fine by me ;-p | 09:33 |
| beekhof | i meant to ask... you're using drbd for the database? | 09:33 |
| aspiers | some customers, not all | 09:33 |
| aspiers | shared storage also supported | 09:33 |
| beekhof | you're the one without real monitoring :) | 09:33 |
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| beekhof | unless you replace all the systemd scripts with OCF, i would argue that "pacemaker" monitoring is worse than nagios and friends | 09:34 |
| beekhof | BUT | 09:34 |
| aspiers | agreed, and that's what we'll do | 09:34 |
| beekhof | you'll maintain OCF agents? | 09:35 |
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| aspiers | #topic control plane architecture | 09:35 |
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| aspiers | beekhof: I'm the maintainer already | 09:35 |
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| beekhof | but for every single openstack daemon? | 09:35 |
| aspiers | sure | 09:35 |
| aspiers | beekhof: not claiming to be doing a great job yet, but I believe in the mission | 09:35 |
| * beekhof runs from the mission | 09:36 | |
| aspiers | pid-only monitoring is dumb | 09:36 |
| beekhof | agreed | 09:36 |
| beekhof | in any case, i think we can structure the docs to accomodate both variants with minimal problems | 09:37 |
| beekhof | someone from your side is prepared to write that bit? | 09:37 |
| aspiers | sure | 09:39 |
| aspiers | puzzled why you are choosing an approach you just agreed is dumb, but I won't try to stop you ;-) | 09:39 |
| aspiers | I appreciate it makes things a lot simpler though | 09:40 |
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| aspiers | ok | 09:41 |
| aspiers | #topic AOB | 09:41 |
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| beekhof | nagios etc wont be doing pid only monitoring either | 09:41 |
| aspiers | anything else? | 09:41 |
| aspiers | nagios won't be doing fencing either | 09:41 |
| beekhof | but neither will pacemaker be doing pid only monitoring via systemd | 09:41 |
| beekhof | no-one ever wants the node fenced because the openstack service died | 09:42 |
| beekhof | we'll still fence (via pacemaker-remote failures) if the node as a whole goes down | 09:42 |
| beekhof | AOB? | 09:43 |
| aspiers | Any Other Business | 09:43 |
| beekhof | ah | 09:43 |
| aspiers | for some openstack services, I *definitely* want the node fenced if the service died and can't be restarted | 09:44 |
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| beekhof | which ones? because this point has been made very clear to me | 09:45 |
| beekhof | cinder i guess? | 09:46 |
| beekhof | aspiers: ^^^ | 09:47 |
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| aspiers | anything stateful, at least | 09:47 |
| beekhof | my understanding is that all the state is in rabbit queues | 09:48 |
| aspiers | nope | 09:49 |
| beekhof | and the daemons are just pulling jobs off a queue and processing them | 09:49 |
| aspiers | the API daemons, yes | 09:50 |
| aspiers | but maybe we should declare the meeting over before we continue this :) | 09:51 |
| aspiers | OTOH, it might make for interesting reading in the minutes | 09:52 |
| aspiers | so what are you planning to monitor via nagios? | 09:52 |
| aspiers | beekhof: ^^^ | 09:54 |
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| beekhof | i dont think its nagios | 09:57 |
| beekhof | they have some package in mind but the name escapes me | 09:57 |
| aspiers | ok, same question applies though | 09:57 |
| aspiers | but let's close the meeting and continue on #openstack-ha | 09:57 |
| beekhof | happy to close the meeting for now.... bedtime run is imminent :) | 09:57 |
| aspiers | ok :) | 09:57 |
| aspiers | #endmeeting | 09:57 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 8 09:57:43 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-08-08-09.02.html | 09:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-08-08-09.02.txt | 09:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-08-08-09.02.log.html | 09:57 |
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| andreykurilin1 | #startmeeting Rally | 14:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 8 14:03:58 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is andreykurilin1. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Rally)" | 14:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rally' | 14:04 |
| andreykurilin1 | o/ | 14:04 |
| sskripnick | sup | 14:04 |
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| amaretskiy | hi | 14:04 |
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| andreykurilin1 | let's wait several minutes | 14:05 |
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| andreykurilin1 | ok | 14:10 |
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| andreykurilin1 | it looks like we do not have a lot of attendees and topics to discuss in our agenda | 14:11 |
| andreykurilin1 | Does anybody have something to discuss? | 14:11 |
| amaretskiy | тщзу | 14:11 |
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| amaretskiy | *nope | 14:11 |
| rvasilets___ | nope | 14:12 |
| rvasilets___ | I'm working on validators | 14:12 |
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| andreykurilin1 | ok, let's skip meeting today :( | 14:13 |
| andreykurilin1 | #endmeeting | 14:13 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 8 14:13:07 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:13 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2016/rally.2016-08-08-14.03.html | 14:13 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2016/rally.2016-08-08-14.03.txt | 14:13 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2016/rally.2016-08-08-14.03.log.html | 14:13 |
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| anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 8 15:00:41 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:00 |
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| anteaya | hello | 15:00 |
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| anteaya | I seem to be alone so far | 15:03 |
| mmedvede | hi anteaya, I am here, but in the other meetings | 15:03 |
| anteaya | which is fine, I take that to mean everyone's systems are humming along nicely and they are off doing other things | 15:03 |
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| anteaya | mmedvede: ah I see | 15:03 |
| anteaya | mmedvede: anything of any import today? | 15:04 |
| mmedvede | +1, our CI humming along nicely | 15:04 |
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| anteaya | mmedvede: yay! | 15:04 |
| mmedvede | and no, nothing of importance from me | 15:04 |
| anteaya | thank you | 15:04 |
| anteaya | I'll wait a few more minutes to see if anyone else wanders by | 15:05 |
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| asselin | in another meeting, but wanted to notify everyone of pins to JJB proposed in puppet-openstackci. | 15:06 |
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| asselin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/351865/ | 15:06 |
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| asselin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348035/ | 15:07 |
| anteaya | asselin: thank you | 15:07 |
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| anteaya | both are merged | 15:09 |
| anteaya | anyone else have anything? | 15:09 |
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| anteaya | anyone have any objection to me closing the meeting? | 15:10 |
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| anteaya | thanks for popping in, it is a lovey day where I am, I hope it is a great day where you are | 15:11 |
| anteaya | enjoy the rest of your day/evening | 15:11 |
| anteaya | see you all next week | 15:11 |
| anteaya | thank you | 15:11 |
| anteaya | #endmeeting | 15:11 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 8 15:11:16 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:11 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-08-08-15.00.html | 15:11 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-08-08-15.00.txt | 15:11 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-08-08-15.00.log.html | 15:11 |
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| rakhmerov | #startmeeting Mistral | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 8 16:00:12 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rakhmerov. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mistral' | 16:00 |
| rakhmerov | hi | 16:00 |
| mgershen | o/ | 16:00 |
| ddeja | hello | 16:00 |
| d0ugal | Hey! | 16:00 |
| hparekh_ | hi | 16:00 |
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| rakhmerov | hi all | 16:00 |
| rbrady | hi | 16:01 |
| rakhmerov | hi | 16:01 |
| rakhmerov | ok, let's go through our typical list of topics | 16:01 |
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| rakhmerov | #topic Review Action Items | 16:02 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Review Action Items (Meeting topic: Mistral)" | 16:02 | |
| rakhmerov | 1. rakhmerov: find out with hparekh if "hparekh_: create a BP for YAQL functions API" is done | 16:02 |
| rakhmerov | hparekh_: ? | 16:02 |
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| hparekh_ | rakhmerov: done | 16:02 |
| rakhmerov | ok ) | 16:02 |
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| d0ugal | \o/ | 16:02 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Current status (progress, issues, roadblocks, further plans) | 16:03 |
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| rakhmerov | my status: making required changes in order to remove pessimistic locks from engine, really close, basically just 'with-items' left (almost done too) | 16:03 |
| ddeja | My status: Only 3 days of regular work; mostly reviews. | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | other than that: reviews and other small bugs | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | ddeja: ok ) | 16:04 |
| rakhmerov | ddeja: how was your conf/meetup? | 16:04 |
| d0ugal | Most of my time is taken up with getting TripleO to use Mistral. Otherwise I fixed my first bug with ddeja's help :) | 16:04 |
| rbrady | status: I pushed up a WIP patch and sent email to the list. Looking at adding some of the other util methods (e.g. get_execution_id, etc) | 16:04 |
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| hparekh_ | my status: finished SSL support for mistral. little work is pending at client side. Reviewed some patches. | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: congrats! | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | :) | 16:05 |
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| d0ugal | ... and now I'm looking for other small-ish bugs I can work on while focusing on the TripleO work. | 16:05 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: Thanks! | 16:05 |
| ddeja | rakhmerov: It was OK. There was some people from Nokia Poland ;) Also some guys want to try Mistral for Automatic Evacuation, so it si good I guess | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: let's take it offline for tomorrow, ok? | 16:05 |
| rakhmerov | ping me and we'll find something | 16:05 |
| mgershen | I worked on the db migrations and now on adding rally tests to check workflow execution performance | 16:05 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: sure, sounds good. I have one I am starting to look at too | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | ddeja: ok | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: ok | 16:06 |
| ddeja | d0ugal: or you can ping me, I have one small item to fix :) | 16:06 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov, ddeja: I think you both might keep me very busy lol | 16:06 |
| rakhmerov | :) np | 16:07 |
| ddeja | we can try I guess ;) | 16:07 |
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| rakhmerov | mgershen: cool, keep in mind that we're waiting for a migration for 'unique_key' column ;) | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | especially folks from Red Hat | 16:07 |
| d0ugal | and TripleO :) | 16:07 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:08 |
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| rakhmerov | mgershen: so I would ask you to create a migration first and then switch back to Rally | 16:08 |
| mgershen | I think it's in haha | 16:08 |
| mgershen | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352376/ | 16:09 |
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| rakhmerov | mgershen: hm... what do you mean? | 16:09 |
| rakhmerov | wait a sec.. | 16:09 |
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| rakhmerov | oooh, you guys are really fast! | 16:09 |
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| rakhmerov | I didn't even have a chance to look at it :) | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | good, ok | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | mgershen: sorry, I missed it | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | please proceed with Rally | 16:10 |
| d0ugal | mgershen: we very much appreciated it :) | 16:10 |
| mgershen | np :) | 16:10 |
| rakhmerov | mgershen: and I also assigned another bug to you today, you probably saw it | 16:10 |
| d0ugal | Is there a way we can test the migrations to avoid that happening? | 16:10 |
| d0ugal | I should maybe wait for open discussion to chat about it more... | 16:11 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: we should, definitely | 16:11 |
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| rakhmerov | "not enough hands" is our main problem atm though ) | 16:11 |
| d0ugal | Right | 16:11 |
| mgershen | yes, I did, I'll do after the rally test | 16:11 |
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| rakhmerov | other big projects test migrations automatically, yes | 16:11 |
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| d0ugal | rakhmerov: Okay, shall I create a bug? I could look into that. | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | d0ugal: it would be nice of you | 16:12 |
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| rakhmerov | please | 16:12 |
| d0ugal | Sure, doing that :) | 16:12 |
| rakhmerov | ok, so I don't actually have any specific topics for this meeting | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | let's go to open discussion | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | #topic Open Discussion | 16:13 |
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| d0ugal | rakhmerov: Do you know of an example project that is already doing the migration tests? | 16:13 |
| rakhmerov | raise your topics, if any | 16:13 |
| hparekh_ | rakhmerov: Have you get chance to look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/1609335 ? | 16:13 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1609335 in Mistral "Retry get executed even if action is success" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Lucky samadhiya (lucky-samadhiya) | 16:13 |
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| mgershen | d0ugal: don't add the test yet, we still have need to migrate the data in executions table to the new ones | 16:13 |
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| rakhmerov | d0ugal: I believe any big project like Nova or Nuetron | 16:14 |
| d0ugal | mgershen: ah, okay. I'll just start to look into it. | 16:14 |
| d0ugal | rakhmerov: k, I'll take a look. | 16:14 |
| rakhmerov | yep | 16:14 |
| hparekh_ | rakhmerov: Actually tacker folks use this. | 16:14 |
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| d0ugal | It would also be good to run the tests against real databases, I set this up in a previous project too | 16:14 |
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| rakhmerov | hparekh_: use what? automatic tests for migrations? | 16:15 |
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| hparekh_ | No Its about 'on-continue' :) | 16:15 |
| hparekh_ | the link I shared | 16:15 |
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| rakhmerov | ooh, I still haven't looked at it | 16:16 |
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| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov: look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/mistral/+bug/1609335 | 16:16 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1609335 in Mistral "Retry get executed even if action is success" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Lucky samadhiya (lucky-samadhiya) | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | sorry, I've been too focused on my performance stuff | 16:16 |
| hparekh_ | rakhmerov: Thanks | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | forgot the names of my kids... | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | kind of | 16:16 |
| rakhmerov | hparekh_: will do, no worries | 16:17 |
| hparekh_ | rakhmerov: Its Ok no issue :) | 16:17 |
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| rakhmerov | hparekh_: the semantics I told you lately in our channel is really what it does | 16:17 |
| rakhmerov | however, I totally agree it's confusing | 16:17 |
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| rakhmerov | hparekh_: it came from a specific use case and I am not sure that it's ok in general | 16:18 |
| rakhmerov | we'll need to clarify this, at least improve our docs | 16:18 |
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| rakhmerov | rbrady: how is your stuff going on? | 16:18 |
| hparekh_ | rakhmerov: Actually Its not working as we discuss. Also the description on blueprint and the one we discuss are conflicting each other | 16:19 |
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| rakhmerov | hparekh_: ok, maybe. I believe very few people use it and it may not be tested well | 16:19 |
| rakhmerov | hparekh_: also, I'd recommend to hold off with that for now till I make fixes in 'with-items' (currently working on) | 16:20 |
| rbrady | rakhmerov: added a patch and sent mail to list to solicit feedback about the approach. Need to add a few more utility methods. | 16:20 |
| rakhmerov | it's kind of related | 16:20 |
| rakhmerov | rbrady: ok | 16:20 |
| hparekh_ | rakhmerov: Ok | 16:20 |
| rakhmerov | #action rakhmerov: take a look at the patch sent by rbrady and ML message | 16:20 |
| rakhmerov | ddeja: just noticed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352480/ | 16:21 |
| rakhmerov | cool | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | is zmq something really demanded at Intel or you're just reaching for feature parity with o.m? | 16:22 |
| ddeja | rakhmerov: no problem. It took me more time then I think it would thou | 16:22 |
| ddeja | rakhmerov: well, not really | 16:22 |
| rakhmerov | that's no problem, it took much less time that I thought it would take :) | 16:23 |
| ddeja | the point is, get_rpc_info_from_oslo is run on start of every service | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:23 |
| ddeja | so we do not want it to raise an exception when someone is using zmq at the start | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | right | 16:23 |
| rakhmerov | totally agree | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | good job | 16:24 |
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| ddeja | it's just a fix so we do not break mistral+zmq in Newton | 16:24 |
| rakhmerov | yes | 16:24 |
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| rakhmerov | ok, I don't have anything else from my side, targeting to finish my current stuff by the middle of the week (maybe tomorrow) | 16:25 |
| rakhmerov | I'll send out an announcement in ML once it's done | 16:25 |
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| rakhmerov | anything else from you guys? | 16:26 |
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| ddeja | nothing from my side | 16:26 |
| rakhmerov | if no, we can end the meeting | 16:26 |
| d0ugal | Nothing from me | 16:26 |
| d0ugal | rbrady: I will review you patch tomorrow | 16:26 |
| rbrady | d0ugal: thanks | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | yeah, I'm looking forward to review it too | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | ok, let's finish earlier today and save some time | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | thanks for coming | 16:27 |
| d0ugal | Thanks! | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | bye and have a great week | 16:27 |
| hparekh_ | thanks | 16:27 |
| rbrady | thanks. bye | 16:27 |
| ddeja | thanks, bye | 16:27 |
| rakhmerov | #endmeeting | 16:28 |
| mgershen | bye | 16:28 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 8 16:28:06 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:28 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2016/mistral.2016-08-08-16.00.html | 16:28 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mistral/2016/mistral.2016-08-08-16.00.txt | 16:28 |
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| ianychoi | #startmeeting training-guides | 17:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 8 17:05:23 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ianychoi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:05 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'training_guides' | 17:05 |
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| ianychoi | Anybody here for training-guides meeting? | 17:05 |
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| ianychoi | Oops.. it should be the next week. | 17:07 |
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| ianychoi | #info Training-guides meeting will have on 17:00 UTC on 1st and 3rd Monday. | 17:08 |
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| ianychoi | #endmeeting | 17:09 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 8 17:09:06 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:09 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/training_guides/2016/training_guides.2016-08-08-17.05.html | 17:09 |
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| ryanpetrello | #startmeeting astara | 18:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 8 18:01:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ryanpetrello. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'astara' | 18:01 |
| ryanpetrello | o/ rods markmcclain adam_g elo | 18:02 |
| rods | o/ | 18:02 |
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| ryanpetrello | looks like an empty room here toady | 18:04 |
| ryanpetrello | also, *today* | 18:04 |
| ryanpetrello | I don't really have much to report on | 18:04 |
| ryanpetrello | I'm working on unbreaking the dvsm job in the gate | 18:04 |
| ryanpetrello | it's been busted since last week | 18:04 |
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| ryanpetrello | I started working on it and then - surprise! - I got strep throat and was bedridden for the rest of the week :) | 18:05 |
| ryanpetrello | feeling better now, so taking a peek at it | 18:05 |
| ryanpetrello | anything from you rods? | 18:05 |
| rods | nope | 18:05 |
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| ryanpetrello | okee | 18:05 |
| ryanpetrello | calling it, then | 18:05 |
| ryanpetrello | #endmeeting | 18:05 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 8 18:05:42 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:05 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/astara/2016/astara.2016-08-08-18.01.html | 18:05 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/astara/2016/astara.2016-08-08-18.01.txt | 18:05 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/astara/2016/astara.2016-08-08-18.01.log.html | 18:05 |
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| armax | hello | 20:59 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 20:59 |
| johnsom | o/ | 20:59 |
| amuller | hiya | 20:59 |
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| haleyb | hi | 21:00 |
| dasm | \o | 21:00 |
| electrocucaracha | o/ | 21:00 |
| hichihara | hi | 21:00 |
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| armax | #startmeeting networking | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Aug 8 21:00:34 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:00 |
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| trevormc | o/ | 21:00 |
| HenryG | o/ | 21:00 |
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| armax | hello everyone | 21:01 |
| jschwarz | \o/ | 21:01 |
| njohnston_ | o/ | 21:01 |
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| armax | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:02 |
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| armax | #topic Announcements | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:02 | |
| ihrachys | late o/ | 21:02 |
| armax | as some of you might have noticed from the ML, there’s a patch up for review to make Neutron the default networking for DevStack | 21:02 |
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| armax | during the review process a few things were spotted | 21:03 |
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| armax | like OVH, which is one of the cloud providers OpenStack infra is using that doesn’t exectly like the current patch | 21:03 |
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| armax | the dislike manifests itself by breaking one of the tempest tests for DVR | 21:03 |
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| hichihara | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/100888.html ? | 21:05 |
| armax | hichihara: yes, links are provided on the meeting wiki page | 21:06 |
| hichihara | armax: Ah, I didn't notice. | 21:06 |
| armax | the course of action as we stand is to merge the default switch, skip the test, solve the issue and unskip the test | 21:06 |
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| amuller | do we know why that test fails on only one cloud? | 21:06 |
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| dasm | amuller: just ovh hardware seems to be affected | 21:07 |
| amuller | the root cause might change our strategy | 21:07 |
| armax | amuller: it looks like it’s related on how the underlying networking box is configured | 21:07 |
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| armax | so we’ll have to see | 21:09 |
| haleyb | perhaps a quick tempest test that tried to ping 10.x.y.199 would work - the assumption is something in their setup is responding | 21:09 |
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| armax | another reminder is the mid-cycle next week | 21:11 |
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| armax | we currently have these topics to discuss: | 21:12 |
| armax | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-neutron-midcycle-workitems | 21:12 |
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| armax | we’ll provide a status update when we get back | 21:12 |
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| Sukhdev | armax : Is there any plan for remote setup to participate in mid-cycle? | 21:13 |
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| armax | Sukhdev: the usual IRC participation | 21:13 |
| armax | Sukhdev: so, none in particular | 21:13 |
| Sukhdev | armax : can we not set one up? | 21:13 |
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| Sukhdev | armax : I would love to participate remotely? | 21:14 |
| njohnston_ | +1 | 21:14 |
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| armax | Sukhdev: if someone wants to volunteer, by all means | 21:14 |
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| Sukhdev | armax: I am not familiar with the process to set it up - but. have partcipated in remote mid-cycle for Ironic | 21:15 |
| armax | Sukhdev: though experience showed us that things don’t work very smoothly | 21:15 |
| Sukhdev | it was very effective | 21:15 |
| Sukhdev | OpenStack has phone lines that can be used by using laptops | 21:15 |
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| HenryG | We'll be grouped up according to the work items, so I suggest to find someone in a group to set up something on their laptop. | 21:16 |
| HenryG | Volunteers can put their names on the etherpad? | 21:17 |
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| armax | HenryG: Sukhdev let’s add some pointers on the etherpad | 21:18 |
| Sukhdev | Let me dig up the logistics to setup the conf call facilities offered by OpenStack and then we can go from there | 21:19 |
| armax | there’s the timezone to factor in, but if folks are interested we should be able to engage them | 21:19 |
| armax | ok let’s move on | 21:20 |
| armax | #topic Blueprints | 21:21 |
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| armax | We’re getting closer to the end of N-3 | 21:21 |
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| armax | some blueprints have still their whiteboards that are many months old | 21:21 |
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| armax | as blueprint assignee/approver have the the duty to provide a regular update on the progress of the effort | 21:22 |
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| armax | for the sake of people who are interested but cannot be involved on the day to day | 21:22 |
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| armax | I am reaching out the individual assignees/approvers to assess the latest status for the targeted efforts | 21:23 |
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| armax | it’ll be a huge favor to me, amongst others, if blueprints whiteboards were up to date | 21:23 |
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| armax | #topic Bugs and gate failures | 21:25 |
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| armax | electrocucaracha was our deputy for the week | 21:25 |
| electrocucaracha | :) | 21:26 |
| electrocucaracha | there were a couple o critical | 21:26 |
| electrocucaracha | 1562878 | 21:26 |
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| armax | bug 1562878 | 21:27 |
| openstack | bug 1562878 in neutron "L3 HA: Unable to complete operation on subnet" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1562878 - Assigned to Ann Taraday (akamyshnikova) | 21:27 |
| armax | electrocucaracha: ack | 21:27 |
| armax | I am looking at Grafana | 21:27 |
| armax | and the unit test pipeline doesn’t look happy | 21:27 |
| armax | #link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=3&fullscreen | 21:28 |
| electrocucaracha | sorry that one is too old | 21:28 |
| armax | anyone knows the root cause? | 21:28 |
| amuller | that bug is mixing two issues | 21:28 |
| amuller | the part that is specific to HA routers is low or medium priority | 21:28 |
| amuller | the gate issue is not specific to HA routers and is higher priority... | 21:28 |
| amuller | it should be split to two bugs | 21:28 |
| armax | also it looks like greande is busted too in the gate queue | 21:28 |
| armax | but I think that’s for nova-net | 21:28 |
| armax | no, actually that’s gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-multinode | 21:29 |
| electrocucaracha | basically, 1610960 1609693 and 1609540 were from this week | 21:29 |
| HenryG | armax: I did not notice the py35 problem till now. I can look into it. | 21:29 |
| ihrachys | armax: that one we are about to solve, first patch in gate to merge. | 21:29 |
| armax | oh boy | 21:29 |
| armax | the gate is a disaster | 21:29 |
| ihrachys | armax: resolution https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352454/ | 21:29 |
| armax | http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=8&fullscreen | 21:30 |
| ihrachys | and it's not us, yay. | 21:30 |
| ihrachys | :( | 21:30 |
| armax | ihrachys: ack | 21:30 |
| dasm | armax: bug 1610960 gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-multinode should be soon fixed | 21:30 |
| openstack | bug 1610960 in neutron "Invalid input for external_gateway_info. Reason: '' is not a valid UUID." [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1610960 | 21:30 |
| ihrachys | should solve grenade failures. but I see dvr is not happy either. | 21:31 |
| armax | ihrachys: ok, so I can look into the unit test failure | 21:31 |
| armax | the failure on the lib periodic job is also a known issue | 21:31 |
| armax | HenryG: any update? | 21:31 |
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| HenryG | Known since when? | 21:32 |
| armax | since the last time we spoke? :) | 21:32 |
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| HenryG | Oh, I though that patch had merged. | 21:32 |
| armax | um | 21:32 |
| armax | then we’re not quite out of the woods yet | 21:32 |
| ihrachys | HenryG: the hacking rules one? nope, it's not | 21:33 |
| HenryG | armax: the patch is https://review.openstack.org/350723 -- I'll sync with boden | 21:33 |
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| armax | HenryG, ihrachys ack | 21:33 |
| armax | ok, ihrachys you’re looking into the dvr instability? | 21:34 |
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| ihrachys | armax: no, why. I had plenty today to make me busy. | 21:34 |
| armax | ihrachys: sorry I thought you said you were | 21:34 |
| ihrachys | armax: and I would be glad if someone else takes it, not me tomorrow | 21:34 |
| ihrachys | np | 21:34 |
| armax | I will be looking at the unit test instability | 21:34 |
| armax | anyone else willing to look into what the latest DVR instability is? | 21:35 |
| haleyb | armax: i can look, thought we just had the os-client-config issue today | 21:35 |
| armax | we;re about to peg at 100% | 21:35 |
| ihrachys | haleyb: occ was grenade only (for some reason) | 21:35 |
| armax | haleyb: could be the same you reckon? | 21:35 |
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| armax | #link when looking at http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=8&fullscreen | 21:36 |
| armax | #undo | 21:36 |
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| armax | #link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=8&fullscreen | 21:36 |
| haleyb | armax: i hadn't looked with the other one so bad, so i don't know | 21:36 |
| armax | but the graphs for the gate queue look funny | 21:36 |
| armax | http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=5&fullscreen | 21:36 |
| armax | they seem to stop at yesterday | 21:37 |
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| HenryG | haleyb: I see https://review.openstack.org/352594 just got proposed. | 21:37 |
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| haleyb | i do see the strange "mountains" with grafana now, but see a linuxbridge spike | 21:39 |
| armax | ok, let’s move for now, but before we do, we have njohnston deputy for the week | 21:39 |
| armax | thanks njohnston | 21:39 |
| njohnston | happy to assist | 21:39 |
| armax | anyone with spare cycles for next week? | 21:39 |
| armax | no-one? | 21:40 |
| armax | ok | 21:41 |
| armax | #topic Docs | 21:41 |
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| armax | let me remind you that getting closer to feature freeze means we should also start looking at providing documentation for what has been built in the Newton timeframe | 21:42 |
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| armax | I would invite folks to look at the list | 21:42 |
| armax | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=doc | 21:42 |
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| armax | and make sure we close as many bugs as we can by writing the appropriate documentation material | 21:43 |
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| hichihara | It seems we need volunteer for doc | 21:43 |
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| hichihara | Many bugs without assignee | 21:44 |
| * asettle pokes in head. You should ask in the docs meeting if anyone would like to volunteer. We have a few networking people interested in working on that stuff. | 21:44 | |
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| ihrachys | I took for from the end since those are mine | 21:45 |
| armax | once we go into feature freeze, I’ll be also going over this list and chase down folks | 21:46 |
| ihrachys | *four | 21:46 |
| armax | ok, let’s move on | 21:46 |
| armax | #topic Transition to OSC | 21:46 |
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| hichihara | And we also have new another tag for api-ref now, https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.tag=api-ref | 21:46 |
| armax | hichihara: ack | 21:47 |
| armax | amotoki is offline, rtheis perhaps you have anything to share? | 21:47 |
| rtheis | armax: I will prepare a transition status update for mid-cycle next week. | 21:48 |
| rtheis | progress continues with osc and osc plugin patches | 21:48 |
| armax | rtheis: ack | 21:48 |
| rtheis | nothing else from me | 21:48 |
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| njohnston | Is there still a plan for an API reference clean up sprint, or was that folded into the mid-cycle? | 21:48 |
| armax | rtheis: thanks | 21:48 |
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| hichihara | njohnston: I guess that amotoki is preparing | 21:49 |
| armax | njohnston: I’d defer the answer to amotoki, but I hope we’ll be pushing at the mid-cycle too | 21:49 |
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| armax | #topic Keystone v3 | 21:49 |
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| armax | the schema migration patch merged | 21:49 |
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| armax | dasm, HenryG: what are you baking next for us? | 21:50 |
| ihrachys | was anyone complaining from 3party? all smooth? | 21:50 |
| dasm | armax: couple things need to be cleaned up, like temporary fixes from subprojects and missing deprecation warnings. | 21:50 |
| armax | dasm: ok | 21:51 |
| dasm | ihrachys: noticed just two problems: nova had mocked calls to neutronclient, and because of this, couldn't follow changes | 21:51 |
| armax | the next two big steps would be to fix the API and sweep the codebase? | 21:51 |
| armax | dasm: links? | 21:51 |
| dasm | armax: digging | 21:52 |
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| ihrachys | armax: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349299/ | 21:52 |
| ihrachys | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1608258 | 21:52 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1608258 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "test_neutronv2 unit tests fail with python-neutronclient 5.0.0" [High,Fix released] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem) | 21:52 |
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| dasm | ihrachys: thanks | 21:52 |
| dasm | and also this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1610905 | 21:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1610905 in neutron "Updating agent with non admin context returns 500 error." [Medium,Confirmed] - Assigned to Kengo Hobo (hobo-kengo) | 21:53 |
| armax | ihrachys: thanks | 21:53 |
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| dasm | but second one seems to be not connected to latest change, according to HenryG | 21:53 |
| ihrachys | dasm: how will plugin API work? will we receive both project and tenant IDs and will need to reconcile ourselves? or you will do it in api layer and provide a single value for us? | 21:53 |
| dasm | ihrachys: we shouldn't break backward comp, so idea was to do another extension | 21:54 |
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| dasm | ihrachys: everything (hopefully) will be done on api site. | 21:55 |
| dasm | *side | 21:55 |
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| armax | dasm: my understanding is that we’d be supporting both for sometime | 21:55 |
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| armax | ihrachys: and that the programmatic API would continue to see/handle tenant_id | 21:56 |
| dasm | armax: yes, both will be supported. | 21:56 |
| ihrachys_ | cool with me, less work on objects side | 21:56 |
| armax | #topic neutron-lib | 21:56 |
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| armax | HenryG: anything worth raising for awareness? | 21:56 |
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| armax | looks like we lost HenryG | 21:59 |
| hichihara | 1min | 21:59 |
| armax | oh well | 21:59 |
| armax | let’s get it back then | 21:59 |
| armax | thanks everyone for partecipating | 21:59 |
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| armax | #endmeeting | 21:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Aug 8 21:59:37 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:59 |
| hichihara | bye | 21:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-08-08-21.00.html | 21:59 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 21:59 |
| ihrachys_ | adieu | 21:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-08-08-21.00.txt | 21:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-08-08-21.00.log.html | 21:59 |
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