Wednesday, 2016-08-24

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loquacitieshi! who's here for a docs meeting?00:30
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loquacities#startmeeting docteam00:31
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 24 00:31:26 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is loquacities. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.00:31
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loquacitieshi Sam-I-Am :)00:31
loquacitieswho else is here?00:31
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loquacitiesheya bmoss00:32
loquacitiesdo we have katomo around?00:32
loquacitiesgosh, it's quiet00:34
bmoss*chirp chirp*00:34
bmosseveryone is too busy testing the install guide00:34
loquacitiesi wish ;)00:34
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Sam-I-Amuhhhh yeah :)00:34
Sam-I-Ami'm in the middle of reorganizing the net guide deployment examples00:35
loquacitiesgee, that sounds like an awful lot of fun :S00:35
Sam-I-Amchanging the format to building blocks, using instructional knowledge00:35
loquacitiesthis is a good thing00:35
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Sam-I-Amadding things like ipv600:35
Sam-I-Amits all sorts of fun00:35
JRobinson__I'm here, small delay00:36
loquacitieshi JRobinson__00:36
loquacitieslooks like we're not going to make quorum again, though :(00:36
katomoHi loquacities00:36
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loquacitiesoh, hi katomo!00:36
JRobinson__katomo, o/ hi00:36
loquacitieswell, that's probably enough00:36
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loquacities#topic Action items from the last meeting00:37
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loquacitiesi can't see any00:37
loquacities#topic Specs in review00:37
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Sam-I-Amthere werent any from the last US meeting00:37
loquacitiesSam-I-Am: yeah, i  just checked ;)00:38
loquacitiesok, so we have a couple of specs out00:38
loquacities#link Use openstack command to replace other commands00:38
JRobinson__This one from Allen is about the OpenStack cli client changes00:38
loquacitiesand ti doesn't have a blueprint yet, right?00:38
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JRobinson__I suggested some specific examples are needed.00:38
* loquacities needs to go through the blueprints again soon00:38
JRobinson__Blueprint? one second00:38
* loquacities holds00:39
JRobinson__Just this one -
JRobinson__this was created before the spec00:39
loquacitiesoh cool00:40
JRobinson__So you can see three patches down on this blueprint.00:40
loquacitiesah yes, i remember emailing him ;)00:40
JRobinson__That's the work that started before the spec.00:40
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loquacitiesyep, all good00:40
loquacitiesthanks JRobinson__00:40
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loquacities#link Adds specification to improve glossary usage00:40
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loquacitiesthis one has already well and truly started00:41
loquacitiesthere's a bunch of reviews out for it00:41
JRobinson__loquacities, np,00:41
loquacitiesand finally ...00:41
loquacities#link Release notes guidelines00:41
loquacitiesi think that one is ready to merge too00:42
katomoneed +1 from Doug?00:42
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loquacitiesyeah, it's probably good to wait00:43
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loquacitieshe hasn't looked at it since 5 july, so we might need to ping him00:43
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loquacitiesok, anything else on specs?00:44
JRobinson__That's likely all for now00:44
loquacities#topic Speciality teams00:44
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loquacities#info install guide testing has started00:44
loquacitiesany reports from other speciality teams?00:45
Sam-I-Amnetworking guide is getting some reorg00:45
Sam-I-Amthe big reorg patch backport to mitaka merged, along with the redirects00:45
loquacitiesi appreciate you doing that, it's going  to be great once it's done00:45
Sam-I-Amnow i'm working on the actual content00:46
Sam-I-Amits a huge mess :)00:46
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JRobinson__Just for the User Guide - I've merged the spec, which had enough reviews, I created the blueprint, and I'm going to start editing for O release.00:46
loquacitiesit's a neverending story  ;)00:46
loquacitiescool, thanks JRobinson__00:46
loquacitiesshall we move on?00:47
katomonothing from config/cli ref at this week00:47
JRobinson__We'll see how much is ready by release date. As discussed, it will carry over to the next cycle.00:47
loquacitiesok, thanks katomo00:47
loquacitiesJRobinson__: yeah, that's expected00:47
loquacities#topic Countdown to release00:47
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loquacities#info 42 days to go!00:47
loquacitiesso that's 6 weeks tomorrow00:48
Sam-I-Amyeah, wtf heh00:48
loquacitiesit goes so fast!00:48
Sam-I-Amfeels like we just did this00:48
loquacitiesit seems like we're constantly doing this ;)00:48
Sam-I-Ampays the bills, for now.00:48
loquacitiesPTL elections will be up again soon, too :S00:48
loquacitiesthe list is very close to complete00:49
loquacitiesi think we've had a good release, so far anyway ;)00:49
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loquacitiesvery soon i'll have to start planning release activities00:49
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Sam-I-Amwell, the install guide is going to be interesting00:50
loquacitieson the upside, fewer projects this time around00:50
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Sam-I-Amwell, for docs to test... sure. but the overall experience is bound to be pretty bad for people.00:50
Sam-I-Amsince we dont know what the projects are doing00:50
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loquacitiesyeah, it'll be interesting to see what the fallout is00:51
loquacitiesin some ways, it'll be better because at least people can *find* install info00:51
Sam-I-Amyes, but it also has to work00:51
loquacitieson the other hand, it might not be the quality they expect ...00:51
Sam-I-Amprior to havana people could find install info too. it just didnt work.00:51
Sam-I-Amso we're more or less turning back that clock00:52
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loquacitiesthere's no other way to document them all, though00:52
loquacitieswe couldn't keep going how we were00:52
Sam-I-Amwell, we'd need to move to a source install to include all the potential big-tent projects without packages00:52
loquacitieswe'd still have the same problem with trying to write it all, though00:53
loquacitiesbut source would definitely help come testing time00:53
loquacitiesi wish the people who were vocal about package install would spend more time testing00:53
loquacitiesanyway, we've drifted off topic00:53
Sam-I-Amits interesting that no one sees the big picture that we need assistance from operators to rewrite the install guide using source00:53
loquacities#topic Open discussion00:53
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Sam-I-Amthe install guide is a Big Deal00:53
loquacitieswe can't get operators to help with the ops guide, and they actually care about that book00:54
Sam-I-Amit benefits everyone in openstack to have it work and support the widest variety of projects00:54
Sam-I-Ami'll be at the ops mid-cycle this week00:54
loquacitiesyou and i know this, but to everyone else it's SEP00:54
Sam-I-Amusually people seem interested, the nothing happens00:54
loquacitiescool, well, get on to them ;)00:55
loquacitiesyeah, we've noticed that ...00:55
loquacitieswe have the same problem in the ops session every summit00:55
Sam-I-Ami'll be trying again, of course.00:55
Sam-I-Ambeing the moderator for the docs session00:55
loquacitiesthanks, it's much appreciateed00:55
loquacitiesyou and darrenc should get together beforehand00:55
Sam-I-Ami think they're just so tied into their own deployments its difficult to find some to contribute upstream... i guess.00:55
loquacitiesanyway, this has turned into an airing of grievances00:55
loquacitieswas there anything from anyone else?00:55
Sam-I-Amwhat else is new :)00:56
Sam-I-Amtis openstack00:56
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bmossI don't have anything else to add.00:56
loquacitiesok, cool00:56
loquacitiesthanks everyone for coming!00:56
JRobinson__No, that's all :)00:56
katomothanks, all00:56
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JRobinson__Thank you everyone :) later00:57
loquacitiescya o/00:57
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ramishra#startmeeting heat08:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 24 08:00:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ramishra. Information about MeetBot at
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ramishra#topic roll call08:00
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prazumovskyhi all08:01
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ramishraok let's move on we can finish this quickly and get on with the reviews;)08:03
ramishra#topic Adding items to agenda08:03
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ramishraanything else we want to discuss? else it's all about the n3-status.08:05
ramishra#topic n3-status08:05
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skraynevramishra: when do we plan release n3 ?08:06
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skraynevat the end of this week?08:06
ramishranext week I assume08:06
prazumovskyI know, that there is document with high priority reviews, that should be landed in n-3
skraynevOh. then it's ok, because we plan to review more patches during this week08:06
ramishrathis says Aug29-0208:07
skraynevprazumovsky , ramishra: I suppose, that we may move it out from the n3 . am I right?08:07
ramishrayeah and lbaas-l7-rules-support too08:07
skraynevramishra: ok, middle of the next week sounds ok08:07
ramishrait seems it's stuck with some neutron patches yet to merge08:08
prazumovskyThink, you're right, but nova and cinder resources prefer to land to n-308:08
skraynevramishra: yeah, AFAIk it is blocked by some changes in lbaas project08:08
skraynevprazumovsky: I beleive we may land them without BP08:08
skraynevjust want to be sure, that it's not blocker for n308:08
prazumovskyNo problems08:09
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stevebakerI'd really like this to land so I can do the downstream packaging
ramishrayeah, I agree we can land them as they get reviewed, there are too many patches to get in before next week:)08:09
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ramishraI think the other bps should land before next week including the tempest plugin08:10
ramishrastevebaker: I assume there is one left in the series, right?08:10
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skraynevstevebaker: we will take a look it ;)08:10
stevebakeroh, 1. sweet08:10
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skraynevcoul you please share the link ?08:10
tiantian  I hope these patches merged before n3:)08:10
skraynevstevebaker: ^08:10
ramishrastevebaker: I checked it this morning;)08:10
stevebakeryes, lets get support-conditions-function in too08:11
skraynevstevebaker: phew.. removed 200 lines ;) it looks like easy job for review.08:11
tiantianstevebaker, thanks:)08:11
stevebakerthats the kind we like08:11
ramishraI think rest of the bps are exected to be reviewed in time to land.08:11
stevebakerI haven't looked into why the gate fails so often, but its been real bad08:12
ramishrastevebaker: there are 2/3 known issues.08:12
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skraynevramishra: looks like this is completed ?08:12
ramishrayep landed this morning.08:12
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ricolinit suffer in gate for hole week08:13
skraynevunfortunately  ochyprikov in vacation, so could you update it ?08:13
skraynevricolin: one patch ? :)08:13
ricolinya, one patch08:14
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ramishrathat sql command out of sync issue is the major reason and there is autoscaling/loadbalancer issue I've seen frequently in the last few days.08:15
skraynevramishra: I see ,that also half work was done for merging envs BP08:15
ramishraother than these two I've not seen anything that needs investigation though.08:15
skraynevI supose, that you expected, that it be merged too, right?08:15
ramishrayes, it would be, I would push shardy for review tomorrow.08:16
stevebakermerge it all!08:16
skraynevstevebaker: lol08:17
skraynevstevebaker: need mobile app with one button: "Merge them all" ! :)08:17
ramishraWe've some convergence patches that need to land too.08:17
ramishraElse, we would have to remove from default.08:18
skraynevramishra: do they mentioned in bugs?08:18
stevebakerkeep the etherpad up to date if you want it reviewed
ramishraI assume that can land after FF as I don't see any bp for that, they are all bugs08:18
skraynevramishra: could we add section to etherpad about these patches ?08:19
skraynevlike "should be merged for converge" - otherwise disable convergence by default08:19
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ramishrayes I'll add them08:19
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stevebakeryeah, we can push bugs off to make way for feature reviews08:20
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ramishrazaneb is reviewing those patches and conditions patches for them to land before next week.08:20
ramishraso we seem in good shape:)08:21
ramishra#topic Design summit spaces ?08:21
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skraynevit's mine08:22
skraynevI just saw several mail about discussion of Design summit topics08:22
skraynevso decided to ask: did we get request about spaces ?08:22
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skraynevprobably this question for therve08:23
ramishratherve would have got the mail, can anyone else respond?08:23
stevebakermaybe therve did by he is away. As usual this is a question for the new PTL which we don't have yet08:23
skraynevbut may be somebody knows08:23
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skraynevstevebaker: oh. true.08:23
stevebakerthe last allocations seemed fine, and there is less space this time so lets just ask for proportionally less08:23
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skraynevstevebaker: +108:24
ramishra4+8 was last time right?08:24
skraynevjust need to ping ttx or somebody else, who is responsiable for it08:24
ramishra4 fishbowls and 8 work sessions.08:24
skraynevand half day meet-up of course :)08:25
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ramishrayeah, we may ask for the same and see what we get.08:25
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ramishranot sure if therve had done this yet.08:26
stevebakerI do wonder if we're struggling to fill all those slots with meaningful topics08:26
ramishraskraynev: would you be able to update ttx about it informally08:26
skraynevramishra: yeah. I will try to ping him today08:27
ricolinalso care the dependance with other teams08:27
ramishrastevebaker: yeah, I also thought about the same, without topics do we know how many we need?08:27
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skraynevstevebaker: good question. unfortunately we have not answer yet :)08:27
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ramishraeasy is ask for the same as last time;)08:28
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stevebakerits an inversion of what we need to do, PTL first, then topics, then slots08:28
skraynevramishra: based on previous experience we may do brain storm and generate a lot of topics08:28
ramishrastevebaker: +108:28
stevebakerbut I realise we can't do it that way, so lets make the best of it08:29
ricolinmaybe we can start to collect slots first?08:29
ricolinI mean "topics"08:29
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skraynevstevebaker: I can ask ttx, about end of time for submitting final number of topics.08:30
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skraynevand we will use this time for investigation08:30
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stevebakeryeah, I'm sure we could give up slots that we don't need and they will be useful to someone - lets just ask for the same as last time08:30
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ramishramay be add the topics to
ricolinramishra: +108:33
ramishra#topic open discussion08:33
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ramishraanything we want to discuss?08:33
stevebakerI realise everyone is snowed with feature freeze reviews, but...08:34
stevebakerI've got this series in heat-templates, and once it lands I can do downstream packaging to make it way easier to install the heat agent projects for software deployments
ramishrastevebaker: will look at them this week08:35
stevebakerramishra: thanks, this packaging could be used for the agent container too08:36
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stevebakerthat is all I have08:37
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ramishraSo should we go back to revewing stuff now?08:37
ramishraback to #heat08:37
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stevebakernight all08:37
ramishraok then.08:38
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ramishrathanks all!08:38
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ralonsohajo: I'm going to rebase your commit
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BobBall#startmeeting XenAPI09:31
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 24 09:31:08 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is BobBall. Information about MeetBot at
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BobBallGood morning / afternoon all.09:31
BobBallPing for johnthetubaguy too :)09:31
johnthetubaguyyeah, I spotted your email, yet to update my calendar09:31
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BobBallNo worries.  Not sure how we got out of sync, but I proposed a fix to the upstream ical and the response was "there is no conflict" :)09:32
BobBallOur biweekly was odd and scientific-wg is even :P09:32
johnthetubaguyI suspect it was at the beginning of the year09:32
huanxieHi Bob and all09:32
BobBall(or the other way round)09:32
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johnthetubaguywe had two odd weeks or something, at the end of last year09:32
BobBallWell, hopefully now I've got the invite from the ical it will keep the right time.09:32
johnthetubaguyI mean end of last, beginning of this09:33
jianghuawhello. every one.09:33
BobBall#topic Blueprints / Reviews09:33
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BobBallOK - couple of things this week...09:33
BobBalljohnthetubaguy: Are you aware of ?09:33
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johnthetubaguyBobBall: yeah, hadn't seen it was fixed up though09:34
BobBallSo this change is something that we *really* want in Newton09:34
BobBallIf we don't get the .py extension added now, it'll be a whole release before we can fix it again09:34
johnthetubaguyso the original idea was that .py were utils and the others were plugins09:34
johnthetubaguynot sure why we did that though09:35
BobBallUnderstood, but flake8 won't run on stuff :(09:35
BobBallPossibly just because that's how XS does it in our plugins09:35
johnthetubaguyyep, and the unit tests go strange when you add "c" to the filename09:35
BobBallBut actually, xapi doesn't care what the name of the file is09:35
johnthetubaguyyeah, I suspect it was just copying the pattern09:35
BobBallheh :D yes.  agentc ...09:35
johnthetubaguydid we update the permissions on the files?09:36
BobBallWhy are they wrong?09:36
johnthetubaguywell, I think the plugins and utils were different09:36
BobBallplugins must be executable09:37
johnthetubaguygerrit kinda hides all that detail09:37
BobBallutils don't need to be09:37
BobBallif plugins are not executable then XAPI can't load them.09:37
johnthetubaguyright, which we have broke in the past09:37
johnthetubaguyits really something the packaging should worry about I guess09:37
BobBallYeah, I agree with that09:37
BobBallAnyway - any chance you can find time to review the change?09:38
johnthetubaguyanyways, we can make it separate to that change09:38
BobBallAs I said, it's one that really needs to be in N so we can fix it finally in O09:39
johnthetubaguydang it, we are adding mox tests09:39
BobBallyeah, because it's using the same session stuff... just following the existing pattern09:39
BobBallI remember that was the recommendation at some point - is it now stricter and zero new mox tests?09:40
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johnthetubaguyits zero new mock tests now09:40
johnthetubaguybecause there is a BP trying to convert all the mox tests to mock09:40
johnthetubaguyif we keep adding them, it will never finish09:41
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BobBallAh.  I missed that.09:41
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BobBallThankfully this *should* be a simple test to mockify09:41
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johnthetubaguyso the compat here09:42
johnthetubaguythe idea is to make sure we can have older versions of the plugins on the disk?09:42
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johnthetubaguyor newer plugins work with older code?09:43
johnthetubaguyso I am not seeing any sym links, thats whats confusing me09:43
BobBallThe idea is to say that once Newton is out we can update plugin version to 2.0.  As long as Nova doesn't depend on new functionality (e.g. 2.1+) then you can deploy the new plugins09:44
BobBallsymlinks are there just not shown by gerrit09:44
BobBallI think09:44
johnthetubaguyso I checked out the code, I don't see them, unless I am missing something09:44
johnthetubaguygerrit normally shows sym links09:44
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BobBallhmmm... They were definitely in a previous version09:45
BobBallYeah - I don't see them either eeek09:45
BobBallWell - that's not a huge deal as the packaging / deploying can always add the symlink09:46
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BobBallbut yes, the commit message says they should be there.09:46
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BobBallAre you going to leave that feedback as a review comment, or shall I?09:46
johnthetubaguyI can leave those comments09:46
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BobBallLet's move on then09:47
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BobBallAnything else on blueprints?09:47
jianghuawHi Bob and johnthetubaguy, our second proposal on VGPU was rejected in Newton. Now we are planning to re-start this work for Ocata. The last comment is to generalize the PCI devices.09:47
johnthetubaguyso I think the problem there is around the resource providers09:48
jianghuawjohnthetubaguy, could you give some advice>09:48
BobBallRight - so this one we tried to start a ML thread about this since there were open questions09:48
johnthetubaguywe now have a system we can model what we have more precisely, so we should do that09:48
BobBallbut there was no engagement on the ML and jay pipes was clearly over-worked at the time09:48
BobBallIs resource providers complete in Newton?09:48
BobBallI didn't think it was09:48
johnthetubaguybut this feature will be blocked till it is complete enough to add vGPU, I suspect09:49
BobBallI see.  Do you know if that's planned to be complete enough in Ocata?09:49
johnthetubaguythe ironic stuff, with dynamic resource types, feels quite similar to the VGPU stuff I guess09:50
johnthetubaguyunsure, I just don't have enough visibility into the ordering of all the moving parts09:50
BobBallOK.  I think we need to discuss with jay pipes to understand the ordering and whether there are useful things we can do to help move it along09:51
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jianghuawYes. Thanks John for the input.09:52
BobBallOK - anything else for blueprints / reviews?09:52
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jianghuawAnother BP:
jianghuawPlease help to review on it when you have time.09:53
BobBallHmmm yes09:53
BobBallLet's discuss that one offline jianghuaw09:53
jianghuawSure. thanks.09:54
BobBallIt's ready for review, and the best it can be, but my concern is that it needs quite "ugly" parsing code in Nova.09:54
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BobBallA more important blueprint, when we have it available, will be to introduce os-xenapi09:54
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johnthetubaguyyeah, it may be a good excuse to create that09:55
BobBallI'd definitely rather push for extracting out common code into a new library rather than pushing for the VDI store streaming09:55
johnthetubaguythat might be a better place for python 2.4 code to live, etc09:55
BobBallWhile we have johnthetubaguy ... Interesting question ...09:55
BobBallYes.  That's what I was going to say.09:55
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johnthetubaguyyeah, I am not against that approach09:56
BobBallIf Nova depends on a particular version of os-xenapi then the plugins could be moved there, and Nova using a python interface to os-xenapi to get specific functionality09:56
BobBallwhich happens to be implemented in a plugin in dom0 in os-xenapi09:56
johnthetubaguythats a nice clean cut09:56
BobBallThe other thought was some of the tools that are currently in Nova's tree09:56
BobBallwhich are unmaintained ATM09:56
johnthetubaguyso there is an ops repo for that stuff now09:57
BobBallThey seem a better fit for a common xenapi library or the ops repo09:57
BobBallbut the ops repo I think doesn't import nova utilities stuff09:57
johnthetubaguyright, but those scripts really shouldn't be doing that09:57
BobBallso the tools can only use cli-based things?09:57
johnthetubaguyits not a stable interface09:57
johnthetubaguymostly those tools only use REST APIs09:57
BobBallIndeed.  As was proven when they broke.09:58
johnthetubaguyhonestly, just deleting them is the kindest thing09:58
BobBallHow do we delete tools?  Add big warning messages when they run to say they are deprecated and wait a cycle?09:58
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johnthetubaguyso its totally broken right now, and has been for over a cycle09:59
johnthetubaguyI am OK counting that as deprecated09:59
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johnthetubaguynot sure if all the reviewers would agree with me09:59
BobBallUnderstood.  We can submit a change to delete the tools and see what feedback comes back.09:59
BobBallOK - moving on.09:59
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BobBallAnything else in the last 30 seconds?09:59
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johnthetubaguyoh, feature classification10:00
huazhihaoA small one for
huanxieI have a patch fixing live-migrate
johnthetubaguyits slowly happening10:00
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johnthetubaguyXenServer is listed there, hence the heads up10:00
BobBallAnything you need us to do for that johnthetubaguy ?10:01
BobBalljohnthetubaguy: huanxie's patch is potentially important for Rackspace:
johnthetubaguyso I think "custom disk configurations on boot" should probably be a red cross thinking about it, but a double check would be great10:01
johnthetubaguyBobBall: I remember you mentioning about that patch somewhen10:01
BobBallYou could work around it by setting the value in /etc/xapi.conf even though it's not needed, but Huan's change should fix it10:02
BobBallAh - and huazhihao's change is a trivial fix10:02
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BobBallovs_integration_bridge setting to xapi1 in Nova is going to be wrong more times than it's right, so we wanted to remove the default so people have to set it if using Neutron10:03
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BobBallOK - so actually I think we're keen to get huazhihao's, huanxie's and the .py fixes all into Newton if we can10:04
BobBalljohnthetubaguy: Can you remind me?   Is n-3 the deadline for those, or is RC1 the deadline for bug fixes?10:05
johnthetubaguybut... we do only let through lower risk bug fixes as we approach RC, and focus more on regressions.10:06
BobBallUnderstood.  So we need to push these bugfixes now and before n-3 if at all possible.10:07
BobBalln-3 is 1 week on Friday, so we don't have much time to push for them.10:07
BobBallI think there's nothing else?10:08
huanxieNone for me10:08
BobBallUnless there is anything else, we should close the meeting there.10:08
BobBallThanks all! :)10:09
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huazhihaoThanks Bob and John10:09
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jianghuawThanks John and Bob.10:10
huanxieThanks all:)10:10
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prometheanfire#startmeeting requirements11:59
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 24 11:59:39 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is prometheanfire. Information about MeetBot at
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'requirements'11:59
prometheanfire#topic rollcall11:59
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prometheanfiresigmavirus: you too12:00
prometheanfirethere you go :D12:00
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prometheanfireok, more people than normal12:01
prometheanfire#topic controversies in the Queue?12:02
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tonybprometheanfire: we need to be careful with osc 3.0.112:03
prometheanfiregate's slow, openstacksdk needs a bump but we are waiting on upstream for a new release12:03
tonybbut with the gate as wedged as it is we're kinda stuck12:03
prometheanfireya, osc too12:03
tonybwe can't get the u-c changes in befoer the bot triggers :(12:03
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prometheanfireanything specific about osc?12:04
tonybjust that it's a really big chnage and has the potrntial to break a lot12:05
tonybpuppet are working with RDO to verify that side is cool12:05
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tonybonce the ACK we just need buy in from shade12:05
sigmavirusshade uses osc?12:06
sigmavirusnevermind, not important12:06
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prometheanfire#topic Requirements freeze R-5 (Aug 29 - Sept 02)12:06
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prometheanfireso, how does this work, with gate slow and all12:07
tonybprometheanfire: badly :(12:07
sigmavirusyou prioritize against the slow gate12:07
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sigmaviruswork with changeset authors to figure out what needs to get in before the freeze, some things won't be as high a priority as others and so you make the hard decision and work the important ones through the gate12:08
prometheanfirewhat I mean is, hard or soft cutoff?12:08
tonybsigmavirus: sure12:08
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prometheanfireall changes submitted before/during that time frame can be merged12:09
prometheanfireand should we make an announce to the list (though it's on the schedule12:10
tonybPerhaps all by 29th anything later are we can't make a promise12:10
tonybprometheanfire: Yeah we do need an email to the list as well12:10
prometheanfirewho wants to do that?12:10
* tonyb will12:10
prometheanfire#action tonyb email the list about the Requirements freeze R-5 (Aug 29 - Sept 02), Perhaps all by 29th anything later are we can't make a promise12:11
prometheanfire#topic Barcelona Design Summit12:12
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prometheanfirewho's going?12:12
* prometheanfire is not12:12
* tonyb will be there12:12
sigmavirusnot I12:12
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prometheanfireya, don't think many are going12:13
* prometheanfire wanted to go, but can't :(12:13
prometheanfirespace requirements?12:14
prometheanfirenumber80: you going?12:14
tonybprometheanfire: what rooms do we need (if any)12:14
number80prometheanfire: yes12:14
prometheanfiretonyb: I think a quick status update meeting would be nice12:14
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tonybI was thinking 1 fishbowl and maybe a meetup but that seems like overkill based on who'll be there12:15
prometheanfirebeyond that, not sure if any are needed12:15
dirkA work Session is always good12:15
dirkMain issue with Barcelona is space though12:15
number80I agree we need at least one session12:15
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tonybdirk: We can ask.12:16
prometheanfireok, next?12:16
dirkI think it was just about submitting your wishes12:17
tonybDO we really think we'll get value out of a meetup?  We could just have lunch/dinner/beer12:17
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dirkYeah, I think either a fishbowl or a work session has more vakue12:17
prometheanfireI think an informal thing would be nice12:17
tonybWill we actually work on anything as a team?12:17
dirk+1 for informal meetup12:17
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tonybokay I'll request a fishbowl12:18
dirktonyb: knowledge transfer is always good12:18
dirkI know that I can ask lots of questions to fill up the slot if wanted ;-)12:18
tonybdirk: yeah.12:19
tonybdirk: :)12:19
prometheanfirewho want's to make sure we have a fishbowl?12:19
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tonybprometheanfire: I will12:19
tonybprometheanfire: I have an email to reply to from ttx12:19
prometheanfire#action tonyb make sure we have a fishbowl at the conf12:19
prometheanfire#topic mascot12:20
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prometheanfireour options were picked12:20
tonybWell scorpion was/is available but I'm not sure that's the image we want12:20
prometheanfirewaterfall would be funny, given it's dev connotations12:20
tonyb"the sting in the tail"12:20
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tonybSo I was thinking we could just mark up the options and go with that.12:21
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tonybYou can pick more than one option but only vote once for a given option12:22
tonybI'm not sure any of the options really screams "requirements" to me12:22
prometheanfiresomething that's dependant upon for the community12:23
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prometheanfireso, earth, or a field of grass12:23
prometheanfireor something12:23
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dirkRiverbed perhaps?12:23
prometheanfiredirk: do you want another quantum, because that's how you get another quantum :P12:24
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dirkprometheanfire: ;-)12:24
tonybprometheanfire: interesting idea12:25
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prometheanfireadded to list12:25
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tonybgive it say 24 hours and then we'll get back to Heidi12:26
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prometheanfire#topic Tasks from Etherpad12:28
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prometheanfireI've been working with other project trying to get 20 solved12:29
tonybprometheanfire: Thanks again for checking up on the bot failures12:29
prometheanfiretony has helped :D12:29
prometheanfireanyone else working on anything from the list?12:30
tonybI'm workign on 18 but only slowly12:30
tonyband 212:31
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prometheanfirek, it'd be nice to have 2 done before the summit :P12:32
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prometheanfire#topic Volunteer for next 2 meetings12:32
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prometheanfireAug 31 - coolsvap12:32
prometheanfireSep 14 - ???12:33
tonybprometheanfire: what happend to Sept 7th?12:33
prometheanfireoh, missed that12:33
sigmavirustonyb: september 7th is not on my calendar12:33
prometheanfireSep 07 - ???12:33
prometheanfiresigmavirus: you volunteering?12:34
prometheanfireway to be seen sir12:34
sigmavirusNo I'm not. I generally don't make it to these any longer12:34
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tonybany takers?12:34
prometheanfireI can do either the 7th or 14th12:34
prometheanfirebut would rather not take both12:35
tonybprometheanfire: ok you take one and put me down for t'other12:35
prometheanfireok, I'd rather take the 14th if possible12:35
tonybprometheanfire: works for me12:35
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prometheanfire#action tonyb run the sept 7 meeting12:36
prometheanfire#action prometheanfire run the sept 14 meeting12:36
prometheanfire#topic optional-requirements12:36
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prometheanfirenumber80: ?12:37
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number80first, I'd like to hear what is blocking us, it's not clear for me12:38
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number80If there's nothing against it, I may just push a review and ask feedback on the list12:38
prometheanfirehow it'd integrate with other projects12:38
tonybnumber80: I'm not sure I understand the point.  Doesn't it just complicate all out tooling?12:39
dirkHow is optional req different from global requirements except that it allows duplication?12:40
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number80tonyb: the idea is to track libraries that are not essential for runtime but provides additional goodies (performance boost, etc.)12:40
prometheanfirehow is the behavior of it's use differ12:40
prometheanfirewould we just check against both files when updating?12:40
number80dirk: that could be a way to summarize it, the goal is to relax rules when we can12:40
dirkIs this just that we know which requirements are more central to meet than others?12:40
prometheanfirecan we just comment gr/uc instead?12:40
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number80dirk: yes, and it would encourage people to use abstraction layers e.g anyjson12:41
sigmavirusnumber80: which rules need be relaxed?12:41
number80sigmavirus: no feature duplication12:41
tonybYeah I'd rather do it in g-r either in seperate section or with a local comment12:41
tonybbut fundamentally we still ned to ensure co-installability so we still need to do the same work12:42
number80IMHO, what we want is not to require dozen of libraries doing the same thing to run an openstack cloud12:42
number80tonyb: that's a good compromise (the section proposal)12:42
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tonybnumber80: right 1 or 2 with *very good* reasons but not dozens12:42
prometheanfire+1 the section idea12:43
dirknumber80: I'm not sure that's easy to achieve though12:43
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dirkLike e.g. pymysql vs pgsql12:43
number80tonyb: yep, the goal is that additional goodies should remain non-essential but still tracked and tested12:43
dirkWhich one is core which one is optional?12:43
number80dirk: I think this falls under the backend category and when we should favor any of them12:44
tonybdirk: the first is "core" the additional ones would become extra12:44
tonybdirk: we'd only allow a duplicate library if it had a *really good* reason12:45
tonybmy $0.0212:45
number80but we could enforce that a specific mysql python driver must be supported12:45
prometheanfiresomehow, not sure how12:45
number80and allow another one if it brings performance improvement for instance12:45
prometheanfiregating only on one set would help maybe12:45
dirkTo be honest I prefer one more library over one that exists but that has 200 dependencies12:46
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number80dirk: that could fall under the "very good reasons" to accept it12:46
tonybOne of the things we shoudl do is facilite movement from $old to $new if we create that situation12:47
dirkI understand the reason that we want to keep things 'small' and 'manageable' bit that's a complex thing, not just in/out imho12:47
dirkRight, I see value in documentation $old->$new12:48
dirkE.g. add a deprecated-by  comment to g-r deps?12:48
prometheanfireare we removing the old?12:48
tonybdirk: we need to do more than document12:49
tonybdirk: that's how we end up with libraries that are stuck on 2year old releases12:49
number80I think this could be a cross-project session topic: how to get rid of requirements crufts12:49
tonybif we don't facilitate the move then we're making life hard for everyone12:49
dirktonyb: yeah, we also need to push by calling out deadlines12:49
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dirktonyb: +112:50
tonybdirk: and what do we do if $projects don't move?12:50
prometheanfireso, less optional, more better?12:50
tonybprometheanfire: Yeah12:50
tonybprometheanfire: well "better for soem people"12:51
dirktonyb: 'it depends' :-)12:51
prometheanfirewell, for the ones we already added, they are truely optinal12:51
prometheanfirethey are try wrapped import statements12:51
tonybprometheanfire: for example *json some uses may not care about speed and prefer pure python12:51
prometheanfireso they will get used when we add them12:51
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prometheanfireas for getting people to switch fully...12:51
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prometheanfireya, that'll be fun :P12:52
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tonybok so we're going to add comments/ move thing to seperate section in g-r12:54
tonybbut not add an additional file for tracking these things12:54
prometheanfirewho wants to submit that?12:54
tonybnumber80: ?12:54
tonybwe should still be very selective about adding funcational duplicates12:54
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number80tonyb: I'll do it12:55
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prometheanfire#action number80 to submit review moving existing optional-reqs packages to their own section in gr12:56
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prometheanfirenot sure about uc12:56
tonybther *must* be only one uc12:56
prometheanfireonly one, yes12:56
prometheanfirebut in it's own section12:56
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prometheanfire#topic open floor12:57
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tonybno need for a seperate section in uc12:57
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* dirk needs to leave, cya12:57
tonybit's machine generated12:57
prometheanfireso, that it?12:57
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* tonyb is done12:58
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tonybThanks all12:58
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number80thanks prometheanfire for chairing and everyone else!13:00
zhiyuanhi joe13:00
joehuanglet's start tricircle meeting13:01
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hejiaweironghui has some work of reception, so he will not attend this meeting13:01
joehuang#startmeeting tricircle13:02
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joehuang#topic rollcall13:02
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joehuang#info joehuang13:02
Yipei#info Yipei13:02
dongfeng#info dongfeng13:02
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yinxiulin#info xiulin13:02
zhiyuan#info zhiyuan13:03
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joehuang#topic feature implementation progress13:03
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joehuanghi, please share your recent progress in feature implementation, thanks13:04
zhiyuanpatches for subnet and floating ip clearing have been submitted, i am going to submit the patch for router clearing tomorrow13:05
joehuangZhiyuan fixed one py27 test error today, so please rebase your patch to pass the py27 check and gate test13:05
yinxiulinI resubmitted a patch based APP implementations for  microversion13:06
joehuangthanks to zhiyuan, this is necessary for nova action to pass the tempest test13:06
Yipeiabout dynamic pod binding, the unit tests fail locally. so spends a lot time on tests.  but i just submitted a patch, all the tests pass.13:06
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Yipei this week i will revise commit message and submit a patch. i will add you guys in the reviewer list13:07
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dongfengI have finished the documentation on pod and pod binding. but they are not merged yet.13:07
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joehuangthat means all unit test passed for dynamic pod binding?13:07
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joehuangto Dongfeng, have you tried the command for pod and pod binding?13:08
joehuangto Xiulin, great!13:08
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hejiaweithis week,I commit a patch that force a volume to detach,but not passed .this is my first time to commit,I will retest it and thanks all the reviewers13:08
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dongfengyes, after the releveant functions by curl, i look up the response code in screen -x13:09
joehuangFOr me, the policy patch has been updated according to the review comment13:09
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joehuangto Jiawei, thank you very much for the first commit!13:09
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dongfengafter i run the command by curl, i look up the response code in screen -x. it could be verified that the response code is 200 if correct.13:11
joehuangif you found your patch can't pass the py27 test, please rebase your patch13:11
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joehuangto Dongfeng, yes, it should be like that13:11
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joehuangany more information on feature implementation?13:12
Yipeiok, i will try. i did not add more tests, just try to checks whether need to dynamically bind a pod when creating a vm.13:13
joehuangeverybody is encouraged to review other's patch13:13
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Yipei i will submit a patch without [WIP] tag this week, and add you guys in the reviewer list.13:13
joehuangThank you very much, Yipei, go ahead13:14
joehuangok, let's talk about the TC concerns on tricircle big tent application13:15
Yipeiyou are welcome, it is my duty13:15
joehuang#topic TC concerns on tricircle big tent application13:15
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joehuangTricircle has started to apply big tent project last month13:16
joehuangand two rounds dicussion in the TC weekly meeting13:16
joehuanga lot of review comment in the patch13:17
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joehuang#info the main concerns are API consistency in Nova API-GW / Nova, Cinder API-GW/Cinder13:19
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joehuang#info but the value of networking automation across Neutron is recogized13:20
joehuangwhat's your idea to move tricircle forward?13:21
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joehuangor proposal13:22
zhiyuanso it's better if our networking automation features can work with classical Nova and Cinder server13:23
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joehuangyou mean decouple the networking from Nova-API-GW and Cinder API-GW?13:23
joehuangCurrenly Nova API GW is involved in networking automation13:24
zhiyuanyes, so the main concern is away :)13:24
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joehuangthat means let Nova/Cinder still work in multi-region mode13:25
joehuang#info idea1, to make networking automaton work with multi-region Nova/Cinder, decouple from Nova API-GW13:26
joehuangany other idea or proposal?13:26
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dstaneksamueldmq: it uses an extra random number as part of the key so that when we change it (invalidate) the keys are effectively invalidated13:27
joehuangthis is a good idea, no need to worry about Nova API-GW/Cinder API-GW will have overlapping/different API implementation13:28
lzy2sorry i am late.I have watched sound code this week and prepared to code in the next few days.13:29
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joehuangI also have another proposal to introduce plugin mechanism in Nova Cinder API layer13:29
joehuangbut it'll take long time to disuss in Nova/Cinder to support such a feature13:30
zhiyuanfor decoupling, it's not that straightforward since Nova server doesn't provide driver framework, you can only write driver for nova compute13:31
joehuang#info idea2 propose to introduce plugin mechanism in Nova Cinder API layer13:31
zhiyuanbut we need VM booting event to trigger networking automation13:31
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joehuangso, zhiyuan, could you draft the idea1, and let's have more and broad discussion on this topic to see if it's possible13:33
zhiyuanok, i will prepare for the discussion13:34
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joehuangbut for our current development, just like what TC expect, continue our current implementation13:35
joehuangdon't stop it13:35
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joehuang#action discussion on the possiblity to decouple the networking automation13:35
yinxiulinok, got it13:35
joehuanggood, please continue our development and think about how to address TCs' concerns and worries13:36
joehuang#topic open discussion13:37
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joehuangany other topic?13:37
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zhiyuanno from me13:38
Yipeino for me13:38
yinxiulinno for me13:39
dongfengno for me13:39
joehuangok, thank you very much, let's conclude the meeting13:39
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krotscheck#startmeeting javascript14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 24 14:00:14 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is krotscheck. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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krotscheckGood morning everyone!14:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'javascript'14:00
cardeoishello !14:00
krotscheck#link Agenda
krotscheck#chair vkramskikh14:00
openstackCurrent chairs: krotscheck vkramskikh14:00
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yujunzHi all14:01
* SotK lurks14:01
krotscheck#topic Action Followup14:01
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krotscheckI've moved both the microversion and the method promise discussion to the topics.14:01
krotscheckJSDoc building is also funcitonal.14:01
krotscheckThat second link is probably better - see the content generated under 'Reference Documentatino'14:02
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krotscheckThere's some gotchas, as outlined in the review14:03
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krotscheckHowever, with the option of "Not quite perfect" documentation and "no documentation", I'll vote for the former.14:03
krotscheckGo leave your comments on the review :)14:03
krotscheckAny questions?14:03
yujunzI've add a -r for recursive14:04
cardeoisno it's awesome, great job!14:04
krotscheckyujunz: Oh, good, thanks.14:04
yujunzAnd the 'Children' thing14:04
yujunzI looked into jsdoc-sphinx a bit14:05
yujunzHaven't figure out why yet14:05
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yujunzBut should be useful if we want multi level14:05
krotscheckYeah, there's a bunch of things in there that aren't wrapped with if statements.14:05
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krotscheckWe'll want to reach out to the  maintainers of that and see if they're willing to accept some patches.14:06
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krotscheckIt's not super critical though. Maybe worth creating a story though14:06
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krotscheck#action krotscheck Create story to fix bugs in jsdoc-sphinx14:06
krotscheckCool, let's move on, we've got a lot of big topics to discuss14:07
krotscheck#topic Team Purpose and Scope14:07
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krotscheckvkramskikh: I think this one was yours?14:07
krotscheckWhy do we exist?14:07
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vkramskikhI have one reson for contributing into this project - I want to reuse it for Fuel14:08
krotscheckFuel only uses keystone though, right?14:08
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vkramskikhI also see a lot of potential to reimplement Horizon in a better way, though I don't see any Horizon folks contributing14:08
krotscheckYeah, I've spoken with the horizon team. Most of them are not being paid to build something new, they're being paid to maintain something old.14:09
krotscheckcardeois and the others at internap though seem rather interested.14:09
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krotscheckcardeois: What's your interest?14:09
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cardeoisYou mean contribute to horizon?14:10
krotscheckcardeois: Why's Internap interested in the JS efforst ehre?14:10
cardeoisI guess yeah that would be cool, but the sdk needs to mature before I guess.14:10
cardeoisWe are interested because we used our own sdk in the past (python, js or whatever) and are interested in contributing in a unified one14:10
krotscheckGot it.14:11
krotscheckWhat do you consider "mature"? From my experience, that's in the eye of the beholder.14:11
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betherlycardeois: thats my view as well. i am also interested in contributing to horizon to build a new infrastructure for it but the sdk needs to be more mature to be taken seriously as a replacement14:11
cardeoisI would say being able to create an instance with a specific flavor and defined networks14:11
vkramskikhI've also seen some other folks in project-config who are interested. Maybe once we've got something useful we'll see more contribution14:11
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cardeoisthat would be the mvp I think14:11
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krotscheckThat's the MVP for the App Eco group as well.14:11
vkramskikh+1 to cardeois14:12
msmolhello, sorry for being late14:12
betherlycardeois: ++14:12
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krotscheckOk, so: instance (nova), flavors, image (glance), auth (keystone)... any cinder?14:13
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cardeoisYes I think cinder would be nice too, (or phase 2)14:14
krotscheckSo, that's a lot of work. Is anyone other than myself actually willing to contribut to this to get it to MVP state?14:14
krotscheckBecause, quite frankly, I gave notice to HPE this monday, and will be moving on to non-OpenStack things in two weeks.14:14
cardeoisI am, I didn't work that much these last weeks on the project but I'd like to catch up and contribute to one component14:14
betherlykrotscheck: i am14:15
cardeoisoh wow14:15
krotscheckSo my ability to contribute will be VERY restricted.14:15
krotscheck(Basically 20% time, if Im lucky)14:15
betherlyi just dont know exactly how to bring things together but i definitely want to help and learn :)14:15
vkramskikhI'm still busy with Fuel and cannot commit to anything, though I still can review the patches14:15
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yujunz10%-20% on my side14:15
cardeoisyeah 10-20%  for me too14:16
krotscheckOk, so there's willingness to contribute, however I want to make sure that everyone's got their expectations set.14:16
cardeoisBut if we get things clear with Keystone, and it gets well defined, it would be easier to develop other components bases on Keystone14:16
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krotscheckjust sayin ;)14:17
cardeoisyeah I need to catch up14:18
krotscheckI'll talk more about progress.14:18
msmolindeed. yeah we've definitely got some catching up to do14:18
krotscheckSo to summarize: We think the SDK's a grand idea, everyone's trying to scrape time together to contribute, but we don't think we can really make an argument without an MVP, yes?14:18
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krotscheckAdd to that generator-openstack, which is our "Here's how you use our SDK" tool.14:20
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msmolmaybe cardeois and I can convince mr notmars to let us work on this more than 20%. I think it's a longshot but we can try14:20
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krotscheckSO here's what I propose. We figure out which methods in the various API's are required to get us to the mvp, and we only implement that.14:20
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krotscheckI've got patches up for keystone that will get us tokens and the service catalog list.14:21
betherlyhow are we going to collaborate on this with regard tasks and getting things moving forward without duplication?14:21
jprivardand of course I can contribute more as well. I'm having a hard time handling with my responsibility of dev + scrummaster, but I definitely can contribute more14:21
krotscheckFrom that we can attach nova, cinder, glance, and neutron14:21
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cardeoisGood idea, I think everybody needs to check Keystone reviews so we all agree and take that as a base14:21
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vkramskikhI agree, I don't think we need all of that: for keystone MVP14:22
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krotschecki agree14:22
krotscheckWe may need regions? well see14:22
cardeoisYes region is important for us, unless you can specify it in the config and it uses this config14:22
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krotscheckCan I get some help identifying which bits we need to implement?14:23
cardeoisI can help14:23
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krotscheckcardeois: Thanks! I'll check in with larainema to see how he's coming along with glance, and dig into nova's flavor things. If you could take on neutron, that'd be best.14:24
krotscheckAlso, everyone go argue about keystone.14:24
krotscheckOk, let's move on.14:25
krotscheckAny questions before we move on?14:25
cardeoisok sound good14:25
krotscheck#action krotscheck, cardeois, and larainema to figure out what methods are needed to get to MVP14:26
* krotscheck is going to throw code at those.14:26
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krotscheck#topic Token Persistence14:27
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krotscheckKeystone issues tokens.14:27
krotscheckThose tokens might expire.14:27
krotscheckWe can have the SDK handle the tokens, however it'd be difficult to do so in a way that will meet all edge cases.14:27
krotscheckvkramskikh made a point last week that we should leave it to the user to manage their tokens.14:28
krotscheckThe more I worked on the keystone SDK, the more I ... sortof... agree with him.14:28
msmolI think it should be up to the SDK's users to reauthenticate... e.g. +1 vkramskikh14:28
krotscheckSo, what we're building now is a very low level SDK. We basically just construct HTTP calls for our users.14:28
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cardeoisSo you mean our choices are: #1 if the token expires we generate an error and the user handles it. #2 we catch them and reconnect and handle the exception ?14:28
krotscheckcardeois: Yep.14:29
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bretonkeystoneclient now does #214:30
cardeoisYep I agree with #1 then. Too many edge cases otherwise. If the sdk is used on a server side it "might" be instanciated with an existing token already and we "might" not have any user credentials to relogin14:30
msmolI don't see how we'd reauth automagically in the browser. If say the page is refreshed that means we lose not only the token, but also the config (unless we start storing stuff in local storage)14:30
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krotscheckbreton: Thanks, that's good to know :)14:30
krotscheckmsmol: THat's certainly an option.14:30
krotscheckPersonally, I think that high-level features like that would be AWESOME... but not for an MVP.14:31
krotscheckWhat I've done so far is pass the token in to the method as a first parameter:
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krotscheckAnd, maybe, at some point in the future the OpenStack class becomes the "We'll do magic for you" implementation14:31
cardeois+1 for not necessary for MVP14:32
krotscheckBut that's a future kind of question.14:32
msmolok, so then we're all agreed I think. would be nice to have but not in the scope of the MVP?14:33
krotscheckAny disagreements?14:33
krotscheck#agreed Token Persistence not necessary for MVP.14:34
krotscheck#topic Outreach Education14:34
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* krotscheck apologizes for totally dropping the ball on that14:34
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betherlysorry i dropped off for a moment14:36
krotscheckNo worries.14:37
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betherlyso the summit isnt too far away and so probably that is the number one place for us to be talking about the sdk and the projects14:37
betherlyit would be good to have a meeting with the purpose of education which could form part of a talk krotscheck has proposed or potentially a webinar14:38
betherlywhich then gets built into documentation14:38
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krotscheckWe're still in brainstorming mode, yes?14:38
betherlycontribution outreach also leads into a q i touched on earlier in terms of knowing where people can contribute and what needs to be done.14:39
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krotscheckOur goals are to increase use and increase contributors?14:39
betherlyindeed. sorry, this is all potential ideas floating around totally open14:39
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betherlyand also general awareness of the project even if people dont want to or cant contribute right now14:40
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krotscheckOk, so let's focus on individual goals.14:40
krotscheckBoth require that we build awareness. How do we do that?14:40
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krotscheckMore mailing list discussions.14:40
krotscheckRelease announcements (requires releases)14:40
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krotscheckbetherly: did you have an etherpad?14:42
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krotscheckOh, awesome.14:42
betherlyi havent had a chance to develop it as much as i hoped (yet)14:42
krotscheckDo you want to discuss things now, or let it develop for another week?14:42
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betherlymy first messages in the topic were a sort of rambling of my thoughts on it at the moment and whats going through my brain. any feedback on that and thoughts would always be great14:44
krotscheckRIght, so everyone should be talking up the SDK at the summit :)14:44
krotscheckI lvoe this idea.14:44
krotscheckWe'll want to have a response ready for the inevitable "but what about horizon" question.14:45
betherlyi think our response has been discussed really. once there is an mvp we can look at application14:45
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krotscheckSo all of this hinges on actually getting the MVP.14:46
betherlypart of what we are working towards is something that could be awesome to horizon but its so much more than that so we can probably quite easily shift that discussion14:46
betherlywell no, i think we can still have discussions before the mvp. talk about the vision of the project and what it 'could' do and be used for14:47
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betherlybut being careful not to make solid statements of intent before things have been planned14:47
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krotscheckOk, so what do you recommend we do right now?14:48
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betherlyright now i would recommend we continue improving docs so we can point people to the right place14:49
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krotscheckThat sounds good to me :)14:49
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krotscheck#action krotscheck split design-by-documentation into to-implement segments.14:50
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krotscheck^^ Is probably my biggest action here, since once keystone lands we should land the getting-started section for that.14:51
krotscheck10 minute warning14:51
krotscheckbetherly: Are you ok if we move on?14:51
betherlykrotscheck: yup yup!14:51
krotscheck#action everyone Brainstorm outreach ideas.14:52
krotscheck#action everyone Make sure you insist on documentation patches :)14:52
krotscheckOk, next topic:14:52
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krotscheck#topic Microversions14:52
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krotscheckWe had an action last week for everyone to brainstorm about microversions14:52
cardeoisoh, oops I didn't do anything14:53
krotscheckAll I came up with is "oh, keystone doesn't do microversions yet, I guess we just support 3.7"14:53
krotscheckI have this patch that sortof outlines my thoughts on it:
krotscheckBasically, it's up to the SDK to read all available versions, and figure out which one it knows how to talk.14:54
krotscheckRight now, we only have one version. That will get more complicated as we add others.14:54
krotscheckAnd I have no recommendations yet on how to support multiple API versions.14:54
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krotscheckSo unless anyone has a strong opinion, we'll discuss things on the review and move on.14:55
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cardeoisOk so maybe let's focus for the MVP on reading the version of the API, fail if the version is not supported.14:55
cardeoisThen later we'll handle different versions?14:55
krotscheckRight. And maybe what we'll do is release an SDK with every openstack release, and just support that version in that release.14:56
krotscheckAnd handle bugfixes in branches.14:56
krotscheck#agreed Stick to one version for the MVP. Handle Most-Recent-OpenStack version at all times, and support older versions via release branches until deprecated.14:57
krotscheck3 minutes14:57
krotscheck#topic Method Promise Response Signatures14:57
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krotscheckSo far, on success, I'm retuning the decoded body, while on failure I'm returning the Response instance.14:57
krotscheckAny opinions on that?14:58
cardeoissounds good for now14:58
vkramskikhI love it14:58
cardeoisif the documention is explicit about that I'm ok with it14:58
vkramskikhI see in some cases you're not returning the body, but header value or value of some key of body and i'm totally fine with it14:58
krotscheckCoolio. The big change that was needed there was to send 4xx and 5xx to the fail handler, which is one of my patches.14:58
krotscheckTrue. I'm returning "That thing that you asked for"14:58
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krotscheck1 minute!14:59
krotscheckSkipping keystone14:59
krotscheck'cause we covered it.14:59
krotscheck#topic Open Discussion14:59
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krotscheck40 seconds, what's up?14:59
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cardeoishaha nothing for me, anyway not enough time14:59
krotscheckAlright, thanks everyoen!14:59
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SotK#startmeeting storyboard15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 24 15:00:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is SotK. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'storyboard'15:00
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SotKAnyone here for StoryBoard today?15:00
ZaraI AM15:00
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betherlyyo yo yo15:01
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Zarahey there! :D15:01
SotK#topic Announcements15:01
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Zarahi! :)15:01
SotK#info Gerrit integration is fully up and running!15:01
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Zara*insert dancing gif here*15:02
ZaraI'm worried I've pinged people too many times to thank them already15:02
SotKit works wonderfully, thanks to everyone involved :)15:02
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Zarabut I feel rude if I don't name anyone15:04
* Zara gives up-- thanks zaro, fungi, infra!15:04
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Zarayou are the best15:04
fungiyou bet. happy to help15:04
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Zara:) this is the final gerrit-thanks-ping, honest!15:05
ZaraI'm so happy =D15:05
SotKHave I missed any other exciting things off the agenda?15:06
ZaraI don't think so15:06
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SotK#topic In Progress Work15:08
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SotKthe events timeline for boards and worklists is merged!15:08
Zarafor clarification, that's the api support for it15:09
SotKthere is a patch waiting around to make it actually accessible by people who don't have database access15:09
Zararight, that way lies email notifications.15:09
SotKyup, there's another patch which provides email notifications and recent event things if desired15:10
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Zarahave tested at length, need more +1s!15:10
Zaraand input on the layout for recent events templates15:10
SotKis the patch for those templates15:10
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persiaWill that fully allow worklist subscriptions, or are there more pending in that series?15:11
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Zarare: 356441, I think people who intend to use the feature most should give feedback on the layout for recent events templates.15:11
Zaraso if you're intending to subscribe to worklists so you can know when they change, it's a good time to take a look15:12
persiaRather, if you want to consume that information on dashboard.15:12
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Zararight now we don't have that configurable15:12
Zaraso if you subscribe to worklists, you're getting them in your recent events.15:13
* persia wants to subscribe and be notified, but gas less concern for dashboard.15:13
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SotKthe last patch linked lets you be subscribed but not receive emails or "recent events"15:13
Zarare: the earlier question, you can subscribe to worklists currently, this is work to make changes notify folks, but I think 'fully' means different things to everyone15:13
SotKbut there is no way currently to receive only one of the two notification types15:14
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Zararight, so if you don't look at the dash at all, the templates make no difference, and if you don't opt for notifications on subscribed worklists, the templates make no difference15:16
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Zaraso it just affects people who want to use the recent events on the dash (for anything) and want worklist notifications15:16
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persiaI think that ends up being a lot of people.15:17
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Zarathen they (or a representative) need to give feedback on what would be useful to them15:17
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SotKat the moment I think I plan to change it to the suggestion persia made in the irc discussion on the subject yesterday15:18
persiaThat was smaller, but as I said in that discussion, I now believe we can only have an opinion in mock-up or docs-draft15:19
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betherlyhave to multitask and be in voice call simultaneously so just dropping this here: i wanted to bring up the patch matthewbodkin and i worked on - matthewbodkin are you happy for me to take a look and see if i can sort it this end then show you what i did?15:20
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matthewbodkinye fine15:21
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Zaracomments on recent events templates should go on the thread for the patch; right now I think there's only one from me.15:22
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SotKmy other WIP is reworking task layout so that I can add a "Add to worklist" button there without it getting overly cramped15:25
matthewbodkinbetherly: If I'm honest I was just leaving that for now because nobody is sure whether it does or will actually work properly yet and we were waiting for more people to view it15:25
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matthewbodkinso any help or light that you could shine on it would be great15:26
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ZaraSotK: I'm pleased about the planned layout for this. :)15:26
Zarapedro has said he's willing to remove his -1 on that; iirc it looked odd for him on an emu but fine on his phone.15:27
Zara(for the sidebar submenu, sorry)15:27
Zaraso it should just need more reviews15:27
matthewbodkinokay great I thought so15:27
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Zarabetherly ^15:28
matthewbodkinit's up to you what you want to do with it then betherly, if you think it can be improved further then go for it :)15:28
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Zaraprobably worth poking pedroalvarez about it after the meeting.15:30
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SotKAnything else in this section?15:31
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matthewbodkinnot from me15:33
ZaraI've just been reviewing this week, so nothing from me15:33
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SotK#topic Open Discussion15:33
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ZaraI don't have anything to discuss; am chipping away at a wall of review15:35
matthewbodkinI don't either15:35
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Zaraany requests?15:36
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Zaraoh, docs for sb-gerrit15:36
ZaraI just sent an email round but it'd be good to make docs for that, since we're not expecting syntax to change much; will note15:37
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* Zara adds task to!/story/200001215:40
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* Zara is now satisfied she has nothing to add15:42
SotKoh, also, it needs to be able to update private stories too15:42
SotK(when given access)15:42
Zaraoh yeah, should be a small fix15:43
Zaraso that it sends auth with a GET15:43
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Zarathen people can add it to the ACL of relevant stories15:43
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Zarathe bot can't access them otherwise... which I think is a good sign :)15:44
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SotKanything else to discuss?15:46
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betherlysorry late back!15:47
betherlythanks for responses to my query15:47
betherlyill take a quick look and see but if the testing has all come back fine now then awesome job!15:47
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matthewbodkinokay thanks15:48
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Zarashall we end this meeting?15:50
matthewbodkinfine by me15:50
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smcginnis#startmeeting Cinder16:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 24 16:00:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder'16:00
smcginnisping - dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind jbernard _alastor_ bluex patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino yuriy_n17 karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor baumann rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell stevemar watanabe.isao,tommylike.hu16:00
smcginnisShort agenda today.16:00
smcginnisProbably means will run out of time. :)16:01
smcginnis#topic Announcements16:01
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tommylikehusounds cool16:01
smcginnisIt's non-client library freeze.16:01
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smcginnisIf we get hemna's patch through, I'll be requesting a release later today.16:01
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smcginnisOf os-brick that is.16:01
patrickeastDid that FC fix go in yet?16:01
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geguileosmcginnis: Any chance of this getting in?
smcginnispatrickeast: I thought it did yesterday, but I woudl wait on that too.16:02
geguileopatrickeast: No, not yet16:02
geguileopatrickeast: If you are talking about mine16:02
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smcginnisOh yeah, wanted hemna to take a peek at that one.16:02
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smcginnisBut it can probably go through.16:02
patrickeastgeguileo: yep that's the one16:02
smcginnispatrickeast: You said you tested that and it improved things, right?16:03
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patrickeastsmcginnis: yea it needs to be in16:03
geguileoWe have the same issue in iSCSI multipath cleanup:
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hemnageguileo, I'll look16:04
geguileohemna: Thanks!16:04
hemnageguileo, xtremio fc is failing on that one16:04
hemnahave to make sure that's not an issue16:04
smcginnisNext week is N-3, feature freeze, client library freeze, string freeze, and requirements freeze.16:04
smcginnisSo please keep that in mind.16:04
smcginnisSoft string freeze, actually, but still - we should try to avoid making any translatable string changes if possible.16:05
smcginnisThat will really help the translation team get everything done in time.16:05
xyang1hemna: where?16:06
smcginnis#link Proposed Ocata schedule16:06
erlonsmcginnis: friday?16:06
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geguileohemna: That was failing due to the volume type issue16:06
smcginniserlon: I think Thursday at the latest.16:06
erlonsmcginnis: ok16:06
smcginnisJust so everyone is aware, Ocata is going to be shorter as we transition over to the new release cadence.16:07
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smcginnisOr rather Summit cadence.16:07
smcginnisSo Ocata will be a bit different.16:07
smcginnisYou can see the proposed schedule at that link.16:07
xyang2geguileo: wasn't that one passed already?16:07
smcginnisA lot more compressed.16:07
xyang2geguileo: I didn't see XtremIO CI failure on your patch16:07
smcginnisAnother reason I would like O focused more on bug fixes and stabilization, if we can.16:08
SwansonNeed more and faster releases with less in them and buggier. Should go well.16:08
geguileoxyang2: Apparently I didn't request the recheck, how do I trigger the recheck only for XtremIO_FC os-brick?16:08
hemnaFC failed16:08
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smcginnisShould be "run-EMC XIO"16:09
geguileoYeah, and I have just checked that the error is in the scheduler:  InvalidVolumeType: Invalid volume type: volume_type cannot be None16:09
bswartzSwanson: I think you're being sarcastic but faster releases with less in them would be awesome IMO16:09
smcginnisgeguileo: Ah, doesn't have the fix. Rebase?16:09
geguileoxyang2: Thanks!16:09
xyang2geguileo: np16:09
smcginnisbswartz: Sometimes it's hard to tell when he's being sarcastic or not. ;)16:09
jungleboyjSwanson: So pessimistic!16:09
Swansonjungleboyj, I'm a naturally sunny and positive person.16:10
geguileosmcginnis: I don't think it needs a rebase, but let's see the results first  :-)16:10
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smcginnisgeguileo: If it's still hitting the "volume type can't be null" thing, that fix should be in there.16:10
jungleboyjSwanson: So I have heard.  ;-)16:11
smcginnisBut yeah, we'll see.16:11
hemnaok if it pukes over that I'll just shove it through16:11
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geguileoIf it fails I'll rebase and resubmit16:11
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smcginnisThe thing is gate will rebase on it's checks, but most CI's don't, so external issues aren't avoided (or hit) in third party CI without rebasing the patch.16:12
smcginnis#topic Open Discussion16:12
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geguileosmcginnis: Oooooh, I didn't know that16:12
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smcginnisgeguileo: Yeah, it's a pretty subtle thing.16:13
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smcginnisNothing else on the agenda.16:13
smcginnisThe driver deprecations/unsupported thing seems to have some fans.16:13
smcginnisI saw Ironic is going to adopt that approach too.16:13
DuncanTI have just noticed on the post on mailing list re NFS clone16:13
hemnathat patch is on it's way in no ?16:13
jungleboyjsmcginnis: I have lost track of that.  Are we moving towards the approach we discussed?16:13
smcginnishemna: I gave +2. I think we need to bribe someone else. :)16:13
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smcginnisjungleboyj: Looks like it.16:14
hemnasmcginnis, so Ironic is going to do the same thing ?16:14
smcginnisIt makes the tag enforcers happy, it's probably better on our end users.16:14
DuncanTThat's on the minimum feature list16:14
jungleboyjsmcginnis: +216:14
smcginnishemna: Looks like it. They had a thread on doing that and I didn't see any dissenters.16:14
hemnaah cool.16:14
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hemnaso Cinder is actually leading something for a change :)16:14
smcginnisDuncanT: What's the NFS clone thread?16:14
smcginnishemna: ;)16:15
smcginnishemna: We're the troublemakers.16:15
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DuncanTsmcginnis: Apparently the NFS driver doesn't support clone?16:15
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bswartzDuncanT: you need snapshots before you can do clone16:15
hemnayes we are :)16:15
smcginnisDuncanT: jungleboyj is working on that now, I believe.16:15
jungleboyjDuncanT: I just opened a bug for that and am going to work on fixing that as well with the snapshot support.16:15
DuncanTbswartz: Oh, that's on the minimum feature list too :-)16:16
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jungleboyjDuncanT: Yep.16:16
bswartzDuncanT: it's been "almost done" for more than 2 years now16:16
smcginnisbswartz: True16:16
jungleboyjbswartz: I am here to save the day!?!16:16
DuncanTbswartz: I might put the deprecation patch up and force the issue16:16
tbarronthere were nasty nova dependencies16:16
smcginnisBut now jungleboyj has a vested interest in it. ;)16:16
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erlontbarron: +1 yep16:17
tbarronDuncanT: that might not have motivated nova ..16:17
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bswartzI will shed no tears if the NFS driver is ripped out16:17
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DuncanTtbarron: Vendors and distros can put pressure on nova if needed....16:17
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erlonsmcginnis: Im doing some investigation as well, actually theres something beyond nova16:18
smcginniserlon: Oh?16:18
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erlonsmcginnis: the NFS snapshots right?16:18
smcginniserlon: What's the issue beyond Nova?16:19
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erlonsmcginnis: firstly Nova would need to consider the backing file chain for the snapshtos, currently it only takes the basefile16:20
erlonsmcginnis: them, libvirt need to attach the snapshot file, I couldn't get that working16:21
erlonsmcginnis: even using only virsh commands16:21
smcginniserlon: Hmm, not good.16:21
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eharneyerlon: this is all stuff that should be working already... at least it did the last time i ran this code16:22
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erlonsmcginnis: yep, if you try to attach the basefile, which has the same permissions it works, if you try the snapshot it returns a permission error16:22
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jungleboyjeharney: I am going to play around with it some more later this week too.16:23
erloneharney: where you able to atach a snapshot to an instance?16:23
eharneyi'll give the code a quick smoke test shortly and see what i get16:24
smcginnisOK, anything else today?16:24
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jungleboyjI was able to create and delete snapshots.  Hadn't tried attaching them.16:24
smcginnisGoing once...16:25
smcginnisGoing twice...16:25
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smcginnisOK, thanks everyone.16:25
jungleboyjThanks smcginnis !16:25
erlonjungleboyj: what I observed is that after you create the snapshos, when you detach the volume, and re-attach it, nova will attach the base file16:25
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erlonsmcginnis: thanks!16:25
jungleboyjerlon: Ok, I am going to look at it in a minute here.16:26
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jlvillal#startmeeting ironic_qa17:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 24 17:00:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jlvillal. Information about MeetBot at
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jlvillalHello everyone17:00
jlvillalAs always the meeting agenda is at:
jlvillal#topic Announcements17:00
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jlvillalI don't have any announcements17:00
jlvillal#topic Multi-node Grenade testing of Ironic17:01
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jlvillal#info A successful multi-node multi-tenant experimental job ran:
jlvillal#info Big thanks to vsaienko for all of his work on this17:02
jlvillal#info Still more work to do (adding the Grenade portion) but this is a great step17:02
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jlvillal#topic 3rd Party CI (krtaylor)17:03
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jlvillalkrtaylor: All yours :)17:03
krtaylorwow that was fast :)17:03
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jlvillalOnly three of us here17:03
krtaylorso, we finally got he stackalytics driver completion patch merged17:04
jlvillalNice :)17:04
krtaylorso all intree drivers will be in the marketplace17:04
jlvillalIs there a link to see what it looks like?17:04
krtaylorCI docs patch is stalled because I got pulled into downstream stuff this week17:04
krtayloryes, one sec17:04
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krtaylorthats the merged patchset17:05
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jlvillalDumb question, how does that show up in Stackalytics?17:06
krtaylorthat is the config file for... (getting link)17:06
jlvillalIs there a link in Stackalytics which shows the info?17:06
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jlvillalAh this:
jlvillalCool :)17:07
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krtayloryep thats it, beat me to it17:08
jlvillalWhat about the marketplace link?17:08
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krtaylorI dont have that one close17:09
krtayloryes, that appears to be right17:09
jlvillalThanks krtaylor17:09
krtaylorthe CI docs will need a respin for the docs that deva fixed (index)17:10
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krtaylorand I'll add a few more section descriptions for the outline17:10
krtaylorthen it will be ready to go for now17:10
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krtaylorI was hoping to have that done for this meeting17:10
krtaylorbut it will happen this week17:11
krtaylorthere is an email thread on - should we follow cinder in the rethinking of how we deprecate drivers that are not doing CI testing17:12
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jlvillalYep. I read that. I agree with jroll's proposal. To maintain the deprecation tag17:12
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krtayloralso, I am thinking about wrapping this work up in this cycle, and if we need to break out at summit and discuss anything17:13
krtaylormay add an item to the summit etherpad for CI17:14
jlvillalSounds good to me.17:14
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* jlvillal also hopes to wrap up the Grenade stuff by the summit. He can dream can't he?17:14
krtaylorI thought what we did for Austin was very good - break out on Friday and discuss17:14
krtaylorok, I'll put that on the session planning etherpad17:15
krtaylorso, thats about it for CI, unless anyone else has anything17:15
jlvillalThanks krtaylor17:15
jlvillal#topic Open Discussion17:15
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jlvillalI saw jroll had added an item to the agenda about tempest testing. But I think he is on vacation until tomorrow.17:16
jlvillalSo I think we can revisit it next week.17:16
jlvillalAnyone else have anything?17:16
jlvillalSounds like we are done17:16
jlvillalThanks everyone17:16
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bh526r#startmeeting gluon18:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Aug 24 18:01:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bh526r. Information about MeetBot at
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bh526rhello guys18:01
bh526rHi Kamil18:01
bh526rHi Georg18:02
bh526r#topic Roll Call and Introduction18:02
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georgk#info Georg Kunz18:02
KamilRenczewski#info Kamil Renczewski18:03
bh526r#info Bin Hu18:03
bh526r#topic Admin Update18:03
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bh526r#info we plan to have a Gluon F2F session in Barcelona18:04
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bh526r#info Currently OpenStack is allocating rooms for official projects, which is the priority18:04
bh526r#info Bin communicated with Thierry, and agreed that once the room assignment for official projects has been done, if there is more spaces available, we can get it18:05
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bh526r#info Bin Hu Right now, the space in Barcelona is tighter compared to prior summits18:06
pcarver#info Paul Carver18:06
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bh526rwelcome Paul18:06
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bh526ranother topic is that we need to ask for a slot in Nova and/or Neutron's meetings in Barcelona18:08
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bh526r#info Bin will also try to ask for a slot in Nova and/or Neutron's sessions in Barcelona to introduce Gluon18:09
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bh526rThat's all of admin update.18:09
bh526r#topic Summary of Face-to-Face Meeting on August 18 and 1918:10
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georgkthanks for th update18:10
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bh526r#info Gluon had an F2F meeting in Sunnyvale on 8/18 and 8/19.18:10
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bh526r#info The summary of discussion and conclusion is as follows:18:11
bh526rwelcome Jin.18:11
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bh526rPlease #info your attendance18:11
bh526r#info 1. Group discussed Gluon and Neutron Interaction Model. Group agreed and concluded that:18:12
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bh526r#info 1.1 A Proton stays the same. i.e. YAML -> { Pecan, DB Schema, etcd interface }18:13
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bh526r#info 1.2 Gluon will use Neutron plugin approach for North Bound, i.e. as a Gluon ML2 driver (core plugin)18:13
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bh526r#info - Gluon Wrapper ML2 Driver subclasses ML2 Driver18:14
bh526r#info - If it is Proton port, sends to Proton18:14
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bh526r#info - Otherwise, goes to normal ML2 driver18:14
bh526r#info 1.3 Dummy network, subnets etc. object will be used by Gluon ML2 driver to satisfies Nova-Neutron relationship18:15
bh526r#info 1.4 Backend SDN controllers will create network, subnets etc. in our desired way18:15
bh526r#info 1.5 South Bound stays the same etcd to communicate via Shim Layers with SDN Controllers, i.e.:18:16
bh526r#info - Gluon ML2 core plugin will connect with etcd to determine port ownership18:16
bh526r#info - Contrail will use existing plugin/mechanism driver, which is at the same level as etcd18:16
bh526r#info - Contrail’s mechanism driver needs to work with Gluon ML2 Core Plugin18:17
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bh526r#info 1.6 Tom and Jin will look into it if this really works or not18:17
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georgkone question18:18
bh526r#info 2. Group discussed how to explore Gluon ML2 Core Plugin18:18
georgkfor my understanding18:18
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bh526r#info 2.1 Experiment with wrapping / sub-classing method18:18
bh526rSure, what is the question, Georg?18:19
georgkhave you guys looked into how you can ¨go to normal¨ ML2 driver18:19
georgkor rather: is that part of Tom´s investigation?18:19
bh526rTom and Jin are looking into it.18:19
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bh526rYes, that is part of Tom's investigation - how to implement this ML2 Plugin approach18:20
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bh526rTom cannot join today, because of an overlapping meeting.18:20
bh526rAnd he has been recovering from laptop issues in the past a few days18:20
georgkok, I see18:21
bh526r#info - If successful, done18:21
KamilRenczewskiAnother one from me:18:21
georgksorry for canceling yesterdays meeting by the way18:21
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bh526rNot a problem, Georg18:21
kamal___#info Kamal Hussain18:21
bh526rYes, Kamil18:21
KamilRenczewskiContrail should implement its own ML2 plugin or driver for gluon plugin?18:21
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bh526rBased on conversation with Nachi last week, Contrail's plugin is at the same level of Gluon Neutron Plugin18:23
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bh526rSo it reuses its own ML2 plugin18:23
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bh526rThe challenge is there is still a need of shim layer in Contrail to sync up with etcd18:24
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bh526r#info 2.2 If not successful, we try to fix ML2 by working with Neutron ML2 team18:25
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bh526r#info - If successful, done18:25
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bh526r#info 2.3 If not successful, we will use Original Gluon Model, i.e. Nova-Gluon-Neutron18:25
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bh526r#info - Customization for commercial deployment18:26
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bh526r#info Tom and Jin look into it if this really works or not18:26
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bh526r#info 3. Group discussed Demo Scope for OpenStack Summit in Barcelona, and agreed:18:27
bh526r#info 3.1 Multiple SDN Controller Backend Interoperability – use Proton18:27
bh526r#info - New interaction Model with Neutron, compared to demo in OPNFV Summit18:27
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kamal___Regarding new usecases, Ian had mentioned Point to Point services. Any concrete examples on this?18:28
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bh526r#info - Create VM with two vNICs. Neutron Port (e.g Linux Bridge) and Gluon Port  (OVS, vRouter, etc)18:28
bh526r#info 3.2 New service on-demand (new Proton/APIs generated on-demand)18:29
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bh526r#info - Dummy service implementation18:29
bh526r#info 4. Group also discussed that we need to clean up Nova Plugin so that we can have Gluon as Neutron Proxy, which is our model today18:30
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bh526r#info Group recognized that it would take long time.18:30
bh526r#info Ian will work on it, and in his to-do list18:30
bh526rok, that is pretty much the summary of what we discussed and agreed last week18:31
bh526rany other question?18:31
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bh526rok, let's move on18:32
bh526r#topic New Blueprint Discussion18:32
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bh526rbased on what we discussed last week, I created 2 BPs:18:33
bh526rGluon ML2 Plugin BP:
bh526rGluon Nova Plugin BP:
bh526rML2 Plugin is assigned to Tom, and Nova Plugin is assigned to Ian18:34
bh526rAny question?18:34
bh526r#info Based on F2F discussion, 2 Blueprints were created:18:35
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bh526rOne is for Gluon ML2 Plugin BP: This is assigned to Tom18:35
bh526r#info One is for Gluon ML2 Plugin BP: This is assigned to Tom18:35
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bh526r#info The other one is for Gluon Nova Plugin BP: This is assigned to Ian18:36
bh526rAnu question and comments?18:36
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bh526rShall we approve them so that Tom and Ian can officially work on it?18:37
georgkok, do we need to approve them officially?18:37
bh526rWe need in record.18:38
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bh526rIf you need more time to read it, it is fine too and we can approve it next week18:38
georgkno, I am good18:39
georgkI am rather uninformed when it comes to the official ways of working18:39
bh526rThank you.18:39
georgkwe can approve it18:39
georgkdo we need a quorum?18:39
pcarverThe Nova one is pretty vague. Shouldn't it have more detail in it?18:40
bh526rGood question.18:40
bh526rWe can ask Ian to add more details in it.18:40
pcarverThe ML2 one seems ok18:40
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bh526rI propose to approve the Gluon ML2 Plugin BP.18:41
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bh526rGreat, and thank you. Gluon ML2 Plugin BP is approved18:42
bh526rI will communicate with Ian to add more details in Nova Plugin BP18:42
bh526r#info Gluon ML2 Plugin BP: is approved unanimously18:43
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bh526r#info Bin will communicate with Ian to add more details in Nova Plugin BP18:43
bh526rThank you18:43
bh526r#topic Tracking Progress of PoC18:44
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bh526rIn F2F meeting last week, it was indicated that for PM purpose, Jira is a better tool than Launchpad18:44
bh526rSo I created a JIRA ticket under OPNFV NetReady project to track PoC18:45
bh526rThis is also in line with NetReady's role of originating PoC18:45
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bh526rThe fixed version field is empty so it won't be mixed with any OPNFV releases18:46
pcarverI assume this is PM for the surrounding non-programming tasks, right?18:46
bh526rThe label is OpenStack-Gluon to group all related tickets together18:46
pcarverLaunchpad + Gerrit would be used to track all coding activity I hope?18:46
bh526rYes, coding is under the ML2 Driver BP and tracked by Gerrit in OpenStack, of course18:47
pcarverJira makes sense for things that don't belong under Git18:47
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bh526rJira is for all tasks, including logistics18:47
pcarverok. Thanks makes sense18:47
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pcarverBut we should use Launchpad whiteboard to track all Gerrit reviews associated with each blueprint18:48
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pcarverJira for tasks, activities that aren't in the form of Git commits18:49
bh526rCoding related will be done in Gerrit and BP/Launchpad18:49
bh526rThat's why we created the BP for this coding18:49
pcarverCoding and I assume also documentation. We should keep documentation under Git as well.18:49
bh526rIn Jira, I also created a story under the PoC Epic:
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bh526rwhich reference back to BP for all coding related work, and documentation18:50
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bh526rSo Jira is for PoC related tasks18:50
bh526rAnd the coding and documentation related task is referenced back to BP so that those will be tracked in Gerrit and BP18:51
pcarverThat sounds good18:51
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georgkyes, sounds good18:52
bh526r#info A JIRA ticket was created as PM tool for PoC:
bh526r#info Note that it is only for PoC related tasks, including logistics and other non-coding tasks18:53
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bh526r#info Coding the documentation related tasks are referenced back to BP so that those will be tracked in Gerrit and BP/Launchpad in OpenStack18:54
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bh526r#info For example, a story of Gluon ML2 Driver in JIRA references back to Gluon ML2 Driver BP:
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bh526r#info Details of the Gluon ML2 Driver work will be tracked in Gerrit and BP/Launchpad18:55
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bh526r#info Once the coding and documentation are completed, JIRA will merely change ths status to "Resolved".18:56
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bh526rThat's all for today from my side18:57
bh526rAny question/suggestion/comment?18:57
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georgki am good18:57
bh526rWe are good. Thank you all and talk to you next week18:58
georgkthanks for the update Bin18:58
bh526r#info Meeting adjourned18:58
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KamilRenczewskiThanks for all the information18:58
bh526rThank you Georg and have a good night18:58
bh526rBye all18:58
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