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| aspiers | hi | 09:01 |
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| aspiers | anyone around? | 09:01 |
| ddeja | o/ | 09:02 |
| aspiers | hi :) | 09:02 |
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| aspiers | I guess noone else | 09:04 |
| ddeja | it looks so | 09:04 |
| aspiers | alright, no problem | 09:04 |
| aspiers | #startmeeting ha | 09:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 3 09:04:29 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is aspiers. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: ha)" | 09:04 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'ha' | 09:04 |
| aspiers | #topic status updates | 09:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "status updates (Meeting topic: ha)" | 09:05 | |
| aspiers | I'm not sure if you saw the discussions on the clusterlab lists | 09:05 |
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| ddeja | unfortunately no | 09:05 |
| * ddeja should subscribe to clusterlabs list | 09:05 | |
| aspiers | #info discussions on clusterlab lists about the future of OpenStack RAs | 09:06 |
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| aspiers | http://clusterlabs.org/pipermail/developers/2016-September/000339.html | 09:06 |
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| aspiers | although Red Hat are mostly bypassing this discussion, since they are ditching Pacemaker for (almost?) all active/active services | 09:07 |
| ddeja | I've also heard they want to do so | 09:07 |
| aspiers | apparently they will rely on HAproxy and the services themselves for correctness, and some other monitoring system for reporting failures | 09:07 |
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| aspiers | so every service should be able to function correctly even when any of its dependencies are dead or misbehaving | 09:08 |
| aspiers | that sounds like a bit of a leap of faith to me, at least at the current time | 09:08 |
| aspiers | but ICBW | 09:08 |
| aspiers | Barcelona is rapidly approaching! did you get travel approved yet? | 09:09 |
| ddeja | nope... | 09:09 |
| aspiers | :-/ | 09:09 |
| ddeja | yup, I think the same | 09:09 |
| aspiers | mine is confirmed | 09:10 |
| ddeja | that's cool | 09:10 |
| aspiers | I really want to get 3-4 of the specs completed before we arrive | 09:10 |
| ddeja | Me too, it is finally after the release week, so I have time for specs preparation | 09:10 |
| aspiers | great | 09:11 |
| aspiers | maybe we can form a quick plan now | 09:11 |
| ddeja | ok | 09:11 |
| radeks | are there any HA meetings in Barcelona calendar? | 09:11 |
| aspiers | radeks: sadly not, I pushed quite hard for it but no luck | 09:11 |
| radeks | yeahhh this explain why I couldn't find anything :) | 09:12 |
| aspiers | radeks: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-August/100570.html | 09:12 |
| ddeja | aspiers, radeks: but there would be some unofficial meetings, like in Austin | 09:12 |
| aspiers | right | 09:12 |
| ddeja | we would send email to OpenstackDev | 09:12 |
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| radeks | great | 09:13 |
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| aspiers | I think we could maybe use cross-project space, but only if we have specs which clearly explain the scope | 09:13 |
| samP | sorry im late | 09:13 |
| aspiers | hey samP! welcome back :) | 09:13 |
| samP | aspiers: thanks | 09:14 |
| aspiers | #topic specs | 09:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "specs (Meeting topic: ha)" | 09:14 | |
| aspiers | so I merged the VM monitoring spec | 09:14 |
| ddeja | \o/ | 09:14 |
| aspiers | I think it's basically done, although a few more details on the event payload wouldn't hurt, and also something about SSL support | 09:14 |
| ddeja | we could discuss it in Barcelona | 09:15 |
| aspiers | for the benefit of lurkers, we are talking about the specs in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-instance-ha | 09:15 |
| aspiers | lines 115 onwards | 09:15 |
| aspiers | I will do host monitoring - that should be easy | 09:15 |
| aspiers | obviously host recovery is a very important one | 09:16 |
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| aspiers | ddeja: you still OK to start that one? | 09:16 |
| ddeja | aspiers: yes | 09:16 |
| samP | I have to do remaining sepc..(TT) | 09:16 |
| ddeja | aspiers: I'll send first draft this week | 09:16 |
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| aspiers | great :) | 09:16 |
| ddeja | (you can put an action on me ;) | 09:16 |
| aspiers | #action ddeja to draft host recovery spec | 09:17 |
| aspiers | #action aspiers to draft host monitoring spec | 09:17 |
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| aspiers | I am wondering if we still need a libvirt OCF RA | 09:18 |
| ddeja | aspiers: why not? | 09:19 |
| aspiers | oh yeah, we do | 09:19 |
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| samP | isnt that basically coverd in VM monitoring? | 09:19 |
| aspiers | let me find the clusterlabs list discussion on this | 09:19 |
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| aspiers | http://clusterlabs.org/pipermail/users/2016-May/003040.html was a long thread about informing RAs about recovery | 09:23 |
| ddeja | aspiers: oh, thism thread | 09:23 |
| ddeja | I remember reading it... | 09:23 |
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| aspiers | let me find a link to the consensus | 09:24 |
| ddeja | but I don't remember how this thread is connected with monitoring or not the VMs in libvirt? | 09:24 |
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| ddeja | it was about services AFAIK | 09:24 |
| aspiers | http://clusterlabs.org/pipermail/users/2016-June/003344.html | 09:25 |
| aspiers | so the original discussion we had in Austin was: if nova-compute fails, we want to try to restart a few times before fencing - right? | 09:25 |
| ddeja | there was such idea | 09:26 |
| ddeja | indeed | 09:26 |
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| aspiers | but when we give up on the retries, we want to do nova service-disable | 09:26 |
| ddeja | yup | 09:26 |
| aspiers | and similarly for if libvirt fails | 09:26 |
| ddeja | yup | 09:26 |
| samP | aspiers: that discussion start with how to recover process failures | 09:26 |
| aspiers | but I think the consensus of this long thread on the list was, *every* time nova-compute stops, do nova service-disable | 09:27 |
| aspiers | not just after the final failed retry | 09:27 |
| aspiers | and when it starts, do nova service-enable | 09:27 |
| aspiers | so we don't handle the final retry as a special case | 09:27 |
| ddeja | ok, agreee | 09:27 |
| aspiers | if we take that approach, we don't even need an OCF RA for libvirt | 09:27 |
| aspiers | since there is already an ordering (or group) constraint linking libvirtd with nova-compute | 09:28 |
| aspiers | so if libvirtd fails, nova-compute is automatically stopped, and then nova service-disable is called | 09:28 |
| ddeja | aspiers: OCF RA for libvirt was meant for monitoring the vms inside libvirt? | 09:28 |
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| aspiers | no, just for monitoring libvirtd | 09:29 |
| aspiers | the spec I just merged is for monitoring the VMs | 09:29 |
| ddeja | oh, OK | 09:29 |
| ddeja | now we are on the same page | 09:29 |
| aspiers | cool :) | 09:29 |
| aspiers | the only reason I can think of for writing a libvirtd OCF RA, is to improve the monitoring | 09:29 |
| ddeja | so yes, if we want to disable nova every time it stops, we can skip the RA for libvirt | 09:30 |
| aspiers | e.g. if libvirtd is running but hung, then better monitoring could catch this | 09:30 |
| samP | aspiers: what about other processes such as iscsid or mutipathd | 09:30 |
| aspiers | it could do virsh sysinfo or similar every 10 seconds | 09:30 |
| aspiers | samP: interesting point | 09:31 |
| samP | aspiers: I think we start that discussion for how monitor the processes. | 09:31 |
| samP | aspiers: then, dicussion was limited to nova-compute and libvirtd | 09:31 |
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| aspiers | samP: I think it's the same situation for iscsid / multipathd / libvirtd | 09:32 |
| aspiers | if all are dependencies of nova-compute | 09:32 |
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| aspiers | then Pacemaker needs to monitor all of them, and have order/group constraints | 09:32 |
| aspiers | but I think that's not OpenStack-specific | 09:32 |
| aspiers | e.g. there is already https://github.com/ClusterLabs/resource-agents/blob/master/heartbeat/iscsi | 09:33 |
| aspiers | samP: but if you want to write a spec about the storage side, I'm definitely in favour :) | 09:34 |
| aspiers | however if backend storage fails, I guess the only recovery action is fencing | 09:34 |
| aspiers | which makes it simpler | 09:34 |
| samP | aspiers: yep, I will write some details. so we can take a close look onit | 09:34 |
| aspiers | OTOH, if libvirtd dies, the operator might choose a policy which keeps some VMs still running | 09:35 |
| aspiers | they might prefer to do manual recovery of libvirtd, instead of killing important pets | 09:35 |
| samP | aspiers: ype, that is one way to recover | 09:35 |
| aspiers | ah, we already have that in the etherpad | 09:36 |
| aspiers | lines 136-138 | 09:36 |
| aspiers | cool :) | 09:36 |
| samP | aspiers: yep. missed it. thanks | 09:37 |
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| aspiers | #action aspiers to draft specs for libvirt and NovaCompute OCF RAs | 09:37 |
| aspiers | samP: maybe you could start on the VM recovery spec? | 09:38 |
| samP | yes, I will. | 09:38 |
| aspiers | #action samP to draft VM recovery spec | 09:39 |
| samP | aspiers: thx | 09:39 |
| aspiers | OK great, I think that's a good enough plan for this week - plenty for everyone to do :) | 09:39 |
| ddeja | aspiers: yup | 09:39 |
| aspiers | BTW samP how was NYC Ops meetup? | 09:39 |
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| aspiers | or did we already discuss that? :) | 09:39 |
| aspiers | I can't remember | 09:40 |
| ddeja | I think we did | 09:40 |
| samP | aspiers: I think we already did | 09:40 |
| aspiers | OK never mind ;-) | 09:40 |
| ddeja | samP sent us links to etherpad | 09:40 |
| aspiers | oh yeah, I remember now | 09:40 |
| aspiers | #topic local area meetups | 09:41 |
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| aspiers | I attended the OpenStack London meetup last week | 09:41 |
| aspiers | there were ~70 people | 09:41 |
| aspiers | maybe 50, not sure | 09:41 |
| aspiers | anyway, I asked everyone how many pets they are seeing in OpenStack | 09:41 |
| aspiers | and apparently it's still very, very common | 09:41 |
| ddeja | that's somehow good for us | 09:41 |
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| aspiers | and lack of HA seems to be a significant problem, especially in forklift migrations from VMware | 09:41 |
| aspiers | so yes, we are not wasting our time here :) | 09:42 |
| ddeja | it means our work is not useless ;) | 09:42 |
| aspiers | exactly | 09:42 |
| aspiers | I think that will be true for a long time yet | 09:42 |
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| aspiers | thought you might appreciate hearing some extra motivation for our work ;) | 09:42 |
| ddeja | :) | 09:42 |
| aspiers | #topic next generation HA architecture | 09:43 |
| ddeja | I was on a Wroclaw OpenStack meetup last month | 09:43 |
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| aspiers | oh sorry, changed topic too soon | 09:43 |
| ddeja | but no discusson about Pets vs Cows | 09:43 |
| samP | aspiers: ddeja : you may find the NY ops details in following meeting, http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-08-29-09.33.log.txt | 09:43 |
| ddeja | Poland OpenStack community is not very mature unfortunately | 09:43 |
| aspiers | samP: thanks :) | 09:44 |
| aspiers | OK | 09:44 |
| aspiers | I think my colleague Michal Jura goes to those | 09:44 |
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| ddeja | aspiers: I may saw him on attendes list | 09:44 |
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| ddeja | but not sure. Nevertheless, it is 350km from my city, so I'm not attending it every time | 09:45 |
| aspiers | I'm pretty sure he has presented there a few times | 09:45 |
| aspiers | OK | 09:45 |
| aspiers | I guess it's not local for him either | 09:45 |
| ddeja | yes, SUSE Poland is in different city also :) | 09:45 |
| aspiers | right :) | 09:46 |
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| ddeja | ok, we can move to the topic ;) | 09:47 |
| aspiers | ok | 09:47 |
| aspiers | http://docs.openstack.org/ha-guide/intro-ha-controller.html#common-deployment-architectures | 09:47 |
| aspiers | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/372843/ | 09:47 |
| aspiers | has been merged | 09:48 |
| aspiers | to document Red Hat's new approach | 09:48 |
| aspiers | which reduces use of Pacemaker to managing active/passive resources, like the VIPs | 09:48 |
| aspiers | and compute HA, of course | 09:48 |
| aspiers | I'm slowly coming around to this idea, but I think there are unresolved questions | 09:49 |
| aspiers | e.g. it depends on all OpenStack services behaving correctly when their dependencies misbehave | 09:49 |
| aspiers | like I said earlier, it sounds like a leap of faith - I'll believe it works when I see it :) | 09:49 |
| aspiers | and also it requires some monitoring dashboard outside Pacemaker to see the health of all active/active services | 09:50 |
| ddeja | aspiers: I belive Fuel works that way | 09:50 |
| radeks | well it may move away some of the pain which comes from Pacemaker + Rabbit | 09:51 |
| radeks | this is the biggest issue AFAIK and see in the field | 09:51 |
| ddeja | My collegue wanted my help to configure something on a Fuel OpenStack cloud and I was suprised that there was only 5 or 6 services added to pacemaker | 09:51 |
| aspiers | IIUC, here are the Fuel OCF RAs in use https://review.openstack.org/gitweb?p=openstack/fuel-library.git;a=tree;f=files/fuel-ha-utils/ocf;hb=HEAD | 09:51 |
| aspiers | radeks: the biggest pain you see is Pacemaker+Rabbit? | 09:52 |
| aspiers | radeks: you mean active/passive? | 09:52 |
| ddeja | aspiers: yes, there was only network-related services | 09:52 |
| aspiers | ddeja: were they using keepalived? | 09:52 |
| ddeja | I don't know | 09:52 |
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| radeks | aspiers: what I mean by this is a problems rabbit has with full HA mirroring of queues, there is a performance penalty and many other like nasty behavior when network gets partitioned | 09:53 |
| radeks | aaspires: and when you have to for whatever reason restart rabbitmq, all of them or one of them this is becoming a problem | 09:54 |
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| aspiers | radeks: ah, but with mirrored queues are you still using Pacemaker? | 09:54 |
| aspiers | for Rabbit I mean | 09:54 |
| radeks | yes, this is the default for TripleO for example | 09:55 |
| radeks | aspires: if you are lucky with 3 controllers and you want to restart rabbitmq your OpenStack services goes down for at least 20 minutes | 09:56 |
| aspiers | interesting, I didn't realise that active/active Rabbit with mirrored queues would still be controlled by Pacemaker | 09:56 |
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| aspiers | well anyway, we're running out of time | 09:56 |
| ddeja | 5 minutes left ;) | 09:56 |
| radeks | all the OpenStack services has dependency on rabbit, at least in TripleO | 09:56 |
| aspiers | I don't expect any upstream actions on this right now | 09:57 |
| aspiers | but I wanted to make sure everyone is aware of it, and the fact that it is now documented in the HA guide | 09:57 |
| radeks | it's probably good subject for discussion in Barcelona | 09:57 |
| aspiers | radeks: for sure :) although I think Red Hat is already set on this path 100% :) | 09:57 |
| aspiers | I started this thread http://clusterlabs.org/pipermail/developers/2016-September/000339.html to try and minimise the difference between the two approaches | 09:58 |
| aspiers | if the "older" approach of still using Pacemaker to manage active/active services could reuse systemd units, then there would not be a big difference | 09:59 |
| aspiers | but currently all the OCF RAs reinvent the systemd wheel (or vice-versa) | 09:59 |
| aspiers | but yes, let's discuss in Barcelona | 09:59 |
| aspiers | radeks: if you are coming, please make sure to say hello :) | 10:00 |
| aspiers | alright, we're out of time | 10:00 |
| aspiers | if there is anything else, let's continue on #openstack-ha | 10:00 |
| aspiers | thanks all, and bye for now! | 10:00 |
| aspiers | #endmeeting | 10:00 |
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| samP | thanks | 10:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 3 10:00:35 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-10-03-09.04.html | 10:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-10-03-09.04.txt | 10:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/ha/2016/ha.2016-10-03-09.04.log.html | 10:00 |
| ddeja | bye | 10:00 |
| samP | bye all | 10:00 |
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| rvasilets | #startmeeting Rally | 14:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 3 14:01:14 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rvasilets. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'rally' | 14:01 |
| rvasilets | Hi amaretskiy | 14:01 |
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| rvasilets | Hi all | 14:01 |
| amaretskiy | hi | 14:01 |
| astarove | HI | 14:01 |
| rvasilets | Lets wait for 5 minute for someone else | 14:02 |
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| rvasilets | Okey, lets move on. There is no topics in agenda. So, do you have any topic? amaretskiy astarove | 14:07 |
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| amaretskiy | nothing from my side | 14:08 |
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| amaretskiy | however i think we need to fix gates asap :) | 14:08 |
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| rvasilets | amaretskiy, Of course. Are you working on this? Or no one? | 14:10 |
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| amaretskiy | not me | 14:15 |
| amaretskiy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381039/ | 14:15 |
| amaretskiy | wrong link | 14:16 |
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| amaretskiy | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381053/ | 14:16 |
| amaretskiy | this one | 14:16 |
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| rvasilets | Okey, I believe we will solve it behind the meeting) Anything else? | 14:17 |
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| rvasilets | Okey. Lets finish it. See you | 14:22 |
| rvasilets | #endmeeting | 14:22 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 3 14:22:56 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:22 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2016/rally.2016-10-03-14.01.html | 14:22 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2016/rally.2016-10-03-14.01.txt | 14:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/rally/2016/rally.2016-10-03-14.01.log.html | 14:23 |
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| wznoinsk | hi | 15:07 |
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| anteaya | #startmeeting third-party | 15:10 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 3 15:10:52 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is anteaya. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:10 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:10 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'third_party' | 15:10 |
| anteaya | hi wznoinsk | 15:11 |
| wznoinsk | hi anteaya how are you | 15:11 |
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| anteaya | was reading the backscroll on the pycparser issue | 15:11 |
| anteaya | good thanks | 15:11 |
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| anteaya | how are you? | 15:11 |
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| wznoinsk | anteaya: good, it looks like they just got rid off the wheel: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pycparser/2.14 | 15:11 |
| anteaya | okay, thank you wznoinsk | 15:12 |
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| anteaya | wznoinsk: fungi is checking our mirrors | 15:12 |
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| anteaya | looks like that wheel is gone from our mirrors | 15:13 |
| fungi | nah, i already checked them. bandersnatch properly followed suit with a deletion on the next update after it was deleted from pypi by upstream | 15:13 |
| anteaya | fungi: thank you | 15:13 |
| fungi | it's been off our mirrors for about 20 minutes now | 15:14 |
| anteaya | awesome | 15:14 |
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| wznoinsk | our 3rdparty is coming back up too | 15:15 |
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| anteaya | yay! | 15:15 |
| anteaya | that is good news | 15:16 |
| anteaya | do you have anything else you would like to discuss today? | 15:16 |
| anteaya | or does anyone else? | 15:16 |
| wznoinsk | one thing | 15:17 |
| anteaya | go ahead | 15:17 |
| wznoinsk | I'm seeing nodepool not coping very well with baremetal nodes | 15:17 |
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| wznoinsk | specifically... (2 secs) | 15:18 |
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| wznoinsk | I see this http://pasteboard.co/ay7KU4myZ.png | 15:18 |
| wznoinsk | while looped manual ssh connections reveal that the message sshd on the newly spawned nodepool baremetal node is returning http://pasteboard.co/ay8d9Ryoq.png | 15:19 |
| anteaya | ssh exception | 15:19 |
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| anteaya | this is just with your baremetal nodes? | 15:21 |
| wznoinsk | I guess it nodepool doesn't see that problem with VMs as the nova returns VM being in active state when the VM is already in bootup process | 15:21 |
| wznoinsk | anteaya: correct, nodepool has a provider of a openstack ironic controller for baremetal (that works when used by hand) | 15:21 |
| anteaya | well yes, our nodepool doesn't work with baremetal nodes | 15:21 |
| wznoinsk | I was wondering would I maybe fix it here in nodepool and submit a fix for a review | 15:21 |
| anteaya | I think that would be a good approach | 15:22 |
| wznoinsk | or would there be some other way to get CI/nodepool with baremetal you may know about | 15:22 |
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| anteaya | there is no other way that I know about, no | 15:23 |
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| wznoinsk | ok, I'll try with configurable option of retries nodepool will do the ssh checks on the level this exception is happening | 15:23 |
| anteaya | thank you | 15:23 |
| anteaya | that sounds reasonable to me | 15:24 |
| wznoinsk | ok, thanks | 15:24 |
| anteaya | thank you | 15:24 |
| anteaya | I appreciate you bringing it up | 15:25 |
| anteaya | does anyone have anything else they would like to discuss today? | 15:25 |
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| anteaya | thank you wznoinsk | 15:26 |
| anteaya | does anyone have any objeciton to me closing the meeting? | 15:26 |
| wznoinsk | thanks | 15:27 |
| anteaya | thank you for being here and participating | 15:27 |
| anteaya | thanks for your patience with me when I'm late | 15:27 |
| anteaya | see you next week | 15:27 |
| anteaya | #endmeeting | 15:27 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 3 15:27:55 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-10-03-15.10.html | 15:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-10-03-15.10.txt | 15:27 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/third_party/2016/third_party.2016-10-03-15.10.log.html | 15:28 |
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| zigo | ping IgorYozhikov zigo tlbr mordred jamespage ddellav coreycb zul onovy strigazi | 20:07 |
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| tlbr | zigo, i'm here | 20:29 |
| tlbr | sorry for being late | 20:29 |
| zigo | tlbr: Wana do the meeting? :) | 20:30 |
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| zigo | tlbr: There's only you and me ... | 20:30 |
| zigo | I'd say, skip it for today, no? | 20:30 |
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| tlbr | zigo, let's skip it then ? | 20:30 |
| tlbr | ok! | 20:30 |
| zigo | tlbr: I wrote everything here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/openstack-deb-packaging | 20:30 |
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| tlbr | sec | 20:30 |
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| tlbr | zigo, we still have issues with dashboards ? | 20:31 |
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| zigo | tlbr: Basically, everything works with Tempest but heat stuff, and I am trying to investigate why ... | 20:31 |
| zigo | See here: https://newton-jessie.pkgs.mirantis.com/job/openstack-tempest-ci/125/consoleFull | 20:31 |
| zigo | For example, search for heat_integrationtests.functional.test_admin_actions.AdminActionsTest.test_admin_complex_stack_actions | 20:31 |
| tlbr | oh | 20:32 |
| tlbr | "No auth_url configured" | 20:32 |
| zigo | Yup, and I don't understand why it complains about that. | 20:32 |
| zigo | It shouldn't. | 20:32 |
| zigo | There's a valid keystone_authtoken. | 20:32 |
| tlbr | hm | 20:32 |
| zigo | When I set a v3password, it still complains. | 20:32 |
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| zigo | (full v3password auth, that is...) | 20:33 |
| tlbr | hm. ok | 20:33 |
| zigo | tlbr: Do you have access to the Tempest-CI machine? | 20:33 |
| tlbr | i don't know what to do with this at this moment | 20:33 |
| tlbr | zigo, no | 20:33 |
| tlbr | i see that IT guys finally finished with your ticket | 20:33 |
| zigo | As for the plugins, they all build in jessie, but 2 of them don't build in Sid with Django 1.9. | 20:33 |
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| zigo | Yup. | 20:34 |
| zigo | Otherwise, we wouldn't have any Tempest restults ! :) | 20:34 |
| tlbr | :D | 20:34 |
| zigo | It went rather well, I had this result within 3 hours of work. | 20:34 |
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| tlbr | ok | 20:34 |
| zigo | Though this heat thing is annoying, I'm pretty sure that's an issue in the tempest part, and heat is really working. | 20:34 |
| zigo | Got to fix it still though. | 20:35 |
| zigo | Maybe some heat guys will be able to help. | 20:35 |
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| tlbr | sec | 20:35 |
| tlbr | we can ask Aleksey Chuprikov to help with it | 20:36 |
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| tlbr | he helped me a lot with failed package builds | 20:36 |
| tlbr | (heat) | 20:36 |
| zigo | Oh ok. | 20:36 |
| zigo | Is he in Moscow office? | 20:36 |
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| tlbr | no, in Kharkov | 20:36 |
| zigo | Ok. | 20:36 |
| tlbr | time zone is the same for now | 20:36 |
| zigo | What is his nickname on IRC ? | 20:36 |
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| tlbr | zigo, i can't find him | 20:37 |
| tlbr | lets ping him in slack | 20:37 |
| zigo | Ok. | 20:37 |
| tlbr | i can do that tomorrow | 20:37 |
| zigo | slack sUx ... :/ | 20:37 |
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| zigo | Ok. | 20:38 |
| tlbr | :D | 20:38 |
| tlbr | it works ok in browser | 20:38 |
| tlbr | with chrome notifications | 20:38 |
| zigo | It also works ok in Quassel ... :P | 20:38 |
| tlbr | :D | 20:38 |
| zigo | I use the IRC gateway ... | 20:38 |
| tlbr | yeap, i know | 20:38 |
| tlbr | i've used it even with jabbet gateway | 20:38 |
| zigo | Though it insists on renaming my nick as "Welcome", so that every time someone is being polite, it highlights me ... :) | 20:38 |
| tlbr | but you still can't see modified messages | 20:38 |
| tlbr | oh) | 20:39 |
| zigo | Stupid, right? | 20:39 |
| tlbr | right) | 20:39 |
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| tlbr | zigo, i still have no information about Stackalytics | 20:39 |
| zigo | Anyway, we got to fix that, then trove- & senlin-dashboard compat with Django 1.10. | 20:39 |
| tlbr | so it is on hold now | 20:40 |
| zigo | It's annoying that Ilya didn't even give pointers. | 20:40 |
| tlbr | i do not know how to fix it without clean git history | 20:40 |
| tlbr | well, he tries to hack it all, but it is really complicated | 20:40 |
| zigo | Well, the main issue is that Stackalytics is using git history instead of Gerrit commit IDs. | 20:40 |
| zigo | IMO, he should rethink it to use Gerrit IDs. | 20:40 |
| tlbr | zigo, I can spend some time fixing -dashboard tomorrow | 20:41 |
| zigo | Ah? Would be nice ! :) | 20:41 |
| tlbr | :) | 20:41 |
| zigo | It's a major pain in the @(*#&$ | 20:41 |
| tlbr | well, Stackalytics uses git from the very beginning | 20:41 |
| tlbr | so it is ok i think | 20:41 |
| tlbr | ok) | 20:41 |
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| zigo | Well, this shows it's not ! | 20:41 |
| zigo | Gerrit commit IDs are unique, and can't be counted twice. | 20:42 |
| zigo | Git commits can be duplicated when cherry-picking. | 20:42 |
| tlbr | ah, I got the point | 20:42 |
| tlbr | ok | 20:42 |
| zigo | This means that Stackalytics is also counting twice paches when they are backported. | 20:42 |
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| tlbr | yep | 20:43 |
| tlbr | every commit to the git repository | 20:43 |
| zigo | Yup. | 20:43 |
| tlbr | even if it is a duplicate | 20:43 |
| zigo | Exactly. | 20:43 |
| tlbr | what about "Need to upload everything in Sid (instead of Experimental)" | 20:43 |
| tlbr | will onovy help with it ? | 20:43 |
| zigo | Oh, that's a good point. | 20:43 |
| zigo | Well, we need to do mass-commits for that. | 20:43 |
| tlbr | ah | 20:43 |
| zigo | onovy is indeed our specialist for this type of things. | 20:44 |
| tlbr | :) | 20:44 |
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| zigo | I'll ask him, hopefully he wont be too busy. | 20:44 |
| tlbr | it'd be great | 20:44 |
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| zigo | I had to push lots of corrections to many packages too, but now they are IMO ok. | 20:44 |
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| zigo | Not in Experimental, but at least in Gerrit and in the Jessie backports from infra. | 20:45 |
| tlbr | what type of changes ? | 20:45 |
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| zigo | Fix of the namespace when using oslo-config-generator. | 20:45 |
| tlbr | i thought that we use configs for that | 20:45 |
| tlbr | almost every project has it | 20:45 |
| zigo | Also, a bad SQL statement produced by openstack-pkg-tools, making it impossible to install with dbconfig-common. | 20:45 |
| tlbr | ah, haven't noticed it yet | 20:46 |
| zigo | I don't do that. | 20:46 |
| tlbr | we use it in MOS | 20:46 |
| zigo | I prefer to copy what I see in the config into debian/rues. | 20:46 |
| zigo | rules | 20:46 |
| tlbr | it works perfectly fine) | 20:46 |
| zigo | Yeah, but I get more control by doing it myself. :P | 20:46 |
| tlbr | :) | 20:46 |
| zigo | Doing a check of every service takes a few hours at the end of each release cycle, that's fine ... | 20:47 |
| tlbr | with a bit of automation, yep | 20:47 |
| zigo | Anyway, what's in experimental just fails to install with dbconfig-common, because I didn't rebuild packages after fixing opensack-pkg-tools. | 20:47 |
| tlbr | ah | 20:47 |
| zigo | It's going to be fine when rebuilding to upload to Sid though. | 20:47 |
| zigo | So, nothing to worry about, just let's wait until the end of the week that we have a final release. | 20:48 |
| zigo | We also need to take care of each bugs in the BTS. | 20:48 |
| zigo | Make sure the upload to Sid will close the bugs. | 20:48 |
| zigo | This also includes the debconf translations that need to be processed. | 20:48 |
| zigo | There's a bunch of them there ... | 20:48 |
| tlbr | ah, Italian | 20:49 |
| zigo | Yup, for example. | 20:49 |
| zigo | Also, once we've got everything uploaded to Sid, we got to do bug triaging and closing. | 20:49 |
| tlbr | ok, i've seen a bunch of it | 20:49 |
| zigo | It should be fine too... | 20:49 |
| tlbr | ok, i hope i'll help with it | 20:49 |
| zigo | Most (if not all?) of the RCs will be closed by the upload of Newton to Sid. | 20:49 |
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| tlbr | when are we going to move it to sid ? | 20:50 |
| zigo | This week. | 20:50 |
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| zigo | I'd say, we should start preparing the uploads tomorrow, IMO. | 20:50 |
| tlbr | you mean Thursday-Friday ? | 20:50 |
| tlbr | ah, ok | 20:50 |
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| zigo | I'd like to upload all at once, so I'll build things, and copy them in a special folder, readdy to be uploaded. | 20:51 |
| zigo | Then probably upload all at once when we have the final releases. | 20:51 |
| zigo | BAM, big replacement ... :P | 20:51 |
| tlbr | great idea, i like it | 20:51 |
| tlbr | :) | 20:51 |
| zigo | :) | 20:51 |
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| tlbr | what topics do you want to discuss on the summit ? | 20:52 |
| tlbr | i'm not going there, but want to be on track | 20:52 |
| zigo | First thing: get the "Uploading to unstable" commited in Gerrit. | 20:52 |
| zigo | Mostly: | 20:52 |
| zigo | - Improving Jessie images: sbuild pre-setup | 20:52 |
| zigo | - Building for Xenial as well | 20:53 |
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| zigo | - Add piuparts tests | 20:53 |
| zigo | - Building for arm64 with Linaro cloud | 20:53 |
| zigo | - Proposal bots for automated package upgrades | 20:53 |
| zigo | - Proposal bots for "fixing" depenencies... | 20:54 |
| zigo | Plus some infra improvements. | 20:54 |
| tlbr | do we really need bots ? | 20:54 |
| tlbr | nevermind, let's try it out | 20:55 |
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| tlbr | thanks for your time! :) | 20:55 |
| tlbr | zigo, ^^^ | 20:55 |
| zigo | Thanks for your time too. | 20:56 |
| zigo | have a good night | 20:56 |
| tlbr | :) thanks! You too! | 20:56 |
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| armax | hello | 21:00 |
| johnsom | o/ | 21:00 |
| electrocucaracha | alo | 21:00 |
| hichihara | hi | 21:00 |
| dasm | \o | 21:01 |
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| johnsom | Do you do that just to see if you are going to be talking to yourself? | 21:01 |
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| johnsom | grin | 21:01 |
| HenryG | o/ | 21:01 |
| johndperkins | o/ | 21:01 |
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| dasm | johnsom: in that case, meeting would be pretty quick, i think. | 21:02 |
| armax | #startmeeting networking | 21:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Mon Oct 3 21:02:18 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking)" | 21:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking' | 21:02 |
| njohnston | o/ | 21:02 |
| armax | thanks for joining | 21:02 |
| pc_m | o/ | 21:02 |
| blogan | o/ | 21:02 |
| armax | as usual | 21:03 |
| armax | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Network/Meetings | 21:03 |
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| armax | let’s go over the announcements of the week | 21:03 |
| alraddarla | o/ | 21:03 |
| armax | #topic Announcements | 21:03 |
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| armax | this week we will release Newton | 21:03 |
| armax | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/104809.html | 21:03 |
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| armax | we have release an RC3 build last week | 21:04 |
| armax | and it is to be considered *the* Newton release unless something catastrophic happens | 21:04 |
| Sukhdev | o/ | 21:05 |
| armax | at this point every bug report/fix should be targeted for O-1 | 21:05 |
| armax | and backported in due course | 21:05 |
| armax | we will have a patch release for Newton soonish | 21:05 |
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| armax | do you have release questions so far? | 21:06 |
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| armax | as you might have heard, Ihar is stepping down from release liaison | 21:07 |
| armax | by default the role falls back to the PTL | 21:07 |
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| armax | if you are interested please, reach out to your PTL | 21:07 |
| Sukhdev | armax : are you considering going for PTL for another term? | 21:08 |
| armax | Sukhdev: I am thinking about it | 21:08 |
| armax | Sukhdev: :) | 21:08 |
| armax | Sukhdev: are you talking about Ocata or Pike? | 21:08 |
| dasm | Newton :P | 21:09 |
| Sukhdev | thinking is a good thing to do, armax | 21:09 |
| Sukhdev | armax : both :-) | 21:09 |
| armax | Sukhdev: the good news is that Ocata PTL nomination/election time is long gone | 21:10 |
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| armax | Sukhdev: and that the Pike ones won’t be long upon us again | 21:10 |
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| armax | Sukhdev: the bad news is that you’re stuck with me for at least Ocata | 21:10 |
| Sukhdev | I was on vacation for few weeks - look what vacation does to you :-) | 21:11 |
| armax | :) | 21:11 |
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| Sukhdev | armax : ha ha - armax tells good jokes :-) | 21:11 |
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| armax | anyhow, if any of you is interested in stepping up their upstream duties by playing release God, please reach out | 21:12 |
| armax | next announcement | 21:12 |
| armax | the newton postmortem | 21:12 |
| armax | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/360207/ | 21:12 |
| armax | is ready as far as I am concerned | 21:13 |
| armax | thanks to everyone who has looked/reviewed/provided feedback | 21:13 |
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| carl_baldwin | ++ I like having it. | 21:14 |
| armax | if you can spare a few more minutes, please go over it once more or if you haven’t at all, please do | 21:14 |
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| armax | last announcement but not least | 21:15 |
| armax | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-September/104668.html | 21:15 |
| armax | the summit is only a few weeks away | 21:15 |
| armax | bear in mind that the Ocata cycle is rather shorter than the release cycle as we know it | 21:16 |
| armax | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 21:16 |
| armax | so we want to take that into consideration when planning for sessions | 21:16 |
| armax | the danger of overcommitting this cycle is even greater so we may want to scale back on our ambitions | 21:16 |
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| armax | no more announcements from me, anything that I might have missed? | 21:17 |
| Sukhdev | armax : can I make one? | 21:18 |
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| armax | Sukhdev: that’s what I am asking! Fire away | 21:18 |
| Sukhdev | Just to let everybody know that Ironic support for neutron network was finally released | 21:18 |
| Sukhdev | now BM and VM use the neutron networks in an identical fashion | 21:19 |
| armax | Sukhdev: do you have anything official that we can read? | 21:19 |
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| armax | like release notes, docs, etc? | 21:19 |
| Sukhdev | armax : lots of documentation - I will dig up and post | 21:19 |
| armax | ok thanks | 21:19 |
| armax | ok | 21:21 |
| armax | moving on | 21:21 |
| armax | we are now in full motion in Ocata | 21:21 |
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| Sukhdev | #link - https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/nova-specs/specs/mitaka/approved/ironic-networks-support.html | 21:21 |
| armax | there is quite a backlog | 21:21 |
| armax | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron/+milestone/ocata-1 | 21:21 |
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| armax | between this week and the next, as well as at the summit we will polish up what we can realistically expect during the Ocata timeframe | 21:22 |
| armax | #topic Bugs | 21:22 |
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| armax | #link http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate | 21:23 |
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| armax | it looks like there was something infra related that broke our builds a few hours ago | 21:23 |
| armax | but I missed the fun by the looks of it | 21:23 |
| armax | does anyone know more? | 21:23 |
| HenryG | There was an email thread about it | 21:24 |
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| dasm | HenryG: that one? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-October/104909.html | 21:25 |
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| HenryG | dasm: yes | 21:25 |
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| armax | that’s the one | 21:25 |
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| armax | thanks HenryG and dasm | 21:25 |
| HenryG | But it's fixed now so let's move on | 21:25 |
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| armax | I wasn’t going to drag | 21:26 |
| armax | :) | 21:26 |
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| armax | Neutron needs a bug deputy this week | 21:26 |
| clarkb | multinode testing is completely broken in osic which provides most of our test capacity | 21:26 |
| armax | anyone willing to volunteer? | 21:26 |
| clarkb | neutron was recently removed from the bug but it would be great if neutron could work with the qa/devstack team to get that fixed soon | 21:27 |
| clarkb | since the underlying issue is related to enabling subnet pools in neutron | 21:27 |
| armax | clarkb: link? | 21:27 |
| clarkb | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1629133 | 21:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1629133 in devstack "New neutron subnet pool support breaks multinode testing." [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Dr. Jens Rosenboom (j-rosenboom-j) | 21:27 |
| clarkb | there is some back and forth over how we should fix it. Would be good to get that decided and do it soon | 21:27 |
| armax | clarkb: thanks for the pointer, I will look into it right after this meeting | 21:28 |
| clarkb | tyty | 21:28 |
| armax | clarkb: so you say it’s only multinode on OSIC? | 21:28 |
| clarkb | right now yes beacuse the route for 10/8 only adversely affects networking on OSIC instances | 21:28 |
| armax | clarkb: ack | 21:29 |
| dougwig | armax: i can do bug deputy, but i'm traveling fri-sun. | 21:29 |
| armax | clarkb: bear with me while I ramp up, I was off last week | 21:29 |
| armax | dougwig: I take it nonetheless | 21:29 |
| clarkb | amakarov: no problem. let me know if you have more questions. It is being worked but there are concerns over the size of networks in the fix and so on. I think we likely just need to have a direct dialog between neutron and qa to sort it out | 21:29 |
| armax | #action dougwig deputy for the week of Oct 3 | 21:29 |
| armax | clarkb: understood | 21:29 |
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| clarkb | er sorry amakarov meant to ping armax | 21:30 |
| armax | clarkb: I’ll ping you in the infra channel if I need more | 21:30 |
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| armax | next topic | 21:31 |
| armax | #topic Docs | 21:31 |
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| armax | If you are listening/reading and you have worked on a feature/bug or anything worth documenting, please work with us to ensure that your work is properly represented in the appropriate documentation | 21:32 |
| armax | the networking guide, the neutron devref, api-ref etc | 21:33 |
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| armax | this list is still huge | 21:33 |
| armax | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.tag=doc | 21:33 |
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| armax | and yet it should be empty at this time of the year | 21:34 |
| HenryG | Also please review https://review.openstack.org/372857 | 21:34 |
| armax | HenryG: ack | 21:35 |
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| hichihara | HenryG: Added it on my todo list :) | 21:36 |
| armax | next topic | 21:37 |
| armax | #topic OSC efforts | 21:37 |
| carl_baldwin | HenryG: ack | 21:37 |
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| armax | amotoki: ping | 21:37 |
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| armax | it was a long shot, it’s kinda early for amotoki | 21:40 |
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| armax | #topic neutron-lib | 21:40 |
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| armax | HenryG, dougwig: ping | 21:40 |
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| armax | crickets | 21:41 |
| dasm | netsplit? | 21:41 |
| armax | possibly :) | 21:42 |
| armax | oh well moving on | 21:42 |
| armax | #topic Open Discussion | 21:42 |
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| armax | there’s a long list of topics | 21:42 |
| armax | some are stale, some are new | 21:42 |
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| jschwarz | I would like to address the "Recompiling a Cirros fork at the gate" topic that was recently added | 21:43 |
| HenryG | armax: sorry, got called on the phone | 21:43 |
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| armax | HenryG: too late, you lost your spot | 21:44 |
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| armax | jschwarz: I’ll go over the etherpad | 21:44 |
| HenryG | armax: np, neutron-lib work has been on hiatus during the release weeks | 21:44 |
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| armax | jschwarz: asides how to get to a good build, have we resolved where to host the image? | 21:45 |
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| jschwarz | armax, not that I'm aware of yet | 21:45 |
| jschwarz | armax, I heard there were talks of hosting it someplace in Infra and I think it's already being done someplace by some other project | 21:45 |
| jschwarz | it's a matter of talking to the right people or finding the correct piece of code imo | 21:46 |
| armax | jschwarz: the craziest place I could think of is hosting directly in the neutron repo | 21:46 |
| HenryG | ewwww | 21:46 |
| armax | but hosting binary files is kinda frowned upon | 21:46 |
| jschwarz | armax, ajo_ was talking about an openstack/cirros repo | 21:46 |
| armax | either way, it’s a technicality | 21:46 |
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| johnsom | We (Octavia) opted to not host a binary image, but provide a build script and build in in the gate. It uses DIB. | 21:47 |
| armax | HenryG: don’t get all judgemental, you never put binary artifacts under version control, ever? | 21:47 |
| HenryG | never! | 21:47 |
| armax | HenryG: I don’t believe you | 21:47 |
| jschwarz | aye. I would like to avoid binding ourselves to something that is project dependent and instead put in a generic solution | 21:47 |
| jschwarz | johnsom, do you happen to know how long it takes to build these on the gate at run time? | 21:48 |
| johnsom | jschwarx 10-15 minutes, but we are also using the bloated Ubuntu cloud image | 21:48 |
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| jschwarz | In that case, surely there exists some place where infra can store their images and files internally without pulling the cirros from "the interwebz" every time | 21:49 |
| armax | johnsom: thanks for the tip, it’s worth mentioning it on the etherpad | 21:49 |
| armax | #link v | 21:49 |
| armax | #undo | 21:49 |
| jschwarz | 10-15 minutes addition per tempest job sounds like a lot | 21:49 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Link object at 0x7f66f5fc4e50> | 21:49 |
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| armax | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cirros-respin | 21:49 |
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| armax | jschwarz: right now it would only be the scenario jobs | 21:50 |
| jschwarz | armax, agreed | 21:50 |
| armax | which ran pretty fast so it might not be the end of the word to start with | 21:50 |
| jschwarz | then I'll dig into the Octavia code and see if we can make something generic out of it for the first few builds | 21:51 |
| armax | jschwarz: anyhoo this is something worth brainstorming over at the summit | 21:51 |
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| armax | as far as the other bullet point ‘Distributed gateway for optimized local SNAT’ | 21:51 |
| jschwarz | armax, a fishbowl session or a friday sitdown? | 21:51 |
| armax | jschwarz: we’ll work that out | 21:52 |
| armax | the schedule is still WIP | 21:52 |
| jschwarz | sounds good to me | 21:52 |
| jschwarz | thanks for entertaining me :) | 21:52 |
| armax | someone complained about blueprints being marked obsolete | 21:52 |
| armax | jschwarz: no worries | 21:52 |
| armax | tjat | 21:52 |
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| armax | whoever files blueprints without following the RFE process will see their blueprint marked obsolete | 21:53 |
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| armax | #link https://launchpad.net/neutron clearly states | 21:53 |
| armax | For submitting blueprints/RFE and defect reports please follow instructions at: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/blueprints.html | 21:53 |
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| Sukhdev | I mentioned during announcements that Ironic-Neutron integration work has been released - please see documentation here (earlier document was not correct) - | 21:55 |
| Sukhdev | #link: https://specs.openstack.org/openstack/ironic-specs/specs/not-implemented/ironic-ml2-integration.html | 21:55 |
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| armax | thanks Sukhdev | 21:55 |
| armax | the other topics on the agenda will probably need to be crunched offline | 21:55 |
| armax | let’s take 5 minutes back | 21:56 |
| armax | #endmeeting | 21:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Mon Oct 3 21:56:21 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-10-03-21.02.html | 21:56 |
| dasm | thanks o/ | 21:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-10-03-21.02.txt | 21:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking/2016/networking.2016-10-03-21.02.log.html | 21:56 |
| alraddarla | thanks | 21:56 |
| dasanind_ | thanks | 21:56 |
| armax | thanks everyone for attending | 21:56 |
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