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| thinrichs | courtesy ping: ramineni_, ekcs, masahito, aimeeu | 00:01 |
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| ekcs | hi | 00:02 |
| masahito | hi | 00:02 |
| thinrichs | #startmeeting CongressTeamMeeting | 00:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 6 00:02:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is thinrichs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:02 |
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| thinrichs | Hi all! | 00:02 |
| ramineni_ | hi | 00:02 |
| thinrichs | Agenda for the week… | 00:02 |
| aimeeu | hello | 00:02 |
| thinrichs | 1. Newton | 00:02 |
| thinrichs | 2. Barcelona | 00:02 |
| thinrichs | 3. PTGs | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | 4. status | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | Anything else? | 00:03 |
| thinrichs | #topic Newton | 00:04 |
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| thinrichs | It looks like we've got Newton ready to release! | 00:04 |
| thinrichs | ekcs did a fantastic job of fixing a number of vital last minute bugs | 00:04 |
| ekcs | Big big thanks to everyone for completing our biggest, most complex release in recent memory. | 00:05 |
| thinrichs | We ended up spinning 3 release-candidates | 00:05 |
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| thinrichs | ekcs: HAHT was definitely a top-to-bottom effort that took the whole team spanned over at least 2 releases. | 00:06 |
| thinrichs | It's also vital for production deployments | 00:06 |
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| thinrichs | One of the bugs that showed up late requires a schema change to do a proper fix | 00:07 |
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| thinrichs | We should probably do that now and decide whether to backport it to Newton or not | 00:08 |
| thinrichs | so that (a) the next Newton release includes the proper fix and (b) it will be easier to backport bugfixes to Newton | 00:08 |
| ekcs | great. | 00:09 |
| thinrichs | I'd imagine that we'll end up seeing bugs that we'll want to fix in Newton, based on the nature of HAHT and how we finished it up so close to the deadline | 00:09 |
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| thinrichs | Maybe that's a good goal for Barcelona: get the fixes into master and Newton that we already know we need. | 00:10 |
| thinrichs | And also get all the outstanding code that's been hanging around in gerrit merged | 00:10 |
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| thinrichs | Does that sound good? | 00:10 |
| ekcs | great. | 00:11 |
| thinrichs | Any questions/comments about Newton? | 00:11 |
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| thinrichs | #topic Barcelona | 00:11 |
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| thinrichs | We have an etherpad where I've been putting our schedule and recording people who wanted to talk with us | 00:12 |
| thinrichs | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-ocata-design-summit | 00:12 |
| thinrichs | I'm thinking we should reach out to some more people who might have use cases or feature requests | 00:12 |
| thinrichs | Right now we have 4 people who want to talk. | 00:13 |
| thinrichs | Neutron fwaas, Keystone quotas, NFV with Bryan and masahito | 00:13 |
| thinrichs | Who else should we reach out to? | 00:13 |
| masahito | Do you know Monasca team has progress? | 00:14 |
| masahito | We has some talks in last 2 summit. | 00:15 |
| thinrichs | masahito: that's a good suggestion. I'll reach out to them | 00:15 |
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| thinrichs | I was also thinking about going down the list of congress-related talks to see if any of them want to meet up: | 00:16 |
| thinrichs | https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=congress | 00:16 |
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| thinrichs | If anyone has thoughts, add them to the etherpad and ping ekcs or I | 00:17 |
| thinrichs | or reach out to them yourselves | 00:17 |
| aimeeu | For use cases, there are a few OPNFV projects other than Doctor and Copper that may use (or want to use) Congress | 00:17 |
| thinrichs | aimeeu: examples? | 00:18 |
| aimeeu | Moon and Policy Test are 2 that come to mind, but I don't know the current state of the project | 00:18 |
| thinrichs | aimeeu: do you know any of the people working on those? | 00:18 |
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| aimeeu | I can get more info tomorrow | 00:19 |
| aimeeu | No, but I can ask bryan_att | 00:19 |
| thinrichs | That'd be great. I'm happy to reach out to them, or you can of course | 00:20 |
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| aimeeu | I already have a meeting with him tomorrow, so I'll just add it to the agenda. | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | aimeeu: Thanks! | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | ramineni_: how go the dinner plans? | 00:20 |
| ramineni_ | thinrichs: reservation done for 27th | 00:21 |
| ramineni_ | i got the confirmation mail | 00:21 |
| thinrichs | Great! I'm looking forward to it. Thanks for taking care of that | 00:22 |
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| ramineni_ | np | 00:22 |
| thinrichs | aimeeu: any word yet on whether you'll make it? | 00:22 |
| aimeeu | Yes! My travel request has been approved! | 00:23 |
| * aimeeu happy dance happy dance | 00:23 | |
| thinrichs | Nice! | 00:23 |
| masahito | Nice | 00:23 |
| thinrichs | It'll be good to meet you in real life | 00:23 |
| aimeeu | ha ha ha ha ha | 00:23 |
| ekcs | = ) | 00:23 |
| ramineni_ | great :) | 00:23 |
| ramineni_ | aimeeu: Oct 27th congress team dinner.. you are free right | 00:24 |
| aimeeu | As of now, yes I am and plan to join you all. | 00:25 |
| ramineni_ | aimeeu: great | 00:25 |
| aimeeu | Looking forward to meeting you all in person too. | 00:25 |
| thinrichs | I'm so excited about the trip that I've started listening to beginner spanish podcasts to prep! | 00:26 |
| thinrichs | Should be fun | 00:26 |
| thinrichs | Anything else on Barcelona? | 00:26 |
| ekcs | All I know is “no hablo espanol” | 00:26 |
| aimeeu | :p | 00:26 |
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| thinrichs | #topic PTGs | 00:28 |
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| thinrichs | ekcs sent out an email just a bit ago about the split of the summit into a working session and the community forum | 00:29 |
| thinrichs | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-October/105157.html | 00:29 |
| thinrichs | I'll let everyone read that email and the follow up that ekcs sent | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | which is here | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-October/105159.html | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | Obviously we'll all need to think about this and figure out what travel budgets look like, | 00:31 |
| thinrichs | but it's maybe worth having people at least ask questions and make comments now | 00:31 |
| aimeeu | I think the average developer will be sent to the PTGs rather than the Summits | 00:32 |
| thinrichs | So of the 4 options ekcs laid out, you're thinking (1) | 00:32 |
| aimeeu | Yep | 00:33 |
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| thinrichs | Anyone else have thoughts? | 00:34 |
| thinrichs | masahito: you've had talks accepted at the last few summits. Do you know what your plans are? | 00:34 |
| masahito | As a Congress team member, I'm in favor of (1) | 00:35 |
| thinrichs | masahito: If you get a presentation accepted at the summit, do you expect you'll be able to travel to both the summit and to the PTG? | 00:36 |
| masahito | maybe. | 00:36 |
| thinrichs | OK. Any other thoughts? | 00:37 |
| ekcs | I also think (1) makes sense, but the problem is people who are going to go to summit may not be able to make the PTG. | 00:38 |
| aimeeu | I wonder if the OpenStack Foundation is going to offer travel support to attend the PTG | 00:38 |
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| ekcs | travelling 4 times a year is pretty big hit to both budget and productivity. | 00:38 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: +1, +1 | 00:38 |
| aimeeu | but with no design sessions at the Summit, how many developers will go? Other than PTLs and Cores? | 00:39 |
| clarkb | aimeeu: yes aiui the plan is to offer travel support for the ptg | 00:39 |
| clarkb | that came up in the infra meeting too and ttx confirmed | 00:39 |
| aimeeu | clarkb: thanks! I know the company I work for isn't going to send people to both, and the developers I've talked to would rather attend the PTG | 00:40 |
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| thinrichs | clarkb: any more details on that? They can't offer it to everyone. Do they maybe offer it to people who had talks accepted at the summit? | 00:41 |
| clarkb | thinrichs: you'd have to ask ttx | 00:41 |
| thinrichs | clarkb: ok | 00:42 |
| aimeeu | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Travel_Support_Program | 00:42 |
| aimeeu | here's another that may be of interest: #link http://superuser.openstack.org/articles/tips-for-getting-a-travel-grant-to-the-next-openstack-summit/ | 00:43 |
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| thinrichs | Travel support is great, but we shouldn't make a decision on PTGs assuming people will get travel support. | 00:45 |
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| thinrichs | Option (1) seems good to me too | 00:45 |
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| thinrichs | We still have 10 days to make a decision for the first PTG. But it seems pretty clear what most people are thinking. | 00:46 |
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| ekcs | yea we can maybe finalize at next meeting. | 00:47 |
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| thinrichs | ekcs: sounds good | 00:47 |
| thinrichs | #topic Status | 00:47 |
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| thinrichs | Anyone have status updates to give? Things that we should discuss as a group? | 00:47 |
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| ekcs | This week I'm just going to work on post-newton bug fixes, including proper fixes we couldn't do. | 00:48 |
| ekcs | Also documenting lessons learned during Newton release. Will share if helpful. I'd also love to any feedback from you all. | 00:48 |
| thinrichs | A postmortem would be good. This release didn't go quite as smoothly as normal. | 00:49 |
| thinrichs | But I think that was more just a timing issue—that we finished a large, complex feature close to the deadline | 00:49 |
| thinrichs | Only thing I can really think of to do differently is prioritize tests for those core features higher. | 00:50 |
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| thinrichs | Another topic. Now that Newton is out the door, ekcs will be taking over the PTL duties. | 00:53 |
| thinrichs | Obviously I'll help make that transition a smooth one. | 00:53 |
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| thinrichs | I'm excited to see him take the reigns! | 00:54 |
| ekcs | I’ll need plenty of help and support from everyone. thanks = p | 00:55 |
| ekcs | and grace. | 00:55 |
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| thinrichs | ekcs: It'll be fun. You'll be great! We'll all help however you need. | 00:55 |
| thinrichs | Let's make that the end of the meeting. | 00:56 |
| thinrichs | Thanks all! See you next week! | 00:56 |
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| aimeeu | Thanks everyone | 00:56 |
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| * njohnston looks forward to meeting you all in Barcelona | 00:57 | |
| masahito | bye. | 00:57 |
| thinrichs | njohnston: we're looking forward to it too! | 00:57 |
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| thinrichs | njohnston: were you watching the meeting the whole time? | 00:57 |
| njohnston | Yes, auditing the course :-) | 00:57 |
| ekcs | haha hi njohnston | 00:58 |
| thinrichs | njohnston: if I knew I would have had you intro yourself. We can do that next week if you're around or wait til Barcelona | 00:58 |
| njohnston | Sure! | 00:58 |
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| masahito | hello njohnston | 00:58 |
| njohnston | Thanks all for the warm welcome | 00:59 |
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| aimeeu | njohnston: greetings! | 00:59 |
| thinrichs | Out of time for this week, but we will hear a bit from njohnston next week hopefully | 00:59 |
| njohnston | I'll be here | 01:00 |
| thinrichs | great! | 01:00 |
| thinrichs | #endmeeting | 01:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 6 01:00:12 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-10-06-00.02.html | 01:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-10-06-00.02.txt | 01:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-10-06-00.02.log.html | 01:00 |
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| ianychoi | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 07:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 6 07:00:51 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ianychoi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 07:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 07:00 |
| ianychoi | Hello, anybody here for i18n meeting? | 07:01 |
| zzxwill | Hi Ian. | 07:01 |
| eumel8 | morning | 07:01 |
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| ianychoi | zzxwill, eumel8 Hihi !! :) | 07:01 |
| eumel8 | hi ho :) | 07:01 |
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| ianychoi | zzxwill, you are from China, right? (I am not sure.. sorry^^) | 07:02 |
| adiantum | hi | 07:02 |
| ianychoi | adiantum, oh long time no see :) | 07:02 |
| zzxwill | Yes, I am Will, the Chinese coordinator, led by Daisy. | 07:02 |
| adiantum | ianychoi yep :-) | 07:02 |
| ianychoi | Ohay I see :) | 07:03 |
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| ianychoi | yep :) okay, let's start | 07:03 |
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| zzxwill | Okay. | 07:03 |
| ianychoi | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/I18nTeamMeeting#Next_meeting_:_UTC_0700.2C_October_6 | 07:03 |
| ianychoi | I will mainly follow topics listed in the link first and then we can say anything on open discussion | 07:04 |
| eumel8 | ok | 07:04 |
| ianychoi | #topic Newton translation result summary | 07:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Newton translation result summary (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 07:04 | |
| ianychoi | IMO it is diffucult currently to see statistics on Zanata.. | 07:04 |
| ianychoi | but Stackalytics is good :) | 07:04 |
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| ianychoi | #link http://stackalytics.com/?metric=translations&release=newton | 07:04 |
| ianychoi | This is all the statistics during Newton development cycle | 07:05 |
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| ianychoi | #link http://stackalytics.com/?metric=translations&release=newton&module=horizon | 07:05 |
| ianychoi | This is horizon translations during Newton cycle | 07:05 |
| zzxwill | Indonesian grows fast! | 07:05 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, I agree :) Suhartono is translating a lot! | 07:06 |
| ianychoi | I think because of documention translation, overally Japanese is the top 1 for Newton cycle | 07:06 |
| ianychoi | And for Horizon, China is the 2nd. zzxwill congrats! | 07:07 |
| zzxwill | Thanks ianychoi. | 07:07 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, thank you for German translation on Horizon (6th) | 07:07 |
| adiantum | zzxwill, +1 congrats =) | 07:07 |
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| ianychoi | Also adiantum, thank you for kind contribution during Newton cycle :) | 07:08 |
| eumel8 | yeah, 100% done ;) | 07:08 |
| ianychoi | Yep | 07:08 |
| zzxwill | Thank you adiantum. Thanks to Daisy:) | 07:08 |
| adiantum | ianychoi, thank you | 07:08 |
| ianychoi | thank you all for kind translations | 07:09 |
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| eumel8 | your welcome :) | 07:09 |
| ianychoi | And one note: | 07:09 |
| ianychoi | #link http://stackalytics.com/?metric=commits&release=newton&module=i18n | 07:09 |
| zzxwill | emuel8, great job. | 07:09 |
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| eumel8 | thx | 07:10 |
| ianychoi | Since I18n is an official team, currently, we encourage translators to be registered as extra ATCs. | 07:10 |
| ianychoi | But if translators uploads commits into openstack/i18n repo, and they will be automatically regarded as ATCs. | 07:10 |
| ianychoi | So please patch anything (not only i18n doc but also glossary) into openstack/i18n repo :) | 07:11 |
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| ianychoi | Anything for Newton activities to say? | 07:11 |
| ianychoi | anything else.. | 07:11 |
| eumel8 | whats the next plan? | 07:11 |
| eumel8 | translation plan I mean | 07:12 |
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| ianychoi | Yep good question :) we need to define Ocata plan for translations :) | 07:12 |
| ianychoi | IMO doc translation would be the first but.... | 07:12 |
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| ianychoi | I want to make one more Horizon translation term before software freeze... | 07:13 |
| eumel8 | mhmm, I'm still in the doc translation, ok | 07:13 |
| ianychoi | because the period between soft freeze and hard freeze is too short.. | 07:13 |
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| ianychoi | For translations, that's all for current thinking... | 07:14 |
| eumel8 | ok | 07:14 |
| zzxwill | Hi ianychoi, sorry, I didn't get 'one more Horizon translation term'. | 07:14 |
| ianychoi | and I need to think more on other things (e.g., translation check site, Zanata upgrade, improving Stackalytics, ..) | 07:14 |
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| ianychoi | zzxwill, Aha what I mean is that as you see https://translate.openstack.org/, | 07:14 |
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| zzxwill | Got it. Thanks. | 07:15 |
| ianychoi | :) | 07:15 |
| ianychoi | Anything else? | 07:15 |
| eumel8 | nope | 07:15 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, aha and I think.. we need to talk more about Chinese landing page later (e.g., open discussion?) | 07:16 |
| zzxwill | Sure. | 07:16 |
| ianychoi | Then, I will move to the next topic | 07:16 |
| ianychoi | #topic Planning I18n contributor's meetup on Ocata Design Summit | 07:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Planning I18n contributor's meetup on Ocata Design Summit (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 07:16 | |
| ianychoi | I will discuss translation change on Hard string freeze as 3rd :) | 07:17 |
| zzxwill | Okay. | 07:17 |
| ianychoi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barcelona-i18n-meetup | 07:17 |
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| ianychoi | I have just made it but I need to improve what we need to discuss.. | 07:18 |
| ianychoi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/austin-i18n-meetup | 07:18 |
| ianychoi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tokyo-i18n-meetup | 07:18 |
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| ianychoi | Please FYI for two previous minutes | 07:18 |
| ianychoi | I will go to Barcelona but only stay on Friday afternoon... | 07:19 |
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| ianychoi | It may be just one day flight T.T | 07:19 |
| eumel8 | as I already mentioned I'm not able to join personaly on Friday to the meetup | 07:19 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, it's a pity but fine :) | 07:19 |
| eumel8 | one day flight, really? | 07:19 |
| ianychoi | Yep... really...! | 07:20 |
| ianychoi | I did not think that I would be Ocata I18n PTL.. actually | 07:20 |
| eumel8 | why not? | 07:20 |
| ianychoi | Since this year, I have lots of business things in Korea.. | 07:20 |
| ianychoi | I cannot make better plans T.T | 07:20 |
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| eumel8 | I think like everyone is busy | 07:21 |
| ianychoi | According to my scheduled flight, I will ariive at Barcelona around 10am | 07:21 |
| zzxwill | You have been doing a great job, ianychoi. | 07:21 |
| ianychoi | Then.. I think I will be able to arrive at Summit place before 2pm | 07:21 |
| ianychoi | But that's fine. Personally I visited Spain 2 years ago, at that time I just stayed in Madrid | 07:22 |
| zzxwill | Then we can meet and have a discussion, it's my first time to attend an OpenStack summit. | 07:22 |
| ianychoi | So for me it will be so nice to see beautiful Barcelona :) | 07:22 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, wow you will come to Barcelona? | 07:22 |
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| eumel8 | are people invited from doc team or zanata? | 07:22 |
| eumel8 | maybe would make sense... | 07:23 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, I asked to Lana (Doc team PTL) and she said she will be there and try to get I18n meetup (since there is also doc team meeting at the same time) | 07:23 |
| zzxwill | Yes, OpenStack committee supports my flight. | 07:23 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, and unfortunately Alex will be unable to attend... | 07:23 |
| eumel8 | ok | 07:24 |
| ianychoi | So... I want to have a Skype meeting during 4-5pm.. with Alex | 07:24 |
| adiantum | ianychoi, and will Carlos be unable too? | 07:24 |
| ianychoi | and other guys who want discuss with all members | 07:24 |
| eumel8 | maybe organize a parallel irc session | 07:24 |
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| ianychoi | adiantum, I did not ask this but I think.. He will be also unable to come.. | 07:24 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, good idea :) | 07:25 |
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| ianychoi | adiantum, will you come to Barcelona? | 07:25 |
| eumel8 | than I could join when I be in the other meeting at the same time | 07:25 |
| ianychoi | And I have not asked to Infra team yet but I will ask them :) | 07:26 |
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| adiantum | ianychoi, not sure currently, will be sure next week | 07:26 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, aha.. skype or hangout will be diffucult but irc is okay, am I understanding right? | 07:26 |
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| ianychoi | adiantum, I see hope to see again at Barcelona :) | 07:26 |
| eumel8 | yes | 07:26 |
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| adiantum | ianychoi, i hope too =) | 07:26 |
| ianychoi | Yep nice..! | 07:27 |
| zzxwill | Me too. | 07:27 |
| eumel8 | infra team will be there - Andreas ... pleia, of course | 07:27 |
| ianychoi | So I want to prepare a survey: 3-4pm will be better or 4-5 will be better for offline+virtual (irc&skype,...) I18n meetup | 07:27 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, I have not asked but yep I think so and also hope so :) | 07:28 |
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| ianychoi | Currently that's all from me. | 07:29 |
| eumel8 | ok | 07:29 |
| ianychoi | Anything else? (e.g., relevant topics on I18n contributor meetup?) | 07:29 |
| eumel8 | please send the etherpad link on the mailing-list | 07:30 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, yep I will! | 07:30 |
| eumel8 | thx | 07:30 |
| ianychoi | #action ianychoi will share https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/barcelona-i18n-meetup to i18n mailing list | 07:30 |
| zzxwill | ianychoi, topic: How to encourage local translators and how to cultivate the localization culture. (I am a new coordinator.) | 07:31 |
| zzxwill | I wanna to learn from all of you:) | 07:31 |
| ianychoi | #action ianychoi will open a survey for virtual meeting time during I18n coutributor meetup (3-4pm vs 4-5pm) | 07:31 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, good question.. actually :) This is also what I think and think... | 07:32 |
| zzxwill | Nice:) | 07:32 |
| ianychoi | Can I move your topic to open discussion? | 07:32 |
| zzxwill | Yes, please. | 07:32 |
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| ianychoi | #action zzxwill eumel8 adiantum will think I18n contributor meetup topics and add to Etherpad if having a good idea:) | 07:32 |
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| ianychoi | I added actions :) | 07:32 |
| ianychoi | #info eumel8 will be able to attend I18n contributor meeting through IRC | 07:33 |
| ianychoi | #info ianychoi zzxwill will be able to attend I18n contributor meeting | 07:33 |
| eumel8 | zzxwill: daisy has some slides for the chinese user group. Maybe you can ask her about it | 07:33 |
| ianychoi | Ok... I think that will be sufficient to share as meeting minutes :) | 07:34 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, oh it may be yes I've heard it | 07:34 |
| zzxwill | Yes, emuel8, she trained us which is really useful for local translators:) | 07:34 |
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| ianychoi | Okay.. then move on the next topic? | 07:35 |
| eumel8 | yes | 07:35 |
| zzxwill | yes please. | 07:35 |
| ianychoi | Yep | 07:35 |
| ianychoi | #topic Translation change criteria on Hard String freeze period | 07:35 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Translation change criteria on Hard String freeze period (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 07:35 | |
| ianychoi | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-i18n/%23openstack-i18n.2016-09-23.log.html#t2016-09-23T13:18:56 | 07:36 |
| ianychoi | all, could you read the link? | 07:36 |
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| ianychoi | Oh it was already almost 2 weeks ago.. | 07:36 |
| zzxwill | yes. | 07:36 |
| ianychoi | #info Me and amotoki discussed criteria on Hard String freeze period on Sep 23 UTC | 07:36 |
| eumel8 | whats your proposal? | 07:37 |
| ianychoi | We need to discuss and define such criteria and send to Horizon team for better translation period with qualified reviews | 07:38 |
| ianychoi | Actually not yet | 07:38 |
| ianychoi | I want to listen to this topic and idea from all I18n members | 07:38 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, aha I mentioned at that time: no change >5% in a project | 07:39 |
| ianychoi | But I am not still sure.. how we can define this: similarity? limiting to # of commits? | 07:40 |
| ianychoi | Feel free to tell your thinkgs.. :) | 07:40 |
| eumel8 | I think we need at first an accurate timeline, like: starting from 2016/09/24 00:00:00 until 2016/10/01 23:59:59 UTC | 07:41 |
| eumel8 | and this should be also clear announced | 07:41 |
| adiantum | eumel8 +1 | 07:41 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, adiantum okay I will do for Ocata cycle :) | 07:42 |
| eumel8 | thx :) | 07:42 |
| adiantum | allowed changes criteria in discussion looks good | 07:43 |
| eumel8 | what that mean: no change >5% in a project? from the origin? | 07:43 |
| ianychoi | #info Around Jan 27 to Feb 03 is the timeline between Soft freeze and Hard freeze for Ocata cycle | 07:43 |
| ianychoi | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 07:44 |
| eumel8 | and per file or project? | 07:44 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, yep I thought <=5% on PO files when created at soft freeze start time | 07:44 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, I did not think much details.. file or project.. but IMO per PO file would be easily calculated.. | 07:45 |
| eumel8 | mhmm, depends on the file length :-) | 07:45 |
| eumel8 | sometimes 5% is very much | 07:45 |
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| ianychoi | Defining criteria is difficult thing I think but our feedback to Horizon team will make better communication for better translation I think | 07:46 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, oh good point :) | 07:46 |
| eumel8 | and in small files you can't change anything | 07:46 |
| eumel8 | difficult | 07:47 |
| ianychoi | Hmm.. I think we need to have more time.. agreed eumel8 | 07:47 |
| ianychoi | Please think about this, and I will open this topic again on next IRC meeting, and also Barcelona meetup if needed | 07:47 |
| eumel8 | ok | 07:47 |
| adiantum | great | 07:48 |
| zzxwill | great. | 07:48 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, adiantum, zzxwill thank you :) | 07:48 |
| ianychoi | #topic Open discussions | 07:48 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open discussions (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 07:48 | |
| ianychoi | Yey~ anything is "open" :) | 07:48 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, in Korea, actually ujuc, Korean i18n coordinator created a Slack channel | 07:49 |
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| zzxwill | Slack is a cool IM tool, while it's not stable in mainland China. | 07:49 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, hmm... Slack connection is unstable in China? | 07:50 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, could you see the link: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/community/2016-September/001647.html ? | 07:50 |
| zzxwill | Yes, for some reason you might know:( | 07:50 |
| zzxwill | Yes I can. | 07:51 |
| ianychoi | Ye Lu's reply was that Chinese people rarely use ask.o.oand there're already better methods for getting help in the Chinese user group. | 07:51 |
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| ianychoi | I want to know that better methods in Chinese user group has :) | 07:51 |
| ianychoi | And maybe zzxwill also wants to know those better methods? :) | 07:51 |
| zzxwill | We use WeChat (China WhatsApp) | 07:51 |
| zzxwill | Yes. | 07:52 |
| adiantum | in Russia we tryed IRC and eventually decided to move to Telegram | 07:52 |
| ianychoi | Actually my perspective is a little bit different from the article.. For local communication, there may be lots of different environmental, and cultural differences | 07:52 |
| ianychoi | I respect those variety | 07:53 |
| eumel8 | We have the mailling-list i18n-de and it's worked out for us. | 07:53 |
| ianychoi | But... since we are in official I18n team, it is much better if we encourage more people to use standard OpenStack communications e.g., IRC | 07:53 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, yep also mailing lists | 07:53 |
| ianychoi | However, sometimes the reality is different... | 07:54 |
| ianychoi | adiantum, yep I have used Telegram :) However I am not using now... T.T | 07:54 |
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| ianychoi | Question zzxwill and adiantum : Wechat and Telegram are also open to foreign people? | 07:55 |
| adiantum | ianychoi, Telegramm currently is very popular in Russia, but may be not so popular in Korea =) | 07:55 |
| zzxwill | Now I learnt some tools for local user group. Thanks. | 07:55 |
| adiantum | ianychoi, Telegram definitely open | 07:55 |
| ianychoi | adiantum, Telegram is still popular but in Korea there is more popular communication methods (e.g., KakaoTalk, Line, ...) | 07:55 |
| zzxwill | Yes WeChat is. It's the most widely used tool for Chinese users and foreigners. | 07:55 |
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| zzxwill | Line is also popular in China. | 07:56 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, wow I did not know such thing :) | 07:56 |
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| ianychoi | Oops.. so... now it is difficult to conclude good ideas to encourage translators.. | 07:56 |
| zzxwill | It's the most widely used tool for Chinese users and [some] foreigners [living in China] | 07:57 |
| ianychoi | zzxwill, but I think more communication is one of ways to encourage translations :) | 07:57 |
| zzxwill | Agreed. | 07:57 |
| eumel8 | maybe something to share on a wiki page... | 07:57 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, yep That's why I updated a lot on https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/I18nTeamMeeting | 07:57 |
| ianychoi | and also https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/I18N/MeetingLogs | 07:58 |
| eumel8 | I saw it, thx! | 07:58 |
| ianychoi | New registration was blocked for a few months so almost nobody updated.. | 07:58 |
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| ianychoi | but Let's try to facilitate wiki pages :) | 07:58 |
| ianychoi | Sorry I need to go ... | 07:58 |
| ianychoi | Can I close now? | 07:58 |
| zzxwill | Sure. | 07:59 |
| zzxwill | Thank you. | 07:59 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, I will reply your translate check site later :) | 07:59 |
| ianychoi | Thank you all! | 07:59 |
| eumel8 | ok, thx ianychoi | 07:59 |
| ianychoi | #endmeeting | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 6 08:00:01 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-10-06-07.00.html | 08:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-10-06-07.00.txt | 08:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-10-06-07.00.log.html | 08:00 |
| adiantum | thank you | 08:00 |
| eumel8 | thx to all - have a nice day/night | 08:00 |
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| masayukig | #startmeeting qa | 09:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 6 09:00:35 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is masayukig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 09:00 |
| masayukig | Who's here for today? | 09:01 |
| masayukig | or should I skip this meeting? | 09:02 |
| masayukig | ping dmellado , jordanP ? | 09:03 |
| jordanP | I am here :) | 09:04 |
| dmellado | o/ | 09:04 |
| masayukig | phew | 09:04 |
| dmellado | masayukig: got caught 'interoping' xD | 09:04 |
| dmellado | but I'm here | 09:04 |
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| masayukig | dmellado : heh, hi :) | 09:05 |
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| masayukig | ok, so, let's get started | 09:05 |
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| masayukig | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_October_6th_2016_.280900_UTC.29 | 09:05 |
| masayukig | Today's agenda ^^ | 09:06 |
| masayukig | so, first topic is | 09:06 |
| masayukig | #topic Newton Priorities | 09:06 |
| masayukig | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-qa-newton-priorities | 09:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Newton Priorities (Meeting topic: qa)" | 09:06 | |
| masayukig | But I don't think we need to track one by one. | 09:06 |
| masayukig | Does anyone have something to say? | 09:07 |
| dmellado | I don't think so either | 09:07 |
| dmellado | there are a few missing unit tests for service clients only | 09:07 |
| dmellado | and a few service clients to migrate, maybe 1 or 2 | 09:07 |
| dmellado | but that part should be about done | 09:07 |
| dmellado | anything from os-health, masayukig ? | 09:08 |
| masayukig | dmellado : thanks, actually no about o-h thing, But I saw some patches landed. | 09:08 |
| masayukig | and | 09:08 |
| masayukig | I actually have one, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355666/ is for "The last piece: Use 'tempest init' and 'tempest run' on the gate" | 09:09 |
| masayukig | I'm now tackling with this. This is still SUPER WIP, but baby steps. | 09:09 |
| * andreaf o/ | 09:09 | |
| masayukig | hi andreaf ! | 09:10 |
| dmellado | andreaf: hey ;) | 09:10 |
| dmellado | welcome back | 09:10 |
| andreaf | hi - thanks | 09:10 |
| masayukig | andreaf : any update from you about https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/newton-qa-newton-priorities ? | 09:10 |
| andreaf | masayukig: no - I'm just back from holidays - so work done in the past two+ weeks | 09:11 |
| masayukig | andreaf : ah, cool, I see :) | 09:11 |
| masayukig | anything else, guys? | 09:12 |
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| dmellado | I guess that's it | 09:13 |
| masayukig | ok, | 09:13 |
| masayukig | next topic | 09:13 |
| jordanP | I think I'll give Cleanup client and manager aliases (the manager aliases) a shot soon | 09:13 |
| masayukig | jordanP : oh, nice :) | 09:13 |
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| masayukig | #topic Next Summit | 09:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Next Summit (Meeting topic: qa)" | 09:15 | |
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| masayukig | so, we have some QA slots: 3fb 4wr | 09:15 |
| masayukig | But I think the proposed topic is still not enough: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-qa-summit-topics | 09:16 |
| dmellado | masayukig: andreaf | 09:16 |
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| dmellado | I'd like to propose a topic about how to handle plug-ins | 09:16 |
| dmellado | but maybe that'd be related to mtreinish's TC proposal | 09:16 |
| dmellado | and andreaf work on Manila | 09:16 |
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| dmellado | I'm aware that we do treat them as some kind of 'third party' | 09:17 |
| masayukig | dmellado : yeah, but please feel free to add your thoughts | 09:17 |
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| dmellado | but I've spending a ton of time cleaning up them, and was wondering if having a discussion on how to proceed with them | 09:17 |
| dmellado | either the forceful repo | 09:17 |
| dmellado | or another options | 09:17 |
| dmellado | would be great | 09:17 |
| dmellado | btw /me got added to discuss that for manila too | 09:18 |
| dmellado | so I think that spending a session for that could be good | 09:18 |
| dmellado | wdyt guys? | 09:18 |
| masayukig | manila? what kind of thing? | 09:18 |
| dmellado | masayukig: on the dev session from manila they asked me to join for a topic on how to stop pinning tempest | 09:19 |
| dmellado | and properly handle the plugin | 09:19 |
| dmellado | so instead of doing also that, maybe we could put up a session on the plugins and have folks from other projects come | 09:19 |
| masayukig | hmm, we should add more docs or should have a hands-on session or something? | 09:20 |
| jordanP | as far as I know they have a problem with authentication of tenant-isolation | 09:20 |
| dmellado | mmm masayukig jordanP maybe both | 09:21 |
| dmellado | jordanP: also, there were quite a few of tempest imports | 09:21 |
| dmellado | there's a blueprint for that | 09:21 |
| dmellado | mkoderer___: put up a patch and we were discussing that at the mid-cycle | 09:21 |
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| dmellado | but if there are available slots and not too many topics, I think it'd be worthwhile | 09:22 |
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| dmellado | andreaf: you were also working on manila to avoid pinning, weren't you? | 09:22 |
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| jordanP | anyway there's not a lot we can do, they should step up and learn how to use the framework/plugins | 09:22 |
| jordanP | there's always a bit of a learning curve | 09:23 |
| andreaf | dmellado: I was working on the manila plugin to use the latest stable interface (clients) - which requires using a more recent version of tempest | 09:23 |
| andreaf | ideally no pinning | 09:23 |
| andreaf | if all unstable interfaces are dropped so can pinning, but there's more used by manila right now | 09:23 |
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| dmellado | jordanP: yep, for instance I've been seeing (and putting patches) | 09:25 |
| dmellado | against wrong usage of service_available CFG | 09:25 |
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| dmellado | in quite a bit of projects | 09:25 |
| masayukig | It might be good to have a slot for it. But anyways, I think it's good to add your ideas on the etherpad. We will be able to discuss them later. | 09:26 |
| dmellado | masayukig: will do | 09:26 |
| dmellado | let's discuss it there and with a broader audience ,) | 09:26 |
| masayukig | dmellado : cool, thanks :) | 09:26 |
| dmellado | so please continue | 09:26 |
| masayukig | yeah | 09:26 |
| masayukig | anything else on the next summit topic? | 09:27 |
| masayukig | ok | 09:27 |
| masayukig | #topic Specs Reviews | 09:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Specs Reviews (Meeting topic: qa)" | 09:27 | |
| masayukig | we have some patches on the gerrit | 09:27 |
| masayukig | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 09:28 |
| masayukig | I actually leave them these days... | 09:28 |
| masayukig | andreaf : you have some patches, do you want to bring something? | 09:29 |
| andreaf | masayukig: nothing from my side right now | 09:30 |
| masayukig | ok | 09:30 |
| masayukig | I'll review them, anyways | 09:30 |
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| masayukig | so, next topic is | 09:31 |
| masayukig | #topic Tempest | 09:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tempest (Meeting topic: qa)" | 09:31 | |
| masayukig | do you have anything to bring up? | 09:31 |
| masayukig | so, if nothing, I have one :) | 09:33 |
| dmellado | go for it ;) | 09:33 |
| masayukig | the patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358149/ was approved | 09:33 |
| masayukig | 'Add "daily" option to bugdaystats.py' | 09:33 |
| masayukig | This makes daily bug triage counts in JSON for a half year | 09:34 |
| * dmellado needs to go for a doctor checkup, will follow-up later with you guys | 09:34 | |
| masayukig | like oomichi's graph | 09:34 |
| masayukig | dmellado : oh, take care :) | 09:35 |
| dmellado | masayukig: I'll look for the link on the spec later and will review it | 09:35 |
| dmellado | see you later guys | 09:35 |
| dmellado | thanks! | 09:35 |
| masayukig | \o/ | 09:35 |
| jordanP | I have a couple of reviews to drop sahara tests, negative auto tests and stress tests. I'd like them to be merged right after we tag tempest 13. that would be great :) | 09:35 |
| dmellado | jordanP: just before I go, did you sync with tosky on the sahara drop? | 09:35 |
| dmellado | I kinda recall that yes | 09:35 |
| dmellado | but just in case | 09:35 |
| jordanP | yeah he +1 the patch | 09:36 |
| masayukig | jordanP : wow, nice | 09:36 |
| dmellado | ack then, thanks! | 09:36 |
| dmellado | when do we plan to tag 13, btw? | 09:36 |
| dmellado | this week? next? | 09:36 |
| masayukig | I have no idea, oomichi or mtreinish knows it? | 09:37 |
| * dmellado will read up later, going ;) | 09:37 | |
| * masayukig waves | 09:37 | |
| masayukig | so, anything else on Tempest? | 09:37 |
| masayukig | if not, next topic is | 09:37 |
| masayukig | #topic DevStack + Grenade | 09:38 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "DevStack + Grenade (Meeting topic: qa)" | 09:38 | |
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| frickler | hi, sorry for stumbling in late, but I'd like to draw some attention to | 09:38 |
| frickler | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/devstack/+bug/1629133 | 09:38 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1629133 in devstack "New neutron subnet pool support breaks multinode testing." [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Miguel Angel Ajo (mangelajo) | 09:38 |
| masayukig | frickler : hi :) | 09:38 |
| frickler | this is being pushed around for a week now | 09:38 |
| frickler | and seems to still be a cause for a lot of gate jobs failing | 09:39 |
| masayukig | frickler : hrm, it's too bad, but it seems Miguel are doing for it? | 09:41 |
| masayukig | I actually don't know the bug details, though.. | 09:42 |
| frickler | https://review.openstack.org/381965 has -W, maybe it would help if some QA core could join the effort | 09:42 |
| masayukig | frickler : ok, I'm actually not a devstack core but a tempest. But I hope oomichi , mtreinish , sc68cal , or some other guys probably help it. | 09:44 |
| frickler | masayukig: k, lets hope they take a look at the log later | 09:44 |
| masayukig | yeah.. | 09:45 |
| masayukig | anything else? | 09:45 |
| masayukig | (15 mins) | 09:45 |
| masayukig | if not, the next topic is | 09:45 |
| masayukig | #topic openstack-health | 09:45 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "openstack-health (Meeting topic: qa)" | 09:45 | |
| masayukig | But I already told about this before. I have nothing more. | 09:46 |
| masayukig | ok, move forward | 09:46 |
| masayukig | #topic Critical Reviews | 09:46 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Critical Reviews (Meeting topic: qa)" | 09:46 | |
| jordanP | as a general note, I've seen a couple of migration tests trying to be added lately. Be sure that they are run somewwhere, in some jobs. | 09:46 |
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| masayukig | jordanP : thanks, you added it for the REVIEW docs | 09:48 |
| jordanP | and as usual, pay also attention to code duplication. We can't have 10 different ways to create a volume or a server | 09:48 |
| * masayukig keeps in mind | 09:49 | |
| jordanP | finally, when a new test is beeing added, ask yourself whether it is not already tested somewhere else | 09:49 |
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| jordanP | it's easier to add a test for an untested feature than to go over all the tests and look for duplicates | 09:49 |
| jordanP | once a test is in, it super hard to remove it | 09:49 |
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| masayukig | jordanP : yeah, agree | 09:50 |
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| masayukig | I think it's important, There's very few people in this meeting, though.. | 09:51 |
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| masayukig | ok, 9 mins left | 09:51 |
| masayukig | do you have anything to bring up for critical reviews? | 09:52 |
| DavidPurcell | Is it possible to discuss a Tempest spec I created during this part of the meeting? | 09:52 |
| DavidPurcell | Or should I save it for open discussion? | 09:52 |
| masayukig | DavidPurcell : hi, | 09:52 |
| DavidPurcell | hello :) | 09:52 |
| jordanP | you can go ahead :) | 09:53 |
| masayukig | yeah | 09:53 |
| DavidPurcell | Okay. I brought it up at last week's meeting | 09:53 |
| DavidPurcell | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382672/ | 09:53 |
| masayukig | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382672/ | 09:53 |
| DavidPurcell | Thanks. | 09:54 |
| masayukig | DavidPurcell : you need more reviewers for this, right? | 09:54 |
| DavidPurcell | I assume so, I'm not 100% sure on the process | 09:54 |
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| masayukig | ok, I think if this is complicated or needs to face to face discussion, and you'll come to the summit, you can add this as a design summit topic. | 09:56 |
| DavidPurcell | I won't be there, but some other representatives from my company (AT&T) will be. | 09:57 |
| masayukig | DavidPurcell : ok, you can feel free to add it if you need it. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-qa-summit-topics | 09:57 |
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| masayukig | But the slots are limited, though... | 09:58 |
| masayukig | DavidPurcell : thanks :) | 09:58 |
| masayukig | so, 2 mins | 09:58 |
| masayukig | anything else, guys? | 09:59 |
| masayukig | #topic Open Discussion | 09:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: qa)" | 09:59 | |
| masayukig | ok, i just changed the topic | 09:59 |
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| masayukig | do you have anything to chat? | 09:59 |
| masayukig | if not, time's up! | 10:00 |
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| masayukig | so, thanks guys!!! | 10:00 |
| masayukig | if you have something, bring it to qa channel :) | 10:01 |
| masayukig | #endmeeting | 10:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 6 10:01:09 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-10-06-09.00.html | 10:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-10-06-09.00.txt | 10:01 |
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| mriedem | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 6 14:00:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:00 |
| jroll | \o | 14:00 |
| dansmith | o.hai | 14:00 |
| gibi | o/ | 14:00 |
| auggy | o/ | 14:00 |
| efried | \_@_/ | 14:00 |
| bauzas | \o | 14:00 |
| raj_singh | o/ | 14:00 |
| edleafe | \o | 14:00 |
| cdent | o | 14:00 |
| peter-hamilton | o/ | 14:00 |
| lyarwood | o/ | 14:00 |
| dane-fichter | o/ | 14:00 |
| * kashyap waves | 14:00 | |
| lbeliveau | o/ | 14:00 |
| thorst_ | o/ | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | o/ | 14:01 |
| mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova | 14:01 |
| mriedem | let's do this | 14:01 |
| mriedem | #topic release news | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release news (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:01 | |
| mriedem | #info newton release should happen today | 14:01 |
| mriedem | #link Draft Ocata release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Ocata_Release_Schedule | 14:01 |
| bauzas | it's done http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2016-October/001776.html | 14:01 |
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| mriedem | oh nice | 14:02 |
| sdague | o/ | 14:02 |
| mriedem | well congratulations everyone | 14:02 |
| jroll | \o/ | 14:02 |
| bauzas | yay | 14:02 |
| mriedem | #topic summit planning | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "summit planning (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:02 | |
| mriedem | #link Nova Ocata design summit draft schedule: https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Nova%3A | 14:02 |
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| mriedem | we also have a 5pm nova/neutron session on wed in the neutron room | 14:03 |
| mriedem | and jroll is asking about a 10pm nova/ironic session on wed | 14:03 |
| dansmith | heh | 14:03 |
| mriedem | more like 6pm | 14:03 |
| jroll | lol | 14:03 |
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| mriedem | i'm open to that if others can come too, specifically dansmith and jaypipes given it's placement related | 14:03 |
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| dansmith | yeah, I'm down | 14:03 |
| dansmith | not with the timing, but I <3 jroll too much to miss it | 14:04 |
| jroll | so another option would be something like 11am friday, if you could spare some api/placement people, figure it doesn't overlap with libvirt too much | 14:04 |
| sdague | jroll is going to provide beer, right? | 14:04 |
| jroll | d'aww | 14:04 |
| jroll | sure | 14:04 |
| jroll | or sangria | 14:04 |
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| mriedem | jroll: dansmith will need to be in the libvirt session | 14:04 |
| jroll | so for context, the session is around allowing users to do advanced raid/partioning requests | 14:04 |
| jroll | or maybe putting that in flavors or something | 14:04 |
| edleafe | jroll: I can probably make 11am Fri | 14:05 |
| jroll | if people are cool with 6pm wed I'm good with that | 14:05 |
| dansmith | I will be more grumpy on friday | 14:05 |
| bauzas | jroll: contributorse meetup maybe ? | 14:05 |
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| edleafe | dansmith: how would we be able to tell? | 14:05 |
| bauzas | ooooh contributors* | 14:05 |
| jroll | bauzas: yeah that could work too | 14:05 |
| mriedem | people are leaving friday afternoon | 14:06 |
| dansmith | edleafe: I have a gauge.. it's kinda hidden.. remind me to show it to you | 14:06 |
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| edleafe | dansmith: eeek! Put that thing away! | 14:06 |
| jroll | O_O | 14:06 |
| mriedem | ok, well we have some flexibility with our 11am slot on friday if needed | 14:06 |
| bauzas | mriedem: that's a good question, I dunno who will stay | 14:06 |
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| mriedem | i.e. we could move that to 9am and slide up the cinder/docs sessions | 14:06 |
| mriedem | but if 6pm on wed is ok for people then let's do that | 14:06 |
| alaski | o/ | 14:06 |
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| jroll | mriedem: okay, I'll talk to ironic people, preferring 6pm wed > 11am fri > fri afternoon | 14:07 |
| mriedem | cool | 14:07 |
| jroll | thanks! | 14:07 |
| mriedem | ok, were there any questions about the design summit track layout? | 14:07 |
| mriedem | no one screamed in the ML | 14:07 |
| mriedem | mdbooth confirmed he's good with 11am on friday | 14:07 |
| mriedem | so i'll assume people are generally in favor | 14:08 |
| edleafe | mriedem: lgtm | 14:08 |
| mriedem | oh i see cdent replied | 14:08 |
| cdent | mriedem: i made a last minute que | 14:08 |
| cdent | yeah, jinx | 14:08 |
| cdent | nothing bad, just curious | 14:08 |
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| mriedem | cdent: so there is a xp session on tuesday or wednesday on scaling review teams/decomposition, etc | 14:08 |
| mriedem | which is more for the high level meta type discussions | 14:09 |
| cdent | mriedem: yeah, saw that too | 14:09 |
| mriedem | we'll be doing a retrospective specifically on placement as we have actionable things there i think | 14:09 |
| cdent | I think it's both days at this point, yeah? | 14:09 |
| mriedem | and we'll be doing sort of a mini retrospective in the libvirt imagebackend session on friday | 14:09 |
| bauzas | like I said, 40 mins is short, and I'd like to get actionable items | 14:09 |
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| cdent | Well, I hope we can transfer them elsewhere too, because everybody else needs action too. | 14:09 |
| mriedem | i'm not sure what that means | 14:10 |
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| mriedem | there is plenty of work to go around | 14:10 |
| auggy | I have a question, when would be the best time to talk new contributor stuff? Friday? | 14:10 |
| mriedem | probably | 14:10 |
| dane-fichter | is there a slot for talking about security stuff w.r.t. nova? | 14:11 |
| bauzas | auggy: what do you want to address ? I think we made a good progress last summit on the process | 14:11 |
| cdent | mriedem: I mean any actions we learn from retrospecting on placement can hopefully be applied across nova | 14:11 |
| mriedem | dane-fichter: no, i don't think anyone proposed anything on that | 14:11 |
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| mriedem | dane-fichter: so by default that moves to friday meetup style | 14:11 |
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| dane-fichter | mriedem: when's a good time to talk new features? friday? | 14:11 |
| mriedem | auggy: yeah we had a session on new contributors in austin, at this point i'd like to get feedback from new contributors before having another session on process changes | 14:12 |
| mriedem | we need the loop | 14:12 |
| auggy | bauzas: I proposed a session + brainstorm etherpad with objectives | 14:12 |
| mriedem | dane-fichter: unconference or friday meetup | 14:12 |
| dane-fichter | mriedem: cool, thanks. | 14:12 |
| auggy | Right that's what I'm proposing, how to get feedback | 14:13 |
| mriedem | keep in mind that unconference is time boxed to 4 10 min sessions | 14:13 |
| bauzas | auggy: are you sure you'd get feedback from new contributors at the Summit ? I certainly doubt | 14:13 |
| mriedem | auggy: i think friday meetup is fine for that, | 14:13 |
| bauzas | auggy: I was more thinking of some dematerialized way to get feedback | 14:13 |
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| mriedem | you could even start that discussion in the ML if you have thoughts | 14:14 |
| auggy | ok i can go that route | 14:14 |
| dane-fichter | mriedem: that's fine. just looking to cover some details of cert validation | 14:14 |
| dansmith | yeah, the austin session was not a normal occurrence | 14:14 |
| dansmith | and I don't really think we should do that again, especially considering the shortened schedule | 14:14 |
| auggy | bauzas: i wasn't expecting to get feedback from contributors, the session i proposed was about talking about what data we wanted to collect, etc | 14:14 |
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| bauzas | auggy: I think we can handle that asynchronously, esp. given the tight schedule in BCN :) | 14:15 |
| dansmith | +1 | 14:15 |
| auggy | works for me | 14:15 |
| mriedem | like i said, you might want to start priming that pump in the ML before barcelona | 14:15 |
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| mriedem | it may also feed into the xp session | 14:15 |
| mriedem | ok moving on | 14:16 |
| mriedem | #topic bugs | 14:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:16 | |
| mriedem | we have 2 critical bugs this morning it looks like | 14:16 |
| mriedem | https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bugs?search=Search&field.importance=Critical&field.status=New&field.status=Incomplete&field.status=Confirmed&field.status=Triaged&field.status=In+Progress | 14:16 |
| mriedem | garyk reported both of those against newton | 14:16 |
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| dansmith | mriedem: first one is permission denied on the filesystem | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think we was debugging that with mdbooth this morning | 14:18 |
| mriedem | ok i've marked the first as incomplete given mdbooth's triage questions | 14:19 |
| mriedem | and i've marked the 2nd as high, not critical | 14:19 |
| mriedem | as it's in a periodic task | 14:19 |
| mriedem | mdbooth: thanks for triaging those | 14:19 |
| mdbooth | mriedem: First looked like a config issue in the end. Not confirmed, but probable. | 14:19 |
| mriedem | yeah | 14:20 |
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| bauzas | yeah, it *looks* | 14:20 |
| mriedem | would be good to know if the latter one is a regression in newton, but we can check that later | 14:20 |
| mriedem | ok moving on | 14:20 |
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| mriedem | gate status is not terrible | 14:21 |
| mriedem | there are some bugs though | 14:21 |
| mriedem | looks like the ceph one that was plaguing us has a fix merged now though and is dropping off https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377118/ | 14:21 |
| mriedem | 3rd party ci status, | 14:22 |
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| mriedem | virtuozzo storage ci should be fixed | 14:22 |
| mriedem | i don't have anything to report on other 3rd party ci | 14:22 |
| jaypipes | sorry I'm late... | 14:23 |
| mriedem | #topic reminders | 14:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:23 | |
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| mriedem | (auggy): DocImpact tag reminder to reviewers! Changes with DocImpact tags create a bug; make sure there's a description of what documentation is needed! | 14:23 |
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| auggy | yes that | 14:23 |
| auggy | basically when you use a docimpact tag, don't forget to provide some info | 14:24 |
| mriedem | i'd also like to remind nova-specs cores that if you approve a spec, please remember to toggle the bp bits in launchpad, like mark it approved and target it for ocata | 14:24 |
| auggy | there were about 14 bugs in expired or new state last i'd checked (i've been working through them) | 14:24 |
| mriedem | i'm trying to keep a daily track of how much throughput we have on bps | 14:24 |
| mriedem | auggy: docs bugs? | 14:25 |
| auggy | yeah sorry, doc impact auto-bugs | 14:25 |
| auggy | if there's docinfo, i can mark as confirmed and often tag as low hanging fruit so others can pick up the work | 14:25 |
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| auggy | anyways that's all i had on that :) | 14:25 |
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| mriedem | ok before i ask about bug skimming duty, | 14:25 |
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| mriedem | i wanted to ask if there are any newish contributors here that are even interested in helping out with bugs | 14:26 |
| mriedem | because no one attended the bugs meeting this week | 14:26 |
| mriedem | imo bug duty is a repo maintainers job, not a new contributors job | 14:26 |
| mriedem | which is why it doesn't get a lot of traction | 14:26 |
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| mriedem | so let's move on | 14:27 |
| cdent | mriedem: I've been wanting to for months, but no cycles | 14:27 |
| cdent | that may be changing | 14:27 |
| cdent | I suspect "no cycles" is a common problem | 14:27 |
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| auggy | also even if people just want to skim a bug here and there or do other bug queue maintenance in between things, it's a big help | 14:27 |
| mriedem | cdent: is there something you want to tell jaypipes in public? | 14:27 |
| cdent | oh jaypipes knows, it's not like I'm quiet about it | 14:28 |
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| mriedem | auggy: yes i'm not trying to say triage isn't appreciated, there are always very simple invalid bugs that can be closed out | 14:28 |
| mriedem | #topic Stable branch status: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker | 14:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable branch status: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:29 | |
| auggy | of course! didn't get that impression at all, just letting folks know they can help out with bug skimming without committing to it ;) | 14:29 |
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| bauzas | honestly, it's not really big deal to play with bugs | 14:29 |
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| * mriedem thinks of a joke | 14:29 | |
| bauzas | you can commit only a few mins of your time or a whole day | 14:29 |
| mriedem | yes it's helpful to spend 15 minutes each day looking at new bugs | 14:29 |
| bauzas | just take one bug if you can't afford more, it'll still help | 14:30 |
| mriedem | so onto stable | 14:30 |
| mriedem | we released stable/liberty last week | 14:30 |
| mriedem | i think 12.0.5 | 14:30 |
| mriedem | probably our last stable/liberty release | 14:30 |
| mriedem | before EOL | 14:30 |
| * jaypipes gives cdent a bicycle. there, you now have more cycles. | 14:30 | |
| cdent | \o/ | 14:30 |
| * mriedem does rimshot | 14:30 | |
| mriedem | i requested a stable/mitaka release last night | 14:30 |
| cdent | I hope it is shiny and red and comes with a big orange flag | 14:30 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: but all you got was that lousy master branch? | 14:31 |
| mriedem | and we'll be doing a stable/newton release next week for bugs that didn't make the official release | 14:31 |
| edleafe | cdent: but what color will the shed be? | 14:31 |
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| jaypipes | edleafe: brown. | 14:31 |
| mriedem | jaypipes: yeah, those bums | 14:31 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382695/ | 14:31 |
| bauzas | mriedem: I know it's a question I always ask, but when do we plan to phase-II Mitaka ? | 14:31 |
| bauzas | :) | 14:31 |
| mriedem | bauzas: that's a better question for the stable team weekly meeting | 14:32 |
| mriedem | i defer to tonyb | 14:32 |
| bauzas | okay, I guess I can hold my breath until then :) | 14:32 |
| mriedem | btw, thanks to those that did the mitaka review push last week | 14:32 |
| mriedem | i saw the queue really drained, so thanks for that | 14:32 |
| mriedem | i know who you are | 14:33 |
| mriedem | ;) | 14:33 |
| mriedem | #topic subteam highlights | 14:33 |
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| mriedem | let's blow through these | 14:33 |
| mriedem | alaski: cells didn't have a meeting this week | 14:33 |
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| mriedem | right? | 14:33 |
| alaski | yep | 14:33 |
| * edleafe has mine queued up | 14:33 | |
| mriedem | edleafe: scheduler | 14:33 |
| mriedem | go | 14:33 |
| edleafe | We discussed work on traits API and final RequestSpec object tasks | 14:33 |
| edleafe | We also tried to make the idea of pair development clearer to spread knowledge | 14:33 |
| edleafe | Lots of confusion about required/optional placement DB in Ocata | 14:33 |
| edleafe | Resolution was it will remain optional until placement engine is separated from Nova | 14:33 |
| edleafe | that's it | 14:33 |
| mriedem | ok | 14:34 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: are you around? | 14:34 |
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| mriedem | pkoniszewski: ? | 14:35 |
| mriedem | i wasn't around for the live migration meeting | 14:35 |
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| mriedem | one thing of news for live migration, | 14:36 |
| mriedem | pkoniszewski got a job in the nova experimental queue that runs live migration + grenade multinode | 14:36 |
| mriedem | so we can actually test live migration from newton to ocata and ocata to newton now | 14:36 |
| mriedem | which is super sweet | 14:36 |
| mriedem | there are changes up for review to toggle the back and forth that raj_singh helped with also | 14:36 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:lm-grenade | 14:36 |
| pkoniszewski | i'm around | 14:36 |
| mriedem | pkoniszewski: just singing your praises | 14:37 |
| pkoniszewski | oh, thanks :D | 14:37 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, we discussed ways to make progress and a config in tempest I think | 14:37 |
| jaypipes | thx pkoniszewski! | 14:37 |
| pkoniszewski | so yeah, i proposed a chain of patches to implement new config option | 14:37 |
| pkoniszewski | so that basing on a job type it will live migrate both ways or just one way | 14:37 |
| mriedem | yup and the grenade multinode jobs will be the ones that test live migration both ways | 14:38 |
| pkoniszewski | exactly | 14:38 |
| mriedem | so we don't burn cycles trying to live migration both ways to the same node | 14:38 |
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| mriedem | ok, let's move on | 14:38 |
| mriedem | sdague: alex_xu: johnthetubaguy: api subteam meeting highlights? | 14:39 |
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| johnthetubaguy | we skipped it this week | 14:39 |
| mriedem | ok | 14:39 |
| mriedem | i know there are specs up for review | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | will discuss the plan for the summit session, and the security groups spec I have up next week | 14:39 |
| mriedem | for the api | 14:39 |
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| mriedem | wznoinsk: lbeliveau: sriov/pci meeting? | 14:40 |
| mriedem | i think that happened | 14:40 |
| lbeliveau | yes | 14:40 |
| lbeliveau | both tempests for cold migration and revert migration has been merged (works also for non-SRIOV) | 14:40 |
| wznoinsk | mriedem: yes | 14:40 |
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| lbeliveau | we had some discussions around CI and blueprints, but nothing major to report | 14:40 |
| lbeliveau | there is one outstanding commit left that fixes functionnality for cold migration revert | 14:40 |
| mriedem | lbeliveau: i saw that tempest patch landed, that's cool | 14:40 |
| lbeliveau | jaypipes: dansmith: if you can have a look at the new patch set that would be great https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349060/ | 14:41 |
| lbeliveau | that's it :) | 14:41 |
| mriedem | lbeliveau: so will ^ be tested/verified with the new tempest test? | 14:41 |
| mriedem | via mellanox ci i mean | 14:41 |
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| lbeliveau | let me verify with moshele | 14:42 |
| mriedem | ok | 14:42 |
| mriedem | that would be good info in that change | 14:42 |
| mriedem | gibi: notifications meeting highlights? | 14:42 |
| gibi | yes | 14:43 |
| gibi | just two things | 14:43 |
| gibi | about 10 notification transformation patches are up for review already | 14:43 |
| gibi | subteam reviewing the patches | 14:43 |
| tdurakov | mriedem: hi, sorry, was afk | 14:43 |
| gibi | and | 14:43 |
| gibi | [3;2~the tranformation work got a new automatic burndown chart and todo list | 14:43 |
| gibi | #link https://vntburndown-gibi.rhcloud.com/index.html | 14:43 |
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| gibi | that is all | 14:43 |
| mriedem | i saw that, nice | 14:44 |
| mriedem | #topic stuck reviews | 14:44 |
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| mriedem | (peter-hamilton): Would like to discuss ways forward for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357151/ . Related to: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/nova-support-image-signing | 14:44 |
| peter-hamilton | should i summarize the spec or just jump right in? | 14:44 |
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| mriedem | i've asked danpb to join | 14:44 |
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| peter-hamilton | mriedem: thanks! | 14:44 |
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| jaypipes | lbeliveau: I've had that up in my todo list for a while now. will get to it today, promise. | 14:45 |
| mriedem | danpb: hola | 14:45 |
| lbeliveau | jaypipes: thanks ! | 14:45 |
| mriedem | danpb: discussing https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357151/ | 14:45 |
| mriedem | peter-hamilton: ok go ahead | 14:45 |
| peter-hamilton | ok, the spec's for improving signature verification by adding cert validation | 14:45 |
| danpb | mriedem: ok, pretty much as i said on the review - i don't think this proposal takes us in a direction we want to go | 14:46 |
| peter-hamilton | danpb: understood, alternatives have implications | 14:46 |
| danpb | its not even solving the stated problem in the spec | 14:46 |
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| danpb | and building something that is of no use to us once we have the real solution | 14:47 |
| danpb | which gives us a maintenance burden we don't need | 14:47 |
| dane-fichter | danpb: how is it not solving the problem | 14:47 |
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| dane-fichter | the problem is that the signing certs aren't validated. | 14:47 |
| danpb | the tenant user wants to boot an image and want guarantee that the image is signed by a cert that *they* trust | 14:48 |
| danpb | the solution is providing a way for cloud admin to list what certs the /host/ trusts | 14:48 |
| danpb | so that does nothing to help the tenant user | 14:48 |
| dane-fichter | I'd argue that the tenant user has to trust the cloud admin already... | 14:49 |
| danpb | the cloud admin shoudln't even care about certs at all | 14:49 |
| peter-hamilton | i disagree | 14:49 |
| dane-fichter | peter-hamilton: you have alternatives, right? | 14:49 |
| danpb | all the images are running inside VMs, so whether the image is signed or not is irrelevant to the cloud admin | 14:49 |
| peter-hamilton | dane-fichter: yes | 14:49 |
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| dane-fichter | let's discuss those | 14:49 |
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| dane-fichter | arguing over this trust model isn't going to progress this discussion imp | 14:50 |
| dane-fichter | imo* | 14:50 |
| peter-hamilton | a service has to handle the tenant/user -> trusted cert mapping | 14:50 |
| mriedem | which is not barbican i read | 14:50 |
| peter-hamilton | there are 3 options: nova, keystone, barbican/castellan | 14:50 |
| mriedem | so a new service to manage certs? | 14:50 |
| * peter-hamilton shudders | 14:50 | |
| dane-fichter | that's a non-starter | 14:50 |
| mriedem | have you talked to the keystone team about this? | 14:50 |
| danpb | we don't need anything to manage certs for an initial implementation | 14:51 |
| danpb | the boot API in nova could simply take the ID of a trusted cert | 14:51 |
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| danpb | and the tenant can provide that when booting each VM | 14:51 |
| peter-hamilton | that would require the user to know the ID, seems very unreasonable | 14:51 |
| peter-hamilton | the ID of an individual cert that is | 14:51 |
| dane-fichter | especially since the trusted image may not be uploaded by the end user | 14:51 |
| danpb | of course it would be useful to have a permanent record of the tenant/cert mapping but solving that's not a pre-requisite for doing useful cert validation in nova | 14:51 |
| dane-fichter | danpb: understood | 14:52 |
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| dane-fichter | so you're proposing an API change in Nova? | 14:52 |
| danpb | i think that's desirable as the first step yes, as it avoids blocking the entire effort on creation of some cert managment service | 14:53 |
| dane-fichter | the consensus we've received from cores in the past is that modifying the boot command to support image signing is a non-starter | 14:53 |
| danpb | while still proividing a very useful capability to nova | 14:53 |
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| danpb | dane-fichter: i've certainly not said that before - i've suggested this approach in every cycle where this work has been proposed | 14:53 |
| dane-fichter | danpb: I admire the simplicity of this from an implementation perspective | 14:53 |
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| mriedem | time check, we have 6 minutes | 14:54 |
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| mriedem | can we move this to the mailing list? sounds like something we will need to discuss at the summit | 14:54 |
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| mriedem | probably part of unconference and then bleed into friday meetup | 14:54 |
| danpb | yes, i was just going to suggest moving it to summit | 14:54 |
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| dane-fichter | danpb: yeah i'll be at the summit to discuss this | 14:55 |
| mriedem | i'd like to have the alternatives fleshed out with pros/cons before the summit | 14:55 |
| dane-fichter | let's wrap it up for now | 14:55 |
| mriedem | so we don't have to play catchup | 14:55 |
| dane-fichter | thanks | 14:55 |
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| dane-fichter | mriedem: will do | 14:55 |
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| mriedem | thanks | 14:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | maybe fill out the alternatives section of the spec? | 14:55 |
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| * bauzas needs to drop earlier \o | 14:55 | |
| mriedem | well, there might be a new spec | 14:55 |
| peter-hamilton | johnthetubaguy: we can expand it, there are several options listed already | 14:55 |
| dane-fichter | johnthetubaguy: we'll flesh that out more too | 14:55 |
| mriedem | or swap the main change and alternatives | 14:55 |
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| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 14:55 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, all of those sound good | 14:55 |
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| mriedem | (mriedem): Start thinking about PTG attendance, February 20-2. Mon/Tues are cross-project, Wed-Fri are vertical team meetup-style. Mon and Fri would be 'optional'. | 14:56 |
| mriedem | i got an email from the foundation asking if nova was going to be at the PTG | 14:56 |
| mriedem | they have a survey, | 14:56 |
| mriedem | i'm assuming some people will be there | 14:56 |
| mriedem | i can't say i will be at this time | 14:56 |
| mriedem | but i wanted to bring that up as an fyi | 14:56 |
| mriedem | if you are sure you're going to the PTG please let me know in -nova | 14:56 |
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| mriedem | else i'll start a thread in the ML | 14:56 |
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| bauzas | open a thread | 14:57 |
| mriedem | ok with 3 minutes left | 14:57 |
| mriedem | (hferenc): Unifying image and flavor metadata (https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1582693 | 14:57 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1582693 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Image and flavor metadata for libvirt watchdog is handled erroneously" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Richil Bhalerao (richil-bhalerao) | 14:57 |
| bauzas | because some would engage discussions with management based on thart | 14:57 |
| mriedem | bauzas: ok wil do | 14:57 |
| mriedem | hferenc_: did you want to speak to that? ^ | 14:57 |
| hferenc_ | hi | 14:57 |
| hferenc_ | yes | 14:57 |
| hferenc_ | so i came across this issue some time ago when i was trying to implement tests that used flavor extra specs | 14:57 |
| hferenc_ | shortly, different modules/projects use extra specs formats inconsistently | 14:58 |
| hferenc_ | flavor is ':' based, image is '_' while '_' is used for both in horizon | 14:58 |
| hferenc_ | my question would be whether there is any ongoing work that aims to unify the extra specs formats? | 14:58 |
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| hferenc_ | or are there any plans to do this in the future? | 14:58 |
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| danpb | PTG is the dev meetup at the marketing summit, right ? | 14:58 |
| mriedem | fyi, melwitt recently went through something with this | 14:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | I was hoping to straighten a lot of that out with the tags things related to placement | 14:58 |
| mriedem | danpb: no | 14:58 |
| mriedem | danpb: PTG is the midcycle replacement | 14:58 |
| johnthetubaguy | I thought it was the design summit replacement | 14:59 |
| cdent | so much confusion on this | 14:59 |
| mriedem | danpb: but at the beginning of the cycle now | 14:59 |
| mriedem | danpb: marketing summit is now midway through the release | 14:59 |
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| anteaya | danpb: https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 14:59 |
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| mriedem | hferenc_: let's move this to #openstack-nova | 14:59 |
| mriedem | we're out of time | 14:59 |
| danpb | mriedem: oh right, wrong way around | 14:59 |
| mriedem | thanks everyone | 14:59 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:00 | |
| hferenc_ | ok | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 6 15:00:01 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-10-06-14.00.html | 15:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-10-06-14.00.txt | 15:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-10-06-14.00.log.html | 15:00 |
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| rtheis | hi | 17:58 |
| rtheis | networking-ovn meeting time | 17:59 |
| rtheis | #startmeeting networking_ovn | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 6 18:00:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is rtheis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: networking_ovn)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'networking_ovn' | 18:00 |
| rtheis | #topic Announcements | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: networking_ovn)" | 18:00 | |
| rtheis | networking-ovn 1.0.0 release (newton) is available | 18:00 |
| rtheis | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-announce/2016-October/001749.html | 18:00 |
| rtheis | \o/ | 18:00 |
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| rtheis | nice work to the team | 18:01 |
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| rtheis | I don't have any other announcements | 18:01 |
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| rtheis | #topic Bugs | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: networking_ovn)" | 18:01 | |
| rtheis | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-ovn/+bug/1627810 | 18:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1627810 in networking-ovn "gate-grenade-dsvm-networking-ovn-nv [Fail] Couldn't ping server " [Undecided,Confirmed] | 18:02 |
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| rtheis | Deferring fix while waiting for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346646/ to merge so the grenade job can test with native OVN L3. | 18:02 |
| rtheis | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-ovn/+bug/1621627 | 18:02 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1621627 in networking-ovn "Create multi-node CI job for networking-ovn" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Richard Theis (rtheis) | 18:02 |
| rtheis | Final patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378032/ is ready to merge. However, the multi-node job may require updates once https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346646/ merges. A new bug will be opened if that is the case. | 18:03 |
| rtheis | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-ovn/+bug/1622647 | 18:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1622647 in networking-ovn "Move OpenStack requirements to ovs 2.6.0" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Richard Theis (rtheis) | 18:03 |
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| rtheis | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/380493/ is needed to cleanup the requirements on the stable/newton branch. | 18:03 |
| azbiswas | I have a solution to the python idl mutate support - I'll post a patch on OVS and networking-ovn soon | 18:03 |
| rtheis | azbiswas: thank you | 18:03 |
| rtheis | let's move to that | 18:04 |
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| rtheis | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/networking-ovn/+bug/1629099 | 18:04 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1629099 in networking-ovn "OVS transaction mutate clears column data within transaction" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Richard Theis (rtheis) | 18:04 |
| rtheis | azbiswas: I assume that you are referring to http://openvswitch.org/pipermail/dev/2016-September/080120.html | 18:04 |
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| rtheis | does ovs team have plans for a 2.6.1 release? | 18:05 |
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| rtheis | It would be nice to get that fix in so we can cleanup networking-ovn | 18:05 |
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| rtheis | azbiswas: ping me the patch link and I'd be happy to help test it. | 18:06 |
| rtheis | anything else on bugs? | 18:07 |
| rtheis | #topic Reviews | 18:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reviews (Meeting topic: networking_ovn)" | 18:08 | |
| rtheis | NAT support (SNAT, FloatingIP): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/346646/ | 18:08 |
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| rtheis | Refuse port binding if not supported for host: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/372713/ | 18:08 |
| rtheis | Support native OVN DHCPv6: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/326964/ | 18:09 |
| rtheis | if you have time, please review these new function patches | 18:09 |
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| rtheis | Reminder to add new release notes as appropriate | 18:09 |
| rtheis | any other reviews? | 18:10 |
| rtheis | quiet day today | 18:10 |
| rtheis | #topic Open Discussion | 18:10 |
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| rtheis | what else is on your mind? | 18:11 |
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| * rtheis hoping russellb escaped the hurricane fine | 18:12 | |
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| rtheis | I don't have anything else | 18:13 |
| rtheis | alright, let's wrap up for today | 18:14 |
| rtheis | #endmeeting | 18:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:14 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 6 18:14:10 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:14 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ovn/2016/networking_ovn.2016-10-06-18.00.html | 18:14 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ovn/2016/networking_ovn.2016-10-06-18.00.txt | 18:14 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/networking_ovn/2016/networking_ovn.2016-10-06-18.00.log.html | 18:14 |
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| stevemar | o/ | 19:00 |
| ankur-gupta-f | \o/ | 19:01 |
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| armax | yello | 22:00 |
| amotoki | hi | 22:00 |
| johnsom | o/ | 22:00 |
| njohnston | o/ | 22:00 |
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| sbelous | hi | 22:00 |
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| armax | hello folks | 22:01 |
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| armax | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 22:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 6 22:01:34 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 22:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 22:01 |
| amuller | hiho | 22:01 |
| ihrachys | o/ | 22:01 |
| dougwig | o/ | 22:01 |
| armax | kevinbenton, carl_baldwin, HenryG: ping | 22:02 |
| kevinbenton | o/ | 22:02 |
| carl_baldwin | o/ | 22:02 |
| armax | I guess this is ihrachys’ first meeting as driver member | 22:02 |
| armax | welcome! | 22:02 |
| ihrachys | armax: nope | 22:02 |
| armax | no? | 22:02 |
| armax | damn | 22:02 |
| ihrachys | but thanks :) | 22:02 |
| armax | so I guess hazing doesn’t apply | 22:02 |
| armax | my memory is not as sharp as it used to be | 22:03 |
| armax | effect of too much neutron radiations | 22:03 |
| armax | the agenda for today’s meeting won’t be (again) the convential one we’re used to | 22:03 |
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| dasm | o/ | 22:04 |
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| armax | I’d like to talk respectively of a) design summit schedule; b) ocata priorities | 22:04 |
| dasm | armax: even tho, if it's not first one for ihrachys, it's still pretty late back in Europe. so, i believe, it's still achievement | 22:04 |
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| armax | and there was something else but I can’t remember | 22:04 |
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| armax | as proof of the fact that I am becoming senile | 22:04 |
| johnsom | Was it a no-confidence vote? | 22:05 |
| johnsom | grin | 22:05 |
| ihrachys | AARP membership card on its way | 22:05 |
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| armax | oh yes | 22:06 |
| armax | I remember | 22:06 |
| armax | I was reading | 22:07 |
| armax | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-October/105213.html | 22:07 |
| armax | and it reminded me to nuke some folks | 22:07 |
| armax | so c) seek for blood | 22:07 |
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| armax | and d) kick off the stadium consolidation’s final stage | 22:08 |
| ihrachys | that's packed for 1h | 22:08 |
| amuller | a bit :) | 22:08 |
| armax | it’s fine | 22:09 |
| armax | ihrachys. amuller: time me | 22:09 |
| armax | #topic Design summit schedule | 22:09 |
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| armax | #link there’s an early draft avaiable at | 22:10 |
| armax | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/barcelona-2016/summit-schedule/global-search?t=Neutron%3A | 22:10 |
| johnsom | typo: chair: dougwig/johnsonm | 22:10 |
| armax | ack | 22:10 |
| armax | I noticed there’s a bug in cheddar | 22:11 |
| armax | in that swapping sessions doesn’t swap the content by the looks of it | 22:11 |
| armax | so bear with me while I chase this down | 22:11 |
| armax | in the meantime, I have reached out individually the people I expect to participate as chairs | 22:11 |
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| armax | thanks for those of you who have already replied | 22:12 |
| armax | what I would like from you is the link to the etherpad belonging to your session and a brief abstract so that I feel it up in cheddar | 22:12 |
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| kevinbenton | feel it up? | 22:13 |
| dougwig | 'feel it up'. oh my. | 22:13 |
| armax | in the process I’ll work with each of you to brainstorm and agree on the content overall | 22:13 |
| armax | fill | 22:13 |
| * armax has the mind somewhere else | 22:13 | |
| dougwig | we know where. | 22:13 |
| armax | I’d love to be done by next team meeting | 22:14 |
| armax | so that ihrachys can divulgate further | 22:14 |
| amuller | ack | 22:14 |
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| armax | divulge | 22:14 |
| ihrachys | tiny thing that HenryG raised today; expected etherpad prefix, is it still neutron-newton? | 22:14 |
| armax | again, my mind somewhere else | 22:15 |
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| armax | did I say that in the email? | 22:15 |
| armax | then I am an idiot | 22:15 |
| ihrachys | yeah | 22:15 |
| ihrachys | I mean, you said :) | 22:15 |
| armax | that’s clearly meant to be ocata-neutron | 22:15 |
| armax | my bad | 22:15 |
| ihrachys | ack | 22:15 |
| amuller | armax: please update the link for the testing session to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-neutron-testing | 22:15 |
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| armax | amuller: :) | 22:16 |
| amuller | I'll fill in the abstract tomorrow | 22:16 |
| armax | I just noticed that you played along : | 22:16 |
| armax | :) | 22:16 |
| armax | but johnsom didn't | 22:16 |
| armax | please double check time conflicts | 22:16 |
| johnsom | Yeah, well, we are the rebels | 22:17 |
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| amuller | armax: thanks for moving my session to Thu btw | 22:17 |
| armax | also when you go through your etherpad | 22:17 |
| dougwig | i edited the email to ocata before i forwarded it to johnsom. | 22:17 |
| armax | please cross/strike content in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-neutron-summit-ideas if it’s going to be included in your etherpad | 22:18 |
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| armax | dougwig: but you didn’t tell me, did you? | 22:18 |
| armax | wanted to make me look like a fool, uh? | 22:18 |
| armax | amuller: no problemo | 22:18 |
| dougwig | armax: someone had already brought it up in a reply. | 22:18 |
| armax | they did? | 22:18 |
| armax | oh well, my legacy is casted | 22:19 |
| armax | I screwed up my last design summit organization | 22:19 |
| armax | everything is ruined | 22:19 |
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| armax | bear in mind that this cycle we’ll start off our summit with a nova/neutron session | 22:19 |
| dougwig | i don't see it now. maybe i imagined it. | 22:19 |
| armax | the time is immutable so please don’t ask to move it | 22:20 |
| armax | because that’s the only slot we don’t conflcit with the nova sessions | 22:20 |
| armax | but please do strive to join if you are a core or a driver memeber | 22:20 |
| armax | so if you have a talk, well…figure out how to split yourself or something equivalent | 22:20 |
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| armax | besides, we’ll most likely have gluon folks joining the room and dougwig would be pleased to hear that at least some controversy will come up | 22:22 |
| armax | amotoki: I have not heard from you | 22:22 |
| dougwig | yes, this summit looks too tame. | 22:22 |
| armax | dougwig: hang in there, you won’t be disappointed | 22:22 |
| ihrachys | dougwig: ack. I will try to fill in my session with scary shit. | 22:22 |
| ihrachys | for your amuzement | 22:22 |
| amotoki | armax: I will be at the summit. I took PTO and offline these two days. | 22:22 |
| armax | ok, anything anyone wants to raise? | 22:22 |
| dougwig | container NFV chained ports | 22:22 |
| armax | amotoki: ok, thanks | 22:23 |
| amuller | throw in some flavors in there and it's golden | 22:23 |
| armax | if not, I’ll move on to prove to amuller and ihrachys that I can complete the agenda on time | 22:23 |
| dougwig | amuller: that's not implied? | 22:23 |
| carl_baldwin | armax: I owe you a follow up. I'll send email today. | 22:23 |
| armax | and I’ll even through some minutes to spare | 22:23 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: thanks | 22:23 |
| armax | next topic coming uo | 22:23 |
| armax | up | 22:23 |
| armax | #topic Ocata priorities | 22:23 |
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| armax | we all know that setting priorities in open source and openstack development is hard and virtually impossible | 22:24 |
| kevinbenton | so next topic then? | 22:24 |
| kevinbenton | :D | 22:24 |
| armax | wait | 22:24 |
| armax | :) | 22:24 |
| armax | now, if you are not familiar with the published Ocata schedule | 22:25 |
| armax | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 22:25 |
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| armax | you can see that feature freeze is the week of Jan 24 | 22:25 |
| armax | this means that between now, the pre summit rush, the post summit cool off, thanksgiving and christmas | 22:26 |
| kevinbenton | we get 1 feature? | 22:26 |
| armax | practically, time is tight | 22:26 |
| dougwig | that's barely enough time to change my socks. | 22:26 |
| amuller | I assume people will be finishing up unfinished work from Newton | 22:26 |
| amotoki | only 12 weeks after the summit including them :p | 22:26 |
| armax | amuller: in a nutshell, yes | 22:26 |
| armax | we need not only close in on the newton backlog | 22:27 |
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| armax | but also fix all the bugs that kevinbenton has introduced and will introduce when finishing push notifications | 22:27 |
| armax | included ihrachys’ and carl_baldwin’s | 22:27 |
| carl_baldwin | My bugs? | 22:27 |
| carl_baldwin | Kevin was going to fix those, I thought. :) | 22:28 |
| armax | carl_baldwin: that’s between you too :) | 22:28 |
| amuller | armax: my team will primarily focus on finishing up Newton work, and perhaps starting spec/design work throughout the cycle targeting P | 22:28 |
| armax | plus, there’s the usual testing and CI side of the house to improve | 22:28 |
| amuller | that's the high level plan... | 22:29 |
| armax | one thing to consider is that the Nova team is committed to devote some time and effort into the Nova/Neutron integration layer | 22:29 |
| sbelous | os-vif? | 22:29 |
| armax | it would be nice to align with them | 22:30 |
| armax | sbelous related but not only | 22:30 |
| armax | so I am thinking that we are pretty much in feature freeze already and we’ll squeeze only a few high visibility targets between now and Ocata | 22:30 |
| armax | to be worked out once we got hold of the outstanding RFE list/open specs lists we got | 22:31 |
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| ihrachys | armax: do we have a list of targets to squeeze, or it's anything incomplete from newton? | 22:31 |
| armax | I don’t think it’s a bold move circumstances considered | 22:31 |
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| amuller | IMO it's a good idea to continue spec/design work throughout O for stuff we'd like to see in P | 22:32 |
| amuller | while we continue work items from N | 22:32 |
| armax | ihrachys: we’ll have to scan the newton backlog to assess what can/must be pruned | 22:32 |
| armax | and if there’s anything new that can be added | 22:32 |
| dougwig | it could be "bugs only" and we'd still have too much content. | 22:32 |
| armax | amuller: even spec review is time consuming | 22:32 |
| amuller | certainly is | 22:32 |
| ihrachys | that's a reasonable move; even with alternative schedule, having a stabilization cycle once in a while is good. | 22:32 |
| armax | and I personally think that if I can devote time to code review of stuff we already agreed on | 22:33 |
| armax | I’d rather do that | 22:33 |
| armax | but it’s a judgement call | 22:33 |
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| amotoki | I agree this cycle focuses on bug and high priority features. | 22:33 |
| armax | ok, anything anyone wants to bring up? | 22:34 |
| armax | we’ll talk in more detail about this during the backlog session | 22:34 |
| armax | at the summit | 22:34 |
| carl_baldwin | Seems wise to me. There has been so going on lately. Keeping some focus on stabilizing it a bit will be good. | 22:34 |
| armax | but w’ll do some work between now and then of course | 22:35 |
| armax | ok next topic coming up | 22:35 |
| armax | #topic membership cleanup | 22:36 |
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| armax | in neutron we have two key teams | 22:36 |
| armax | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/150,members drivers | 22:36 |
| armax | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/38,members cores | 22:37 |
| armax | while the former is tasked with reviewing RFEs and specs and bikeshed once a week | 22:37 |
| dougwig | i don't think the time i've been putting in is up to snuff, so i'm stepping down from the drivers team. | 22:37 |
| armax | the latter is tasked with reviewing the code that lands into our trees | 22:37 |
| armax | dougwig: ok, let me finish first :) | 22:38 |
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| johnsom | I think your first link was wrong, isn't it this one? | 22:39 |
| armax | what I wanted to add is that I personally think that is reasonable to expect membership to continue if the individual shows some regularity in fullfilling their duties | 22:39 |
| johnsom | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/464,members | 22:39 |
| armax | johnsom: yes | 22:39 |
| carl_baldwin | ^ That looks better | 22:39 |
| armax | johnsom: thanks | 22:39 |
| armax | :’( | 22:39 |
| armax | I am failing left and right | 22:39 |
| armax | anyhoo | 22:40 |
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| armax | all I am trying to say is that someone belongs to that list and feels like he/she cannot keep up with the project flow nearly on a daily basis, then that person should probably consider stepping down | 22:42 |
| dougwig | !! | 22:42 |
| openstack | dougwig: Error: "!" is not a valid command. | 22:43 |
| armax | to either list, I mean | 22:43 |
| dougwig | !! | 22:43 |
| armax | now dougwig, your turn :) | 22:43 |
| armax | it sucks to see you step down | 22:43 |
| armax | nonetheless I appreciate the time and energy you spent so far | 22:43 |
| dougwig | if my commitments change, we'll see what happens. else maybe i'll be in a corner with salv and a beer. | 22:44 |
| * ihrachys thanks dougwig for his service | 22:44 | |
| armax | the team always welcome people who love to bikeshed | 22:45 |
| amuller | dougwig++ | 22:45 |
| armax | erm, work hard | 22:45 |
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| armax | anything anyone wants to add? | 22:46 |
| armax | if not, racing towards the next and final topic | 22:46 |
| armax | #topic stadium consolidation - final stage | 22:46 |
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| armax | nearly all of you are aware that I have been made this my crusade | 22:47 |
| armax | during last cycle I did not quite finish all I wanted to do, but I feel like I am pretty close | 22:48 |
| * johnsom feels the pull on the ropes tied to his arms.... | 22:48 | |
| armax | in the coming week, I’ll be sending out an update | 22:49 |
| armax | in spec | 22:49 |
| armax | #link http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/neutron-specs/specs/newton/neutron-stadium.html | 22:49 |
| ihrachys | armax: you mean a patch to the spec? | 22:49 |
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| armax | it’s stated that the first milestone of a cycle is the one where project membership is assessed | 22:49 |
| armax | ihrachys: no, it’s probably gonna be in a form of email | 22:50 |
| armax | I will need to tweak the devref | 22:50 |
| armax | once I finalize patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/353131/ | 22:50 |
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| armax | I’ll prepare a template where we can objectively and transparently assess how projects meet the criteria | 22:52 |
| armax | and we’ll judge during the forthcoming drivers meeting who gets to stay in or who gets to go out | 22:52 |
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| armax | for this cycle, we don’t accept inclusions | 22:53 |
| armax | should there be any | 22:53 |
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| armax | we’ll wait until Pike for that | 22:53 |
| armax | anything anyone else would like to add? | 22:53 |
| armax | if not, I finished with 7 minutes to spare | 22:53 |
| armax | ihrachys, amuller: how about that? | 22:54 |
| ihrachys | like a boss | 22:54 |
| armax | 6 now | 22:54 |
| amuller | Most impressive. | 22:54 |
| armax | ok | 22:55 |
| armax | folks | 22:55 |
| carl_baldwin | Nice work. | 22:55 |
| armax | thanks for joining | 22:55 |
| armax | Today is the day Newton is officially out | 22:55 |
| armax | be proud (or not) of what you achieved | 22:56 |
| armax | I certainly am | 22:56 |
| dougwig | so now we can merge all those rebase breakers? | 22:56 |
| armax | …somewhat :) | 22:56 |
| * ihrachys slowly claps | 22:56 | |
| armax | bye | 22:56 |
| armax | #endmeeting | 22:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 6 22:56:30 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-10-06-22.01.html | 22:56 |
| sbelous | neutrinos, can I ask you to take a look at this spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348947/ and help with review? | 22:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-10-06-22.01.txt | 22:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-10-06-22.01.log.html | 22:56 |
| armax | dougwig: have at it | 22:56 |
| sbelous | I really want to accelerate the process of implementing it :) | 22:56 |
| armax | dougwig: gently | 22:56 |
| amuller | tata | 22:56 |
| sbelous | :( | 22:56 |
| blogan | adios | 22:56 |
| amotoki | thanks | 22:57 |
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