Wednesday, 2016-10-05

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ianychoidoc team meeting has canceled..)00:42
ianychoi?00:42
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loquacitiesoh my00:43
loquacitiesno, i just forgot about it00:43
loquacitiesdo we have a quorum here?00:43
ianychoiOr tomorrow? I am confused just.. :)00:44
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loquacitiesno, it should be today00:44
loquacitiesi suspect we're all busy with release tasks00:44
ianychoiAha I see yep testing and release..00:45
loquacitiesyep :)00:45
loquacitieswell, anyway, i'm here if anyone has questions i guess00:46
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ianychoiafter doc will be released soon, I need to create stable versions in translation infrastructure. So I wanted to know progress00:51
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ianychoiloquacities, I have a question. So for docs, do I need to aware stable branch creation on docs for I18n around R+0 : https://releases.openstack.org/newton/schedule.html ? For Horizon and other projects, I18n team aware between R-5 and R-301:08
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loquacitiesianychoi: that's a really good question01:09
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loquacitiesit's *probably* R-001:09
loquacitiesbut i think you should probably check with katomo and/or daisy01:09
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loquacitiesi'm not usually involved in the i18n release, so i'm not certain01:10
ianychoiYep from April to current period, there has been more documents translated :)01:10
loquacitiesyes, i noticed that in the release notes!01:10
loquacitieswell done :)01:10
ianychoiSo I would like to more take care on01:10
loquacitiesalso, i don't think i've said congrats on getting the PTL job yet either01:11
loquacitieswell done :)01:11
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ianychoiAlthough it is for Newton, It is the period in Ocata and I want to take care on that01:11
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ianychoiloquacities, thanks a lot and you too :)01:11
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loquacitiesthanks :)01:11
loquacitiesyes, ocata is going to be a really short cycle01:11
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ianychoiI have also seen in docs mailing list that you will be unable to attend to PTG..01:12
loquacitiesyes, that's true01:12
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loquacitiesi'll be in barcelona, though01:12
ianychoiI really want to discuss a bit more in Barcelona Design Summit, but I will only stay on Friday afternoon..01:12
ianychoiLet's try to meet :)01:13
loquacitiesdefinitely!01:13
loquacitiesi do usually try to drop in to an i18n session if i can01:13
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ianychoiYep I remember you kindly came to i18n session on Austin design summit01:14
loquacitiesi did!01:14
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ianychoiOkay.. :) currently my understanding is that I18n team needs to create stable version in translation infrastructure (Zanata), after doc team will create stable branches on openstack-manuals.01:15
ianychoiI am learning how to create versions in Zanata from Kato-san and Daisy01:16
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loquacitiesok01:17
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loquacitieswe'll publish newton on 6 october01:17
ianychoiI will keep on seeing docs mailing list and update news to you and docs team members01:17
loquacitiesbut won't branch for newton until after summit01:17
ianychoiwow good tomorrow!01:17
loquacitiesyes, busy couple of days ahead for us :)01:17
loquacitiesbut yes, we'll update progress on the docs mailing list01:18
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ianychoiI understand :) Thank you for your answers!01:19
loquacitiesno trouble01:19
loquacitieshappy to help :)01:19
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ianychoi:)01:20
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ramishra#startmeeting heat08:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct  5 08:00:30 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ramishra. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.08:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.08:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'heat'08:00
ramishra#topic roll call08:00
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pas-hao/08:00
skraynevo/08:01
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prazumovskyhi!08:01
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therveHeya08:02
ramishra#topic adding items to agenda08:03
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ramishra#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282016-10-05_0800_UTC.2908:03
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stevebakermemory usage08:03
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ramishrastevebaker: added that one08:05
ramishraso we have just 2 topics08:05
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ramishra#topic heat summit sessions08:05
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ramishra#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-heat-sessions08:05
ramishrashould we wait for more time for any more proposals08:06
ramishraor finalize them08:06
ramishraI've updated the etherpad with what we had in that.08:06
ramishrastevebaker: any topics from you on the client stuff?08:06
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ramishratherve: I've added a specific session on large stacks to cater to the magnum team.08:08
therveramishra, +108:08
stevebakerramishra: could we finalise next week? I'm on leave until tomorrow08:08
therveWe'll talk tripleo as well presumably08:08
ramishrastevebaker: sure08:09
ramishraI've added a topic for validation improvements again, we can discuss about translation in that, if we want08:09
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thervePossibly, yeah. It may be worth another session though08:10
therveWe're missing one, too :)08:10
ramishrathough prazumovsky would not be around to participate.08:10
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therveIt still worth having the discussion08:11
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ramishrawe should start working on the validation improvements this cycle;)08:12
ramishratherve: yeah I'll add that, if there is nothing form stevebaker, else we can club it with validation stuff.08:12
therveOK08:13
ramishraok should we move on now?08:13
ramishra#topic memory usage08:14
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stevebakerI've been out of the loop for the past 10 days, but things are happening here https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/162667508:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1626675 in heat "Further memory usage issues with big stacks" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Zane Bitter (zaneb)08:15
ramishramany of us are working on it. mostly therve and zaneb. therve, probably therve you can provide an update?08:15
therveSure08:15
therveI think we spent a good chunk of time looking for a specific issue08:15
therveBut there doesn't seem to be one08:16
stevebakerI wonder if we could use __slots__ elsewhere, like Stack https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382068/08:16
therveMostly a bunch of things adding up08:16
therveslots may improve a bit, but it's minor08:16
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thervehttps://review.openstack.org/381588 is the latest that shaved about 10% for me08:16
thervehttps://review.openstack.org/380542 is a good one too08:16
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therveI'll check https://review.openstack.org/382038 after the meeting08:17
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ramishrazaneb has few patches too08:17
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therveshardy wanted to do a server-less tripleo deployment08:18
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therveThat would help testing a lot, as it takes about 30mins for me to check a patch08:18
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therveIf we don't have servers that could be much faster08:18
ramishrathat would be great.08:18
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therveWe need something that can fake a server, and signal data back08:18
stevebakertherve: a dedicated integration test against a fake nova driver methings08:19
stevebakermethinks08:20
thervestevebaker, That's not enough08:20
thervefake nova driver won't signal back08:20
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stevebakeryes, the integration test signals back08:20
therveRight, but I don't want integration test08:21
therveI want to use "openstack overcloud deploy"08:21
stevebakerah, and a standalone thing which signals08:22
therveYeah I don't really know yet08:23
therveSomething like TestResource but with the ability to signal data. Specified in a file maybe?08:24
stevebakeryeah, it could even be interactive08:24
therveThat could be a memory hit though08:24
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stevebakeri'll have a think08:24
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ramishraso, we don't yet know how the memory consumption suddenly increased(in newton) for Tripleo as reported in the bug, right?08:25
therveramishra, I think there is not *a* reason08:25
therveThere are plenty of small reasons :)08:26
therveOne being simply that tripleo does more things08:26
ramishratherve: all in newton:)08:26
therveramishra, One interesting test would be to check tripleo from early newton08:26
therveTo confirm that08:26
stevebakerits a bit tricky, heat and tripleo-heat-templates evolved in parallel08:27
therveI mean, old tht ought to work on heat master though08:27
ramishrayeah, zeneb was probably suggesting it might be the thts or some process consuming all memory after they increased it?08:27
therveUnless we have a regression08:27
therveyaql is definitely among the culprits08:28
therveThey had to increase its memory limit, but only to 100k AFAIU08:28
ramishrayeah, I've seen that discussion too.08:30
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ramishrayeah, we'll continue looking for improvements.08:32
ramishrashould we move on or anyone has any more to discuss?08:32
therveI'm good08:33
stevebakerI have nothing to add08:33
ramishra#topic open discussion08:33
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ramishrabtw, we got the stable:follows-policy patch merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379114/08:34
ramishraNow we have the tag for both heat and python-heatclient08:35
therveCool08:35
stevebaker+108:36
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ricolinso we will get +1 here?08:36
ricolinhttps://www.openstack.org/software/project-navigator/08:36
ramishraricolin: I assume so, when the newton one is available/08:36
therveIt is already there it seems08:37
ricolincool :)08:37
ramishrayep, anything else?08:39
stevebakerwe could probably have a crack at ops-sdk-support and asserts_support-rolling-upgrade in this cycle08:39
ramishrastevebaker: zaneb has suggested a summit session to discuss what we can do get those.08:40
ramishraI've added that one08:40
stevebaker+108:40
ramishraI think it's worth to discuss that08:40
ramishraok, anything else?08:42
ramishrathanks all for joining08:42
stevebaker\o08:42
ramishra#endmeeting heat08:42
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tonyb#startmeeting requirements12:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct  5 12:00:00 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is tonyb. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.12:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.12:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'requirements'12:00
tonyb#topic rollcall12:00
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tonybcoolsvap_: wont make it ... or may be 30mins late12:00
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dirko/12:01
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tonybI'd just like to point out "Meeting started Wed Oct  5 12:00:00 2016 UTC" can't really get more on time that that ;P12:02
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* tonyb doesn;t want to think about nanosecond timestamps;p12:02
prometheanfirehft :P12:02
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tonybLet's get started ....12:03
tonyb#topic Any controversies in the Queue?12:03
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tonyb2 minor once that I can think of12:03
dirkthe check-uc changes12:03
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dirkhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/382232/12:03
dirkany objections to making check-uc voting appreciated..12:04
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dirk(will fix AJ's comment)12:04
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tonybdirk: Oh right yeah fix the gate pipeline and I12:04
tonybll +1 it12:04
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tonybI'm all for not regressin this12:05
tonybthe xfail stuff *may* proove to be a pain but only doing it will tell us that ...12:05
dirktonyb: well, hopefully it remains empty12:05
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prometheanfireya12:05
tonybdirk: true.12:06
dirkit was sort of painful to get it to a green state as we broke it already two times in the last week or so12:06
dirktonyb: +1 it12:06
tonybWhen we merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381780/ we upset Yuriy Taraday12:06
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prometheanfireya, I'm in favor of it12:07
tonybDo people feel like we made the right call there?12:07
* dirk thinks yes in case that isn't obvious ;)12:07
tonybdirk: :)12:08
prometheanfiretonyb: if not, we can revert :P12:08
tonybprometheanfire: ;P12:08
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prometheanfireand the other one?12:09
tonybthe other one is really minor .... dirk which pymod2pkg change do you want?12:09
tonyb0.6.1 probably wont happen this week and that review will conflict if we merge the 0.6.0 review12:09
prometheanfirehttps://review.openstack.org/374432 ?12:10
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prometheanfiretonyb: is https://review.openstack.org/374713 good now?12:11
tonybprometheanfire: I feel liek the -1's have been addressed but those reviewers haven't had time to revisit12:12
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tonybprometheanfire: that one needs to be abandoned, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/374712/2 is good but needs tests befoer we merge it12:12
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prometheanfirek12:13
dirktonyb: we want 0.6.112:13
dirktonyb: but this has time12:13
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prometheanfireez test with grep :P12:13
* coolsvap sneaks in12:14
tonybprometheanfire: actually I'm wront the chnage you pointed at need to be included but not in it's current form clearly12:14
tonybprometheanfire: sure but mock would be better ;P12:14
tonybcoolsvap: o/12:14
prometheanfire:D12:14
tonybdirk: okay12:14
prometheanfireanything else?12:15
tonybhttps://review.openstack.org/381890 dnspython12:15
prometheanfireah, right12:15
tonybWe shoudl kee an eye on that one.12:15
tonybit'll be nearly impossible to revert once we take it so we need to have extra care there12:16
prometheanfireah12:16
tonybnotmyname: is questioning why the minimum bump which is reasonable12:16
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* tonyb waves and smiles at notmyname ;P12:16
prometheanfirelol12:17
tonybmoving on?12:17
tonyb#topic py27-with-upper-constraints nee py27-check-uc12:18
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tonybdirk: Thanks for jumping on that last week.  You've made great progress12:18
tonybdirk: how'd you would out it was the path length that was the problem?12:18
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tonybwe might come back to that when dirk is active again ....12:21
tonyb#topic PTG12:21
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dirktonyb: I asked on #infra, and somebody suggested that I should try the path locally that is used in jenkins as they found this issue already elsewhere12:21
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tonybdirk: Ahh ok12:21
tonyb#undo12:21
openstackRemoving item from minutes: <ircmeeting.items.Topic object at 0x7f66f52f8510>12:21
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tonybdirk: while that spins (they take a while to run) anythong you want to say about what's next ?12:22
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tonyb.... oh well12:23
tonyb#topic PTG12:23
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tonybSo we're planning the design summit ... and now we need to know about the PTG12:24
tonyb#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/requirements-pike-PTG_ideas12:24
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tonybincludes a snippet form the email I got about this12:24
tonybso the main question is do we wnat/need a space for the requirements team at the PTG in Feb?12:24
tonybwith a follow-up who's likely to be there?12:25
tonybnoting the travel is waaay out and could chnage12:25
tonybthe PTG will be for planning what we're going to do in pike12:25
prometheanfireI'll be in atl12:26
coolsvapits bit early to predict12:26
coolsvapif I will be there12:26
dirktonyb: I'M sort of undecided on this. I would like to go, but the week is just terrible for me for private reasons12:26
tonybprometheanfire: Are you going to be able to "requirements" or will you need to "openstack-ansible"?12:27
prometheanfireaat the moment, requirements12:27
tonybdirk: okay Thanks for that.12:27
tonybprometheanfire: cool12:27
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prometheanfireI can't guarantee anything, but my upstream osa work is minimal12:27
tonybprometheanfire: okay12:27
prometheanfirethough... by then maybe I can start adding gentoo support to osa12:27
prometheanfirehard to tell12:28
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tonybSo we have until the 16th to reply so thnk abotu it and fill in the etherpad12:28
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* tonyb looks at coolsvap and others ;P12:28
* dirk thinks we should do a countermeeting in europe :)12:28
prometheanfirelol12:29
tonybdirk: Well the PTG is s'posed to move but not next year :(12:29
prometheanfireif they could send me :P12:29
coolsvaptonyb: sure dirk :-D12:29
tonybdirk: and skipping the PTG for a project-speciifc event would be bad karma ;p12:29
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tonyb#topic Barcelona Design Summit12:30
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tonyb#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/requirements-ocata-summit_ideas12:30
tonybno real updates here.12:30
tonybwe need to flesh out what we'll talk about.12:30
tonybif it looks like we have too much for 1 session I can possibly get us another12:31
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tonybwhich might be good to have a full 40mins to talk about lower-constraints / divergent requirements12:31
tonybwith infra and other PTLs in the room12:31
coolsvapI think extra session would be helpful for topics other than lower constraints12:32
dirktonyb: do we have a work session as well?12:32
tonybcoolsvap: okay12:32
coolsvaplower-constraints need one session at least12:32
tonybdirk: no12:32
tonybdirk: we have a shared meetup with release and stable12:32
dirksome topics migh tbe better for a work session than a fishbowl12:32
dirkah, its a meetup12:32
dirksorry12:32
tonybdirk: I think you were at the one in Austin so you have a good idea of how that goes12:33
tonybdirk: Yeah we can possibly take some things to the meetup12:33
* coolsvap knows :)12:33
dirkin austin iirc I was in a work session, and that was really good12:33
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tonybdirk: :)12:34
tonybSo I'll see if I can get us an extra session.12:35
tonyb#topic Meeting time12:35
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tonybOriginally this was setup based on the timzones below12:35
tonyb#link http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?iso=20160506&p1=43&p2=240&p3=195&p4=166&p5=83&p6=281&p7=14112:35
tonybWith the DST shifts it's gettign too late for me (tonyb) and probably too early for those in CST (prometheanfire).  Lets sort out what timezones matter and pick a new time12:35
prometheanfire++12:35
tonybSo we have AEST (tonyb) IST (coolsvap), CST/CDT (prometheanfire)12:36
prometheanfirethough not sure how much wiggle room we have12:36
tonybdirk: what TZ are you in?12:36
dirkCEST12:36
toabctlCEST12:36
dirkCET  then shortly :)12:36
toabctlit's still summer! :)12:36
tonybprometheanfire: it's pretty terrible looking at http://everytimezone.com/12:36
tonybtoabctl: :) but you go off DST soon right?12:37
dirktonyb: so 11am UTC looks good, right?12:37
dirktonyb: last week in october12:37
tonybdirk: that'd be 5am for prometheanfire12:37
dirkan, so the timeanddate link from above is not correct12:37
prometheanfirehonestly, doing after midnight for me isn't the worst12:38
dirkI can do evening meetings as well if its not monday or tuesday12:38
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prometheanfiregiven how late I stay up12:38
tonybdirk: Of that that link is old ... it's from May which doesn't account for the current DST changes12:38
* toabctl wouldn't like to have meetings in the evening.12:39
dirkso I guess I'm confused.. you need the meeting an hour earlier or later ?12:39
dirkan our later ,right?12:39
coolsvapcan we try alternate timings for a change?12:39
tonybso 1200am CST would be 6am CEST?12:39
dirk7am12:40
tonybdirk: and when you switch that'd be ....12:40
dirktonyb: right.. 6am then12:40
dirkits not entirely terrible for me though12:41
tonybdirk: okay12:41
dirkI usually get up 6:3012:41
tonybokay well that's an option it's the 1500 for me and 1030 for coolsvap12:41
toabctltbh that would be too early for me12:42
tonybtoabctl: 7am?12:42
toabctlhm. I may be there, but I can't guarantee12:43
tonybokay I'll do a doodle poll or similar and we can vote on it12:43
dirk++12:43
dirk+112:43
toabctl+112:44
tonybbut we have more options that I thought12:44
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tonyb#topic Tasks from Etherpad12:44
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tonyb#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/requirements-tasks12:44
tonybI did a little curating on that list12:44
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tonybI don't think there is anything terribly surprising there ... other than the amoutn we've done in the last 6 months :)12:45
prometheanfire:D12:45
dirktonyb: is there a link / a discussion about docker-py somewhere?12:45
tonybI added some annotation like Ocata priority and Ocata Goal but they're not set in stone until after Barcelona12:45
tonybdirk: No just the comments in the review12:46
dirkoh I see, I didn't see that yet12:47
tonyb#topic Open Discussion12:48
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tonybanything to cover here?12:48
tonybwe have 12mins left12:48
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tonyb?12:50
dirkdid we have the next steps for dnspython cleared up?12:50
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dirkto be honest I'm a bit confused about the state of the test-DNMs12:50
tonybdirk: I think the next steps are to get the designate and swift PTLs to sign off on the direction (converged dnspython)12:51
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tonybdirk: the test/DNM chnages showed that for designate the tempest/unit tests work with 1.15.0 and swift py27 does not appear to regress with 1.15.012:52
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dirkok, thanks for the explanation12:52
tonybthey all fail jenkins becuaes I had to force the contents of requirements.txt in a way that doesn't quite gel12:53
dirkI wonder if we want to change g-r to >= 1.15 then as well12:53
tonybbut will once we take the offical path12:53
dirk.. in the same review12:53
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tonybThe problem with the g-r portion is that it's very hard to revert if e need to, but we can flip-flop on the u-c change a bit12:54
tonybso I think we should do it in 2 steps12:54
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dirkok.. I guess I should add that to the commit message12:55
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tonybdirk: That wouldn't hurt.12:56
prometheanfireya12:56
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dirkdone12:57
tonybI think that from swifts POV it's fine as the don't really run/test dnspython under py3.X and 1.14.0 is fine for what they use it for12:57
tonybit'll really be designate that is likely to find bugs in 1.15.0 and need to go backwards12:57
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tonybokay we're nearly outta time12:59
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tonybThanks everyone12:59
coolsvapThanks tonyb12:59
prometheanfirenn12:59
prometheanfireend on 59:59 :P12:59
tonyb#endmeeting12:59
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tonybboo ya!13:00
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vkramskikh#startmeeting javascript14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct  5 14:00:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is vkramskikh. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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vkramskikh#chair krotscheck14:00
openstackCurrent chairs: krotscheck vkramskikh14:00
vkramskikhhi everyone14:00
vkramskikhagenda is here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/javascript-meeting-2016-10-0514:00
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vkramskikhwho's here?14:01
msmolhello all14:01
cardeoishi14:01
vkramskikh#topic cardeois msmol vkramskikh Get contact info to yujunz14:01
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vkramskikhI've shared my contacts, though I'll also get a local sim card in barcelona14:01
cardeoisYeah I think I will too14:02
cardeoiswhere is your contact info?14:02
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msmolI might as well. I haven't given yujunz anything yet though, my bad14:02
vkramskikhI've sent it to yujunz. It's actually IRC and my email vkramskikh@mirantis.com14:02
cardeoisoh I see14:03
cardeoisYeah will do that this week with msmol so we don't forget14:03
msmolvkramskikh: what is yujunz contact info so that I can send my info?14:03
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vkramskikhmsmol: the email is here https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/javascript-meeting-2016-09-2114:03
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msmolthanks vkramskikh14:04
vkramskikh#topic krotscheck's items14:04
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vkramskikhkrotscheck has reported that he has no updates, so let's skip these topics and move them to the next metting14:05
vkramskikh#action krotscheck create release documentation tasks in storyboard14:05
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vkramskikh#action krotscheck Try to unblock nova14:05
vkramskikh#topic msmol add space-before-funcitno-parens rule to eslint-config-openstack14:05
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msmolhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/381929/14:05
msmoldoes anyone know what the docs gate is? didn't have much time to investigate what it is / why it's failing14:06
vkramskikhI don't14:06
msmoli was thinking betherly might know?14:06
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vkramskikh#action everyone to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381929/ and try to help with docs job failure14:07
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vkramskikh#topic vkramskikh Try to make fuel support keystone v3, report back14:08
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msmolhow's that going vkramskikh?14:08
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vkramskikhso I've spent some time to make Fuel to use v3 API and had success14:08
cardeois\o/14:08
msmol:D14:08
vkramskikhI figured out Fuel's master node is using non-default domains14:09
vkramskikhnamed "fuel"14:09
vkramskikhbut unfortunately our Keystone client wasn't able to specify custom domains names, only ids14:09
cardeoisoh ok so you have to specify the domain name then14:09
vkramskikhso first I decided to rewrite fuel code without switching to js-optnstack-lib first14:09
vkramskikhcurrently it's under review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379387/14:10
vkramskikhbut works fine14:10
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cardeoisgreat14:10
vkramskikhso to make Fuel use js-openstack-lib I see there are a few blockers14:10
vkramskikh1) fix the tests for js-openstack-lib to land the required changes: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381837/414:11
vkramskikhcardeois: I think you can W+1 this patch, there is already +2 from me14:11
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cardeoiswell the +2 is from me :)14:12
vkramskikhoh14:12
cardeoisbut I can w+1 if krotscheck is not there, but I'll try to poke him14:12
vkramskikhok I've put W+1 already :)14:12
cardeoisok cool problem solved14:12
msmolI can code-review +1 if that helps at all14:12
msmolnevermind14:12
vkramskikh2) support domain names in our keystone client https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381713/14:13
cardeoisYEah this one looks fine but I'd like to see some unit test if it's possible14:13
vkramskikhcardeois: I have no idea how to unit test this change, though I've added some functional tests which override project and domains so we can be sure that provided porject and domains are taken into account14:14
cardeoisAlright so I'll take a deeper look into it and will comment/code review +214:14
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vkramskikh#action cardeois to review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381713/14:15
vkramskikhthanks!14:15
vkramskikh3) Fuel needs an extra API call which we don't support yet: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381608/14:15
vkramskikhit's under development - I'm writing unit tests now14:15
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cardeoisWhat's is tokenInfo giving you?14:16
vkramskikh#action vkramskikh to implement tokenInfo() call14:16
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vkramskikhfrom this info Fuel needs roles (to see if admin role is here) and ID (to build URL to change user's password)14:17
vkramskikhso that's the next item14:17
cardeoisOh ok I see14:17
vkramskikh4) Implement password change in Keystone14:17
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vkramskikh#action vkramskikh to implement password change in Keystone14:17
vkramskikhand the last one14:18
cardeoisI suggest you create stories/task in here https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/project/84414:18
cardeoisso if anyone want to help could assign itself14:18
vkramskikhcardeois: thanks, will create14:18
vkramskikh5) figure out what's the difference between Keystone API v3.6 vs v3.714:18
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vkramskikhthe latest release of Fuel uses Mitaka which is v3.6, but we support only v3.714:19
vkramskikhwill try to figure it out in the nearest future14:19
bretonmy guess is that the difference is only in some returned parameters14:19
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vkramskikh#action vkramskikh to try to support Keystone v3.614:19
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cardeoishaha yeah and that might bring the subject about different version implementations. But I'd like to have this discussion later as it will complexify the lib. I'm not sure we're the lib is mature enough to handle it14:20
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vkramskikhI'll figure out the changes, probably it won't affect us much14:20
cardeoisYeah especially if it concerns a call we don't support yet14:21
vkramskikh#topic open discussion14:21
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vkramskikhwe don't have any topic on the agenda14:21
vkramskikhdoes anyone want to discuss anything?14:21
cardeoisSo on my side I'm starting to create patch for Openstack class14:21
cardeoisso we can use networkList in it14:22
cardeoisBTW I need W+1 on that once I rebase https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376997/14:22
cardeoisOn this future review, I did a lot of decisions to go forward14:22
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vkramskikhyeah, let's wait for merge of tests fix14:22
cardeoisbut I'm expecting to have feedback14:22
vkramskikhand rebase14:22
vkramskikhand I'll review it14:23
cardeoiscool14:23
cardeoisI have no other subject on my side14:23
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msmolnothing on my end either14:24
vkramskikhlet's close the meeting early then14:24
vkramskikh#endmeeting14:24
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cardeoisbye !14:25
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msmol'til next time14:25
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Zarastoryboard meeting time! anyone about?15:00
SotKo/15:00
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Zara#startmeeting storyboard15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct  5 15:00:52 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is Zara. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.15:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.15:00
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Zara#topic Announcements15:01
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ZaraNothing to announce that I'm aware of, ALTHOUGH15:01
ZaraI still need to mail the list about complex priorities15:01
ZaraI'll try to get to that this week...15:01
Zara#topic urgent items15:01
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ZaraNone that I'm aware of15:02
Zarathings are not on fire this week15:02
Zarawell done, everyone15:02
Zara#topic In-Progress Work15:02
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ZaraWe have a fair amount of patches awaiting review15:03
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Zaralet's see...15:03
* SotK will try to find time to provide review soon15:03
ZaraI think some of them are yours15:03
SotKI won't review those ones :)15:04
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Zarayeah, the API patch for teams permissions:15:04
Zara#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/368917/15:04
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ZaraI've +1'd it since the error code was a 500, not a 401, I can upgrade to +2 if that sounds fine15:04
SotKhmm, seems concerning15:05
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Zaraand this webclient patch depends on that patch, which is why I haven't looked at it yet15:05
Zara#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370287/15:05
SotKsince an invalid access token should be the same as being logged out15:05
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Zarayeah15:06
ZaraI wasn't concerned enough to block it since to the user it's still an error that stops them doing anything15:06
Zarabut it's a bit strange.15:06
Zaraand might hint that something else is strange15:06
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* SotK will look closely when he can15:06
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Zarayeah, I don't think there's a rush with it, am content to take time to do it properly15:07
ZaraI have various misc ui patches in review:15:08
Zara#link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:zara.zaimeche%2540codethink.co.uk+status:open15:08
Zara(all ignore the sandbox ones :P)15:08
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SotKjust abandon the sandbox ones :)15:08
Zaraaw, they cheer me up!15:08
Zarathe first 7 there, anyway.15:08
Zaraso not just UI, actually, also docs15:09
SotKor... https://review.openstack.org/#/q/owner:zara.zaimeche%2540codethink.co.uk+status:open+NOT+project:openstack-dev/sandbox15:09
Zarabah, putting me to shame by knowing how to use the thingy15:09
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Zara:P15:09
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ZaraI'll bang on some more doors for reviews for the oldest of those15:10
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Zaranext thing:15:10
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Zarabetherly's exciting endeavour!15:11
Zara#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/379595/15:11
Zarawhich I said I'd get to earlier this week and still have not, sorry15:11
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Zarathis switches us from less to sass15:12
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SotK\o/15:12
ZaraI gather less is harder to use and less well supported, and the reasons for choosing it originally no longer apply15:12
Zaraso I'm happy about the prospect of using tools that will attract more web developers to the project15:12
SotKthat matches my understanding, though I have no idea about anything to do with sass15:12
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ZaraI don't know more than 'you can do if/else in it'15:13
* Zara looks for blog post15:13
Zara#link https://css-tricks.com/sass-vs-less/15:13
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Zaraanyway, that's one that's worth the wider web development community here taking a look at; I'm debating mailing about it but I'd rather wait 'til betherly's feeling better.15:14
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Zarait came up while we were on the subject of making storyboard a nicer experience on mobiles15:15
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Zaraso my general understanding is that if/else means it's less hacky to adjust the display for different screen sizes15:15
Zarabut really, we'd be better off waiting for our expert :P15:16
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SotKindeed15:16
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* Zara wonders if she's missed anything15:17
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* Zara guesses not :)15:17
Zaranothing in agenda to discuss, so...15:18
Zara#topic open discussion15:18
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ZaraBarcelon will be swiftly upon us15:18
Zara*Barcelona15:18
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Zarawell, I can't spell, that's a good start.15:18
Zarawe should probably flesh out the etherpad a bit.15:19
* SotK should probably find this etherpad15:19
Zara#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-ocata-summit-planning15:19
Zarawell, really, we should have a task-tracking etherpad15:19
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* Zara will do it nearer the time15:20
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Zaraunless someone else gets to it first15:20
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ZaraI'd imagine we should have a general status report and some Q&A.15:21
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SotKthat seems sensible15:21
Zaranow is the time to flesh things out if there's any particular area we want to focus on15:21
Zara(since I intend to spend the week before summit singing 'barceloooona', which makes it not-the-best time for planning.)15:22
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* SotK doesn't have a well-formed opinion on it at the moment15:25
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Zaraneither do I; I fear I am procrastinating from forming one :)15:25
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Zaraanything else?15:28
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Zarasounds like we're good, then :)15:29
* SotK has nothing15:29
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Zarain that case, meeting ends innnnn15:29
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Zara oh no, it's only getting further from the end!15:29
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Zarameeting ends15:29
Zara:)15:29
SotKheh :)15:30
Zara#endmeeting15:30
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openstackMeeting ended Wed Oct  5 15:30:02 2016 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)15:30
SotKthanks Zara15:30
openstackMinutes:        http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-10-05-15.00.html15:30
openstackMinutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-10-05-15.00.txt15:30
openstackLog:            http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-10-05-15.00.log.html15:30
Zarayw :)15:30
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smcginnis#startmeeting Cinder16:00
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openstackMeeting started Wed Oct  5 16:00:02 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder'16:00
SwansonHi16:00
smcginnisHello all16:00
thingeeo/16:00
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smcginnishttps://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderMeetings16:00
xyang2hi16:00
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jgregorHello!16:00
smcginnisdulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind jbernard _alastor_ bluex patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino yuriy_n17 karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor baumann rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell stevemar watanabe.isao,tommylike.hu mdovgal16:00
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cFoutshi16:00
jgriffithhelllloooooooooo16:01
bswartz.o/16:01
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patrickeastHey16:01
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smcginnis#topic Summit Session Planning16:01
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smcginnis#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-cinder-designsummit-planning Planning etherpad16:01
tbarronhi16:01
smcginnisWe need to finalize our sessions for the summit.16:02
smcginnisWe have more slots than proposed topics at the moment.16:02
smcginnisIf we don't need all of those, I'd like to give those back ASAP.16:02
thingeesmcginnis: we wouldn't mind taking them back if needed :)16:02
smcginnisI think there were a couple other teams looking for space.16:02
smcginnisthingee: ;)16:02
smcginnisthingee: I'm sure that would make a few people happy.16:02
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e0nejgriffith: do you want to continue a discussing about standalone cinder (SDS)?16:02
thingeeless meeting time is cool with me. More time to enjoy spain16:03
flip214e0ne: +116:03
smcginnisThere you go!16:03
mtanino+116:03
jgriffithe0ne: sure16:03
hemnadoink16:03
smcginnisjgriffith: Should I put you down on there to lead that?16:03
e0neok. adding it to the etherpad16:03
jungleboyje0ne: I would be interested in that ... don't ask.16:03
smcginnisjungleboyj: :)16:03
jungleboyjsmcginnis: You have no idea.16:04
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_alastor_o/16:04
dulekDo we have any outstanding stuff from the mid-cycle?16:04
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e0neI would like to propose backup discussion again16:05
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hemnadulek, we still don't have a way to fix bugs in drivers for unsupported OS releases.16:05
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smcginnise0ne: Great. Want to add that to the etherpad as well?16:05
* diablo_rojo sneaks in the back of the room16:05
smcginnishemna: Got that on there.16:05
hemnaI think this is terrible.16:05
e0neI've got few specs under the review and we need to figure out what state of backup scaling is16:05
smcginnishemna: I'm going to send a ML announcement to try to get some vendors to that one.16:05
e0nesmcginnis: in progress16:05
hemnasmcginnis, ok thanks.16:05
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hemnaI'm super bummed I won't be there to advocate for this stuff.16:05
smcginnisWould like to get the input from those actually providing support for older releases.16:05
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smcginnishemna: Oh right, I keep forgetting that.16:06
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smcginnisWe also have the afternoon working session to go over smaller topics that inevitably come up.16:06
hemnaI could just mail someone a chewbacca stuffed animal and put him on the table in my place.16:06
smcginnis;)16:06
dulekI wonder if a fishbowl on gathering feedback about Cinder future wouldn't be beneficial.16:07
smcginnisI should find out...16:07
jungleboyj:-)  We will keep a chair by the camera for you hemna16:07
hemnajungleboyj, thanks16:07
dulekWe're doing that at the mid-cycles, but there's no operators mostly.16:07
smcginnis#startvote Will you be able to attend the Friday afternoon session? Yes, No16:07
openstackBegin voting on: Will you be able to attend the Friday afternoon session? Valid vote options are Yes, No.16:07
openstackVote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.16:07
duleks/there's/there are16:07
smcginnisInformal poll to get an idea..16:07
scottdaWe actually need to make sure we have a camera, since we usually count on hemna16:07
e0neyes16:07
dulek#vote Yes16:08
scottda#vote Yes16:08
patrickeast#vote Yes16:08
erlonhey16:08
smcginnisPlease use #vote with Yes or No so we can get an idea of how many people will be able to stick around Friday afternoon.16:08
xyang2#vote Yes16:08
diablo_rojo#vote yes16:08
e0ne#vote Yes16:08
smcginnis#vote Yes16:08
bswartz#vote no16:08
jungleboyj#vote yes16:08
jgriffith#vote yes16:08
diablo_rojoI will have a camera and the tripod16:08
smcginnisLooks good so far. I was afraid too many people had already booked their return flight for Friday evening.16:08
diablo_rojoscottda, ^16:08
scottdadiablo_rojo: Cool. Thanks.16:08
diablo_rojoDon't have a fancy speaker/microphone though16:08
jungleboyjdiablo_rojo: I think Sean has one.16:09
smcginnisdiablo_rojo: I might have one that kind of works.16:09
diablo_rojohemna, can you get me access to the youtube channel so I can stream?16:09
_alastor_#vote yes16:09
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smcginnisdiablo_rojo: I can probably add you to it.16:09
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erlon#vote  Yes16:09
hemnaI think smcginnis can do it16:09
smcginnisOK, anybody else going to the summit that needs to vote yet?16:09
smcginnis#endvote16:10
openstackVoted on "Will you be able to attend the Friday afternoon session?" Results are16:10
openstackYes (11): scottda, smcginnis, erlon, jungleboyj, jgriffith, _alastor_, diablo_rojo, e0ne, xyang2, patrickeast, dulek16:10
openstackNo (1): bswartz16:10
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smcginnisbswartz: Fine, be that way. :P16:10
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smcginnisCool, better turn out than I was afraid we would have.16:10
smcginnisOK, back to the actual session scheduling...16:10
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erlonsmcginnis: just confirming friday afternoon will be the happyhour isnt?16:10
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erlon:)16:10
smcginnis:)16:10
bswartzlol16:11
smcginnisWe need to schedule an informal cinder team gather too.16:11
smcginnisBut anyway..16:11
dulekHey, will there be any evening event besides marketplace mixer? ;>16:11
bswartzit's just that all the meetups are in the same timeslot and I kinda have to do the manila one16:11
smcginnisBack to here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-cinder-designsummit-planning16:11
smcginnisbswartz: Eh, they can handle it without you. :D16:11
thingeeinformal team gather, just pick any random tapas place. can't go wrong16:11
bswartzI still love you guys16:11
e0nedulek: I believe we'll have cinder&beer mettup, smcginnis won't we?16:11
smcginnise0ne: Definitely. We should do Tuesday or Wednesday night.16:12
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bswartzthingee: make sure that people know that tapas in spain are NOT the same as tapas in the USA16:12
smcginnisPlease take a look at the proposed schedule.16:12
smcginnisThis is just a strawman.16:13
* erlon goes to check the urban dictionary16:13
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e0nesmcginnis: not sure that ' Cinder backup improvements' is OK  for fishbowl, we can discuss it in a smaller room too16:13
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smcginnisThe last scheduled slot on Friday I put to talk about priorities and schedule. We could move that into working group time.16:14
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smcginnise0ne: Yeah, wasn't too sure about that. We could move that into that last Friday slot, then free up a fishbowl for either some other bigger topic or give it back.16:14
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e0nesmcginnis: +116:14
dulekCinder-Nova API shouldn't be a fishbowl?16:15
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dulekSo we can fit whole Nova team in the room.16:15
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smcginnisdulek: That one I think will be our internal discussion of John's patches and what we see from the Cinder perspective.16:15
dulekOh, okay, fine with me then.16:16
smcginnisdulek: Then on Friday morning Nova is going to host the actual Cinder and Nova joint session.16:16
smcginnisHopefully that is a big room.16:16
ildikovsmcginnis: +116:16
thingeebswartz: ya baby eels :)16:16
ildikovsmcginnis: we would need a bigger room for that16:16
smcginnisHah, out of context that's a weird statement thingee ;)16:16
thingeesmcginnis: re: tapas in spain are not the same as the US16:17
smcginnisthingee: Yeah, got it. Still funny. :]16:17
smcginnisAny other thoughts for topics? Or should we give back a fishbowl?16:18
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smcginnisSince O is short and mostly bugfix we should probably spend a little time thinking ahead to Pike. But not sure if that is worth a fishbowl.16:18
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jungleboyjPike will be our opportunity to Peak!16:19
dulekWe're speaking about future at the mid-cycles. Maybe such discussion can benefit from broader fishbowl session?16:19
scottdadulek: +116:19
dulekI mean - mid-cycles gather mostly developers.16:19
dulekSummit has broader attention.16:19
erlonwill that still exist?16:19
smcginniserlon: The PTG will.16:19
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* jungleboyj is going to miss our mid-cycles!16:20
* diablo_rojo agrees16:20
dulekjungleboyj: Hey, colocated mid-cycle in Sydney can't turn out bad. ;)16:21
smcginnisSo... am I hearing we want a fishbowl to be able to gather more than just our developer input on Pike feature planning?16:21
scottdamight want a mid-cycle, with PTGs in Feb and Sept16:21
erlonmay be the PTG will be a BIG mid-cicle16:21
dulekerlon: PTG will be more like BIG design summit16:21
scottdaBut PTG won't be mid-cycle, it's start-of-cycle16:21
smcginnisIn case folks aren't aware: http://www.openstack.org/ptg16:21
erlonscottda: hmmm, and the summit will be in the middle of the release?16:22
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bswartzyeah the timing of the midcycle will be close to or overlapping the actual conferences16:22
scottdaPike PTG => Q PTG is 8 months apart16:22
duleksmcginnis: Maybe we should vote on last fishbowl destiny? :)16:22
smcginnisGood diagram if you follow that link.16:22
bswartzthe PTG will be start/end of cycle16:22
* dulek tries to get responsibility off him.16:22
smcginnisdulek: ;)16:22
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bswartzscottda: I count 6.5 months not 816:23
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hemnaare folks even going to go to the summits ?16:23
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scottdabswartz: OH, you're right16:23
Swansonmath16:24
xyang2smcginnis: maybe we can have a mini mid-cycle at the Pike summit.  don't we have an extra day now without design sessions?16:24
jgriffithhemna: remains to be seen16:24
smcginnis#startvote What should we do with our last fishbowl? Planning, Return, Horde16:24
openstackBegin voting on: What should we do with our last fishbowl? Valid vote options are Planning, Return, Horde.16:24
hemnamaybe we should do midcycles during the summits, since they don't seem to be of much use to us anymore16:24
openstackVote using '#vote OPTION'. Only your last vote counts.16:24
smcginnisxyang2: Maybe16:24
jgriffithhemna: I'll more than likely be replaced by a marketing expert16:24
bswartzhemna: summit won't exist16:24
dulekWait, what do the options mean?16:24
diablo_rojohemna, I was thinking the same thing16:24
jgriffithbswartz: ok... "conference"16:24
erlonhemna: +116:24
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smcginnisPlanning - use it to plan Pike stuff. Return - give it back for someone else to use.16:25
jgriffithbswartz: hemna at least I'm assuming that's what hemna menat16:25
jgriffithmeant16:25
hemnajgriffith, that's what I was worried about and brought up to johnathan in Austin.  not many people cared.16:25
e0nehemna: good idea, but could be hard to get budget approved for it16:25
bswartzoh wait they are calling the conference a "summit" on that page -- how confusing16:25
smcginnisHorde - be selfish and hold on to it assuming we'll have something important come up.16:25
smcginnisMostly joking about the Horde option.16:25
diablo_rojohemna, We spoke up too late16:25
erlonjgriffith: if you will need to go to the MC somewhere else is the same to go along with the summit16:25
jungleboyj#vote Planning16:25
hemnahe looked at me like I was an alien, when I brought it up16:25
xyang2#vote Planning16:25
bswartzs/horde/hoard/16:25
scottda#vote Planning16:25
dulek#vote Planning16:26
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e0ne#vote Planning16:26
smcginnisbswartz: :)16:26
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smcginnis#vote Planning16:26
jgriffith#vote Return16:26
hemna#vote drink16:26
_alastor_#vote Planning16:26
openstackhemna: drink is not a valid option. Valid options are Planning, Return, Horde.16:26
hemnadamn16:26
e0ne:(16:26
smcginnis!!16:26
openstacksmcginnis: Error: "!" is not a valid command.16:26
hemnasheeeeit16:27
scottdaThat bot is a real kill-joy16:27
smcginnisDarn, still no table flip.16:27
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e0ne!16:27
bswartzcinder fishbowls are always "hordes" based on past experience16:27
diablo_rojo#vote planning16:27
hemna(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻16:27
smcginnishemnabot16:27
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erlonhemna: haha I love that!16:27
jgriffithLOL16:27
diablo_rojoThe bot is a teetotaler16:27
hemna:)16:27
erlon#vote planning16:27
smcginnisAnyone need a little more time?16:28
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smcginnis#endvote16:28
openstackVoted on "What should we do with our last fishbowl?" Results are16:28
openstackPlanning (9): scottda, smcginnis, erlon, jungleboyj, _alastor_, diablo_rojo, e0ne, xyang2, dulek16:28
openstackReturn (1): jgriffith16:28
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jgriffith(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻16:29
jgriffith[10:27:29]16:29
hemabot(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻16:29
hemabot[10:27:29](╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻16:29
smcginnis:)16:29
hemna:)16:29
e0nesmcginnis: let's move planning session to the last of fishbowl's16:29
jgriffithhaha.. didnt' go as smoothly as I'd planned16:29
smcginnisOK, we'll use it for planning.16:29
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smcginnise0ne: OK, and have the stand alone cinder discussion right before it I think.16:30
e0nesmcginnis: LGTM16:30
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jungleboyj(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻16:30
diablo_rojoThis has to be one of the best meeting logs ever16:31
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smcginnis┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)16:31
smcginnisLet's settle down now. :)16:31
thingeesmcginnis: ha was just about to do that16:31
jungleboyjThere are so many good ones for Cinder!16:31
jungleboyjsmcginnis: No!  (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻16:31
smcginnisOK, please take a look at the proposed schedule.16:31
smcginnisthingee: ;)16:31
thingee┻━┻ ︵ヽ(`Д´)ノ︵ ┻━┻16:31
smcginnisIf this looks OK, I will update the session info.16:31
smcginnisthingee: Oooo, nice!16:31
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thingeeso many tables16:32
jungleboyjthingee: That is awesome!16:32
diablo_rojothingee, got one for flipping a laptop? ;)16:32
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jungleboyjdiablo_rojo: Oooh ...16:32
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thingeestill think lenovo should cover it for anyone working in open source16:32
jgriffithsmcginnis: if we happen to save 10 minutes to talk about Attach changes that would be awesome16:33
jgriffithsmcginnis: if we can stop flipping tables that is :)16:33
diablo_rojothingee at least it makes a good story16:33
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smcginnisjgriffith: I was planning on the Thursday 9:50 session being all about that.16:33
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jungleboyjdiablo_rojo: ++16:33
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jgriffithsmcginnis: haha.. I meant here today :)16:33
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smcginnisjgriffith: Oh, absolutely.16:33
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diablo_rojothingee, Will you have one last round of contraband cinder logo stickers?16:34
smcginnis#topic Attach/detach API changes16:34
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ildikovjgriffith: +1 :)16:34
smcginnisjgriffith: Want to give an update?16:34
jgriffithso I'll try and make this short and open up a discussion16:34
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jgriffithI've been on and off working on our attach/detach flow16:34
hemna:) you can blame me.16:35
thingeediablo_rojo: nope16:35
jgriffithI have a version that basically just condenses initialize/attach and terminate/detach into two command:  create_attachment and remove_attachment16:35
thingeediablo_rojo: I mean, I guess I could print 'em16:35
jungleboyjthingee: Sadness.16:35
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jungleboyjNeed a bunch to hold on to for the future.16:35
jgriffithhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/327408/16:35
smcginnisjgriffith: Do you have links to the two... nevermind.16:35
thingeevintage. I don't even have a sticker16:36
smcginnis#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327408/16:36
jungleboyjthingee: Well, there you go,  You need to print more.16:36
jgriffithThere's also WIP of nova https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330285/16:36
jgriffithand cinderclient:  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327409/16:36
jgriffithso this is pretty close to working, some details I need to fix in unshelve and live-migration16:37
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smcginnisjgriffith: There was another patch for a slightly different approach, right?16:37
smcginnisjgriffith: Or should we just focus on this for now?16:37
jgriffithYes...16:37
jgriffithSo I started looking at something else as well that is more of a *modification* of how cinder works more than antyhing else16:38
jgriffithhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/382045/16:38
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smcginnis#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382045/16:38
jgriffitheach approach has pros/cons16:38
smcginnis#link  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/330285/ Nova changes16:38
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smcginnis#link  https://review.openstack.org/#/c/327409/ python-cinderclient changes16:39
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jgriffithV2 provides a little bit more flexibility and granularity, while also being basically the same flow that we have today16:39
jgriffiththe only thing it really does is clean up the implementation of the methods, and gets rid of some of the guesswork on parameters etc16:39
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jgriffithBOTH approaches tie in an attachment object that gets stored and is used as a handle for everything on the Nova side (or any caller)16:40
jgriffiththe reason for that is to get rid of some of the split brain issues we have currently and make multi-attach simpler16:40
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jgriffithI'm struggling a bit right now though... trying to determine what the best option might be16:41
e0ne /me needs more time to take a look on John's patches:(16:41
jgriffithMostly between the condensed flow and the reworked impl16:41
jgriffithWhat's interesting about the V2 approach... is that if you break it down and compare it to what we have:  http://paste.openstack.org/show/584483/16:42
ildikovand it's not only for multi-attach, but there are workarounds in live mogration and shelve offload in Nova that would be great to remove and use something more explicit16:42
jgriffithildikov: right, sorry... I've just been focusing mostly on keeping multi-attach in mind for this16:42
smcginnisjgriffith: the Nova team thought the reworked flow might have a benefit, right?16:43
jgriffithildikov: but yes, it does actually simplify  a number of other things16:43
ildikovjgriffith: big thanks for that!16:43
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jgriffithsmcginnis: I honestly can't say that I've had a strong response on that; but I can find out16:43
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jgriffithsmcginnis: Also, I haven't floated a nova version of the V2 stuff up to Nova yet to get feedback there either16:44
ildikovjgriffith: I just thought to mention that we chose this path for a more generic and hopefully simpler API interaction :)16:44
jgriffithildikov: yes, and that's an excellent point16:44
jgriffithildikov: also reminds me of another advantage of the first proposal :)16:44
jgriffithildikov: V1 is significantly more work up front, V2 is more of a baby step16:45
smcginnisI would be for the simpler interaction. Unless there is something critical needed for v2.16:45
jgriffithildikov: V1 IMHO definitely leads to more simplicity in the long run16:45
smcginnisjgriffith: So maybe we should keep v2 in our back pocket and just move forward pushing v1 as our preferred solution to this.16:46
jgriffithsmcginnis: ildikov the only thing that came up was a conern by johnthetubaguy about shared connections16:46
patrickeastjgriffith: i was a little concerned about that part, i was looking through the latest ones last night and was wondering how long the v2 one would stick around before we want to do something more simple and go the route of v1 anyway16:46
hemnajgriffith, I think since v1 seems to be a simpler approach in the long run, I'd say +1 to it.16:46
patrickeastwhich means supporting 3 different attach api's forever. .woo!16:46
jgriffithpatrickeast: yeah, that's fair and I def agree16:46
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smcginnisRight, we should get this right (as much as possible) and hopefully be done with it.16:46
dulekpatrickeast: Forever…?16:46
ildikovjgriffith: I would go for simplicity if we can, but it's a bit of a balancing act here that I can understand16:46
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scottdaYes, and v1 uses entirely new methods, which means less confusion to support and understand the changes.16:47
smcginnisscottda: +116:47
patrickeastdulek: mostly joking ;)16:47
hemnadulek, once an API is in place, it's practically in place forever.16:47
smcginnisscottda: That's actually a very good point. That would be a clean break and avoid some confusion.16:47
ildikovscottda: +116:47
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jgriffithok... I think most of the on the fly input here is confirming some things for me so that's great16:47
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dulekhemna: But this one is rather internal, so I think it's possible to find some exception to "forever".16:47
jgriffithI'll continue on the V1 path today16:47
dulekhemna: Almost forever maybe? ;)16:47
hemnajgriffith, +116:48
ildikovjgriffith: +116:48
jgriffithdulek: patrickeast hemna FWIW note in my V1 I'm deprecating the methods16:48
scottdajgriffith: Thanks for the work on this.16:48
jgriffithdulek: I plan to remove them once there's no n-1 delta between cinder/nova16:48
smcginnisWe only have to support Nove-2, so we would be able to get rid of it eventually.16:48
dulekjgriffith: This may be a little too soon.16:48
jgriffithI also plan to rewrite the initialize/attach and terminate/detach in V1 as follow up16:48
smcginnisjgriffith: Oh, is it n-1 or n-2?16:48
jgriffithdulek: right, I'm not removing them... just logging a warning that "it's going to happen some day"16:49
ildikovcan we say that there's a team agreement on V1 and document it or let's wait with decisions?16:49
dulekjgriffith: Suuure. :)16:49
dulekJust wanted to say that some people run very different combinations of Nova and Cinder versions.16:49
jgriffithsmcginnis: I thought it was n-1, but either way it'll work, you just delay longer :)16:49
jgriffithdulek: yeah, that's fair16:49
smcginnisildikov: Let's just proceed with v1 until we find a reason that we have to move to v2.16:49
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smcginnisjgriffith: yep16:49
jgriffithsmcginnis: ok, sounds great16:50
jgriffithThanks everyone!!16:50
ildikovsmcginnis: fair enough16:50
jgriffithI'll get some updates pushed today16:50
smcginnisDang, one item on the agenda and somehow we're 50 minutes in. :)16:50
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ildikovjgriffith: thanks for the work on this!16:50
smcginnisjgriffith: Thanks for working on all of that.16:50
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jgriffithyeah, np16:50
smcginnis#topic Open discussion16:50
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smcginnisAnything else to discuss?16:51
smcginnisOh, I have one thing.16:51
smcginnisI know quite a few people are travelling early for the summit.16:51
jungleboyjA rhetorical question.16:51
smcginnisShould we skip the meeting next week, or would it be good to still have it for last minute prep?16:51
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scottdaThere's 2 meetings before the summit, right?16:52
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smcginnisscottda: Oh right, I'm getting ahead of myself.16:52
smcginnisSo next week is definitely on.16:52
* jungleboyj was wondering16:52
smcginnisBut what about the week before?16:52
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smcginnisMaybe we can discuss next week once we're closer and have a better idea if we need to meet or not.16:53
Swansonthat would be this week16:53
jungleboyjSo, next week yes, probably not the following week.16:53
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erlonsmcginnis: may be if somone adds something to the agenda?16:53
erlonsmcginnis: otherwise we skip it16:53
smcginniserlon: Sure. We can wait and see how it goes. If nothing proposed to discuss I will send out a notice to cancel.16:53
smcginnisOK, anything else for this week?16:53
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jungleboyjNo!  (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻16:54
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smcginnisAlrighty then. Thanks everyone!16:55
erlonhahaha16:55
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* jungleboyj could resist getting the last table in.16:55
smcginnis#endmeeting16:55
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hemna:)16:55
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jlvillal#startmeeting ironic_qa17:03
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct  5 17:03:37 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is jlvillal. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.17:03
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jlvillalSo sorry for being late!!!17:03
watanabeisaohello.17:04
rpiosoo/17:04
jlvillalAs always the agenda is at: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Ironic-QA17:04
jlvillal#topic Announcements17:04
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jlvillal#info Grenade job has been fixed. Thanks vsaienk0!17:05
jlvillalAnyone have any other announcements?17:05
mjtureko/17:05
jlvillalOkay moving on then.17:05
jlvillal#topic Multi-node testing17:06
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jlvillal#info Current status documented here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ironic-newton-grenade-whiteboard17:06
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jlvillal#info Patches are landing. Slower than desired but they are landing.17:07
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jlvillal#info multi-node job seems to have stopped working. Not sure if it is due to the subnet pool change.17:07
jlvillalThat is all I have17:07
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jlvillalOkay moving on.17:08
jlvillal#topic 3rd Party CI with krtaylor17:08
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jlvillalkrtaylor does not appear to be here.17:08
jlvillalNot sure if sambetts or someone else has updates.17:09
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jlvillalI'll give it a minute and then move on17:09
jlvillalOkay moving on17:10
jlvillal#topic Opens17:10
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jlvillalIf anyone has anything, please speak up :)17:10
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jlvillalOkay, looks like we are done.17:11
watanabeisaojlvillal, do we have any 3rd party ci check around the newton release?17:11
jlvillalwatanabeisao: I'm not sure I understand the question?17:12
watanabeisaojlvillal, sorry for late question.:)17:12
jlvillalWe have some 3rd Party CI.17:12
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watanabeisaojlvillal, I saw there was a topic about how to check if a 3rd party ci works well, in the last last meeting.17:13
rajiniro/17:13
jlvillalwatanabeisao: I'm not sure. This would be a good question for krtaylor.17:13
watanabeisaojlvillal, yes.17:13
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jlvillalwatanabeisao: He isn't online right now. But usually he is on #openstack-ironic17:14
watanabeisaojlvillal, btw I just want to inform this: http://stackalytics.com/report/ci/ironic/717:14
jlvillalwatanabeisao: Thanks.17:15
jlvillalAnything else?17:15
rajinirCan someone push to merge this?17:15
rajinirhttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/378063/17:15
rajinirThirdparty CI's are blocked17:15
rajinirSeveral are blocked17:15
jlvillalrajinir: I would think sdague or dtroyer_zz would be good people to ask about that.17:16
rajinirok, thanks, will ping them17:16
jlvillalrajinir: Or write an email to the openstack-dev email list talking about the issue.17:16
jlvillalrajinir: If you do that then put [devstack] in the subject.17:17
jlvillalrajinir: Good luck.17:17
jlvillalAnything else?17:17
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jlvillalrajinir: I'm not sure which IRC channel is for devstack conversations.  Maybe #openstack-qa??? or #openstack-dev???17:18
rajinirok17:18
jlvillalOkay. I think we are done.17:18
jlvillalThanks everyone!17:18
jlvillal#endmeeting17:18
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watanabeisao8 minutes, so soon.17:19
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bh526r#startmeeting gluon18:04
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct  5 18:04:48 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bh526r. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:04
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.18:04
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bh526rHi guys, sorry I am late. I just finished another meeting18:05
krenczewskiHi18:05
tomhambletonHi Bin18:05
bh526rHi Kamil18:05
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Jeffreyc42Hi Guys - Jeff Here18:05
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bh526rHi Tom18:05
bh526rHi Jeff18:05
tomhambletonHi Jeff18:06
jinliHi everyone18:06
bh526rHi Jin18:06
bh526r#topic Roll Call and Introduction18:06
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bh526r#info Bin Hu18:06
Jeffreyc42#info Jeff Collins18:06
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bh526rplease info your name18:06
bob____#info Robert18:06
krenczewski#info Kamil Renczewski18:06
jinli#info JinLi18:06
tomhambleton#info Tom Hambleton18:07
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bh526r#topic Admin Update18:07
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bh526r#info Gluon Work Session in Barcelona: Friday, October 28, 9:50am-10:30am (up to 11:00am).18:08
bh526r#info the Room is 12218:08
bh526r#info Room number is subject to last-minute change, but 122 for now18:08
kamal___#info Kamal Hussain18:09
Jeffreyc42ok18:09
bh526r#info Many thanks to Robert for working on flyer. I will have further look, and discussion before it is finalized18:09
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Jeffreyc42yes thanks Robert18:10
Jeffreyc42can we discuss that flyer real quick?18:10
Jeffreyc42or wait a little bit?18:10
bh526rwait a little bit?18:10
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bh526r#topic Session Topic in Nova and Neutron sessions18:11
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Jeffreyc42till we get out of the "Admin Update" section and into the Ageda18:11
Jeffreyc42k18:11
bh526r#info Neutron posted an Etherpad to collect session topics in Barcelona18:11
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bh526r#info https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-neutron-summit-ideas18:12
Jeffreyc42I guess we want to get on that agenda, right?18:12
bh526r#info Ian posted one topic "Nova/Neutron interactions during binding"18:12
Jeffreyc42ah ok18:13
Jeffreyc42I was searching on Gluon :)18:13
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bh526r#info Tom and I posted another topic "Neutron data model extension"18:13
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bh526rThe idea is to divide our needs into smallers pieces of work that are needed in Neutron18:14
Jeffreyc42ok18:14
Jeffreyc42Is there a Nova planning meeting as well?18:14
bh526rWe try to use soft tones to make more friends18:15
Jeffreyc42:)18:15
bh526r#info There is a Nova Etherpad too: Nova Session Etherpad18:16
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bh526r#info https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-summit-ideas18:16
bh526r#info I proposed "Gluon introduction and socialization"18:16
Jeffreyc42perfect18:17
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Jeffreyc42they asked questions to the topic in the ether18:17
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bh526rThat's right "(mriedem): What is the goal of a session on gluon at the summit? Just introducing it and getting feedback? Because some of that has already happened in the mailing list."18:17
bh526rBasically this topic is not welcome18:18
Jeffreyc42I'll take the action to address it.18:18
mriedemi didn't say the topic wasn't welcome18:18
mriedemhi i'm here btw18:18
mriedembut we have time constraints and want to have productive sessions18:19
bh526rI see, thank you Matt.18:19
mriedemso is it introduction and feedback?18:19
mriedemor other?18:19
bob____Like to know the date/time of the sessions. I would like to prioritize on those that are Gluon "related":-)18:20
bh526rTry to help each other to understand the need, and discuss the best solution to address our use case / need18:20
mriedem5:00-5:40 on thursday18:20
bh526rWe are open to any solution, as long as the solution can solve the need in our use case18:21
bh526rDoes it make sense, Matt?18:21
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bob____And need an idea if a full access ticket is needed for Gluon related sessions18:21
mriedembh526r: yes18:21
bh526rGreat, thank you Matt18:22
mriedembh526r: but be aware we aren't having a full session devoted to gluon18:22
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bh526rOk. During the 40 minutes slot, how many minutes will we have?18:22
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mriedemnot sure, it will depend on what else is on the agenda18:22
mriedemwill know once we get closer18:23
mriedemwe'll also be talking about nova-network removal plans18:23
dansmithbh526r: it'll depend on the outcome of the neutron session the day before, as that session is mostly followup from that18:23
mriedemwhich will take time18:23
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bh526rWe really want to get feedback from your team, i.e. a solution we can agree on so that we can continue to develop based on an agreed-upon solution18:24
mriedemyes there is a nova/neutron session at 5 on wed18:24
ildikovcould the Friday afternoon contributors' meet up work too, if there are too many topics for Thursday and you don't get to a consensus?18:24
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bh526rShould we also attend this Nova/Neutron Session at 5pm on Wednesday?18:25
mriedembh526r: we won't be talking about gluon on wed18:25
dansmithildikov: potentially, but lots of people are flying out that afternoon/evening, so it's hard to say18:25
mriedemildikov: things may spill into friday18:25
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mriedembut yeah lots of people won't be there friday18:25
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bh526rSo let us plan (1) Attend joint Nova/Neutron session at 5pm Wednesday, and the topics/use cases can be touched as well18:26
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ildikovdansmith: mriedem: I see, tnx for the update, then let's aim for covering this on Thursday and maybe try with Friday early afternoon or smth like if really needed18:26
mriedembh526r: thursday18:26
mriedembh526r: you can show up to both sessions if yo uwant18:27
mriedembut don't expect to talk about gluon on wed18:27
bh526rOk, 5:00-5:40pm Thursday for Gluon discussion18:27
bh526rand try with Friday afternoon or something like that if needed.18:28
bh526rThank you Dan for suggestion18:28
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bh526rThank you Ildiko18:28
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bh526r#info All are welcome to attend joint Nova/Neutron session at 5pm Wednesday, but Gluon is not discussed there18:29
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bh526r#info Gluon will be discussed 5:00-5:40pm Thursday18:29
bh526r#info And try with Friday afternoon or something like that if needed.18:30
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bh526rThank you Matt, Dan and Ildiko18:30
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bh526r#topic Tracking Progress of Development18:31
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bh526rDid anyone get a chance to try the new blades?18:32
Jeffreyc42I'll do it right now...  I don't think anyone has yet18:32
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bh526rCool. Thank you Jeff18:33
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bh526rNiko is not here, so we don't know further progress of the database migration18:34
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bh526rJin, I owe you the review of test plan. I will give comments by the end of day today18:35
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jinliok18:35
bob____ bh526r: Jeffreyc42: I am getting access to a blade and will try it as well. Is the new code ok to try?18:35
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bh526rSure, try new code and find problem so that any issue can be fixed18:36
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bh526rIan and Georg are on vacation, so no update from them18:37
bh526r#info Jeff will try the access to new blade18:37
bh526r#info Robert will try new code with ONOS in new blade18:38
bh526r#info Bin will review and comment Jin's test plan18:38
bh526r#info Niko is not here. No update of further progress of database migration18:38
bh526r#info Ian is on vacation. No update on Devstack integration18:38
bh526r#info Georg is on vacation. No update on new information binding model18:39
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bh526rThat's all from my side. Anything else?18:42
tomhambletonWhen are we going to discuss the presentation for the brown bag?18:43
bh526rGood point.18:43
bh526rDo you want to share some idea now? Or start to draft the slides?18:43
bob____Question: Is POC demo in the Gluon session or somewhere separately?18:43
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Jeffreyc42I would say lets setup a hour to talk about it18:44
Jeffreyc42bob: it will be running in the booths18:44
Jeffreyc42we show it in the sessions as well though18:44
bh526rRobert: Gluon session is for discussing tasks, and finish some work if ant18:44
bob____And a time to discuss POC demo procedure as well?18:44
bh526rDemo will be done by individual participant whoever is interested18:45
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bh526rin their own booth18:45
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bh526rof course, if we have spare time in Gluon session, we can have a demo there too.18:45
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bob____Thx for clarifying.18:46
bh526rBut you have a good point. Do you want to draft a demo procedure proposal based on your exploration of Gluon with ONOS?18:47
bh526rTom: do you want to draft the brown bag talk slides? or do you want me to draft it?18:47
bob____Sure18:47
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bh526rThen we can schedule an hour to discuss the slides as Jeff suggested18:48
tomhambletonI can start it18:49
bh526rGreat, thank you Tom18:49
Jeffreyc42sounds good tom18:49
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bh526rI will schedule one hour to discuss the slides. Do you want to do Friday or Monday?18:49
tomhambletonMonday18:50
Jeffreyc42Monday18:50
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bh526r:) Then Monday18:51
bh526rAny preferred time on Monday?18:51
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Jeffreyc42I'm open to any time18:52
tomhambletonMe too18:52
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bh526rLet's do at 9am PDT / 11am CDT / 6pm CET so that Niko can participate too18:54
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tomhambletonWorks for me18:55
bh526rI will send invite to all active participants, and feel free to join or disregard it18:55
Jeffreyc42ok18:55
jinliOk bin18:56
bh526rany other business?18:56
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Jeffreyc42I'm good, thanks18:57
bh526r#action Robert draft PoC demo procedure proposal based on his exploration of Gluon with ONOS18:57
bh526r#action Tom draft brown bag presentation slides deck18:57
bob____I am good18:57
bh526r#action Bin schedule a meeting to review slides at 9am PDT Monday18:57
bh526rI think I captured all actions18:57
bh526rThank you everyone, and talk to you later18:58
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bh526rmeeting adjourned18:58
tomhambletonBye all18:58
bh526rBye all18:58
bh526r#endmeeting18:58
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ekhugen#startmeeting wos_mentoring20:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct  5 20:00:26 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ekhugen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.20:00
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ekhugen#topic Speed Mentoring20:00
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ekhugenhi ildiko!20:01
ekhugenwho else is here for women of openstack mentoring?20:01
aimeeuHi!20:01
ekhugenHi Aimee20:01
ekhugenthat's great news that you'll be at Barcelona!20:02
ekhugencarol said she'd be about 10 minutes late20:02
aimeeuThanks - looking forward to helping20:02
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ekhugenI think we'll give it a few minutes for more people to come20:03
ekhugenbut fyi we have 6 mentors signed up so far for Speed Mentoring20:03
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ekhugenout of 15 people20:03
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ekhugenso I think that's a good start20:05
ekhugena few of the people did Speed Mentoring in Austin20:05
aimeeusounds good20:06
ekhugenI think we need to set a date for the mentor training20:06
ekhugendo you think if we did it the week before the summit that's too late?20:07
ekhugenlike maybe in this meeting timeslot?20:08
aimeeuI was just going to suggest that!20:08
ekhugengreat minds think alike!20:08
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aimeeu+120:08
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ekhugenhi kendall!20:09
diablo_rojoHello :)20:09
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ekhugensound good to you if we have the speed mentor training meeting on October 19 in this timeslot?20:09
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diablo_rojoYeah...I will already be in Spain so idk if I will be able to make it so my opinion is worth less in this instance.20:10
ekhugenwe could also use someone to contact our mentors signed up so far and a. let them know about training, b. get their info for their baseball cards and c. find out if they're technical or career oriented20:10
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* aimeeu hearing Jeopardy music...20:12
ekhugenyeah, I know, it's getting busy pre-summit20:12
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ekhugenmaybe I'll ask nicole from intel if she wants to do that20:13
aimeeuThanks - I'm just swamped right now20:13
ekhugenhopefully though we can all have a chance to look over the presentation for the mentor ed. meeting20:14
ekhugenhttps://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1lkt5NAhhFnGgRFuOCoiliJLJDxo1tAWle0dkYhvxnm8/edit?usp=sharing20:14
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ekhugenI don't think it needs super amounts of updates20:14
ekhugenHi Carol!20:15
CarolBarrettHI Emily20:15
ekhugendo you know if Nicole from Intel was going to join today?20:15
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CarolBarrettI don't think so. Is there something you need?20:16
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ekhugenI was going to ask her if she wanted to be the one to contact the mentors signed up for Speed Mentoring20:16
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ekhugenshe had asked earlier about the baseball cards and such20:16
ekhugenso far we have 6 mentors signed up, which is a good start20:17
CarolBarrettThat's great!20:17
CarolBarrettI think she wants to help on the production of the baseball cards, but not necessarily be the point of contact20:17
ekhugenah okay20:17
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ekhugenwould you be interested then in reaching out to the mentors?  we thought we'd hold the mentor education session in this slot on October 1920:18
CarolBarrettIf you want/need her to do more, I think that would be OK too.20:18
CarolBarrettYes, I can reachout to the Mentor volunteers20:18
ekhugenokay, I'll send you the list of emails afterward, we need to know:  a. let them know about training, b. get their info for their baseball cards and c. find out if they're technical or career oriented20:19
CarolBarrettI'll check to see if I have the email from the Austin training session20:19
CarolBarrettOK20:19
CarolBarrettHow many mentors are we looking for in total?20:20
ekhugenI think we were hoping at most 2020:20
ekhugenright now we only have 15 total signups for speed mentoring20:20
ekhugenso I think the mentor signups are keeping pace well20:20
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CarolBarrettall good20:21
ekhugenand so does everyone have some time to look over the slides and make any updates? I'm making a few as we're talking https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1lkt5NAhhFnGgRFuOCoiliJLJDxo1tAWle0dkYhvxnm8/edit#slide=id.g110437b82a_0_020:22
CarolBarrettWhen do you want the email to go out to the mentors?20:22
ekhugenif we can send an initial email out this week, then we'll see next week if we pick up any more signups?20:23
ekhugenI can't monitor it as it goes this time, I just get updates periodically from claire, I hate to bug her every day if there's been anyone new20:23
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CarolBarrettOK - Will draft it after this meeting and send for review. Will plan to send out tomorrow20:25
CarolBarrettDo you want us to look at slides now?20:25
ekhugenawesome, thank you!20:25
ekhugenI think whenever people get a chance, just before the next meeting20:25
aimeeuThe slides looked good (other than the dates and Austin location of course)20:25
ekhugenthanks aimeeu20:26
ekhugencarol, did you want to be timekeeper again?20:26
CarolBarrettSure - that was fun20:26
ekhugenand would anyone else be interested in being emcee? (I'm fine with being emcee, but I'm also happy to share)20:26
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ekhugenI think we talked earlier about having two separate groups of helpers for career vs. technical20:28
CarolBarrettI think you've the job. :)20:28
ekhugenI guess so :-)20:28
CarolBarrettI think having 2 sets is good20:28
CarolBarrettThey need to help guide the mentors to their new tables20:28
ekhugenaimeeu, diablo_rojo since you were both interested in being helpers, do you want to pick your area?20:28
aimeeuum... what's left? Ushering in late arrivals?20:29
diablo_rojoYeah my question exactly20:29
ekhugenwe found last time that we need people floating among the tables when the switch happens20:29
ekhugenmaking sure that people know which table to go to next, and that they're wrapping up when they should be20:30
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aimeeuOk.  I can do that20:30
ekhugenso it would be good if we had one designated person for each group of tables (career and technical)20:30
CarolBarrettGetting the mentors transitioned quickly is important for keeping the session on track20:30
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aimeeuI can't remember Austin - did you blow a whistle?20:31
ekhugenI had a bell for Austin20:31
ekhugenI think people heard it, but still needed some extra guidance sometimes20:32
aimeeuok - I can take the career side20:32
diablo_rojoI can do some of the technical20:32
ekhugencool, thank you20:32
diablo_rojoI will go where needed :)20:32
* ekhugen thinks that aimee and kendall are both awesome helpers20:33
CarolBarrett+120:33
ildikov+120:33
ekhugenokay, so anything else with speed mentoring?20:34
ekhugenwe could probably advertise it more, within our companies and on social media20:34
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CarolBarrettIs this the baseball card template that we want to use this time?20:34
CarolBarretthttps://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxtM4AiszlEyeDJMdk9ubDN6THc/view?usp=sharing20:34
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ekhugenI think so, unless people have suggestions of how to change it?20:35
CarolBarrettI'll check with Nicole too20:36
ekhugenokay, thanks Carol!20:36
ekhugenanything else for speed mentoring?20:37
diablo_rojoekhugen, If you tweet it I will retweet :) Also I can ask if the foundation will tweet it too if they havent already20:37
ekhugencool, thanks diablo_rojo!20:37
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ekhugenI think we can skip the follow up survey, since Meganr was going to work on that20:38
ekhugenand anne gentle and danielle were going to work on the graduation plan wiki updates20:39
CarolBarrettLots going on!20:39
ekhugenso on to upstream training20:39
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ekhugen#topic upstream university20:39
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ildikovI don't have further numbers since last week, so my currently info is still 35 people in total20:40
ildikovwe're still updating the content20:40
ildikovekhugen: do you have sign ups for training helpers/mentors too?20:40
ekhugenildikov I don't see anyone who specified upstream training on their mentoring form20:40
ekhugenbut I wonder from some of the signups if people meant to20:41
spotzekhugen: what specifically do you need?20:41
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ekhugenspotz for upstream we were looking for people who were available both days (23/24) to lead small groups through the upstream curricula20:41
ekhugenI think ildikov, it's pretty simple stuff, right?20:42
ekhugenlike how to work in the community, etc?20:42
ildikovekhugen: I have people showed interest in helping out with the training. should I point everyone to the registration page?20:42
spotzYeah I won't be there until partway through the 24th20:43
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ekhugenyou could still sign up as a speed mentoring mentor though!20:43
ildikovspotz: we plan to form groups of students and mentors/helpers would be assigned to the groups to help them solving exercises, answering any questions they might have20:43
ekhugenspotz ^20:43
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spotzI could help but not until afternoon or 10/24 unfortunately20:44
ekhugenyou could point them to the registration page, or if you just want to keep track of them, that's okay too20:44
ildikovekhugen: also, when do you usually start to contact attendees?20:44
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ekhugenildikov in what way? related to mentoring?20:45
ildikovI have two people for now, so I can keep track of them20:45
ildikovwell, I would say in general20:46
ekhugenI mean, last time we were only involved with the upstream attendees who signed up for mentoring20:46
ildikovI wasn't involved in the organisation of the Austin training, so I don't really know whether you have any workflow you follow prior to the training20:46
ildikovah, ok20:47
ildikovwe have people interested in that now too20:47
ekhugenand they just got the usual "you've been matched" email, with a reminder that they should have their laptop set up for upstream20:47
ildikovhmm, ok, then I'll cook some text and contact people with some info and asking for confirmation that they can come20:48
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ekhugenI can send you a copy of what we sent out last time20:48
ildikovdo we want to match people now, I mean those who are interested or at the end of the training?20:49
ildikovthat would be great, thanks!20:49
ekhugenI thought when we talked last week we were going to wait until the end of training to send them the signup form20:49
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ildikovwhen did you do the matching last time?20:49
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ildikovekhugen: ok, I wasn't sure we agreed on that, sorry20:50
ekhugenwe did matching before last time, but then some people didn't show up to the training, that's why I thought we were waiting until after this time20:50
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ildikovyeap, that's all fine, I'm looking for guidance more on whether we're already late to send out mails to people in general or not :)20:51
ekhugenI don't think you're late in sending out emails, I think nearer is better for confirmations usually20:51
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ildikovok, cool, I hoped so too20:52
ekhugenanything else for upstream?20:52
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ildikovno20:52
ekhugenokay, last topic20:53
ekhugen#meeting at summit20:53
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ekhugen#topic meeting at summit20:53
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ekhugendid we want to get together for breakfast or lunch sometime during the summit?20:53
ekhugenas the mentoring team?20:53
CarolBarrettYes!20:53
diablo_rojoSure!20:53
aimeeuabsolutely!20:54
ekhugenI know during sessions is hard, and so is nighttime20:54
ekhugenis breakfast or lunch easier?20:54
aimeeubreakfast probably20:54
aimeeuI'm helping Amy with the lunch & learns20:54
CarolBarrettYea, before the chaos of the day kicks in20:54
aimeeuso breakfast Thursday or Friday?20:54
ildikov+1 on breakfast20:55
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ekhugenwould Thursday be better, is anyone leaving early?20:55
CarolBarrettI think Thursday is best for me - I have an all day book sprint on Friday20:55
diablo_rojoI dont leave till Saturday20:55
aimeeuThursday sounds good (I'm leaving on Sunday)20:55
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ekhugendiablo_rojo does Thursday work for you?20:56
diablo_rojoYeah that should be good20:56
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ekhugenokay, I haven't looked at what's around, but I understand the summit is right by a mall20:56
ekhugenso there should be restaurants that serve breakfast around20:57
CarolBarrettI've got a 9:50 presentation that morning, so meet at 8:30-ish...?20:57
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ekhugenthat works for me20:57
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ekhugenif anyone has any restaurant ideas, we can talk about it next week?20:58
aimeeuWhen do the Design sessions start? 9 am? Are you all going to be using the WOO group in the Group Me  app?20:58
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* aimeeu the official OpenStack Summit app keeps crashing20:58
ekhugenthey start at 920:58
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CarolBarrettaimee: unfortunately not a new problem.20:59
aimeeuso not a sit-down breakfast but more grab and gab?20:59
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ekhugenwe're almost out of time, so we'll have to talk more next week20:59
aimeeuor we can decide the week of the Summit20:59
CarolBarrettIf we want to do a sitdown we could meet at 8:0020:59
ekhugen+1 carol20:59
ekhugenokay thanks everyone!21:00
aimeeu+1 - coffee!21:00
ekhugen#endmeeting21:00
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notmynamewho's here for the swift team meeting?21:00
torgomatic21:00
dfg_hey21:00
mattoliverauo/21:00
jrichlihello21:00
kota_hi21:00
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nadeemhello21:00
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notmynamewelcome21:01
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notmynamea few less people this week than normal21:01
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tdasilvahi21:01
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dmoritahi21:01
ntatahello21:02
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notmynameoh, heh. here comes everyone else :-)21:02
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notmynameagenda for this week is at21:02
notmyname#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift21:02
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notmyname#topic TC election21:02
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notmyname#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift21:02
acoleshere21:02
notmynamethe tc election is going on now.21:03
notmynameplease read over the candidate statements and where candidates have been involved in the past21:03
notmynameplease vote. you should have a ballot in your email21:03
notmynamelots of candidates for 6 spots21:03
notmynameany questions about the election before we move on?21:04
mattoliverauyeah, alot of reading, but worth it me thinks21:04
kota_the link should be  https://governance.openstack.org/election/ ?21:04
notmynameoh yeah, soory21:04
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timburkeif you didn't receive a ballot but believe you should have, contact the election officials per http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-October/105002.html21:04
notmyname#link https://governance.openstack.org/election/21:04
notmynameok, if no other questions, let's move on21:05
notmyname#topic newton release21:05
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notmynametomorrow is the big day for the openstack newton release21:05
notmynameswift 2.10.0 will be in it21:05
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notmynameI didn't see anything come up since we tagged that which would necessitate another tag, so at this point, anything we find will be backports21:06
notmynamethank you, everyone, for your work on swift during the openstack newton cycle21:06
notmynameone last thing about this release... release notes and reno21:06
notmynamein order to get a link on the right page, we need another sphinx doc tree in our repo. I added it in https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381382/21:07
notmynamewhen that lands, it can be backported and then the URL will be created and I can update the release repo to include a link21:07
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notmynameany questions on the newton (or swift 2.10.0) release before we move on?21:08
notmynameok21:08
notmyname#topic summit topics21:08
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notmynamebarcelona is soon; please fill out the agenda etherpad21:09
notmyname#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata_swift_summit_topics21:09
notmynamethere's quite a few good things listed, but I know there's a lot more going on (and we have plenty of time). please add stuff ASAP -- this week if possible21:09
notmynameI will start setting the schedule next week, and it will be based on that etherpad21:09
notmynameso if you want to talk about it, write it down! :-)21:10
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notmynamein-progress patches, current designs for long-term stuff, ideas for new things, social/community improvements21:11
notmynameall good stuff to include21:11
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notmynameagain, any questions here?21:11
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mattoliverauwe seem to be a chatty bunch today21:12
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acoleslooks like we have sessions all day thurs and friday https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TQ-RSlbiBBEclkonIbfUP7R1ExZSJylF1uiEKV2G_Cw/pubhtml?gid=1107826458&single=true21:12
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* notmyname thinks this whole meeting is "<notmyname>: blahh. and 'any questions?'"21:12
mattoliveraulol21:12
notmynameacoles: correct21:12
acolesand a late finish friday21:12
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notmynamewe have 2 full days21:12
notmynametuesday and wednesday are cross-project and ops sessions21:13
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notmynamewe start with 2 fishbowls (eg our previous ops-feedbask sessions) and have the rest as working sessions21:13
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notmynamelike the last couple of summits, I'll group topics into bunches and schedule them for blocks of time. eg 11-12:30 and 1:50-4:10 so we can get a lot of things covered21:14
mattoliverauand that worked awesomely!21:14
notmynameI liked it. seems like a lot of other people did too :-)21:15
notmynamealso, if you have a conflict (eg a talk you're giving), please mention it at the bottom21:15
acolessomeone suggested last time that people have a chance to give a  v short elvator pitch for a topic that we may not all be familiar with, to attract interest21:16
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acoleshmm, or was that at hackathon?21:16
notmynameeither way, it's a good idea :-)21:16
acolesanyway, seems it could be useful21:16
mattoliverau+121:16
notmynamewe could do that at the end of the last fishbowl, perhaps, as a teaser for the rest of the sessions21:16
notmynamedepends on what other fishbowl we have scheduled21:17
acoleslike, we probably don't need it for sharding?, but if someone is bringing a newish topic21:17
mattoliverauBarcelona is quite far, so dont know how many people are making the trip, maybe those who can't make it but want to give an elevator can still put a topic down and provide some info (link) and someone will chapion it ;)21:17
mattoliverauacoles: you just dont want to hear me talk again :P21:18
notmynameit's not bad to have a quick intro to each of them, because there will be new people there too21:18
notmynamebut still needs to be 2 sentences!21:18
acolesmattoliverau: no, I want to hear you talk lots more than an elevator ride would allow ;)21:18
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mattoliverauacoles: I'll even provide some background elevator music if you'd like.. for the _whole_ session :P21:19
notmynamedfg_: will anyone from rax be there?21:19
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dfg_barcelona? not from over here. mattoliverau?21:19
notmynamedfg_: ok. yeah, was thinking of gophers and hummingbird21:20
mattoliverauI just made the cut.. but many of my colleges here in Oz didin't21:20
dfg_notmyname: no i don't think so21:20
notmynamekk21:20
notmynameI mean, that's not ok, but ack to your answer ;-)21:20
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dfg_:)21:20
notmynameI'd like to have some discussion on the golang work in barca, though. we'll need to figure out how to do that21:21
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dfg_ya- just let us know.21:21
notmynameok21:22
nadeemmaybe video conferencing like we did in previous conference21:22
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notmynamenot sure the facilities we'll have.21:22
nadeemtrue21:22
notmynamebut let's figure out what all is proposed and what can work and who/how to have the conversation21:23
nadeemcool21:23
notmynameanything else about the summit or summit planning someone would like to bring up in this meeting today?21:23
notmynameok, moving on21:25
notmyname#topic top patches and bugs21:25
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notmynameok, more time this week than last :-)21:26
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notmynamewe've done several things as a group to help prioritize patches and bugs in the past21:26
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notmynameas I said last week, i want to start highlighting just a few things in the meeting so that they get some awareness (and hopefully some reviews/patches)21:27
notmynamebut, first, and importantly21:27
notmynameif you are working on something different than something mentioned as a "priority" in here (or elsewhere), that's ok. doesn't take away from your work at all21:27
notmynamewe all have different forces pulling us in different ways, asking us to do different things upstream21:28
notmynamethe point here is not to shame anyone in to writing or reviewing code, but simply highlight some things going on21:28
notmynameok, so last week, right at the end of the meeting, I highlighted these21:29
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notmynamehttps://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1328735 -- Object-updater gives up updating container with no success if all containers are placed at handoff21:29
openstackLaunchpad bug 1328735 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "Object-updater gives up updating container with no success if all containers are placed at handoff" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Takashi Kajinami (kajinamit)21:29
notmynamewhich has a patch at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/99598/21:29
notmynameand https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1624088 -- EC missing durable can prevent reconstruction21:29
openstackLaunchpad bug 1624088 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "EC missing durable can prevent reconstruction" [High,Confirmed]21:29
notmynamewhich has a fix proposed at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/376630/21:29
notmynamethose are pretty big issues, currently each at "high" priority21:30
notmynameI also pointed out https://review.openstack.org/#/c/210099/ -- process level concurrency for container sync21:30
notmynamethere's 2 more I wrote down this week:21:31
notmynamehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/355958/ -- eliminate .durable files21:31
notmynamehttps://review.openstack.org/#/c/376630/ -- reconstruct with non-durable fragments21:31
notmynamewhew. 5 is enough :-)21:31
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acolesthe last is a repeat of the fix for bug 162408821:31
openstackbug 1624088 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "EC missing durable can prevent reconstruction" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/162408821:31
notmynameah, thanks21:32
kota_wow, it looks like mine is getting low.21:32
notmynamedouble important :-)21:32
notmynamekota_: your global EC work is important. but I'd like to see the elimination of the .durables first, and the two patches conflicted21:33
kota_notmyname: fair point21:33
mattoliveraupre-release I was reviewing patch 355958 (.durables), I'll swing back round to that while it's still reletively close in my head :)21:33
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kota_let's land eliminate durable asap :P21:34
notmynameso on the general topic of EC, fixing the reconstructor and eliminating the .durables is a big deal21:34
acolesIIRC most of the change is in test_diskfile :/21:34
mattoliveraukota_: its almost our timezone... just saying ;)21:34
tdasilvalol21:34
notmynamemattoliverau: thanks. and torgomatic has also already put a +1 on that patch too21:35
kota_acoles: the conflicting area is just proxy/test_server.py :/21:35
acoleskota_: yep, sorry! we should stop writing tests, they just cause problems ;)21:35
mattoliverau\o/ no more tests!21:35
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kota_acoles: yeah, it might be good to make a talk at barcelona how we can cleanup test_server.py which is so long line test cases.21:36
notmynameEC (fix reconstructor, eliminate .durable), fix object-updater if containers on handoff, finally land container sync concurrency21:36
notmynamethat's the summary21:36
kota_acoles: and freaquently making conflicts.21:36
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acoleskota_: +121:37
mattoliveraukota_: add it to the etherpad :)21:37
notmynameyou know, landing those things would be worthy of doing a release to get them out the door21:37
kota_acoles, mattoliveau: :)21:37
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notmynameif anyone is looking for something to review, those are great patches to start with21:38
acolesnotmyname: we should land this before another release https://review.openstack.org/37964921:38
acolesfixes a func test failure21:38
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notmynameacoles: ah, good21:39
notmynameI'll take a look at that21:39
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acolesnot in gate but fails if you have >1 policy configured21:39
acoleskota_ has already +221:39
notmynamesounds like we need to get another policy in the gate :-)21:39
acolesI wrote a bug report with some thoughts for that ;) think it is linked off that patch21:40
notmynamespeaking of stuff in the gate, I want to get xfs on the CI workers so we can get torgomatic's "checksum metadata" patch landed21:40
notmynameacoles: oh, good21:40
torgomaticthat'd be nice, wouldn't it?21:40
notmynametorgomatic: yep. i'll do my best to get it done without needed a TC governance resolution21:41
acoleshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/162923421:41
openstackLaunchpad bug 1629234 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "Add a second policy to in process functional tests" [Wishlist,New]21:41
torgomaticnotmyname: and that sentence right there is why I've been avoiding dealing with that patch :/21:41
mattoliverauwhat me to poke my infra workmate to get some ideas (or how hard it could be)21:41
notmynametorgomatic: i know :-)21:41
notmynamemattoliverau: not yet. it's not a lack of knowledge on how to get it done...we can go over it after the meeting, if you want21:41
mattoliverauright kk21:42
notmynamebut since it involves CI image changes, I've held off while the combined releases were being done21:42
notmyname#topic open discussion21:42
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notmynameanything to bring up? on the patches/bugs or anything else?21:42
mattoliverauupdate: I've almost got a readonly large database sharding POC running, hopefully get it running by the end of the week and see if I can start getting some numbers for barcelona21:44
notmynamegreat21:44
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acolesmattoliverau: nice21:44
mattoliveraucoding is "done" there is more to tweak, but enough to start seeing how well it works21:44
mattoliverau**cough** famous last words **cough**21:45
kota_lol21:46
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notmynameok, last call for something else to talk about before this meeting is over21:46
nadeemAlso we looked at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/humming-replication-server and have decided on Solution B. I will be coding for that.21:46
notmynamenadeem: "we"?21:46
nadeemdfg_ ,me & I guess clay too like this option21:47
notmynamenadeem: also, good. i was hoping for that one :-)21:47
nadeemcool21:47
notmynameanything else?21:48
notmynamethanks everyone for coming this week. please continue to fill out https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata_swift_summit_topics21:48
notmynamealso, add ideas to https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata_swift_summit_topics21:48
notmynameand comment on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata_swift_summit_topics with what you like21:48
notmynameand, as always, thanks for working on swift21:49
notmyname#endmeeting21:49
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