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| masahito | ekcs: aimeeu: hi all | 00:01 |
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| aimeeu | hello! | 00:01 |
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| masahito | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 00:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 17 00:02:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is masahito. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:02 |
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| ramineni_ | hi | 00:02 |
| masahito | ramineni_: hi | 00:02 |
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| masahito | today's agenda: | 00:03 |
| masahito | 1. PTG | 00:03 |
| masahito | 2. status update | 00:03 |
| masahito | anything else? | 00:03 |
| ramineni_ | gate issues? | 00:03 |
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| masahito | ramineni_: ok | 00:04 |
| ekcs | we could talk about which patches we’re trying to merge for ocata-1 release. | 00:04 |
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| masahito | ekcs: got it. | 00:04 |
| masahito | 3. gate issue | 00:05 |
| masahito | 4. ocata-1 | 00:05 |
| masahito | #topic PTG | 00:05 |
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| masahito | we needs to decide how many days we have in PTG. | 00:06 |
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| masahito | two days or three days | 00:06 |
| aimeeu | on the mailing list it sounded like the team was fine with 2 days | 00:07 |
| ramineni_ | 2 days would be good i guess | 00:08 |
| masahito | it looks like most of us prefer 2 days meeting | 00:08 |
| ekcs | +1 (as in 2 days makes sense to me too; not as in 2 + 1 = 3) | 00:08 |
| * aimeeu thanks ekcs for the explanation | 00:09 | |
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| masahito | thinrichs also prefers 2 days in the mail | 00:10 |
| masahito | so we choose 2 days session in PTG :-) | 00:10 |
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| ekcs | great | 00:11 |
| aimeeu | +1 | 00:11 |
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| masahito | move on next. | 00:11 |
| masahito | #topic gate issue | 00:11 |
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| masahito | ekcs: ramineni_: sorry, I don't catch up recent gate issue. Could you tell us the current issue? | 00:13 |
| ramineni_ | last week we were seeing multiple gate issues - 1.tempest variable deprecation 2. HA timeout 3. doctor tempest | 00:13 |
| ramineni_ | i have submitted one patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397013/ | 00:13 |
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| ramineni_ | merged it , to actually clear the queue of our review.. hope change sounds good | 00:14 |
| ramineni_ | still we are seeing occasional HA timeout though | 00:14 |
| ekcs | thanks ramineni_ | 00:15 |
| ekcs | so that patch takes care of the deprecated variable. | 00:15 |
| ekcs | can you say a little bit about what the other changes do and why? | 00:15 |
| masahito | ramineni_: thanks. | 00:15 |
| ramineni_ | and HA timeput a lil bit | 00:15 |
| ramineni_ | datasource sync period actually previously its not replaced .. 2 times its added in config file | 00:16 |
| ekcs | got it. | 00:17 |
| ramineni_ | so always the latest variable is datasource_sync_period= 30 | 00:18 |
| ekcs | good catch! | 00:18 |
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| ramineni_ | and added synchronize policies in get_status , to get the latest status in first iteration | 00:18 |
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| masahito | so still remaining issues are 2 and 3? | 00:20 |
| ramineni_ | masahito: 2 is partially fixed as we are able merge patches now.. 3 is still there | 00:20 |
| masahito | ramineni_: got it. I try to check 3. | 00:21 |
| ramineni_ | i think ekcs raised bug for 3 , may be you could take a look at it | 00:21 |
| masahito | yup. I think I should take care it. | 00:22 |
| ramineni_ | masahito: ekcs: should we consider increasing build timout in gate job? | 00:22 |
| ekcs | great work resolving gate so we can merge patches! | 00:23 |
| ekcs | ramineni_: I don’t have an opinion on that now. thoughts are: 1. does it happen a lot. 2. can we make things run faster. | 00:24 |
| masahito | ramineni_: any test hits timeout in gate? | 00:24 |
| ekcs | and I haven’t looked into it to have knowledge on those questions. | 00:24 |
| ekcs | ramineni_ what do you think? | 00:25 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: masahito: ok, lets see for a week then .. if it happens a lot again, we can think about it then? | 00:25 |
| masahito | ramineni_: Agreed | 00:25 |
| ekcs | sounds good. | 00:25 |
| ekcs | one more thing: | 00:25 |
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| ekcs | on the synchronize policy, I wonder if there is another place to trigger the sync instead or another way to do it without having to sync on every get status. | 00:27 |
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| ekcs | people may expect get status to be a fairly cheap read-only action. syncing all policies may be expensive. | 00:29 |
| masahito | ekcs: I think so. | 00:30 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: i tried syncing only one policy , but it didnt help HA .. as sometimes its a datasource policy | 00:31 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs: do you have anything on mind on where to place it? | 00:31 |
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| ekcs | got it. i haven’t thought it all through, but perhaps trigger (rpc) the sync on change (adding/deleting policy; adding/deleting DS), rather than on read. | 00:32 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs: but that doesnt help if multiple peś are there? | 00:33 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: you mean broadcast? | 00:34 |
| ekcs | yea broadcast. | 00:34 |
| ekcs | another thought is perhaps we don’t need to sync to memory to report status. maybe we just need to read the policy from DB to report status. with one status being the policy is in DB, but hasn’t been sync’ed to memory. | 00:34 |
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| ekcs | probably something I need to think through more carefully after ocata-1. | 00:35 |
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| ramineni_ | ok, sure, ya Iĺl also think about it | 00:36 |
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| ekcs | oh and since we’re on the subject, what about this other patch on ha test? | 00:36 |
| ekcs | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397645/ | 00:36 |
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| ramineni_ | :) | 00:37 |
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| ekcs | so primary sync period is left at 30s? | 00:37 |
| ramineni_ | when i see the HA failure , timeout happens in the very initial stage itself, trying ti get status from primary itself | 00:37 |
| ramineni_ | ya, primary sync happens at 30s as we set in devstack | 00:38 |
| ekcs | got it. | 00:38 |
| ekcs | thanks! | 00:38 |
| ekcs | I don’t have anything else on gating. | 00:38 |
| masahito | ok, move on next topic. | 00:39 |
| masahito | #topic ocata-1 release | 00:39 |
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| masahito | to release ocata-1 we need to pick patches ready to merge the milestone. | 00:40 |
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| ekcs | here are the open patches: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/congress+status:open | 00:40 |
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| masahito | My opinion is adding patches related to aodh datasource seems to be good. | 00:41 |
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| ekcs | agreed. maybe each of us with patches open can say which ones we want to merge before ocata-1? | 00:43 |
| ekcs | for context, we pretty much need to merge things today to make it for ocata-1. | 00:43 |
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| ekcs | so essentially things that are ready and maybe just need a quick review. | 00:44 |
| thinrichs | Sorry I'm late all. Meeting in city ran later than expected | 00:45 |
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| thinrichs | My 2 changes can go in. They've been just waiting on gate. | 00:45 |
| ekcs | hi thinrichs ! | 00:45 |
| masahito | thinrichs: hi | 00:45 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: regarding https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393567/ | 00:46 |
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| ramineni_ | any idea why is it still throwing error | 00:47 |
| ekcs | ramineni_: i looked into it some more. | 00:47 |
| ekcs | the warning saying aodh not found happens only early in the test. I think it’s just because aodh wasn’t ready. | 00:48 |
| ekcs | more example in the non-replicated tempest logs, the message doesn’t come up from 16:16 till the end (16:22+) | 00:49 |
| ekcs | similar in the replicated pe test. | 00:49 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: oohk, then should be fine | 00:49 |
| ekcs | I think those patches should be mergeable today if looks fine to people. I’ll update it real quick to use info rather than debug as ramineni_ suggested. | 00:50 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs: ok sounds good then | 00:51 |
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| ekcs | masahito: what about this one? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397096/ | 00:51 |
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| masahito | oh. the bug was assigned to ocata-1. | 00:52 |
| ekcs | do you think we can/should merge it today? | 00:53 |
| masahito | I think it's ready to ocata-1. | 00:53 |
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| ekcs | great! anything else for ocata-1? | 00:54 |
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| ekcs | #action Let's review these patches and try to merge them today if possible. (Not a big deal if some get delayed and miss ocata-1) | 00:55 |
| ekcs | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397096/ | 00:55 |
| ekcs | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393420/ | 00:55 |
| ekcs | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394258/ | 00:55 |
| ekcs | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393977/ | 00:55 |
| ekcs | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393567/ | 00:55 |
| ekcs | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397796/ | 00:55 |
| ekcs | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397096/ | 00:55 |
| masahito | ekcs: thanks the link and wrap up. | 00:56 |
| masahito | last 4 mins. | 00:56 |
| masahito | #topic open discussion | 00:56 |
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| thinrichs | Quick note: I attended the policy meeting this morning, where they're talking about the state of policy.json in OpenStack and whether we could improve it. | 00:57 |
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| thinrichs | Good attendance, over 10 people for sure | 00:57 |
| masahito | thinrichs: sounds big meeting. | 00:58 |
| thinrichs | Learning about congress is an action item for next week. | 00:58 |
| ekcs | awesomeness! | 00:58 |
| ramineni_ | great :) | 00:58 |
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| thinrichs | Discussion of having a backend (Apache fortress or similar) came up. I suggested Congress | 00:58 |
| thinrichs | Learned something new about policy.json... | 00:59 |
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| masahito | oh, running out meeting time. | 01:00 |
| masahito | thanks all. let's review patches, and then good evening/morning/night! | 01:01 |
| masahito | #endmeeting | 01:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 17 01:02:02 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-11-17-00.02.html | 01:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-11-17-00.02.txt | 01:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-11-17-00.02.log.html | 01:02 |
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| thinrichs | each service can push resource properties (like cpu/mem for compute instances) into oslo.policy so that people can write rules about those properties | 01:02 |
| thinrichs | Not much else to report there | 01:02 |
| ekcs | oh interesting. | 01:02 |
| thinrichs | Out of time. | 01:02 |
| thinrichs | Talk to you all later! | 01:02 |
| ekcs | later | 01:02 |
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| eumel8 | morning | 06:59 |
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| ianychoi | hi | 07:00 |
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| eumel8 | hi ianychoi | 07:01 |
| katomo | hi ianychoi eumel8 | 07:01 |
| eumel8 | hi katomo | 07:01 |
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| ianychoi | hi katomo and eumel8 ! | 07:02 |
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| ianychoi | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n meeting | 07:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 17 07:02:48 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ianychoi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 07:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 07:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n meeting)" | 07:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 07:02 |
| ianychoi | Hi How are you all? | 07:03 |
| eumel8 | good! | 07:03 |
| ianychoi | Nice :) | 07:04 |
| eumel8 | lots of work, daily business | 07:04 |
| eumel8 | :) | 07:04 |
| ianychoi | Me too, and recently I am working on generating install-guide PDFs from rsts... it needs more work than I first expected.. | 07:04 |
| ianychoi | #topic Review on last meeting actions | 07:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review on last meeting actions (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n meeting)" | 07:05 | |
| ianychoi | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-11-10-13.01.html | 07:05 |
| ianychoi | There were a few actions from the last meeting: ianychoi and eumel8 | 07:05 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, thanks a lot for attending the last infra team meeting! | 07:05 |
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| ianychoi | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2016/infra.2016-11-15-19.02.html | 07:06 |
| ianychoi | Number 7 describes the conversation :) | 07:06 |
| eumel8 | yes | 07:06 |
| eumel8 | for me was attending the infra team meeting on Tuesday | 07:06 |
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| eumel8 | we've got two volunteers to support the zanata server upgrade to xenial | 07:07 |
| ianychoi | I sent an e-mail to aeng the result, because Zanata team wants to know status | 07:07 |
| eumel8 | sure | 07:07 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, yep so nice :) | 07:07 |
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| eumel8 | process looks good to me, but I was unsure if we want an upgrade or a complete new installation? | 07:08 |
| ianychoi | And for me, I have submitted feedback and sent a mail to Heidi copying to katomo :) | 07:08 |
| ianychoi | (mascot) | 07:08 |
| ianychoi | Also, for i18n-spec use cases, I am writting it | 07:08 |
| katomo | I read it. thanks | 07:08 |
| ianychoi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/i18n-specs-use-cases | 07:08 |
| ianychoi | katomo, np :) | 07:08 |
| ianychoi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397098/ | 07:09 |
| ianychoi | This is my initial commit for i18n-specs and I think we might polish a template: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397098/1/template.rst to make more appropriate into i18n team | 07:09 |
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| eumel8 | very good, ianychoi | 07:12 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, thanks :) Any recommendations on use-cases? | 07:12 |
| eumel8 | no | 07:12 |
| eumel8 | not yet | 07:12 |
| ianychoi | And please review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397098/ eumel8 and katomo :) | 07:13 |
| eumel8 | ok | 07:13 |
| katomo | sure | 07:13 |
| ianychoi | I think I might need to send an e-mail for spec use-cases to current core reviewers and language coordinators.. | 07:13 |
| ianychoi | Thanks a lot! | 07:14 |
| ianychoi | #topic open discussions | 07:14 |
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| ianychoi | Actually, I was busy on other work rather than i18n... but today I have fixed for i18n: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398730/ | 07:15 |
| ianychoi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2016-November/002592.html | 07:16 |
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| katomo | good finding. sorry for breakage Mitaka translation. fix release is undergoing. | 07:17 |
| ianychoi | For this, it would be much better if more i18n members will share opinions | 07:17 |
| katomo | hm | 07:17 |
| ianychoi | katomo, one more worse thing was that I reviewed the previous patch... I should have found the bug.... | 07:17 |
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| katomo | ugo | 07:18 |
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| katomo | no worries | 07:18 |
| ianychoi | katomo, after fixing it, would you change http://docs.openstack.org/ja/ to link Newton? | 07:18 |
| ianychoi | Newton install guides for Japanese | 07:18 |
| katomo | yeah | 07:18 |
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| ianychoi | I will take care of Korean version | 07:19 |
| ianychoi | Thanks | 07:19 |
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| ianychoi | katomo, one question: for install-guides, just >75% for install-guides would be okay, or >75% for both install-guides and common would be needed? | 07:22 |
| katomo | systematically, no need | 07:22 |
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| ianychoi | Hmm.. then the decision would be dependent to languages? | 07:22 |
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| katomo | also, "common" for stable branch mainly contains "get started" content. | 07:23 |
| katomo | therefore, I myself don't think it is so important. | 07:23 |
| ianychoi | Since.. I think Chinese and French have good ratio for install-guides (>75) but more translation on common seems to be needed. If they want to publish install-guides, then I want to add translation jobs of install-guides for both two + other languages (I need to check ratio) | 07:24 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, for German, 56.54% :) | 07:24 |
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| katomo | I see | 07:25 |
| eumel8 | I know | 07:25 |
| ianychoi | katomo, sorry for lots of question.. :) But would you update progress for blueprints? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n | 07:25 |
| katomo | sorry, no progress. | 07:26 |
| ianychoi | katomo, that's fine. What I want to ask is that for example, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+spec/release-notes-translation -> I think all things were done, right? | 07:26 |
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| katomo | ah, yep | 07:28 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, you can +2 :) | 07:28 |
| ianychoi | i18n-specs has the same previlege as openstack/i18n :) | 07:28 |
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| eumel8 | too shy | 07:28 |
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| ianychoi | haha eumel8 is so expert on i18n with puppet :) | 07:29 |
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| eumel8 | +2 | 07:30 |
| ianychoi | Hmm.. I think I need to triage bugs on openstack-i18n: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n | 07:30 |
| ianychoi | #action ianychoi will triage bugs in openstack-i18n: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n | 07:31 |
| eumel8 | russian and chinese | 07:31 |
| ianychoi | Yep on Barcelona Summit, I asked adiantum for defining bug management process for local languages with project contributors. | 07:32 |
| ianychoi | After i18n-spec is ready, I think I need to ask adiantum to write a simple spec :) | 07:33 |
| eumel8 | ok | 07:33 |
| ianychoi | Currently, I like this: uploading bugs into openstack-i18n | 07:33 |
| ianychoi | Thanks to that, I now know that more local people are interested in i18n activities | 07:34 |
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| eumel8 | yes, I tried always to collect more people to the team | 07:36 |
| ianychoi | Thanks a lot :) | 07:37 |
| ianychoi | By the way.. because it is just open discussion, have you seen this? | 07:37 |
| ianychoi | http://www.ubergizmo.com/2016/11/google-translate-neural-machine-translation/ | 07:37 |
| ianychoi | I have seen this article in Korean yesterday, and I thought that our activities will be easier thanks to AI :) | 07:38 |
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| eumel8 | the next logical thing for machine learning | 07:39 |
| ianychoi | The world is really changing..... | 07:39 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, aha and how about translation checksite you think? | 07:40 |
| eumel8 | maybe we can use this Google API sometimes in Zanata | 07:40 |
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| eumel8 | translation checksite ... I don't know | 07:41 |
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| eumel8 | have you talked to cloudnull last time? | 07:41 |
| ianychoi | Hmm... current issue might be DevStack vs. ansible? | 07:41 |
| eumel8 | yes, and ansible without container | 07:42 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, I shared to you for the last talk with cloudnull about a week ago. Have you seen it? | 07:42 |
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| eumel8 | yes | 07:42 |
| ianychoi | I asked cloudnull for performance and their opinion on difference between devstack and ansible | 07:43 |
| eumel8 | when sent you the message? | 07:45 |
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| ianychoi | Hmm... I don't know how I help for translation checksite. But at least revising http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/translation_check_site.html from your draft on Etherpad may attract more members | 07:45 |
| ianychoi | About one week ago.. I will check it | 07:45 |
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| ianychoi | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/irclogs/%23openstack-ansible/%23openstack-ansible.2016-11-09.log.html#t2016-11-09T16:07:20 | 07:46 |
| jftalta | Hi all | 07:47 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, hi! | 07:47 |
| katomo | Hi jftalta | 07:48 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, http://paste.openstack.org/show/589541/ (I have just copied) | 07:48 |
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| jftalta | I am heading to office bu train. Internet connection is pretty bad | 07:48 |
| eumel8 | thx | 07:48 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, have you arrived at your office? :) Huk train... thanks for today participation! | 07:48 |
| jftalta | s/bu/by | 07:48 |
| jftalta | No, not yet. | 07:49 |
| eumel8 | ianychoi: we have to think about it. It depends more on the infra team as on ansible. | 07:49 |
| jftalta | Hi eumel8 | 07:49 |
| eumel8 | At the moment I would say, without container it makes no sence | 07:50 |
| eumel8 | hi jftalta! | 07:50 |
| eumel8 | sense | 07:50 |
| eumel8 | I could test the horizon container installation from ansible on a plain ubuntu vm. | 07:51 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, what I currently want is to just open horizon translation checksite around on the 2nd to 3rd week on the next January. I need to check schedule again, but since we have not enough time, I just want to deploy horizon with translation once | 07:52 |
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| ianychoi | just once. To collect feedback | 07:52 |
| eumel8 | but then you have duplicated code if you need adjustments on the origin | 07:52 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, yep I completely agree with you | 07:52 |
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| ianychoi | But.. hmm.. for Ocata, I am not sure whether container based approach will be successfully landed in next January or not. | 07:53 |
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| ianychoi | For DevStack, I think I can ask just once to infra team members.. if they are willing to | 07:53 |
| eumel8 | I think we have to start still with a work around | 07:53 |
| eumel8 | not nice, I know | 07:53 |
| ianychoi | I prefer container approach :) | 07:53 |
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| ianychoi | But.. I also want to have one translation checksite during Ocata cycle :) | 07:54 |
| jftalta | container aoproach : +1 | 07:54 |
| ianychoi | Then.. how about just DevStack for next January and at the same time developing container-based approach? | 07:54 |
| eumel8 | how often you want a upgrade of the site? | 07:55 |
| ianychoi | I hope that container-based approach will be successfully landed on P-cycle | 07:55 |
| ianychoi | For Ocata cycle, it seems to be difficult... This is my current thinking just considering with timeline... | 07:55 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, for Ocata, I think just once around soft string freeze would be sufficient | 07:56 |
| ianychoi | Ideally, daily or weekly refresh | 07:56 |
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| eumel8 | maybe the openstack-ansible team has also requirements for a test environment what we can also use in the future. | 07:56 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, oh nice :) | 07:56 |
| eumel8 | I mean NOT ideally :-)) | 07:57 |
| ianychoi | haha okay. For this refresh period maybe we need to ask to language coordinators | 07:57 |
| ianychoi | For me, just once per week is good | 07:57 |
| eumel8 | but with one new installation around soft string we can deal with the infra team | 07:58 |
| ianychoi | as far as i know, container based approach may prevent from lots of dealing with the infra team, right? | 07:58 |
| eumel8 | weekly is not possible if you need the infra team personaly | 07:58 |
| ianychoi | I want a kind of automatic refresh mechanism.. but I am not sure | 07:59 |
| eumel8 | I think it's caused for root access to the machine to enter the container | 07:59 |
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| eumel8 | that was my understanding from my talk with pleia2 | 07:59 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, maybe you will have root access for containers if it will be implemented | 07:59 |
| eumel8 | we will see | 08:00 |
| ianychoi | Hmm.. time is up | 08:00 |
| eumel8 | time is over :) | 08:00 |
| ianychoi | Let's move to #openstack-i18n channel if we need to discuss more | 08:00 |
| ianychoi | Thanks you all, eumel8 , katomo and jftalta ! | 08:00 |
| ianychoi | #endmeeting | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 17 08:00:41 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-11-17-07.02.html | 08:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-11-17-07.02.txt | 08:00 |
| katomo | Thanks, all! | 08:00 |
| eumel8 | sorry, have to work | 08:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-11-17-07.02.log.html | 08:00 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, would you come to #openstack-i18n channel? | 08:01 |
| eumel8 | ok | 08:01 |
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| gmann | #startmeeting qa | 09:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 17 09:00:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 09:00 |
| gmann | hello, who all here today? | 09:00 |
| masayukig | o/ | 09:00 |
| * andreaf o/ I'm only half here - ping me if you need me please :) | 09:00 | |
| DavidPurcell | o/ | 09:00 |
| DavidPurcell | Here but barely awake | 09:01 |
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| gmann | masayukig: DavidPurcell andreaf hi | 09:01 |
| gmann | andreaf: sure we need you always :) | 09:01 |
| gmann | let's wait for few min in case more people join | 09:02 |
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| masayukig | ok | 09:03 |
| gmann | dmellado: oomichi : ? | 09:03 |
| gmann | ok, let's start | 09:04 |
| gmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_November_17th_2016_.280900_UTC.29 | 09:04 |
| gmann | ^^ today agenda | 09:04 |
| gmann | #topic Ocata Priorities | 09:04 |
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| gmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-qa-priorities | 09:04 |
| gmann | ^^ this etherpad has all prioirty items we discussed in Barcelona | 09:04 |
| gmann | we had most of them from O-2 | 09:05 |
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| gmann | for me this one - Add an option for the number of target VMs to test live-migration | 09:05 |
| gmann | i might start this in next week may be | 09:06 |
| gmann | not so hard so will be quick | 09:06 |
| masayukig | cool :) | 09:06 |
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| gmann | i also want to do at least 2 VM live migration on gate as default | 09:06 |
| gmann | if that is acceptable as live migration job seems not so stable :) | 09:07 |
| gmann | next one - Remove deep test class Inheritance for easy debugging | 09:07 |
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| gmann | we really need some progress in this but not sure whether it is started | 09:08 |
| gmann | ekhugen, dmellado, jhakimra ^^ | 09:08 |
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| gmann | this makes debugging easy and much cleanup | 09:09 |
| masayukig | yeah | 09:09 |
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| gmann | first one - Add an option for stopping cleanup when test failure happens | 09:09 |
| gmann | i did not see its sepc but we can wait on this | 09:09 |
| gmann | dpaterson, mkopec ^^ | 09:10 |
| gmann | those are one for Ocata as this is short cycle | 09:10 |
| gmann | anything else on this? | 09:10 |
| DavidPurcell | policy spec is waiting on 2nd +2 | 09:11 |
| DavidPurcell | and a few typo fixes... | 09:11 |
| gmann | DavidPurcell: cool, ll cover on spec topic | 09:11 |
| gmann | #topic Specs Reviews | 09:11 |
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| DavidPurcell | okay, sorry I went too early | 09:11 |
| masayukig | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382672/ | 09:11 |
| masayukig | ? | 09:11 |
| DavidPurcell | that's the one | 09:12 |
| dmellado | gmann: | 09:12 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 09:12 |
| dmellado | o/ | 09:12 |
| dmellado | sorry I was late | 09:12 |
| gmann | dmellado: hi, no prob | 09:12 |
| * masayukig waves to dmellado | 09:12 | |
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| dmellado | \o/ | 09:12 |
| dmellado | from my side and alongside mkoderer__ | 09:13 |
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| dmellado | we're cleaning up manila tempest plugin, which will need also some work on tempest.lib ;) | 09:13 |
| gmann | DavidPurcell: nice, i will check that may be tomorrow morning | 09:13 |
| DavidPurcell | gmann: Thanks! It'd be great if we could get it merged by the end of the week :) | 09:13 |
| andreaf | dmellado: let me know if you need anything on that :) | 09:14 |
| gmann | DavidPurcell: thanks for that | 09:14 |
| dmellado | andreaf: o/ welcome back! sure, will do and I really appreciate it! | 09:14 |
| gmann | DavidPurcell: sure | 09:14 |
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| gmann | dmellado: work on tempest.lib you means credential classes you mentioned in summit? | 09:14 |
| dmellado | yep, and also at some point I'd like to move some more stuff to tempest.lib | 09:15 |
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| dmellado | thinking about how to remove some dependencies first | 09:15 |
| oomichi | gmann: hi, sorry for my late joining. The gate of airport took time for passing | 09:15 |
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| dmellado | such as manager and remote_client | 09:15 |
| gmann | dmellado: moving is always great but changing existnig one need backward compatibility manner | 09:15 |
| gmann | oomichi: i knew :) | 09:15 |
| dmellado | gmann: yep, I'm aware of it, that's why it's being tough! | 09:15 |
| andreaf | dmellado: you mean scenario manager? | 09:15 |
| gmann | dmellado: yea | 09:15 |
| dmellado | andreaf: hold on, I'll post the link to the etherpad where we're tracking this | 09:16 |
| gmann | dmellado: yea and paste here too | 09:16 |
| dmellado | gmann: andreaf https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/manila_no_tempest_deps | 09:16 |
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| andreaf | dmellado: cool thanks | 09:17 |
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| gmann | dmellado: thanks | 09:17 |
| dmellado | andreaf: if you're 'back into business' I'll count you into that ;) | 09:18 |
| gmann | dmellado: so dynamic_credential is on the way to lib | 09:18 |
| dmellado | gmann: cool, that'd deff help too | 09:18 |
| gmann | or it is merged, cannot find patch from mtreinish | 09:18 |
| andreaf | yes I have some time now for upstream work, so I'll start back on those topics | 09:19 |
| gmann | dmellado: anyays, if you need changes in that we can hold that before moving | 09:19 |
| oomichi | andreaf: cool, nice back :) | 09:19 |
| gmann | andreaf: great news. | 09:19 |
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| dmellado | gmann: I'll have to sync with mkoderer__ later this morning | 09:20 |
| gmann | sure | 09:20 |
| gmann | thanks | 09:20 |
| dmellado | I'll let you guys know if I need that after it, but thanks! | 09:20 |
| gmann | next spec - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173334/ | 09:20 |
| gmann | tempest-resource | 09:20 |
| gmann | so oomichi andreaf its all good it seems. | 09:20 |
| gmann | i will try to review by this week most | 09:20 |
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| oomichi | gmann: thanks, yeah it is good spec nwo I feel | 09:21 |
| oomichi | s/nwo/now | 09:21 |
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| gmann | oomichi: andreaf Thanks.. ll check for sure | 09:21 |
| gmann | other spec seems to be rebase | 09:21 |
| gmann | but anything else anyone has on spec? | 09:22 |
| gmann | #topic Tempest | 09:22 |
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| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tempest+status:open | 09:22 |
| gmann | ^^ open reviews | 09:22 |
| gmann | 1 thing i want masayukig to bring about new project he added in qa | 09:23 |
| gmann | masayukig: ^^ | 09:23 |
| dmellado | yeah, I'll try to save some time to review those specs too | 09:23 |
| gmann | dmellado: cool. thanks | 09:23 |
| masayukig | gmann : coverage2sql? | 09:23 |
| oomichi | yeah, for unit tests coverage | 09:23 |
| gmann | masayukig: yea | 09:23 |
| masayukig | gmann : I'll bring it in the open discussion, though :) | 09:24 |
| gmann | masayukig: ok no prob | 09:24 |
| dmellado | on tempest also, I'd like to propose a revert, I added you guys to a review to revert one change in ssh | 09:24 |
| dmellado | as it's having issues with ssh on the ironic-inspector plugin | 09:25 |
| dmellado | did you have the time to have a look? | 09:25 |
| gmann | dmellado: link? | 09:25 |
| oomichi | dmellado: do you have a patch for that? | 09:25 |
| dmellado | on it ;) | 09:25 |
| gmann | dmellado: this one? - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366806/ | 09:26 |
| dmellado | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/366806/ | 09:26 |
| dmellado | yep, that one | 09:26 |
| dmellado | my network was just being slow, thanks for that gmann | 09:26 |
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| oomichi | that seems puppet job fails, EmilienM needs to review it | 09:27 |
| gmann | dmellado: so what the issue there | 09:27 |
| gmann | no more info in commit message | 09:27 |
| dmellado | I've found that without that revert and with the ironic-inspector plugin installed, tempest.scenario.test_security_groups_basic_ops.TestSecurityGroupsBasicOps.test_port_security_disable_security_group hangs forever | 09:27 |
| dmellado | I'll take it over and add this information | 09:27 |
| dmellado | you can have a look at our related issue here, in any case | 09:28 |
| dmellado | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1394744 | 09:28 |
| openstack | bugzilla.redhat.com bug 1394744 in openstack-tempest "TestSecurityGroupsBasicOps.test_port_security_disable_security_group test gets halted by giving request timed out." [Unspecified,New] - Assigned to dmellado | 09:28 |
| gmann | dmellado: humm, mainly `recv_exit_status` should be checked after reading | 09:28 |
| dmellado | I've checked the bug that led to this issue, and I haven't been able to reproduce it in any case | 09:29 |
| gmann | oomichi: file not found on puppet failure | 09:29 |
| gmann | anyways ll check that | 09:29 |
| oomichi | gmann: yeah, that seems another failure.. | 09:30 |
| gmann | oomichi: hidden failure :) | 09:30 |
| dmellado | in any case please do review it if you have the time, I'll add EmilienM too | 09:30 |
| gmann | sure | 09:30 |
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| oomichi | dmellado: ok, that is stared on my list | 09:30 |
| gmann | next thing is baremetal tests removal - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355586/ | 09:30 |
| dmellado | thanks! | 09:30 |
| gmann | oomichi: thanks | 09:30 |
| gmann | this patch is much close, i have -1 for service availability of Ironic service which i feel should be in plugin side | 09:31 |
| gmann | not in tempest.config.py | 09:31 |
| gmann | all other looks fine | 09:32 |
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| gmann | any more poitns on tempest side or we jump to bugs | 09:33 |
| oomichi | gmann: yeah, basically these options would be on plugin side | 09:33 |
| gmann | Bug Triage: we discussd in barcelona that we will start triage rotation again same way we used to do before | 09:33 |
| gmann | oomichi: ops sorry | 09:33 |
| oomichi | gmann: no problem, | 09:34 |
| gmann | oomichi: yea same way congress and ceilometer conrdinate | 09:34 |
| oomichi | gmann: config is defined as stable interface also, so it is necessary to take deprecation time | 09:34 |
| oomichi | if you want to move them into plugin side | 09:34 |
| gmann | oomichi: i think no till those are register from plugin side | 09:34 |
| gmann | oomichi: becasue if plugin register those and we can access those same way from tempet config | 09:35 |
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| gmann | no user effect | 09:35 |
| oomichi | gmann: true if no projects are using these options from outside | 09:36 |
| gmann | i mean user can still override moved config in tempest.conf | 09:36 |
| gmann | oomichi: but still other project can get from from tempest inport config right | 09:36 |
| gmann | oomichi: ahh you mean if anyone depends on tempest to register those? | 09:36 |
| oomichi | gmann: yeah, if they can use other project as plugin correctly | 09:36 |
| dmellado | oomichi: by config do you mean that now plugins can import config from tempest.lib too? | 09:37 |
| oomichi | gmann: yeah, that is just a small concern. but as you know, some projects are using the options wrongly as you are fixing | 09:37 |
| gmann | oomichi: but if we keep in tempest conf then plugin needs to wait till those get removed from tempest | 09:37 |
| gmann | oomichi: yea | 09:37 |
| oomichi | gmann: I will check the other projects code later | 09:38 |
| gmann | oomichi: ok | 09:38 |
| oomichi | dmellado: no, we are defining tempest.conf also as stable interface | 09:38 |
| * oomichi sorry. my pc battery is super low now. will be off soon | 09:39 | |
| gmann | oomichi: i got your concern as some of the network tests using baremtal driver enalbe or not | 09:39 |
| dmellado | oomichi: I see, wouldn't you have any link to that commit? I'll look for it otherwise | 09:39 |
| gmann | oomichi: no prob, | 09:39 |
| gmann | oomichi: have a safe flight back | 09:39 |
| dmellado | ouch! oomichi safe flight, didn't know you were at the airport ;) | 09:39 |
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| gmann | dmellado: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355586/ | 09:39 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/355586/ | 09:39 |
| dmellado | thanks gmann | 09:39 |
| masayukig | safe trip oomichi | 09:39 |
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| gmann | so on bug side | 09:40 |
| gmann | we started triage rotation | 09:40 |
| gmann | in thsi etherpad | 09:40 |
| masayukig | o/ | 09:40 |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-qa-bug-triage | 09:40 |
| gmann | this week rtoation was luzC | 09:40 |
| gmann | luzC: ^^ | 09:41 |
| masayukig | ? | 09:41 |
| masayukig | gmann : I think it's me | 09:41 |
| masayukig | it's my turn | 09:41 |
| gmann | masayukig: your is next week right | 09:41 |
| * dmellado getting confused with the dates | 09:41 | |
| gmann | masayukig: got it | 09:41 |
| gmann | masayukig: sorry for mis undersatnding the dates | 09:42 |
| gmann | masayukig: go ahead | 09:42 |
| masayukig | yup | 09:42 |
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| masayukig | so, I triaged around 10 bugs | 09:42 |
| gmann | masayukig: nice | 09:43 |
| masayukig | so, now there's 25 new bugs | 09:43 |
| gmann | masayukig: any critical one we should focus | 09:43 |
| masayukig | #link http://status.openstack.org/bugday/ | 09:43 |
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| gmann | masayukig: your patch got merged for graph thing? | 09:44 |
| masayukig | not yet... There're 3 critical bugs on launchpad.. | 09:44 |
| masayukig | https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest | 09:44 |
| masayukig | But they are a little bit old.. | 09:45 |
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| gmann | masayukig: 2 are fix committed | 09:45 |
| gmann | masayukig: and ssh one is yes old one | 09:45 |
| masayukig | yeah, and, I'm not sure this status https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1298472 | 09:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1298472 in tempest "SSHTimeout in tempest trying to verify that computes are actually functioning" [Critical,New] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem) | 09:45 |
| gmann | ok | 09:46 |
| masayukig | that's it from my side | 09:46 |
| gmann | and about weekly bug report, i did not get much idea about how many triaged or new came up from this- http://status.openstack.org/bugday/ | 09:46 |
| gmann | masayukig: should we start a etherpad where we can write weekly finding on bug triage liek we used to do previously | 09:47 |
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| * oomichi is going back to get power | 09:47 | |
| dmellado | +1 on that, I think it'd make things clearer | 09:47 |
| dmellado | oomichi: congrats on finding a power outlet! | 09:47 |
| gmann | ok will check that | 09:48 |
| masayukig | we can see the number from the json file, but the etherpad idea looks good to me :) | 09:48 |
| oomichi | dmellado: thanks :) congrats :) | 09:48 |
| oomichi | yeah, nice to share current status of bugs | 09:48 |
| oomichi | by the etherpad | 09:48 |
| gmann | #action gmann to check weekly bug triage report machenism (etherpad may be) | 09:48 |
| gmann | ok | 09:48 |
| gmann | masayukig: Thanks for that. | 09:48 |
| masayukig | fyi, curl http://status.openstack.org/bugday/tempest-bug-stats-daily.json | jq '.records[]["new"]' | 09:48 |
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| masayukig | something like thit | 09:49 |
| gmann | next week seems skipped and then my turn | 09:49 |
| masayukig | yes | 09:49 |
| gmann | masayukig: nice. ll check | 09:49 |
| gmann | so 10 min left | 09:49 |
| gmann | we will skip devstack and grenade is nothing on those | 09:49 |
| masayukig | ok | 09:50 |
| gmann | #topic openstack-health | 09:50 |
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| gmann | masayukig: ^^ | 09:50 |
| oomichi | gmann: it would be nice to describe a new way(maybe etherpad) on https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-qa-bug-triage | 09:50 |
| gmann | i saw you mapped all summit idea to bugs | 09:50 |
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| * dmellado needs to rush to a meeting, o/ guys | 09:50 | |
| gmann | oomichi: sure, ll do that | 09:50 |
| masayukig | actually, there's nothing about openstack-health specific things, but | 09:50 |
| oomichi | gmann: cool, thanks | 09:50 |
| masayukig | I'm thinking about to add a graph from coverage2sql data | 09:51 |
| gmann | masayukig: cool | 09:51 |
| oomichi | masayukig: cool, is that easy to do that? | 09:51 |
| gmann | masayukig: ll get all coverage for all project UT ? | 09:51 |
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| masayukig | It's the best if we can\ | 09:52 |
| masayukig | but, it's hard to do it | 09:52 |
| masayukig | And we need to collect coverage data like subunit2sql doing | 09:52 |
| oomichi | masayukig: is it hard because of much data? | 09:52 |
| gmann | yea, thats true | 09:52 |
| masayukig | yes, and a lot of projects aren't getting the data now, | 09:53 |
| oomichi | masayukig: ah, a nice point | 09:53 |
| gmann | masayukig: ok, may be we can start with 6 core project and then others | 09:53 |
| masayukig | yeah, | 09:53 |
| oomichi | gmann: oh, good idea | 09:54 |
| masayukig | and we may advertise it after that | 09:54 |
| gmann | yea | 09:54 |
| gmann | it will incourage other projects | 09:54 |
| oomichi | masayukig: yeah, most projects tend to follow after core projects do | 09:54 |
| gmann | 5 min left, sorry to jump further | 09:54 |
| masayukig | np | 09:55 |
| gmann | masayukig: thanks | 09:55 |
| gmann | #topic Critical Reviews | 09:55 |
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| gmann | i think we talked on critical reviews | 09:55 |
| gmann | but if anyone want to bring up more please do it | 09:55 |
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| oomichi | yep, it is nice to move on | 09:55 |
| gmann | k | 09:56 |
| gmann | #topic Open Discussion | 09:56 |
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| gmann | anything more to discuss | 09:56 |
| gmann | masayukig: you have one | 09:56 |
| masayukig | gmann : thanks | 09:56 |
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| masayukig | I added a new repo under QA https://launchpad.net/coverage2sql | 09:56 |
| masayukig | (I already mentioned, though) | 09:57 |
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| masayukig | It's on very early stage, | 09:57 |
| masayukig | if someone is interested in, any feedbacks are welcome :) | 09:57 |
| oomichi | oh, that is registered April, that is older than I expected | 09:58 |
| gmann | masayukig: cool | 09:58 |
| masayukig | oomichi : heh | 09:58 |
| masayukig | "coverage2sql is a tool for storing data of test coverage into a SQL database." | 09:58 |
| oomichi | masayukig: do we have openstack repo already? | 09:58 |
| masayukig | oomichi : yup | 09:58 |
| masayukig | #link https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/coverage2sql | 09:58 |
| oomichi | masayukig: oh, cool :) | 09:58 |
| gmann | yea | 09:59 |
| gmann | 1 min left | 09:59 |
| DavidPurcell | This definitely looks cool. AT&T is trying to get test coverage up for a lot of services, I'll see if I can get some people to help out with it. :) | 09:59 |
| masayukig | DavidPurcell : \o/ | 09:59 |
| gmann | DavidPurcell: great | 09:59 |
| oomichi | DavidPurcell: awesome :) | 09:59 |
| masayukig | DavidPurcell : welcome! | 09:59 |
| gmann | let's move to qa | 10:00 |
| gmann | thanks all | 10:00 |
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| gmann | #endmeeting | 10:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 10:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 17 10:00:06 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-11-17-09.00.html | 10:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-11-17-09.00.txt | 10:00 |
| masayukig | thanks! | 10:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-11-17-09.00.log.html | 10:00 |
| jordanP | grr | 10:00 |
| jordanP | I missed it | 10:00 |
| jordanP | I am so bad at timezone :p | 10:00 |
| masayukig | jordanP : move to #qa :) | 10:00 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 17 14:00:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
| macsz | \o | 14:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:00 |
| bauzas | \o | 14:00 |
| alex_xu | o/ | 14:00 |
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| diana_clarke | o/ | 14:00 |
| johnthetubaguy | hello from your guest host for today | 14:00 |
| * bauzas will have to bail out early by 1425UTC | 14:00 | |
| cdent | o/ | 14:00 |
| raj_singh | o/ | 14:00 |
| sfinucan | howdy | 14:00 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #topic Release News | 14:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release News (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:01 | |
| johnthetubaguy | #link Ocata release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Ocata_Release_Schedule | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | #info Today (11/17) is the o-1 milestone and spec approval freeze. | 14:01 |
| edleafe | \o | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | #help Need to create the pike structure for the nova-specs repo so we can move specs that didn't get merged for ocata. | 14:01 |
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| johnthetubaguy | any volunteers for that? | 14:01 |
| bauzas | I can | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool | 14:01 |
| johnthetubaguy | #action bauzas to help with pike structure | 14:01 |
| lyarwood | o/ | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | any more for any more on the release details? | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Bugs | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:02 | |
| johnthetubaguy | no critical bugs listed right now | 14:02 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 14:02 |
| bauzas | mriedem: lemme know when you want to cut o-1 | 14:02 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link 3rd party CI status http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=7+days | 14:03 |
| mriedem | bauzas: did it yesterday | 14:03 |
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| bauzas | mriedem: oh okay | 14:03 |
| mriedem | bauzas: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398537/ | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/nova/tag/?h=15.0.0.0b1 | 14:03 |
| bauzas | \o/ | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | #info we cut o-1 | 14:04 |
| bauzas | I haven't reviewed the release notes, but that looks nice anyway | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | so anything on bugs and gate status folks want to cover? | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Reminders | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:05 | |
| johnthetubaguy | #link Ocata review priorities https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:05 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #topic Stable branch status | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable branch status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:06 | |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker | 14:06 |
| mriedem | grenade job in stable/newton is broken by yours truly | 14:06 |
| mriedem | lyarwood has a fix up | 14:06 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398920/ | 14:06 |
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| bauzas | mmmm, okay | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, good call out | 14:07 |
| bauzas | I'll review the change | 14:07 |
| bauzas | so, xenial doesn't work with stable/newton ? | 14:07 |
| lyarwood | stable/mitaka | 14:07 |
| lyarwood | for the initial install | 14:08 |
| mriedem | grenade on newton starts on mitaka | 14:08 |
| mriedem | it's weird | 14:08 |
| bauzas | oh snap, yeah | 14:08 |
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| mriedem | and mitaka is trusty | 14:08 |
| mriedem | non-grenade on newton is xenial | 14:08 |
| bauzas | yeah, you're right, dudes | 14:08 |
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| bauzas | I forgot about that | 14:08 |
| bauzas | for full grenade then | 14:08 |
| bauzas | but okay, I see, +1d it | 14:09 |
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| lyarwood | bauzas: thanks | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool, lets keep rolling forward then | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Subteam Highlights | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Subteam Highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:09 | |
| johnthetubaguy | Cells v2? | 14:09 |
| mriedem | there was no meeting | 14:09 |
| mriedem | just need reviews | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, right | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | scheduler? | 14:09 |
| edleafe | Clarified that there will be no impact to the CachingScheduler when we switch the FilterScheduler to get a reduced number of hosts from the Placement API. | 14:09 |
| mriedem | starts here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394656/ | 14:09 |
| edleafe | Agreed that the *use* of CoreFilter, RAMFilter and DiskFilter will be deprecated, and not the filters themselves, as they are used by other schedulers. | 14:09 |
| edleafe | Discussed the doc needs; agreed that the API is simple enough (now) to not require automation for creating the docs. | 14:09 |
| edleafe | That's it. | 14:10 |
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| bauzas | reviews as well are appreciated. :) | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: so the reduced list will totally break the caching scheduler, I believe, we should catch up about that | 14:10 |
| mriedem | edleafe: oh that reminds me, | 14:10 |
| mriedem | we have a doc for placement API microversions now, like the compute REST API doc for microversions, the history doc | 14:10 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: I modified the spec, you can comment on that | 14:10 |
| mriedem | we should make sure microversion changes to the placement API are also updating that doc | 14:10 |
| edleafe | johnthetubaguy: the point is that we agreed to make it so the change doesn't affect the host list for CachingScheduler | 14:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | bauzas: yeah, I should go re-read that, by my eyes are so spec-ed out right now | 14:11 |
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| bauzas | we haven't yet provided a microversion for the placement API, right? | 14:11 |
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| edleafe | mriedem: ah, good point. I'll add it to the agenda for Monday | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: ah, yep, thats what I was remembering from that, all good | 14:11 |
| mriedem | bauzas: there are 2 changes up for microversions for placement | 14:11 |
| edleafe | to make sure everyone is aware | 14:11 |
| bauzas | anyway, we're diverging | 14:11 |
| mriedem | for aggregates and resource classes | 14:11 |
| bauzas | mriedem: cool, will dig into | 14:11 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so Live Migration? | 14:12 |
| mriedem | CI is in progress, also several patches for serial-console are on review | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think that was a short one? | 14:12 |
| mriedem | ^ is what tdurakov passed on | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | API | 14:13 |
| alex_xu | It is all about the priority task: the validation of query parameters. | 14:13 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/388518 | 14:13 |
| alex_xu | the base spec is merged | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | just got one half of that merged I think | 14:13 |
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| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/393205 | 14:13 |
| alex_xu | yea, ^ we need help on the second one | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | the second one could do with someone who is good at DB optimization | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | filters vs sorts and indexes | 14:13 |
| mriedem | that would be mr jay | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, we should ping him again | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | I tried to ask some folks on our side, will ping them again too | 14:14 |
| * alex_xu begin to hunt jay whole day | 14:14 | |
| alex_xu | johnthetubaguy: thanks | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | SR-IOV/PCI? | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | moshele? | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | Notifications? | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi? | 14:15 |
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| sfinucan | johnthetubaguy: I didn't attend, but there wasn't much on SR-IOV/PCI front | 14:15 |
| sfinucan | (having read the logs) | 14:15 |
| sfinucan | Mostly spec reviews and bug fixes | 14:16 |
| mriedem | for sriov | 14:16 |
| mriedem | moshele: wznoinsk: would like to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/182242/ in | 14:16 |
| mriedem | the spec i mean | 14:16 |
| moshele | yes | 14:16 |
| mriedem | the code is pretty self-contained, i looked at it yesterday, | 14:16 |
| mriedem | it's super nfv specific, single-tenant non-cloud | 14:16 |
| moshele | and there are 2 spec around NUMA | 14:16 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: there was a short notification meeting as nobody showed up | 14:16 |
| mriedem | but as long as the unicorn is confined to a small space in nova i'm less worried about it | 14:16 |
| sfinucan | mriedem: Yup, that spec + the two NUMA ones moshele refers to | 14:17 |
| sfinucan | all have code, iirc? | 14:17 |
| mriedem | so i agree to budge a bit on one thing and i'm hammered with 2 more?! | 14:17 |
| edleafe | mriedem: when will you ever learn? | 14:18 |
| sfinucan | ^ my thoughts exactly :) | 14:18 |
| mriedem | let's move on | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Open Discussion | 14:19 |
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| johnthetubaguy | there was nothing in the stuck list, so jumping on ward | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | (mriedem) What to do about file injection? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/107195.html | 14:19 |
| mriedem | yeah so not a lot of response there, | 14:19 |
| mriedem | except a confirmation that the localfs file injection code is a security issue, | 14:19 |
| mriedem | so i think we should deprecate it in ocata, remove in pike, | 14:20 |
| mriedem | the other questions are around what deprecating file injection in the API would look like, i've proposed what i think we'd do, | 14:20 |
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| johnthetubaguy | yeah, we keep forgetting to kill that thing | 14:20 |
| mriedem | i was looking to get some ops feedback but none came | 14:20 |
| johnthetubaguy | #action deprecate localfs file injection in ocata, remove in pike | 14:20 |
| mriedem | basically is there anything you can't do with config drive that you can with file injection? and if not, then we deprecate it in the API | 14:20 |
| lyarwood | mriedem: so I was trying to do the same with cryptsetup a while ago http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/106956.html | 14:20 |
| lyarwood | mriedem: nothing back from the ops list thus far | 14:21 |
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| mriedem | lyarwood: i'd hit up dane-ficther on that one | 14:21 |
| mriedem | or the other john hopkins people | 14:21 |
| bauzas | the security risk is much more important than any usecase that could be worked around using other ways | 14:21 |
| lyarwood | mriedem: ah good idea, thanks | 14:21 |
| bauzas | so I'm +2 on deprecating it, and discuss on the possible missing usecases afterwards | 14:22 |
| bauzas | but that should be something we haven't thought supporting | 14:22 |
| mriedem | ok | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | so the file injection can be safe, using config drive | 14:23 |
| mriedem | that's it from me | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | but it has all those issues with persistence you mentioned in your ML thread, which makes it trickier | 14:23 |
| mriedem | don't we migrate the config drive though? | 14:24 |
| mriedem | well, | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | not for evacuate | 14:24 |
| mriedem | right | 14:24 |
| mriedem | was just going to say that | 14:24 |
| bauzas | johnthetubaguy: we have a lot of things we can do with boot that we don't check again with any other move operation :) | 14:24 |
| mriedem | but, injected files are lost with evacuate regardless | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think some virt drivers do a recreate, but I am not 100% sure | 14:24 |
| bauzas | we *begin* to get the original request, but I don't think persisting the injected file is great | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am tempted to deprecate it in the API for everyone, or is that too harsh? | 14:25 |
| bauzas | unless I'm missing a specific usecase, I don't see what could be the value | 14:25 |
| bauzas | argh, I need to bail out | 14:25 |
| bauzas | back in 15/20 mins hopefully | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | seems like there are lots of ways of getting files in there via user data, that are more scalable | 14:25 |
| bauzas | zactly my pinty | 14:25 |
| bauzas | point | 14:25 |
| bauzas | and you can bootstrap some tool for doing config management | 14:26 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: yeah i think we can start working a spec for the deprecation in the api based on the ideas in the ML thread | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: yeah, thats the best approach | 14:26 |
| bauzas | anyway \o | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | so it seems no one else is speaking up for any more topics? | 14:26 |
| gibi | I have a question about the searchligth related notification bug priority | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | did you give them a bug tag right? | 14:26 |
| gibi | If I may | 14:26 |
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| gibi | jeah they are tagged | 14:27 |
| gibi | with searchlight | 14:27 |
| gibi | but these are not really bugs | 14:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | that are new notifications I guess? | 14:27 |
| gibi | as they don't talk of a functionality that was ever worked | 14:27 |
| gibi | those are additional fields for existing notifications | 14:27 |
| gibi | we will add them to the new versioned notifications but I feel that the transformation work has higher priority | 14:28 |
| mriedem | i think if we had a few that we wanted to lump into a single specless bp that's fine | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, that works | 14:28 |
| mriedem | i agree that this doesn't take priority over the transformation work | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | so longer term, they are important due to the cells v2 dependency | 14:28 |
| gibi | I can put togheter the bp to sum up the findings in the bug but I cannot promis to work on it in Ocata | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | I was going to talk to raj_singh about if any OSIC folks fancied working on those, given the longer term importance | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | but I know our place is getting quite full | 14:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | s/place/plate | 14:30 |
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| johnthetubaguy | cool, thats a good heads up | 14:30 |
| gibi | yeah, transformation work already producing a lot of patches to review | 14:30 |
| mriedem | i have to head out too | 14:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | any more for any more? | 14:30 |
| raj_singh | johnthetubaguy: Some folks already worked on it in Newton, I guess they can spare some cycles now | 14:30 |
| mriedem | but we know it's a thing, let's just get a bp for it | 14:30 |
| mriedem | and work it if we can | 14:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | raj_singh: exactly | 14:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: +1 | 14:30 |
| gibi | OK, I will create the BP | 14:30 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: feel free to pass that my way, and I can help approve that | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool, any more for any more? | 14:31 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: OK, thanks | 14:31 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #action gibi to write up spec less BP for the searchlight bugs | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool, thanks all | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | have 38 mins back | 14:31 |
| johnthetubaguy | #endmeeting | 14:32 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 17 14:32:01 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:32 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-11-17-14.00.html | 14:32 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-11-17-14.00.txt | 14:32 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-11-17-14.00.log.html | 14:32 |
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| armax | tic toc tic toc | 22:00 |
| kevinbenton | tick | 22:00 |
| kevinbenton | tock | 22:00 |
| kevinbenton | ^ | 22:00 |
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| armax | boom | 22:01 |
| boden | bang | 22:01 |
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| kevinbenton | <--------------> | 22:02 |
| armax | do we even have quorum to have a drivers meeting? | 22:02 |
| armax | I think it’s holiday where ihar lives | 22:02 |
| armax | amotoki is not around | 22:02 |
| * haleyb is more of a passenger | 22:02 | |
| armax | neither is amuller | 22:02 |
| kevinbenton | carl_baldwin has left us for greener pastures | 22:03 |
| kevinbenton | :'( | 22:03 |
| armax | and HenryG is following suit | 22:03 |
| haleyb | bluer pastures | 22:03 |
| kevinbenton | big blue pastures | 22:03 |
| armax | we’re in a bit of a pickle | 22:03 |
| armax | none of the driver team members, myself included has had the chance to go over the outstanding RFE pile, let alone open specs | 22:05 |
| johnsom | I'm here... (I know I don't count) | 22:05 |
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| armax | we’re flatlining | 22:05 |
| kevinbenton | armax: i went over some of the RFEs | 22:05 |
| johnsom | BTW, we restored https://review.openstack.org/#/c/313056/ and Doug is updating it | 22:05 |
| kevinbenton | armax: waiting to discuss them in a drivers meeting | 22:05 |
| armax | kevinbenton: did you comment on any? | 22:05 |
| armax | johnsom: yes, I just saw | 22:06 |
| kevinbenton | armax: yeah | 22:06 |
| ijw | If you need outside help for triage, I can help out this evening... | 22:06 |
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| armax | ijw: that would be great | 22:06 |
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| dougwig | o/ | 22:08 |
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| armax | oh well, let’s get the hour back, or what’s left of it | 22:08 |
| armax | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 22:08 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Nov 17 22:08:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:08 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 22:08 | |
| armax | lack of quorum | 22:08 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 22:08 |
| armax | #endmeeting | 22:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 22:08 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Nov 17 22:08:23 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:08 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-11-17-22.08.html | 22:08 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-11-17-22.08.txt | 22:08 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2016/neutron_drivers.2016-11-17-22.08.log.html | 22:08 |
| dougwig | armax, you have such long meetings. | 22:09 |
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| armax | that’s my style | 22:09 |
| johnsom | Talks to himself too | 22:09 |
| dougwig | comes with getting older | 22:10 |
| * armax is deaf | 22:10 | |
| armax | as old people usually are | 22:10 |
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