Thursday, 2016-11-17

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masahitoekcs: aimeeu: hi all00:01
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masahito#startmeeting congressteammeeting00:02
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masahitoramineni_: hi00:02
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masahitotoday's agenda:00:03
masahito1. PTG00:03
masahito2. status update00:03
masahitoanything else?00:03
ramineni_gate issues?00:03
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masahitoramineni_: ok00:04
ekcswe could talk about which patches we’re trying to merge for ocata-1 release.00:04
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masahitoekcs: got it.00:04
masahito3. gate issue00:05
masahito4. ocata-100:05
masahito#topic PTG00:05
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masahitowe needs to decide how many days we have in PTG.00:06
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masahitotwo days or three days00:06
aimeeuon the mailing list it sounded like the team was fine with 2 days00:07
ramineni_2 days would be good i guess00:08
masahitoit looks like most of us prefer 2 days meeting00:08
ekcs+1 (as in 2 days makes sense to me too; not as in 2 + 1 = 3)00:08
* aimeeu thanks ekcs for the explanation00:09
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masahitothinrichs also prefers 2 days in the mail00:10
masahitoso we choose 2 days session in PTG :-)00:10
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masahitomove on next.00:11
masahito#topic gate issue00:11
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masahitoekcs: ramineni_: sorry, I don't catch up recent gate issue. Could you tell us the current issue?00:13
ramineni_last week we were seeing multiple gate issues - 1.tempest variable deprecation 2. HA timeout 3. doctor tempest00:13
ramineni_i have submitted one patch
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ramineni_merged it , to actually clear the queue of our review.. hope change sounds good00:14
ramineni_still we are seeing occasional HA timeout though00:14
ekcsthanks ramineni_00:15
ekcsso that patch takes care of the deprecated variable.00:15
ekcscan you say a little bit about what the other changes do and why?00:15
masahitoramineni_: thanks.00:15
ramineni_ and HA timeput a lil bit00:15
ramineni_datasource sync period actually previously its not replaced .. 2 times its added in config file00:16
ekcsgot it.00:17
ramineni_so always the latest variable is datasource_sync_period= 3000:18
ekcsgood catch!00:18
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ramineni_and added  synchronize policies in get_status , to get the latest status in first iteration00:18
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masahitoso still remaining issues are 2 and 3?00:20
ramineni_masahito: 2 is partially fixed as we are able merge patches now.. 3 is still there00:20
masahitoramineni_: got it. I try to check 3.00:21
ramineni_i think ekcs raised bug for 3 , may be you could take a look at it00:21
masahitoyup. I think I should take care it.00:22
ramineni_masahito: ekcs: should we consider increasing build timout in gate job?00:22
ekcsgreat work resolving gate so we can merge patches!00:23
ekcsramineni_: I don’t have an opinion on that now. thoughts are: 1. does it happen a lot. 2. can we make things run faster.00:24
masahitoramineni_: any test hits timeout in gate?00:24
ekcsand I haven’t looked into it to have knowledge on those questions.00:24
ekcsramineni_ what do you think?00:25
ramineni_ekcs: masahito: ok, lets see for a week then .. if it happens a lot again, we can think about it then?00:25
masahitoramineni_: Agreed00:25
ekcssounds good.00:25
ekcsone more thing:00:25
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ekcson the synchronize policy, I wonder if there is another place to trigger the sync instead or another way to do it without having to sync on every get status.00:27
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ekcspeople may expect get status to be a fairly cheap read-only action. syncing all policies may be expensive.00:29
masahitoekcs: I think so.00:30
ramineni_ekcs: i tried syncing only one policy , but it didnt help HA .. as sometimes its a datasource policy00:31
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ramineni_ekcs: do you have anything on mind on where to place it?00:31
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ekcsgot it. i haven’t thought it all through, but perhaps trigger (rpc) the sync on change (adding/deleting policy; adding/deleting DS), rather than on read.00:32
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ramineni_ekcs: but that doesnt help if multiple peś are there?00:33
ramineni_ekcs: you mean broadcast?00:34
ekcsyea broadcast.00:34
ekcsanother thought is perhaps we don’t need to sync to memory to report status. maybe we just need to read the policy from DB to report status. with one status being the policy is in DB, but hasn’t been sync’ed to memory.00:34
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ekcsprobably something I need to think through more carefully after ocata-1.00:35
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ramineni_ok, sure, ya Iĺl also think about it00:36
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ekcsoh and since we’re on the subject, what about this other patch on ha test?00:36
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ekcsso primary sync period is left at 30s?00:37
ramineni_when i see the HA failure , timeout happens in the very initial stage itself, trying ti get status from primary itself00:37
ramineni_ya, primary sync happens at 30s as we set in devstack00:38
ekcsgot it.00:38
ekcsI don’t have anything else on gating.00:38
masahitook, move on next topic.00:39
masahito#topic ocata-1 release00:39
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masahitoto release ocata-1 we need to pick patches ready to merge the milestone.00:40
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ekcshere are the open patches:
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masahitoMy opinion is adding patches related to aodh datasource seems to be good.00:41
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ekcsagreed. maybe each of us with patches open can say which ones we want to merge before ocata-1?00:43
ekcsfor context, we pretty much need to merge things today to make it for ocata-1.00:43
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ekcsso essentially things that are ready and maybe just need a quick review.00:44
thinrichsSorry I'm late all.  Meeting in city ran later than expected00:45
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thinrichsMy 2 changes can go in.  They've been just waiting on gate.00:45
ekcshi thinrichs !00:45
masahitothinrichs: hi00:45
ramineni_ekcs: regarding
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ramineni_any idea why is it still throwing error00:47
ekcsramineni_: i looked into it some more.00:47
ekcsthe warning saying aodh not found happens only early in the test. I think it’s just because aodh wasn’t ready.00:48
ekcsmore example in the non-replicated tempest logs, the message doesn’t come up from 16:16 till the end (16:22+)00:49
ekcssimilar in the replicated pe test.00:49
ramineni_ekcs: oohk, then should be fine00:49
ekcsI think those patches should be mergeable today if looks fine to people. I’ll update it real quick to use info rather than debug as ramineni_ suggested.00:50
ramineni_ekcs: ok sounds good then00:51
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ekcsmasahito: what about this one?
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masahitooh. the bug was assigned to ocata-1.00:52
ekcs do you think we can/should merge it today?00:53
masahitoI think it's ready to ocata-1.00:53
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ekcsgreat! anything else for ocata-1?00:54
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ekcs#action Let's review these patches and try to merge them today if possible. (Not a big deal if some get delayed and miss ocata-1)00:55
masahitoekcs: thanks the link and wrap up.00:56
masahitolast 4 mins.00:56
masahito#topic open discussion00:56
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thinrichsQuick note: I attended the policy meeting this morning, where they're talking about the state of policy.json in OpenStack and whether we could improve it.00:57
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thinrichsGood attendance, over 10 people for sure00:57
masahitothinrichs: sounds big meeting.00:58
thinrichsLearning about congress is an action item for next week.00:58
ramineni_great :)00:58
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thinrichsDiscussion of having a backend (Apache fortress or similar) came up.  I suggested Congress00:58
thinrichsLearned something new about policy.json...00:59
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masahitooh, running out meeting time.01:00
masahitothanks all. let's review patches, and then good evening/morning/night!01:01
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openstackMinutes (text):
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thinrichseach service can push resource properties (like cpu/mem for compute instances) into oslo.policy so that people can write rules about those properties01:02
thinrichsNot much else to report there01:02
ekcsoh interesting.01:02
thinrichsOut of time.01:02
thinrichsTalk to you all later!01:02
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eumel8hi ianychoi07:01
katomohi ianychoi eumel807:01
eumel8hi katomo07:01
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ianychoihi katomo and eumel8 !07:02
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ianychoi#startmeeting OpenStack I18n meeting07:02
openstackMeeting started Thu Nov 17 07:02:48 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ianychoi. Information about MeetBot at
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting'07:02
ianychoiHi How are you all?07:03
ianychoiNice :)07:04
eumel8lots of work, daily business07:04
ianychoiMe too, and recently I am working on generating install-guide PDFs from rsts... it needs more work than I first expected..07:04
ianychoi#topic Review on last meeting actions07:05
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ianychoiThere were a few actions from the last meeting: ianychoi and eumel807:05
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ianychoieumel8, thanks a lot for attending the last infra team meeting!07:05
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ianychoiNumber 7 describes the conversation :)07:06
eumel8for me was attending the infra team meeting on Tuesday07:06
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eumel8we've got two volunteers to support the zanata server upgrade to xenial07:07
ianychoiI sent an e-mail to aeng the result, because Zanata team wants to know status07:07
ianychoieumel8, yep so nice :)07:07
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eumel8process looks good to me, but I was unsure if we want an upgrade or a complete new installation?07:08
ianychoiAnd for me, I have submitted feedback and sent a mail to Heidi copying to katomo :)07:08
ianychoiAlso, for i18n-spec use cases, I am writting it07:08
katomoI read it. thanks07:08
ianychoikatomo, np :)07:08
ianychoiThis is my initial commit for i18n-specs and I think we might polish a template: to make more appropriate into i18n team07:09
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eumel8very good, ianychoi07:12
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ianychoieumel8, thanks :) Any recommendations on use-cases?07:12
eumel8not yet07:12
ianychoiAnd please review eumel8 and katomo :)07:13
ianychoiI think I might need to send an e-mail for spec use-cases to current core reviewers and language coordinators..07:13
ianychoiThanks a lot!07:14
ianychoi#topic open discussions07:14
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ianychoiActually, I was busy on other work rather than i18n... but today I have fixed for i18n:
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katomogood finding. sorry for breakage Mitaka translation. fix release is undergoing.07:17
ianychoiFor this, it would be much better if more i18n members will share opinions07:17
ianychoikatomo, one more worse thing was that I reviewed the previous patch... I should have found the bug....07:17
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katomono worries07:18
ianychoikatomo, after fixing it, would you change to link Newton?07:18
ianychoiNewton install guides for Japanese07:18
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ianychoiI will take care of Korean version07:19
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ianychoikatomo, one question: for install-guides, just >75% for install-guides would be okay, or >75% for both install-guides and common would be needed?07:22
katomosystematically, no need07:22
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ianychoiHmm.. then the decision would be dependent to languages?07:22
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katomoalso, "common" for stable branch mainly contains "get started" content.07:23
katomotherefore, I myself don't think it is so important.07:23
ianychoiSince.. I think Chinese and French have good ratio for install-guides (>75) but more translation on common seems to be needed. If they want to publish install-guides, then I want to add translation jobs of install-guides for both two + other languages (I need to check ratio)07:24
ianychoieumel8, for German, 56.54% :)07:24
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katomoI see07:25
eumel8I know07:25
ianychoikatomo, sorry for lots of question.. :) But would you update progress for blueprints?
katomosorry, no progress.07:26
ianychoikatomo, that's fine. What I want to ask is that for example, -> I think all things were done, right?07:26
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katomoah, yep07:28
ianychoieumel8, you can +2 :)07:28
ianychoii18n-specs has the same previlege as openstack/i18n :)07:28
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eumel8too shy07:28
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ianychoihaha eumel8 is so expert on i18n with puppet :)07:29
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ianychoiHmm.. I think I need to triage bugs on openstack-i18n:
ianychoi#action ianychoi will triage bugs in openstack-i18n:
eumel8russian and chinese07:31
ianychoiYep on Barcelona Summit, I asked adiantum for defining bug management process for local languages with project contributors.07:32
ianychoiAfter i18n-spec is ready, I think I need to ask adiantum to write a simple spec :)07:33
ianychoiCurrently, I like this: uploading bugs into openstack-i18n07:33
ianychoiThanks to that, I now know that more local people are interested in i18n activities07:34
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eumel8yes, I tried always to collect more people to the team07:36
ianychoiThanks a lot :)07:37
ianychoiBy the way.. because it is just open discussion, have you seen this?07:37
ianychoiI have seen this article in Korean yesterday, and I thought that our activities will be easier thanks to AI :)07:38
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eumel8the next logical thing for machine learning07:39
ianychoiThe world is really changing.....07:39
ianychoieumel8, aha and how about translation checksite you think?07:40
eumel8maybe we can use this Google API sometimes in Zanata07:40
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eumel8translation checksite ... I don't know07:41
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eumel8have you talked to cloudnull last time?07:41
ianychoiHmm... current issue might be DevStack vs. ansible?07:41
eumel8yes, and ansible without container07:42
ianychoieumel8, I shared to you for the last talk with cloudnull about a week ago. Have you seen it?07:42
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ianychoiI asked cloudnull for performance and their opinion on difference between devstack and ansible07:43
eumel8when sent you the message?07:45
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ianychoiHmm... I don't know how I help for translation checksite. But at least revising from your draft on Etherpad may attract more members07:45
ianychoiAbout one week ago.. I will check it07:45
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jftaltaHi all07:47
ianychoijftalta, hi!07:47
katomoHi jftalta07:48
ianychoieumel8, (I have just copied)07:48
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jftaltaI am heading to office bu train. Internet connection is pretty bad07:48
ianychoijftalta, have you arrived at your office? :) Huk train... thanks for today participation!07:48
jftaltaNo, not yet.07:49
eumel8ianychoi: we have to think about it. It depends more on the infra team as on ansible.07:49
jftaltaHi eumel807:49
eumel8At the moment I would say, without container it makes no sence07:50
eumel8hi jftalta!07:50
eumel8I could test the horizon container installation from ansible on a plain ubuntu vm.07:51
ianychoieumel8, what I currently want is to just open horizon translation checksite around on the 2nd to 3rd week on the next January. I need to check schedule again, but since we have not enough time, I just want to deploy horizon with translation once07:52
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ianychoijust once. To collect feedback07:52
eumel8but then you have duplicated code if you need adjustments on the origin07:52
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ianychoieumel8, yep I completely agree with you07:52
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ianychoiBut.. hmm.. for Ocata, I am not sure whether container based approach will be successfully landed in next January or not.07:53
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ianychoiFor DevStack, I think I can ask just once to infra team members.. if they are willing to07:53
eumel8I think we have to start still with a work around07:53
eumel8not nice, I know07:53
ianychoiI prefer container approach :)07:53
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ianychoiBut.. I also want to have one translation checksite during Ocata cycle :)07:54
jftaltacontainer aoproach : +107:54
ianychoiThen.. how about just DevStack for next January and at the same time developing container-based approach?07:54
eumel8how often you want a upgrade of the site?07:55
ianychoiI hope that container-based approach will be successfully landed on P-cycle07:55
ianychoiFor Ocata cycle, it seems to be difficult... This is my current thinking just considering with timeline...07:55
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ianychoieumel8, for Ocata, I think just once around soft string freeze would be sufficient07:56
ianychoiIdeally, daily or weekly refresh07:56
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eumel8maybe the openstack-ansible team has also requirements for a test environment what we can also use in the future.07:56
ianychoieumel8, oh nice :)07:56
eumel8I mean NOT ideally :-))07:57
ianychoihaha okay. For this refresh period maybe we need to ask to language coordinators07:57
ianychoiFor me, just once per week is good07:57
eumel8but with one new installation around soft string we can deal with the infra team07:58
ianychoias far as i know, container based approach may prevent from lots of dealing with the infra team, right?07:58
eumel8weekly is not possible if you need the infra team personaly07:58
ianychoiI want a kind of automatic refresh mechanism.. but I am not sure07:59
eumel8I think it's caused for root access to the machine to enter the container07:59
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eumel8that was my understanding from my talk with pleia207:59
ianychoieumel8, maybe you will have root access for containers if it will be implemented07:59
eumel8we will see08:00
ianychoiHmm.. time is up08:00
eumel8time is over :)08:00
ianychoiLet's move to #openstack-i18n channel if we need to discuss more08:00
ianychoiThanks you all, eumel8 , katomo and jftalta !08:00
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katomoThanks, all!08:00
eumel8sorry, have to work08:00
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ianychoieumel8, would you come to #openstack-i18n channel?08:01
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gmann#startmeeting qa09:00
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gmann hello, who all here today?09:00
* andreaf o/ I'm only half here - ping me if you need me please :)09:00
DavidPurcellHere but barely awake09:01
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gmannmasayukig: DavidPurcell andreaf hi09:01
gmannandreaf: sure we need you always :)09:01
gmannlet's wait for few min in case more people join09:02
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gmanndmellado: oomichi : ?09:03
gmannok, let's start09:04
gmann^^ today agenda09:04
gmann#topic Ocata Priorities09:04
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gmann^^ this etherpad has all prioirty items we discussed in Barcelona09:04
gmannwe had most of them from O-209:05
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gmannfor me this one - Add an option for the number of target VMs to test live-migration09:05
gmanni might start this in next week may be09:06
gmannnot so hard so will be quick09:06
masayukigcool :)09:06
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gmanni also want to do at least 2 VM live migration on gate as default09:06
gmannif that is acceptable as live migration job seems not so stable :)09:07
gmannnext one - Remove deep test class Inheritance for easy debugging09:07
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gmannwe really need some progress in this but not sure whether it is started09:08
gmannekhugen, dmellado, jhakimra  ^^09:08
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gmannthis makes debugging easy and much cleanup09:09
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gmannfirst one  - Add an option for stopping cleanup when test failure happens09:09
gmanni did not see its sepc but we can wait on this09:09
gmanndpaterson, mkopec ^^09:10
gmannthose are one for Ocata as this is short cycle09:10
gmannanything else on this?09:10
DavidPurcellpolicy spec is waiting on 2nd +209:11
DavidPurcelland a few typo fixes...09:11
gmannDavidPurcell: cool, ll cover on spec topic09:11
gmann#topic Specs Reviews09:11
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DavidPurcellokay, sorry I went too early09:11
DavidPurcellthat's the one09:12
dmelladosorry I was late09:12
gmanndmellado: hi, no prob09:12
* masayukig waves to dmellado 09:12
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dmelladofrom my side and alongside mkoderer__09:13
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dmelladowe're cleaning up manila tempest plugin, which will need also some work on tempest.lib ;)09:13
gmannDavidPurcell: nice, i will check that may be tomorrow morning09:13
DavidPurcellgmann: Thanks!  It'd be great if we could get it merged by the end of the week :)09:13
andreafdmellado: let me know if you need anything on that :)09:14
gmannDavidPurcell: thanks for that09:14
dmelladoandreaf: o/ welcome back! sure, will do and I really appreciate it!09:14
gmannDavidPurcell: sure09:14
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gmanndmellado: work on tempest.lib you means credential classes you mentioned in summit?09:14
dmelladoyep, and also at some point I'd like to move some more stuff to tempest.lib09:15
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dmelladothinking about how to remove some dependencies first09:15
oomichigmann: hi, sorry for my late joining. The gate of airport took time for passing09:15
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dmelladosuch as manager and remote_client09:15
gmanndmellado: moving is always great but changing existnig one need backward compatibility manner09:15
gmannoomichi: i knew :)09:15
dmelladogmann: yep, I'm aware of it, that's why it's being tough!09:15
andreafdmellado: you mean scenario manager?09:15
gmanndmellado: yea09:15
dmelladoandreaf: hold on, I'll post the link to the etherpad where we're tracking this09:16
gmanndmellado: yea and paste here too09:16
dmelladogmann: andreaf
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andreafdmellado: cool thanks09:17
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gmanndmellado: thanks09:17
dmelladoandreaf: if you're 'back into business' I'll count you into that ;)09:18
gmanndmellado: so dynamic_credential is on the way to lib09:18
dmelladogmann: cool, that'd deff help too09:18
gmannor it is merged, cannot find patch from mtreinish09:18
andreafyes I have some time now for upstream work, so I'll start back on those topics09:19
gmanndmellado: anyays, if you need changes in that we can hold that before moving09:19
oomichiandreaf: cool, nice back :)09:19
gmannandreaf: great news.09:19
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dmelladogmann: I'll have to sync with mkoderer__ later this morning09:20
dmelladoI'll let you guys know if I need that after it, but thanks!09:20
gmannnext spec -
gmannso oomichi andreaf its all good it seems.09:20
gmanni will try to review by this week most09:20
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oomichigmann: thanks, yeah it is good spec nwo I feel09:21
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gmannoomichi: andreaf Thanks.. ll check for sure09:21
gmannother spec seems to be rebase09:21
gmannbut anything else anyone has on spec?09:22
gmann#topic Tempest09:22
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gmann^^ open reviews09:22
gmann1 thing i want masayukig to bring about new project he added in qa09:23
gmannmasayukig: ^^09:23
dmelladoyeah, I'll try to save some time to review those specs too09:23
gmanndmellado: cool. thanks09:23
masayukiggmann : coverage2sql?09:23
oomichiyeah, for unit tests coverage09:23
gmannmasayukig: yea09:23
masayukiggmann : I'll bring it in the open discussion, though :)09:24
gmannmasayukig: ok no prob09:24
dmelladoon tempest also, I'd like to propose a revert, I added you guys to a review to revert one change in ssh09:24
dmelladoas it's having issues with ssh on the ironic-inspector plugin09:25
dmelladodid you have the time to have a look?09:25
gmanndmellado: link?09:25
oomichidmellado: do you have a patch for that?09:25
dmelladoon it ;)09:25
gmanndmellado: this one? -
dmelladoyep, that one09:26
dmelladomy network was just being slow, thanks for that gmann09:26
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oomichithat seems puppet job fails, EmilienM needs to review it09:27
gmanndmellado: so what the issue there09:27
gmannno more info in commit message09:27
dmelladoI've found that without that revert and with the ironic-inspector plugin installed, tempest.scenario.test_security_groups_basic_ops.TestSecurityGroupsBasicOps.test_port_security_disable_security_group hangs forever09:27
dmelladoI'll take it over and add this information09:27
dmelladoyou can have a look at our related issue here, in any case09:28
dmellado bug 1394744 in openstack-tempest "TestSecurityGroupsBasicOps.test_port_security_disable_security_group test gets halted by giving request timed out." [Unspecified,New] - Assigned to dmellado09:28
gmanndmellado: humm, mainly `recv_exit_status` should be checked after reading09:28
dmelladoI've checked the bug that led to this issue, and I haven't been able to reproduce it in any case09:29
gmannoomichi: file not found on puppet failure09:29
gmannanyways ll check that09:29
oomichigmann: yeah, that seems another failure..09:30
gmannoomichi: hidden failure :)09:30
dmelladoin any case please do review it if you have the time, I'll add EmilienM too09:30
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oomichidmellado: ok, that is stared on my list09:30
gmannnext thing is baremetal  tests removal -
gmannoomichi: thanks09:30
gmannthis patch is much close, i have -1 for service availability of Ironic service which i feel should be in plugin side09:31
gmannnot in tempest.config.py09:31
gmannall other looks fine09:32
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gmannany more poitns on tempest side or we jump to bugs09:33
oomichigmann: yeah, basically these options would be on plugin side09:33
gmannBug Triage:  we discussd in barcelona that we will start triage rotation again same way we used to do before09:33
gmannoomichi: ops sorry09:33
oomichigmann: no problem,09:34
gmannoomichi: yea same way congress and ceilometer conrdinate09:34
oomichigmann: config is defined as stable interface also, so it is necessary to take deprecation time09:34
oomichiif you want to move them into plugin side09:34
gmannoomichi: i think no till those are register from plugin side09:34
gmannoomichi: becasue if plugin register those and we can access those same way from tempet config09:35
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gmannno user effect09:35
oomichigmann: true if no projects are using these options from outside09:36
gmanni mean user can still override moved config in tempest.conf09:36
gmannoomichi: but still other project can get from from tempest inport config right09:36
gmannoomichi: ahh you mean if anyone depends on tempest to register those?09:36
oomichigmann: yeah, if they can use other project as plugin correctly09:36
dmelladooomichi: by config do you mean that now plugins can import config from tempest.lib too?09:37
oomichigmann: yeah, that is just a small concern. but as you know, some projects are using the options wrongly as you are fixing09:37
gmannoomichi: but if we keep in tempest conf then plugin needs to wait till those get removed from tempest09:37
gmannoomichi: yea09:37
oomichigmann: I will check the other projects code later09:38
gmannoomichi: ok09:38
oomichidmellado: no, we are defining tempest.conf also as stable interface09:38
* oomichi sorry. my pc battery is super low now. will be off soon09:39
gmannoomichi: i got your concern as some of the network tests using baremtal driver enalbe or not09:39
dmelladooomichi: I see, wouldn't you have any link to that commit? I'll look for it otherwise09:39
gmannoomichi: no prob,09:39
gmannoomichi: have a safe flight back09:39
dmelladoouch! oomichi safe flight, didn't know you were at the airport ;)09:39
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dmelladothanks gmann09:39
masayukigsafe trip oomichi09:39
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gmannso on bug side09:40
gmannwe started triage rotation09:40
gmannin thsi etherpad09:40
gmannthis week rtoation was luzC09:40
gmannluzC: ^^09:41
masayukiggmann : I think it's me09:41
masayukigit's my turn09:41
gmannmasayukig: your is next week right09:41
* dmellado getting confused with the dates09:41
gmannmasayukig:  got it09:41
gmannmasayukig: sorry for mis undersatnding the dates09:42
gmannmasayukig: go ahead09:42
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masayukigso, I triaged around 10 bugs09:42
gmannmasayukig: nice09:43
masayukigso, now there's 25 new bugs09:43
gmannmasayukig: any critical one we should focus09:43
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gmannmasayukig: your patch got merged for graph thing?09:44
masayukignot yet... There're 3 critical bugs on launchpad..09:44
masayukigBut they are a little bit old..09:45
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gmannmasayukig: 2 are fix committed09:45
gmannmasayukig: and ssh one is yes old one09:45
masayukigyeah, and, I'm not sure this status
openstackLaunchpad bug 1298472 in tempest "SSHTimeout in tempest trying to verify that computes are actually functioning" [Critical,New] - Assigned to Matt Riedemann (mriedem)09:45
masayukigthat's it from my side09:46
gmannand about weekly bug report, i did not get much idea about how many triaged or new came up from this-
gmannmasayukig: should we start a etherpad where we can write weekly finding on bug triage liek we used to do previously09:47
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* oomichi is going back to get power09:47
dmellado+1 on that, I think it'd make things clearer09:47
dmelladooomichi: congrats on finding a power outlet!09:47
gmannok will check that09:48
masayukigwe can see the number from the json file, but the etherpad idea looks good to me :)09:48
oomichidmellado: thanks :)  congrats :)09:48
oomichiyeah, nice to share current status of bugs09:48
oomichiby the etherpad09:48
gmann#action gmann to check weekly bug triage report machenism (etherpad may be)09:48
gmannmasayukig: Thanks for that.09:48
masayukigfyi, curl | jq '.records[]["new"]'09:48
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masayukigsomething like thit09:49
gmannnext week seems skipped and then my turn09:49
gmannmasayukig: nice. ll check09:49
gmannso 10 min left09:49
gmannwe will skip devstack and grenade is nothing on those09:49
gmann#topic openstack-health09:50
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gmannmasayukig: ^^09:50
oomichigmann: it would be nice to describe a new way(maybe etherpad) on
gmanni saw you mapped all summit idea to bugs09:50
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* dmellado needs to rush to a meeting, o/ guys09:50
gmannoomichi: sure, ll do that09:50
masayukigactually, there's nothing about openstack-health specific things, but09:50
oomichigmann: cool, thanks09:50
masayukigI'm thinking about to add a graph from coverage2sql data09:51
gmannmasayukig: cool09:51
oomichimasayukig: cool, is that easy to do that?09:51
gmannmasayukig: ll get all coverage for all project UT ?09:51
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masayukigIt's the best if we can\09:52
masayukigbut, it's hard to do it09:52
masayukigAnd we need to collect coverage data like subunit2sql doing09:52
oomichimasayukig: is it hard because of much data?09:52
gmannyea, thats true09:52
masayukigyes, and a lot of projects aren't getting the data now,09:53
oomichimasayukig: ah, a nice point09:53
gmannmasayukig: ok, may be we can start with 6 core project and then others09:53
oomichigmann: oh, good idea09:54
masayukigand we may advertise it after that09:54
gmannit will incourage other projects09:54
oomichimasayukig: yeah, most projects tend to follow after core projects do09:54
gmann5 min left, sorry to jump further09:54
gmannmasayukig: thanks09:55
gmann#topic Critical Reviews09:55
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gmanni think we talked on critical reviews09:55
gmannbut if anyone want to bring up more please do it09:55
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oomichiyep, it is nice to move on09:55
gmann#topic Open Discussion09:56
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gmannanything more to discuss09:56
gmannmasayukig: you have one09:56
masayukiggmann : thanks09:56
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masayukigI added a new repo under QA
masayukig(I already mentioned, though)09:57
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masayukigIt's on very early stage,09:57
masayukigif someone is interested in, any feedbacks are welcome :)09:57
oomichioh, that is registered April, that is older than I expected09:58
gmannmasayukig: cool09:58
masayukigoomichi : heh09:58
masayukig"coverage2sql is a tool for storing data of test coverage into a SQL database."09:58
oomichimasayukig: do we have openstack repo already?09:58
masayukigoomichi : yup09:58
oomichimasayukig: oh, cool :)09:58
gmann1 min left09:59
DavidPurcellThis definitely looks cool.  AT&T is trying to get test  coverage up for a lot of services, I'll see if I can get some people to help out with it.  :)09:59
masayukigDavidPurcell : \o/09:59
gmannDavidPurcell: great09:59
oomichiDavidPurcell: awesome :)09:59
masayukigDavidPurcell : welcome!09:59
gmannlet's move to qa10:00
gmannthanks all10:00
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johnthetubaguy#startmeeting nova14:00
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openstackMeeting started Thu Nov 17 14:00:15 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova'14:00
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johnthetubaguyhello from your guest host for today14:00
* bauzas will have to bail out early by 1425UTC14:00
* mriedem lurks14:00
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johnthetubaguy#topic Release News14:01
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johnthetubaguy#link Ocata release schedule:
johnthetubaguy#info Today (11/17) is the o-1 milestone and spec approval freeze.14:01
johnthetubaguy#help Need to create the pike structure for the nova-specs repo so we can move specs that didn't get merged for ocata.14:01
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johnthetubaguyany volunteers for that?14:01
bauzasI can14:01
johnthetubaguy#action bauzas to help with pike structure14:01
johnthetubaguyany more for any more on the release details?14:02
johnthetubaguy#topic Bugs14:02
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johnthetubaguyno critical bugs listed right now14:02
johnthetubaguy#link check queue gate status
bauzasmriedem: lemme know when you want to cut o-114:02
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johnthetubaguy#link check queue gate status
johnthetubaguy#link 3rd party CI status
mriedembauzas: did it yesterday14:03
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bauzasmriedem: oh okay14:03
johnthetubaguy#info we cut o-114:04
bauzasI haven't reviewed the release notes, but that looks nice anyway14:04
johnthetubaguyso anything on bugs and gate status folks want to cover?14:04
johnthetubaguy#topic Reminders14:05
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johnthetubaguy#link Ocata review priorities
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johnthetubaguy#topic Stable branch status14:06
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mriedemgrenade job in stable/newton is broken by yours truly14:06
mriedemlyarwood has a fix up14:06
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bauzasmmmm, okay14:07
johnthetubaguyah, good call out14:07
bauzasI'll review the change14:07
bauzasso, xenial doesn't work with stable/newton ?14:07
lyarwoodfor the initial install14:08
mriedemgrenade on newton starts on mitaka14:08
mriedemit's weird14:08
bauzasoh snap, yeah14:08
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mriedemand mitaka is trusty14:08
mriedemnon-grenade on newton is xenial14:08
bauzasyeah, you're right, dudes14:08
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bauzasI forgot about that14:08
bauzasfor full grenade then14:08
bauzasbut okay, I see, +1d it14:09
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lyarwoodbauzas: thanks14:09
johnthetubaguycool, lets keep rolling forward then14:09
johnthetubaguy#topic Subteam Highlights14:09
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johnthetubaguyCells v2?14:09
mriedemthere was no meeting14:09
mriedemjust need reviews14:09
johnthetubaguyah, right14:09
edleafeClarified that there will be no impact to the CachingScheduler when we switch the FilterScheduler to get a reduced number of hosts from the Placement API.14:09
mriedemstarts here
edleafeAgreed that the *use* of CoreFilter, RAMFilter and DiskFilter will be deprecated, and not the filters themselves, as they are used by other schedulers.14:09
edleafeDiscussed the doc needs; agreed that the API is simple enough (now) to not require automation for creating the docs.14:09
edleafeThat's it.14:10
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bauzasreviews as well are appreciated. :)14:10
johnthetubaguyedleafe: so the reduced list will totally break the caching scheduler, I believe, we should catch up about that14:10
mriedemedleafe: oh that reminds me,14:10
mriedemwe have a doc for placement API microversions now, like the compute REST API doc for microversions, the history doc14:10
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: I modified the spec, you can comment on that14:10
mriedemwe should make sure microversion changes to the placement API are also updating that doc14:10
edleafejohnthetubaguy: the point is that we agreed to make it so the change doesn't affect the host list for CachingScheduler14:10
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johnthetubaguybauzas: yeah, I should go re-read that, by my eyes are so spec-ed out right now14:11
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bauzaswe haven't yet provided a microversion for the placement API, right?14:11
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edleafemriedem: ah, good point. I'll add it to the agenda for Monday14:11
johnthetubaguyedleafe: ah, yep, thats what I was remembering from that, all good14:11
mriedembauzas: there are 2 changes up for microversions for placement14:11
edleafeto make sure everyone is aware14:11
bauzasanyway, we're diverging14:11
mriedemfor aggregates and resource classes14:11
bauzasmriedem: cool, will dig into14:11
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johnthetubaguyso Live Migration?14:12
mriedemCI is in progress, also several patches for serial-console are on review14:12
johnthetubaguyI think that was a short one?14:12
mriedem^ is what tdurakov passed on14:12
alex_xuIt is all about the priority task: the validation of query parameters.14:13
alex_xuthe base spec is merged14:13
johnthetubaguyjust got one half of that merged I think14:13
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alex_xuyea, ^ we need help on the second one14:13
johnthetubaguythe second one could do with someone who is good at DB optimization14:13
johnthetubaguyfilters vs sorts and indexes14:13
mriedemthat would be mr jay14:14
johnthetubaguyyeah, we should ping him again14:14
johnthetubaguyI tried to ask some folks on our side, will ping them again too14:14
* alex_xu begin to hunt jay whole day14:14
alex_xujohnthetubaguy: thanks14:14
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sfinucanjohnthetubaguy: I didn't attend, but there wasn't much on SR-IOV/PCI front14:15
sfinucan(having read the logs)14:15
sfinucanMostly spec reviews and bug fixes14:16
mriedemfor sriov14:16
mriedemmoshele: wznoinsk: would like to get in14:16
mriedemthe spec i mean14:16
mriedemthe code is pretty self-contained, i looked at it yesterday,14:16
mriedemit's super nfv specific, single-tenant non-cloud14:16
mosheleand there are 2 spec around  NUMA14:16
gibijohnthetubaguy: there was a short notification meeting as nobody showed up14:16
mriedembut as long as the unicorn is confined to a small space in nova i'm less worried about it14:16
sfinucanmriedem: Yup, that spec + the two NUMA ones moshele refers to14:17
sfinucanall have code, iirc?14:17
mriedemso i agree to budge a bit on one thing and i'm hammered with 2 more?!14:17
edleafemriedem:  when will you ever learn?14:18
sfinucan^ my thoughts exactly :)14:18
mriedemlet's move on14:19
johnthetubaguy#topic Open Discussion14:19
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johnthetubaguythere was nothing in the stuck list, so jumping on ward14:19
johnthetubaguy(mriedem) What to do about file injection?
mriedemyeah so not a lot of response there,14:19
mriedemexcept a confirmation that the localfs file injection code is a security issue,14:19
mriedemso i think we should deprecate it in ocata, remove in pike,14:20
mriedemthe other questions are around what deprecating file injection in the API would look like, i've proposed what i think we'd do,14:20
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johnthetubaguyyeah, we keep forgetting to kill that thing14:20
mriedemi was looking to get some ops feedback but none came14:20
johnthetubaguy#action deprecate localfs file injection in ocata, remove in pike14:20
mriedembasically is there anything you can't do with config drive that you can with file injection? and if not, then we deprecate it in the API14:20
lyarwoodmriedem: so I was trying to do the same with cryptsetup a while ago
lyarwoodmriedem: nothing back from the ops list thus far14:21
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mriedemlyarwood: i'd hit up dane-ficther on that one14:21
mriedemor the other john hopkins people14:21
bauzasthe security risk is much more important than any usecase that could be worked around using other ways14:21
lyarwoodmriedem: ah good idea, thanks14:21
bauzasso I'm +2 on deprecating it, and discuss on the possible missing usecases afterwards14:22
bauzasbut that should be something we haven't thought supporting14:22
johnthetubaguyso the file injection can be safe, using config drive14:23
mriedemthat's it from me14:23
johnthetubaguybut it has all those issues with persistence you mentioned in your ML thread, which makes it trickier14:23
mriedemdon't we migrate the config drive though?14:24
johnthetubaguynot for evacuate14:24
mriedemwas just going to say that14:24
bauzasjohnthetubaguy: we have a lot of things we can do with boot that we don't check again with any other move operation :)14:24
mriedembut, injected files are lost with evacuate regardless14:24
johnthetubaguyI think some virt drivers do a recreate, but I am not 100% sure14:24
bauzaswe *begin* to get the original request, but I don't think persisting the injected file is great14:24
johnthetubaguyI am tempted to deprecate it in the API for everyone, or is that too harsh?14:25
bauzasunless I'm missing a specific usecase, I don't see what could be the value14:25
bauzasargh, I need to bail out14:25
bauzasback in 15/20 mins hopefully14:25
johnthetubaguyseems like there are lots of ways of getting files in there via user data, that are more scalable14:25
bauzaszactly my pinty14:25
bauzasand you can bootstrap some tool for doing config management14:26
mriedemjohnthetubaguy: yeah i think we can start working a spec for the deprecation in the api based on the ideas in the ML thread14:26
johnthetubaguymriedem: yeah, thats the best approach14:26
bauzasanyway \o14:26
johnthetubaguyso it seems no one else is speaking up for any more topics?14:26
gibiI have a question about the searchligth related notification bug priority14:26
johnthetubaguydid you give them a bug tag right?14:26
gibiIf I may14:26
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gibijeah they are tagged14:27
gibiwith searchlight14:27
gibibut these are not really bugs14:27
johnthetubaguythat are new notifications I guess?14:27
gibias they don't talk of a functionality that was ever worked14:27
gibithose are additional fields for existing notifications14:27
gibiwe will add them to the new versioned notifications but I feel that the transformation work has higher priority14:28
mriedemi think if we had a few that we wanted to lump into a single specless bp that's fine14:28
johnthetubaguyyeah, that works14:28
mriedemi agree that this doesn't take priority over the transformation work14:28
johnthetubaguyso longer term, they are important due to the cells v2 dependency14:28
gibiI can put togheter the bp to sum up the findings in the bug but I cannot promis to work on it in Ocata14:29
johnthetubaguyI was going to talk to raj_singh about if any OSIC folks fancied working on those, given the longer term importance14:29
johnthetubaguybut I know our place is getting quite full14:30
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johnthetubaguycool, thats a good heads up14:30
gibiyeah, transformation work already producing a lot of patches to review14:30
mriedemi have to head out too14:30
johnthetubaguyany more for any more?14:30
raj_singhjohnthetubaguy: Some folks already worked on it in Newton, I guess they can spare some cycles now14:30
mriedembut we know it's a thing, let's just get a bp for it14:30
mriedemand work it if we can14:30
johnthetubaguyraj_singh: exactly14:30
johnthetubaguymriedem: +114:30
gibiOK, I will create the BP14:30
johnthetubaguygibi: feel free to pass that my way, and I can help approve that14:31
johnthetubaguycool, any more for any more?14:31
gibijohnthetubaguy: OK, thanks14:31
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johnthetubaguy#action gibi to write up spec less BP for the searchlight bugs14:31
johnthetubaguycool, thanks all14:31
johnthetubaguyhave 38 mins back14:31
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loopbackwhen's the next meeting?17:35
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russellbanyone here to discuss networking-ovn?18:00
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ttxSpamapS: meeting ?19:15
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armaxtic toc tic toc22:00
kevinbenton    ^22:00
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armaxdo we even have quorum to have a drivers meeting?22:02
armaxI think it’s holiday where ihar lives22:02
armaxamotoki is not around22:02
* haleyb is more of a passenger22:02
armaxneither is amuller22:02
kevinbentoncarl_baldwin has left us for greener pastures22:03
armaxand HenryG is following suit22:03
haleybbluer pastures22:03
kevinbentonbig blue pastures22:03
armaxwe’re in a bit of a pickle22:03
armaxnone of the driver team members, myself included has had the chance to go over the outstanding RFE pile, let alone open specs22:05
johnsomI'm here...  (I know I don't count)22:05
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armaxwe’re flatlining22:05
kevinbentonarmax: i went over some of the RFEs22:05
johnsomBTW, we restored and Doug is updating it22:05
kevinbentonarmax: waiting to discuss them in a drivers meeting22:05
armaxkevinbenton: did you comment on any?22:05
armaxjohnsom: yes, I just saw22:06
kevinbentonarmax: yeah22:06
ijwIf you need outside help for triage, I can help out this evening...22:06
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armaxijw: that would be great22:06
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armaxoh well, let’s get the hour back, or what’s left of it22:08
armax#startmeeting neutron_drivers22:08
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armaxlack of quorum22:08
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dougwigarmax, you have such long meetings.22:09
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armaxthat’s my style22:09
johnsomTalks to himself too22:09
dougwigcomes with getting older22:10
* armax is deaf22:10
armaxas old people usually are22:10
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carl_baldwinkevinbenton: greener? We'll see. Not sure yet.22:29
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