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| zioproto | oneswig: meeting in 1 minute, right ? | 09:00 |
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| oneswig | less than that now - ready set | 09:00 |
| oneswig | #startmeeting scientific_wg | 09:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 7 09:00:22 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: scientific_wg)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_wg' | 09:00 |
| oneswig | Greetings! | 09:00 |
| priteau | Good morning | 09:00 |
| verdurin | Morning. | 09:00 |
| oneswig | hi priteau zioproto verdurin | 09:00 |
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| zioproto | hello all | 09:00 |
| oneswig | Blair here? | 09:01 |
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| dariov | Hello! | 09:01 |
| oneswig | Hi dariov | 09:01 |
| dariov | hi oneswig! | 09:01 |
| stevejims | Morning | 09:01 |
| sorrison_ | I'm here (Sam NeCTAR) blair should be, he got me along | 09:01 |
| oneswig | #link today's agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_working_group#IRC_Meeting_December_7th_2016 | 09:01 |
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| oneswig | Hi stevejims sorrison_ | 09:01 |
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| b1airo | o/ | 09:03 |
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| oneswig | #chair b1airo | 09:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo oneswig | 09:03 |
| oneswig | Hi b1airo | 09:03 |
| b1airo | g'day oneswig | 09:03 |
| oneswig | OK - today's agenda was for monitoring, telemetry, tracing and so on | 09:03 |
| oneswig | #topic Monitoring - following on from last week | 09:03 |
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| oneswig | #link Here's the etherpad https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/scientific-wg-telemetry-and-monitoring | 09:04 |
| b1airo | fyi - things still a bit rowdy in my house so if i go quiet it's because a child needs rounding up | 09:04 |
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| oneswig | no problem! Calmer here - kids have gone to school. Any rowdiness is my own | 09:04 |
| dariov | lol | 09:05 |
| b1airo | looks like sorrison_ has joined us..? | 09:05 |
| sorrison_ | yip I'm here | 09:05 |
| oneswig | This etherpad was gathered together last week, it would be great to flesh it out with more use cases and experiences | 09:05 |
| b1airo | oneswig, do we want this to be use-cases that are specifically different from just general IaaS cloud metrics ? | 09:06 |
| priteau | Can we add links to solutions that we haven't used but are relevant? For example for alerting in OpenStack there is Aodh | 09:07 |
| oneswig | I think it makes most sense to focus on our specific use cases, but to focus exclusively on those doesn't make sense - prioritise those use cases but take all into account | 09:07 |
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| sorrison_ | just read the etherpad, surprised ELK wasn't mentioned | 09:08 |
| oneswig | priteau: please do | 09:08 |
| dariov | is this meant for HPC-like deployments only, or for general stuff? | 09:08 |
| zioproto | priteau: what is Aodh ? link ? | 09:08 |
| zioproto | found https://github.com/openstack/aodh | 09:08 |
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| b1airo | yeah i suppose ELK can do almost real time monitoring and alerting sorrison_ | 09:09 |
| priteau | #link Aodh: Provide alarms and notifications based on metrics http://docs.openstack.org/developer/aodh/ | 09:09 |
| oneswig | dariov: both I think - using the general to enable the specific ideally | 09:09 |
| sorrison_ | Ceilometer alarms was ripped out into it's own project | 09:09 |
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| b1airo | depends what you push into it | 09:09 |
| dariov | oneswig, cool, thanks | 09:09 |
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| oneswig | sorrison_ b1airo: how much of Ceilometer is used if you use Gnocchi for telemetry, and how does it function for you at nectar? | 09:09 |
| priteau | #link Full set of Telemetry services in OpenStack https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Telemetry#Services | 09:10 |
| priteau | I didn't know about Panko | 09:10 |
| sorrison_ | oneswig we use the ceilometer compute agents to collect the data | 09:10 |
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| zioproto | There is one thing that is not clear to me. Why we think Telemetry and Monitoring is a use case specific to research computing and not a general use case of large installations ? | 09:10 |
| verdurin | Isn't there a wider question of the extent to which we can reuse existing monitoring, for non-OpenStack resources? | 09:10 |
| sorrison_ | and use agent-notification and collector to then send it to gnocchi | 09:10 |
| b1airo | sorrison_, you actually made a diagram of our ceilometer -> gnocchi pipeline didn't you? | 09:11 |
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| oneswig | zioproto: I see additional use cases - added a section for covering that | 09:11 |
| sorrison_ | the ceilometer-api is deprecated | 09:11 |
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| b1airo | or was that just on the whiteboard at some point? | 09:11 |
| sorrison_ | hmm yeah I'll try find it | 09:11 |
| b1airo | the other thing i think oneswig was particularly interested in was using influx with gnocchi | 09:12 |
| b1airo | i wasn't sure what the state of your resurrection work was...? | 09:12 |
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| sorrison_ | It's at https://wiki.rc.nectar.org.au/images/a/a2/Ceilometer.png | 09:12 |
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| priteau | I heard some bad experiences with influx (data corruption) | 09:12 |
| oneswig | Can we add these details to the etherpad? | 09:13 |
| sorrison_ | The influxDB driver for gnocchi is now passing all tests. So it is ready for review https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390260/ | 09:13 |
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| sorrison_ | priteau what version of influx? | 09:13 |
| oneswig | priteau: what were the reproducer conditions? | 09:13 |
| sorrison_ | I would consider anything less than 1.1.0 as unusable at scale | 09:13 |
| priteau | sorrison_: I don't know, just random tweets here and there | 09:13 |
| priteau | not very scientific of me ;-) | 09:13 |
| verdurin | Isn't the problem with InfluxDB that clustering isn't open source anymore? | 09:13 |
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| sorrison_ | gossip! | 09:13 |
| b1airo | can anyone else access that image or should i stick it in a paste somewhere? | 09:14 |
| priteau | I found the most recent tweet I saw, it was using 0.13 | 09:14 |
| sorrison_ | yeah not sure, does it need login? | 09:14 |
| oneswig | I saw it - had no idea IRC client could do that... | 09:14 |
| b1airo | lol | 09:14 |
| priteau | https://twitter.com/punkgode/status/804852123544461312 | 09:14 |
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| oneswig | That's only 4 days ago | 09:15 |
| sorrison_ | The one thing about that diagram that will change is that ceilometer-api will be replaced by panko | 09:15 |
| b1airo | ah yeah it is publicly accessible, was able to wget it | 09:15 |
| b1airo | oneswig, depends on the irc client i guess - mine didn't display anything | 09:15 |
| sorrison_ | yeah they using an old version of influxDB | 09:15 |
| b1airo | and there is an open-source clustering option isn't there sorrison_ ? | 09:18 |
| verdurin | b1airo: there is for the older versions | 09:18 |
| sorrison_ | there is an open source relay so you can run multiple influxes | 09:19 |
| priteau | Documentation for 1.1 says: "Open-source InfluxDB does not support clustering. For high availability or horizontal scaling of InfluxDB, please investigate our commercial clustered offering, InfluxEnterprise." | 09:19 |
| oneswig | sorrison_: at what scale of metric throughput is clustering needed/advised, or is it purely for HA? | 09:19 |
| priteau | https://docs.influxdata.com/influxdb/v1.1/high_availability/clusters/ | 09:19 |
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| verdurin | The relay is purely for HA, I believe. | 09:19 |
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| sorrison_ | I think clustering would only be for redundancy | 09:19 |
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| sorrison_ | and you can get HA with the relay. The catch is it doesn't auto heal you are basically paying for the auto heal | 09:20 |
| sorrison_ | you can manually heal without too much drama | 09:20 |
| oneswig | OK thanks sorrison_ - do you use particular hardware for influx, and what throughput can it sustain? | 09:20 |
| sorrison_ | we are pumping in around 30k points/second at peak on 1 server | 09:20 |
| sorrison_ | that's ceilometer data from about 1000 compute nodes | 09:21 |
| priteau | how much storage does this consume per day? | 09:21 |
| dariov | about to ask the same :-) | 09:21 |
| oneswig | That's not hugely taxing then for influx I guess | 09:21 |
| sorrison_ | we currently have 51G of data and that is from 2 months | 09:22 |
| sorrison_ | na influx host is hardly doing a thing | 09:22 |
| sorrison_ | load average of about 1.5 | 09:22 |
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| verdurin | sorrison_: the influx host is SSD-backed, yes? | 09:22 |
| oneswig | sorrison_: Is that from a single OpenStack instance or are you able to operate a single monitoring infrastructure for multiple deployments? | 09:22 |
| b1airo | presumably that is largely dependent on the retention and aggregation policy | 09:22 |
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| sorrison_ | it's a physical host with 8 slow disks in raid 10 | 09:23 |
| sorrison_ | we going to move it to an SSD host soon | 09:23 |
| verdurin | b1airo: yes, those are what make the big difference for Influx storage requirements | 09:23 |
| sorrison_ | yeah depends on granularity and retention of data | 09:23 |
| oneswig | sorrison_: what time series data gets collected in this deployment? | 09:25 |
| sorrison_ | we are collecting all the standard ceilometer data | 09:25 |
| sorrison_ | we are also generating our own stats for reporting, eg number of instances, number boots per day etc. | 09:26 |
| oneswig | that amounts to libvirt stats, right? Does it also gather hardware monitoring & network data? | 09:26 |
| dave_____ | (just ducking in between meetings, we are about to set up monitoring on our new production deployment so I will read the logs later for ideas/best practice etc - thanks) | 09:26 |
| sorrison_ | yeah libvirt stats | 09:26 |
| sorrison_ | plus network interfaces and disk interfaces | 09:26 |
| oneswig | We'll try to make it an interesting read dave_____ :-) | 09:27 |
| b1airo | think those come care of libvirt anyway right? | 09:27 |
| b1airo | do we have hypervisor stats going in? | 09:27 |
| sorrison_ | this may render ugly but this is what gets collected on an instance | 09:27 |
| dave_____ | oneswig: I only have one entertaining(?) nugget in that we already accidentally knocked over our metrics server by pointing 540 OSD's worth of Ceph metrics at it too often | 09:27 |
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| b1airo | yeah that could do it | 09:28 |
| oneswig | sorrison_: how extensible is it for data collection - what would I need to do to collect random things? | 09:28 |
| sorrison_ | metrics we gather on an instance http://paste.openstack.org/show/591620/ | 09:28 |
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| oneswig | dave_____: what were you doing with the metrics from all your other OSDs? :-) | 09:28 |
| sorrison_ | it's really extensible. You can create your own resource types | 09:28 |
| sorrison_ | eg. we created a resource type called "Institution" which has attributes of State, Location etc. | 09:29 |
| sorrison_ | then add metrics on an instance like number of instance etc. | 09:29 |
| dave_____ | oneswig: :-) heh but all the disk I/O figures every 5 seconds probably was overkill (until/unless we have something with anomaly detection that can look at all the data which no human is going to look at) | 09:29 |
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| oneswig | dave_____ raises an interesting example - what would I need to do to add monitoring of (say) smartmon data for disks in a hypervisor or a ceph node? | 09:30 |
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| oneswig | I'm interested in monitoring the physical in the same context as the virtual metrics - wonder if it can do that | 09:31 |
| sorrison_ | there are a couple of ways to do it, it would be nice if you could use something like collectd to push data into the ceilometer pipeline and then it would just appear in gnocchi | 09:32 |
| sorrison_ | there is ipmi plugins for ceiloimeter to monitor hypervisors and the likes | 09:32 |
| sorrison_ | haven't used that yet, I think thats designed to work with ironic | 09:33 |
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| dave_____ | sorrison_: do you know if those plugins play nicely with ironic? or do they fight over the ipmi? | 09:33 |
| oneswig | sorrison_: I think it's groundwork yet to be built on, from what I know | 09:33 |
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| sorrison_ | yeah not sure, I just saw some ipmi stuff in the ceilometer codebase | 09:33 |
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| dave_____ | ok, I didn't know they existed, I will check them out, thanks | 09:34 |
| verdurin | sorrison_: you can certainly push into influx with collectd, which according to your diagram could then end up in gnocchi? | 09:34 |
| sorrison_ | no you'd need to push to gnocchi | 09:34 |
| oneswig | ... but would gnocchi know about telemetry data that didn't arrive through it | 09:34 |
| sorrison_ | no it wouldn't | 09:34 |
| verdurin | Oh well, thought it was too good to be true | 09:35 |
| sorrison_ | it's stored in influx with the metric ID as a tag which is a gnocchi ID | 09:35 |
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| b1airo | https://github.com/jd/collectd-gnocchi | 09:35 |
| b1airo | for example | 09:35 |
| sorrison_ | I guess if you knew how gnocchi stored stuff you could by pass it | 09:35 |
| sorrison_ | ah nice b1airo | 09:35 |
| oneswig | sorrison_: have you extended ceilometer/gnocchi to collect anything else on your deployment? | 09:36 |
| b1airo | we should totally do that for nectar swift | 09:36 |
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| sorrison_ | oneswig we have written some custom collection for stuff. It used to use graphite and I converted it to use gnocchi https://github.com/NeCTAR-RC/nectar-metrics/blob/master/nectar_metrics/senders/gnocchi.py | 09:37 |
| oneswig | ruddy hell Blair that repo is brand new, how did you find it? :-) | 09:37 |
| dariov | sorrison_, there’s a public document somewhere describing this architecture you guys built for monitoring? I think it would be a good read for our openstack guys | 09:37 |
| sorrison_ | dariov, I posted the link above somewhere | 09:38 |
| b1airo | dariov, did you see the link earlier? | 09:38 |
| verdurin | dariov: https://wiki.rc.nectar.org.au/images/a/a2/Ceilometer.png | 09:38 |
| dariov | do you mean the image? I was hoping for some written text :-) | 09:38 |
| dariov | yeah, saw that one already | 09:39 |
| b1airo | this is your chance to get it! ;-) | 09:39 |
| dariov | yeah ;-) | 09:39 |
| oneswig | So does ceilometer really use the notifications bus for sending metrics? | 09:39 |
| b1airo | i probably have to pay him in beer on friday | 09:39 |
| sorrison_ | oneswig yes | 09:39 |
| oneswig | strewth | 09:39 |
| sorrison_ | oneswig there was talk about getting rid of the ceilometer collection parts and just using something like collectd | 09:40 |
| b1airo | rmq is quiet without ceilometer though, i think ours would get bored | 09:40 |
| sorrison_ | collectd-gnocchi may be a first step | 09:40 |
| oneswig | So every metric ceilometer sends is a json object - does it support bulk transfers? | 09:40 |
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| sorrison_ | yes there are settings in ceilometer for batching things | 09:41 |
| sorrison_ | and you can also batch send metrics to gnocchi | 09:41 |
| oneswig | b1airo: rmq activity/events is one of the things we want to monitor! | 09:42 |
| b1airo | the snake is eating itself! | 09:42 |
| oneswig | ah, what was that tail-eating snake from last week? | 09:42 |
| b1airo | bindo | 09:42 |
| oneswig | snap :-) | 09:42 |
| b1airo | *bingo | 09:42 |
| sorrison_ | ceilometer http POST to gnocchi | 09:42 |
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| oneswig | Sounds like Ceilometer is good for monitoring usage but not for troubleshooting - I guess that's it's billing heritage? | 09:43 |
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| sorrison_ | oneswig yeah agree | 09:43 |
| verdurin | I would say Ceilometer is becoming just about acceptable for monitoring | 09:43 |
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| oneswig | We've been looking at Monasca, which is slightly more decoupled but still has a dependency on functioning keystone | 09:44 |
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| oneswig | Influx is a contender here also | 09:45 |
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| sorrison_ | monasca uses influx? | 09:45 |
| oneswig | Can do - or vertica, or...? | 09:45 |
| oneswig | Looking at other options | 09:45 |
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| verdurin | One of the Summit talks mentioned WhisperDB, when looking for alternatives to Influx | 09:46 |
| oneswig | One of the questions we currently have is how Monasca is extended to collect other metrics. | 09:46 |
| verdurin | http://graphite.readthedocs.io/en/latest/whisper.html | 09:46 |
| dave_____ | (and off to my next meeting...) | 09:46 |
| oneswig | verdurin: not heard of that, thanks | 09:46 |
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| oneswig | I think we are interested in Monasca for slurping user performance trace data alongside system performance metrics, and somehow coherently presenting the whole thing mashed up together | 09:47 |
| verdurin | Mashed-up slurp. | 09:47 |
| oneswig | which is where the scientific compute angle creeps in | 09:48 |
| oneswig | verdurin: I know, what else is there for breakfast? | 09:48 |
| oneswig | The current test case is using Monasca to catch rabbit cluster fragmentation, which happens for us and we need to isolate why | 09:49 |
| oneswig | If it can do that, it's a contender | 09:49 |
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| sorrison_ | oneswig fragmentation = partitioning? | 09:49 |
| oneswig | ah yes, woolly terminology | 09:49 |
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| oneswig | so we have 3 controllers, nominally HA, but sometimes one leaves the cluster - but nobody else notices | 09:50 |
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| oneswig | so it goes wrong and monitoring is not seeing it | 09:50 |
| oneswig | Saw some talks last week where this came up as their #1 gripe too | 09:50 |
| sorrison_ | nagios plugin that runs rabbitmqctl cluster_status would fix that for you | 09:50 |
| sorrison_ | we set ours to auto heal | 09:51 |
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| oneswig | sorrison_: it would find it, but I'm suspicious of why it's happening | 09:51 |
| sorrison_ | with openstack having rabbit up is more important that dropping messages when deciding who is master | 09:51 |
| oneswig | which is why I'd like to see it coupled with (say) MLAG events from the network | 09:51 |
| sorrison_ | ok makes sense | 09:51 |
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| oneswig | zioproto: what do you use at SWITCH? | 09:52 |
| priteau | oneswig: only a few minutes left, can we talk about traces quickly? | 09:52 |
| oneswig | priteau: sorry - please do - take the floor! | 09:52 |
| b1airo | thanks priteau - i wasn't watching the time either | 09:52 |
| priteau | sorry for interrupting | 09:53 |
| priteau | so we have an interest in getting the OpenStack community to share workload traces from their own clouds | 09:53 |
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| zioproto | oneswig: we dont have Ceilometer in production | 09:53 |
| zioproto | we use Nagios for a lot of alarm monitoring | 09:53 |
| priteau | for scientific research purposes, e.g. people developing new VM scheduling algorithms | 09:53 |
| zioproto | and we have collectd with graphite | 09:53 |
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| priteau | I have started to review existing (non-OpenStack) work | 09:54 |
| oneswig | priteau: can you define the data you would like collecting? | 09:54 |
| priteau | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Cloud_workload_traces | 09:54 |
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| priteau | oneswig: yes, that's the next action item for me | 09:54 |
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| oneswig | I saw some examples which were pretty basic - create vm xxx, etc | 09:54 |
| priteau | One of the questions I have to answer is for VM lifecycle, whether the nova SQL table is enough, or if we need nova-scheduler logs | 09:55 |
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| oneswig | Is it specifically about infrastructure events, or things like SLURM events? | 09:55 |
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| priteau | I think SLURM events would be be more relevant to existing parallel workload traces | 09:56 |
| oneswig | I saw some interesting links from that etherpad - https://alexpucher.com/blog/2015/06/29/cloud-traces-and-production-workloads-for-your-research/ - follow a few links at the bottom of the post | 09:56 |
| b1airo | priteau, the SQL table won't give us enough unless we are capturing transitions via triggers or something | 09:57 |
| oneswig | I saw this one https://alexpucher.com/blog/2015/07/20/cloud-simulators-for-reasearch-and-development/ and wondered if there is a way to faithfully create the stimulus of a large number of compute hypervisors for a test control plane | 09:57 |
| priteau | b1airo: what do you call transitions? | 09:57 |
| sorrison_ | you could use the notifications that are emitted | 09:57 |
| sorrison_ | eg. instance.start, instance.end | 09:57 |
| b1airo | i thought it would also be the initial api calls, e.g., boot | 09:58 |
| sorrison_ | these events are actually stored in panko | 09:58 |
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| oneswig | sorrison_: great point - distill those into something generic, that's the data - I've heard it can be tricky to link the notifications back to an originating API call though - have you seen that done? | 09:59 |
| sorrison_ | when you say link it back to the api call what does that mean? what data needs to be link? | 10:00 |
| priteau | b1airo: depends what you want to do with the data. A more fine grained gathering of events would allow you to measure how long a VM takes to get created | 10:00 |
| oneswig | Ah, reconstructing a hierarchy of notifications from a single API call | 10:00 |
| sorrison_ | yeah you can do that with ceilometer | 10:00 |
| oneswig | across services | 10:00 |
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| oneswig | we are out of time all. Last words! | 10:00 |
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| sorrison_ | eg. you get a notification when instance create starts and ends, plus a bunch along the way | 10:00 |
| priteau | It is interesting but not exactly what I had in mind, at least for the scheduling research use case, it's really the creation / deletion events that matter | 10:00 |
| priteau | sorrison_: there is also nova.instance_actions | 10:01 |
| priteau | in SQL | 10:01 |
| sorrison_ | that's exactly what the notifications do | 10:01 |
| oneswig | time up, gotta close | 10:01 |
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| oneswig | #endmeeting | 10:01 |
| sorrison_ | there is a notification for pretty much everything | 10:01 |
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| b1airo | priteau, true - i guess i was thinking most scheduling research would want trace data of real IaaS requests, but that they wouldn't necessarily be that interested in how existing OpenStack handles those to finally launch or error a guest instance/s | 10:01 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 7 10:01:29 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_wg/2016/scientific_wg.2016-12-07-09.00.html | 10:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_wg/2016/scientific_wg.2016-12-07-09.00.txt | 10:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_wg/2016/scientific_wg.2016-12-07-09.00.log.html | 10:01 |
| priteau | anyway, I will continue iterating on the etherpad, please contribute if you're interested | 10:01 |
| oneswig | Thanks all, very helpful! | 10:01 |
| zioproto | thanks all | 10:01 |
| sorrison_ | ok cool, thanks | 10:01 |
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| b1airo | thanks for joining sorrison_ ! | 10:02 |
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| oneswig | great job sorrison_ | 10:02 |
| priteau | thanks everyone | 10:02 |
| verdurin | thanks | 10:02 |
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| RongHui11 | hello | 12:55 |
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| RongHui11 | ? | 12:57 |
| joehuang | hello | 12:58 |
| zhiyuan | hi | 12:58 |
| RongHui11 | hi | 12:58 |
| WuCheng | hi | 12:58 |
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| Yipei | hello | 12:59 |
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| qwebirc70038 | hi | 12:59 |
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| joehuang | hi, qwebirc70038, who are you? | 13:00 |
| joehuang | #startmeeting tricircle | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 7 13:00:26 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is joehuang. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tricircle' | 13:00 |
| longxiongqiu | hi | 13:00 |
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| joehuang | #topic rollcall | 13:00 |
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| joehuang | #info joehuang | 13:01 |
| RongHui11 | #info ronghui | 13:01 |
| dongfeng | #info dongfeng | 13:01 |
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| yinxiulin | #info xiulin | 13:01 |
| longxiongqiu | #info longxiongqiu | 13:01 |
| Yipei | #info Yipei | 13:01 |
| JunSik | #info junsik | 13:01 |
| zhiyuan | #info zhiyuan | 13:01 |
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| joehuang | #topic Bug smash and meetup summary | 13:02 |
| WuCheng | #info WuCheng | 13:02 |
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| liukun | #info | 13:02 |
| liukun | hi | 13:02 |
| joehuang | last week, one bugsmash was held in Shenzhen,China, many of us met in this event | 13:02 |
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| joehuang | and about 7 bugs fixed in the bugsmash | 13:03 |
| hejiawei | #info jiawei | 13:03 |
| RongHui11 | cool | 13:03 |
| joehuang | and dongfeng found one "high" bug, the most valuable bug in the bugsmash | 13:03 |
| joehuang | #info 7 bugs fixed with one "high" bug | 13:04 |
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| joehuang | and also many new contributors or want to become contributors from the bugsmash | 13:04 |
| joehuang | this is a great event | 13:04 |
| zhiyuan | great!! | 13:05 |
| joehuang | do you have other information to share | 13:05 |
| joehuang | for those who attended the bugsmash | 13:05 |
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| hejiawei | for me,I merge a bug,other bug need review | 13:06 |
| joehuang | yes, will review that | 13:06 |
| hejiawei | sorry another | 13:06 |
| joehuang | Ruijing has raised one patch for vagrant way of installation for tricircle | 13:07 |
| zhiyuan | i was working on the resource deletion patch during the event, the patch has just been submitted | 13:07 |
| joehuang | but it's still in review process. | 13:07 |
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| joehuang | to Zhiyuan, this is one "critical" bug but relative tough to fix :) | 13:08 |
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| zhiyuan | yeah, i spent most one week to find and fix all the problems :( | 13:09 |
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| joehuang | ok, look forward meeting in next bugsmash | 13:09 |
| joehuang | #topic Ocata feature development review | 13:09 |
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| joehuang | let's have a short review on feature implementation, please introduce your feature progress shortly | 13:10 |
| joehuang | and discuss as needed | 13:10 |
| dongfeng | the documentation for resource routing api has been finished. now I am changing the ID of resource table from integer to biginteger. | 13:11 |
| zhiyuan | spec and implementation for bridge network combination blueprint have been submitted, i mark the implementation as [WIP] since we need to merge the spec first | 13:11 |
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| joehuang | to Dongfeng, also need to add release notes for resource routing api | 13:12 |
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| yinxiulin | I am doing the network update operation, now can update network's name and description. | 13:12 |
| zhiyuan | i found py27 test failed for the implementation, i will check it out tomorrow | 13:12 |
| longxiongqiu | i am working for qos implementation, and most code have done, and next step is test | 13:12 |
| joehuang | Sean has introduced how to write release notes | 13:12 |
| dongfeng | ok, i will add the releasenote. | 13:12 |
| RongHui11 | i was still working on the configuration guide and fix one bug in the README.rst . If it necessary i will try to update the user guide | 13:13 |
| joehuang | #action add release notes for resource routing api | 13:13 |
| zhiyuan | oh, patch for configuration guide is also under review | 13:13 |
| joehuang | to ZHiyuan, for the spec, I think we need more broad review, so let's wait some time | 13:13 |
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| zhiyuan | to joe, that's fine | 13:13 |
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| joehuang | will also discuss in OPNFV whether the networking can meet the geo-redundancy application requirement | 13:14 |
| dongfeng | inn face, i don't know how to write releasenote, could you be more detailed? | 13:14 |
| dongfeng | sorry, "in fact" | 13:14 |
| joehuang | to Xiongqiu, you seems to speed up the implementation, that's good | 13:14 |
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| joehuang | to Dongfeng, Yipei may help, he was in the meeting that time | 13:15 |
| zhiyuan | since shared-vxlan networking is not ready to implement, i can continue to work on some improvement patches | 13:15 |
| dongfeng | ok. | 13:15 |
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| joehuang | to Xiongqiu, you need to register a blueprint | 13:15 |
| joehuang | and submit a spec for the QOS | 13:15 |
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| Yipei | @dongfeng, I will send you some links about relasenote offline | 13:15 |
| Yipei | already ran LBaaS in devstack, plan to write spec file of LBaaS. Detailed content still need to be discussed with you guys. | 13:15 |
| longxiongqiu | ok | 13:16 |
| longxiongqiu | i will | 13:16 |
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| dongfeng | ok, thanks | 13:16 |
| joehuang | Good, Yipei | 13:16 |
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| joehuang | To ronghui, the configruation guide should be aligned with the installation guide | 13:16 |
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| joehuang | for the configuration guide mostly will be used after installation | 13:16 |
| RongHui11 | ok | 13:17 |
| joehuang | to Ronghui, the manual installation guide patch submitted by Zhiyuan | 13:17 |
| joehuang | #action a BP and spec are needed for QOS | 13:17 |
| RongHui11 | i see this patch and try it | 13:18 |
| liuzeyu | #info liuzeyu | 13:18 |
| joehuang | #info configuration guide needs to align with the manual installation guide | 13:18 |
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| RongHui11 | got it | 13:19 |
| joehuang | Glad to know that more and more features are on the way :) | 13:20 |
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| longxiongqiu | :) | 13:21 |
| joehuang | #topic legacy tables clean after splitting | 13:21 |
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| joehuang | I contacted Dongfeng yesterday about the legacy tables clean | 13:21 |
| RongHui11 | and for the trio2o we also working on the synchronize for some patch | 13:21 |
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| joehuang | Dongfeng, could you provide the link for the tables cleaning | 13:22 |
| dongfeng | the synchronize for some | 13:22 |
| dongfeng | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/TricircleTableCleanAfterSplitting | 13:22 |
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| dongfeng | I listed some tables that no longer use. | 13:23 |
| joehuang | good, let's look at the table list | 13:23 |
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| RongHui11 | It list all the table? or just list need to clean right now? | 13:26 |
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| joehuang | identify these which needs to clean, and which to reserve | 13:28 |
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| zhiyuan | i add one point in the etherpad | 13:31 |
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| joehuang | have seen that, yes the routing api no need to check the binding | 13:33 |
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| dongfeng | ok. the api and relevant test cases need modify to adapt this deletion. | 13:34 |
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| joehuang | yes, agree | 13:35 |
| joehuang | otherwiese relevant test cases will be failed | 13:36 |
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| joehuang | hello | 13:45 |
| zhiyuan | hi i am back | 13:45 |
| joehuang | so please dongfeng to submit a blueprint and spec for the tables clean | 13:45 |
| joehuang | #action BP/spec for tables cleaning | 13:45 |
| dongfeng | ok, i have submit it. but it need further modifying. | 13:46 |
| joehuang | #topic open discussion | 13:46 |
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| joehuang | any other topic to be discussed | 13:46 |
| zhiyuan | no from me | 13:47 |
| RongHui11 | no | 13:47 |
| dongfeng | for me, i have submitted the blueprint for table clean, but what's the spec? | 13:47 |
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| yinxiulin | no | 13:48 |
| Yipei | @dongfeng, i will help you offline, i used to submit one | 13:48 |
| dongfeng | ok, thanks. | 13:48 |
| joehuang | thanks to yipei | 13:48 |
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| dongfeng | no more for me. | 13:49 |
| RongHui11 | no more for me | 13:49 |
| Yipei | no for me | 13:49 |
| joehuang | ok, let's end the meeting | 13:49 |
| joehuang | #endmeeting | 13:49 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 7 13:49:38 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-12-07-13.00.html | 13:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-12-07-13.00.txt | 13:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-12-07-13.00.log.html | 13:49 |
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| Menthos | #startmeeting massively_distributed_clouds | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 7 15:00:09 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is Menthos. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: massively_distributed_clouds)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'massively_distributed_clouds' | 15:00 |
| Menthos | Hi guys. | 15:00 |
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| rcherrueau | o/ | 15:00 |
| HeleneCoullon | Hi | 15:00 |
| denaitre | hi | 15:00 |
| ansmith | o/ | 15:01 |
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| mabderrahim | o/ | 15:01 |
| kgiusti | o/ | 15:01 |
| Menthos | I am chairing this session as our beloved ad_rien is travelling today | 15:01 |
| Menthos | May I ask who's online? | 15:02 |
| Menthos | Should we wait one more minute? | 15:02 |
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| Menthos | Can you please add your names to the pad? Line 80 | 15:03 |
| Menthos | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/massively_distributed_ircmeetings_2016 | 15:03 |
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| Menthos | Ok so I guess we can start :-) | 15:04 |
| Menthos | #topic Glossary: define missing key terms | 15:04 |
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| Menthos | If you look at the pad, line 94, you will see a list of missing terms from the glossary | 15:05 |
| Menthos | From the terms we defined last week, only region is already in the glossary | 15:05 |
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| Menthos | It would be interesting if everyone tried to add their own definitions to the pad (lines 95-99) so we can agree on definitions that suit everybody | 15:06 |
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| Menthos | ansmith: what do you do think of these definition at redhat? (e.g. site) | 15:09 |
| ansmith | will take action to look for definitions if they exist here at rh | 15:10 |
| Menthos | #action ansmith look for definitions at redhat | 15:10 |
| Menthos | thanks ansmith | 15:10 |
| Menthos | mabderrahim: what about Orange? I feel like a telco vision would be different from redhat for example | 15:11 |
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| Menthos | Ok I think we can leave this for now and advance on the definitions offline | 15:12 |
| mabderrahim | I am trying to formulate a definition of the backbone | 15:12 |
| Menthos | mabderrahim: thanks :-) | 15:12 |
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| mabderrahim | welcom :) | 15:12 |
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| Menthos | So maybe we can move on to the next topic | 15:13 |
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| Menthos | And hopefully by the next meeting we will have this glossary all filled up with our massively distributed verbiage | 15:14 |
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| Menthos | #topic Define deployment scenarios | 15:14 |
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| Menthos | So ad_rien created the following document | 15:15 |
| Menthos | #link https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1jJFZejZqgYDxu5FX4K8g3I5zQ87afnjYI4VSRSuCQ6U/edit?usp=sharing | 15:15 |
| ansmith | very nice doc | 15:15 |
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| Menthos | The idea is to describe the possible scenarios for massively distributed clouds | 15:15 |
| Menthos | Maybe we will not agree on everything, so please put your own :-) | 15:16 |
| Menthos | Then there is the special case of cells… | 15:16 |
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| Menthos | Well, the first deployment is when everything is centralized but the compute nodes. | 15:17 |
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| Menthos | The control nodes and the compute nodes are connected with a WAN | 15:17 |
| Menthos | Then we are having trouble defining what is a typical cell deployment | 15:17 |
| Menthos | ansmith: thanks for you question about abstracting rabbitmq. Actually we have the same question | 15:19 |
| Menthos | And I think you are right, we should probably replace rabbitmq with AMQP in the diagram | 15:19 |
| ansmith | I would not suggest replacing with AMQP but rather oslo.messaging | 15:20 |
| Menthos | Okay :-) | 15:20 |
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| ansmith | then as we distinguish RPC from notification interactions we can then analyze across the backend types | 15:20 |
| ansmith | kgiusti: do you agree? | 15:21 |
| kgiusti | ansmith: yes | 15:21 |
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| Menthos | ansmith: can you ellaborate? | 15:21 |
| ansmith | and does it make sense to show that oslo.messaging is present at all the sites? | 15:21 |
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| Menthos | Oh I see | 15:22 |
| Menthos | We only considered the server, but not the agents | 15:22 |
| ansmith | yes | 15:22 |
| Menthos | We should add them | 15:22 |
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| ansmith | as the openstack services get deployed across the different scenarios, there may be implications on the messaging patterns | 15:23 |
| msimonin | Hi guys ! | 15:24 |
| Menthos | kgiusti: would Qpid change this picture? | 15:25 |
| kgiusti | I don't think so - not at this level of detail. | 15:26 |
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| kgiusti | ansmith: do you agree? | 15:26 |
| ansmith | agree, doesnt change things at the scenario level but when we go to the next level down | 15:26 |
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| Menthos | Good | 15:27 |
| ansmith | the differences of broker-backed, brokerless models will show up | 15:27 |
| Menthos | What about cells? | 15:27 |
| Menthos | (slide 3) | 15:27 |
| ansmith | e.g. latency, bandwidth, etc. | 15:27 |
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| kgiusti | ansmith: right - with 'oslo.messaging' we have several messaging backend deployment options: brokered, zmq, routed, even kafka | 15:27 |
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| Menthos | kgiusti: agreed | 15:29 |
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| rcherrueau | I have a question on slide 2: If I understand correctly, in the site 0 the AMQP box represents the AMQP bus server. The idea then is that you used oslo.messaging to deliver and get messages on this bus. So my question is, does this architecture is still correct if you go with qpid | 15:30 |
| kgiusti | rcherrueau: just to be specific: there is a qpidd broker and there is a qpid router. In the qpidd case, the arch would be the same. | 15:31 |
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| kgiusti | rcherrueau: in the routed case we would need both a broker (for notifications) and routers for the RPC traffic | 15:32 |
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| rcherrueau | kgiusti: ok thank you for the clarification | 15:32 |
| ansmith | sugest that AMQP be depicted as oslo.mesaging on slide 2, site 0 | 15:32 |
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| ansmith | as that is the "service" in the scenario | 15:32 |
| kgiusti | rcherrueau: in that case a single broker on site 0 would probably be the case, but for rpc we'd want a router co-located at each site | 15:32 |
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| Menthos | Alright | 15:34 |
| kgiusti | in general - at this level are we making a specific choice regarding the actual messaging bus used (rabbitmq, qpidd, router)? I don't think we're there yet. | 15:34 |
| Menthos | kgiusti: I agree − we should have the most amqp-agnostic design as possible at this point | 15:34 |
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| Menthos | Can we have a look at slide 3? | 15:35 |
| kgiusti | so using 'oslo.messaging' at each site allows a 'placeholder' for each type of messaging system we want to evaluate | 15:35 |
| kgiusti | Menthos: +1 | 15:35 |
| Menthos | And cells :-) | 15:35 |
| Menthos | This one is really hard IMO | 15:35 |
| msimonin | kgiusti: agreed about oslo.messaging | 15:35 |
| Menthos | We tried to come up with a design, but we tend to think that cells, as a nova feature, do precisely define what happens to the other services | 15:36 |
| Menthos | do not* | 15:36 |
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| Menthos | So the question is: where would we put glance? And neutron server? | 15:37 |
| Menthos | Are they shared? | 15:37 |
| Menthos | Or is there one per cell? | 15:37 |
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| Menthos | No cell power users here? | 15:38 |
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| Menthos | Or any remark on the other scenarios? | 15:40 |
| Menthos | Between slides 4 and 5, the difference is where we should put glance | 15:41 |
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| Menthos | Either centralized at the top site, or distributed in every site | 15:42 |
| Menthos | Any opinion on that? | 15:42 |
| msimonin | I would say they are both possible | 15:42 |
| msimonin | :) | 15:42 |
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| Menthos | But what would be the impact/the best for a particular use-case? | 15:43 |
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| Menthos | mabderrahim: I'm sure Orange as an opininon on that, at least from the network perspective | 15:44 |
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| Menthos | But time is running out, so I'll put an action | 15:44 |
| Menthos | And we can discuss it next time | 15:44 |
| Menthos | #action Define the design (slide) for a cell-based scenario, and describe the impact of the placement of glance | 15:45 |
| Menthos | #topic Expected capabilities and features for massively distributed clouds | 15:45 |
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| Menthos | So what features/capability should be expect at the site/region level? | 15:46 |
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| Menthos | (Imagine we have defined site and region :-)) | 15:46 |
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| Menthos | For example on VM migration: is this something you would expect? In this case the network functionalities will need to adapt | 15:48 |
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| msimonin | Maybe we can start by asking | 15:49 |
| msimonin | Why do we need VM migrations ? | 15:49 |
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| Menthos | Balancing the load between sites, maintainance… | 15:49 |
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| Menthos | Actually it probably depends on 1) the size of the sites and 2) the mobile-edge use-case | 15:50 |
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| Menthos | Again, I am summoning our telco friends :-) | 15:50 |
| msimonin | :) | 15:50 |
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| Menthos | mabderrahim: ? | 15:50 |
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| mabderrahim | I that we can consider the performances offered by each site as a positve factor | 15:51 |
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| mabderrahim | and the transmission time between the site as a negative factor | 15:51 |
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| mabderrahim | To evaluate the transmission time accurately | 15:52 |
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| mabderrahim | we may include the bandwith and the latency of the link | 15:52 |
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| mabderrahim | There is also the distance between the sites that we may consider | 15:53 |
| Menthos | Okay | 15:53 |
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| Menthos | Maybe it's time to move to open discussion? | 15:53 |
| Menthos | #topic Open discussion | 15:53 |
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| Menthos | Is there something you would like to address in less than 6 minutes? | 15:54 |
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| msimonin | mabderrahim: are you giving criterias to take into account while making the decision to migrate ? | 15:54 |
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| Menthos | Has anyone looked at the kingbird project? | 15:56 |
| Menthos | #link https://github.com/openstack/kingbird/ | 15:56 |
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| msimonin | what is it ? :) | 15:56 |
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| Menthos | Centralized management for distributed deployment | 15:56 |
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| Menthos | From what I understand, a answer to questions like "how many instances do I have" in the context of muli-regions | 15:57 |
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| Menthos | (Still a hard question in cells v2, I think) | 15:57 |
| msimonin | hum I see | 15:57 |
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| ansmith | Kingbird is a part of the OPNVF Multisite project | 15:57 |
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| ansmith | there are a number of OPNVF projects that may relate to discussions here | 15:58 |
| Menthos | seems like it | 15:58 |
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| mabderrahim | I think before migrating the service we should calcuate the time of the interruption of the service, the load in the hostinig site | 15:58 |
| msimonin | sure | 15:58 |
| msimonin | mabderrahim: ack | 15:58 |
| mabderrahim | the congestion of the network | 15:58 |
| mabderrahim | betwenn both sites | 15:59 |
| Menthos | I am sorry but it will be time to close very soon :-) | 15:59 |
| msimonin | We should discuss use cases where migration are mandatory | 15:59 |
| Menthos | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
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| msimonin | and what to migrate | 15:59 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 7 15:59:22 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
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| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/massively_distributed_clouds/2016/massively_distributed_clouds.2016-12-07-15.00.html | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/massively_distributed_clouds/2016/massively_distributed_clouds.2016-12-07-15.00.txt | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/massively_distributed_clouds/2016/massively_distributed_clouds.2016-12-07-15.00.log.html | 15:59 |
| mabderrahim | yes | 15:59 |
| Menthos | Thanks for attending | 15:59 |
| msimonin | (next time) | 15:59 |
| msimonin | @mabderrahim | 15:59 |
| mabderrahim | (yes) | 15:59 |
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| smcginnis | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 7 16:00:29 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
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| bswartz | .o/ | 16:00 |
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| smcginnis | ping dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind jbernard _alastor_ bluex patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino yuriy_n17 karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor baumann rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell stevemar watanabe.isao,tommylike.hu mdovgal ildikov | 16:00 |
| Cibo | hello | 16:00 |
| scottda | hi | 16:00 |
| erlon-airlong | hey | 16:00 |
| tommylikehu_ | hello | 16:00 |
| xyang1 | hi | 16:00 |
| mdovgal | Hello | 16:00 |
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| viks | hi all | 16:00 |
| mtanino | hi/ | 16:01 |
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| jungleboyj | o/ | 16:01 |
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| bswartz | smcginnis:biggest ping ever! | 16:01 |
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| smcginnis | :) | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | #topic Announcements | 16:01 |
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| e0ne | hi | 16:01 |
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| smcginnis | O-2 is next week. | 16:01 |
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| smcginnis | Let's make sure we get feedback to the new drivers. There are a few that are very close. | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | And a few that are not. | 16:02 |
| * DuncanT wakes up | 16:02 | |
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| smcginnis | DuncanT: Isn't it the afternoon there? | 16:02 |
| DuncanT | smcginnis: Yup | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:02 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking Review focus | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | Also have a few things we should get in ASAP from our priority list there. ^ | 16:03 |
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| smcginnis | So we can have as much run time as possible before the freeze. | 16:03 |
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| mars | hi | 16:03 |
| tbarron | hi | 16:03 |
| markstur | hi | 16:03 |
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| erlon-airlong | smcginnis: Im missing reviews in the NFS Snapshot | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | OK, that's all I have for announcements I guess. Let's move on. | 16:03 |
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| smcginnis | erlon-airlong: OK, I'll get that on my list. Would like to see that move along. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | #topic Running Bandit in gate as non-voting | 16:04 |
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| smcginnis | xyang1: Hey | 16:04 |
| erlon-airlong | jungleboyj: Jay if you can put that in yours too | 16:04 |
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| xyang1 | jessegler: hi, you want to talk about this? | 16:04 |
| jessegler | Yeah! | 16:04 |
| xyang1 | jessegler: go ahead:) | 16:04 |
| erlon-airlong | smcginnis: thanks! | 16:05 |
| jessegler | So a few of us were wondering why Bandit isn't running as part of the gate? | 16:05 |
| jessegler | I heard people had maybe tried that before, but I'm not sure what became of that effort? | 16:05 |
| xyang1 | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Security/Projects/Bandit | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | jessegler: Last time I looked at it (which I admit is a while now) there were just way too many false alerts. | 16:05 |
| DuncanT | Yeah, it was full of noise and no useful signal at all | 16:05 |
| e0ne | xyang1: in general, I like this idea | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | I love the concept, but it needs some work before it's anything but noise at this point. | 16:06 |
| e0ne | xyang1: but now it reports too many errors | 16:06 |
| xyang1 | jessegler: have you got feedback from other projects who run it in the gate? | 16:06 |
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| xyang1 | jessegler: is it reliably for Keystone? | 16:06 |
| xyang1 | xyang1::( | 16:06 |
| jessegler | I know keystone does, I can follow up with them | 16:07 |
| xyang1 | e0ne: :( | 16:07 |
| tbarron | in barcelona security meeting on vulnerability assessment bandit was recommended, have we given them this feedback? | 16:07 |
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| e0ne | Total issues (by confidence)High: 149 | 16:07 |
| erlon-airlong | xyang1: what storage BE it uses? | 16:07 |
| e0ne | Total issues (by severity): High: 21 | 16:07 |
| e0ne | it doesn't looks good | 16:07 |
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| dstanek | yeah, i believe we run it as a gate check in keystone | 16:08 |
| e0ne | can we configure it and/or fix at least high priority errors? | 16:08 |
| xyang1 | erlon-airlong: tox -e bandit | 16:08 |
| xyang1 | e0ne: you mean ignore medium errors? | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | We should review them again in Cinder. But I tried to clean up the errors in the past and they were all false positives. | 16:08 |
| dstanek | keystone runs bandit as a part of its pep8 checks | 16:08 |
| erlon-airlong | xyang1: hmm, ok, it does not run the full devstack harnness | 16:08 |
| e0ne | xyang1: I mean we have to fix high priority first | 16:09 |
| jgriffith_away | smcginnis: +1 false positives was the problem I had | 16:09 |
| xyang1 | e0ne: sure | 16:09 |
| jgriffith_away | I'm not away | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith_away: Sure you are. | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:09 |
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| jgriffith | :) | 16:09 |
| e0ne | jgriffith_away: are you sure? :) | 16:09 |
| xyang1 | :) | 16:09 |
| jgriffith | jessegler: have you receieved any feedback from others about false positives? | 16:10 |
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| jessegler | I haven't had the chance to talk to too many people about it | 16:11 |
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| xyang1 | jessegler: I'll say get some feedback from other teams such as Keystone. ask if they have problems with false positives | 16:11 |
| Swanson | hi | 16:11 |
| erlon-airlong | Swanson: late | 16:11 |
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| erlon-airlong | Swanson: :) | 16:12 |
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| jessegler | Will do! | 16:12 |
| xyang1 | jessegler: great, thanks | 16:12 |
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| smcginnis | jessegler: I would love to get to the point where we can use that and rely on the results to catch issues. | 16:12 |
| erlon-airlong | smcginnis: xyang1: can I get a ride in the jobs ' topic? | 16:13 |
| xyang1 | jessegler: also can you bring this up at the security meeting? ask if they hear about false positives? | 16:13 |
| jessegler | Yeah, me too | 16:13 |
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| jessegler | Yeah | 16:13 |
| xyang1 | erlon-airlong: go ahead | 16:13 |
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| erlon-airlong | I was planning and dulek mentioned about make the lvm-multibackend job as -nv | 16:14 |
| erlon-airlong | it is pretty stable in the runs I did | 16:14 |
| xyang1 | jessegler: are you all set? | 16:14 |
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| smcginnis | erlon-airlong: If it's pretty stable, that would be good. | 16:14 |
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| erlon-airlong | and will test the basic migration cases as the migration tests land | 16:14 |
| erlon-airlong | smcginnis: nive, Ill send a patch later | 16:14 |
| jessegler | Yep | 16:15 |
| e0ne | what does 'it its pretty stable' mean? do we have any numbers? | 16:15 |
| erlon-airlong | nice | 16:15 |
| xyang1 | jessegler: great! once you get more feedback from others, we can talk here with the cinder team again | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | xyang1, jessegler: +1 | 16:15 |
| xyang1 | smcginnis: thanks | 16:15 |
| erlon-airlong | e0ne:, no, it only runs on requests, but I never saw it failing for reasons that it shoudnt fail | 16:15 |
| erlon-airlong | e0ne: so, putin it as -nv we will be able to know | 16:16 |
| jessegler | thanks! | 16:16 |
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| smcginnis | jessegler: Thanks for raising the topic. xyang1: you too. | 16:16 |
| e0ne | erlon-airlong: :( | 16:16 |
| e0ne | erlon-airlong: can we get any stats from infra? | 16:17 |
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| smcginnis | erlon-airlong: NV should be safe. And if we find it does have too many issues, easy enough to revert. | 16:17 |
| scottda | erlon-airlong: +1 I say make in non-voting so we can see results. | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | erlon-airlong: But if you're feeling confident about having it run always, then I think it might be a good time. | 16:17 |
| erlon-airlong | e0ne: ? I can see if we can, but I don't belive there will be too many runs | 16:17 |
| erlon-airlong | smcginnis: Im pretty confident that it will be stable | 16:18 |
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| smcginnis | +1 then | 16:18 |
| erlon-airlong | smcginnis: it will also help to prevent bugs like this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407089/ | 16:18 |
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| smcginnis | erlon-airlong: I would still prefer to actually understand that bug and the failure and get it properly fixed rather than reverted. | 16:19 |
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| e0ne | erlon-airlong: http://grafana.openstack.org/ could help | 16:19 |
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| scottda | smcginnis: +1 I hope to look at that today | 16:19 |
| erlon-airlong | smcginnis: sure, scottda would have a deep look into it, | 16:19 |
| erlon-airlong | scottda: hmm, great! | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Awesome, thanks! | 16:19 |
| erlon-airlong | e0ne: thanks | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | #topic Open | 16:19 |
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| mars | Hello everyone，I'd like to consult some questions to you. | 16:19 |
| erlon-airlong | o\ | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | Anything else? | 16:20 |
| scottda | tbarron: If you are around, there's a thought that a patch of yours might be involved... | 16:20 |
| erlon-airlong | \o | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | mars: Sure, what's up? | 16:20 |
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| mars | I'm interested in a blueprint https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/in-use-volume-migrate-rbd. I want to consult you whether I can do this bp or to say whether community support this bp ? And whether it is worth to do, because as far as I know ceph can be accessed directly through the network , and this bp is aim to convert network access to access from device path which ceph has mounted ? and I want to hear your comments or suggestions, tha | 16:20 |
| mars | nk you! | 16:20 |
| erlon-airlong | me again after this one :) | 16:20 |
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| e0ne | erlon-airlong: I'm sorry, here is a correct link: http://graphite.openstack.org/ | 16:20 |
| erlon-airlong | e0ne: ok | 16:20 |
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| mdovgal | yes. i want to discuss this patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399003/ | 16:20 |
| tbarron | scottda: just revert it (my old patch) :) | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | eharney: Thoughts on that one? | 16:21 |
| mars | smcginnis:can we do this bp? | 16:21 |
| mars | or to say,can I | 16:21 |
| eharney | oops, i had fallen off of irc... | 16:21 |
| viks | I would like to update on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382097/ | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | mars: Reading through it now. Would like some input from RH. | 16:21 |
| mdovgal | we have different opinions about it in comments | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | eharney: :) | 16:21 |
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| eharney | which thing? | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | eharney: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/in-use-volume-migrate-rbd | 16:22 |
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| eharney | not sure at the moment, will have to run that one by jbernard | 16:23 |
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| smcginnis | mars: I think you can probably start work on it. I don't see any obvious reason why we wouldn't want it at least at some point. | 16:24 |
| mars | ok ,I got it,thank you | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | mars: Thanks | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | erlon-airlong: You had one next I believe? | 16:24 |
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| erlon-airlong | smcginnis: I have put some patches for the multimatrix tests | 16:24 |
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| erlon-airlong | smcginnis: there is one in cinder that would be good to have more people looking at | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | erlon-airlong: Links? | 16:25 |
| erlon-airlong | smcginnis: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381736/ | 16:25 |
| erlon-airlong | smcginnis: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381737/ | 16:25 |
| e0ne | # linke https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381736/ | 16:25 |
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| e0ne | # link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381736/ | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | erlon-airlong: Oh nice, I missed that one. Yeah, those would be good. | 16:25 |
| e0ne | # link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381737/ | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | I'll add it to my queue. | 16:26 |
| e0ne | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381737/ | 16:26 |
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| erlon-airlong | smcginnis: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/375103/ | 16:26 |
| erlon-airlong | smcginnis: this last one is on devstack-nfs-plugin | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381736/ | 16:26 |
| e0ne | erlon-airlong: you need to rebase https://review.openstack.org/#/c/381737/ | 16:26 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: thanks:) | 16:26 |
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| smcginnis | erlon-airlong: OK, hopefully we can get some eyes on it soon. | 16:26 |
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| smcginnis | e0ne: Thank you! :) | 16:27 |
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| smcginnis | OK, mdovgal, I think you were next. | 16:27 |
| erlon-airlong | smcginnis: scottda here is a working run of the job (I teeked devstack-gate to run like it was the job it its is possible to see it working): http://logs.openstack.org/92/396592/7/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial/ad245d7/console.html.gz | 16:27 |
| mdovgal | smcginnis, tnx) | 16:27 |
| erlon-airlong | e0ne: ok, Ill | 16:27 |
| erlon-airlong | smcginnis: thanks | 16:27 |
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| erlon-airlong | smcginnis: for me thats all | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | erlon-airlong: Thank you | 16:28 |
| mars | smcginnis:This bp is derived from a contributor named Ji.Wei https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/in-use-volume-migrate-to-ceph , but over the past six months his status is still not started, so I contact him and hope him can assign it to me , but I haven't got any response from him so I resubmit this blueprint and assign to myself,so if that ok I will submit a template about it as soon as possible. | 16:29 |
| mdovgal | in comments we have different opinions about changing log level for volume attach/detach operation | 16:29 |
| e0ne | our operators wants this patch now because there is no way to find what went wrong in nova-cinder attach flow w/o debug mode:( | 16:29 |
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| e0ne | we have already all needed data in INFO level from nova side but cinder's part is missed | 16:30 |
| e0ne | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399003/ | 16:30 |
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| smcginnis | mdovgal: Should be easy enough to put more detailed logging in the error handling. | 16:30 |
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| e0ne | smcginnis: the problem is: we do not know where error could happen: on nova's side or cinder | 16:31 |
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| e0ne | smcginnis: so full logs well help operators to find issues using something like kibana/elasticsearch | 16:31 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Ah, so the operation could fail, but it didn't fail on the Cinder side so there wouldn't be any clues unless this is done at info instead of debug. That right? | 16:31 |
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| e0ne | smcginnis: correct | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | e0ne, mdovgal: OK, thanks. That makes more sense then. | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | mdovgal: It needs a rebase now unfortunately. | 16:32 |
| e0ne | smcginnis, mdovgal: great | 16:32 |
| mdovgal | smcginnis, yes, of course | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | mdovgal: If you can get that rebased and everything passing again, I think you've convinced me. | 16:33 |
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| smcginnis | :) | 16:33 |
| e0ne | mdovgal: please, add a link to meeting discussion to review or a commit message | 16:33 |
| mdovgal | i will do it as soon as possible. thanks | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | mdovgal: Thanks for explaining it. | 16:33 |
| mdovgal | e0ne, ok | 16:33 |
| e0ne | mdovgal: IMO, link in comments to patch would be enough | 16:33 |
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| smcginnis | Anyone else? | 16:33 |
| mdovgal | e0ne, i'll add it | 16:33 |
| viks | hi https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/veritas-hyperscale-cinder-driver | 16:33 |
| e0ne | smcginnis, mdovgal: thanks! | 16:34 |
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| e0ne | viks: hi | 16:34 |
| e0ne | viks: what do you want to discuss according to your driver? | 16:35 |
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| e0ne | viks: I don't see CI results for the patch:( | 16:35 |
| viks | Just wanted to give an update | 16:35 |
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| viks | yes we are working on CI environment | 16:35 |
| viks | we were able to post patched on ci sandbox | 16:36 |
| stevemar | smcginnis: o/ if you have room, i'd like to give a quick OSC update | 16:36 |
| viks | and making necessary changes for cinder environment now | 16:36 |
| stevemar | happy to wait til the agenda topics are over | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | stevemar: OK, you're next. | 16:36 |
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| smcginnis | viks: We're trying to get driver reviews some priority. Not much time left, but if you can get review comments addressed and get the CI reporting very soon, you still have a little time left. | 16:37 |
| viks | yes we are trying to get it done on time | 16:38 |
| viks | jsut wanted to update here | 16:38 |
| viks | thanks | 16:38 |
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| smcginnis | viks: OK, thanks. Good luck. | 16:38 |
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| smcginnis | stevemar: OK, you're up. Going to tell us that osc is all complete for cinder? :P | 16:38 |
| stevemar | smcginnis: ha, almost! | 16:39 |
| stevemar | that's the update :) | 16:39 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:39 |
| stevemar | for v1 commands, we're about 90-95% at parity | 16:39 |
| stevemar | for v2 we're at 80% parity | 16:39 |
| smcginnis | stevemar: Got the spreadsheet link handy? Might be good for folks to see where things stand. | 16:39 |
| stevemar | with patches in flight for the remaining work | 16:39 |
| smcginnis | stevemar: Really good progress! | 16:40 |
| e0ne | stevemar: what about v3 and microversions? | 16:40 |
| stevemar | https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18ZtWC75BNCwFqLfFpCGGJ9uPVBvUXX0xuXP1yYG0NDA/edit?usp=sharing | 16:40 |
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| smcginnis | #link https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18ZtWC75BNCwFqLfFpCGGJ9uPVBvUXX0xuXP1yYG0NDA/edit OSC Cinder command implementation progress | 16:40 |
| stevemar | e0ne: catching up is the name of our game, so haven't tackled that yet | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | v3 should be easy once v2 is done. It's adding microversion stuff that will take more effort. | 16:41 |
| stevemar | the last big hurdle is the encryption type stuff | 16:41 |
| e0ne | stevemar: why can't we just implement in cinder client as a plugin and make it required? | 16:41 |
| erlon-airlong | stevemar: I have always encouraging folks that adds new features in Cinder to add the OSC in their roadmap too | 16:41 |
| scottda | stevemar: Yeah, it seems like OSC needs a generic microversion solution. Seems like it could be tricky, since all services are a bit different. | 16:41 |
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| stevemar | e0ne smcginnis TBH i haven't scoped out the work needed for microversions and v3 yet -- trying to catch up to a moving target here | 16:42 |
| stevemar | scottda: correct | 16:42 |
| tbarron | from my POV the two big issues were (1) microversion negotiation support, and (2) running cinder/manila/whatever as standalone service. | 16:42 |
| tbarron | is #2 solved? | 16:42 |
| e0ne | tbarron: good point | 16:42 |
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| stevemar | tbarron: nope | 16:43 |
| e0ne | :( | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | tbarron: Oh, you mean like the brick plugin stuff? | 16:43 |
| tbarron | I just mean, being able to have a stanalone cli that shares with osc | 16:43 |
| stevemar | tbarron: it would have to be a plugin | 16:43 |
| e0ne | so, we will live with cinderclient cli and brickclient-ext for a while | 16:43 |
| tbarron | smcginnis: stevemar yeah, some kind of plugin infra for osc | 16:43 |
| stevemar | this is just a heads up about v1 and v2 parity support, that was our initial goal | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Yeah, until there is a way to support that, cinderclient CLI can't go away, IMO. | 16:44 |
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| e0ne | smcginnis: +2 | 16:44 |
| stevemar | microversions, v3, and manila standalone were out of scope when we created OSC | 16:44 |
| smcginnis | stevemar: Great progress. Certainly more work to do, but just having this base is necessary and a good sign. | 16:44 |
| bswartz | stevemar: don't forget cinder standalone | 16:44 |
| tbarron | stevemar: yeah, i understand, and I'm an OSC fan, just being pragmatic about how to close the deal | 16:44 |
| stevemar | tbarron: close when we're ready :) | 16:44 |
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| stevemar | tbarron: not all projects will close up at the same time, neutron deprecated their cli \o/ | 16:45 |
| stevemar | just something to keep in your back pocket | 16:45 |
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| tbarron | stevemar: great progress with keystone and neutron, I don't mean to be detracting | 16:45 |
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| xyang1 | stevemar: so neutron use OSC only? | 16:46 |
| stevemar | xyang1: the neutron CLI is still alive, but they issue a deprecation warning when any command is used | 16:46 |
| xyang1 | stevemar: do you know when neutron CLI will be removed? | 16:46 |
| e0ne | xyang1: keystone deprecated their CLI in flavor of OSC | 16:46 |
| stevemar | xyang1: something like this: http://paste.openstack.org/show/591683/ | 16:47 |
| bswartz | keystone did it LONG ago | 16:47 |
| stevemar | keystone deprecated it *long* ago and removed it last release | 16:47 |
| e0ne | is keystone only one project who removed CLI from their client/ | 16:47 |
| xyang1 | ok, thanks | 16:47 |
| stevemar | xyang1: it'll (neutron) probably stick around for a year -- i don't know the details off hand | 16:47 |
| stevemar | e0ne: we're slowly picking targets where we are close | 16:48 |
| stevemar | which is why i keep bringing it up here :D | 16:48 |
| smcginnis | stevemar: Communication is key. ;) | 16:48 |
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| smcginnis | OK, anything else today? | 16:49 |
| stevemar | anyway, just a status update that we're close with v1 and v2 -- good to know about the other stuff, we'll get to that as soon as the v1 and v2 work is complete (shouldn't be long now) | 16:49 |
| smcginnis | stevemar: Thanks! And nice work. | 16:49 |
| stevemar | comment on the google doc if you have questions | 16:49 |
| jungleboyj | stevemar ++ | 16:49 |
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| smcginnis | Alright, if nothing else I think we can end a little early. | 16:51 |
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| smcginnis | Last call for any other topics. | 16:51 |
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| erlon-airlong | stevemar: thanks! | 16:52 |
| e0ne | I would like to ask review for #link https://review.openstack.org/381547 | 16:52 |
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| smcginnis | e0ne: Tabbed | 16:53 |
| e0ne | It will increase our cinderclient functional tests coverage | 16:53 |
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| smcginnis | OK, thanks everyone. I guess that's it for today. | 16:53 |
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| jungleboyj | Thanks. | 16:53 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 16:53 |
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| viks | thanks all | 16:53 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 7 16:53:43 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:53 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-12-07-16.00.html | 16:53 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-12-07-16.00.txt | 16:53 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-12-07-16.00.log.html | 16:53 |
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| bh526r | #startmeeting gluon | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 7 18:00:05 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bh526r. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'gluon' | 18:00 |
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| bh526r | #topic Roll Call and Introduction | 18:00 |
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| bh526r | hello guys | 18:00 |
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| bh526r | #info Bin Hu | 18:00 |
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| krenczewski | #info Kamil Renczewski | 18:01 |
| bh526r | Hi Kamil | 18:01 |
| krenczewski | Hello | 18:01 |
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| georgk | #info Georg Kunz | 18:02 |
| tomhambleton | #info Tom Hambleton | 18:02 |
| bh526r | #topic Admin Update | 18:02 |
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| bh526r | #info None | 18:02 |
| bh526r | BTW, I have a hard stop at 10:30am PST | 18:02 |
| georgk | I also have to leave quite soon | 18:03 |
| georgk | sorry | 18:03 |
| bh526r | #topic Gluon Tasks | 18:03 |
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| bh526r | no problem Georg | 18:03 |
| bh526r | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Gluon/Tasks-Ocata | 18:03 |
| bh526r | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-gluon-work-plan | 18:04 |
| bh526r | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-neutron-session | 18:04 |
| bh526r | let's quickly review the status | 18:04 |
| bh526r | #topic Status Update | 18:04 |
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| bh526r | #info 1. Authentication and Access Control | 18:05 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398577/ | 18:05 |
| bh526r | #info Kamal submitted a new patchset #2 on Monday | 18:05 |
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| bh526r | did anyone have a chance to review it? | 18:06 |
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| tomhambleton | Not yet | 18:06 |
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| georgk | me neither | 18:06 |
| bh526r | prior comments were from Ian. So let us take more time to review and comment on it | 18:07 |
| bh526r | #info Team needs more time to review and comment on it | 18:07 |
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| bh526r | #info 2. OpenContrail's Mechanism Driver | 18:07 |
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| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402071/ | 18:08 |
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| bh526r | #info Now the mechanism driver and Gluon Extended Neutron Plugin are working nicely together in lab node-6 | 18:08 |
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| bh526r | Kamil, the Mechanism Driver path is gluon/neutron/plugins/ml2/drivers | 18:09 |
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| krenczewski | Yes, the path is similar to what neutron expects for mechanism drivers | 18:09 |
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| bh526r | I see. That's good. And current Gluon's Extended ML2 Plugin path is gluon/plugin | 18:11 |
| krenczewski | If everything on node-6 looks good, then I am waiting on review comments | 18:11 |
| krenczewski | Yes, I saw that, but decided to follow the neutron way | 18:11 |
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| krenczewski | and change it after comments in review if requested | 18:12 |
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| bh526r | Sure. Tom, is our gluon/plugin path the best way? | 18:12 |
| krenczewski | or convince you to also follow neutron way | 18:12 |
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| bh526r | Just to make sure. Not an urgent item now, because we can change the path at any time if needed | 18:13 |
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| bh526r | Georg, | 18:13 |
| tomhambleton | Not sure what you are asking. | 18:14 |
| georgk | yes? | 18:14 |
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| bh526r | it seems that in OPNFV Netready, we also need to package Contrail's Mechanism Driver in RPM, right? | 18:14 |
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| bh526r | Then after installation, we just need to change the configuration in order to hook up Contrail. | 18:15 |
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| bh526r | Just like to hook up ODL's Shim Layer. | 18:15 |
| georgk | well, yes | 18:15 |
| bh526r | Sounds good. | 18:15 |
| georgk | there is no contrail in OPNFV | 18:15 |
| georgk | so, we wouldn´t be able to test it in OPNFV | 18:16 |
| georgk | but we can include the driver in the RPM | 18:16 |
| georgk | to ease manual installation | 18:16 |
| bh526r | Right, for now, we don't need to test it, but include it in order to ease installation | 18:16 |
| georgk | we need to provide installation instructions then | 18:16 |
| georgk | sure | 18:17 |
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| bh526r | Kamil, will you be able to provide installation instruction of install Contrail with the appropriate configuration instruction of using Mechanism Driver? | 18:17 |
| krenczewski | I think yes | 18:18 |
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| bh526r | Great, thank you | 18:18 |
| krenczewski | just let me know if you need some script or description or anything else | 18:18 |
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| georgk | ok | 18:19 |
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| bh526r | #info Contrail Mechanism Driver needs to be included in Gluon package so that OPNFV NetReady can generate RPM Package that includes both Contrail Mechanism Driver and other Shim Layers, such as ODL | 18:19 |
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| bh526r | #info This will ease the installation afterwards | 18:20 |
| bh526r | #info Kamil will provide the instruction of installing Contrail and configuration using Mechanism Driver | 18:20 |
| bh526r | #info Kamil will start with Instruction | 18:21 |
| bh526r | #info If needed, ideally, Kamil will provide scripts too to ease installation | 18:21 |
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| bh526r | #info All will review the Mechanism Driver code, and provide comments as necessary | 18:22 |
| krenczewski | in fact scripts are easier for me to provide | 18:22 |
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| bh526r | :-) | 18:22 |
| bh526r | Instruction is also needed as part of the documentation, as well as for manual installation | 18:22 |
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| bh526r | Thank you, Kamil | 18:23 |
| krenczewski | OK, will do | 18:23 |
| bh526r | Sorry Tom. | 18:23 |
| bh526r | My prior question is about the path of subclassed ML2 Plugin. | 18:24 |
| bh526r | The path is gluon/plugin now | 18:24 |
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| bh526r | Just to make sure the path conforms to Neutron's convention. Not urgent now, and we can think about later | 18:24 |
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| tomhambleton | Ok, if not urgent, deal with later. | 18:25 |
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| bh526r | #info 3. Testing | 18:25 |
| bh526r | good, thank you Tom | 18:25 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388821/ | 18:25 |
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| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393935/ | 18:26 |
| bh526r | #info All please provide comments if any | 18:26 |
| bh526r | #info 4. Shim Layer for ODL | 18:27 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407388/ | 18:27 |
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| bh526r | #info Niko submitted this patch on Tuesday | 18:27 |
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| bh526r | #info It also re-structured Shim Layer Sample codes under a new directory structure to make it consistent with ODL Shim Layer | 18:28 |
| bh526r | #info All please take some time to review and comment, if any | 18:28 |
| bh526r | #info Shim Layer for ODL will be part of RPM package in OPNFV NetReady | 18:29 |
| bh526r | That's all from my side for today | 18:29 |
| bh526r | Anything else / update from anyone? | 18:30 |
| georgk | newton compatibiliy testing is ongoing | 18:31 |
| georgk | looks good, but not concluded yet | 18:31 |
| georgk | so, no final statement yet | 18:31 |
| georgk | :-) | 18:31 |
| bh526r | #topic AOB | 18:31 |
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| bh526r | Great news | 18:31 |
| bh526r | #info Newton compatibility testing on going | 18:31 |
| bh526r | #info All look good for now, but not concluded yet | 18:31 |
| bh526r | #info More update next week | 18:32 |
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| bh526r | If nothing else, I need to drop | 18:32 |
| bh526r | #info Meeting adjourned | 18:33 |
| tomhambleton | Bye all! | 18:33 |
| georgk | ok, bye | 18:33 |
| bh526r | Thank you everyone | 18:33 |
| krenczewski | Bye | 18:33 |
| bh526r | and bye all | 18:33 |
| bh526r | #endmeeting | 18:33 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 7 18:33:23 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:33 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2016/gluon.2016-12-07-18.00.html | 18:33 |
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| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2016/gluon.2016-12-07-18.00.txt | 18:33 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2016/gluon.2016-12-07-18.00.log.html | 18:33 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | anybody about for the storyboard meeting? | 18:59 |
| SotK | hi | 19:00 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | it's COMING SOON to a meeting channel near you | 19:00 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | like, now | 19:00 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #startmeeting storyboard | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 7 19:00:38 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zara_the_lemur__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 19:00 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | #topic announcements | 19:00 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | None listed on the agenda, but I didn't do a good job of updating the agenda | 19:01 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | anything I've missed? | 19:01 |
| SotK | I don't | 19:01 |
| * zara_the_lemur__ will move on, then | 19:01 | |
| zara_the_lemur__ | no urgent items, so... | 19:01 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #topic In-progress work | 19:01 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | as mentioned, the agenda is a bit out of date | 19:02 |
| SotK | it is | 19:02 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I haven't updated webclient components this week; mainly been reviewing | 19:02 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | we've had lots of patches, thanks everyone! | 19:02 |
| SotK | I have actually done things too | 19:03 |
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| fungi | doing things is awesome | 19:03 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | yes! | 19:03 |
| SotK | I reworked the search endpoint patches that were blocking the "link to search results" patch | 19:03 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I'm very happy about that :) | 19:04 |
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| diablo_rojo | Good work :) | 19:04 |
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| SotK | and am intending to look at the issues in the "add teams to private stories" patch right after this meeting | 19:04 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389997/ | 19:04 |
| fungi | bring able to link to search results is almost as good as custom dashboards | 19:04 |
| SotK | indeed | 19:05 |
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| fungi | can at least be used to a similar purpose | 19:05 |
| * SotK really wants custom dashboards sometime | 19:05 | |
| zara_the_lemur__ | that's the link for one of the the 'link to search results' patches that requires more reviews | 19:05 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | +1 | 19:05 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | and the teams patch to which sotk refers is: | 19:06 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370287/ | 19:06 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | I found a tiny bug but it seems pretty-much done | 19:07 |
| diablo_rojo | Nice. | 19:07 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | also, sotk, I think you knew what was going wrong for one of the patches that's failing tests, but I'm not sure it's written up anyway | 19:08 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | *anywhere | 19:08 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | (one of jeblair's, maybe the test for users search?) | 19:09 |
| SotK | yeah, I think for some reason the SEARCH_ENGINE global variable which is used to find the search implementation isn't being set in the tests | 19:09 |
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| SotK | *think* | 19:09 |
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| jeblair | oh neat | 19:09 |
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| jeblair | i also have one that is *completely* baffling me: https://review.openstack.org/404978 | 19:09 |
| jeblair | it catastrophically fails in python27 with migration failures. python35 is fine. | 19:10 |
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| jeblair | it doesn't do anything with migrations. | 19:10 |
| SotK | yeah that one is very confusing | 19:11 |
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| fungi | wow | 19:11 |
| jeblair | (fwiw the code does actually work if you run it, so it's not that kind of error) | 19:11 |
| SotK | we've seen the same failure before, but it normally goes away upon recheck | 19:11 |
| jeblair | yeah that one is 4/4 :( | 19:11 |
| fungi | maybe it's a sign we should make sb python3.5-only ;) | 19:12 |
| jeblair | or 0/4 depending on how you look at it | 19:12 |
| SotK | I'd assumed it was some weird manifestation of a timeout | 19:12 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | ah, and three rechecks at this point | 19:13 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | it's not unheard of to need more, buuuut normally other patches would be failing in the same way, which would be a tipoff... | 19:13 |
| SotK | actually, looking at the most recent failure there are a bunch that are timeouts in there | 19:13 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | The very last are the interesting ones | 19:13 |
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| SotK | I suspect our testing needs some love | 19:14 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | hah, +5 | 19:15 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | and rather ironic that one of the patches failing tests is a patch to improve the tests... | 19:15 |
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| jeblair | oh, also, the particular migration that is running during the timeout varies, so it doesn't seem like it's making just one migration go bad | 19:16 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | I guess we could try increasing the length of time before timeout, but that's the only thing I can think of. | 19:17 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | well, that and 'recheck a few more times just in case' | 19:18 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | ugh. :L | 19:18 |
| jeblair | yeah. also, i could try to dig in to it a bit more, but it's not a huge priority for me right now | 19:19 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | maybe it doesn't like the tilde operator | 19:19 |
| fungi | would using some roll-up migrations for older changes help? | 19:19 |
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| fungi | or even be appropriate? | 19:19 |
| jeblair | probably a good idea in general | 19:19 |
| jeblair | there are a lot of migrations | 19:19 |
| fungi | just wondering if the set of migrations has grown to the point of untenability | 19:19 |
| * SotK agrees | 19:19 | |
| fungi | they're convenient to a point, but increasingly inefficient to maintain them for changes between versions people are unlikely to ever upgrade from/to | 19:20 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I think people are very unlikely to want the old ones | 19:21 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | and when I needed to use a version from > a year ago to debug a problem, it didn't work out well, since the webclient was out of sync | 19:22 |
| SotK | I think its probably safe enough to roll up the ones from pre-2015 | 19:23 |
| fungi | also, if people _really_ need them, this is all in revision control too so it's not like they're _gone_ ;) | 19:23 |
| SotK | yup | 19:24 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | yep | 19:24 |
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| SotK | anyone with an instance in the wild that is *that* old which we don't know of can face the battle :) | 19:24 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | hm should I use an #agreed? | 19:25 |
| fungi | so might want to make a very prominent release note that they can be found in git prior to that change, and then turn the etch-a-sketch upside down and shake vigorously | 19:25 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | I don't think I've ever used an #agreed | 19:25 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | hehe | 19:25 |
| fungi | you just #agreed whatever thing you've agreed to as descriptively as you like | 19:25 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #agreed storyboard can and should roll up pre-2015 changes | 19:26 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | #undo | 19:26 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | #agreed storyboard can and should roll up pre-2015 migrations | 19:26 |
| SotK | \o/ | 19:27 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I definitely don't advocate rebasing all our 2015 changes :D | 19:27 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | *pre-2015 | 19:27 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | other in-progress things... | 19:27 |
| jeblair | "Initial commit" | 19:27 |
| fungi | heh | 19:28 |
| fungi | git squash | 19:28 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | :) tristanC sent a couple of patches relating to email notifications (I think, I haven't had time to look closely yet) | 19:28 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407904/ | 19:28 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407915/ | 19:29 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | so as a big hypocrite, I will say: some eyes on those would be good! :D | 19:29 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | hm, one of those is also failing tests, which might be related to other strangeness, or might not | 19:29 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404979/ from jeblair seems fine to me and needs more eyes | 19:30 |
| SotK | that test failure appears to be because the status_code is a string not an integer | 19:30 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | =D | 19:30 |
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| * SotK will provide eyes later | 19:31 | |
| zara_the_lemur__ | aaaand there are a few other patches in review, but I could list them all or I could leave that to gerrit | 19:32 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | there is a specific discussion topic noted on the agenda, but that's just because it's out of date | 19:32 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #topic Open Discussion | 19:32 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | discuss things! | 19:33 |
| diablo_rojo | If there is a growing list of them maybe we could arrange them by priority in an etherpad so that if people want to know what they should review they can look there? | 19:33 |
| diablo_rojo | Thats what CInder does | 19:33 |
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| diablo_rojo | Just a thought. Gerrit is good too :) | 19:33 |
| jeblair | folks might want to take a look at this script: https://review.openstack.org/407229 | 19:33 |
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| jeblair | SpamapS was in here last week discussing how he would like a semi-automated board | 19:34 |
| jeblair | i think i implemented it with that | 19:34 |
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| jeblair | (new tasks show up in the 'new' lane; you can move them to 'backlog' or 'todo'. if someone grabs a task, it gets auto-moved to 'in progress', but you can also move it to/from blocked. when it merges, it gets auto-removed) | 19:35 |
| SotK | ooh I was meaning to try to locate that script, since it sounded really neat | 19:35 |
| jeblair | that way there's a manual triage step (move out of new), and manual indication of blockedness. but things appear in the board automatically, so there's no time spent making sure you have added tasks to the board as needed | 19:36 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | diablo_rojo: yeah, it's not part of our workflow at the moment so we'd probably use gerrit or storyboard itself to track review priorities, since adding other things tends to mean those things get out of date for us (see: meeting agenda :D), but an etherpad might work better with loads of patches (I suspect our busy weeks are still a lot less busy than | 19:36 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | cinder's busy weeks) | 19:36 |
| jeblair | i have no idea if/how that could be implemented server side... but it's a fairly generic approach -- see the MAP definition on line 65 for the rules. | 19:37 |
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| jeblair | (and hey, at least in the mean time, we're able to accomplish what we want using the api! yay!) | 19:38 |
| diablo_rojo | zara_the_lemur__, True :) | 19:38 |
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| fungi | also, using storyboard to effectively prioritize reviews for storyboard makes a lot of sense in a eat-our-own-dogfood sort of way | 19:39 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | jeblair: cool, thanks; we've wondered a lot about how to get a semi-automated board working sensibly (since cards in automatic lanes aren't 'real' so then there's nothing to drag and drop), so if scripts like this can solve that problem, yayyyy | 19:40 |
| SotK | we should get perfect at mapping tasks to commits, and use a worklist for prioritising the reviews | 19:40 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | yep | 19:41 |
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| SotK | the problem with implementing automatic boards/worklists like that script on the server side is that it'd mean every story change would mean checking every worklist/board and updating their contents to match | 19:42 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | ah, slowwww | 19:43 |
| SotK | s/story/story or task/ | 19:43 |
| SotK | maybe it wouldn't be too slow, but I felt like that way would lead to even more madness than the current method | 19:43 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | though this reminds me that I would quite like to have a directory within storyboard of 'sample scripts' for things that come up a lot, that are best implemented client-side | 19:44 |
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| SotK | that sounds like it might be handy | 19:45 |
| jeblair | SotK: yeah... there might be some solutions, but i can't think of any simple ones; i think they would all be somewhat major efforts | 19:45 |
| SotK | I think so to :( | 19:45 |
| jeblair | zara_the_lemur__, SotK: we can probably clean this one up and put it in there. we may want to remove the dependency on boartty (i was lazy and did not want to write a config parser) | 19:45 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | (I did something a bit like that for the python client, but most folks who like apis tend to talk to the api directly, so there haven't been many eyes on it... https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371620/ ) | 19:46 |
| SotK | on a related note, I would love to see the old pub/sub spec implemented so scripts like that one could be bots which sub to things they care about and react to change events being published | 19:46 |
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| SotK | but that will also take plenty of time I expect | 19:47 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | jeblair: heh, sure, I'd be fine with having it in there with the boartty dependency first and then removing it later | 19:47 |
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| jeblair | fungi: also, if this would be useful for other openstack teams, we could probably run it in an infra cron somewhere and a config file where people can add boards | 19:47 |
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| fungi | yeah, that's always an option | 19:48 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | oh, that'd be cool | 19:49 |
| fungi | but as SotK points out, we could make it far more efficient with an event stream | 19:49 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | I can imagine everyone having sliiiightly different requests and it ending up its own project if not | 19:50 |
| SotK | an events stream using websockets would let us have a beautiful live-updating board in the webclient too | 19:50 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | yeah, I'd love for us to have that | 19:51 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | I don't think I'd have the knowledge to implement it (yet?) | 19:53 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | so if anyone does want to leap on it, yes please! | 19:55 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | otherwise I'll have to learn more about python and websockets and things before I feel confident making a guess at whenn we'll get to that. | 19:56 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | we have 3 minutes | 19:57 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | any last points? | 19:57 |
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| * SotK would be happy to do it but has no idea when he'd get to it | 19:58 | |
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| * zara_the_lemur__ offers SotK ice cream | 19:59 | |
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| SotK | :D | 19:59 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | oh yeah I think we merged all the fixes for incubated oslo code | 19:59 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I forgot that | 19:59 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | thanks, dhellman! | 19:59 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | I just saw he quit, which reminded me, oops | 19:59 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #endmeeting | 19:59 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 19:59 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 7 19:59:35 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-12-07-19.00.html | 19:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-12-07-19.00.txt | 19:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-12-07-19.00.log.html | 19:59 |
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| ekhugen | #startmeeting wos-mentoring | 20:00 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | (and apparently I can't spell, either; thanks, dhellmann!) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 7 20:00:45 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekhugen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'wos_mentoring' | 20:00 |
| ekhugen | hi, anyone here for women of openstack mentoring? | 20:01 |
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| ekhugen | ildikov it might be just the two of us | 20:01 |
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| ekhugen | hi CarolBarrett | 20:02 |
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| CarolBarrett | Hi ekhugen | 20:04 |
| ekhugen | I think it's just the two of us, aimee and meganr said they couldn't make it today | 20:04 |
| CarolBarrett | OK | 20:04 |
| ekhugen | so do you have any topics you particularly want to talk about? | 20:04 |
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| CarolBarrett | Have you gotten many responses to the Match emails? | 20:05 |
| ekhugen | I had 15 responses so far | 20:05 |
| ekhugen | and 13 people have not responded | 20:05 |
| ekhugen | so I think I'll send around a final reminder to those 13 before I remove them from the list | 20:05 |
| ankur-gupta-f | Sorry to interrupt. If I were to refer members of my team to join up WoS where should I refer them to. | 20:05 |
| ekhugen | #topic new matches | 20:05 |
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| ekhugen | ankur-gupta-f this is the signup form https://openstackfoundation.formstack.com/forms/mentor_mentee_signup_pre_barcelona | 20:06 |
| ekhugen | and there's more information here https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Mentors | 20:06 |
| ankur-gupta-f | perfect. Thank you | 20:06 |
| ekhugen | yw | 20:07 |
| ekhugen | but yes, I was pretty pleased with how many people responded, and hopefully we'll get a few more from a reminder email | 20:07 |
| ekhugen | I thought I'd be nice and give them another week to respond, since it's december and many america/europe people are probably getting into holidays | 20:07 |
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| CarolBarrett | Good to hear of the response rate- sounds like a good follow-up plan | 20:08 |
| diablo_rojo | Hello :) | 20:08 |
| ekhugen | hi diablo_rojo | 20:08 |
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| ekhugen | so for the next round of emails, I'm going to send them from my gmail, so I'll use the new gmail | 20:10 |
| ekhugen | I haven't experimented with it yet, but I think I can send it so it looks like it's coming from the new one Megan set up | 20:11 |
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| ekhugen | did anyone have any questions or comments on the new gmail? | 20:11 |
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| CarolBarrett | Nope - I'll keep an eye out for emails in my gmail account too | 20:13 |
| ekhugen | any other comments on matches? I have been updating this spreadsheet as I hear from people https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r2ZZNq7MBNJNKr0g_QlnQvhmkTSC8pf1x4DC-_NMfhA/edit#gid=0 | 20:13 |
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| CarolBarrett | Good! | 20:14 |
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| ekhugen | I did start copying the gmail on all mentoring stuff, but I think that doesn't necessarily notify the delegates to the email | 20:15 |
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| ekhugen | and I don't really have much of an update on the project, I asked the infra team to add me to the mentoring scripts team | 20:16 |
| CarolBarrett | So far I haven't seen anything in my gmail account | 20:16 |
| ekhugen | but I haven't gotten a response on that yet | 20:16 |
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| ekhugen | I think once I'm added to the project team, I can actually create the git repository and put stuff out there | 20:17 |
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| ekhugen | that's all I had | 20:18 |
| ekhugen | anything else CarolBarrett or diablo_rojo? | 20:18 |
| CarolBarrett | Nothing from me | 20:18 |
| diablo_rojo | Nothing from me either | 20:18 |
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| ekhugen | okay, cool, thanks everyone! | 20:18 |
| diablo_rojo | THanks for the updates :) | 20:19 |
| ekhugen | have a good day | 20:19 |
| CarolBarrett | You too! | 20:19 |
| ekhugen | #endmeeting | 20:19 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 7 20:19:23 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:19 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/wos_mentoring/2016/wos_mentoring.2016-12-07-20.00.html | 20:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/wos_mentoring/2016/wos_mentoring.2016-12-07-20.00.txt | 20:19 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/wos_mentoring/2016/wos_mentoring.2016-12-07-20.00.log.html | 20:19 |
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