| ekcs | time for congress team meeting ramineni_ masahito thinrichs aimeeu | 00:00 |
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| aimeeu | hello! | 00:00 |
| ekcs | hi aimeeu ! | 00:00 |
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| ekcs | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 00:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 15 00:01:30 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:01 |
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| ekcs | Hi all. Good to see everyone! | 00:01 |
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| ekcs | I have the following topics for today: | 00:02 |
| ekcs | - Gating | 00:02 |
| ekcs | - Ocata-2 | 00:02 |
| ekcs | - Ocata-3 timeline | 00:02 |
| ekcs | - Ocata client release | 00:02 |
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| ekcs | - Open discussion | 00:02 |
| ekcs | Anything else to add? | 00:02 |
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| masahito | hi | 00:02 |
| ramineni_ | Hi | 00:02 |
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| ekcs | hi masahito ramineni_ ! | 00:02 |
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| thinrichs | Hi all | 00:03 |
| ekcs | hi thinrichs ! | 00:03 |
| ekcs | Okay first topic then = ) | 00:04 |
| ekcs | #topic gating | 00:04 |
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| ekcs | Everyone’s fav topic I’m sure. | 00:04 |
| ekcs | I think the gate is finally happy after lots work. It seems that when a process/thread interrupts the current test with logging, subunit checksums fail (I still don't understand the exact mechanics). | 00:04 |
| thinrichs | Nice work! | 00:05 |
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| ekcs | Big thanks to ramineni_ for resolving the biggest troublemakers here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408439/ | 00:05 |
| ekcs | Another change here resolved a less frequent source of problem: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409380/ | 00:05 |
| ekcs | As far as I can tell, parser checksum issues have not shown up since those two patches. | 00:05 |
| ekcs | Any thoughts/comments/questions about gating? | 00:05 |
| thinrichs | A quick one: all those node.stop()s | 00:06 |
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| thinrichs | weren't handled in the destructor for those tests? | 00:06 |
| thinrichs | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408439/6/congress/tests/dse2/test_dse2.py | 00:06 |
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| ekcs | thinrichs: Yes. But afaik destructors may not execute right away. i dunno if python does reference counting or periodic sweep GC. | 00:08 |
| thinrichs | Interesting. | 00:09 |
| ekcs | on the other hand, I’m not sure we saw the problem if the stops are taken out. ramineni_ do you have any comments? | 00:09 |
| ekcs | perhaps we should try taking out the stops just to see. | 00:09 |
| ramineni_ | Thinrichs: You meant in teardown? Or by default | 00:09 |
| thinrichs | teardown | 00:09 |
| ramineni_ | It's not defined in the file .. And all the nodes created are specific to each test ..so | 00:10 |
| ramineni_ | Not defined in setup | 00:10 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: you mean the python __del__ right? not the test tearDown method. | 00:11 |
| thinrichs | I see. I thought at some point we had tests that registered the nodes they created to be sure teardown could destroy them. But maybe that was a different test. | 00:11 |
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| thinrichs | Or __del__ eventually. | 00:11 |
| ramineni_ | Ya .. not sure it actually stopped the error though | 00:12 |
| ramineni_ | We had those in API tests | 00:12 |
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| ekcs | I guess we might do the same thing here so it’s not easy to forget the stop and potentially hit mysterious problems. | 00:13 |
| thinrichs | I'll put this in the back of my mind for next time. Thanks | 00:14 |
| thinrichs | I think it's just as easy to forget to register the nodes as it is to stop them. Unless there were a helper for creating nodes that also registered them. | 00:14 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: yup. | 00:14 |
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| ekcs | ok moving on then. | 00:17 |
| ekcs | it’s nice to finally have working gate. | 00:17 |
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| ekcs | #topic ocata-2 | 00:17 |
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| ekcs | Ocata-2 is due today/tomorrow. I've started doing testing on the latest commit and barring any serious issues will submit a patch to tag this as ocata-2: https://github.com/openstack/congress/commit/9943221dacd6e9215ada891dd3e89fcd6b5fbd21 | 00:17 |
| ekcs | Any thoughts/comments/questions? | 00:17 |
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| ekcs | ok moving on then. | 00:20 |
| ekcs | #topic Ocata-3 timeline | 00:20 |
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| ekcs | Looking at the release schedule: #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 00:21 |
| ekcs | There is a very compressed timeline between ocata-3 and RC1. So I think we should really frontload our testing to make sure ocata-3 is as close to final release as possible (which is always a good idea anyway). So I think we could aim to get all the Ocata changes in by january 16 and have a full week of testing before Ocata-3 release week. | 00:21 |
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| ekcs | What do you guys think about that? | 00:21 |
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| thinrichs | So it's 1 week from Ocata-3 to RC1? | 00:23 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: yup. | 00:23 |
| ekcs | Joys of a short release cycle! | 00:23 |
| thinrichs | Trying to finish up feature work a bit early seems good. | 00:24 |
| ramineni_ | +1 | 00:25 |
| masahito | +1 | 00:25 |
| ekcs | Okay then. I'll remind everyone again as it gets closer. | 00:25 |
| ekcs | Moving on if there’s nothing else. | 00:25 |
| ekcs | #topic Ocata client release | 00:25 |
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| ekcs | We have actual changes to the client this time around. So it'll be more important to do thorough testing there too. Does anyone want to spearhead that effort? | 00:26 |
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| ramineni_ | Any major change ? | 00:28 |
| masahito | Did we have any change that effects API schema or something? | 00:28 |
| masahito | If we have, we need to check the client side. | 00:29 |
| ekcs | ramineni_: I think minor changes. But changes nonetheless. removing deprecated oslo.common code. etc. compared to last cycle whee it’s essentially just doc and req changes. | 00:29 |
| ekcs | masahito: I don’t think there is any API schema change. anyone know otherwise? | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | We had some DB schema change go into the server this time. Does that impact the client? | 00:31 |
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| thinrichs | Don't remember which table—handled soft deletes of maybe policies? | 00:31 |
| thinrichs | But all that should be hidden by the API | 00:31 |
| thinrichs | Have any of the APIs changed? | 00:31 |
| thinrichs | I don't remember any | 00:32 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: oh hmm good point. How does the client access the DB anyway? | 00:32 |
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| thinrichs | thru the API (and only thru the API) | 00:33 |
| ekcs | got it. | 00:33 |
| ekcs | no API changes AFAIK. | 00:33 |
| ekcs | Anyway I don’t mean we need any extraordinary testing. Just saying we need to run through all the commands and check that nothing broke. Anyway we can circle back on that at a later day. | 00:34 |
| ekcs | any other thoughts/comments/questions? | 00:35 |
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| ekcs | ok then moving on. | 00:38 |
| ekcs | #topic open discussion | 00:38 |
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| ekcs | Feel free to bring up anything you want to discuss or give a status update. | 00:38 |
| thinrichs | Attended the policy meeting this morning again. | 00:38 |
| thinrichs | One of the interesting bits that we haven't thought much about is cross-project (cross-tenant) concerns. | 00:38 |
| thinrichs | Seems that some companies have 1000s of projects/tenants. | 00:39 |
| thinrichs | Each new user has 1+ tenant/project of which they are the admin. | 00:39 |
| thinrichs | Each resource is owned by exactly one tenant/project (though it seems there are some exceptions to that rule, like networks). | 00:39 |
| thinrichs | When an API call comes in oslo-policy knows about this rule and checks if the object impacted by the API call belongs to the same project that the user belongs to. | 00:41 |
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| thinrichs | What I don't understand right now is whether project1 can grant rights for the object it owns to users of project2. | 00:42 |
| thinrichs | But that was one of the use cases that came up during the meeting. | 00:42 |
| thinrichs | For us, the owner of the resource is just a property of that object, and so we'd have no trouble granting rights | 00:43 |
| thinrichs | for an object in project1 to users in project2. | 00:43 |
| thinrichs | But doing that requires having *global* visibility into the objects/users of all the different projects. | 00:44 |
| thinrichs | One thing that Ruan did with the Moon policy-engine (don't have link handy) is enable each project to have its own policy. | 00:44 |
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| aimeeu | #link https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/moon/Moon | 00:45 |
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| thinrichs | One thing we might want to consider is understanding how Congress works in a multi-tenant world. | 00:45 |
| thinrichs | aimeeu: thanks! | 00:45 |
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| thinrichs | We support multiple policies. Can we support each project/tenant writing their own policies? Would we still want global-policies? How would the project/tenant policies and the global policies interact? | 00:47 |
| ekcs | hmm very interesting questions to consider. | 00:47 |
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| thinrichs | Sorry that was so long. | 00:48 |
| ekcs | thanks for the update thinrichs ! | 00:48 |
| ramineni_ | Just one more item would like to discuss .. Any thoughts of making congress dashboard separate project?? | 00:49 |
| ekcs | sounds like a great topic to think about and be prepared to drill into at the PTG. | 00:49 |
| aimeeu | I think making the dashboard a separate project is a great idea | 00:49 |
| thinrichs | Makes sense to me | 00:50 |
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| ramineni_ | We could consider for ocata ? | 00:52 |
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| ramineni_ | Or its too late? | 00:52 |
| aimeeu | Is it a lot of work to set up a new project? | 00:52 |
| ekcs | are there good examples we can follow? like other projects having a dashboard project? | 00:53 |
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| ramineni_ | Many projects do | 00:53 |
| thinrichs | Not sure how hard it is to setup a new project; haven't done that myself. | 00:53 |
| ramineni_ | I have mentioned in mailing list .. Let me get the link | 00:54 |
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| ekcs | could that be done in a way that doesn’t affect congress project? like start the process of setting up the project, but without removing from congress just yet. | 00:54 |
| ramineni_ | http://docs.openstack.org/developer/horizon/plugin_registry.html | 00:54 |
| aimeeu | #link http://docs.openstack.org/infra/manual/creators.html | 00:55 |
| ekcs | that way we don’t run the risk of the new thing not being ready and compromising ocata funcitonaliy of congress. | 00:55 |
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| ekcs | a minutes left. would someone like to figure out a plausible plan and timeline for creating doshboard project? | 00:59 |
| masahito | Just question. Policy dashboard for a tenant seems to be ok, butCan current congress handle a tenant/project policy rule now? | 00:59 |
| ekcs | time’s up for the meeting. why don’t we continue on #congress for those interested. | 01:00 |
| aimeeu | ekcs: I can look into what it will take to create a separate dashboard project since I, um, asked for it. ;) | 01:00 |
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| ekcs | thanks aimeeu ! | 01:01 |
| masahito | ok, bye | 01:01 |
| ramineni_ | Thanks aimeeu | 01:01 |
| ekcs | ok see you all next time or on #congress ! | 01:01 |
| ekcs | #endmeeting | 01:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 15 01:01:36 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-12-15-00.01.html | 01:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-12-15-00.01.txt | 01:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-12-15-00.01.log.html | 01:01 |
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| gmann | #startmeeting qa | 09:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 15 09:00:21 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 09:00 |
| gmann | Hello, who's here today? | 09:00 |
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| DavidPurcell | o/ | 09:01 |
| gmann | DavidPurcell: hi | 09:01 |
| gmann | let's wait for some time for more people to join | 09:02 |
| DavidPurcell | good morning :) | 09:02 |
| gmann | morning | 09:02 |
| gmann | masayukig: andreaf dmellado hi | 09:02 |
| masayukig | o/ | 09:03 |
| dmellado | o/ gmann morning | 09:03 |
| dmellado | hi guys | 09:03 |
| gmann | morning | 09:03 |
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| gmann | let's start | 09:05 |
| oomichi | hi | 09:05 |
| gmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_December_15th_2016_.280900_UTC.29 | 09:05 |
| gmann | ^^ Today's agenda | 09:05 |
| masayukig | oomichi : oh, too early for you? | 09:05 |
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| oomichi | masayukig: I am in Japan now | 09:05 |
| gmann | oomichi: hi | 09:05 |
| masayukig | oh, cool, I see :) | 09:06 |
| gmann | #topic Specs Reviews | 09:06 |
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| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 09:06 |
| gmann | most spec under review and waiting on author side | 09:06 |
| gmann | on this one - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410250/ | 09:06 |
| dmellado | oh, oomichi welcome back ;) | 09:07 |
| gmann | i did not get why we have to revert this instead of just updating if needed | 09:07 |
| oomichi | gmann: yeah, I also cannot get the reason yet | 09:07 |
| gmann | but my point is policy.json cannot be removed immediately | 09:07 |
| DavidPurcell | I wasn't sure why they wanted a revert either. Do we know the timeline on the change they're making? | 09:08 |
| oomichi | gmann: maybe he just wanted to get feedback more? | 09:08 |
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| gmann | oomichi: may be | 09:08 |
| oomichi | by reverting | 09:08 |
| gmann | DavidPurcell: well even they have merged i think older way still in support | 09:08 |
| gmann | I was thinking like go with current spec and if we need to adopt new middleware way then it can be done | 09:09 |
| oomichi | gmann: yeah, I don't think we can remove the old(?) style soon | 09:09 |
| gmann | spec is just to make policy bits testing which way that can be done/changed there | 09:09 |
| masayukig | I think the revert commit needs more explanation in the commit message at least. | 09:09 |
| oomichi | masayukig: ++ | 09:10 |
| gmann | masayukig: yea, i asked few query on review let's wait for reply may be | 09:10 |
| oomichi | to be honest, I really want to -2 because the commit message doesn't explain why | 09:10 |
| DavidPurcell | gmann: I like that approach. I think it should be reasonably easy to adapt tests from policy.json into tests for middleware once the new approach is released | 09:10 |
| dmellado | yeah, it's not really clear at all why they'd like to put that up | 09:10 |
| dmellado | I'll -1 it and ask for the commit message to be clarified | 09:11 |
| gmann | DavidPurcell: yea, thats how a testing tool should do actually | 09:11 |
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| gmann | anyways let's wait for more clarity there | 09:11 |
| gmann | any other spec to discuss ? | 09:12 |
| oomichi | gmann: yeah, nice direction | 09:12 |
| oomichi | gmann: maybe my new spec will be abandoned soon | 09:13 |
| oomichi | the decorator seems very small without spec enough | 09:13 |
| gmann | oomichi: which one? | 09:13 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/405637/ | 09:13 |
| gmann | oomichi: yea | 09:13 |
| oomichi | gmann: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/405637/ | 09:13 |
| * andreaf o/ | 09:13 | |
| gmann | m +2 on abandon :) | 09:13 |
| oomichi | gmann: yeah, that is | 09:13 |
| gmann | andreaf: hi | 09:14 |
| oomichi | gmann: abondoned it now | 09:14 |
| dmellado | oomichi: then should we just go ahead on the implementation without bp? | 09:14 |
| gmann | yes | 09:14 |
| oomichi | dmellado: yeah, I am feeling it is | 09:14 |
| gmann | spec is too heavy for that :) | 09:14 |
| gmann | oomichi: did all patches ready before updating spec | 09:15 |
| oomichi | gmann: yeah, I think so | 09:15 |
| oomichi | gmann: and the implementation is already done with applying the comments, | 09:15 |
| dmellado | +1 | 09:15 |
| oomichi | thanks all for the comments anyways :) | 09:15 |
| gmann | yea | 09:16 |
| gmann | m almost ok with that waiting for andreaf feedback on that | 09:16 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/405781/ | 09:16 |
| gmann | anyways let's change topic and discuss this in Tempest | 09:16 |
| gmann | #topic Tempest | 09:16 |
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| andreaf | gmann: heh sorry I will check it after the meeting | 09:17 |
| gmann | andreaf: sure | 09:17 |
| oomichi | andreaf: thanks | 09:17 |
| gmann | on tempest, gate is blocked now on liberty jobs | 09:17 |
| gmann | as liberty EOL and nova liberty branch no more and job fail | 09:17 |
| oomichi | gmann: oh, I didnt know that | 09:17 |
| gmann | there are patches to remove the liberty job from tempest | 09:18 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410928/1 | 09:18 |
| gmann | which is all together with other changes and other base patches also | 09:18 |
| gmann | this can take time to merge | 09:18 |
| oomichi | gmann: nice picking up, I will review it soon | 09:18 |
| gmann | so i separately created another one | 09:18 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/411113/ | 09:18 |
| gmann | ^^ this one, just remove tempest liberty jobs | 09:19 |
| gmann | but ok with any of them gets merged first | 09:19 |
| masayukig | gmann : is that included in 410928? | 09:19 |
| gmann | pinged infra team on channel but still need reivew | 09:19 |
| gmann | masayukig: yes, but with all other cleanup | 09:19 |
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| dmellado | gmann: I'll get some infra attention on this, it'd be great to have it merged asap | 09:20 |
| gmann | it seems to be impression that no one runs liberty as voting job | 09:20 |
| masayukig | yeah | 09:20 |
| gmann | dmellado: yea, i pinged all guys there just waiting for them to approve either patch | 09:20 |
| oomichi | yeah, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/411113/ needs to be merged soon | 09:20 |
| gmann | yea | 09:21 |
| dmellado | if liberty will no longer be tested in the gates | 09:21 |
| dmellado | should we create a tag announcing that tempest will no longer support it? | 09:22 |
| tosky | I was going to ask the same, iirc tempest is tagged also when an openstack release is retired | 09:22 |
| andreaf | dmellado: yeah good point | 09:22 |
| gmann | dmellado: yea nice point | 09:22 |
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| gmann | oomichi: ^^ can you do ? | 09:23 |
| andreaf | oomichi: I guess that's one for you :) | 09:23 |
| oomichi | tosky: yeah, the tag should be added when each EOL | 09:23 |
| masayukig | "PTL's work" | 09:23 |
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| oomichi | gmann: yeah, I will do that after removing jobs | 09:23 |
| gmann | #action oomichi needs to tag tempest on liberty EOL | 09:23 |
| gmann | oomichi: thanks | 09:23 |
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| gmann | next is open review on tempest | 09:24 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tempest+status:open | 09:24 |
| gmann | as gate is blocked but we can keep doing +2, +1 may be :) | 09:25 |
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| gmann | another thing on gate is puppet jobs also failing | 09:25 |
| masayukig | or -1, -2 :-p | 09:25 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409670/ | 09:26 |
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| jordanP | hi (I am late sorry) | 09:26 |
| gmann | masayukig: yes thats always valid :) | 09:26 |
| dmellado | hey jordanP | 09:26 |
| gmann | jordanP: hi | 09:26 |
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| gmann | i pinged EmilienM on that, i suspect its due to liberty EOl only | 09:26 |
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| oomichi | gmann: puppet jobs are using liberty also? | 09:27 |
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| masayukig | gmann : I hope so | 09:27 |
| gmann | oomichi: not sure, from log i did not find out the reason actually | 09:27 |
| oomichi | gmann: oh, OK | 09:27 |
| gmann | but i think they have some of the liberty branches using in their testi ng | 09:28 |
| dmellado | if that's the case, they'd all broken too, yeah | 09:28 |
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| gmann | let's wait for their finding | 09:29 |
| gmann | anything on tempest side more or we jump to bug | 09:29 |
| oomichi | gmann: ++ for jumping to bug triage | 09:30 |
| gmann | ok | 09:30 |
| gmann | so this week dmellado your turn ? | 09:30 |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-qa-bug-triage | 09:30 |
| dmellado | yep, I'll take it over until next week | 09:30 |
| gmann | #link https://github.com/oomichi/bug-counter#current-graph | 09:30 |
| gmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tempest-weekly-bug-report | 09:30 |
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| oomichi | ah, I didn't update the graph this week. sorry about that: https://github.com/oomichi/bug-counter#current-graph | 09:31 |
| gmann | dmellado: oh, i thought this week, 8 - 15 | 09:31 |
| dmellado | andreaf: maybe you could update (in case you didn't do it last week) | 09:31 |
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| dmellado | gmann: chandankumar was assigned for that time in between | 09:31 |
| jordanP | what about automatically closing very old bugs ? Like 2 years old ? | 09:31 |
| dmellado | but he told me that he got somehow deleted | 09:31 |
| * gmann dates confuse always as those are end dates not start dates | 09:31 | |
| andreaf | dmellado: oomichi updated the graph I think | 09:32 |
| andreaf | jordanP: yes we need some type of pruning like that | 09:32 |
| dmellado | gmann: then I'm confused too | 09:32 |
| tosky | but not automatic closing, please | 09:32 |
| gmann | jordanP: +1 but after looking into those not just directly | 09:32 |
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| masayukig | tosky : ++ | 09:32 |
| gmann | most of them not be valid | 09:33 |
| dmellado | was my turn this week then? I was expecting to do this from 15-22 | 09:33 |
| gmann | dmellado: yea | 09:33 |
| jordanP | yes, don't close bugs that still seems valid or bug with high priority, of course | 09:33 |
| * dmellado mistook the dates then | 09:33 | |
| gmann | ok let's put date range there to avoid confusion | 09:33 |
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| jordanP | +1 for date range | 09:33 |
| gmann | #action gmann to add date range on bug triage etherpad | 09:33 |
| masayukig | ++ | 09:33 |
| dmellado | ++ | 09:34 |
| gmann | ok so we can skip this week until andreaf want to highlight any one bugs from last week | 09:34 |
| dmellado | if that's the case I'll take a look with rodrigods too, but I'd say he thought the dates were different too | 09:34 |
| gmann | andreaf: you did lot of cleanup | 09:34 |
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| gmann | new bug count is in single digit o/ | 09:34 |
| oomichi | ah, this week report should be dmellado | 09:34 |
| masayukig | gmann : \o/ cool! | 09:35 |
| dmellado | oomichi: I mistook the dates and thought my turn was from today 'til next wed | 09:35 |
| oomichi | andreaf has done already on the previous meeting | 09:35 |
| andreaf | gmann: I mostly went through bugs in new state - some where old and not valid anymore - so I think jordanP has a point we need to do the same also for bugs in triaged and in progress state | 09:35 |
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| gmann | +1 | 09:35 |
| oomichi | dmellado: ok, I put your name for the next meeting | 09:35 |
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| dmellado | oomichi: thanks! | 09:35 |
| oomichi | dmellado: thank you also :) | 09:36 |
| gmann | and in progress we might need to open/close as many of the patches might be abandon | 09:36 |
| dmellado | oomichi: but toally +1 for the date range, I mistook it xD | 09:36 |
| jordanP | ok, so let's agree we can try to be more "aggressive" in closing bugs older than 2 years | 09:36 |
| andreaf | one good news is that not the non-admin / test-accounts job are almost back to green - only one issue left with swift tests | 09:36 |
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| masayukig | jordanP : +++ | 09:36 |
| oomichi | dmellado: yeah, it was easy to misread the etherpad | 09:36 |
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| gmann | andreaf: great, you rocks :) | 09:36 |
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| dmellado | jordanP: ++, there should be quite the old bugs that are not even valid anymore | 09:36 |
| andreaf | jordanP: if that the info command, or is there a "decision" meeting bot command? | 09:37 |
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| dmellado | I'll take a look and clean them up too | 09:37 |
| tosky | I didn't say to not close them, but just to at least read them before closing | 09:37 |
| gmann | jordanP: yea thats should be fine. | 09:37 |
| tosky | there could be a "bug re-triaging" session | 09:37 |
| dmellado | tosky: maybe you'd like to join the cleanup these days :D | 09:37 |
| masayukig | tosky : yes, of course, we should do that | 09:37 |
| oomichi | tosky: yeah, that is good before closing | 09:37 |
| gmann | tosky: yea not close just by time after reading and ll be quick to close | 09:37 |
| jordanP | well, I don't know about the meeting bot, I am not the chair here :) | 09:37 |
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| jordanP | let's make it an "info" :) | 09:37 |
| tosky | dmellado: if it's after the next two weeks, sure | 09:38 |
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| andreaf | #agreed we can try to be more "aggressive" in closing bugs older than 2 years | 09:38 |
| gmann | andreaf: thanks | 09:38 |
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| andreaf | only chair can do that I fear | 09:38 |
| andreaf | gmann: so you have to do it if you want :D | 09:38 |
| andreaf | https://github.com/openstack-infra/meetbot/blob/master/doc/Manual.txt#L138 | 09:39 |
| gmann | again ? | 09:39 |
| jordanP | yes | 09:39 |
| gmann | #agreed we can try to be more "aggressive" in closing bugs older than 2 years | 09:39 |
| andreaf | I think mine is not taken into account | 09:39 |
| masayukig | hah | 09:39 |
| dmellado | heh | 09:39 |
| gmann | same :) | 09:39 |
| jordanP | awesome | 09:39 |
| jordanP | oups | 09:39 |
| jordanP | nevermind I guess, let's move on maybe | 09:40 |
| dmellado | yep | 09:40 |
| gmann | yea | 09:40 |
| gmann | ll check later | 09:40 |
| gmann | andreaf: on account job, v3 one is also done | 09:40 |
| andreaf | gmann: I need a +W https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410677/ | 09:41 |
| gmann | andreaf: nice, +1 | 09:42 |
| gmann | andreaf: thanks | 09:42 |
| dmellado | andreaf: +1, added yolanda to have a look too | 09:42 |
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| gmann | dmellado: yolanda is near by you ? | 09:42 |
| dmellado | gmann: I was speaking with her just before the meeting, yeah | 09:42 |
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| oomichi | andreaf: is that voting job? | 09:43 |
| gmann | dmellado: can ask her to approve liberty job patches | 09:43 |
| dmellado | gmann: I guess she already did | 09:43 |
| dmellado | could you check? | 09:43 |
| gmann | oomichi: :) | 09:43 |
| andreaf | oomichi: experimental only | 09:43 |
| gmann | dmellado: nice thanks | 09:43 |
| dmellado | gmann: np | 09:43 |
| oomichi | andreaf: ah, I got it | 09:44 |
| oomichi | +1 | 09:44 |
| jordanP | btw, did you notice any failure with the ssh job ? | 09:44 |
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| gmann | jordanP: it was all ok till noon i think | 09:45 |
| gmann | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409670/ | 09:45 |
| masayukig | jordanP : link? | 09:45 |
| jordanP | no link, because no failure :) | 09:46 |
| jordanP | I want the job to be voting | 09:46 |
| masayukig | heh | 09:46 |
| jordanP | that's why I am asking if it's stable | 09:46 |
| gmann | jordanP: big +1 | 09:46 |
| gmann | may be we can do soon after health dashboard data of week or 2 | 09:46 |
| andreaf | jordanP: good point I need to check that | 09:46 |
| jordanP | what do you prefer guys: 1) make it voting ? 2) reconfigure gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ubuntu-xenial so that it enabled ssh-validation ? | 09:46 |
| oomichi | I tend to prefer 1) | 09:47 |
| gmann | only diff in both is ssh only right | 09:47 |
| dmellado | I'd take 1) as it'd be cool to have both of them just in case | 09:47 |
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| gmann | yea 1 make sense | 09:47 |
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| gmann | both would not be good, we can keep 1 i think | 09:48 |
| oomichi | it seems easy to distinguish different factor | 09:48 |
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| jordanP | ok | 09:48 |
| dmellado | yaeh, so agreed on 1) them? :D | 09:48 |
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| gmann | oh sorry | 09:48 |
| andreaf | gmann: you can use the agreed command again :D | 09:48 |
| gmann | i was on 2 side if only diff is ssh | 09:49 |
| gmann | after agree :) | 09:49 |
| andreaf | gmann: heh ok not yet | 09:49 |
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| gmann | if both same then we can make only single job | 09:49 |
| gmann | who want to check that | 09:50 |
| jordanP | (I prefer 2 myself) | 09:50 |
| jordanP | I'll check | 09:50 |
| gmann | jordanP: me too | 09:50 |
| gmann | jordanP: thanks | 09:50 |
| dmellado | jordanP: gmann: how about keeping both of them and drop after we're sure that it's stable | 09:50 |
| jordanP | we already have a big number of jobs | 09:50 |
| dmellado | if you're safe on that, then I don't really mind but I'll wait a bit | 09:50 |
| andreaf | #link http://status.openstack.org/openstack-health/#/g/build_name/periodic-tempest-dsvm-neutron-full-ssh-master | 09:50 |
| jordanP | we can take a small risk, given it will be easy to revert | 09:50 |
| gmann | #action jordanP to check diff between neutron jobs and ssh one | 09:50 |
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| gmann | andreaf: thanks | 09:51 |
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| jordanP | andreaf, thanks. So stable for the last 7 days, which is good | 09:51 |
| gmann | after 5 its looks stable | 09:51 |
| jordanP | thanks to andreaf's work | 09:51 |
| gmann | yea, nice work andreaf | 09:52 |
| masayukig | yeah | 09:52 |
| gmann | ok, only 8 min left | 09:52 |
| gmann | let;s move to next | 09:52 |
| andreaf | it was a lot of contributions from the team to make that job stable | 09:52 |
| gmann | we can skip devstack if nothing on that | 09:52 |
| dmellado | +1 on skip from my side | 09:52 |
| gmann | ok | 09:53 |
| gmann | #topic openstack-health | 09:53 |
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| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/openstack-health+status:open | 09:53 |
| gmann | masayukig: your turn | 09:53 |
| jordanP | I encourage tempest reviewers to also review devstack changes, it's really informative | 09:53 |
| masayukig | gmann : yeah, | 09:53 |
| andreaf | jordanP: +1 | 09:53 |
| gmann | jordanP: +1 | 09:53 |
| dmellado | yeah, totally | 09:54 |
| gmann | #agreed tempest reviewers to also review devstack changes, it's really informative | 09:54 |
| masayukig | jordanP : ++ | 09:54 |
| masayukig | heh | 09:54 |
| gmann | :( | 09:54 |
| masayukig | o-h: only one graph fix patch was approved, and there are some tiny fixing patches are there, but I think it's not so much active these week. | 09:54 |
| oomichi | not only devstack, all core projects ;) | 09:55 |
| andreaf | openstack=health is getting quite nice, it's faster now, and the user feedback and the graphs are nicer | 09:55 |
| andreaf | so good job on that! | 09:55 |
| gmann | very nice. | 09:55 |
| masayukig | andreaf : !!! :) | 09:55 |
| oomichi | yeah, it is easy to know the situation of all projects | 09:55 |
| masayukig | that's it from my side. | 09:56 |
| masayukig | 4 min | 09:56 |
| gmann | masayukig: ok, thanks for your hardwork on that | 09:56 |
| gmann | #topic Critical Reviews | 09:56 |
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| gmann | any critical reviews on priority | 09:56 |
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| gmann | ok, may be once gate is open :) | 09:57 |
| dmellado | heh | 09:57 |
| masayukig | :) | 09:57 |
| gmann | please check mine then | 09:57 |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409634/ | 09:57 |
| gmann | and dependent one | 09:58 |
| andreaf | one note from my side - a few periodic jobs have been renamed - the node type is not in the name (ubuntu-xenial) so you have to include that in case you had some bookmark | 09:58 |
| gmann | after object client to lib we can finish all service cleints | 09:58 |
| gmann | andreaf: nice thanks | 09:58 |
| andreaf | gmann: yay | 09:58 |
| jordanP | yeah, we should focus on finishing the migration | 09:58 |
| gmann | #info a few periodic jobs have been renamed - the node type is not in the name (ubuntu-xenial) so you have to include that in case you had some bookmark | 09:58 |
| dmellado | andreaf: so now avery node would be just ubuntu-xenial | 09:58 |
| gmann | jordanP: yea | 09:58 |
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| dmellado | and it's just not explicitly marked, isn't it? | 09:59 |
| jordanP | we are almost there | 09:59 |
| gmann | yea | 09:59 |
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| gmann | let;s jupo to open | 09:59 |
| gmann | #topic Open Discussion | 09:59 |
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| tosky | when is the right time to restart the disussion (pike) about always splitting tempest plugins (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/369749/) ? | 09:59 |
| dmellado | tosky: that's a good question too | 09:59 |
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| gmann | tosky: may be in feb starting | 10:00 |
| gmann | 1 min left | 10:00 |
| dmellado | just before the PTG, although I'm pretty sure we'll have to bring | 10:00 |
| dmellado | the cross-project session again | 10:00 |
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| * masayukig nods | 10:00 | |
| DavidPurcell | Speaking of splitting plugins, project for RBAC plugin is awaiting governance | 10:00 |
| gmann | ok thanks all, let's move to qa for further discussion if any | 10:00 |
| gmann | #endmeeting | 10:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 15 10:00:46 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 10:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-12-15-09.00.html | 10:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-12-15-09.00.txt | 10:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-12-15-09.00.log.html | 10:00 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: are you running the meeting today? | 14:02 |
| mriedem | crap | 14:03 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: can you run it? | 14:03 |
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| mriedem | i updated the agenda yesterday | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, no worries | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | agenda looks solid | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | coolio | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | #startmeeting nova | 14:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 15 14:03:30 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:03 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:03 |
| mriedem | o/ | 14:03 |
| gibi | o/ | 14:03 |
| markus_z | o/ | 14:03 |
| raj_singh | o/ | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | welcome all | 14:03 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:03 |
| macsz | O/ | 14:03 |
| alex_xu | o/ | 14:03 |
| cdent | o/ | 14:03 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Release News | 14:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Release News (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:03 | |
| johnthetubaguy | #link Ocata release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Ocata_Release_Schedule | 14:04 |
| thorst_ | o/ | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | #info The ocata-2 milestone is today (Dec 15) | 14:04 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link Ocata blueprints https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/ocata | 14:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #info 69 total blueprints, 10 implemented, 9 not started, 38 need code review | 14:04 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: do we have our tag up for ocata-2 yet? | 14:05 |
| lyarwood | o/ | 14:05 |
| mriedem | johnthetubaguy: i'm going to do it after https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410009/ merges | 14:05 |
| mriedem | reviewing ^ now | 14:05 |
| johnthetubaguy | coolness | 14:05 |
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| bauzas | \o | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | any other questions on the release from folks? | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | (that was my question) | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Bugs | 14:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:06 | |
| johnthetubaguy | #info no critical bugs open | 14:06 |
| johnthetubaguy | thorst_: did you have an update on powervm? | 14:07 |
| thorst_ | johnthetubaguy: yep | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link 3rd party CI status http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=nova&time=7+days | 14:07 |
| johnthetubaguy | thorst_: fire away | 14:07 |
| thorst_ | we had been stuck a bit on CI and I had been holding back reviews until we resolved that. | 14:07 |
| thorst_ | we've finally got the issues resolved, logs publishing and runs look good CI wise | 14:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | oh, cool, sounds like progress | 14:08 |
| thorst_ | we've got WIP reviews up, but are behind where I'd like to be for the driver. | 14:08 |
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| johnthetubaguy | did you do a heap of runs against master to check for stability? | 14:08 |
| thorst_ | live testing is going on there, as well as adding in the UT and trying to figure out how to make the reviews smaller... | 14:08 |
| thorst_ | yeah, we're testing every patch now | 14:08 |
| thorst_ | it's running against master...we've got like 6 running at the moment (that's all that came in so far) | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | OK, and seems to be holding up this lots of green? | 14:09 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, gotcha | 14:09 |
| thorst_ | results seem to be in line with the libvirt CI | 14:09 |
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| johnthetubaguy | its worth noting you are aiming for a higher pass rate than jenkins, generally | 14:09 |
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| thorst_ | johnthetubaguy: OK - I'll check with our CI guy on that | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | but thats statistics for you | 14:10 |
| thorst_ | this was just the result I had when I was researching our results this morning | 14:10 |
| thorst_ | but in general, I'm finally fairly happy with it. | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool, just a heads up, I know keeping the pass rate high is hard work, but any passes is much better that zero passes :) | 14:10 |
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| johnthetubaguy | sounds like good progress there | 14:10 |
| thorst_ | johnthetubaguy: yeah...lots of work...good work though. | 14:10 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, its amazing how it concentrates the mind on good things :) | 14:11 |
| thorst_ | heh | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | any more for bugs and CI status? | 14:11 |
| mriedem | yeah | 14:11 |
| mriedem | there is one on there for xenserver right? | 14:11 |
| mriedem | i took the citrix xenserver ci out of voting, | 14:11 |
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| johnthetubaguy | We should consider setting vif_plugging_is_fatal=False in Citrix XenServer CI jobs until https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1640993 is fixed. | 14:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1640993 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "xenserver hits vif plugging timeout with neutron CI job" [High,Confirmed] | 14:11 |
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| mriedem | it's been failing on vif plugging timeouts a lot lately | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | ha, thats a good spot | 14:11 |
| johnthetubaguy | I don't see BobBall here | 14:11 |
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| mriedem | i commented in the bug that i think they should set vif_plugging_is_fatal=False for the time being | 14:11 |
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| mriedem | the team is working some neutron patches for the agent used there | 14:12 |
| mriedem | sounds like perf issues are causing the timeouts | 14:12 |
| mriedem | anyway, just fyi | 14:12 |
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| mriedem | also, vmware ci is out of order, | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, wasn't sure if they have the event call back listening in place there yet | 14:12 |
| mriedem | i'm told they are working on it | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | but thats a good heads up | 14:12 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool, even better | 14:12 |
| mriedem | that's it from me | 14:13 |
| * mriedem goes to get kid ready for school | 14:13 | |
| johnthetubaguy | I will reach out and ask about the event call back listening, I know that was a TODO in there | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Reminders | 14:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #link Ocata review priorities https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:13 |
| johnthetubaguy | reviews please folks, thats a call out to everyone | 14:13 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/how_to_get_involved.html#why-do-code-reviews-if-i-am-not-in-nova-core | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | there are some words of inspiration if you are not sure why its worth doing reviews ^ | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | pro tip: you can try give that link to your manager too | 14:14 |
| johnthetubaguy | if that doesn't work, we need to update the doc so it does | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Stable branch status | 14:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | lyarwood did you want to take this bit? | 14:15 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker | 14:15 |
| lyarwood | nothing really of note this week, intel and xen ci has held up a few things | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | stable/newton: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/newton,n,z | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | stable/mitaka: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/mitaka,n,z | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | #info liberty is now end of life for nova | 14:15 |
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| mriedem | i'll be looking to do a newton or mitaka release soon | 14:15 |
| johnthetubaguy | #info <mriedem> i'll be looking to do a newton or mitaka release soon | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Subteam Highlights | 14:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Subteam Highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:16 | |
| johnthetubaguy | So who do we have around today? | 14:16 |
| johnthetubaguy | cells v2? dansmith? | 14:16 |
| edleafe | /me raises hand | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | edleafe: go for it | 14:17 |
| edleafe | Moved the "clean up Resource Tracker" series to "ready for general review" | 14:17 |
| edleafe | Clarified the model for representing Ironic nodes as Resource Providers | 14:17 |
| edleafe | Agreed to cancel the remaining December meetings | 14:17 |
| edleafe | Discussed moving the meeting time, but decided not to. | 14:17 |
| edleafe | that's it | 14:17 |
| sfinucan | Nothing to raise from the SR-IOV subteam | 14:17 |
| johnthetubaguy | tdurakov: live-migration? | 14:18 |
| tdurakov | hi, status update for live-migration team: | 14:18 |
| tdurakov | patches, that ready for review are in the etherpad, | 14:18 |
| tdurakov | hook for serial console looks ok, | 14:18 |
| tdurakov | bug with a rabbit that causes grenade multinode job for live-migration to fail due to https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1649586 | 14:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1649586 in OpenStack Compute (nova) ""HTTP exception thrown: Cannot 'os-migrateLive' instance while it is in task_state migrating" in gate-grenade-dsvm-neutron-multinode-live-migration-nv" [Medium,Confirmed] | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | rabbit bug, interesting? | 14:18 |
| tdurakov | see comment #7 | 14:18 |
| johnthetubaguy | looks like pkoniszewski has had a good look at this one | 14:19 |
| tdurakov | yes | 14:19 |
| johnthetubaguy | I wonder if the live-migrate stuff is using so much bandwidth it hurts rabbit? anyways interesting | 14:20 |
| tdurakov | not sure that it's the live-migration to cause this | 14:20 |
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| johnthetubaguy | API wise, some good progress with sdague back, with good follow up work from alex_xu | 14:20 |
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| johnthetubaguy | there is a good ML thread summary | 14:20 |
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| alex_xu | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-December/108944.html | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | ah, thanks | 14:21 |
| alex_xu | appreciate the help from johnthetubaguy and sdague | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393205/ | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | we are getting to the bottom of things, I hope now | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | we have found a way to make progress | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | it doesn't fix everything, but thats life | 14:21 |
| alex_xu | \o/ | 14:21 |
| johnthetubaguy | in other good news, it shouldn't break everything either | 14:22 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: any notifications things? | 14:22 |
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| gibi | nothing major | 14:22 |
| gibi | priority etherpad is up to date with reviews | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: you like predict my questions and answer them | 14:23 |
| gibi | next meeting will be held 2017 | 14:23 |
| gibi | 3rd of January | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | #help please all keep the sub team reviews up to date in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:23 |
| gibi | if time allows I will have a technical question at the end | 14:23 |
| johnthetubaguy | cool | 14:24 |
| johnthetubaguy | for cells #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova_cells/2016/nova_cells.2016-12-14-21.00.html | 14:24 |
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| johnthetubaguy | mriedem: I don't think quota classes does anything, requires out of tree stuff no one has ever build, as far as I know | 14:25 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think kevin has more info on that | 14:25 |
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| johnthetubaguy | OK... | 14:26 |
| johnthetubaguy | #topic Open discussion | 14:26 |
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| johnthetubaguy | gibi: I think you get to go first | 14:26 |
| gibi | ok | 14:26 |
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| gibi | it is all about lazy loaded object fields | 14:27 |
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| gibi | first we discussed with dansmith that in case of flavor notification | 14:27 |
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| gibi | addin the flavor.projects to the payload is not a real performance issue | 14:27 |
| gibi | as the flavor operations are infrequent | 14:27 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, that seems fair | 14:28 |
| gibi | but later on we realized that when the patch extends the FlavorPayload with the projects | 14:28 |
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| gibi | all the instance action notifications will start requiring the flavor.projects | 14:28 |
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| gibi | as InstancePayload has a flavor field which is a FlavorPayload object | 14:28 |
| johnthetubaguy | FlavorDetailsPayload? | 14:29 |
| gibi | one more thing | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | extends FlavorPayload? | 14:29 |
| johnthetubaguy | it doesn't seem like the instance ones need that much info I guess? | 14:29 |
| gibi | the test does not show that lazy load would happen at all | 14:29 |
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| gibi | and that would be my first question | 14:29 |
| gibi | is it possibel | 14:30 |
| gibi | that when the flavor field of the an instance object is loaded | 14:30 |
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| gibi | then the whole flavor object is loaded with it | 14:30 |
| gibi | ? | 14:30 |
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| gibi | including the flavor.projects lazy fields | 14:30 |
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| gibi | but I agree that if there is extra load then we can avoid that here with an extended FlavorPayload class | 14:31 |
| gibi | but I was not able to confirm the extra load with the functional tests | 14:32 |
| johnthetubaguy | maybe we should take this offline in the channel | 14:32 |
| gibi | OK | 14:32 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I can have a read of the code with you | 14:32 |
| gibi | thanks | 14:32 |
| gibi | I will have a related question If possible :) | 14:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | it looks like it just gets the basic stuff, looking at here: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/instance.py#L879 | 14:33 |
| johnthetubaguy | sure | 14:33 |
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| gibi | so | 14:34 |
| gibi | searchlight guys | 14:34 |
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| gibi | want to extend the InstancePayload with instance.tags | 14:34 |
| gibi | and that is again a lazy loaded field :) | 14:34 |
| gibi | the problem is similar | 14:34 |
| gibi | if we extend the InstancePayload then every instance action will cause the tags to be loaded | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | so we can always load tags by default, so its there more often | 14:35 |
| gibi | would it be a performance problem? | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | but thats could be quite a bit of extra cost | 14:35 |
| gibi | I mean loading it by default | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | its better than lazy loading it so often | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | now... if we make sure we don't access the attribute, if we don't send the notification | 14:35 |
| johnthetubaguy | i.e. avoid the lazy load, unless notifications are actually going somewhere, maybe thats an OK trade off | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | having a look, it seems like instance does not load the projects by default, but I could be reading it wrongly: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/flavor.py#L277 | 14:36 |
| johnthetubaguy | of course, I just answered your question with a question | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | but does that help? | 14:37 |
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| gibi | I think today we cannot decide if the notification will be emited or not on the message bus | 14:37 |
| gibi | that happens inside oslo | 14:37 |
| johnthetubaguy | yeah, seems like we need to be able to get oslo to tell us about that | 14:38 |
| gibi | should we block the searchlight bp until oslo is extended? | 14:38 |
| johnthetubaguy | or give it some function to call only if it actually sends the message, like a message generator function | 14:38 |
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| johnthetubaguy | so we only need to block the really expensive ones I guess | 14:39 |
| gibi | do you think instance.tags are expensive? :) | 14:39 |
| gibi | sorry for the amount of questions | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | good question, not sure its terrible, honestly | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | its well indexed I believe | 14:39 |
| johnthetubaguy | maybe its worth just adding tags into the things we return by default | 14:40 |
| gibi | what do yo mean 'return by default'? | 14:40 |
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| johnthetubaguy | I should get you a link, one sec | 14:41 |
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| johnthetubaguy | gibi: https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/objects/instance.py#L66 | 14:42 |
| johnthetubaguy | we could add tags into that list | 14:42 |
| gibi | ahh I see | 14:42 |
| gibi | so tags are considered cheap enough to load by default | 14:43 |
| gibi | that works for me | 14:43 |
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| gibi | I will ping you with the flavor stuff later on the channel | 14:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | actually, not sure that variable does what I thought it might, that list might be else where, but its tempting | 14:43 |
| johnthetubaguy | gibi: I linked a few things above, it looks to me like flavor.projects is lazy loaded, even inside instance.flavor | 14:43 |
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| johnthetubaguy | any more for any more? | 14:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | I think we can move the above debate into the nova chnnel | 14:44 |
| gibi | johnthetubaguy: agree to move, thanks | 14:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | unsure on the next meeting, I know I will be eating turkey in london at that time | 14:44 |
| johnthetubaguy | I am sure the ML will inform us shortly | 14:45 |
| johnthetubaguy | thanks all | 14:45 |
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| johnthetubaguy | #endmeeting | 14:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 15 14:45:13 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-12-15-14.03.html | 14:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-12-15-14.03.txt | 14:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-12-15-14.03.log.html | 14:45 |
| edleafe | thanks johnthetubaguy | 14:45 |
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