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| sridhar_ram | #startmeeting tacker | 05:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 05:30:13 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sridhar_ram. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 05:30 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 05:30 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Roll Call | 05:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 05:30 | |
| janki | o/ | 05:30 |
| sridhar_ram | who is here for tacker meeting? | 05:30 |
| dkushwaha | o/ | 05:30 |
| sripriya | o/ | 05:30 |
| ruijie | o/ | 05:31 |
| tung_ | o/ | 05:31 |
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| elynn__ | o/ | 05:31 |
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| s3wong | o/ | 05:31 |
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| haiwei_ | 0/ | 05:32 |
| sridhar_ram | howdy all !! | 05:32 |
| sridhar_ram | welcome to the new timeslot! | 05:32 |
| sridhar_ram | let's start.. | 05:32 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Agenda | 05:32 |
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| sridhar_ram | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker#Meeting_Dec_14th.2C_2016 | 05:32 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Announcments | 05:32 |
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| sridhar_ram | #info https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html | 05:32 |
| sridhar_ram | 5 weeks until Ocata Feature Freeze | 05:33 |
| sridhar_ram | .. please get in your client and API changes as soon as possible | 05:33 |
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| sridhar_ram | nothing else announce | 05:34 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Spec-less blueprints rundown | 05:34 |
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| sridhar_ram | We now allow some simple enhancements to be submitted *without* a need to write a details spec | 05:35 |
| sridhar_ram | I still like to run them in the weekly meeting at regular intervals to bring it to team's attention. | 05:35 |
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| sridhar_ram | Please voice your thoughts as I run them down, particularly if you think some of them more information or we should not approve | 05:36 |
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| sridhar_ram | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/deprecate-legacy-template-dsl | 05:36 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, Thanks for assigning me, as i am already working on it | 05:37 |
| sridhar_ram | pretty straight forward, the VNF template we introduced in May 2015 will now be completely removed | 05:37 |
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| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: thanks and glad to see the patcshets are already in :) | 05:37 |
| sridhar_ram | any questions on this BP ? | 05:38 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, no | 05:38 |
| sridhar_ram | next.. | 05:38 |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/switch-to-keystoneauth | 05:38 |
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| sridhar_ram | this already got merged, so moving on | 05:38 |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/vnffgd-param-support | 05:39 |
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| sridhar_ram | This is an important BP | 05:39 |
| sridhar_ram | .. it brings in parameter support for VNF Forwarding Graph | 05:39 |
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| sridhar_ram | The idea is these BPs don't have any controversial design plots to debate.. | 05:40 |
| sridhar_ram | next.. | 05:40 |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/hot-template-support | 05:40 |
| sridhar_ram | I'd like to get team's opinion on this... | 05:40 |
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| sridhar_ram | This BP proposes to use Tacker for hosting HOT templates in its catalog | 05:41 |
| sridhar_ram | Thoughts? | 05:41 |
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| haiwei_ | I am not sure why this feature is needed? | 05:42 |
| dkushwaha | +1 | 05:42 |
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| sridhar_ram | The motivation behind this is, some operators have a mix of TOSCA templates and HOT templates in this ops and now they can use a single service (Tacker) to instantiate both | 05:42 |
| sridhar_ram | s/this ops/their ops/ | 05:43 |
| sripriya | is this separate from the feature implementing direct vnfd template? | 05:43 |
| sridhar_ram | I do see some challenges in our API response, particular for fields like mgmt_ip in vnf-create response | 05:43 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: yes, they are unrelated to each other | 05:44 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: thanks for the resp | 05:44 |
| sripriya | is this feature supposed to support monitoring and mgmt driver support? | 05:45 |
| janki | sridhar_ram, mgmt_driver info too is derived from tosca template | 05:45 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: it won't support any TOSCA features.. it is a pure passthru' to Heat Client | 05:45 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: then wouldnt the customer directly use heat? | 05:45 |
| tung_ | sripriya: for alarm monitor, it help alot | 05:46 |
| haiwei_ | then how to configure monitoring and mgmt driver? | 05:46 |
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| sridhar_ram | haiwei_: entities beyond and above tacker need to have any monitoring and mgmt of the VMs spawned using HOT template | 05:47 |
| sridhar_ram | however, we atleast need to export the ip addresses of the VMs | 05:47 |
| sridhar_ram | again, I'm wondering if we are opening a can of worm with this BP | 05:47 |
| haiwei_ | sridhar_ram, that mean user needs to prepare for two templates? | 05:47 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: i understand the need for aggregating a catalog with both tosca and heat templates | 05:48 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: the main diff I see with this vs directly calling Heat client is .. you can upload your HOT template in the catalog and instantiate many stacks using that. | 05:48 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: probably worth visiting this once we come up with a separate catalog module | 05:48 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: that could work too.. | 05:49 |
| sridhar_ram | how many of you think this needs more thought, perhaps we should write a proper spec ? | 05:49 |
| janki | sridhar_ram, +1 to spec | 05:49 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram:+1 | 05:50 |
| haiwei_ | +1 for spec | 05:50 |
| tung_ | sridhar_ram: +1 for this spec | 05:50 |
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| sridhar_ram | alright, spec it is :) | 05:50 |
| sridhar_ram | haiwei_: why do you think we need two templates ? | 05:50 |
| dkushwaha | haiwei_, IMO ueser should not prepare for both, but can have choice for both. | 05:51 |
| janki | sripriya, what do you mean by separate catalog module? | 05:51 |
| haiwei_ | sridhar_ram: I misunderstood it I think | 05:51 |
| sridhar_ram | haiwei_: no worries | 05:51 |
| sripriya | janki; right now we have catalog integrated in to vnfm and have separate resources for each of vnfd, vnffgd and nsd | 05:51 |
| sripriya | janki: we will need to refactor that to come up with a generic catalog module handling multiple catalog types | 05:52 |
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| janki | sripriya, are you saying to separate vnfd and vnf logic from a single file? | 05:52 |
| * sridhar_ram notes to write a BP in launchpad for that | 05:53 | |
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| sripriya | janki: yeah | 05:53 |
| sripriya | janki: we can put it that way | 05:53 |
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| janki | sripriya, sridhar_ram that is really nice. I would like to take it up if noone is taking | 05:54 |
| sridhar_ram | I'll write a BP, it is more a refactoring activity and it is a reasonable one | 05:54 |
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| sridhar_ram | #action sridhar_ram to write a BP request in launchpad for common template catalog across vnfm and nfvo | 05:55 |
| janki | sridhar_ram, please assign it to me if there is no owner | 05:55 |
| sridhar_ram | janki: sure, will do! thanks | 05:55 |
| janki | sridhar_ram, thanks | 05:55 |
| sridhar_ram | moving to the next topic.. | 05:55 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Refactor openstack driver | 05:55 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Refactor openstack driver (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 05:55 | |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://review.openstack.org/405276 | 05:56 |
| * sridhar_ram is wondering if Kanagaraj is here | 05:56 | |
| sripriya | haiwei_: thanks for taking this up! | 05:57 |
| sridhar_ram | haiwei_: I see test_vnf_tosca_scale func test is still failing, any clue? | 05:57 |
| haiwei_ | sridhar_ram, I am still investigating it | 05:57 |
| sridhar_ram | haiwei_: okay, np... | 05:57 |
| haiwei_ | sridhar_ram, will keep on it later | 05:57 |
| sridhar_ram | I really happy we have a decent collection of func test to do these surgical refactoring .. god bless dsvm gate :) | 05:58 |
| sridhar_ram | as I left in the comment, we need a follow on to consolidate the vnfm openstack driver with nfvo one at https://github.com/openstack/tacker/blob/master/tacker/nfvo/drivers/vim/openstack_driver.py | 05:59 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: what do you think? | 05:59 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: i need to take a look into the patch, will try to review it soon | 05:59 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: but i agree with you on the consolidation part | 06:00 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: okay, thanks | 06:00 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: in to VIM module | 06:00 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: it is mostly code shifting, correct? wondering if this can be absorbed in Ocata | 06:01 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: i think yes | 06:02 |
| sridhar_ram | okay | 06:02 |
| sridhar_ram | haiwei_: anything else on this topic? | 06:02 |
| haiwei_ | no | 06:02 |
| sridhar_ram | moving on | 06:02 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Tacker-Senlin integration spec | 06:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tacker-Senlin integration spec (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 06:02 | |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352943/ | 06:02 |
| sridhar_ram | xuan0802_: haiwei_: is this something you can finish in Ocata ? | 06:03 |
| haiwei_ | sridhar_ram, I think we can :) | 06:03 |
| haiwei_ | sridhar_ram: we can get help from the guys in Senlin team | 06:04 |
| sridhar_ram | okay | 06:04 |
| sridhar_ram | the main concern i have is dependency of Senlin service for Tacker... | 06:04 |
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| haiwei_ | sridhar_ram: yes, I understand, but it should be no problem imo | 06:05 |
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| haiwei_ | sridhar_ram: Senlin has good team, and keep getting the project better and better | 06:05 |
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| sridhar_ram | I haven't tracked Senlin recently.. glad to hear that | 06:06 |
| sridhar_ram | does Senlin do regular cycle release ? | 06:06 |
| haiwei_ | sridhar_ram: In fact you can ask any questions related to senlin in IRC channel | 06:06 |
| haiwei_ | sridhar_ram: of course, Senlin will release regularly | 06:07 |
| sridhar_ram | haiwei_: thanks | 06:07 |
| elynn__ | @sridhar_ram mitaka is 1.0.0 and newton is 2.0.0 | 06:07 |
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| sridhar_ram | elynn__: thanks! | 06:08 |
| elynn__ | And senlin follows the milestones of openstack community. | 06:08 |
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| sridhar_ram | elynn__: cool | 06:08 |
| sridhar_ram | haiwei_: are there any plans beyond auto-scaling for Tacker+Senlin ? | 06:08 |
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| haiwei_ | sridhar_ram: yes, besides auto-scaling, senlin also has policies for HA | 06:09 |
| haiwei_ | I think it is the next step is inviting senlin's HA policy to Tacker | 06:10 |
| sridhar_ram | okay, the reason for my question is .. we are putting tacker users and devs into some level of pain by introducing Senlin to support a feature that already exists.. want to make sure we have plans to introduce enhanced tacker features using senlin integration | 06:10 |
| haiwei_ | This is a big topic, so I didn't write the details in the Senlin integration spec | 06:11 |
| sridhar_ram | haiwei_: totally agree, we have now is the right approach.. | 06:11 |
| sridhar_ram | now, when can be bring in HA support using senlin ? | 06:12 |
| sridhar_ram | Pike ? | 06:12 |
| sridhar_ram | s/can be/can we/ | 06:12 |
| haiwei_ | srihar_ram: I am not sure introducing Senlin is a pain, maybe it can be the only auto-scaling solution in Tacker someday | 06:12 |
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| sridhar_ram | haiwei_: i'm sure senlin is a high quality service to depend on... | 06:13 |
| haiwei_ | sridhar_ram: HA support in Senlin has some problems on lbaas, because lbaas is deprecated, and there is a bug there | 06:13 |
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| sridhar_ram | haiwei_: I see, perhaps we can plan that for Pike release | 06:13 |
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| haiwei_ | sridhar_ram: yes | 06:14 |
| Qiming | the bug is only relevant if you want a LBaaS based node failure detection, we are bugging the Octavia team | 06:14 |
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| sridhar_ram | my understanding is Tacker will not have a library dependency on Senlin, rather it will have indirect dependency through Heat / HOT Senlin node types ? | 06:15 |
| sridhar_ram | is this understanding correct? | 06:15 |
| Qiming | sridhar_ram, I'd suggest Tacker to depend on openstacksdk, :) | 06:16 |
| Qiming | Senlin is not depending on any service clients or libraries other than openstacksdk | 06:16 |
| sridhar_ram | Qiming: we can always do that, but my question still remains | 06:16 |
| haiwei_ | sridhar_ram: I am afraid Tacker needs to depend on Senlin library | 06:17 |
| Qiming | service level, you will have that dependency | 06:17 |
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| sridhar_ram | so, it is Tacker --> Senlin --> Heat ? | 06:17 |
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| haiwei_ | sridhar_ram: it is Tacker -> Heat -> Senlin -> Heat | 06:17 |
| Qiming | it depends on how you will use senlin features | 06:18 |
| sridhar_ram | haiwei_: ouch, that's a recursion ;-) | 06:18 |
| Qiming | if you would rather to stick to Heat templates | 06:18 |
| Qiming | the dependency would be Tacker -> Heat -> Senlin | 06:18 |
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| Qiming | if you do want more knobs on managing your resource pool, you can interact with Senlin directly | 06:19 |
| sridhar_ram | Qiming: haiwei_: can we see if we can stick to Tacker -> Heat -> Senlin .. | 06:19 |
| Qiming | behind the scene, Senlin can invoke either Heat or Nova directly to get the job done | 06:19 |
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| Qiming | as a first step POC, that is a reasonable, viable approach | 06:20 |
| sridhar_ram | Qiming: good | 06:20 |
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| sridhar_ram | haiwei_: what do you think? | 06:20 |
| haiwei_ | sridhar_ram: According to my spec, the process should be Tacker-> Heat -> Senlin, after senlin is deployed, the auto scaling is controlled by Senlin | 06:21 |
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| sridhar_ram | haiwei_: okay, we are good then.. again with this approach there shouldn't be any requirements.txt dep to senlinclient | 06:22 |
| haiwei_ | sridhar_ram: If you want to make it Tacker -> Senlin directly, there will be big changes in Tacker | 06:22 |
| sripriya | haiwei: is it possible to manually scale using senlin? | 06:22 |
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| sripriya | haiwei_: ^ | 06:22 |
| haiwei_ | sripriya: of course | 06:22 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: good catch.. | 06:23 |
| Qiming | #link http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/clustering/ | 06:23 |
| sridhar_ram | haiwei_: please clarify the manual scaling support in your spec... | 06:23 |
| haiwei_ | sridhar_ram: if you want to make it manually scalable, you need to use Senlinclient | 06:23 |
| sridhar_ram | haiwei_: ouch | 06:23 |
| Qiming | ... or you should skip senlinclient completely | 06:24 |
| sridhar_ram | haiwei_: we can't get away with a stack-update like we are currently doing for ASG based solution ? | 06:24 |
| elynn__ | Or use senlin receiver to scale a cluster. | 06:24 |
| * sridhar_ram notes 5mins left | 06:24 | |
| Qiming | the goal of maitaining senlinclient, beyond Pike cycle, would be only for OSC plugins | 06:24 |
| haiwei_ | sridhar_ram: there is no way to make a service working if you have no client , right? | 06:24 |
| Qiming | we will recommend using openstacksdk directly | 06:24 |
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| Qiming | Heat is not talking to senlin via senlinclient, correct? elynn__ ? | 06:25 |
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| elynn__ | Heat is talking with senlin via senlinclient | 06:25 |
| sridhar_ram | Qiming: i'm interchangably using senlinclient and openstacksdk client.. i was trying to avoid code level API dependency and get away with just HOT template based senlin dependency | 06:25 |
| elynn__ | not openstacksdk yet. | 06:25 |
| elynn__ | https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/requirements.txt#L50 | 06:26 |
| sridhar_ram | Folks - we got to wrap this discussion up, we are almost out of time | 06:26 |
| sridhar_ram | haiwei_: if you can zoom in on two aspects (a) manual scale support and (b) avoid direct API dependency | 06:27 |
| sridhar_ram | we can take the discussion to gerrit | 06:27 |
| sridhar_ram | sounds good ? | 06:27 |
| haiwei_ | sridhar_ram: I will update the spec | 06:27 |
| sridhar_ram | haiwei_: thanks | 06:28 |
| sridhar_ram | thanks senlin team for bringing this in.. and this lively discussion | 06:28 |
| haiwei_ | nope | 06:28 |
| Qiming | glad to help | 06:28 |
| sridhar_ram | if needed we can take it up again in next week's call | 06:28 |
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| sridhar_ram | hope we can wrap up in gerrit itself | 06:28 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Open Discussion | 06:29 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 06:29 | |
| sridhar_ram | hope this time works for most of you | 06:29 |
| sridhar_ram | i still don't see gongysh | 06:29 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, it seems I am not used to it yet. | 06:29 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: ah,you are lurking ..! | 06:29 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: good to buzz interested folks at the start of the meeting | 06:29 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: it was actually the same old time we had with yamahata :-) | 06:29 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: we will fix that | 06:29 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: folsk can add their irc handles in tacker wiki meeting page | 06:30 |
| sridhar_ram | alright.. times up..! | 06:30 |
| sripriya | folsk* | 06:30 |
| sripriya | folks | 06:30 |
| sridhar_ram | i see some new irc handles.. welcome to tacker | 06:30 |
| sridhar_ram | #endmeeting | 06:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 06:30 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 06:30:33 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2016/tacker.2016-12-14-05.30.html | 06:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2016/tacker.2016-12-14-05.30.txt | 06:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2016/tacker.2016-12-14-05.30.log.html | 06:30 |
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| ramishra | #startmeeting heat | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 08:00:16 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ramishra. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: heat)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 08:00 |
| ramishra | #topic roll call | 08:00 |
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| huangtianhua | hi:) | 08:01 |
| elynn__ | this meeting is conflict with my other meeting.. | 08:02 |
| ramishra | elynn__: ok np:) | 08:02 |
| ramishra | not many around. | 08:03 |
| shizhihui_ | hi, all | 08:03 |
| ramishra | shizhihui_: hi | 08:03 |
| ramishra | let's just move on and finish it quickly. | 08:03 |
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| ramishra | #topic adding items to agenda | 08:03 |
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| ramishra | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282016-12-14_0800_UTC.29 | 08:03 |
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| ramishra | there are only 2 items. | 08:04 |
| ramishra | #topic ocata-2 status | 08:05 |
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| ramishra | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/ocata-2 | 08:05 |
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| ramishra | huangtianhua: I think the composite alarm patch would land soon | 08:05 |
| ramishra | would you please change that bp once it lands? | 08:05 |
| huangtianhua | sure | 08:06 |
| huangtianhua | I hope this land before o-2 | 08:06 |
| huangtianhua | :) | 08:06 |
| ramishra | it's approved right? | 08:06 |
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| ramishra | I'm going to cut the release only tomorrow. | 08:06 |
| huangtianhua | yes | 08:06 |
| ramishra | there 9 bugs In progess | 08:07 |
| huangtianhua | the jenkins is running | 08:07 |
| ramishra | request all to review them. | 08:08 |
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| huangtianhua | will review them later:) all of them are in-progress | 08:08 |
| ramishra | ricolin, I'll move bug 1640829 to ocata-3 | 08:09 |
| openstack | bug 1640829 in heat "need option to by pass stack validation" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1640829 - Assigned to Rico Lin (rico-lin) | 08:09 |
| ramishra | I don't think the patches can land in 2 days. | 08:09 |
| ramishra | Rest all look ok. | 08:09 |
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| ramishra | #topic OpenStack sample workload templates | 08:11 |
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| huangtianhua | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1637304 I think we should move this to o-3 too | 08:11 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1637304 in heat "Zaqar queue can be inadvertently deleted" [Low,Triaged] - Assigned to Jason Dunsmore (jasondunsmore) | 08:11 |
| ramishra | #link http://www.openstack.org/software/sample-configs/#web-applications | 08:11 |
| ramishra | huangtianhua: I don't know what's there left in that bug to fix | 08:12 |
| ramishra | so coming back to this topic | 08:12 |
| ramishra | Enterprise Working Group is working on the reference architectures for all these workloads. | 08:13 |
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| ramishra | they have requested if someone from the heat team can help them with this. | 08:14 |
| ramishra | This is a way to make heat more visible as a project too. | 08:14 |
| ramishra | if anyone is interested, please let me know. | 08:15 |
| huangtianhua | seems only me here :) | 08:15 |
| ramishra | yeah:) | 08:15 |
| ramishra | let's finish this quickly. | 08:15 |
| ramishra | If we don't have attendance in these meetings, we may postpone it to later in the day. | 08:16 |
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| ramishra | #topic open discussion | 08:16 |
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| ramishra | I would like more feedback on the rolling upgrade spec | 08:17 |
| ramishra | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407989/ | 08:17 |
| huangtianhua | I think it's good start | 08:17 |
| ramishra | We need to setup a multinode grenade job to test it. | 08:18 |
| huangtianhua | and the way looks like so easy | 08:18 |
| ramishra | yeah, we should do as little as possible and make it work:) | 08:19 |
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| ramishra | if anyone wants to help me please let me know | 08:19 |
| Qiming | it has to be multi-node? | 08:19 |
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| huangtianhua | yes, I think so | 08:20 |
| ramishra | Qiming: I mean we need 2 engines one newton and one ocata for the tests | 08:20 |
| Qiming | em ... guess so, we address api by ports | 08:20 |
| ramishra | yeah api services too | 08:20 |
| ramishra | Qiming: we agreed in the last meeting that we are ok for API V2 | 08:21 |
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| Qiming | good news | 08:21 |
| ramishra | if anyone wants to work in it. | 08:21 |
| ramishra | on it. | 08:22 |
| Qiming | I think huangtianhua is interested | 08:22 |
| huangtianhua | I would love on the v2 | 08:22 |
| huangtianhua | yes, you are right:) | 08:22 |
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| Qiming | bingo! | 08:22 |
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| Qiming | I'd like to serve you on this, :) | 08:22 |
| ramishra | I have got reuests from other people. | 08:23 |
| ramishra | I'll redirect them;) | 08:23 |
| Qiming | cool | 08:23 |
| ramishra | ok, I'm done | 08:23 |
| ramishra | Anything else? | 08:23 |
| Qiming | API is the most valuable assets from OS | 08:23 |
| Qiming | nothing from me | 08:23 |
| huangtianhua | nothing from me | 08:24 |
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| ramishra | ok, thanks all for joining. | 08:24 |
| ramishra | #endmeeting heat | 08:24 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 08:24:53 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-12-14-08.00.html | 08:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-12-14-08.00.txt | 08:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2016/heat.2016-12-14-08.00.log.html | 08:24 |
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| joehuang | hello | 13:00 |
| Yipei_ | hello | 13:00 |
| zhiyuan | hi | 13:00 |
| joehuang | #startmeeting tricircle | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 13:00:25 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is joehuang. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| hejiawei | hi | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tricircle)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tricircle' | 13:00 |
| joehuang | #topic rollcall | 13:00 |
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| joehuang | #info joehuang | 13:00 |
| zhiyuan | #info zhiyuan | 13:00 |
| longxiongqiu | #info longxiongqiu | 13:01 |
| Yipei_ | #info Yipei | 13:01 |
| hejiawei | #info jiawei | 13:01 |
| RongHui11 | #info ronghui | 13:01 |
| liukun | #info liukun | 13:01 |
| yinxiulin | #info xiulin | 13:01 |
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| joehuang | #topic VxLAN L2 networking across Neutron feature | 13:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "VxLAN L2 networking across Neutron feature (Meeting topic: tricircle)" | 13:02 | |
| joehuang | currently the combined bridge network spec is approaching to be merged | 13:02 |
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| joehuang | but still want to wait for more review comment for one to two week | 13:03 |
| joehuang | and the code is also submitted by zhiyuan for review too | 13:03 |
| liuzeyu | #info liuzeyu | 13:03 |
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| joehuang | it's time for use to start the discussion of VxLAN L2 networking across Neutron | 13:03 |
| joehuang | as you know, currently only shared VLAN is supported | 13:04 |
| joehuang | Junsik told me he is not able to attend the meeting, but he sent me some info about his experiment on L2 networking across openstack cloud | 13:05 |
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| joehuang | your thoughts? | 13:05 |
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| zhiyuan | how did Junsik do the experiment? manually add the flow? | 13:06 |
| joehuang | To connect Multi-region OpenStack instances, I add an additional bridge named "br-cap" and configure tunnel ports on the bridge. And the bridge "br-cap" is controlled by ONOS SDN controller. | 13:07 |
| joehuang | To automate the configuration, I introduced a concept of template-based automation . I defined a self-defined template format to describe virtual network topology over multiple servers. | 13:07 |
| joehuang | Then my tool automates the configuration of OVS bridges and VXLAN ports via OVSDB protocol, and calls ONOS APIs to down OpenFlow rules to "br-cap" bridges. | 13:07 |
| joehuang | As the basic flow rules, we just set broadcast flow rules not fine-grained flow rules. For example, a packet arrives br-cap from br-int, then "br-cap" broadcast the packet to all tunnels. | 13:07 |
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| joehuang | the picture can not be pasted here | 13:07 |
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| joehuang | the idea is interesting | 13:09 |
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| zhiyuan | the ONOS SDN controller interact with Neutron server via ML2 mechanism driver? | 13:10 |
| joehuang | I don't think so | 13:11 |
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| joehuang | we need to have a meeting to discuss this with Junsik | 13:11 |
| Yipei_ | so one port of the br-cap connects to br-int, the other connects to the br-tun? | 13:12 |
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| zhiyuan | i think br-tun is not needed | 13:12 |
| zhiyuan | br-cap does the work | 13:13 |
| joehuang | I'll try to find a place to put the pictures sent by Junsik | 13:13 |
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| joehuang | and during the barcelona summit,when we talked with Kevin about the L2 networking across Neutron, Kevin prefer to rk across Neutron | 13:14 |
| Yipei_ | is it ok for neutron community that we abandon br-tun? | 13:14 |
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| joehuang | and Kevin prefer to store the vtep in port binding info for push notification | 13:15 |
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| joehuang | and by the way for external communication | 13:15 |
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| joehuang | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-November/107061.html | 13:16 |
| joehuang | It take times to think over the method for VxLAN l2 networking across Neutron | 13:18 |
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| joehuang | let's have a meeting at 10:00am (utc 2:00am), I'll provide an etherpad link tomorrow in IRC | 13:19 |
| zhiyuan | ok | 13:19 |
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| joehuang | #action have a online meeting to discuss VxLAN l2 networking across Neutron | 13:20 |
| Yipei_ | tomorrow？ | 13:20 |
| joehuang | #info on UTC2:00am Dec 15 | 13:20 |
| joehuang | #info i.e Beijing time 10:00 am Dec.15, Korea/Japan 11:00 am Dec 15 | 13:21 |
| joehuang | #info etherpad link will be provided in IRC | 13:21 |
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| joehuang | #topic Ocata feature development review | 13:22 |
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| joehuang | let's have a short review on the feature development | 13:22 |
| joehuang | please describe shortly and discuss as needed | 13:22 |
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| longxiongqiu | qos code has completed , i need some time to test in two nodes envir | 13:24 |
| RongHui11 | fix some environment patch and continue to perfect the configuration guide | 13:24 |
| Yipei_ | for lbaas, learn to write lbaas service plugin, and writing spec. | 13:24 |
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| zhiyuan | (1) patch to fix resource deletion has got one +2 (2) patch for bridge network combination is still under review, as Joe mentioned (3) a new patch to adpat DVR in cross-pod l3 networking has been submitted (4) start to consider async job reliability improvement | 13:24 |
| joehuang | o, xiongqiu, your blueprint and spec also needed | 13:24 |
| yinxiulin | I am doing network and subnet resources update | 13:25 |
| joehuang | to Ronghui, good, configuration guide is better and better | 13:25 |
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| dongfeng | releasenote for routing api is delayed for there is a math test this week. and i will deal with it this weekend. | 13:25 |
| joehuang | to Zhiyuan, great progress! | 13:26 |
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| joehuang | to Xiulin, keep going | 13:26 |
| yinxiulin | ok, i will | 13:26 |
| joehuang | to Dongfeng, it's ok for release notes, it's not very urgent | 13:26 |
| dongfeng | ok. | 13:27 |
| longxiongqiu | ok | 13:27 |
| joehuang | to Yipei, good, for LBaaS, we may need some online discuss, could you organize it? | 13:27 |
| joehuang | before you submit the spec | 13:28 |
| Yipei_ | ok | 13:28 |
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| hejiawei | for me, I am claening tables,but when some tables removed,related futures should update. | 13:29 |
| Yipei_ | i will create an etherpad and write down some items to be discussed, when i have a better understanding of lbaas | 13:29 |
| joehuang | to Jiawei, which feature needs to update, you mean the az_hint for external network? | 13:30 |
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| hejiawei | yes. | 13:32 |
| joehuang | is there any other features need to update? | 13:32 |
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| dongfeng | pod binding api and its doc should be removed,and resource api shoud be changed too | 13:33 |
| dongfeng | resource routing api shoud be changed too | 13:33 |
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| joehuang | for pod table, how do you think about to change the pod_name to region_name | 13:34 |
| hejiawei | I just remove some tables that not need update future | 13:34 |
| joehuang | it's ok to clean step by step | 13:34 |
| joehuang | with several patches | 13:35 |
| joehuang | small patch will get merged sooner | 13:35 |
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| joehuang | to Dongfeng, yes, these should be update too | 13:35 |
| hejiawei | so,next week,maybe I will meet some trouble,I am going to ask you in irc | 13:35 |
| joehuang | no problem, welcome | 13:35 |
| joehuang | for pod_name, I searched the repository, seems 30 places found | 13:36 |
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| dongfeng | could i complete the pod binding api clean part? | 13:36 |
| hejiawei | of course. :) | 13:36 |
| dongfeng | including pod binding api clean, it's doc clean, and resource api update. | 13:37 |
| joehuang | yes, dongfeng, please | 13:37 |
| joehuang | it's open source | 13:37 |
| joehuang | colloboration is welcome | 13:37 |
| dongfeng | fine. i will deal with them later. | 13:37 |
| RongHui11 | it also need some synchronize from tricircle to trio2o and i am working on it | 13:37 |
| joehuang | ok, Ronghui | 13:38 |
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| joehuang | #info smaller patch will get merged sooner | 13:38 |
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| joehuang | for az_hint, I have one idea | 13:39 |
| joehuang | usually az_hint will be put with az name list | 13:39 |
| joehuang | but for tricircle, we map az to region | 13:39 |
| joehuang | and for external network, input region in az_hint | 13:40 |
| joehuang | so when there is need to lookup the az, will search the pod first | 13:40 |
| joehuang | and if the az name in the pod table is not matched, | 13:41 |
| joehuang | we can search again whether the region_name can be matched | 13:41 |
| joehuang | this will bring flexibility to network/router az_hint input | 13:41 |
| joehuang | how do you think about this idea? | 13:41 |
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| zhiyuan | how about users specify az in the az_hint when creating external network? | 13:44 |
| joehuang | first match AZ(it's still one parameter in pod table), if not find try to match pod_name | 13:45 |
| zhiyuan | but we need pod for external network | 13:46 |
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| zhiyuan | az may contain more than one pod | 13:46 |
| joehuang | if more than one, should we check to see if there is external network in that pod? | 13:46 |
| hejiawei | zhiyuan's idea sounds easier | 13:46 |
| zhiyuan | but at the beginning no external networks in pods | 13:47 |
| joehuang | may be two search function | 13:47 |
| joehuang | one find_by_region used for external network creation | 13:47 |
| joehuang | the other one find_by_az | 13:47 |
| joehuang | in find_by_az, first match with az_name, then try pod_name | 13:48 |
| hejiawei | I don't understand these code about external network,so I should read them,I can just try your ider after I understand them | 13:48 |
| hejiawei | to joe | 13:48 |
| zhiyuan | ok, so for external network creation, users still need to specify pod_name, or say region_name | 13:49 |
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| joehuang | in fact, it's for router/network, the az_hint will be more flexible, you can specify az_name or region_name | 13:50 |
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| joehuang | for the enduser, specify region will be more intuitive when creating network | 13:51 |
| zhiyuan | Another approach is to add "ready_for_external" network attribute to pod, then if az_name is specified when creating external network, we can filter pods by that attribute | 13:52 |
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| zhiyuan | sorry, shoule be "ready_for_external_network" attribute | 13:52 |
| joehuang | yes, this way can keep the sematics of az_hint | 13:52 |
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| zhiyuan | and users can also use region_name if they like | 13:53 |
| zhiyuan | so we don't have special handle for external network | 13:53 |
| joehuang | good proposal | 13:53 |
| joehuang | the parameter is too long, a shorter one will be better | 13:54 |
| joehuang | :-) | 13:54 |
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| zhiyuan | sure | 13:55 |
| joehuang | ok, let's have a discussion about L2 network tomorrow | 13:56 |
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| joehuang | any other topic | 13:56 |
| zhiyuan | maybe a BP? the change is not hard, but many things like code, readme, api document need to be changed | 13:56 |
| joehuang | yes | 13:56 |
| joehuang | but this update will make the usage more friendly | 13:57 |
| RongHui11 | no for me | 13:57 |
| zhiyuan | no other topic | 13:57 |
| Yipei_ | no | 13:57 |
| dongfeng | no for me | 13:57 |
| hejiawei | no for me | 13:57 |
| yinxiulin | no | 13:58 |
| joehuang | ok, thank you | 13:58 |
| joehuang | #endmeeting | 13:58 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 13:58:22 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:58 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-12-14-13.00.html | 13:58 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-12-14-13.00.txt | 13:58 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-12-14-13.00.log.html | 13:58 |
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| cardeois | #startmeeting javascript | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 15:00:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is cardeois. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: javascript)" | 15:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'javascript' | 15:00 |
| cardeois | Hello, anyone there ? | 15:00 |
| pboutin | I am | 15:00 |
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| cardeois | Agenda of the day https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/javascript-meeting-2016-12-14 | 15:01 |
| cardeois | vkramskikh msmol maybe? | 15:01 |
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| cardeois | Ok well seems like vkramskikh is not here | 15:04 |
| msmol | hello | 15:04 |
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| cardeois | Anyway I'll start anyway | 15:04 |
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| cardeois | #topic "yujunz to create doc about including js-openstack-lib into existing project | 15:04 |
| cardeois | MVP followup" | 15:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to ""yujunz to create doc about including js-openstack-lib into existing project (Meeting topic: javascript)" | 15:04 | |
| cardeois | Since last meeting we didn't see any progress on that | 15:05 |
| cardeois | and yujunz is not connected | 15:05 |
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| cardeois | let's go the next (hum and last topic) | 15:05 |
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| larainema | Hello cardeois | 15:05 |
| cardeois | #topic MVP followup | 15:05 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "MVP followup (Meeting topic: javascript)" | 15:05 | |
| cardeois | hey ! | 15:05 |
| cardeois | So about MVP, nova reviews are ready to be merged. | 15:06 |
| cardeois | I finished this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/370389/ and larainema did https://review.openstack.org/#/c/406612/ | 15:07 |
| cardeois | I guess we're waiting for workflow +1 on both | 15:07 |
| cardeois | I can merge them but would like vkramskikh to do it ideally | 15:07 |
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| cardeois | Once this is merged, we have all our needed components implemented in js-openstack-lib. We next have to implement nova boot and we have a MVP | 15:08 |
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| cardeois | Anyone wants to volunteer? | 15:09 |
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| larainema | What is nova boot? | 15:10 |
| cardeois | Well not sure about the name, but it's to create an VM through Nova | 15:10 |
| cardeois | an instance sorry | 15:10 |
| cardeois | http://developer.openstack.org/api-ref/compute/?expanded=create-server-detail | 15:11 |
| larainema | Ah, I see | 15:11 |
| cardeois | Alright, so I'll create an action for everyone instead | 15:11 |
| cardeois | #action "everyone" Implement create server in Nova | 15:12 |
| cardeois | I don't have any topic left does anyone has some? | 15:12 |
| cardeois | (or we switch to open discussion) | 15:12 |
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| cardeois | #topic Open discussion | 15:13 |
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| cardeois | Well vkramskikh is not there, but I have to tell you guys I will be less active in js-openstack-lib | 15:14 |
| cardeois | I gave my 2 weeks notice to Internap and my last day will be Friday. | 15:14 |
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| cardeois | Unfortunately my new job won't be related to OpenStack. | 15:14 |
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| pboutin | maybe in the near future me and msmol will try to catch up on this project | 15:15 |
| larainema | :(, so if this project will continue? | 15:15 |
| cardeois | So that means only vkramskikh will be an active core reviewer. So I have to topics: | 15:16 |
| cardeois | - Do you think guys this project is still worth it and is there people to contribute? | 15:16 |
| cardeois | - If we want to continue, should we elect a new core reviewer? | 15:16 |
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| cardeois | I guess larainema you are the only other active developer (present in meetings), so you could be a good candidate for core | 15:16 |
| pboutin | as someone that is not too familiar with OpenStack core behaviours, it's kinda hard to grasp on this project | 15:16 |
| msmol | I think we should ask vkramskikh what his intentions are moving forward as well before making any decisions | 15:17 |
| cardeois | Alright let's do that | 15:17 |
| cardeois | #action "cardeois" "Ask vkramskikh his opinion about the future of this project" | 15:18 |
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| cardeois | pboutin Yes I understand, but the project is small right now, that's a good occastion to catch up :) | 15:18 |
| larainema | I would like to move this project forward, but it's also need more person to participate | 15:19 |
| cardeois | Yes I agree, I will try to send an email to the dev mailing list today | 15:19 |
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| cardeois | Alright anything else? | 15:21 |
| cardeois | Oh maybe one thing, do we want to continue this meeting every two weeks or should we do it informally on #openstack-javascript ? | 15:22 |
| pboutin | maybe a next meeting should be planned in order to see which direction the projet will take | 15:23 |
| cardeois | Ok | 15:23 |
| cardeois | Alright that's it for me, I'm closing the meeting. | 15:23 |
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| larainema | Okay, thanks cardeois | 15:24 |
| cardeois | Good luck for the future of this project, I would really like it not to die, but can't see going forward right now unfortunatelly, we need more contributors | 15:24 |
| cardeois | Bye ! | 15:24 |
| cardeois | #endmeeting | 15:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:24 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 15:24:43 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:24 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/javascript/2016/javascript.2016-12-14-15.00.html | 15:24 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/javascript/2016/javascript.2016-12-14-15.00.txt | 15:24 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/javascript/2016/javascript.2016-12-14-15.00.log.html | 15:24 |
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| smcginnis | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 16:00:41 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| erlon | Hey | 16:00 |
| xyang1 | hi | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | Hello. | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Hi | 16:00 |
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| smcginnis | dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind jbernard _alastor_ bluex patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino yuriy_n17 karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor baumann rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell stevemar watanabe.isao,tommylikehu mdovgal ildikov wxy | 16:01 |
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| smcginnis | viks ketonne | 16:01 |
| dulek | o/ | 16:01 |
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| ketonne | Hi | 16:01 |
| geguileo | Hi! o/ | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | #topic Announcements | 16:01 |
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| mtanino | hi/ | 16:01 |
| hemna | morning | 16:01 |
| eharney | hi | 16:01 |
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| jungleboyj | It's a hemna! | 16:01 |
| patrickeast | o/ | 16:01 |
| e0ne | hi | 16:01 |
| hemna | it is | 16:02 |
| scottda | hi | 16:02 |
| wxy1 | o/ | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | A hemna sighting in the wild! :) | 16:02 |
| mdovgal | hi | 16:02 |
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| jungleboyj | I love a wild hemna | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | #topic Announcements | 16:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:02 | |
| smcginnis | Moving on quickly from that... | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking Review focus | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | I'm cutting O-2 later today. | 16:02 |
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| smcginnis | #link https://releases.openstack.org/ocata/schedule.html Schedule | 16:03 |
| erlon | smcginnis: what will be limmited drivers only? | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | This is our official driver and spec freeze. | 16:03 |
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| markstur | hi | 16:03 |
| hemna | so the cutoff isn't friday ? | 16:03 |
| xyang1 | smcginnis: anything you want to get in before the cut? | 16:03 |
| erlon | smcginnis: ok, driver and spec | 16:04 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Hello :) | 16:04 |
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| smcginnis | hemna: Nope, Thursday is the official OS one, the 14th was what we had published for Cinder. | 16:04 |
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| hemna | ok, so I guess that begs the question about the XIV driver then | 16:04 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: Yeah. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | xyang1: There are a couple outstanding driver submissions (that all appear to want to be on the meeting agenda today) so we'll have to take a look at whether they're ready or not. | 16:04 |
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| smcginnis | hemna: That's a refactor IMO, so not a new driver. | 16:05 |
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| hemna | we haven't really been getting any reviews on it from others | 16:05 |
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| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Ok, so what is the cutoff date you are looking at for that? | 16:05 |
| hemna | we still need more unit tests, but the rest of the driver code can get some attention | 16:05 |
| xyang1 | hemna: I wanted to review it the other day but it had WIP on | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: I guess that would fall under the O-3 one. | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | xyang1: Oh right, same. | 16:06 |
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| smcginnis | hemna: Is that still WIP? | 16:06 |
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| hemna | xyang1, we have unit tests coming from alon | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | OK, good. | 16:06 |
| hemna | so if you can ignore that for now, there still is a lot of other code to review | 16:06 |
| xyang1 | hemna: ok | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | Otherwise, there's still a lot of items on the list that we had identified as priorities that need attention, other than drivers. | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | Especially geguileo's long list of patches. :) | 16:07 |
| scottda | smcginnis: Should we do sign-ups for the HA patches, the way we do for drivers? | 16:07 |
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| smcginnis | scottda: That may help. | 16:07 |
| erlon | scottda: +1 | 16:07 |
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| smcginnis | dulek has been doing a lot of testing on those I've seen. Would be good to get others as well. | 16:08 |
| xyang1 | smcginnis: the HA patches merge deadline is O-3, right? | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | xyang1: Right | 16:08 |
| xyang1 | smcginnis, scottda: the sign-ups do help with drivers | 16:08 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Cinder testing meeting | 16:08 |
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| smcginnis | scottda: hey | 16:09 |
| ketonne | smcginnis, xyang1: we would like to discuss Veritas HyperScale status as well | 16:09 |
| scottda | Hey. So we used to have a Cinder testing meeting before this meeting, at 1500 UTC.... | 16:09 |
| scottda | But since we came of Daylight Savings, I've had a conflict. So has smcginnis and others seem to not be around... | 16:09 |
| xyang1 | ketonne: do you have successful CI reporting? | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | ketonne: Yeah, please don't put items in the announcements section. We do that topic later in the meeting. | 16:10 |
| scottda | So I was wondering if we should re-schedule that meeting? This is assuming we still want to talk about Cinder testing on a regular basis? | 16:10 |
| ketonne | xyang1: CI is stable and reporting although we do have some failures which we are addressing | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | scottda: I do think it's good to discuss. | 16:10 |
| ketonne | smcginnis: ok | 16:10 |
| patrickeast | scottda: +1 for a new time | 16:10 |
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| e0ne | scottda: +1 to re-schedule it | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | ketonne: noop tests are not stable. | 16:11 |
| erlon | after this meeting is a good time for me | 16:11 |
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| e0ne | scottda: what about 1600 UTC on Tuesdays? | 16:11 |
| scottda | Who is interested and in a UTC 0000 or UTC + X time zone? We want you to be able to come... | 16:11 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | scottda: +1 | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: That should work for me. | 16:11 |
| scottda | e0ne: That works for me. | 16:11 |
| e0ne | erlon: -1. it will be too late for me, especially in summer | 16:12 |
| erlon | e0ne: that would work for me, same time as Cinder meeting but Tuesday right? | 16:12 |
| erlon | e0ne: hmm | 16:12 |
| e0ne | erlon: yes | 16:12 |
| ketonne | smcginnis: We just verified today that CI is triggering for every checkin. This has happened a few hours ago. | 16:12 |
| erlon | e0ne: that works for me | 16:12 |
| scottda | Anyone have a Big problem with 1600 UTC Tuesdays? | 16:13 |
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| scottda | eharney, xyang1, gouthamr, akerr, smcginnis, cFouts, e0ne, geguileo, dulek, flip214, ntpttr patrickeast, _alastor_, DuncanT, erlon, josemello,mdarnell, karthikp | 16:13 |
| scottda | YOu are all on the ping list for the meeting | 16:13 |
| smcginnis | scottda: +1 from me | 16:13 |
| eharney | i like 1600 UTC tues | 16:13 |
| e0ne | it works for me | 16:13 |
| Cibo | smcginnis: can you please specify the time of brunch creation? | 16:13 |
| scottda | Speak now, or we'll just do this... | 16:13 |
| xyang1 | scottda: 1600UTC works for me | 16:13 |
| patrickeast | Sounds good to me | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | Cibo: Not really | 16:14 |
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| dulek | +1 | 16:14 |
| xyang1 | scottda: 0000 UTC is late for me | 16:14 |
| geguileo | scottda: I'm ok with it | 16:14 |
| erlon | scottda: sounds like a deal | 16:14 |
| scottda | OK, I'll change it on the meeting wiki and ping you all next Tuesday. Thanks everyone. | 16:14 |
| e0ne | scottda: thanks | 16:14 |
| erlon | scottda: Thanks! | 16:14 |
| scottda | oh wait.. | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Thanks! | 16:15 |
| Cibo | smcginnis: I hope that I will be able to refactor code and publish + code review | 16:15 |
| scottda | Wasn't there something on the ML about not using Cinder room for meetings? | 16:15 |
| scottda | OR am I mistaken | 16:15 |
| scottda | I know they just added openstack-meeting-5 | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | scottda: I think the decision was it's actually good to use the cinder room. | 16:15 |
| erlon | Cibo: dont forget the to fix the logs.gz downloads | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | Or at least that's the way it was leaning. | 16:15 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | It's preferred that you use the meeting rooms, but it's not required. | 16:15 |
| scottda | smcginnis: OK, we'll keep it there. Thanks. Back to you... | 16:15 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Thanks! | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | #info Test meeting to be held in #openstack-cinder 1600 UTC on Tuesdays | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | #topic New driver submissions | 16:16 |
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| smcginnis | I'm going to group these. | 16:16 |
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| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389622/ NEC driver | 16:17 |
| Cibo | erlon: what logs.gz I do not archive any more http://openstack-ci-logs-open-e.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/log/86/386186/28 | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | #link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/cinder/+spec/veritas-hyperscale-cinder-driver Veritas HyperScale driver | 16:17 |
| Cibo | erlon: or I am missing something? | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | So from what I see, neither one of these is actually ready. :| | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=cinder&time=7+days | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | I would not consider either to have stable CI's at this point. | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | There are still issues being found in reviews. | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | And a lot of this should have been worked on weeks ago, to be honest. | 16:18 |
| smcginnis | On the plus side, it does seem both are being active and attentive to concerns. | 16:19 |
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| smcginnis | So I'm not going to -2 them right now, but from where I stand it doesn't look good. | 16:19 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: how many hours do we have until deadline? | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | Others are certainly encouraged to review and decide. | 16:19 |
| ketonne | smcginnis: We are working on these actively for the Veritas HyperScale issues reported. The last one by xyang1 was addressed just before this meeting | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: I was hoping to submit the o-2 request after lunch. | 16:19 |
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| smcginnis | But I can wait until later. | 16:20 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: what timezone are you in? | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | Central US | 16:20 |
| e0ne | thanks | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | Currently 10:20 AM | 16:20 |
| Cibo | smcginnis: thank you | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | My biggest concern for both right now is the CI. | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | They are being stated as being stable, but that's not what I'm seeing. | 16:21 |
| smcginnis | I'm sure DuncanT would have an opinion on that too. :) | 16:21 |
| sivn | any thoughts on the Veritas Access driver? | 16:22 |
| sivn | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/409914/ | 16:22 |
| Cibo | smcginnis: there is 1 day and 4 - 5 hours left... | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | sivn: Again, no CI. Driver submitted just days before the deadline. | 16:22 |
| smcginnis | Cibo: No, there is more like 4-5 hours left. | 16:22 |
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| Cibo | smcginnis: I see | 16:23 |
| ketonne | stable CI reporting for Veritas HyperScale should be seen in a few hours. We fixed the last known issues last night India time | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | I'll step back and let others comment. This isn't just my decision, just stating what I see based on what we've published as our requirements and our deadlines. | 16:23 |
| hemna | so the original patch was submitted on Nov 27 | 16:24 |
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| smcginnis | hemna: Which one? | 16:24 |
| hemna | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/382097 | 16:24 |
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| smcginnis | That's the HyperScale one. The Access one is different. | 16:25 |
| hemna | I haven't looked at it at all because it hasn't had CI | 16:25 |
| xyang1 | hemna: Oct 4 was the first submission | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: So, that is ok ... | 16:25 |
| hemna | ok sorry, wasn't sure which one we were talking about | 16:25 |
| hemna | oh | 16:25 |
| hemna | Veritas access was just submitted | 16:25 |
| hemna | :( | 16:25 |
| jungleboyj | Looks like they have been responsive to reviews. | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | True. That is good. | 16:26 |
| hemna | I'd say no on the Access driver | 16:26 |
| hemna | the deadline is for merging the driver not submitting afaik. | 16:26 |
| sivn | To give some context on Access driver, this was checked-in to kilo release but was removed due to lack of CI, we are resubmitting it | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | hemna: +1 | 16:26 |
| xyang1 | hemna: oh, I see what you meant. the access one was too late | 16:26 |
| hemna | yah | 16:26 |
| hemna | the unit tests are lacking as well | 16:27 |
| hemna | well I guess the driver is a bit light, because it's mostly an nfs driver | 16:28 |
| sivn | I have uploaded one set of test cases? | 16:28 |
| erlon | sivn: does your driver do any call to the storage? | 16:28 |
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| hemna | anyway, I think it's submitted too late IMHO | 16:28 |
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| xyang1 | hemna: I think we should discuss about the drivers on the review track etherpad first | 16:28 |
| erlon | sivn: it seems only a layer over the NFS driver and that does not do anything optimized | 16:29 |
| sivn | for snapshot of the volume, it runs a specific command over NFS | 16:29 |
| e0ne | hemna: +2 | 16:29 |
| sivn | otherwise uses most of the NFS driver capabilities | 16:29 |
| erlon | sivn: ok, ill let a comment there and yu can follow up | 16:29 |
| sivn | thanks | 16:29 |
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| sivn | we are working on CI too, that is in the last stages | 16:30 |
| hemna | the clone volume doesn't use a new size either. | 16:30 |
| sivn | we have got experience now, with the Veritas Hyperscale CI :) | 16:30 |
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| smcginnis | OK, please all cores, take a look and chime in on the driver reviews in the tracking etherpad. | 16:32 |
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| xyang1 | smcginnis: so we have two new drivers that might make the cut? NEC and Veritas HyperScale? | 16:32 |
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| smcginnis | xyang1: That's my take, but a little iffy. | 16:33 |
| ketonne | Getting back to HyperScale, last comment has been addressed and new test cases have been added as per xyang1's comments | 16:33 |
| xyang1 | smcginnis: ok | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | I will take a look at both soon. I do think they are close and they have been responsive to review feedback. | 16:33 |
| smcginnis | CI is really the biggest issue all around here. | 16:34 |
| xyang1 | smcginnis: I haven't seen CI yet, so that is the concern | 16:34 |
| hemna | yah CI is supposed to be reporting if you want a driver to merge | 16:34 |
| hemna | and passing :) | 16:34 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | 4+ hours isn't much time for CI. | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | CI's in general are pretty miserable as it is: http://ci-watch.tintri.com/project?project=cinder&time=7+days | 16:34 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | hemna: haha yeah passing too. | 16:34 |
| erlon | diablo_rojo_phon: yeap, it talks aroung 1+ hour just to run a job and detect a failure | 16:35 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | Ouch. | 16:35 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Open Discussion | 16:36 |
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| ketonne | we are on the CI issues. you should see stable CI from HyperScale by today. Failures are being looked into on priority | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | Anything else to discuss? | 16:36 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: when are we going to start working on topics list for PTG? | 16:36 |
| Cibo | JovianDSS driver | 16:36 |
| hemna | eharney, thanks for the review man. much appreciated. | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | ketonne: That's good. But again, we should see stable CI _prior_ to the deadline, not on the deadline. | 16:37 |
| hemna | e0ne, after xmas ? | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Oh, good point. We should probably get an etherpad started for planning that. | 16:37 |
| Cibo | so I am working on fixing existing issues... anything else? | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | Which reminds me - Summit session proposals will be opening up very soon. | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | Good time to start thinking about what you might want to submit for talks at the summit. | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | That will be coming up fast. | 16:38 |
| e0ne | hemna: I'll have Orthodox Christmas after it:) | 16:38 |
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| smcginnis | diablo_rojo_phon: How we on Cinder registration for the PTG? | 16:38 |
| hemna | :) | 16:38 |
| e0ne | I didn't register yet. I'm going to do it next 2 weeks | 16:39 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Great! | 16:39 |
| hemna | I'm still trying to get approval.... | 16:39 |
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| jungleboyj | I am registered. May be sending myself, but I will be there. | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | #link http://www.openstack.org/ptg PTG registration | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | :/ | 16:40 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | smcginnis: still on the lower end. | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | There is the travel assistance program for this as well. | 16:41 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | e0ne: I didn't see you apply for the tsp | 16:41 |
| e0ne | diablo_rojo_phon: I've got approval from my company this time :) | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | OK, I guess that's all I've got. Anything else? | 16:41 |
| e0ne | diablo_rojo_phon: so I don't need TSP | 16:41 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Woo-hoo! | 16:42 |
| smcginnis | OK, thanks everyone. Go forth and review. :) | 16:42 |
| ketonne | smcginnis: should we shoot for o-3 for HyperScale then? | 16:42 |
| smcginnis | ketonne: What do you mean? | 16:42 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | smcginnis: we shall, our beloved ptl. | 16:43 |
| ketonne | do we have the window to get into ocata in O-3 for hyperscale? | 16:43 |
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| hemna | ketonne, the deadline for new drivers is O-2 | 16:43 |
| e0ne | ketonne: I'm afraid, that you have to do it for P-2 :( | 16:43 |
| hemna | you've missed the deadline. | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | ketonne: No, the new driver deadline for Ocata is today. Otherwise you're looking at Pike. | 16:44 |
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| smcginnis | OK, thanks everyone. | 16:44 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 16:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 16:45:01 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-12-14-16.00.html | 16:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-12-14-16.00.txt | 16:45 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-12-14-16.00.log.html | 16:45 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: Thanks! | 16:45 |
| e0ne | thanks! see you next week | 16:45 |
| geguileo | thanks | 16:45 |
| ketonne | smcginnis: Thanks | 16:45 |
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| stakeda_ | smcginnis: thank you | 16:46 |
| Cibo | thank you | 16:47 |
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| wxy1 | Hello, folks. A few days before, We received a product requirement about fuzzy search in Cinder. Users want to query resources with it. But AFAIK, there is no project support this feature. And there is a project called "SearchLight" can do this job. So I'd like to know that what do you guys think about this? | 16:55 |
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| smcginnis | wxy1: Hey, can you ask over in #openstack-cinder? | 16:56 |
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| wxy1 | smcginnis: yes, wrong place. | 16:56 |
| smcginnis | ;) | 16:57 |
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| bh526r_ | #startmeeting gluon | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 18:00:46 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bh526r_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'gluon' | 18:00 |
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| bh526r_ | hello everyone | 18:00 |
| georgk | #info Georg Kunz | 18:01 |
| bh526r_ | #topic Roll Call | 18:01 |
| jinli | Hi all | 18:01 |
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| georgk | Hi | 18:01 |
| bh526r_ | #info Bin Hu | 18:01 |
| bh526r_ | Hi Georg | 18:01 |
| jinli | #info JinLi | 18:01 |
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| krenczewski | #info Kamil Renczewski | 18:01 |
| bh526r_ | Hi Kamil | 18:01 |
| krenczewski | Hello | 18:02 |
| bh526r_ | #topic Admin Update | 18:02 |
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| bh526r_ | #info not so much update | 18:02 |
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| bh526r_ | #info Release team has announced a method for projects to set create stable/ocata branch | 18:02 |
| bh526r_ | #info we need to follow the steps to create stable/ocata branch later on, when our development is more complete and more stable | 18:03 |
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| bh526r_ | #info And to tag the release, of course | 18:04 |
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| bh526r_ | #info we can worry about it in new year | 18:04 |
| bh526r_ | #topic Gluon Tasks | 18:05 |
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| bh526r_ | #info Task list for informational purpose | 18:05 |
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| bh526r_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Gluon/Tasks-Ocata | 18:05 |
| bh526r_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-gluon-work-plan | 18:05 |
| bh526r_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-neutron-session | 18:06 |
| bh526r_ | #topic Status Update and Patch Review | 18:06 |
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| bh526r_ | #info (1) Authentication and Access Control | 18:06 |
| bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398577/ | 18:07 |
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| bh526r_ | #info Ian provided comments, and Kamal uploaded a new patchset 4 | 18:07 |
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| bh526r_ | I think it is quite stable, I suggest we move on and merge it. | 18:08 |
| bh526r_ | Any other comments or suggestions? | 18:08 |
| bh526r_ | If no objection, it is approved | 18:09 |
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| bh526r_ | #info This patch is approved, and will be merged | 18:10 |
| bh526r_ | #info (2) OpenContrail's Mechanism Driver | 18:11 |
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| bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402071/ | 18:11 |
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| alraddarla_ | #info Darla Ahlert | 18:12 |
| alraddarla_ | sorry i am late | 18:12 |
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| bh526r_ | #info Kamil submitted new patchset with README.md | 18:12 |
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| bh526r_ | #info Bin is still verifying if it works with Gluon | 18:13 |
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| bh526r_ | #info And comments regarding if using extended plugin method is a better way than mechanism driver | 18:14 |
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| bh526r_ | #info And comments regarding tempoary home v.s. permanent home | 18:14 |
| bh526r_ | #info It seems that more time is needed to finish the review | 18:15 |
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| bh526r_ | #info (3) Testing | 18:15 |
| bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388821/ | 18:15 |
| bh526r_ | Jin, have you addressed Paul's comments? | 18:16 |
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| jinli | will reply to him today | 18:17 |
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| bh526r_ | e.g. Line 36: raise -> is raised | 18:17 |
| jinli | Oh, for that one, I already made changes for him | 18:18 |
| jinli | I updated new patches | 18:18 |
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| bh526r_ | I just checked new patchset 4, it doesn't seem changed | 18:19 |
| bh526r_ | And line 43, 47 and 52 | 18:19 |
| bh526r_ | Those are not changed in patchset 4 | 18:19 |
| jinli | I am checking | 18:20 |
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| bh526r_ | #info Jin will double check and make sure the comments on Line 36, 43, 47, 52 etc., by Paul will be addressed | 18:21 |
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| bh526r_ | #info Once those are addressed, we can approve it. | 18:22 |
| bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393935/ | 18:22 |
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| bh526r_ | #info it sits there for a while, Jin submitted patchset 14 that addressed PEP8 issue | 18:23 |
| bh526r_ | If no more comments or objection, I suggest to approve it | 18:25 |
| bh526r_ | Jin, I have one question: | 18:26 |
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| jinli | ys | 18:26 |
| jinli | yes | 18:27 |
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| bh526r_ | You added an "import" in gluon/api/baseObject.py in your patchset 14 submitted on Nov 30 | 18:27 |
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| bh526r_ | Tom had a patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399051/, which was merged on Dec 6 | 18:28 |
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| bh526r_ | In his patch, gluon/api/baseObject.py was also modified quite a lot | 18:29 |
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| bh526r_ | Because the patch 399051 was merged on Dec 6, it means your patch on Nov 30 is NOT based on most recent code base of gluon/api/baseObject.py. | 18:30 |
| bh526r_ | Right? | 18:30 |
| jinli | let me do a recheck and make sure the test case are still ok | 18:31 |
| jinli | thanks Bin | 18:31 |
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| bh526r_ | Sounds good, please do a recheck, and also make sure your patch is based on most recent code base, e.g. gluon/api/baseObject.py | 18:31 |
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| jinli | srue | 18:33 |
| jinli | sure | 18:33 |
| bh526r_ | #info Jin will recheck test his patch and make sure (1) test case is still ok based on most recent code base (2) changes on gluon/api/baseObject.py is on most recent code base | 18:33 |
| bh526r_ | #info (4) ODL Shim Layer | 18:34 |
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| bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407388/ | 18:34 |
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| bh526r_ | #info Kamal gave some comments, and +2 | 18:35 |
| bh526r_ | #info It seems that in new ODL release, the API has slightly changed, so the adaptor also needs to be re-worked | 18:36 |
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| bh526r_ | #info Also Kamal commented that it needs to use configure file instead of hardcoded | 18:37 |
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| bh526r_ | #info e.g. in shim.conf, add a [Open Daylight] section for those configuration needed for ODL | 18:38 |
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| bh526r_ | #info So this patch needs update to address (1) new adaptor for ODL APIs that are changed (2) configruation file support (3) and other comments in review | 18:39 |
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| bh526r_ | any other comments? | 18:40 |
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| bh526r_ | #info Georg takes the action to address those issues and upload new patchset :) | 18:41 |
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| bh526r_ | #info (5) Developer Documentation | 18:41 |
| bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/395031/ | 18:41 |
| bh526r_ | #info Looks like it was approved and merged yesterday | 18:42 |
| bh526r_ | #info congratulations, team. We had one merged :) | 18:42 |
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| bh526r_ | #info (6) Bug Fixes | 18:43 |
| bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410837/ | 18:43 |
| bh526r_ | #info this is a new patch Darla submitted this morning | 18:43 |
| bh526r_ | #info Tin and Bin reviewed it, and gave a couple of suggestions | 18:44 |
| alraddarla_ | #info Darla will be updating that with the comments later today. Wanted to see if anyone else had any other comments first | 18:44 |
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| bh526r_ | any other comments from everyone? | 18:44 |
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| bh526r_ | Thank you Darla | 18:46 |
| bh526r_ | #info (7) Nova Enhancement | 18:46 |
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| bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390513/ | 18:47 |
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| bh526r_ | #info Ian is working with Nova team on this patch | 18:47 |
| bh526r_ | #info There are some comments and discussions | 18:47 |
| bh526r_ | #info so work in progress | 18:48 |
| bh526r_ | #topic Next Steps | 18:48 |
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| bh526r_ | #info There are several actions through the review above, for Jin, Georg, and Darla to take | 18:49 |
| bh526r_ | #info Hopefully we will have new patchset, and ready to approve and merge | 18:49 |
| bh526r_ | #topic AOB | 18:50 |
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| krenczewski | I have a question regarding OpenContrail’s Mechanism Driver | 18:50 |
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| bh526r_ | Do you have holiday plan? I am thinking of whether we keep or cancel the meeting on Dec 21 and Dec 28. | 18:50 |
| bh526r_ | Ok, sure | 18:50 |
| krenczewski | Bin, in summary of yesterday's meeting you wrote about discussion between me, Nachi, Ian and Tom | 18:51 |
| bh526r_ | Yes | 18:51 |
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| krenczewski | Do you know if someone initiated something? | 18:51 |
| bh526r_ | Let me initiate this email thread today so that we can keep the ball rolling | 18:51 |
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| krenczewski | OK, thanks | 18:51 |
| bh526r_ | Sure. | 18:52 |
| bh526r_ | What is everyone's opinion about the meeting on Dec 21 and Dec 28? | 18:53 |
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| krenczewski | Dec 21 is Ok, but 28 is problematic :-) | 18:53 |
| bh526r_ | I see. | 18:54 |
| bh526r_ | So let's keep next week's meeting on Dec 21, and cancel the one on Dec 28 | 18:54 |
| bh526r_ | Does it work for everyone? | 18:54 |
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| krenczewski | +1 | 18:54 |
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| bh526r_ | Great. | 18:55 |
| alraddarla_ | Works for me | 18:55 |
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| bh526r_ | #info Group agreed to keep the meeting next week (Dec 21), but cancel the meeting on Dec 28 to enjoy holidays | 18:55 |
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| bh526r_ | Hay Ian is here | 18:56 |
| bh526r_ | That's all from me for today | 18:56 |
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| bh526r_ | If nothing else, let's adjourn the meeting | 18:57 |
| bh526r_ | #info meeting adjourned | 18:57 |
| bh526r_ | Thank you everyone | 18:57 |
| bh526r_ | #endmeeting | 18:57 |
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| krenczewski | thanks, Bye | 18:57 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 18:57:42 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:57 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2016/gluon.2016-12-14-18.00.html | 18:57 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2016/gluon.2016-12-14-18.00.txt | 18:57 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2016/gluon.2016-12-14-18.00.log.html | 18:57 |
| bh526r_ | Bye all | 18:57 |
| alraddarla_ | bye | 18:58 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | StoryBoard meeting time! | 19:00 |
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| SotK | hi! | 19:00 |
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| SotK | #startmeeting storyboard | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 19:00:58 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SotK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 19:01 |
| SotK | I tried to update the agenda but the wiki login page wasn't loading for me :( | 19:01 |
| SotK | so here is the incorrect agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 19:01 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | \o/ | 19:01 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | thanks for the incorrect agenda | 19:02 |
| SotK | do we have any announcements that I haven't thought of? | 19:02 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I don't think so, we should give people advance warning of when meetings will be off over xmas | 19:02 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | but I don't think we've actually decided when that'll be yet | 19:02 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | well I mean we don't decide when xmas itself is | 19:02 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | OR DO WE | 19:02 |
| SotK | something for the discussion section! | 19:02 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | but yeah | 19:02 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | haha | 19:03 |
| SotK | yes that is definitely us | 19:03 |
| SotK | storyboard is secretly the christmas arranging committee | 19:03 |
| SotK | I also don't think there are any urgent items | 19:03 |
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| SotK | #topic In Progress Work | 19:03 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | I said I'd send a patch to add the blog to planet on Monday. I did it today. | 19:04 |
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| SotK | I said I'd set up a place for the blog to live early this week, and I did it! | 19:04 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/410909 | 19:04 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | yeah yeah you win. | 19:05 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | planet links to that home | 19:05 |
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| SotK | now we just need to bikeshed a domain name that doesn't have my name in it | 19:05 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | it beats 'zarathecat' | 19:05 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | I'm glad it's on a server we have control over now, anyway | 19:06 |
| SotK | only whilst abbreviated to SotK :) | 19:06 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | :) as for other items... we've merged the first 'link to a search' patch | 19:06 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | for stories | 19:06 |
| SotK | woo | 19:06 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | :) thanks for that! | 19:06 |
| SotK | and you found the task one to not work as expected I think | 19:07 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | yeah | 19:07 |
| SotK | so I will take a look at that | 19:07 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | great | 19:07 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | (yeah, if I give a filter, I get an empty array when there should be items matching the filter) | 19:07 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | that's using the syntax suggested in the file | 19:07 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | so maybe I'm just doing the wrong thing, in which case, yay, docs :) | 19:07 |
| SotK | I don't think you are doing the wrong thing | 19:08 |
| SotK | at least, you are doing the thing I think should be the right thing | 19:08 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | haha | 19:08 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I *just* noticed https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404979/ has sufficient reviews, so merged it about 3 mins before this meeting | 19:09 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | er, #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404979/ | 19:09 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | so I'm hoping that that will make our tests behave more nicely; thanks, jeblair! | 19:09 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | (I meant to take another look at the test openid server to work out if I was doing something strange but haven't had time; have left a note in gerrit about it) | 19:10 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | and am going to look at #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407904/ this evening | 19:10 |
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| * zara_the_lemur__ tries to be careful with email things after the time she accidentally sent herself 20000 emails from storyboard | 19:10 | |
| SotK | hahaha | 19:11 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | so I've been waiting 'til I had a good chunk of time to look at anything affecting notifications :) | 19:11 |
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| SotK | anything else ongoing? | 19:12 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | the other thing I will maybe get to tonight is reviewing your fix to the permissions logic for private stories | 19:12 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/408297/ | 19:13 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | (this isn't anything people should be worried about; the issue is that the rules are too *strict* when creating new stories) | 19:13 |
| SotK | that would be nice to land, since I think it is the last blocker for merging the UI patch to allow that too | 19:14 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | yep | 19:14 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | oh, #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/400381/ can be merged | 19:16 |
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| * SotK will also try to reduce the review backlog in the coming days | 19:17 | |
| SotK | oh, nice | 19:17 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | thanks, yeah, I'm currently doing 'review the oldest thing' which means that things generally don't get forgotten, but it also means features take longer to get in because I'm not grouping related reviews. | 19:18 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | I think we're okay to move on to open discussion | 19:20 |
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| SotK | I agree | 19:21 |
| SotK | #topic Open DIscussion | 19:21 |
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| SotK | #topic Open Discussion | 19:21 |
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| SotK | maybe I should've had an undo there too | 19:22 |
| SotK | #undo | 19:22 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic Open Discussion | 19:22 |
| SotK | #undo | 19:22 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic Open DIscussion | 19:22 |
| SotK | #topic Open Discussion | 19:22 |
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| SotK | I am a meetbot expert | 19:22 |
| SotK | so when is xmas? | 19:22 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | (aw, I was going to put an Open Dlscussion back in there just to annoy you) | 19:22 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | I get to decide when my xmas is so that's up to you really | 19:24 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | and anyone else who would normally be around here but might be busy one of the next few wednesdays | 19:25 |
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| SotK | I believe that all of my next few wednesdays are actually free from xmas | 19:25 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | I'll leave it up in the air then; as long as we give people sufficient notice to do something else then it's fine. | 19:26 |
| SotK | that seems sensible to me | 19:27 |
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| fungi | i'll be around, pretty sure | 19:27 |
| fungi | not that i often pipe up in these ;) | 19:27 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | :D maybe we can have a 'draw a xmas tree in badpaint' competition | 19:28 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | I suspect I'll be around but doing nothing useful, which is arguably my default. | 19:29 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I've had no time to dig into the deep and enduring mystery of #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404978/ | 19:30 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | and the lack of closure is making me sad | 19:30 |
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| * diablo_rojo sneaks in lae | 19:32 | |
| diablo_rojo | *late | 19:32 |
| fungi | oh, thanks for merging 395116. i'll get https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/story/2000776 wrapped up and submit the governance change to mark us off the list for that goal | 19:32 |
| * SotK contemplates attempting a recheck when it is morning UTC and zuul might be quieter than normal | 19:33 | |
| zara_the_lemur__ | fungi: np, thanks for reminding me earlier! :) | 19:33 |
| SotK | welcome diablo_rojo | 19:33 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | diablo_rojo: hi! :) we mentioned blog stuff near the start of the meeting, just to be annoying. tl;dr sent a patch to add it to planet | 19:34 |
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| diablo_rojo | Sorry I'm late. I dismissed the meeting reminder 10 min before it started and then got distracted. | 19:34 |
| diablo_rojo | zara_the_lemur__, cool. Sounds good. | 19:34 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | :D next time I'll ping with a countdown | 19:35 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410909/ | 19:35 |
| diablo_rojo | zara_the_lemur__, ha ha sounds good | 19:35 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | oh my it went in already | 19:35 |
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| fungi | #link https://review.openstack.org/410934 Infra completion of incubated oslo code removal | 19:39 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | \o/ | 19:39 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | oh, that should be python-storyboardclient instead of storyboard-webclient | 19:40 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | (well the webclient shouldn't contain any either, but it was the python-storyboardclient repo that was changed ) | 19:40 |
| fungi | d'oh, thanks | 19:40 |
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| fungi | fixing | 19:40 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | np, thanks! :) | 19:41 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | so, I was gonna say, blog stuff going well so far; the plan was for our second post to do 'mapping launchpad concepts to storyboard concepts' . I'm not really a launchpad expert when it comes to the details, and can say a lot more on the planned *third* post ('new storyboard things') | 19:43 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | so I'd prefer someone else who uses launchpad more to write the second, because they're going to know more about the day-to-day similarities and how they do the same tasks in both. | 19:44 |
| * SotK also doesn't have very much experience of the details of launchpad | 19:44 | |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | (we tend to go with 'get requirements from people who use it a lot; try not to spend too much time with it ourselves', because otherwise we'd just end up reimplementing launchpad.) | 19:46 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | that's my reasoning, anyway. | 19:47 |
| fungi | didn't ttx mention he was going to write at least one too? | 19:47 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | oh yeah, he wrote our very first post! | 19:47 |
| fungi | oh, got it | 19:47 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | that was rather important context that I forgot to mention, oops | 19:47 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | so we have 'why storyboard?' up there | 19:48 |
| fungi | diablo_rojo: you were going to write one as well? | 19:48 |
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| diablo_rojo | I definitely can, but I will probably need someone to look over it | 19:50 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I can definitely check over anything on the storyboard side | 19:51 |
| * SotK also | 19:51 | |
| diablo_rojo | I dont quite have the knowledge of storyboard, but maybeI could work with someone and we could co write something? | 19:51 |
| diablo_rojo | Team blog post writing! | 19:51 |
| diablo_rojo | I can set up a google doc and we can find a time to get together to write it :) | 19:52 |
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| diablo_rojo | fungi, maybe you could give it a once over before we post it? | 19:53 |
| fungi | you bet | 19:54 |
| fungi | just give me a heads up | 19:54 |
| diablo_rojo | fungi, Sweet :) | 19:54 |
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| diablo_rojo | zara_the_lemur__, what was the other topic we wanted to have a post about? | 19:55 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | so 'why storyboard?'(done, thanks, ttx!) 'mapping storyboard things to launchpad things' and 'things unique/new to storyboard' | 19:56 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | oh we have 2 mins left | 19:57 |
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| diablo_rojo | Anybody wanna volunteer for the last one? Or shall we wait | 19:58 |
| diablo_rojo | ? | 19:58 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | oh, that's the one I meant I could do or sotk or both. | 19:58 |
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| * SotK was halfway through typing the exact same thing | 19:59 | |
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| diablo_rojo | My bad :) | 19:59 |
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| fungi | very cool | 19:59 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | we're out of time! | 19:59 |
| fungi | thanks! | 20:00 |
| SotK | indeed, thanks folks :) | 20:00 |
| SotK | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 20:00:08 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-12-14-19.00.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-12-14-19.00.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-12-14-19.00.log.html | 20:00 |
| ekhugen | #startmeeting wos-mentoring | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 20:00:27 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekhugen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
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| ekhugen | Hi, who's here for the women of openstack mentoring? | 20:01 |
| CarolBarrett | Hi | 20:01 |
| MeganR | Hi | 20:01 |
| ekhugen | Hi Carol and Megan | 20:01 |
| CarolBarrett | Hi ekhugen | 20:01 |
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| ekhugen | #topic Matches update | 20:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Matches update (Meeting topic: wos-mentoring)" | 20:02 | |
| ekhugen | matches spreadsheet is here https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r2ZZNq7MBNJNKr0g_QlnQvhmkTSC8pf1x4DC-_NMfhA/edit#gid=0 | 20:02 |
| ekhugen | I've been updating on the far right as I heard from people | 20:02 |
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| ekhugen | I think I only have 6 people to kick off the list because of no responses | 20:03 |
| ekhugen | and one person responded that their job had changed and they didn't want mentoring anymore | 20:03 |
| MeganR | oh that is interesting | 20:04 |
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| diablo_rojo | Hello | 20:04 |
| ildikov | Hi | 20:05 |
| ekhugen | hi Kendall and Ildiko | 20:05 |
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| ekhugen | MeganR which part is interesting? | 20:05 |
| MeganR | Hi | 20:05 |
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| MeganR | That someone had a job change - I've heard that a couple of times | 20:06 |
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| MeganR | and no longer is interested in mentoring, hit return too soon | 20:06 |
| ekhugen | oh okay, yes, I thought it was nice of them to let us know | 20:07 |
| ekhugen | I think the remaining 6 I'll leave on the list and just cross them off, rather than actually deleting rows? | 20:07 |
| CarolBarrett | Makes sense | 20:07 |
| ekhugen | unless someone has a better suggestion of how to delete people? | 20:07 |
| ildikov | MeganR: it can also be the case that the assignment wasn't 100%, when the mentee signed up | 20:08 |
| MeganR | I like leaving them, just crossing off, so there can be reference if needed. | 20:08 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah I would keep the info and just cross them off | 20:08 |
| MeganR | ildikov: very true! | 20:08 |
| ildikov | MeganR: with the upstream training we have many people around who're interested, but then don't get the time allocation after :( | 20:08 |
| diablo_rojo | MeganR, +1 | 20:09 |
| ildikov | MeganR: +1 | 20:09 |
| ildikov | maybe add a note if we know the reason they quit | 20:10 |
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| ekhugen | ildikov +1 I put a note for the one guy who responded all the way over in the rightmost column | 20:10 |
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| ekhugen | should a final email be sent to them, that they're removed from the list and they can fill out the form again if they want to re-apply? | 20:11 |
| ildikov | ekhugen: oh, cool, I need to navigate better :) | 20:11 |
| MeganR | I think that is a good idea, kind of closes the loop | 20:11 |
| ildikov | I think so too and it's always good to tell them they can re-apply | 20:12 |
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| diablo_rojo | I agree. Ties up loose ends | 20:13 |
| ekhugen | okay, sounds goo | 20:13 |
| ekhugen | d | 20:13 |
| * ekhugen can't type today | 20:13 | |
| ekhugen | if anyone else wants to send out emails, I'm happy to pass the job along too | 20:13 |
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| * ekhugen figured that would go over like a ton of bricks :-) | 20:15 | |
| CarolBarrett | :) | 20:15 |
| ildikov | :) | 20:15 |
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| MeganR | and I can't blame a poor phone connection! :) | 20:15 |
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| ekhugen | anything else on matches? | 20:15 |
| CarolBarrett | not from me | 20:16 |
| ekhugen | I think it's a good response, only 6 no shows, I was expecting it to be a lot more (I think we had 13 last week) | 20:16 |
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| ekhugen | #topic open | 20:16 |
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| CarolBarrett | I agree, it is a good sign | 20:16 |
| ekhugen | anyone have any other topics | 20:17 |
| ekhugen | maybe meganr anything about the email | 20:17 |
| CarolBarrett | I saw the Boston Summit sponsorships note come out | 20:17 |
| MeganR | what is our meeting schedule over the next few weeks? | 20:17 |
| ekhugen | I'm out the next two weeks, so I was not going to run this meeting, does anyone want these? | 20:18 |
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| MeganR | ekhugen: the only question right now about email is I need to verify Carol's address, may have it incorrect. Carol - I pinged you in a sep. channel. Otherwise it looks fine. | 20:18 |
| CarolBarrett | I'm out til the 3rd too... let's pick it up on the 11th? | 20:19 |
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| ekhugen | cool, thanks Meganr | 20:19 |
| MeganR | CarolBarrett +1 | 20:19 |
| ekhugen | carolbarrett +1 | 20:19 |
| CarolBarrett | MeganR: Are you looking for my gmail address? | 20:19 |
| MeganR | I am - I pinged you in a sep. channel, didn't know if you wanted it here. | 20:19 |
| aimeeu | +1 to resuming on the 11 January | 20:19 |
| ildikov | CarolBarrett: +1 | 20:20 |
| diablo_rojo | +1 | 20:20 |
| CarolBarrett | MeganR: What channel did you ping me on? | 20:20 |
| ekhugen | do people want the calendar invites for the new year? | 20:20 |
| MeganR | IRC | 20:20 |
| MeganR | yes to the calendar invites, please | 20:20 |
| CarolBarrett | MegnaR: Which IRC channel? I didn't know there was a question for me to respond to...? | 20:21 |
| CarolBarrett | +1 on calendar invites | 20:21 |
| CarolBarrett | For Boston sponsorships, the Speed Mentoring breakfast was one of the options. I think we should know who the sponsor will be by the time we get back from the Holidays. | 20:21 |
| ekhugen | I realized I could send them from gmail instead of from my work address, I know some people have had trouble with the calendar invites | 20:21 |
| MeganR | I pinged you directly - no worries, I'll send you an email. | 20:21 |
| CarolBarrett | MeganR: Sorry! | 20:21 |
| ekhugen | preference on gmail vs. lotus notes calendar entries? | 20:21 |
| MeganR | gmail +1 | 20:22 |
| diablo_rojo | CarolBarrett, thats awesome :) | 20:22 |
| aimeeu | gmail +1 | 20:22 |
| CarolBarrett | gmail +1 | 20:22 |
| * ekhugen is not surprised by the lack of love for lotus notes | 20:22 | |
| MeganR | sorry! | 20:22 |
| diablo_rojo | ekhugen, that is probably the #1 thing I dont miss.. | 20:24 |
| ekhugen | and carolbarrett that's awesome | 20:24 |
| ekhugen | I keep thinking one of these days I'll find someone here who loves it | 20:24 |
| ekhugen | but I've been here for 10.5 years and.... | 20:24 |
| CarolBarrett | ekhugen: There's always hope... | 20:24 |
| ekhugen | I was out on Monday, was there anything from the general women of openstack meeting that we should discuss? | 20:25 |
| CarolBarrett | I need to grab lunch and get ready for my next meeting - Happy Holidays to you all! | 20:26 |
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| CarolBarrett | Bye | 20:26 |
| ekhugen | thanks CarolBarrett! Happy new year! | 20:26 |
| ildikov | CarolBarrett: Happy Holidays! | 20:26 |
| MeganR | Happy Holidays! | 20:26 |
| diablo_rojo | Happy Holidays! | 20:26 |
| ekhugen | any other topics? | 20:27 |
| MeganR | I'm good. | 20:27 |
| ekhugen | cool, well thanks everyone for a really great year! I think we've done a lot with the mentoring program because everyone's really pulled together | 20:28 |
| MeganR | Thank you for keeping us on point! | 20:29 |
| ekhugen | I hope you all have a great holiday and happy new year! | 20:29 |
| ildikov | ekhugen: +1 | 20:29 |
| diablo_rojo | Thanks ekhugen for all your hard work! | 20:29 |
| ildikov | And have a great holiday everyone! And have some rest, well deserved! | 20:29 |
| ekhugen | you're welcome :-) | 20:30 |
| ekhugen | #endmeeting | 20:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 20:30:21 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/wos_mentoring/2016/wos_mentoring.2016-12-14-20.00.html | 20:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/wos_mentoring/2016/wos_mentoring.2016-12-14-20.00.txt | 20:30 |
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| notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 14 21:00:26 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
| acoles | here :) | 21:00 |
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| notmyname | who's here for the swift team meeting? | 21:00 |
| nadeem | o/ | 21:00 |
| bkeller` | o/ | 21:00 |
| tdasilva | eu | 21:00 |
| timburke | o/ | 21:00 |
| jrichli | hey | 21:00 |
| clayg | o/ | 21:00 |
| joeljwright | o/ | 21:00 |
| mathiasb | o/ | 21:00 |
| cschwede | o/ | 21:01 |
| mattoliverau | o/ | 21:01 |
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| notmyname | welcome everyone | 21:01 |
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| kota_ | hello | 21:02 |
| notmyname | kota_: I was worried for a second (only a second) | 21:02 |
| notmyname | :-) | 21:02 |
| notmyname | thought you wouldn't make it | 21:02 |
| kota_ | :-) | 21:02 |
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| notmyname | a few things to highlight this week, but first I want to talk about next meetings | 21:02 |
| notmyname | #topic next meetings | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | it's the end of the year, and people will be in and out | 21:03 |
| notmyname | we've got 2 weeks left in the year. so the question is, "do we have a meeting during the next two weeks, or do we skip until january 4?" | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | would anyone like to advocate for either having meetings or not? | 21:04 |
| tdasilva | i'm fine with skip | 21:04 |
| clayg | see you next year suckers! | 21:04 |
| mattoliverau | I'm around for the next 2 weeks, so happy to still do them, but not having them means sleep in.. so I'm really good either way ;) | 21:05 |
| notmyname | heh | 21:05 |
| kota_ | either works to me | 21:05 |
| joeljwright | I can be here next week, after that I'm travelling | 21:05 |
| acoles | I won't be around for next two weds | 21:05 |
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| notmyname | well, the other question is if there's something that will be happening in the next 2 weeks that will need a formal meeting time to discuss | 21:06 |
| notmyname | ok, based on the responses, let's skip until January 4, 2017 | 21:06 |
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| mattoliverau | kk | 21:06 |
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| joeljwright | kk | 21:06 |
| notmyname | #agreed skip meetings until January 4 | 21:06 |
| notmyname | #info skip meetings until January 4 | 21:07 |
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| notmyname | #topic FYI things happening in broader openstack | 21:07 |
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| notmyname | there's been a lot going on, even just this week, that I want to highlight (more than usual) | 21:07 |
| notmyname | oh... | 21:08 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:08 |
| notmyname | FWIW, there's a new #openstack-meeting-5. so lurk there if you like to lurk in meeting rooms | 21:08 |
| notmyname | FYI, the openstack individual board of directors election is coming up | 21:08 |
| notmyname | you can see the candidates at https://www.openstack.org/election/2016-individual-director-election/ | 21:09 |
| notmyname | linked from there | 21:09 |
| notmyname | and the call for presentations for Boston opened today http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/community/2016-December/001690.html | 21:09 |
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| notmyname | so if you want to speak at that openstack forum event, start working on your talk submission | 21:09 |
| notmyname | ok, those were the fast things | 21:09 |
| notmyname | next up... storyboard | 21:09 |
| notmyname | I came across this blog post today https://storyboard-blog.sotk.co.uk/ | 21:10 |
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| notmyname | the summary is that for a few years some people in openstack have been working on a replacement for launchpad that's called storyboard | 21:10 |
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| mattoliverau | I didn't realise storyboard was still a thing.. I thought we stopped working on it a while ago.. so there you go. cool its still a thing | 21:10 |
| notmyname | except it's not completely a replacement in that it doesn't map 1:1 with what LP does | 21:10 |
| notmyname | oh, yeah. it's more than a thing | 21:11 |
| notmyname | there's been a private email thread that's been really active recently that's summarized as "ok, so this is about to be a Thing in openstack and everyone will be using it, so what do you think" | 21:11 |
| cschwede | storyboard is quite nice, once you get used to it. i used it a bit in the past | 21:12 |
| notmyname | point is, well... I'm not sure yet of the point, other than it's a big change that affects everyone's workflow | 21:12 |
| timburke | oh goody | 21:12 |
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| notmyname | cschwede: awesome! I could use your help then. i tried to figure it out, and found it ... not obvious as to what i was supposed to do | 21:12 |
| notmyname | so again, this is an FYI, and I think you can see it in use in some infra projects. if you've got a few minutes, it might be worth a look | 21:13 |
| notmyname | and finally, the golang discussions have started again (or continued?) | 21:14 |
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| acoles | the story/task thing sounds a bit like Jira | 21:14 |
| notmyname | there's a thread on the ML about technical requirements for using golang at http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-December/108875.html | 21:14 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: what's the link to storyboard? | 21:15 |
| acoles | tdasilva: https://storyboard.openstack.org/#!/page/about | 21:15 |
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| notmyname | and there's a governance proposal about a new TC process to approve not-python being discussed at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398875/ | 21:15 |
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| notmyname | acoles: thanks | 21:15 |
| notmyname | both of the golang discussions are about the same sort of things. the ML thread is about what's a "release", how to manage dependencies, and what about any common libraries that might be needed | 21:16 |
| notmyname | the TC resolution basically asks a lot of those same questions saying "if you're going to use not-python, have an answer for all of these things" | 21:17 |
| clayg | neat | 21:17 |
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| notmyname | the most controversial part of the TC resolution is towards the bottom where it talks about common libraries. it strongly implies that the first project to use not-python is responsible for writing oslo equivalents in the new language before using the language in the project | 21:18 |
| acoles | but surely the language would need to be approved before anyone would invest time in writing libraries? | 21:19 |
| clayg | notmyname: if you don't start using the common thing from the get-go it's really hard to migrate to it later when it's more fleshed out without your legacy of use-case built in | 21:19 |
| notmyname | however, an in-person conversation I had last week said that was more to mean "projects writing stuff in not-python shouldn't expect the oslo team to write stuff for you" | 21:19 |
| clayg | i don't think the idea with oslo was ever to get someone else to write code you needed for you | 21:20 |
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| notmyname | the fear is that across the many openstack projects, it's taken a very long time to get everyone using the same versions of common libraries. one would have something in-tree, another would have an old copied version of that, another would be using a common library from oslo, etc | 21:20 |
| notmyname | and the hope is that when starting with a new language, it isn't set up to repeat that diversification of libraries doeing sortof the same thing all over again | 21:21 |
| notmyname | and furthermore, it's "known" than configs and logging are something that needs to be done, regardless of language, so that's why those are called out | 21:22 |
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| clayg | sweet | 21:22 |
| notmyname | so that's the background to that section | 21:22 |
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| acoles | fwiw I did make a start on an oslo config like thing in golang, just as a vehicle for learning the language | 21:23 |
| notmyname | I suspect that this proposal will be approved by the TC, but I suspect it will be slightly modified (in what ways, I'm not entirely sure) | 21:23 |
| notmyname | I think the point is that new-lang needs to read existing configs and log the same way | 21:24 |
| notmyname | (note, that's not actually what's written in the proposal) | 21:24 |
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| cschwede | well, that makes sense, right? we don't want 2.5 different config styles for one service | 21:25 |
| notmyname | cschwede: yes, absolutely | 21:25 |
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| notmyname | hm...rather than being careful with what i say in a logged channel, I'll keep going ;-) | 21:26 |
| acoles | but isn't oslo.config more about declaring config schema etc? the actual config is just an ini file? | 21:26 |
| cschwede | also, it sounds like acoles is already solving that issue with the config;) | 21:26 |
| acoles | unless I am missing something | 21:26 |
| notmyname | so if you're frustrated by this being a seemingly good idea when there were two similar proposals earlier this year, you arent' alone | 21:27 |
| acoles | so with oslo.config I imagine the desire will be to have a common developer pattern - the op experience is just an ini file | 21:27 |
| cschwede | acoles: i think it's also about auto-generating config samples, using only the settings that your project is using | 21:27 |
| clayg | +1 acoles and design the grand unified theory of swift/keystone/hummingbird/pastedeploy configuration | 21:27 |
| acoles | cschwede: yes, but again that's not s much an op experience as a dev experience | 21:27 |
| clayg | +2 if he solves configuration once and for all for all of opnestack - huzzah | 21:28 |
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| notmyname | I find this very frustrating that this proposal is seemingly making progress, while one proposed by the swift team was rejected because it was proposed by the swift team | 21:28 |
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| acoles | clayg: actually I got as far as being frustrated by lack of generics and gave up! | 21:28 |
| acoles | clayg: JK | 21:28 |
| notmyname | but this is the current state of the golang discussion in openstack. so I'm happy to hear that acoles is working on figuring out some basic config stuff in golang! | 21:28 |
| clayg | progress is progress | 21:28 |
| cschwede | notmyname: well, i think it has more to do with timing and discussions inbetween. | 21:28 |
| clayg | cschwede: or it could be what notmyname said | 21:29 |
| notmyname | porque no los dos? | 21:29 |
| clayg | progress is progress | 21:29 |
| notmyname | so all that being said, we've got a large body of work ahead of us related to golang (with little recent progress), and these are the places where we can be involved in that in the larger openstack community | 21:30 |
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| clayg | huzzah | 21:31 |
| notmyname | and I'd like to transition to talking about that. the stuff going on in swift (starting with golang) | 21:31 |
| notmyname | #topic things happening in swift | 21:31 |
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| clayg | i hear 2.12 is the best swift ever | 21:31 |
| notmyname | oh yeah. releases :-) | 21:31 |
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| notmyname | stable releases happened. 2.12.0 should happen today or tomorrow, depending on the openstack-releases team | 21:32 |
| kota_ | oh, release? | 21:32 |
| notmyname | ie i'm plannign on submitting that patch this afternoon | 21:32 |
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| notmyname | kota_: yeah, needed to get a few things out. last chance this year | 21:32 |
| kota_ | notmyname: good call | 21:33 |
| clayg | doo eeeet! | 21:33 |
| notmyname | I know this one is a little more "sudden" instead of talking about it for a few weeks first. sorry if it's taking anyone by surprise | 21:33 |
| notmyname | but it's a good release. best swift ever, in fact ;-) | 21:33 |
| notmyname | so I spent some time this week looking at what's starred, what's on the ideas page, what's being reviewed, etc | 21:33 |
| notmyname | spoiler: it's a lot | 21:33 |
| notmyname | surprise! | 21:34 |
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| notmyname | the short list is still pretty intimidating | 21:34 |
| notmyname | here's the "big stuff" I wrote down (it's on the meeting agenda) | 21:35 |
| acoles | looks like the container sharding bullet point got sharded :) | 21:35 |
| tdasilva | or replicated | 21:35 |
| mattoliverau | as it should :P | 21:35 |
| joeljwright | :) | 21:35 |
| notmyname | golang, global ec, policy migration and tiering (and symlinks), part power increase, container sharding, and metadata searching | 21:35 |
| notmyname | adn container sharding too | 21:35 |
| notmyname | :-) | 21:36 |
| mattoliverau | the list got so long, it needed sharding | 21:36 |
| notmyname | no kidding | 21:36 |
| clayg | that's no *so* bad | 21:36 |
| clayg | i feel like most of them are stuff that we've had ongoing | 21:36 |
| notmyname | clayg: it's only, like, 1.5 years of work ;-) | 21:36 |
| acoles | container sync, keymaster+barbican | 21:36 |
| clayg | well but maybe some of them are close? | 21:36 |
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| notmyname | nah, you're right. most (all?) are well on their way | 21:37 |
| clayg | i keep thinking when I go look at symlinks that'll be mostly done | 21:37 |
| clayg | we'll make some sort of progress on golang | 21:37 |
| clayg | composite rings has *been* done | 21:37 |
| notmyname | acoles: I specifically left those off. not because they aren't important, per se, but because somethign had to be dropped. I'd still like to see those land | 21:37 |
| clayg | policy migration and auto tiering are the future - the elasticsearch sync stuff could be a door opener too | 21:37 |
| clayg | increase part power is basically done | 21:37 |
| clayg | global ec can make progress before it's "done" | 21:38 |
| notmyname | yeah, composite rings, part power, ec replication are all pretty close | 21:38 |
| clayg | this is a great list | 21:38 |
| acoles | notmyname: yep, and they are more incremental than others | 21:38 |
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| clayg | this is great | 21:38 |
| cschwede | clayg: absolutely! i just need to work on the comments by Pete and you can merge it :) | 21:38 |
| clayg | cschwede: ack | 21:38 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: would it make sense to prioritize that list somehow?? not sure if it's feasible or not | 21:38 |
| notmyname | we've all realized that one of the problems is that we've got a huge list. this is my attempt at focusing in down | 21:38 |
| kota_ | i'm still waiting to get merged :-) | 21:38 |
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| notmyname | yeah! first priority is to merge kota_'s stuff! | 21:39 |
| notmyname | ;-) | 21:39 |
| mattoliverau | speaking on sharding, I've moved a bunch (not the sharding itself) but interacting with shards into the proxy which has cleaned up some not so pretty code, and will make clayg happier. but it does add a little overhead. but so far its better. Although I've been debugging some of that in my benchmarks. But I think its worth it. | 21:39 |
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| notmyname | tdasilva: it could be prioritized to some extent, but also we can do several in parallel | 21:39 |
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| notmyname | what I'd like to do next, myself, is organize that list a little more to show what's going on in each | 21:41 |
| notmyname | and I think for everyone, I'd ask that you prioritize reviewing things on this list | 21:41 |
| clayg | it's good to know what's close and what still might need to have scope trimmed | 21:41 |
| notmyname | (obviously, stuff comes up, like the fun with ec 2 weeks ago) | 21:41 |
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| clayg | it's also good to know when something is close who is going to rally to push it over the finish line | 21:42 |
| notmyname | yep, exactly | 21:42 |
| notmyname | I'll associate patches with each of these so we can see that | 21:43 |
| notmyname | as a first pass, i'll update the priority reviews page. ie before I invent a totally new (and awesomer) dashboard | 21:43 |
| notmyname | so.... | 21:44 |
| notmyname | #topic open discussion | 21:44 |
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| notmyname | anythign else to bring up or discuss this week? | 21:44 |
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| acoles | so is the kind of thing that story board should help with - tracking patches and progress under topics? | 21:45 |
| clayg | isa-l-rs-cauchy is the best ec thing evar | 21:45 |
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| joeljwright | would love people to look at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/365371 if they have time | 21:45 |
| notmyname | acoles: I have no idea | 21:45 |
| timburke | i could use some eyes on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310075/ (joeljwright, maybe?) | 21:45 |
| notmyname | oh! there's a couple of things I'd like to see land in swiftclient (like the new tempurl support) this week and then do a release of that next week | 21:45 |
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| clayg | we should merge pyeclib into liberasurecode (and future golang bindings should *also* ship inside of liberasurecode) | 21:45 |
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| notmyname | clayg: I like that idea | 21:45 |
| joeljwright | timburke: kk | 21:45 |
| clayg | joeljwright: I keep seeing that get updated | 21:45 |
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| timburke | oh yeah, kota_: are you on board with what i pushed over at https://review.openstack.org/#/c/405929/ ? | 21:46 |
| joeljwright | clayg: the updates recently have been rebase/fixes, I believe it's 'done' now | 21:46 |
| notmyname | FWIW the one timburke mentioned (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/310075/) is getting some priority inside of swiftstack, so we'll likely try to land that soon | 21:46 |
| cschwede | clayg: we should do that probably around the same time the next big release is coming (Ocata) | 21:46 |
| clayg | joeljwright: timburke if normally my goto "crazy new client/api feature awesome sause!?!!" - but it looks like he's already looking at it? | 21:46 |
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| cschwede | clayg: otherwise it might get messy for distributors if we switch to a single pkg | 21:47 |
| kota_ | timburke: yeah, sorry no response but that last rev looks super great to me. | 21:47 |
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| notmyname | cschwede: interesting. so when, exactly woudl that be? ie why later as opposed to now? | 21:48 |
| mattoliverau | clayg: I had a play with your concurrent gets testing patch and pushed up a new verson, hope that's ok. | 21:48 |
| acoles | we should get this in shape and merged https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402043 Optimize hash calculation when suffix hash invalidated | 21:48 |
| timburke | and we should probably do https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407829/, maybe add a gating job for it... | 21:48 |
| notmyname | from their perspective, aren't we already working on ocata | 21:48 |
| clayg | commit message on patch 310075 seems reasonable - i'll star it at least - didn't realize it was a priority | 21:48 |
| tdasilva | cschwede: would we have a single package? | 21:48 |
| cschwede | notmyname: well, i'd like Pete's view on this; but if we ship fixes for stable versions and switch from two to one package it might get more difficult for packagers | 21:49 |
| notmyname | lol @ "here's some priorities" followed by a flurry of patches not about those ;-) | 21:49 |
| cschwede | tdasilva: that was my understanding | 21:49 |
| tdasilva | cschwede: i think we could still hae multiple packages, no? | 21:49 |
| timburke | kota_: i'm not sure, but maybe we can drop the 'WIP'? not sure what to do about tests though... | 21:49 |
| clayg | mattoliverau: of course - that's fine - always push over me | 21:49 |
| notmyname | cschwede: yeah, definitely should get input from pete and onovy. good call | 21:49 |
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| tdasilva | cschwede: one repo, one release, but i think we would want multiple packages (libec, python-binding, golang binding) | 21:49 |
| cschwede | tdasilva: hmm, good question! i don't know, but might be a possible interim solution? | 21:49 |
| tdasilva | not everything in one big package | 21:50 |
| clayg | i never checkout my own branches, once it's in gerrit i only get it from `git review -d XXX` so I don't even really "notice" - it's not like there's a tracking branch non-ff merge sorta worry | 21:50 |
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| joeljwright | timburke: 310075 looks dead useful, I'll get eyes on it | 21:50 |
| kota_ | timburke: er, the reason I added WIP to it is because I was thinking about how to get merged that smoothly but in your version, we can do it really easy so +1 to remove the WIP | 21:50 |
| clayg | acoles: +1 on the rehash patch 402043 - top priority - that is so frustrating! | 21:51 |
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| clayg | timburke: I'd rather work on merging pyeclib to liberasurecode and dodge the issue of trying to test pyeclib with a matrix of liberasurecode versions | 21:51 |
| acoles | clayg: uhuh | 21:52 |
| timburke | clayg: fair enough | 21:52 |
| tdasilva | If no one is interested, I could start looking at merging pyeclib and libec | 21:53 |
| clayg | tdasilva: do it do it do it | 21:53 |
| cschwede | fix it! | 21:53 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: I think you just volunteered ;-0) | 21:53 |
| kota_ | clayg: i like the idea to merge pyeclib to libec as a binding but still am thinking of how to package the binding to pypi repo or with c binary | 21:53 |
| kota_ | perhaps someone has great idea :P | 21:54 |
| notmyname | kota_: I'll bet tdasilva has a great idea | 21:54 |
| tdasilva | one of my concerns are the current proposed patches on gerrit | 21:54 |
| clayg | kota_: what is normally _pyeclib.so just has all the liberasure up in it IMHO | 21:54 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: worst case, we'd abandon and repropose. but something to consider | 21:54 |
| tdasilva | kota_: i'm going to start by checkign with zaitcev and onovy on the packaging question | 21:55 |
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| cschwede | kota_, you mean shipping the pypi pkg with the C source? that's totally possible IIRC | 21:55 |
| kota_ | clayg: may be. so removing liberasurecode.so. sounds working. | 21:55 |
| tdasilva | but i'm pretty certain it is at least possible to have multiple packages | 21:55 |
| clayg | cschwede: pyeclib already has c code in it | 21:55 |
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| * onovy is here | 21:55 | |
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| notmyname | onovy: go to bed ;-) | 21:55 |
| tdasilva | lol | 21:55 |
| onovy | notmyname: i'm in bed :) | 21:55 |
| clayg | I think pyeclib just goes away "this was a bad idea, but technically liberasurecode can comiple to .so - and this could sorta work; but it's not maintained" | 21:56 |
| notmyname | lol | 21:56 |
| notmyname | onovy: we've got a packaging question, but it's not urgent | 21:56 |
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| onovy | np, just ask | 21:56 |
| clayg | liberasure code just grows some CPython code and a setup.py | 21:56 |
| timburke | tdasilva: on patches, libec looks clean. most of the pyeclib ones are mine, and a lot of them have to do with the fact that they're two repos | 21:56 |
| notmyname | onovy: wondering about combining pyeclib and liberasurecode | 21:56 |
| clayg | we publish python-liberasurecode and call it a day | 21:56 |
| onovy | "combining"? | 21:56 |
| cschwede | clayg: yes, but i was thinking about including libec, and that should work fine too (?) | 21:56 |
| notmyname | onovy: like, how much pain does that cause for distros. | 21:56 |
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| timburke | i can apply them again wherever you want them. or just merge them before it matters :-) | 21:56 |
| notmyname | onovy: yep. combining. one code repo | 21:56 |
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| onovy | notmyname: two projects is better imho | 21:57 |
| notmyname | onovy: not sure if one deliverable or multiple yet. tdasilva will figure that out for us | 21:57 |
| onovy | liberasurecode is used by other projects | 21:57 |
| onovy | without python wrapper | 21:57 |
| notmyname | the idea is to have the language bindings in the same project. python, future golang, etc | 21:57 |
| onovy | ah | 21:57 |
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| onovy | yep, it's possible, but not needed | 21:57 |
| notmyname | onovy: well, it would really help on the dev side | 21:58 |
| onovy | it will make packaging only little bit harder | 21:58 |
| onovy | because you join it and i will split it :) | 21:58 |
| notmyname | heh | 21:58 |
| onovy | because some projects should want C binding only | 21:59 |
| notmyname | onovy: but like I said, it's not time-critical to figure out in the next 1 minute. but you and tdasilva should talk about it at a more convenient time | 21:59 |
| clayg | lots of source repos produce seperate packages | 21:59 |
| onovy | notmyname: ok | 21:59 |
| notmyname | we're at full time for the meeting | 21:59 |
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| onovy | clayg: yep, np | 21:59 |
| notmyname | thank you everyone for coming | 21:59 |
| notmyname | thank you for working on swift | 21:59 |
| clayg | i think this workflow makes more sense than two independent repos that must always and forever be updated/repackaged together at the same time and track their dependencies very closely | 21:59 |
| tdasilva | clayg: exactly | 21:59 |
| onovy | clayg: sounds good | 22:00 |
| clayg | pull new source; build; you get n+ packages | 22:00 |
| notmyname | clayg: +1 from me | 22:00 |
| notmyname | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 14 22:00:11 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2016/swift.2016-12-14-21.00.html | 22:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2016/swift.2016-12-14-21.00.txt | 22:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2016/swift.2016-12-14-21.00.log.html | 22:00 |
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