Wednesday, 2016-12-21

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sridhar_ram#startmeeting tacker05:30
openstackMeeting started Wed Dec 21 05:30:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is sridhar_ram. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.05:30
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sridhar_ram#topic Roll Call05:30
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sridhar_ramwho is here for tacker meeting?05:30
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sridhar_ramhowdy all!05:31
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sridhar_ram#chair tbh sripriya gongysh KanagarajM05:31
openstackCurrent chairs: KanagarajM gongysh sridhar_ram sripriya tbh05:31
sridhar_ramlets start..05:31
sridhar_ram#topic Agenda05:32
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sridhar_ramlight agenda ...!05:32
sridhar_ramanything else beyond this ?05:32
sridhar_ram#topic Annoucements05:33
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sridhar_ramI'm thinking to cancel next week's meeting due to holiday week05:33
sridhar_ramanyone have major issues ?05:33
gongyshsridhar_ram, no, not yet.05:34
sridhar_ramokay... will cancel05:34
sripriya+1 to cancel next week's meeting, since many will be on holidays05:34
sridhar_ram#info No Tacker Weekly meeting on Dec 28th due to holiday week05:35
sridhar_ramhowever please continue to post patchsets and do code reviews..05:35
sridhar_ramWe have just about 4 weeks to do client release05:36
sridhar_ramso any blueprints with API changes .. please push your client changes first05:36
sridhar_ram#topic Ocata Blueprint Status05:36
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sridhar_ram#topic NSD update05:36
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sridhar_ramtbh: dkushwaha: can you guys give an update ?05:37
dkushwahasridhar_ram, tbh already push some patches.05:37
dkushwahasridhar_ram, Currently working in mistral part05:37
tbhsridhar_ram, We have outer part like api, db and client changes ready and dkushwaha is working on mistral workflow generator part05:38
dkushwahasridhar_ram, I needed some investigation in mistral side.05:38
sridhar_ramtbh: dkushwaha: wonderful.. i like the way you both sequencing your work..05:38
dkushwahasridhar_ram, I have a question, regarding vnf create, should we call mistral for individual vnfs or call mistrall for the set of vnfs? kindly suggest05:39
sridhar_ramdkushwaha: i'd lean todays a single mistral workflow for all VNF creations ..05:40
gongyshdkushwaha, is the mistral a must for NSD to work?05:40
sripriyagongysh: please refer to the NSD spec for the mistral requirement05:41
sridhar_ramgongysh: we have taken a conscious decision to embrace a workflow engine05:41
dkushwahagongysh, yes. We are going through mistral workflow05:41
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sridhar_ramgongysh: this is to future proof and leverage the rich mistral workflows out there in the community05:42
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sridhar_ramgongysh: to do simple things like send an email / alert after a respawn or auto-scale05:43
dkushwahasridhar_ram, make sence to use single workflow. Thanks. But I am not much sure if mistral do in parallel05:43
sridhar_ramdkushwaha: what you mean by "in parallel"05:43
KanagarajM+1 on mistral role with tacker.05:43
dkushwahasridhar_ram, I had asked mistral guy, and waiting for response05:44
sridhar_ramdkushwaha: it will be ideal if a mistral dev joins us as a co-contributor05:45
sripriyadkushwaha: isn't that the default behavior unless you provide a dependency between the steps?05:45
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dkushwahasridhar_ram, mistral workflow execute next task after completing of current one IMO05:45
sridhar_ramdkushwaha: this can work both ways, parallel should be the default.. but there are times you want the VNFs to come up in specific order .. a dependency will be useful05:47
sridhar_ramsripriya: did any mistral devs stop by in the summit to help?05:47
sripriyasridhar_ram: looks it is sequential as per the docs
sridhar_rami thought that would speed up / de-risk this BP05:48
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sridhar_ramKanagarajM: curious about HOT template, how does Heat handles multiple OS::Node::Server resources ? do they get created in parallel or sequential ?05:49
dkushwahasridhar_ram, I know mistral core member personally, and will ask him.05:49
sridhar_ramdkushwaha: sounds good!05:49
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KanagarajMsridhar_ram, heat would create an dependency graph and travse from leaf nodes05:50
KanagarajMsridhar_ram, and all indepdent leaf nodes would executed in parallel05:50
sridhar_ramKanagarajM: I see.. that's good to know. thanks!05:50
sridhar_ramdkushwaha: tbh: thanks for the update..05:50
sridhar_ramone last on NSD, we need some volunteers (both core and non-core) to review NSD patchset ..05:51
KanagarajMsridhar_ram, i felt mistral gives that graph control to the user, while heat manages by itself05:51
sridhar_ramanyone ?05:51
sridhar_ramKanagarajM: that was my thought too05:51
sridhar_ramKanagarajM: .. i meant, user has control over the sequence05:51
KanagarajMsridhar_ram, yes05:51
gongyshKanagarajM, workflow is an engine. user can do ordering.05:52
gongyshheat do it in its own way.05:52
jankisridhar_ram, I will try to review over the weekend05:52
sridhar_ramjanki: thanks!05:52
KanagarajMgongysh, yes !05:52
sridhar_ramKanagarajM: gongysh: can one of you sign up to review NSD patchsets ?05:53
tbhthanks janki!05:53
gongyshsridhar_ram, let me cover the NSD patchsets05:53
jankisridhar_ram, tbh wc :)05:53
KanagarajMsridhar_ram, sure.05:53
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sridhar_ramKanagarajM: gongysh: thanks!05:53
sridhar_ramanything else on NSD ?05:54
sridhar_ramdkushwaha: tbh: are you planning to add corresponding tacker-horizon changes as well ?05:54
tbhsridhar_ram, yup changes are made locally, but facing some issues with existing repo05:55
sridhar_ramtbh: okay, thanks05:55
tbhsridhar_ram, so will test in different dev env and push those changes too05:55
sridhar_ramtbh: sounds good05:55
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digasorry got late05:55
sridhar_ram#topic API Framework05:55
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sridhar_ramdiga: timing couldn't be better05:55
sridhar_ramdiga: please give an update to the team05:56
digaI had discussion with infra team05:56
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digaironic team is facing some problem working on pecan + wsme05:57
digapecan& wsme is not stable support05:57
digainfra team jroll strongly oppose to go with pecan way05:58
digathey are suggesting either go with flask or falcon for future purpose05:58
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digaso I have gone through falcon & flask, I am thinking to go with falcon as it is faster as compare to flask & has strong communuty support & provide good security features05:59
sripriyadiga: what exactly do you mean by pecan and wsme is not stable05:59
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digasripriya: Actually wsme doesn't have stable support which we are going to use for validation06:01
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digasripriya: pecan is ok, but infra team is saying we should not go with pecan way as they are facing lot of issues in ironic now06:01
sripriyadiga: do you mean the package is not maintained consistently with web frameworks?06:02
sridhar_ramsripriya: biggest problem, according to jroll, wsme is no longer maintained and difficult to get support06:02
digasridhar_ram: yep06:02
sripriyasridhar_ram: diga: ok06:02
KanagarajMdiga, is falcon already part of global-requirements ?06:02
sridhar_ramPecan has a different problem of sorts as it is seen has too heavy weight.. pulling in lots of dependencies .. bigger attach surface06:02
sripriyasridhar_ram: i wonder about the other projects that have already integrated pecan framework such as neutron etc06:03
gongyshFileTypePy VersionUploaded onSize06:03
gongyshWSME-0.8.0-py2-none-any.whl (md5)Python Wheelpy22015-08-2506:03
digasripriya: sridhar_ram :  yes, infra team is suggesting that means it is already adopted by the community06:03
digaKanagarajM: yes06:03
KanagarajMdiga, ok. thanks.06:03
sridhar_ramsripriya: i'm also interested in seeing the list of openstack projects that switched to Falcon06:04
digaI think we should go with falcon, will update the patch06:04
gongyshfalcon-1.1.0-py2.py3-none-any.whl (md5, pgp)Python Wheelpy2.py32016-10-27122KB06:04
gongyshit seems wsme is not updated for a long time.06:04
sridhar_rammy general understanding is Pecan proliferated due to cut & paste off Ironic .. but some sense has prevailed on better light weight alternatives06:05
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gongyshfalcon is in active developing.06:05
digasridhar_ram: sripriya : sure, will send you details on how many projects are now using falcon06:05
sridhar_ramdiga: thanks06:05
sridhar_ramSee think as well
sripriyadiga: here is a good link explaining some of the performance related metric comparison between pecan and falcon06:05
sridhar_ramagain, giving an edge to Falcon06:05
digasripriya: yeah, gone through it06:05
sripriyasridhar_ram: i was just pasting that link :-) thanks06:05
sridhar_ramsripriya: :)06:06
sridhar_ramdiga: is it just Falson or it is going to be Falcon + Flask ?06:06
sridhar_rami've seen cases in my earlier work using CherryPy + Flask06:06
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digasridhar_ram: it will be just falcon06:06
sridhar_ramdiga: okay06:06
sripriyaKanagarajM: here is the global requirements
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digasridhar_ram: falcon is light weight, has less dependancies also06:07
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sridhar_ramdiga: team: I also found this thread with subject "let's just use flask" (by Jay Pipes)...06:08
s3wongsorry, was just reminded that we have a meeting today...06:08
digasripriya: sridhar_ram : will update the PS today by considering all these things06:08
sridhar_ramI haven't gone through it full06:08
digasridhar_ram: okay06:08
digawill go through it06:08
KanagarajMsridhar_ram, thanks06:08
sridhar_ramdiga: thanks.. !06:08
sridhar_ramKanagarajM: urw!06:08
sridhar_rams3wong: hi there!06:09
digasridhar_ram: welcome!06:09
KanagarajMsridhar_ram, :)06:09
sridhar_ramdiga: I guess the branch name will be "falcon-api-framework"06:09
KanagarajMsripriya, thanks.06:09
sripriyasridhar_ram: thanks for the link06:09
KanagarajMi see the bench marking
digasridhar_ram: yeah06:10
sridhar_ramanother question..06:10
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sridhar_ramare we going to go with a v2 version of the API with new Falcon and leave the current wsgi serving v1 ?06:11
digasridhar_ram: will propose "falcon-api-framework" now but will update the PS today, & need to finalize it by End of this week06:11
digasridhar_ram: I suggest, we should go with v2 because its complete API refactoring06:11
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sridhar_ramdiga: +106:11
gongyshsridhar_ram, I think we should bump up the version.06:11
sridhar_ramothers: thoughts ? this is a big decision06:12
dkushwahadiga, +106:12
gongyshbut do we need to do back compatible?06:12
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sripriyasridhar_ram: are we changing the way the API interactions are done by users?06:12
sripriyasridhar_ram: the purpose of introducing the framework is to have minimal impact on the API itself right?06:12
KanagarajMdiga, sridhar_ram does falcon not conflict with existing framework , if we plan to use falcon in addition ?06:12
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digasripriya: No, endpoint & user interaction will remain same06:13
sripriyadiga: then why should we bump the version?06:13
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sridhar_ramthat is an unknown to me, will be happy if the API stays the same after the Falcon switchover.. but i'm skeptical06:13
digasripriya: we may need to do some changes in the user interaction, we may not know06:14
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KanagarajMsripriya, yes, we should not change the version for changing the api framework.06:14
sripriyasridhar_ram: diga: IMO it should not change06:14
dkushwahasridhar_ram, i will suggest to have new api version with standard return codes06:14
digaI am going through falcon now, will put my understanding in the PS so that we can decide on that06:14
gongyshdiga, it we don't change much, maybe we just change it into 1.1 to improve some response status code.06:14
s3wongyeah, normally we change endpoint (v2/...) if we bump version06:14
sridhar_ramagain, i agree in principal.. but the devil is in the detail that only when diga gets in we will know06:15
digagongysh: yes, better approach06:15
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sridhar_ramfair enough, lets diga do his homework.. but the preference is no version bump, may be a minor bump to 1.1 and the goal is to switch over06:16
sripriyasridhar_ram: moving to a new framework should not change the way the user interacts with the API, even if it does, it is responsibility of the framework to handle such usecases06:16
sripriyasridhar_ram: +106:16
digasripriya: yes06:16
sridhar_ramsripriya: that is a noble goal ...06:16
KanagarajMsripriya, +1 yes  !06:16
sridhar_ramlets stick to it06:17
KanagarajMdiga, does falcon support swagger ?06:17
digaKanagarajM: Not sure, I will have to check06:17
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KanagarajMdiga, i think OpenStack community is thinking of swagger integration in API. so it would be better choice if falcon gives swagger support.06:18
digasridhar_ram: :) thanks06:18
tbhKanagarajM, no direct support in falcon, but can use falcon-swagger package for that06:18
KanagarajMsridhar_ram, tbh thx :)06:18
KanagarajMsounds better !06:18
gongyshI am looking forward to new API and swagger.06:19
digagongysh: +1 Sure06:19
sridhar_ramtime to ditch more archaic neutron code ;-)06:19
sridhar_ramno offense to neutron06:19
sridhar_ramdiga: as you get more clarity, I'd also need to estimate the effort / rough date of completion for release planning purposes06:20
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digasridhar_ram: Sure06:20
digasridhar_ram: I will update PS today EOD, we can discuss in the evening06:21
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sridhar_ramdiga: sounds good06:21
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sridhar_ramanything else on this subject ?06:21
digathat's all from my side06:21
sridhar_ramdiga: thanks for taking this forward !!06:21
gongyshwe also need a configure opt to switch between wsgi and falcon.06:21
sridhar_ramgongysh: i was thinking the same, a safety backup switch06:22
gongyshI don't think we need an independent branch for this feature.06:22
gongyshlet's us do it in the master branch.06:22
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sridhar_ramgongysh: no, this is a high risk.. we are not sure about the release window when we can get this in and also most project using a separate feature branch for api-framework changes06:23
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diga_sorry got disconnected06:24
gongyshsridhar_ram, our task is easier than neutron.06:24
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sridhar_ramgongysh: well.. I'd be happier if this turns out into an easy task06:25
sridhar_rambut let's take a conservative approach06:25
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* sridhar_ram notes just few mins left...06:26
sridhar_ram#topic Open Discussion06:26
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xuhaiwei_sridhar_ram, do we need to discuss the senlin integration part any more?06:26
sridhar_ramKanagarajM: quick question on the TOSCA auto-scaling fix for nested templates06:26
sridhar_ramKanagarajM: is the fix for specific VDU target going to merge soon ?06:27
KanagarajMsridhar_ram, i am following up with sehdev and once its merged, i would start to migrate the current code to use06:27
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sridhar_ramxuhaiwei_: did you had a chance to update the couple of questions we have in the meeting .. manual scaling and one more that i couldn't remember06:27
KanagarajMsridhar_ram, hoping things shuld start by next week !06:28
gongyshKanagarajM, what is sehdev doing?06:28
sridhar_ramKanagarajM: thanks06:28
KanagarajMgongysh, enabling the nested template in ht06:28
xuhaiwei_sridhar_ram: In fact, I have already updated the spec last week
sridhar_ramWe can circle back on tacker-senlin in the next meeting.. sorry, we are out of time today06:28
sridhar_ramxuhaiwei_: oh, will review.. i think it is close IMO06:29
sridhar_ramcores: please review / sign off tacker-senlin06:29
xuhaiwei_sridhar_ram: thanks06:29
sridhar_ramKanagarajM: specifically you!06:29
sripriyasridhar_ram: ack06:29
sridhar_ramAlright folks - times up06:29
sridhar_ramHappy newyear and merry christmas !06:29
KanagarajMsridhar_ram, sure.06:29
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sridhar_ramtalk to you all next year :)06:29
sripriyahappy holidays everyone06:29
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oneswig#startmeeting scientific_wg09:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Dec 21 09:00:50 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at
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oneswighello world ...09:01
priteauGood morning!09:01
oneswigHi priteau!09:01
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oneswigPeople really are winding down for Christmas, I guess :-)09:01
oneswig#link agenda for today is
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oneswigI am at Bristol Parkway and have a train to catch in about 30 minutes, so need to give half apologies myself!09:02
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oneswig#chair b1airo09:03
openstackCurrent chairs: b1airo oneswig09:03
oneswigHi b1airo09:03
oneswigJust us and priteau so far...09:03
b1airobit tardy sorry - at the beach with the family and the usual schedule has gone out the window09:03
priteauEvening blair09:03
oneswigYou're at the beach right now?09:03
priteauLucky you!09:03
b1airohi priteau, oneswig09:04
oneswigThat's so Australian09:04
oneswigrespect :-)09:04
b1airowell, it's 80m or so away09:04
b1airoi'll grill you a prawn09:04
davehollandI'm sure you could get wifi that far09:04
oneswigHi daveholland09:04
davehollandhi, only grey skies here09:05
oneswig#topic Events and CFPs09:05
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b1airodaveholland, with the property values down here i'm sure you can get fibre if you want to pay!09:05
oneswigDoes everyone have the agenda with the links in it?09:06
oneswig3 events arrived in the in-tray this week - OpenStack Boston, Red Hat (also in Boston) and OpenFabrics Summit (in Austin)09:06
oneswigHi verdurin09:06
oneswigjust getting going09:06
b1airoi'll be back in 5, last administration of dr suess for the day is required...09:07
oneswigto thing 1 or thing 2?09:07
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oneswigThe OpenFabrics workshop looked interesting because virtualisation and OFA is specifically called out as a topic for discussion09:08
oneswigAnd I believe it coincides with a Dell community event, for the Dell customers out there...09:08
verdurinoneswig: Is the Red Hat event their usual Summit?09:08
oneswigI think so.  Not been - have you?09:09
priteaufirst time it is colocated with the OpenStack Summit though?09:09
oneswigPresumably not a coincidence... good move on their part.  Ironically I may be able to attend the RH summit but not the OpenStack one09:10
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oneswigAny other incoming events to be aware of?09:11
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oneswigAha, good point, glad you mentioned it!09:11
verdurinThere's usually quite a lot of OpenStack-related stuff09:12
oneswigAs it happens (clueless me) one of my team has a paper accepted at the postgres conference coincident with FOSDEM - on monitoring with Monasca and postgres09:12
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oneswigOK lets move on09:13
oneswig#topic GPUs and virtualisation09:13
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oneswig#link heres what was discussed last week
oneswigI think b1airo was talking about summarising in an etherpad09:15
b1airoback! (oneswig: one fish, two fish ... - delivered to thing 1)09:15
oneswigUnfortunately powerd I believe is in India09:15
oneswigaha - any luck on that etherpad b1airo?09:15
b1airoindia? for work?09:15
oneswigyes - conference - Indian SC (can't remember the name)09:16
b1airoyeah let me find it again, had to kill my browser earlier...09:16
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b1airooh have we lost oneswig ?09:21
oneswigah, still here, but about to head off - waiting for a train09:21
b1airolooks like the channel topic changed, perhaps meetbot has headed off for xmas??09:22
oneswiggood point09:23
oneswig#topic GPUs and virtualisation09:23
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oneswigany luck b1airo?09:23
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oneswigThanks b1airo looks handy, will study09:25
b1airoit's very much still WIP09:25
oneswigwhy blacklist nouveau?09:26
b1airoi only managed 5 mins earlier09:26
oneswignot familiar with it...09:26
b1airoif nouveau (or anything else, e.g., nvidia drivers) bind to the device in the hypervisor then passthrough will appear to work but the device will not work in the guest09:27
oneswigDo you use the same trick with glance image attributes or is it tied to flavors and host aggregates?09:27
b1aironouveau is an "Accelerated Open Source driver for nVidia cards"09:27
oneswigI'm out of time - have to catch my train - apologies09:28
b1airoflavors and aggregates09:28
b1airono worries oneswig09:28
oneswigthanks all, have a good Christmas - barbecued or not!09:28
b1airomerry xmas, happy new year!09:28
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b1airoanyone else still paying attention? we figured things would be pretty quiet to-day/night09:29
priteauHappy holidays onovy09:29
priteauOops, too late09:29
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priteaub1airo: I will review your etherpad to check how the scheduler could be configured to allow additional instances to use CPU resources09:30
priteaubut nothing else to contribute on the topic right nowo09:32
b1airopriteau, great - i haven't really added anything on that yet, might be better to wait until the new year when the content settles a bit09:32
b1airoi think you already understand the problem though09:32
priteauI see you've got some scheduler details in there already (PciPassthroughFilter)09:34
verdurinI'm still here, but only just back from holiday, so not much new to add09:34
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b1airothanks verdurin09:35
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b1airowhat do folks think would be useful in terms of docs re. GPUs in/with OpenStack ?09:36
priteauAre there existing docs covering GPUs specifically already, or is it only generally about PCI passthrough?09:37
b1airojust PCI passthrough AFAIK09:38
verdurinb1airo: we need docs from both operators' and users' points of view (maybe stating the obvious)09:38
b1airofrom there you're into blogs (if lucky) and list posts09:38
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b1airoverdurin, interesting - i hadn't really thought about specific user docs before09:39
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verdurinb1airo: might not actually be necessary, but I think a full description of how to run a GPU application on OpenStack would be worthwhile09:40
priteauyeah a full guide with usage example would be helpful09:40
verdurinpriteau: exactly09:41
b1airoi'm sure you're right, and it probably fits in nicely with the GPU compute and graphics acceleration possibilities with e.g. PCI passthrough09:44
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b1airo#topic AOB (any other business)09:45
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b1airoany other news or shall we wrap it up for now?09:45
verdurinNot from me.09:46
b1airooneswig, martial and i need to catch up on boston organisation and report back to the group09:46
priteauNothing from me09:46
b1airowe need to be proposing sessions very soon09:46
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b1airoalright, may as well put this to bed (and myself :-) )09:49
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priteauMerry Christmas on the beach b1airo09:50
verdurinBye, Happy Christmas.09:50
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priteauAre you planning to have a meeting next week? I won't be able to join09:51
priteauNor the first one of 201709:51
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b1airopriteau, no i won't be around next week09:52
b1airoi think we'll skip the next two weeks, but we'll confirm on-list09:52
priteauSounds good09:52
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priteauHave a great holiday09:52
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b1airothanks priteau, likewise!09:54
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joehuang#startmeeting tricircle13:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Dec 21 13:01:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is joehuang. Information about MeetBot at
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joehuang#topic rollcall13:01
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liukun#info liukun13:01
joehuang#info joehuang13:01
dongfeng01#info dongfeng13:01
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yinxiulin#info xiulin13:01
WuCheng#info Wucheng13:01
Yipei#info Yipei13:01
JunSik#info JunSik13:01
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zhiyuan#info zhiyuan13:02
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joehuang#topic VxLAN L2 networking/L3 DVR issue13:02
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liuzeyu#info liuzyu13:03
joehuanglast week we discussed VxLAN network across Neutron13:03
joehuangand one action is to contact Neutron team how we can contribute to the VTEP in port13:04
joehuangbut not received response yet13:04
joehuangand also not see any new progress in this topic recently13:04
joehuangso I discussed with Zhiyuan offline to find out whether we can have some way to address this issue if no improvement from Neutron13:05
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joehuangZhiyuan, could you share the idea in short13:05
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zhiyuanok, give me some time to type :)13:07
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zhiyuanlet's say we have one vm port1 created in pod1 and one vm port2 created in pod2, to connect port1 and port2, we create a shadow port for port1 in pod2 and also a shadow agent in pod2, so the ovs agents in pod2 will get information of shadow port1 and the VTEP information from the shadow agent, and create the VxLAN tunnel to pod113:12
zhiyuanthe shadow agent has the same host ip as the agent port1 in pod1 is bound to13:12
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joehuangyes, and the shadow agent will not work as RPC server13:14
joehuangso no RPC message will be sent to the shadow agent13:14
joehuangbut L2 population will carry all fdb entry including the shadow port to local agents13:14
joehuangthis is the rough idea13:15
joehuangat the same time13:15
zhiyuanthe intuition is that we "cheat" local Neutron server in the other pod with shadow ports and shadow agents information, to let local Neutron server consider the remote ports as local ones13:15
Yipeiare all the vm ports in one pod share the same agent?13:15
joehuangto Yipei, this mode could work as L2GW mode13:15
joehuangi.e, all shadow ports are located in one shadow L2GW agent13:16
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Yipeiok, i see13:16
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zhiyuanotherwise, each agent in one pod has shadow agents in other pods, if shared VxLAN networking is needed in those pods13:17
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joehuangbut if we want tunneling from compute node to compute node, then they are on different shadow agents just like the virtual site13:17
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joehuangto Zhiyuan, this is the CN <-> CN mode13:17
joehuangif only one shadow agents for one pod, then it's CN(s) -> L2GW mode13:18
joehuangAnd one more point13:18
joehuangI also think that the DVR mac issue(can't recogized by the other OpenStack) can also be addressed by this mode13:19
joehuangi.e, introduce shadow DVR mac13:19
joehuangas shadow agent13:20
joehuangto Junsik, do you think it's feasible?13:20
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joehuanghello, Junsik?13:22
JunSikYes, I think so.13:22
joehuangand others' thought?13:23
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joehuangany questions13:25
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joehuangThis is one interesting direction we can move, and it's fully decoupled from Neutron implementation13:27
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joehuangand we can work on this direction and keep eye on the Neutron's improvement at the same time13:28
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zhiyuan-caiyes, need to test if this solution works13:29
joehuang#info one idea is to use shade ports/shadow agents to address VxLAN network across Neutron13:29
joehuang#info poc test is needed to see if it's feasible13:29
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joehuangwho are interested in the poc test of this idea?13:31
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joehuangI think for the poc can just hard code to create shadow ports/agents in local neutron plugin13:32
joehuangand to see if it works13:32
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zhiyuan-caimaybe I have a try13:33
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joehuang#topic Ocata feature development review13:34
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joehuanghello, let's have a short review on the feature development, please describe in short thanks, and discuss as needed13:35
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joehuangfor me, the scripts for multi-region gate/check test job is almost ready13:36
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dongfeng01for me, 1) go on with the table clean work and spec file. 2) write the release note of resource routing api.13:36
joehuangneed to submit patch and wait for review/approvement from 3 repositories :)13:36
joehuangto Dongfeng, yes saw and reviewed your patches13:37
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dongfeng01some questions exist in the inline comments for each patch, after they are fixed I will update the patch.13:40
zhiyuan-cai1) spec for bridge network combination has been merged 2) resource deletion, manual installation guide, got +2 3) implementation of bridge network combination, dvr support, under review13:40
joehuangthere are lots of patches in the review queue13:40
zhiyuan-cai4) recently i also submit the patch for xjob reliability improvement13:41
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joehuangto Zhiyuan, great job, you have submitted so many patches13:41
Yipeifor lbaas, i already understand how neutron-lbaas works with agent, but still have some problem with octavia. plan to install tricircle with octavia, test whether it works to add members from other pods, and try to understand how octavia works13:41
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joehuangto Yipei, very good13:41
yinxiulinI am doing port resource update13:41
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joehuangfor members from other pods, may only IPs are applicable, using port may not work unless we have shadow ports there13:42
Yipeioh, yes13:43
joehuangto Xiulin, good, look forward to your new patch13:43
joehuangto xiulin, please confirm that the fields which are update-able for network/subnet/port compared to Neutron API document13:44
yinxiulini will13:45
joehuangthere are also some committer which are not able to attend the meeting13:45
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joehuangso please review the patches by searching
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joehuangsorry /s which who13:47
joehuang#topic open discussion13:48
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joehuangany other topics?13:48
zhiyuan-caino from me13:49
dongfeng01no for me13:49
joehuangChristmas and New year is approching13:49
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joehuangso wish all of us have a pleasant holiday13:50
zhiyuan-caithanks joe13:50
joehuangand a better 201713:50
joehuangand wish Tricircle can be used in production in 201713:51
joehuanggood, if no more topic, let's conclude the meeting13:51
joehuangthank you for attending the meeting13:51
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smcginnis#startmeeting Cinder16:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Dec 21 16:00:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder'16:00
smcginnisPing: dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind jbernard _alastor_ bluex patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino yuriy_n17 karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor baumann rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell stevemar watanabe.isao,tommylikehu mdovgal ildikov16:00
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smcginniswxy viks ketonne16:00
smcginnisHey everyone16:00
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diablo_rojo_phonHello :)16:00
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smcginnis#topic Announcements16:01
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smcginnisThe usual one:16:01
smcginnis#link Review focus16:01
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smcginnisI think we've got some progress there on our priorities, but could always use more reviews.16:02
smcginnis#info Need to register for the PTG if you have not already done so16:02
smcginnisPTG is coming up quick. Please register if you can.16:02
smcginnis#link PTG info and registration16:02
diablo_rojo_phonsmcginnis: +116:02
smcginnis#info Summit call for presentations is open16:03
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smcginnisSummit won't be too far behind. The call for presentations is open for that.16:03
diablo_rojo_phonCinder representation is getting better but still less than a typical midcycle.16:03
smcginnisWould be great to have some good storage related sessions.16:03
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smcginnisHopefully folks are just waiting on (and getting) approval to go.16:04
smcginnis#link Summit CFP16:04
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smcginnisAnd finally,16:04
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smcginnis#info Need to start planning for the PTG16:04
smcginnisStarted an etherpad to start planning topics to cover.16:04
smcginnis#link PTG topic planning16:04
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smcginnisPlease add any topics you would like discussed at the PTG to the etherpad.16:05
smcginnisWe will prioritize and figure out schedule closer to the event.16:05
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duleksmcginnis: We can fill the list with the usual ones.16:05
dulekLike multiattach, A/A, driver deadlines. :D16:05
smcginnisdulek: Hah, yep. Could probably copy paste half of the last etherpad into this one. ;)16:05
jungleboyjsmcginnis: :-)16:06
erlondiablo_rojo_phon: hummm, the bingo is a must!16:06
smcginnisdiablo_rojo_phon: ;)16:06
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scottdadiablo_rojo_phon: You're in charge of prizes16:06
diablo_rojo_phonerlon: read my mind :)16:06
smcginnisscottda: +116:06
smcginnisAnd the cava16:06
erlondiablo_rojo_phon: :)16:06
diablo_rojo_phonscottda: handles of fireball16:06
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diablo_rojo_phonpatrickeast brought the Cava last time16:07
smcginnisOK, that's all I had for announcements. Any last minute topics, or should I just open it up for general discussion?16:07
e0nelet's the holly-war begin :)16:08
smcginnis#topic Open Discussion16:08
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smcginnisBikeshedding time? :)16:08
jungleboyjsmcginnis: When will our next meeting be?  :-)16:08
jungleboyjSince I forgot to ask last time.16:08
smcginnisjungleboyj: Good point, I was going to bring that up before we ended.16:08
jungleboyjI got your back this time.16:09
smcginnisI will be around next Wednesday, but I'm sure most will be busy and there won't be much going on.16:09
smcginnisAny objections if we skip next week and pick up in January?16:09
smcginnisI'll take that as a no. :)16:09
e0nesmcginnis: works for me16:09
scottdaship it16:10
diablo_rojo_phonWorks for me :)16:10
smcginnis#info No meeting next week, will start again in January.16:10
e0nesmcginnis: will you send announcement to the ML?16:10
erlonsame for me16:10
smcginnise0ne: Yes, I'll do that after the meeting.16:10
smcginnisAnd maybe a reminder early next week if I think of it. ;)16:10
hemnaI don't think many folks are going to be around next week16:10
jungleboyjProbably not.16:11
smcginnisYeah, probably not.16:11
smcginnisWe did discuss this patch a little:
smcginnisToo much, IMO.16:11
mdovgalokey) let's discuss it again)16:11
smcginnisI see some value in it if something goes wrong and an admin is tring to figure out what happened.16:11
scottdageguileo: hemna Any reason we shouldn't merge that patch? You've the -1's16:12
smcginnisgeguileo and hemna: I didn't want to approve it while you both had a -1 on there.16:12
e0nesmcginnis: actually, not 'when' but 'where': on nova's side or cinder's side16:12
* geguileo looking16:12
hemnaI just don't see it as being as useful as the assertion in the bug16:12
smcginnise0ne: True16:12
hemnait really isn't16:12
smcginnishemna: Without it there's no breadcrumb to figure out what happened.16:12
hemnaif you want useful information for debugging an actual attachment problem, then you enable trace logging16:12
hemnathat is actually useful information16:12
hemnawhich is the connector, and initiator, and connection_info16:13
erlondo a votint, that only seems personal preferences :)16:13
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geguileoor at least debug level logging16:13
geguileoto me info level seems excesive16:13
hemnait's not a big deal, but that information isn't going to really be useful for a failed attach16:13
e0negeguileo, hemna: that's the problem: all useful logs are available only in debug mode:(16:14
hemnaso make the @trace for attaches info then16:14
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e0nehemna: it helps to understand that cinder works good16:14
hemnathat would be useful16:14
geguileoe0ne: but that's just changing the happy path16:14
geguileonot the one where you get an error16:14
e0nehemna: good point16:14
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hemnalogging something like what he's doing in that patch isn't useful.   "hey I'm attaching a volume to instance uuid."16:15
hemnais basically all that log is16:15
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jungleboyjIt doesn't really hurt anything to do that, but I suppose it ends up being more noise.16:16
geguileoAs I mentioned in the patch, I don't think that's the right thing to do (moreover if we are going to add dynamic log changing soon)16:16
hemnajungleboyj, that's all it is, noise16:16
jungleboyjhemna: Fair enough.16:16
hemnaanyway, I can +A it, but it's just useless IMHO16:17
geguileobut since we don't seem to agree on that and there are some cores who want it I think we should either vote or merge it since it has 3 +216:17
hemnaif you really want useful logging for attaches, you have attach process trace logging and make it always on16:17
e0nehemna: I don't think it's useless. I agree that is's a partial fix16:17
smcginnise0ne: My thoughts too.16:18
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hemnaok it's done16:18
hemna+A'd it16:18
e0nehemna: do you propose to add tracing logs for info lavel?16:18
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hemnaan actual attach failure isn't going to use that information.16:18
e0nehemna: +1. usually it's on the nova's side16:19
smcginnisNow that we've got the really important things figured out.. :D16:19
mdovgalhemna, thx16:19
hemnathe useful information is the connector, connection_info16:19
hemnaand the exceptions16:19
hemnawhat we should have is the ability to add certain workflow logging enabled16:20
hemnaand be able to turn that on/off on the fly.16:20
hemnalike....I want to debug attaches only...enable trace logging for attaches only.16:20
hemnaand then turn it back off16:20
hemnaw/o bouncing Cinder16:20
hemnathat would be useful.16:21
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hemnaok I'll shut up now :)16:21
geguileohemna: that's what the dynamic logging change will allow, right?16:21
hemnawell, as a whole yah16:21
hemnaunless it allows for targeted workflows16:21
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hemnayou don't care about volume creation debugging, but attaches, for example16:21
e0nehemna: the problem is that issue could be mot permanent and when debug is enabled we should wait for a while16:22
xyang2hemna, geguileo: who is working on dynamic logging?  Is there a spec16:22
e0nehemna: it's a good topic to discuss at PTG16:22
geguileoe0ne: but that's the price to not have noise when everything is running fine16:22
hemnae0ne, +116:22
hemnageguileo, yah16:22
geguileoxyang2: there's a spec and I have some code (not up for review)16:22
mdovgalGorka's spec for dynamic log
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jungleboyjDynamic logging would be a nice add.16:25
e0nejungleboyj: +116:25
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smcginnisHoping we can get that.16:26
geguileowhile we are talking about it16:26
geguileodo we want it in O or in P?16:26
hemnagotta run to drop kiddo at school....bbiab16:26
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geguileoI would like to know to move the specs and to know if I have to keep working in the patch now16:27
smcginnisgeguileo: I'd like it in O, but I think P is more realistic at this point.16:27
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jungleboyjgeguileo: How large a change would it be?16:27
geguileoor leave it for later16:27
geguileosmcginnis: the code can be ready in a couple of days16:27
smcginnisWe're past the spec freeze, though I always leave that open to core's discretion if we take things after that.16:27
geguileosmcginnis: we just need to agree when we want it16:27
smcginnisgeguileo: Will that delay the AA work though?16:27
geguileosmcginnis: not really16:27
smcginnisGiven the two, I'd rather see the HA stuff wrapped up.16:27
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geguileosmcginnis:i have most of the code, just need to add some tests and do more manual verification16:28
smcginnisgeguileo: OK, if that's the case and we have at least another core or two that wants to help get this through, I'm all for it.16:28
scottdageguileo: can code 2 things at once, one with each hand.16:28
smcginnisscottda: I wouldn't be surprised. :D16:28
smcginnisAnd code review on a third monitor.16:28
geguileook, I'll get the code ready and we can decide later16:28
smcginnisgeguileo: Cool, thanks.16:29
smcginnisRelated to the patch that kicked this off, if we end up having better tracing I think this and many other places can be reevaluated.16:29
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smcginnisOK, anything else to excessively discuss. :)16:30
viks_hi, joined in late...16:30
viks_I would like to discuss if meeting is open for discussions16:31
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smcginnisviks_: I think the point there was there shouldn't be any changes to v2 at this point.16:32
smcginnisOnly to v3 and microversioned.16:32
viks_smcginnis: I am not adding any microversion to V216:32
viks_all test cases for V2 are passing16:32
smcginnisviks_: I don't know why the unit tests are relevant. Like I said, no changes should be done to v2 at this point.16:33
e0neviks_: but you add unnecessary changes to v2 code16:33
scottdaviks_: The point is that we should decide (as a Cinder team) if we are making any changes to v2 API. Especially if it's just a refactor.16:33
viks_IMO V2 API is not changing16:33
viks_the code it really a big issue16:34
e0nesmcginnis: to be clear: no changes that change v2 API. we can change code and fix bugs as well16:34
viks_if everything is working fine16:34
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smcginnise0ne: Yes, that is a better/more accurate statement.16:34
viks_IMO it is not intriducing any new bugs and not stopping any prev finctionality16:34
smcginnisviks_: You're changing v2 API behavior by adding filtering.16:35
geguileoviks_: the tricky thing about bugs, is that you don't see them comming16:35
scottdaWe don't know of any new bugs. But there is always a chance bugs are introduced when you change code...16:35
smcginnisscottda: +116:35
geguileoviks_: so if you are making changes to the code, even a simple refactor, you may be inadvertedly introducing bugs16:35
viks_that is why we have unit tests and test cases16:35
e0nescottda: +116:35
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geguileoviks_: and in a perfect world we would catch everything there16:35
geguileobut we know we don't16:36
scottdaviks_: Please look at launchpad for a list of bugs that exist, even though unit tests passed.16:36
smcginnisscottda: +100016:36
geguileoso that's why we prefer not to touch v2 api at all16:36
geguileowhenever it's possible16:36
viks_the same code got +2 previouly...16:36
geguileoviks_: but you should be able to introduce the feature just touching v3 api, right?16:36
e0neviks_: our code is not ideal16:36
smcginnisviks_: I think if you remove the v2 changes, the rest should be better. I haven't reviewed it, but otherwise the change should be OK.16:36
e0neviks_: there are a lot of things to improve16:36
geguileoviks_: you just need to change the items method in v316:37
e0nesmcginnis, viks_: I'll +2 on it once changes to v2 will be removed16:37
scottdaI will as well16:37
viks_I dont was not about that16:37
viks_I thought I refactored the code for beteerment16:38
viks_if we take a look at volume metadata filtering it is the same16:38
viks_but looks like everyone is against it16:38
smcginnisviks_: Yes, I appreciate that you were trying to make it better. But not sure how many different ways we can say that v2 should not be changed.16:38
erlonviks_: why do you need to refactor that so much?16:38
scottdaviks_: We get that you were refactoring the code to make it better, but we do not wish to change the v2 code for just a refactor16:38
geguileoviks_: if it wasn't old code the refactoring would have been welcomed with open arms16:38
geguileoviks_: but as the saying goes: better the devil you know16:38
e0neviks_: TBH, you've added useless code to v2 like '_get_snapshot_filter_options' method16:39
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scottdaviks_: I humbly suggest that you just remove the v2 code changes, and put them all in v3. We will approve and we'll all be done.16:39
e0neI prefer to do refactoring in a separate patch16:39
viks_I will do it16:39
smcginnisviks_: Thank you.16:39
e0neif somebody wants to save me from merging hell, please, review and
smcginnisAnything else we need to discuss as a group?16:40
scottdae0ne: I feel your pain.16:40
e0nescottda: :)16:41
smcginnisOh, I also wanted to point out the non-client library freeze will come up quick after the holiday break.16:41
scottdaeharney: Are you around?16:41
smcginnisIf there's anything we need in os-brick, we better get that through quickly.16:41
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hemnasmcginnis, so please review brick patches :)16:41
smcginnishemna: ;)16:41
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scottdaeharney: You'd already +2'd "replace AssertDictMatch". So I was waiting for you to look again..16:41
eharneysure, will do16:42
* e0ne will review os-brick patches tomorrow as a top priority16:42
smcginnishemna: Did you already bring your kids to school? Are you across the street or something? :)16:42
hemnayah brought my kiddo to school and got back :)16:42
scottdaeharney: Same with the v2/v3 cinderclient refactor, I guess.16:42
smcginnisYou're quick!16:42
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smcginnisOK, anything else worth discussing in the meeting? Or should we move along?16:43
e0nescottda, eharney: for note: I'm going to do few more patches according to v1-v3 api support later16:43
mtaninoe0ne: Please visit python-brick-cinderclient-ext patch too.16:43
e0neI just don't want to have fun with chain like geguileo does16:43
scottdae0ne: Yeah, that's great. We can remove most of that duplicated code.16:44
scottdas/we can/you can/16:44
smcginnisOK, thanks everyone. Have a good holiday break, if you're having one. :)16:44
e0nescottda: TBH, the current patch doesn't remove a lot of duplicated code. but I'll do it in a next one16:44
smcginnisIf you're not, well, have a good quiet stretch anyway. :)16:44
jungleboyjThanks!  Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone!16:44
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scottdae0ne: Yeah, I get it. But it sets things up for the next series.16:44
smcginnisFestivus for the rest of us.16:45
e0nescottda: yep16:45
scottdaLet's all sing some carols!16:45
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smcginnisThat's a scary thought. :D16:45
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bh526r_#startmeeting gluon18:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Dec 21 18:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is bh526r_. Information about MeetBot at
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bh526r_Hi, everyone18:00
bh526r_#topic Roll Call18:00
krenczewskiHi Bin18:00
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georgkHi bin18:00
bh526r_Hi Kamil18:00
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bh526r_Hi Georg18:00
georgk#info Georg Kunz18:00
bh526r_#info Bin Hu18:00
tomhambleton#info Tom Hambleton18:00
krenczewski#info Kamil Renczewski18:00
bh526r_#info Admin Update18:01
bh526r_#topic Admin Update18:01
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bh526r_#info None18:01
bh526r_#topic Task Lists for Ocata18:01
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bh526r_#topic Status Update18:03
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bh526r_#info 1. Authentication and Access Control18:03
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bh526r_#info Kamal's proposal was approved and merged, and he pushed patch18:03
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tomhambletonNeeds another +2 and workflow18:04
bh526r_#info Original proposal was merged on Dec 15 after our discussion and approval last week18:04
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bh526r_I will take care of it18:05
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bh526r_#info It is under review, and got one +2. Once we have another +2, workflow will start18:06
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bh526r_#info 2. OpenContrail's Mechanism Driver18:06
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krenczewskiI am waiting for some place to host the code. Nachi didn't provide one yet.18:07
bh526r_#info It seems that only Juniper will maintain the code, so it is better to maintain it in Juniper's repo18:07
bh526r_#info Kamil will work internally within Juniper to determine the appropriate code repo18:08
krenczewskiShould I ammend the commit now or it can wait after the repo is chosen?18:08
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bh526r_You can wait after the repo is chosen18:09
bh526r_#info After the repo is chosen, Kamil will revise the to reflect the new repo of the code18:09
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bh526r_#info and the instruction where to fetch the code, change the configuration to make it work with Gluon framework18:10
bh526r_#info Then OPNFV NetReady can also revise its build process to get the code, and build RPM.18:10
bh526r_Does it sound good?18:11
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krenczewskiGood for me18:11
bh526r_Thank you Kamil18:11
bh526r_#info 3. Testing18:11
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bh526r_#info One patch was approved and merged on Dec 15.18:12
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bh526r_#info 2 more patches are under review18:13
bh526r_#info Georg reviewed, edited it and +1'ed it18:14
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bh526r_Does anyone have other opinion?18:14
bh526r_If no other opinion, I suggested to approve it.18:15
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tomhambletonI just did18:15
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bh526r_#info Team approved it, and it is being merged18:18
bh526r_Great and thank you18:18
georgkwe should remove the WIP from the commit message if still possible18:18
bh526r_This is the 2nd one. But Jenkins verified -118:19
bh526r_#info This is the 2nd one. But Jenkins verified -118:19
bh526r_#info So author Jin needs to fix it18:19
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bh526r_#info 4. Shim Layer for Open Daylight18:20
bh526r_#info Niko submitted an original patch18:20
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bh526r_#info Georg submitted a new patch that fixed API adaption, and some other optimizations18:21
bh526r_#info The old patch 407388 needs to be abandoned and replaced with new patch 41301118:22
bh526r_#info Because Georg needs to do some more testings, and more polish the code, we can wait for a little more while and see what Niko says18:23
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bh526r_#info All please continue to review 413011 and give comments if any18:24
bh526r_#info 5. Gluon API Specification18:24
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bh526r_#info There is one +2. All will review it and process it accordingly18:26
bh526r_#info 6. Bug Fixes18:26
bh526r_#info There are 3 bug fix patches18:27
bh526r_#info this was merged on Dec 2018:27
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bh526r_#info Those 2 were merged on Dec 1518:28
bh526r_#info So all 3 bug fix patches were approved and merged18:28
bh526r_#info 7. Devstack integration18:29
bh526r_#info Ian submitted this patch. My understanding is that it is still work in progress18:29
bh526r_#info All are encouraged to review, participate and contribute to this work18:29
bh526r_#info 8. Add Entry Points to our Neutron Plugin18:30
tomhambletonI submitted one yesterday:
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bh526r_Great, thank you Tom18:30
bh526r_#info Ian's work is also still in progress.18:31
bh526r_#info All are encouraged to review, participate and contribute to this work18:31
bh526r_#info 9. New Bug Fix18:31
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bh526r_#info Tom submitted a new bug fix of unhandled etcd read exception yesterday18:32
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bh526r_I just read it, it looks good to me18:33
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bh526r_Any other opinion?18:34
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bh526r_If no other opinion, I suggest to approve it18:35
bh526r_#info Team reviewed it and approved it.18:35
bh526r_I just +2 it18:35
bh526r_It needs another +2 and workflow18:36
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bh526r_#info 10. Nova Enhancement work with Nova team18:37
bh526r_#info Ian is working with Nova on it, and it is a work in progress18:37
bh526r_#info The most recent comments were on Dec 1318:38
bh526r_#topic Next Steps18:39
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bh526r_All please review the patches, and give comments if any so that we can progress steadily18:40
bh526r_#topic AOB18:40
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bh526r_I suggest to cancel our meeting next week Dec 28, and re-convene on Jan 4 in the new year18:41
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bh526r_Any other opinion18:41
tomhambletonSounds good to me.  I will be on vacation next week.18:41
georgkfine with me18:41
bh526r_Enjoy your vacation and have a good time18:41
bh526r_#info All agreed to cancel the meeting next week Dec 28, and we will re-convene on Jan 4 in the new year18:42
bh526r_#info Wish everyone enjoy the holidays and have a good time18:42
bh526r_Anything else to discuss?18:42
georgksame to you18:42
bh526r_if nothing else, we can adjourn18:43
tomhambletonNo, I think we are good.18:43
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bh526r_Great and thank you Tom18:43
bh526r_#info Meeting Adjourned18:43
tomhambletonBye all, have a safe and happy holiday!18:43
krenczewskiThanks, bye18:43
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georgkThanks, bye18:43
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bh526r_Thank you all, and bye all, have a pleasant holiday18:44
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zara_the_lemur__anyone about for the storyboard meeting?18:59
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zara_the_lemur__#startmeeting storyboard19:00
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zara_the_lemur__okay, we're having a meeting this week since we didn't explicitly cancel it, but nobody has anything much to say that I'm aware of19:01
zara_the_lemur__so I propose going straight to open discussion19:01
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zara_the_lemur__and if nobody brings anything up in the next 10 mins, will end the meeting19:01
SotKsounds good to me19:01
zara_the_lemur__#topic Open Discussion19:02
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zara_the_lemur__we're steadily working on the second blogpost, in case anyone was wondering about the status there19:02
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diablo_rojoI will add the lp stuff and then send it over to fungi to look over before we go and post it19:02
diablo_rojozara_the_lemur__, and I were discussion when to actually post it? Before holidays or after?19:03
diablo_rojoOr post it before and promote it after?19:03
diablo_rojoAlso the email to promote ttx's is on my radar still. I will hopefully get that email out today/tomorrow.19:03
zara_the_lemur__I think maybe have it ready before, post and promote after, mainly so that we don't have it looming over us, but no strong preference.19:04
SotKI guess it depends when you reckon it'll be done19:04
SotKI think in general I agree with Zara19:04
diablo_rojoThat sounds good to me. I can get it done and get fungi looking at it before the break19:05
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persiaI like the idea of promoting after.  Too many other messages in other channels and not enough folk paying attention to targeted channels for promotion before19:05
zara_the_lemur__yeah, I think we have consensus there.19:06
SotKcan we bikeshed a proper domain in time for promoting things?19:06
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persiaIs there already an etherpad for that bikeshed?19:07
zara_the_lemur__:D nope, but we can make one. (and is apparently still free if we want to just remove the sotk)19:07
zara_the_lemur__(sorry sotk)19:07
diablo_rojoMake the etherpad :)19:08
diablo_rojoI love this project.19:08
zara_the_lemur__I kept the title general so we could bikeshed on other things blog-related as they came up19:09
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diablo_rojoGood call19:09
persiaThis is why we have formal structured text.19:09
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persiaWhich one are we using for this etherpad?19:09
* persia unasks the joking question19:09
zara_the_lemur__I was going to suggest you make an etherpad for the etherpad19:10
zara_the_lemur__but that works too19:10
zara_the_lemur__other things... I'm steadily reviewing patches, slowly as I'm on holiday and bought a guitar game.19:11
zara_the_lemur__(and SotK volunteered to review tristanC's email ones; this is a reminder since I am a storyboard notifications bot.)19:12
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SotKyeah I will get to that probably tomorrow19:12
zara_the_lemur__ace, I should be around then19:13
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zara_the_lemur__there's nothing else on my radar so poke me if there's anything I've forgotten19:14
SotKwe should fix yesterday's private story bug19:15
zara_the_lemur__oh yeah19:15
zara_the_lemur__I miiight get to that tomorrow19:16
zara_the_lemur__pretty sure I know how to fix it19:16
zara_the_lemur__(well mainly because you said exactly which line was causing the problem)19:16
SotKwoo :)19:16
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zara_the_lemur__for anyone who missed in-channel discussion-- it's a bug that means you can create a private story with no users19:19
zara_the_lemur__effectively rendering it invisible19:19
zara_the_lemur__you have to go to some lengths (actively remove all users)19:19
persiaDoes that bug also manifest as being able to remove all the users from an existing private story, so that it becomes secret?19:19
zara_the_lemur__I suspect so, though I'm not sure; can't remember off the top of my head if the relevant code was just for creating a new story19:20
zara_the_lemur__(and I only tested when creating a new one)19:20
SotKit shouldnt do19:21
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SotKthe relevant code is only in the POST endpoint19:22
zara_the_lemur__^ what he said, then19:22
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zara_the_lemur__(I wanted to give context on it so people don't read 'private stories bug' and worry it leaks sensitive info.)19:24
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zara_the_lemur__I'll end the meeting at half past if nobody else has a discussion point to bring up19:27
zara_the_lemur__thanks, all!19:29
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