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| sridhar_ram | #startmeeting tacker | 05:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 21 05:30:07 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sridhar_ram. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:30 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 05:30 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 05:30 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Roll Call | 05:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 05:30 | |
| tbh | o/ | 05:30 |
| sridhar_ram | who is here for tacker meeting? | 05:30 |
| xuhaiwei_ | o/ | 05:30 |
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| janki | o/ | 05:30 |
| dkushwaha | o/ | 05:31 |
| gongysh | hi | 05:31 |
| sripriya | o/ | 05:31 |
| sridhar_ram | howdy all! | 05:31 |
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| KanagarajM | hi | 05:31 |
| sridhar_ram | #chair tbh sripriya gongysh KanagarajM | 05:31 |
| openstack | Current chairs: KanagarajM gongysh sridhar_ram sripriya tbh | 05:31 |
| sridhar_ram | lets start.. | 05:31 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Agenda | 05:32 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Agenda (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 05:32 | |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Tacker#Meeting_Dec_21st.2C_2016 | 05:32 |
| sridhar_ram | light agenda ...! | 05:32 |
| sridhar_ram | anything else beyond this ? | 05:32 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Annoucements | 05:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Annoucements (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 05:33 | |
| sridhar_ram | I'm thinking to cancel next week's meeting due to holiday week | 05:33 |
| sridhar_ram | anyone have major issues ? | 05:33 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, no, not yet. | 05:34 |
| sridhar_ram | okay... will cancel | 05:34 |
| sripriya | +1 to cancel next week's meeting, since many will be on holidays | 05:34 |
| sridhar_ram | #info No Tacker Weekly meeting on Dec 28th due to holiday week | 05:35 |
| sridhar_ram | however please continue to post patchsets and do code reviews.. | 05:35 |
| sridhar_ram | We have just about 4 weeks to do client release | 05:36 |
| sridhar_ram | so any blueprints with API changes .. please push your client changes first | 05:36 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Ocata Blueprint Status | 05:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Ocata Blueprint Status (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 05:36 | |
| sridhar_ram | #topic NSD update | 05:36 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "NSD update (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 05:36 | |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: dkushwaha: can you guys give an update ? | 05:37 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, tbh already push some patches. | 05:37 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, Currently working in mistral part | 05:37 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, We have outer part like api, db and client changes ready and dkushwaha is working on mistral workflow generator part | 05:38 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, I needed some investigation in mistral side. | 05:38 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: dkushwaha: wonderful.. i like the way you both sequencing your work.. | 05:38 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, I have a question, regarding vnf create, should we call mistral for individual vnfs or call mistrall for the set of vnfs? kindly suggest | 05:39 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: i'd lean todays a single mistral workflow for all VNF creations .. | 05:40 |
| sridhar_ram | s/todays/towards/ | 05:40 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, is the mistral a must for NSD to work? | 05:40 |
| sripriya | gongysh: please refer to the NSD spec for the mistral requirement | 05:41 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: we have taken a conscious decision to embrace a workflow engine | 05:41 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, yes. We are going through mistral workflow | 05:41 |
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| sridhar_ram | gongysh: this is to future proof and leverage the rich mistral workflows out there in the community | 05:42 |
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| gongysh | ok | 05:42 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: to do simple things like send an email / alert after a respawn or auto-scale | 05:43 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, make sence to use single workflow. Thanks. But I am not much sure if mistral do in parallel | 05:43 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: what you mean by "in parallel" | 05:43 |
| KanagarajM | +1 on mistral role with tacker. | 05:43 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, I had asked mistral guy, and waiting for response | 05:44 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: it will be ideal if a mistral dev joins us as a co-contributor | 05:45 |
| sripriya | dkushwaha: isn't that the default behavior unless you provide a dependency between the steps? | 05:45 |
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| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, mistral workflow execute next task after completing of current one IMO | 05:45 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: this can work both ways, parallel should be the default.. but there are times you want the VNFs to come up in specific order .. a dependency will be useful | 05:47 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: did any mistral devs stop by in the summit to help? | 05:47 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: looks it is sequential as per the docs http://docs.openstack.org/developer/mistral/terminology/workflows.html#direct-workflow | 05:48 |
| sridhar_ram | i thought that would speed up / de-risk this BP | 05:48 |
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| sridhar_ram | KanagarajM: curious about HOT template, how does Heat handles multiple OS::Node::Server resources ? do they get created in parallel or sequential ? | 05:49 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, I know mistral core member personally, and will ask him. | 05:49 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: sounds good! | 05:49 |
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| KanagarajM | sridhar_ram, heat would create an dependency graph and travse from leaf nodes | 05:50 |
| KanagarajM | sridhar_ram, and all indepdent leaf nodes would executed in parallel | 05:50 |
| sridhar_ram | KanagarajM: I see.. that's good to know. thanks! | 05:50 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: tbh: thanks for the update.. | 05:50 |
| sridhar_ram | one last on NSD, we need some volunteers (both core and non-core) to review NSD patchset .. | 05:51 |
| KanagarajM | sridhar_ram, i felt mistral gives that graph control to the user, while heat manages by itself | 05:51 |
| sridhar_ram | anyone ? | 05:51 |
| sridhar_ram | KanagarajM: that was my thought too | 05:51 |
| sridhar_ram | KanagarajM: .. i meant, user has control over the sequence | 05:51 |
| KanagarajM | sridhar_ram, yes | 05:51 |
| gongysh | KanagarajM, workflow is an engine. user can do ordering. | 05:52 |
| gongysh | heat do it in its own way. | 05:52 |
| janki | sridhar_ram, I will try to review over the weekend | 05:52 |
| sridhar_ram | janki: thanks! | 05:52 |
| KanagarajM | gongysh, yes ! | 05:52 |
| sridhar_ram | KanagarajM: gongysh: can one of you sign up to review NSD patchsets ? | 05:53 |
| tbh | thanks janki! | 05:53 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, let me cover the NSD patchsets | 05:53 |
| janki | sridhar_ram, tbh wc :) | 05:53 |
| KanagarajM | sridhar_ram, sure. | 05:53 |
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| sridhar_ram | KanagarajM: gongysh: thanks! | 05:53 |
| sridhar_ram | anything else on NSD ? | 05:54 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: tbh: are you planning to add corresponding tacker-horizon changes as well ? | 05:54 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, yup changes are made locally, but facing some issues with existing repo | 05:55 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: okay, thanks | 05:55 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, so will test in different dev env and push those changes too | 05:55 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: sounds good | 05:55 |
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| diga | o/ | 05:55 |
| diga | sorry got late | 05:55 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic API Framework | 05:55 |
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| diga | Hi | 05:55 |
| sridhar_ram | diga: timing couldn't be better | 05:55 |
| sridhar_ram | :) | 05:55 |
| diga | :) | 05:55 |
| diga | yep | 05:56 |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/368511/ | 05:56 |
| sridhar_ram | diga: please give an update to the team | 05:56 |
| diga | yes | 05:56 |
| diga | I had discussion with infra team | 05:56 |
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| diga | ironic team is facing some problem working on pecan + wsme | 05:57 |
| diga | pecan& wsme is not stable support | 05:57 |
| diga | infra team jroll strongly oppose to go with pecan way | 05:58 |
| diga | they are suggesting either go with flask or falcon for future purpose | 05:58 |
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| diga | so I have gone through falcon & flask, I am thinking to go with falcon as it is faster as compare to flask & has strong communuty support & provide good security features | 05:59 |
| sripriya | diga: what exactly do you mean by pecan and wsme is not stable | 05:59 |
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| diga | sripriya: Actually wsme doesn't have stable support which we are going to use for validation | 06:01 |
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| diga | sripriya: pecan is ok, but infra team is saying we should not go with pecan way as they are facing lot of issues in ironic now | 06:01 |
| sripriya | diga: do you mean the package is not maintained consistently with web frameworks? | 06:02 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: biggest problem, according to jroll, wsme is no longer maintained and difficult to get support | 06:02 |
| diga | sridhar_ram: yep | 06:02 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: diga: ok | 06:02 |
| KanagarajM | diga, is falcon already part of global-requirements ? | 06:02 |
| sridhar_ram | Pecan has a different problem of sorts as it is seen has too heavy weight.. pulling in lots of dependencies .. bigger attach surface | 06:02 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: i wonder about the other projects that have already integrated pecan framework such as neutron etc | 06:03 |
| gongysh | FileTypePy VersionUploaded onSize | 06:03 |
| gongysh | WSME-0.8.0-py2-none-any.whl (md5)Python Wheelpy22015-08-25 | 06:03 |
| diga | sripriya: sridhar_ram : yes, infra team is suggesting that means it is already adopted by the community | 06:03 |
| diga | KanagarajM: yes | 06:03 |
| KanagarajM | diga, ok. thanks. | 06:03 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: i'm also interested in seeing the list of openstack projects that switched to Falcon | 06:04 |
| diga | I think we should go with falcon, will update the patch | 06:04 |
| gongysh | falcon-1.1.0-py2.py3-none-any.whl (md5, pgp)Python Wheelpy2.py32016-10-27122KB | 06:04 |
| gongysh | it seems wsme is not updated for a long time. | 06:04 |
| sridhar_ram | my general understanding is Pecan proliferated due to cut & paste off Ironic .. but some sense has prevailed on better light weight alternatives | 06:05 |
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| gongysh | falcon is in active developing. | 06:05 |
| diga | sridhar_ram: sripriya : sure, will send you details on how many projects are now using falcon | 06:05 |
| sridhar_ram | diga: thanks | 06:05 |
| sridhar_ram | See think as well https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Zaqar/pecan-evaluation | 06:05 |
| sripriya | diga: here is a good link explaining some of the performance related metric comparison between pecan and falcon | 06:05 |
| sridhar_ram | again, giving an edge to Falcon | 06:05 |
| diga | sripriya: yeah, gone through it | 06:05 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: i was just pasting that link :-) thanks | 06:05 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: :) | 06:06 |
| sridhar_ram | diga: is it just Falson or it is going to be Falcon + Flask ? | 06:06 |
| sridhar_ram | i've seen cases in my earlier work using CherryPy + Flask | 06:06 |
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| diga | sridhar_ram: it will be just falcon | 06:06 |
| sridhar_ram | diga: okay | 06:06 |
| sripriya | KanagarajM: here is the global requirements https://github.com/openstack/requirements/blob/master/global-requirements.txt#L54 | 06:07 |
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| diga | sridhar_ram: falcon is light weight, has less dependancies also | 06:07 |
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| sridhar_ram | diga: team: I also found this thread with subject "let's just use flask" (by Jay Pipes)... | 06:08 |
| s3wong | sorry, was just reminded that we have a meeting today... | 06:08 |
| sridhar_ram | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2016-June/097808.html | 06:08 |
| diga | sripriya: sridhar_ram : will update the PS today by considering all these things | 06:08 |
| sridhar_ram | I haven't gone through it full | 06:08 |
| sridhar_ram | *fully | 06:08 |
| diga | sridhar_ram: okay | 06:08 |
| diga | will go through it | 06:08 |
| KanagarajM | sridhar_ram, thanks | 06:08 |
| sridhar_ram | diga: thanks.. ! | 06:08 |
| sridhar_ram | KanagarajM: urw! | 06:08 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: hi there! | 06:09 |
| diga | sridhar_ram: welcome! | 06:09 |
| KanagarajM | sridhar_ram, :) | 06:09 |
| sridhar_ram | diga: I guess the branch name will be "falcon-api-framework" | 06:09 |
| KanagarajM | sripriya, thanks. | 06:09 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: thanks for the link | 06:09 |
| KanagarajM | i see the bench marking https://falconframework.org/#Metrics | 06:09 |
| diga | sridhar_ram: yeah | 06:10 |
| sridhar_ram | another question.. | 06:10 |
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| sridhar_ram | are we going to go with a v2 version of the API with new Falcon and leave the current wsgi serving v1 ? | 06:11 |
| diga | sridhar_ram: will propose "falcon-api-framework" now but will update the PS today, & need to finalize it by End of this week | 06:11 |
| diga | sridhar_ram: I suggest, we should go with v2 because its complete API refactoring | 06:11 |
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| sridhar_ram | diga: +1 | 06:11 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, I think we should bump up the version. | 06:11 |
| sridhar_ram | others: thoughts ? this is a big decision | 06:12 |
| dkushwaha | diga, +1 | 06:12 |
| gongysh | but do we need to do back compatible? | 06:12 |
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| sripriya | sridhar_ram: are we changing the way the API interactions are done by users? | 06:12 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: the purpose of introducing the framework is to have minimal impact on the API itself right? | 06:12 |
| KanagarajM | diga, sridhar_ram does falcon not conflict with existing framework , if we plan to use falcon in addition ? | 06:12 |
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| diga | sripriya: No, endpoint & user interaction will remain same | 06:13 |
| sripriya | diga: then why should we bump the version? | 06:13 |
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| sridhar_ram | that is an unknown to me, will be happy if the API stays the same after the Falcon switchover.. but i'm skeptical | 06:13 |
| diga | sripriya: we may need to do some changes in the user interaction, we may not know | 06:14 |
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| KanagarajM | sripriya, yes, we should not change the version for changing the api framework. | 06:14 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: diga: IMO it should not change | 06:14 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, i will suggest to have new api version with standard return codes | 06:14 |
| diga | I am going through falcon now, will put my understanding in the PS so that we can decide on that | 06:14 |
| gongysh | diga, it we don't change much, maybe we just change it into 1.1 to improve some response status code. | 06:14 |
| s3wong | yeah, normally we change endpoint (v2/...) if we bump version | 06:14 |
| sridhar_ram | again, i agree in principal.. but the devil is in the detail that only when diga gets in we will know | 06:15 |
| diga | gongysh: yes, better approach | 06:15 |
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| sridhar_ram | fair enough, lets diga do his homework.. but the preference is no version bump, may be a minor bump to 1.1 and the goal is to switch over | 06:16 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: moving to a new framework should not change the way the user interacts with the API, even if it does, it is responsibility of the framework to handle such usecases | 06:16 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: +1 | 06:16 |
| diga | sure | 06:16 |
| diga | sripriya: yes | 06:16 |
| sridhar_ram | sripriya: that is a noble goal ... | 06:16 |
| KanagarajM | sripriya, +1 yes ! | 06:16 |
| sridhar_ram | lets stick to it | 06:17 |
| diga | +1 | 06:17 |
| s3wong | +1 | 06:17 |
| KanagarajM | diga, does falcon support swagger ? | 06:17 |
| diga | KanagarajM: Not sure, I will have to check | 06:17 |
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| sridhar_ram | KanagarajM: https://pypi.python.org/pypi/falcon-swagger | 06:17 |
| KanagarajM | diga, i think OpenStack community is thinking of swagger integration in API. so it would be better choice if falcon gives swagger support. | 06:18 |
| diga | sridhar_ram: :) thanks | 06:18 |
| tbh | KanagarajM, no direct support in falcon, but can use falcon-swagger package for that | 06:18 |
| KanagarajM | sridhar_ram, tbh thx :) | 06:18 |
| KanagarajM | sounds better ! | 06:18 |
| gongysh | I am looking forward to new API and swagger. | 06:19 |
| sridhar_ram | +1 | 06:19 |
| diga | gongysh: +1 Sure | 06:19 |
| sridhar_ram | time to ditch more archaic neutron code ;-) | 06:19 |
| diga | :) | 06:19 |
| sridhar_ram | no offense to neutron | 06:19 |
| sridhar_ram | diga: as you get more clarity, I'd also need to estimate the effort / rough date of completion for release planning purposes | 06:20 |
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| diga | sridhar_ram: Sure | 06:20 |
| diga | sridhar_ram: I will update PS today EOD, we can discuss in the evening | 06:21 |
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| sridhar_ram | diga: sounds good | 06:21 |
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| sridhar_ram | anything else on this subject ? | 06:21 |
| diga | that's all from my side | 06:21 |
| sridhar_ram | diga: thanks for taking this forward !! | 06:21 |
| gongysh | we also need a configure opt to switch between wsgi and falcon. | 06:21 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: i was thinking the same, a safety backup switch | 06:22 |
| gongysh | I don't think we need an independent branch for this feature. | 06:22 |
| gongysh | let's us do it in the master branch. | 06:22 |
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| sridhar_ram | gongysh: no, this is a high risk.. we are not sure about the release window when we can get this in and also most project using a separate feature branch for api-framework changes | 06:23 |
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| diga_ | sorry got disconnected | 06:24 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, our task is easier than neutron. | 06:24 |
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| sridhar_ram | gongysh: well.. I'd be happier if this turns out into an easy task | 06:25 |
| sridhar_ram | but let's take a conservative approach | 06:25 |
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| * sridhar_ram notes just few mins left... | 06:26 | |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Open Discussion | 06:26 |
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| xuhaiwei_ | sridhar_ram, do we need to discuss the senlin integration part any more? | 06:26 |
| sridhar_ram | KanagarajM: quick question on the TOSCA auto-scaling fix for nested templates | 06:26 |
| sridhar_ram | KanagarajM: is the fix for specific VDU target going to merge soon ? | 06:27 |
| KanagarajM | sridhar_ram, i am following up with sehdev and once its merged, i would start to migrate the current code to use | 06:27 |
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| sridhar_ram | xuhaiwei_: did you had a chance to update the couple of questions we have in the meeting .. manual scaling and one more that i couldn't remember | 06:27 |
| KanagarajM | sridhar_ram, hoping things shuld start by next week ! | 06:28 |
| gongysh | KanagarajM, what is sehdev doing? | 06:28 |
| sridhar_ram | KanagarajM: thanks | 06:28 |
| KanagarajM | gongysh, enabling the nested template in ht | 06:28 |
| xuhaiwei_ | sridhar_ram: In fact, I have already updated the spec last week https://review.openstack.org/#/c/352943/ | 06:28 |
| sridhar_ram | We can circle back on tacker-senlin in the next meeting.. sorry, we are out of time today | 06:28 |
| sridhar_ram | xuhaiwei_: oh, will review.. i think it is close IMO | 06:29 |
| sridhar_ram | cores: please review / sign off tacker-senlin | 06:29 |
| xuhaiwei_ | sridhar_ram: thanks | 06:29 |
| sridhar_ram | KanagarajM: specifically you! | 06:29 |
| sripriya | sridhar_ram: ack | 06:29 |
| sridhar_ram | Alright folks - times up | 06:29 |
| sridhar_ram | Happy newyear and merry christmas ! | 06:29 |
| KanagarajM | sridhar_ram, sure. | 06:29 |
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| sridhar_ram | talk to you all next year :) | 06:29 |
| sripriya | happy holidays everyone | 06:29 |
| sridhar_ram | #endmeeting | 06:30 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 21 06:30:06 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2016/tacker.2016-12-21-05.30.html | 06:30 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2016/tacker.2016-12-21-05.30.txt | 06:30 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2016/tacker.2016-12-21-05.30.log.html | 06:30 |
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| oneswig | #startmeeting scientific_wg | 09:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 21 09:00:50 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 09:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: scientific_wg)" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_wg' | 09:00 |
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| oneswig | hello world ... | 09:01 |
| priteau | Good morning! | 09:01 |
| oneswig | Hi priteau! | 09:01 |
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| oneswig | People really are winding down for Christmas, I guess :-) | 09:01 |
| oneswig | #link agenda for today is https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_working_group#IRC_Meeting_December_21st_2016 | 09:02 |
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| oneswig | I am at Bristol Parkway and have a train to catch in about 30 minutes, so need to give half apologies myself! | 09:02 |
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| b1airo | o/ | 09:03 |
| oneswig | #chair b1airo | 09:03 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo oneswig | 09:03 |
| oneswig | Hi b1airo | 09:03 |
| oneswig | Just us and priteau so far... | 09:03 |
| b1airo | bit tardy sorry - at the beach with the family and the usual schedule has gone out the window | 09:03 |
| priteau | Evening blair | 09:03 |
| oneswig | You're at the beach right now? | 09:03 |
| priteau | Lucky you! | 09:03 |
| b1airo | hi priteau, oneswig | 09:04 |
| b1airo | yep! | 09:04 |
| oneswig | That's so Australian | 09:04 |
| oneswig | respect :-) | 09:04 |
| b1airo | well, it's 80m or so away | 09:04 |
| b1airo | i'll grill you a prawn | 09:04 |
| daveholland | I'm sure you could get wifi that far | 09:04 |
| oneswig | Hi daveholland | 09:04 |
| daveholland | hi, only grey skies here | 09:05 |
| oneswig | #topic Events and CFPs | 09:05 |
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| b1airo | daveholland, with the property values down here i'm sure you can get fibre if you want to pay! | 09:05 |
| oneswig | Does everyone have the agenda with the links in it? | 09:06 |
| oneswig | 3 events arrived in the in-tray this week - OpenStack Boston, Red Hat (also in Boston) and OpenFabrics Summit (in Austin) | 09:06 |
| verdurin | Morning. | 09:06 |
| oneswig | Hi verdurin | 09:06 |
| oneswig | just getting going | 09:06 |
| b1airo | i'll be back in 5, last administration of dr suess for the day is required... | 09:07 |
| oneswig | to thing 1 or thing 2? | 09:07 |
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| oneswig | The OpenFabrics workshop looked interesting because virtualisation and OFA is specifically called out as a topic for discussion | 09:08 |
| oneswig | And I believe it coincides with a Dell community event, for the Dell customers out there... | 09:08 |
| verdurin | oneswig: Is the Red Hat event their usual Summit? | 09:08 |
| oneswig | I think so. Not been - have you? | 09:09 |
| verdurin | No. | 09:09 |
| priteau | first time it is colocated with the OpenStack Summit though? | 09:09 |
| oneswig | Presumably not a coincidence... good move on their part. Ironically I may be able to attend the RH summit but not the OpenStack one | 09:10 |
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| oneswig | Any other incoming events to be aware of? | 09:11 |
| verdurin | FOSDEM? | 09:11 |
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| oneswig | Aha, good point, glad you mentioned it! | 09:11 |
| verdurin | There's usually quite a lot of OpenStack-related stuff | 09:12 |
| oneswig | As it happens (clueless me) one of my team has a paper accepted at the postgres conference coincident with FOSDEM - on monitoring with Monasca and postgres | 09:12 |
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| oneswig | OK lets move on | 09:13 |
| oneswig | #topic GPUs and virtualisation | 09:13 |
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| oneswig | #link heres what was discussed last week http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_wg/2016/scientific_wg.2016-12-13-21.02.log.html | 09:14 |
| oneswig | I think b1airo was talking about summarising in an etherpad | 09:15 |
| b1airo | back! (oneswig: one fish, two fish ... - delivered to thing 1) | 09:15 |
| oneswig | Unfortunately powerd I believe is in India | 09:15 |
| oneswig | aha - any luck on that etherpad b1airo? | 09:15 |
| b1airo | india? for work? | 09:15 |
| oneswig | yes - conference - Indian SC (can't remember the name) | 09:16 |
| b1airo | yeah let me find it again, had to kill my browser earlier... | 09:16 |
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| b1airo | oh have we lost oneswig ? | 09:21 |
| oneswig | ah, still here, but about to head off - waiting for a train | 09:21 |
| b1airo | looks like the channel topic changed, perhaps meetbot has headed off for xmas?? | 09:22 |
| oneswig | good point | 09:23 |
| oneswig | #topic GPUs and virtualisation | 09:23 |
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| oneswig | any luck b1airo? | 09:23 |
| b1airo | #link: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/scientific-wg-gpu-config-guide | 09:23 |
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| oneswig | Thanks b1airo looks handy, will study | 09:25 |
| b1airo | it's very much still WIP | 09:25 |
| oneswig | why blacklist nouveau? | 09:26 |
| b1airo | i only managed 5 mins earlier | 09:26 |
| oneswig | not familiar with it... | 09:26 |
| b1airo | if nouveau (or anything else, e.g., nvidia drivers) bind to the device in the hypervisor then passthrough will appear to work but the device will not work in the guest | 09:27 |
| oneswig | Do you use the same trick with glance image attributes or is it tied to flavors and host aggregates? | 09:27 |
| b1airo | nouveau is an "Accelerated Open Source driver for nVidia cards" | 09:27 |
| oneswig | I'm out of time - have to catch my train - apologies | 09:28 |
| b1airo | flavors and aggregates | 09:28 |
| b1airo | no worries oneswig | 09:28 |
| oneswig | thanks all, have a good Christmas - barbecued or not! | 09:28 |
| b1airo | merry xmas, happy new year! | 09:28 |
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| b1airo | anyone else still paying attention? we figured things would be pretty quiet to-day/night | 09:29 |
| priteau | Happy holidays onovy | 09:29 |
| priteau | Oops, too late | 09:29 |
| b1airo | :-) | 09:29 |
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| priteau | b1airo: I will review your etherpad to check how the scheduler could be configured to allow additional instances to use CPU resources | 09:30 |
| priteau | but nothing else to contribute on the topic right nowo | 09:32 |
| b1airo | priteau, great - i haven't really added anything on that yet, might be better to wait until the new year when the content settles a bit | 09:32 |
| b1airo | i think you already understand the problem though | 09:32 |
| priteau | I see you've got some scheduler details in there already (PciPassthroughFilter) | 09:34 |
| verdurin | I'm still here, but only just back from holiday, so not much new to add | 09:34 |
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| b1airo | thanks verdurin | 09:35 |
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| b1airo | what do folks think would be useful in terms of docs re. GPUs in/with OpenStack ? | 09:36 |
| priteau | Are there existing docs covering GPUs specifically already, or is it only generally about PCI passthrough? | 09:37 |
| b1airo | just PCI passthrough AFAIK | 09:38 |
| verdurin | b1airo: we need docs from both operators' and users' points of view (maybe stating the obvious) | 09:38 |
| b1airo | from there you're into blogs (if lucky) and list posts | 09:38 |
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| b1airo | verdurin, interesting - i hadn't really thought about specific user docs before | 09:39 |
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| verdurin | b1airo: might not actually be necessary, but I think a full description of how to run a GPU application on OpenStack would be worthwhile | 09:40 |
| priteau | yeah a full guide with usage example would be helpful | 09:40 |
| verdurin | priteau: exactly | 09:41 |
| b1airo | i'm sure you're right, and it probably fits in nicely with the GPU compute and graphics acceleration possibilities with e.g. PCI passthrough | 09:44 |
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| b1airo | #topic AOB (any other business) | 09:45 |
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| b1airo | any other news or shall we wrap it up for now? | 09:45 |
| verdurin | Not from me. | 09:46 |
| b1airo | oneswig, martial and i need to catch up on boston organisation and report back to the group | 09:46 |
| priteau | Nothing from me | 09:46 |
| b1airo | we need to be proposing sessions very soon | 09:46 |
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| b1airo | alright, may as well put this to bed (and myself :-) ) | 09:49 |
| b1airo | #endmeeting | 09:50 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 21 09:50:04 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:50 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_wg/2016/scientific_wg.2016-12-21-09.00.html | 09:50 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_wg/2016/scientific_wg.2016-12-21-09.00.txt | 09:50 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_wg/2016/scientific_wg.2016-12-21-09.00.log.html | 09:50 |
| priteau | Merry Christmas on the beach b1airo | 09:50 |
| verdurin | Bye, Happy Christmas. | 09:50 |
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| priteau | Are you planning to have a meeting next week? I won't be able to join | 09:51 |
| priteau | Nor the first one of 2017 | 09:51 |
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| b1airo | priteau, no i won't be around next week | 09:52 |
| b1airo | i think we'll skip the next two weeks, but we'll confirm on-list | 09:52 |
| priteau | Sounds good | 09:52 |
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| priteau | Have a great holiday | 09:52 |
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| b1airo | thanks priteau, likewise! | 09:54 |
| priteau | Thanks! | 09:54 |
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| joehuang | hello | 13:00 |
| joehuang | #startmeeting tricircle | 13:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 21 13:01:06 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is joehuang. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tricircle)" | 13:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tricircle' | 13:01 |
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| joehuang | #topic rollcall | 13:01 |
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| liukun | #info liukun | 13:01 |
| joehuang | #info joehuang | 13:01 |
| JunSik | Hello | 13:01 |
| dongfeng01 | #info dongfeng | 13:01 |
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| yinxiulin | #info xiulin | 13:01 |
| WuCheng | #info Wucheng | 13:01 |
| Yipei | #info Yipei | 13:01 |
| JunSik | #info JunSik | 13:01 |
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| zhiyuan | #info zhiyuan | 13:02 |
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| joehuang | #topic VxLAN L2 networking/L3 DVR issue | 13:02 |
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| liuzeyu | #info liuzyu | 13:03 |
| joehuang | last week we discussed VxLAN network across Neutron | 13:03 |
| joehuang | and one action is to contact Neutron team how we can contribute to the VTEP in port | 13:04 |
| joehuang | but not received response yet | 13:04 |
| joehuang | and also not see any new progress in this topic recently | 13:04 |
| joehuang | so I discussed with Zhiyuan offline to find out whether we can have some way to address this issue if no improvement from Neutron | 13:05 |
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| joehuang | Zhiyuan, could you share the idea in short | 13:05 |
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| zhiyuan | ok, give me some time to type :) | 13:07 |
| joehuang | fine | 13:07 |
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| zhiyuan | let's say we have one vm port1 created in pod1 and one vm port2 created in pod2, to connect port1 and port2, we create a shadow port for port1 in pod2 and also a shadow agent in pod2, so the ovs agents in pod2 will get information of shadow port1 and the VTEP information from the shadow agent, and create the VxLAN tunnel to pod1 | 13:12 |
| zhiyuan | the shadow agent has the same host ip as the agent port1 in pod1 is bound to | 13:12 |
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| joehuang | yes, and the shadow agent will not work as RPC server | 13:14 |
| joehuang | so no RPC message will be sent to the shadow agent | 13:14 |
| joehuang | but L2 population will carry all fdb entry including the shadow port to local agents | 13:14 |
| joehuang | this is the rough idea | 13:15 |
| joehuang | at the same time | 13:15 |
| zhiyuan | the intuition is that we "cheat" local Neutron server in the other pod with shadow ports and shadow agents information, to let local Neutron server consider the remote ports as local ones | 13:15 |
| Yipei | are all the vm ports in one pod share the same agent? | 13:15 |
| joehuang | to Yipei, this mode could work as L2GW mode | 13:15 |
| joehuang | i.e, all shadow ports are located in one shadow L2GW agent | 13:16 |
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| Yipei | ok, i see | 13:16 |
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| zhiyuan | otherwise, each agent in one pod has shadow agents in other pods, if shared VxLAN networking is needed in those pods | 13:17 |
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| joehuang | but if we want tunneling from compute node to compute node, then they are on different shadow agents just like the virtual site | 13:17 |
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| joehuang | to Zhiyuan, this is the CN <-> CN mode | 13:17 |
| zhiyuan | yes | 13:18 |
| joehuang | if only one shadow agents for one pod, then it's CN(s) -> L2GW mode | 13:18 |
| joehuang | And one more point | 13:18 |
| joehuang | I also think that the DVR mac issue(can't recogized by the other OpenStack) can also be addressed by this mode | 13:19 |
| joehuang | i.e, introduce shadow DVR mac | 13:19 |
| joehuang | as shadow agent | 13:20 |
| joehuang | to Junsik, do you think it's feasible? | 13:20 |
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| joehuang | hello, Junsik? | 13:22 |
| JunSik | Yes, I think so. | 13:22 |
| joehuang | and others' thought? | 13:23 |
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| joehuang | ok | 13:25 |
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| joehuang | any questions | 13:25 |
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| joehuang | This is one interesting direction we can move, and it's fully decoupled from Neutron implementation | 13:27 |
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| joehuang | and we can work on this direction and keep eye on the Neutron's improvement at the same time | 13:28 |
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| zhiyuan-cai | yes, need to test if this solution works | 13:29 |
| joehuang | #info one idea is to use shade ports/shadow agents to address VxLAN network across Neutron | 13:29 |
| joehuang | #info poc test is needed to see if it's feasible | 13:29 |
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| joehuang | great! | 13:30 |
| joehuang | who are interested in the poc test of this idea? | 13:31 |
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| joehuang | I think for the poc can just hard code to create shadow ports/agents in local neutron plugin | 13:32 |
| joehuang | and to see if it works | 13:32 |
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| zhiyuan-cai | maybe I have a try | 13:33 |
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| joehuang | thanks | 13:34 |
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| joehuang | #topic Ocata feature development review | 13:34 |
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| joehuang | hello, let's have a short review on the feature development, please describe in short thanks, and discuss as needed | 13:35 |
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| joehuang | for me, the scripts for multi-region gate/check test job is almost ready | 13:36 |
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| dongfeng01 | for me, 1) go on with the table clean work and spec file. 2) write the release note of resource routing api. | 13:36 |
| joehuang | need to submit patch and wait for review/approvement from 3 repositories :) | 13:36 |
| joehuang | to Dongfeng, yes saw and reviewed your patches | 13:37 |
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| dongfeng01 | some questions exist in the inline comments for each patch, after they are fixed I will update the patch. | 13:40 |
| zhiyuan-cai | 1) spec for bridge network combination has been merged 2) resource deletion, manual installation guide, got +2 3) implementation of bridge network combination, dvr support, under review | 13:40 |
| joehuang | there are lots of patches in the review queue | 13:40 |
| zhiyuan-cai | 4) recently i also submit the patch for xjob reliability improvement | 13:41 |
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| joehuang | to Zhiyuan, great job, you have submitted so many patches | 13:41 |
| Yipei | for lbaas, i already understand how neutron-lbaas works with agent, but still have some problem with octavia. plan to install tricircle with octavia, test whether it works to add members from other pods, and try to understand how octavia works | 13:41 |
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| joehuang | to Yipei, very good | 13:41 |
| yinxiulin | I am doing port resource update | 13:41 |
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| joehuang | for members from other pods, may only IPs are applicable, using port may not work unless we have shadow ports there | 13:42 |
| Yipei | oh, yes | 13:43 |
| joehuang | to Xiulin, good, look forward to your new patch | 13:43 |
| yinxiulin | ok | 13:43 |
| joehuang | to xiulin, please confirm that the fields which are update-able for network/subnet/port compared to Neutron API document | 13:44 |
| yinxiulin | i will | 13:45 |
| joehuang | there are also some committer which are not able to attend the meeting | 13:45 |
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| joehuang | so please review the patches by searching https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tricircle | 13:47 |
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| joehuang | sorry /s which who | 13:47 |
| joehuang | #topic open discussion | 13:48 |
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| joehuang | any other topics? | 13:48 |
| zhiyuan-cai | no from me | 13:49 |
| dongfeng01 | no for me | 13:49 |
| joehuang | Christmas and New year is approching | 13:49 |
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| JunSik | no | 13:49 |
| dongfeng01 | ^_^ | 13:49 |
| joehuang | so wish all of us have a pleasant holiday | 13:50 |
| zhiyuan-cai | thanks joe | 13:50 |
| joehuang | and a better 2017 | 13:50 |
| joehuang | and wish Tricircle can be used in production in 2017 | 13:51 |
| JunSik | :D | 13:51 |
| dongfeng01 | :) | 13:51 |
| zhiyuan-cai | :) | 13:51 |
| yinxiulin | :) | 13:51 |
| joehuang | good, if no more topic, let's conclude the meeting | 13:51 |
| joehuang | thank you for attending the meeting | 13:51 |
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| joehuang | #endmeeting | 13:52 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 13:52 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 21 13:52:15 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:52 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-12-21-13.01.html | 13:52 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-12-21-13.01.txt | 13:52 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2016/tricircle.2016-12-21-13.01.log.html | 13:52 |
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| smcginnis | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 21 16:00:01 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Agenda: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderMeetings | 16:00 |
| e0ne | hi | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Ping: dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind jbernard _alastor_ bluex patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino yuriy_n17 karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor baumann rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell stevemar watanabe.isao,tommylikehu mdovgal ildikov | 16:00 |
| xyang1 | hi | 16:00 |
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| eharney | hi | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | wxy viks ketonne | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | Hello! | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | Hey everyone | 16:00 |
| erlon | hey | 16:00 |
| mtanino | hello | 16:00 |
| scottda | hi | 16:00 |
| wxy| | hello | 16:00 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | Hello :) | 16:00 |
| patrickeast | hey | 16:00 |
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| mdovgal | hi | 16:01 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Announcements | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:01 | |
| smcginnis | The usual one: | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking Review focus | 16:01 |
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| smcginnis | I think we've got some progress there on our priorities, but could always use more reviews. | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | #info Need to register for the PTG if you have not already done so | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | PTG is coming up quick. Please register if you can. | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | #link http://www.openstack.org/ptg PTG info and registration | 16:02 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | smcginnis: +1 | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | #info Summit call for presentations is open | 16:03 |
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| smcginnis | Summit won't be too far behind. The call for presentations is open for that. | 16:03 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Cinder representation is getting better but still less than a typical midcycle. | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | Would be great to have some good storage related sessions. | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | :( | 16:03 |
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| smcginnis | Hopefully folks are just waiting on (and getting) approval to go. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/call-for-presentations/ Summit CFP | 16:04 |
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| smcginnis | And finally, | 16:04 |
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| smcginnis | #info Need to start planning for the PTG | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | Started an etherpad to start planning topics to cover. | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ATL-cinder-ptg-planning PTG topic planning | 16:04 |
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| smcginnis | Please add any topics you would like discussed at the PTG to the etherpad. | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | We will prioritize and figure out schedule closer to the event. | 16:05 |
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| dulek | smcginnis: We can fill the list with the usual ones. | 16:05 |
| dulek | Like multiattach, A/A, driver deadlines. :D | 16:05 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | dulek: Hah, yep. Could probably copy paste half of the last etherpad into this one. ;) | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: :-) | 16:06 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Bingo? | 16:06 |
| erlon | diablo_rojo_phon: hummm, the bingo is a must! | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | diablo_rojo_phon: ;) | 16:06 |
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| scottda | diablo_rojo_phon: You're in charge of prizes | 16:06 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | erlon: read my mind :) | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | scottda: +1 | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | And the cava | 16:06 |
| erlon | diablo_rojo_phon: :) | 16:06 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | scottda: handles of fireball | 16:06 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | patrickeast brought the Cava last time | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | OK, that's all I had for announcements. Any last minute topics, or should I just open it up for general discussion? | 16:07 |
| e0ne | let's the holly-war begin :) | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | #topic Open Discussion | 16:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:08 | |
| smcginnis | Bikeshedding time? :) | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: When will our next meeting be? :-) | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | Since I forgot to ask last time. | 16:08 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Good point, I was going to bring that up before we ended. | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | :-) | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | I got your back this time. | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | I will be around next Wednesday, but I'm sure most will be busy and there won't be much going on. | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | Any objections if we skip next week and pick up in January? | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | I'll take that as a no. :) | 16:09 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: works for me | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | *crickets* | 16:09 |
| scottda | ship it | 16:10 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Works for me :) | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | #info No meeting next week, will start again in January. | 16:10 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: will you send announcement to the ML? | 16:10 |
| erlon | same for me | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Yes, I'll do that after the meeting. | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | And maybe a reminder early next week if I think of it. ;) | 16:10 |
| hemna | I don't think many folks are going to be around next week | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | Probably not. | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | Yeah, probably not. | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | We did discuss this patch a little: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/399003/ | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | Too much, IMO. | 16:11 |
| hemna | heh | 16:11 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:11 |
| hemna | that | 16:11 |
| mdovgal | okey) let's discuss it again) | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | I see some value in it if something goes wrong and an admin is tring to figure out what happened. | 16:11 |
| scottda | geguileo: hemna Any reason we shouldn't merge that patch? You've the -1's | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | geguileo and hemna: I didn't want to approve it while you both had a -1 on there. | 16:12 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: actually, not 'when' but 'where': on nova's side or cinder's side | 16:12 |
| * geguileo looking | 16:12 | |
| hemna | I just don't see it as being as useful as the assertion in the bug | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: True | 16:12 |
| hemna | it really isn't | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Without it there's no breadcrumb to figure out what happened. | 16:12 |
| hemna | if you want useful information for debugging an actual attachment problem, then you enable trace logging | 16:12 |
| hemna | that is actually useful information | 16:12 |
| hemna | which is the connector, and initiator, and connection_info | 16:13 |
| erlon | do a votint, that only seems personal preferences :) | 16:13 |
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| geguileo | or at least debug level logging | 16:13 |
| geguileo | to me info level seems excesive | 16:13 |
| hemna | it's not a big deal, but that information isn't going to really be useful for a failed attach | 16:13 |
| e0ne | geguileo, hemna: that's the problem: all useful logs are available only in debug mode:( | 16:14 |
| hemna | yup | 16:14 |
| hemna | so make the @trace for attaches info then | 16:14 |
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| e0ne | hemna: it helps to understand that cinder works good | 16:14 |
| hemna | that would be useful | 16:14 |
| geguileo | e0ne: but that's just changing the happy path | 16:14 |
| geguileo | not the one where you get an error | 16:14 |
| e0ne | hemna: good point | 16:14 |
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| hemna | logging something like what he's doing in that patch isn't useful. "hey I'm attaching a volume to instance uuid." | 16:15 |
| hemna | is basically all that log is | 16:15 |
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| jungleboyj | It doesn't really hurt anything to do that, but I suppose it ends up being more noise. | 16:16 |
| geguileo | As I mentioned in the patch, I don't think that's the right thing to do (moreover if we are going to add dynamic log changing soon) | 16:16 |
| hemna | jungleboyj, that's all it is, noise | 16:16 |
| jungleboyj | hemna: Fair enough. | 16:16 |
| hemna | anyway, I can +A it, but it's just useless IMHO | 16:17 |
| geguileo | but since we don't seem to agree on that and there are some cores who want it I think we should either vote or merge it since it has 3 +2 | 16:17 |
| hemna | if you really want useful logging for attaches, you have attach process trace logging and make it always on | 16:17 |
| e0ne | hemna: I don't think it's useless. I agree that is's a partial fix | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: My thoughts too. | 16:18 |
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| hemna | ok it's done | 16:18 |
| hemna | next | 16:18 |
| hemna | +A'd it | 16:18 |
| e0ne | hemna: do you propose to add tracing logs for info lavel? | 16:18 |
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| hemna | an actual attach failure isn't going to use that information. | 16:18 |
| e0ne | hemna: +1. usually it's on the nova's side | 16:19 |
| smcginnis | Now that we've got the really important things figured out.. :D | 16:19 |
| mdovgal | hemna, thx | 16:19 |
| hemna | the useful information is the connector, connection_info | 16:19 |
| hemna | and the exceptions | 16:19 |
| hemna | what we should have is the ability to add certain workflow logging enabled | 16:20 |
| hemna | and be able to turn that on/off on the fly. | 16:20 |
| hemna | like....I want to debug attaches only...enable trace logging for attaches only. | 16:20 |
| hemna | and then turn it back off | 16:20 |
| hemna | w/o bouncing Cinder | 16:20 |
| hemna | that would be useful. | 16:21 |
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| hemna | ok I'll shut up now :) | 16:21 |
| geguileo | hemna: that's what the dynamic logging change will allow, right? | 16:21 |
| hemna | well, as a whole yah | 16:21 |
| hemna | unless it allows for targeted workflows | 16:21 |
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| hemna | you don't care about volume creation debugging, but attaches, for example | 16:21 |
| e0ne | hemna: the problem is that issue could be mot permanent and when debug is enabled we should wait for a while | 16:22 |
| xyang2 | hemna, geguileo: who is working on dynamic logging? Is there a spec | 16:22 |
| e0ne | hemna: it's a good topic to discuss at PTG | 16:22 |
| geguileo | e0ne: but that's the price to not have noise when everything is running fine | 16:22 |
| hemna | e0ne, +1 | 16:22 |
| hemna | geguileo, yah | 16:22 |
| geguileo | xyang2: there's a spec and I have some code (not up for review) | 16:22 |
| scottda | #link https://review.openstack.org/404260 | 16:23 |
| mdovgal | Gorka's spec for dynamic log https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404260/ | 16:23 |
| xyang2 | thanks | 16:23 |
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| jungleboyj | Dynamic logging would be a nice add. | 16:25 |
| e0ne | jungleboyj: +1 | 16:25 |
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| smcginnis | Hoping we can get that. | 16:26 |
| geguileo | while we are talking about it | 16:26 |
| geguileo | do we want it in O or in P? | 16:26 |
| hemna | gotta run to drop kiddo at school....bbiab | 16:26 |
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| geguileo | I would like to know to move the specs and to know if I have to keep working in the patch now | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: I'd like it in O, but I think P is more realistic at this point. | 16:27 |
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| jungleboyj | geguileo: How large a change would it be? | 16:27 |
| geguileo | or leave it for later | 16:27 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: the code can be ready in a couple of days | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | We're past the spec freeze, though I always leave that open to core's discretion if we take things after that. | 16:27 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: we just need to agree when we want it | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: Will that delay the AA work though? | 16:27 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: not really | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | Given the two, I'd rather see the HA stuff wrapped up. | 16:27 |
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| geguileo | smcginnis:i have most of the code, just need to add some tests and do more manual verification | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: OK, if that's the case and we have at least another core or two that wants to help get this through, I'm all for it. | 16:28 |
| scottda | geguileo: can code 2 things at once, one with each hand. | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | scottda: I wouldn't be surprised. :D | 16:28 |
| geguileo | lol | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | And code review on a third monitor. | 16:28 |
| geguileo | ok, I'll get the code ready and we can decide later | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: Cool, thanks. | 16:29 |
| geguileo | np | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | Related to the patch that kicked this off, if we end up having better tracing I think this and many other places can be reevaluated. | 16:29 |
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| smcginnis | OK, anything else to excessively discuss. :) | 16:30 |
| viks_ | hi, joined in late... | 16:30 |
| viks_ | I would like to discuss https://review.openstack.org/#/c/378105/11 if meeting is open for discussions | 16:31 |
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| smcginnis | viks_: I think the point there was there shouldn't be any changes to v2 at this point. | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | Only to v3 and microversioned. | 16:32 |
| viks_ | smcginnis: I am not adding any microversion to V2 | 16:32 |
| viks_ | all test cases for V2 are passing | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | viks_: I don't know why the unit tests are relevant. Like I said, no changes should be done to v2 at this point. | 16:33 |
| e0ne | viks_: but you add unnecessary changes to v2 code | 16:33 |
| scottda | viks_: The point is that we should decide (as a Cinder team) if we are making any changes to v2 API. Especially if it's just a refactor. | 16:33 |
| viks_ | IMO V2 API is not changing | 16:33 |
| viks_ | the code refactoring..is it really a big issue | 16:34 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: to be clear: no changes that change v2 API. we can change code and fix bugs as well | 16:34 |
| viks_ | if everything is working fine | 16:34 |
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| smcginnis | e0ne: Yes, that is a better/more accurate statement. | 16:34 |
| viks_ | IMO it is not intriducing any new bugs and not stopping any prev finctionality | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | viks_: You're changing v2 API behavior by adding filtering. | 16:35 |
| geguileo | viks_: the tricky thing about bugs, is that you don't see them comming | 16:35 |
| scottda | We don't know of any new bugs. But there is always a chance bugs are introduced when you change code... | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | scottda: +1 | 16:35 |
| geguileo | viks_: so if you are making changes to the code, even a simple refactor, you may be inadvertedly introducing bugs | 16:35 |
| viks_ | that is why we have unit tests and test cases | 16:35 |
| e0ne | scottda: +1 | 16:35 |
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| geguileo | viks_: and in a perfect world we would catch everything there | 16:35 |
| geguileo | but we know we don't | 16:36 |
| scottda | viks_: Please look at launchpad for a list of bugs that exist, even though unit tests passed. | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | scottda: +1000 | 16:36 |
| geguileo | so that's why we prefer not to touch v2 api at all | 16:36 |
| geguileo | whenever it's possible | 16:36 |
| viks_ | the same code got +2 previouly... | 16:36 |
| geguileo | viks_: but you should be able to introduce the feature just touching v3 api, right? | 16:36 |
| e0ne | viks_: our code is not ideal | 16:36 |
| smcginnis | viks_: I think if you remove the v2 changes, the rest should be better. I haven't reviewed it, but otherwise the change should be OK. | 16:36 |
| e0ne | viks_: there are a lot of things to improve | 16:36 |
| geguileo | viks_: you just need to change the items method in v3 | 16:37 |
| e0ne | smcginnis, viks_: I'll +2 on it once changes to v2 will be removed | 16:37 |
| scottda | I will as well | 16:37 |
| viks_ | I dont know..it was not about that | 16:37 |
| viks_ | I thought I refactored the code for beteerment | 16:38 |
| viks_ | if we take a look at volume metadata filtering it is the same | 16:38 |
| viks_ | but looks like everyone is against it | 16:38 |
| smcginnis | viks_: Yes, I appreciate that you were trying to make it better. But not sure how many different ways we can say that v2 should not be changed. | 16:38 |
| erlon | viks_: why do you need to refactor that so much? | 16:38 |
| scottda | viks_: We get that you were refactoring the code to make it better, but we do not wish to change the v2 code for just a refactor | 16:38 |
| geguileo | viks_: if it wasn't old code the refactoring would have been welcomed with open arms | 16:38 |
| geguileo | viks_: but as the saying goes: better the devil you know | 16:38 |
| e0ne | viks_: TBH, you've added useless code to v2 like '_get_snapshot_filter_options' method | 16:39 |
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| scottda | viks_: I humbly suggest that you just remove the v2 code changes, and put them all in v3. We will approve and we'll all be done. | 16:39 |
| e0ne | I prefer to do refactoring in a separate patch | 16:39 |
| viks_ | Ok... | 16:39 |
| viks_ | thanks | 16:39 |
| viks_ | I will do it | 16:39 |
| smcginnis | viks_: Thank you. | 16:39 |
| viks_ | :) | 16:40 |
| e0ne | if somebody wants to save me from merging hell, please, review https://review.openstack.org/405258 and https://review.openstack.org/400963 | 16:40 |
| smcginnis | Anything else we need to discuss as a group? | 16:40 |
| scottda | e0ne: I feel your pain. | 16:40 |
| e0ne | scottda: :) | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | Oh, I also wanted to point out the non-client library freeze will come up quick after the holiday break. | 16:41 |
| scottda | eharney: Are you around? | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | If there's anything we need in os-brick, we better get that through quickly. | 16:41 |
| eharney | hey | 16:41 |
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| hemna | smcginnis, so please review brick patches :) | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | hemna: ;) | 16:41 |
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| scottda | eharney: You'd already +2'd "replace AssertDictMatch". So I was waiting for you to look again.. | 16:41 |
| eharney | sure, will do | 16:42 |
| * e0ne will review os-brick patches tomorrow as a top priority | 16:42 | |
| smcginnis | hemna: Did you already bring your kids to school? Are you across the street or something? :) | 16:42 |
| hemna | yah brought my kiddo to school and got back :) | 16:42 |
| scottda | eharney: Same with the v2/v3 cinderclient refactor, I guess. | 16:42 |
| smcginnis | You're quick! | 16:42 |
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| hemna | :) | 16:43 |
| smcginnis | OK, anything else worth discussing in the meeting? Or should we move along? | 16:43 |
| e0ne | scottda, eharney: for note: I'm going to do few more patches according to v1-v3 api support later | 16:43 |
| mtanino | e0ne: Please visit python-brick-cinderclient-ext patch too. | 16:43 |
| e0ne | I just don't want to have fun with chain like geguileo does | 16:43 |
| scottda | e0ne: Yeah, that's great. We can remove most of that duplicated code. | 16:44 |
| geguileo | lol | 16:44 |
| scottda | s/we can/you can/ | 16:44 |
| scottda | :) | 16:44 |
| smcginnis | OK, thanks everyone. Have a good holiday break, if you're having one. :) | 16:44 |
| e0ne | scottda: TBH, the current patch doesn't remove a lot of duplicated code. but I'll do it in a next one | 16:44 |
| smcginnis | If you're not, well, have a good quiet stretch anyway. :) | 16:44 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to everyone! | 16:44 |
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| scottda | e0ne: Yeah, I get it. But it sets things up for the next series. | 16:44 |
| smcginnis | Festivus for the rest of us. | 16:45 |
| e0ne | scottda: yep | 16:45 |
| scottda | Let's all sing some carols! | 16:45 |
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| smcginnis | That's a scary thought. :D | 16:45 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 16:45 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 21 16:45:42 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:45 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-12-21-16.00.html | 16:45 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2016/cinder.2016-12-21-16.00.txt | 16:45 |
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| bh526r_ | #startmeeting gluon | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 21 18:00:03 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bh526r_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'gluon' | 18:00 |
| bh526r_ | Hi, everyone | 18:00 |
| bh526r_ | #topic Roll Call | 18:00 |
| krenczewski | Hi Bin | 18:00 |
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| georgk | Hi bin | 18:00 |
| bh526r_ | Hi Kamil | 18:00 |
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| bh526r_ | Hi Georg | 18:00 |
| georgk | #info Georg Kunz | 18:00 |
| bh526r_ | #info Bin Hu | 18:00 |
| tomhambleton | #info Tom Hambleton | 18:00 |
| krenczewski | #info Kamil Renczewski | 18:00 |
| bh526r_ | #info Admin Update | 18:01 |
| bh526r_ | #topic Admin Update | 18:01 |
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| bh526r_ | #info None | 18:01 |
| bh526r_ | #topic Task Lists for Ocata | 18:01 |
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| bh526r_ | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Gluon/Tasks-Ocata | 18:02 |
| bh526r_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-gluon-work-plan | 18:02 |
| bh526r_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-neutron-session | 18:02 |
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| bh526r_ | #topic Status Update | 18:03 |
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| bh526r_ | #info 1. Authentication and Access Control | 18:03 |
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| bh526r_ | #info Kamal's proposal was approved and merged, and he pushed patch | 18:03 |
| bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/411000/ | 18:04 |
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| tomhambleton | Needs another +2 and workflow | 18:04 |
| bh526r_ | #info Original proposal https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398577/ was merged on Dec 15 after our discussion and approval last week | 18:04 |
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| bh526r_ | I will take care of it | 18:05 |
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| bh526r_ | #info It is under review, and got one +2. Once we have another +2, workflow will start | 18:06 |
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| bh526r_ | #info 2. OpenContrail's Mechanism Driver | 18:06 |
| bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402071/ | 18:07 |
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| krenczewski | I am waiting for some place to host the code. Nachi didn't provide one yet. | 18:07 |
| bh526r_ | #info It seems that only Juniper will maintain the code, so it is better to maintain it in Juniper's repo | 18:07 |
| bh526r_ | #info Kamil will work internally within Juniper to determine the appropriate code repo | 18:08 |
| krenczewski | Should I ammend the commit now or it can wait after the repo is chosen? | 18:08 |
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| bh526r_ | You can wait after the repo is chosen | 18:09 |
| krenczewski | OK | 18:09 |
| bh526r_ | #info After the repo is chosen, Kamil will revise the README.md to reflect the new repo of the code | 18:09 |
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| bh526r_ | #info and the instruction where to fetch the code, change the configuration to make it work with Gluon framework | 18:10 |
| bh526r_ | #info Then OPNFV NetReady can also revise its build process to get the code, and build RPM. | 18:10 |
| bh526r_ | Does it sound good? | 18:11 |
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| krenczewski | Good for me | 18:11 |
| bh526r_ | Thank you Kamil | 18:11 |
| bh526r_ | #info 3. Testing | 18:11 |
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| bh526r_ | #info One patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393935/ was approved and merged on Dec 15. | 18:12 |
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| bh526r_ | #info 2 more patches are under review | 18:13 |
| bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/388821/ | 18:13 |
| bh526r_ | #info Georg reviewed, edited it and +1'ed it | 18:14 |
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| bh526r_ | Does anyone have other opinion? | 18:14 |
| bh526r_ | If no other opinion, I suggested to approve it. | 18:15 |
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| tomhambleton | I just did | 18:15 |
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| bh526r_ | #info Team approved it, and it is being merged | 18:18 |
| bh526r_ | Great and thank you | 18:18 |
| georgk | we should remove the WIP from the commit message if still possible | 18:18 |
| bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/405689/ | 18:18 |
| bh526r_ | This is the 2nd one. But Jenkins verified -1 | 18:19 |
| bh526r_ | #info This is the 2nd one. But Jenkins verified -1 | 18:19 |
| bh526r_ | #info So author Jin needs to fix it | 18:19 |
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| bh526r_ | #info 4. Shim Layer for Open Daylight | 18:20 |
| bh526r_ | #info Niko submitted an original patch | 18:20 |
| bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/407388/ | 18:21 |
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| bh526r_ | #info Georg submitted a new patch that fixed API adaption, and some other optimizations | 18:21 |
| bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413011/ | 18:22 |
| bh526r_ | #info The old patch 407388 needs to be abandoned and replaced with new patch 413011 | 18:22 |
| bh526r_ | #info Because Georg needs to do some more testings, and more polish the code, we can wait for a little more while and see what Niko says | 18:23 |
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| bh526r_ | #info All please continue to review 413011 and give comments if any | 18:24 |
| bh526r_ | #info 5. Gluon API Specification | 18:24 |
| bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/411918/ | 18:25 |
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| bh526r_ | #info There is one +2. All will review it and process it accordingly | 18:26 |
| bh526r_ | #info 6. Bug Fixes | 18:26 |
| bh526r_ | #info There are 3 bug fix patches | 18:27 |
| bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410837/ | 18:27 |
| bh526r_ | #info this was merged on Dec 20 | 18:27 |
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| bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/411003/ | 18:27 |
| bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/411019/ | 18:28 |
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| bh526r_ | #info Those 2 were merged on Dec 15 | 18:28 |
| bh526r_ | #info So all 3 bug fix patches were approved and merged | 18:28 |
| bh526r_ | #info 7. Devstack integration | 18:29 |
| bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404069/ | 18:29 |
| bh526r_ | #info Ian submitted this patch. My understanding is that it is still work in progress | 18:29 |
| bh526r_ | #info All are encouraged to review, participate and contribute to this work | 18:29 |
| bh526r_ | #info 8. Add Entry Points to our Neutron Plugin | 18:30 |
| tomhambleton | I submitted one yesterday: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413307/ | 18:30 |
| bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404390/ | 18:30 |
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| bh526r_ | Great, thank you Tom | 18:30 |
| bh526r_ | #info Ian's work is also still in progress. | 18:31 |
| bh526r_ | #info All are encouraged to review, participate and contribute to this work | 18:31 |
| bh526r_ | #info 9. New Bug Fix | 18:31 |
| bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413307/ | 18:31 |
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| bh526r_ | #info Tom submitted a new bug fix of unhandled etcd read exception yesterday | 18:32 |
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| bh526r_ | I just read it, it looks good to me | 18:33 |
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| bh526r_ | Any other opinion? | 18:34 |
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| bh526r_ | If no other opinion, I suggest to approve it | 18:35 |
| bh526r_ | #info Team reviewed it and approved it. | 18:35 |
| bh526r_ | I just +2 it | 18:35 |
| bh526r_ | It needs another +2 and workflow | 18:36 |
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| bh526r_ | #info 10. Nova Enhancement work with Nova team | 18:37 |
| bh526r_ | #info Ian is working with Nova on it, and it is a work in progress | 18:37 |
| bh526r_ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/390513/ | 18:38 |
| bh526r_ | #info The most recent comments were on Dec 13 | 18:38 |
| bh526r_ | #topic Next Steps | 18:39 |
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| bh526r_ | All please review the patches, and give comments if any so that we can progress steadily | 18:40 |
| bh526r_ | #topic AOB | 18:40 |
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| bh526r_ | I suggest to cancel our meeting next week Dec 28, and re-convene on Jan 4 in the new year | 18:41 |
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| bh526r_ | Any other opinion | 18:41 |
| tomhambleton | Sounds good to me. I will be on vacation next week. | 18:41 |
| georgk | fine with me | 18:41 |
| bh526r_ | Enjoy your vacation and have a good time | 18:41 |
| bh526r_ | #info All agreed to cancel the meeting next week Dec 28, and we will re-convene on Jan 4 in the new year | 18:42 |
| bh526r_ | #info Wish everyone enjoy the holidays and have a good time | 18:42 |
| bh526r_ | Anything else to discuss? | 18:42 |
| georgk | same to you | 18:42 |
| bh526r_ | if nothing else, we can adjourn | 18:43 |
| tomhambleton | No, I think we are good. | 18:43 |
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| bh526r_ | Great and thank you Tom | 18:43 |
| bh526r_ | #info Meeting Adjourned | 18:43 |
| tomhambleton | Bye all, have a safe and happy holiday! | 18:43 |
| krenczewski | Thanks, bye | 18:43 |
| bh526r_ | #endmeeting | 18:43 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 21 18:43:51 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:43 |
| georgk | Thanks, bye | 18:43 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2016/gluon.2016-12-21-18.00.html | 18:43 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2016/gluon.2016-12-21-18.00.txt | 18:43 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2016/gluon.2016-12-21-18.00.log.html | 18:43 |
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| bh526r_ | Thank you all, and bye all, have a pleasant holiday | 18:44 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | anyone about for the storyboard meeting? | 18:59 |
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| SotK | o/ | 19:00 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #startmeeting storyboard | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Dec 21 19:00:41 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zara_the_lemur__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 19:00 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | okay, we're having a meeting this week since we didn't explicitly cancel it, but nobody has anything much to say that I'm aware of | 19:01 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | so I propose going straight to open discussion | 19:01 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | and if nobody brings anything up in the next 10 mins, will end the meeting | 19:01 |
| SotK | sounds good to me | 19:01 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #topic Open Discussion | 19:02 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | we're steadily working on the second blogpost, in case anyone was wondering about the status there | 19:02 |
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| diablo_rojo | I will add the lp stuff and then send it over to fungi to look over before we go and post it | 19:02 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | woop | 19:03 |
| diablo_rojo | zara_the_lemur__, and I were discussion when to actually post it? Before holidays or after? | 19:03 |
| diablo_rojo | Or post it before and promote it after? | 19:03 |
| diablo_rojo | Also the email to promote ttx's is on my radar still. I will hopefully get that email out today/tomorrow. | 19:03 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I think maybe have it ready before, post and promote after, mainly so that we don't have it looming over us, but no strong preference. | 19:04 |
| SotK | I guess it depends when you reckon it'll be done | 19:04 |
| SotK | I think in general I agree with Zara | 19:04 |
| diablo_rojo | That sounds good to me. I can get it done and get fungi looking at it before the break | 19:05 |
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| persia | I like the idea of promoting after. Too many other messages in other channels and not enough folk paying attention to targeted channels for promotion before | 19:05 |
| persia | s/channels/fora/ | 19:05 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | yeah, I think we have consensus there. | 19:06 |
| SotK | can we bikeshed a proper domain in time for promoting things? | 19:06 |
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| persia | Is there already an etherpad for that bikeshed? | 19:07 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | :D nope, but we can make one. (and storyboard-blog.co.uk is apparently still free if we want to just remove the sotk) | 19:07 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | (sorry sotk) | 19:07 |
| diablo_rojo | Make the etherpad :) | 19:08 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/storyboard-blog-bikeshed | 19:08 |
| diablo_rojo | LOL | 19:08 |
| diablo_rojo | I love this project. | 19:08 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | :) | 19:08 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I kept the title general so we could bikeshed on other things blog-related as they came up | 19:09 |
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| diablo_rojo | Good call | 19:09 |
| persia | This is why we have formal structured text. | 19:09 |
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| persia | Which one are we using for this etherpad? | 19:09 |
| * persia unasks the joking question | 19:09 | |
| zara_the_lemur__ | :) | 19:10 |
| diablo_rojo | :) | 19:10 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I was going to suggest you make an etherpad for the etherpad | 19:10 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | but that works too | 19:10 |
| SotK | :D | 19:10 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | other things... I'm steadily reviewing patches, slowly as I'm on holiday and bought a guitar game. | 19:11 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | (and SotK volunteered to review tristanC's email ones; this is a reminder since I am a storyboard notifications bot.) | 19:12 |
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| SotK | yeah I will get to that probably tomorrow | 19:12 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | ace, I should be around then | 19:13 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | there's nothing else on my radar so poke me if there's anything I've forgotten | 19:14 |
| SotK | we should fix yesterday's private story bug | 19:15 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | oh yeah | 19:15 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I miiight get to that tomorrow | 19:16 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | pretty sure I know how to fix it | 19:16 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | (well mainly because you said exactly which line was causing the problem) | 19:16 |
| SotK | woo :) | 19:16 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | for anyone who missed in-channel discussion-- it's a bug that means you can create a private story with no users | 19:19 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | effectively rendering it invisible | 19:19 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | you have to go to some lengths (actively remove all users) | 19:19 |
| persia | Does that bug also manifest as being able to remove all the users from an existing private story, so that it becomes secret? | 19:19 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I suspect so, though I'm not sure; can't remember off the top of my head if the relevant code was just for creating a new story | 19:20 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | (and I only tested when creating a new one) | 19:20 |
| SotK | it shouldnt do | 19:21 |
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| SotK | the relevant code is only in the POST endpoint | 19:22 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | ^ what he said, then | 19:22 |
| persia | Right. | 19:22 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | (I wanted to give context on it so people don't read 'private stories bug' and worry it leaks sensitive info.) | 19:24 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | I'll end the meeting at half past if nobody else has a discussion point to bring up | 19:27 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | thanks, all! | 19:29 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #endmeeting | 19:29 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Dec 21 19:29:44 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:29 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-12-21-19.00.html | 19:29 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-12-21-19.00.txt | 19:29 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2016/storyboard.2016-12-21-19.00.log.html | 19:29 |
| SotK | thanks zara_the_lemur__ | 19:31 |
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