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| ekcs | time for congress meeting. masahito ramineni_ aimeeu | 00:02 |
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| ekcs | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 00:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 22 00:02:25 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 00:02 |
| masahito | hi all | 00:02 |
| ramineni_ | Hi | 00:02 |
| ekcs | hi all! | 00:03 |
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| ekcs | I have a short agenda today. | 00:05 |
| ekcs | - ocata-2 | 00:05 |
| ekcs | - manual testing script | 00:05 |
| ekcs | - status | 00:05 |
| ekcs | - open discussion | 00:05 |
| ekcs | anything else people wanna add? | 00:05 |
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| ekcs | alrite let’s get started then. | 00:08 |
| ekcs | #topic ocata-2 | 00:08 |
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| ekcs | Just an update that ocata-2 was released last week. No major issues there. Any questions/comments? | 00:09 |
| ekcs | okay then = ) | 00:10 |
| ekcs | that reminds me. quick topic on ocata-3. | 00:10 |
| ekcs | #topic ocata-3 | 00:10 |
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| ekcs | Retargeted a few things to Ocata-3. | 00:10 |
| ekcs | #link https://launchpad.net/congress/+milestone/ocata-3 | 00:10 |
| ekcs | not many high priority items on the list right now, which is good because the deadline is coming up early in january! | 00:11 |
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| ekcs | please feel free to add other bugs / BPs you’re targeting for ocata-3. | 00:12 |
| masahito | nice! | 00:12 |
| ekcs | any questions or comments? | 00:12 |
| ekcs | alright then = ) | 00:13 |
| ekcs | #topic manual testing script | 00:13 |
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| ekcs | with ocata-3 and RC1 fast approaching, it’s important to think about manual testing some more. | 00:14 |
| ekcs | we all have our own ways of doing manual testing, but it’s not totally clear what the overall coverage is, and we may also have a lot of duplicate effort. | 00:15 |
| ekcs | so I thought it’d help everyone to collect together 1 or several manual testing “scripts” (not necessarily automated) we each use and make it available for everyone to use and improve updon. | 00:16 |
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| masahito | +1 | 00:16 |
| ekcs | Here is a start: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CfJlURNfaZDdPjHHPMcEi09kjSiJDgB7WrT_0j8Of00/edit | 00:17 |
| ekcs | #link https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CfJlURNfaZDdPjHHPMcEi09kjSiJDgB7WrT_0j8Of00/edit | 00:17 |
| ekcs | what do you think about adding our own tests to the “script” there and eventually maybe add it to the repo. | 00:18 |
| ekcs | not sure yet whether it should be one script or many scripts. | 00:18 |
| masahito | under congress repo seems to be better. | 00:18 |
| ekcs | yea I’m treating this as an etherpad for us to quickly add things to it before more permanently putting into repo. | 00:19 |
| ekcs | maybe I should do an actual etherpad. | 00:19 |
| ekcs | here #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-manual-testing | 00:20 |
| ekcs | or masahito do you think we should just commit to repo from the start? | 00:21 |
| masahito | ekcs: yes. | 00:21 |
| masahito | even though a file in the repo only lists what test we do in manual. | 00:22 |
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| ekcs | ok. I feel like when first getting started, there will be many many changes in a short amount of time, and the review process would be too cumbersome in the beginning. | 00:23 |
| ekcs | but that’s okay if people prefer that. | 00:23 |
| masahito | The reason I prefer to use the repo is anyone can see the test. | 00:24 |
| masahito | ekcs: I understand your concern. | 00:24 |
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| ekcs | would it address the desire if we do first couple weeks in etherpad then commit to repo? | 00:24 |
| masahito | ekcs: make sense | 00:24 |
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| ekcs | ok then. any other thoughts? | 00:25 |
| ekcs | ok next topic then. | 00:26 |
| ekcs | #topic status updates | 00:26 |
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| ekcs | haven’t done this in a while = ) | 00:26 |
| ekcs | ramineni_: looks like you have a lot of patches in review. would you like to give an update? | 00:27 |
| ramineni_ | Ok | 00:28 |
| ramineni_ | Not much .. worked upon some bugs and looking into dashboard part what we can improve | 00:29 |
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| ramineni_ | I have registered BP for dashboard part ..If you feel anything else needs to be added .Can be updated there | 00:30 |
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| ramineni_ | That's it from my side | 00:30 |
| ekcs | awesome. thanks ramineni_ ! | 00:31 |
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| ekcs | this patch seems ready to merge? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/405924/ | 00:31 |
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| ramineni_ | Yes | 00:32 |
| masahito | I think so | 00:32 |
| ekcs | ok then. | 00:33 |
| ekcs | masahito: would you like to give an update? | 00:33 |
| masahito | ekcs: sure | 00:33 |
| ramineni_ | I missed masahito comment on the patch ..I'll quickly update it | 00:33 |
| masahito | I'm working on devstack plugin registers out-of-box policies. | 00:34 |
| masahito | I could push the patch in this week. | 00:34 |
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| masahito | Sorry, not big progress. Recently, other tasks interrupt me. | 00:35 |
| masahito | that's from my side. | 00:35 |
| ekcs | ramineni_: awesome! feel free to approve it right away. | 00:35 |
| ekcs | masahito: thanks! it’s all good we all know there are many things on our plates = ) | 00:36 |
| ekcs | masahito: looking forward to the out-of-the-box policy work! | 00:36 |
| ekcs | quick update from me. | 00:37 |
| ekcs | Main focus has been these two bugs: | 00:37 |
| ekcs | https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1637172 | 00:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1637172 in congress "rule using policy:table(…) reference fails to create" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Eric K (ekcs) | 00:37 |
| ekcs | https://bugs.launchpad.net/congress/+bug/1638746 | 00:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1638746 in congress "two nodes may insert rules causing unsupported recursion" [High,New] - Assigned to Eric K (ekcs) | 00:37 |
| ekcs | The first one has a simple solution in review: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404478/ | 00:37 |
| ekcs | The second one a rather complex and has many trade-offs. But I expect to have a patch soon. | 00:37 |
| ekcs | additionally, also want to focus on creating a solid manual testing script for ocata QA | 00:38 |
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| ekcs | been behind on some code reviews but working on catching up! | 00:38 |
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| ekcs | that’s all from me. | 00:38 |
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| ekcs | oh and also researching and talking to people about the API design issue. | 00:39 |
| ekcs | #topic open discusion | 00:40 |
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| ekcs | lots of time for open discussion = ) | 00:41 |
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| ekcs | ramineni_: we could discuss the API name/id issue here if you think it’d be helpful. or we can just continue on gerrit if you think that works better. | 00:42 |
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| ekcs | has anyone registered and/or arranged travel for PTG? | 00:44 |
| ekcs | I’m looking to do mine this week. | 00:44 |
| masahito | I've done. | 00:45 |
| ekcs | oh great. which days are you planning to be there? | 00:45 |
| masahito | I plan to get to there on Mon. and leave on Sat. | 00:45 |
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| ekcs | awesome. do you know what you expect to be involved in in the early part of the week? | 00:47 |
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| masahito | I'll check oslo or kolla team in the early part if they have interesting topic. | 00:48 |
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| masahito | if they don't have, I focus on recovering from jet-lag :-) | 00:49 |
| ekcs | haha perfect. | 00:49 |
| ekcs | anyway seems we don't have any pressing issues to discuss. Should we end early? | 00:49 |
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| masahito | I'm in neutral. depending on others. | 00:50 |
| ekcs | ok. let’s call it then. | 00:51 |
| ekcs | Great catching up with you all and see you next week! | 00:51 |
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| masahito | I have one topic | 00:52 |
| ekcs | oh okay. haha just in time. | 00:52 |
| masahito | Do we have weekly meeting in next week? | 00:53 |
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| ekcs | hmm that’s up to us I guess. I’m open either way. masahito ramineni_ would you like to have a meeting next week or better to skip it? | 00:54 |
| masahito | In other words, we have this meeting end of this year and beginning of next year? | 00:54 |
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| ekcs | so the days in question are 12/29 and 1/5 right? | 00:55 |
| masahito | right. | 00:55 |
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| masahito | I could join 12/29 but prefer to skip it. | 00:55 |
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| ekcs | tim won’t be here on 12/29 but expects to be back for 1/5. | 00:55 |
| ekcs | ramineni_: do you have any preferences? | 00:56 |
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| ekcs | masahito: what about 1/5 do you have a preference there? | 00:57 |
| masahito | I'm ok on 1/5. | 00:57 |
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| ekcs | ok then let’s skip on 12/29 and come back 1/5 then. | 00:58 |
| ekcs | I’ll write an announcement to ML. | 00:58 |
| masahito | ekcs: thanks | 00:58 |
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| ekcs | thanks for bringing it up! I didn’t think about it because i didn’t know whether the end of year period matters to people in asia. | 00:59 |
| ekcs | anyway times up now. see you guys 1/5! | 01:00 |
| ekcs | #endmeeting | 01:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 22 01:01:00 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-12-22-00.02.html | 01:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-12-22-00.02.txt | 01:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2016/congressteammeeting.2016-12-22-00.02.log.html | 01:01 |
| masahito | see you, have a holiday o/ | 01:01 |
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| ianychoi | Hello. Anyone here for I18n meeting? | 13:01 |
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| ianychoi | Oh jftalta hi! | 13:01 |
| jftalta | Hello ianychoi | 13:01 |
| ianychoi | Sorry for last week. I was so busy with other things.. | 13:02 |
| jftalta | don't worry, not a problem for me | 13:02 |
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| ianychoi | Thanks.. then although there are no others let's start :) | 13:03 |
| jftalta | ok | 13:03 |
| ianychoi | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 13:03 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 22 13:03:45 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ianychoi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:03 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:03 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 13:03 |
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| ianychoi | #topic Review on last meeting actions | 13:04 |
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| ianychoi | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-12-08-13.15.html | 13:04 |
| ianychoi | There were two action items on the last meeting. | 13:04 |
| ianychoi | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2016-December/002628.html | 13:04 |
| ianychoi | Thanks to Alex Eng, now I have admin privilege on Zanata in translate-dev.openstack.org | 13:05 |
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| jftalta | It's a good thing | 13:05 |
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| ianychoi | Yep Also he said that he would run some sanity test and make sure Zanata runs properly.. | 13:06 |
| jftalta | ok | 13:06 |
| ianychoi | Yep :) How about French landing page? | 13:06 |
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| ianychoi | I remember that you have asked some questions and I think I answered.. | 13:06 |
| jftalta | I submitted the patch this morning | 13:06 |
| ianychoi | Wow nice. Could you share the link with "#link" ? | 13:07 |
| jftalta | sure | 13:07 |
| jftalta | #link https://review.openstack.org/414001 | 13:08 |
| ianychoi | Thanks. Let me see it.. | 13:08 |
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| ianychoi | #link http://docs-draft.openstack.org/01/414001/1/check/gate-openstack-manuals-tox-doc-publish-checkbuild/85a65a4//publish-docs/www/fr/index.html | 13:08 |
| ianychoi | Nice! | 13:09 |
| ianychoi | Thanks a lot | 13:09 |
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| ianychoi | Okay.. then moving on the next topic? | 13:10 |
| jftalta | Links lead to a 404... | 13:10 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, that will be fine | 13:10 |
| ianychoi | After merging to docs.openstack.org, then it will be fine | 13:10 |
| jftalta | ok | 13:10 |
| jftalta | next topic if you want | 13:11 |
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| ianychoi | Okay.. maybe the next precedure would be to apply newer index.html page theme like http://docs.openstack.org/ja/ (with pictures and more buttons) | 13:12 |
| ianychoi | Do you want to add them later? | 13:12 |
| jftalta | yes I do. The page will be nicer | 13:13 |
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| ianychoi | I see. I have just thought that another possible procedure to patch like this theme would be to initially submit a patch with coarse translation by me and then you will give feedback (comments, revising patch, and so on), and so on.. | 13:14 |
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| jftalta | ok, good idea | 13:15 |
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| ianychoi | Okay let's do like that way :) | 13:16 |
| ianychoi | #action jftalta and ianychoi will apply themes on French landing page after current patch is merged | 13:16 |
| ianychoi | #topic Wrapping up for this year in I18n team | 13:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Wrapping up for this year in I18n team (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 13:16 | |
| ianychoi | I have written this topic just to recall what happened in this year.. | 13:17 |
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| jftalta | you mean the main events I suppose | 13:18 |
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| ianychoi | Yep main events :) | 13:18 |
| jftalta | New language(s) | 13:18 |
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| ianychoi | Yep there are a few new languages: Romanian and Lao | 13:19 |
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| ianychoi | And there have been lots of translation contribution from Indonedia | 13:20 |
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| ianychoi | We had one virtual sprint on January this year | 13:20 |
| ianychoi | Stackalytics now supports "Translation" metric | 13:21 |
| ianychoi | Also, there are total three PTLs: Daisy, Kato-san and me.. | 13:22 |
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| ianychoi | Hmm.. so lots of things happen | 13:23 |
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| ianychoi | but it is difficult to iterate all :) | 13:23 |
| jftalta | Yes. It's hard to summarize a whole year in just a few minutes | 13:25 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, what is your the best memorable event in this year? | 13:25 |
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| jftalta | from I18n project point of view ? From OpenStack one's ? | 13:26 |
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| ianychoi | My asking is for I18n point of view but OpenStack one's is also fine | 13:26 |
| jftalta | The work session in Barcelona was great ! | 13:27 |
| ianychoi | Thanks :) | 13:27 |
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| jftalta | And Austin was a great summit | 13:28 |
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| ianychoi | Yep | 13:28 |
| ianychoi | For me, PTL activities maybe | 13:28 |
| ianychoi | ... what I meant that I have never thought PTL role | 13:29 |
| ianychoi | Although I am still busy but I really would like to do more | 13:29 |
| jftalta | I know... | 13:30 |
| ianychoi | For OpenStack one, it was very great to participate in two Summits this year | 13:31 |
| ianychoi | , although I just attended a few days.. | 13:31 |
| ianychoi | Next year, I will try to stay more days | 13:31 |
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| ianychoi | Hi ujuc ! | 13:32 |
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| jftalta | Hi ujuc | 13:32 |
| ujuc | hi | 13:32 |
| ujuc | i late. sorry. | 13:32 |
| ianychoi | Fine :) | 13:32 |
| jftalta | I'll stay the whole week in Boston | 13:33 |
| ujuc | :) | 13:33 |
| ianychoi | me and jftalta are simply talking to wrap up what happened in this year | 13:33 |
| ianychoi | Wow nice | 13:33 |
| jftalta | ianychoi: and what about you ? | 13:34 |
| jftalta | Are you going to PTG in Atlanta ? | 13:34 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, yes I will try travel support for PTG in Atlanta | 13:35 |
| ianychoi | #link https://openstackfoundation.formstack.com/forms/travelsupportptg_atlanta | 13:35 |
| ianychoi | #link http://www.openstack.org/ptg | 13:36 |
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| ianychoi | Currently, there is no mention "I18n" but I think it will be nice for me to attend Documentation room on Mon-Tue | 13:36 |
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| jftalta | Yes. I think it's important that I18n PTL attends the first PTG. | 13:37 |
| ianychoi | and also discuss i18n things for people who are interested in I18n and also I will go to Horizon room to discuss StringFreeze related things.. | 13:37 |
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| jftalta | of course | 13:37 |
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| ianychoi | Yep :) | 13:38 |
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| jftalta | I18n is an "horizontal" team, like Doc | 13:39 |
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| ianychoi | Actually, a few months ago, I talked with ttx for room allocation | 13:39 |
| ianychoi | However, I replied that I18n does not need a room, since only few i18n members will attend to PTG | 13:40 |
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| ianychoi | Instead, I think I need to more look at other horizontal teams and also some server projects, listen to what's their point of views for i18n, and so on.. | 13:41 |
| jftalta | Ok. I understand why I18n is not mentioned in the Atlanta PTG agenda | 13:41 |
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| ianychoi | But I think current PTG homepage looks that i18n will not attend PTG | 13:42 |
| ianychoi | I will talk with Foundation members :) | 13:42 |
| jftalta | +1 | 13:42 |
| ianychoi | The next topic is "Zanata upgrade status" but we already briefly discussed in reviewing last action items.. | 13:43 |
| ianychoi | Can I move to open discussion? | 13:43 |
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| jftalta | ok for me | 13:43 |
| ianychoi | #topic Open discussions | 13:44 |
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| jftalta | I forgot to tell you something about Zanata ... | 13:45 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, oh which one? | 13:45 |
| ianychoi | ujuc, would you review French landing page: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/414001/ ? :) | 13:46 |
| jftalta | I gave a try to zanata_stats.py but it failed with and https error | 13:46 |
| ianychoi | Hmm.. could you share log messages via paste.openstack.org? | 13:46 |
| jftalta | sure | 13:46 |
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| jftalta | I will email the paste link | 13:48 |
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| ianychoi | Okay I see | 13:49 |
| ujuc | ok | 13:50 |
| ianychoi | For me, it works well with this command for example: "$ python zanata_stats.py -s 2016-12-01 -e 2016-12-21 -l ko-KR -p openstack-manuals -o test.csv translation_team.yaml" | 13:50 |
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| ianychoi | Oh too said.. only me and ujuc contributed translations in December for openstack-manuals.. | 13:51 |
| ianychoi | s/said/sad/ | 13:51 |
| jftalta | and zanata-dev ? | 13:51 |
| ianychoi | #link https://translate-dev.openstack.org/ | 13:52 |
| ianychoi | This now works :) | 13:52 |
| ianychoi | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/i18n-zanata-test-for-translate-dev | 13:52 |
| ianychoi | I have not tested 10-14, but today I received admin privilege on translate-dev.o.o from aeng | 13:53 |
| ianychoi | So I will test them | 13:53 |
| jftalta | ok | 13:54 |
| ianychoi | All seem to go a little bit slow.. but the good news that we are going for positive world :( | 13:54 |
| ianychoi | s/:(/:) | 13:54 |
| jftalta | Yes we are ! | 13:54 |
| ianychoi | By the way, thanks a lot, jftalta, especially attending IRC meetings | 13:55 |
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| ianychoi | On early next year, I would like to open a mail loop via language coordinators: IRC meeting partcipation, i18n governance(?) and core-reviewers | 13:56 |
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| jftalta | My pleasure. And for the good of OpenStack community and technology | 13:56 |
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| ianychoi | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/docteam/2016/docteam.2016-12-15-21.00.html | 13:57 |
| ianychoi | One my idea is that each language team with sufficient translation work can have one core reviewer | 13:57 |
| jftalta | +1. That will be a good warm-up | 13:58 |
| ianychoi | And another is that each language team will be regarded as specialty teams in docs team | 13:58 |
| jftalta | Ah, why not | 13:59 |
| ianychoi | :) | 13:59 |
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| ianychoi | I want to more talk with language coordinators.. | 13:59 |
| jftalta | yep | 13:59 |
| ianychoi | Yep let's wrap up today meeting | 13:59 |
| ianychoi | Merry Christmas and happy new year! | 13:59 |
| ianychoi | Also have a good holiday :) | 14:00 |
| ianychoi | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 22 14:00:06 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-12-22-13.03.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-12-22-13.03.txt | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2016/openstack_i18n_meeting.2016-12-22-13.03.log.html | 14:00 |
| jftalta | Oh thanks ! Merry Christmas and happy New Year to ! | 14:00 |
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| andreaf | #startmeeting qa | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 22 17:00:31 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is andreaf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 17:00 |
| jordanP | hi | 17:00 |
| andreaf | hello dear QA engineers - who's here today? | 17:00 |
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| scottda | hi | 17:00 |
| andreaf | hi jordanP :) | 17:00 |
| andreaf | o/ | 17:01 |
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| andreaf | Hello scottda | 17:01 |
| andreaf | let's wait a couple of minutes more to see if someone else joins | 17:01 |
| * andreaf thinks the holiday season has started for many already | 17:02 | |
| jordanP | yup | 17:02 |
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| rodrigods | o/ | 17:02 |
| mmedvede | o/ | 17:02 |
| andreaf | Agenda for today: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_December_22nd_2016_.281700_UTC.29 | 17:02 |
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| andreaf | ok it's 3 past, let's get started | 17:03 |
| andreaf | First topic, I just wanted to quickly remind folks about the PTG | 17:03 |
| andreaf | #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 17:04 |
| andreaf | I don't think we have an etherpad with topics yet, but talking with folks a couple of things emerged | 17:04 |
| andreaf | i.e. squash class hierarchy, fix neutron scenario | 17:04 |
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| jordanP | who will be there ? I will | 17:04 |
| andreaf | which would be good to tackle | 17:04 |
| andreaf | I will be there | 17:04 |
| rodrigods | i won't :( will miss lots of keystone stuff too | 17:05 |
| andreaf | I think oomichi will be there | 17:05 |
| andreaf | :( | 17:05 |
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| DavidPurcell | I live in Atlanta, so I will be there. | 17:05 |
| rodrigods | DavidPurcell, ++ | 17:05 |
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| andreaf | so beginning of next year we should start an etherpad and start to decide in advance what we are going to be working on to make the best of our time together there | 17:06 |
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| jordanP | squash class hierarchy, fix neutron scenario are good topics btw | 17:06 |
| andreaf | #action oomichi setup and etherpad for QA at the PTG | 17:06 |
| * andreaf assigns actions to absents :P | 17:07 | |
| jordanP | lol | 17:07 |
| andreaf | ok anything else on PTG? | 17:07 |
| rodrigods | lol | 17:07 |
| andreaf | #topic Specs Reviews | 17:07 |
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| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 17:08 |
| andreaf | anything on specs? | 17:08 |
| rodrigods | andreaf, there is one ayoung wants to revert | 17:08 |
| rodrigods | maybe we can discuss? | 17:08 |
| ayoung | sure | 17:08 |
| rodrigods | if he is available... | 17:08 |
| rodrigods | oh there he is | 17:08 |
| andreaf | link? | 17:09 |
| ayoung | one sec | 17:09 |
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| andreaf | heh I guess #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410250/ | 17:09 |
| ayoung | having troubler getting to Gerrit... | 17:10 |
| rodrigods | yeah... that one | 17:10 |
| ayoung | Yeah...ok | 17:10 |
| ayoung | so here is the deal | 17:10 |
| ayoung | we've been associating policy and RBAC for so long, that you guys thought we were serious | 17:10 |
| ayoung | we were, but we are not anymore | 17:10 |
| ayoung | here is where we are headed: | 17:10 |
| ayoung | we are planning on splitting RBAC from policy, and enforcing RBAC earlier, in the keystonemiddleware phase | 17:10 |
| ayoung | there are many reasons for this, and you can read them on the spec I linked in the review... | 17:11 |
| ayoung | http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/keystone-specs/specs/keystone/ongoing/role-check-from-middleware.html | 17:11 |
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| ayoung | Since this is totally unfair to you guys, I figured I would give you a big heads up by proposing a Revert | 17:11 |
| ayoung | :} | 17:11 |
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| ayoung | there are a couple things we could do | 17:12 |
| ayoung | 1. rewrite this spec to be a general test of the policy framework, with a focus on the scope checking: | 17:12 |
| ayoung | scope checking meaning "does the project of the token match the project of the resource" | 17:12 |
| ayoung | this is the main thing that we are going to expect oslo-policy based code to continie to enforce | 17:13 |
| ayoung | there will also be service specific things...see the neutron policyu file for examples | 17:13 |
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| rj2083 | wassup | 17:13 |
| ayoung | the roles needed to execute a specific operation, however, won't be a part of that, and the reverted spec was targeting exactly that | 17:13 |
| ayoung | so the other thing we could do is | 17:14 |
| ayoung | 2. CHange this spec to test the RBAC as defined by the new mechanism | 17:14 |
| rj2083 | regardless of where you enforce rbac, you still need to test it | 17:14 |
| ayoung | and that would be wonderful | 17:14 |
| ayoung | rj2083, yep | 17:14 |
| ayoung | and I am willing to drop the revert so long as we have a plan to test it as smart as possible | 17:15 |
| DavidPurcell | I like the 2nd approach. | 17:15 |
| ayoung | DavidPurcell, so do I. The biggest issue is that the RBAC in middleware is still under development | 17:15 |
| andreaf | would we be able to write tests now that will work once the new mechanism is in place? | 17:15 |
| ayoung | but doing QA along side the main code would be wonderful | 17:15 |
| rodrigods | 2nd approach makes sense, although this needs to land first in keystonemiddleware side | 17:15 |
| ayoung | rodrigods, right...3 layers actually | 17:15 |
| ayoung | 1. keystone server | 17:16 |
| ayoung | 2. keystoneclient | 17:16 |
| ayoung | 3. keystonemiddleware | 17:16 |
| rodrigods | yeah | 17:16 |
| ayoung | I have WIP for 1 | 17:16 |
| rj2083 | and actually four layers | 17:16 |
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| DavidPurcell | ayoung: Right. That is why I wanted to start off testing the current method that centers around policies, and then once the new approach is added to Keystone, we can consider adding or changing to that approach. | 17:16 |
| rj2083 | one for every service to pull out oslo.policy enforcement | 17:16 |
| ayoung | DavidPurcell, so I think we really want to test both | 17:16 |
| ayoung | when I said two options, I really mean, there are two things we need to do | 17:16 |
| ayoung | 1 is to redirect the current effort to testing policy, but not focus on RBAC | 17:17 |
| jordanP | (DavidPurcell, is that related to the Patrole project ?) | 17:17 |
| ayoung | 2 is to test RBAC in the middleware layer | 17:17 |
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| rj2083 | in actuality all of this is external to patrole | 17:17 |
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| ayoung | the example in the spec talks about testing RBAC for "compute_extension:services" | 17:18 |
| ayoung | now, one major difference in the Middleware approach is that RBAC will be per URL, not per policy rule | 17:18 |
| rj2083 | i'm not sure why we would want to do any of this in your buleprint andrew, before the other services have removed oslo policy | 17:18 |
| rj2083 | and defined everything in keystone alone | 17:18 |
| ayoung | so instead of "compute_extension:services" | 17:18 |
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| ayoung | is would be service=compute url=/v2.1/thing/that/extends/services | 17:19 |
| ayoung | or whatnot | 17:19 |
| ayoung | I am really worried about Tempest and other tests locking us in to the existing policy approach based on RBAC, and then not being able to get the base code in | 17:19 |
| ayoung | I've seen that happen on other policy based work, so I did want to run up a big RED FLAG | 17:20 |
| ayoung | so, sorry for being a little grandiouse in the revert, but the message was important | 17:20 |
| rj2083 | until it happens here | 17:20 |
| rj2083 | i'm not worried | 17:20 |
| rj2083 | and actually regardless of where the enforcement happens | 17:20 |
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| rj2083 | the api flow will remain unchanged | 17:20 |
| jordanP | ayoung, I think you did right. We (QA) shouldn't write tests that will delay or block what projects want | 17:20 |
| ayoung | thanks | 17:20 |
| jordanP | I better have no test than wrong tests | 17:20 |
| jordanP | that's just me though :) | 17:21 |
| rj2083 | you will always call a service and the service will always enforce policy | 17:21 |
| ayoung | jordanP, and in this case, it will be a multi-project effort to get things set up. I've been dealing with one of those for bug 968696 | 17:21 |
| openstack | bug 968696 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) ""admin"-ness not properly scoped" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/968696 - Assigned to Adam Young (ayoung) | 17:21 |
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| rj2083 | regardless of what it defers to or calls ono the back end | 17:21 |
| rj2083 | none of the tests even need to be changed for this | 17:21 |
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| ayoung | rj2083, one of the big things is to defing the RBAC tests in terms of the APIs instead of the oslo-policy rules | 17:21 |
| andreaf | jordanP, ayoung: well with Tempest we need to ensure backward compatibility on APIs, so if some API exists which is wrong today, we still need to ensure backward compatibility | 17:22 |
| ayoung | the apis are almost all speced out in the api-ref docs... | 17:22 |
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| rj2083 | that doesnt change the tests or how the spec is written though | 17:22 |
| andreaf | jordanP, ayoung: that said I don't think this will have impact on the APIs or on the end user directly, willit? | 17:22 |
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| rj2083 | and it doesnt invalidate or chanve any of the tests at all actualy | 17:22 |
| ayoung | andreaf, it should not. Just on how the tests are written | 17:22 |
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| ayoung | rj2083, it might | 17:23 |
| ayoung | rj2083, there is the case where a single policy rule might be enforcing on two or more APIs | 17:23 |
| rj2083 | how? | 17:23 |
| ayoung | or, conversley, a single API might end up calling into multiple policy rules | 17:23 |
| ayoung | both are possible with the existing code | 17:23 |
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| rj2083 | that happens already | 17:23 |
| ayoung | and short of a complete audit, we won't know which... | 17:23 |
| ayoung | right | 17:23 |
| rj2083 | and in actuality how does your spec change that? | 17:23 |
| ayoung | rj2083, yes | 17:24 |
| ayoung | rj2083, in my spec, the RBAC check is based on the URL, and executed prior to policy.json enforcement | 17:24 |
| rj2083 | i dont see anything in your spec regarding conslidation of rbac policies accross services | 17:24 |
| rj2083 | then your spec would require one service to talk to each other | 17:25 |
| andreaf | ayoung: so the main thing for me - from a QA PoV - is that we do not break existing users on APis | 17:25 |
| ayoung | rj2083, across services? The defaults are pretty much per service. | 17:25 |
| ayoung | andreaf, agreed | 17:25 |
| rj2083 | you were talking just now about services calling each other | 17:25 |
| ayoung | andreaf, the way my spec is slated to be implemented will have a no-effect until changes are actually made by the end user | 17:25 |
| rj2083 | that's too broad of a statement to base anything off of | 17:25 |
| ayoung | rj2083, not even there, you can have multiple policy enforcement points in the same API | 17:25 |
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| rj2083 | yes you can, but you should still have tests to ensure they're enforced | 17:26 |
| rj2083 | what youre saying right now changes nothing in patrole | 17:26 |
| rj2083 | or in this spec at all | 17:26 |
| rj2083 | if you don't want to change the default policies | 17:26 |
| rj2083 | no one is forcing you to run patrole tests | 17:26 |
| ayoung | rj2083, if you reread the details of this spec, you see that the tests are talking about testing policy, but switching roles | 17:26 |
| ayoung | that is what needs to change | 17:27 |
| rj2083 | switching roles is part of the setup for tests | 17:27 |
| rj2083 | not part of the crieteria for passing/failing the tests | 17:27 |
| andreaf | ayoung, rj2083: my proposal would be to revise the spec, and include in there what the tests will gating exactly, to make sure that we don't block development of the keystone spec, as long as the "do not break users" stays | 17:27 |
| ayoung | rj2083, then change the spec to be based on the URLs, and not the policy rules | 17:28 |
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| ayoung | @rbac_rule_validation.action( | 17:28 |
| ayoung | component="Compute", | 17:28 |
| ayoung | rule="compute_extension:services") | 17:28 |
| ayoung | should become | 17:28 |
| rj2083 | that's implied n the spec | 17:28 |
| andreaf | because that's not in the spec at the moment, so it's not clear what the tests would gate and how, and that's an important part of the story I think | 17:28 |
| rj2083 | that we wpon't be breaking user api flow | 17:28 |
| ayoung | @rbac_rule_validation.action( | 17:28 |
| ayoung | component="Compute", | 17:28 |
| ayoung | VERB="POST" URL="/v2/service/blah") | 17:28 |
| ayoung | and that is a perfectly find way to go about doing it | 17:29 |
| DavidPurcell | I think this is why Oomichi wanted Patrole as a separate plugin rather than part of Tempest. As it stands, it can be used by operators that want it (several LCOOs included). | 17:29 |
| rj2083 | right | 17:29 |
| ayoung | the thing that the policy approach does not provide is a way to match the URL to the policy rule. An end user knows the URL. Or can figure it out from the client, etc | 17:30 |
| jordanP | (lcoo == Large Contributing OpenStack Operators) | 17:30 |
| rj2083 | the action dictates the api route | 17:30 |
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| DavidPurcell | jordanP: Thanks :) | 17:30 |
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| ayoung | The other thing to be wary of is that, with RBAC, end users should be defining a larger set of Roles | 17:31 |
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| andreaf | ayoung, rj2083, DavidPurcell, jordanP: so can we agree on an update on the spec? | 17:31 |
| ayoung | the basic set we expect is to be: | 17:31 |
| rj2083 | no | 17:31 |
| rj2083 | spec is fine | 17:31 |
| rj2083 | no need to update | 17:31 |
| jordanP | I am not sure what to say, but at least we should wait :) | 17:31 |
| andreaf | we can clarify that such tests won't run in the integration gate | 17:31 |
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| ayoung | rj2083, spec needs to be updated | 17:31 |
| rj2083 | i see no valid use case to update it other than to state obvious things man | 17:31 |
| ayoung | do not do role checks against policuy rules | 17:31 |
| ayoung | you will lock us in to the existing set of roles | 17:31 |
| ayoung | and that is absolutelty wrong | 17:31 |
| rj2083 | no one's forcing a single set or exsiting roles | 17:32 |
| ayoung | There is exactly one role you can bank on | 17:32 |
| ayoung | and that is admin | 17:32 |
| ayoung | test RBAC against APIs, not policy rules | 17:32 |
| rj2083 | we're submitting changes to every project to make admin-ness properly scoped | 17:32 |
| rj2083 | the fact that admin is wehre it is today | 17:32 |
| rj2083 | is because patrole didnt exist before | 17:32 |
| rj2083 | and every large operator that's tried to do proper rbac | 17:32 |
| rj2083 | has given up because of exactly this | 17:33 |
| rj2083 | not because the policies weren't centralized | 17:33 |
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| rj2083 | but because changing them has no effect because admin is hardcoded into the code in some cases | 17:33 |
| ayoung | rj2083, heh | 17:33 |
| ayoung | you and I are tilting at the same windmills | 17:33 |
| ayoung | they are definietly GIANTS | 17:33 |
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| rj2083 | right | 17:34 |
| rj2083 | i agree | 17:34 |
| rj2083 | i just dont think the specs have anything to do with each other | 17:34 |
| rj2083 | and i've seen nothing here that chagnes that | 17:34 |
| andreaf | rj2083, ayoung: ok folks, I thing everyone had space to make their point, we should continue the discussion on an IRC channel or on the spec - or if needed take it to the mailing list | 17:34 |
| ayoung | OK...I'm gone for then next 2 weeks | 17:34 |
| rj2083 | i'll be on mailing list :) | 17:34 |
| rj2083 | hit me up lets talk | 17:34 |
| rj2083 | :) | 17:34 |
| andreaf | :) | 17:35 |
| DavidPurcell | same for this week, then I will likely be gone for a week. | 17:35 |
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| andreaf | we need to continue with the QA meeting with the 25min left, sorry to cut the discussion | 17:35 |
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| andreaf | I think a lot of folks will be away for some time now | 17:35 |
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| andreaf | #action rj2083 to write to the mailing list about RBAC testing | 17:36 |
| andreaf | ok anything else on specs? | 17:36 |
| jordanP | that would be great, because I have a hard time understanding what you're proposing, altough it's clear you don't agree with each other | 17:37 |
| andreaf | From my side I started again looking at #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/349730 - tempest stable fixtures | 17:37 |
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| jordanP | about it, there might be an alternative | 17:39 |
| jordanP | consistently use helpers method and the addCleanup mecanisms | 17:39 |
| andreaf | I'm writing a PoC using testresources as suggested by lifeless - I see some value in that but also some issues - in the next year I will ask folks for reviews so we can decide if to use testresources or class level fixtures (as originally in the spec) - but for now I don't have enough to ask for reviews | 17:39 |
| andreaf | jordanP: well what I was proposing there is to introduce an addCleanup that would work at class level | 17:40 |
| jordanP | ok, I guess having network and credentials fixtures at class level is the best option. But we shouldn"t write let's say a "server fixture" | 17:41 |
| andreaf | jordanP: but what lifeless tells me is that class level fixtures are evil, and we should just not use them, and instead use some mechanism like testresources to coordinate which resource needs to be refreshed / regenerated when | 17:41 |
| andreaf | jordanP: yeah | 17:41 |
| andreaf | jordanP: it | 17:41 |
| andreaf | it's mainly about creds and networks and perhaps keypairs and s-g | 17:42 |
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| andreaf | the other thing is that plugins really need that stuff in lib, so we need to change that code anyways to make it a valid stable interface | 17:42 |
| andreaf | I would like to decide either way and start the implementation before PTG | 17:42 |
| jordanP | ok, I would like the resulting choice to be simple | 17:43 |
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| andreaf | heh right | 17:43 |
| andreaf | ok I think we need to move on | 17:43 |
| andreaf | #topic Tempest | 17:43 |
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| andreaf | do we have an update on the bug triage? | 17:43 |
| rodrigods | yeah | 17:44 |
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| rodrigods | me and dmellado were taking a look on it | 17:44 |
| rodrigods | i've filled some stuff at https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tempest-weekly-bug-report | 17:44 |
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| rodrigods | since i'm kind of a noob in tempest, my approach was to take a look at old in progress bugs | 17:44 |
| rodrigods | and see what is clearly outdated | 17:44 |
| rodrigods | or invalid | 17:45 |
| rodrigods | there were a bunch of them where the target didn't even exist anymore | 17:45 |
| andreaf | nice | 17:45 |
| andreaf | I see the overall number is reduced very good #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tempest-weekly-bug-report | 17:46 |
| andreaf | thanks for that | 17:46 |
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| andreaf | rodrigods: did you have a chance to update the graph? #link https://github.com/oomichi/bug-counter#current-graph | 17:46 |
| rodrigods | andreaf, not yet | 17:47 |
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| andreaf | thanks rodrigods, dmellado for running the bug triage | 17:48 |
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| andreaf | anything else on Tempest? | 17:48 |
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| jordanP | I am working on Py3 compatibility | 17:48 |
| jordanP | we are almost there :) | 17:49 |
| andreaf | nice job! thank you | 17:49 |
| rodrigods | andreaf, np! :) | 17:49 |
| rodrigods | jordanP, ++ | 17:49 |
| jordanP | and we are almost finish with moving clients to lib/ | 17:49 |
| andreaf | do you have a topic for that? | 17:49 |
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| jordanP | no dedicated topic. A patch here: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413739/ | 17:49 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/413739/ | 17:50 |
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| jordanP | that's all for tempest I think :) | 17:51 |
| andreaf | One thing I wanted to mention is that I think we should avoid churn in code code, especially in the areas of network scenario tests and class hierachy - we want to tackle those issue directlty | 17:51 |
| andreaf | so I'm going to be -1 on most patches doing tiny little changes here and there unless they fix a bug or go in that direction | 17:51 |
| jordanP | that seems wise indeed | 17:52 |
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| andreaf | ok moving on... | 17:53 |
| andreaf | #topic DevStack + Grenade | 17:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "DevStack + Grenade (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:53 | |
| andreaf | #undo | 17:53 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic DevStack + Grenade | 17:53 |
| andreaf | oh one last thing on tempest | 17:53 |
| jordanP | I forgot to ask about the -ssh job... | 17:53 |
| andreaf | yeah | 17:53 |
| andreaf | so I added TLS on the -ssh job | 17:53 |
| jordanP | patch was merged ? | 17:54 |
| andreaf | the patch is merged now, so I think at this point we can let the periodic job check this over christmas | 17:54 |
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| andreaf | and in 2017 we can either make the job voting or add validation to the existing gate job dsvm-neutron-full | 17:54 |
| jordanP | then ? make the -ssh job voting or turns validation ON on the other jobs ? | 17:54 |
| jordanP | second option would be best imo | 17:55 |
| jordanP | problem is the -ssh job is used by many projects so we can't really remove it | 17:55 |
| andreaf | jordanP: yes but it will impact pretty much everyone - so maybe we can go through having it voting for a few weeks and them change the main job | 17:55 |
| andreaf | jordanP: it's only used by tempest, devstack and nova/neutron on experimental | 17:56 |
| andreaf | jordanP: we can leave the job there just take it out of check for tempest | 17:56 |
| jordanP | ok | 17:56 |
| andreaf | jordanP: but next year anyways | 17:56 |
| jordanP | yep | 17:57 |
| andreaf | #topic DevStack + Grenade | 17:57 |
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| mmedvede | hi, I maintain IBM PowerKVM CI. Are you ok if we enable the CI voting on devstack patches? | 17:57 |
| rodrigods | i have a review related to the PCI DSS tests | 17:57 |
| rodrigods | has already one +2 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377004/ | 17:57 |
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| andreaf | #topic open discussion | 17:57 |
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| mmedvede | so related to my question above: It has been stable and mostly agrees with jenkins http://i.imgur.com/Vi4IsqR.png | 17:58 |
| andreaf | mmedvede: sorry I can't answer that now | 17:58 |
| mmedvede | maybe not a good time to ask it (many are on vacation) | 17:58 |
| jordanP | yes, you may want to ask in January | 17:58 |
| mmedvede | ok | 17:58 |
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| andreaf | #action andreaf oomichi check IBM PowerKVM CI for devstack | 17:58 |
| andreaf | but yeah I would say next year would be better | 17:59 |
| andreaf | rodrigods: sure #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/377004/ needs reviews | 17:59 |
| rodrigods | thanks andreaf | 17:59 |
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| andreaf | ok we're almost at time - anything else anyone? | 18:00 |
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| andreaf | thanks for joining today, happy holiday season everyone | 18:00 |
| andreaf | #endmeeting | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 22 18:00:41 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-12-22-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-12-22-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2016/qa.2016-12-22-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
| jordanP | happy holidays | 18:00 |
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| rodrigods | o/ | 18:01 |
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| mriedem | #startmeeting nova | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Dec 22 21:00:11 2016 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:00 |
| mriedem | is there >= 1 person around? | 21:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 21:00 |
| mmedvede | o/ | 21:00 |
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| mriedem | i'll wait a couple of minutes for others to join | 21:01 |
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| mrda | o/ | 21:03 |
| mriedem | alright let's just get started | 21:03 |
| mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 21:03 |
| mriedem | #topic release news | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release news (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:03 | |
| mriedem | #link Ocata release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Ocata_Release_Schedule | 21:03 |
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| mriedem | #info Jan 19: final non-client library release (oslo) | 21:04 |
| mriedem | if you have blueprints that depend on oslo library changes those need to be in the libraries and released by 1/19 | 21:04 |
| mriedem | #info Jan 26: o-3 milestone, final python-novaclient release, FeatureFreeze, Soft StringFreeze | 21:04 |
| mriedem | so we have ~4 weeks to get remaining blueprints in | 21:05 |
| mriedem | #link Ocata blueprints https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/ocata | 21:05 |
| mriedem | #info 69 total blueprints, 13 implemented, 9 not started, 38 need code review | 21:05 |
| mriedem | so pretty slow progress there on getting bps merged, | 21:05 |
| mriedem | i suspect some of that is due to long-tails on the priority efforts chewing up a lot of review time | 21:05 |
| mriedem | a lot of people are out next week too so that doesn't help | 21:06 |
| mriedem | any questions on the release? | 21:06 |
| mriedem | #topic bugs | 21:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:06 | |
| mriedem | no critical bugs | 21:06 |
| mriedem | #link check queue gate status http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/index.html | 21:06 |
| mrda | Hopefully everyone comes back refreshed from the break :) | 21:06 |
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| mriedem | mrda: the break is generally counter-productive, at least for me | 21:07 |
| mrda | well, for everyone else :) | 21:07 |
| mriedem | 3rd party ci status, vmware said they have theirs running again, | 21:07 |
| mriedem | and BobBall was investigating getting the xenserver ci voting again | 21:07 |
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| mriedem | #topic reminders | 21:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:08 | |
| mriedem | #link Ocata review priorities https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-priorities-tracking | 21:08 |
| mriedem | #topic Stable branch status: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker | 21:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Stable branch status: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/stable-tracker (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:08 | |
| mriedem | #info newton 14.0.3 is released | 21:08 |
| mriedem | ^ happened last week | 21:08 |
| mriedem | otherwise there are stable/newton changes up for review | 21:09 |
| mriedem | #topic subteam highlights | 21:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "subteam highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:09 | |
| mriedem | there was no cells v2 meeting, those will resume in january | 21:09 |
| mriedem | edleafe-: was there a scheduler meeting this week? | 21:09 |
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| mriedem | jaypipes: ^? | 21:09 |
| mriedem | some notes for the scheduler / placement work, i'd like to see this series move forward https://review.openstack.org/#/c/398470/ | 21:10 |
| mriedem | as in needs another core | 21:10 |
| jaypipes | mriedem: no sched meeting no | 21:10 |
| mriedem | i think the next big change to get in for placement is https://review.openstack.org/#/c/392569/ | 21:11 |
| mriedem | which the scheduler can then use | 21:11 |
| mriedem | i know jay has been through it | 21:11 |
| jaypipes | yup. | 21:11 |
| jaypipes | I kinda authored that so I'm reluctant to +W it... | 21:11 |
| mriedem | i still need to go through it | 21:12 |
| mriedem | tdurakov: was there a live migration meeting this week? | 21:12 |
| mriedem | pkoniszewski: ^? | 21:12 |
| mriedem | #action mriedem to get a hold of tdurakov to roll up some status from the live migration subteam into the dev ML | 21:13 |
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| mriedem | alex_xu: are you around? | 21:13 |
| mriedem | i believe there was an API subteam meeting today | 21:13 |
| mriedem | but i don't think anyone is around to report on it | 21:13 |
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| mriedem | my main focus for the api subteam right now is getting https://review.openstack.org/#/c/393205/ approved | 21:14 |
| mriedem | i went through that this morning and had several comments/questoins | 21:14 |
| mriedem | *questions | 21:14 |
| mriedem | otherwise alex_xu has patches up for query parameter validation | 21:14 |
| mriedem | those patches start here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/389003/20 | 21:14 |
| mriedem | lbeliveau: was there an sriov/pci meeting this week? | 21:15 |
| mriedem | i noticed the pci whitelist regex patch merged, we just need a release note for that | 21:15 |
| mriedem | i've emailed moshele asking for the release note | 21:15 |
| mriedem | there was no versioned notifications meeting this week, those resume in january | 21:15 |
| mriedem | #topic stuck reviews | 21:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stuck reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:16 | |
| mriedem | there was nothing on the agenda, anything anyone needs to bring up here? | 21:16 |
| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 21:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:16 | |
| mriedem | nothing on the agenda - anything anyone wants to bring up? | 21:16 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:16 |
| mmedvede | I'd like to ask on voting permission on | 21:16 |
| Vek | Have a happy holidays? | 21:16 |
| mmedvede | IBM PowerKVM CI | 21:17 |
| mmedvede | mriedem: last time I asked, we did not switch to neutron yet. Now we have, and it have been stable mostly | 21:17 |
| mriedem | mmedvede: ok, i think we could do that | 21:17 |
| mriedem | i haven't noticed any issues with the pkvm ci | 21:18 |
| mriedem | #action mriedem to make the powerkvm 3rd party ci voting | 21:18 |
| mmedvede | we are normally fast to react/disable reporting if any issues arise | 21:18 |
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| mriedem | ok | 21:18 |
| mriedem | i'm fast to bludgeon those that aren't :) | 21:18 |
| mmedvede | hehe | 21:18 |
| dtp | lol | 21:18 |
| Vek | heh | 21:18 |
| mriedem | i'll be around next week so will probably have a meeting, just in case anyone is around | 21:19 |
| mriedem | and probably roll up some current status for ocata into the ML | 21:19 |
| mriedem | otherwise have a good break for everyone that's out next week and see you next year | 21:19 |
| mmedvede | +1 | 21:19 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 21:19 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Dec 22 21:19:47 2016 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:19 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-12-22-21.00.html | 21:19 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-12-22-21.00.txt | 21:19 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2016/nova.2016-12-22-21.00.log.html | 21:19 |
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