Thursday, 2017-01-19

*** Patifa has quit IRC00:00
ekcstime for congress meeting. ramineni_ thinrichs masahito aimeeu00:01
thinrichsekcs: hi!00:01
ekcs#startmeeting congressteammeeting00:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 19 00:01:32 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.00:01
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: congressteammeeting)"00:01
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting'00:01
ekcshi thinrichs ramineni_ !00:01
aimeeugreeting all00:02
ekcswelcome back everyone!00:02
*** DinaBelova has joined #openstack-meeting00:02
*** aignatov has joined #openstack-meeting00:02
ekcsonly items I have in mind are talking about ocata-3.00:03
*** rbak has quit IRC00:03
*** NikitaKonovalov has joined #openstack-meeting00:03
ekcsOcata-3 outstanding patches00:03
ekcsOcata-3 outstanding/new bugs00:03
ekcsanything else on our minds?00:03
aimeeuetherpad for PTG planning?00:03
*** freerunner has joined #openstack-meeting00:03
*** masahito has joined #openstack-meeting00:03
*** SergeyLukjanov has joined #openstack-meeting00:04
masahitohi all.00:04
*** bryan_att has joined #openstack-meeting00:04
ekcshi masahito00:04
ekcsaimeeu: ok.00:05
bryan_atthi all, bryan_att lurking00:05
ekcshi bryan_att !00:05
*** david-lyle has quit IRC00:05
ekcsok let’s dive in then.00:06
ekcs#topic etherpad for PTG planning00:06
*** openstack changes topic to "etherpad for PTG planning (Meeting topic: congressteammeeting)"00:06
ekcsSo aimeeu I’m guessing what you mean is putting an etherpad in place so people can start putting down ideas and thoughts in PTG planning?00:06
aimeeuyes exactly00:06
aimeeuand then adding the link here: #link
ekcsok great I can do that after the meeting00:08
ekcs#action ekcs add PTG planning etherpad00:09
aimeeuekcs: thanks loads!00:09
ekcsthanks for the minder!00:09
ekcsmoving on then.00:09
ekcs#topic Ocata-3 outstanding patches00:09
*** openstack changes topic to "Ocata-3 outstanding patches (Meeting topic: congressteammeeting)"00:09
ekcsjust for background, Ocata-3 is due next week. Testing is underway.00:10
ekcswe did a good job of getting patches in for review last week, but we still have a few outstanding patches unmerged.00:10
*** jkilpatr has joined #openstack-meeting00:10
ekcs(anything else?)00:11
ekcsI figure we can talk about whether we can/want to merge them quickly.00:11
*** yangyape_ has quit IRC00:11
*** krtaylor has joined #openstack-meeting00:12
thinrichs606 and 653 look about ready to me.  Just a bug fix in 606, and then it and the dependent 653 can go in.00:12
thinrichsShould be a quick fix.00:12
thinrichs705 looks to be waiting on @masahito to answer the question: is this patch good enough for now?00:14
*** kylek3h has joined #openstack-meeting00:14
ekcsthinrichs: makes sense.00:14
masahitothinrichs: I'll check it today.00:15
*** jdurgin has quit IRC00:15
thinrichs777 I haven't looked at in depth.  Only @masahito has.  And it's somewhat thorny.  If @masahito thinks its ready, fine with me.00:15
thinrichsramineni_: does your client patch need to go in?  Or is it too late for that?00:17
*** hongbin has quit IRC00:18
masahitothinrichs: And the comment for 606 is that the json module can load rule string from json data if it's surrounded by double-quota.00:19
thinrichsmasahito: It's that the policy language ONLY supports double-quotes.00:19
thinrichsSo you can write p("abc") but not p('abc')00:19
ramineni_thinrichs: is client release done?? It's a simple patch , but not very imp ...As we have alternate way to do it too .. so either way should be fine00:20
ekcsramineni_: client release not yet done. plan to do next week concurrently with ocata-3.00:20
masahitothinrichs: when I use congress client, it works with single client.00:20
thinrichsmasahito: You can insert p('abc') ?00:21
ramineni_ekcs: ok00:21
masahitothinrichs: yes00:21
thinrichsThat's surprising.  Maybe we added Python-like string handling.00:22
masahitothe client changed single quote to double quote in it.00:22
*** X-dark has quit IRC00:22
ekcsinteresting it seems to convert to double quotes.00:23
ekcs$ openstack congress policy rule create action "p('abc')"00:23
masahitothen it calls API with p("abc").00:23
ekcs| Field   | Value                                |00:23
*** X-dark has joined #openstack-meeting00:23
ekcs| comment |                                      |00:23
ekcs| id      | d1a4c333-a71d-4f49-8fa8-c42abadea41c |00:23
ekcs| name    | None                                 |00:23
ekcs| rule    | p("abc")                             |00:23
thinrichsLooking at the grammar, any Python string should work.  Forgot about that.00:23
thinrichsWhen we are printing out the rule we always use double-quotes.00:24
masahitoI think there're two option.00:24
thinrichsmasahito: then the comment in the 606 should be: have you tested the code with p("abc") AND p('abc')?00:25
masahitothinrichs: p("abc") in json file doesn't work00:26
masahitobecause json module thinks "rule": "p("abc")" is "rule": "p(" and abc")"00:26
thinrichsWhat if someone escaped the quotes, such as "rule": "p(\"abc\")"?  That would be valid JSON (I think).00:27
*** kaisers has joined #openstack-meeting00:27
masahitothinrichs: this works.00:27
thinrichsOkay, then it's fine as is I'd say.00:28
masahitomy another idea is using yaml file instead of json00:28
*** bobh has quit IRC00:28
thinrichsWe could always change it over to yaml later, but leaving it as JSON lets us get the functionality into ocata300:28
thinrichsI'd say we can merge those 2 right away.00:29
ekcsok then!00:30
*** jdurgin has joined #openstack-meeting00:32
ekcsramineni_: what do you think about ?00:32
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting00:32
ekcsit looks fine to me. a little strange that we’re going to have failing osc test from now on.00:32
ekcsit’s required to support horizon getting subscribers?00:32
thinrichsSorry—one sec.  Just saw Aimee's comments on 653.00:33
*** Swami has joined #openstack-meeting00:33
aimeeuthinrichs: I answered my own question00:34
ramineni_ekcs: no ..It's not required for subscribers patch00:34
thinrichsaimeeu: ok.  So that's ready to go in?00:34
aimeeuyes absolutely00:34
ramineni_ekcs ..but osc plugin failure is not related to the patch right00:35
*** sacharya has quit IRC00:35
ekcsramineni_: I was just guessing that osc failure has to do with what Tim said about adding command to osc dir. Maybe not.00:36
*** alij has quit IRC00:36
ramineni_ekcs: no , but will check again00:37
ekcsso on , if someone has time to take a look I’d love to get that merged in order to maximize the testing on it.00:38
ekcsbut since it’s not a new feature, it technically could wait till after O3 release.00:39
*** thorst has joined #openstack-meeting00:39
ekcsramineni_: ok sorry I’m a little slow on this.00:41
ekcsnvm let’s move on I’ll catch up on it (the client patch) after.00:42
ekcsany other thoughts about the patches before we move on?00:42
*** thorst has quit IRC00:42
*** masayukig_ is now known as masayukig00:43
ekcs#topic Ocata-3 outstanding/new bugs00:43
*** openstack changes topic to "Ocata-3 outstanding/new bugs (Meeting topic: congressteammeeting)"00:43
ekcsok does anyone have new/outstanding bugs we should look at ?00:45
ekcseither to be fixed by ocata-3 or shortly after. probably good to triage the bugs before ocata-3 to understand if they are fixable once restrictions kick in post O3.00:45
thinrichsNothing from me00:47
ekcs#link here’s the current bugs list with “new” on top. haha kind of annoying that tasks are mixed in with actual bugs.00:48
ekcsI’ve encountered a couple new bugs, but nothing that seems to be deep, hard-to-fix things. mostly on the periphery like DSD interfaces.00:50
ekcsso i’m adding them as I see them.00:50
ekcsramineni_: I noticed the same bug you registered back in september. #link
openstackLaunchpad bug 1626821 in congress "swift driver fails with authorization issue while polling" [Undecided,Invalid]00:51
ekcsany idea why it shows up only on infra dsvm test but not locally?00:51
ekcs Trying to figure out if we need to dig into it or it doesn’t matter.00:52
*** sdague has quit IRC00:52
*** harlowja has joined #openstack-meeting00:52
ramineni_ekcs: ya ..I remember debugging it before ..But it works all fine in local environment ..00:53
ramineni_And on gate too it's temporary00:53
ekcsanyway we have 8 minutes left. let’s go to open discussion. where we can still continue discussing bugs.00:53
ekcs#topic open discussion00:53
*** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: congressteammeeting)"00:53
ramineni_Did u see the error in local environment too?00:53
ekcsbut feel free to throw out anything else.00:53
ekcsramineni_: no I didn’t see it locally either. I haven’t tested locally on xenial tho. thinking I should probably do that. cuz it could be a trusty vs xenial thing.00:54
*** kaisers has quit IRC00:54
ekcsramineni_: do you test on trusty or xenial?00:54
ramineni_I think gate also on trusty at that time00:55
ekcsramineni_: hmm ok. well I guess we should test on xenial anyway so we’ll see what happens.00:55
*** dimtruck is now known as zz_dimtruck00:59
ekcsok well thanks all! have a good week and let’s have a great Ocata-3 release!00:59
thinrichsThanks all!00:59
masahitoThanks all00:59
ekcssee you all later!00:59
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings ||"01:00
openstackMeeting ended Thu Jan 19 01:00:14 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at . (v 0.1.4)01:00
openstackMinutes (text):
*** zhurong has joined #openstack-meeting01:00
*** thinrichs has left #openstack-meeting01:02
*** zhhuabj has quit IRC01:03
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting01:05
*** fnaval has quit IRC01:06
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting01:06
*** alij has quit IRC01:07
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting01:08
*** diablo_rojo_phon has quit IRC01:10
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC01:10
*** yamamoto_ has joined #openstack-meeting01:10
*** thorst has joined #openstack-meeting01:11
*** thorst has quit IRC01:11
*** yamamoto_ has quit IRC01:12
*** alij has quit IRC01:12
*** zz_dimtruck is now known as dimtruck01:13
*** yamamoto_ has joined #openstack-meeting01:13
*** gongysh has joined #openstack-meeting01:14
*** kevinz has joined #openstack-meeting01:14
*** zhhuabj has joined #openstack-meeting01:15
*** bobmel has joined #openstack-meeting01:15
*** lblanchard has joined #openstack-meeting01:18
*** bobmel has quit IRC01:19
*** Swami has quit IRC01:23
*** yamamoto_ has quit IRC01:23
*** mtanino has quit IRC01:24
*** saju_m has quit IRC01:27
*** adiantum has quit IRC01:27
*** yamamoto_ has joined #openstack-meeting01:27
*** kjorgens_ has quit IRC01:29
*** csomerville has quit IRC01:29
*** yamamoto_ has quit IRC01:29
*** yamamoto_ has joined #openstack-meeting01:31
*** yamamoto_ has quit IRC01:34
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-meeting01:37
*** yangyapeng has joined #openstack-meeting01:37
*** yangyapeng has quit IRC01:37
*** yamamoto_ has joined #openstack-meeting01:38
*** kjorgensen has joined #openstack-meeting01:38
*** sdake has quit IRC01:38
*** kjorgensen has quit IRC01:39
*** kjorgensen has joined #openstack-meeting01:39
*** yangyapeng has joined #openstack-meeting01:39
*** gongysh has quit IRC01:40
*** julim has joined #openstack-meeting01:41
*** gongysh has joined #openstack-meeting01:42
*** gongysh has quit IRC01:42
*** kjorgensen has quit IRC01:43
*** sacharya has joined #openstack-meeting01:46
*** lhx__ has joined #openstack-meeting01:46
*** yamamoto_ has quit IRC01:49
*** gongysh has joined #openstack-meeting01:50
*** kaisers has joined #openstack-meeting01:50
*** yamamoto_ has joined #openstack-meeting01:51
*** yonglihe has joined #openstack-meeting01:52
*** gongysh has quit IRC01:53
*** lhx_ has joined #openstack-meeting01:53
*** lhx__ has quit IRC01:54
*** baoli has quit IRC01:55
*** yamamoto_ has quit IRC01:57
*** yamamoto_ has joined #openstack-meeting01:58
*** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting01:59
*** kenji-i has joined #openstack-meeting02:03
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting02:06
*** unicell has quit IRC02:08
*** yamamoto_ has quit IRC02:09
*** VW has joined #openstack-meeting02:09
*** yamamoto_ has joined #openstack-meeting02:10
*** kaisers_ has joined #openstack-meeting02:10
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC02:11
*** kaisers has quit IRC02:13
*** gcb has joined #openstack-meeting02:14
*** thorst has joined #openstack-meeting02:15
*** kjorgensen has joined #openstack-meeting02:18
*** llu has joined #openstack-meeting02:18
*** kaisers_ has quit IRC02:18
*** thorst has quit IRC02:20
*** kjorgensen has quit IRC02:22
*** yamamoto_ has quit IRC02:24
*** yamamoto_ has joined #openstack-meeting02:25
*** masahito has quit IRC02:26
*** ihrachys has quit IRC02:31
*** huanxuan has joined #openstack-meeting02:32
*** sacharya_ has joined #openstack-meeting02:33
*** links has joined #openstack-meeting02:33
*** kylek3h_ has joined #openstack-meeting02:33
*** betherly_ has joined #openstack-meeting02:34
*** izaakk_ has joined #openstack-meeting02:34
*** sridhar_ram_ has joined #openstack-meeting02:34
*** larainema_ has joined #openstack-meeting02:34
*** gouthamr_ has joined #openstack-meeting02:35
*** darrenc_ has joined #openstack-meeting02:35
*** hwoarang_ has joined #openstack-meeting02:36
*** dewanee_ has joined #openstack-meeting02:36
*** dosaboy_ has joined #openstack-meeting02:37
*** shu-mutou has joined #openstack-meeting02:37
*** Kiall has joined #openstack-meeting02:37
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting02:38
*** cjmarti has joined #openstack-meeting02:38
*** gus__ has joined #openstack-meeting02:38
*** pkoniszewski_ has joined #openstack-meeting02:39
*** tris- has joined #openstack-meeting02:40
*** zul has quit IRC02:40
*** mtreinish_ has joined #openstack-meeting02:41
*** tlbr_ has joined #openstack-meeting02:41
*** sacharya has quit IRC02:41
*** kylek3h has quit IRC02:41
*** krtaylor has quit IRC02:41
*** jkilpatr has quit IRC02:41
*** larainema has quit IRC02:41
*** gouthamr has quit IRC02:41
*** dpaterson has quit IRC02:41
*** briancurtin has quit IRC02:41
*** hwoarang has quit IRC02:41
*** sankarshan has quit IRC02:41
*** manikanta_tadi has quit IRC02:41
*** castulo has quit IRC02:41
*** dtrainor has quit IRC02:41
*** haleyb has quit IRC02:41
*** Cibo has quit IRC02:41
*** pkoniszewski has quit IRC02:41
*** dewanee has quit IRC02:41
*** sridhar_ram has quit IRC02:41
*** izaakk has quit IRC02:41
*** jesusaur has quit IRC02:41
*** darrenc has quit IRC02:41
*** gus has quit IRC02:41
*** betherly has quit IRC02:41
*** tris has quit IRC02:41
*** Guest87200 has quit IRC02:41
*** vkramskikh has quit IRC02:41
*** tlbr has quit IRC02:41
*** mtreinish has quit IRC02:41
*** dosaboy has quit IRC02:41
*** mtreinish_ is now known as mtreinish02:41
*** cjmarti is now known as castulo02:41
*** sankarshan has joined #openstack-meeting02:42
*** larainema_ is now known as larainema02:42
*** izaakk_ is now known as izaakk02:42
*** tris- is now known as tris02:42
*** sridhar_ram_ is now known as sridhar_ram02:43
*** betherly_ is now known as betherly02:43
*** gouthamr_ is now known as gouthamr02:44
*** alij has quit IRC02:44
*** sankarshan has quit IRC02:44
*** sankarshan has joined #openstack-meeting02:44
*** yarkot has quit IRC02:44
*** alpha_ori has quit IRC02:44
*** s3wong has quit IRC02:44
*** zul has joined #openstack-meeting02:44
*** fzdarsky_ has joined #openstack-meeting02:45
*** alpha_ori has joined #openstack-meeting02:47
*** manikanta_tadi has joined #openstack-meeting02:48
*** bobmel has joined #openstack-meeting02:48
*** dtrainor has joined #openstack-meeting02:49
*** fzdarsky has quit IRC02:49
*** Cibo has joined #openstack-meeting02:49
*** yarkot has joined #openstack-meeting02:50
*** jkilpatr has joined #openstack-meeting02:50
*** krtaylor has joined #openstack-meeting02:50
*** haleyb has joined #openstack-meeting02:50
*** bkopilov_ has quit IRC02:50
*** jesusaur has joined #openstack-meeting02:50
*** bkopilov has quit IRC02:51
*** lblanchard has quit IRC02:51
*** lblanchard has joined #openstack-meeting02:51
*** lblanchard has quit IRC02:52
*** bobmel has quit IRC02:52
*** sdake has joined #openstack-meeting02:54
*** kjorgensen has joined #openstack-meeting02:54
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-meeting02:56
*** markvoelker has quit IRC02:56
*** vishnoianil has quit IRC02:56
*** kjorgensen has quit IRC02:58
*** hongbin has joined #openstack-meeting02:59
*** yamamoto_ has quit IRC03:01
*** bobh has joined #openstack-meeting03:01
*** yamamoto_ has joined #openstack-meeting03:02
*** ihrachys has quit IRC03:06
*** iyamahat has quit IRC03:09
*** ramineni_ has quit IRC03:09
*** iyamahat_ has joined #openstack-meeting03:09
*** vkramskikh has joined #openstack-meeting03:09
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting03:09
*** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting03:10
*** Apoorva has quit IRC03:10
*** sdake has quit IRC03:13
*** alij has quit IRC03:14
*** sdake has joined #openstack-meeting03:15
*** woodster_ has quit IRC03:15
*** ekcs has quit IRC03:17
*** ijw has quit IRC03:23
*** yangyapeng has quit IRC03:23
*** yangyapeng has joined #openstack-meeting03:23
*** dpaterson has joined #openstack-meeting03:24
*** yamahata has quit IRC03:24
*** iyamahat_ has quit IRC03:25
*** thorst has joined #openstack-meeting03:30
*** epico has joined #openstack-meeting03:32
*** zhurong has quit IRC03:34
*** jaypipes has joined #openstack-meeting03:34
*** dmorita_ has joined #openstack-meeting03:34
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-meeting03:35
*** thorst has quit IRC03:36
*** dmorita has quit IRC03:37
*** VW has quit IRC03:38
*** galstrom is now known as galstrom_zzz03:39
*** dmacpher has quit IRC03:55
*** sacharya_ has quit IRC03:57
*** yamamot__ has joined #openstack-meeting03:58
*** yamamoto_ has quit IRC04:01
*** ricolin has joined #openstack-meeting04:02
*** ricolin has quit IRC04:02
*** r-mibu has quit IRC04:03
*** ayoung has quit IRC04:03
*** edtubill has joined #openstack-meeting04:04
*** zhangshuai has quit IRC04:04
*** zhangshuai has joined #openstack-meeting04:04
*** ihrachys has quit IRC04:06
*** sdake has quit IRC04:06
*** galstrom_zzz is now known as galstrom04:07
*** sdake has joined #openstack-meeting04:07
*** sudipto_ has joined #openstack-meeting04:07
*** sudipto has joined #openstack-meeting04:07
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting04:07
*** dmacpher has joined #openstack-meeting04:09
*** bobh has quit IRC04:09
*** kevinz has quit IRC04:10
*** kevinz has joined #openstack-meeting04:10
*** ijw has joined #openstack-meeting04:11
*** galstrom is now known as galstrom_zzz04:11
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC04:11
*** janki has joined #openstack-meeting04:13
*** hongbin has quit IRC04:13
*** bkopilov has joined #openstack-meeting04:14
*** bkopilov_ has joined #openstack-meeting04:14
*** kaisers has joined #openstack-meeting04:14
*** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting04:15
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting04:17
*** edtubill has quit IRC04:21
*** Apoorva has joined #openstack-meeting04:21
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-meeting04:22
*** hongbin has joined #openstack-meeting04:22
*** alij has quit IRC04:22
*** lhx_ has quit IRC04:23
*** Apoorva_ has joined #openstack-meeting04:27
*** Apoorva has quit IRC04:30
*** briancurtin has joined #openstack-meeting04:31
*** Apoorva_ has quit IRC04:33
*** absubram has joined #openstack-meeting04:33
*** gongysh has joined #openstack-meeting04:33
*** r-mibu has joined #openstack-meeting04:33
*** thorst has joined #openstack-meeting04:33
*** dmorita_ has quit IRC04:35
*** armax has quit IRC04:36
*** thorst has quit IRC04:38
*** Sukhdev has joined #openstack-meeting04:41
*** anilvenkata has joined #openstack-meeting04:41
*** gongysh has quit IRC04:42
*** xiaofandh12 has joined #openstack-meeting04:42
*** kaisers has quit IRC04:42
*** dimtruck is now known as zz_dimtruck04:43
*** donghao has quit IRC04:45
*** bobmel has joined #openstack-meeting04:49
*** sudipto_ has quit IRC04:49
*** sudipto has quit IRC04:49
*** krtaylor has quit IRC04:52
*** bobmel has quit IRC04:53
*** korzen has joined #openstack-meeting04:53
*** megm has quit IRC04:54
*** sdake_ has joined #openstack-meeting04:56
*** sacharya has joined #openstack-meeting04:57
*** megm has joined #openstack-meeting04:57
*** sdake has quit IRC04:59
*** absubram has quit IRC05:03
*** sacharya has quit IRC05:03
*** hongbin has quit IRC05:05
*** cody-somerville has joined #openstack-meeting05:07
*** cody-somerville has quit IRC05:07
*** cody-somerville has joined #openstack-meeting05:07
*** cody-somerville has quit IRC05:09
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting05:15
*** alij has quit IRC05:20
*** adisky_ has joined #openstack-meeting05:23
*** zhhuabj has quit IRC05:25
*** sudipto has joined #openstack-meeting05:27
*** sudipto_ has joined #openstack-meeting05:27
*** diablo_rojo has quit IRC05:27
*** gongysh has joined #openstack-meeting05:31
*** ayogi has joined #openstack-meeting05:32
*** lhx_ has joined #openstack-meeting05:38
*** kaisers has joined #openstack-meeting05:39
*** ijw has quit IRC05:43
*** zhhuabj has joined #openstack-meeting05:44
*** cody-somerville has joined #openstack-meeting05:45
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting05:46
*** sdake_ has quit IRC05:47
*** nadya has joined #openstack-meeting05:48
*** alij has quit IRC05:51
*** bobmel has joined #openstack-meeting05:51
*** kaisers has quit IRC05:52
*** kaisers has joined #openstack-meeting05:52
*** kaisers has quit IRC05:52
*** kaisers has joined #openstack-meeting05:53
*** nadya has quit IRC05:53
*** baoli has quit IRC05:54
*** bobmel has quit IRC05:56
*** kaisers has quit IRC05:58
*** sacharya has joined #openstack-meeting05:58
*** unicell has joined #openstack-meeting05:59
*** ekcs has joined #openstack-meeting06:00
*** ihrachys has quit IRC06:00
*** rbudden has quit IRC06:02
*** iyamahat has joined #openstack-meeting06:03
*** sacharya has quit IRC06:03
*** gouthamr has quit IRC06:04
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting06:08
*** ykatabam has quit IRC06:08
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting06:08
*** alij has quit IRC06:09
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting06:09
*** cody-somerville has quit IRC06:12
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC06:13
*** dmacpher has quit IRC06:16
*** HeOS has joined #openstack-meeting06:16
*** cody-somerville has joined #openstack-meeting06:17
*** kaisers has joined #openstack-meeting06:23
*** yamahata has joined #openstack-meeting06:26
*** Apoorva has joined #openstack-meeting06:28
*** kaisers has quit IRC06:28
*** amotoki has quit IRC06:28
*** dmacpher has joined #openstack-meeting06:28
*** amotoki has joined #openstack-meeting06:28
*** Apoorva_ has joined #openstack-meeting06:31
*** iyamahat has quit IRC06:31
*** Apoorva_ has quit IRC06:33
*** dmacpher has quit IRC06:33
*** thorst has joined #openstack-meeting06:34
*** Apoorva has quit IRC06:34
*** dmorita has joined #openstack-meeting06:35
*** alij has quit IRC06:36
*** thorst has quit IRC06:39
*** dmorita has quit IRC06:39
*** hejiawei has quit IRC06:40
*** zhurong has joined #openstack-meeting07:07
*** lpetrut has joined #openstack-meeting07:08
*** Dmitrii-Sh has joined #openstack-meeting07:16
*** rajinir has quit IRC07:16
*** jprovazn has joined #openstack-meeting07:17
*** kjorgensen has joined #openstack-meeting07:18
*** iyamahat has joined #openstack-meeting07:19
*** kjorgensen has quit IRC07:22
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting07:23
*** hashar has joined #openstack-meeting07:23
*** eranrom has quit IRC07:23
*** kaisers has joined #openstack-meeting07:24
*** iyamahat has quit IRC07:25
*** kaisers has quit IRC07:26
*** kaisers has joined #openstack-meeting07:26
*** sridharg has joined #openstack-meeting07:27
*** alij has quit IRC07:28
*** simon-AS559 has joined #openstack-meeting07:34
*** andreas_s has joined #openstack-meeting07:34
*** yuval has joined #openstack-meeting07:38
*** ekcs has quit IRC07:39
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting07:46
*** X-dark_ has joined #openstack-meeting07:46
*** rbartal has joined #openstack-meeting07:48
*** X-dark has quit IRC07:48
*** X-dark_ is now known as X-dark07:48
*** alij has quit IRC07:50
*** abalutoiu_ has quit IRC07:51
*** bobmel has joined #openstack-meeting07:52
*** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting07:54
*** lpetrut has quit IRC07:54
*** matrohon has joined #openstack-meeting07:55
*** apetrich has quit IRC07:58
*** rasca has joined #openstack-meeting07:58
*** bobmel has quit IRC07:59
*** sacharya has joined #openstack-meeting08:00
*** zhhuabj has quit IRC08:00
*** abalutoiu_ has joined #openstack-meeting08:04
*** lpetrut has joined #openstack-meeting08:04
*** huanxuan has quit IRC08:04
*** sacharya has quit IRC08:06
*** lbrune has joined #openstack-meeting08:07
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting08:08
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting08:09
*** alij has quit IRC08:11
*** tesseract has joined #openstack-meeting08:13
*** guyr-infinidat has joined #openstack-meeting08:14
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC08:14
*** padkrish has joined #openstack-meeting08:14
*** e0ne has quit IRC08:16
*** ociuhandu has quit IRC08:18
*** ralonsoh has joined #openstack-meeting08:25
*** lpetrut has quit IRC08:26
*** hashar is now known as hasharAway08:28
*** korzen has quit IRC08:34
*** thorst has joined #openstack-meeting08:35
*** zhurong has quit IRC08:35
*** thorst has quit IRC08:39
*** ykatabam has joined #openstack-meeting08:41
*** Sukhdev has quit IRC08:43
*** saju_m has joined #openstack-meeting08:45
*** kaisers has quit IRC08:46
*** kaisers has joined #openstack-meeting08:46
*** number80 has quit IRC08:48
*** abalutoiu_ has quit IRC08:49
*** abalutoiu_ has joined #openstack-meeting08:50
*** jprovazn has quit IRC08:52
*** snuffkin has joined #openstack-meeting08:54
*** number80 has joined #openstack-meeting08:57
*** edisonxiang has left #openstack-meeting08:57
*** shu-mutou is now known as shu-mutou-AWAY08:59
*** toscalix has joined #openstack-meeting08:59
*** jprovazn has joined #openstack-meeting09:03
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting09:03
*** zeih has joined #openstack-meeting09:04
*** ociuhandu has joined #openstack-meeting09:08
*** hasharAway is now known as hashar09:14
*** abalutoiu__ has joined #openstack-meeting09:17
*** abalutoiu_ has quit IRC09:20
*** pnavarro has joined #openstack-meeting09:20
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting09:21
*** nadya has joined #openstack-meeting09:22
*** adiantum has joined #openstack-meeting09:25
*** padkrish has quit IRC09:25
*** yonglihe has quit IRC09:27
*** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting09:30
*** abalutoiu_ has joined #openstack-meeting09:30
*** abalutoiu__ has quit IRC09:34
*** zhonghua has quit IRC09:40
*** zhonghua has joined #openstack-meeting09:40
*** adiantum has quit IRC09:41
*** adiantum1 has joined #openstack-meeting09:41
*** yamahata has quit IRC09:41
*** HeOS has quit IRC09:42
*** HeOS has joined #openstack-meeting09:43
*** adiantum1 is now known as adiantum09:43
*** yamamot__ has quit IRC09:44
*** akuznetsova has quit IRC09:44
*** korzen has joined #openstack-meeting09:44
*** akuznetsova has joined #openstack-meeting09:48
*** mickeys has quit IRC09:52
*** rossella_s has joined #openstack-meeting09:52
*** alij has quit IRC09:55
*** bobmel has joined #openstack-meeting09:56
*** bobmel has quit IRC10:01
*** nadya has quit IRC10:02
*** lpetrut has joined #openstack-meeting10:03
*** yangyapeng has quit IRC10:06
*** priteau has joined #openstack-meeting10:08
*** sambetts|afk is now known as sambetts10:17
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting10:18
*** sdake has joined #openstack-meeting10:18
*** alij has quit IRC10:23
*** salv-orl_ has joined #openstack-meeting10:23
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting10:25
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC10:26
*** gongysh has quit IRC10:30
*** zhurong has joined #openstack-meeting10:30
*** kevinz has quit IRC10:30
*** yamamoto has quit IRC10:30
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting10:32
*** yamamoto has quit IRC10:32
*** nadya has joined #openstack-meeting10:33
*** acoles_ is now known as acoles10:34
*** thorst has joined #openstack-meeting10:35
*** nadya has quit IRC10:38
*** thorst has quit IRC10:40
*** nadya has joined #openstack-meeting10:45
*** lbrune has quit IRC10:49
*** epico has quit IRC10:49
*** apetrich has joined #openstack-meeting10:51
*** rfolco has joined #openstack-meeting10:53
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting10:53
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting10:54
*** yamamoto has quit IRC10:54
*** lpetrut has quit IRC10:55
*** lpetrut has joined #openstack-meeting10:55
*** abalutoiu_ has quit IRC10:58
*** lbrune has joined #openstack-meeting10:59
*** mickeys has quit IRC10:59
*** zhhuabj has joined #openstack-meeting11:01
*** zhhuabj has quit IRC11:05
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting11:16
*** zhhuabj has joined #openstack-meeting11:17
*** beekhof_mb has quit IRC11:22
*** beekhof_mb has joined #openstack-meeting11:23
*** ayoung has joined #openstack-meeting11:25
*** beekhof_mb has quit IRC11:27
*** apetrich_ has joined #openstack-meeting11:29
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting11:31
*** apetrich has quit IRC11:32
*** apetrich_ has quit IRC11:33
*** alij has quit IRC11:35
*** bkopilov has quit IRC11:35
*** bkopilov_ has quit IRC11:35
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting11:36
*** sudipto_ has quit IRC11:39
*** sudipto has quit IRC11:39
*** saju_m has quit IRC11:39
*** saju_m has joined #openstack-meeting11:40
*** lbrune has quit IRC11:40
*** alij has quit IRC11:41
*** kjorgensen has joined #openstack-meeting11:41
*** bobmel has joined #openstack-meeting11:42
*** salv-orl_ has quit IRC11:42
*** kjorgensen has quit IRC11:46
*** bobmel has quit IRC11:47
*** jkilpatr has quit IRC11:47
*** saju_m has quit IRC11:51
*** saju_m has joined #openstack-meeting11:51
*** zhhuabj has quit IRC11:53
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting11:55
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting11:57
*** lbrune has joined #openstack-meeting11:58
*** mickeys has quit IRC12:00
*** ayogi has quit IRC12:00
*** JoseMello has joined #openstack-meeting12:01
*** alij has quit IRC12:03
*** zhurong has quit IRC12:05
*** jkilpatr has joined #openstack-meeting12:05
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting12:05
*** ayoung has quit IRC12:06
*** krtaylor has joined #openstack-meeting12:10
*** alij has quit IRC12:10
*** zhhuabj has joined #openstack-meeting12:11
*** zeih has quit IRC12:15
*** kaisers has quit IRC12:20
*** kaisers has joined #openstack-meeting12:21
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting12:22
*** kaisers has quit IRC12:26
*** alij has quit IRC12:27
*** sdague has joined #openstack-meeting12:31
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting12:31
*** thorst has joined #openstack-meeting12:37
*** rtheis has joined #openstack-meeting12:38
*** hwoarang_ is now known as hwoarang12:40
*** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting12:40
*** baoli has quit IRC12:48
*** dave-johnston has joined #openstack-meeting12:48
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting12:56
*** rossella_s has quit IRC12:57
*** rossella_s has joined #openstack-meeting12:57
*** gcb has quit IRC12:59
*** jftalta has joined #openstack-meeting13:00
*** mickeys has quit IRC13:00
*** kevinz has joined #openstack-meeting13:00
ianychoijftalta, oh! :)13:02
*** saju_m has quit IRC13:02
ianychoi#startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting13:03
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 19 13:03:20 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ianychoi. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:03
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)"13:03
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting'13:03
ianychoiIt seems that there are also only two..13:03
jftaltathe third has come :)13:04
ianychoiadiantum, hi!13:04
*** nadya has quit IRC13:04
ianychoii haven't updated today topics but i will start ...!13:05
*** jmckind has joined #openstack-meeting13:05
ianychoi#topic extra ATCs13:05
*** openstack changes topic to "extra ATCs (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)"13:05
ianychoiI have written all the stats for ATCs13:06
ianychoijftalta, and i am really sorry for your ATC stats. After summarizing the wiki content I got to know that review stats are included13:07
ianychoiBut i will keep it as my record :)13:08
*** bobh has joined #openstack-meeting13:08
ianychoiAlso thanks to I have updated all current member list13:09
ianychoialthough the tool may not be compatible with future Zanata13:09
ianychoi#topic Pkie PTG13:10
*** openstack changes topic to "Pkie PTG (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)"13:10
*** nssven has joined #openstack-meeting13:11
ianychoiThere is Docs / I18n room!13:11
*** links has quit IRC13:11
adiantumianychoi: yep13:12
*** gouthamr has joined #openstack-meeting13:12
jftaltaa good thing,really13:12
ianychoiDocs team organizers and me are discussing some a kind of conference online calls during PTG13:12
ianychoiIf finalized I will share to you13:13
*** ansmith has joined #openstack-meeting13:13
adiantumianychoi: sounds great13:13
jftaltaAs it happened in Barcelona ?13:13
*** zloykaban has joined #openstack-meeting13:13
ianychoiadiantum, jftalta thanks I hope to see you through online :)13:13
*** kevinz has quit IRC13:14
*** ayoung has joined #openstack-meeting13:14
ianychoijftalta, yep but much more online dedicated... I think :)13:14
zloykabanHi team! hope find you in good spirits =)13:14
ianychoiOn Barcelona it seemed that we focused mainly offline :)13:14
adiantumzloykaban: hi13:14
jftaltait depends of the schedule. We have to deal with time lag13:14
*** kevinz has joined #openstack-meeting13:15
jftaltaBut I'll do my best to be with you13:15
ianychoijftalta, yep same as Docs team :)13:15
ianychoizloykaban, hi :)13:15
jftaltahi zloykaban13:15
ianychoi#topic Zanata upgrade13:15
*** openstack changes topic to "Zanata upgrade (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)"13:15
*** electrofelix has joined #openstack-meeting13:15
nssvenHi team!13:16
ianychoiMany infra and Zanata dev team members are helping a lot13:16
*** [HeOS] has joined #openstack-meeting13:16
jftaltanssven hi13:16
adiantumnssven: hi13:16
*** shintaro has joined #openstack-meeting13:16
ianychoinssven, hi ! Are u a translator?13:16
ianychoizloykaban, are u also a translator? :)13:16
nssvenru team13:16
ianychoiWow may i ask which country?13:16
zloykabansame witn <nssven>13:17
ianychoiaha adiantum 's friend wow + zloykaban nice to see you both!13:17
*** HeOS has quit IRC13:17
adiantumianychoi: yep, today we all here =)13:17
*** lhx_ has quit IRC13:17
*** jmckind has quit IRC13:18
*** jmckind has joined #openstack-meeting13:18
*** HeOS_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:18
ianychoiWe will upgrade to 3.9.6 on translate-dev first13:19
ianychoiBut not sure to translate production right after13:19
ianychoisince StringFreeze periods are coming..13:20
ianychoi- which will be the next topic13:20
adiantumianychoi: yes, you're right.13:20
*** apetrich has joined #openstack-meeting13:20
adiantumianychoi: better to upgrade after release, and at least we can test it all this time13:21
ianychoiadiantum, yep I agree with u13:21
ianychoi#topic StringFreezes13:21
*** openstack changes topic to "StringFreezes (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)"13:21
*** [HeOS] has quit IRC13:21
amotokihi, I just noticed the meeting is running :)13:22
ianychoiamotoki hi!13:22
adiantumamotoki: hi!13:22
jftaltaHi, amotoki13:22
zloykabanamotoki, Hi !13:22
ianychoiI wanna ask: are u translating Horizon now ?13:22
*** jpich has joined #openstack-meeting13:23
ianychoiLast week I started to encourage Korean translators to contribute Horizon translation with ujuc - Korean coordinator13:24
jftaltaFr team is not13:24
*** askb has quit IRC13:24
jftaltaIt's too early13:24
adiantumyep, too early to translate horizon13:24
ianychoihmm.. But there are only 10 days left...13:24
jftaltaHard string freeze is scheduled at the very end of january13:24
*** hashar has quit IRC13:25
ianychoiFrom my understanding we need to finish Horizon translation by the end of Jan - Hard StringFreeze13:25
*** ayoung has quit IRC13:25
ianychoiWe might have so less time, but I think it is time to encourage translators to start Horizon translation.13:26
jftaltaianychoi : between today and hard string freeze, there can be many strings changes13:27
*** ayoung has joined #openstack-meeting13:27
jftaltaand strings changes can break translations13:27
*** kaisers has joined #openstack-meeting13:27
zloykaban+1 to <jftalta>13:27
*** zz_dimtruck is now known as dimtruck13:27
*** kaisers has quit IRC13:28
adiantumyep, the reason of hard string freeze is "to give translator time to finish up their efforts"13:28
ianychoiamotoki, How do you think about it? Will there be lots of string changes from now to Soft StringFreeze?13:28
*** bobh has quit IRC13:28
*** kaisers has joined #openstack-meeting13:29
adiantumbut i looked at changes in horizon, and may be ianychoi is right, there is a lot of changes13:29
amotokifrom my experience there is no big string changes after Soft StringFreeze.13:29
jftaltaianychoi : imho, it might. but it's not easy to predict13:29
amotokiWhat we had in the past is that horizon merged some new blueprints after the feature freeze13:30
amotokiit introduced a number of NEW strings (around 100~200 strings)13:30
amotokiI don't think we had many CHANGES after the soft string freeze13:30
jftaltaamotoki : and what about string updates ?13:31
*** kaisers3 has quit IRC13:31
zloykabannew strings shouldn`t  be a big deal, but string changes are ...13:32
*** adiantum1 has joined #openstack-meeting13:32
jftaltayes !13:32
amotokii think most string changes were made by me as translation feedback13:32
*** adiantum has quit IRC13:32
*** adiantum1 is now known as adiantum13:32
ianychoiNow I am asking with horizon team13:33
jftaltaWith Zanata, how can I know if a string has been changed ?13:33
amotokidead loop :-( .....13:33
amotokiIMHO string changes (except new strings) can easily coped with translation team and it does not matter. thought?13:34
amotokijftalta: when a string has been changed, we see a new string. If you visit the string, you will see a similar string (with 80-90% similarity) in the translation memory (suggestions).13:35
jftaltaok, thx :)13:36
ianychoirobcresswell from Horizon team said that Feature Freezing has been finished13:37
*** rtheis has quit IRC13:37
amotokiianychoi: yes, horizon team enables feature freeze this week.13:38
*** ayoung has quit IRC13:38
ianychoiIMO there will be some string changes but starting from now is a good idea..13:38
*** ayoung has joined #openstack-meeting13:38
*** archies has joined #openstack-meeting13:39
ianychoi1 week is so short....13:39
*** robcresswell has joined #openstack-meeting13:39
*** ayoung has quit IRC13:39
ianychoiadiantum, translating wihin 1 week is sufficient with ru team?13:39
ianychoirobcresswell, hello!13:40
jftaltaHi, robcresswell13:40
ianychoiWow two Horizon team members - robcresswell and amotoki :)13:40
amotokiat least from my experience in mitaka and newton, we did not have so many string changes.13:40
amotokiin case of JP team, we started *reviews* after hard stringfreeze13:41
adiantumianychoi: looks like we have 10 days until RC, but i agree - start now is good idea13:41
*** Sudha has joined #openstack-meeting13:41
adiantumrobcresswell: hi!13:41
ianychoiAnd I think Horizon will be packaged around the end of Jan13:41
nssven<adiantum> agree13:41
robcresswellFYI, translations dont have to hit RC113:41
robcresswellWe usually have an RC2 just to allow more translation time.13:42
robcresswellFinal RC date is Feb 16, with release at 23rd.13:42
adiantumrobcresswell: good practice, thank you =)13:42
ianychoirobcresswell, oh thanks!13:42
robcresswellSo there is no need to finish it all in one week :)13:42
jftaltaSo, we've got almost 3 weeks, starting from today13:42
*** sandanar has joined #openstack-meeting13:42
adiantumrobcresswell: sounds perfect :-)13:43
robcresswellI've done a little of the British English l10n before just to teach myself, so I'm quite familiar with the tooling.13:43
*** kevinz has quit IRC13:43
amotokiyes, that's the practice we learned from the past experiences.13:43
*** sudipto has joined #openstack-meeting13:43
*** sudipto_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:43
ianychoiBut maybe there are also Horizon-related projects13:43
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting13:43
*** acabot has quit IRC13:43
*** kevinz has joined #openstack-meeting13:43
*** tommylikehu_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:43
*** kaisers1 has joined #openstack-meeting13:43
*** ayoung has joined #openstack-meeting13:43
jftaltayou mea new dashboards ?13:43
*** pradk has joined #openstack-meeting13:44
amotokihe means horizon plugins13:44
robcresswellThere are the other dashboards to consider, but they should ideally follow Horizon policies. It is trivial to tag a new RC with translations.13:44
ianychoiamotoki is a I18n-Horizon liaison :) But for others I think I might need to start communications13:44
*** tommylikehu_ has quit IRC13:44
*** tommylikehu_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:44
*** lhx_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:45
robcresswellSo it is not a big thing to ask of other projects to extend their final translation dates.13:45
*** sudipto has quit IRC13:45
*** sudipto_ has quit IRC13:45
ianychoirobcresswell, thanks :)13:45
archies@mriedem, nova core, sorry for interrupting in between. Wanted to check your views on the
openstackLaunchpad bug 1636489 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Volume attachment fails for all the available instances after running different volume operations for 1-2 hours or more." [Undecided,New]13:45
*** tommylikehu_ has quit IRC13:45
*** kaisers2 has joined #openstack-meeting13:45
*** zeih has joined #openstack-meeting13:45
amotokiarchies: wrong channel? this is #-meeting channel13:46
*** tommylikehu_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:46
archiesthanks amotoki, pls can you help identify correct channel13:46
archiesI was too wasn't much sure about it13:46
amotokiarchies: #openstakc-nova?13:47
ianychoiThen adiantum could you share Freezing dates then? Let's consider to start your String13:47
ianychoiFreezing Manager role13:47
amotokiarchies: #openstack-nova?13:47
adiantumianychoi: let me to prepare message and i would like you to check it13:48
amotokiianychoi: what we should do is to share our policies which applies to horizon with horizon plugin PTLs and teams.13:48
adiantumianychoi: what do you think?13:48
ianychoiadiantum, +1 I will do it :)13:48
archiesthanks amotoki, got confused with the site content provided on
adiantumianychoi: great :-)13:48
amotokiarchies: np13:49
ianychoiamotoki, good idea.13:49
adiantumamotoki: +113:49
*** bzhao_ has joined #openstack-meeting13:49
*** eharney has joined #openstack-meeting13:49
ianychoiamotoki, may be the ratio of string changes?13:49
jftaltaamotoki: +113:49
amotokiianychoi: no.13:50
robcresswellAnother thing worth mentioning, if there are new Horizon bugs found during translation please tag them appropriately ('i18n' tag) and ping one of the cores (probably me or amotoki)13:50
amotokiwhat I am talking is the deadline and RC2.13:50
ianychoiI will add this topic in PTG with Horizon - then.. could u say some examples?13:50
*** shintaro has quit IRC13:50
amotokiianychoi: examples?13:51
ianychoirobcresswell, thanks for mentioning :)13:51
ianychoi our policies which applies to horizon  -> maybe translation priority?13:52
ianychoiAha deadline and RC213:52
ianychoiamotoki, sorry and thanks :)13:53
Sudha "/JOIN #openstack-nova13:53
amotokiour basic policy on translation import deadline is around RC2 (or later RC if exist) and horizon plugin teams are suggested to follow this schedule.13:53
ianychoiamotoki, yep I fot your points13:54
robcresswellYeah, no need to restrict yourself to RC1.13:54
ianychoi#topic open discussion13:54
*** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)"13:54
ianychoiAny more things to be discussed?13:55
*** zeih has quit IRC13:55
*** Sudha has left #openstack-meeting13:56
jftaltanot for me13:56
ianychoizloykaban, is it your 1st coming with nssven here?13:56
ianychoijftalta, and congrats for better French landing page13:56
nssvennot first time:) I kept silence before13:56
*** markvoelker has quit IRC13:57
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting13:57
zloykabanYes, <ianychoi>13:57
jftaltaianychoi: thanks !13:57
*** nadya has joined #openstack-meeting13:57
jftaltaand thank for helping13:58
ianychoiamotoki, just from stats Japanese team finished document translations. For landing page changes may be Kato-san will take care of it?13:58
*** jpr has joined #openstack-meeting13:58
amotokiianychoi: perhaps so13:58
ianychoiadiantum, also I hope to see Russian landing page soon with finishing one document translation - with nssven and zloykaban :)13:59
ianychoiamotoki, ok I will ask katomo the13:59
ianychoiWe need to finish today meeting13:59
ianychoiThanks a lot all!!13:59
amotokii can do it. either of us who notices usually updates the landing page.13:59
zloykabanThank you ! see you next time14:00
jftaltathanks and goodbye all !14:00
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings ||"14:00
openstackMeeting ended Thu Jan 19 14:00:30 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at . (v 0.1.4)14:00
openstackMinutes (text):
adiantumianychoi: thanks14:00
*** nssven has quit IRC14:00
*** ihrachys has joined #openstack-meeting14:00
robcresswellthanks ianychoi14:00
*** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting14:01
*** mickeys has quit IRC14:01
*** archies has left #openstack-meeting14:01
*** jftalta has quit IRC14:01
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC14:05
*** dprince has joined #openstack-meeting14:05
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting14:05
*** fguillot has joined #openstack-meeting14:06
*** apetrich has quit IRC14:06
*** bkopilov_ has joined #openstack-meeting14:06
*** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting14:06
*** mkoderer has joined #openstack-meeting14:14
*** kaisers has quit IRC14:15
*** kaisers has joined #openstack-meeting14:16
*** ayoung has quit IRC14:16
*** yangyapeng has joined #openstack-meeting14:16
*** kjw3 has joined #openstack-meeting14:22
*** jpr has quit IRC14:24
*** lblanchard has joined #openstack-meeting14:25
*** jpich has left #openstack-meeting14:25
*** reedip_ has joined #openstack-meeting14:26
*** alij has quit IRC14:27
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting14:30
*** alij has quit IRC14:31
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting14:31
*** simon-AS559 has quit IRC14:32
*** dimtruck is now known as zz_dimtruck14:34
*** alij has quit IRC14:35
*** adiantum has quit IRC14:37
*** adiantum1 has joined #openstack-meeting14:37
*** adiantum1 is now known as adiantum14:40
*** jpr has joined #openstack-meeting14:40
*** bobmel has joined #openstack-meeting14:44
*** zhangshuai has quit IRC14:48
*** zhangshuai has joined #openstack-meeting14:48
*** bobmel has quit IRC14:48
*** rbak has joined #openstack-meeting14:53
*** rossella_s has quit IRC14:56
*** alyson_ has joined #openstack-meeting14:56
*** rbartal has quit IRC14:57
*** rossella_s has joined #openstack-meeting14:57
*** mtanino has joined #openstack-meeting14:58
*** dprince has quit IRC14:59
*** bobmel has joined #openstack-meeting14:59
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting15:00
*** baoli has quit IRC15:00
*** jpr has left #openstack-meeting15:01
*** phil_ has joined #openstack-meeting15:01
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC15:02
*** fnaval has joined #openstack-meeting15:02
*** alij has quit IRC15:04
*** designbybeck_ has joined #openstack-meeting15:05
*** bobh has joined #openstack-meeting15:05
*** TxGirlGeek has joined #openstack-meeting15:06
*** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting15:07
*** zz_dimtruck is now known as dimtruck15:13
*** asselin has joined #openstack-meeting15:13
*** janki has quit IRC15:13
*** ykatabam has quit IRC15:14
*** nadya has quit IRC15:15
*** lbrune has quit IRC15:15
*** lbrune has joined #openstack-meeting15:15
*** lbrune has quit IRC15:16
*** baoli has quit IRC15:16
*** dmacpher has joined #openstack-meeting15:17
*** guyr-infinidat has quit IRC15:17
*** edtubill has joined #openstack-meeting15:19
*** VW has joined #openstack-meeting15:20
*** kristian__ has joined #openstack-meeting15:20
*** makowals has joined #openstack-meeting15:21
*** VW has quit IRC15:21
*** VW has joined #openstack-meeting15:22
*** jaugustine has joined #openstack-meeting15:23
*** guyr-infinidat has joined #openstack-meeting15:24
*** galstrom_zzz is now known as galstrom15:26
*** sheel has quit IRC15:27
*** markvoelker_ has joined #openstack-meeting15:28
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting15:29
*** markvoelker has quit IRC15:29
*** sacharya has joined #openstack-meeting15:30
*** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting15:30
*** markvoelker has joined #openstack-meeting15:31
*** neiljerram has quit IRC15:31
*** ayoung has joined #openstack-meeting15:31
*** korzen has quit IRC15:31
*** markvoelker_ has quit IRC15:33
*** kylek3h_ is now known as kylek3h15:33
*** alij has quit IRC15:34
*** kevinz has quit IRC15:35
*** anilvenkata has quit IRC15:35
*** rajinir has joined #openstack-meeting15:35
*** dmorita has joined #openstack-meeting15:37
*** sridharg has quit IRC15:41
*** lamt has joined #openstack-meeting15:41
*** dmorita has quit IRC15:41
*** diablo_rojo has joined #openstack-meeting15:41
*** rbudden has joined #openstack-meeting15:44
*** armax has joined #openstack-meeting15:45
*** mtanino has quit IRC15:46
*** dprince has joined #openstack-meeting15:47
*** hongbin has joined #openstack-meeting15:48
*** yuval has quit IRC15:50
*** lpetrut has quit IRC15:50
*** jungleboyj has joined #openstack-meeting15:51
*** tommylikehu_ has quit IRC15:54
*** bzhao_ has quit IRC15:54
*** jhakimra has joined #openstack-meeting15:59
*** bobh has quit IRC15:59
*** oomichi_ has joined #openstack-meeting16:00
*** blancos has joined #openstack-meeting16:00
*** spzala has joined #openstack-meeting16:01
*** blancos has quit IRC16:01
*** lamt has quit IRC16:02
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting16:03
*** nadya has joined #openstack-meeting16:05
*** david-lyle has joined #openstack-meeting16:06
*** jhakimra has quit IRC16:09
*** iyamahat has joined #openstack-meeting16:10
*** lamt has joined #openstack-meeting16:13
*** zhonghua2 has joined #openstack-meeting16:14
*** zhonghua has quit IRC16:16
*** thorst is now known as thorst_afk16:19
*** vishnoianil has joined #openstack-meeting16:19
*** chenying_ has quit IRC16:21
*** sandanar has quit IRC16:21
*** yamahata has joined #openstack-meeting16:22
*** absubram has joined #openstack-meeting16:22
*** salv-orl_ has joined #openstack-meeting16:24
*** lamt has quit IRC16:25
*** guyr-infinidat has quit IRC16:26
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC16:27
*** kjorgensen has joined #openstack-meeting16:29
*** phil_ has quit IRC16:29
*** lamt has joined #openstack-meeting16:30
*** hrybacki is now known as hrybacki|afkish16:32
*** kristian__ has quit IRC16:33
*** kristian__ has joined #openstack-meeting16:34
*** salv-orl_ has quit IRC16:34
*** bobh has joined #openstack-meeting16:35
*** VW has quit IRC16:36
*** phil_ has joined #openstack-meeting16:37
*** links has joined #openstack-meeting16:37
*** lblanchard has quit IRC16:37
*** thorst_afk is now known as thorst_16:37
*** jmckind_ has joined #openstack-meeting16:37
*** kristian__ has quit IRC16:38
*** zloykaban has quit IRC16:38
*** jmckind has quit IRC16:39
*** unicell has quit IRC16:40
*** annegentle has joined #openstack-meeting16:40
*** ijw has joined #openstack-meeting16:42
*** lhx_ has quit IRC16:46
*** absubram has quit IRC16:47
*** absubram has joined #openstack-meeting16:49
*** edtubill has quit IRC16:51
*** e0ne has quit IRC16:52
*** kristian__ has joined #openstack-meeting16:54
*** david-lyle has quit IRC16:55
*** kristian__ has quit IRC16:55
*** absubram has quit IRC16:55
*** DavidPurcell has joined #openstack-meeting16:55
*** kristian__ has joined #openstack-meeting16:56
*** kristian__ has quit IRC16:56
*** spzala has quit IRC16:56
*** kristian__ has joined #openstack-meeting16:57
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting16:57
*** rossella_s has quit IRC16:57
*** rossella_s has joined #openstack-meeting16:57
*** jhakimra has joined #openstack-meeting16:58
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting16:58
*** blancos has joined #openstack-meeting16:58
*** jungleboyj has quit IRC16:58
*** absubram has joined #openstack-meeting16:59
oomichi_#startmeeting qa17:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 19 17:00:36 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is oomichi_. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.17:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)"17:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'qa'17:00
oomichi_hi who can join the meeting today?17:00
DavidPurcellhello o/17:01
*** edtubill has joined #openstack-meeting17:01
*** kristian__ has quit IRC17:01
oomichi_mtreinish: andreaf: ping17:02
oomichi_ok, lets get start17:02
oomichi_#link is today agenda17:02
oomichi_#topic PTG17:03
*** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: qa)"17:03
oomichi_we are gathering ideas for PTG on #link
*** beagles is now known as beagles-brb17:03
oomichi_we have 2 full days for qa project17:04
*** pnavarro has quit IRC17:04
oomichi_and I think we can allocate more ideas for days17:04
oomichi_it would be nice to put more ideas on that :)17:04
oomichi_btw someone know who wrote "Discussion of Test Runners" ?17:05
*** neiljerram has joined #openstack-meeting17:05
oomichi_we need to assign owner for each slot and the above is empty now17:05
*** lamt has quit IRC17:05
andreafI don't know but if no-one claims the ownership and we don17:05
andreafwe don17:05
andreafcan't type...17:06
oomichi_ok, I will ask it again on the other way17:06
*** lamt has joined #openstack-meeting17:06
oomichi_do we have more topics about PTG today?17:06
andreafand in case we don't have a real need to discuss it we can skip the idea17:06
oomichi_andreaf: yeah, I agree. and we can spend remaining time for code sprint17:06
oomichi_that would be also productive, and I prefer :)17:07
oomichi_ok, lets move on17:07
andreafoomichi_: do we want to have standard sessions like "devstack and grenade"17:07
andreafor "priorities for pike"17:08
*** absubram has quit IRC17:08
*** Patifa has joined #openstack-meeting17:08
andreafas we used to have those discussions at the design summit17:08
oomichi_andreaf: humm, nice ideas17:08
andreafI will add those17:08
andreafat least it's good to have the topic there, if there's not much to be said we can close it quickly17:09
oomichi_andreaf: I wrote them on etherpad now as note, and we can arrange them later17:09
oomichi_yeah, o-h also is nice topic17:10
oomichi_DavidPurcell: how about policy testing ?17:10
oomichi_don't we need to discuss the direction of patrole on PTG?17:10
DavidPurcelloomichi_ Going well.  Framework added and we're starting to push up tests.17:10
DavidPurcellWe definitely could add it to the PTG discussions.17:11
*** kristian__ has joined #openstack-meeting17:11
oomichi_DavidPurcell: cool, can you write your idea down on the etherpad?17:11
*** links has quit IRC17:11
*** kristian__ has quit IRC17:11
oomichi_DavidPurcell: thanks :)17:11
oomichi_OK, lets move on17:12
oomichi_#topic Specs Reviews17:12
*** openstack changes topic to "Specs Reviews (Meeting topic: qa)"17:12
oomichi_oh, new spec is comming* #link
oomichi_do we have topics about specs today?17:13
*** aarefiev is now known as aarefiev_afk17:14
*** unicell has joined #openstack-meeting17:14
oomichi_ok, lets move on17:14
oomichi_#topic Tempest17:15
*** openstack changes topic to "Tempest (Meeting topic: qa)"17:15
oomichi_this week, dmellado was bug triager17:15
oomichi_bug triage itself seems on good progress17:16
*** bbzhao has joined #openstack-meeting17:16
oomichi_#link shows bug number progress17:16
oomichi_the number still continues decreasing17:16
*** yamahata has quit IRC17:16
*** andreas_s has quit IRC17:17
oomichi_the next assignee is chandankumar, I am happy to see the progress next week :)17:17
oomichi_Do we have more topics about Tempest?17:18
*** iyamahat has quit IRC17:18
andreafthe -ssh job is now voting on Tempest17:18
*** liusheng has quit IRC17:18
*** david-lyle has joined #openstack-meeting17:18
*** david-lyle has quit IRC17:18
oomichi_andreaf: yeah, thanks for making it on17:18
*** liusheng has joined #openstack-meeting17:18
*** bzhao has quit IRC17:18
*** pnavarro has joined #openstack-meeting17:19
andreafthe periodic job is running fine but we had a few failures on chack / gate (3 on check and 1 on gate)17:19
andreafrelated to AttachVolumeShelveTestJSON.test_attach_detach_volume17:19
oomichi_the gate still seems stable now17:19
andreafit may be that this is picking up race condition with shelve / unshelve and floating IPs17:19
*** alij has quit IRC17:19
andreafI'll keep an eye on it, it's not severe enough for now to do anything17:19
oomichi_andreaf: do we have LP report for them?17:19
*** VW has joined #openstack-meeting17:20
andreafnot yet, I was still looking at the issue17:20
andreaftrying to make a decent lp report :)17:20
clarkbalso logstash/elasticsearch/elastic-recheck are mostly all working well right now. So if can get the classification rate up we should have a very good view into what is and isn't working17:20
clarkb(right now it is at 43% which seems low)17:20
andreafclarkb: sure, that was going to be my next step after the bug17:21
*** kaisers has quit IRC17:21
oomichi_andreaf: cool, thanks for that17:22
oomichi_I dont have difficult patches to be reviewed now, so can we move on?17:22
oomichi_#topic DevStack + Grenade17:23
*** openstack changes topic to "DevStack + Grenade (Meeting topic: qa)"17:23
oomichi_do we have more topics about DevStack + Grenade today?17:23
andreafI don't know if sdague is around?17:24
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting17:24
andreafI think it's worth to mention that there's a new project in the QA program - devstack-tools17:24
oomichi_andreaf: ah, nice point. That became under QA yesterday17:25
andreafit's a python port of a number of devstack functions, made by sdague17:25
oomichi_the original is #link
*** VW has quit IRC17:26
*** VW has joined #openstack-meeting17:26
sigmavirussdague: nice work :)17:26
*** nadya has quit IRC17:26
*** lpetrut has joined #openstack-meeting17:27
oomichi_IIUC, that makes devstack(bash) into python as possible17:27
*** Swami has joined #openstack-meeting17:28
oomichi_it was best to introduce it by sdague , but now is not active17:28
*** david-lyle has joined #openstack-meeting17:28
oomichi_lets move on if not having more discussion *)17:29
oomichi_#topic openstack-health17:29
*** openstack changes topic to "openstack-health (Meeting topic: qa)"17:29
oomichi_most patches are under good reviws17:30
*** Leo_ has joined #openstack-meeting17:31
oomichi_so do we have discussion points today17:31
oomichi_ok, lets move on17:32
oomichi_#topic Patrole17:32
*** openstack changes topic to "Patrole (Meeting topic: qa)"17:32
oomichi_I feel DavidPurcell already said its progress ;)17:32
DavidPurcellhaha, yes.17:33
oomichi_DavidPurcell: are there any problem for it today ?17:33
*** Apoorva has joined #openstack-meeting17:33
DavidPurcellNothing huge.  We are mostly still migrating the AT&T code we wrote internally.17:33
DavidPurcellSome extra eyes on the reviews would be nice :)17:34
*** VW has quit IRC17:34
oomichi_DavidPurcell: oh, that is awesome. I wondered how to produce the code so quickly. I know the answer now :)17:34
oomichi_yeah, it is nice to get more eyes17:34
*** VW has joined #openstack-meeting17:34
dmelladoyep DavidPurcell, I'll have a look at the open reviews at the repo whenever I get the chance ;)17:34
*** alyson_ has left #openstack-meeting17:34
*** jhakimra has quit IRC17:34
DavidPurcelloomichi_: Haha, yes.  We're good, but not that good ;)17:35
* dmellado tries to get over a dreaded cold xD17:35
DavidPurcellBut unless there are any questions, I don't have anything else for Patrole.17:36
andreafDavidPurcell: I haven't checked Patrole yet - do you have some CI in place already?17:36
*** mkoderer has quit IRC17:36
DavidPurcellandreaf: There are some unit tests17:37
andreafgreat :)17:37
*** matrohon has quit IRC17:38
oomichi_Patrole seems good progress. OK, lets move on17:38
oomichi_#topic Critical Reviews17:39
*** openstack changes topic to "Critical Reviews (Meeting topic: qa)"17:39
oomichi_do we have patches which are necessary to be reviewed soon today?17:39
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting17:40
oomichi_oh, nobody have. That is good :)17:40
*** unicell has quit IRC17:40
oomichi_#topic Voting permission for IBM PowerKVM CI on devstack (mmedvede)17:40
*** openstack changes topic to "Voting permission for IBM PowerKVM CI on devstack (mmedvede) (Meeting topic: qa)"17:40
mmedvedehi qa17:41
oomichi_mmedvede: can you metion here ?17:41
oomichi_mmedvede: please go ahead :)17:41
mmedvedeI wanted to follow up from the last meeting
dmelladommedvede: could you pls summarize?17:41
*** asselin has quit IRC17:42
*** asselin has joined #openstack-meeting17:42
oomichi_IIUC, the IBM CI is voting on nova. and this is trying to make it voting on Tempest17:43
mmedvedefrom that last meeting, and discussion in qa channel, It seemed like there were no big objections to enabling voting for IBM PowerKVM CI17:43
*** iyamahat has joined #openstack-meeting17:43
dmelladocan't we make it non-voting first?17:43
mmedvedeoomichi_: almost, voting on devstack17:43
mmedvedenot voting on tempest17:43
oomichi_mmedvede: oh, sorry. And devstack one is stable now, right?17:44
mmedvededmellado: it is currently non-voting on devstack:
dmelladooh, on devstack *not tempest*17:44
mmedvedeoomichi_: correct, it is stable on devstack patches17:44
*** alij has quit IRC17:44
oomichi_mmedvede: oh, that seems to become more stable than I checked before17:45
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC17:45
dmelladooomichi_: quoting you here "if that would be voting and give -1 on unrelated patches, that makes the review process slow"17:45
oomichi_I dont have objections against the voting17:45
mmedvedeas you mention it, we do check tempest patches too, so I do not mind making it report on tempest as well :) but one thing at a time17:45
dmelladobut if it's stable enough, worst case it'd be just a '-1'17:46
oomichi_dmellado: yeah, that is a point :)17:46
mmedvedeyes, concern was that -1 might make people less likely to review. But it would not block a patch from merging17:46
* dmellado tends to fear third-party results in neutron...17:46
oomichi_dmellado: haha, it is17:47
*** sdake_ has joined #openstack-meeting17:47
oomichi_ok, if there is not objection here, I will make it voting17:47
*** dmorita has joined #openstack-meeting17:47
oomichi_Even after voting and facing issue, it is easy to make it non-voting again17:48
mmedvedetrue :)17:48
mmedvedeso we would do our best so you would not have to17:49
oomichi_#action oomichi makes IBM PowerKVM CI voting17:49
*** kjorgensen has quit IRC17:49
oomichi_ok, lets move on17:50
oomichi_#topic Open Discussion17:50
*** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: qa)"17:50
*** sdake has quit IRC17:50
*** beagles-brb is now known as beagles17:50
oomichi_do we have more topics today ?17:50
*** phil_ has quit IRC17:50
dmelladoI guess you already covered the PTG topics, didn't you?17:51
oomichi_dmellado: yeah, that was the first topic today :)17:51
dmelladothen I'll check the history later ;)17:51
luzCI'll take a look at PTG topics also...17:51
oomichi_dmellado: we are gathering ideas on
oomichi_you have already put yours on that :)17:52
dmelladooomichi_: yeah, I put it there to revisit the plugin stuff17:52
*** radeks has joined #openstack-meeting17:52
*** radeksmg has joined #openstack-meeting17:52
luzCoomichi_ quick question can I add grenade items on it or should I take that conversation out?17:52
oomichi_luzC: grenade topic for PTG is welcome :)  please write it down on the etherpad17:53
*** markmcclain has joined #openstack-meeting17:53
luzCoomichi_ ok, I will thanks17:53
dmelladoluzC: if you can get it stable I'll get you some beers ( + help on the PTG ) xD17:53
oomichi_luzC: happy to hear that17:53
luzC+1 :)17:54
oomichi_cool :)17:55
oomichi_do we have more topics today ?17:55
oomichi_thanks all :)17:56
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings ||"17:56
openstackMeeting ended Thu Jan 19 17:56:06 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at . (v 0.1.4)17:56
openstackMinutes (text):
*** absubram has joined #openstack-meeting17:56
*** SumitNaiksatam has joined #openstack-meeting17:57
*** blancos has quit IRC17:57
*** reedip_ has quit IRC18:00
*** saju_m has joined #openstack-meeting18:01
*** yamahata has joined #openstack-meeting18:03
*** ralonsoh has quit IRC18:04
*** krtaylor has quit IRC18:05
*** rossella_s has quit IRC18:17
*** cody-somerville has quit IRC18:17
*** bobh has quit IRC18:17
*** cody-somerville has joined #openstack-meeting18:17
*** cody-somerville has quit IRC18:17
*** cody-somerville has joined #openstack-meeting18:17
*** david-lyle has quit IRC18:18
*** diablo_rojo has quit IRC18:18
*** Sukhdev has joined #openstack-meeting18:21
*** rasca has quit IRC18:22
*** VW has quit IRC18:23
*** sdake has joined #openstack-meeting18:24
*** sdake_ has quit IRC18:28
*** adisky_ has quit IRC18:29
*** VW has joined #openstack-meeting18:31
*** weshay is now known as weshay_afk18:31
*** kjorgensen has joined #openstack-meeting18:32
*** lblanchard has joined #openstack-meeting18:32
*** kjorgensen has quit IRC18:35
*** kjorgensen has joined #openstack-meeting18:35
*** ociuhandu has quit IRC18:35
*** yamamoto has quit IRC18:36
*** absubram has quit IRC18:36
*** hrybacki|afkish is now known as hrybacki|sick18:40
*** sdake_ has joined #openstack-meeting18:40
*** HeOS_ has quit IRC18:40
*** dhellmann_ has quit IRC18:41
*** sdake has quit IRC18:42
*** apetrich has joined #openstack-meeting18:42
*** acoles is now known as acoles_18:43
*** s3wong has joined #openstack-meeting18:43
*** rbak has quit IRC18:46
*** SumitNaiksatam has quit IRC18:50
*** electrofelix has quit IRC18:51
*** sdake has joined #openstack-meeting18:51
*** diablo_rojo has joined #openstack-meeting18:52
*** oomichi_ has left #openstack-meeting18:53
*** sdake_ has quit IRC18:54
*** bobh has joined #openstack-meeting18:56
*** krtaylor has joined #openstack-meeting18:56
*** lpetrut has quit IRC18:57
*** Leo_ has quit IRC18:58
*** ianychoi has quit IRC19:00
*** jmckind_ has quit IRC19:02
*** nadya has joined #openstack-meeting19:03
*** rbak has joined #openstack-meeting19:03
*** jmckind has joined #openstack-meeting19:08
*** toscalix has quit IRC19:09
*** VW has quit IRC19:12
*** VW has joined #openstack-meeting19:13
*** matrohon has joined #openstack-meeting19:13
*** sdake has quit IRC19:14
*** dhellmann_ has joined #openstack-meeting19:16
*** zaneb has quit IRC19:17
*** zaneb has joined #openstack-meeting19:17
*** sdake has joined #openstack-meeting19:17
*** cdelatte has joined #openstack-meeting19:18
*** ociuhandu has joined #openstack-meeting19:19
*** sdake_ has joined #openstack-meeting19:19
*** VW has quit IRC19:21
*** iyamahat has quit IRC19:21
*** VW has joined #openstack-meeting19:22
*** baoli has quit IRC19:22
*** sdake has quit IRC19:22
*** SumitNaiksatam has joined #openstack-meeting19:23
*** mtanino has joined #openstack-meeting19:25
*** SumitNaiksatam has left #openstack-meeting19:25
*** absubram has joined #openstack-meeting19:25
*** dhellmann_ has quit IRC19:26
*** bobh has quit IRC19:28
*** iyamahat has joined #openstack-meeting19:28
*** jkilpatr has quit IRC19:29
*** tesseract has quit IRC19:29
*** jmckind_ has joined #openstack-meeting19:31
*** jmckind has quit IRC19:32
*** dprince has quit IRC19:32
*** Leo_ has joined #openstack-meeting19:32
*** yamamoto has joined #openstack-meeting19:36
*** cloudrancher has joined #openstack-meeting19:38
*** yamamoto has quit IRC19:43
*** jkilpatr has joined #openstack-meeting19:45
*** david-lyle has joined #openstack-meeting19:48
*** TxGirlGeek has quit IRC19:59
*** TxGirlGeek has joined #openstack-meeting20:01
*** rfolco has quit IRC20:02
*** nadya has quit IRC20:03
*** sambetts is now known as sambetts|afk20:03
*** absubram has quit IRC20:06
*** ankur-gupta-f1 has joined #openstack-meeting20:06
*** TxGirlGeek has quit IRC20:07
*** lblanchard has quit IRC20:09
*** jprovazn has quit IRC20:09
*** dhellmann_ has joined #openstack-meeting20:09
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting20:11
*** TxGirlGeek has joined #openstack-meeting20:14
*** kjw3 has quit IRC20:14
*** kjw3 has joined #openstack-meeting20:14
*** dhellmann_ has quit IRC20:14
*** darrenc_ is now known as darrenc20:15
*** TxGirlGeek has quit IRC20:17
*** dprince has joined #openstack-meeting20:17
*** TxGirlGeek has joined #openstack-meeting20:17
*** jmckind has joined #openstack-meeting20:17
*** jmckind_ has quit IRC20:19
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting20:20
*** csomerville has joined #openstack-meeting20:21
*** jaugustine has quit IRC20:21
*** TxGirlGeek has quit IRC20:23
*** cody-somerville has quit IRC20:24
*** alij has quit IRC20:24
*** Sukhdev has quit IRC20:26
*** TxGirlGeek has joined #openstack-meeting20:27
*** jmckind_ has joined #openstack-meeting20:28
*** bobh has joined #openstack-meeting20:28
*** lpetrut has joined #openstack-meeting20:29
*** jmckind has quit IRC20:30
*** ekcs has joined #openstack-meeting20:33
*** bobh has quit IRC20:33
*** jmckind_ has quit IRC20:33
*** TxGirlGeek has quit IRC20:35
*** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting20:35
*** TxGirlGeek has joined #openstack-meeting20:36
*** jmckind has joined #openstack-meeting20:38
*** e0ne has quit IRC20:38
*** HeOS_ has joined #openstack-meeting20:40
*** TxGirlGeek has quit IRC20:41
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting20:41
*** alij has quit IRC20:46
*** pnavarro has quit IRC20:46
*** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting20:46
*** baoli has quit IRC20:47
*** baoli has joined #openstack-meeting20:47
*** diana_clarke has joined #openstack-meeting20:50
*** TxGirlGeek has joined #openstack-meeting20:53
*** takashin has joined #openstack-meeting20:53
*** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting20:54
*** pablo|500| has quit IRC20:57
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC20:57
*** ankur-gupta-f1 has left #openstack-meeting20:57
*** ankur-gupta-f has joined #openstack-meeting20:58
*** kaisers has joined #openstack-meeting20:58
*** dtp has joined #openstack-meeting20:59
mriedem#startmeeting nova21:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 19 21:00:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)"21:00
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova'21:00
mriedemoh hello21:00
*** e0ne has quit IRC21:00
mriedemwell let's get started21:01
mriedem#link agenda
comstudfor trolling purposes only21:01
mriedemdude you've been doing the drunken drive by the ex late at night thing all week21:02
comstudwhat's 1 more time21:02
mriedem#topic release news21:02
*** openstack changes topic to "release news (Meeting topic: nova)"21:02
mriedem#link Ocata release schedule:
mriedem#info Jan 19: final non-client library release (oslo, os-brick, os-win, os-vif)21:02
mriedemso today21:02
mriedemi assume harlowja got the oslo.serialization release reques tout21:02
mriedem*request out21:02
*** e0ne has joined #openstack-meeting21:02
harlowjamriedem yuppers21:02
mriedemthat was the only other thing we were waiting on21:02
mriedem#info Jan 26: o-3 milestone, final python-novaclient release, FeatureFreeze, Soft StringFreeze21:03
mriedemso 1 week from today is feature freeze21:03
mriedem#link Ocata blueprints
mriedem#info 68 total blueprints, 26 implemented, 37 need code review21:03
mriedemthere are a few bp-related changes approved but blocked from merging due to the mox3 breaker21:04
mriedemwhich itself is in the gate queue
mriedemso after that merges i'll be doing some rechecking21:04
*** jaugustine has joined #openstack-meeting21:04
mriedem#link Details on remaining blueprints:
mriedemany questions on the release?21:04
mriedemi don't plan on doing FFEs except maybe for things that are super low risk and are already basically approved but just missed the deadline21:05
*** unicell has joined #openstack-meeting21:05
mriedemfor things that haven't had solid review by the time FF rolls around we don't have the runway to make exceptions21:05
mriedem#topic  Bugs (stuck/critical)21:06
*** openstack changes topic to "Bugs (stuck/critical) (Meeting topic: nova)"21:06
mriedemthe only critical bug is that mox3 thing above, which is working its way through21:06
*** ijw has quit IRC21:06
mriedemnot much else for bugs,21:06
mriedemi did notice the new bug numbers were creeping up again21:07
mriedemsome easy triage in there21:07
mriedem#topic Reminders21:07
*** openstack changes topic to "Reminders (Meeting topic: nova)"21:07
mriedem#link Ocata review priorities
*** kaisers has quit IRC21:07
*** e0ne has quit IRC21:07
mriedem#info Deadline for submitting talks at the Pike summit is February 6th:
mriedemdansmith is submitting a talk for cells v221:07
mriedemand i believe jaypipes is going to submit a talk for placement21:08
mriedem#topic Stable branch status:
*** openstack changes topic to "Stable branch status: (Meeting topic: nova)"21:08
*** VW has quit IRC21:08
mriedemwe have quite a few pending reviews for stable/newton, including a series of changes to fix some placement bugs21:08
mriedemwill probably target a newton release next week, around o-321:09
mriedemwell, i'm on vacation next week so maybe the week after21:09
mriedem#topic subteam highlights21:09
*** openstack changes topic to "subteam highlights (Meeting topic: nova)"21:09
mriedemthere wasn't a cells v2 meeting this week since dansmith is on vacation, but there are notes in the cells v2 wiki here
*** unicell has quit IRC21:10
mriedemfor current known issues/bugs/todos/open questions21:10
*** jkilpatr has quit IRC21:10
mriedemedleafe: scheduler subteam stuff?21:10
edleafeI was on PTO, so cdent ran the meeting21:10
edleafeHe's on PTO today, so I'm summarizing from the log21:10
edleafeThe ProviderTree patch from jaypipes got some discussion21:10
edleafeStill lots to digest there21:10
edleafeThey also discussed the need for the 'can_host' field: whether it is needed long-term, or is it a short-term hack to deal with shared resources.21:10
edleafeNo resolution at the meeting, so more in store for discussion next week21:10
edleafeThat's about it21:10
mriedemwe had a hangout on monday about the can_host thing and i think cdent and jaypipes came to some conclusion there which should be back in the ML21:11
mriedemtdurakov: live migration subteam highlights?21:11
tdurakovupdate from the live-migration subteam:21:12
tdurakov- serial console hook for l-m job require core review/merge:
tdurakov- vnc console ci coverage:
tdurakov- nova cores to review the chain:
tdurakovmriedem: could you please check again the first one21:12
tdurakovmarkus_z answered to your comment, so is it ok to merge?21:12
mriedemyeah i need to read markus_z's reply in there21:12
*** jkilpatr has joined #openstack-meeting21:12
tdurakovthanks in advance21:12
mriedemsdague: alex_xu: api subteam highlights?21:13
mriedemi think the top priority is still working on the server filter/sort whitelist patches21:13
mriedemi'm not seeing anyone around from the sriov/pci subteam to report21:14
mriedemnotifications subteam, highlights from gibi:21:14
mriedem1. There is a lot of commit waiting for core review. The priority etherpad is up to date.21:14
mriedem2. There is a bug fix that would be really nice to have in Ocata but it might need further discussion. ML thread:
mriedem^ which is about having lazy-loaded fields in notifications21:15
*** nkrinner_afk has quit IRC21:15
*** absubram has joined #openstack-meeting21:15
mriedemok moving on21:15
mriedem#topic PTG Planning21:15
*** openstack changes topic to "PTG Planning (Meeting topic: nova)"21:15
mriedem#link Pike PTG planning:
mriedemwhich reminds me that i need to buy my ticket21:15
*** radeksmg has quit IRC21:16
*** radeks has quit IRC21:16
mriedemthe etherpad is filling up with topics though, some of it is stuff rolling over from ocata21:16
mriedemquestions about the PTG?21:16
mriedem#topic stuck reviews21:16
*** openstack changes topic to "stuck reviews (Meeting topic: nova)"21:16
mriedemthere was nothing on the agenda so does anyone have anything they need to bring up here?21:16
*** DavidPurcell has quit IRC21:16
*** dimtruck is now known as zz_dimtruck21:16
*** nkrinner_afk has joined #openstack-meeting21:16
mriedem#topic open discussion21:17
*** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)"21:17
mriedemdoes anyone have anything for open discussion?21:17
mriedemcomstud maybe?21:17
efriedPowerVM driver integration update21:17
mriedemefried: go ahead21:17
efriedChange sets on gerrit:
efriedCI work is ongoing to split into two environments - the new one with a (small, to start) whitelist for in-tree change sets.21:17
efriedOther than CI, three of the above change sets are ready for core review:21:17
efriedlocaldisk driver:
efriedVNC console:
efriedThe other three change sets are still WIP.  More will be coming down the pipe in relatively short order.21:18
efriedWe recognize that the majority of our in-tree work is going to be deferred past ocata.  Is there any special process we'll need to go through once the ocata release branch is tagged?21:18
mriedemefried: on the bottom change i see that the powervm ci is still failing21:18
mriedemefried: no we'll just defer to pike and resume there21:18
efriedmriedem: yes, see above - we're still working on getting our CI split out.21:18
tdurakovefried: are there any plans for multinode?21:19
efriedWe've got a (big, blacklist-oriented) setup for the OOT driver.21:19
mriedemtdurakov: their driver isn't supporting migration in-tree yet21:19
efriedWe're still working on splitting it up to get the in-tree (whitelist-oriented) one going.21:19
mriedemtdurakov: baby steps :)21:19
efriedYeah, that'll be coming "later".21:19
mriedemefried: any outlook on when the in-tree ci will be passing on that bottom change?21:20
mriedemlike EOW, early next week?21:20
*** jkilpatr has quit IRC21:20
efriedHoping next week some time, but don't have a firm handle on it yet.21:20
mriedembefore i review 2K LOC i'd like to see that passing :)21:20
mriedemok, keep thursday in mind21:20
efriedWhere's the trust?21:20
mriedemi don't trust anyone21:21
efriedAnd that's why you're still alive.21:21
mriedemok thanks for the update21:21
mriedemanyone else have anything for open discussion?21:21
comstudmriedem: i got nothing21:21
*** krtaylor has quit IRC21:21
mriedemcomstud: super21:21
mriedemkeep up the good work21:21
*** priteau has quit IRC21:21
mriedemalright, let's end it, thanks everyone21:21
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings ||"21:21
openstackMeeting ended Thu Jan 19 21:21:52 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at . (v 0.1.4)21:21
openstackMinutes (text):
*** dtp has left #openstack-meeting21:22
*** ankur-gupta-f has quit IRC21:22
*** bobh has joined #openstack-meeting21:22
*** zhonghua has joined #openstack-meeting21:23
*** zhonghua2 has quit IRC21:26
*** zeih has joined #openstack-meeting21:26
*** dprince has quit IRC21:28
*** dprince has joined #openstack-meeting21:28
*** eharney has quit IRC21:28
*** VW has joined #openstack-meeting21:29
*** woodster_ has joined #openstack-meeting21:30
*** zeih has quit IRC21:30
*** Sukhdev has joined #openstack-meeting21:30
*** jog0 has quit IRC21:34
*** jkilpatr has joined #openstack-meeting21:34
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting21:34
*** david-lyle has quit IRC21:35
*** krtaylor has joined #openstack-meeting21:35
*** salv-orlando has joined #openstack-meeting21:36
*** jog0 has joined #openstack-meeting21:36
*** alexpilotti has joined #openstack-meeting21:38
*** takashin has left #openstack-meeting21:38
*** alexpilo_ has quit IRC21:38
*** david-lyle has joined #openstack-meeting21:39
*** alij has quit IRC21:39
*** david-lyle has quit IRC21:39
*** david-lyle has joined #openstack-meeting21:39
*** jkilpatr has quit IRC21:42
*** zz_dimtruck is now known as dimtruck21:45
*** thorst_ has quit IRC21:45
*** siva_krishnan has joined #openstack-meeting21:45
*** johndperkins has joined #openstack-meeting21:47
*** ansmith has quit IRC21:48
*** fguillot has quit IRC21:56
*** askb has joined #openstack-meeting21:56
*** alexpilotti has quit IRC21:56
*** alexpilotti has joined #openstack-meeting21:57
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting21:57
*** cdelatte has quit IRC21:58
*** trevormc has joined #openstack-meeting22:01
* ihrachys waves at armax 22:01
*** alij has quit IRC22:02
armaxany other in the room?22:02
trevormchey guys22:02
armax#startmeeting neutron_drivers22:02
openstackMeeting started Thu Jan 19 22:02:25 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is armax. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.22:02
*** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)"22:02
openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers'22:02
*** jmckind has quit IRC22:02
armax#chair kevinbenton22:02
openstackCurrent chairs: armax kevinbenton22:02
armaxkevinbenton: since you’re so keen to use the #22:03
kevinbenton#dechair kevinbenton22:03
armaxkevinbenton: sush22:03
*** lpetrut has quit IRC22:03
armaxlet’s jump in22:04
armaxwe have a few specs open22:04
*** JoseMello has quit IRC22:05
armaxof the ones with +2, only seems ready to land22:05
armaxthe others have some negative feedback22:05
armaxare we ok with the port dataplane status extension?22:05
amotokiI am okay with this.22:05
armaxihrachys: you expressed your mild entushiasm22:06
* ihrachys keeps silence22:06
armaxkevinbenton: what about you?22:06
kevinbentonarmax: +222:06
armaxI’ll nudge it in after the meeting22:07
armaxbefore jumping into the list of triaged RFEs22:07
armaxis there anything more pressing to discuss?22:07
*** bzhao_ has joined #openstack-meeting22:08
*** brianstajkowski1 has joined #openstack-meeting22:08
*** Leo_ has quit IRC22:09
armaxdo you guys realize that this is my second to last time I ran the drivers meeting?22:09
*** esberglu has joined #openstack-meeting22:09
armaxor maybe third to last22:10
ihrachysarmax: we can give you honor runs in the future22:10
kevinbentonwhat about when you run for PTL for the Q cycle?22:10
armaxihrachys: it’s a privilege I kindly decline22:10
armaxthanks though22:10
*** thorst_ has joined #openstack-meeting22:11
armaxok let’s continue22:11
armaxI have these list in front of me22:12
armaxbug #152582422:13
openstackbug 1525824 in neutron "[RFE] Add a 'promiscuous mode' extension for ports" [Wishlist,Triaged]
armaxany thoughts on this one?22:14
armaxI think it could be a nice addition to the ability of neutron to serve NFV workloads22:14
ihrachysI am not sure I grasp... which switch does flood the VM port?22:14
kevinbentoni'm confused about this22:14
kevinbentondo they want promiscuous traffic?22:15
*** thorst_ has quit IRC22:15
armaxkevinbenton: that’s my understanding22:15
kevinbentonbut the description says they don't want it to improve performance22:16
armaxhang on22:16
armaxthey mentioned about mac learning, which is this feature that the nsx plugin provides22:16
amotokiI haven't grasped this.... nsx plugin maclearning extension is also mentioned. what does maclearnig ext do?22:17
ihrachysmaybe they mean that backends don't want to implement it globally for all ports, but just for those that users picked.22:17
armaxit’s like you want your VM’s to receive traffic for difference destination MACs22:17
*** jkilpatr has joined #openstack-meeting22:17
amotokiso, do we want to set vnic to promiscous mode selectively? it sounds reasonable22:19
ihrachysI think it makes sense, but description would need some love. and I believe a write-up of how it's gonna be managed in ovs bridge would also help.22:19
armaxamotoki: that’s what I understand22:19
kevinbentonyeah, i suppose promiscuous would be default then22:19
armaxihrachys: right, this needs a full blown spec22:19
kevinbentoni mean non-promiscuous22:20
armaxkevinbenton: right22:20
ihrachyskevinbenton: you mean NON-promiscuous22:20
ihrachysok nevermind :)22:20
armaxkevinbenton: NON NON!!22:20
armaxkevinbenton: don’t confuse us further22:20
ihrachysnon non... double negation gives us...22:20
armaxihrachys: NON. NON22:20
kevinbentonyeah, i'm okay with proceeding with this22:21
*** diana_clarke has left #openstack-meeting22:21
armaxlet’s get to the next stage of spec definition22:21
armaxI just remember something22:21
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting22:22
armaxfor blueprint live-migration-portbinding22:22
armaxI wonder if I got the approver/assignee right22:22
armaxbut I suppose I can reach out the folks directly22:22
armaxbrianstajkowski1: ^22:23
ihrachysyeah we probably need someone with +2 hammer for that22:23
*** salv-orl_ has joined #openstack-meeting22:24
armaxihrachys: I don’t like the picture of that22:24
armaxok, moving on22:24
armaxbug #154189522:24
openstackbug 1541895 in neutron "[RFE] [IPAM] Make IPAM driver a per-subnet pool option" [Wishlist,Triaged]
ihrachysarmax: whack a mole22:24
ihrachysok, re ipam one, it makes sense, but the question is, who is going to implement it. I haven't seen infoblox folks active lately, and L3 subteam lost some diamonds lately..22:25
armaxihrachys: yeah22:25
armaxthat’s what I was thinking22:26
*** alij has quit IRC22:26
*** imcsk8 has quit IRC22:27
*** salv-orlando has quit IRC22:27
armaxWe should involve haleyb as well as mlavalle to see if they have any interest in this one22:27
ihrachysI generally want us to push back for proposals with no clear volunteers. so in this case, I would start with talking to the reporter and l3 subteam on whether they can give resources for that in next cycle. if not, we just postpone/Won't Fix for now.22:27
kevinbentonyeah, i can see the use case but I'm not sure who would implement it22:27
armaxihrachys: we have marked this Incomplete once22:28
armaxwe can do it again22:28
ihrachysit's not incomplete, it's just maybe out of scope :)22:28
armaxrfe-deferred, then?22:28
ihrachysthe use case is clear, the proposal is ok, it just maybe doesn't fit22:28
armaxbut in reality all RFEs are out of scope if they don’t have volunteers22:29
ihrachysI am honestly lost in all RFE states22:29
*** adrianofr_ has quit IRC22:29
amotokitend to agree. there seems use cases, but there are several choices on approaches...22:29
armaxonce we agree that the use case is legit22:30
*** HeOS_ has quit IRC22:30
armaxthen it’s a matter of finding a) who is gonna churn the code, and b) who is gonna review the code22:30
armaxbut to start with we need a proper spec22:30
*** baoli has quit IRC22:30
armaxand that means the balls goes back into belamaric’s court22:30
ihrachyswould be cool if we also make it clear that writing a spec without lining up resources won't get the effort much forward22:32
armaxihrachys: true22:32
ihrachysI saw a lot of specs written that don't happen22:32
armaxihrachys: that can happen for all sorts of different reasons22:33
ihrachysyea. I guess we have a path forward here?22:33
armaxgood and bad22:33
armaxI think so22:33
armaxsame goes with bug 158369422:34
openstackbug 1583694 in neutron "[RFE] DVR support for Allowed_address_pair port that are bound to multiple ACTIVE VM ports" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Swaminathan Vasudevan (swaminathan-vasudevan)22:34
armaxthat also needs a spec so that we can nail down on the way forward22:35
armaxbut if we lack someone interested in pushing it forward, the use case, even though legit is never gonna go anywhere22:35
kevinbentonwe can revisit this one22:37
armaxbug #159200022:37
openstackbug 1592000 in neutron "[RFE] Admin customized default security-group" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Roey Chen (roeyc)22:37
kevinbentoni may need to solve this for another use case that has come up22:37
armaxwe’ve gone back and forth about this one22:37
armaxeven though there’s no-one screaming for this, it looks like nova-net has/had this capability of customizing the default security group22:38
kevinbentonarmax: let's just do it then :)22:38
njohnstonThis is something we have definitely thought about having in FWaaS, although it is not there yet it's something I'll be shooting for in Pike.22:39
armaxmy opionin still stand thoguh22:39
openstackLaunchpad bug 1592000 in neutron "[RFE] Admin customized default security-group" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Roey Chen (roeyc)22:39
ihrachysnjohnston: consider how you are going to handle the compatibility issue expressed in bug comments22:39
armaxI am ok with the use case, I only wonder whether this should be FWaaS rather than security group as njohnston also pointed out22:40
*** thorst_ has joined #openstack-meeting22:40
armaxI am not convinced this should be crammed into the existing default security group semantic22:40
njohnstonFor FWaaS it's a special subset of the shared firewall policy model, that could be opted into by interested operators22:41
armaxkevinbenton: I should have -2 it22:41
kevinbentonnjohnston: but the vms will still have a default security group that doesn't allow anything though, no?22:41
armaxthat’s an abomination22:41
kevinbentoni thought you would like it :)22:43
njohnstonkevinbenton: Not necessarily.  Let's say an operator creates a shared firewall policy that allows ssh from a special sanctified jumphost but deny/deny for everything else, and that operator makes that the default security group for all new tenants that get made, I could see the use care for thaty22:43
*** thorst_ has quit IRC22:43
armaxkevinbenton: creating a security group, stopping neutron-server, changing the config file and restarting the neutron-server (and all the replicas)? sure22:43
armaxthat’s the greatest usability I have ever experienced22:43
kevinbentonnjohnston: oh, well if the operator is changing the default security group for each tenant22:43
kevinbentonnjohnston: then that makes sense22:44
kevinbentonarmax: I wrote that patch before neutron supported multiple servers :P22:44
*** sdake_ has quit IRC22:44
armaxkevinbenton: that’s only 6 months old22:44
armaxdon’t lie to me22:44
njohnstonthis seems like an operator-serving feature more than a consumer of the operator's cloud-serving feature in any event because it happens on tenant creation22:44
*** gouthamr has quit IRC22:45
armaxafter what njohnston said, it sounds to me that the way forward with this is to allow it with fwaas22:46
armaxI don’t think there’s any appetite to have this done with security groups22:46
armaxI certainly don’t have it22:46
armaxihrachys, amotoki, kevinbenton?22:46
ihrachysagain, even in context of fwaas, you should think about how you make your api users detect the operator opted in the model22:47
armaxihrachys: agreed22:47
amotokiI am not sure that combination of SG and FWaaS helps the situation...22:47
njohnstonihrachys: agreed22:47
armaxbut we can make figure that out on a spec22:47
ihrachysarmax: I can't see a correct way to make it for security groups, as stated in comments; maybe fwaas is different, but I lack details.22:47
amotokiit seems what the reportor wants is they just want to provide more convenient default rules.22:48
armaxamotoki: right, but that has problems22:48
amotokiyes, interoperability issue :(22:48
armaxthere’s a difference between what a single desires and the benefit for everybody else involved in the community :)22:48
*** adiantum has quit IRC22:49
*** ianychoi has joined #openstack-meeting22:49
*** adiantum1 has joined #openstack-meeting22:49
*** esberglu has quit IRC22:50
armaxmoving on22:51
amotokieven though we keep SG API compatibility, if operators applies FWaaS rules by default, filtering behavior will no longer compatible across clouds....22:51
*** adiantum1 is now known as adiantum22:51
armaxamotoki: but we can figure out ways in which that can be detected22:51
armaxretrofitting this on the security group well established behavior would be a lot more painful22:52
ihrachysarmax: retroactively? not sure.22:52
ihrachysbut I think it's a separate discussion; we decided it's not secgroup thing.22:52
armaxihrachys: yes, that would be my take22:53
*** bobh has quit IRC22:53
amotokiyes, it is a different topic. anyway I agree that changing the current security group behavior is confusing.22:54
armaxI dropped for a sec22:55
armaxyou guys can still see me?22:55
armaxlet see if we can squeeze22:56
armaxbug #22:56
*** designbybeck has quit IRC22:56
armaxbug 160534322:56
openstackbug 1605343 in neutron "[rfe] update CIDR for subnet" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Vladimir Eremin (yottatsa)22:56
armaxI was close to rejecting this once22:56
armaxI am inclined to reject it agian22:56
ihrachysshrinking definitely won't happen22:57
ihrachysas for expansion, Vladimir has an uncovered use case in comment 822:57
*** Swami_ has joined #openstack-meeting22:58
armaxI think that was in response to my comment of adding another subnet22:58
armaxto the lot22:58
*** ekcs has quit IRC22:58
armaxbut that would need to happen in such as way that they do not overlap22:58
amotokicomment 8 sounds a different story..22:58
armaxwhich I think it’s what already happens22:58
*** ijw has joined #openstack-meeting22:59
armaxwe’re at time22:59
armaxlet’s continue the discussion on the bug report22:59
*** ekcs has joined #openstack-meeting22:59
*** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings ||"23:00
openstackMeeting ended Thu Jan 19 23:00:04 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at . (v 0.1.4)23:00
openstackMinutes (text):
armaxthanks everyone23:00
*** lamt has quit IRC23:00
*** lamt has joined #openstack-meeting23:01
*** Swami has quit IRC23:01
*** gouthamr has joined #openstack-meeting23:02
*** ijw_ has joined #openstack-meeting23:02
jaypipesmriedem: actually I submitted two talks for placement.23:02
*** ijw has quit IRC23:02
*** trevormc has left #openstack-meeting23:02
*** Swami_ has quit IRC23:03
*** david-lyle has quit IRC23:03
*** tommylikehu_ has joined #openstack-meeting23:03
mriedemjaypipes: orly23:04
mriedem1. wtf is it23:04
mriedem2. htf do you deploy and/or upgrade properly with it23:04
*** tommylikehu_ has quit IRC23:05
jaypipesmriedem: one was for operators/architects/deployers higher-level talk, the other talk was the nitty gritty for devs.23:05
*** absubram has quit IRC23:05
mriedemmmm i like nitty gritty23:05
*** lamt has quit IRC23:06
mriedemdevs like mlavalle23:06
*** absubram has joined #openstack-meeting23:09
*** krtaylor has quit IRC23:10
kevinbentonmriedem, jaypipes: this channel is for meetings only. violate that rule again and you will have your passports revoked23:13
jaypipeskevinbenton: unduly noted.23:13
mriedemthat sounds like a perk actually23:15
mriedemkevinbenton: i'm fine taking my silliness to the neutron channel where the professionals are23:15
jaypipeskevinbenton: it is Silly Valley after all.23:15
kevinbentonmriedem: that channel is for very serious business #serious #yolo23:16
mriedemnothing says professional like hashtags with everything one says23:16
mriedemi mean, if it's profressional enough for the US president elect, it's profressional enough for me23:16
mriedemjesus i typoed that twice23:17
kevinbentoni wonder when companies will start putting hashtags in job titles?23:17
*** makowals has quit IRC23:17
mriedemibm has new collar jobs so probably then23:17
kevinbentonvery unprofressional of you23:17
mriedemwhich only makes me think of this guy
*** alij has joined #openstack-meeting23:18
kevinbentontriple collar jobs23:19
*** armax has quit IRC23:19
*** mriedem has quit IRC23:21
*** matrohon has quit IRC23:21
*** edtubill has quit IRC23:22
*** priteau has joined #openstack-meeting23:22
*** amotoki has quit IRC23:22
*** gyee has joined #openstack-meeting23:22
*** sacharya_ has joined #openstack-meeting23:23
*** alij has quit IRC23:23
*** absubram has quit IRC23:23
*** sacharya has quit IRC23:23
*** jaugustine has quit IRC23:24
*** dave-johnston has quit IRC23:25
*** priteau has quit IRC23:27
*** yuvalb has quit IRC23:33
*** saggi has quit IRC23:33
*** TxGirlGeek has quit IRC23:33
*** yuvalb has joined #openstack-meeting23:33
*** saggi has joined #openstack-meeting23:33
*** beekhof_mb has joined #openstack-meeting23:35
*** gyee has quit IRC23:36
*** gyee has joined #openstack-meeting23:39
*** dmacpher has quit IRC23:43
*** thorst_ has joined #openstack-meeting23:44
*** adiantum has quit IRC23:44
*** adiantum1 has joined #openstack-meeting23:44
*** mickeys has quit IRC23:44
*** adiantum1 is now known as adiantum23:46
*** Swami has joined #openstack-meeting23:46
*** thorst_ has quit IRC23:48
*** neiljerram has quit IRC23:48
*** pradk has quit IRC23:49
*** Swami has quit IRC23:49
*** Swami has joined #openstack-meeting23:49
*** Swami_ has joined #openstack-meeting23:49
*** ihrachys has quit IRC23:50
*** rbak has quit IRC23:56
*** makowals has joined #openstack-meeting23:56
*** Swami__ has joined #openstack-meeting23:57
*** rbudden has quit IRC23:57
*** mickeys has joined #openstack-meeting23:58
*** saju_m has quit IRC23:58
*** sdague has quit IRC23:58
*** pradk has joined #openstack-meeting23:59

Generated by 2.14.0 by Marius Gedminas - find it at!