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| huzhj | #startmeeting daisycloud | 08:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Fri Jan 20 08:00:51 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is huzhj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: daisycloud)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'daisycloud' | 08:00 |
| huzhj | #topic Roll Call | 08:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: daisycloud)" | 08:01 | |
| huzhj | #info Zhijiang | 08:01 |
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| huzhj | #topic OPNFV: Daisy CI Progress | 08:13 |
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| huzhj | #info We are a new Virtual POD to OPNFV | 08:18 |
| huzhj | #info integrate with functest after approved | 08:18 |
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| huzhj | #action Yao will try to analisys the reason why management IP can not be set on the target node after OS installation | 08:21 |
| huzhj | #topic OPNFV: Daisy Support Escalator | 08:21 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OPNFV: Daisy Support Escalator (Meeting topic: daisycloud)" | 08:21 | |
| huzhj | #topic OpenStack: Core Code Definition Wind Up | 08:22 |
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| huzhj | #info files left over:code/daisy/daisy/api/v1/ | 08:30 |
| huzhj | code/daisy/daisy/api/v1/clusters.py | 08:30 |
| huzhj | code/daisy/daisy/api/v1/template.py | 08:30 |
| huzhj | code/daisy/daisy/api/v1/host_template.py | 08:30 |
| huzhj | code/daisy/daisy/api/backends/osinstall/pxe/install.py | 08:30 |
| huzhj | code/daisy/daisy/common/utils.py | 08:30 |
| huzhj | code/daisy/daisy/registry/api/v1/hosts.py | 08:30 |
| huzhj | #info code/daisy/daisy/api/v1/clusters.py | 08:30 |
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| huzhj | #info code/daisy/daisy/api/backends/osinstall/pxe/install.py | 08:30 |
| huzhj | #info code/daisy/daisy/common/utils.py | 08:30 |
| huzhj | #info code/daisy/daisy/registry/api/v1/hosts.py | 08:30 |
| huzhj | #info Yao is working on code/daisy/daisy/api/v1/host_template.py | 08:30 |
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| huzhj | #info action next is code/daisy/daisy/api/backends/osinstall/pxe/install.py , Yao and Ya are working on it | 08:32 |
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| huzhj | #topic OpenStack: Choose Kolla Image Version To Deploy/Upgrade | 08:32 |
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| huzhj | #info from Ya, daisy DONE | 08:36 |
| huzhj | #info from Jing, WEB not DONE | 08:36 |
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| huzhj | #topic AoB | 08:36 |
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| ttx | dhellmann: meeting? | 15:01 |
| dhellmann | #startmeeting releaseteam | 15:01 |
| openstack | dhellmann: Error: Can't start another meeting, one is in progress. Use #endmeeting first. | 15:01 |
| dhellmann | sorry, wrapping up a call | 15:01 |
| ttx | #endmeeting | 15:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 15:01 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Jan 20 15:01:47 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/daisycloud/2017/daisycloud.2017-01-20-08.00.html | 15:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/daisycloud/2017/daisycloud.2017-01-20-08.00.txt | 15:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/daisycloud/2017/daisycloud.2017-01-20-08.00.log.html | 15:01 |
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| dhellmann | sorry, wrapping up a call | 15:02 |
| dhellmann | #startmeeting releaseteam | 15:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Fri Jan 20 15:02:26 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is dhellmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:02 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'releaseteam' | 15:02 |
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| dhellmann | this is week R-5 | 15:02 |
| dhellmann | our agenda is in the etherpad, as ususal | 15:03 |
| dhellmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-relmgt-tracking | 15:03 |
| dhellmann | #topic review late releasing libraries | 15:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "review late releasing libraries (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:03 | |
| dhellmann | looking in the inbox, I only see a client lib so that can wait | 15:04 |
| dhellmann | and the oslo branches can be processed when harlowja +1s that patch | 15:04 |
| ttx | any idea if we have cycle-with-intermediary libraries that weren't refreshed within ocata ? | 15:04 |
| sigmavirus | o/ | 15:04 |
| ttx | and do we care ? | 15:04 |
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| dhellmann | ttx: so far only client libs, I sent a list to the ML today | 15:04 |
| dhellmann | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/110582.html | 15:05 |
| dhellmann | oops, forgot to courtesy ping ttx, dims, sigmavirus, fungi, stevemar | 15:05 |
| ttx | everything else was refreshed at least once ? | 15:05 |
| dims | o/ | 15:05 |
| dhellmann | ttx: yes, according to list-deliverables | 15:05 |
| ttx | let's trust list-deliverables! | 15:05 |
| dhellmann | all of the things that existed in newton had stub data files copied to the ocata dir, and list-deliverables produced the list in the email linked above | 15:06 |
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| ttx | not bad, given ocata is short and a bit low | 15:06 |
| dhellmann | yeah | 15:06 |
| dhellmann | I'd like to figure out a way to notice that clients aren't releasing earlier in the cycle, though | 15:06 |
| dhellmann | maybe add a step to the process at milestones or something | 15:06 |
| ttx | we coudl introduce a notive by milestone-2 | 15:07 |
| ttx | notice | 15:07 |
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| dhellmann | good idea | 15:07 |
| * ttx writes it down | 15:07 | |
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| dhellmann | ideally we wouldn't have patches to libs go unreleased for more than a week | 15:07 |
| dhellmann | because if a release breaks something, and the change is 2 months old, it's not going to be fresh in anyone's mind for debugging | 15:08 |
| sdague | dhellmann: ++ | 15:08 |
| dhellmann | maybe a periodic job could send a list out | 15:08 |
| ttx | maybe a week is a bit short, but yes | 15:08 |
| dhellmann | we have the tools to produce the list | 15:08 |
| dhellmann | anyway, ideas for next cycle | 15:09 |
| dhellmann | moving on | 15:09 |
| dhellmann | #topic team availability next week for b3 tagging | 15:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "team availability next week for b3 tagging (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:09 | |
| dhellmann | it's not a very big concern, but I wanted to make sure I knew who would be around next week | 15:09 |
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| dims | i'll be around dhellmann | 15:09 |
| dhellmann | I expect to be, though it's possible I'll be working remotely | 15:09 |
| ttx | I'll be around | 15:09 |
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| dhellmann | fungi : does the infra team have someone lined up to fight fires for the feature freeze deadline? | 15:10 |
| ttx | travel madness starts Saturday morning next week | 15:10 |
| dims | i may be off for some time on 26th | 15:10 |
| dims | ttx : where are you off to? | 15:10 |
| dhellmann | dims : ack, noted | 15:10 |
| ttx | so many places I can't list them all | 15:10 |
| dhellmann | oof | 15:10 |
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| dims | safe travels :) | 15:10 |
| ttx | because everyone knows January/February are the best months to travel | 15:11 |
| fungi | i'll be sequestered january 29 through february 3, but am otherwise available | 15:11 |
| fungi | at least up until ptg time | 15:11 |
| dhellmann | "sequestered" sounds ominous | 15:11 |
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| ttx | but accurate | 15:11 |
| dhellmann | ok then | 15:12 |
| fungi | but yeah, next week you can count on me to focus on any release-blocking fires | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | cool, thanks | 15:12 |
| dims | thanks fungi | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | ttx, I think you're up next here | 15:12 |
| dhellmann | #topic Review remaining tasks in Ocata plan | 15:12 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Review remaining tasks in Ocata plan (Meeting topic: releaseteam)" | 15:12 | |
| ttx | yep | 15:12 |
| ttx | I listed the things still in Ocata plan | 15:13 |
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| ttx | want to discuss if they should stay there and be completed in the coming month | 15:13 |
| ttx | or moved to pike | 15:13 |
| ttx | or abandoned | 15:13 |
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| ttx | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-relmgt-plan | 15:13 |
| ttx | First one is Automation 7 "we need to add to the checklist for marking a release EOL to update the info on releases.o.o" | 15:14 |
| ttx | ok, let's comment on the etherpad directly | 15:14 |
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| ttx | OK, so a couple TODOs and otherwise add to backlog for final call in ATL | 15:18 |
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| dhellmann | sounds good | 15:18 |
| ttx | Nothing needing to be completed by EOC | 15:18 |
| ttx | except the one HIGH TDO | 15:18 |
| dhellmann | the pike release schedule? | 15:18 |
| ttx | #action ttx to move last TODOs to Pike plan | 15:18 |
| ttx | yes | 15:18 |
| ttx | next topic | 15:18 |
| dhellmann | yes, I'm getting questions about that more often | 15:18 |
| dhellmann | is there anything else on this topic? | 15:20 |
| ttx | no | 15:20 |
| dhellmann | ok | 15:20 |
| dhellmann | #topic open discussion | 15:20 |
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| dhellmann | that's all we had on the formal agenda for today | 15:20 |
| dhellmann | does anyone have anything else to bring up? | 15:20 |
| ttx | err no there was one more | 15:20 |
| dhellmann | ? | 15:20 |
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| dims | we use "security-supported" on https://releases.openstack.org/, do we define it anywhere (exactly?) | 15:20 |
| ttx | HIGH TODO status review - Define and publish Pike release schedule | 15:20 |
| dhellmann | oops | 15:20 |
| dhellmann | #undo | 15:20 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #topic open discussion | 15:20 |
| dhellmann | #topic pike schedule | 15:20 |
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| ttx | So we are now 60% sure that we can have PTG2 during Sept11 week (rather than Sept18) so I think we can start working on a strawman schedule | 15:21 |
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| dhellmann | I misread the indentation level there | 15:21 |
| ttx | in the spare time between release work next week | 15:21 |
| ttx | try to see where we can make milestones fall wrt. events / holidays and all | 15:21 |
| ttx | Release August 31, Ff July 27, RC1 Aug 10 | 15:21 |
| dhellmann | oh, good | 15:22 |
| ttx | It's not sure at all though | 15:22 |
| ttx | It's just that it's the most likely option at this stage | 15:22 |
| ttx | used to be 40/40/20 | 15:22 |
| ttx | Now it's 60/40/0 | 15:22 |
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| ttx | but I think strong enough that we can prepare something | 15:22 |
| dhellmann | should we prepare copies of both schedules, or focus on 11 sept? | 15:23 |
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| ttx | I guess we could prepare two versions | 15:23 |
| dhellmann | it's only a week, they won't be *that* different | 15:23 |
| ttx | won't work on it today anyway, and might have more news early next week | 15:23 |
| fungi | i have a feeling it wouldn't look too different as they're only a week offset | 15:23 |
| dhellmann | ok | 15:24 |
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| ttx | let's just plan to spend a few minutes into strawmen next week | 15:24 |
| fungi | declare an extra rc week or extra dead week or something | 15:24 |
| dhellmann | let's focus on the slightly shorter schedule. no one is going to complain if we end up giving them an extra week. | 15:24 |
| ttx | that is all I had | 15:24 |
| dhellmann | ttx: do you want to take that on, or should I start it? | 15:24 |
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| ttx | I can work on it you can break it down | 15:25 |
| dhellmann | ok | 15:25 |
| ttx | takes two to play strawman | 15:25 |
| dhellmann | ++ | 15:25 |
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| dhellmann | #topic open discussion | 15:25 |
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| fungi | dims: support phases are defined (at least) in the stable branches section of the project team guide | 15:25 |
| dhellmann | dims, you had a question about security-supported | 15:25 |
| fungi | #link http://docs.openstack.org/project-team-guide/stable-branches.html#support-phases | 15:25 |
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| dhellmann | ah, yes, thanks, fungi | 15:25 |
| dhellmann | we should probably link to that | 15:25 |
| fungi | sgtm | 15:26 |
| dhellmann | I'll throw together a patch | 15:26 |
| dims | fungi : dhellmann : does "security-supported" mean phase II or III? | 15:26 |
| dims | "Current stable release, security-supported" == Phase II? | 15:26 |
| fungi | phase 3 is when we only support in a security capacity | 15:27 |
| dims | Security-supported == Phase III? | 15:27 |
| fungi | so depending on how you interpret the term, security support would be from phase 1 through 3 | 15:27 |
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| dims | fungi : dhellmann : so we should publish phase number in the https://releases.openstack.org/ ? | 15:27 |
| fungi | critical fix support is provided only in phases 1 and 2 | 15:27 |
| dhellmann | it would be good of the 2 sites used the same terminology | 15:27 |
| dims | right | 15:28 |
| fungi | yeah, i agree we should settle on one term and not use conflicting models for the same concepts | 15:28 |
| dims | ++ | 15:28 |
| dhellmann | maybe we can update the PTG to use the more descriptive terms? | 15:28 |
| dhellmann | or combine them somehow? | 15:28 |
| ttx | or stop using confusing acronyms :) | 15:28 |
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| fungi | we should combine the project team guide with the project teams gathering | 15:29 |
| dhellmann | http://www.writethedocs.org | 15:29 |
| dims | LOL | 15:29 |
| ttx | fungi: I thought they were the same thing | 15:29 |
| dhellmann | alright, I'll take a stab at clarifying/unifying the guide and the releases site early next week | 15:30 |
| dims | thanks dhellmann | 15:30 |
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| dhellmann | I think that's it, then | 15:30 |
| dhellmann | thanks, everyone! | 15:30 |
| dhellmann | #endmeeting | 15:31 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Fri Jan 20 15:31:07 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2017/releaseteam.2017-01-20-15.02.html | 15:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2017/releaseteam.2017-01-20-15.02.txt | 15:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/releaseteam/2017/releaseteam.2017-01-20-15.02.log.html | 15:31 |
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