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| gongysh | hi | 05:30 |
| sridhar_ram | #startmeeting tacker | 05:31 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 25 05:31:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is sridhar_ram. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 05:31 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 05:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tacker)" | 05:31 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tacker' | 05:31 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Roll Call | 05:31 |
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| diga | o/ | 05:31 |
| sridhar_ram | Howdy all ! | 05:31 |
| s3wong | o/ | 05:31 |
| * gongysh here | 05:31 | |
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| sridhar_ram | gongysh: s3wong: diga: hi ! | 05:31 |
| sridhar_ram | anyone else ? | 05:31 |
| gongysh | these days are near chinese spring festeral | 05:32 |
| diga | :) | 05:32 |
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| sridhar_ram | gongysh: i see, so light crowd that region ? | 05:32 |
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| gongysh | next meeting I will be absent | 05:32 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: okay, noted | 05:32 |
| sridhar_ram | let's start ... | 05:33 |
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| tbh | o/ | 05:33 |
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| xuhaiwei | hi | 05:33 |
| janki | o/ | 05:33 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: xuhaiwei: hi | 05:33 |
| xuhaiwei | hi sridhar_ram | 05:33 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Announcements | 05:33 |
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| sridhar_ram | For the folks who might have missed, I'm not running for Pike PTL... | 05:34 |
| sridhar_ram | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/110436.html | 05:34 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, we need you | 05:35 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh has announced his candidacy | 05:35 |
| sridhar_ram | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/110637.html | 05:35 |
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| sridhar_ram | gongysh: thanks for stepping up ! | 05:35 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: i'm not going anywhere, will be around | 05:36 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, thanks | 05:36 |
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| sridhar_ram | Regarding team changes I've proposed few changed to the core team... | 05:36 |
| sridhar_ram | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/110866.html | 05:36 |
| diga | sridhar_ram: Thanks for your leadership in Takcer projects. | 05:37 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: thanks for all your support so far .. your guidance is much appreciated | 05:37 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram: it has been a great ride --- hopefully I will be able to get back to more actively contribute to project | 05:38 |
| sridhar_ram | not many here would know, s3wong is the one who submitted the vancouver talk submission that resurrected Tacker towards NFV Orchestration | 05:38 |
| gongysh | s3wong, thanks for the long support on this project. | 05:38 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: absolutely, would be glad to see you more active in this project | 05:38 |
| s3wong | sridhar_ram, gongysh: no problem. Great to see the project thriving after that talk --- much of it of course was due to sridhar_ram's leadership | 05:39 |
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| tbh | s3wong, great work. would like to see you again active in Tacker | 05:39 |
| sridhar_ram | s3wong: means a lots, thanks.. but mine pales compared to many, many hours spent by the contributors ... | 05:40 |
| s3wong | tbh: Thanks! | 05:40 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha is not here to give a shout out.. we can save it for next time | 05:40 |
| sridhar_ram | next.. | 05:40 |
| sridhar_ram | #info Ocata tackerclient 0.9.0 is release | 05:41 |
| sridhar_ram | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/release-announce/2017-January/000453.html | 05:41 |
| sridhar_ram | s/release/released/ | 05:41 |
| sridhar_ram | thanks for everyone who helped to make this deadline comfortably | 05:41 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, cannot we release tackerclient at our comfortable time? | 05:42 |
| sridhar_ram | note, stable/ocata is pulled for python-tackerclient.. any last minute tackerclient fix need to go to master and cherrypicked to stable/ocata | 05:42 |
| gongysh | for examale 0.9.1 0.9.2 xxx | 05:42 |
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| sridhar_ram | gongysh: tacker is marked as "cycle-with-intermediary" .. so we got to make a release co-inciding with the milestone deadline | 05:43 |
| dkushwaha | o/ | 05:43 |
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| dkushwaha | sorry for late | 05:43 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: we still can make 0.9.1, 0.9.2, etc as bug fix releases .. but there are lots of restrictions as it comes under the openstack stable team | 05:44 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: basically, no new features, no requirements or db schema change, etc | 05:44 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: howdy! | 05:44 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: once the election is over, i'll walk you w/ the release process | 05:45 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, got it. thanks | 05:45 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: in case you missed, I've proposed you to join the core-team.. thanks for your efforts | 05:46 |
| sridhar_ram | last announcement... | 05:46 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, Just checked mails. Thanks for proposing me as core member | 05:46 |
| tbh | congrats dkushwaha | 05:47 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, It encourage me to work harder. I will try to do my best for Tacker | 05:47 |
| gongysh | dkushwaha, you deserve it. thanks | 05:47 |
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| dkushwaha | tbh, thanks buddy :) | 05:47 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: you are doing great, keep it up ! | 05:47 |
| dkushwaha | gongysh, thanks | 05:47 |
| xuhaiwei | dkushwaha: congrets | 05:47 |
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| sridhar_ram | #info OpenStack Summit Boston Presentation Submission deadline - UNTIL 11:59PM PST ON FEBRUARY 6, 2017 (7:59 ON FEBRUARY 7, 2017 UTC) | 05:48 |
| dkushwaha | xuhaiwei, Thanks Xu San | 05:48 |
| sridhar_ram | Folks - please start thinking about talk submissions related to tacker for Boston summit.. | 05:48 |
| diga | s3wong: dkushwaha gongysh : All the best for election! | 05:48 |
| xuhaiwei | sridhar_ram: I have registered a proposal about using Senlin for tacker vnf auto-scaling and HA | 05:49 |
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| sridhar_ram | please collaborate to co-present as many talks submissions as possible | 05:49 |
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| sridhar_ram | xuhaiwei: wonderful ! mark it for cross-project | 05:49 |
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| xuhaiwei | sridhar_ram: ok | 05:50 |
| sridhar_ram | that's one loong announcement | 05:50 |
| sridhar_ram | moving on | 05:50 |
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| sridhar_ram | #topic Ocata Status | 05:50 |
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| sridhar_ram | #topic NSD | 05:50 |
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| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: tbh: what is pending for NSD ? | 05:50 |
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| tbh | sridhar_ram, api_ref is pending, I am planning seperate PS and not to add in present patch | 05:51 |
| dkushwaha | sridhar_ram, I have to write more test cases. I am planning it in follow-up patches. | 05:52 |
| gongysh | I will +2 if the functional test CI passed and I have tested it mannually. | 05:52 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: make sense to have a separate PS | 05:52 |
| sridhar_ram | dkushwaha: okay | 05:52 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, can I push patch to revert novaclient changes? | 05:52 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: dkushwaha: please use the work-items listed in https://blueprints.launchpad.net/tacker/+spec/nsd-support as the checklist | 05:53 |
| tbh | gongysh, FTs are failing because of recent change in novaclient, need to revert that | 05:53 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: yes, we need a clean run for NSD ps to merge.. | 05:53 |
| sridhar_ram | overall nice progress! | 05:53 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, cores need review for tacker horizon patch for nsd | 05:54 |
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| sridhar_ram | gongysh: once you +2 i'll merge it and include it in the intermediary release of tacker and tacker-horizon (EOD Wed) | 05:54 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: okay, it will be good to wrap nsd horizon by tomorrow as well.. | 05:55 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: will review it | 05:55 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, thanks! | 05:55 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, EOD Wed, one day left? | 05:55 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: yes :) | 05:55 |
| * gongysh is pushed tight | 05:56 | |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: this is just intermediate release, not the final Ocata release .. consider it a "preview" release | 05:56 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: no worries, some else can review the tacker-horizon part .. we still have room (2 - 3 weeks) for bug fixes and api-ref before the final release | 05:57 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: dkushwaha: please flag any issues related to NSD early.. it is one of the marquee features of Ocata | 05:58 |
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| sridhar_ram | #topic inline vnf template | 05:58 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, sure | 05:58 |
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| gongysh | tbh, do you have link for nova change that is blocking our FT CI? | 05:58 |
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| sridhar_ram | jchhatbar: howdy, can you give an update on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416215/ ? | 05:59 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, recently pushed change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/424277/ for novaclient change in 7.0.0 | 06:00 |
| tbh | gongysh, ^^ | 06:00 |
| tbh | gongysh, but not novaclient 7.0.0 is blacklisted... so need to revert this | 06:00 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: i'm still baffled a bit, i was expecting even the older novaclient shd accept named params.. | 06:01 |
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| sridhar_ram | janki: hi..! | 06:02 |
| sridhar_ram | janki: can you give an update on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416215/ ? | 06:02 |
| janki | sridhar_ram, hey. sorry got disconnected | 06:02 |
| janki | are we still on the topic or should I update later? | 06:02 |
| sridhar_ram | janki: np, still in your topic.. u rejoined just in time | 06:03 |
| janki | yes. I am waiting for few more reviews to submit a revised patch. | 06:03 |
| janki | sridhar_ram, the current patch throws proper error in case of wrong network | 06:03 |
| sridhar_ram | janki: FT still failing ? | 06:03 |
| sridhar_ram | janki: cool... | 06:04 |
| janki | sridhar_ram, | 06:04 |
| janki | 1. $ tacker vnf-create vnf-error1 --vnfd-template ~/error-template.yaml | 06:04 |
| janki | ERROR: Property error: : resources.CP3.properties.network: : Error validating value 'unknown_net_blah': Unable to find network with name or id 'unknown_net_blah' | 06:04 |
| janki | none of the fts failing for me | 06:04 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, yup, will check that in old novaclient | 06:04 |
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| janki | sridhar_ram, for rest of the -ve cases we discussed, they are not incorporated for the traditional vnf creation way | 06:04 |
| janki | so I think those should come in as separate patch for both the vnf creation ways | 06:05 |
| janki | sridhar_ram, secondly i will have to Update spec acc. to the implementaion once this gets merged | 06:06 |
| sridhar_ram | janki: okay, at least can you do some manual tests to gain some confidence .. it would also help to open a RFE bug to add func test for negative cases for onboarded and inline vnfs | 06:06 |
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| janki | I have the horizon patch ready. will submit EOD | 06:06 |
| janki | sridhar_ram, will do | 06:06 |
| janki | sridhar_ram, a guide doc is needed? | 06:07 |
| sridhar_ram | janki: I don't think we need a separate doc, this is an incremental feature .. you shd find a place to the current doc to add this new option | 06:08 |
| gongysh | janki, guide doc is always welcome. | 06:08 |
| janki | sridhar_ram, gongysh will add it at appropriate place. | 06:08 |
| janki | gongysh, regarding your comment to delete vnfd along the transaction, I think it should be outside the transaction | 06:09 |
| janki | gongysh, as delete_vnfd is an additional fucntionality to be done after vnf celete is fully complete | 06:09 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: on that note, we have a proliferation of lots of granular user guide .. http://docs.openstack.org/developer/tacker/#feature-documentation | 06:10 |
| janki | gongysh, also transaction is db transaction right (plz correct me if I am wrong) so lets separate delete_vnfd (being an additional feature) from the db stuff | 06:10 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: we need to plan a doc refactoring in Pike | 06:10 |
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| janki | gongysh, sridhar_ram tbh your thoughts on ^ | 06:11 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, agreed. | 06:11 |
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| gongysh | janki, let me discuss it on review. | 06:12 |
| sridhar_ram | janki: i haven't closely looked on this db transaction scope to comment.. | 06:12 |
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| janki | gongysh, sure | 06:12 |
| janki | sridhar_ram, ack | 06:12 |
| sridhar_ram | next topic .. | 06:12 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic VNFC support | 06:13 |
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| sridhar_ram | tbh: can you provide a quick status? | 06:13 |
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| tbh | sridhar_ram, addressed your comments on the latest patch.. but couldn't find a way for building/hosting the image | 06:13 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: hmm, the digital ocean fedora image doesn't contain heat-agent ? | 06:14 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, #link vnfc: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/358321/ | 06:14 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, any link for that? | 06:15 |
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| sridhar_ram | tbh: the one KanagarajM shared last week | 06:15 |
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| gongysh | tbh, it means we will have to contain diskimage build scripts in our tacker projects? | 06:16 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, is it digital ocean image, but I remember kanagaraj gave a link to an image...but that doesn't have heat-agent | 06:16 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: here it is .. https://github.com/openstack/heat/blob/master/heat_integrationtests/prepare_test_env.sh#L54 | 06:16 |
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| tbh | sridhar_ram, yup this one doesn't contain heat-agent | 06:17 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: in short yes... AFAIU diskimage need to be built as part of every gate test run .. too costly | 06:17 |
| sridhar_ram | the best option would be do it once and host it some where.. | 06:18 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: can't we create a github repo and push a qcow2 image with heat-agent ? | 06:18 |
| tbh | gongysh, but diskimage build scripts will also fedora image | 06:19 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, I am planning like this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421340/1/devstack/lib/tacker | 06:19 |
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| tbh | sridhar_ram, yup to push qcow2 to a git repo | 06:19 |
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| gongysh | tbh, we can put diskimage build script in tacker, but with the result image in github. | 06:20 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: the downside the github repo will be "owned" by an individual.. | 06:20 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: +2 | 06:20 |
| gongysh | tbh, the result image will host heat-agent. | 06:20 |
| sridhar_ram | gongysh: the process can be documented and scripted in tacker repo, the resulting image could be in a private github repo.. | 06:21 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram, yes. | 06:22 |
| sridhar_ram | it would be nice if that image can be storaged locally withing OpenStack CI cloud.. but in the absense of that we can go across internet to github | 06:22 |
| sridhar_ram | not sure if infra team will like this, but atleast this will be *a* solution | 06:22 |
| * sridhar_ram notes 8mins left | 06:22 | |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: please proceed w/ this solution for now | 06:23 |
| tbh | gongysh, sridhar_ram what exactly we mean by diskimage build scripts here ... and we contacted CI team, they are not ready to host any image | 06:23 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: gongysh have you used diskimage builder scripts ? | 06:24 |
| gongysh | tbh, do you have qcow2 image with heat-agent? | 06:25 |
| sridhar_ram | folks - let's take this offline in the review .. | 06:25 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, gongysh yes | 06:25 |
| sridhar_ram | i've couple of quick things shout out... | 06:25 |
| sridhar_ram | tbh: okay ? | 06:25 |
| gongysh | sridhar_ram move on | 06:25 |
| tbh | sridhar_ram, sure | 06:25 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Pike PTG Virtual Meetup | 06:26 |
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| sridhar_ram | We had decided to meet virtually for Pike Project Team Gathering... | 06:26 |
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| sridhar_ram | this needs to happen to coincide with https://www.openstack.org/ptg | 06:27 |
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| sridhar_ram | Feb 20-24, 2017 | 06:27 |
| sridhar_ram | I have started an etherpad to collect topics here .. vvvv | 06:27 |
| sridhar_ram | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tacker-pike-grooming | 06:27 |
| sridhar_ram | please add topic of interest here and sign up for sub-tracks to present / lead | 06:28 |
| sridhar_ram | good oppurtunity to lead and be visible :) | 06:28 |
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| diga | sridhar_ram: we can add api-framework also in there | 06:29 |
| sridhar_ram | I'll send a doodle invite to pick the best slot | 06:29 |
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| sridhar_ram | diga: sure, go ahead and add it please | 06:29 |
| diga | sridhar_ram: yes | 06:29 |
| sridhar_ram | #topic Open Discussion | 06:29 |
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| sridhar_ram | we are out of time for today.. | 06:30 |
| sridhar_ram | thanks everyone! | 06:30 |
| sridhar_ram | #endmeeting | 06:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 06:30 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 25 06:30:19 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 06:30 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tacker/2017/tacker.2017-01-25-05.31.html | 06:30 |
| diga | bye | 06:30 |
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| ramishra | #startmeeting heat | 08:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 25 08:00:04 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ramishra. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: heat)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'heat' | 08:00 |
| ramishra | #topic roll call | 08:00 |
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| therve | Hi | 08:01 |
| skraynev | o/ | 08:01 |
| ricolin | hi! | 08:01 |
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| cwolferh | o/ | 08:02 |
| ramishra | #topic adding items to agenda | 08:02 |
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| ramishra | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/HeatAgenda#Agenda_.282017-01-25_0800_UTC.29 | 08:02 |
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| ramishra | #topic ocata-3 status | 08:03 |
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| ramishra | #link https://launchpad.net/heat/+milestone/ocata-3 | 08:04 |
| ramishra | I think we should land https://review.openstack.org/#/c/363415/25 before doing the release | 08:04 |
| therve | Yeah | 08:05 |
| therve | It's just awful to review | 08:05 |
| ramishra | zaneb has reviewed it. I've looked at it too. cwolferh is still around to answer if there are any questions. | 08:05 |
| cwolferh | dominoes | 08:05 |
| ramishra | I think all other bugs I would either move to rc1 or pike-1, if they don't get reviewed in a few hours. | 08:07 |
| ramishra | Are we ok with it? | 08:07 |
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| ricolin | I think so :) | 08:07 |
| ramishra | https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1570576 patch should land soon. | 08:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1570576 in heat "After updating a stack stuck IN_PROGRESS, resources will be permanently stuck IN_PROGRESS" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Tanvir Talukder (tanvirt16) | 08:08 |
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| ramishra | may be we should finish the meeting soon and then spend some time reviewing:) | 08:09 |
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| prazumovsky | hi! sorry for late | 08:10 |
| ricolin | hi! | 08:10 |
| ramishra | If anyone wants to land something in o-3 please speak up and ask for reviews, though reviewers may not oblige;) | 08:11 |
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| ricolin | I'm find with land on next release:) | 08:12 |
| prazumovsky | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/301017/ from me, i push fix since last comments:) | 08:12 |
| prazumovsky | *pushed | 08:13 |
| ramishra | prazumovsky: I'll check that | 08:13 |
| prazumovsky | thanks! | 08:13 |
| ramishra | #topic open discussion | 08:13 |
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| elynn | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/423992/ I would like this in. | 08:13 |
| elynn | Please help review :) | 08:14 |
| prazumovsky | Does anyone have troubles with local pep8? | 08:14 |
| prazumovsky | I have two errors with _ in zaqar.py module | 08:14 |
| ramishra | elynn: it does link to a bug or a spect-lite and not targeted to o-3. Therefore no one looked at it. | 08:14 |
| elynn | didn't met pep8 error. | 08:15 |
| ricolin | prazumovsky: will rebuild your requirement works? | 08:15 |
| prazumovsky | yes, full rebuild | 08:15 |
| elynn | ramishra it's a spec-lite, i didn't fire a bug for it. | 08:15 |
| prazumovsky | all requirements/test-req.., clean compiled and so one | 08:15 |
| prazumovsky | oh... "on", i mean | 08:15 |
| elynn | Add a new attribute to senlin cluster resource. | 08:16 |
| therve | elynn, spec-lite means bug | 08:16 |
| therve | Not that it's necessary here | 08:16 |
| therve | Just harder to track | 08:16 |
| prazumovsky | I pushed commit https://review.openstack.org/#/c/423218/ but want to know about another contributors and local pep8, because gate successfully passed | 08:16 |
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| ricolin | trying:) | 08:17 |
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| ricolin | and yes | 08:19 |
| ricolin | new pep8 break... | 08:19 |
| ramishra | therve: Will do the 1.0.0 release for heat-agents. | 08:19 |
| therve | ramishra, 1.0.0b3 no? | 08:19 |
| therve | I wonder what the scheme should be | 08:19 |
| ramishra | I thought we would treat it as a library? | 08:20 |
| therve | Hum... | 08:20 |
| therve | I don't know | 08:20 |
| ramishra | who can answer that:) | 08:20 |
| ramishra | ? | 08:20 |
| elynn | therve, ramishra I fire a spec-lite https://bugs.launchpad.net/heat/+bug/1659204 please help to set the target :) | 08:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1659204 in heat "Add 'collect' attribute to senlin cluster resource" [Undecided,New] | 08:21 |
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| ramishra | elynn: targeted to o-3 for now. | 08:22 |
| elynn | Thanks | 08:23 |
| ramishra | anything else? Would be good if more can review the resource_properties_data patch, if possible | 08:24 |
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| cwolferh | a note about ^^ there is probably room for performance improvements in the above, but want to get solid base functionality by the freeze. | 08:25 |
| ramishra | ok, let's move back to #heat and spend rest of the time reviewing;) | 08:26 |
| ramishra | thank you all | 08:26 |
| ricolin | thx | 08:26 |
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| ramishra | #endmeeting | 08:26 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 25 08:26:26 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 08:26 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/heat/2017/heat.2017-01-25-08.00.html | 08:26 |
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| smcginnis | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 25 16:00:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:00 | |
| smcginnis | ping dulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon rhedlind jbernard _alastor_ bluex patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino yuriy_n17 karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor baumann rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell stevemar watanabe.isao,tommylikehu mdovgal ildikov | 16:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'cinder' | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | wxy viks ketonne | 16:00 |
| mdovgal | hi | 16:00 |
| e0ne | hi | 16:00 |
| eharney | hi | 16:00 |
| xyang | hi | 16:00 |
| erlon | hey | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | Hello! | 16:00 |
| dulek | o/ | 16:00 |
| geguileo | o/ | 16:00 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Hello :) | 16:00 |
| scottda | yo | 16:00 |
| smcginnis | #topic Announcements | 16:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Announcements (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:01 | |
| smcginnis | The usual... | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-spec-review-tracking Review focus | 16:01 |
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| smcginnis | Client freeze is tomorrow. | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Are you around? | 16:01 |
| smcginnis | Or anyone know the status of attach/detach in the client? | 16:01 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: there are a few things that would need to be fixed there | 16:02 |
| hemna | yough | 16:02 |
| scottda | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/387716/ | 16:02 |
| scottda | That's client attach/detach ^^ | 16:02 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: I can upload a new patch set in case jgriffith is not around to do it | 16:02 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: I will check with him | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Thanks. I was hoping I had the wrong link for that one given it's current state. ;) | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | ildikov: Thank you! | 16:02 |
| scottda | yeah, doesn't look like it will be ready tomorrow... | 16:03 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: by when do you need the new version? | 16:03 |
| scottda | But, that only matters if Nova were ready to use it, right? | 16:03 |
| ildikov | smcginnis: besides yesterday :D | 16:03 |
| scottda | smcginnis: WE can always release the client . | 16:03 |
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| smcginnis | ildikov, scottda: Client freeze for Ocata is tomorrow. But yeah, we can always release a new client as soon as the freeze is over. | 16:03 |
| ildikov | scottda: true, although I need the updated version for testing anyway, more convenient than do it locally all the time | 16:03 |
| smcginnis | So maybe not a big deal. | 16:03 |
| erlon | smcginnis: eharney: what about the NFS patch do you think it can be ready until tomorrow? | 16:03 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis I am now :) | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Morning! | 16:04 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis hey | 16:04 |
| hemna | I'm assuming the client work also works for the older attach scenario in case the newer client is talking to an older cinder | 16:04 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis yeah, sorry about the client; I'll get that fixed up today | 16:04 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Awesome | 16:04 |
| jgriffith | hemna it *works* but needs a few things in terms of clean up | 16:04 |
| hemna | rockin | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | Cinder statement in general ^^ | 16:05 |
| e0ne | hemna: +1. we have to support both attach APIs for a while | 16:05 |
| dulek | smcginnis: :D | 16:05 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: lol | 16:05 |
| ildikov | jgriffith: it mostly works :) | 16:05 |
| jgriffith | ildikov emphasis on *mostly* :) | 16:05 |
| smcginnis | :) | 16:05 |
| erlon | * works for me * | 16:05 |
| ildikov | jgriffith: reading my mind :) | 16:05 |
| jgriffith | erlon in that case my work here is done | 16:05 |
| hemna | lots of 3rd party CI's are failing today..... | 16:05 |
| erlon | jgriffith: :) | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Not just today. :/ | 16:06 |
| ildikov | erlon: don't discourage people from work! ;) | 16:06 |
| e0ne | hemna: I'm afraid not only today :( | 16:06 |
| hemna | :( | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | But we can talk more about that if we have time for open discussion. | 16:06 |
| jgriffith | hemna yeah, I am looking at some of those the past few days, seeing issues with snapshot object has no id member, and a number of other weird things | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | #info Need to register for the PTG if you have not already done so. | 16:06 |
| eharney | erlon: i think we should land it | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | #link http://www.openstack.org/ptg PTG info and registration | 16:06 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | Less than 50 spots left I believe | 16:07 |
| dulek | diablo_rojo_phon: Do you have an estimate how much rooms in reserved block are left? | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | I heard registration was getting close to capacity. Please don't wait too long if you were holding off registering. | 16:07 |
| smcginnis | diablo_rojo_phon: Thanks! | 16:07 |
| dulek | diablo_rojo_phon: 41 actually. | 16:07 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Room block there is still a lot of space. | 16:07 |
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| smcginnis | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ATL-cinder-ptg-planning PTG topic planning | 16:07 |
| dulek | diablo_rojo_phon: Awesome, my reservation can wait till tomorrow. :) | 16:07 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | dulek thanks :) | 16:07 |
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| smcginnis | Whether attending in person or not, please add any topics to the etherpad. | 16:07 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | dulek haha yes it can :) | 16:08 |
| erlon | eharney: great, I asked geguileo to have a look, any other cores, if possible please give a look: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/147186/ | 16:08 |
| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo_phon, How bad on the rooms? | 16:08 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | jungleboyj: as far as I know it's not a whole lot better than last week. | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/boston-2017/call-for-presentations/ Summit CFP | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | A couple more weeks left on submitting presentation topics. | 16:09 |
| smcginnis | That ends Feb 6 I believe. | 16:09 |
| Swanson | PTG PUSHING OVERPRICED ROOMS ON US! GET A WINNEBAGO! SOGGY! | 16:09 |
| Swanson | carry on | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | Swanson: No Trump tweets in the meeting room! :) | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo_phon, Ok, thanks. I think I will be using my room. | 16:10 |
| smcginnis | #topic Cinder in-tree tests running on tempest | 16:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cinder in-tree tests running on tempest (Meeting topic: Cinder)" | 16:10 | |
| smcginnis | erlon: Hey | 16:10 |
| hemna | Swanson, yup. I just got a room directly with the hotel. way cheaper | 16:10 |
| erlon | smcginnis: hey | 16:10 |
| erlon | so, I was discussing with oomichi, from QA about the in-tree tests | 16:11 |
| erlon | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410248/ | 16:11 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | jungleboyj: sweet :) Get your other Lenovo friends to do the same :) | 16:11 |
| jgriffith | jungleboyj there's a nice park-bench across from the hotel with your name on it, just use that | 16:11 |
| erlon | he is not a fan of changing the core jobs for adding our in-tree tests | 16:11 |
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| jgriffith | erlon any reasoning that he gave? | 16:12 |
| erlon | just, remembering, the ideia was to have our intree tests running in all cinder related jobs so, any tests that we added in-tree would have the same weight of the temepst tests | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:run-intree-tests Patches related | 16:12 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/410248/ Run Cinder in-tree tests: neutron-full | 16:12 |
| erlon | jgriffith: the reasoon is that the in-tree tets are not for official/core features in other projects | 16:13 |
| jgriffith | smcginnis thanks | 16:13 |
| eharney | do we run things like the neutron in-tree tests in our base cinder test jobs? | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith, I have been to that hotel, no way I am going on a park bench. | 16:13 |
| erlon | and that could interefer in the normal behaviour of the job | 16:13 |
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| dulek | erlon: Couldn't we template it a way that in-tree will run only in openstack/cinder? | 16:13 |
| eharney | we don't have many in-tree tempest tests yet, so it seems to me we should just focus on enabling them for cinder jobs and worry about other project jobs later | 16:13 |
| erlon | eharney: what do they do in neutron? | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | dulek: I found with trying to get driverfixes/mitaka set up, the control over when/where to run tests is really... limited. | 16:14 |
| eharney | no idea | 16:14 |
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| e0ne | eharney: +1 | 16:14 |
| smcginnis | I'd mainly like to make sure in-tree tests are being run by third party CI. | 16:14 |
| erlon | dulek: I think its possible but that would require to change the shared jobs | 16:14 |
| erlon | dulek: if you see the list, that neutron job is the only one that is shared among other projecs | 16:15 |
| erlon | hmm, othe problem was that the neutron job is shared among other projects | 16:15 |
| erlon | may be an option would be to leave it without the intree tests and change only the ones that are not shared | 16:16 |
| smcginnis | erlon: Might be a good compromise. | 16:16 |
| e0ne | erlon: can it bw configurable via some env variables or devstack config per project? | 16:17 |
| e0ne | s/bw/be | 16:17 |
| erlon | smcginnis: I believe that by default all CIs run the plugins | 16:17 |
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| erlon | smcginnis: have to check though | 16:17 |
| jgriffith | I hate to mention this again; but I thought we were in fact going to focus on jobs that ran *just* cinder without anything else first? | 16:17 |
| smcginnis | erlon: Third party? Not by default. They need to use the all_plugins target. | 16:17 |
| jgriffith | not sure if that's the same thing eharney is pointing out or not | 16:17 |
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| jgriffith | or if I'm just missing the boat again here (which is quite possible) | 16:18 |
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| smcginnis | jgriffith: I think you are correct, that's what I remember talking about in FC. | 16:18 |
| erlon | smcginnis: hmmm | 16:18 |
| jgriffith | unit-->functional--->integration | 16:19 |
| erlon | smcginnis: in the past thingee pratol the Cis checking eachone were running the 276 tests :) | 16:19 |
| jgriffith | erlon seems like a fulfilling career :) | 16:19 |
| erlon | smcginnis: so, that could be an option | 16:19 |
| erlon | jgriffith: haha | 16:19 |
| jgriffith | wonder if we could write a bot to do that sort of thing periodically rather than relying on a human which is valuable for other things | 16:20 |
| scottda | +1 to erlon patrolling the CIs | 16:20 |
| scottda | :) | 16:20 |
| eharney | jgriffith: ooh, meta-CI to test CIs | 16:20 |
| jgriffith | eharney :) | 16:20 |
| erlon | smcginnis: scottda: haha, I would defenetelly automate that | 16:20 |
| e0ne | jgriffith: fyi, https://review.openstack.org/#/c/348449/. I can't get it reviewed since September:( | 16:20 |
| e0ne | jgriffith: it's about testing only cinder w/o backends or something else | 16:21 |
| jgriffith | e0ne omg! I'm sorry!!! | 16:21 |
| erlon | scottda: smcginnis: but having the Cis running the in-tree tests would be very good | 16:21 |
| hemna | e0ne, rebase? | 16:21 |
| erlon | scottda: I can help with that | 16:21 |
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| e0ne | hemna: hm... not a bad idea... done | 16:21 |
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| smcginnis | erlon: So for now, hold off on those set of patches I think? | 16:22 |
| erlon | smcginnis: I think only the neutron? | 16:22 |
| erlon | scottda: which is share | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | erlon: Sure | 16:23 |
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| erlon | smcginnis: the other ones are only used by cinder, so, ifwe decide to have then changed it will find less resistence | 16:23 |
| smcginnis | erlon: OK, good. Anything else needed to discuss in the meeting for now? | 16:24 |
| erlon | smcginnis: ok then, ill talk to then | 16:24 |
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| erlon | smcginnis: im fine | 16:24 |
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| smcginnis | erlon: Thank you. | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | #topic Generating support matrix/report | 16:24 |
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| smcginnis | We have a couple porposed options for reporting what optional features are supported by drivers. | 16:24 |
| smcginnis | One is to generate a table like we have now in our wiki. | 16:24 |
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| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371169/ Feature matrix proposal | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | The other approach is to add it to the driver list: | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/403854 Replication patch | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | #link https://review.openstack.org/404180 A/A support | 16:25 |
| hemna | ugh ABC classes | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/cinder/drivers.html | 16:25 |
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| smcginnis | I guess they are not really competing. We could do both. | 16:25 |
| smcginnis | My only concern is that driver list already has a _lot_ of data. | 16:25 |
| eharney | we're getting rid of the ABC classes. | 16:25 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: I think we should do only one | 16:26 |
| erlon | smcginnis: do you have an output sample of the first? | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | eharney, I think that was the case. | 16:26 |
| erlon | eharney: +1 | 16:26 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: Otherwise one of them will be eventually out of date | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: +1 that would be my preference. | 16:26 |
| hemna | if that patch lands we can't get rid of the ABC stuff :( | 16:26 |
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| jungleboyj | geguileo, +1. Don't need duplication. | 16:26 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: Or maybe even both be out of date | 16:26 |
| smcginnis | hemna: No, it's slightly different using the interface work. | 16:26 |
| erlon | good would be if there was a way to merge the sphinx concept with the data from the driver_list | 16:26 |
| jungleboyj | If we are doing the driver matrix though, we need a better solution than we currently have. | 16:26 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | geguileo: +1 | 16:26 |
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| jungleboyj | Having something automatically updated would be good. | 16:27 |
| geguileo | erlon: That sounds like a good ide | 16:27 |
| geguileo | a | 16:27 |
| hemna | smcginnis, the patch says it's using the ABC classes to determine the what features they support | 16:27 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | jungleboyj: truth. Cause we suck at remembering to update things. | 16:27 |
| smcginnis | hemna: Oh, which one? | 16:27 |
| hemna | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/371169/ | 16:27 |
| jungleboyj | diablo_rojo_phon, ++ | 16:27 |
| xyang | smcginnis: I thought Nova has something to detect the driver feature too, is this first patch using a different approach? | 16:27 |
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| smcginnis | hemna: Oh, that's the interface stuff. It uses ABC, but it's not the ABC mess we are trying to get rid of. | 16:28 |
| smcginnis | xyang: Yeah, nova does generate a table somewhere in a similar way. | 16:28 |
| hemna | haven't looked at the code yet, but if that's the case he should remove any mention of ABC :) | 16:28 |
| xyang | smcginnis: ok | 16:28 |
| hemna | ABC is a 4 letter word | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | xyang, I think the one that generates the matrix is like what Nova is doing. | 16:28 |
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| smcginnis | hemna: ;) | 16:28 |
| xyang | jungleboyj: thanks | 16:28 |
| jungleboyj | hemna, ABCx | 16:29 |
| erlon | smcginnis: and then we can release the matrix with the release notes | 16:29 |
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| smcginnis | hemna: At least the interfaces hide it. | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | erlon: That's a good idea. | 16:29 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | erlon: +1 | 16:29 |
| hemna | the general idea is good. would be nice to have that matrix updated every release automagically | 16:29 |
| e0ne | erlon: +1 | 16:29 |
| smcginnis | Unfortunately it looks like the patch for the matrix is old enough now that the output is gone, so can't see an example of what that looks like. | 16:29 |
| hemna | pewp | 16:30 |
| xyang | hemna: +1. time to get rid of the manually created support matrix on wiki which is completely outdated | 16:30 |
| smcginnis | So I was hoping to get a feel from the group if we wanted to go the matrix route or add info to the driver list. Or both. But hopefully one or the other. | 16:30 |
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| diablo_rojo_phon | My vote is matrix | 16:31 |
| xyang | smcginnis: I like the idea of generating the matrix automatically | 16:31 |
| erlon | my vote is the merge of both | 16:31 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | xyang +1 | 16:31 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: I vote for Matrix | 16:31 |
| erlon | sphinx + driver_list output | 16:31 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis, I do use the matrix frequently. So, it makes sense to go that route. | 16:31 |
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| dulek | This matrix patch was based on how Nove exposes it. Consistency is good, so automated matrix makes total sense to me. | 16:32 |
| erlon | smcginnis: is it possible to make the driver list to generate the supported/optional features of each driver? | 16:32 |
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| smcginnis | erlon: OK, option 3 - keep the driver list as is so it's easy to just see what drivers are available, and add another page that does something similar but lists all drivers with their supported functionality. | 16:32 |
| smcginnis | erlon: That is what the two patches are proposing. | 16:33 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis, What is the existing driver list? | 16:33 |
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| smcginnis | jungleboyj: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/cinder/drivers.html | 16:33 |
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| xyang | smcginnis: looks like I didn't get what the first patch does:). Does it show what features a particular driver support? | 16:33 |
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| smcginnis | I'd actually eventually like that published somewhere other than under "developer" documentation, but it's a start. | 16:33 |
| geguileo | My patches were adding the HA A/A support and replication info | 16:33 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: +1 | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | xyang: Yeah. I don't have an example of that output though. | 16:34 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis, Oh, thanks. I didn't realize we had that. | 16:34 |
| jungleboyj | That is automatically generated as well? | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Yep. | 16:34 |
| rajinir | Sorting is messed up in http://docs.openstack.org/developer/cinder/drivers.html | 16:34 |
| xyang | smcginnis: so the output would be similar to this https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/CinderSupportMatrix (which is outdated right not)? | 16:34 |
| jungleboyj | Sweet. Could we set that up to have a link to the more detailed matrix? | 16:34 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Can also run a script to get json output of driver information as well for custom scripting. Pretty handy. | 16:34 |
| dulek | xyang: Yeah, it's similar. | 16:34 |
| dulek | Here how it looks like in NOva: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/support-matrix.html | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | xyang: Similar. It had a little different grouping and layout, but basically that idea, but automatically generated. | 16:35 |
| dulek | Cinder's version was very similar. | 16:35 |
| xyang | smcginnis: excellent! | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | dulek: +1 thanks! | 16:35 |
| smcginnis | OK, it sounds like in general we want to go the matrix route. So we should get some attention on that first proposal. | 16:36 |
| xyang | dulek: I like it! | 16:36 |
| erlon | scottda: this nova matrix is pretty neat! | 16:36 |
| jgriffith | Ask Neo how neat the matrix ends up being | 16:36 |
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| smcginnis | :) | 16:36 |
| e0ne | :) | 16:36 |
| jgriffith | oh wait... different matrix :) | 16:37 |
| jungleboyj | So, I think having the matrix like Nova is good and keep the general list. Add a link from the list to the matrix | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | That's all from me - just wanted to bring that up. | 16:37 |
| jungleboyj | The link shoud be a little blue pill for the link. | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | jungleboyj: Link from one to the other would be good. | 16:37 |
| erlon | smcginnis: how about the matrix dependency of ABC? | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | Hah | 16:37 |
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| dulek | Oh, BTW - guy behind the matrix patch no longer works in Cinder, I think. karthikp_, can you confirm? | 16:37 |
| smcginnis | It's the interface ABC's I think, so that is good. That's the way we want to go and get rid of the ABC inheritance in the drivers. | 16:38 |
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| karthikp_ | dulek: thats right... But I could check with if he wants to continue with that work | 16:38 |
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| smcginnis | karthikp_: Thanks. We can pick up where he left off if he's not able to continue. | 16:38 |
| karthikp_ | smcginnis: Sure ..I will check with him | 16:39 |
| smcginnis | #info We want to generate a driver support matrix like Nova has. | 16:39 |
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| smcginnis | #info Will pick up the patch to work toward that. | 16:39 |
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| smcginnis | #topic Different approaches for cinderclient extensions | 16:39 |
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| smcginnis | e0ne: Let's move on to this one then.. | 16:40 |
| e0ne | thanks, smcginnis | 16:40 |
| e0ne | so, all info is available in meeting agenda | 16:40 |
| e0ne | we've got different solutions for cinderclient extensions now:( | 16:40 |
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| e0ne | I'm trying to fix noauth support in cinderclient | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | I think we have "in-tree" extensions, and out of tree (brick) extensions, right? | 16:41 |
| e0ne | but current auth plugins implementation is totally broken | 16:41 |
| geguileo | e0ne: I have a hack for that, but I think we should do a proper fix | 16:41 |
| jgriffith | e0ne so personally; I would like to see us just move to a contrib directory model only | 16:41 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: So kill brick-ext and move that to contrib? | 16:42 |
| e0ne | jgriffith: TBH, I'm ready to implement any working and general solution | 16:42 |
| geguileo | e0ne: I think we should use the keystone entrypoints mechanism | 16:42 |
| jgriffith | e0ne and I'd like it to be such that we don't care if it's in tree or out (ie people can load extensions into the contrib directory on their own afer the fact) | 16:42 |
| jgriffith | otherwise, they're not really useful IMO | 16:42 |
| e0ne | geguileo: I don't get your point about keystone entry points | 16:42 |
| geguileo | e0ne: I think keystone client has a mechanism for different auths | 16:43 |
| geguileo | e0ne: Other projects like gnocchi are using it | 16:43 |
| e0ne | jgriffith: but what soulution should be used? stevedore or just import module like brickclient-ext works? | 16:43 |
| jgriffith | geguileo that hasn't worked out really well for us in the past, might be better now but something to consider | 16:43 |
| e0ne | geguileo: noauth is onlly one use-case of extensions | 16:44 |
| geguileo | jgriffith: I looked at our current code in there and it's a mess | 16:44 |
| jgriffith | e0ne Personally I prefer the "just import everything" in the dir | 16:44 |
| geguileo | e0ne: Yeah, that's why I propose the keystone way | 16:44 |
| smcginnis | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/python-cinderclient/+bug/1657156 Noauth bug | 16:44 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1657156 in python-cinderclient "cinderclient does not support noauth" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Ivan Kolodyazhny (e0ne) | 16:44 |
| geguileo | e0ne: Because it solves a lot more cases | 16:44 |
| e0ne | jgriffith: +1 it's not complicated and works well | 16:44 |
| jgriffith | e0ne and provide a config mechanism to enable/disable by tenant or role | 16:44 |
| jgriffith | geguileo yeah it's not pretty | 16:45 |
| geguileo | jgriffith: And it cannot be extended | 16:45 |
| smcginnis | IIRC, there were some different requirements with brick-ext that was a reason to make it a separately installable extension. | 16:45 |
| jgriffith | geguileo and I know you could/would fix it up, but i'm not sure it's a good use of your time frankly | 16:45 |
| geguileo | And everything is ad-hoc | 16:45 |
| e0ne | jgriffith: looks like I have to write a spec for it | 16:45 |
| jgriffith | geguileo oh, wait... we might be talking two things :) | 16:45 |
| scottda | smcginnis: I think that was because of openstack client... | 16:45 |
| geguileo | I just pushed my hack to support noauth: https://review.openstack.org/425277 | 16:46 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Hmm, I thought that was before we really started talking about osc. | 16:46 |
| smcginnis | But that does bring a whole set of concerns as well. | 16:46 |
| scottda | smcginnis: Having brick-ext separate was to facilitate moving cinderclient functionality to OSC | 16:46 |
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| bswartz | geguileo: +1 | 16:46 |
| smcginnis | scottda: Oh, OK. | 16:46 |
| e0ne | #link https://review.openstack.org/425277 | 16:46 |
| e0ne | did we agreed to have in-tree extensions in a conrtib directory? | 16:47 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: That sounds good to me. | 16:47 |
| e0ne | great! | 16:47 |
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| geguileo | If we want to move to OSC, maybe we should just go with a hack for noauth and forget about extensions and stuff... | 16:48 |
| scottda | geguileo: I'm not sure we want to move this to OSC... | 16:48 |
| hemna | is OSC going to allow cinder specific extensions ? | 16:48 |
| e0ne | geguileo: no, because OSC can use cinderclient extensions too | 16:48 |
| hemna | like brick-ext | 16:48 |
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| scottda | geguileo: I think the evolution of this was to someday have stand-alone Cinder | 16:48 |
| scottda | geguileo: With no dependency on Nova nor Keystone. | 16:49 |
| smcginnis | hemna: I think that needs to be figured out yet. | 16:49 |
| geguileo | e0ne: Sure, but if osc supports keystone auth extensions we can do noauth easily | 16:49 |
| scottda | In which case, we don't necessarily want OSC dependency. | 16:49 |
| geguileo | scottda: You can do standalone cinder with openstack client | 16:49 |
| e0ne | geguileo: I'm talking about cinderclient extensions in general, not anly about noauth | 16:49 |
| scottda | geguileo: Sure | 16:49 |
| geguileo | scottda: You just use the right auth and it should work | 16:49 |
| hemna | geguileo, osc can do noauth? | 16:49 |
| jgriffith | scottda plan for the future, some day cinderclient goes away and there is only osc | 16:49 |
| geguileo | hemna: probably | 16:50 |
| hemna | lol | 16:50 |
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| geguileo | hemna: using keystone auth plugin mechanism | 16:50 |
| scottda | ok, it seems that there were some issues around how OSC dealt with all this that was why we are down that path.. | 16:50 |
| e0ne | jgriffith, scottda: cinderclient CLI. cinderclient will be available | 16:50 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: +1 important distinction | 16:50 |
| geguileo | So what I'm hearing here is that we'll never move to OSC | 16:50 |
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| scottda | no, I'm not saying that. | 16:51 |
| bswartz | my dream is that cinderclient never goes away | 16:51 |
| geguileo | I'm fine with that, but then it makes sense to properly fix our client | 16:51 |
| e0ne | and cinderclient extenstion could provide both new Python and CLI APIs | 16:51 |
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| scottda | I'm saying that there were issues when we first added brick-ext. | 16:51 |
| smcginnis | geguileo: We're not going to only osc anywhere in the short term, so I thing we need to make sure our client is good. | 16:51 |
| jgriffith | e0ne true | 16:51 |
| scottda | But I'm not certain I can articulate the issues. They were not my personal issues. | 16:51 |
| geguileo | smcginnis: OK, then we need a big refactor in cinderclient/shell.py | 16:52 |
| e0ne | I didn't find any cinderclient extension on pypi | 16:52 |
| scottda | geguileo: +1 to cleaning up the client | 16:52 |
| scottda | and shell | 16:52 |
| e0ne | but there are some for novaclient | 16:52 |
| e0ne | scottda, geguileo: +1. I working on it during this release | 16:53 |
| scottda | e0ne yes, thanks for that. | 16:53 |
| e0ne | #link example of novaclient extensions https://pypi.python.org/pypi?%3Aaction=search&term=novaclient&submit=search | 16:53 |
| e0ne | scottda: thanks for reviews | 16:53 |
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| smcginnis | 7 minutes left... | 16:53 |
| geguileo | Here is what I was talking about the keystone auth plugin: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/python-gnocchiclient/shell.html | 16:54 |
| e0ne | smcginnis: we can switch to the next topic | 16:54 |
| geguileo | You can see there that using that we could do noauth and all available auths in keystone | 16:54 |
| e0ne | #link http://docs.openstack.org/developer/python-gnocchiclient/shell.html | 16:54 |
| smcginnis | e0ne: Thanks | 16:54 |
| smcginnis | #topic Snapshot-manage imports snapshots with wrong size | 16:54 |
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| smcginnis | mdovgal: You're up. | 16:54 |
| mdovgal | yes | 16:54 |
| smcginnis | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-January/110493.html | 16:54 |
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| smcginnis | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/cinder/+bug/1623596 | 16:55 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1623596 in Cinder "snapshot-manage imports snapshots with wrong size" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to Michael Dovgal (mdovgal) | 16:55 |
| e0ne | geguileo: thanks. I'll take a look on it and your workaround later tonight | 16:55 |
| mdovgal | we have the problem that in snapshot db table the size column is called volume_size | 16:55 |
| e0ne | for note: I prefer option #2 | 16:56 |
| erlon | mdovgal: Im fine with the name,, because it 'was' the volume_size at the time the snapshot was taken | 16:56 |
| mdovgal | in my letter i wrote about the problem and the way who we can solve the bug | 16:56 |
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| eharney | i'm not sure this is a "bug" on all drivers -- doesn't the right behavior here depend on backend implementation? | 16:56 |
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| mdovgal | yes. but at the time when we manage the snapshot using snapshot-manage command it isn't the volume size | 16:56 |
| erlon | mdovgal: as a snapshot is a point in time representation, its implicit that the volume_size was reffering to the time it was taken | 16:57 |
| erlon | eharney: the backend inplementaion just returns the size the snapshot have | 16:58 |
| e0ne | eharney: here is how we set size https://github.com/openstack/cinder/blob/02389a1d2ac4822d37b1f7fbd29391097bfcb56f/cinder/volume/flows/manager/manage_existing_snapshot.py#L241 during snapshot_manage call | 16:58 |
| mdovgal | and because of it we have incorrect manage result | 16:58 |
| eharney | why is it incorrect? | 16:58 |
| mdovgal | we will have current volume size, but not real snapshot. real snapshot size will be ignored | 16:58 |
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| mdovgal | e0ne, thanks for the link | 16:59 |
| smcginnis | 1 minute warning | 16:59 |
| erlon | eharney: ibeleive the problem is only the interpretation that volume_size can lead | 16:59 |
| eharney | ahh i get it, was reading wrong | 16:59 |
| e0ne | eharney: snapshot object doesn't have 'size' attribute | 16:59 |
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| e0ne | mdovgal: np | 16:59 |
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| erlon | mdovgal: if you create a volume from the snapshot will it have the worng size? | 16:59 |
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| jungleboyj | Just a last second plug for anyone in the RTP area that some of us are meeting at Lonerider Brewery at 7:30 tonight: http://www.loneriderbeer.com/ Join us if you can! | 17:00 |
| mdovgal | erlon, hm... good question) | 17:00 |
| smcginnis | mdovgal: Sorry, we're out of time. | 17:00 |
| * jgriffith fires up his private jet | 17:00 | |
| smcginnis | Maybe we can continue in the cinder channel. | 17:00 |
| jungleboyj | jgriffith, Come on out! | 17:00 |
| erlon | mdovgal: let discuss that in cinder | 17:00 |
| mdovgal | yes. i think we can | 17:00 |
| smcginnis | jgriffith: Hah! Pick me up on the way. | 17:00 |
| smcginnis | Thanks everyone. | 17:00 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis, ++ | 17:00 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks! | 17:00 |
| smcginnis | #endmeeting | 17:00 |
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| e0ne | :) | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 25 17:00:44 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:00 |
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| bh526r | #startmeeting gluon | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 25 18:00:36 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bh526r. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'gluon' | 18:00 |
| bh526r | #topic Roll Call | 18:01 |
| jinli | Hi All. | 18:01 |
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| jinli | #JinLi | 18:01 |
| bh526r | #info Bin Hu | 18:01 |
| pcarver | hi | 18:01 |
| jinli | #info JinLi | 18:01 |
| krenczewski | #info Kamil Renczewski | 18:01 |
| pcarver | #info Paul Carver | 18:01 |
| bh526r | Hi Paul, Jin and Kamil | 18:01 |
| krenczewski | Hi | 18:01 |
| bh526r | #topic Admin Update | 18:02 |
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| bh526r | #info Our f2F will be Feb 6 Monday and Feb 7 Tuesday hosted by Juniper | 18:02 |
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| bh526r | #info Logistics info: | 18:02 |
| bh526r | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Gluon/Logistics-2017020607 | 18:03 |
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| bh526r | #info Tentative Agenda: | 18:03 |
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| bh526r | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Gluon/Agenda-2017020607 | 18:03 |
| bh526r | Jin, will you be able to join in person? | 18:04 |
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| jinli | yes | 18:04 |
| jinli | i will be there | 18:05 |
| bh526r | good. I will give your name to host for printing name tag | 18:05 |
| bh526r | #topic Gluon Tasks | 18:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gluon Tasks (Meeting topic: gluon)" | 18:05 | |
| bh526r | #info For informational purpose: | 18:05 |
| bh526r | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Gluon/Tasks-Ocata | 18:05 |
| bh526r | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-gluon-work-plan | 18:05 |
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| bh526r | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/ocata-nova-neutron-session | 18:06 |
| bh526r | #topic Status Update | 18:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Status Update (Meeting topic: gluon)" | 18:06 | |
| bh526r | #info (1) Authentication and Access Control | 18:06 |
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| bh526r | #info Two patches were submitted | 18:07 |
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| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420987/ for Gluon RBAC using keystone and oslo.policy | 18:07 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/421519/ for Support keystone authentication on cli | 18:07 |
| bh526r | #info Both were approved and merged on Jan 19 | 18:08 |
| bh526r | #info (2) Gluon API Specification - Coding | 18:08 |
| bh526r | #info One patch of coding was submitted | 18:08 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/423851/ | 18:09 |
| bh526r | #info It was approved and merged on Jan 24. | 18:09 |
| bh526r | #info It also changed/commented some existing test code in repo in order to comply with new API code | 18:10 |
| bh526r | #info Shim Layer code was touched too for the new API code | 18:10 |
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| bh526r | #info Georg is expected to further look into necessary changes in Shim Code in order to fully support new API code | 18:11 |
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| bh526r | #info There is another patch to change the file mode from 755 to 644 of API Spec | 18:11 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/423318/ | 18:12 |
| bh526r | #info It was approved and merged too | 18:12 |
| bh526r | #info (3) OpenContrail's Mechanism Driver | 18:12 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/402071/ | 18:12 |
| bh526r | #info Kamil has finished Fuel Plugin. He is working on testing it | 18:13 |
| bh526r | #info Bin will connect Kamil with Szilard, who is more familiar with Fuel Plugin | 18:13 |
| krenczewski | No progress from yesterday, I have some issues with Fuel master node on my test environment | 18:13 |
| bh526r | I will connect you with Szilard after this IRC meeting | 18:14 |
| krenczewski | Great, thank you | 18:14 |
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| bh526r | #info (4) Testing | 18:14 |
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| bh526r | #info There are 5 testing patches | 18:14 |
| bh526r | #info One patch is to remove spaces between print() | 18:15 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422894/ | 18:15 |
| bh526r | #info It was approved and merged on Jan 24 | 18:15 |
| bh526r | #info There are 4 more patches: | 18:15 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419210/ for Test case for DataBaseModelGenerator | 18:16 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/420165/ for Unit testing for db.sqlalchemy.api.py | 18:16 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/422338/ for Test case for api.baseObject module | 18:16 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418641/ (work in progress) [do NOT merge] sample testcase for api | 18:17 |
| bh526r | #info Bin gave comments, and suggested to look into the code so as to make it comply with new API code change in repo, and submit new patches if necessary | 18:18 |
| bh526r | #info (5) Devstack Integration (Work in Progress) | 18:18 |
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| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/404069/ | 18:18 |
| bh526r | #info It is work in progress | 18:19 |
| bh526r | #info (6) Fuel Plugin (Work in Progress) | 18:19 |
| bh526r | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/417876/ | 18:19 |
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| bh526r | #info It was submitted for another project openstack/fuel-plugin-gluon | 18:20 |
| bh526r | #info and work in progress | 18:20 |
| bh526r | #info (7) Nova Enhancement and related Neutron work | 18:20 |
| bh526r | #info Work in Progress | 18:20 |
| bh526r | #info The plan is to work out all details during F2F, and work with Nova and Neutron team in PTG. | 18:21 |
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| bh526r | #info Sukhdev will go to PTG and work with Nova/Neutron team on behalf of us | 18:22 |
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| bh526r | That's all from me. | 18:22 |
| bh526r | Any update from others? | 18:22 |
| bh526r | #topic AOB | 18:23 |
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| bh526r | anything else to discuss? | 18:23 |
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| bh526r | If nothing else to discuss, we can adjourn the meeting and give back everyone 35 minutes | 18:25 |
| bh526r | #info Nothing else | 18:25 |
| bh526r | #info Meeting adjourned | 18:25 |
| bh526r | Thank you all, abd bye all, and hope to see as many of you in F2F on Feb 6 and Feb 7 | 18:26 |
| jinli | bye all | 18:26 |
| krenczewski | Bye | 18:26 |
| bh526r | #endmeeting | 18:27 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 25 18:27:03 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:27 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-01-25-18.00.html | 18:27 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-01-25-18.00.txt | 18:27 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | anyone about for the StoryBoard meeting? | 19:00 |
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| SotK | o/ | 19:00 |
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| diablo_rojo | o/ | 19:00 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | \o/ | 19:00 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #startmeeting storyboard | 19:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 25 19:00:53 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zara_the_lemur__. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:00 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | #topic Announcements | 19:01 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | None I have noted | 19:01 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #topic Urgent Items | 19:01 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | also none | 19:01 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | #topic In-progress work | 19:01 |
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| SotK | I looked at the migration scripts | 19:01 |
| SotK | there is some work to be done | 19:02 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | yay | 19:02 |
| diablo_rojo | How long is the list? | 19:02 |
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| SotK | - add support for branches | 19:03 |
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| SotK | - make worklists and add tags to handle priority/importance | 19:03 |
| diablo_rojo | Is that going to be a large effort? | 19:03 |
| SotK | - misc bugfixing | 19:03 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | for 'make worklists and add tags', could we use the old api and then translate it? | 19:04 |
| SotK | that is all I've found so far, having imported monasca and half of keystone | 19:04 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | that way the script itself doesn't need to change | 19:04 |
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| SotK | I'm not sure what you mean, but probably | 19:04 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | and we'd have a different script for converting flat priority to tags + worklists | 19:04 |
| SotK | either way none of the things seem like much work | 19:04 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | (instead of building it into the migration scripts) | 19:04 |
| SotK | oh I see what you mean | 19:05 |
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| SotK | we could do that | 19:05 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | we'd need it to be quick so it doesn't hang around in the middle. | 19:05 |
| diablo_rojo | Indeed. | 19:05 |
| SotK | oh actually | 19:05 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | (but yeah I figured that way the migration script is done there, and it should be fairly easy to script things for changes within storyboard itself) | 19:06 |
| SotK | we can't do that because we decided we were making the tags be "$projectname-$priority" right? | 19:06 |
| SotK | oh we can still do that ignore me | 19:06 |
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| SotK | :) | 19:06 |
| SotK | I think that is about all | 19:07 |
| SotK | monasca is easy to import | 19:07 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | were you able to check for any strange characters? | 19:07 |
| SotK | nope, that is in "misc bugfixing" | 19:07 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | ah okay | 19:07 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | cool | 19:07 |
| diablo_rojo | So we want to wait to port Monasca till these things are done? | 19:07 |
| diablo_rojo | I assume? | 19:07 |
| SotK | yeah | 19:08 |
| SotK | but I can look at them in the coming week or so I expect | 19:08 |
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| diablo_rojo | Excellent. | 19:08 |
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| fungi | there was also interest from... refstack i suspect? in migrating | 19:09 |
| fungi | they want to discuss it at the ptg | 19:09 |
| fungi | hogepodge: ^ any details there? just so we're prepped to have people around to talk | 19:09 |
| fungi | he mentioned something about it coming up in a meeting but i don't know for sure which one | 19:10 |
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| diablo_rojo | fungi, think it was the interop wg | 19:10 |
| hogepodge | fungi: defcore/interopwg is talking about moving to storyboard | 19:10 |
| hogepodge | we're changing our name, so it's an ideal time to change our tracker | 19:10 |
| fungi | anyway, didn't mean to sideline, just noting tat we're looking at a couple of teams now anyway | 19:10 |
| fungi | thanks diablo_rojo and hogepodge | 19:11 |
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| diablo_rojo | np | 19:11 |
| * SotK is excited for people to start migrating | 19:11 | |
| zara_the_lemur__ | ace | 19:11 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, okay so what can I do to help get the mgiration scripts up to par? | 19:11 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | guessing his internet is not being great right now | 19:14 |
| diablo_rojo | We can talk about that later I suppose. | 19:15 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | yeah | 19:15 |
| diablo_rojo | fungi, any other smaller projects you think would be safe in reaching out to, to move over? | 19:15 |
| diablo_rojo | Just off the top of your head? | 19:15 |
| fungi | diablo_rojo: there are so many i wouldn't even know where to start | 19:15 |
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| fungi | that's the thing about small projects. there are significantly more of them | 19:16 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | we're working on another blog post at the moment, so soon we should have a thing with more info on the api up | 19:19 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | at that point we might see more eager volunteers | 19:19 |
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| diablo_rojo | Maybe after that post gets up I can send something out to the ML asking if there are projects interested in moving. | 19:19 |
| diablo_rojo | thoughts on that? | 19:19 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | yeah, I feel like smaller projects probably have more freedom to come to us. | 19:20 |
| fungi | seems fine to me as long as we're in a state with the import script that we're comfortable it will work for them | 19:20 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | yeah | 19:20 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah that I think is the priority now. | 19:21 |
| SotK | +1 | 19:21 |
| diablo_rojo | Get that up to snuff so we can start getting people moved over. | 19:21 |
| diablo_rojo | fungi, any idea when the TC release goals for Queens will get set? Could make moving to SB a release goal? | 19:22 |
| SotK | regarding help, you can look at adding branches support if you want to code, or otherwise provide reviews and make sure I'm not doing anything weird on the LP side | 19:22 |
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| fungi | that's a great point. in http://specs.openstack.org/openstack-infra/infra-specs/specs/task-tracker.html#work-items we identify bringing it to teh tc, and the new goals process is a great means of doing that bit | 19:23 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | yep! | 19:23 |
| SotK | yeah, that seems like a good plan | 19:23 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, I'm definitely on it for the reviews. I can see if I can figure out what migration of branches would look like. Might need to chat about that after this in a little more detail to get me rolling on it. | 19:24 |
| armstrong | Hi sorry to disturb, which meeting (working group) is currently going on? | 19:24 |
| diablo_rojo | armstrong, its the storyboard project | 19:24 |
| SotK | diablo_rojo: sure, we can chat later :) | 19:24 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, sweet :) | 19:25 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | diablo_rojo: I will try to dig up my scripts for the python client, since they should give some hints around that | 19:25 |
| diablo_rojo | fungi, so what do I need to do to make that happen? | 19:25 |
| diablo_rojo | zara_the_lemur__, that would be super handy | 19:25 |
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| armstrong | ok thanks | 19:26 |
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| fungi | diablo_rojo: well, we _just_ settled on pike cycle goals this week... probably start formulating a goal to propose to the governance repo and you'll be ready to push it when we're closer to thinking about queens goal setting (boston summitish timeframe i think?) | 19:26 |
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| diablo_rojo | Okay cool. I will make that todo :) | 19:27 |
| fungi | i think the idea is that we set queens goals in time for teams to make progress planning them at the pike-cycle ptg | 19:28 |
| fungi | so the summit/forum before that is when we do goals gathering | 19:28 |
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| fungi | and you can look at other goals already proposed/merged to the governance repo for inspiration | 19:29 |
| diablo_rojo | Okay cool. That's the plan. | 19:30 |
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| diablo_rojo | Thanks fungi :) | 19:30 |
| * zara_the_lemur__ has 'update webclient components' listed as in-progress; did not do that this week. | 19:31 | |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | I did finally write up some detailed notes on trying the test openid server | 19:32 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | (a dummy openid server jeblair made to allow auth when not connected to the internet, for development purposes) | 19:32 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | which is a cool resource but has been in review for a long time | 19:33 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | flagging it up as something it'd be great to get more eyes on | 19:33 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | as I'd hate it to be stuck up there if it's just me trying to set it up wrong | 19:33 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | and it's fine to merge | 19:34 |
| diablo_rojo | Got that link? | 19:34 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | sure, 1 sec | 19:34 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/397998/ | 19:34 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | it got buried for a little while because I completely forgot about it | 19:35 |
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| diablo_rojo | Will review it today :) | 19:35 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I've added a comment with where I got up to with that so that hopefully others can see what I'm missing and we can get it moving :) | 19:36 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I have a couple of patches up in review, neither is amazing or urgent. | 19:37 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | and with that phenomenal sales pitch | 19:37 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/416070/ | 19:38 |
| diablo_rojo | I already reviewed the openid server :) | 19:38 |
| diablo_rojo | That one too | 19:38 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | SotK: (I should've replied there, the answer is 'yeah I agree it needs fixing, I just don't know when I'll get around to it so would rather make incremental progress') | 19:38 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | and | 19:38 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/418122/ | 19:38 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | which we talked about | 19:39 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | diablo_rojo: yes, thanks! :D | 19:39 |
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| * SotK will add a +2 later | 19:42 | |
| zara_the_lemur__ | with the openid server, I don't want to merge if I can't get it working and I don't feel I can say 'this person who isn't the author has tried it and can show others how to use it' | 19:42 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | thanks | 19:43 |
| fungi | are you having trouble getting an openstackid instance running? or are you testing against one of our existing instances? | 19:43 |
| fungi | worth noting, i think clarkb discovered that openstackid.org (and probably openstackid-dev.openstack.org) won't authenticate your service if it lacks a reverse dns entry | 19:44 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | fungi: this is just a fake-openid provider for use on something like a plane or something like that; I don't think we've looked into openstackid much yet. | 19:44 |
| fungi | oh! okay, completely different | 19:45 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | yeah, sorry for the confusion | 19:45 |
| clarkb | fungi: correct, it has to be a valid tld and all that | 19:45 |
| * fungi misunderstood, didn't look at your change | 19:45 | |
| clarkb | foo.clarkb.test.local or whatever i used wasn't good enough | 19:45 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | (I wouldn't've brought it up in the meeting due to the confusion-potential, but it's been languishing for ages so this is me poking around for help. :)) | 19:45 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | and that's useful to know, thanks | 19:46 |
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| clarkb | I talked to smarcet about it and I think they intend on relaxing that requirement but not sure if it happened yet | 19:47 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | okay, I'll keep a general ear out for that | 19:49 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #topic Open Discussion | 19:49 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | I realised I should've changed that about 30 minutes ago | 19:49 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | oh well | 19:49 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | we have 10 minutes to discuss openly | 19:50 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | after that, we require deceit. | 19:50 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | should we have an idea of where we want the migration scripts to be this time next week? | 19:52 |
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| diablo_rojo | Done would be great :) | 19:52 |
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| diablo_rojo | Lol | 19:52 |
| SotK | I agree | 19:52 |
| SotK | done would be ideal | 19:53 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | as long as I don't have to define done ;) | 19:53 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | is there a day it'd be good for everyone to be around for this? | 19:53 |
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| * SotK doesn't know yet | 19:53 | |
| zara_the_lemur__ | okay, please keep me posted | 19:54 |
| diablo_rojo | I will be here today and tomorrow. | 19:54 |
| SotK | I shall keep posted | 19:54 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | if you spin up the test instance somewhere I have access to, I can test it | 19:55 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | might catch some things in 'misc bugfixing' | 19:55 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | spin up/apply scripts | 19:55 |
| SotK | alright, I'll see what I can do :) | 19:56 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | btw I'm figuring you're doing most of the 'actually write the scripts stuff' because that's how we started out, but also feel free to poke me about that if you want | 19:56 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I just figured it wasn't something that divided up well | 19:56 |
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| SotK | yeah, I don't think there is a *huge* amoun to do | 19:57 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | if you do think of something, let me know :) | 19:58 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | otherwise I'll handle more... words... | 19:58 |
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| SotK | will do | 19:58 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | :) | 19:59 |
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| zara_the_lemur__ | next blogpost needs to be up in the next two weeks, I think | 19:59 |
| fungi | i'm around the rest of this week if you need to ping me for help with it | 19:59 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | I'm responsible for that for now | 19:59 |
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| diablo_rojo | There there would you like a hot beverage? | 20:00 |
| fungi | but mostly unavailable all next week | 20:00 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | thanks, we better finish | 20:00 |
| zara_the_lemur__ | #endmeeting | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 25 20:00:11 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-01-25-19.00.html | 20:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-01-25-19.00.txt | 20:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-01-25-19.00.log.html | 20:00 |
| ekhugen- | #startmeeting wos-mentoring | 20:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 25 20:00:30 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekhugen-. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: wos-mentoring)" | 20:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'wos_mentoring' | 20:00 |
| ekhugen- | Hi All, who's here for wos-mentoring? | 20:00 |
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| aimeeu | greetings ekhugen | 20:02 |
| CarolBarrett | hi | 20:02 |
| ekhugen- | Hi Aimeeu | 20:02 |
| ekhugen- | hi CarolBarrett | 20:02 |
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| ekhugen- | we'll give peeps a few more minutes to wander in | 20:02 |
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| aimeeu | sounds good - multitasking as usual | 20:02 |
| ekhugen- | #topic update on matches | 20:04 |
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| * ildikov is lurking :) | 20:04 | |
| MeganR | Hi | 20:04 |
| * ekhugen- waves to MeganR and ildikov | 20:04 | |
| Nicole_ | hi! | 20:04 |
| ildikov | ekhugen-: hi :) | 20:04 |
| ekhugen- | Hi Nicole_ | 20:04 |
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| ekhugen- | so before we get into the matches update, I think CarolBarrett has some news? | 20:05 |
| CarolBarrett | I do - Thanks ekhugen! | 20:06 |
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| CarolBarrett | After 35 years in the High Tech industry, I will be retiring from Intel on February 2nd. | 20:06 |
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| ekhugen- | #topic Congratulations Carol! | 20:07 |
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| aimeeu | +1 ^ | 20:07 |
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| ekhugen- | we will miss you on IRC and in person, but we're very happy for (and Jealous of) you! | 20:07 |
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| CarolBarrett | Thanks!! I've been working towards this for a while...I will miss all of the People the most! | 20:08 |
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| MeganR | we are sooooo going to miss you! | 20:08 |
| Nicole_ | echo-ing everyone's sentiments. speaking of mentoring, carol has certainly been a mentor for me as i've become more deeply involved in the openstack community. i will certainly miss you, carol! | 20:11 |
| ekhugen- | +1 Nicole_ | 20:11 |
| CarolBarrett | Thanks you guys! | 20:11 |
| ildikov | CarolBarrett: I'm so happy for you! And hereby I would like to join to the "We will miss you much!" team! :) | 20:12 |
| CarolBarrett | Thanks Ildikov! | 20:12 |
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| ekhugen- | #topic update on current matches | 20:14 |
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| ekhugen- | I hope I didn't cut the previous topic off too soon, but I want to make sure we have time to talk about Boston | 20:15 |
| ekhugen- | I think nearly all our current matches are going strong still, several of them replied to the update note | 20:16 |
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| ekhugen- | in one case a mentee had changed direction, so the mentoring relationship was on hold | 20:16 |
| ekhugen- | any questions or comments on current matches? | 20:17 |
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| Nicole_ | no questions on current matches, but another part of the conversation (and outgoing message) was about interest in a session at the summit. | 20:18 |
| Nicole_ | a session in which mentors/mentees share their experiences. led by anne mccormick. do we know how that is coming along? | 20:18 |
| ekhugen- | Nicole_ yes, good point, let's switch to talking about Boston | 20:18 |
| ekhugen- | #topic Boston planning | 20:18 |
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| ekhugen- | Anne got several people for her panel (I'm on it, Anne's mentee is on it, there were 2 other mentors( | 20:19 |
| ekhugen- | I think she submitted that today to the call for presentations | 20:19 |
| Nicole_ | ok, that's great news! | 20:19 |
| ekhugen- | if anyone else wanted to be the rep from the mentoring committee, I'm happy to give up my spot too | 20:20 |
| CarolBarrett | Good stuff! | 20:20 |
| MeganR | That is great - looking forward to the talk! | 20:21 |
| ekhugen- | now about Speed Mentoring for Boston | 20:21 |
| Nicole_ | i would be interested in seeing how we can tell more of these mentee/mentor stories, perhaps through short (say, 30 sec) video clips. just a thought. | 20:22 |
| ekhugen- | first of all, we'll miss Carol as our timer and organizer! | 20:22 |
| ekhugen- | oh Nicole that's a great idea, have you asked the foundation about that? | 20:22 |
| Nicole_ | i haven't yet, but i'll plan to do that! | 20:22 |
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| ekhugen- | I think if we had a way to tell the stories, like asking people to record their videos and send it in somewhere, we'd probably get good responses | 20:24 |
| Nicole_ | i love that idea! | 20:25 |
| MeganR | Possibly at OpenStack days | 20:25 |
| ekhugen- | +1 MeganR | 20:25 |
| Nicole_ | oh, that'd be great! and then we can work with the foundation to find a place to post & promote them online. | 20:26 |
| MeganR | HeidiJoy is a great person to ask - she worked on the PTL interviews, and can give some guidance on moving forward | 20:26 |
| Nicole_ | i'm in touch with heidi joy, allison & nicole there ... i'll start with heidi joy ... | 20:26 |
| Nicole_ | oh, excellent megan! | 20:27 |
| Nicole_ | i'll talk to heidi joy! | 20:27 |
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| Nicole_ | about boston planning, have we confirmed a day/time for the speed mentoring session? we talked about moving it later in the day. | 20:28 |
| ekhugen- | cool | 20:28 |
| ekhugen- | so I think diablo_rojo left a message in openstack-women last week that it has to stay at breakfast for Boston | 20:28 |
| Nicole_ | oh, ok -- we'll plan on that then! | 20:29 |
| ekhugen- | but that hopefully we can start pushing on changes for Sydney | 20:29 |
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| * ekhugen- gets a little sad thinking about getting up that early | 20:30 | |
| diablo_rojo | ekhugen-, that's correct. Can't get it switched for Boston, but we should be able to for Sydney | 20:30 |
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| MeganR | *sorry, need to drop for a conflicting meeting | 20:31 |
| ekhugen- | diablo_rojo do you know were they going to give us the Monday first thing session for Boston? | 20:31 |
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| ekhugen- | thanks MeganR! | 20:31 |
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| diablo_rojo | I think the details are in the prospectus. Let me go see. | 20:31 |
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| diablo_rojo | Its Monday mornring | 20:32 |
| diablo_rojo | ekhugen-, you were correct :) | 20:32 |
| diablo_rojo | https://www.openstack.org/assets/boston-summit/Boston-Sponsorship-Prospectus.pdf | 20:32 |
| ekhugen- | So, I know it's maybe a bit far off, but does anyone know for certain yet that they'll be coming to Boston? | 20:33 |
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| aimeeu | 90% certainty as of this moment | 20:34 |
| ekhugen- | Nicole_I know that time isn't quite what we had hoped, but will it work for you? | 20:35 |
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| Nicole_ | yes, we'll make it work! | 20:37 |
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| ekhugen- | awesome | 20:39 |
| ekhugen- | Does anyone else want to run the Speed Mentoring session this time? Announce how it's going to go, etc? | 20:39 |
| Nicole_ | i'd be happy to "co-host", similar to what you & carol did the last time around. | 20:40 |
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| ekhugen- | awesome! | 20:40 |
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| CarolBarrett | +1 | 20:41 |
| diablo_rojo | I'll be around to help like I was last time, but I imagine I will get pulled away to be at the Keynotes early again. | 20:41 |
| ekhugen- | I think last time we talked about: 1 mentor per table, clearer delineation of technical/career tables, and asking people for their questions and mentoring preference when they sign up | 20:41 |
| diablo_rojo | ekhugen-, Yep that sounds right. | 20:41 |
| ekhugen- | oh and ushers to make sure people spread out evenly | 20:41 |
| Nicole_ | yep, emily ... i was just looking through my notes as well, and that's what i came up with too! | 20:41 |
| ekhugen- | so we'll probably need more volunteers this time around | 20:42 |
| Nicole_ | there was some talk about whether or not we wanted to use the rotation style too | 20:42 |
| diablo_rojo | I say make the mentors move so there are less people moving around and we save time. | 20:43 |
| Nicole_ | but i think we decided to retain the rotations | 20:43 |
| Nicole_ | yes, sounds good | 20:43 |
| ekhugen- | yep | 20:43 |
| Nicole_ | and we'll do the baseball cards again for the mentors ... that seemed to work well ... | 20:43 |
| ekhugen- | yes, those looked awesome, Nicole_! | 20:44 |
| Nicole_ | cool! | 20:44 |
| ekhugen- | I'm thinking we should ask for mentors earlier, maybe right after the PTG? | 20:44 |
| ekhugen- | or possibly even at the PTG? | 20:44 |
| Nicole_ | yes, that would be great ... certainly helps with the logistics around creating the baseball cards | 20:44 |
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| ekhugen- | so plan maybe March 1 to send out an email to the dev listserv asking for volunteers for speed mentoring? | 20:46 |
| diablo_rojo | ekhugen-, Yes it would be good to do that early, though people may not be sure they are going to be at the summit yet | 20:46 |
| ekhugen- | and maybe we should do a signup form with the baseball card questions, the problem wasn't really getting mentors, it was getting their info, iirc | 20:46 |
| Nicole_ | yes, that'd be great | 20:47 |
| ekhugen- | good point diablo_rojo, maybe plan for like one March 1, one at the beginning of April? | 20:48 |
| ekhugen- | calls for mentors, I mean | 20:48 |
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| Nicole_ | who should we work with to solicit info (e.g. top 3 interests/questions) from those who register? | 20:49 |
| diablo_rojo | ekhugen-, Yeah that sounds good. | 20:50 |
| ekhugen- | diablo_rojo maybe someone from the foundation is setting up the RSVP and could ask the extra questions? | 20:50 |
| diablo_rojo | ekhugen-, Yeah I can talk to Erin about that | 20:50 |
| ekhugen- | thanks! | 20:50 |
| Nicole_ | awesome | 20:51 |
| diablo_rojo | ekhugen-, Also we can maybe talk to the mentors that sign up to help with the upstream training for boston | 20:51 |
| ekhugen- | good idea, ildikov are you coordinating upstream for Boston? | 20:51 |
| ildikov | ekhugen-: yes | 20:51 |
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| ekhugen- | do we want to send out a joint call for mentors? or have you already started planning? | 20:52 |
| ildikov | ekhugen-: I started to ask for help for the upstream training things in general | 20:52 |
| ildikov | ekhugen-: I think we can do a joint call still, should still be beneficial, like emphasizing that we have a long term mentoring offering along with the quick start that the training provides | 20:53 |
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| ildikov | ekhugen-: so I can mention that to people who're volunteering as training mentors if they haven't considered it yet | 20:54 |
| ekhugen- | yeah, maybe asking for mentors for speed mentoring, upstream, and long term mentoring all at the same time | 20:54 |
| ildikov | ekhugen-: speed mentoring also of course | 20:54 |
| ildikov | yeah, I think that makes sense | 20:55 |
| ekhugen- | cool | 20:55 |
| ildikov | I think if we have one sheet where people can sign up for either or all will make it easier to track on both sides | 20:55 |
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| ildikov | and people will not get confused regarding what they signed up for and what not | 20:55 |
| ekhugen- | ildikov +1 | 20:55 |
| spotz | diablo_rojo: Will most likely be in touch about training mentors | 20:56 |
| spotz | and a late CarolBarrett we'll miss you:( | 20:56 |
| ekhugen- | the current mentoring form asks if you want to help with other events, so we can just ask them to click yes and put in "speed mentoring" or "upstream" in the comment box | 20:56 |
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| diablo_rojo | spotz, youre interested in helping? | 20:57 |
| CarolBarrett | Thanks spotz! | 20:57 |
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| spotz | diablo_rojo: Yeah and might have some others so will drop you an email when I have more details for you | 20:57 |
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| * ekhugen- thinks that spotz is awesome | 20:58 | |
| ekhugen- | in our last two minutes, any other topics? | 20:58 |
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| CarolBarrett | I've got to drop - It's been a pleasure working with this team - best wishes for your continued success, within OpenStack, your careers and your lives! | 20:59 |
| Nicole_ | none at this point | 20:59 |
| Nicole_ | you too, carol! | 20:59 |
| ekhugen- | Thanks CarolBarrett! Best wishes to you too! | 20:59 |
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| ekhugen- | talk to everyone in 2 weeks! | 20:59 |
| ekhugen- | #endmeeting | 20:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Jan 25 20:59:41 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/wos_mentoring/2017/wos_mentoring.2017-01-25-20.00.html | 20:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/wos_mentoring/2017/wos_mentoring.2017-01-25-20.00.txt | 20:59 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/wos_mentoring/2017/wos_mentoring.2017-01-25-20.00.log.html | 20:59 |
| notmyname | swift team meeting time | 21:00 |
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| notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Jan 25 21:00:15 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'swift' | 21:00 |
| notmyname | who's here for the swift team meeting? | 21:00 |
| m_kazuhiro | o/ | 21:00 |
| mattoliverau | morning and happy Australia day. | 21:00 |
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| bkeller` | o/ | 21:00 |
| hurricanerix | o/ | 21:00 |
| tdasilva | hi | 21:00 |
| sgundur | hi | 21:00 |
| clayg | hi | 21:00 |
| timburke | o/ | 21:00 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: is today a holiday in Oz? | 21:00 |
| mattoliverau | yup | 21:00 |
| mathiasb | o/ | 21:01 |
| jrichli | o/ | 21:01 |
| clayg | everyday is a holiday in Oz | 21:01 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: and you are still at the swift meeting. what devotion :-) | 21:01 |
| acoles | hi | 21:01 |
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| mattoliverau | planning on firing up the spit and slow cooking a leg of lamb ;) | 21:01 |
| notmyname | nice | 21:01 |
| notmyname | welcome, everyone | 21:01 |
| acoles | mattoliverau: just another ordinary day then | 21:01 |
| mattoliverau | acoles: thats right, lol | 21:01 |
| tdasilva | acoles: he forgot to mention: "overlooking the beach" | 21:02 |
| notmyname | agenda for this week is at... | 21:02 |
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| cschwede | hello | 21:02 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:02 |
| notmyname | I'll go slightly out of order from what's there | 21:02 |
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| notmyname | #topic FYI things | 21:02 |
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| mattoliverau | tdasilva: I'm not cruel :P | 21:02 |
| tdasilva | heh | 21:02 |
| notmyname | just a few things to be aware of here | 21:03 |
| * notmyname gets organized with links | 21:03 | |
| * kota_ is almost read only | 21:03 | |
| notmyname | kota_: no worries. get well soon | 21:03 |
| notmyname | #link https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/pike/index.html | 21:03 |
| * clayg feels bad about giving kota my bug :'( | 21:03 | |
| notmyname | that's the TC-approved goals for Pike | 21:03 |
| clayg | what were our goals for octocat? did we do it!? | 21:04 |
| notmyname | the only one for ocata was to stop using deprecated oslo libs | 21:04 |
| notmyname | so...done! | 21:04 |
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| notmyname | good job, team | 21:04 |
| mattoliverau | \o/ | 21:04 |
| tdasilva | we are so awesome | 21:04 |
| notmyname | the first one (make projects use WSGI) I *think* might not have anything for us to do in swift. I think the implementation for us are just to make sure that the proxy server can work under apache/mod_wsgi | 21:05 |
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| tdasilva | notmyname: it states: "Control Plane API endpoints" | 21:05 |
| tdasilva | swift is not control plane, is it? | 21:05 |
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| notmyname | however, when I looked at the devstack code, it seemed to indicate that if you give it the "use mod_wsgi" flag, it startes *everything* that way. which won't work for storage services | 21:06 |
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| notmyname | tdasilva: true, so there's some wiggle room there | 21:06 |
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| notmyname | so there might be a small change to devstack needed that we may be consulted on (or one of us might need to do) | 21:06 |
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| notmyname | the second goal listed is "support py35" | 21:07 |
| notmyname | this one, of course, is rather bigger | 21:07 |
| cschwede | hmm, a change in devstack or in swift? like making swift storage services wsgi compatible? | 21:07 |
| notmyname | cschwede: in devstack | 21:07 |
| cschwede | this might need some clarification at the PTG | 21:08 |
| notmyname | for py35, obviously there's been a lot of discussion before on this, and there's a lot of work to do in swift (including some tricky questions that don't yet have answers) | 21:08 |
| clayg | notmyname: timburke basically already has swift working under py3 - he's just keeping it himself | 21:08 |
| timburke | ssssh! it's a surprise! | 21:08 |
| clayg | rofl! | 21:08 |
| notmyname | cschwede: if you look at yesterday's TC meeting log, you can see the end of the discussion on it, including some of my comments | 21:08 |
| mattoliverau | ok no need to worry about py3, timburke's got it covered ;P | 21:09 |
| clayg | mattoliverau: i *never* worry about py3 | 21:09 |
| notmyname | I do not expect to have py3 done during the Pike openstack time period | 21:09 |
| mattoliverau | lol | 21:09 |
| timburke | really, sounds like dims is making solid progress on it | 21:09 |
| clayg | notmyname: do we get kicked out of openstack!? | 21:09 |
| cschwede | notmyname: ok, will read TC log after the mtg | 21:09 |
| notmyname | but we'll likely need to show some progress, including identifying tricky or blocking or just not-done issues | 21:10 |
| notmyname | cschwede: ok. yesterday i found some part of the devstack code that I can point you to | 21:10 |
| notmyname | also, I believe there will be some discussion at the PTG about these two pike goals | 21:10 |
| notmyname | ...which brings us to the next topic | 21:11 |
| notmyname | #topic PTG | 21:11 |
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| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTG/Pike/Etherpads | 21:11 |
| notmyname | that's the list of all known etherpads for the event | 21:11 |
| notmyname | the way the event will work is that each of these teams listed on there will have a room, and the team in the room will be in complete control of their own schedule | 21:12 |
| notmyname | which means (1) you gotta find where you want to be and hope it doesn't conflict with something else and (2) for the event will looks very very similar to our last summit | 21:12 |
| notmyname | our planning etherpad is at | 21:13 |
| notmyname | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-ptg-pike | 21:13 |
| notmyname | so please add topics and/or details to that | 21:13 |
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| notmyname | over the next few weeks we'll be able to get a much better idea of what the wednesday-friday times will look like | 21:13 |
| notmyname | for us | 21:13 |
| notmyname | any questions about the PTG right now? | 21:14 |
| clayg | who's going!? | 21:14 |
| clayg | o/ | 21:14 |
| notmyname | I'll be there all week | 21:15 |
| timburke | o/ | 21:15 |
| kota_ | o/ | 21:15 |
| m_kazuhiro | o/ | 21:15 |
| clayg | ... forever alone (with notmyname) | 21:15 |
| cschwede | o/ | 21:15 |
| jrichli | o/ | 21:15 |
| clayg | oh... or not - good :D | 21:15 |
| mathiasb | o/ | 21:15 |
| tdasilva | o/ | 21:15 |
| bkeller` | o/ | 21:15 |
| notmyname | acoles: ? | 21:15 |
| acoles | not sure yet | 21:15 |
| timburke | torgomatic and timur | 21:15 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:15 |
| tdasilva | mattoliverau? | 21:15 |
| notmyname | hurricanerix: ? | 21:16 |
| mattoliverau | I'm still figuring out attendance, so far I might only be allowed to come for 3 nights, so I'd be very jetlagged. 56 hours of transit for 74 hours on ground. Also it's so late it'll all be economy. Tho I hope to have a plan in the next day or 2. | 21:16 |
| cschwede | looks like the usual suspects! will be great to see y'all there :) | 21:16 |
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| mattoliverau | but at this stage.. yeah I hope to be there. | 21:16 |
| notmyname | #topic upcoming releases | 21:17 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "upcoming releases (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:17 | |
| notmyname | I need to tag a swiftclient release this week to match the openstack ocata release schedule | 21:17 |
| notmyname | I've talked to both timburke and joel about it (joel is sick, too) and they don't have anything major outstanding (ie blocking stuff) | 21:18 |
| notmyname | so I will write up the authors/changelog patch and get that in, either today or tomorrow | 21:18 |
| tdasilva | would not call it blocking, but it would be nice to see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/423377/ land, i believe the server side already landed | 21:18 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: ah, nice. yeah if the sever-side landed, that would be great to have in | 21:19 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: but you've got a -1 on it :-) | 21:19 |
| tdasilva | :/ | 21:19 |
| tdasilva | cbartz has been very responsive... | 21:19 |
| notmyname | for swift, we need to provide a tag for the ocata release during the week of Feb 13 | 21:19 |
| notmyname | so we've got a few weeks on that (and we'll talk about critical bugs in just a moment) | 21:20 |
| notmyname | aside from the swift bugs that could block a release, any questions about these upcoming releases? | 21:20 |
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| notmyname | ok, then I'll come back to a couple of bugs in just a bit | 21:21 |
| notmyname | but first... | 21:21 |
| notmyname | jcaron: wanted to bring up a TXT lookup middleware | 21:21 |
| jcaron | sure | 21:22 |
| jcaron | :) | 21:22 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Swift/ideas/txt_lookup_middleware | 21:22 |
| jcaron | let me give you the context | 21:22 |
| notmyname | jrichli: what's up? | 21:22 |
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| jcaron | Few years ago, some customers complained about the cname lookup feature; after few exchanged with them, we understood | 21:22 |
| jcaron | that the authoritated name servers were hosted by Cloudflare. they resolve the CNAME(s) on their side without providing the CNAME string (CNAME Flattening). Surely their is other dns providers doing the same. | 21:22 |
| jcaron | I believe that using the TXT record looks like a good option to handle this use case. | 21:22 |
| jcaron | First of all, what do you guys think about it ? | 21:22 |
| jcaron | cname flattening : Â https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us/articles/200169056-CNAME-Flattening-RFC-compliant-support-for-CNAME-at-the-root | 21:22 |
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| notmyname | so we'd look for a well-defined dns TXT record and parse the contents? and use that for account/container resolution? | 21:23 |
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| clayg | so the story is "if you use some dns provider you maybe can't use cname middleware as is"? | 21:23 |
| jcaron | yep | 21:23 |
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| jcaron | exactly | 21:23 |
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| notmyname | I think it sounds like an interesting idea. and I'm assuming you've got customers at OVH who need this? | 21:24 |
| jcaron | Actually, we have an implementation, but maybe we can make it more general | 21:25 |
| clayg | jcaron: do you have any idea how broad the support for adding custom TXT entries is on popular dns providers (godaddy, ghandi)? | 21:25 |
| jcaron | I don't yet about it | 21:25 |
| jcaron | know* | 21:25 |
| notmyname | FWIW (anec-data), I've seen that in every DNS provider I've used | 21:25 |
| jcaron | But it's the purpose of it, isn't it ? | 21:25 |
| clayg | jcaron: well perhaps as a start we could file the bug against cname middleware in lp - and add the "less general" solution as associated project (reference from bug) | 21:26 |
| mattoliverau | Well you need to use TXT for things in email like SPF, so they all need to support TXT | 21:26 |
| notmyname | I gathered that a question jcaron has is if it should be done in the existing cname middleware or in a new one | 21:26 |
| clayg | mattoliverau: gtk! | 21:26 |
| jcaron | Yes | 21:26 |
| clayg | notmyname: IMHO that might have something to do with if we need to get cname? | 21:26 |
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| jcaron | Looks like it's better to have a shared middleware for it | 21:27 |
| jcaron | but it breaks the previous versions | 21:27 |
| clayg | notmyname: it sounds like mattoliverau thinks using TXT might just be a better and cover more use-cases | 21:27 |
| notmyname | jcaron: what breaks with previous versions? | 21:27 |
| notmyname | clayg: I tend to agree with that statement :-) | 21:27 |
| jcaron | Not really sue sorry, but like in the conf file for example ? | 21:28 |
| clayg | jcaron: yeah we can't drop the cname support out of the gate - but we can deprecate it - I don't think it's super widely deployed - and it could continue to live as an out of tree project if we decide we want to deprecate and only support TXT | 21:28 |
| jcaron | Ok sounds perfect to me | 21:28 |
| clayg | so if we *like* cname - and it solves something you can't solve with TXT - then we will want to keep it forever - and it should all just be one big bal of mud we maintain forever | 21:28 |
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| clayg | if we hate cname now and txt is the way to go forever - gah if only we had known!!!! | 21:29 |
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| clayg | ... then we can make a new things to replace the old thing and someday my grandchildren can get rid of cname | 21:29 |
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| notmyname | long-term, my gut reaction is to have one "dns lookup" middleware that can do both | 21:29 |
| jcaron | what if we use cname and TXT in different middlewares ? | 21:29 |
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| jcaron | notmyname : I agree | 21:30 |
| clayg | notmyname: ok, i'm just really not sure if cname covers some use-case that won't be better served by txt | 21:30 |
| notmyname | and to get there, we can either start with updating the existing cname middleware or start a new dns_lookup middleware and deprecate the cname one later after the functionality is rolled into dns_lookup | 21:30 |
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| clayg | if it's like "look two ways to do the same thing and one way is better we're not sure which" - then... that's less good reason to maintain the old way | 21:30 |
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| timburke | we could have an entrypoint for cname_lookup indefinitely, as long as it accepts the old options. we could still rename the thing and/or provide some shim into a more-general solution | 21:30 |
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| notmyname | I had assumed one of the main use cases of cname lookup was S3 compat | 21:31 |
| clayg | i just really want to know if we have two different use-cases | 21:31 |
| clayg | if it's only one use-case and our implementation sucks because you can't deploy it with some dns providers - there's a lot more questions about what to do | 21:32 |
| notmyname | and it makes me wonder if the TXT record idea might be an interesting way to solve some of the "we don't know the swift account" problems with s3 | 21:32 |
| clayg | if we have two use-cases and need two solutions it's super stright forward | 21:32 |
| clayg | even if there's a little overlap | 21:32 |
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| notmyname | clayg: so how would you feel about having a new dns_lookup one that does TXT records, and over time we can merge int eh cname stuff if it looks like it will overlap? | 21:33 |
| clayg | jcaron: can you write up more about your txt implementation - your use case and how your using it? | 21:33 |
| notmyname | jcaron: or share your existing code? | 21:33 |
| clayg | jcaron: do you feel like you could get exactly what you wanted from cname except the for the referenced cloudflare issue? | 21:33 |
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| clayg | notmyname: yes code always helps - just publish it somewhere on the internet doesn't matter where | 21:33 |
| jcaron | The implementation is directly done in the cname_lookup | 21:34 |
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| jcaron | So it does not make much sense | 21:34 |
| notmyname | ah, interesting. so you're running your own patch on it | 21:34 |
| clayg | I think for now a bug report against cname middleware and reference to cloudflare related issue is the best thing | 21:34 |
| jcaron | clayg : yes | 21:34 |
| timburke | notmyname: fwiw, i don't think it's an s3 necessity? not exactly, anyway. swift3 already rolls in something like domain_remap | 21:34 |
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| clayg | "I want to cname and can't because THIS" - I need to do some learning in order to understand next steps | 21:34 |
| jcaron | https://community.runabove.com/kb/en/object-storage/how-to-put-object-storage-behind-your-domain-name.html | 21:35 |
| clayg | a completely alternative implemenation for the use-case is cirtainly one way | 21:35 |
| kota_ | Timburk: that's what i thought | 21:35 |
| clayg | jcaron: that's awesome! | 21:35 |
| notmyname | jcaron: ok, cool. thanks | 21:35 |
| clayg | jcaron: still worth getting the diff on the inetnert - maybe not for people to use - but it'll give us a better frame of reference for the dicussion | 21:36 |
| jcaron | Ok, I'll ask rdisez about it ;) | 21:36 |
| mattoliverau | yeah, lets define the problem, and proposed TXT solution in a bug report or something. I feel like there cname and TXT might behave a little different, but I think I need to dwell on it a bit more. | 21:36 |
| notmyname | jcaron: I think that gives you a good starting point: bug against cname in launchpad and show the middleware you have | 21:36 |
| clayg | jcaron: you *can* just push it to gerrit and mark it WIP so you can refenrece form the ideas page | 21:36 |
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| clarkb | one of the big differences is that typically you will resolve a CNAME chain all the way down and many resolvers can do that somewhat automagically for you | 21:37 |
| jcaron | I think that the main diff will be the recursive step of cname | 21:37 |
| clayg | jcaron: also it sounds like *no one* is "against" the idea of TXT dns entry support in upstream | 21:37 |
| jcaron | that will not be necessary with TXT | 21:37 |
| clarkb | but that isn't the case with a TXT record, so if the domain in the TXT content is not a terminal you have to manually recurse things | 21:37 |
| clayg | jcaron: so you're solving an issue that has broad support/intrest - good work! | 21:37 |
| clarkb | (potentially) | 21:37 |
| clayg | clarkb: great context - thank you! | 21:38 |
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| clarkb | and along with that comes loop detection | 21:38 |
| clayg | jcaron: if you're at the PTG maybe we can go find a designate guy - they know things about dns (more than me, probably everyone at the PTG will know more about dns than me) | 21:38 |
| jcaron | Sorrrrry, what is PTG ? | 21:38 |
| jcaron | (newbie spotted) | 21:39 |
| mattoliverau | clarkb: oh yeah nice points, thanks man | 21:39 |
| clayg | https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 21:39 |
| notmyname | jcaron: the in-person event that's next month in atlanda | 21:39 |
| notmyname | *atlanta | 21:39 |
| clayg | notmyname: can we keep moving :\ | 21:39 |
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| jcaron | Ok thanks for the info | 21:39 |
| notmyname | clayg: yeah, was just typing that :-) | 21:40 |
| notmyname | jcaron: looking forward to seeing what you've got | 21:40 |
| clayg | mmmmm kauphy! | 21:40 |
| notmyname | now moving on to some bugs... | 21:40 |
| notmyname | #topic bugs | 21:40 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: swift)" | 21:40 | |
| notmyname | https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1651530 | 21:40 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1651530 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "suffix hash invalidation may be lost" [Critical,Fix released] | 21:40 |
| notmyname | fix released? we're done? | 21:40 |
| notmyname | clayg: ? | 21:40 |
| jcaron | notmyname : I'll reach to you soon | 21:40 |
| clayg | never before has there been a better patch than https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419787 | 21:40 |
| clayg | storage polcies - scoff - ec - scoff - crypto - scoff | 21:41 |
| clayg | it's all about the hashes! | 21:41 |
| clayg | srly tho https://review.openstack.org/#/c/419787 fixes the last remaining issues | 21:41 |
| notmyname | oh, but the bug already says fix released, and that patch doesn't reference a bug | 21:41 |
| notmyname | but we need that patch to land too? | 21:41 |
| clayg | acoles and PavelK have been amazing | 21:41 |
| clayg | the final diff is pretty manageable | 21:41 |
| notmyname | I mean, I'm told it's the best patch ever | 21:41 |
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| clayg | we should really get that in before we cut another request | 21:42 |
| clayg | *release | 21:42 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:42 |
| notmyname | who else should look at it? | 21:42 |
| clayg | Only question I have is for backports (only I don't really *care* about backports - so we can *not* talk about backports too - don't care) | 21:42 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: ? cschwede: ? | 21:42 |
| clayg | acoles: obviously if he *can* | 21:43 |
| cschwede | i'll have a look at the patch tomorrow morning - ie in a few hours | 21:43 |
| acoles | I intend to | 21:43 |
| clayg | yeah and cschwede - I think that would be good | 21:43 |
| clayg | we're good! | 21:43 |
| clayg | thanks guys! | 21:43 |
| notmyname | acoles: cschwede: thanks! | 21:43 |
| notmyname | ok, let's talk about https://bugs.launchpad.net/swift/+bug/1639691 then | 21:43 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1639691 in PyECLib "EC: Swift can return corrupted Data and be able to go data lost at isa_l_rs_vand policy with >=5 parities" [Undecided,In progress] | 21:43 |
| notmyname | clayg: you set it back to critical | 21:43 |
| clayg | I think mattoliverau also has some context - jrichli and mahatic might have looked at it | 21:43 |
| clayg | notmyname: ok yeah - thanks for bringing that up | 21:44 |
| clayg | ok... | 21:44 |
| clayg | so this only effects ida-l | 21:44 |
| clayg | *isa-l | 21:44 |
| clayg | that's intels' thing | 21:44 |
| clayg | and it only effects parity > 4 | 21:44 |
| clayg | ok, so know that | 21:44 |
| kota_ | Ah? | 21:44 |
| kota_ | It opens? | 21:44 |
| clayg | but basically all major distros ship a liberasurecode that is silently corrupting your data | 21:45 |
| clayg | if you upgraded you are maybe getting errors - but it's not so scary - but it will never get better | 21:45 |
| notmyname | they don't have libec >=1.3.1 right? | 21:45 |
| clayg | now that isa-l-rs-cauchy is out I think you should never let have someone have a isa-l-rs-vand policy with > 4 parity - it just sucks too much | 21:45 |
| notmyname | so then the question is what to do if we detect a policy with that config | 21:46 |
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| clayg | how is "they" major distros? yeah I mean we just released this shit - unless your swiftstack and you use isa-l with a policy parity > 4 - you're probably in such bad shape - it's really bad | 21:46 |
| clayg | and again - upgrading liberasurecode only makes it no EAT DATA | 21:46 |
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| clayg | it's still bad - it throws errors on bad erase lists (if you have parity > 4) | 21:46 |
| clayg | so I want swift to not let someone set themselves up for that footgun - don't care *what* version your running | 21:47 |
| clayg | not sure how to do that | 21:47 |
| clayg | or you know... if we *need* to | 21:47 |
| clayg | it's not my fault liberasurecode sucks and you don't know what ec policies are good | 21:47 |
| clayg | I'm square - so I'd be cool to make that bug like - w/e just close it | 21:47 |
| notmyname | well, it's easy to disallow that config. it's hard to disallow it and still allow access to data that may have been stored under a policy like that | 21:47 |
| clayg | ok, yeah so that would be the resolution to the bug IMHO | 21:48 |
| notmyname | how about a disallow this config unless there's a "YES_I_KNOW_I_NEED_TO_CHANGE=true" in the policy config? | 21:48 |
| clayg | swift would not start if you have that policy unless you ... deprecate it? patch would be simple and close the bug IMHO | 21:48 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: isn't there a deprecated flag on the swift.conf options? | 21:48 |
| clayg | tdasilva: I think that would make sense | 21:48 |
| notmyname | yeah, but if it's deprecated, can you still read the data? | 21:49 |
| clayg | you can still read data from it - but not create new containers with that policy | 21:49 |
| notmyname | ah ok | 21:49 |
| tdasilva | yeah | 21:49 |
| notmyname | then that's it | 21:49 |
| notmyname | but that's a pretty big warning to ops | 21:49 |
| clayg | and once you upgrade your liberasure you can make a new isa_l_rs_cauchy with whatever parity you want | 21:49 |
| notmyname | *needs to be a pretty big warning | 21:49 |
| tdasilva | clayg: is that true, i thought ceph guys still limited to less than 20 or something... | 21:50 |
| clayg | "warning" - you mean the swift not starting when it finds a isa_l_rs_vand with > 4 parity that's not deprecated? | 21:50 |
| timburke | you can also still create new data in any existing containers with that policy -- should we still allow that in this case? | 21:50 |
| clayg | I think it's sufficent to not start swift in this case | 21:50 |
| notmyname | clayg: warning in release notes, etc | 21:50 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: AIUI, pyeclib/libec will work as long as m+k<=32 | 21:50 |
| clayg | timburke: i don't have an obvious way to prevent it - also I don't care - I don't ahve any of those policies | 21:50 |
| clayg | notmyname: gotcha! yes! | 21:50 |
| notmyname | clayg: potentially even a major version bump (not sure on that) | 21:51 |
| clayg | notmyname: the change that makes existing configs cause swift to not start is one you might want make sure is g2g before rolling it out to all the nodes ;) | 21:51 |
| clayg | no idea | 21:51 |
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| notmyname | not only will it not start after upgrade, but the only way to make it start is to set it so you can't create new contaienrs with that policy | 21:51 |
| clayg | so everyone likes the suggested fix? what is the sevarity of the bug and if critical who's working on it? | 21:52 |
| clayg | notmyname: yeah! that's what I'm talking about! | 21:52 |
| clayg | wfm | 21:52 |
| notmyname | I'm just saying that's going to be a Big Deal (tm) for deployers | 21:52 |
| clayg | only if they use isa-l-rs-vand and have parity > 4 | 21:53 |
| clayg | and in that case - yeah sorry - it's a big deal for you | 21:53 |
| clayg | also you have to migrate everything | 21:53 |
| clayg | you're so screwed | 21:53 |
| clayg | i'm so sorry | 21:53 |
| notmyname | ok, here's a first stab at a way to handle this... | 21:53 |
| notmyname | next release, mention it in release notes, but don't make this a release blocking bug | 21:53 |
| notmyname | later, implement the check so it doesn't start unless that policy is deprecated | 21:54 |
| clayg | notmyname: ok for now let's just add a warning then | 21:54 |
| notmyname | yeah, that would be good too | 21:54 |
| tdasilva | notmyname: is the next release going to be the ocata release? | 21:54 |
| clayg | notmyname: move and then drop it down to HIGH - good plan | 21:54 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: yes | 21:54 |
| acoles | I think we need to at least log a warning to mention it in release notes | 21:54 |
| notmyname | ok, so who's going to work on implementing the warning? | 21:55 |
| clayg | tdasilva: and so you get a warning "your config is going to be deprecated - you need to upgrade liberasurecode - you've got a huge data migration on your hands" | 21:55 |
| clayg | I really like this plan | 21:55 |
| clayg | someone should make notmyname PTL | 21:55 |
| clayg | acoles: +100 log a deprecation warning and put in the release notes that we're going to put a huge wall around this footgun in a future release | 21:55 |
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| notmyname | does anyone else use ISA-L aside from swiftstack? if not, I'd suggest someone from swiftstack do the warning | 21:56 |
| notmyname | ie clayg, timburke, or me | 21:56 |
| clayg | if you're effected you have a release to prepare for our killing of this dangerous config | 21:56 |
| kota_ | Using | 21:56 |
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| acoles | not using | 21:56 |
| notmyname | kota_: oh? interesting. i thought you just had ntss | 21:56 |
| clayg | we're going to run out of time :'( | 21:56 |
| notmyname | ntts? | 21:56 |
| clayg | nhss? | 21:56 |
| timburke | sshs? | 21:56 |
| clayg | nssh? | 21:56 |
| kota_ | Shss | 21:57 |
| notmyname | whatever | 21:57 |
| clayg | rofl | 21:57 |
| tdasilva | rofl | 21:57 |
| mattoliverau | lol | 21:57 |
| timburke | bah. i was closest! | 21:57 |
| acoles | rfol | 21:57 |
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| notmyname | ok, so kota_'s sick. timburke or clayg? can one of you take it? | 21:57 |
| timburke | sure | 21:57 |
| notmyname | thanks timburke | 21:57 |
| kota_ | Thx | 21:57 |
| notmyname | #topic open discussion | 21:58 |
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| clayg | if it's not done by the PTG I'll do it - it'd be like... sometime after 2/9 | 21:58 |
| notmyname | I thinkw e made it through the meeting | 21:58 |
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| notmyname | clayg: nah, gotta be before the release (whcih is before the PTG) | 21:58 |
| notmyname | anythign else to bring up? anythign I missed? we have 1.5 minutes | 21:58 |
| clayg | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/415473 | 21:58 |
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| clayg | i accidently said that "someone" should break up proxy.test_server (so should!) - but then someone did | 21:58 |
| clayg | and now I don't know how to review it | 21:59 |
| clayg | any tips? | 21:59 |
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| clayg | Can I just +A like "whoops" - it's only tests - if they pass what's the worst that can happen? | 21:59 |
| notmyname | that's...a really big patch | 21:59 |
| mattoliverau | lots of coffee or scotch (depending on the time of day) and no interruptions :P | 21:59 |
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| tdasilva | my only suggestion to make it more managable would be to do the same i did for the func tests | 22:00 |
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| clayg | is it really going to take me a day of not working on swift to land a *test refactoring* | 22:00 |
| tdasilva | smaller patches, one for each controller | 22:00 |
| clayg | it should be a quick easy review? how else are we going to split up that file? | 22:00 |
| mattoliverau | oh get tdasilva to do it.. I like that plan :P | 22:00 |
| notmyname | lol | 22:00 |
| notmyname | ok, we're at time. we can take this to #openstack-swift | 22:00 |
| tdasilva | sure | 22:00 |
| notmyname | thanks everyone for working on swift | 22:00 |
| notmyname | #endmeeting | 22:00 |
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