Thursday, 2017-02-02

ekcstime for congress meeting. aimeeu thinrichs masahito ramineni_00:00
masahitohello, ekcs00:00
ekcs#startmeeting congressteammeeting00:00
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aimeeugood day everyone!00:00
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ekcshi all!00:00
ekcsHope everyone's having a good week  = )00:00
ekcsHere are the topics I have for today. Anything to add?00:01
ekcs- RC100:01
ekcs- PTG topics00:01
ekcs- PTG social activity00:01
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ekcsok then lets dive in00:03
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ekcs#topic RC100:03
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ekcsfirst an update on this crazy bug.
openstackLaunchpad bug 1659440 in congress "Erratic row list behavior with cross-policy rule" [Critical,Fix committed]00:04
ekcsthe synchronizer was adding and removing rules because somehow it kept adding the rule to the wrong policy or something like that. more details in the bug tracker.00:05
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ekcsI still don’t know the exact cause, but we’re fortunate that the issue seems to have gone away with a recent patch00:06
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ekcsother than that, does anyone have what they consider to be release blockers for ocata?00:07
ekcsafter reviewing the high priority bugs #link, I didn’t find anything that was an absolute release blocker.00:09
ekcsbut there were a couple that I’d really like to get fixed.00:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1657556 in congress "ceilometer_driver fail to poll HTTPInternalServerError" [High,New] - Assigned to Anusha (anusha-iiitm)00:10
openstackLaunchpad bug 1658263 in congress "head-only rule fails to make policy table" [Medium,New]00:10
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ramineni_ekcs: first one .. Need to just change except block to catch new exception right00:13
ramineni_I can submit patch today for that00:13
ramineni_Looks like simple one00:13
ekcsramineni_: yes i think so.00:14
ekcsOn the second bug, it just looks horribly broken to users because you create a rule a(1) and then congress says table a doesn’t exist. I think it’s a relatively simple fix, so I’d like to submit a patch for that today.00:14
ramineni_When is RC release planned?00:15
ekcsunfortunately we’re wokring against a very tight rc1 deadline, so it’d be great if we can prioritize reviewing and merging these last min patches by Feb 2 18:00 UTC, then I can do some final tests and tag for release before Feb 3 UTC.00:16
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ekcsRC1 is due Feb 2.00:16
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ramineni_Ok ..sure00:17
thinrichsHi all —sorry I'm late.  Meeting ran long00:17
ekcshi thinrichs !00:17
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ekcswe’re just talking about a couple quick things we’d like to try and fix and merge Feb 2 UTC (today).00:18
ekcsthere are also some outstanding patches in review.00:19
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ekcsmasahito: does this patch look good to you?
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ekcsok then let’s go ahead and merge that. thanks  = )00:21
masahitoI'll update the patch. I seemed to have an mistake.00:21
ekcslet’s also review and try to merge these two patches asap for RC1:00:22
ekcsI’ll submit my patch to #link in the next couple hours and tag you guys for review.00:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1658263 in congress "head-only rule fails to make policy table" [Medium,New]00:24
ekcsand ramineni_ you’ll try to submit a patch for #link for review? please tag us for that.00:24
openstackLaunchpad bug 1657556 in congress "ceilometer_driver fail to poll HTTPInternalServerError" [High,New] - Assigned to Anusha (anusha-iiitm)00:24
ramineni_Sure .. Will do that00:25
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ekcsawesome thanks a lot!00:25
ekcsany other thoughts on RC1?00:25
ekcsOk then. I think we’re in pretty good shape this release thanks to everyone’s work and early testing.00:28
ekcsHopefully we can actually release an RC1 this time that could be final RC  = p00:29
ekcs#topic PTG topics00:29
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ekcsaimeeu and others have put down a lot of notes on PTG topics. #link
ekcsI have gone through and roughly organized them into categories.00:30
aimeeuthanks ekcs!00:30
ekcstesting, quality, maturity and maintenance (TQMM)00:30
ekcsFeatures:Policy library00:30
ekcsintegration features00:30
ekcsinternal features00:30
ekcsUI features00:31
ekcsnew concepts00:31
ekcsmay be a bit arbitrary but just a first cut.00:31
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masahitoMay I add a bit?00:32
ekcsbetween now and the PTG, we can all add topics and respond to other people’s topics with comments and questions.00:32
masahitoIt's no a git item.00:32
ekcsand set ourselves up to be familiar with the topics and having gotten some clarification questions out of the way, so we can hit the ground running at the PTG.00:33
thinrichsekcs: +100:33
ekcsmasahito: yes please. that’s what the etherpad is for.00:34
masahitoekcs: thanks00:34
ekcsany thoughts on PTG topics right now? if not we can continue the discussion next week.00:34
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ekcsalrite then =)00:37
thinrichsI like the idea for pluggable proactive enforcement thru oslo.messaging00:37
thinrichsThe problem of proactive enforcement would be a great one to crack.00:37
thinrichsI think it could substantially improve the update of Congress00:37
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ekcsthinrichs: proactive would be great.00:38
ekcsi’m a little confused tho as to what exactly is meant by enforement thourgh oslo.messaging.00:39
ekcsoslo-messaging has a mechanism that can be used to block an action in transit?!00:39
thinrichsekcs: I thought you added that.00:40
thinrichsWho knows how oslo-messaging could be applied to do proactive enforcement?00:40
ekcsi think aimeeu did. under barcelona notes, but I didn’t remember it from barcelona haha.00:40
aimeeuI blame it on Bryan - they were his notes, so maybe we did discuss it a bit00:41
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aimeeudid that have to do with somehow reading in policy.json?00:42
ekcsaimeeu: haha ok. it’d be great to understand better what he has in mind. I could shoot him an email.00:43
ekcsanyway let’s move on then. we’ll come back to this if we have time at end of meeting. if not, please continue the discussion on etherpad =)00:43
ekcs#topic Ocata QA00:44
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ekcsoh I forgot the mention back in RC1 topic. I've retargeted the QA tasks for ocata-final-rc which basically means ongoing for each RC. Also added the task for datasource node failover test masahito suggested. Any thoughts or questions about that?00:44
ekcs#topic PTG social activity00:45
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ekcsdo we want to plan a dinner and/or activity at Atlanta?00:45
thinrichsI always enjoy that00:45
aimeeuWe could decide where to go one we are there - lots of restaurants within walking distance00:46
ekcsthank aimeeu. I think we should at least nail down a day tho so it helps people with scheduling.00:47
ekcsdo people have a good enough idea of their schedules to talk about day and time now? or we should come back to it next week?00:47
aimeeuagree - wed or thurs?00:48
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thinrichsBoth days work for me00:48
ekcssame here.00:48
ramineni_I'm also ok with both00:49
masahitoboth works for me00:49
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ekcsok then. I guess it’s a matter of whether we prefer doing it middle of our work days or after our work days.00:50
ekcscongress work days at least.00:50
thinrichsAre there interesting non-restaurant activities nearby?00:51
thinrichsWe'll probably be eating lunches together anyway.00:51
thinrichsSo I'd imagine mid-day would be mainly interesting if it's an outdoor activity that we'd want to do in the daylight00:52
ekcsgood point on non-restaurant acitivity.00:52
ekcsoh when I say middle of our work days I meant between our work days. Wasn’t thinking about midday but that colud work.00:53
aimeeumay be some ideas here:
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thinrichsSorry.  Didn't get that we were picking the day.  Thu seems more like a celebration since the core working days are done.00:54
thinrichsI'd lean toward Thu I guess.00:55
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thinrichsWe're in the Downtown neighborhood?00:55
ekcsi don’t have a strong preference either way on days. masahito ramineni_ aimeeu ? we don’t have to decide right now either.00:57
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ekcswould anyone like to volunteer to do a little bit of looking around and propose a couple ideas?00:57
aimeeuno preference either00:57
ramineni_When everyone reaching Atlanta00:57
ekcsramineni_: Sunday for me.00:58
thinrichsI haven't organized an outing before.  I can look at some options.00:58
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ekcsok thanks thinrichs .00:58
masahitoramineni_: Monday for me.00:58
masahitothinrichs: thanks00:59
ekcs#action thinrichs look at some PTG outing options00:59
ekcsok then time’s about up.00:59
aimeeuramineni_: Sunday afternoon00:59
ramineni_Ok . Im reaching Sunday afternoon01:00
ekcsif you have a preference between wed and thu, please let us know next meeting.01:00
ekcssee you all next week!01:00
thinrichsThanks all!01:00
masahitothanks all01:00
ekcsthanks all01:01
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ianychoi#startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting13:02
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb  2 13:02:25 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ianychoi. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.13:02
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suhhello I am Suhartono13:03
ianychoijpich, hi :) How is en-gb translation going?13:03
jftaltaHi !13:03
ianychoisuh nice to meet u here!13:03
ianychoijftalta, hi!13:03
jpichianychoi: Good, thanks to it I can test the job for the new tripleo-ui translation infrastructure now :)13:04
suhok, nice to meet you too13:04
ianychoiThis is today agenda i will follow it :)13:04
ianychoijpich, wow nice! suh: :)13:05
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ianychoi#topic Translation progress w.r.t. StringFreeze13:05
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jftaltaThe Fr Horizon translation is close to the end. A couple hours of work remain.13:08
ianychoiCurrent is during freezes :)13:08
jftaltaBtw, there is a new member in the french team. His name is Mateusz Kowalski (makowals)13:09
ianychoiAha i see I am seeing on Gerrit :)13:10
ianychoisuh,  how is Indonesian translation going?13:11
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ianychoiadiantum, hello r u online now?13:12
adiantumyep , i'm here13:13
jftaltaHi adiantum13:13
ianychoihi adiantum :)13:13
adiantumjftalta: hi13:13
adiantumianychoi: hi13:13
ianychoi#info adiantum is Ocata string freeze manager.13:13
ianychoiIf there are some issues, feel free to tell us :)13:14
suhIndonesian translation for Ocata release is OK13:14
ianychoiadiantum, sorry we might need a notice again soon. How do h think about it?13:15
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ianychoisuh, nice!13:15
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adiantumianychoi: ok, sure, we need to anounce Har StringFreeze13:15
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ianychoiYep let's consider a new notice :)13:16
ianychoi#topic Improve release note translation import criteria13:17
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adiantumianychoi: btw, will we include info about translation progress in the anouncement?13:17
ianychoiadiantum, good idea :)13:18
ianychoiThe link is what amotoki proposed a few months ago but I unfortunately missed..13:18
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amotokioh... meeting time13:19
ianychoiIMO release note includes all descriptions for all the releases so I agree with amotoki :)13:19
amotokii just noticed it13:19
ianychoioh hi13:19
ianychoiI want to listen to other translators for opinions13:19
ianychoijftalta, suh, adiantum are u translating release nites?13:20
adiantumianychoi: in plan but still in progress13:20
jftaltaFr : this work has just began. Only 4% done for the moment :(13:21
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amotokiin the current import threshold, we need to translate the threshold (80%?) of all releases.13:22
ianychoiI agree that translating release notes is difficult. How about applying lower criteria for release notes?13:22
jftaltaHi amotoki !13:22
adiantumamotoki: hi!13:22
amotokimy idea is to allow import if at least one release like newton/ocata satisfies the threshold.13:23
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jftaltaianychoi : would it make sense to lower criteria ?13:23
ianychoii agree with amotoki but with in the same cycle (for example, now >= 75 percent for Ocata)13:24
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amotokithe threshold can be changed I think13:25
ianychoijftalta, i am inclined to >= 75% for current+non-EOL releases13:25
amotokiI think some example help you all.13:25
ianychoibut it is just my draft idea13:25
amotokihorizon release note is like
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amotokiwhen I talk about Japanese community, after the current mechanism of release notes, translation of release notes is less attractive to all13:27
amotokibecause the volume is too high and it is not handy.13:27
suhthank, Indonesia (id) is in the horizon release notes13:27
amotoki(that's my honest impression so far)13:28
ianychoii agree with amotoki :) But I want to ask: do suh jftalta and adiantum feel the same as amotoki ?13:28
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ianychoiIn I18n team for me perspective overall feedback is important for defining a criteria13:29
adiantumi agree13:29
ianychoimy perspective means the role for PTL13:29
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jftaltayes, it's true13:30
amotokiwe are discussing two things. (1) do we have an interest of translating release notes (when considering the current volume)? (2) do we need a special criteria for release note translation?13:30
amotokiI think we are discussing (2), but my last comment above is about (1).13:31
amotokiif an answer for (1) is no, discussing (2) is not useful.13:31
ianychoiamotoki, thanks for clarification :)13:32
ianychoifor me 1) is yes and 2) would be >= 75 % for non-EOL releases13:33
jftaltaInfact, I think french OpenStack users feel fine with english release notes13:33
jftalta*in fact13:33
ianychoihmm i see then jftalta my suggested criteria for release notes is fine then?13:34
ianychoisuh, i think u translated a lot! Doesn't it? :)13:34
jftaltayes it is. +113:35
suhYes, I do just only translation13:35
amotokiregarding Japanese team, I think we don't have enough resources to translate *release notes*.  only horizon have good translation of release notes.13:35
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ianychoiThanks jftalta and suh13:35
jftaltasuh : and what about reviewing ?13:35
ianychoiamotoki, fine for this!13:36
suhI do not contribute other isssue13:36
amotokifor me 1) is yes but i have a question if it is doable. 2) +1 for per-release criteria13:36
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amotoki(useful if someone have an interest on translating it)13:36
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ianychoiamotoki, btw is it possible to implement such functionality: considering >= 75% per release?13:38
amotokiianychoi: that's the review I proposed and you linked before13:39
ianychoiokay.. then i am fine :) but please wait a little bit more :)13:40
suhFor reviewing, I might focus on improving quality of my translation.13:40
ianychoii will finalize around ptg by publicizing through mailing list and the discussion with release team13:41
amotokisounds good to me13:41
ianychoithanks :)13:42
ianychoi#topic Planning for Pike PTG13:42
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ianychoiPlease fill out if u r available13:43
jftaltadone for me13:44
ianychoiwith topics :) There will be the deadline for receiving attendees and topics (might be within a few days)13:44
-amotoki- honestly has not decided what sessions I join on Mon-Tue.13:44
ianychoiamotoki, haha u r so famous OpenStack guy :)13:46
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ianychoi#topic Preparation for Boston Summit13:48
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ianychoiWho will attend to Boston Summit? or are interested in?13:48
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adiantumi'm interested and will try to attend13:50
adiantumbut not sure yet13:50
ianychoiadiantum, oh good13:50
ianychoiI am thinking about 1 Forum session and a panel session13:51
ianychoiIf adiantum and jftalta are interested please tell me13:51
ianychoiMore idea is needed13:51
ianychoisince the due for a panel session is 6th feb i need to hurry13:52
jftaltaI'll be in Boston :)13:52
jftaltaI think Boston I18n session will be useful13:53
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ianychoi#topic Open discussions13:54
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ianychoiAnything else??13:55
jftaltaBoston is the place to be. Because it might be the last US forum for a while...13:55
ianychoijftalta, yep might be because of Trump...13:55
jftaltaThat's what I meant13:56
ianychoisuh, how is your 1st irc meeting?!13:56
suhYes, it is very nice meeting13:58
ianychoisuh, thanks a lot !13:58
ianychoijftalta, adiantum jpich amotoki thanks today!13:58
suhSo do I13:58
adiantumianychoi: thank you13:59
adiantumthanks all!13:59
jftaltaThank you all !13:59
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oomichi#startmeeting qa17:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb  2 17:00:17 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is oomichi. Information about MeetBot at
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jordanPhello !17:00
oomichihello, who can join today?17:00
oomichioh, my typing is slow17:00
jordanP(I can only attend 40min)17:01
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oomichicool, many people join17:01
oomichiok, lets get start17:01
oomichi#link is agenda17:01
oomichi#topic PTG17:01
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oomichias openstack-dev ml, the room capacity and something is not clear for PTG17:02
oomichiso we don't know how many topics can run in parallel17:02
oomichiat this time17:02
oomichiI feel we don't need to concentrate on the same topic by all people17:03
jordanPwe will see there, I guess17:03
oomichijordanP: yeah, I hope so17:03
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jordanPyeah, we can run several effort in parallel, depending on who is interested in doing what17:03
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oomichijordanP: yeah, that will be productive17:04
luzCI was wondering if we will add time for the agenda topics -
oomichi#link is nice to write more ideas17:04
oomichiluzC: yeah, +1 for schedule17:05
oomichiit would be useful for getting attendees for specific topic17:05
oomichithen we need capacity to make schedule17:05
luzCyes, specially if they are planning on attending other session17:05
oomichiluzC: yeah, nice point17:06
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andreafit would be nice to have a kind of agenda / priority lists so that we can go through the most important topics first17:06
jordanPnext topic ?17:07
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andreafbut I would not want to be too strict in terms of times, as we may find out that a topic takes very little time and another one longer than we expected, and we have more flexibility than in the usual design summit17:07
oomichiandreaf: yeah, I hope debugging test failures would be first priority now17:07
luzCandreaf +117:08
oomichiandreaf: yeah I prefer mid-cycle meetup style17:08
jordanPyeah, let's gather with a list of topics and once we are all here, see how it goes17:08
oomichijordanP: +117:08
oomichiok, can we move on if more topcis for PTG?17:08
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oomichi#topic Spec reviews17:09
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oomichiwe have several specs and they are still under discussion17:10
oomichido we have topics for them today?17:10
oomichiok, lets move on17:11
oomichi#topic Tempest17:11
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jordanPnot related to Tempest striclty, but we have a lot of job failures today17:11
oomichijordanP: yeah, we face17:11
rodrigodsi have a question about tempest, specific to
jordanPis there something to do ? 3 days ago gate was fine and now it's in a really bad state17:12
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oomichijordanP: I face different failures randamly17:13
jordanProdrigods, don't ask to ask a question, just ask it17:13
mtreinishoomichi: have you helped try to categorize the failures;
rodrigodssure :)17:13
rodrigodsthe problem is because this bug:
openstackLaunchpad bug 1590578 in OpenStack Identity (keystone) "global role should not be able to imply domain-specific role" [Medium,Fix released] - Assigned to Mikhail Nikolaenko (mnikolaenko)17:13
rodrigodsof this bug*17:13
mtreinishthat's what bugs me it's clearly bad (you can look at o-h for the graphs) but not many people are working on categorizing the failures so we can track them17:14
rodrigodsthe fix wasn't backported to Mitaka, so Mitaka job fails17:14
oomichimtreinish: oh, never see the page. how to categolize that? by LP?17:14
rodrigodswhat is the best approach? use a feature flag?17:14
mtreinishoomichi: submit an elastic recheck query17:14
jordanProdrigods, then either wait or introduce a feature flag17:14
mtreinishrodrigods: so the api behaves differently between mitaka and newer versions? Yeah you either add a feature flag or just wait for mitaka eol17:15
oomichimtreinish: oh, that is cool way. OK, I will do that from my patch list17:15
rodrigodsthanks mtreinish jordanP17:15
andreafsome of the failures are related to libvirt crashes, as jordanP pointed out - but something worse in the past one or two days17:16
andreafthe libvirt ones are all tracked in e-r as far as I know, but no-one stepped up to look at the issue17:16
andreafdo we have any libvirt person close to the openstack community that may help here?17:17
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oomichifrom jordanP17:17
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jordanPandreaf, we used to have daniel beranger17:17
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dmelladohey guys, I'm late today and I'll have to leave soon but o/17:18
jordanPand we have kashyap also17:18
jordanPbut the libvirt thing is not what we are seeing  today, not only17:18
jordanPtoday is worse17:18
oomichiyeah, hard to merge patches on current condition17:19
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oomichiwe are trying to fix bugs on tempest, but the patches could not be merged recently17:20
oomichithe bug triage graph is #link
oomichithe bug number still is decreasing, but that is low progress17:20
oomichithe graph is a little odd anyways :)17:21
oomichidue to data lack17:21
oomichithis week, I triaged bugs as assignee and the report is #link
oomichiops, that is #link
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oomichiI want to get eyes on for fixing a bug17:23
andreafoomichi: sure I will have a look at it17:24
andreafoomichi: but I don17:24
andreafbut I don't think it's Tempest bugs causing gate instability17:25
oomichiandreaf: yeah, Tempest is just detecting bugs of different projects in general17:25
andreafstill it's great to see the graph shrinking :)17:25
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oomichiandreaf: haha, yeah the number could be managable17:26
oomichido we have more topics of Tempest today?17:26
andreafjust one thing more from my side17:27
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oomichiandreaf: please go ahead17:27
andreafwe have an issue with reboot_hard where sometimes the host keys are not flushed to disk17:27
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andreafand the sshd server fails to start on reboot17:28
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mtreinishandreaf: I thought we landed a patch at some point that add a sync call over ssh before we rebooted17:28
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oomichiandreaf: yeah, 'sync' command doesn't work before hard-reboot?17:28
andreafthere's a patch available in cirros to make the sshd server regenerate the host keys on reboot17:28
andreafmtreinish: yes we did17:28
andreafmtreinish: but apparently it's not enough17:28
andreafmtreinish: or something else is going on - but in either case at the moment we fail with not able to connect to ssh port17:29
andreafwhich is kind of misleading, as it's not a problem with network, just the sshd deamon that fails to start17:29
mtreinishhmm, do we wait for a fresh prompt after the call? Because if we just send sync\n over ssh and then reboot right after there could be a race there17:29
andreafso a new release of cirros could fix that17:29
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andreafmtreinish: well as far as I know our exec method waits for a return code17:30
mtreinishI couldn't remember17:30
mtreinishandreaf: have you talked to smoser about a new release?17:30
andreafbut even a flush on the OS is no guarantee that the virtualisation layer will actually flush it's own caches to the disk17:31
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andreafmtreinish: yes I did I have a branch ready and I built an image and tested it here #link
andreafit seems to be working ok, even though now we have noise on the gate17:32
andreafI also tested this:
andreafforce deleting host ssh keys before reboot17:32
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andreafso I would now ask smoser for a new release and propose a devstack patch to adopt it17:33
andreafunless there is any concern with this plan17:33
mtreinishandreaf: ok, that sounds like a good plan17:33
jordanPandreaf did you open a pull request for cirros?17:33
andreafit's on top of branch 0.3 so only 2 commits17:34
oomichiandreaf: the problem has been fixed on cirros side, so this could happen on the other OS? or cirros specific?17:35
andreafbecause there's a lot more on master17:35
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andreafoomichi, mtreinish: yeah I feel a reboot hard test will never be 100% safe really but we can make stable enough for the gate so we can test reboot17:36
jordanPandreaf, good, as smoser expected17:36
oomichiandreaf: yeah, that is a nice direction17:36
andreafthe alternative would be to not test reboot at all in the integration gate, but that would be a pity since it's a feature which is probably quite used17:37
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oomichiandreaf: yes, reboot feature is used in common use cases and nice to keep the corresponding tests on the gate17:37
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jordanP(i have to go, sorry)17:38
oomichiok, lets move to the next topic if we can17:38
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oomichi#topic DevStack + Grenade17:38
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afazekaswe might ask the vm to shut down properly, before hard reset, and wait for a power down message  on the serial console ..17:39
oomichiafazekas: that could be soft-reboot?17:39
mtreinishon devstack one topic to keep an eye on is in this ML thread:17:40
mtreinishit's not directly related to devstack, but just OOM issues in the gate17:40
afazekasoomichi, On soft reboot the vm does expected to do it, but no . We would ask a booted vm to halt in safe way over ssh, before actually cutting of the power by a big hammer.17:40
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oomichiafazekas: the soft-reboot is trying to wait for vm gralceful reboot internally and hard-reboot after timeout in nova side IIUC17:42
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* afazekas I usually also drop the caches before hard reset, but we can search for what is really sufficient17:43
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castuloalso I submitted a fix for a bug in Grenade a few days back: in case you guys can take a look at it. It is for a bug that does not happen in the gate but happens when running Grenade locally17:43
oomichimtreinish: Interesting, the memory usage is still increasing on releases17:43
mtreinishoomichi: it's been a steady trend since juno (when we first started seeing oom in the gate)17:44
afazekasoomichi, yes, it pushes the power button softy on the vm, the vm has acpi signal handler which initialize the safe shutdown, if it does not stops the vm in time, nova uses the big hammer..17:44
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oomichimtreinish: can we increase memory capacity on the gate? or need to try reducing the usage on each project side?17:45
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oomichiafazekas: yeah, you are right. and the big hammer could erase the cache17:45
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mtreinishoomichi: we need to work on the memory footprint of the services. Requiring > 8GB per vm isn't really a good solution17:46
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mtreinishand it'll just be a matter of time until we hit whatever new amount of ram we allocate17:46
oomichimtreinish: it would be nice to see the memory footpring graph on o-h or something for each releases17:47
mtreinishoomichi: we don't collect that data anywhere. No one has done real memory profiling of the python17:47
mtreinishif we have the data, making the graph is the easy part :)17:47
oomichimtreinish: nice point, just a rough idea :)17:48
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oomichiI guess this kind of memory footprint could be useful for production as reference also, and nice to share17:49
oomichiOK, lets move on if we don't have more topic about them17:49
oomichi#topic openstack-health17:49
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oomichido we have topics about o-h today?17:49
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oomichi#topic Patrole17:50
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oomichiDavidPurcell: do we have topics about patrole?17:50
DavidPurcellA couple if that's okay17:50
oomichiDavidPurcell: please go ahead17:50
DavidPurcellI've already added these to the PTG discussion stuff as they all involve a bit of work.17:50
DavidPurcellFirst off, a lot of projects (glance, neutron, etc) don't return the correct response when a role is rejected17:51
oomichiDavidPurcell: cool, thanks17:51
DavidPurcellUsually it is a 404 NotFound instead of 403 Forbidden.17:51
oomichiDavidPurcell: nice testing :)17:52
DavidPurcellThanks :)17:52
oomichiis that different tenant case?17:52
DavidPurcellIt varies.17:52
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DavidPurcellSometimes it is just because you're not admin17:53
afazekasSome cases 404 is used if someone just trying to randomly  guess resources, not have the idea is it exists or not17:53
DavidPurcellbut they return 404 for whatever reason...17:53
oomichiI guess 404 also could be an option because different tenant users cannot see the other tennant resources17:53
oomichiok, this is a good chance to discuss the ideal behavior17:53
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DavidPurcelloomichi: Very possible, but some of them are just very obvious oversights.17:54
oomichiDavidPurcell: yeah, really nice test for me anyways17:54
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DavidPurcellAnother question we had involves tempest plugins for projects that want to use Patrole.  For example Murano wants to add Patrole tests.17:54
DavidPurcellBut that is currently not possible without either duplicating their clients in Patrole and putting the tests in Patrole17:55
DavidPurcellor somehow enabling them to import Patrole17:55
oomichiDavidPurcell: yeah, and patrole is on first dev stage, and difficult to provide stable interfaces17:55
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oomichibut it is great to attract the different projects by patrole17:56
DavidPurcelloomichi: and I'm not sure how I feel about a plugin importing another plugin.17:56
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oomichiDavidPurcell: that could be topic of PTG :)17:56
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DavidPurcelloomichi: already on the etherpad :)17:57
oomichiDavidPurcell: cool, ok can we move on the next topic: open discussion?17:57
oomichi#topic critical review/open discussion17:57
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oomichithe time is comming17:57
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oomichiso do we have patches or discussion topics?17:58
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oomichiok, lets end the meeting. thanks all :)17:59
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dtroyerOSC meeting time: dhellmann, rtheis, stevemar, sheel, huanxuan, thingee, ankur-gupta-f19:00
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stevemarjust switched desks19:05
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openstackdtroyer: Error: A meeting name is required, e.g., '#startmeeting Marketing Committee'19:06
dtroyer#startmeeting openstackclient19:07
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stevemaryou should have used "Marketing COmmittee"19:07
dtroyer#topic release status19:07
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dtroyerSo 3.8.1 is out and is the stable/ocata branch19:08
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dtroyeralso osc-lib, os-client-config and cliff are all branched too now19:08
stevemarrelease notes ^19:08
dtroyerwhile on that subject, fixing up release notes in both mitaka and master is in queue, suffering form (I think) the rash of libvirt issues19:09
stevemarrecheck recheck recheck recheck19:09
dtroyerI hate to keep doing that, it encourages others to do that too without understanding the failures… I've seen a bit of that the last couple of days19:10
dtroyer#topic reviews19:10
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dtroyerthat said, are there any open reviews we should discuss?19:11
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stevemari've been heads down on keystone stuff19:11
stevemarhaven't looked at open changes for a while19:11
dtroyerI've started cleaning up some of the osc-lib/occ workarounds19:11
stevemari WAS going to look at neutronclient stuff19:11
stevemari'm worried that neutron commands are drifting a bit from our prescribed command structure19:12
dtroyerof course they are… I'll take a minute to go look at them too19:13
stevemardtroyer: "a minute" -- they are huge19:13
dtroyermaybe that's my Boston conf talk… how to design a CLI19:13
dtroyerthere is only so much we can do in plugins it's the resource naming I worry about the most19:14
dtroyeralso, I added the volume v3 topic to the PTG list, Justin is not going to be there but I think we have a couple of things to decide19:15
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dtroyerstevemar: what would you think about putting the purge command and other things like that into a plugin repo?19:16
stevemardtroyer: we could19:16
dtroyermaybe an admin-y repo that has more sharp edges than the regula user stuff19:16
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stevemareh, then half the keystone commands could go there19:17
stevemar"admin-y" is not a good logical division19:17
dtroyerI don't mean all admin-only, just the not-your-usual-stuff.  purging is a Big Deal19:17
dtroyerok, yes, maybe extended-value-added commands19:18
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dtroyerpurge is the only one I have in mind right now19:18
stevemari'm glad that jordan is hooked in, he maintains ospurge19:18
dtroyerah, cool19:18
stevemardtroyer: "just-get-me-a-vm --image ubuntu"19:18
dtroyerhe has been pretty helpful lately19:18
dtroyeryes, things like that, although I'm not sure I'd want that one in the same plugin as purge :)19:19
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dtroyerthe other thing I want to explore is what mordred is doing with "direct REST" in shade, very similar (in concept) to how we did object and some of the image API bits19:20
dtroyerit's the low-level API I've wanted since the beginning19:20
stevemardtroyer: alleviate the need on python-*client19:20
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dtroyerI don't like the idea of yet-another-repo to install, but merging those might be very useful between OSC and shade19:21
dtroyerit's on my list of things to talk to mordred in ATL19:21
stevemari'm still confused why shade is in openstack-infra19:22
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dtroyerinitial convenience, now inertia19:22
dtroyerit was for nodepool and turned out to be actually useful19:22
stevemari would love to de-couple from glanceclient19:23
stevemarthat things brings in all sorts of junk19:23
dtroyerthat's the first priority19:24
dtroyerand why as mich of it exists in openstackclient.api as does19:24
stevemarit does?19:24
* stevemar gives dtroyer a skeptical look19:24
dtroyernot a lot, but more than any other except obejct-store19:24
stevemaroh look at that19:25
stevemarjust image_list19:25
dtroyerI think we're using that for image list at least19:25
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stevemarshould we use the SDK or bake our own stuff?19:25
dtroyerI really really really want a lower-level API than the SDK.  Still.  and what is happening in Shade is confirming that is not a Bad Idea19:26
stevemarthe sdk doesn't have all the stuff the that glanceclient has :(19:26
stevemar ugh19:27
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dtroyerI don't have much else here…19:28
dtroyer#topic open discussion19:28
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stevemari should make a glanceCLI vs OSC spreadsheet like i did with cinderCLI vs OSC19:29
stevemari think the guys on the team appreciated it?19:29
dtroyeryeah, it was a plce to see what is actually done already19:29
stevemarif we can get one less CLI in openstack by EOY, i'll be happy19:29
stevemari suspect nova and swift will around for a loooong time19:30
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stevemarswift will never go away for obvious reasons19:30
dtroyerI doubt we'll get anyone of the core projects to remove theirs19:30
stevemarkeystone left :D19:30
stevemarneutron is deprecated19:30
stevemarglance should be an easy win19:30
stevemarcinder ... *shudders*19:30
stevemarsmcginnis: you guys are as stubborn as your project name19:31
dtroyerthere is still too much "loss of control" felt by the teams to want to give those up19:31
stevemarsmcginnis: i say that with love19:31
smcginnisA bunch of block heads. ;)19:31
stevemarba-dum tsst19:31
dtroyersee now I always think f the "smoldering embers" connotation with cinder19:31
dtroyerbut then I was there wneh we pulled it out of nova19:32
stevemardtroyer: pulled it out?19:32
stevemardtroyer: you mean ctrl+c -> ctrl+v ?19:32
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dtroyeranotherjesse basically did a cp -r nova cinder and started git rm'ing stuff19:33
* mordred haves to dtroyer and stevemar - reads scrollback real quick19:33
dtroyermordred: you are implicated in yet another plot to overthrow something19:33
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dtroyerat least I'll have company19:34
mordredwell, fwiw, we've gotten rid of glanceclient and swiftclient so far and some tiny bits of novaclient. neutronclient is up next19:34
dtroyerluckily you don't need every corner case in shade :)19:34
stevemardtroyer: how are you planning the PTG?19:35
mordredin any case, I _definitely want to chat with y'all about this topic at the PTG19:35
dtroyerI'm listing stuffs in
dtroyerno schedule yet though, but I think other things I need to pay attention to happen on Tuesday so I'm leaning toward doing OSC-y things Monday19:36
stevemarsounds good19:37
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stevemartheres a few usability things we could improve with auth and such19:37
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stevemardtroyer: did we ever get any usable metrics on speed?19:38
dtroyerI've not returned to that since Austin19:38
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dtroyerbut I'm running dwarf locally on my new NUC and OSc feels _really_ snappy with it :)19:39
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dtroyerdwarf == very minimal OpenStack APIs wrapped directly around libvirt19:39
dtroyerkida what nova was at Bexar release, less multi-node19:40
dtroyerlets me use the same tools (OSC!) to manage my dev work19:40
stevemari was just googling that19:40
stevemardtroyer: he should move to OSC :P19:42
stevemardtroyer: oh oh19:42
stevemardtroyer: did you want to release our meta package?19:43
stevemardo a 0.1 ?19:43
dtroyeryes, but I was thinking it might wait until after the ff/rc crush19:43
stevemarthere are no tests for it :)19:43
dtroyersince it isn't goign to be an Ocata deliverable19:43
stevemarmakes snese19:43
dtroyeralso, I've wondered about how we should version it19:44
stevemarsome folks had wanted it19:44
dtroyerif that's what we talk about users installing, that's yet one more version to trac19:44
dtroyerkeep it's versions matched (at leas x.y) between both repos?19:45
stevemari hadnt thought of that, but that makes sense19:46
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stevemarmaybe do an initial 0.1? then 3.8.0 ?19:47
stevemaror whatever py-osc is at19:47
dtroyeryeah, 0.y and what would have been 1.0 becomes py-osc19:47
dtroyerand that's a good short name for the existing repo, thanks!19:48
stevemarwe should outline goals that we want to hit in Pike19:48
stevemarpy-osc vs osc :D19:48
ankur-gupta-f1hi sorry I am late19:48
ankur-gupta-f1anything to be aware of19:49
dtroyerhey ankur-gupta-f1, we're just chatting about random stuff19:49
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ankur-gupta-f1okay. I did have a question. Any example of how to introduce a new endpoint/service into SDK19:50
ankur-gupta-f1thinking Octavia19:50
dtroyermostly what you might need to know is that I'm being slow to merge new things that are not bug fixes or tests for a little while yet.19:50
dtroyerit keeps the process a bit cleaner if we need to do a quick bug-fix release19:50
dtroyerSDK stuff needs to go to briancurtin19:50
ankur-gupta-f1dtroyer: That is what i was thinking. Slow reviews makes sense. Have conveyed it to teamates with remaining neutron commands19:51
ankur-gupta-f1will take a look at launchpad later today19:51
ankur-gupta-f1how are we in terms of functional/unit test coverage?19:52
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stevemarankur-gupta-f1: lots of stuff needs to be converted to the new format19:52
ankur-gupta-f1json or regex?19:52
dtroyerour test coverage is overall pretty weak still.  Network is in pretty good shape there compared to most of the others19:52
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dtroyerI think I gave stevemar hives when he saw "import re"19:53
stevemarthe json format is so nice19:53
ankur-gupta-f1improves readability too19:53
stevemardtroyer: a light seizure maybe19:53
dtroyerit's turned out to be pretty clean19:53
stevemari'll start hacking at the identity tests19:53
stevemareasy enough19:53
dtroyerone more tiny-bit-o-news I just remembered:  reno handles editing relnotes from prior releases properly (I didn't know that had been fixed)19:54
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dtroyeralso, when merges we'll have complete stable series notes19:55
stevemardtroyer: whuaaa19:55
stevemardtroyer: what if you re-name the note?19:56
dtroyerI didn't try that, but I think reno matches filenames, so different names at different points in the git history is likely to be bad?19:56
stevemaryeah, darn19:57
dtroyerwithin a release series it is still ok19:57
stevemarmaster will still be funky19:57
stevemari'll give it a shot and see what happens19:58
dtroyerankur-gupta-f1: I'm guessing you will not be at the PTG?19:58
stevemardtroyer: reedip will be19:58
dtroyeroh, good19:59
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ankur-gupta-f1I fought very hard. But they won't be. Reedip can rep the neutron team19:59
ankur-gupta-f1hes probs a better person to have anyways :p19:59
stevemardtroyer: do you know if huanxuan will be there19:59
dtroyerI don't think any of the OSIC guys who have been contributing to OSC will be there :(19:59
dtroyerI havent heard about huanxuan recently, I do recall him not thinking he would due to the travle19:59
stevemarshould have applied for travel support!20:00
dtroyerand with that we're out...20:00
dtroyerthanks guys!20:00
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filowhi  there, i need some help with the openstackclient. I'm trying to run the example but it seems there is something not updated with the last commit. Does anyone try to run the example from the git?20:15
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dtroyerfilow: please come to #openstack-sdks for discussion, this is a meeting room…20:16
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mriedem#startmeeting nova21:01
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb  2 21:01:27 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:01
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova'21:01
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* Vek waves21:01
* bauzas waves21:01
macszdevelopers developers developers21:01
cdent /o\21:02
mriedemok let's get started21:02
mriedem#link meeting agenda
mriedem#topic release news21:03
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mriedem#link Ocata release schedule:
mriedem#info Today (Feb 2nd) is the target for Ocata RC121:03
mriedem#link Current RC1 TODOs:
mriedemas you can see, we have 8 possible rc blocking bugs21:03
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mriedemall have patches up, some are approved21:03
mriedemi've already talked to the release team about rc1 being tight,21:04
mriedemand dims_ told me i can take all the time i need :21:04
dims_within reason :)21:04
mriedemnot really, but trying to make sure we get the real blocking stuff in21:04
mriedemof which we have at least one i know of21:04
mriedem#topic bugs21:05
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mriedem#link ocata-rc-potential bugs:
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mriedem#link check queue gate status
mriedemthe last big gate issue bug that i was tracking is merged21:06
bauzascan we decouple the branch from the tagging? I thought not21:06
mriedembut ES is off the rails so we don't really know from logstash21:06
mriedembauzas: i don't know21:07
mriedemwe aren't going to branch ocata before rc1 though,21:07
bauzasmriedem: I ask for that because of all the implications our stable branch has for requirements or other stuff21:07
tonybbauzas: technically you *can* branch after rc1 (ie rc2) but that could be trick and you'd need dhellmann to agree to it21:07
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tonybbauzas: you *cant* branch befoer rc121:08
mriedemi don't plan on not creating stable/ocata from rc121:08
bauzastonyb: yeah and that would delay other things I guess21:08
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bauzasokay, we have a plan21:08
mriedemthird party ci21:08
mriedemmarkus_z: was your thing in here for this week?21:08
mriedem(markus_z) IBM zKVM CI asks for permission to post comments to Nova changes21:08
bauzasmy question was more about the fact rc1 could be tagged quite late21:08
markus_zmriedem, yep, it's meant for today21:08
bauzasbut I'm fine21:09
tonybmriedem: for the record the longer nove delays the ocata branch the longer requirements are frozen ... I don't have a problem with that ... just saying21:09
mriedemtonyb: let them eat cake21:09
mriedemok markus_z go21:09
* tonyb doesn't even know that what means21:09
mriedemtonyb: google french revolution21:09
markus_znot much to tell, we like to post comments on Nova patches from our CI21:09
markus_zsandbox communication tests worked so far21:10
mriedemmarkus_z: if it's just commenting and not voting i'm fine21:10
mriedemas for i assume you've figured that out by now?21:10
markus_zmriedem, only commenting first.21:10
markus_zmriedem, I haven't, no. Any clues?21:11
mriedemmarkus_z: i can't really get into it here, or probably today21:11
mriedemwith rc121:11
mriedemso let's talk tomorrow21:11
markus_zI'm not in office until Tuesday. If you could ping andreas_s, that would be great. Otherwise Tuesday is fine too.21:12
mriedem#info ibm zkvm third party CI will start commenting (not voting) on nova changes21:12
mriedemmarkus_z: tell them to ping me21:12
markus_zcool, thanks21:12
mriedem#topic reminders21:12
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mriedem#info Deadline for submitting talks at the Pike summit is February 6th:
mriedemjay is doing something on resource providers, dan is doing something on cells v221:13
mriedemi heard a rumor that PTLs need to do something on releaes highlights per project in general, but no one told me21:13
mriedemso i'm going to pretend it didn't happen21:13
mriedem#topic Stable branch status:
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mriedem stable/newton:,n,z21:13
mriedem#help We need reviews on stable/newton after the ocata-rc1 is done.21:14
mriedemi'm guilty of not paying much attention to stable/newton,21:14
mriedembut hope to get back on that after the ocata release21:14
mriedemor things cool down21:14
mriedem#topic subteam highlights21:14
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mriedemthere wasn't a cells v2 meeting this week21:14
mriedemedleafe: anything to highlight for scheduler21:14
melwittthere was technically, it was just me and dansmith21:14
edleafeDiscussed the issue with the RT patch creating "pure" ironic resource representations that would make them unreturnable to the scheduler, since the flavor extra_spec work to support ironic classes hasn't been done21:15
edleafeAgreed to have both the custom ironic resource class as well as the old-style VCPU, etc., resources in placement for Ocata, and drop the old-style once we supported ironic classes in a request.21:15
edleafeWe lamented that the CORS patch ( didn't make it into Ocata21:15
edleafethat's about it21:15
mriedemi hope there was gnashing of teeth21:15
* cdent has not teeth left21:15
cdentnor typing skills21:15
mriedemtdurakov: live migration subteam highlights21:15
tdurakov2 things to bring up from live-migration meeting:21:16
tdurakov- serial console hook required review:
tdurakov- claims for l-m: - once updated, requires review as well, all improvements will be done in subsequent patches21:16
mriedemthose are all pike at this point21:16
mriedemtdurakov: not sure if you're aware, but we have an rc potential bug for xen live migration
mriedemthat no one has really reviewed yet21:16
bauzastdurakov: live-mig claims are an old story21:16
bauzastdurakov: mostly because the patch is very hairy21:17
tdurakovbauzas: old, true, but need to be finished21:17
bauzastdurakov: could we imagine some better iterative approach ?21:17
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tdurakovbauzas: we could improve it forewer21:17
bauzaslet's discuss offline on it21:17
mriedemso again,21:17
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mriedem^ would be a priority for the live migration subteam for rc121:18
mriedemreviews would be much appreciated,21:18
tdurakovmriedem: ok, will take a look21:18
mriedemwould like john to review that, but he's been helping with other fires21:18
mriedemand we don't have multinode xenserver ci to test live migration which kind of sucks21:18
mriedemok moving on21:19
mriedemi doubt anyone is around from the api subteam meeting21:19
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cdentit was cancelled21:19
mriedembut i think the main thing this week was getting the server sort/filter whitelist api-ref and release note out21:19
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mriedemwhich alex_xu split the release note part out into
mriedemso ^ is the priority for rc121:20
mriedemsince we can do the api-ref in pike21:20
mriedemthe -1s on it are for English nits21:20
mriedemi don't see anyone around from the sriov/pci subteam21:20
mriedemnotifications meeting highlights from gibi:21:21
mriedemNo critical bugs21:21
mriedemNotification related release notes has been merged21:21
mriedem#topic ptg planning21:21
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mriedem#link Pike PTG planning:
mriedemthe etherpad she is a fillin up21:21
mriedemthat will all be shaken out after rc121:21
mriedemanything for ptg?21:21
mriedem#topic stuck reviews21:22
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mriedemnothing in here, and nothing that would probably get in today anyway21:22
mriedem#topic open discussion21:22
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mriedem#link FYI on a proposal to deprecate support for postgresql:
mriedemanything else?21:22
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mriedemif not i've got parent/teacher conferences for a 5 year old to get to, very important21:23
mriedemthanks everyone21:23
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armaxhi, no drivers meeting today if people are wondering21:46
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kevinbentonarmax: drivers meeting?22:02
blogankevinbenton: 15:46:15          armax | hi, no drivers meeting today if people are wondering22:03
armaxkevinbenton: you above anyone else wondering?22:05
armaxyou mocking me?22:05
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kevinbentonarmax: no22:14
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