Thursday, 2017-02-09

ekcstime for congress meeting ramineni_ masahito aimeeu thinrichs00:01
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thinrichsHi all00:01
ekcshi all!00:01
ekcs#startmeeting congressteammeeting00:01
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ekcsHi all. hope everyone’s having a great week!00:02
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ekcshere are the topics I have for today. anything else on our minds?00:02
ekcs- ocata bugs00:02
ekcs- PTG topics discussion00:02
ekcs- PTG social planning00:02
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ekcs- stable/newton gate issue00:02
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ekcsok let’s get startedthen =)00:04
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ekcs#topic ocata bugs00:04
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ekcsare there any new bugs we’d like to talk about?00:04
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thinrichsI ran into one .. the flag delete-datasources doesn't work.  Let me dig up the bug number00:06
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openstackLaunchpad bug 1663057 in congress "Auto-deletion of datasources fails" [Undecided,New]00:06
thinrichsThere might be a related bug.00:06
thinrichsIf ceilometer isn't reachable, does the Ceilometer driver fail to initialize?  That seemed to be what happened to me.00:07
thinrichsExample in that bug report00:07
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ekcsgot it. so it seems like the deletion is requring the datasource be reachable?00:09
thinrichsI don't think so.  Perhaps the writeup was misleading.00:09
thinrichsI think there might be 2 distinct issues.00:09
thinrichs1. Supplying the delete-… flag on the command line references code that has been moved.00:10
ramineni_thinrichs: I think bug seems to be because delete datasource is moved and not update in the function00:10
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thinrichs2. The Congress ceilometer driver seems to need to talk to Ceilometer when initializing.  If it can't Congress doesn't start.00:11
thinrichsramineni_: agreed for #100:11
ramineni_Will add quick fix for that00:12
thinrichsramineni_: great!00:12
ekcsgot it.00:12
thinrichsDoes anyone know if the ceilometer driver connects to ceilometer on init?00:12
thinrichsWe probably don't want congress to fail to start b/c it can't reach one of the other services.00:12
ramineni_It doesn't I suppose00:12
ekcsso 1. the deletion flag implementation needs some fixing up.00:13
ramineni_We just create client object00:13
ekcs2. ceilometer driver fails to initialize if ceilometer not responsive. probably doesn’t have to be that way.00:13
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thinrichsIf either of those 2 issues were fixed, I could have worked thru the problem, but since both were there I had to manually edit the database.00:14
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ramineni_Isn't the error because aodh is not started yet00:15
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thinrichsramineni_: You're right.  Not sure why I was thinking it was ceilometer.00:15
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thinrichsThe only other bug I saw was Eric's 500 on a nova delete.  I've got a devstack that won't let me delete the 'nova' datasource.00:16
ramineni_But it's happening with latest code ..I remember catching that exception and just return ing00:16
thinrichsI just created a new devstack this afternoon, so it should be from the tip of master.00:17
ekcsyea. the nova delete bug is here.00:18
openstackLaunchpad bug 1662809 in congress "500 error on nova datasource delete" [Undecided,New]00:18
ekcsi’ve narrowed down on how to reproduce it.00:18
ekcsthree things needed:00:19
ekcs1. a rule that mentions the datasource in head and body.00:19
ekcs2. the congress instance has to be “newly started”. if certain things take place, the error no longer occurs.00:20
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ekcsquite strange.00:20
thinrichsWhat's the 3rd thing?00:21
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ekcsoops I guess just 200:21
thinrichsKnow what causes "newly started" to be false?00:21
thinrichsI went thru that script of yours once (kind of) manually, then deleted the policies and new datasources, and ran the script again and saw the bug.00:22
ekcsthinrichs: I know i said over email maybe this is the cause of the depedency graph issue, but it could also be the dependence graph issue already exists and causes the 500 here.00:22
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ekcsthinrichs: actually I didn’t say it quite right.00:24
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ekcshere’s what happens.00:26
thinrichsHmmm…interesting wrinkle.00:26
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thinrichsSeems the nova datasource delete command returned 404 for me, but then deleted the datasource.00:26
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ekcsif I experience the error, then delete and create policy1 then run the same script again that generated the error the first time, error does not occur..00:27
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ekcsbut if i create and delete right from the start of congress, error still happens. quite strange.00:28
ekcsanyway. just want to mention it. not going to solve it here probably.00:28
ekcspretty important bug to fix because it is related to another issue that stops all rule insertions.00:29
ekcsthinrichs: I think it returns 404 because the delete went through the DB but didn’t finish in congress. so when you run delete again after a DS sync, the ds wasn’t there any more.00:30
ekcsIf I add the DS again and delete again it’s back to the 500 error.00:30
ekcswell let’s move on then.00:31
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ekcsunless someone wants to talk about another bug.00:31
ekcs#topic PTG topics discussion00:32
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ekcsThanks all for adding more thoughts to the etherpad. $link
ekcsis there anything we want to quickly discuss/clarify here?00:33
ekcs(may not be)00:33
ekcsI’m wondering what is meant by this:00:34
ekcsparallel enforcement: policy engine calls datasource driver serially when some actions needed.00:34
ekcswhich is the desired behavior? parallel or serial?00:34
masahitoit's an optional feature.00:35
masahitoI suppose congress has new flag, parallel enforcement or something like this.00:36
ekcsmasahito: got it. so which behavior is it that we want to consider adding? parallel or serial?00:36
ekcsfor performance/responsiveness reasons?00:36
masahitoI'll add an example rule in the enforcement.00:36
masahitoekcs: yes00:37
ekcsmasahito: got it!00:37
masahitos/in the enforcement/in the etherpad/00:37
ekcsso why don’t we continue adding our thoughts to the etherpad (if there is more), and I’ll send out on ML a proposed rough schedule that we can finalize next IRC?00:38
ekcsbased on all the topics in the pad.00:38
thinrichsSounds good00:39
ekcsok moving on then if there’s nothing else on this topic atm.00:39
ekcs#topic PTG social00:40
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ekcsthinrichs sent out an email regarding this.00:40
ekcsthinrichs: you wanna talk more about it?00:40
thinrichsHere's the link00:40
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thinrichsI found 2 vegetarian-friendly restaurants for dinner (one Ethiopian, one American), both highly rated on trip advisor.00:41
thinrichsI also found 2 outings: the aquarium and the botanical gardens00:41
thinrichsWe could do a combo of dinner and outing, or just 1 of them.00:41
ekcsI’ve heard good things about the aquariam.00:42
thinrichsOther preferences?00:42
thinrichsDid we ever pick a day?  Wed night or Thu night?00:42
masahitothinrichs: thank you! all of your choices looks great!00:43
thinrichsThanks!  I'm happy to do it.00:43
ekcsI don’t think we picked a day.00:43
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ramineni_thinrichs: thanks for the options .. looks great00:45
ekcsaquarium i heard is really great, but i’m not sure how much time people want to dedicate to it. if we do a quick mid-day trip, it feels like a waste of the $44 ticket.00:45
thinrichsAnd we can always choose to do the aquarium / botanical gardens on the spur of the moment when we're there.00:46
thinrichsMaybe we should choose a restaurant and a day and make reservations00:46
ekcsgreat let’s do that.00:46
thinrichsAny preferences for days or Ethiopian/American?00:46
thinrichsIf not, I can pick one when making reservations.00:47
ekcsboth restaurants seem good to me. no preference.00:47
ramineni_Thursday should be good00:47
ekcsI slightly prefer thursday but not by much.00:47
ramineni_Ethiopian looks far right00:48
thinrichsmasahito, aimeeu: preference on day?00:48
thinrichsEthiopian is a little farther away (20min).00:48
masahitoI prefer Thursday00:48
aimeeuno preference on day or restaurant00:48
thinrichsThursday it is then.00:49
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thinrichsI'd lean toward the american place, since it's closer.00:49
ekcssounds good to me.00:50
ramineni_Sounds good ..00:50
masahitome too00:50
thinrichsOkay.  I'll make the reservation for Thu night at the American place.  Say 7p?00:51
aimeeuyes - no easy way to get to Ethiopian on the MARTA00:51
ekcs7p sounds good too.00:52
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ekcsok then are we done with this topic for now?00:53
ekcsthanks thinrichs !00:53
ekcs#topic open discussion00:53
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ekcsgo for it if anyone has anything to discuss =)00:54
ekcswho’s going to be there on friday btw? maybe we could do an unofficial outing on friday for those interested. and include some other folks we know/meet too.00:55
aimeeuI may be interested (or I may be in AT&T meetings)00:55
aimeeuMy flight leaves Atlanta at 9 pm00:56
thinrichsI'm not there on Friday.  :(00:56
masahitoI'll be there on Friday.00:56
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ramineni_I'll be there too00:56
ekcsok got it. maybe i’ll look into that and send out an email.00:57
ekcslast three minutes.00:57
ekcsjust wanna say even though we have found a couple more bugs it seems to be fewer than at the same spot in some of the previous releases in my memory. probably both because we limited features and we did a good job of finding & fixing things early.00:59
ekcsgood job everyone =)00:59
thinrichsThanks all!00:59
ekcsalright then. have a great week all and see you next time!01:00
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masahitothank you, all01:00
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ianychoieumel8, morning!06:57
eumel8hey, man!06:58
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ianychoi:) How r u going?06:59
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eumel8good, and you?06:59
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ianychoiYep me too with lots of work.. .but busy means that I am going in a right way06:59
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ianychoi#startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting07:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb  9 07:00:04 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ianychoi. Information about MeetBot at
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ianychoizzxwill, Daisy hello!07:00
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zzxwillHi Ian.07:00
zzxwillHi Daisy.07:00
eumel8hi zzxwill07:00
ianychoiOh jpich hi :)07:01
zzxwillHi eumel8.07:01
DaisyHi, ianychoi, zzxwill, eumel807:01
ianychoiNice :) Then let me start today topics07:01
eumel8Daisy, really there? Can't imagine ;)07:01
Daisyeumel8: yes, real Daisy07:02
eumel8nice to see you, Daisy07:02
ianychoi#topic Translation progress w.r.t. Hard StringFreeze07:02
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ianychoiActually.. so interestingly07:02
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ianychoiI did not know that there have been so long Chinese holidays during Soft & Hard StringFreeze07:02
eumel8holidays are already good :)07:03
ianychoiOn Monday morning, I have just seen that Daisy was getting online and I have heard that there was Chinese new year07:03
ianychoiDaisy, zzxwill sorry for my still lack of your culture.. I heard so long time that Chinese new year is important but I might have forgot it07:04
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zzxwillIt's fine:)07:04
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ianychoiThe link is all the projects which are now related to I18n team's translation plan and priority07:05
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ianychoiAnd this link is what I18n team is more focusing07:05
ianychoiNow there are total 9 out of 12 stable-ocata versions in Zanata07:06
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ianychoiIdeally, I18n team needs to focus to review translated strings in stable-ocata versions.07:07
ianychoiBut.. some projects do not have stable/ocata branch yet so..07:07
ianychoiI have no idea how me carefully notice with detail context07:08
ianychoiBTW, zzxwill how Chinese translation is going?07:08
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ianychoiLast week, I remember that Korean, French, Indonesnan, and Japanese translations are going fine07:09
zzxwillNot good, it's my responsibility for not being devoted much time on Chinese i18n team.07:09
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zzxwillSimplified Chinese ranks 7, which is not good.07:10
ianychoiFor ranking, I think the rank calculation includes release-notes07:10
ianychoiSo I now would like to suggest that:07:11
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ianychoi- More focus on stable-ocata versions in Zanata, for example, horizon:
jftaltaHi !07:11
ianychoijftalta, hi!07:11
ianychoiAlso, translation reviewings would be so important07:12
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ianychoi- Using translation checksite (although it is unofficial) for translation review & translation checksite feedback07:12
ianychoieumel8, I great appreciate this implementation, eumel8 !07:13
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jftaltaso do I :)07:13
ianychoiAnd.. I have heard that Ilya (adiantum) is now ill..07:13
eumel8hi jftalta07:13
jftaltahi eumel807:13
zzxwillDoes translation review count on StackAlytics?  Ianychoi Translator tends not to do reviewing I think.07:14
ianychoiCould someone want to delegate string freeze manager role from now to 2 weeks?07:14
jftaltaill ?...07:14
ianychoijftalta, yep sick.. I briefly talked with him about two days ago07:14
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ianychoizzxwill, currently no translation review metric in Stackalytics but yes. I want to include... but I think I need to think about this implemention in Pike cycle, not current cycle07:15
zzxwillGreat. Thx.07:15
jftaltahi zzxwill07:15
zzxwillHi jftalta.07:15
ianychoiNote that string freeze period is so important in i18n team, and taking care all of things from me would not be a good idea07:16
ianychoiI would like to collaborate with more i18n team members :)07:16
ianychoiAny volunteers for stringfreeze manager?07:16
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ianychoi(Oh silence.. T.T)07:17
jpichMaybe send an email to the list about it for people who can't attend the meeting today, and also describes the tasks involved so it's clear what someone needs to do?07:17
ianychoijpich, right but... only 1-2 weeks are left07:18
ianychoizzxwill, would you take over this role?07:18
jpichI understand :(07:19
jftaltait's true. but nonone said I take the task ...07:19
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ianychoiHmm.. I think  StringFreeze manager does not have numerous work..07:20
jpichIs there a page documenting the work?07:21
eumel8someone else from the Russian Team? I would prefer to send an email to the list and we will find a solution today..07:21
jftaltai agree07:21
ianychoi(I was finding this link.)07:21
jpichGreat, thank you!07:22
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ianychoijpich, np :)07:22
zzxwillI am afraid that I don't have much time for the role, but I will call in Chinese team and I will reply you by tonight at 16:00 PM UTC.07:22
ianychoizzxwill, thanks07:22
ianychoieumel8, yep.. I may write an e-mail in openstack-i18n@lists.openstack.org07:23
ianychoiOkay thanks all :)07:23
ianychoi#link Discussion: Soft & Hard StringFreezes & Release models07:23
ianychoi#topic Discussion: Soft & Hard StringFreezes & Release models07:23
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ianychoiStringFreeze periods are defined in here:07:24
ianychoi#link Release models07:24
ianychoiIn releasenote schedule, Sotft & Hard StringFreeze periods are defined07:25
ianychoiAnd.. AFAIK I18n team has decided translation plans & priorities from now mainly horizon & plugin projects07:25
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jftaltathat's right07:25
ianychoiBut.. recently, I have got to know: 1) Soft & Hard StringFreezes are valid for only cycle-with-milestones release model07:26
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eumel8are there some discussion mailing-lists about changes in the time scheduling?07:26
ianychoiand 2) other release models such as cycle-with-intermediary and cycle-trailing will release around "Final RCs and intermediary releases" or later07:26
ianychoieumel8, no it was not the change07:26
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ianychoiIt was the definition for a long time... as far as i know but me did not recognize..07:27
jpichUp to 2 weeks after the other projects' releases, for cycle-trailing07:27
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ianychoiAnd even.. i18n team might have not recognized07:27
ianychoiBut.. some horizon plugin projects follow other release models such as cycle-with-intermediary and cycle-trailing07:28
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jftaltanot clear for me...07:29
ianychoiSo... my question now is that.. should we take of soft & hard stringfreezes for all the release models?07:29
ianychois/take/take care/07:29
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ianychoijftalta, for example, for horizon project, horizon team developed a lot and the team will create less string changes from Soft StringFreeze07:30
ianychoiAnd.. after hard StringFreeze, much less changes07:30
ianychoiAround Hard StringFreeze, horizon team creates stable branch: e.g., stable/ocata07:30
jftaltaok. So ?...07:30
ianychoiBut.. for example, magnum-ui is different07:31
ianychoiThe release model for magnum-ui is cycle-with-intermediary07:31
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ianychoiAnd one project team with such release model said that they just create stable branch around release date07:31
ianychoiSo I think... considering soft & hard stringfreezes would be limited in cycle-with-milestone releasemodel07:32
jftaltaso we have to deal with the master branch, right ?07:32
ianychoiFor other release models, yep I can take care of the creation of stable-versions07:32
ianychoiBut.. one worry for me is that then I should be busy from soft stringfreeze to hard stringfreeze and even after the releasedate07:33
ianychoiFor PTL, more awareness of soft & hard StringFreeze is fine although it is somewhat busy07:33
ianychoiBut.. taking more time would be so lots of burden to PTL07:34
ianychoiBut.. I do not want to discuss PTL burden....07:34
ianychoiI would like to ask: my proposal would be a good idea or not07:34
ianychoiOr.. some more projects would be considered?07:35
ianychoiFor example, magnum-ui looks nice to end users07:35
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ianychoialso.. horizon-lbaas-dashboard and octavia-dashboard (in future)07:35
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ianychoiIf they look fine and they are so attractive to translators, then talking to release team to also consider Soft & Hard StringFreezes to those releasemodels would be the better way I think.07:36
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ianychoi+ I need to talk with Horizon PTL07:36
robcresswellYou rang?07:36
robcresswellOr did you want r1chardj0n3s :)07:37
ianychoirobcresswell, hello horizon Pike PTL :)07:37
jpichMaybe the i18n liaisons for these projects (with different release models) can take care of announcing soft freeze/hard freeze about their own projects? Are there other ways to help?07:37
ianychoiI think I need to talk with you during Pike PTG for stringfreeze periods for other release models: cycle-with-intermediary and so on07:37
ianychoijpich, yes. I18n has crossproject liaison07:38
robcresswellianychoi: We can discuss at the PTG if you like?07:38
ianychoiAnother possible idea would be that I18n considers translation plan & priority for the projects which have i18n liaison07:38
ianychoirobcresswell, I really would like to discuss with you Thanks a lot07:39
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ianychoiNow I would like to listen to more thoughts and ideas from I18n team.07:39
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ianychoiThis is somewhat complex...07:40
ianychoiAnd I have nothing already decided07:40
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ianychoisuh, hi :)07:41
jftaltayes. i think we have to go on discussing thiis point, on irc, by email,...07:41
ianychoieumel8, jftalta, zzxwill, more thoughts now regarding this topic?07:41
suhhi Ian07:41
jftaltasuh hi07:42
suhhi Jf07:42
ianychoiI just would like to tell as much as possible today and I do not want to decide something for this topic :)07:42
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ianychoieumel8, jftalta, zzxwill, I think you all understood current situation.07:42
ianychoiAnd.. let's more talk via future converations :)07:43
ianychoiThen.. can I move on the next topic?07:44
ianychoiOh katomo hi!07:44
jftaltakatomo, hi07:44
zzxwillHello katomo.07:44
ianychoi#topic TripleO-UI translation07:44
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eumel8ianychoi: I have no idea what's the best, But it's a good idea to talk to the other people and maybe we found a solution after PTG07:45
eumel8hi katomo07:45
ianychoieumel8, yep thanks a lot :)07:45
ianychoiToday, I would like to introduce jpich : She is from tripleo team07:45
katomohello jftalta, zzxwill, eumel807:45
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eumel8hello jpich :)07:46
katomohi jpich07:46
ianychoiShe said that it would be much better for I18n team to also consider tripleo-ui in translation plan & priorities07:46
jpichHi everyone :)07:46
jpichOh, I didn't say that. But since Ocata it is now also available for translating on Zanata, if people want :)07:47
ianychoiIf translators have some interests on tripleo-ui translation, feel free to talk with jpich :)07:47
katomoAFAIK, A few Japanese team members want to translate tripleo-ui.07:47
ianychoijpich, haha I might have over-thought from your talking sorry07:47
jpichkatomo: Yes, Yuko Katabami already translated it :)07:47
ianychoijpich, Korean translation is now 100% :)07:47
katomojpich: exactly07:47
jpichianychoi: I know the team is very busy and it's not as important as Horizon :)07:48
ianychoikatomo, wow.. nice!07:48
ianychoi#topic I18n cross project liaison07:48
jpichWe're a new project so thanks to ianychoi, Yuko-san's translations we're already finding problems with missing strings... We will be working on fixing this!!07:48
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ianychoiI have changed the topic.. since this topic is related with jpich :)07:49
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ianychoijpich, thanks a lot for tagging with i18n.07:49
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jpichNo problems, makes it easier for the team to prioritise too07:50
ianychoiThis is the current list for i18n cross project liaison.07:50
ianychoiWhen I wrote my PTL candidacy for Ocata cycle, I really wanted to vitalize i18n cross project liaison.. but I admit that I have more busy with other things.. such as Zanata upgrade, more taking care of I18n  things, and.. more involvment in docs team for PDF docs implementation07:51
ianychoiFrom this week, I started to contact the existing i18n cross project liaison whether they want to continue this role or not07:52
ianychoiamotoki, happliy said that he will continue horizon liaison (I think a few months ago and also last week)07:52
ianychoiShu Muto, from magnum team, also said that he would happily continue magnum liaison.07:53
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ianychoiFor other liaisons, I could not find them via IRC, but I will contact the PTLs from the teams07:53
eumel8very good07:53
katomonice work07:53
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ianychoiThanks, eumel8 and katomo07:54
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ianychoiAnd.. recently I have been talking a lot with jpich for i18n issues with tripleo-ui07:54
jftaltagreat :)07:54
ianychoiSo I think it would be much better if jpich will be i18n-triple cross project liaison07:54
ianychoiOne thing I am now worried that on the wiki, it says: "The liaison should be a core reviewer for the project and understand i18n status of the project"07:55
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ianychoiUnfortunately, she is not tripleo core, but yesterday, I talked with tripleo PTL and he agree with my proposal.07:55
ianychoiSo. what do you think about "The liaison should be a core reviewer for the project and understand i18n status of the project" statement and jpich's tripleo liaison?07:56
jpichFWIW: TripleO has a dozen components, I am core for some of them but not the UI. Although yesterday we agreed with the PTL and tripleo-ui core teams that I could use my +2 on i18n patches for the UI as needed07:56
ianychoiAnd.. if needed, I will do more call for i18n cross project liaison later :)07:56
jpichMore liaisons \o/07:56
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ianychoiDaisy, "the coreship for i18n crossproject liaison" is essential?07:57
eumel8yes, more liaisons, but it's not so important that must be a core reviewer of the project. understanding of the i18n status is more important.07:58
katomoAlso, if we agree, you can change the statement "should be a core"07:58
katomoeumel8: agree07:59
ianychoikatomo, eumel8 yep.. all agree with this idea?07:59
ianychoi1 min left..07:59
jpichMaybe add "Ideally," at the beginning of the sentence?07:59
ianychoiThree cores agreed07:59
Daisyianychoi: if we can get more liaisons without this cretia, I think it's not that necessary.07:59
ianychoi4 Cores :)07:59
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ianychoijpich, congrats!07:59
jpichThank you! :)07:59
jftaltaDaisy, hi !07:59
Daisyhi, jftalta08:00
ianychoiYep.. let's move on #openstack-i18n channel if we have more things to be discussed08:00
katomohello Daisy08:00
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ianychoiThanks a lot today meeting!08:00
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DaisyThank you, all08:00
jftaltathx, bye08:00
ianychoiI think there will be no next meeting08:00
katomothanks, all08:00
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ianychoiI should finish the meeting within one hour08:00
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gmann#startmeeting qa09:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb  9 09:00:14 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at
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gmannhello, who all here today ?09:00
gmannmasayukig: hi09:00
gmannzhufl: hi, nice to see you in meeting09:01
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gmannlet's wait for few more min to have more people09:01
DavidPurcello/ good morning09:02
gmannDavidPurcell: morning09:02
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gmanndmellado chandankumar ..09:02
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gmanntosky:  hi09:03
gmannblancos:  hi09:03
gmannlet's start as we enough people now09:03
gmann^^ today agenda09:03
chandankumardmellado: gmann \o/09:04
gmannI really want to track ocata cycle items more precisely to avoid missing priority items after good plan09:04
gmannchandankumar:  hi09:04
gmannbut let's do it from next meeting onwards as we have to plan for PTG09:05
gmann#topic PTG09:05
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gmannetherpad link09:05
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gmannwe have lot of ideas which is nice thing09:05
gmannwe still waiting for what all room(with capacity ) we will be allocated09:06
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gmannand depending on that we can plan each sessions09:06
gmannbut i think we should keep dividing the sessions with time slot based on priority09:07
gmanni will check with andreaf how he want to process each sessions.09:07
gmanntime + parallel allocation of sessions09:07
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gmann#action gmann to check with andreaf  about time allocation of PTG sessions09:08
gmannany feedback ideas about sessions discussions in PTG ?09:08
masayukiggmann : yeah, and I think we have some interactive sessions with the other projects09:08
masayukigI think we( andreaf? ) need to coordinate for it.09:08
gmannmasayukig: yea honestly saying i see very challenges in such sessions09:09
gmannnot sure how much people from required projects we will have there09:09
masayukigheh, yea09:09
gmannso we have interactive projects section in each one and let's take those and coordinate with other projects via ML or their PTL etc09:10
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gmann#action andreaf to send notification/request to ask required projects representative from their PTL/Cores in cross project sessions09:11
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gmanni am putting AI for andreaf  but all team is there to help and he can divide the resp in case of overloaded :)09:11
dmelladogmann: o/09:11
gmanndmellado: hi09:11
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gmannhope you all join PTG09:12
gmannzhufl: hope you get the visa things before PTG dates09:12
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dmelladogmann: yep, I'll be there. We couldn't get chandankumar visa in time, sadly09:12
gmanndmellado: thanks09:12
masayukigoh.. :(09:12
dmelladogmann: masayukig09:12
zhuflgmann:me may not:(09:12
dmelladothat said09:13
DavidPurcellI can't, but other AT&T folks will be there :(09:13
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dmelladoI'll be trying to put all things in etherpad/irc09:13
gmannchandankumar: even lot of rejection from my india team but fortunately one member for in a week09:13
dmelladoso he can join online09:13
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dmelladoand hopefully more folks would be able to, too09:13
gmannchandankumar: you applying from channai or delhi ?09:13
gmannDavidPurcell: oh, yea nice to have people09:13
gmannchandankumar: let us know if we can help anything on visa things09:14
gmannanother things if you have any other topic to discus feel free to add on etherpad09:15
* dmellado thought that India nationals could apply to ESTA09:15
dmelladotbh I was quite surprised when I found out all this visa stuff...09:15
gmanndmellado:  yea, its all complicated for me too09:16
gmannzhufl: i added topic of coordinating company owned tests to upstream as you mentioned in mail09:16
gmannand let's try to find the best way to do that09:16
dmelladogmann: I'll try to join that discussion too09:16
zhuflgmann: yes I see it ,thank you:)09:16
gmannwe really encourage people to upstream their tests/ideas09:17
chandankumargmann: i was going through mumbai09:17
gmanndmellado: cool09:17
dmelladothere are quite a few folks working with me who I'm really trying to push upstream09:17
gmannchandankumar: ohk, and they takes time or it is not approved ?09:17
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gmanndmellado: great, that is good news09:17
dmelladogmann: chandankumar told me it'd just take too long to get it done09:17
chandankumargmann: the queue was very long.09:17
dmelladoand internally we were also a li'l bit late09:17
gmannanything else to discuss for PTG ?09:18
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dmelladogmann: I guess also for the PTG09:18
dmelladowe could try to do a bug smash session09:18
gmanntill next meeting at 17UTC we should be ready with all PTG preparation. mainly sessions allocation09:19
gmanndmellado: nice idea, we can try that if we or some people have time09:19
gmannmay be worth to have a group working on that and people can join that09:19
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dmelladothat's what I think too09:20
gmanndmellado: out that idea on etherpad till we just forget after meeting09:20
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* dmellado typing as we speak09:20
gmann#action dmellado to add bug smash sessions on etherpad09:21
gmann#topic Specs Reviews09:21
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gmanni can see new spec on grenade -09:21
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gmanncheck this out if get time09:22
jordanP(o/ Sorry I am late)09:22
gmannjordanP: hi09:22
gmannanyone want to discuss anything specific to current specs09:22
gmannwe should start spec writing for PTG sessions where ever applicable09:23
gmannit will utilize our time in PTG more efficiently09:23
masayukigyeah, good idea09:24
gmanneven etherpad preapration etc can be done as early as possible09:24
jordanPyeah, if the "session owners" could fill the etherpad a much as possible that would be great09:24
gmannjordanP: +109:24
* masayukig nods09:24
jordanPso that we know what we want to achieve09:24
gmannso let's iterate the eptherpad may be next early and start finishing all these TODO for each sessions09:25
gmannsorry guys nework issue09:27
dmelladonp gmann09:27
dmelladocan you go ahead with the meeting? if you can't we can handle it ;)09:27
gmanni will be able to spend more time this weekend as no cricket match for me09:27
gmannlet's move09:27
gmann#topic Tempest09:28
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zhuflcan we come to an agreement on when to use Nova's security group and when to use Neutron's security group in testcases?09:28
zhuflIn ScenarioTest, create_server uses Neutron's security group, while _create_security_group uses Nova's, that will cause trouble09:28
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gmannzhufl: neutron one always for new tests09:28
zhuflnew tests?09:29
gmannzhufl: we have deprecated security group and all kind of proxy in Nova09:29
dmelladoyeah, nova one is really legacy09:29
jordanPyeah, new tests should use Neutron API for security grouos09:29
jordanPold tests should be kept as is09:29
gmannzhufl: we do not want to completely remove from existing tests as those are deprecated not removed yet09:29
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gmanneven for image volume things also new tests should use direct API not nova proxy09:30
zhufloh, and if neutron's security group is not enabled?09:30
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zhuflif neutron's security group ext is not enabled09:30
gmannzhufl: it means skip the tests as cloud is what with no sec group09:30
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gmannand on gate we make sure we have those enabled09:31
jordanPyeah, probably skip the tests09:31
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zhuflok, I see. that will be simple then09:31
gmannbut test should have logic to skip if required extension is not there09:31
gmannso that tempest can be able to run on a type of cloud09:31
dmelladoyep, that should be dealt with a skip decorator09:32
zhufland shall we change using Nova' security group to using Neutron's in old testtests?09:32
gmannyea or in skip method if it depends on all tests in that class09:32
zhuflI see09:33
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gmannthese are open reviews in tempest ^^09:33
gmannkeep the good work as we are doing and keeping review frequency in good pace09:33
gmannanything on tempest side before moving to bug things09:34
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jordanPnope from me09:35
gmannok let's move then09:35
gmannBug Triage.09:35
masayukig#topic Bug Triage09:36
gmannseems like andreaf had this week09:36
gmannmasayukig: thanks09:36
masayukiggmann : but it doesn't work.. :-o09:36
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gmann#topic Bug Triage09:37
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gmannseems like we have 4 new bugs09:37
gmannll check those09:37
gmannchandankumar: seems you have next week one ?09:37
gmannthe last rotation for Ocata09:38
gmannand we will try to make  NEW as 0 before we release Ocata09:38
gmannmasayukig:  whats the deal with this -
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gmanni feel we should start a bug dashbaord like other team.09:39
gmannwhat you guys thinks ?09:39
masayukiggmann : bug dashboard?09:40
dmelladoI think it'd be a nice addition09:40
dmelladoon top of openstack-helath, of course ;)09:40
gmannmasayukig:  like review dashboard kindda09:40
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dmelladobtw, masayukig if you get the time at the PTG I'd like to talk with you about some possible enhancements :D09:40
jordanPwhat's a bug dashboard ?09:41
gmanndmellado: not o-h, i was thinking which tells us weekly progress and critical bugs and imp one very clearly09:41
jordanPa link ?09:41
dmelladogmann: could you post an example of an existing one?09:41
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gmannlet me check09:41
masayukiglike this ?09:41
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jordanPwe are at the bottom of the page already09:42
gmannthis is graph one, i was talking about other one09:43
gmannbut ll take time to have example link09:43
gmanni will search and let you all know later09:43
dmelladogmann: maybe we can follow up on this on the m-l?09:43
gmann#action gmann to check and ask bug dashboard feedback in team09:44
gmann#topic DevStack + Grenade09:44
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gmannanything on devstack and grenade ?09:44
gmannseems nothing09:44
gmann#topic openstack-health09:44
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gmannmasayukig:  please go ahead09:44
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masayukigthe angular1.6 issue was resolved, so,09:45
jordanPI asked myself yesterday 'when was the last devstack failure I faced on my laptop ?' And i can't remember, devstack is way more stable than 2 years ago09:45
masayukigthe gate is now healthy :)09:45
masayukigjordanP : yeah09:45
gmannjordanP: cool.09:45
gmannmasayukig: thanks for fixing and making gate good09:46
gmannmasayukig: we have session on o-h feedback for PTG ?09:46
gmanni forgot if we have in list on etherpad09:46
masayukiggmann : heh, I did nothing, though. ah, yeah,09:46
masayukiggmann : looks good to me09:46
gmannmay be quick sessions will be good to see what extra people expect from o-h09:47
dmelladojordanP: on devstack I guess there's more issue on the plugins than on the main devstack09:47
dmelladoI had an issue while using devstack + manila + sahara09:47
dmelladobut only if I had the two plugins09:47
jordanPerf, yeah, I can imagine09:47
gmanndmellado: plugins never be perfect :)09:47
gmannwe know tempest one also09:47
gmannok, anything else masayukig  ?09:48
masayukignope, thanks :)09:48
* gmann reminds 12 min left09:48
gmannmasayukig: thanks09:48
gmann#topic Patrole09:48
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gmannDavidPurcell: your turn..09:48
gmannanything you want to discuss or highlight on Patrole09:49
DavidPurcellI'm actually handing the reins to blancos.  I'm moving to a less active role in Patrole and she's taking over :)09:49
gmannblancos: thanks09:49
gmanni will also start reviewing those as in Nova we are discussing about providing more roles on policy side09:50
blancosGlad to help contribute :)09:50
gmannso that operator need not to have their own written roles09:50
gmannand that will be good to tests in Patrole09:50
DavidPurcellYou can use Patrole with default roles or custom ones.09:51
* dmellado needs to leave early today, looking forward to meeting you guys soon!09:51
gmanndmellado: thanks see u soon09:52
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gmannI really want to add HA project status here for fast progress09:52
gmannand think many people on production testing  want that09:52
jordanPHA is hard to test..09:53
gmannyea, but let's see how much we can failure scenario we can cover09:53
jordanPmany people are testing that, good for them, if they want to start a new project upstream, good. But not in Tempest09:53
gmannyea that we already decided not in tempest and new project got go ahead in barcelona09:53
gmannbut seems not much  progress after that09:54
gmannok let's move as 5 min left09:54
gmann#topic Critical Reviews09:54
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gmannany critical imp review from anyone09:54
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gmannok let's move on open discussion09:55
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gmann#topic Open Discussion09:55
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gmannanything else people want to discuss09:56
jlibosvahi! o/ I'd like to raise awareness of this bug
openstackLaunchpad bug 1592345 in tempest "Import of tempest.test has side-effect that config is parsed" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to chandan kumar (chkumar246)09:56
jordanPI was happy to have 2 strong candidates for the PTL position09:56
jordanPlong time, valuable contributors09:56
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gmannjordanP: :) thanks09:56
gmannjlibosva: sure i will check tomorrow for sure09:56
masayukigjordanP : +++++++++09:56
jlibosvabasically it seems that importing tempest module parses CLI arguments and it blocks development of some in-tree tempest tests in Neutorn09:57
DavidPurcelljordanP: agreed!09:57
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jlibosvagmann: thanks! it's been there for a while09:57
gmannjlibosva: this seems confirmed ? any thing to discuss on this ?09:57
jlibosvagmann: I just wanted to raise it here as it seems to lack attention :)09:58
jlibosvadiscussion can happen on the launchpad I guess09:58
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gmannjlibosva: i see, ll check tomorrow and reply accordingly if anything needed otherwise push patch09:58
jlibosvagmann: thanks09:59
gmannwe have 2 min left...09:59
jordanPjlibosva, I've just commented on the bug report09:59
gmannlet's meet at Atlanta and all have safe flight.09:59
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jordanPyep, see you there09:59
gmannthanks all10:00
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chandankumarthanks gmann for chairing the meeting10:00
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gmannchandankumar: np!10:01
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johnthetubaguy#startmeeting nova14:00
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb  9 14:00:37 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnthetubaguy. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'nova'14:00
macszHello :)14:00
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johnthetubaguyhello everyone14:01
johnthetubaguyI am your guest meeting chair for today14:01
BobBallHello John.14:01
johnthetubaguyluckily for me our fearless leader has already done all the hard work and written out an agenda14:01
johnthetubaguyso lets go for it14:01
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johnthetubaguy#topic Release News14:01
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johnthetubaguy#link Ocata release schedule:
johnthetubaguy#link Current RC2 TODOs:
johnthetubaguy#info RC2 is due next Thursday 2/1614:01
johnthetubaguyso usual drill, lots of time triaging bugs14:02
johnthetubaguylets find the nasty ones14:02
johnthetubaguyplacement and cells are causing some packaging "fun" and have uncovered a few things already14:02
johnthetubaguythe etherpad should let you know how things are going14:02
edleafeyay fun!14:02
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johnthetubaguyso their testing appears to be working, good news!14:03
johnthetubaguyany questions for folks about the process here?14:03
johnthetubaguytake it steady approving patches that will make backports hard, till Ocata is out the door, ideally at least14:03
johnthetubaguy#topic Bugs14:04
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johnthetubaguy#link ocata-rc-potential bugs:
johnthetubaguy#help please make good use of the ocata-rc-potential tag for nasty things you spot14:04
johnthetubaguylooks like the list is a bit small, if I am honest14:05
johnthetubaguywhich suggests either no one is testing it, we fixed everything already, or no one is looking at untriaged bugs, or a bit of all of those14:05
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johnthetubaguy#link check queue gate status
johnthetubaguy#link 3rd party CI status
johnthetubaguyanything folks wanted to cover?14:06
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johnthetubaguy#topic Reminders14:06
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johnthetubaguyso its that time, yes master is now pike14:06
efriedDoes that mean master branch -2s come off?14:06
johnthetubaguy#help please note your spec and/or blueprint needs re-approving for pike14:07
johnthetubaguyefried: so once its re-approved, you can ask for the -2 to get lifted14:07
johnthetubaguyso for context, basically we review blueprints to see if we happened to be crazy when we last approved them14:08
johnthetubaguyor if we have learnt more about the system since we last approved them14:08
johnthetubaguythats a thing more often than you would maybe expect14:08
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johnthetubaguy#topic Stable branch status14:09
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johnthetubaguyso, hows that all looking?14:09
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johnthetubaguywe are likely to cut a new one soon14:09
johnthetubaguyso its a good time to help tidy the queue14:09
johnthetubaguylyarwood seems to be doing a good job in there, but (looks in mirror) seems like some other folks could do to take a peak in there too14:10
johnthetubaguy#help don't forget about the stable branches, they look busy14:10
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johnthetubaguyless busy over there14:11
johnthetubaguy#topic Subteam highlights14:11
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johnthetubaguyso now is the time for me to stop typing I think14:11
johnthetubaguyCells v2 (dansmith) - no meeting this week, working on RC214:11
johnthetubaguyedleafe ?14:11
edleafeNo pressing reviews now that RC1 was out14:11
edleafeDiscussed approaches to cleaning up excessive calls to placement14:11
edleafeDecided that we really need a full suite of functional tests to ensure that we don't introduce regressions while optimizing14:11
edleafecdent and edleafe to start drawing up a list of such tests for the next meeting14:11
edleafeWe also need to set sane goals for Pike. bauzas, macsz, and diga to start that process.14:11
edleafethat's it14:12
johnthetubaguythere was no live-migration meeting14:12
johnthetubaguybut I know there are some RC2 possible bugs on that etherpad14:12
johnthetubaguyOISC test team are doing some benchmarking14:12
johnthetubaguyturns out if you run loads of live-migrates, some of them fall over for no good reason14:13
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johnthetubaguyso I put some fixes up for that14:13
johnthetubaguyalex_xu: ?14:13
johnthetubaguywe spoke a lot about pike goals14:13
alex_xuwe talk about Pike plan14:13
johnthetubaguyturns out keystone has a policy meeting14:14
alex_xuthe capabilities API and policy improvement are the things people interesting14:14
johnthetubaguyI ended up going to that, and pulled in sdague with some of his ideas14:14
johnthetubaguyNotification (gibi) - no meeting this week14:14
gibieverything is calm14:14
johnthetubaguymoshele: hows things in SR-IOV / PCI land14:14
johnthetubaguyI guess he is not here14:14
johnthetubaguy#topic PTG Planning14:15
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johnthetubaguy#link Pike PTG planning:
johnthetubaguy#info The PTG agenda will be shaped up next week.14:15
johnthetubaguynow is a good time to submit your ideas14:15
johnthetubaguylast week was a better time I guess, but hey, thats in the past14:15
johnthetubaguyI see now stuck reviews, so...14:16
johnthetubaguy#topic Open discussion14:16
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johnthetubaguynot loads of us here, but anyone got anything?14:16
* edleafe has nuthin'14:17
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johnthetubaguybest let you all get back to making RC2 more awesome than RC114:18
johnthetubaguythanks all14:18
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kevinbenton#startmeeting neutron_drivers22:03
openstackMeeting started Thu Feb  9 22:03:08 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is kevinbenton. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.22:03
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers'22:03
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kevinbentonarmax, ihrachys: anything critical to the release we need to talk about first?22:03
armaxanything would be in here22:04
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armaxthere’s the PTG to talk about as well22:05
kevinbentonok, both of the critcals on there have patches in flight22:05
kevinbentonyeah, PTG is something I want to talk about next22:05
ihrachysbut we can't land them, at least first one22:05
kevinbentonihrachys: why not?22:05
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ihrachysgate failures, I have no details what specifically fails22:05
ihrachysbut it's a string of rechecks in gerrit basically22:06
kevinbentoni thought you meant something other than the recheck grind22:06
ihrachysnah, 'just' that thing22:06
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kevinbentonjust the massive instability of the gate22:06
armaxit looks like the worker tweaks I made only helped so much22:07
kevinbentonOther than that, how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?22:07
kevinbentonso shall we talk about the PTG now?22:08
ihrachyssure, why not. though I see we three are the only participants :-x22:08
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kevinbenton#topic PTG22:09
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kevinbentonwe basically don't have scheduled meetings this time, right?22:09
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ihrachyswe don't, but I believe it's still better to have a time table with main topics22:09
armaxkevinbenton: do you know there’s an openstack-ptg channel?22:10
kevinbentonarmax: no22:10
armaxnow you do22:10
kevinbentonarmax: do we feed it the etherpad and it schedules it all for us?22:10
armaxonly cool kids hang in there22:10
armaxI don’t think that’s what irc channels do22:11
kevinbentonwhat is the purpose of it?22:11
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kevinbentonis it for PTG participants, organizers or what?22:11
ihrachys"Discussion of the Project Teams Gathering and for use during the PTG for on-site announcements"22:11
ihrachysyou are welcome22:11
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kevinbentonihrachys: you had an etherpad you started of the grouped topics, right?22:13
kevinbentonihrachys: do you want to put that here and talk about it?22:13
armaxas an attendee of the PTG I would expect some organization of the PTG days22:13
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armaxdo we know the room layout?22:13
ihrachysdespite the name, it's not final22:13
armaxwhether we have separate tables etc?22:14
ihrachysand people are welcome to help setting it up, and ripping it off22:14
armaxthat’s a start22:14
ihrachysyes, it needs love, and it does not cover logistics22:14
kevinbentonarmax: i'm not sure about the room layout. Should I ping Thierry to get that?22:15
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armaxprobably not necessary, I am sure there will be tables22:15
armaxthe layout can be made up on the fly if need be22:16
armaxthough we don’t want to mess up with extension cords etc22:16
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kevinbentonwell tables might be problematic if we want everyone to listen in22:17
armaxon this one22:17
armaxwe lost the list of attendees22:18
ihrachysI feel there is some leg work for kevinbenton to do. once we know the layout and setting, we can look if we e.g. can afford split discussions. now, we can talk about what's in the pad.22:18
kevinbentoni think ihrachys disinvited them22:18
armaxand a link to the free format thingy22:18
ihrachysarmax: not necessarily lost, it's in the prev version22:18
ihrachysI just haven't moved it22:18
kevinbentonyeah, there are some of these that probably don't need everyone to pile on22:18
armaxthere’s roughly 40 people signed up22:19
ihrachysand kevinbenton may need to do another swipe through the old pad to make sure we captured all latest updates22:19
kevinbentonwe can schedule those concurrently with special projects meetups22:19
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kevinbentonyeah, i will carry stuff over22:19
armaxI wonder how big are the rooms22:19
kevinbentoni'll wait until early next week to give a little more time22:19
armaxand whether we’ll be able to fit all in the same place22:19
kevinbentoni know a few people just found out about the etherpad and were going to add a few points22:19
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ihrachysarmax: what's the free format thingy?22:20
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ihrachysog you mean back-ref to the old pad?22:20
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kevinbentonarmax: you are planning on bailing Friday right?22:20
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armaxI am out by lunch time22:21
armaxgive or take22:21
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armaxbut I am no longer the start of the room so that doesn’t matter :(22:21
kevinbentonarmax: ok22:21
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kevinbentonarmax: but you will need to be there for stadium discussions22:22
armaxI won’t be landing in ATL until Monday morning22:22
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armaxso I might skip some of the early morning session22:22
kevinbentonarmax: to explain what the stadium is, etc. :)22:22
armaxkevinbenton: totally22:22
armaxI thought we were going to undo everything I did, no?22:22
armaxnew PTL, new regime22:22
kevinbentonkind of hard to undo nothing :)22:23
kevinbentonmonday and tuesday are cross-projectish22:23
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kevinbentonshould we try to sit down with nova folks then?22:23
clarkbI am told rooms are "hollow square" or "board room" with extra chairs for perimeter if needed. All rooms have tables22:24
armaxclarkb: thanks, I wonder about capacity22:24
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armaxclarkb: do you happen to know?22:24
kevinbentonwe can have a repeat of vancouver :)22:25
kevinbentonpack 60 people into a room for 2022:25
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clarkbthe shared reservable projector rooms are fishbowl style and are the exception apparently22:25
kevinbentonclarkb: who has those ones?22:26
clarkbkevinbenton: they are shared and reservable in 30 minute chunks by any group. ttx sent email today wiht link to ethercalc page to do that22:26
kevinbentonclarkb: ah, cool22:26
kevinbentonso maybe we can make use of a couple of those for things like stadium discussion22:27
clarkbI am told neutron room is set for 52 with 10 extra chairs. "huge salon"22:27
kevinbentonthat sounds like it would probably be big enough22:27
ihrachyswhich may mean hard to split?22:27
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kevinbentonis there anything else PTG related22:31
armaxnone from me22:31
ihrachyslike topics covered? are we set on the list? anything missing? redundant?22:31
kevinbentoni will go over the list early next week and check for any new entries from the other one22:32
kevinbentonand we can finalize it next drivers meeting22:32
armaxprobably worth sending another email reminder to give people one more chance to chime in one more time22:32
armaxsame for the postmortem22:32
kevinbentoni'm going to add some comments for things i want clarification on22:32
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ihrachysok, sounds fine22:32
kevinbentonok, i'll send out an email for each after the meeting22:33
kevinbentonDo we want to move onto some RFE reviews?22:34
kevinbentonor just wait until after PTG?22:34
armaxI have not had the chance to scan the list22:35
armaxbut there was something interesting that captured my attention yesterday22:35
armaxand bug 165868222:36
openstackbug 1658682 in neutron "port-security can't be disabled if security groups are not enabled" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
armaxthe former is about something nonsensical we had in our code for ages22:36
armaxthe other is about a config knob that alters API behavior22:36
armaxboth should be looked at, IMO22:36
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armaxand tangential one is bug 163328022:37
openstackbug 1633280 in neutron "[RFE]need a way to disable anti-spoofing rules and yet keep security groups" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
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kevinbentonone at a time! :)22:38
kevinbentonso i just read that one22:38
kevinbentonarmax: when you say "lets fix it"22:39
kevinbentonarmax: do you mean change the API definition?22:39
kevinbentonarmax: or fix the plugins to support it?22:39
armaxI guess changing the API would be non-bw compat22:39
armaxbut right now rejecting the request is the same thing22:39
armaxcan’t recall if allow_put=False returns 400 or forbidden22:40
armaxkevinbenton: either, or22:40
kevinbentonright, we might end up with a different error code22:40
armaxkeeping the raise function, and furthermore have it in neutron-lib seems the wrong thing to do22:40
kevinbentonmaybe we should just fix the plugins...22:41
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kevinbentonfor ML2 it's not that unreasonable i don't think22:41
kevinbentonnow that we have the segments plugin22:42
kevinbentonit's effectively a segment delete and create22:42
armaxkevinbenton: actually it’s the same error code22:42
armaxdifferent message though22:42
armaxI am ok either way22:43
kevinbentonbut I think we should move away from it22:43
kevinbentoni agree it shouldn't be in neutron-lib22:43
armaxI am simply opposed to kick the can down the road22:43
kevinbentonwe shouldn't encourage skipping a feature22:43
ihrachysagreed on neutron-lib change being incorrect either way; as for the solution, ideally we would make it work without api change, but realistically, we could as well squeeze that small change into the map; and leave it up for an RFE to allow updates, at which point we would flip allow_put back.22:44
kevinbentonihrachys: but why put that in the API def?22:44
kevinbentonihrachys: a plugin could work with it now22:44
armaxI think boden was simply moving code around to avoid dependency on neutron import22:45
ihrachysif we think there can be a plugin that supports it, yeah, then it makes sense to just implement the damned thing22:45
kevinbentonyeah, i would rather push that way22:46
kevinbentonfile a bug saying ML2 is broken because it raises :)22:46
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armaxit’s not just ml222:46
kevinbentonbug 165868222:46
openstackbug 1658682 in neutron "port-security can't be disabled if security groups are not enabled" [Wishlist,Confirmed]
kevinbentonarmax: i know, but if ml2 goes that way, we can encourage others to follow22:46
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kevinbentonarmax: so it sounds like there is some validation that needs to be fixed here22:48
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kevinbentonat a minimum22:49
armaxright, but if we had no way to disable security groups from a config point of view22:49
armaxthe bug would go away, wouldn’t it?22:49
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kevinbentonyeah, but that kills a use case from what i can see22:50
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kevinbentonthey don't want filtering by default22:50
kevinbentoninbound to instances22:50
armaxby having port_security = False and no security groups on the port that should do it , no?22:51
kevinbentonmaybe we need to take the configurable default security groups horse back out for a beating22:51
kevinbentonno, they want the protection from port security by default22:51
kevinbentonwith no security groups22:51
armaxthen have —no-security-groups and port-security=True22:51
kevinbentonand then to disable port security "on a few ports"22:51
kevinbentonwhat is --no-security-groups?22:52
kevinbentonon every port create22:52
armaxthat’s the CLI option22:52
kevinbentonbut that requires user behavior change22:52
armaxto clear secgroups22:52
armaxas it is that’s not great,22:53
armaxwe probably need to turn the config option into API driver behavior? dunno22:53
kevinbentonbasically it's operator configurable security groups22:53
armaxbut personally I don’t like that22:53
kevinbentonwith one option, "allow all"22:53
kevinbentonanyway, i think this validation should go away anyway "Cannot disable port security or ip address until security group is removed"22:54
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ihrachyslet the horse (configurable default groups) die in peace, it's not going to run, it's a breach in cloud compatibility.22:55
kevinbentonyeah, i think we will just need to leave this config option and fix port security validation22:56
kevinbentonto work in this case22:56
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trevormchi all, sorry to interrupt, I added an rfe this week bug 1662650 I'm just making sure I'm following the rfe process. Next step is "neutron-drivers team acknowledges the bug" ?22:57
openstackbug 1662650 in neutron "[RFE] Accelerating SR-IOV with DPDK" [Undecided,New]
ihrachysindeed that should be easier to sell than option deprecation22:57
armaxso you don’t want to kill the config option or not?22:57
kevinbentonarmax: i'm not sure we can22:57
armaxI am not sure I understood what you want to do22:57
kevinbentontrevormc: yep, you did. we're missing a chunk of the drivers team and the PTG is around the corner so we aren't talking about new RFE's this week22:58
kevinbentonarmax: leave the config option alone22:58
trevormcok thx22:58
kevinbentonarmax: fix the validation logic to allow port security to be shut off22:58
armaxI disagree, but ok22:59
ihrachys1 min22:59
kevinbentonwell they don't want security groups API in their cloud22:59
kevinbentonwe could deprecate i suppose23:00
kevinbentonbut that will be a battle23:00
ihrachyskevinbenton: do we allow other apis to be selected for ml2 like that?23:00
kevinbentontalk more outside23:00
kevinbentonihrachys: unfortunately. it's upsetting23:00
ihrachysanyway, it's not necessarily discussion for the bug23:00
armaxthat’s not why the knob was introduced though23:00
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