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| ekcs | time for congress meeting masahito ramineni_ thinrichs | 00:00 |
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| ekcs | #starmeeting congressteammeeting | 00:00 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs: hi | 00:00 |
| ekcs | hi ramineni_ ! | 00:01 |
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| ekcs | hi all. as usual, topics are kept here. feel free to add & comment. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 00:01 |
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| thinrichs | Hi all! | 00:03 |
| ekcs | hi thinrichs ! | 00:03 |
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| thinrichs | Did the startmeeting work? Looks like it was misspelled | 00:03 |
| ekcs | oops. | 00:03 |
| ekcs | thanks | 00:03 |
| ekcs | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 00:04 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 25 00:04:07 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:04 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:04 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'congressteammeeting' | 00:04 |
| ekcs | : hi all. as usual, topics are kept here. feel free to add & comment. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 00:04 |
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| masahito | hi all. sorry, late the meeting. | 00:06 |
| ekcs | np! hi masahito | 00:06 |
| ekcs | topics at usual place. I don’t have many special topics for today. https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 00:06 |
| ekcs | let’s get started then. | 00:06 |
| ekcs | #topic pike-2 | 00:06 |
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| ekcs | pike-2 is due the week of June 05. | 00:07 |
| ekcs | anything we’re hoping to merge before then? | 00:08 |
| ekcs | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/congress | 00:08 |
| ekcs | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/congress-dashboard | 00:08 |
| ekcs | we’re expecting to do the first congress-dashboard release. | 00:08 |
| ekcs | https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/python-congressclient | 00:09 |
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| ekcs | We can probably merge all the open patches in there right now. | 00:10 |
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| thinrichs | All the patches in dashboard and client? | 00:13 |
| thinrichs | +1 that those look ready | 00:13 |
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| thinrichs | Just saw this patch about java. Do we still use java somewhere? | 00:15 |
| thinrichs | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467622/1/devstack/plugin.sh | 00:15 |
| patchbot | patch 467622 - congress - Extend devstack support to Red Hat-based distros | 00:15 |
| thinrichs | I think that was a holdover from when the Python code was generated after install by java | 00:15 |
| thinrichs | Or do we need it somewhere else? | 00:15 |
| ekcs | hmmm a litte complicated. I think standalone install still uses java. but devstack install doesn’t. we should probably unify that. | 00:16 |
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| thinrichs | What's java for? | 00:16 |
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| ekcs | and when we unify, we should probably use java in both cases to generate the parsing code from grammar, because the packaging folks won’t package generated code. | 00:17 |
| ekcs | correction. I think I took java out of the standalone install too. | 00:18 |
| thinrichs | I see, so we can't just check in generated code since packaging doesn't like it. (Though how do they know?) | 00:19 |
| ekcs | but at some point we will likely put it back in and do generation. to work well with packaging. | 00:19 |
| ekcs | we can delay acting on this particular patch though. | 00:19 |
| thinrichs | Makes sense. Then yeah, all the recent patches in dashboard, client, congress look ready | 00:19 |
| ekcs | the way I envision doing it is to checkin generated code, but make it clear to packagers they can delete that code in packaging. and make sure everything still works (will re-generate) without the generated code included. | 00:20 |
| ekcs | and they know because they pay attention to this stuff =) | 00:20 |
| ekcs | debian packager especially. | 00:21 |
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| ekcs | also one thing to note for pike-2, ramineni_ ’s been hard at work setting things up for congress-dashboard project, and we’ve merged the patch that switches devstack to use the dashboard project for horizon. | 00:21 |
| thinrichs | Was just curious if they kept up to date with the project, or whether there were tools that helped, or something else. | 00:21 |
| ekcs | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/453474/ | 00:22 |
| patchbot | patch 453474 - congress - Update devstack plugin to use new repo (MERGED) | 00:22 |
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| ekcs | So be aware of that if you’re doing any devstack-based testing going forward. | 00:22 |
| ekcs | I really only know one particular case, and in that case it seems it’s a matter of looking carefully at the code each time it’s packaged. | 00:23 |
| ekcs | anything else about pike-2? | 00:23 |
| thinrichs | Not from me | 00:24 |
| ramineni_ | no | 00:25 |
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| ekcs | ok let’s move on then. | 00:26 |
| masahito | nothing from my side | 00:26 |
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| ekcs | #topic policy library | 00:26 |
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| ekcs | Thanks for all the comments on this spec. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457880/ | 00:26 |
| patchbot | patch 457880 - congress-specs - policy library spec | 00:26 |
| ekcs | Thanks for all the commetns and reviews. | 00:27 |
| ekcs | any more thoughts on the spec? | 00:27 |
| ekcs | I wanted to have organized tasks on launchpad earlier, but I expect to have it this week and I’ll let people know on ML when it’s there. | 00:28 |
| thinrichs | One thought, just looking at comments. | 00:28 |
| thinrichs | The re-initializing the empty library with the policy files seems good. | 00:29 |
| thinrichs | Maybe use a command-line flag to control it? Or is that already the plan? | 00:29 |
| ekcs | Not mentioned right now. How do you see that being used? | 00:30 |
| ekcs | a command line flag to say load or a command line flag to say don’t load? | 00:31 |
| thinrichs | Not sure about the partiy. | 00:31 |
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| thinrichs | parity | 00:31 |
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| ekcs | hmm ok. what’s the case where you think the control is desired? | 00:31 |
| thinrichs | I've got an empty library and want to keep it that way. | 00:32 |
| ekcs | only case I can think of is when someone explicitly wants an empty library. | 00:32 |
| thinrichs | But maybe that's silly, now that I think about it. | 00:32 |
| thinrichs | If you don't want the library, then set up the authz policy so people can't use those APIs. | 00:32 |
| thinrichs | The fact that they're in the DB shouldn't matter. | 00:32 |
| thinrichs | Nevermind. | 00:32 |
| thinrichs | Rest looks good. | 00:33 |
| thinrichs | We're all happy delaying the template features til this gets done? | 00:33 |
| thinrichs | ramineni? | 00:34 |
| ekcs | ramineni_ instead. | 00:34 |
| ramineni_ | Yes .. sounds good | 00:35 |
| ekcs | ok then. let’s go ahead and merge it then =) | 00:37 |
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| ekcs | anything else to discuss now on policy lib? | 00:37 |
| thinrichs | ekcs: you want the honors? | 00:38 |
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| ekcs | haha sure. | 00:38 |
| ekcs | i’ll do it after meeting. | 00:38 |
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| ekcs | I’m excited about getting this feature done. we may not get through all parts of the spec, but I think we can at the very least get the deploying policy from library part done, prioritized above the library policy CRUD. | 00:39 |
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| ekcs | well let’s move on then. | 00:39 |
| thinrichs | It'd be cool to start making some good progress on that! | 00:40 |
| ekcs | definitely. | 00:40 |
| ekcs | #topic open discussion | 00:40 |
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| ekcs | I don’t have any other special topics. anything else on our minds? updates or thoughts or questions? | 00:40 |
| ekcs | does anyone have experience wsgi appifying the API code? | 00:42 |
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| ekcs | I’ve been doing some digging and asking. and basically we need to wrap the API server code in something like this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457283/4/nova/api/openstack/compute/wsgi.py | 00:43 |
| patchbot | patch 457283 - nova - Register osapi_compute when nova-api is wsgi (MERGED) | 00:43 |
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| ramineni_ | Do we want to get the details updated in https://www.openstack.org/software/project-navigator | 00:47 |
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| ramineni_ | For congress | 00:47 |
| ekcs | Which parts? | 00:49 |
| ekcs | I need to assert stable policy tag. | 00:49 |
| ekcs | That one we are ready to assert. | 00:49 |
| ekcs | so they don’t show the ones we don’t satisfy any more. | 00:50 |
| ramineni_ | Project intro is also missing for congress I guess | 00:50 |
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| ekcs | Oh I see. Hard to tell what’s supposed to be there. | 00:52 |
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| ramineni_ | Under About this project | 00:52 |
| ekcs | I can look into how to update that. or do you already know? | 00:52 |
| ramineni_ | No idea | 00:53 |
| ekcs | Ok I’ll look into that. thanks for bringing it up! | 00:54 |
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| ekcs | oh something else I’m working on is sketching out a policy monitoring UI on a service like this to share with everyone so we can collaborate on the design. | 00:55 |
| ekcs | https://mockflow.com | 00:56 |
| ekcs | People will need to sign-in though unfortunately. I’m open to alternatives if people have any suggestions =) | 00:56 |
| ekcs | anything else we want to talk about? or should we end? | 00:57 |
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| thinrichs | Nothing from me. | 00:59 |
| ekcs | alright then. well time about up anyway. more next time! have a great week(end) | 00:59 |
| thinrichs | Thanks all! | 01:00 |
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| masahito | thanks all. bye | 01:00 |
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| ekcs | bye all | 01:00 |
| ekcs | #endmeeting | 01:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 25 01:00:25 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-05-25-00.04.html | 01:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-05-25-00.04.txt | 01:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-05-25-00.04.log.html | 01:00 |
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| wanghao | hi everyone | 02:00 |
| zhenguo | #startmeeting mogan | 02:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 25 02:00:39 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhenguo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 02:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 02:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mogan' | 02:00 |
| zhenguo | wanghao, shaohe_feng: o/ | 02:00 |
| wanghao | hi | 02:01 |
| zhangyang | o/ | 02:01 |
| zhenguo | zhangyang: o/ | 02:01 |
| zhenguo | anybody else here? luyao, Xinran, litao__ | 02:01 |
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| wanghao | litao is a little busy now.. :) | 02:02 |
| zhenguo | ok | 02:02 |
| zhenguo | liusheng is on vacation now | 02:02 |
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| zhenguo | as always, the agenda: | 02:02 |
| zhenguo | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Mogan#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 02:02 |
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| zhenguo | let's jump in | 02:03 |
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| zhenguo | #topic announcements and reminders | 02:03 |
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| zhenguo | it's really a wonderful team gathering during the Suzhou bug smash :D | 02:03 |
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| zhenguo | thanks everyone | 02:03 |
| luyao | o/ | 02:03 |
| zhenguo | luyao: o/ | 02:04 |
| Xinran | o/ | 02:04 |
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| zhenguo | Xinran: o/ | 02:04 |
| zhenguo | we had a nice demo show there, and made a discussion about the desired features from every involved company | 02:04 |
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| zhenguo | a short mid cycle :D | 02:05 |
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| zhenguo | thanks everyone for joning | 02:05 |
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| wanghao | that's a good and comfortable meeting :) | 02:07 |
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| zhenguo | ok, that's the bug smah | 02:08 |
| zhenguo | another thins is for big tent | 02:08 |
| zhenguo | as we aims to be a offical project, so I collected some principles here | 02:08 |
| zhenguo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mogan | 02:08 |
| zhenguo | hi guys, are you still around? seems only me typing... | 02:08 |
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| wanghao | I'm here | 02:08 |
| wanghao | could you see me ? | 02:08 |
| zhenguo | hah, sure | 02:08 |
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| zhenguo | before we go though the list, I would like to leave some time for everybody to review it :D | 02:10 |
| wanghao | done | 02:11 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: HI | 02:11 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: o/ | 02:12 |
| wanghao | do we have cross project folks? | 02:12 |
| zhenguo | please feel free to leave comments there with your name, so we can discuss | 02:12 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: not sure | 02:13 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: but seems it's not a must | 02:13 |
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| wanghao | zhenguo: great | 02:13 |
| zhenguo | we can go through the list one by one | 02:14 |
| zhenguo | first, the big problem of us, is reviews :( | 02:14 |
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| zhenguo | There is just one person doing reviews, need to change that and make sure there are reviews from more people and more companies | 02:14 |
| litao__ | I am coming | 02:15 |
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| wanghao | In mogan or mogan-spec? I remeber to review some patches... | 02:15 |
| wanghao | maybe so few.... | 02:16 |
| zhenguo | litao__: o/ | 02:16 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: yes, we should do more | 02:17 |
| zhenguo | and I will not directly merge patches from now on | 02:17 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: yes | 02:17 |
| zhenguo | to ensure patches got enough reviews, I will ping you all | 02:17 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: you have mentioned there's a review guid. | 02:18 |
| zhenguo | maybe we should have a list to ping, who wants to review should be added | 02:18 |
| litao__ | I think we should also need more bug report | 02:18 |
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| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: the link? | 02:18 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: let me find | 02:18 |
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| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: It will be helpful, expecially for the fresh. | 02:18 |
| zhenguo | litao__: yes, we should follow the community policies | 02:18 |
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| zhenguo | #link https://docs.openstack.org/contributor-guide/docs-review-guidelines.html | 02:19 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng ^^ | 02:19 |
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| shaohe_feng | great. Xinran, luyao ^^ it is helpful. | 02:20 |
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| wanghao | like a review team | 02:20 |
| luyao | hah , :D | 02:21 |
| litao__ | great | 02:21 |
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| zhenguo | and a patch must got a +2 then another +2+A to land | 02:21 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: recently not? | 02:22 |
| zhenguo | litao__: yes, I just +A it directly :( | 02:22 |
| zhenguo | sorry, it's my faults | 02:23 |
| litao__ | lol | 02:23 |
| zhenguo | we should focus more on reviews, | 02:23 |
| zhenguo | new features development can be slow down a bit | 02:23 |
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| zhenguo | and, we need more core reviewers :D | 02:24 |
| shaohe_feng | +1 | 02:24 |
| shaohe_feng | we should be active to do review. | 02:25 |
| * litao__ yes, we should need more +2 | 02:25 | |
| zhenguo | yes, and I think our cores should keep 2-3 reviews everyday, or even more | 02:26 |
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| shaohe_feng | let's do it. | 02:26 |
| zhenguo | but need to make sure we have enough patches to review, lol | 02:26 |
| shaohe_feng | ha | 02:27 |
| litao__ | so we should find more bugs | 02:27 |
| zhenguo | yes, more bugs can be find only if more people play with mogan | 02:28 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: all our bugs filed in the launchpad link? | 02:28 |
| zhenguo | we just set up a physical env, please ping me if you need help for this | 02:28 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: yes | 02:28 |
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| wanghao | zhenguo: really, we need env | 02:29 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: hah | 02:29 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: great, that's easy for others join us, fresh can pick bugs from the link | 02:29 |
| litao__ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/mogan | 02:29 |
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| litao__ | currently not much | 02:30 |
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| zhenguo | litao__: yes, we can force a bug link for every patch | 02:30 |
| zhenguo | you can -1 patch without bug link... | 02:30 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: great | 02:31 |
| zhenguo | and another thing is tests | 02:31 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: a big problem to find bugs, no special tester for mogan | 02:31 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: yes, | 02:31 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: yes, and the bug link should be in the commit message. | 02:32 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: sure | 02:32 |
| zhenguo | and you can also -1 patch without tests | 02:32 |
| zhenguo | currently our tests coverage is very low | 02:32 |
| zhenguo | our UT coverage is only 58% | 02:32 |
| zhenguo | and functional only covers a few API calls | 02:33 |
| zhenguo | there are only two test case in tempest, one is create flavor, the other is create server | 02:33 |
| shaohe_feng | need more. | 02:34 |
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| shaohe_feng | so add a task item(add more tasks) in our task list | 02:35 |
| litao__ | hah | 02:35 |
| zhenguo | liusheng is absent, so I help him to pick up tempest and functional tests | 02:35 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: sounds good | 02:35 |
| zhenguo | unit test maybe need we all to enrich | 02:35 |
| zhenguo | as we got a coverage gate, it's easy to find every file's tests coverage and do it | 02:36 |
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| zhenguo | like this http://logs.openstack.org/94/466694/4/check/mogan-coverage-ubuntu-xenial-nv/0f58f0b/cover/ | 02:36 |
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| wanghao | emm, so report a bug to add more ut tests. | 02:37 |
| wanghao | do it again and again | 02:37 |
| zhenguo | seems reasonable to have a bug | 02:37 |
| zhenguo | hah | 02:37 |
| wanghao | yes | 02:37 |
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| litao__ | wanghao: This sounds great | 02:38 |
| zhenguo | I just added a owner to every task on the etherpad | 02:39 |
| zhenguo | please add you name as well, if you are interested in the task | 02:40 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: does our wiki introuce some test guid? | 02:40 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: no | 02:40 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: we only got some larger view of the project there | 02:41 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: details things maybe need a separated wiki page, wdyt? | 02:41 |
| shaohe_feng | good/ | 02:41 |
| wanghao | I add a task for tests in our task list | 02:44 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: thanks | 02:44 |
| wanghao | owner is all, priority is high | 02:44 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: lol | 02:44 |
| wanghao | so everyone can feel free to add the tests you want. | 02:44 |
| litao__ | wanghao: need a bug report | 02:45 |
| wanghao | yes | 02:45 |
| zhenguo | yes, tests can keep our quality, | 02:45 |
| shaohe_feng | wanghao: great. | 02:45 |
| zhenguo | another thing is the email traffic, when you search mogan there's only a few mails in the list :( | 02:46 |
| zhenguo | please don't be shy to send us to public | 02:46 |
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| zhenguo | ok, seems that's all | 02:48 |
| zhenguo | anyting else here? | 02:48 |
| zhenguo | if not, let's move on | 02:48 |
| shaohe_feng | let disucss more things via email | 02:49 |
| zhenguo | #topic task tracking | 02:49 |
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| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: sure | 02:49 |
| zhenguo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mogan-task | 02:49 |
| zhenguo | I would like to prioritize the raid task | 02:50 |
| zhenguo | which is one of the gap that the community has recognized between Nova and Ironic | 02:50 |
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| zhenguo | wanghao: seems we don't need to send out all task status list there | 02:52 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: we can prioritize the list and make a new list which we want to land before Pike release | 02:53 |
| shaohe_feng | most mongan potential users expect this feature. | 02:53 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: yes | 02:53 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: maybe we can prepare a template, and start to send task statsus mail after next meeing, wdyt? | 02:54 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: same as you said, we can review it frist. | 02:54 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: ok, thanks | 02:54 |
| shaohe_feng | good | 02:55 |
| wanghao | np | 02:55 |
| zhenguo | oh, seems it's almost time | 02:55 |
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| zhenguo | we can go though the new task list next week | 02:56 |
| litao__ | yeah | 02:56 |
| zhenguo | ok, let's move on to next topic | 02:56 |
| zhenguo | #topic open discussion | 02:56 |
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| zhenguo | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/465792/ | 02:57 |
| patchbot | patch 465792 - nova - WIP: Bulk query floating IPs in _nw_info_get_ips | 02:57 |
| zhenguo | not sure if there's some one want to pick up this task for mogan | 02:57 |
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| zhenguo | as we copied that code out of nova :D | 02:58 |
| wanghao | :) | 02:58 |
| wanghao | report a bug and let's see which guy want it. | 02:58 |
| zhenguo | yes, sure, | 02:58 |
| zhenguo | ok, really a nice meeting | 02:59 |
| zhenguo | anything else want to be discussed? | 02:59 |
| zhenguo | if not, we can end the meeing | 03:00 |
| zhenguo | thanks all for joining | 03:00 |
| zhenguo | #endmeeting | 03:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 03:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 25 03:00:33 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2017/mogan.2017-05-25-02.00.html | 03:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2017/mogan.2017-05-25-02.00.txt | 03:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2017/mogan.2017-05-25-02.00.log.html | 03:00 |
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| wanghao | zhenguo: do we need Bulk query floating IPs ? Seems we didn't need it now. | 03:08 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: I checked the code and couldn't find where we need this change. | 03:09 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: now we're using _sage_get_floating_ips to list the float ips from Neutron. | 03:09 |
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| zhenguo | wanghao: let me check | 03:14 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: sure, and sorry to send messages in here, let's talk about it in Mogan channel. | 03:16 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: hah | 03:16 |
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| jftalta | Hi I18N guys !... | 13:04 |
| jpich | Hello, hello | 13:05 |
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| jftalta | jpich: hi | 13:05 |
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| ianychoi | jpich, jftalta hi | 13:12 |
| jpich | o/ | 13:13 |
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| ianychoi | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 13:13 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 25 13:13:33 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ianychoi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:13 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:13 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 13:13 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 13:13 |
| ianychoi | jpich, jftalta: sorry for late | 13:13 |
| jpich | No problems :) | 13:14 |
| ianychoi | How are you going? :) | 13:14 |
| jpich | All good here! Yourself? | 13:15 |
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| jftalta | ianychoi: Hi ! does not matter, don't worry ;) | 13:15 |
| asettle | o/ | 13:15 |
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| ianychoi | asettle, wow hello! | 13:15 |
| jftalta | asettle : hi | 13:16 |
| asettle | Yellow yellow! | 13:16 |
| ianychoi | #topic Glossary management | 13:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Glossary management (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 13:16 | |
| ianychoi | jftalta: How do you think about http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-i18n/2017-May/002924.html ? | 13:17 |
| ianychoi | Currently, there is no response from Turkish language coordinator | 13:17 |
| jftalta | inaychoi: give me a sec... | 13:17 |
| ianychoi | And one Turkish translator wants to upload such glossary\ | 13:17 |
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| ianychoi | I originally thought that publizing the announcement would be good | 13:18 |
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| jpich | +1 | 13:18 |
| jftalta | +1 | 13:18 |
| ianychoi | I don't know how to deal with the review | 13:20 |
| ianychoi | Just +2 & Workflow? | 13:20 |
| jpich | It's only been a couple of days, it might be ok to give a bit more time for feedback? | 13:22 |
| ianychoi | jpich, +1 :) | 13:22 |
| jftalta | jpich: I agree | 13:22 |
| ianychoi | jpich, jftalta: thanks a lot for the opinion | 13:22 |
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| jpich | :) | 13:23 |
| ianychoi | #topic Horizon: translation percentage criteria for translate checksite | 13:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Horizon: translation percentage criteria for translate checksite (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 13:24 | |
| robcresswell | o/ | 13:24 |
| ianychoi | robcresswell, hi! | 13:25 |
| jftalta | robcresswell: hi | 13:25 |
| jpich | o/ | 13:25 |
| ianychoi | robcresswell, I am finding the bug link we discussed previously... | 13:25 |
| robcresswell | \link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+bug/1690233 | 13:26 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1690233 in openstack i18n "A couple of django-js.po files are missing from Horizon tree" [High,Confirmed] | 13:26 |
| ianychoi | robcresswell, thanks :) | 13:27 |
| ianychoi | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+bug/1690233 | 13:27 |
| robcresswell | Sorry ,I meant to do #, but Macbooks are stupid and change my keyboard all the time. | 13:27 |
| ianychoi | robcresswell, I don't object to it but the problem is now I don't have enought time to revise the infra script... | 13:27 |
| ianychoi | robcresswell, fine :) (Me also uses macbook... stupid) | 13:27 |
| robcresswell | All we need to do is delete one line from it | 13:27 |
| robcresswell | or more. Maybe a few lines to delete :) | 13:28 |
| robcresswell | IMO :) | 13:28 |
| ianychoi | robcresswell, can I ask which line? | 13:28 |
| jftalta | what's the current topic ?... | 13:29 |
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| robcresswell | jftalta: Look at the bug above ^^ | 13:29 |
| robcresswell | Basically, there is some issues with the infra scripts not pulling down files with certain % of translation | 13:30 |
| robcresswell | But it has a bug, and so I'm in favour of just removing all detection and just using whatever translations are available | 13:30 |
| robcresswell | and leave it up to the operator to decide what languages to use or not | 13:31 |
| ianychoi | robcresswell, I am okay for such direction :) But... might it need to revise infra-scripts? Or not? | 13:31 |
| jftalta | Ah, thx, ok. Sorry, I did not understand the topic title :( | 13:32 |
| jpich | As in, remove all checks - so even if only one sentence is translated for the language, the translation file would get pulled in? | 13:32 |
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| robcresswell | jpich: Effectively, yes | 13:33 |
| robcresswell | Either that, or we make the infra scripts smarter | 13:33 |
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| robcresswell | The thing is, right now, its got some pretty big bug that means in some situations a large number of translated strings dont get pulled down. | 13:33 |
| jpich | I remember issues where we'd pull po files for languages that had only one unreviewed translation for a less common language, which looked more like someone playing with/learning about Zanata than something worthwhile for users. I guess the "veto"/check can be done when writing up the language list application side | 13:35 |
| ianychoi | robcresswell, for me one concern is: in Horizon there is also releasenotes.po and there might be Horizon developer documentation po files in future. One idea might be to exclude po files: releasenotes.po and the other idea might be to specify Horizon po file names: e.g., django.po, djangojs.po, and so on | 13:35 |
| jpich | (...unless the language list is generated automatically I guess) | 13:36 |
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| robcresswell | jpich: Its automatic now, so that may be problematic. You can filter it by specifying langs in settings though. | 13:36 |
| robcresswell | Maybe we need to make the infra script smarter | 13:36 |
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| jpich | It doesn't seem super fair to push onto the operator the responsibility of figuring translation status for each language yeah... | 13:37 |
| ianychoi | robcresswell, I agree with you. Let's discuss later :) | 13:38 |
| jpich | I understand the infra script stuff is complicated though!! /me still has a couple of related unresolved bugs | 13:38 |
| ianychoi | #topic Impact on Docs team governance and recent changes | 13:38 |
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| ianychoi | Sorry I need to be away for a while.. 10 minutes. asettle: would you explain briefly some background of this topic? | 13:38 |
| asettle | Uhh | 13:39 |
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| asettle | You mean the email threads? | 13:39 |
| asettle | ianychoi: ^ | 13:39 |
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| ianychoi | asettle, yep :) | 13:39 |
| asettle | Okay | 13:39 |
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| asettle | So, some of you might have seen my emails to the ML or not | 13:39 |
| ianychoi | asettle, they were not shared to openstack-i18n mailing list so plz explain :) | 13:40 |
| asettle | But docs is looking at changing the direction of things, and pushing the responsibility of writing documentation back out to the project repos | 13:40 |
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| asettle | I will forward the email I sent to the docs ML to the I18N ML now | 13:40 |
| jftalta | :) | 13:41 |
| asettle | You can see the email I sent out to the dev ML here | 13:41 |
| asettle | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/117162.html | 13:41 |
| jftalta | ok, thx | 13:41 |
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| asettle | We're discussing *how* we're going to do this | 13:41 |
| asettle | Here is the why | 13:41 |
| asettle | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/117053.html | 13:41 |
| asettle | Whihc i will fowward to the ML now | 13:41 |
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| asettle | Okay, just did that | 13:42 |
| asettle | There's going to be some changes, but the way I understand it this hsouldn't change the way things are translated | 13:42 |
| asettle | However, there are some guides we will consider EOLing in the future if there is no movement or contributions to them | 13:42 |
| asettle | Such as the Architecture or HA guide | 13:42 |
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| asettle | I'm not too sure what else to add there, we're just sort of waiting for the decisions to be made by the community to move on | 13:43 |
| asettle | We'll work on the planning in Pike, for execution in Queens | 13:43 |
| asettle | I will not be the PTL, so this will be up to the community | 13:43 |
| asettle | Anyway, questions? :) | 13:43 |
| jftalta | need a couple of minutes to read these emails... | 13:44 |
| asettle | No worries, it's a lot at once | 13:44 |
| asettle | Sorry about that jftalta | 13:44 |
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| jftalta | "As we all know, we are rapidly losing key contributors and core reviewers" :-( | 13:46 |
| asettle | Yeah, sadly :( | 13:46 |
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| asettle | But it also isn't really a shock | 13:46 |
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| ianychoi | asettle, thanks a lot for the explanation! | 13:52 |
| asettle | \o/ | 13:52 |
| ianychoi | asettle, actually translation support on install tutorials is what we discussed on the last ptg. Now i want to modify this goal - i wanna defer it to Queens | 13:54 |
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| asettle | Makes sense :) | 13:54 |
| ianychoi | asettle, I think install guides part might be distributed to multiple repos by some further directions - it is still in discussion afaik. So supporting distributed docs sources should be considered in I18n team. | 13:55 |
| asettle | It's a lot of work for you guys, but it's no different to us :( might be worth discussing with infra how we can potentially managed impact on I18N | 13:56 |
| ianychoi | asettle, +1 :) | 13:56 |
| ianychoi | jftalta, jpich: question - https://docs.openstack.org/project-install-guide/ocata/ landing page also needs to be translated? | 13:57 |
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| jftalta | ianychoi, yes it does, imo | 13:58 |
| jpich | I'm not familiar with the project but if the content is translated, it'd probably be good to get the landing page too | 13:59 |
| ianychoi | asettle, if i18n team wants to translate https://docs.openstack.org/project-install-guide/ocata/ page then it needs to be managed by git | 13:59 |
| ianychoi | asettle, that's another one I want to discuss with u | 13:59 |
| asettle | ianychoi: sure - send me an email :) i'm happy to go through things with you | 14:00 |
| ianychoi | asettle, robcresswell, jftalta, jpich : thanks a lot for today coming! | 14:00 |
| asettle | Thanks :D | 14:00 |
| ianychoi | asettle, yep! | 14:00 |
| jftalta | :-) | 14:00 |
| jpich | Thanks! :) | 14:00 |
| ianychoi | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 25 14:00:39 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-05-25-13.13.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-05-25-13.13.txt | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-05-25-13.13.log.html | 14:00 |
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| andreaf | #startmeeting qa | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 25 17:00:05 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is andreaf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 17:00 |
| andreaf | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_May_25th_2017_.281700_UTC.29 Today's agenda | 17:00 |
| andreaf | Hello, who's here for the meeting today? | 17:00 |
| blancos | o/ | 17:00 |
| mtreinish | o/ | 17:01 |
| prateek | o/ | 17:01 |
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| felipemonteiro | o/ | 17:01 |
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| andreaf | oomichi and chandakumar cannot make the meeting today | 17:02 |
| andreaf | ok let's start | 17:02 |
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| andreaf | So first on the agenda, I wanted to welcome zhufl to tempest-core! | 17:03 |
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| mtreinish | heh, it's a bit late in china... | 17:06 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: did you drop? | 17:09 |
| andreaf | Also I sent an email proposing to move the 9:00 UTC meeting to 8:00 UTC, which is probably not very relevant for folks in this meeting today | 17:10 |
| andreaf | but please let me know if you have any opinion about the proposed changed | 17:10 |
| andreaf | change | 17:10 |
| andreaf | #topic Previous Meeting Action review | 17:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Previous Meeting Action review (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:10 | |
| andreaf | Actions from last week where for me to send an email to the ML about the proposed change in the meeting schedule, which I did | 17:10 |
| andreaf | and one for blancos / felipemonteiro to update the spec for patrole to a patrole folder, which was also done | 17:10 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461140/ | 17:10 |
| patchbot | patch 461140 - qa-specs - RBAC testing multiple policies | 17:10 |
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| andreaf | #topic PTG | 17:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:10 | |
| andreaf | About PTG, it may be a bit early but the format for next PTG is being defined, so if you have ideas / opinions about how it should be structured now it's the time to speak :) | 17:10 |
| andreaf | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/117369.html ML thread by thierry | 17:10 |
| andreaf | The idea for QA is that day1 and 2 we will have a help room where we will take turns to be there and help people with questions / issues on QA topics | 17:10 |
| andreaf | who's not in the help room can roam around in the WG rooms in parallel | 17:10 |
| andreaf | day 3,4,5 we can have QA sessions and time to hack on something | 17:10 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: indeed probably 3am or so | 17:10 |
| andreaf | ping | 17:10 |
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| * andreaf gets out of the hammock and looks for better wifi signal :P | 17:10 | |
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| andreaf | Any comment on the PTG? | 17:11 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: it's an interesting idea. We'll see how it turns out | 17:12 |
| andreaf | yes it's hard to say in advance - but I think it's interesting for a lot of us to be in WG sessions - so if we can rotate in the help room hopefully it will work | 17:13 |
| andreaf | ok moving on | 17:13 |
| andreaf | #topic Gate stability | 17:13 |
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| andreaf | the gate was broken shortly because of an issue in oslo.i18n, but it's now back online and it looks stable enough | 17:14 |
| andreaf | #link https://goo.gl/ptPgEw | 17:15 |
| clarkb | our classification rate is 2% for gate failures | 17:15 |
| andreaf | clarkb: heh I'll have to check the exact numbers :) | 17:16 |
| mtreinish | clarkb: yeah not many people are pushing e-r queries | 17:16 |
| andreaf | clarkb: oh I got it know e-r classification rate | 17:17 |
| mtreinish | granted are failure rate is much lower than it has been for a while so keeping the classification percentage up is harder | 17:17 |
| clarkb | that said I think things are relatively stable, its just that the issues we do have we aren't catching/tracking well | 17:17 |
| mtreinish | but 2% is not good, we're basically catching nothing | 17:17 |
| mtreinish | whcih probably means well get bit before too long | 17:17 |
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| andreaf | clarkb, mtreinish: I've not hit failures recently - I wonder if we should setup a kind of rota, like for bug triage? | 17:18 |
| andreaf | clarkb, mtreinish: a weekly task to keep an eye on unclassified failures? | 17:19 |
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| andreaf | I can setup a calendar for that and send a message to the ML - if we get volunteers I'm more than happy to help them getting started | 17:20 |
| andreaf | you're silence tells me that either by bouncer is failing again or you don't believe this will help :P | 17:21 |
| andreaf | but I'm going to give it a try ;) | 17:21 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: it's worth a try I guess. I just know in the past people seem confused by the process of getting a bug out of a gate failure and then opening an e-r query | 17:22 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: yes but perhaps if we offer mentoring it will help | 17:23 |
| andreaf | mtreinish, clarkb: do you have a recorded session about troubleshooting the gate? | 17:24 |
| andreaf | I could add the link | 17:24 |
| clarkb | mtreinish: and mriedem have one somewhere iirc | 17:24 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa67J6yMYZ0 | 17:24 |
| andreaf | thanks | 17:24 |
| andreaf | #action andreaf send an email about classification rota and mentoring | 17:25 |
| andreaf | Also about gate stability, I proposed enabling ssh validation by default on master in devstack | 17:25 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/458678/ devstack patch | 17:25 |
| patchbot | patch 458678 - openstack-dev/devstack - Enable ssh validation by default | 17:26 |
| mriedem | look at those young hunks | 17:26 |
| mriedem | so full of hope | 17:26 |
| andreaf | I'd like more opinions on that | 17:26 |
| mtreinish | heh, the first thing that stood out to me was how much more hair I had back then | 17:26 |
| andreaf | heh that was Vancouver | 17:26 |
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| andreaf | anything else on gate stability? | 17:28 |
| andreaf | #topic Spec reviews | 17:28 |
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| andreaf | There are a few outstanding specs - I did not have time to read them yet | 17:29 |
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| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 17:30 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/173334/ | 17:30 |
| patchbot | patch 173334 - qa-specs - Add bp tempest-resources | 17:30 |
| mtreinish | that is one back from the dead :) | 17:30 |
| andreaf | heh - oomichi took it over some time ago but then we had other priorities | 17:31 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: there was no comment / complaint in that area in the user feedback session at the summit, but maybe the right audience for that was missing... | 17:32 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: at the moment that's a a bit low in my list of priorities since we have limited bw and a few urgent things we need to close around stable interfaces | 17:32 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: yeah I'm not sure that was the right audience, it was kind of a quiet session | 17:33 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/349730 is a bit dead in the water, since we decided to make the current test.py stable | 17:34 |
| patchbot | patch 349730 - qa-specs - Add bp tempest-stable-fixtures | 17:34 |
| andreaf | so I should probably abandon that | 17:35 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443504/ HA testing could use some reviews | 17:36 |
| patchbot | patch 443504 - qa-specs - Added spec for high availability testing | 17:36 |
| andreaf | if we can create common tools for non functional type of testing it's a win for everyone | 17:36 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461140/ also needs reviews, I already mentioned this one | 17:37 |
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| patchbot | patch 461140 - qa-specs - RBAC testing multiple policies | 17:37 |
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| andreaf | anything else on specs? | 17:38 |
| andreaf | #topic Tempest | 17:38 |
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| andreaf | Anything to discuss on Tempest? | 17:39 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: are we still spewing deprecation warnings on normal tempest runs? | 17:39 |
| mtreinish | or did all the fixes merge | 17:39 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: I think they all merged (3 of them) | 17:39 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466344/ | 17:39 |
| patchbot | patch 466344 - tempest - Add option for whether the cloud supports floating... | 17:39 |
| mtreinish | that fixes my complaint from the feedback session | 17:40 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: ok, we should be more careful in the future | 17:40 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: but i haven't check if there is any deprecation warning left | 17:40 |
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| mtreinish | deprecation warnings are to signal users, and we shouldn't emit them as part of normal operation | 17:40 |
| mtreinish | unless its because of a config or cli flag or some other user choice | 17:40 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish: heh good point - otherwise people will get into the habit of ignoring them | 17:41 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish: I'm halfway through the review of your patch - it looks good to me so far | 17:41 |
| andreaf | chandakumar has been working on a sanity check for tempest plugins | 17:42 |
| andreaf | the idea is to have a job that takes any known plugin and one by one it tries to install it, run tempest init and tempest run -l | 17:42 |
| andreaf | we will maintain a blacklist of known broken plugins | 17:43 |
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| andreaf | it's not guarantee that those will work 100% but at least they will not break other plugins at install/ list time | 17:43 |
| andreaf | and this helps us knowing which plugins are kind of dead and which are actually in use | 17:44 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: ok, but why is that a tempest job? | 17:44 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: because it helps us when doing changes to tempest to see if we break something | 17:45 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: since plugins use non stable interfaces | 17:45 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: except the vast majority of those failures will be caused by setup issues in the plugins | 17:46 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: the discovery bit should detect broken imports | 17:46 |
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| mtreinish | ok, so we're adding a job to tempest to catch broken imports in other projects? | 17:47 |
| mtreinish | still seems out of place to me | 17:47 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: yes because we may break those import by changing things in tempest | 17:47 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: if we had all stable interface ready earlier we would not need this | 17:48 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: but I think it's fair to try and keep an eye out for plugins that depend on tempest unstable interfaces | 17:48 |
| felipemonteiro | i can't get patrole to work in py35-backed environment due to import error, although I can't re-create the issue locally with devstack USE_PYTHON3=True, still investigating | 17:48 |
| mtreinish | felipemonteiro: that sounds like more of a py3 incompatibility | 17:48 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: at least as long as we finish the work on stable interfaces | 17:49 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: I still think we're just inviting a bunch of random failures into the gate | 17:49 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: it's not going to be a voting job | 17:49 |
| mtreinish | but as long as it's not voting (I'm a hard -2 on making it voting) all we're doing is throwing away a node | 17:49 |
| mtreinish | felipemonteiro: do you have a link to logs? I can take a look | 17:49 |
| felipemonteiro | #link http://logs.openstack.org/17/465717/22/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-patrole-py35-member-ubuntu-xenial-nv/cb7cc13/console.html | 17:50 |
| felipemonteiro | and thanks :) | 17:50 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: I don't think it's thrown away - we're finding issues in the plugins which also helps us in turn to write better docs on how to write them | 17:50 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish: my guess is that after the job becomes stable and we have enough stable interfaces we can just remove it | 17:51 |
| andreaf | ok there are 9min left | 17:51 |
| andreaf | #topic Patrole | 17:53 |
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| andreaf | felipemonteiro, blancos: anything on patrole other than the issue above ^^^ | 17:53 |
| andreaf | ? | 17:53 |
| felipemonteiro | yeah release notes for 0.1.0 release | 17:53 |
| felipemonteiro | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464072/ | 17:54 |
| patchbot | patch 464072 - patrole - Prepare release notes for release 0.1.0 | 17:54 |
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| felipemonteiro | so we can then move forward with https://review.openstack.org/#/c/463578/ | 17:54 |
| patchbot | patch 463578 - releases - Release Patrole 0.1.0 | 17:54 |
| andreaf | felipemonteiro: heh sorry I didn't manage to look at that yet I will do later today | 17:55 |
| felipemonteiro | that's it from me...then once we get that in we can start removing some deprecated tests that tempest has already | 17:56 |
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| andreaf | felipemonteiro: +A | 17:56 |
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| andreaf | #topic Critical reviews | 17:57 |
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| andreaf | any other review that needs attention? | 17:57 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/467366 | 17:57 |
| patchbot | patch 467366 - openstack-dev/devstack - Add a function to get an available random port | 17:57 |
| mtreinish | #link https://review.openstack.org/459451 | 17:58 |
| patchbot | patch 459451 - openstack-dev/devstack - Use uwsgi for glance-api | 17:58 |
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| andreaf | #topic Open Discussion | 17:58 |
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| felipemonteiro | yes, i have a question regarding patrole gating | 17:59 |
| andreaf | go ahead | 17:59 |
| felipemonteiro | in other services, i'd like to know what your/qa cores thoughts are? | 18:00 |
| felipemonteiro | time's up though | 18:00 |
| andreaf | perhaps in qa room | 18:00 |
| andreaf | it's time | 18:00 |
| andreaf | #endmeeting-qa | 18:00 |
| andreaf | #endmeeting qa | 18:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 25 18:00:23 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-05-25-17.00.html | 18:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-05-25-17.00.txt | 18:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-05-25-17.00.log.html | 18:00 |
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| mriedem | #startmeeting nova | 21:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 25 21:00:05 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:00 |
| edleafe | \o | 21:00 |
| dansmith | gurgle | 21:00 |
| dtp | o/ | 21:00 |
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| efried | o/ | 21:01 |
| takashin | o/ | 21:01 |
| mriedem | alright let's do this | 21:01 |
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| mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 21:01 |
| mriedem | #topic release news | 21:01 |
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| mriedem | #link Pike release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Pike_Release_Schedule | 21:01 |
| mriedem | #info Next upcoming milestone: Jun 8: p-2 milestone (2 weeks) | 21:01 |
| mriedem | #info Blueprints: 72 targeted, 67 approved, 12 completed, 6 not started | 21:02 |
| mriedem | we have a few single-patch small blueprints which are pretty close to done | 21:02 |
| mriedem | #info Blueprints which are blocked, not started or do not have an owner after the p-2 milestone will likely be deferred to Queens. | 21:02 |
| mriedem | sometime soon i plan on starting an etherpad to gauge status on everything | 21:03 |
| efried | mriedem service-tokens may be tight | 21:03 |
| efried | Cause it's waiting on a glanceclient release | 21:03 |
| mriedem | efried: if the glanceclient code is merged, you can request the release | 21:03 |
| mriedem | as long as the PTL signs off | 21:03 |
| efried | Yeah, they're gonna cut it next Wednesday. | 21:03 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:03 |
| mriedem | well FF is p-3 | 21:03 |
| mriedem | so this isn't FF | 21:03 |
| efried | oh, sorry, you said not started or no owner. | 21:04 |
| mriedem | but after p-2 i'm going to start culling things a bit | 21:04 |
| efried | Ignore me. | 21:04 |
| mriedem | np | 21:04 |
| mriedem | any questions on release things? | 21:04 |
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| mriedem | #topic bugs | 21:04 |
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| mriedem | nothing marked critical | 21:04 |
| mriedem | #help Need help with bug triage; there are 104 (up 13) new untriaged bugs as of today | 21:04 |
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| mriedem | up 13 from the last meeting that is | 21:05 |
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| mriedem | could be a fun friday activity | 21:05 |
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| mriedem | gate status - nothing really to report | 21:05 |
| mriedem | same for 3rd party ci | 21:05 |
| mriedem | questions about bugs? | 21:05 |
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| mriedem | #topic reminders | 21:05 |
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| mriedem | #link Pike Review Priorities etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-nova-priorities-tracking | 21:06 |
| mriedem | also, if you led a forum session but haven't done a recap of it in the ML yet, it'd be nice to do that, | 21:06 |
| mriedem | but i think the big ones i was looking for have been recapped | 21:06 |
| edleafe | ugh, I need to update that for scheduler | 21:06 |
| mriedem | and some i still need to read | 21:06 |
| mriedem | #topic stable branch status | 21:06 |
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| mriedem | #link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z | 21:07 |
| mriedem | #info Expect a new Ocata release soon for some high-severity fixes for cells v2. | 21:07 |
| mriedem | #link stable/newton: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/newton,n,z | 21:07 |
| mriedem | #help Need to get https://review.openstack.org/#/c/466808/ and below merged for a stable/newton release which will contain some high-severity fixes for cells v2. | 21:07 |
| patchbot | patch 466808 - nova (stable/newton) - Handle special characters in database connection U... | 21:07 |
| mriedem | ^ has a +2 on it | 21:07 |
| mriedem | needs just one more stable core... | 21:07 |
| mriedem | if only there were one more stable core around... | 21:08 |
| efried | stable in what sense? | 21:08 |
| dtp | non volatile | 21:08 |
| melwitt | haha | 21:08 |
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| mriedem | questions about stable branch stuff? | 21:08 |
| mriedem | #topic subteam highlights | 21:08 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: cells v2? | 21:09 |
| dansmith | we had a meeting, I was perfectly punctual as usual | 21:09 |
| dansmith | we talked about open reviews, which yielded reviews on mriedem's set | 21:09 |
| dansmith | and the above patch's bug, etc | 21:09 |
| dansmith | I think that's it? | 21:09 |
| mriedem | and melwitt is updating the bottom quotas change | 21:10 |
| dansmith | and devstack multicell is passing | 21:10 |
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| mriedem | yeah | 21:10 |
| mriedem | alright moving on | 21:10 |
| mriedem | edleafe: scheduler things | 21:10 |
| edleafe | I missed the scheduler meeting - traveling back from PyCon. As a result, the discussion was much more civil than usual. | 21:11 |
| edleafe | Most of the meeting was discussion regarding how to handle "alternates" provided by the scheduler | 21:11 |
| edleafe | The concern was the flow of that information in a cells V2 world. | 21:11 |
| edleafe | that's it | 21:11 |
| mriedem | plus some ML fun | 21:11 |
| mriedem | sdague: did you want to cover api meeting highlights? | 21:11 |
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| mriedem | if not i can | 21:11 |
| mriedem | ...and will | 21:12 |
| mriedem | mostly talked about https://bugs.launchpad.net/nova/+bug/1693168 | 21:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1693168 in OpenStack Compute (nova) "Different APIs 'os-quota-class-sets' Response between v2 and v2.1" [Medium,In progress] - Assigned to Ghanshyam Mann (ghanshyammann) | 21:12 |
| mriedem | so yay we regressed os-quota-class-sets in v2.1 | 21:12 |
| mriedem | we weren't returning server groups or server groups members limits in that api's response, since v2.1, ever | 21:12 |
| mriedem | b/c it was toggled via extension in v2.0 | 21:12 |
| mriedem | and i guess was just missed, | 21:12 |
| mriedem | so, | 21:12 |
| mriedem | gmann and alex_xu are working on microversioning that back in, and gmann is documenting the API with the limitation in the api-ref, since it was never documented before | 21:13 |
| mriedem | it's possible to workaround it using os-quota-sets | 21:13 |
| mriedem | but that was most of the meeting | 21:13 |
| mriedem | there was no notifications meeting as gibi is still vacationing | 21:13 |
| mriedem | cinder meeting was today | 21:14 |
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| mriedem | jgriffith and stvnoyes have done an attach with the new flow | 21:14 |
| mriedem | but we still need reviews on the old flow starting with 3 changes with +2s here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/456896/ | 21:14 |
| patchbot | patch 456896 - nova - Add Cinder v3 detach call to _terminate_volume_con... | 21:14 |
| mriedem | so i'm going to start harassing cores | 21:15 |
| mriedem | #topic stuck reviews | 21:15 |
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| mriedem | nothing on the agenda | 21:15 |
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| mriedem | anything anyone needs to mention here? | 21:15 |
| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 21:15 |
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| mriedem | one thing | 21:15 |
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| mriedem | #link sdague has a spec to support global request ID in nova: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468066/ | 21:16 |
| patchbot | patch 468066 - nova-specs - oslo.middleware request_id spec | 21:16 |
| mriedem | i'm +2 on it | 21:16 |
| mriedem | it's a small change, | 21:16 |
| mriedem | and need another specs core to review that one, so jaypipes or dansmith at this hour most likely | 21:16 |
| dansmith | man you're so needy | 21:16 |
| mriedem | sorry | 21:16 |
| mriedem | anyway that's it unless anyone has something they want to talk about | 21:17 |
| melwitt | dansmith: stop being so stable and specular | 21:17 |
| dansmith | melwitt: don't tempt me | 21:17 |
| melwitt | heh | 21:17 |
| mriedem | alright, thanks everyone | 21:17 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 21:17 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 25 21:17:48 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:17 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-05-25-21.00.html | 21:17 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-05-25-21.00.txt | 21:17 |
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| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-05-25-21.00.log.html | 21:17 |
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| armax | oi | 22:00 |
| kevinbenton | aloha! | 22:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 22:00 |
| kevinbenton | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 22:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu May 25 22:00:42 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kevinbenton. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:00 |
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| ihrachys | o/ | 22:00 |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 22:00 |
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| bzhao_ | o/ | 22:01 |
| kevinbenton | does anyone have anything they would like to discuss with ongoing blueprint issues before we take a look at a couple of RFEs? | 22:01 |
| ihrachys | no | 22:02 |
| armax | none from me | 22:02 |
| mlavalle | i'm good | 22:03 |
| kevinbenton | ok | 22:03 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=Triaged&field.tag=rfe | 22:03 |
| kevinbenton | i'm going to go out of order initially because there are a few that we've discussed before and we should be able to quickly approve | 22:03 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1673142 | 22:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1673142 in neutron "[RFE][ML2] Enforce extension semantics" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:03 |
| armax | ok | 22:03 |
| kevinbenton | this was discussed at the PTG and I don't think anyone had any issues with it | 22:04 |
| kevinbenton | it's also needed to cleanup some custom validation logic that is getting sprinkled everywhere for QoS and now SG logging | 22:04 |
| ihrachys | authors lined to pull it? | 22:04 |
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| armax | no, I think this makes sense | 22:05 |
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| kevinbenton | I think Bob said he has some time to work on it | 22:05 |
| armax | not sure if there’s any sane implementation | 22:05 |
| ihrachys | good. if we have Bob committed, this should def go in | 22:05 |
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| kevinbenton | I think we can move to approved and if Bob can't get it done this cycle it can defer later | 22:06 |
| armax | aye | 22:06 |
| ihrachys | + | 22:06 |
| mlavalle | ++ | 22:06 |
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| kevinbenton | actually that might have been the only one i needed to do out of order | 22:07 |
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| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1042049 | 22:08 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1042049 in neutron "[RFE] auto-associate floating ips" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:08 |
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| mlavalle | we lost this one almost 5 years... | 22:08 |
| armax | this was brought up at the summit | 22:08 |
| kevinbenton | this thing is a little old :) | 22:08 |
| armax | in the forum | 22:09 |
| armax | discussion about get-me-a-network | 22:09 |
| ihrachys | heh | 22:09 |
| armax | I ended up fishing through the pile | 22:09 |
| armax | :) | 22:09 |
| ihrachys | yeah, it will fit auto-allocated-net | 22:09 |
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| kevinbenton | armax, do you have the bandwidth to work on this one? | 22:09 |
| ihrachys | so operators feel like wasting fips? | 22:09 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: yep | 22:09 |
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| kevinbenton | we would obviously need to figure out how discoverability of this behavior and whatnot will work | 22:10 |
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| clarkb | fwiw this is shades default behavior when creating an instance unless you tell it to do something different | 22:11 |
| kevinbenton | and it's also how EC2 works IIRC | 22:11 |
| kevinbenton | or how it did many a year ago :) | 22:11 |
| ihrachys | hm, I think elastic ip should be explicitly assigned there, but... doesn't matter | 22:12 |
| kevinbenton | i think i see two components here | 22:12 |
| kevinbenton | one is a flag that can be set on a network that causes any ports to get a floating IP that are created on that network | 22:13 |
| kevinbenton | the other is adjusting the auto allocated topology to set that flag | 22:13 |
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| kevinbenton | armax: there? | 22:14 |
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| mlavalle | we lost him | 22:15 |
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| mlavalle | i'm afraid | 22:16 |
| kevinbenton | yeah | 22:16 |
| kevinbenton | looks that way | 22:16 |
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| mlavalle | but the network flag could me used independently of auto allocated topology, right? | 22:16 |
| kevinbenton | yes | 22:16 |
| mlavalle | be used^^^ | 22:16 |
| kevinbenton | I think so | 22:16 |
| armax | sorry | 22:17 |
| kevinbenton | I believe we will need to track when floating IPs are auto allocated as well and auto release them | 22:17 |
| ihrachys | so on router attach, it will assign a fip per tenant port? | 22:17 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: good question. not sure if it should affect existing ports or if we should even allow the flag to be set without a router already attached | 22:18 |
| ihrachys | we'll need to allocate a bunch of fips at once. | 22:18 |
| armax | I am back | 22:18 |
| mlavalle | I think kevinbenton's approach is safer | 22:18 |
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| kevinbenton | armax: do you have bandwidth to work on this feature? | 22:18 |
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| ihrachys | anyhoo, I think we can leave it to drafter to write it up, and then we can beat it to death. assuming we have a drafter. | 22:19 |
| armax | kevinbenton: this work is independent from the auto-allocated-topology effort | 22:19 |
| armax | to start with anyway | 22:19 |
| armax | kevinbenton: I can try and put some cycles for a spec | 22:19 |
| armax | as I feel it’s needed | 22:19 |
| kevinbenton | armax: yeah, did you see my messagers early up? | 22:19 |
| kevinbenton | messages* | 22:19 |
| armax | I am scrolling up | 22:19 |
| kevinbenton | the flag on the network that controls auto allocation is the biggest component | 22:20 |
| kevinbenton | and is orthoganal to get-me-a-network | 22:20 |
| kevinbenton | ok | 22:20 |
| kevinbenton | well if you can write a spec | 22:20 |
| armax | OK, let me flush out a spec and associated it to this | 22:20 |
| kevinbenton | lets approve | 22:20 |
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| armax | I think this makes sense | 22:20 |
| ihrachys | + | 22:20 |
| armax | not sure why it got buried in the pile | 22:20 |
| mlavalle | ++, will make Dan's dream reality after 5 years | 22:20 |
| armax | and why it was never considered a nova-net feature parity gap | 22:20 |
| ihrachys | first rule of neutron club - never talk about new parity gaps | 22:21 |
| mlavalle | ihrachys: you got it! | 22:21 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1505627 | 22:21 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1505627 in neutron "[RFE] QoS Explicit Congestion Notification (ECN) Support" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 22:21 |
| kevinbenton | mlavalle: did the qos team chat about this? | 22:21 |
| mlavalle | I brought this up during the meeting on Tuesday | 22:22 |
| mlavalle | ralonsoh said he was going to connect tonight | 22:22 |
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| mlavalle | but I don't see him around | 22:22 |
| ihrachys | what was the general feeling? or there was no actual discussion? | 22:22 |
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| mlavalle | he mostly said it was reedip's stuff | 22:23 |
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| mlavalle | and reedip inidcated he wants to pursue it | 22:23 |
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| mlavalle | not something that the entire QoS jumped and supported enthusiastically | 22:23 |
| ihrachys | people indicate a lot of things :) | 22:23 |
| ihrachys | just sayin | 22:24 |
| mlavalle | agree | 22:24 |
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| kevinbenton | maybe we should allow reedip to write a spec so we can get all of the implementation questions answered? | 22:24 |
| mlavalle | doesn't seem high in their priorities | 22:24 |
| kevinbenton | or just defer | 22:24 |
| kevinbenton | until next cycle | 22:24 |
| mlavalle | kevinbenton: let's give reedip the opportunity | 22:24 |
| kevinbenton | ok | 22:24 |
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| ihrachys | I would rather not spend time (and I won't). I don't see it is critical for reedip either. | 22:25 |
| ihrachys | anyhoo, you are free to | 22:25 |
| mlavalle | well, let's mark it deferred and let reedip come back to us if it is that important | 22:25 |
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| kevinbenton | mlavalle: ok | 22:26 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1506076 | 22:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1506076 in neutron "Allow connection tracking to be disabled per-port" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:27 |
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| armax | this to me sounds like it requires no user facing changes | 22:28 |
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| armax | I wonder if it can be treated as a regular bug | 22:28 |
| kevinbenton | yes | 22:28 |
| kevinbenton | armax: i agree | 22:28 |
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| kevinbenton | this is about figuring how how to tell the firewalls not to conntrack a security disabled port | 22:29 |
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| ihrachys | so just a terminating iptables rule? yes, it's a performance optimization, nothing to RFE | 22:30 |
| kevinbenton | yep, and changing the CT action rules in ovs native firewall if necessary | 22:30 |
| ihrachys | + on moving from RFE to bug | 22:31 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1518392 | 22:31 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1518392 in neutron "[RFE] Enable arp_responder without l2pop" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 22:31 |
| armax | kevinbenton: I assigned this to you | 22:31 |
| kevinbenton | so this is referring to one of the many roles of l2pop | 22:32 |
| armax | yea | 22:32 |
| kevinbenton | right now in addition to populating forwarding entries for tunnels | 22:32 |
| kevinbenton | it's messages are also used to setup ARP responder entries | 22:32 |
| kevinbenton | However, we can setup ARP responder entries using just the existing port update messages that go to the l2 agent | 22:33 |
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| ihrachys | vif_details included? | 22:33 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: what do you mean? | 22:33 |
| ihrachys | sorry, mixed things, thought about tunnels. | 22:34 |
| ihrachys | yeah right, you have mac addr there | 22:34 |
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| kevinbenton | So I would like to approve this, but I won't be able to work on it right away and it might slip to next cycle | 22:34 |
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| kevinbenton | depending on how the push notifications stuff goes | 22:35 |
| ihrachys | that's ok I believe | 22:35 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 22:35 |
| kevinbenton | i still need to get SGs fixed up for push notifications | 22:35 |
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| ihrachys | well ovs piece is in gate | 22:35 |
| mlavalle | yeap | 22:35 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: that's only for basic l2 things | 22:35 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: i have an abandoned patch i need to restore for the SG component | 22:35 |
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| ihrachys | what else do you need for arp responder? | 22:36 |
| kevinbenton | nothing else | 22:36 |
| kevinbenton | just bandwidth to actually implement it :) | 22:36 |
| ihrachys | ok ok, I am just saying no dep | 22:36 |
| ihrachys | anymore | 22:36 |
| kevinbenton | yep | 22:36 |
| kevinbenton | no deps | 22:36 |
| ihrachys | + let's approve | 22:37 |
| kevinbenton | cool | 22:37 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1640956 | 22:37 |
| mlavalle | ++ | 22:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1640956 in neutron "RFE: Extension for improving Nova-Neutron callflow to cache port data" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:37 |
| ihrachys | was there ever a write-up for neutron side? | 22:38 |
| kevinbenton | I don't think so | 22:38 |
| ihrachys | or alternatively, was Ian at PTG and assured he will pull it? | 22:38 |
| kevinbenton | Ian was at the PTG and he said he had resources for this | 22:38 |
| kevinbenton | I'm okay with the high-level of having an API call for all things related to a port | 22:39 |
| kevinbenton | it's floating ips | 22:39 |
| kevinbenton | its subnets, networks, etc | 22:39 |
| ihrachys | trunks | 22:39 |
| kevinbenton | ++ | 22:39 |
| ihrachys | yes I think I agree with the general idea | 22:39 |
| kevinbenton | so i'm thinking we can just approve this and wait for the spec | 22:39 |
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| mlavalle | ok | 22:39 |
| armax | kevinbenton: or do we want to wait for the spea | 22:40 |
| armax | spec | 22:40 |
| armax | before approval? | 22:40 |
| kevinbenton | no | 22:40 |
| kevinbenton | i want to say the enhancement i agree with | 22:40 |
| kevinbenton | the rest is implementation details | 22:41 |
| armax | ok | 22:41 |
| ihrachys | you're the boss, go for it | 22:42 |
| kevinbenton | in my mind 'rfe-approved' == valid use case we can address | 22:42 |
| armax | well | 22:42 |
| mlavalle | so spec is next step? | 22:42 |
| kevinbenton | mlavalle: yep | 22:42 |
| armax | rfe-approved meant more than that | 22:42 |
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| armax | it means it makes sense, we have a chance to make it happen | 22:43 |
| kevinbenton | that's what i just said :) | 22:43 |
| armax | in terms of resources both dev and review | 22:43 |
| kevinbenton | oh | 22:43 |
| kevinbenton | i see | 22:43 |
| kevinbenton | i think those should be separate | 22:43 |
| kevinbenton | and tracked via the corresponding blueprint and milestone tracking | 22:43 |
| ihrachys | it's actually captured in devref, so maybe kevinbenton you can start with posting a patch for the docs? because it's not the first time confusion re process arises. | 22:43 |
| armax | otherwise we can have a bunch of rfe approved and respective blueprints which we track but never go anywhere | 22:44 |
| ihrachys | I lean to armax vision in that resources should be lined up prior to approval | 22:44 |
| kevinbenton | armax: which is fine IMO because it shows where we need more resources | 22:44 |
| armax | the idea behind the rfe process is that we can coordinate the effort in a way that we the team can have a sense of what is actually going to be delivered | 22:44 |
| kevinbenton | i disagree | 22:44 |
| kevinbenton | because it makes it hard for people that have the power to provide resources | 22:45 |
| armax | otherwise, approve it all! and we can save an hour a week | 22:45 |
| kevinbenton | to tell if there are legitimate features that aren't getting implemented because of a resource shortage | 22:45 |
| kevinbenton | or if features are just being rejected because they dont' fit the proejct | 22:45 |
| armax | right, that’s a problem we’re experiencing only recently | 22:45 |
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| armax | rfe’s don’t disappear | 22:46 |
| armax | and we don’t need to reject them | 22:47 |
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| armax | so far we have been marking some incomplete | 22:47 |
| armax | for one reason or another | 22:47 |
| kevinbenton | ok, i'll file a devref change | 22:47 |
| armax | at the end of each cycle we look at the rfe graveyard | 22:47 |
| armax | wait | 22:47 |
| ihrachys | in my experience, powers usually come to the table with their own features, it's not like there is spare pool of talent that sits there waiting for RFE to move to -approved. | 22:47 |
| armax | I disagree with you | 22:47 |
| armax | :) | 22:47 |
| armax | I think you’re breaking the only thing that might work in this RFE process | 22:47 |
| ihrachys | armax, you can still disagree in gerrit | 22:48 |
| armax | we can take this on your devref change though | 22:48 |
| armax | yeah | 22:48 |
| armax | that’s fine | 22:48 |
| armax | -2 coming right up | 22:48 |
| armax | :) | 22:48 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1640960 | 22:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1640960 in neutron "RFE: VIF plugging negotiation between Nova and Neutron" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:49 |
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| mlavalle | kevinbenton: i think I recall that we were going to discuss some of trevormc rfe's today | 22:49 |
| mlavalle | per last meeting | 22:49 |
| trevormc | sorry to interrupt, any chance we can get to at least this one (of three) https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1693240 ? | 22:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1693240 in neutron "[RFE] Support SRIOV VF VLAN Filtering" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:49 |
| kevinbenton | trevormc: it's still not clear to me if you're requesting a Neutron API change here | 22:50 |
| ihrachys | is it just sriov driver for trunks? | 22:51 |
| kevinbenton | right | 22:51 |
| trevormc | no api change should be required. | 22:51 |
| kevinbenton | trevormc: ok | 22:51 |
| kevinbenton | then I'm good with this | 22:51 |
| ihrachys | if so, just post one as a bug no? | 22:51 |
| kevinbenton | it's just a feature implementation gap in SR-IOV | 22:51 |
| trevormc | we can query trunk ports to make a list and then use VFd to configure the nic. | 22:51 |
| kevinbenton | ok | 22:52 |
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| trevormc | thanks, thats the only one i wanted reviewed | 22:52 |
| kevinbenton | so this can just be treated as a regular bug like ihrachys said | 22:52 |
| trevormc | ok | 22:52 |
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| ihrachys | remove rfe-* flags, it's not needed. leave Wishlist. no BP or spec. | 22:52 |
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| trevormc | got it | 22:53 |
| kevinbenton | trevormc: and assign to yourself assuming you're writing the code :) | 22:53 |
| trevormc | yep :) | 22:53 |
| kevinbenton | ok | 22:53 |
| mlavalle | we will come after you trevormc ;-) | 22:53 |
| kevinbenton | let's see if we can cover https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1640960 | 22:53 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1640960 in neutron "RFE: VIF plugging negotiation between Nova and Neutron" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:53 |
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| kevinbenton | this is another Ian said he had resources for and was pitching at the PTG | 22:54 |
| ihrachys | I think the main question to answer here is how does it fit multiple port bindings plans, and whether we squash them into the same extension. or we want to deal with 3 binding extensions. | 22:54 |
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| kevinbenton | ihrachys: i think they are orthoganal and IMO multiple port bindings is more important so i don't want to drag that spec down fleshing this out as well | 22:55 |
| kevinbenton | because there are dragons in the implementation details of this one | 22:55 |
| ihrachys | as for implementation, it seems to be largely driven from nova side, so we will just accommodate. | 22:55 |
| kevinbenton | (on the nova side) | 22:56 |
| ihrachys | ok 3 extensions then. since they are admin, maybe it's not that bad. | 22:56 |
| kevinbenton | yes | 22:56 |
| kevinbenton | i doubt this will land on the nova side this cycle anyway | 22:57 |
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| kevinbenton | so we would probably be forced into another extension anyway | 22:57 |
| kevinbenton | i said anyway too many times in a row :) | 22:57 |
| armax | 3 minutes left, anyway | 22:58 |
| ihrachys | so you want to approve but don't plan to land anything? | 22:58 |
| armax | 2 now | 22:58 |
| kevinbenton | approve and wait for spec | 22:58 |
| kevinbenton | let nova folks drive the priority | 22:58 |
| kevinbenton | because neutron side should be simple | 22:58 |
| kevinbenton | basically pick from a list of vif types | 22:58 |
| ihrachys | I guess we won't have problems with resources once it gets to it | 22:59 |
| kevinbenton | ok, approved and waiting on spec then | 22:59 |
| mlavalle | + | 22:59 |
| armax | ok | 23:00 |
| armax | time | 23:00 |
| kevinbenton | #endmeeting | 23:00 |
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| armax | bye | 23:00 |
| ihrachys | ciao | 23:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu May 25 23:00:34 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 23:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-05-25-22.00.html | 23:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-05-25-22.00.txt | 23:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-05-25-22.00.log.html | 23:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 23:00 |
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