| ekcs | time for congress meeting ramineni_ thinrichs | 00:00 |
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| ekcs | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 00:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 15 00:01:08 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:01 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs_: hi | 00:01 |
| ekcs | Hi all. Welcome back to another week. As usual, topics are here: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 00:01 |
| ekcs | pls feel free to add/comment/edit | 00:01 |
| ekcs | hi ramineni_ ! | 00:01 |
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| ekcs | ok let’s get started then. | 00:06 |
| ekcs | #topic announcements | 00:06 |
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| ekcs | Pike-2 released for congress and congress-dashboard | 00:06 |
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| ekcs | client 1.7 also released | 00:06 |
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| ramineni_ | Great :) | 00:06 |
| ekcs | the release for congress and congress-dashboard ended up being late because we forgot to set create the pypi project and set the project-config release job for congress-dashboard. | 00:07 |
| ekcs | thankfully the release went out despite the hiccup. | 00:08 |
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| ekcs | lesson learned for me is to do the release early especially for initial release like congress-dashboard. | 00:08 |
| ekcs | any other announcements? | 00:08 |
| ramineni_ | Oh ok | 00:09 |
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| ekcs | ok moving on then =) | 00:11 |
| ekcs | #topic Rule ID logging for action execution | 00:11 |
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| ekcs | ramineni_: is there anything to talk about on that front? any follow-up questions or discussions? | 00:11 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs : actually I couldn't find a proper way to get the rule id in execute action part | 00:13 |
| ramineni_ | Because , I think there we need to update trigger registry to store rule id somewhere | 00:14 |
| ekcs | yea so there are at least two ways to do it. one is to store rule id when the execute table is evaluated. that’s probably the more proper way. | 00:15 |
| ekcs | but another is to after the fact query the execute table again using the explain feature to look at the rule that triggered it. | 00:15 |
| ekcs | did you get my email about the explain feature? | 00:16 |
| ramineni_ | Trace right? | 00:16 |
| ramineni_ | Explain feature =trace ? | 00:17 |
| ekcs | yea. does that seem promising? | 00:17 |
| ekcs | theoretically you can query the execute table, find the rule that caused the particular entry that caused the recent execution, then query the policy engine again to retrieve the rule ID of that rule. | 00:17 |
| ekcs | not sure if it’ll end up being more or less complicated than storing rule ID during first evaluation. | 00:18 |
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| ramineni_ | Ya .. It's helpful .. Thanks. | 00:18 |
| ramineni_ | But I'm able to get the rule id if it's the single table | 00:19 |
| ekcs | sorry what do you mean “single table”? | 00:20 |
| ramineni_ | Like execute [ nova.servers.pause], if there are 2 rules defined with same head | 00:20 |
| ramineni_ | Then which rule caused that is not available | 00:20 |
| ramineni_ | May be I have to dig more | 00:21 |
| ekcs | got it do you have a sample output from trace? | 00:21 |
| ekcs | I think the information is there (in the SUCCESS and FAIL), but it’s not obvious how to read it. | 00:22 |
| ekcs | you can also email me later. | 00:22 |
| ramineni_ | Ya .. I'll email you on where I'm stuck | 00:22 |
| ramineni_ | Thanks for the pointers | 00:23 |
| ramineni_ | :) | 00:23 |
| ekcs | ok great. | 00:23 |
| ekcs | #topic policy monitoring UI discussions | 00:25 |
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| ekcs | Last time I think we have more or less a consensus on the mockup except for remedial actions. | 00:25 |
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| ekcs | I’m thinking we could focus on parts that don’t involve remedial actions. and it can always be added later. | 00:27 |
| ramineni_ | Yes, sounds good | 00:27 |
| ekcs | but I did also added some mock-up having to do with remedial actions. | 00:27 |
| ramineni_ | UI part are we trageting for pike or q release | 00:28 |
| ramineni_ | Ok .. great , can you share the link | 00:29 |
| ekcs | I’m hoping we can get the basic version into Pike. Just displaying the number of errors and warnings per policy in the main page, and displaying the warning and error table. | 00:29 |
| ekcs | does that seem reasonable? | 00:29 |
| ekcs | link is on the topics etherpad. here again: https://wireframepro.mockflow.com/view/congress-policy-monitor | 00:30 |
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| ekcs | remedial action stuff we can discuss and target queen maybe? | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | Hi all. Sorry I'm late. | 00:30 |
| ekcs | hi thinrichs ! | 00:30 |
| ekcs | we’re discussing policy monitoring UI. | 00:31 |
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| thinrichs | Ok | 00:32 |
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| ramineni_ | Hi thinrichs | 00:32 |
| thinrichs | ramineni_: hi | 00:32 |
| ramineni_ | ekcs_: ok | 00:33 |
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| ekcs | we’re talking about whether we can reasonbly finish the basic version in Pike, without addressing remedial actions. | 00:33 |
| ekcs | Here’s the latest mockup btw, https://wireframepro.mockflow.com/view/congress-policy-monitor | 00:34 |
| ekcs | we could also talk about the latest additions in the mock-up for remedial action, if there’s something to discuss now. or leave for another time. not urgent. | 00:36 |
| thinrichs | The remedial action is the V2 comment, right? That records how many action executions there were. | 00:37 |
| thinrichs | I would think we should separate (i) adding functionality to backend and (ii) creating the UI | 00:37 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: right. also some things in the per policy page | 00:37 |
| thinrichs | So that we don't create a UI until the backend supports the info the front-end needs. | 00:37 |
| thinrichs | I don't think we have counters on the backend for how many times an execution fired | 00:38 |
| thinrichs | or even if all of the action-execution firings correspond to policy violations | 00:38 |
| thinrichs | They could be sending out logs or shuttling data to another service | 00:38 |
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| ekcs | thinrichs: right, we don’t. but knowing what front-end we’d like helps us know what back-end functionality is needed right? | 00:39 |
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| ekcs | anyway the discussions around remedial action in the UI is early stage. we can move on if there isn’t much to talk about right now. | 00:41 |
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| thinrichs | +1 to using the UI to generate requirements for backend | 00:42 |
| ekcs | ok let’s move on for now then. feel free to comment on the mockup. (no signed needed I believe to comment) | 00:43 |
| ekcs | #topic policy library discussions | 00:43 |
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| ekcs | Thanks for the reviews on the policy lib data model patch. I’m working on a second patchset addressing the comments and including the API methods. | 00:43 |
| ekcs | One point to address: | 00:44 |
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| ekcs | is it important to have the UUID for the library policies? | 00:44 |
| ekcs | I remember hearing about how UUID was added to the policy enigne policies API because people wanted that. | 00:45 |
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| ekcs | would the same reasons apply here? | 00:45 |
| thinrichs | Trying to remember... | 00:45 |
| thinrichs | People definitely expected a UUID on all the resources | 00:45 |
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| thinrichs | We tried just having the name for a long time (and even called it the ID), but that didn't help | 00:46 |
| thinrichs | Do we expect the names to be unique for the library? | 00:46 |
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| ekcs | Hmm ok. So that means we should have UUID here too then? | 00:46 |
| thinrichs | The names had to be unique for the policies so that we could reference policy A from policy B as A:foo | 00:46 |
| thinrichs | But for the library, it's not as clear that all the names need to be unique | 00:47 |
| thinrichs | You could have 3 policies named A, with a policy B that references A:foo, and it's the user's job to pick which version of A to instantiate. | 00:47 |
| thinrichs | (Maybe the 3 policies differ in whether they reference glance or glare; ceilometer or monasca; etc.) | 00:48 |
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| thinrichs | In both cases I'd lean toward having a UUID for each policy in the library. | 00:48 |
| ekcs | hmmm. that’s a good point. I had designed for the names to be unique even in the library. but then you lose this use case. | 00:49 |
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| ekcs | but regardless of whether names are unique, people want to see UUID. | 00:50 |
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| thinrichs | right | 00:50 |
| ekcs | correct? | 00:50 |
| thinrichs | yep | 00:50 |
| ekcs | ok. | 00:51 |
| ekcs | and hmm any more arguments for or against unique names in library? | 00:51 |
| ekcs | I can’t think of any reason to insist on uniqueness. | 00:52 |
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| ekcs | except maybe it’s easier to activate a policy by name in CLI. weak argument though. | 00:53 |
| thinrichs | Could always do a lookup: given name, find the UUID | 00:54 |
| thinrichs | (meaning the CLI could do the lookup, and the API could require having a UUID) | 00:54 |
| thinrichs | Or the API could accept both | 00:54 |
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| thinrichs | I've got to run home. Just found out the nanny bailed (again) | 00:54 |
| ekcs | ok later thinrichs | 00:55 |
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| thinrichs | Thanks all! | 00:55 |
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| ekcs | ramineni_: any more thoughts on uniqueness of names or anything else policy library? | 00:55 |
| ramineni_ | Nothing from my side | 00:56 |
| ekcs | ok then! | 00:56 |
| ekcs | #topic open discussion | 00:56 |
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| ekcs | anything else to talk about? | 00:56 |
| ekcs | if not we can call it =) | 00:56 |
| ramineni_ | Are we having ptg | 00:56 |
| ramineni_ | ? | 00:57 |
| ekcs | oh right. I responded probably to the questionaire. | 00:57 |
| ekcs | meant to talk about it at some point when people are around. | 00:57 |
| ramineni_ | Oohk ..np ..we can discuss next time then | 00:58 |
| ekcs | basically I think it’s really helpful to have the time set aside to talk. but it may also be an option to do it remotely to avoid a trip. but the time difference makes it complicated too. and it’s hard to get the same kind of dedicated time. | 00:58 |
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| ekcs | yea please think about what you think is best and email me or ML and we can also talk about it at future meeting. | 00:59 |
| ramineni_ | Ya , right | 00:59 |
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| ramineni_ | Sure | 00:59 |
| ekcs | alright then. more next time! | 00:59 |
| ekcs | #endmeeting | 01:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 15 01:00:01 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-06-15-00.01.html | 01:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-06-15-00.01.txt | 01:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-06-15-00.01.log.html | 01:00 |
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| wanghao | hi | 02:00 |
| zhenguo | #startmeeting mogan | 02:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 15 02:01:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhenguo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 02:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 02:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: mogan)" | 02:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mogan' | 02:01 |
| zhenguo | o/ | 02:01 |
| litao__ | o/ | 02:01 |
| zhenguo | liusheng, shaohe_feng, luyao, Xinran, zhangyang: are you here? | 02:02 |
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| liusheng | o/ | 02:02 |
| wanghao | miss me | 02:02 |
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| wanghao | :( | 02:02 |
| luyao | o/ | 02:02 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: hah | 02:02 |
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| Xinran | o/ | 02:03 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: I find you say hi before the meeting :D | 02:03 |
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| wanghao | hhaha | 02:03 |
| zhenguo | as always, the agenda: | 02:03 |
| zhenguo | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Mogan#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 02:03 |
| zhenguo | let's jump in | 02:03 |
| zhenguo | #topic announcements and reminders | 02:03 |
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| zhenguo | We got the first weekly tasks report sent out last week. thansk wanghao! | 02:04 |
| liusheng | thanks | 02:04 |
| wanghao | my pleasure | 02:04 |
| zhangyang | o/ | 02:04 |
| zhenguo | please remember to update the etherpad to help summarize the report, thanks all | 02:05 |
| zhenguo | Our tempest coverage is improved and the work is still going on, thanks liusheng! | 02:05 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: np :) | 02:05 |
| wanghao | I see it, very cool, God sheng | 02:05 |
| zhenguo | hah | 02:05 |
| zhenguo | We don't have a time freeze for specs this cycle, but please write specs for you BP soon if it's needed to ensure there's enough time to review. | 02:06 |
| liusheng | lol | 02:06 |
| zhenguo | Contribution into mogan for the last 30 days | 02:07 |
| zhenguo | #link http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/mogan/30 | 02:07 |
| zhenguo | the review stats is still not looks very well, so also please do more reviews | 02:07 |
| zhenguo | And as we are all in a same TZ, I propose to have a 'review hour' every day if it's feasible, wdyt? | 02:08 |
| litao__ | sure | 02:08 |
| wanghao | yeah, I think it's great | 02:08 |
| zhenguo | Not only cores should paticipate, everyone can join or ping others for review during that time. | 02:08 |
| liusheng | sounds great! | 02:08 |
| wanghao | seems a little better then last week in revies. | 02:09 |
| wanghao | good start at least. | 02:09 |
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| zhenguo | hah, yes, as you all start to review patches | 02:09 |
| wanghao | yeah | 02:09 |
| zhenguo | which makes us like a real community | 02:09 |
| litao__ | hah | 02:10 |
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| zhenguo | and I stop to +A patch directly to let it be fully reviewed | 02:10 |
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| zhenguo | ok, if you agree, we will find a time | 02:11 |
| wanghao | em | 02:11 |
| wanghao | maybe 4:30-5:30 | 02:11 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: hah, as you will end the day by 5:30, right? | 02:12 |
| wanghao | yeah, change your brain before go home | 02:12 |
| wanghao | haha | 02:12 |
| zhenguo | lol | 02:12 |
| zhenguo | I'm ok with that time | 02:12 |
| * litao__ which day? | 02:12 | |
| wanghao | every day | 02:12 |
| zhenguo | is it feasible for everyday? | 02:12 |
| liusheng | I am also Ok | 02:13 |
| litao__ | which day is the review day? | 02:13 |
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| zhenguo | litao__ not review day, it's review hour | 02:13 |
| zhenguo | litao__: so everyday could has a review hour, lol | 02:14 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: maybe 1,3,5? | 02:14 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: ok | 02:14 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: sounds good | 02:14 |
| liusheng | or 1, 2, 4 lol | 02:15 |
| litao__ | like hackathon？ | 02:15 |
| zhenguo | lol | 02:15 |
| wanghao | litao__: pretty much | 02:15 |
| wanghao | liusheng: haha | 02:15 |
| zhenguo | everyday is ok for me... | 02:15 |
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| zhenguo | or every hour, hah | 02:15 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: yeah, | 02:16 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: wdyt? | 02:16 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: we can just try it a week and see if it's ok next week. | 02:16 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: you are free | 02:16 |
| zhenguo | litao__: not really | 02:16 |
| wanghao | 1,2,4 also fine to me | 02:16 |
| zhenguo | so 4:30pm to 5:30 pm every 1,2,4 | 02:17 |
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| wanghao | zhenguo: great | 02:17 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: That's all | 02:18 |
| liusheng | +1 | 02:18 |
| zhenguo | ok, if someone else dissent this, we can discuss later | 02:18 |
| zhenguo | not much of announcement, anyone else have a thing here? | 02:19 |
| zhenguo | the Sydney Summit presentation is open, we really need a one to show what's mogan | 02:20 |
| zhenguo | we got a presentation selected on openstack days china next month :D | 02:21 |
| litao__ | Sydney is a good place | 02:21 |
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| liusheng | hope we can go there :) | 02:21 |
| wanghao | could we apply a project onboard in Sydney? | 02:21 |
| zhenguo | hah, we can prepare more presentatins, if you want to go | 02:22 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: seems yes | 02:22 |
| wanghao | to introduce Mogan to users like other projects doing in Boston. | 02:22 |
| wanghao | yes | 02:22 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: not sure if it's allowed for non-official project | 02:22 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: yeah, aslo concern that too. | 02:23 |
| litao__ | so make it official | 02:23 |
| zhenguo | litao__: hah | 02:23 |
| wanghao | litao__: that's our try too to apply a project onboard | 02:24 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: maybe need more information about that. | 02:24 |
| litao__ | wanghao: yes | 02:24 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: yes, will check later, still got time | 02:24 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: cool | 02:24 |
| zhenguo | ok, let's move on | 02:24 |
| zhenguo | #topic task tracking | 02:25 |
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| zhenguo | #links https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MoganWhiteBoard | 02:25 |
| * zhenguo gives folks a few minutes to review | 02:25 | |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: looks good | 02:25 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: the time is feasible for you? | 02:26 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: need to enrich versioned notifications now ? | 02:27 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: yeah, do you have concerns? | 02:28 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: before Pike, I think we should got enough notifications | 02:28 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: no, just confirm is it high priorities now, hah | 02:28 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: ok | 02:28 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: hah, you can try to add it for stable API which we will not change before Pike release | 02:29 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: ok | 02:29 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: we also should mention developers to add notification in new features. | 02:30 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: if needed. | 02:30 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: It's oK | 02:30 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: sure | 02:30 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: ok | 02:30 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: also, for quotas, we shold add more | 02:30 |
| liusheng | btw, I will spend some time to know placement and think about how to integrate it to Mogan, what do you think ? | 02:30 |
| liusheng | wanghao: agreed | 02:30 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: sure | 02:31 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: I will add you to the new flavor bp with me | 02:31 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: yes | 02:31 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: ok | 02:31 |
| shaohe_feng | liusheng: great. | 02:32 |
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| liusheng | shaohe_feng: :D | 02:32 |
| wanghao | liusheng: consider we can support placement in scheduler, but not sure if it could be now. | 02:32 |
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| zhenguo | wanghao: besides node aggregates thing, we can move to that directly after the refactoring of flavor, hah | 02:33 |
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| litao__ | liusheng: is it high priority for placement? | 02:34 |
| zhenguo | so node aggregates spec needs to wait for a while | 02:34 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: yes, that like what nova does now | 02:34 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: do you think we should support two scheduler way? | 02:34 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: placement or our own. | 02:34 |
| zhenguo | if the community are moving to placement, there's no reason for us not to | 02:34 |
| wanghao | emm, sure | 02:35 |
| liusheng | litao__: may be, we need to reduce the burden which may will be bigger if we swith late | 02:35 |
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| zhenguo | wanghao: we will still have a scheduler, placement only for resouces tracking | 02:35 |
| litao__ | liusheng: sure | 02:35 |
| zhenguo | we will move our compute nodes there | 02:35 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: btw, if there is no big issue in adopt node, we can prepare to code it next week. | 02:35 |
| zhenguo | mogan will not store baremetal resources | 02:35 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: yeah, I see. | 02:35 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: yes, you can start coding I think, will try to make more people review that spec | 02:36 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: I will work with wanghao to fullfill adoption | 02:37 |
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| zhenguo | wanghao: aha, today is Thursday, our review hour.. | 02:37 |
| zhenguo | litao__ : thanks | 02:37 |
| zhenguo | litao__: and if you like, you can also do quotas together with wanghao :D | 02:37 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: yeah, I will | 02:38 |
| zhenguo | ok | 02:38 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: I develop new devstack with nova | 02:38 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: it can use placement now | 02:38 |
| zhenguo | shahe_feng: yes, nova has moved to placement | 02:39 |
| zhenguo | but we should find a way to use placement aggregates for our nodes aggregates | 02:39 |
| zhenguo | so I will not update the node aggregates spec recently until we got a outcome | 02:39 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: agree. | 02:40 |
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| zhenguo | wanghao: for adopting servers, we will not save the manageable nodes right? | 02:41 |
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| wanghao | zhenguo: sure, and thanks litao_ | 02:41 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: yes | 02:41 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: just get them from driver and show them to user diectly | 02:42 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: ok | 02:42 |
| litao__ | so it is simple | 02:43 |
| zhenguo | yes | 02:43 |
| zhenguo | another thing I want to discuss is the port_type support | 02:43 |
| zhenguo | as ironic now support vif_attach and vif_detach, so we will move to use that API | 02:44 |
| zhenguo | but it's not support pass hints for physical ports to use | 02:44 |
| zhenguo | so we will lose the ability to specifying port_type when claiming a server | 02:44 |
| zhenguo | but the right approach is to push ironic support this, wdyt? | 02:44 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: I see now Mogan use port_type just to match the physical port from Ironic. | 02:45 |
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| zhenguo | wanghao: yes | 02:46 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: so you mean we will pass the port_type to Ironic? | 02:47 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: yes, but ironic api doens't support it | 02:47 |
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| litao__ | zhenguo: yeah , maybe we can push it to ironic project | 02:48 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: How Ironic to use the port_type? | 02:48 |
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| zhenguo | wanghao: in fact, ironic now support vif_attach api, so we only need to pass a neutron port_id to it then it will choose one physical port to associate | 02:50 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: we don't need to list all ports and select one ourselves, and set extra/vif_port_id to ironic | 02:50 |
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| wanghao | zhenguo: ah I see | 02:50 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: so I would like to make ironic vif attach api support some more hints to the physical port | 02:51 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: at least something like tag should be supported and I think it make sense | 02:51 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: I remember it is done by nova rather than ironic | 02:51 |
| zhenguo | litao__ : nova has changed to just call ironic.vif_attach | 02:52 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: I see, you mean we put the associate process down to Ironic. | 02:52 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: yes | 02:52 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: ironic now just sort the port and choose the first available one | 02:52 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: it's move flexible to let ironic know which type of port we want to use | 02:53 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: emm agree | 02:53 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: it should be supported in Ironic | 02:53 |
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| zhenguo | wanghao:yes, so we can just drop that support provisionally | 02:53 |
| zhenguo | Xinran: hi, please continue the refactor of vif_attach/detach, thanks! | 02:54 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: remove port_type in creation server? I think it's no harmful even if we keep it now. | 02:55 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: since we didn't use it well. | 02:56 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: but if we change to use ironic vif_attach, we can't support that | 02:56 |
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| zhenguo | we can pass it down to ironic driver, but can't pass it to ironic :( | 02:57 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: emm, okay, I see your point. maybe we remove it. let's see the code | 02:58 |
| litao__ | zhenguo:sounds good | 02:58 |
| zhenguo | ok | 02:58 |
| zhenguo | it's almost time | 02:58 |
| zhenguo | we can move to next topic if there is not things want to discuss here | 02:59 |
| zhenguo | #topic open discussion | 02:59 |
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| zhenguo | who's got a thing here | 02:59 |
| Xinran | ok, i will do it soon | 02:59 |
| zhenguo | Xinran: thanks | 03:00 |
| zhenguo | thanks y'all | 03:00 |
| wanghao | bye | 03:00 |
| zhenguo | #endmeeting | 03:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 15 03:00:57 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 03:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2017/mogan.2017-06-15-02.01.html | 03:01 |
| litao__ | bye | 03:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2017/mogan.2017-06-15-02.01.txt | 03:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2017/mogan.2017-06-15-02.01.log.html | 03:01 |
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| gmann | #startmeeting qa | 08:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 15 08:00:17 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is gmann. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 08:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 08:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: qa)" | 08:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 08:00 |
| chandankumar | gmann: hello | 08:00 |
| gmann | who all here today? | 08:00 |
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| zhufl | hello | 08:00 |
| blancos | o/ | 08:00 |
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| pradeepkumarks | hello | 08:00 |
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| gmann | new time and happy to see more people :) | 08:01 |
| masayukig | o/ | 08:01 |
| gmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_Jun_15th_2017_.280800_UTC.29 | 08:01 |
| zhufl | thanks for making the meeting time an hour earlier, now it's 4 PM in China:) | 08:01 |
| gmann | ^^ today agenda | 08:01 |
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| prateek | o/ | 08:02 |
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| gmann | zhyes, 5 for me and i can join dinner with masayukig and mtreinish due to that :) | 08:02 |
| gmann | #topic Previous Meeting Action review | 08:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Previous Meeting Action review (Meeting topic: qa)" | 08:03 | |
| gmann | there was 1 action for andreaf - #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-06-08-17.00.html | 08:03 |
| gmann | and he sent mail for that | 08:03 |
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| gmann | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-June/118283.html | 08:03 |
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| gmann | nice idea about keep monitoring the gate issues | 08:03 |
| gmann | hope everyone saw the mail | 08:04 |
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| masayukig | yeah, I had a glance, but re-read it later.. | 08:04 |
| gmann | there is rotation things for gate issue categorization like bug triage | 08:04 |
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| gmann | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-gate-issue-categotisation | 08:05 |
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| masayukig | gmann: ok, I'll put my names later | 08:06 |
| gmann | no one yet assigned the slots but as andreaf mentioned we encourage new people to start taking those tasks and we can provide mentorship program also | 08:06 |
| gmann | masayukig, thanks +1 | 08:06 |
| gmann | may be few initial week we can do to give a glance of what needs to be done and how to report | 08:06 |
| zhufl | maybe I can have a try, and I need guidance:) | 08:07 |
| gmann | zhufl, sure. it will be nice | 08:07 |
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| gmann | so start putting your name on etherpad for the slot you want | 08:08 |
| zhufl | ok, I'll put my names later | 08:09 |
| masayukig | cool! | 08:09 |
| gmann | #topic PTG | 08:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "PTG (Meeting topic: qa)" | 08:09 | |
| gmann | this is just reminder about PTG schedule out #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-May/117369.html | 08:09 |
| gmann | start preparing about it (mainly budget from company :)). | 08:10 |
| zhufl | I haven't got my visa still | 08:10 |
| masayukig | :( | 08:10 |
| gmann | zhufl, you applied and waiting for visa approval or it is rejected ? | 08:10 |
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| zhufl | 4 months passed, it is pending,' administrative processing' | 08:11 |
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| gmann | zhufl, ohh, thats not good | 08:11 |
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| masayukig | zhufl: you should ask the administrator(?) again.. | 08:11 |
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| gmann | zhufl, one of my colleague had same issue and asked to return passport as travel was near and they issues 1 year visa for him | 08:12 |
| chandankumar | gmann: masayukig for visa, we need letter from where can i get it for ptg? | 08:12 |
| gmann | zhufl, masayukig yea may be checking with them again will help | 08:12 |
| gmann | chandankumar, there is link in that mail to request IL | 08:12 |
| zhufl | oh, I 'll try | 08:12 |
| zhufl | one of my colleague has the same situation with me | 08:13 |
| gmann | chandankumar, from india it is little bit difficult so try to make your application strong | 08:13 |
| gmann | hope you all get visa. | 08:13 |
| zhufl | maybe travel visa is better | 08:13 |
| chandankumar | hope for best :-) | 08:14 |
| gmann | zhufl, yea, i also have business visa and good for conf etc | 08:14 |
| gmann | #topic Gate Stability - status update | 08:14 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Gate Stability - status update (Meeting topic: qa)" | 08:14 | |
| * masayukig doesn't need visas, actually even if I go to China.. | 08:14 | |
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| gmann | gate seems stable now a days and did not find much issue if i have not missed any | 08:15 |
| gmann | #link https://goo.gl/ptPgEw | 08:15 |
| gmann | anyone aware of any critical issue? | 08:16 |
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| chandankumar | gmann: http://logs.openstack.org/74/473774/5/check/gate-tempest-python27-ubuntu-xenial/0af018f/console.html | 08:16 |
| gmann | #link http://status.openstack.org/elastic-recheck/data/integrated_gate.html | 08:16 |
| chandankumar | added recheck let me see if it agains fail | 08:17 |
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| gmann | chandankumar, humm | 08:17 |
| chandankumar | sorry ignore | 08:18 |
| gmann | chandankumar, means? | 08:18 |
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| chandankumar | gmann: on one of my review, it got failed, i added recheck, if it again fails, i will let you know | 08:19 |
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| masayukig | chandankumar: the test case looks not good.. | 08:20 |
| gmann | chandankumar, but strange failure. ok let's check it later | 08:20 |
| gmann | let's move to next topic | 08:21 |
| masayukig | yeah | 08:21 |
| gmann | @topic Specs Reviews | 08:21 |
| gmann | #topic Specs Reviews | 08:21 |
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| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/qa-specs,n,z | 08:22 |
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| gmann | blancos, i need to check this, was away last week - #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/461140/ | 08:22 |
| patchbot | patch 461140 - qa-specs - RBAC testing multiple policies | 08:22 |
| gmann | ll try to check this | 08:22 |
| blancos | gmann Okay, thank you :) | 08:23 |
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| gmann | masayukig, your spec is +A :) #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471623/ | 08:23 |
| patchbot | patch 471623 - qa-specs - Update document theme | 08:23 |
| masayukig | gmann: heh, thanks! | 08:24 |
| gmann | we need to make HA testing moving as it seems stuck #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/443504/ | 08:24 |
| patchbot | patch 443504 - qa-specs - Added spec for high availability testing | 08:24 |
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| gmann | i will check with samP if he need any help on this | 08:24 |
| samP | gmann: hi.. | 08:24 |
| gmann | #action gmann to check with samP about HA testing spec | 08:25 |
| samP | I will update it.. now working on it | 08:25 |
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| gmann | samP, hi, you are here | 08:25 |
| samP | gmann: hi o/ | 08:25 |
| gmann | samP, thanks, i will review on revised version. | 08:25 |
| samP | I was working with LCOO on this. | 08:25 |
| samP | #link https://openstack-lcoo.atlassian.net/wiki/display/LCOO/Working+Space+for+Exteme+Testing+and+related+topics | 08:25 |
| * gmann do not know how to undo action | 08:25 | |
| samP | gmann: its ok, leve it..:) | 08:26 |
| samP | gmann: you can mark it done on next meeting :) | 08:26 |
| prateek | samP, can i help in implementing this ? | 08:27 |
| samP | prateek: That will be great.. | 08:27 |
| blancos | (gmann: I think it's (#)undo action) | 08:27 |
| prateek | samP, thanks | 08:27 |
| gmann | samP, nice, what is that LCOO ? | 08:27 |
| samP | ah.. | 08:27 |
| gmann | prateek, thanks. its great. | 08:27 |
| masayukig | blancos: oh, I didn't know that :) | 08:28 |
| samP | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LCOO | 08:28 |
| gmann | #undo action | 08:28 |
| openstack | Removing item from minutes: #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LCOO | 08:28 |
| gmann | oh no | 08:28 |
| masayukig | heh | 08:28 |
| gmann | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/LCOO | 08:29 |
| gmann | samP, thanks a lot, i will check | 08:29 |
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| gmann | anything else on spec? | 08:29 |
| samP | gmann: I will update the spc asap, so we can move forword | 08:30 |
| gmann | samP, cool\, thanks. | 08:30 |
| samP | gmann: np | 08:30 |
| gmann | #topic Tempest | 08:30 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tempest (Meeting topic: qa)" | 08:30 | |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/tempest+status:open | 08:30 |
| zhufl | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/467483/ | 08:31 |
| zhufl | can we use resource_type defined in clients to assemble show method/delete method, like "show_" + resource_type? | 08:31 |
| patchbot | patch 467483 - tempest - Refactor is_resource_deleted method | 08:31 |
| gmann | zhufl, i did not get completely | 08:32 |
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| zhufl | masayukig: do you get it? | 08:32 |
| masayukig | zhufl: you mean making a method dynamically? | 08:32 |
| zhufl | yes | 08:32 |
| gmann | zhufl, i see, i prefer not to do that, thats too much magic | 08:33 |
| masayukig | zhufl; gmann: yeah, I agree with gmann. | 08:33 |
| zhufl | but if not, we have to add a method in every client | 08:33 |
| gmann | zhufl, we had in neutron clients which were hard to debug so we moved to plain method mapping | 08:33 |
| blancos | I had a question about #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457876 | 08:33 |
| patchbot | patch 457876 - tempest - Add token related API to Keystone v3-ext/OS-OAUTH1... | 08:33 |
| zhufl | gmann: no, I don't mean the same as neutron ever did | 08:34 |
| chandankumar | I have moved tempest plugin sanity check code from project config to tempest https://review.openstack.org/474164 | 08:34 |
| patchbot | patch 474164 - tempest - Added script for doing tempest plugin sanity | 08:34 |
| chandankumar | feedback are welcome to improve it | 08:34 |
| masayukig | zhufl: gmann: but I can try to think that. Or zhufl, you can take over it, if you want :) | 08:34 |
| gmann | zhufl, i think having explicit method in each client much better but i will check that patch tomorrow. | 08:35 |
| gmann | blancos, go ahead | 08:35 |
| blancos | Is this something that would belong in Tempest or Keystone's Tempest plugin? | 08:35 |
| gmann | chandankumar, 1 min please, next turn yours | 08:35 |
| chandankumar | ack | 08:35 |
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| gmann | blancos, is it for patrole testing? | 08:36 |
| hemanth | it is for patrole as well as keystone tempest plugin funtional tests | 08:37 |
| blancos | gmann: I believe there are 1 or 2 commits dependent on it (as hemanth mentioned) | 08:37 |
| gmann | hemanth, ok, and no API test in tempest for that? as it can be covered in keystone plugin right? | 08:38 |
| chandankumar | just one query if we have a tempest plugin for core project what tests will stay in tempest and what in tempest plugin? | 08:38 |
| hemanth | gmann: another patch is submitted for tempest api as well | 08:38 |
| gmann | blancos, hemanth ok, we can have in tempest like other keystone clients no issue as patrole need it | 08:39 |
| hemanth | gmann: can core team review the patch.. since last one month i am just rebasing :-) | 08:39 |
| gmann | blancos, can patrole consume clients from plugin? | 08:39 |
| gmann | hemanth, ohk, apologies for that. i will check that. | 08:40 |
| gmann | blancos, just a thought for future things but we can think later after meeting | 08:40 |
| blancos | gmann: We talked with andreaf about it and he didn't really like the idea | 08:40 |
| gmann | blancos, about consuming client from plugin? | 08:41 |
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| masayukig | chandankumar: I think scenario tests and defcore tests will stay at least. | 08:41 |
| blancos | gmann: Correct | 08:41 |
| gmann | blancos, ok, make sense. | 08:41 |
| gmann | blancos, hemanth i will check that patch | 08:41 |
| gmann | chandankumar, go ahead | 08:41 |
| hemanth | gmann: thanks | 08:41 |
| pradeepkumarks | gmann: on similar lines, we have federation APIs whose clients are implemented in plugin(keystone) | 08:41 |
| gmann | hemanth, np! | 08:41 |
| pradeepkumarks | and hence patrole won't be able to consume those clients | 08:42 |
| chandankumar | i have moved tempest plugin sanity check code from project config to tempest with some more improvement, https://review.openstack.org/474164 | 08:42 |
| patchbot | patch 474164 - tempest - Added script for doing tempest plugin sanity | 08:42 |
| gmann | pradeepkumarks, ok, i think we had federation APIs thing earlier also | 08:42 |
| chandankumar | please have a look and more feedback to improve | 08:42 |
| gmann | pradeepkumarks, it should be configured globally right from devstack side | 08:42 |
| pradeepkumarks | gmann: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473458/ | 08:43 |
| patchbot | patch 473458 - tempest - Implement tempest client for keystone v3 identity_... | 08:43 |
| gmann | chandankumar, you are adding script to intall plugins in tempest right? | 08:43 |
| masayukig | chandankumar: thanks for the updating, I'll have a look tomorrow :) | 08:43 |
| pradeepkumarks | i mean since the client is already implemented in keystone plugin, we can't let patrole consume it | 08:43 |
| gmann | pradeepkumarks, do you have patch up for that? | 08:44 |
| chandankumar | gmann: yes, install one project then run sanity then uninstall and again repeat for others | 08:44 |
| chandankumar | if at any step it fails, the script will exist | 08:44 |
| pradeepkumarks | gmann: patch up for? | 08:44 |
| gmann | chandankumar, ok. make sense. thanks, i will add that in queue | 08:45 |
| chandankumar | gmann: i have also improved tempest plugin list script | 08:45 |
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| gmann | pradeepkumarks, putting federation APIs client in tempest or you want feedback first | 08:45 |
| chandankumar | gmann: related patch https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473774/ | 08:45 |
| patchbot | patch 473774 - tempest - Fixed project lists for retrieving tempest plugins | 08:45 |
| chandankumar | that's it from myside | 08:45 |
| chandankumar | masayukig: gmann thanks :-) | 08:45 |
| gmann | chandankumar, i saw that, should be quick.thanks | 08:45 |
| pradeepkumarks | gmann: https://github.com/openstack/keystone-tempest-plugin/blob/master/keystone_tempest_plugin/services/identity/v3/identity_providers_client.py | 08:46 |
| masayukig | I have one thing: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471352/ | 08:47 |
| patchbot | patch 471352 - tempest - Revert "Check image after unshelve" | 08:47 |
| pradeepkumarks | this is the identity_providers_client which is already there in keystone_tempest_plugin. we wanted to implement patrole testcases for these APIs | 08:47 |
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| gmann | pradeepkumarks, if tests and usage only in plugin then client should be plugin side only but here as you mentioned patrole need it right? | 08:47 |
| pradeepkumarks | gmann: yes | 08:47 |
| pradeepkumarks | gmann: patrole testcases cannot be implemented otherwise | 08:48 |
| gmann | pradeepkumarks, as blancos mentioned same case for other client also, we can take same approach for your case also | 08:48 |
| gmann | blancos, hemanth are those clients present in plugin side also - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/457876 | 08:48 |
| patchbot | patch 457876 - tempest - Add token related API to Keystone v3-ext/OS-OAUTH1... | 08:48 |
| pradeepkumarks | gmann: incase of blancos, client wasnt already implemented at all | 08:49 |
| pradeepkumarks | gmann: not present in plugin either | 08:49 |
| gmann | masayukig, thanks, interesting. i thought checking image is fine after unshelve from nova point of view | 08:49 |
| gmann | masayukig, ll check this | 08:50 |
| gmann | pradeepkumarks, ok. | 08:50 |
| pradeepkumarks | gmann: in federation api case, we will need to add the same client (which is in keystone_tempest_plugin) into tempest as well | 08:50 |
| pradeepkumarks | gmann: should we do that? | 08:50 |
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| blancos | pradeepkumarks: The consensus so far has been no Patrole tests for clients in plugins | 08:51 |
| gmann | pradeepkumarks, it will be duplicate. if tempest going to have those then we can remove from plugin | 08:51 |
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| masayukig | gmann: thanks. | 08:51 |
| masayukig | 9 mins | 08:51 |
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| pradeepkumarks | gmann: ok | 08:51 |
| pradeepkumarks | gmann: we can remove those client from plugin instead of duplicating..if we have consensus | 08:52 |
| gmann | pradeepkumarks, blancos let me think on this and we all can discuss the best way. | 08:52 |
| gmann | pradeepkumarks, sure, ll let you know | 08:52 |
| gmann | let's move | 08:52 |
| pradeepkumarks | gmann: sure, thanks | 08:52 |
| gmann | pradeepkumarks, np! | 08:52 |
| gmann | Bug Triage & Integrated gate issue categorization: | 08:52 |
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| gmann | thsi we already discussed in starting. | 08:53 |
| gmann | #topic Patrole | 08:53 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Patrole (Meeting topic: qa)" | 08:53 | |
| gmann | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/project:openstack/patrole | 08:53 |
| gmann | blancos, any updates or anything to discuss | 08:53 |
| blancos | Not in the Patrole repo, but we currently have a spec in Nova for Patrole gates: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471145 | 08:53 |
| patchbot | patch 471145 - nova-specs - Patrole (RBAC) Nova Gating | 08:53 |
| blancos | Would appreciate QA's input/eyes :) | 08:54 |
| gmann | blancos, i see, but not sure it need spec :). i will check. i like to gate patrole on nova. | 08:54 |
| gmann | blancos, but need more feedback from johnthetubaguy | 08:55 |
| blancos | gmann: Okay, thank you | 08:55 |
| gmann | i will bring this on nova api meetin also | 08:55 |
| gmann | meeting | 08:55 |
| gmann | alex_xu, good for policy testing - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/471145 | 08:55 |
| patchbot | patch 471145 - nova-specs - Patrole (RBAC) Nova Gating | 08:55 |
| gmann | Keystone tempest clients porting to Tempest project | 08:56 |
| gmann | pradeepkumarks, this is same we discussed right? | 08:56 |
| gmann | Welcome lwarderley, an intern in the Outreachy program. ping us anytime for any help | 08:57 |
| uk310y | gmann: Correct !That is what pradeep discussed now. | 08:57 |
| gmann | uk310y, thanks. | 08:57 |
| uk310y | gmann, thanks :) | 08:57 |
| gmann | #action gmann to discuss plugin clients in tempest with team and get consensus | 08:57 |
| gmann | let me put action item | 08:57 |
| gmann | #topic Critical Reviews | 08:57 |
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| gmann | 3 min left | 08:58 |
| gmann | any more critical review, i think discussed lot | 08:58 |
| gmann | let's skip the documentation | 08:58 |
| masayukig | heh, yeah | 08:58 |
| gmann | #topic Open Discussion | 08:58 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Open Discussion (Meeting topic: qa)" | 08:58 | |
| gmann | 2 min left for open discussion | 08:58 |
| masayukig | 1 min.. | 08:58 |
| gmann | :) | 08:59 |
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| zhufl | it's first time for me to stay until the end of the meeting:) | 08:59 |
| gmann | zhufl, good for us also :) | 08:59 |
| masayukig | great! | 08:59 |
| * gmann really happy to see many people in meeting | 08:59 | |
| masayukig | gmann: +1 | 08:59 |
| gmann | thanks all for joining. | 08:59 |
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| gmann | #endmeeting | 09:00 |
| zhufl | +1 :) | 09:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 09:00 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 15 09:00:01 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 09:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-06-15-08.00.html | 09:00 |
| samP | thans all | 09:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-06-15-08.00.txt | 09:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-06-15-08.00.log.html | 09:00 |
| samP | s/thans/thanks | 09:00 |
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| chandankumar | gmann: Thanks for chairing the meeting :-) | 09:01 |
| uk310y | gmann: Thanks for chairing the meeting :) | 09:02 |
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| mriedem | #startmeeting nova | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 15 14:00:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 14:00 |
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| gibi | o/ | 14:00 |
| edleafe | \o | 14:00 |
| dansmith | o/ | 14:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 14:00 |
| mriedem | hi! | 14:00 |
| bauzas | \o | 14:00 |
| efried | o/ | 14:01 |
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| sdague | o/ | 14:01 |
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| mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 14:02 |
| mriedem | #topic release news | 14:02 |
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| mriedem | #link Pike release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Pike_Release_Schedule | 14:02 |
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| mriedem | #info July 27 is feature freeze (6 weeks away) | 14:02 |
| mriedem | #info Blueprints: 71 targeted, 68 approved, 22 completed, 2 not started | 14:02 |
| mriedem | i'm still working on culling the list of blueprints | 14:02 |
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| mriedem | since some are not started, or are blocked | 14:03 |
| * alex_xu waves late | 14:03 | |
| mriedem | i might start an etherpad for categorizing some of that stuff | 14:03 |
| mriedem | like i did in newton | 14:03 |
| mriedem | er ocata | 14:03 |
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| mriedem | any questions on the release or schedule? | 14:03 |
| mriedem | #topic bugs | 14:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:04 | |
| mriedem | nothing listed as critical | 14:04 |
| mriedem | #help Need help with bug triage; there are 78 (down 1 from last week) new untriaged bugs as of today (June 15). | 14:04 |
| mriedem | make that 75 | 14:04 |
| mriedem | someone opened 3 duplicate bugs last night | 14:04 |
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| mriedem | it's nice to have 1 page of untriaged bugs :) | 14:04 |
| mriedem | gate status - things seem ok | 14:05 |
| mriedem | 3rd party ci - no news | 14:05 |
| bauzas | will help | 14:05 |
| mriedem | anything else on bugs? | 14:05 |
| mriedem | #topic reminders | 14:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 14:05 | |
| mriedem | #link Pike Review Priorities etherpad: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/pike-nova-priorities-tracking | 14:05 |
| mriedem | i'm not sure how up to date that is | 14:06 |
| edleafe | ugh - I need to update the scheduler stuff again | 14:06 |
| mriedem | honestly i'm not sure how much people use that etherpad | 14:06 |
| mriedem | i don't really | 14:06 |
| mriedem | i don't have links handy, | 14:07 |
| mriedem | but i should remind that i believe queens summit call for presentations is open | 14:07 |
| mriedem | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit-login/login?BackURL=%2Fsummit%2Fsydney-2017%2Fcall-for-presentations%2F | 14:07 |
| mriedem | #info CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS IS OPEN UNTIL July 14, 2017 at 11:59PM Pacific Time (July 15, 2017 at 6:59 UTC) | 14:07 |
| dansmith | already? | 14:08 |
| mriedem | so if you plan on or want to go to sydney, you've got a month to submit presentations | 14:08 |
| mriedem | dansmith: yeah, i guess | 14:08 |
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| bauzas | yup | 14:08 |
| mriedem | that's what everyone says :) | 14:08 |
| sdague | it's always on the early side | 14:08 |
| dansmith | but.. | 14:08 |
| dansmith | anyway. | 14:08 |
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| mriedem | oh and the PTG | 14:08 |
| mriedem | #link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/ | 14:08 |
| mriedem | #info The second Project Teams Gathering (PTG) will be hosted in Denver, September 11-15, 2017. | 14:09 |
| mriedem | so if you're planning on going to that, time to start talking to the people that hold the money at your company | 14:09 |
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| mriedem | remember to tell them how beautiful they are | 14:09 |
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| mriedem | #topic stable branch status | 14:09 |
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| mriedem | #link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z | 14:09 |
| mriedem | we did a review push on ocata in the last week | 14:10 |
| mriedem | and we have an ocata release request up | 14:10 |
| mriedem | #link Ocata 15.0.6 release request https://review.openstack.org/#/c/474259/ | 14:10 |
| patchbot | patch 474259 - releases - ocata: release nova 15.0.6 | 14:10 |
| mriedem | has quite a few high severity bug fixes in it | 14:10 |
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| mriedem | #link stable/newton: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/newton,n,z | 14:10 |
| mriedem | #topic subteam highlights | 14:10 |
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| mriedem | dansmith: cells v2 things? | 14:10 |
| dansmith | we had a meeting, | 14:11 |
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| dansmith | discussed the ironic fix I have up, which I think has maybe landed? need to check this morning | 14:11 |
| dansmith | getting close to devstack goodness I think | 14:11 |
| dansmith | melwitt's quotas series is starting to roll I think, | 14:11 |
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| dansmith | and the placement quota stuff has been seeing a lot of action | 14:12 |
| dansmith | this was the first meeting where mriedem didn't show up with an armful of bugs, which was nice for a change | 14:12 |
| dansmith | I think that's it? | 14:12 |
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| mriedem | melwitt revived the console stuff | 14:12 |
| mriedem | and hit problems | 14:12 |
| mriedem | ok moving on | 14:13 |
| mriedem | edleafe: scheduler things | 14:13 |
| edleafe | Not a lot of discussion. Mostly just went over the state of reviews. | 14:13 |
| edleafe | Resolved to start work on the Custom Resource in Flavors spec | 14:13 |
| edleafe | Discovered the cdent hates kidney pies. | 14:13 |
| edleafe | EOM | 14:13 |
| cdent | rather | 14:13 |
| edleafe | s/the/that | 14:13 |
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| mriedem | alex_xu: api meeting highlights? | 14:14 |
| alex_xu | the spec for bug fix of the quota-classes API already merged | 14:14 |
| alex_xu | gmann already have the patch | 14:14 |
| alex_xu | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bug/1693168 | 14:14 |
| alex_xu | probably just waiting for the update | 14:14 |
| mriedem | alex_xu: oh i didn't see the patch b/c it's not tied to the bp | 14:14 |
| alex_xu | and the progress of no-more-extension is good | 14:14 |
| alex_xu | mriedem: yea, those patches submitted before the spec | 14:15 |
| alex_xu | gmann: probably will update the patches | 14:15 |
| alex_xu | I think that all we have | 14:15 |
| mriedem | ok thanks | 14:15 |
| mriedem | gibi: notification highlights? | 14:15 |
| gibi | yes | 14:15 |
| gibi | The searchlight related notification additions are ready to review, mriedem already +2 on the first patch of the series. | 14:15 |
| gibi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/additional-notification-fields-for-searchlight+status:open | 14:15 |
| gibi | Adding tags to instance.create waits for the tags to be added to the boot request proposed in #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/394321/ | 14:15 |
| patchbot | patch 394321 - nova - Support tag instances when boot | 14:15 |
| gibi | We have couple of notification transformations that only need a second +2 and a lot that are ready for core review | 14:15 |
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| gibi | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:master+topic:bp/versioned-notification-transformation-pike+label:Code-Review%253E%253D%252B1+label:Verified%253E%253D1+AND+NOT+label:Code-Review%253C0 | 14:16 |
| gibi | that is all | 14:16 |
| mriedem | thanks | 14:16 |
| mriedem | cinder/nova things, that's me | 14:16 |
| mriedem | working on live migration (stvnoyes), swap volume (mriedem) and attach flows (jgriffith) | 14:16 |
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| mriedem | stvnoyes has a change up to use the new attachment flow with live migration, i just need to review it | 14:17 |
| mriedem | swap volume is still being sorted out on the cinder side i believe | 14:17 |
| jgriffith | mriedem ready to merge... just waiting on reviews | 14:17 |
| mriedem | there is a meeting in <2 hours for nova/cinder in #openstack-meeting-cp | 14:17 |
| mriedem | jgriffith: link? | 14:17 |
| jgriffith | getting it.. | 14:17 |
| jgriffith | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472786/ | 14:18 |
| patchbot | patch 472786 - cinder - Make migration completion work with Attach-V2 | 14:18 |
| jgriffith | sorry, it was between that and coffee... coffee won | 14:18 |
| mriedem | ok | 14:18 |
| mriedem | as it should | 14:18 |
| mriedem | #topic stuck reviews | 14:18 |
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| mriedem | nothing on the agenda | 14:18 |
| mriedem | anyone need to air grievances here? | 14:18 |
| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 14:19 |
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| mriedem | there was nothing on the agenda | 14:19 |
| mriedem | but, | 14:19 |
| * cdent still has no pony | 14:19 | |
| mriedem | if i were better prepared i would have something about this change | 14:19 |
| mriedem | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/472275/ Adds spec for migrating the documentation suite to project repos | 14:19 |
| patchbot | patch 472275 - docs-specs - Adds spec for migrating the documentation suite to... | 14:19 |
| mriedem | that's a cross-project thing that i haven't followed closely, | 14:19 |
| mriedem | but essentially it means moving guides/docs into the projects | 14:20 |
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| bauzas | is the docs team still using XML for documenting ? | 14:20 |
| mriedem | i still need to go through it myself, but bringing it up here so others are aware | 14:20 |
| mriedem | bauzas: no | 14:20 |
| mriedem | rst | 14:20 |
| bauzas | cool then, because I remember my early days of patching openstack with docs | 14:21 |
| mriedem | updating the manuals is pretty easy | 14:21 |
| mriedem | but now we're going to own them | 14:21 |
| bauzas | if that's RST, I'm fine then | 14:21 |
| bauzas | because we already have lots of docs using it | 14:21 |
| bauzas | in tree I mean | 14:21 |
| mriedem | there are other big things going on, like deciding on queens community goals | 14:21 |
| bauzas | I should review that doc spec then | 14:22 |
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| bauzas | I did committed a bit on it in the past | 14:22 |
| mriedem | this is all that's up for queens goals right now https://governance.openstack.org/tc/goals/queens/index.html | 14:22 |
| mriedem | which doesn't affect us as we don't have an in-tree tempest plugin | 14:22 |
| mriedem | there are other goals under review though | 14:23 |
| mriedem | i think that's it from me | 14:23 |
| mriedem | anyone else have anything for open discussion? | 14:23 |
| hferenc | o/ | 14:23 |
| mriedem | or need me to look into? | 14:23 |
| hferenc | just one small thing | 14:23 |
| hferenc | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/464002/ | 14:23 |
| patchbot | patch 464002 - nova - Add AggregateMultiTenancyIsolation filter tests | 14:23 |
| mriedem | hferenc: ok - a callback to an earlier meeting/discussion | 14:24 |
| hferenc | yes | 14:24 |
| bauzas | hferenc: in my pipe of reviews | 14:24 |
| hferenc | awesome | 14:24 |
| hferenc | thx | 14:24 |
| mriedem | bauzas beat me to saying bauzas' would love to review that | 14:24 |
| bauzas | thanks for that | 14:24 |
| mriedem | not sure why i pluralized that | 14:24 |
| mriedem | one bauzas is enough | 14:25 |
| bauzas | bauzas's square ? | 14:25 |
| bauzas | oh man | 14:25 |
| mriedem | ok let's call it a meeting then | 14:25 |
| mriedem | thanks everyone | 14:25 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 14:25 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 15 14:25:18 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:25 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-06-15-14.00.html | 14:25 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-06-15-14.00.txt | 14:25 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-06-15-14.00.log.html | 14:25 |
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| kevinbenton | hi all | 22:01 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 22:01 |
| ihrachys | o/ | 22:02 |
| armax | ahoy | 22:02 |
| kevinbenton | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 22:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Jun 15 22:02:22 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is kevinbenton. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 22:02 |
| kevinbenton | before we go through the list of RFEs, there is one i would like to address right away because the spec is already ready and it's pretty simple | 22:03 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1686035 | 22:03 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1686035 in neutron "[RFE] More detailed reporting of available QoS rules" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Slawek Kaplonski (slaweq) | 22:03 |
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| kevinbenton | this is an admin-api to disover qos capabilities of the drivers | 22:03 |
| mlavalle | there is even a patchset already, I believe | 22:04 |
| mlavalle | ah no, it is the spece | 22:04 |
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| ihrachys | ok. you feel good about adding discoverability just for qos without looking at broader picture? (we may have this kind of request for other backend specific features) | 22:05 |
| ihrachys | btw I am not saying that's not the right path | 22:05 |
| ihrachys | just want to make sure that we see how we may need to deal with the extension in the future if/when we implement discoverability for other stuff | 22:06 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: yeah, i think a broader capabilities API might be a good long-term goal | 22:06 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: but i think with our limited resources we can just do this one and then force a future one to generalize | 22:06 |
| kevinbenton | rather than trying to preemptively do it | 22:06 |
| ihrachys | yeah I guess we already took enough broad major projects on our plate, so we can't really deliver anything more general in next X cycles :) | 22:07 |
| ihrachys | so I am fine, it's a needed thing, and if slaweq_ will work on it, I think we can give it a go. | 22:07 |
| kevinbenton | ack | 22:08 |
| ihrachys | ofc pie in the sky would be better | 22:08 |
| mlavalle | ++ | 22:08 |
| amotoki | hi | 22:08 |
| kevinbenton | yeah, i was just thinking it's hard to envision up front capturing capabilities that aren't clear rule types like this | 22:08 |
| kevinbenton | amotoki, armax: thoughts? | 22:09 |
| * armax mulls over | 22:09 | |
| armax | yeah, let’s not boil the ocean | 22:10 |
| mlavalle | that's the right expression, LOL | 22:10 |
| kevinbenton | amotoki: any objection? | 22:11 |
| ihrachys | armax, yeah, let's leave THIS ocean as-is, we have several others in progress | 22:11 |
| amotoki | generally the discoverability like this is helpful. | 22:11 |
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| kevinbenton | ok, let's approve and maybe next cycle we can generalize a bit better once things like the enforcement framework rkukura was looking into have taken shape | 22:13 |
| kevinbenton | feature enforcement * | 22:13 |
| ihrachys | is it still on the radar, the Bob's thing? | 22:14 |
| ihrachys | haven't heard of it for awhile ;) | 22:14 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: i'm not sure. i haven't either. i'll have to sync up with him | 22:14 |
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| kevinbenton | ok | 22:15 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=Triaged&field.tag=rfe | 22:15 |
| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1491317 | 22:15 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1491317 in neutron "[RFE] Add TCP/UDP port forwarding extension to L3" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Reedip (reedip-banerjee) | 22:15 |
| mlavalle | reedip has already a spec up for review | 22:16 |
| mlavalle | https://review.openstack.org/470596 | 22:16 |
| patchbot | patch 470596 - neutron-specs - [WIP] Spec for Port Forwarding | 22:16 |
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| kevinbenton | so i'm okay with this if it's done as an extension in the l3 agent | 22:17 |
| armax | there’s very little detail about how this would work with DVR | 22:17 |
| armax | or L3 HA | 22:17 |
| mlavalle | at the time he is only proposing to implement the API | 22:18 |
| kevinbenton | armax: well L3 HA is easy | 22:18 |
| kevinbenton | armax: same as regular | 22:18 |
| kevinbenton | DVR is a problem though | 22:18 |
| kevinbenton | since this does say it applies to floating IPs | 22:18 |
| armax | my suggestion would be to have any approach to DVR to be stated upfront | 22:18 |
| armax | the last we need is another broken experience | 22:18 |
| kevinbenton | armax: so what do you suggest for RFE state? Approve it and have the feature depend on all of that being defined in the spec? | 22:20 |
| armax | if reedip has enough cycles to put the spec in good shape we can approve and work on the spec to make sure we agree on the steps forward | 22:21 |
| kevinbenton | armax: yeah, he reached out to me and said he has time to work on it | 22:21 |
| mlavalle | I agree, let him develop the spec and that's where we ask all the questions | 22:21 |
| ihrachys | + | 22:22 |
| kevinbenton | ok, i'll put a note that the RFE is approved but the feature won't make it unless we get a clear DVR integration story in teh spec | 22:22 |
| amotoki | we need to define the api behavior well on top of FIP API. +1 for spec. CVR impl including L3-HA will be straight-forward. | 22:22 |
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| armax | well, any routing flavor | 22:22 |
| armax | I appreciate that HA might be easy, but nothing is really easy about neutron | 22:22 |
| kevinbenton | i think API behavior will be easy to describe from what the expected external behavior is | 22:22 |
| armax | HA is easy and yet there was quite some work to get it to play well to l2pop | 22:23 |
| kevinbenton | armax: but this won't affect taht stuff | 22:23 |
| armax | the unexpected nuisance is always around the corner | 22:23 |
| kevinbenton | it's just on the existing floatingip | 22:23 |
| armax | that’s all I am trying to say | 22:23 |
| kevinbenton | the problem is DVR that i can see | 22:23 |
| armax | let’s try to think about these upfront | 22:23 |
| kevinbenton | how to get traffic from a compute node to another | 22:23 |
| brenda | It’s need to be discussed that if port-forwarding needed to be applied to router’s external gateway ip? | 22:23 |
| armax | and only by calling them out in the spec we can get more eyes on it and have more scrutiny | 22:24 |
| brenda | or the spec only focus on floating ips | 22:24 |
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| kevinbenton | i think we should probably limit to floating IP to start | 22:25 |
| kevinbenton | external gateway isn't normall visible to users` | 22:25 |
| kevinbenton | once we have floating IPs worked out, then we can consider gateway interfaces | 22:25 |
| brenda | yes, and there may be conflict when there are both snat and port-forwarding on external gateway | 22:25 |
| amotoki | external gateway address may be already used by other traffic and it leads to a bit complicated situation. | 22:26 |
| kevinbenton | yeah | 22:26 |
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| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1649417 | 22:28 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1649417 in neutron "RFE: Security group rule using address set" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Dongcan Ye (hellochosen) | 22:28 |
| mlavalle | so, this returned to us | 22:28 |
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| kevinbenton | yeah | 22:30 |
| kevinbenton | so it sounds like the workarounds work but are hacky | 22:30 |
| kevinbenton | which is sort of what I suspected | 22:30 |
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| mlavalle | we discussed the api one or two meetings ago | 22:31 |
| mlavalle | we talked about overloading remote id | 22:31 |
| kevinbenton | I just left a question about implementation resources | 22:31 |
| mlavalle | remote_group_id | 22:32 |
| kevinbenton | it kinda sounds like this is a request with nobody to implement it | 22:32 |
| kevinbenton | let's revisit once we know if we have someone to do the work | 22:32 |
| mlavalle | sounds good | 22:32 |
| kevinbenton | https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1653932 is still a TODO item for me | 22:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1653932 in neutron "[rfe] network router:external field not exported" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Kevin Benton (kevinbenton) | 22:33 |
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| kevinbenton | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1667877 | 22:33 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1667877 in neutron "[RFE] DVR support for Configuring Floatingips in Network Node or in the Compute Node based on Config option." [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:33 |
| armax | I am sorry but I can’t help myself but disklike this use case | 22:34 |
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| armax | it adds a layer of complexity that I found difficult to digest | 22:34 |
| kevinbenton | what do you mean you dislike the use case? | 22:35 |
| kevinbenton | you don't understand it? | 22:35 |
| kevinbenton | or you don't want to support it | 22:35 |
| armax | I have snowflakes | 22:36 |
| armax | hate | 22:36 |
| kevinbenton | Basically DVR offers two things | 22:36 |
| kevinbenton | direct east/west routing | 22:36 |
| armax | this sounds like have snowflakes in the DC | 22:36 |
| kevinbenton | and direct north/south routing | 22:36 |
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| kevinbenton | if you want east/west routing, you are forced to adopt the north/south | 22:36 |
| kevinbenton | and the north/south has a big deployment cost of getting the external network to every single compute node | 22:37 |
| armax | you want the cake and eat it too | 22:37 |
| armax | on a per-node basis | 22:37 |
| armax | I think that’s complexity for the sake of it | 22:37 |
| kevinbenton | no | 22:37 |
| kevinbenton | that's an implementation detail | 22:38 |
| kevinbenton | the use case i'm aware of driving this would be okay with it being a whole deployment-level thing | 22:38 |
| armax | what is the fundamental raltionale to get your external network to only a fraction of your computes? | 22:38 |
| amotoki | the second sentence sounds complicated... "Also proactively check the status of the agent on the destination node and if the agent health is down, then configure the Floatingip on the Network Node." | 22:38 |
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| kevinbenton | armax: you don't bring your external network to any of your compute nodes | 22:38 |
| kevinbenton | armax: it only goes to a rack of network nodes | 22:38 |
| armax | this makes the overall solution brittle and prone to weird failure modes that are more difficult to troubleshoot should the platform be homogenous | 22:38 |
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| armax | then use a HA router for N/S and a DVR router for E/W | 22:39 |
| kevinbenton | armax: so you tell tenants they just create two routers in their network? | 22:39 |
| armax | this mix-and-match approach will spell trouble | 22:40 |
| armax | first of all, we need to reconsider how we expose the router attribute to the regular tenant | 22:40 |
| kevinbenton | what router attribute? | 22:40 |
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| armax | I am actually having second thoughts that hiding HA and Distributed to end user was a good idea to begin with | 22:40 |
| kevinbenton | armax: what are you talking about? telling a tenant to create two routers and setup routes to point to one for E/W and one for N/S is a terrible solution | 22:41 |
| kevinbenton | armax: it requires tenants to know about infra limitations | 22:41 |
| armax | right, that’s a niche | 22:42 |
| armax | can you explain to me what limitation you see in bringing external connectivity to the compute layer? | 22:42 |
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| kevinbenton | l3 fabric that can't have VLANs extended across it | 22:43 |
| armax | if you are saying that you want distributed E/W without distributed DNAT that doesn’t spell out how it’s supposed to be implemented | 22:43 |
| armax | wouldn’t routed networks solve that? | 22:44 |
| kevinbenton | armax: nope. routed networks doesn't support BGP on external networks yet | 22:44 |
| armax | right, but once it does? | 22:45 |
| kevinbenton | then if the operator is willing to allow BGP into their network, yes | 22:45 |
| armax | that sounds like a much cleaner solution to me | 22:46 |
| armax | no added complexity in neutron’s control plane | 22:46 |
| kevinbenton | ha! | 22:46 |
| armax | win-win :) | 22:46 |
| kevinbenton | you're joking, right? | 22:46 |
| kevinbenton | how do you think the BGP prefix advertisement setup is going to get information from the server? | 22:47 |
| armax | that goes via well defined interfaces | 22:47 |
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| armax | you build on top of what you already have rather than ripping things out from whitin | 22:47 |
| armax | within | 22:47 |
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| kevinbenton | so we're going to make this use case dependent on vaporware? | 22:48 |
| armax | you and I probably won’t reach consensus within 5 of these meetings and we should probably take this offline, but I’d like to hear other people’s opinions | 22:48 |
| kevinbenton | vaporware that would force the operator to adopt BGP nonetheless | 22:49 |
| armax | no, make the vaporware a reality | 22:49 |
| armax | the simpler solution in the short term is not necessarily the one that’s gonna pay off in the long run | 22:51 |
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| ihrachys | btw I have no educated opinion hence silence :) | 22:51 |
| armax | LOL | 22:51 |
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| kevinbenton | armax: leave your comments on here https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1667877 | 22:51 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1667877 in neutron "[RFE] DVR support for Configuring Floatingips in Network Node or in the Compute Node based on Config option." [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:51 |
| armax | ihrachys: I thought you had your hands occupied with popcorns | 22:51 |
| ihrachys | armax, both | 22:51 |
| armax | I thought I already had | 22:51 |
| armax | my opinion of this hasn’t changed, but I’ll reference this nail biting conversation | 22:52 |
| ihrachys | I can enjoy a good fight without getting into details. fist to the left, punch to the right. | 22:52 |
| kevinbenton | armax: IMO a non-existent more complex feature is a pretty lame answer to this request | 22:52 |
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| armax | kevinbenton: right now I am simply stating that I’d rather this addressed cleanly without a lame configuration toggle that makes the fabric brittle and difficult to troubleshoot | 22:53 |
| armax | if a cleaner solution involved more work that currently doesn’t exist, so be it | 22:53 |
| armax | I am tired of promoting hacks over hacks | 22:53 |
| kevinbenton | armax: the 'cleaner' solution is dependent on a project not even tested in the neutron gate | 22:54 |
| armax | that’s not an excuse to encourage the stop-gap | 22:54 |
| kevinbenton | 'stop-gap' is just a term for a solution you don't like | 22:54 |
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| ihrachys | side note: a lot of things we rely on are not tested in gate, that's not a good argument | 22:54 |
| amotoki | can we use routed network as an external network for FIP? perhaps no? i think i don't understand the baseline. | 22:55 |
| kevinbenton | ihrachys: for normal neutron traffic operation? | 22:55 |
| armax | perhaps we can find a different solution that is between a dummy config option and boiling the ocean with BGP | 22:55 |
| armax | I am simply inviting people to think more carefully | 22:55 |
| kevinbenton | amotoki: armax is suggesting we extend support of routed networks to external networks with the using of the networking-dynamic-routing project | 22:55 |
| armax | kevinbenton: right now I am simply saying that I hate the proposed solution to the use case presented | 22:56 |
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| kevinbenton | amotoki: so the l3 agent in the rack can announce the addresses in that segment | 22:56 |
| amotoki | ah i see | 22:56 |
| armax | I am not 100% sold on the use case, but I guess I can get behind it | 22:56 |
| kevinbenton | amotoki: I think carl had put up a spec about it | 22:57 |
| mlavalle | and at this point we have an approved rfe, where the next step is to write a spec | 22:57 |
| kevinbenton | mlavalle: i'm not sure we even have it approved though | 22:57 |
| kevinbenton | it sounds like armax does not want to support splitting E/W from N/S in DVR | 22:58 |
| armax | not according to the proposal made, I suppose I should come up with a counterproposal | 22:58 |
| kevinbenton | sorry | 22:58 |
| kevinbenton | at time i think | 22:58 |
| amotoki | i think it is nice if we have a solution not specific to dvr. dvr-specific logic will leads to less folks familiar with that | 22:58 |
| armax | let me mull over this a bit, it’s not exactly high up on the list of my priorities lately | 22:58 |
| mlavalle | kevinbenton: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1667329 | 22:59 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1667329 in neutron "[RFE] Floating IP Subnets on Routed Provider Networks" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to John Davidge (john-davidge) | 22:59 |
| mlavalle | since John left, the agreement we made in the L3 subteam is to write the spec by the end of this cycle | 22:59 |
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| armax | for which I am terribly sorry | 22:59 |
| armax | :'( | 22:59 |
| mlavalle | and implement in the next | 22:59 |
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| armax | time check | 23:00 |
| armax | kevinbenton ^ | 23:00 |
| kevinbenton | mlavalle: ok. so routed external nets maybe in queens | 23:00 |
| kevinbenton | #endmeeting | 23:00 |
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| mlavalle | correct | 23:00 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Jun 15 23:00:24 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 23:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-06-15-22.02.html | 23:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-06-15-22.02.txt | 23:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-06-15-22.02.log.html | 23:00 |
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