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samPhi all for Masakari..04:00
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samP#startmeeting masakari04:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 25 04:00:43 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is samP. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.04:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.04:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'masakari'04:00
samPlets start Masakari meeting..04:00
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samPsagara: abhishek_k: hi04:01
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abhishek_khi samP04:01
samPLets start with Bugs04:01
abhishek_kTushar san will be 10 minutes late04:01
samP#topic Critical Bugs04:01
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samPany bugs to discuss?04:01
abhishek_klet me check quickly04:02
samPIf not let's jump in to Discussion. if any, you may address them in AOB later..04:03
samPabhishek_k: thanks04:03
abhishek_knothing sampath san04:03
Dinesh_Bhor_#link https://bugs.launchpad.net/masakari/+bug/1697629  This is not critical but improtant to fix. I have fix uploaded for it.04:03
openstackLaunchpad bug 1697629 in masakari "Should not delete host of another segment" [Undecided,In progress] - Assigned to Dinesh Bhor (dinesh-bhor)04:03
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samPDinesh_Bhor_: thanks..04:04
samPDinesh_Bhor_: I will review this. thanks04:04
Dinesh_Bhor_samP: thanks04:04
samP#topic Discussion points04:05
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samP(1) Application for become OpenStack official project04:05
samPI would like to propose masakari to become official OpenStack project04:06
samPI discussed this with Terry in OpenStack Days Tokyo in 7/20-2104:06
abhishek_kgreat news04:07
samPI will send a mail to openstack-dev ML and propose this to community. And send submit the patch to openstack governance repo04:07
samPrkmrHonjo: sorry, mistake s/Terry/Thierry04:08
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samPif anyone have any objections or comments, please raise now..04:08
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rkmrHonjoNo objection.04:09
samPI will share the patch before I submit it to governance, you will have another chance to put your comments.04:09
sagarano objections, I agree to propose that04:09
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Dinesh_Bhor_Great news, no objections04:09
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samPOK then, I will proceed. feel free to raise your comments any time on this..04:10
samP(2) Install guide document04:10
rkmrHonjoI participated in OpenStackDays Tokyo in 7/20-21.04:11
rkmrHonjoIn the event, some people said that they didn't know how to install masakari.04:11
rkmrHonjoSo I thought that current install procedure in README.rst is not kind enough. I'd like to improve it.04:11
rkmrHonjoDoes anyone do the same now?04:11
samPrkmrHonjo: thanks for the great presentation...\o/04:11
rkmrHonjosamP: thanks.04:11
samPrkmrHonjo: README.rst was a quick work done by abhishek_k (if Im remember correctly..)04:12
sagaraabhishek is writing a doc04:12
samPsagara: is that the API ref?04:13
samPabhishek_k: ^^04:13
rkmrHonjoabhishek_k: Are you writing install document now?04:13
abhishek_ksamP: yes04:13
abhishek_krkmrHonjo: yes04:13
samPOK then, if abhishek_k is not working on install docs, then we can split the work with rkmrHonjo04:13
tpatilWe should start writing installation guide for Ubuntu in the beginning04:14
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samPtpatil: agree04:14
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abhishek_ksamP: I am working on the same, and have some work done04:14
tpatilQuick question: should we also add information of how masakari-monitor will detect node failures?04:15
rkmrHonjoabhishek_k: ok. Will you write about monitor?04:15
samPabhishek_k: Thanks. Is there are any part you wants to split? or is it almost done?04:15
sagaraabhishek_k: could you write gerrit address here?04:15
abhishek_krkmrHonjo: you can procced with monitors04:16
abhishek_ksagara: its not on community gerrit yet04:16
abhishek_ksamP: I have covered related to masakari only04:16
samPabhishek_k: great..thanks04:17
rkmrHonjoabhishek_k: OK. I'll write about masakari-monitors installation.04:17
abhishek_krkmrHonjo: thanks04:17
samPOK, then, rkmrHonjo can proceed with discriminators04:17
samPrkmrHonjo: abhishek_k: Thank you..04:18
samP(3) Make nova "on_shared_storage" option configurable for evacuate API04:18
samPPatches are on gerrit for masakari side solution.04:19
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samPWe discussed about Jay's proposal last week. Any progress on that?04:20
Dinesh_Bhor_I have verified the solution Jay has suggested but it looks like it will not solve our problem: http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2017-July/013967.html04:21
tpatilthe main issue is resize revert won't work if the destination compute node is down04:22
tpatildestination compute node is the node on which the instance is resized04:22
tpatiland when this node is down, masakari will get notification to rescue the instances04:22
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tpatilDinesh has already replied to his proposal on the mailing list04:24
tpatilDinesh: is there any update post your reply?04:24
abhishek_knot yet04:24
Dinesh_Bhor_No not yet04:24
samPDinesh_Bhor_: tpatil: Thank you..04:24
samPLet's watch the progress on ML04:24
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samPand let's proceed with our temporary solution in masakari side for this..04:26
tpatilsamP: Dinesh has already proposed that patch04:26
samPtpatil: Dinesh_Bhor_: thanks04:27
Dinesh_Bhor_#link: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/469029/04:27
samPLet's review that and merge.04:27
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tpatilsamP: Sure04:27
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rkmrHonjosamP: ok.04:28
samP(4) Evacuates partially resized VMs04:28
samPIs this related to previous topic or new one?04:29
abhishek_ksamP: Its related to above topic04:29
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samPah.. my mistake..04:29
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samPabhishek_k: you are correct04:30
samPlet's move to next topic04:30
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samP(5) Remove ERROR instances from recovery targets when host failure happen04:30
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rkmrHonjoI sent my opinion about this topic to ML.04:30
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samPrkmrHonjo: I forget to replay that... sorry..04:30
rkmrHonjosamP: No problem. Please send your opinions to ML or this meeting.04:31
samPrkmrHonjo: sure.04:31
samP(6) Recovery method customization04:31
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samPI think we need to discuss with Mistral team with this..04:32
tpatilMistral already support Restful api to register new actions, but it requires operator to restart mistral services to get these newly action into effect04:33
abhishek_ksamP: we are working on a POC to register mistral actions on the fly04:33
samPabhishek_k: great..04:33
abhishek_kDinesh_Bhor has more update about it04:34
samPis better to discuss this with Mistral team before propose those changes?04:34
samPs/is/is it/04:34
tpatilDinesh: Is it possible to check if a particular action is already registered in Mistral?04:34
Dinesh_Bhor_tpatil: Yes it is possible04:35
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tpatilDinesh: Ok, great04:35
Dinesh_Bhor_There was a similar requirement in triple-O like masakari to add custom actions04:36
samPDo we need to unregister04:36
samPDo we need to unregister or delete actions?04:36
tpatilsamP: the idea is masakari will register these new actions, based on the yams file configured by the operator, if the action is not registered, register it. Then execute the workflow based on the notification type.04:36
Dinesh_Bhor_They have adopted below approach: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/282366/3004:36
tpatilfor each notification type, there will be a workflow04:36
Dinesh_Bhor_we can unregister those custom actions04:37
samPtpatil: got it.04:38
tpatilDinesh_Bhor: so we can add the action in masakari code itself04:38
Dinesh_Bhor_tpatil: yes04:38
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tpatilDinesh_Bhor : Let's finish this POC and then Abhishek can update specs accordingly04:39
Dinesh_Bhor_tpatil: ok04:39
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tpatilso there is no dependency on the mistral community ro add recovery action customization04:40
Dinesh_Bhor_yes I think so04:40
samPOK then. Please share the PoC and update the spec. I would like to process the spec04:41
tpatilsamP: Yes, we will take the POC forward and update you once it is done04:42
samPIf you wants to talk to Mistral team, please let me know. I will be there.04:42
Dinesh_Bhor_samP: sure, thanks04:43
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samP(7) Masakari Pike work items04:43
samPNot much progress in other work items.04:44
samPAh, Notifying API, need to review this..04:44
rkmrHonjosamP: Notifying is not API, that is RPC, log, etc. I replied to you on gerrit. Please check it.04:45
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samPrkmrHonjo: sure.. I will recheck that04:46
rkmrHonjosamP: thanks.04:46
samP(8) masakari-manage db purge04:46
tpatilspecs to be reviewed04:46
samP#link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473379/04:47
tpatil# link : https://review.openstack.org/#/c/473379/04:47
samPI will recheck this and approve it.. sorry for the delay.04:47
samP#topic AOB04:48
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samPAny other topics to discuss?04:48
samPI will be attending to Ops meetup in Mexico on 8/9-1004:49
samP#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MEX-ops-meetup04:49
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samPIn L62, OpenStack Resiliency is proposed04:50
samPThis session is about HA in openstack. please put your comments or questions on this.04:50
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samPAnd OpenStackExtreme Testing in L-7704:51
samPMain purpose of the sessions are, get the feedback from ops and share new features04:52
rkmrHonjosamP:Could I put comments even if I don't participate in the meetup?04:52
samPrkmrHonjo: sure.04:52
rkmrHonjosamP: I see.04:52
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Dinesh_Bhor_I just submitted one patch to deprecate the masakari_topic conf option. Please add your comments on the patch if you have any concerns on this: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/485119/04:52
rkmrHonjoDinesh_Bhor: Sure.04:53
tpatilDinesh_Bhor: I will review this patch tpday04:53
Dinesh_Bhor_samP: one thing to ask to sampath san, should I proceed with adding python-masakariclient to global-requirements?04:54
samPDinesh_Bhor_: yes. I fixed the versions and you may proceed now.04:55
Dinesh_Bhor_samP: ok thanks04:55
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samPDinesh_Bhor_: How about other projects? Are they not allowed to config RPC topics?04:56
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Dinesh_Bhor_samP: yes, they have removed all such config options04:57
samPDinesh_Bhor_: got it.04:57
samPI will review this. Thanks for the fix.04:57
Dinesh_Bhor_samP: thanks04:57
samPIf nothing else to discuss, lets finish the meeting.04:58
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samPPlease use #openstack-masakari or openstack-dev ML with [masakari] for further discussions..04:58
samPThank you all..04:58
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Dinesh_Bhor_thanks all04:59
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samPThans all.. bye04:59
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lucky__i have reported a blue print in cinder.11:24
lucky__i just want to know the next step for the same11:26
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lucky__what all things i need to put11:27
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igordcard#startmeeting network_common_flow_classifier14:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 25 14:00:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is igordcard. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.14:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'network_common_flow_classifier'14:00
igordcardhi all14:00
bcafarelhey igordcard14:00
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igordcardgive me 4 minutes, as I have to change rooms, thanks14:03
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bcafarelthat's a big building :)14:04
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igordcardalright, agenda:14:06
igordcard#topic CCF v0 - first wave of code14:06
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igordcardso the plan was to submit the code before pike-314:08
bcafarellike, in 2 days?14:08
igordcarddavid and thaynara are trimming a few rough edges and will submit the code by the end of the day14:09
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igordcardone thing it will not have is consistency with the API endpoints defined in the spec, yet14:09
igordcardbut most of the rest will be aligned already14:11
igordcarddavid, what other info have you got?14:12
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davidshaYa, It has the Ethernet, IPv4, IPv6, TCP and UDP. The problem with API inconsistency was that I made a resource for each one instead of specifying a type in a "Classification" resource.14:13
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igordcardso /classifications vs. /ipv4_classification and all the rest14:14
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davidshaThe other way around, but yes14:14
davidshaI'll submit the incorrect version just so people can see and test the general idea, and try to have the correct version up asap.14:15
igordcardyes, current state is latter example right?14:15
igordcardso most of the parts will be the same except how the resources are expressed in the API right?14:16
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davidshaYes, I'm not sure over internal database stuff will I make a generic "classification" object and make it the same as the API or actually store them in different tables based on type.14:19
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davidshaBut this probably isn't so important if everything will be retrieving classifications through the API rather than accessing it directly.14:20
igordcardin terms of tables the schema from the spec should work with both API approaches14:21
davidshaack, then it's fine as it is. It's just translate the new API on top of it.14:22
igordcardand then at the API you'll have a generic classification object14:22
igordcardor resource*14:22
davidshakk, cool.14:22
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igordcarddefinition validation will be handled by the plugin instead of the extension14:22
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igordcarddavidsha: after this patch we split in different patches with the different logical pieces14:24
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davidshaYa, we're planning on adding a little bit of validation. but just checking that for example an IPv6 address isn't passed into a IPv4 classification.14:24
igordcarddavidsha: when would those pieces be ready? (this is including the API change work)14:24
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igordcarddavidsha: cool14:24
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davidshaigordcard: We'll aim for the next meeting.14:27
igordcardalright davidsha14:27
igordcardmeanwhile with the patch from today we can start reviewing and discussing14:28
igordcardmoving on...14:28
igordcard#topic Open discussion14:28
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igordcardbcafarel's favourite part14:28
* bcafarel gets the coffee ready14:28
igordcardI'm actually literally going to get a coffee now14:28
davidshaIf there are any pastries could someone pass me one....14:29
davidshaAre there any Questions about v0 code?14:29
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bcafarelsadly none from my part, I did not even have the time to open the review :(14:30
bcafarelonly time to +1 igordcard's repo cleanup commit14:30
igordcardbcafarel: the code isn't there yet :p14:31
davidshaSomeone submitted an RFE for security groups and the neutron drivers recomended they adopt neutron classifier into security groups rather than extending the existing API.14:31
davidshaJust as a heads up.14:31
igordcarddavidsha: was just about to link it here14:31
openstackLaunchpad bug 1476527 in neutron "duplicate for #1690921 [RFE] Add common classifier resource" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Igor Duarte Cardoso (igordcard)14:31
igordcardgenerally the CCF looks enough to achieve this14:32
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bcafareligordcard: ah that's why :) (I was thinking about the current poc review)14:32
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igordcardbut depending on the very specifics of the use case there might a shortcoming or two14:32
bcafarelnice, that could mean more people here (with interest on security groups)14:33
igordcardso I'll conttinue to follow this discussion14:33
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igordcardbcafarel: yeah, more people from SG here would be good, to get some info about their plans and what it would take / and how long, to migrate to CCF14:34
davidshaigordcard: Did you take up the task to actually implement the consumption of classifications in security groups?14:34
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igordcardwe can also start having conversations with them, but the focus now is to wrap up v0 and then start doing incremental changes and open the window for enhancements14:35
igordcarddavidsha: no, why?14:35
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davidshaigordcard: you marked yourself an assignee14:36
igordcarddavidsha: that's the original common classifier RFE, you're looking at the wrong link14:37
davidshaigordcard: Oh, moving on!14:37
igordcardactually not sure whether that origianl RFE should be closed by now...14:38
igordcardihar created a blueprint specifically for the CCF some time ago:14:38
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igordcardbut armax marked the SG RFE as duplicate of the original CCF RFE14:39
igordcardprobably too early in the morning for you armax, but if you're there do you think the RFE should be closed?14:40
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armaxigordcard: which one?14:41
openstackLaunchpad bug 1476527 in neutron "[RFE] Add common classifier resource" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to Igor Duarte Cardoso (igordcard)14:41
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igordcardarmax: taking into account that this was created recently: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/common-classification-framework14:41
igordcardarmax: comment from RFE link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1476527/comments/3814:42
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armaxthe RFE would close as released when there’s something being released, no?14:42
igordcardarmax: makes sense, was just wondering if it was still needed with the blueprint created to track the progress14:43
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igordcardarmax: thank you; we are in open discussion, let us know if you have any question about ccf14:44
armaxthe state change happens on its own typically once there’s a patch that markes the bug to be closed14:45
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igordcardarmax: halright.. so the plan is to have an initial version soon, but the first consumable version only by Queens - that means the final Closes-Bug patch would be by Queens only correct?14:46
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armaxyeah, I would think so14:47
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igordcardarmax: perfect, thanks14:47
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igordcardany other questions?14:48
davidshaI'm good14:49
igordcardalright folks, this is all14:50
igordcardI actually got tea instead of coffee, but that should count too bcafarel?14:50
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igordcardbye all14:50
bcafareligordcard: I will think about it until next time14:50
igordcardokay bcafarel!14:50
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ihrachys#startmeeting neutron_ci16:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 25 16:00:52 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ihrachys. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.16:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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ihrachysjlibosva, o/16:01
ihrachys#topic Actions from prev week16:01
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ihrachys"jlibosva to report bugs for eventlet and maybe oslo.service for eventlet signal/timer issue with py3"16:01
ihrachysjlibosva, I recollect you reported a bug against oslo.service16:01
jlibosvathere was one reported by Victor IIRC16:02
openstackLaunchpad bug 1705047 in oslo.service "Race condition in signal handling on Python 3" [Undecided,New]16:02
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jlibosvathat one16:02
ihrachyswas one reported for eventlet? or it's not really a bug for them?16:02
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jlibosvaI think he was working on a fix for eventlet but he sent me only this one, lemme check16:03
ihrachyswhat's his irc nick?16:03
jlibosvaI don't see any eventlet issues on github, seems like that's their bugtracker16:03
jlibosvavstinner is his irc nick16:04
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ihrachyswell if it's oslo.service so be it16:05
ihrachysI assume we will see a fix in the near future16:05
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ihrachysbut we may need to track it so that we can close it in pike16:05
jlibosvawould be good if that'd go to oslo service16:06
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ihrachysyeah, no new eventlet requirement16:06
ihrachyshaleyb, heya16:06
ihrachysok, next item was "jlibosva to post patch splitting OVN from OvsVenvFixture"16:06
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jlibosvaI did but it's a WIP - https://review.openstack.org/#/c/484874/16:06
jlibosvafailing tests16:06
jlibosvaoh, I see I pushed wrong patch :)16:07
jlibosvain comments there16:07
jlibosvaanyway, there is still work to be done there16:07
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haleybhi there16:07
ihrachysjlibosva, do you need reviews at this point, or you want to spin on it?16:08
jlibosvaihrachys: no reviews needed16:08
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ihrachysnext was "ihrachys to look at why fullstack switch to rootwrap/d-g broke some test cases"16:08
ihrachysyou think I did this time? not in a slightest.16:09
ihrachysand seems like I am swamped for this week too16:09
ihrachysso if someone would like to take a look, feel free to take over16:09
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ihrachysnext was "haleyb to collect feedback of key contributors on multinode-by-default patch"16:09
ihrachyshaleyb, what's the result of the thread on switching to multinode grenade for integrated gate?16:10
haleybthere weren't many comments16:10
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ihrachysgeneral stance seems to be "let's try it and see"?16:11
haleybi will ping the QA PTL to make sure they don't have a problem, tihnk it's andreaf16:11
haleybotherwise we'll see what happens :)16:11
ihrachysone question I had that I am not clear is whether we want to get rid of single node coverage for grenade repo itself16:12
ihrachysthere may be a reason to keep it working for cases like local reproduction16:12
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ihrachysnot sure who is responsible for grenade to make this call16:13
haleybi can leave it in the check and gate queues there16:13
ihrachyshaleyb, that would be definitely on safe side. they can decide to clean up on their own16:13
haleybthat might fall under qa as well, i'll find out16:14
ihrachys#action haleyb to reach out to QA PTL about switching grenade integrated gate to multinode16:14
ihrachysnext item was "jlibosva to send a debug patch for random test runner murders, and recheck, recheck, recheck"16:14
ihrachysthis is in relation to functional test timeouts we saw the prev weeks16:14
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jlibosvaI sent out one patch today16:14
ihrachysto recap, the current failures were triaged and classified in https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-functional-gate-failures-july16:14
jlibosvaihrachys: I also re-shuffled the above, most of the firewall failures were caused by test executor kill16:15
ihrachysyou mean this? https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487065/2/tools/kill.sh16:15
jlibosvafortunately, we do log all execute() calls. unfortunately, there is no call having pid of killed executor16:16
jlibosvaihrachys: yes, that one16:16
* haleyb is having irc lag if he seems slow16:16
jlibosvaso I thought I'll log each call to kill bin16:16
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jlibosvawhich won't catch calls like os.kill() from python but at least it's something16:16
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ihrachysjlibosva, cool. btw we could probably use the -index.txt log file to get messages from all tests executed around the Killed message16:17
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ihrachysmaybe that is easier to spot some other thread calling kill16:17
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ihrachysthough the number of messages there may be hard to digest16:17
ihrachysjlibosva, so the plan now is to recheck the patch until it hits the timeout?16:18
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jlibosvaprobably, maybe if it won't cause much issues, we could merge it and wait for failure16:18
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ihrachyslet's review the state next week16:19
ihrachys#action jlibosva to recheck the tools/kill.sh patch until it hits timeout and report back16:19
ihrachysthat's all there is regarding action items16:20
ihrachys#topic Grafana16:20
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ihrachyshaleyb, I see in grenade gate queue, dvr flavour is nuts16:20
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ihrachysregular at 0% but dvr is 30%?16:21
ihrachysit's the job we propose for the integrated gate right?16:21
ihrachysthe chart: http://grafana.openstack.org/dashboard/db/neutron-failure-rate?panelId=6&fullscreen16:21
haleybihrachys: yes, since 00 GMT it seems, i'll look16:22
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ihrachys#action haleyb to look at why dvr grenade flavour surged to 30% failure rate comparing to 0% for other grenades16:22
ihrachysas for non-voting jobs...16:24
ihrachysthis is tempest check queue chart16:24
ihrachyswe have scenarios at ~100% for a long time16:24
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ihrachysjlibosva, do we have grasp as to what happens there still?16:24
haleybthe dvr-ha-multinode check job is also nuts16:24
ihrachysis it same trunk connectivity?16:24
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jlibosvaihrachys: the migrations are broken - from legacy to ha or alike16:24
ihrachyshaleyb, yep. the fact it's at ~100% is reassuring though16:25
ihrachyshaleyb, should be easy to reproduce16:25
jlibosvaalso I saw one failure related to trunk port lifecycle, which seemed like port status is not updated16:25
jlibosvaand then there is east_west fip test that's also failing16:25
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ihrachysjlibosva, http://logs.openstack.org/22/410422/24/check/gate-tempest-dsvm-neutron-dvr-multinode-scenario-ubuntu-xenial-nv/67e24b4/console.html#_2017-07-24_23_58_32_020051 seems like a good example of migration breakage?16:26
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ihrachysjlibosva, do you think it makes sense to start with classifying failures? and then we could send an email to openstack-dev@ asking for help?16:27
ihrachysofc we would need to report bugs first16:27
ihrachysI am afraid this job is not going anywhere for quite some time, and it may repeat the story of fullstack and friends never getting to voting16:28
jlibosvayeah, that sounds like a good plan. I can look at it on Friday16:28
ihrachysjlibosva, cooool16:28
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ihrachys#action jlibosva to classify current scenario failures and send email to openstack-dev@ asking for help16:28
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ihrachys#action haleyb to check why dvr-ha job is at ~100% failure rate16:28
* ihrachys feels like a jerk giving out tasks to innocent people16:29
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jlibosvawe're not innocent, we're developers doing qe :)16:29
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ihrachysok, looking at other charts, there is probably nothing serious there except what we covered16:30
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jlibosvathe migration tests might be actually uncovering legitimate bugs16:30
ihrachysjlibosva, would be interesting to play with logstash to see when it started. if we can spot time, we can find the offender easily.16:31
ihrachysit should have the failure in its scenario log16:31
jlibosvaI don't think we have enough data to do so, it's been already a while16:31
ihrachysoh ok16:31
jlibosvaand we have logstash for a week or so, no?16:31
ihrachysyeah, something like 1-2 week16:32
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ihrachysthey seem to be bloated with logs lately (hence the push to consolidate jobs)16:32
ihrachys#topic Fullstack isolation16:32
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jlibosvayeah, as per logstash, it started on 17th :)16:32
ihrachysjlibosva, we discussed that topic the last time, was there any progress since then?16:32
jlibosvaunfortunately not, I just have a plan in my had that I need to implement16:33
ihrachysok no rush16:33
ihrachys#topic Open discussion16:33
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jlibosvaI wanted to also introduce something like network description but today I decided I'll defer it and use the current bridges16:33
ihrachysanything else to discuss?16:33
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jlibosvaabout the multinode-dvr running neutron tests -16:34
jlibosvahow about adding some skipping to those tests that are reproducible on local environments16:34
jlibosvaand then solve those issues with lower priority16:34
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jlibosvaif there are any like that16:34
ihrachysjlibosva, what is the job you refer to? the scenario for migration failures?16:34
jlibosvayeah, if they are consistent16:35
jlibosvaI didn't check tho. I checked that east_west tests are not reproducible easily, at least not on my env16:35
ihrachysif they are consistent; if we reported bugs; and if we asked for help, yes I think we can do that16:35
ihrachysprobably on gate level, not tempest plugin16:35
ihrachysso that downstream consumers suffer :p16:35
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ihrachysand other plugins don't lose coverage16:36
jlibosvamakes sense, I was thinking on tempest plugin but gate is better16:36
jlibosvathat's all from me16:36
ihrachysI think midonet actively runs tests from our tree16:36
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haleybluckily that job is non-voting16:36
jlibosvathat's a question, if it would be voting, it would get more attention and priority :D16:37
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ihrachysyeah, we should target voting even if it means loosing some coverage along the way. voting with less tests is more than non-voting with plenty of tests no one cares16:37
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ihrachysok I think we can close the meeting16:38
ihrachysthanks folks16:38
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openstackMeeting ended Tue Jul 25 16:38:30 2017 UTC.  Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4)16:38
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ihrachystake your 22 minutes!16:38
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jlibosvathanks, bye16:38
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lbragstad#startmeeting keystone18:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 25 18:00:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is lbragstad. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.18:00
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lbragstadping ayoung, breton, cmurphy, dstanek, edmondsw, gagehugo, henrynash, hrybacki, knikolla, lamt, lbragstad, lwanderley, notmorgan, rderose, rodrigods, samueldmq, spilla, aselius, dpar18:00
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lbragstad#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-weekly-meeting18:00
lbragstadagenda ^18:00
samueldmqhi o/18:00
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lbragstad#topic announcements: feature status18:01
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lbragstad#link https://blueprints.launchpad.net/keystone/pike18:02
lbragstadthis week is the deadline for all feature work18:02
lbragstadthe biggest changes we have to go through is the project tags implementation18:02
lbragstadit looks like most of that is getting broken into smaller patch sets though18:03
rodrigodsis everything in the same topic?18:03
rodrigodson gerrit, i mean18:03
gagehugoshould be18:03
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rodrigodsthanks gagehugo18:03
samueldmqlbragstad: gagehugo I added a topic at the end to talk a bit on how we implement that18:04
samueldmqI have some suggestions/questions. would be great to discuss here18:04
gagehugosounds good18:04
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lbragstadI'll propose app creds and extend user API to support federated attributes to backlog18:05
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* samueldmq nods18:05
samueldmqthat makes sense to me18:06
lbragstad#info application credentials will be bumped to Queens18:06
lbragstad#info extending the user API to support federated attributes will be bumped to Queens18:06
lbragstad#topic announcements: bugs18:06
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lbragstadby EOW we're going to be in full bug mode18:07
lbragstad#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/keystone-pike-bugs18:07
lbragstadi'm going through all bugs opened in PIke and prioritizing accordingly18:07
lbragstadby the end of today - i should have a list of things targeted to pike-rc118:08
lbragstadout target week for rc1 is going to be August 11th18:08
lbragstadwhich is about 3 weeks away18:08
lbragstad#topic default roles for domains18:09
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lbragstaddpar o/18:09
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lbragstadthis was on our agenda last week too18:09
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lbragstadwe'll circle back if dpar shows up18:10
lbragstad#topic project tags18:10
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lbragstadsamueldmq: gagehugo o/18:10
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samueldmqso, I was discussing a few points with gagehugo (and others involved)18:10
samueldmqregarding the current implementation18:10
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samueldmq1) do we really need separate policies for the project-tags operations?18:10
samueldmqwhy not re-use the project's ones ? same rule of project_update for updating tags, for examples18:11
knikollaprobably we do.18:11
samueldmqsince tags IS an attribute of a project18:11
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samueldmqwe don't control any other attribute differently18:12
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samueldmqwhy are tags that special?18:12
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gagehugoare there other attributes that have their own urls?18:12
lbragstadi don't think so18:13
knikollai generally like the granularity.18:13
lbragstadeventually it would be great to be more granular18:13
lbragstadbut we have so much work todo before we get to that point18:13
knikollaalso allows special project management software to be tied in without being given the keys to the cloud.18:13
gagehugothe current implementation makes the new rules default to what projects is18:13
gagehugothe naming of that rule_project_admin_required isn't very good18:14
samueldmqI'd go for re-using what we have (and being consistent with the rest of the attributes)18:14
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gagehugowe would have to hack the protector then wouldn't we to do something special for project tags?18:14
samueldmqwhen we get to better policies (more granular), I hope we will be able to be more granular and check on the attributes18:14
lbragstadmaybe a better question is - how hard would it be to break that out later and have project tags be separate?18:14
knikollaif we're eventually going to more granular policies, why not start now with this?18:15
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gagehugoknikolla that's what we thought18:15
gagehugothis will probably have to be changed in the future18:15
gagehugoit is weird though, tags is an attribute18:15
samueldmqknikolla: would be great to figure out how we will do that18:16
samueldmqmaybe we will have the same policy, but will allow to check on different attributes within the policy rule18:16
gagehugobut it stands on it's own behind the scenes18:16
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samueldmqI wouldnt change that all of a sudden.18:16
samueldmqand as pointed out by lbragstad, we can always expand that into several rules later18:16
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samueldmqif that's what we want, and how we decide to go for more granular access18:17
lbragstadif we're restrictive to start out, it's easy to loosen the constraint later18:17
samueldmqcan you imagine if we start adding new policy rules per resource'attribute18:17
knikollado you see other use cases for project attributes? and something that we will add often?18:17
samueldmqig you think from the API point of view, tags is just a regular attribute of projects18:18
knikollai thought that was specifically shut down previously18:18
samueldmqat least this is how I see them18:18
knikollaand tags was the most people agreed to add to projects18:18
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samueldmqI am not disagreeing on adding tags to projects18:19
gagehugoso we can hack in to have tags follow the project policy, then fix it later.  Or just create the rules now and be different from other attributes?18:19
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samueldmqif we make it special/different, there is no way to get back from that.18:19
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samueldmqspecially because we dont have a deprecation workflow for policy rules yet18:20
lbragstadgagehugo: your project admins are going to be the ones using project tags, right?18:20
samueldmqstarting how we do it nowadays, and making more granular (as we discover how to do that ) would be better imo18:20
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lbragstadgagehugo: you don't need to have a separate role defined to manage project tags?18:20
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gagehugolbragstad ours will be yes, others might not?18:21
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lbragstadif you reuse the project policies, does that require hacking the protected method?18:21
gagehugoThat's what it looks like18:21
gagehugowill have to make a special case for if tags, enforce project policy18:22
lbragstadI'd be inclined to separate the policies specific to get around having a hack for it18:22
samueldmqgagehugo: all the new APIs for CRUDing policies are in accordance of what nova did, correct?18:22
gagehugosamueldmq for the most part yes18:22
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lbragstaddoes nova has a separate policy for tags?18:23
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samueldmqgagehugo: the part of having separate APIs for handling the tags (adding,removing) within resources...18:23
lbragstadi guess it doesn't really make much sense to have operators deal with tag policies in one project and not in another18:23
samueldmqlbragstad: that is a good question18:23
gagehugolbragstad yes18:24
lbragstadthey do have a separate policy for tags?18:24
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lbragstadah ha18:24
lbragstadwell - i suppose that's another reason to split it out into it's own policy (for consistency)18:25
gagehugoplus separate policies seemed easier than hacking the protector18:25
gagehugowhich I do agree with samueldmq that it is weird18:25
gagehugosince the other attributes don't have them (yet?)18:25
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lbragstadshould we vote?18:26
lbragstador do we have consensus18:26
samueldmqI am okay with adding new policies now18:26
samueldmqfor consistency with nova18:26
lbragstadyeah - same here18:26
samueldmqwould be great to try to use the same names they use18:27
lbragstadanyone else have objections to the approach?18:27
samueldmqor similar ones for the tags operations18:27
samueldmqso that it's not confusing to operators18:27
gagehugosamueldmq can def take a look18:27
samueldmqand let's add exactly the same operations on tags18:27
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samueldmqI guess we dont need to do more than they do18:27
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lbragstadgagehugo: cool - anything else?18:28
samueldmqI think I have somehting else18:28
samueldmqjust one more detail18:28
lbragstadsamueldmq: go for it18:28
samueldmqwhy don;t we just re-use the project manager/drivers for handling the tags18:28
samueldmqmaybe the manager, the driver needs to be separate as we have a different table?18:29
samueldmqthat's an idea, of course would like to get some views on it18:29
samueldmqfor the sake of simplifying the implementation18:29
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samueldmqas of today, they don't share anything than the directory the code is in18:30
lbragstadI need to review that change18:30
samueldmqnevermind me. I guess it's sane to go for it as it is organized right now18:30
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samueldmqand if we want to refactor we can do tht18:30
samueldmqit isn't a terrible amount of code18:31
gagehugosamueldmq it uses the same manager doesn't it?18:31
lbragstadyeah - we should be able to refactor it later, we've done that with the project and domain controllers/managers in the past18:31
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samueldmqlbragstad: ++18:31
samueldmqgagehugo: hmm I think so. maybe we could use the same driver?18:31
samueldmqI don't think there is a rule that says 1 driver - 1 table. I'd go 1 driver 1 entity.18:32
samueldmqand in this case the project is split in more than one table18:32
samueldmqbut as I said, anyways. this is not the most important thing now18:32
samueldmqthe API/policy behavior is the key18:32
lbragstadlet's shoot to follow the convention nova set18:32
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knikollai gave a quick look and it seems sensible the way it's organized.18:33
lbragstadwith server tags18:33
samueldmqlbragstad: ++18:33
lbragstadanything else related to project tags?18:33
samueldmqgagehugo said he'll look at it and make us consistent18:33
samueldmqlbragstad: not from me, thanka18:33
lbragstad#topic open discussion18:33
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lbragstadfloor is open18:33
gagehugoyou can always ping me too about questions, I will be around18:33
gagehugoor lamt18:34
lbragstadi'll be reviewing that stuff today18:34
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samueldmqsure, I saw lamt has been updating some of those patches too18:34
samueldmqlbragstad: I will be going through the nova api-docs and make sure our implementation is consistent18:35
samueldmqthat should be enough18:35
lbragstadworks for me18:35
lbragstadlooks like we can get some time back before office hours starts18:35
lbragstadthanks for coming!18:36
knikollaplease don't strive for consistency at the expense of other things.18:36
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lbragstadknikolla: sorry - totally didn't mean to cut you off there18:36
knikollalbragstad: nah no worries.18:36
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fungiinfra team, let's meet!19:00
eumel8hello :)19:00
fungithis week we have action items assigned to and topics proposed by ianw, fungi, AJaeger and eumel819:00
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AJaegerN'abend, eumel819:01
* fungi finds deutsche contractions intriguing19:01
fungii'll give everyone another minute to find the meeting19:02
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fungiwell, i guess we can go ahead and get started19:02
fungi#startmeeting infra19:03
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 25 19:03:01 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is fungi. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.19:03
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.19:03
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'infra'19:03
fungi#link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/InfraTeamMeeting#Agenda_for_next_meeting19:03
fungi#topic Announcements19:03
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fungi#info Seeking volunteers to help write and/or present a 20-minute Infra team update at the Sydney, AU summit this November19:03
fungii gave the foundation coordinator for the project updates a heads up to count infra in this time19:03
fungi#info Don't forget to register for the PTG if you're planning to attend19:03
fungi#link https://www.openstack.org/ptg/  PTG September 11-15 in Denver, CO, USA19:03
pabelangerI started making some notes locally, I can push them up to an etherpad19:03
fungi#link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/infra-ptg-queens Infra planning pad for Queens PTG in Denver19:03
* jeblair sneaks in19:03
* mordred says hi19:04
fungithanks pabelanger!19:04
fungias always, feel free to hit me up with announcements you want included in future meetings19:04
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fungi#topic Actions from last meeting19:04
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fungi#link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/infra/2017/infra.2017-07-18-19.03.html Minutes from last meeting19:04
fungiianw abandon pholio spec19:04
fungii approved that earlier today19:04
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fungilemme get a link19:04
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fungi#link https://review.openstack.org/486794 Abandon pholio spec19:05
* fungi apologized for only being semi-prepared19:05
fungier, apologizes19:05
fungi#action fungi get switchport counts for infra-cloud19:05
fungii'm still blocked on getting the details back from hpe19:06
fungifungi start an ML thread on cleaning up logging for dead or mostly-dead channels19:06
fungi#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-July/119906.html Cleaning up inactive meetbot channels19:06
fungithat's progressing nicely19:07
AJaegerfungi, will you propose a change for the changes that nobody does directly?19:07
fungiAJaeger: yes, probably in another week-ish19:07
fungigiving people a chance to find out and object19:07
fungistill looking for people to pop into some of those channels and give them a heads up about the discussion too, as my message to the ml indicated19:08
fungiwe've got a couple channel removals proposed (i merged one late friday) and a couple channel additions waiting to take their place in the system-config repo19:08
AJaegerunderstood, thanks19:08
fungifungi start a ML thread on continuing to operate http://apps.openstack.org/19:09
fungi#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-operators/2017-July/013965.html Taking down the App Catalog (apps.openstack.org)19:09
fungiafter digging back into the governance change the tc approved, it actually stated we would stop publishing that site, so i think we have grounds to take it offline immediately but i figured i'd give to the end of the month19:10
fungialso that reminded me it's been marked "beta" this entire time19:10
fungiso hopefully nobody's surprised if it goes away without a placeholder explaining what happened to it19:10
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fungibut regardless, between the commit message in the governance change and my announcement to the ops ml, the cause should be reasonably discoverable19:11
jeblairmore like "google" beta than "apple" beta19:11
fungimore like "beta" radiation19:11
fungi#topic Specs approval19:12
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fungiwe don't seem to have anything new up this week, though AJaeger has a general topic coming up which is currently a wip spec (but we can discuss that in a few minutes)19:12
fungialso, as mentioned in the action items portion of our meeting, i did merge ianw's specs change (linked there) to officially abandon the pholio spec19:13
fungi#topic Priority Efforts19:13
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fungidid anybody have any important notes or blockers to bring up for any of our priority efforts?19:14
fungididn't see any on the agenda19:14
clarkbthe gerrit-upgrade topic has a couple changes to deal with some gerrit database things we discovered19:14
fungi#topic Priority Efforts - Gerrit 2.13 Upgrade (clarkb)19:14
clarkbthe one against puppet-gerrit will likely need supervision and a review.openstack.org gerrit service restart19:14
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clarkbjust so that we don't get caught later with any potential problems wondering what changed19:14
clarkb(it is expected to be a noop though)19:14
fungi#link https://review.openstack.org/487156 Explicitly enable utf8 on jdbc connection url19:15
fungithat one?19:15
fungicool. on a related note, we talked about potentially upgrading our trove instances so that we can support full-length utf-8 codepoints19:16
fungias a separate maintenance likely, though i suppose we could do that before the 2.13 upgrade if we wanted19:16
fungishould be relatively brief19:17
fungiif anybody's eager to dig into that19:17
clarkbI've also started the ground work for running zuul on review-dev.o.o to test against gerrit 2.13. For zuulv3 I expect that I need python3 at this point? does it need to be 3.5 for feature reasons? also is bubblewrap required if just running noop jobs?19:17
pabelangeryou can use nullwrapper driver to skip bubblewrap19:18
clarkbpabelanger: does it even get that far if using noop though? I guess thats the question19:18
clarkbis "noop" still magical like it was in 2.5?19:18
pabelangerclarkb: Ya, it should be19:18
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clarkbreview-dev has python3.4 not 3.5 so if I need 3.5 I'll need to run this elsewhere. Was hoping to run it on a proper infra instance just so that others could poke at it but can also run locally easily enough19:19
pabelangerwe still have zuulv3-dev running too, maybe you can just use that19:20
mordredclarkb: I don't know that we know if 3.5 is needed v 3.419:20
pabelangerHmm, that is trusty I think19:20
fungii would be surprised if it didn't work with 3.4, but yeah i also don't know if anyone's tried that19:20
mordredclarkb: 3.4 is not tested though ... so yeah19:20
fungianything else to cover on this topic?19:20
clarkbnope I think next week I should have a lot more info19:21
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fungithanks clarkb!19:21
fungi#topic Zuul v3: Consistent Job Names (AJaeger)19:21
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mordredoh crap - I mean to read thatmore19:21
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Shrewsmordred: clarkb: the only thing i know zuulv3 needs py 3.5 for is zuul-web for the async code19:22
fungi#link https://review.openstack.org/386717 "Zuul v3: Consistent Job Names" spec19:22
AJaegerI've put up a job naming proposal for Zuulv3 jobs, see https://review.openstack.org/#/c/386717/ .  It will be a guideance for teams on how to name the jobs.19:22
AJaegerMy questions for discussion are:19:22
AJaeger1) Is it worth persuing this further? Do we want something like this?19:22
AJaeger2) Where should this document life? infra-specs, infra-manual, or anywhere else?19:22
AJaeger3) What are next steps?19:22
AJaegerI don't want to discuss the items in the document, let's do that in gerrit - or after addressing the three questions above, please.19:22
jeblairShrews, mordred, clarkb: (yeah, i think 3.4 is worth a try for this purpose)19:22
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clarkbjeblair: Shrews noted thanks19:23
jeblair2: infra-manual maybe?19:23
pabelangerAJaeger: if we want to do it, we should land it soon. I'd like to start bringing new zuulv3 online this week for shade19:23
fungiyeah, so probably easiest first to tackle the question of whether recommendations on how jobs should be named is suitable as a spec, or should be a living document like an infra-manuals (sub)section19:23
* AJaeger can do it quickly.19:23
AJaegerIf we agree on direction, we can merge - and iterate later...19:23
jeblair1: probably -- i don't know that i care about too much in detail, but it's worth noting that job names are a common and can be defined in any of 1800 git repos, so at least *some* guidance for a project of openstack's size is necessary i think19:24
AJaegerseparate infra-manual page would be my other idea19:24
mordredthe doc seems pretty solid to me - there'sa  question in there that jeblair might want to respond to19:24
jeblairi'll take a look19:24
AJaegeryes, pabelanger added something today during his review19:24
mordredjeblair, AJaeger: yah- we should maybe add a note about folks adding jobs in their own repo potentially prefixing them with something to avoid name clashes or something19:25
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pabelanger+1 to name clashes19:25
persiaWhere prefix == repo name?19:25
mordredlike - creating a job called "test-mysql" in the nova repo is probably bad19:25
fungiso my take on it is... if it's a one-time plan to rename jobs then that makes sense in a sepc. if it's a reference document with recommendations for reviewers or authors of jobs then that's more suitable for the infra manual19:25
mordredpersia: yah - "nova-test-mysql" would likely be a better choice for sucha job19:25
mordredfungi: I think it's a eference document with recommendations for reviewers or authors of jobs19:26
pabelangeropenstack should be reserved for -infra too19:26
jeblairfungi, AJaeger: then for question 3 -- maybe we should wind down the conversation in the spec, and then move it to -manual without merging the spec?19:26
jeblairlike, let's address any outstanding questions there, then move19:26
fungispecs are more of a vehicle for tracking some specific work with a defined start and end condition. at some point the spec reaches implementation or abandonment19:27
AJaegerjeblair: that approach works for me.19:27
fungiso yes, i'm in favor of a change of venue to the infra-manual repo19:27
fungias a living document of job naming recommendations19:28
fungiand/or reviewing criteria19:28
AJaegeragreed, fungi19:28
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fungi#agreed Let's put recommendations for creating and reviewing jobs (including their names) in the Infra Manual19:28
fungioptionally, review criteria could belong in the config repo readme19:29
AJaegerSo, next steps: I'll update based on comments here, leave it for two days for review, adress comments and move to infra-manual ?19:29
fungiAJaeger: that sounds like a great plan--thanks!19:29
* AJaeger will ping everybody after update - and we can iterate further after merge for anything we miss19:30
fungii think the manuals review process is likely better suited and has less overhead than the specs review and approval process (which is bottlenecked on me, in particular(19:30
AJaegerok, I'm fine closing the topic and handing over to eumel819:31
fungi#topic Installation of translation check site with Openstack-Ansible (eumel8)19:31
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eumel8yeah, thx. We're just finished with developement of the new translation check site based on openstack ansible.19:31
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fungi#link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/infra-specs/tree/specs/translation_check_site.rst "Provide a translation check site for translators" spec19:31
eumel8now it's time to bring up the new server with this stuff19:32
fungi#link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-infra/2017-July/005494.html "Translations-test site" ML thread19:32
eumel8my question would be how to proceed19:32
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fungidoes this get deployed on a single server and then update itself periodically?19:33
fungiand what do the deployment steps look like?19:33
eumel8I have an old proposal based on puppet translate module: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/276466/19:34
fungii expect we need a puppet module or at least a new class in the openstack_project module which acts as a wrapper around the deployment commands so that we can redeploy it with our server launch scripts19:34
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eumel8I would write a new one for osa19:34
fungi#link https://review.openstack.org/276466 Manifest for configuration translation checksite19:34
eumel8yes, thats right, fungi19:35
fungiokay, so looks like we already have a module:19:35
fungi#link https://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/puppet-translation_checksite19:35
fungiso i suppose you could mostly gut the manifests/init.pp for that and turn it into a wrapper for whatever the setup is for your cronjobs and getting ansible installed and whatnot?19:36
ianwooohh, right, this was the prior devstack approach, i remember now19:37
eumel8installation steps are here: #link https://github.com/eumel8/translation_checksite/blob/aio/install.sh#L8-L4519:37
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eumel8maybe there is no module necessary19:37
clarkbyou can likely get away with just a simple server set up via puppet in system-config then run osa out of puppetmaster cron like we run our other ansible stuff19:38
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clarkbbasically just use puppet for getting our base server stuff in place for sysadmin access, exim setup, package updates19:39
pabelangeragree, looks like basic server gets mostly everything19:39
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pabelangerthen just running openstack-ansible gate script19:39
eumel8clarkb: sounds good, you have an example?19:39
clarkbeumel8: I am not sure if we have any examples of that19:39
pabelangerwe run cloud-launcher and infracloud out of cront today19:40
fungilooks like the zanata_sync cronjob wants to refresh horizon twice an huor?19:40
fungier, twice an hour19:40
eumel8yes, fungi19:40
fungiwhich is ~ the cadence for our ansible update cycles anyway19:40
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fungiand i guess the creates parameter to the install_aio exec is meant to make sure it only runs once after the server is created?19:42
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pabelangershould we worry about OSA getting installed into our control plane? It is possible they could access something private?19:43
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pabelangerhieradata for example19:43
clarkbpabelanger: ya there is an implicit trust of the ansible that is executing on the puppetmaster19:44
fungido we need to actually invoke it on puppetmaster, or just have puppetmaster run a simple playbook which installs osad aio on the remote server?19:44
fungiansible calling ansible, basically19:44
clarkbfungi: that sould work, its basically how we restrict puppet access to only what it needs19:44
mordredfungi: I think that - and then we could have osad run in a cron on the remote server itself even19:44
fungior have the puppetmaster calling a playbook in its normal 15-45 minute cycle which does the horizon refresh19:45
fungiagain by having puppetmaster's ansible call the remote ansible19:45
pabelangerthat seems fair19:45
ianwsorry, why would that refresh not be driven by a cron job local to that host?19:46
fungido we have any volunteers familiar enough with our puppetmaster-side playbooks to help eumel8 with the changes necessary to add this?19:46
fungiianw: it could be either19:46
fungii don't really know which would be better in that case19:47
pabelangerIs this something before or after PTG?19:48
fungibut we at least need something creating the cronjob and installing things after the server is created and hopefully idempotently updating it from something declarative in system-config19:48
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fungieumel8: what's the timeframe the i18n team is looking for there? is it something they're anticipating having available for pike string freeze or during queens cycle?19:48
eumel8pabelanger: we need this before string freeze but I don't know the exact date.19:49
AJaegereumel8: https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html19:49
AJaegerAug 11 hard string freeze19:50
fungi#link https://releases.openstack.org/pike/schedule.html Pike Release Schedule19:50
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fungiso a little under two weeks from now19:50
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eumel8I see, AJaeger, thx19:51
pabelangerI can help review code, but not sure I have bandwidth before PTG19:51
fungi#link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/playbooks infra playbooks19:51
fungi#link http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack-infra/system-config/tree/run_all.sh script which periodically runs infra playbooks19:52
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fungithose are the starting point for where people were talking about doing this, as opposed to having to do much any of it in puppet19:52
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pabelangereumel8: ping me if you get stuck19:53
fungiseems like we're all spread pretty thin, but if you ask questions in #openstack-infra hopefully people can help you along19:53
fungii have a couple other quick housekeeping topics to get through in the next 6 minutes before our time's up19:54
eumel8thx pabelanger, it's a hard time frame, I know.19:54
fungithanks for bringing this up in the meeting, eumel8!19:54
eumel8thx to all for the time19:54
fungiit's why we're here every week19:54
fungi#topic August 15 meeting (fungi)19:54
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fungii'll be quick on this one19:55
fungii need a volunteer to cover chairing the august 15 meeting19:55
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fungii think19:55
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clarkbthat is a tuesday at least :) I will be around19:55
fungiyeah, looking at the schedule, i still do19:56
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fungineed to take christine to an appointment on the mainland and likely won't be back home until after the meeting19:56
fungithanks clarkb! that'll be a huge help19:56
ianwa wednesday for some :)  i am also around19:56
fungiyou and ianw can arm wrestle for it19:56
fungior have a dance-off19:56
fungiyour call19:57
ianwconsider me backup19:57
jeblairbackup dancer?19:57
jeblairthis meeting will be awesome19:57
fungi#topic PTL election season (fungi)19:57
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ianwleft shark19:57
fungii'm going to become a backup dancer19:57
clarkbianw: I am happy that left shark is known in australia19:57
fungiwe're coming up on the nomination period for ptls for the queens cycle19:58
fungiand just in case anyone was wondering, i'm not planning to run again19:58
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fungiit was awesome being ptl but after four cycles it's time to let someone else take a turn19:58
AJaegerthanks fungi for your leadership as PTL!19:59
pabelanger++ Thanks indeed19:59
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fungiwe've got excellent people on the team who are more than capable of taking the reins, and i'll be here to help out with any of it you need19:59
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jeblairfungi: yes thanks!20:00
fungiso any of you considering running, be thinking about your platform statements. candidacies open for nomination in ~6 days20:00
clarkbfungi: does that include dancing?20:00
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fungii hope it includes dancing20:00
fungianyway, we're over time. thanks everyone!20:00
fungii'll also be announcing my non-cacdidacy on the ml(s) shortly20:00
fungier, non-candidacy (i can't type today)20:01
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oneswig#startmeeting scientific-wg21:00
openstackMeeting started Tue Jul 25 21:00:31 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is oneswig. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.21:00
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.21:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'scientific_wg'21:00
oneswigoh hi21:00
oneswig#link agenda for today is https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Scientific_working_group#IRC_Meeting_July_25th_201721:00
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oneswigNot a massive amount planned for discussion this week (phew)21:01
oneswigHi mrhillsman, good to see you21:01
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oneswigHey Tim21:01
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oneswigmartial: you online?21:02
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martialHi Stig, yes just joined21:02
oneswigThe very chap :-)21:02
oneswig#chair martial21:02
openstackCurrent chairs: martial oneswig21:02
oneswigHi armstrong21:02
oneswigOK lets get this show on the road21:03
oneswig#topic SuperUser article review21:03
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oneswigOK, we had the interview, probably a couple of months back now21:03
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oneswigThe copy is up for review21:04
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oneswigWere I a prepared man, I'd have it to hand..21:04
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oneswigHi b1airo21:05
oneswig#chair b1airo21:05
openstackCurrent chairs: b1airo martial oneswig21:05
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martialthanks Tim, I was looking it up :)21:06
oneswigGood work Tim, beat me to it21:06
armstrongCan we add suggestion/contributions on the google-doc?21:06
martialYes, in the form of "suggestions" if you can21:06
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martial“suggest edits”21:07
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martial(I have to say, I like the current version a lot)21:11
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b1airoWe have a good looking University & Research track line-up for Sydney21:12
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martialblair: that sounds great21:13
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oneswigb1airo: good to hear it.  How many slots to fill?21:14
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trandlesdon't think we know the slot # yet21:15
jmlowesorry I'm late, what did I sign up for in absentia?21:15
b1airoNo, I think that decision come later21:15
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oneswigjmlowe: just looking over this: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k-lkP4mKNw9JxyDnCCxUmhjJm433zch5A4udmnJzRCw/edit21:16
martialjim: you are judging the HPC hackaton live at the Sydney summit (it is a 72 hour events, caffeine to be provided) ... thanks for "volunteering"21:16
jmloweNAVY - never again volunteer yourself21:17
martialjim: kidding of course :)21:18
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oneswigmartial: were you also kidding when I got signed up? :-)21:19
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martialstig: depends, are you asking about the ORC meeting in Amsterdam?21:21
martialstig: the other one is totally different, it is not an *HPC* hackaton :)21:21
oneswigAh, so true21:21
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martialstig: coffee to be provided (hopefully) as well21:21
jmloweI'd love to go to Amsterdam, I'm not going to that meeting, as I told a colleague I wouldn't go that meeting if it was downstairs21:22
oneswigI might need something stronger!21:22
oneswigmartial: Not Amsterdam, was the hackathon Flanders mailed about21:22
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martialstig: yes, I know, and yes, you are the judge :)21:23
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martialeverybody happy with the state of the "interview" document?21:23
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b1airoI can't keep up with this conversation!21:24
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jmloweI'm relatively happy with the interview21:24
b1airoI had first review of it a week ago, so assume you've undone all my edits now :-)21:24
jpr1q: should the intro sentence have one line about what openstack (possibly as part of the first sentence)21:24
b1airojpr1: it will be posted on the OpenStack site so maybe redundant?21:25
martialjpr1: it is for publication in the SuperUser magazine, so I am not sure21:25
trandlesjpr1: it's for Superuser so the audience _should_ be familiar21:25
jpr1and possibly put "why openstack for research" ahead of "why care about ... working group"21:25
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jpr1ok.  that audience likely has a clue. ;)21:25
jpr1pardon being out of context at the moment21:26
b1airojpr1: yes I agree, I think it could talk about both why and who21:26
martialjpr1: no worries, but thank you for the suggestion, it is very relevant21:26
oneswigOK - publish and be damned?  Last changes please.21:27
jpr1just reading this from point of view of someone who might see just this doc, ie. a url in an email21:27
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jpr1no worries on any of the above late sideline commentary btw21:27
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jpr1looks really good btw21:28
martialstig: Gene is going to love the extra suggestions :)21:28
martialstig: with Flanders being ready to push to the editor in chief21:28
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martialstig: we ought to warn them both21:28
oneswigmartial: OK, I'll mail them now21:29
martialstig: just did so21:30
oneswigah, so you did :-)21:30
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oneswigOK - move on?21:30
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oneswig#topic SC2017 BoF21:31
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oneswigOK, previously we put together a draft BoF proposal21:31
oneswigBased on SC201621:32
jmlowean all new one for SC2017?21:33
oneswigI thought so but can only find the SC2016 one - b1airo?21:33
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oneswigwas it an etherpad?21:33
trandlesI don't recall one for SC1721:33
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b1airoHmm yes I think we may have minted an etherpad for brain storming21:34
oneswig#link I found this https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SWG-SC1721:34
b1airoBut we should just work from the sc16 one21:34
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b1airoI'm on my phone so bit handicapped sorry21:35
oneswig#link updated for SC17 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wMk1qoytJuIY7REzVc_eRpkw4w1qC_-hQf1xnvwb_b8/edit?usp=sharing21:36
jmloweI put in my request to the IU boot committee for a set of talks21:36
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trandlesFun fact: My Sydney travel was approved quickly but SC17 in Denver is up in the air.  Who'd have thunk it...I might not make SC...21:38
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b1airotrandles: odd, are people going off it in favour of ISC?21:39
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jmlowenobody from the US goes to ISC21:40
trandlesNo, it's that there are usually a huge number of requests by the DoE labs so HQ doles out a set number/lab21:40
jmloweI'm checking with Evan Bollig as a sub for Jonathan Mills on the BoF21:40
b1airoMaybe we could make the BoF title: Models for HPC with OpenStack ?21:40
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trandlesonce LANL has their number, my division will decide who gets to go21:40
b1airoAnd aim to get a balanced discussion across different architectures21:41
jmloweb1airo: +121:41
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trandlesdoes "Models" imply "use cases?"21:41
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jmloweI wouldn't say that, you can do the same use case across different models21:43
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b1airoWould be nice to also manage to have some focus on apps/users21:46
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trandlesIMO users are more effective advocates than admins for emerging tech and HPC21:48
b1airoIt's somewhat difficult in OpenStack land as it's so ops & architecture heavy21:49
bolligsorry jmlowe: I’m in. either I or another from MSI will present21:50
trandlesadmins have a reputation for building neat toys that don't deliver a clear win for users21:50
jmloweok, I'll pencil you in for the draft21:50
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martialI would love to say I can also make it, but I am in still unsure if I will be able to be present at either event21:51
trandlesIf we can get one or two users with clear stories about how cloud delivered real science it would drive home the point21:51
b1airojmlowe: I could do an update on our talk too, but I'm happy to be relegated if there is more variety available21:51
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jmloweMaybe I can recycle materials from our first annual nsf review, it was half a day of users detailing how they used jetstream21:52
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bolligwe’ve got users focused on protected NIH data (dbGaP) and genomics workflows21:52
b1airoProtected = only shared with Putin? :-P21:53
jmlowethat's some really interesting stuff, anything with sensitive data is always going to get attention21:53
b1airo(sorry, couldn't help it)21:53
jmlowetoo soon21:53
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b1airoBut yes, we have these use-cases too - Monash is working to launch a Health Data Platform21:54
trandlesbollig: we had a similar use case with NIH and cancer genomics data21:54
martialstig, blair, any issue if I add my name on the sponsor list in case I can get it approved?21:54
b1airoWhich will include cloud based safe havens for analysis workloads21:55
oneswigof course - go ahead21:55
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oneswigb1airo: might be interesting to discuss offline21:55
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trandlespublic cloud-based dataset access is one of the strongest desires our users have21:55
b1airoSounds good oneswig21:56
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b1airoBy the way, anyone coming to Sydney should think about visiting Melbourne the week prior21:56
martialstig: done, thanks21:56
b1airoWe will happily host something at Monash21:56
martialb1airo: I am hoping to be able to do that21:57
trandlesb1airo: unfortunately I can't make it the week before21:57
oneswigb1airo: you going to stick some prawns on the barbie?21:57
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b1airoMaybe a few snags oneswig21:58
b1airoWow 2 minutes to the hour21:58
b1airo#topic AOB21:58
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jmlowethat went quick21:58
b1airoI have a code that takes 3x as long without hugepages in the guest as with21:59
oneswigNo other business for me - been crazily busy this week21:59
b1airoNow trying to learn how to get useful data from perf-kvm22:00
oneswigb1airo: TLB thrashing?22:00
oneswigb1airo: will repay you in the end, no doubt22:00
jmloweI've got one for you, virtual routers change the source from outside packets to be from itself22:00
b1airoMust be I think, but I'm surprised at the magnitude22:00
trandlesjmlowe: that sounds like a NAT not a router...22:01
oneswigOK better wrap up y'all22:01
jmlowecan't figure out how he made it do that22:01
b1airoReally?? How long have we been doing NAT now - want that sort of problem solved years ago22:01
jmlowecontinue in regular channel22:01
oneswigThanks all22:01
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