Wednesday, 2017-07-26

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joehuang#startmeeting tricircle01:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Jul 26 01:01:58 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is joehuang. Information about MeetBot at
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joehuang#topic roll call01:02
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joehuang#info joehuang01:02
RongHui11#info ronghui01:02
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dongfeng#info dongfeng01:02
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zhiyuan#info zhiyuan01:03
Yipei#info Yipei01:03
joehuang#topic pike-3 release01:03
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joehuangaccording to our plan, we'd like to have pike-3 release this Friday01:04
joehuanglet's check whether there is risk01:04
joehuangone by one for each feature?01:05
zhiyuanthere are two smoke tests(for trunk and service function chaining) waiting to be merged, but I think there's no risk01:06
Yipeiload balancing across instances residing in multiple network works, but have two issues01:06
joehuangyes, for smoke test, it could be merged quickly if no bugs found01:07
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joehuanggood , yipei, what's the issue01:07
Yipei1) it breaks bridge network environment01:07
Yipeibefore adding a member in another region, instances in two regions are pingable01:08
Yipeionce an instance is added, they do not01:08
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Yipeionce an instance is added as a member, they do not01:09
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joehuangeast-west networking doesn't work?01:10
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joehuangwhat's your networking topology?01:10
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Yipeithe networking topology is created following
Yipeitwo instances in subnet1, two in subnet201:11
Yipeilb is in region two01:11
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joehuanghave you update the code for get_subnet or get_subnets?01:12
Yipeino, that's the second issue, i did use octavia api, instead of neutron-lbaas api01:16
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Yipeistill need to test neutron-lbaas api01:16
Yipeii try to use neutron-lbaas api01:17
Yipeifollowing this doc
joehuangI found that the document for net creation should be updated with availability zone01:17
joehuangbecause currently the default network is not local network01:17
joehuang#info update network creation with availability zone in installation guide to create local network01:18
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joehuangbecause net1 and net2 are two cross neutron L2 network, I think there may be some issue01:19
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joehuangthere is still some check test for QoS patch, this will be in great risk01:20
Yipeishould the url be "http://REGION_TWO_IP:9696/lbaas/pools/b23ac8e0-5349-4309-b96a-564c5bd04534/members", if using neutron-lbaas api?01:21
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joehuangif you install lbass in region two.01:22
zhiyuanI reviewed the QoS code yesterday, policy module is imported in central plugin and cause the smoke test failure01:22
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joehuangall patches releated to tricircle client have been merged now01:23
dongfeng1) doc migration patch is under review. there maybe a risk. 2) job pagination patch is updated just now. it needs review. 3) I will write doc and release note for job. I think it can be merged in time.01:24
RongHui11yes and we try to fix it and pleased give us some help01:24
joehuanga patch for job pagination support in tricircle client is needed01:24
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joehuangfor the patch can not land in time, need to ask for exception in mail-list01:25
joehuangonly if RFE(request for exception) is approved after discussion, then the feature could be merged in pike01:26
joehuangbecause pike-3 is feature freeze milestone, after pike-3, usually no big feature should be merged for stability concerns01:26
joehuangI also noticed that QoS not register a blueprint yet01:27
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joehuangthough spec has been approved, it'll be good to register one blueprint for this feature01:27
joehuangand for other features, please update the status of your blueprint01:28
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joehuangall patches in review queue is here
joehuangdoc migration should be merged in pike-301:29
joehuangthis is community wide task01:30
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dongfengI update the doc migration patch, but I an not quite famliar with doc01:30
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dongfengafter your review I will make further modification01:31
zhiyuanI notice that the doc test has been passed01:31
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joehuangyou can click the link gate-tricircle-docs-ubuntu-xenial01:31
joehuangto view the result01:31
joehuangthe result seems ok01:31
dongfeng:) zhiyuan pointed the problem01:32
dongfengI fixed last night.01:32
joehuangfor example, for the current compilation result :
zhiyuanonce a test fails, you can click the link to check the log01:32
RongHui11zhiyuan, for the QoS test problem, do you have some good way to fix yhis problem01:33
dongfengto zhiyuan, got it.01:33
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zhiyuanto ronghui, debug is needed. according to the log, central neutron server fails to access "keys" atttribute from a None object01:35
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joehuang#topic pike-rc01:36
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zhiyuanI add the link for log in my previous comment01:36
joehuangok, let's discuss next milestone, for qos, we can discuss in #openstack-tricircle after the meeting01:36
joehuangaccording to community schedule:
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joehuangfinal release of pike is Aug 21 ~ 2501:38
dongfengafter jul 28, can the tricircleclient and tricircle take new patches?01:39
joehuangI suggest that we have pike-rc (release candidate) on Aug 22, if no critical and high bugs, then this release will be the final release01:40
joehuangotherwise, we may have to quick fix critical and high, and release a new one on Aug.2501:40
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joehuangto Dongfeng, yes, new patch is ok01:40
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joehuangbut big feature is not allowed only if RFE is approved01:41
dongfenggot it~01:41
joehuangRFE is "request for exception"01:41
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zhiyuanto joe, I think the release time is ok01:42
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joehuangafter feature freeze milestone, we have to make the release as stable as much, so after pike-3, regression test and bug fix is the major activities01:42
joehuangso please manually do regression test for your features merged in pike, and fix it ASAP.01:43
joehuanghow about the schedule for pike-rc? Aug 22?01:44
zhiyuanor you can write tests for smoke test :)01:44
zhiyuanjust put your manual test steps into a yaml file01:44
joehuanggood proposal01:45
joehuangwe need more coverage for smoke test, and add your test script in yaml file, and make it a part of smoke test01:45
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zhiyuanexample like:
joehuangto zhiyuan, do we need a document for how to write smoke test yaml file?01:46
zhiyuanthe spec already discuss the schema, do you think it's clear enough?01:47
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zhiyuanthe link for smoke test spec01:48
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joehuangmay someone write a yaml file for smoke test according to the spec to see if it's good enough?01:49
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dongfengoh, I haven't used it.01:50
joehuangsmoke test failure
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joehuangis it a random failure in smoke test?01:50
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dongfengfor patch 480326, I only changed one line01:51
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dongfengIt shouldn't fail01:51
joehuangok, please check the failure after the meeting01:52
zhiyuanpy35 also fails01:52
joehuang#topic open discussion01:52
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joehuangany other topic?01:52
zhiyuanI notice that sometime smoke test fails with async job still running01:53
zhiyuando we need to increase the wait time?01:53
zhiyuancurrently is 20s * 1001:53
zhiyuanwait 10 times, each 20 seconds01:53
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zhiyuan fails like this01:54
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joehuangyes, I think so, the waiting time is too short lead to random failure01:55
zhiyuanoh sorry, it's 10s * 1001:55
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zhiyuanin my trunk patch, I change the time to 20s * 1001:55
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joehuangother topic?01:57
dongfengno for me01:57
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Yipeino from me01:58
RongHui11no for me01:58
joehuangok, thank you for attending the meeting01:58
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gongysh#startmeeting tacker04:34
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tung_doangongysh: hi04:35
gongyshtung_doan, welcome04:35
gongyshYanXing_an, hi04:35
YanXing_anha, only three men?04:36
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gongyshhow about canceling the meeting?04:38
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tung_doangongysh: I worry that we need to do04:38
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tung_doangongysh: if possible, we need to re-schedule time for meeting.04:38
tung_doangongysh: some folks in US time zone cannot join04:39
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gongyshtung_doan, ok, we should think it about.04:39
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tung_doangongysh: +104:39
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kota_#startmeeting swift07:00
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kota_who's coming swift meeting?07:00
mahatichello! /me07:01
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kota_notmyname said he is absent this meeting07:02
kota_and mkazuhiro is now in summer vacation07:02
kota_it looks like today may be small team meeting :P07:02
mahaticheh, yeah07:03
acolesit'll still be great :)07:03
kota_meeting wiki was updated07:03
kota_#topic release schedule07:03
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kota_notmyname notified me for the release schedule07:04
kota_he is now preparing the new release07:04
kota_and the important date for the release, swift-client will be in Wed for him and swift release will be in this weekend07:04
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kota_i'd like to catch up some patches on priority reviews for the release07:05
kota_the priority reviews are listed in
kota_as you all known07:05
kota_does anyone has update for the patches?07:06
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* kota_ starting from swift-client07:06
acolesI have been working a lot on (multi process reconstructor) and hope to get +2 on that today07:06
kota_ok, let's start from Swift07:06
acoleshehe sorry!07:06
kota_thanks acoles07:06
acoleswe don't seem to have had any activity on
kota_acoles: ok and it looks like timburk also is looking the patch?07:07
acoleskota_: yes Tim is working on multi-proc recons too07:07
acoleshopefully we have that covered for reviews07:08
kota_ok, hope it get merged before cutting the release07:08
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kota_and I'm on
mahaticI'll look at patch 44848007:09
acolesmahatic: thanks07:09
kota_timburk already add his +2 and I'm closing to get it to +A. Code looks to be fine to me (thanks acoles)07:09
kota_and now under the test for 47700007:09
mahaticit's been sitting there a while and no longer WIP, so seems ready for a review07:09
acoleskota_: thank you! I would love to have that in the release too07:09
acolesif i get some time I will also try to look at 44848007:10
mahaticacoles: thanks too07:10
mahaticsince there is no patchbot :(, "07:10
mahaticDB replicator cleanup" is the title of the patch07:10
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kota_yup, thanks07:10
mahaticexcuse the formatting07:10
kota_how about priority bugs?07:11
acolesthe first patch in list is ready IMHO
acolesI know that is causing rledisez some pain in production07:13
kota_ok. nice to hear, it's ready for review07:13
mahaticthe second one status is "won't fix" on launchpad07:13
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mahaticoh that status is not for Swift I think07:14
acolesmahatic: this one ?07:14
openstackLaunchpad bug 1572719 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "Client may hold socket open after ChunkWriteTimeout" [High,Confirmed]07:14
mahaticacoles: yeah07:14
kota_yup, it's for security advisary07:14
kota_and the reason seems from "Since the report is already public,"07:15
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kota_looking at the last comment #1907:15
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kota_and it looks like no patch was not proposed yet07:15
kota_for the last item, clayg commented it's related to the second one07:17
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kota_i.e. bug bug/1568650 is related to bug 157271907:17
openstackbug 1572719 in OpenStack Object Storage (swift) "Client may hold socket open after ChunkWriteTimeout" [High,Confirmed]
mattoliverauo/ sorry I'm late, had to pick up the daughter from her grandparents07:17
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kota_mattoliverau: welcome :)07:17
acolesmattoliverau: o/07:17
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mahaticmattoliverau: o/ welcome07:18
acolesmattoliverau: we just ssigned you all the hard work ;)07:18
mahatic:D yeah ;)07:18
kota_congrats mattoliverau ;-)07:18
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kota_summarize on the 2 bugs in the list, it seems we want to hear the status to clayg in 2100 meeting. he commented to the lp07:19
kota_ok, moving onto the swift client07:20
kota_patch got merged, nice07:20
* acoles has been very bad at doing swiftclient reviews recently :/07:20
kota_thanks joel and pete07:20
* kota_ is feeling too :/07:20
kota_one more patch for swift-client this already has Tim's +207:21
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kota_hmm... but swift-client release schedule is too close since now.07:23
kota_this may be just a reminder.07:23
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mattoliverauI'm getting in trouble for working too much on my last week of "holidays" so might be a little light on further reviews and triages before next week.07:24
kota_does anyone have priority patch for review?07:24
kota_mattoliverau: ok07:24
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kota_and proposed changelog for the next swift release is
acoleskota_: nothing other than what is on the wiki07:25
kota_and proposed changelog for swiftclient is here,
kota_k, let's move to the next topic07:26
kota_#topic denver-ptg07:26
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mahatickota_: just a question on Swift release07:27
kota_mahatic: go ahead07:27
mahaticdo we have a deadline yet for that?07:27
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kota_I don't think, it's concrete but basically this release depends on OpenStack schedule07:28
mattoliverauI think notmyname said he wanted by end of week or something.. in an ideal world that is.. unless I'm remembering wrong :p07:28
kota_it's like Pike-3 so I don't think we could make delay much.07:28
mahaticmattoliverau: kota_ okay, thanks07:29
acolesI heard end of week is goal too07:29
kota_pike-3 milestone is Jul 24 - Jul 2807:29
kota_moving back to the ptg07:30
mahatickota_: acoles ack07:31
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kota_though i don't think you all not yet register the ptg but the registration is and do it asap if you didn't register yet07:31
kota_and etherpad for topics is
kota_oh sorry, mahatic. I think I heard you won't be there?07:32
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mahaticyeah :(07:32
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kota_that was just a reminder for ptg. let me move to the next topic if anyone doesn't have questions07:34
kota_ok, next07:34
kota_#topic bug-triage-work07:34
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kota_it have continued from previous weekly meeting07:35
mahaticI'm guilty of not signing up for that yet, will do that07:35
kota_however, it doesn't look Christian and Thiago working on that, are here?07:36
acolesmattoliverau: nice work on triage07:36
mattoliverauThanks :)07:36
kota_oh. mattoliverau is doing something?07:36
mattoliverauThere's and eitherpad, to track, which is easier then the normal LP links07:37
acoleskota_: he's triaged 8 or so bugs :)07:37
mattoliverauI just started from the bottom of new and started working up ;)07:37
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mattoliverauKota_: don't looked too shocked :p07:38
mattoliverauacoles: ta (/me is on his phone)07:38
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kota_and tdasilva and acoles had triaged some bugs in the *new* list07:39
kota_it looks like07:39
acolesI think the idea is that we now all pick off bugs from the etherpad, and aim to reduce New bugs by categorising or closing07:39
acolesthere are some instructions at top of wiki07:39
mattoliverauYeah just triage is the first sweep07:39
mattoliverauGet them out of new07:40
acolesyes, that ^^07:40
kota_make sense. do it!07:40
kota_do we have any deadline for the triage work?07:40
mattoliverauBut yeah etherpad explains, and if you have questions ask and we'll make it clearer07:41
mattoliverauNot sure of a deadline.. but I think some people are thinking about doing a triage squash at PTG in the first 2 days of people have nothing else to do07:42
mattoliverauBut the sooner we clear it up the better.. but then also continue being better as well ;)07:42
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kota_mattoliverau: ok, thanks for the info. it seems long-term work but the reducing the number of *new* bugs should be great for us anyway07:43
kota_before moving to open discussion, I'd love to enter the topic07:44
kota_#topic next-chair07:44
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mattoliverauI'll do it, I think mahatic is *next* but it wasn't long ago she did it :)07:44
kota_i think we are rotating the chair by alphabetical order...07:45
kota_ok, thanks mattoliverau!07:45
mahaticmattoliverau: that's be great! :) I was just gonna say that I'd be taking off towards the end of that week, so I'm a bit unsure of being available on 9th07:45
mattoliverauUnless someone else wants too of course ;)07:45
mattoliverauThen that works well :)07:45
mahaticmattoliverau: thanks07:45
kota_#agreed mattoliverau is the next chair for the next 0700 meeting07:45
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acolesFYI I will be on vacation on 9th07:46
acolesthanks mattoliverau for volunteering07:46
kota_acoles: enjoy07:46
kota_#topic open-discussion07:46
acoleskota_: thanks07:46
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mattoliverauSo it'll be a quiet one then, that's ok, more time for 007 quotes ;)07:46
mahaticlol, fire away ;)07:47
kota_Dows anyone has something to bring up?07:47
kota_we have 13 minutes left07:47
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mattoliverauSeems acoles gets an early breakfast07:48
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* kota_ is assuming silence is no one has topic with silence07:48
acolesmattoliverau: been there, done that :)07:48
kota_ok, finish up this meeting.07:49
mahatickota_: looks like it07:49
acoleskota_: thank you for chairing today!07:49
kota_thanks for comming and thanks for working a lot07:49
mahaticyeah, thanks kota_ for chairing!07:49
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rhochmuth1#startmeeting monasca14:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Jul 26 14:01:15 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is rhochmuth1. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.14:01
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rhochmuth1sorry, was running slightly behind this morning14:01
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rhochmuth1#topic Events API - separate or add to monasca-api?14:02
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witekthat's leftover from last time14:03
rhochmuth1i still need to discuss with some folks here on this topic14:03
rhochmuth1i'll try and tee that up today14:03
witekour preference would be to keep it separate, right arturb_ ?14:03
rhochmuth1ohhh, i thought you were more interested in combining it14:04
arturb_this is the best idea t keep it separate14:04
rhochmuth1what was the motiivation14:04
witekI wanted to reuse the persister for events14:04
witekthat was the starting point for the discussion14:05
arturb_I already implemented oslo.policy for events-api14:05
rhochmuth1if you would like to keep teh events api separate then i don't see a reason that i need to follow-up with folks here14:06
rhochmuth1that was the original plan anyway14:06
rhochmuth1the only reason i would need to check would be to make sure that they are OK with a different architecture14:06
witekagreed, I think it's easier to work on it separately14:07
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rhochmuth1OK, i think we can all agree right now then that the events-api will remain a separate repo14:07
rhochmuth1i don't get to say that very often these days14:08
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witekwe would like to add events persisting to monasca-persister though14:08
rhochmuth1i was afraid to ask14:08
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rhochmuth1OK, i'll check with team on that issue then14:09
rhochmuth1i don't have any major arguments why that wouldn't be OK14:09
arturb_there is already a change providing events to persister:
rhochmuth1thx arturb_14:10
arturb_no problem :)14:10
rhochmuth1i guess we can close on that topic if you believe we are done with it14:11
witekyes, thank you14:11
rhochmuth1#topic survey14:11
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witekwe would like everyone to forward the info to anyone who uses Monasca in OpenStack14:12
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witekas far as I know it used as input for Project Navigator14:13
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rhochmuth1hmmm, not sure how to do that14:13
rhochmuth1how to forward on14:13
rhochmuth1we have our email list group14:13
rhochmuth1but that probably isn't very representative14:14
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rhochmuth1of real users14:14
witekwhat about Helion folks?14:14
rhochmuth1hmmm, it might be possible14:14
rhochmuth1that would result in potentially a lot of users14:14
rhochmuth1good idea14:15
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witekI guess Stefano Canepa could help14:15
scI'm sending the survey to all the customer I know14:15
rhochmuth1thx sc14:16
witekcool, thanks14:16
sceven the one that are switch from Helion '(14:16
rhochmuth1sc: just got your email with the monasca stickers. thx for sending, the team liked them.14:16
rhochmuth1sc: which one's are switching from helion, and are they moving to suse?14:17
rhochmuth1or something else?14:17
scrhochmuth1: it took a while to get there14:17
rhochmuth1maybe that is confidential14:17
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scrhochmuth1: SUSE and RH14:18
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scrhochmuth1: but at least 2 of them asked to have monasca on RH14:18
rhochmuth1sc: that's good news14:19
scI'm studing different ways to deploy (I have lots of code to look at thanks to witek and his colleagues :-) )14:19
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witekyes, we have ansible roles for RedHat here
witekbut it was not maintained lately14:21
witekalso, it's just a mirror of private repos and submodule references do not work, so manual cloning is necessary14:22
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witekI guess, we can move on14:24
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rhochmuth1#topic Vote for presentations in Sydney14:26
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witekwe have many Monasca sessions proposed14:27
witekeveryone wants Australia trip :)14:27
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rhochmuth1hmm, looks like some intersting sessions14:27
witekyes, some are really interesting14:28
rhochmuth1yeah, nice to see some names i've never heard of before14:29
rhochmuth1if we could only get them to come to our weekly meetings14:29
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rhochmuth1and start becoming more involved with development14:29
scrhochmuth1: you are invite to this one ;-)14:29
rhochmuth1sc: thanks14:30
rhochmuth1i know those folks14:30
witekoh no14:30
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rhochmuth1#topic Release dates14:32
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rhochmuth1so, i'm guessing that we are on-track14:32
witekI have tagged python-monascaclient for final release14:33
rhochmuth1there was a question around py35 support in the monasca-api recently14:33
witekthe stable branch should be created tomorrow14:33
rhochmuth1thx witek14:33
witekrhochmuth1: you mean failing the Ocata goal?14:34
witekwell, I guess we have to communicate that we will not manage to do it for agent and api in Ocata release14:35
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witekthey want to see that we work on this and make progress14:35
rhochmuth1in pike, isn't this a requirement14:36
witekpardon, Pike14:36
witekit is the goal, not requirement14:37
rhochmuth1i guess we are ok then14:38
rhochmuth1#topic monasca presence in service-types-authority 14:38
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efriedHowdy folks, sorry to gate-crash, but I happened to notice the meeting and monasca was in my forebrain because of (CC: dhellmann mordred)14:38
efriedA little background: service-types-authority is a small repository that houses what's supposed to be a definitive/authoritative list of service types known to OpenStack.  Its main component is this file:
efriedConsumers of this repository would be any client of the APIs listed therein.  They can e.g. use it to (programmatically) find the official service type name based on any historical aliases for that service type; or to find the docs for the service.14:39
efriedWhile reviewing the aforementioned patch, it came out that monasca actually has three APIs; but there's only one listed in that service-types.yaml.14:39
efriedSo what I think we need is for all three entries to be listed in there.14:39
efriedNow, I'm led to understand that the doc repositories for these three projects are somewhat in flux, which is fine; but wherever they settle out ought to eventually be reflected in there.14:39
efriedWhat would be nice is if someone from the monasca team proposed the patch to the service-types-authority repo, cause it's y'all who know what those three APIs are called, what their aliases might be, where their docs live, etc.14:39
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rhochmuth1efried: thx14:40
rhochmuth1witek: is this something that you can work on?14:40
witekyes, I'll add it14:41
rhochmuth1or is this at area that tomasz should address14:41
rhochmuth1thx witek14:41
efriedThanks folks.  Please add me to that review whenever it's up.14:42
rhochmuth1efried: thx14:42
witekrhochmuth1: how should we name the services?14:42
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efriedFind me in -dev if you have any questions14:42
witekefried: thanks14:43
rhochmuth1i think "monitoring" covers it for now14:44
efriedPlease note naming conventions/suggestions in
witekevents is an alias for panko14:44
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rhochmuth1i see14:44
efriedAnd yes, also keep in mind that the names need to be universal and not conflict with others.14:44
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witekmonasca-log-api has monitoring-log-api registered now14:45
witekwe also have related discussion with Tomasz on that14:45
rhochmuth1service-type should be a generic14:46
witekmy sugestion for naming would be: monitoring, monasca-log-api, monitoring-events-api14:46
rhochmuth1monasca-log-api is as a service ty pe is the same as the project14:47
efriedDo we need -api?14:47
witekefried: not really, I guess14:47
efriedFor the existing entry, monitoring-log-api, we can move that to an alias and make the official service type `montioring-log` (or `monitoring-logging`)14:48
rhochmuth1monitoring-logging sounds good to me14:49
rhochmuth1should we add events?14:49
rhochmuth1i types that out and it looked rather long14:49
efriedWouldn't worry about length.14:50
efriedWe have e.g. container-infrastructure-management ;-)14:50
efriedThis is for programmatic consumption14:50
witekrhochmuth1: you don't like the name, or do you mean we should wait until implementation is ready14:50
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rhochmuth1ok, let's just stick with monitoring-logging14:50
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efriedSo the official set would be `monitoring`, `monitoring-logging` (+alias `monitoring-log-api`), and `monitoring-events` ?14:51
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witeksounds good to me14:52
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witekwe could also wait with events until ready, if you prefer14:52
efriedProbably not a terrible idea.  Not a problem to propose -events in a separate patch later.14:52
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rhochmuth1waiting until it is ready sounds good to me14:53
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efriedThanks all.14:53
* efried out14:53
rhochmuth1i think we are done with the agenda for today14:54
rhochmuth1i'll check on the monasca-persister14:54
rhochmuth1to see what folks here think14:54
witekcould you look at this review?14:54
witekit's about publishing monasca-api documentation to docs.openstack.org14:55
rhochmuth1wow, you are taking care a lot of loose-end, thx14:55
rhochmuth1i'll look at it14:55
witekrhochmuth1: thanks14:55
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rhochmuth1should we end for the day then14:56
rhochmuth1i have to go vote for some presentations14:56
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smcginnis#startmeeting Cinder16:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jul 26 16:00:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is smcginnis. Information about MeetBot at
openstackUseful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote.16:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'cinder'16:00
tommylikehusmcginnis:  lol16:00
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smcginnisCoutesy ping16:00
_pewp_jungleboyj ( ^_^)/16:00
smcginnisdulek duncant eharney geguileo winston-d e0ne jungleboyj jgriffith thingee smcginnis hemna xyang1 tbarron scottda erlon jbernard _alastor_ bluex karthikp_ patrickeast dongwenjuan JaniceLee cFouts Thelo vivekd adrianofr mtanino karlamrhein diablo_rojo jay.xu jgregor lhx_ rajinir wilson-l reduxio wanghao thrawn01 chris_morrell watanabe.isao,tommylikehu mdovgal ildikov wxy viks ketonne abishop16:00
smcginnisDuncanT! :)16:01
_pewp_hemna (♦亝д 亝)ノ16:01
smcginnis#topic Announcements16:01
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diablo_rojo_phonHello :)16:02
smcginnisThe end is near.16:02
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smcginnisTomorrow is milestone 3.16:02
* jungleboyj pictures smcginnis in a sandwich board reporting this.16:02
smcginnislhx_: Welcome! :)16:02
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smcginnisjungleboyj: Yay, my intention worked.16:02
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smcginnisPlease let me know if there are any critical python-cinderclient patches that need to get through.16:03
lhx_smcginnis, nice to see you the first time :D16:03
smcginnislhx_: You too!16:03
smcginnisWe just have today to get anything else through.16:03
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smcginnisWe had a cinderclient release last week, but we've had a few more patches make it through since then.16:03
smcginnisI'm going to request another release later today to pick up those.16:04
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smcginnisjungleboyj: ;)16:04
smcginnisA few other things with the schedule...16:04
e0nesmcginnis: I hope, you don'te forget python-brick-cinderclient-ext too :)16:04
smcginnise0ne: Yep, absolutely! :)16:05
smcginnise0ne: Thanks for the reminder though.16:05
smcginnisThis is feature freeze as well.16:05
e0nesmcginnis: you're welcome16:05
smcginnisSo no more feature patches after tomorrow unless the core team feels it's important to still get through.16:06
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smcginnisBut I'm hoping we can limit that as much as possible.16:06
smcginnisI've updated the etherpad - still a few specs and things we agreed on that are not complete.16:06
smcginnis#link Review focus16:06
smcginnisOverall not too bad thoguh.16:06
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smcginnisAnd Soft String Freeze.16:07
smcginnisAfter tomorrow, we should not be making any changes to translatable strings to help the i18n team have any kind of chance of actually translating them.16:07
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smcginnisI think this has changed from the past, but we are supposed to request on the ML if we want to merge string changes after tomorrow.16:08
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smcginnisLet's just try to avoid them if at all possible.16:08
smcginnisShould be better now that it's just the exception strings and not all log messages.16:08
diablo_rojo_phonShould be much easier now :)16:09
smcginnisIt is also the community goal completion deadline.16:09
smcginnisThanks to e0ne, we have some patches out there for the uWSGI goal.16:09
smcginnisBut still not merged, so I'm hoping someone looks at those soon.16:10
smcginnisOut of our control, unfortunately.16:10
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e0nesmcginnis: we need at lease devstack patch to be merged16:10
smcginnisSo main points: 1) Let me know if we have any cinderclient patches I need to wait on, 2) help get through priorities from the etherpad, 3) try not to make string changes.16:11
e0nes/at lease/at least16:11
smcginnise0ne: +116:11
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smcginnisOK, just a couple more announcement items...16:11
smcginnis#link Planning etherpad for PTG16:12
smcginnisAny and all ideas for discussion at the PTG, please add there.16:12
smcginnisWhether you are able to attend or not.16:12
* e0ne still waits for a visa renewval16:12
smcginnisAnd if you are planning on attending, please add your name to that so we can get an idea.16:12
smcginnise0ne: I hope that goes well.16:12
tommylikehusmcginnis:  Is P3 a deadline for back port  bugs as well?16:13
smcginnisIf you are planning on attending, please register so they can plan overall:16:13
smcginnis#link PTG registration16:13
smcginnistommylikehu: No, support cycles have different deadlines. So a little more time there.16:13
smcginnistommylikehu: Not that we should wait if there is anything to backport. ;)16:13
tommylikehusmcginnis:  ok16:14
diablo_rojo_phonTSP for the PTG is still open for another week I believe.16:14
smcginnistommylikehu: This page shows when the support phase dates are:16:14
e0netommylikehu: it's a feature freeze and client freeze  deadline16:14
smcginnisdiablo_rojo_phon: Excellent. Good to bring up.16:14
* lhx_ looking forward to attending, but tsp application failed16:14
smcginnisIf you need financial support to attend, please look into the travel support program.16:14
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smcginnisTravel Support Program16:15
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smcginnisSwanson: Or Tea Sipping Protocol. You decide.16:15
diablo_rojo_phonMmmm tea :)16:16
smcginnisThat's all I had for announcements.16:16
smcginnis#topic New os-brick disconnect parameters16:16
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smcginnisgeguileo: Thanks for waiting a week on this.16:16
geguileono problem  :-)16:16
geguileobasically this is just an announcement16:16
geguileofollowing smcginnis last week announcement of the the os-brick version16:17
geguileonow minimum version for cinder is 1.15.116:17
geguileowhich has a couple of new parameters which are only useful for iSCSI for now16:17
geguileoforce and ignore_errors16:17
geguileothese params are for disconnect16:17
geguileoforce means that we don't care if we lose data on disconnect16:17
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geguileobut we give priority to leaving the system as clean as possible on error16:18
geguileouseful when you are creating a vol from image16:18
geguileofor example16:18
geguileosince on failure data loss is irrelevant, you'll be deleting the vol anyway16:18
geguileoignore errors means you don't want an exception to be raised if there's a failure16:18
smcginnisMakes a lot of sense.16:18
geguileoignore errors is useful if you are forcing16:19
geguileoand for example are detaing a volume that was mounted as read only to back it up16:19
geguileoyou detach it forcing and ignoring errors16:19
geguileoyou don't want to fail a backup because the detach of the source volume failed at the end16:19
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geguileothis was part of the iSCSI refactoring16:19
geguileoand there is a patch in Cinder that uses those new parameters16:20
geguileofor now it's only usefull for iSCSI16:20
geguileoand that's all I wanted to say16:20
smcginnisgeguileo: Thanks, good for folks to know the change is there.16:20
geguileoimportant for any new code that we add16:21
smcginnisI do think there are a lot of situations where force makes sense and we really don't care the state of the data since we will just be blowing it away anyway.16:21
smcginnisgeguileo: Thanks for the update.16:22
smcginnis#topic Open Discussion16:22
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e0nesmcginnis: +116:22
smcginnisShort agenda. What color should we paint the shed?16:22
SwansonLime green like the new wolves jersey.16:22
diablo_rojo_phonBlue. No. Green.16:22
smcginnise0ne: Bikeshedding time. :)16:23
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smcginnisOK, if there are no other topics, go forth and review. :)16:24
diablo_rojo_phonWell I found something interesting yesterday.16:24
smcginnisdiablo_rojo_phon: Good interesting or bad interesting?16:25
diablo_rojo_phonPoking around on an ovo patch for making migration status into an enum.16:25
diablo_rojo_phonBad interesting.16:25
eharneyFYI is a bothersome bug that i'm going to post a fix for soon... pike-3 would be nice but i don't know if it'll make it16:25
openstackLaunchpad bug 1705407 in Cinder "Bootable volume creation failed with glance image of 'ISO' format" [High,New] - Assigned to Eric Harney (eharney)16:25
diablo_rojo_phonLooks like there a lot of places where target info is being saved into the migration status.16:25
smcginniseharney: yeah...16:25
smcginnisdiablo_rojo_phon: The status field is being set to the target info?16:26
diablo_rojo_phonWhen migration status shouldn't be more than a string it has the target address. It was in the core code all the way back to like the start of cinder.16:26
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e0nediablo_rojo_phon: do you have a link to the patch nearly?16:27
diablo_rojo_phonYeah and there are checks to make sure that migration status starts with 'target:'16:27
diablo_rojo_phonYeah one sec.16:27
smcginnisdiablo_rojo_phon: That's.... odd.16:27
e0nediablo_rojo_phon: oh.. we have to get rid of these things16:27
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hemnaI think the migration status field was a sort of magic field16:28
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hemnasince it wasn't really shown anywhere16:28
hemnaI think there were reasons for this at one point16:28
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diablo_rojo_phonIn line 161916:30
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diablo_rojo_phonI was gonna go file a bunch of bugs, but I thought I'd let you all know too.16:31
smcginnisGood to at least raise awareness.16:31
hemnayah looks like that's there on purpose16:31
smcginnisSounds like maybe we'll need a new field if we want to be able to switch that to use the enums.16:31
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hemnachanging that means db migrations16:31
smcginnishemna: Yep. :[16:31
diablo_rojo_phonYeah it is in a fee driver's too.16:32
diablo_rojo_phonSolidfire and NEC that I saw so far16:32
smcginnisProbably not a huge deal, but would take some work.16:32
smcginnisIt's all jgriffith's fault. :)16:32
jungleboyjjgriffith:  Any idea why that is there?16:32
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diablo_rojo_phonactually following the blames back it was avishay..16:32
diablo_rojo_phonjgriffith: just took advantage in his driver ;)16:33
lhx_Oh :(16:33
jgriffithtrying to catch up16:33
diablo_rojo_phonI'm sure it was to just save the info somewhere that was easier.16:33
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hemnathat link works16:34
smcginnisWell, probably something we can work out in channel. Thanks for the knowledge sharing diablo_rojo_phon.16:34
smcginnisAnything else for the meeting while everyone is here?16:35
diablo_rojo_phonNo problem smcginnis16:35
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smcginnisOK, thanks everyone!16:36
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lhx_thanks smcginnis16:36
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jungleboyjscottda:  Happy birthday!16:37
scottdaha! Thanks16:37
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johnsom#startmeeting Octavia17:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Jul 26 17:00:21 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is johnsom. Information about MeetBot at
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johnsomI know we have a few people out today, so might be a short meeting.17:01
johnsom#topic Announcements17:01
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johnsomPTL elections are coming up, see the following link for details:17:01
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johnsomPTG is September 11-15th17:02
johnsomI plan to be there the whole week17:02
johnsomFeature freeze and Pike-3 milestone17:02
johnsomToday is the last day to get features into Pike!17:02
johnsomThe cores have been busy doing reviews to make sure things that are ready get into the Pike-3 milestone.17:03
johnsomSomething like over 25 patches in the last week17:03
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johnsomSo, lots going on17:03
johnsomIf you have a feature patch that you want in Pike and it isn't already in +2 with no -1 state, please bring it up in the progress reports section of the meeting so we can discuss.17:04
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johnsomThe Pike-3 milestone just means no more features, we can still work on bug fixes.17:04
johnsomOr non-code items.17:04
johnsomNext milestone is RC1, the week of August 7th.17:05
johnsomPike will release the week of August 28th17:05
johnsomAny other announcements?17:05
johnsom#topic Brief progress reports / bugs needing review17:06
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johnsomOk, I have been working on openstacksdk.  Everything is implemented now except for quota.17:07
johnsomI need to send out an e-mail, I haven't had review traction there, so not sure what is up with the project.17:07
johnsomI have also been working on a bunch of reviews, helping with the flavors spec, etc.17:08
johnsomAny other updates from folks?17:08
johnsomAny must-haves to bring to the attention of the cores?17:08
nmagnezijohnsom, adam an xgerman_ already commented on , would love to hear your opinion as well :)17:08
openstackLaunchpad bug 1705259 in octavia "Octavia health-manager and worker should work better with any given interface_driver " [Undecided,New] - Assigned to Nir Magnezi (nmagnezi)17:09
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johnsomYeah, I saw the conversation on that last night.  I kind of agree with Adam that I'm not sure if it would be helpful or more harm.17:10
johnsomIt would assume that neutron is installed on the Octavia controller instances right?17:10
nmagnezifair enough. let's follow up later17:10
nmagnezijohnsom, installed by python dependency, yes17:11
johnsomOk, we can chat about it in open discussion as it seems pretty quiet here today17:11
nmagneziim afraid I'll need to drop beforehand, so I'll catch you in the channel17:12
johnsomIf we don't have any other highlights, I will move on to open discussion17:12
johnsom#topic Open Discussion17:12
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johnsomOther topics for today?17:12
jnieszposted some comments to flavor spec based on your changes17:13
johnsomCool, I saw that Evgeny also commented17:13
johnsomI will look at those and do another spin today.  Looks like I made a mistake or two...  grin17:14
johnsomThanks for the comments and reviews!17:15
johnsomAnything else today?17:15
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johnsomI will put up the Pike-3 release patch either tonight or early tomorrow depending on how patches are coming.17:16
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johnsomI really want QoS in, so I might work on that patch and/or open some bugs so we can get it in Pike.  I think it is super close.17:17
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johnsomMaybe the same with failover API, but it needs a lot more work.17:18
johnsomOk, thanks folks!  I'm going to get back at it.17:18
jniesz+1 for failover api17:18
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krenczewskiHi Bin17:58
krenczewskiHi Sukhdev17:58
bh526r#startmeeting gluon18:00
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bh526rHi Kamil18:00
bh526r#topic Roll Call18:00
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bh526r#info Bin Hu18:00
pcarver#info Paul Carver18:00
krenczewski#info Kamil Renczewski18:00
bh526r#topic Admin Update18:01
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bh526r#info Bin plans to attend PTG on 09/11-09/15. Does anyone else plan to attend?18:01
bh526r#info Otherwise, no other update18:02
bh526r#topic Pike Release Update18:02
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bh526r#info Bin followed up with Sukhdev, and waiting for further update regarding Neutron related tasks18:03
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bh526r#info In addition, there are 2 patched approved since our last meeting on June 28:18:04
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bh526r#info One is "Fix incorrect commands adding Gluon service to Keystone"18:04
Sukhdevbh526r: I will reply later today18:04
bh526rThank you Sukhdev18:05
bh526r#info The other one is "Update documentation for Contrail installation"18:05
bh526r#info There are 7 new patches submitted for review18:06
bh526r#info (1) Update the documentation link for doc migration18:06
jinliinfo JinLi18:07
bh526r#info This patch updates the link of OpenStack docs in our various documentation to match the new OpenStack doc structure18:07
bh526r#info It is quite straightforward.18:08
bh526r#info Please take a look, and see if you have any comment18:08
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bh526r#info There are two +1. If there is no comment, I suggest to approve it.18:09
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bh526r#info No comments, this is approved. Bin will take action to merge it.18:10
bh526r#info (2) Update formatting in Contrail docs18:11
bh526r#info This patch improves the formatting in contrail installation procedure.18:12
bh526r#info It is quite straightforward.18:13
bh526r#info There are two +1.18:13
bh526r#info If there is no further comment, I suggest to approve it.18:13
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bh526r#info No comments, this is approved. Bin will take action to merge it.18:16
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bh526r#info (3) Rule to code18:17
bh526r#info This patch only moves rule definitions from policy.json to code. Policies definitions e.g. "create_ports" or "get_ports" will still be defined in the policy.json file.18:18
bh526r#info In the future, policy definitions will be auto generated from model's yaml files[1]. Then policy definitions will be removed from the policy.json file.18:18
bh526r#info There are three +1.18:18
bh526r#info If there is no other comment, I suggest to approve it.18:19
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bh526r#info No comments, this is approved. Bin will take action to merge it.18:21
bh526r#info (4) Add configuration option for policy.json file path18:22
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bh526r#info There are 2 comments, all are editorial / typo18:23
jinliwill need to fix the typo18:23
jinligood catch bin18:23
bh526rThank you Jin.18:23
bh526r#info Except those 2 editorial typos, please review if you have any comment18:24
bh526r#info Jin will upload a new patchset to fix the typo.18:24
bh526r#info If there is no other comment by Friday July 28, assuming new patch will be uploaded at that time, this patch will be approved. Bin will take action to merge it18:26
bh526r#info (5) Set environment variables for protonclient18:26
bh526r#info There is 1 editorial comment18:27
jinliI will fix it today together with the previous one18:28
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bh526rGreat, thank you Jin18:28
bh526r#info Jin will upload a new patchset to fix the typo.18:28
bh526r#info Except those 2 editorial typos, please review if you have any comment18:28
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bh526r#info If there is no other comment by Friday July 28, assuming new patchset will be uploaded at that time, this patch will be approved. Bin will take action to merge it18:29
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bh526r#info (6) Gluon object-level authorization18:29
bh526r#info There are 3 editorial comments18:30
pcarverWhat's the purpose of the .bak file?18:31
jinlibin let's test this one together on Friday before we merge it18:31
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jinliPaul that's the original file18:31
pcarverbut what's it for?18:32
pcarverWhy is it in the commit?18:32
jinliwe will remove it after we run test, it is just there for comparing code18:32
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pcarverbut that's what Git is for18:33
pcarverGit already has a backup of all past states of the repository, so what's the point of committing a copy of file to the version control history?18:34
jinliagree, I will remove it after we run test case on Friday18:34
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jinliI keep it there so I can open these two files at the same time in editor18:35
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jinliwhile I modifying the code18:35
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pcarveryou don't need to add it to the commit in order to do that18:36
bh526rsorry that I was disconnected from network for a few minutes18:36
bh526rand I didn't blame our u-verse18:37
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bh526rWhere are we at?18:37
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jinlibin let's test this one together on Friday before we merge it18:37
jinli<pcarver> What's the purpose of the .bak file?18:37
jinli<jinli> Paul that's the original file18:37
jinli<pcarver> but what's it for?18:37
jinli<pcarver> Why is it in the commit?18:37
jinli<jinli> we will remove it after we run test, it is just there for comparing code18:37
jinli<pcarver> but that's what Git is for18:37
jinli<pcarver> Git already has a backup of all past states of the repository, so what's the point of committing a copy of file to the version control history?18:37
jinli<jinli> agree, I will remove it after we run test case on Friday18:37
jinli<jinli> I keep it there so I can open these two files at the same time in editor18:37
jinli<jinli> while I modifying the code18:37
jinli<bh526r> Hi18:37
jinli<pcarver> you don't need to add it to the commit in order to do that18:37
jinli<bh526r> sorry that I was disconnected from network for a few minutes18:37
jinli<bh526r> and I didn't blame our u-verse18:37
bh526rThank you Jin18:38
bh526rOk, let's test it on Friday18:38
bh526r#info (7) Policies in yaml18:38
bh526r#info This one is still a work in progress18:39
jinlisame thing here, we will need to test it on Friday and clean up code before merge18:39
bh526rYup, and perhaps need to rebase based on 3 merges today.18:40
jinli@paul, thank you for your suggestions, will pay attention to that.18:40
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bh526r#info (6) and (7) need further work and review.18:41
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bh526rThat's all from my side18:41
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bh526rAnything else or any update from anyone else?18:41
bh526r#topic AOB18:41
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bh526rIf no other update or nothing else from your side, we can adjourn the meeting and give back everyone 15 minutes18:42
bh526r#info Nothing else18:43
bh526r#info Meeting adjourned18:43
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krenczewskiThanks, bye18:43
bh526rThank you everyone.18:43
bh526rBye all18:43
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fungiaccording to discussion in #storyboard, there's no storyboard meeting today but please review*storyboard.*19:04
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diablo_rojoYes yes, lots of reviews please :)19:12
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notmyname#startmeeting swift21:01
openstackMeeting started Wed Jul 26 21:01:02 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at
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notmynamewho's here for the swift team meeting?21:01
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notmynamehello everyone21:02
notmynametdasilva: ?21:02
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notmynamejoeljwright: !21:03
joeljwrightgood evening21:03
notmynamewelcome everyone21:03
notmynameshould be a quick meeting, I think21:03
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notmyname(I normally think that, though)21:03
notmynamekota_: thanks for chairing the 0700 meeting21:03
notmynameis it mattoliverau or mahatic for the next one?21:04
kota_you're welcome21:04
notmynamemattoliverau: please feel free to ping me about the agenda21:04
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mattoliverauDon't worry I will :)21:05
notmynamequick update on the big docs migration work...21:05
notmyname#topic docs migration21:05
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notmynamestatus: done21:05
notmynameI just reviewed the stuff with dhellmann. I'll land momentarily, and that's it21:05
patchbotpatch 487582 - python-swiftclient - moved cli doc to the right place for new links pro...21:05
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notmynamefurther docs work will continue in our repos, but the migration of content from the -manuals team is done21:06
timburkei saw that -- what was up with it? i don't really "get" that patch...21:06
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notmynamestill definitely a lot to to do to improve docs overall. I want to talk at the ptg about it :-)21:06
notmynametimburke: the redirect goes to /cli/ instead of /cli.html21:06
notmynameie from the main docs pages21:06
joeljwrighttimburke: I was thinking the same :)21:07
notmyname#topic upcoming releases21:07
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_pewp_jungleboyj (。・д・)ノ゙21:07
notmynameI must tag swiftclient today21:07
notmynamethis will be the swiftclient in the pike release21:08
notmyname and are what I'm looking at to see if they will be in21:08
patchbotpatch 475038 - python-swiftclient - Allow for uploads from standard input.21:08
patchbotpatch 478611 - python-swiftclient - Turn stdin uploads into SLO above 10MB.21:08
notmyname..and I see timur just joined :-)21:08
timurhi! :)21:08
notmynameseems likely these will be landable today21:09
notmynametimur: what do you think?21:10
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claygeverything will be awesomer in the future21:10
claygthe future may come sooner than you think - but never soon enough!21:11
timurI just addressed the latest comments from acoles. I think the first patch is ready to merge. The second patch had fewer eyes on it, but Tim looked at it and it seemed ok21:11
claygdoes it not blow up with the unicode inputs anymore?21:11
acolesI just +2'd first one21:11
timurI addressed his comments yesterday. If someone else could look at it, I think we'd be in good shape to merge it as well21:11
claygacoles: is all about the future21:11
notmynameyeah, I think the first one will be pretty easy to be ok with landing21:11
joeljwrightif we can land the 1st one it's be pretty cool21:11
timurclayg: the unicode thing got fixed a little while back21:11
timburketimur: do we log segments as they upload?21:12
notmynamethe question for the second is "should we land the second one today and iterate but have it in a release" or should we not land the second one and not have it in a release for 6-8 weeks21:12
timurtimburke: right -- I meant to do that yesterday and forgot -- will do tha tnow21:13
timurtimburke: to answer the question: current patchset does not log segments21:13
notmynamebut it will be more awesome in the future! like in 30 minutes!21:13
timburkethanks. i think the other two larger concerns i can live with for now21:13
notmynameso that's where we are with swiftclient. any thoughts on that?21:14
notmynamespecifically about timur's second patch landing or not?21:14
joeljwrightthe 2nd one seems much more experimental21:14
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acolessorry I did not get time to look at the second one21:15
joeljwrighthaven't looked at it for a couple of weeks though (sorry)21:15
* clayg shrugs21:15
notmynamethe brits are apologizing like canadians ;-)21:16
joeljwrightsorry ;)21:16
claygtimur: I think we can package whatever sha we want for swiftclient same as swift21:16
claygthey both seem like features to me - so I'm not sure either should "block" an upstream release no matter how great they are21:16
claygwhat is the *other* driver for a swiftclient release (besides getting these awesome new features into the hands of swiftclient users!?)21:17
notmynamea particular product packaging doesn't matter matter as much for swiftclient. most client users will likely get the client from pip, not a distro or product repo21:17
claygbecause if we're doing a feature release (which is fine by me) - let's just wait until it has all the features we want to deliver?21:17
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notmynameclayg: we haven't done one in pike yet, and the deadline for that is tomorrow (ie tag tonight). there's good stuff in it
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patchbotpatch 485859 - python-swiftclient - 3.4.0 authors/changelog update21:18
claygif there's good things we're we're keeping from our users because some new feature isn't ready - let's release what's ready and has broad support and call it a day!?21:18
notmynameyeah, the only reason today is important for swiftclient is because it's the last day for the pike release cycle for clients21:18
claygok, so sounds like merge the new feature with all the +2's and +A's and recent love and reviews - and hold of on the other because - this release is already so awesome you can almost taste it like butter21:18
joeljwrightclayg: +121:19
notmynameso the stream from stdin is a great feature. I'm happy to have just that. but also doing the SLO thing would be even better ;-)21:19
joeljwrightgotta save something for 3.5.0!21:19
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notmynameok, swift itself21:19
claygit's not going to be a big priority for me today with other things going on - but if the stdin needs one more pass for a +A I'm available to merge stuff that's already been beat to death and known to be in good shape ready to merge21:20
notmynameI'd like to tag a swift release later this week (and another in about 4 weeks as a final pike release)21:20
acolestimburke: had a +2 on it before I caused trouble21:20
claygtag *all* the sha's21:20
notmynamethe biggest thing that hasn't landed yet for the next swift release is
patchbotpatch 478416 - swift - Add multiple worker processes strategy to reconstr...21:21
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notmynamewhich I know several of you have been looking at really hard recently21:21
claygtimburke: acoles: thank you *so* much for putting in so much effort to get that change into shape21:21
claygI know people are just going to LOVE it21:21
claygand there's more we can do too!!! whooo hoooo21:21
notmynameI'm somewhat sad that still doesn't have reviews on it, though21:22
patchbotpatch 448480 - swift - DB replicator cleanup21:22
claygif it turns out that acoles and timburke and clayg are the three cores that mostly own that patch... hrmm... maybe I can try to write some more docs or something for folks that need to ramp up on the design more quickly21:22
claygI think the reconstructor design has a section in the ec_overview acctually21:22
claygoh right... yeah Pavel's final cleanup there was pretty gravy21:23
acolesnotmyname: sorry I didn't make it to that one 448480, had hoped to today21:23
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acolesnotmyname:  maybe tomorrow if multi-proc reconstructor is looking good21:23
notmynameit's fine. we aren't as much in a time crunch for swift, and I appreciate your time on the client patch (and the reconstructor patch)21:24
notmynamebuuuut.... /me looks at tdasilva mattoliverau and kota_ ;-)21:24
acolesIIRC mahatic said at 0700 mtg she would try to look at 44848021:24
acolesnotmyname: kota_ has been all over composite builder patch :)21:25
kota_i could have time to look at some patches today21:25
claygi've been really wanting patch 390781 lately too21:25
patchbot - swift - Replace replication_one_per_device by custom count21:25
kota_which one needs eyes rather than?21:25
tdasilvai'll be off for the next few days, but coming back on Tuesday I could take a look at whatever is left21:26
kota_i meant 448480 or 47841621:26
notmynamegood question21:26
kota_but I had dayoff on Friday, be back Monday though21:26
notmynameok. given that, I'm only wanting to see the reconstructor patch in this release21:27
notmynamewe'll have another release very soon (~1 month), and that should include both 448480 and 47841621:27
kota_acoles: nice work on the composite ring builder, great work made me to have time for another review ;)21:27
kota_notmyname: ok, got it.21:27
kota_try it21:28
notmynameoh, sorry. patch 478416 *is* the reconstructor patch. that one is most important21:28
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notmynameI was thinking patch 448480 and patch 39078121:28
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kota_oh, patch 390781 is still there!?21:28
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notmynameso for a strict ordering, patch 478416 then patch 448480 then patch 39078121:29
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notmynamein that order because of the merge conflict on the third one21:30
notmynamesound ok to everyone?21:30
kota_make sense21:30
acolesnotmyname: yes21:30
mattoliverauI'll try and take a look, but like I said in the 0700 meeting, I'm getting in trouble working too much on my "last" week of holidays ;)21:31
notmyname:-) thanks. do what you can21:31
claygnotmyname: I mean... patch 390781 is pretty great, becauase default replication_one_per_device = True is just total garbage/crap21:31
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claygbut... it's not acctually on the priority review page currently I don't think (I'll add it "somewhere")21:31
claygI think we also have e.g. patch 47265921:32
timburkemattoliverau: what if we double -- no, triple! -- your normal pay for this week? ;-)21:32
patchbot - swift - Allow to rebuild a fragment of an expired object21:32
mattoliverautimburke, lol21:32
claygwhich acoles looked at - and is maybe close - but also sort of a big deal21:32
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clayglike I think currently you can't use expiring EC objects without boning your consistency engine if you have a disk failure or rebalance (which is like ~= to "you can't use expiring EC objects")21:33
notmynameyeah, we need to adjust the priority reviews page somewhat. let's focus on the reconstructor patch for this week, then release and adjust the priority reviews page for what we want to see finally in pike21:33
acolesclayg: on that one ^^ I'd love your opinion on the new header name cos apart from that I am close to +221:33
claygoh right, yeah gd, romain - just use x-backend-replication already21:33
acolesis Romain around? maybe I'll just change it21:34
clayglike it should just change to x-backend-ssync or something or whatever - but GAH - get over it - hysterical reasons21:34
notmynameok, updated21:35
notmyname#topic ptg21:35
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notmynamekeep working on that, as you have topics21:35
claygtdasilva: you need to keep advocating for patch 37115021:36
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clayg... in your infinite free time ... assuming it's ready to go and awesome21:36
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notmynamethe 2 days of bug triage at the start of the ptg is a great idea.21:37
tdasilvaclayg: we changed the scope to be just for repl, so i think it's ready to go21:37
notmynamewhat do we need to figure out before that?21:37
mattoliverauWho'll be there for the first 2 days and keen.. and that doesn't mean you can triage before then ;)21:38
torgomaticI'll be around21:38
claygi'm there the whole time - but I don't see why we have to wait to triage!?21:38
mattoliverauLet's add names to the etherpad so people know who to look for21:39
notmynameno need to wait to triage. mattoliverau and tdasilva and timburke have been putting us to shame already ;-)21:39
mattoliverauclayg: exactly21:39
notmynamemattoliverau: good idea. I added that to the
notmynameI will send an email to the -dev list about this too21:40
claygcschwede promised I could start doing triage as soon as he posted the list - that looks like the list!?21:40
notmynamethat's the list!21:40
tdasilvait's probably a good idea to emphasize that the first effort is just to triage, not fix the bugs...don't know if people have been hesitant thinking they have to pick bugs to fix21:40
claygbut umm.. what is that thing about "won't fix" ???21:40
notmynameI fixed the won't fix line21:41
notmynameso what do you want the bug triage days to look like? just getting around a table and starting fromt he top of the list?21:42
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notmynamedo we need anything for that, other that knowing where to meet on site?21:42
mattoliverauDivide and conquer21:42
tdasilvanotmyname: that was my first thought21:42
tdasilvamattoliverau: +121:42
claygnotmyname: let's talk about that closer to the PTG - it's not till september right?21:42
clayglet's focus on what we can get done between then and now?21:42
mattoliverauYeah, if we get triage done we could potentially fix some too :)21:43
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claygi don't want to waste face time doing bug crunching - but if every core can't do 5 a week or whatever it was maybe we have an async bug triage party - or yeah do it in person - probably beers could help pass the time21:43
notmynameheh, yeah. over the next 4 weeks (between now and september), I've got 2 weeks of vacation and a week of on-call for jury duty. I'm already feeling like the PTG is next week ;-)21:43
mattoliveraunotmyname: wow, yeah your outta time21:44
claygnotmyname: ok, well - it *is* close - but I also think cschwede has set us up nice and pretty - we have a list - we have a rough process - let's just do and have a weekly feedback (in this meeting)21:44
claygacoles: timburke: tdasilva: any protips for newbs like me that are hoping to grab ~5/wk?21:45
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notmynameok, then instead of rushing to schedule something more than a month out, consider this your FYI on the bug triage :-)21:45
claygmattoliverau: cc21:45
timburkeclayg: crank through it while you wait on probe tests?21:45
acolesclayg: under-promise, over-deliver :)21:45
claygit'll be great to use the face-to-face to discuss the process21:45
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claygtimburke: acoles: great advice!21:45
claygthere was some proposed additional tags on the eatherpad - do they make sense to use them?21:46
clayglike to tag bugs toward a specific area of the code base?21:46
acolesclayg: so far my tiny contribution was serendipitous, I have failed to make any dent.21:46
claygdo the bugs you find even work like that?21:46
tdasilvaclayg: i've been using them fwiw21:46
acolesclayg: I think the tags listed are now official on lauchpad meaning they will autocomplete in the textbox21:47
claygit looks like mostly mattoliverau and tdasilva - so I guess maybe next week we'll see some different names too and that will be great!21:47
acoleswhich help keep tagging somewhat consistent21:47
tdasilvaclayg: i think especially the needs consensus could be helpful now, ther tags that mark a specific area of the code i'm hoping can be useful in the future ???21:47
claygacoles: WFM!21:47
claygtdasilva: I don't *think* I see any _in bold_21:48
notmynameacoles: tdasilva: consistent tags are great!21:48
claygdoes that mean we don't have any "need consensus" atm - or just that they're all tagged in lp instead of bold'd on the eatherpad?21:48
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tdasilvaclayg: the one 'needs consensus' i had, got resolved ;)21:49
notmynametdasilva: that's great. I was slightly worried about that tag21:50
notmynamethat it would just be a way to defer actualy making a decision21:50
notmynameso the fact it got resolved is great!21:50
tdasilvanotmyname: i was hoping that the round table at the ptg would be a great way to resolve them21:50
notmyname#topic yeah21:50
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tdasilvahigh-bandwidth conversation and get things done21:50
notmyname#topic open discussion21:51
notmynameare there other topics to bring up for this week? anything that someone needs help on?21:51
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notmynameall right, then21:52
notmynameI'll be traveling with limited online access for the next two weeks. not sure yet what that means, if anything, for next week's 2100 meeting21:52
mattoliverauThat'll be a no then21:52
mattoliverauI guess we take it as it comes then21:53
notmynamethank you, everyone, for your work on swift and in the community21:53
notmynameand congrats mattoliverau on your new job :-)21:53
notmynamewe're all very excited for you21:53
mattoliverauTa :)21:54
tdasilvamattoliverau: woohoo! congrats!21:54
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