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| zhiyuan | hi | 00:57 |
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| song | hi | 00:57 |
| xuzhuang | hi | 00:58 |
| Yipei | hi | 00:59 |
| zhiyuan | let's start our meeting | 01:00 |
| zhiyuan | #startmeeting tricircle | 01:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 11 01:00:09 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhiyuan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 01:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 01:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: tricircle)" | 01:00 | |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'tricircle' | 01:00 |
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| song | hello I am song from szzt. last week we fininshed the tricircle qos test case . and we have | 01:00 |
| song | pass all in ourself dev envirment.But we heared that the test envirment has some problem | 01:00 |
| song | so we do not push the pr until the test envirment is ok. | 01:00 |
| joehuang | hello | 01:00 |
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| song | morning | 01:01 |
| zhiyuan | to song, yes, that's the first topic I would like to discuss | 01:01 |
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| zhiyuan | #topic zull v3 check | 01:01 |
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| zhiyuan | infra team is migrating zuul from v2 to v3, and it is not stable enough currently | 01:02 |
| zhiyuan | but according to the message from the mail list, "It is however non-gating, in the sense that it will not attempt to | 01:03 |
| zhiyuan | merge a change nor prevent it from merging. | 01:03 |
| zhiyuan | " | 01:03 |
| song | so we push the qos test pr until it is stable enough,how about? | 01:03 |
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| zhiyuan | so I think if the patch passes the jenkins check pipeline, we just merge the patch? | 01:04 |
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| joehuang | Infra should provide a stage phase for zuul V2 | 01:04 |
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| zhiyuan | like this patch: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508496/ | 01:04 |
| song | agree with it | 01:04 |
| RonghUI | hi all sorry for late | 01:05 |
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| zhiyuan | the patch above also fix the configuration of rabbitmq, which affects the jenkins check | 01:05 |
| joehuang_ | hello | 01:06 |
| zhiyuan | hi joe | 01:06 |
| joehuang_ | there are should be v2 and v3 job in paralell | 01:06 |
| joehuang_ | and make sure v2 jobs are still working | 01:06 |
| joehuang_ | and v3 jobs can be non-voting jobs | 01:07 |
| joehuang_ | after v3 jobs and zuul v3 become stable, switch v2 jobs to v3 jobs | 01:07 |
| zhiyuan | as the test result of patch 508496 shows, both jenkins and zuul pipeline are running | 01:07 |
| Yipei | there does exist some problem with the configuration of rabbitmq, making the installation fail | 01:07 |
| Yipei | yesterday, i tried to install tricircle with devstack, it fails | 01:08 |
| zhiyuan | to yipei, yes, it's fixed in 508496 | 01:08 |
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| joehuang_ | so we should merge 508496 anyway | 01:08 |
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| RonghUI | yes | 01:08 |
| zhiyuan | i think so, since zuul pipeline is non-gating | 01:08 |
| joehuang_ | legacy-tricircle-dsvm-functionalPOST_FAILURE in 28m 53s | 01:09 |
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| joehuang_ | legacy-tricircle-dsvm-multiregionRETRY_LIMIT in 4m 04s | 01:09 |
| joehuang_ | both these two jobs only in zuul v3 not working | 01:10 |
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| joehuang_ | ok, approve the patch to be merged first | 01:10 |
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| zhiyuan | yes, sometimes the ansible master fails to connect to other nodes so it fails to post the logs | 01:10 |
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| zhiyuan | it's also said that infra team is planning to roll forward out of the partial Zuul v3 rollback starting at 11:00 UTC on Wednesday October 11 | 01:12 |
| zhiyuan | so there wil be some CI downtime | 01:12 |
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| RonghUI | that's too regretful | 01:13 |
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| zhiyuan | ok, the jenkins gate pipeline is working | 01:15 |
| zhiyuan | from zuul.openstack.org | 01:15 |
| zhiyuan | but i notice the python27 test fails :( | 01:15 |
| zhiyuan | i will update the patch later | 01:16 |
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| joehuang_ | almost all failure. | 01:17 |
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| joehuang_ | The following packages have unmet dependencies: libcurl4-gnutls-dev : Depends: libcurl3-gnutls (= 7.47.0-1ubuntu2.2) but 7.47.0-1ubuntu2.3 is to be installed | 01:18 |
| joehuang_ | maybe because some requirements update not merged | 01:18 |
| zhiyuan | oops | 01:19 |
| joehuang_ | or recheck | 01:19 |
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| RonghUI | i just see the requirements update patch from OpenStack Proposal Bot, all failure | 01:20 |
| zhiyuan | for dependency issue like this, I think the global requirement needs to be updated | 01:20 |
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| RonghUI | you mean we should manual upgrade the global requirement? | 01:21 |
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| zhiyuan | oh, it seems that it's the dependency issue of app, not python library | 01:24 |
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| RonghUI | ok | 01:25 |
| zhiyuan | i will check the mail list to see if there's some discussion about this | 01:25 |
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| zhiyuan | #topic queens-1 plan | 01:25 |
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| zhiyuan | queens-1 deadline is from Oct16 to Oct20 | 01:26 |
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| zhiyuan | i feel like we have risk to finish our plan for queens-1 | 01:27 |
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| zhiyuan | lb, default group update, user distinguish are targeted in queens-1 | 01:28 |
| xuzhuang | For default security group update i havecommited the first version code. | 01:28 |
| Yipei | i will submit the configuration guide this week, hope it can work in other environments | 01:29 |
| zhiyuan | i see it. there may be several runs of modification for it | 01:29 |
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| Yipei | still don't know why the amphora doesn't work, very annoying | 01:30 |
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| zhiyuan | will test it | 01:32 |
| dongfeng | About tricircle client, new patch for job pagination is committed. | 01:33 |
| zhiyuan | do we need to postpone lb to queens-2? | 01:33 |
| Yipei | to zhiyuan, if the configuration guide works, i think don't need to postpone it | 01:34 |
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| xuzhuang | And there are some problems, i haven't find the solution. Waiting for your review | 01:36 |
| zhiyuan | it may also be some midifications on the configuration guide | 01:36 |
| Yipei | ok, i see, so we postpone it to queens-2 | 01:36 |
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| zhiyuan | it seems that joe is temporary offline | 01:39 |
| joehuang_ | hello, just come back | 01:39 |
| joehuang_ | seems lots of our work were blocked by infra-issue | 01:40 |
| zhiyuan | yes, so we are talking about that we may have risk to finish the queens-1 plan | 01:40 |
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| joehuang_ | we can move these to queens-2 | 01:41 |
| joehuang_ | tricircle is not strict mile-stone aligned project | 01:42 |
| joehuang_ | we can adjust the milestone date if needed | 01:42 |
| joehuang_ | https://releases.openstack.org/reference/release_models.html | 01:43 |
| joehuang_ | our release model is "cycle-with-intermediary", https://releases.openstack.org/reference/release_models.html#cycle-with-intermediary | 01:43 |
| joehuang_ | no need to strict follow community milestone date, sure it'll be better if we can. | 01:44 |
| zhiyuan | ic, so do we tag queens-1 around Oct16 to Oct20? at least the integration test with nova cell v2 is done | 01:44 |
| joehuang_ | of course we can, it's a great step to work with cells v2 | 01:45 |
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| zhiyuan | ok, hopefully the py27 error can be fixed soon | 01:46 |
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| song | hi,all.the qos test case are most made by szzt team xiaohan zhang and he is very family with the openstack especially with the openstack network.so what next plan we can do? | 01:47 |
| zhiyuan | we have a schedule in this page: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/tricircle-queens-ptg | 01:48 |
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| zhiyuan | what about this: Network deletion reliability | 01:50 |
| song | ok, we will see this detail after the meeting and choose one. | 01:50 |
| zhiyuan | ronghui first would like to have a try but not confirmed yet, so there is a "TBD" | 01:51 |
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| zhiyuan | fine, we can talk about the detail offline | 01:52 |
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| song | thank you. we will seen it after the meeting.and conform it a little later. | 01:52 |
| zjt | ok | 01:52 |
| joehuang_ | I found the etherpad is not linked to wiki page, just working on it | 01:53 |
| zhiyuan | thanks, joe | 01:53 |
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| zhiyuan | any other topic? | 01:55 |
| RonghUI | no for me | 01:55 |
| xuzhuang | no for me | 01:55 |
| dongfeng | no for me | 01:55 |
| zjt | nor | 01:55 |
| Yipei | no | 01:55 |
| joehuang_ | no | 01:55 |
| song | no | 01:56 |
| zhiyuan | ok, thanks for attending the meeting | 01:56 |
| zhiyuan | #endmeeting | 01:56 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 01:56 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 11 01:56:39 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-10-11-01.00.html | 01:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-10-11-01.00.txt | 01:56 |
| song | bye | 01:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/tricircle/2017/tricircle.2017-10-11-01.00.log.html | 01:56 |
| zhiyuan | bye | 01:56 |
| zjt | bye | 01:56 |
| Yipei | bye | 01:56 |
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| b1airo | hello all | 11:00 |
| khappone | Hello blair & co | 11:01 |
| b1airo | #startmeeting scientific_wg | 11:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 11 11:01:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is b1airo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 11:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 11:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: scientific_wg)" | 11:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'scientific_wg' | 11:01 |
| b1airo | #chair martial | 11:01 |
| openstack | Current chairs: b1airo martial | 11:01 |
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| b1airo | #topic Roll call - wave if you are "here" | 11:02 |
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| enolfc | hi | 11:03 |
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| b1airo | hi enolfc | 11:03 |
| khappone | *wave* | 11:03 |
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| b1airo | khappone, i take it that is Kalle from CSC? | 11:03 |
| khappone | b1airo: correct | 11:03 |
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| b1airo | don't think i have seen you for a while, hope you're doing well! | 11:04 |
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| b1airo | #topic Agenda | 11:05 |
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| khappone | Yes! It's been a while! You know how it is, busy :) | 11:05 |
| b1airo | indeed! | 11:05 |
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| khappone | And trying to keep up with 4 other forums where scientific openstack is discussed :) | 11:05 |
| b1airo | I think today may be a quick one, but we'll see... on the agenda thus far I have: | 11:05 |
| b1airo | Sydney Summit session prep | 11:05 |
| b1airo | Monash OpenStack HPC expansion plans | 11:05 |
| b1airo | Mellanox SR-IOV / RoCE tuning shenanigans | 11:05 |
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| b1airo | and I am personally interested to recap on the Image Naming Conventions discussion from last week that I missed | 11:06 |
| khappone | I.. https://github.com/CSCfi/CloudImageRecommendations | 11:06 |
| khappone | Yes, I was going to ask if that could be discussed in this timezone | 11:06 |
| martial | wavy thingie :) | 11:06 |
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| b1airo | hi martial :-) | 11:06 |
| simon-AS559 | Hello, sorry for joining late. | 11:06 |
| martial | hi Blair, as mentioned, getting one kid out the door :) | 11:06 |
| b1airo | alright, so topic #1... | 11:07 |
| b1airo | no probs martial - you better go martial your kid... ;-) | 11:07 |
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| b1airo | #topic Sydney Summit | 11:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Sydney Summit (Meeting topic: scientific_wg)" | 11:07 | |
| b1airo | the summit is coming up fast, who's coming? | 11:08 |
| b1airo | I know Stig and martial are | 11:08 |
| khappone | I can't sadly make it, nor my colleagues | 11:08 |
| simon-AS559 | zioproto is, I'm not. | 11:08 |
| simon-AS559 | (He's busy on another line right now.) | 11:08 |
| b1airo | hi simon-AS559, that's a shame, but good that zioproto will be there at least | 11:08 |
| zioproto | I am here | 11:09 |
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| martial | b1airo: instilling discipline ... check :) | 11:09 |
| b1airo | it's about this time we normally start compiling a list of sessions of interest to sciencey inclined folks | 11:09 |
| b1airo | plus we have our own sessions to plan and promote - there is a Scientific BOF session and a Scientific Lightning Talk session | 11:10 |
| enolfc | I'm still not sure if I will be able to make it | 11:10 |
| martial | and we have two forum sessions that we ought to hear back on this week | 11:11 |
| b1airo | enolfc, if you need an official invite I can have a chat with Malcolm... | 11:11 |
| b1airo | martial, yes that's right | 11:11 |
| b1airo | martial, do you recall if we already started an etherpad for lightning talk possibilities? | 11:12 |
| enolfc | thanks b1airo, official invite in principle not needed | 11:12 |
| b1airo | i thought we might have but am not having much luck finding a link... | 11:12 |
| martial | b1airo: I believe so, but I might be wrong | 11:13 |
| zioproto | I did not see any link | 11:14 |
| b1airo | ok, well i have minted a new one and if we find an old one (i haven't done a decent search of the previous IRC logs yet) then we can copy that content in | 11:14 |
| b1airo | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sydney-scientific-sig-lightning-talks | 11:14 |
| priteau | Hello! | 11:14 |
| priteau | There is also https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/Scientific-Sydney17-Forum | 11:14 |
| priteau | with some content already, not sure if that's the lightning talks? | 11:15 |
| martial | I checked the ones we listed on the September 27th meeting but they are not needed anymore | 11:15 |
| b1airo | hi priteau! | 11:15 |
| b1airo | thanks, yes that was for some quick forum session brain storming (something we sort of failed to coordinate very well i'm sorry) | 11:15 |
| martial | we got two that are not "refused" yet :) | 11:16 |
| b1airo | so, if you are going to be in Sydney and have a story to tell, please add your name, topic and two sentence outline to that new etherpad | 11:16 |
| b1airo | here it is again: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/sydney-scientific-sig-lightning-talks | 11:16 |
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| martial | b1airo: we ought to post on the ML as well at this point | 11:18 |
| b1airo | yes martial , i will follow up on that later | 11:18 |
| martial | I know it is hard to get people to both meetings | 11:18 |
| b1airo | #action b1airo to post to ML re. lightning talks | 11:18 |
| martial | depending on the number of proposals, we might need to have a vote | 11:19 |
| b1airo | ok, that is probably enough on that. i'll also mint another etherpad to use as a scientific summit guide, i.e., place to note done sessions of interest to start your personal agenda off | 11:19 |
| b1airo | martial, yeah possibly - let's cross that bridge if we get to it | 11:19 |
| b1airo | ok, next thing was from me... | 11:20 |
| martial | agreed, was looking for the time we had per session | 11:20 |
| b1airo | #topic Monash OpenStack HPC expansion plans | 11:20 |
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| b1airo | I kind of disappeared down a rabbit hole the last month - just as I should have been helping with book chapter reviews (sorry!) | 11:21 |
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| b1airo | the reason for that is we are embarking on a major uplift of the system (M3) we built a little of a year ago | 11:21 |
| b1airo | s/of/over/ | 11:22 |
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| b1airo | not sure how interested people are in hearing about new kit etc so i'll keep this brief and you can ask me questions if you have any more interest | 11:22 |
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| b1airo | a few months ago it became apparent that our present compute capability was not going to be sufficient to service all the expected new demand over the next 3-12 months | 11:23 |
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| b1airo | there are a few new and upgraded instruments around Monash University that are coming online and, once fully operational, will produce a lot of data, all of which needs heavy computational workflows of one kind or other to produce science results | 11:25 |
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| martial | what was your "expected use" vs "okay we really need"? | 11:25 |
| b1airo | it's mostly the later | 11:25 |
| b1airo | *latter (can't spell tonight) | 11:25 |
| b1airo | anyway, a strategic proposal (read: plea) was put into the Research Portfolio and after a lot of scrambling to find unspent money and a few raids we will be adding around 2PB of Lustre, 2800 cores, 60 V100s | 11:27 |
| martial | wow | 11:28 |
| martial | pretty nice | 11:28 |
| b1airo | and some cups and string for them all to talk | 11:28 |
| khappone | All of them under OpenStack? | 11:28 |
| b1airo | khappone, yes, in one way or another... | 11:28 |
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| khappone | Lustre? | 11:29 |
| martial | the cups and strings will work ... plus they can have coffee in the unused cups :) | 11:29 |
| b1airo | we are also just kicking off some work to get started with Ironic, planning to use it mainly as an internal management/deployment tool at first and then transition into a user-facing service | 11:29 |
| b1airo | the actual bare-metal versus KVM split for the main HPC workloads is not yet determined, but probably a large amount bare-metal now | 11:30 |
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| khappone | Is the workload expected to be true HPC or more HTC? | 11:31 |
| b1airo | the Lustre capacity is expansion only, no new servers, just several hundred new disks | 11:31 |
| enolfc | since you mention KVM, have you tested LXD? | 11:31 |
| b1airo | khappone, it is small scale HPC - several of the primary use-cases commonly use ~4-8 node MPI jobs | 11:32 |
| b1airo | but it is mostly data-centric processing | 11:32 |
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| khappone | Great. Just curious about the direction others are going in, and their architectural choices | 11:33 |
| b1airo | some of the MPI jobs are just using MPI for coordination, not any shared-memory or messaging | 11:33 |
| b1airo | enolfc, no we haven't tried LXD yet, but I am LXD-curious - have you any experience? | 11:33 |
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| b1airo | it would probably be a worthwhile investment of time though | 11:34 |
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| b1airo | we have really pushed KVM in terms of tuning and it can provide almost bare-metal performance, but there is also an overhead in hitting issues etc that we are starting to have difficulty keeping up with along with the amount of infra we're now operating | 11:35 |
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| b1airo | ok, no more questions on that. we can move onto something semi-related... | 11:37 |
| b1airo | #topic Mellanox SR-IOV / RoCE tuning shenanigans | 11:37 |
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| b1airo | one thing we do for our virtualised HPC is use SR-IOV to get our data/mpi networks into guests | 11:37 |
| b1airo | when we bought in some new P100 nodes (Intel Broadwell) earlier in the year we had this weird issue where we could not run 28 core MPI jobs, i.e., all cores in a node | 11:38 |
| b1airo | IIRC it worked up to 27 cores and then died with an MXM error at 28 cores | 11:39 |
| priteau | Sounds like a fun bug | 11:40 |
| b1airo | anyway, that turns out to be courtesy of Mellanox's HCOLL functionality | 11:40 |
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| b1airo | which is part of their Fabric Collectives Accelerator | 11:40 |
| khappone | Yeah! I'm sitting on the edge if my chair waiting for blair to type faster | 11:41 |
| b1airo | haha | 11:41 |
| b1airo | oddly, FCA is on by default, but so far as I can tell it only really helps properly big parallel workloads | 11:41 |
| b1airo | (though we are yet to benchmark on-versus-off to confirm that) | 11:42 |
| khappone | FCA took one core for itself or something similar? | 11:42 |
| b1airo | anyway, disabling hcoll allows bigger numprocs jobs - the problem is with memory allocation | 11:42 |
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| b1airo | the device driver appears to need more memory when using these oflloads | 11:43 |
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| khappone | Is this solution documented anywhere where google will find it if we hit it later? | 11:44 |
| b1airo | Mellanox recommended tuning the PF_LOG_BAR_SIZE and VF_LOG_BAR_SIZE firmware config parameters to fix this properly, rather than disabling HCOLL | 11:45 |
| b1airo | so we diligently did this and then our server would not boot! | 11:45 |
| martial | seems this topic #2 is not into topic #3 :) | 11:46 |
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| b1airo | sadly some BIOS' prevent mapping the BAR over addresses which surpass 4GB | 11:46 |
| b1airo | and that can then cause the device to hang | 11:47 |
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| b1airo | and I guess for these Dell servers they do not continue bootup with devices in such a state | 11:47 |
| b1airo | khappone, so far this is all in a support case with Mellanox - but they have reproduced and I believe they will be addressing with Dell too | 11:48 |
| khappone | Ok, good to know | 11:48 |
| b1airo | once we have determined the BAR tuning fixes the problem I will post about it on the Mellanox community forums | 11:49 |
| b1airo | there is one other brief thing to mention on Mellanox tuning if you are using Ethernet | 11:49 |
| b1airo | for RoCE workloads they recommend tuning the device ring-buffers, i.e., increasing them from default | 11:50 |
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| b1airo | recently we hit some OOMs and as a result noticed that increasing the RX & TX ring-buffers on a single port to 8192 respectively ate another ~3.5GB of memory | 11:51 |
| b1airo | this is not intuitive (or documented) until you know that the ring-buffer is a per-core resource | 11:52 |
| khappone | Yes. I had to dig into linux networking and ring buffer internals a while back. | 11:53 |
| b1airo | and each ring-buffer "slot" takes the amount of memory required to fit a frame into, e.g. for 9000 MTU that will be 3 pages per frame (12K) | 11:53 |
| khappone | This tuning is done on the VM side if you use SR-IOV? | 11:53 |
| b1airo | no it's host-side on the PF, so the OOM we hit was QEMU being killed :-( | 11:53 |
| b1airo | alright, let's briefly talk about he image guidelines in the last few mins! | 11:54 |
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| khappone | Ok | 11:54 |
| khappone | Yes | 11:54 |
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| b1airo | #topic Cloud Image Recommendations / Standardisation | 11:54 |
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| khappone | Background: We spend too much time with our image creation and management. We make some "important" local site-specific tweaks | 11:55 |
| b1airo | khappone, i am interested in your work because we also did something similar for Nectar a while back in a project i lef | 11:55 |
| b1airo | *led | 11:55 |
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| khappone | Pretty much each NREN/scientific site I've talked to have had the same issues | 11:55 |
| martial | IS that somehow related to what Stif shared in the past https://galaxy.ansible.com/stackhpc/ ? | 11:55 |
| martial | (stig) | 11:56 |
| khappone | no. | 11:56 |
| khappone | https://github.com/CSCfi/CloudImageRecommendations | 11:56 |
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| khappone | After discussing, we realized that each site has "Important local tweaks", but most of them don't overlap at all, so we started questioning the needs to do any local tweaks | 11:57 |
| b1airo | khappone, i agree - images are a bit of a drain | 11:57 |
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| khappone | based on that I wrote a document with recommendations how to manage images for scientific sites. Basically it lists images, their sources, and suggested naming, It says don't touch them, just upload them and keep them up to date | 11:58 |
| martial | looked at the page, very nice. I like the fact that images are updated regularily | 11:58 |
| b1airo | ok, i see this work is more about high-level standardisation across clouds - that's good, doesn't really overlap too much with what we were working on, which is about a process for users contributing images into the cloud: https://support.ehelp.edu.au/support/solutions/articles/6000173077-contributed-images-submission-guide | 11:59 |
| khappone | The idea is that many sites would have identical images, and identical image management processes. The benefits would be that tools could be shared, and that sites could trusts that any appliances that are built on these don't have unnecessary site-specific tweaks | 11:59 |
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| b1airo | i'm curious about the tweaks you came up with... | 12:00 |
| b1airo | (the list of, i mean) | 12:00 |
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| khappone | E.g. we could build CUDA images, and it would be the base image + cuda, with no strange our tweaks. This means anybody conforming to this could just take it, point their automation to the source of the image and basically have it with zero effort | 12:00 |
| b1airo | oh dear - we are over time! khappone, do you want to join me in #scientific-wg channel to continue discussing for another 5 mins? | 12:01 |
| khappone | b1airo: sure | 12:01 |
| b1airo | thank you all! | 12:01 |
| b1airo | #endmeeting | 12:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 11 12:01:37 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 12:01 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_wg/2017/scientific_wg.2017-10-11-11.01.html | 12:01 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_wg/2017/scientific_wg.2017-10-11-11.01.txt | 12:01 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/scientific_wg/2017/scientific_wg.2017-10-11-11.01.log.html | 12:01 |
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| witek | #startmeeting monasca | 14:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 11 14:00:23 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 14:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'monasca' | 14:00 |
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| witek | Hello everyone | 14:00 |
| sc | yo | 14:01 |
| koji | o/ | 14:01 |
| joadavis | hello | 14:01 |
| witek | agenda as always: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/monasca-team-meeting-agenda | 14:01 |
| witek | looks light for today | 14:01 |
| nseyvet | hello | 14:02 |
| jgr | Hello | 14:02 |
| witek | #topic Queens priorities | 14:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Queens priorities (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 14:02 | |
| witek | https://review.openstack.org/507534 | 14:02 |
| witek | I have updated the page | 14:02 |
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| witek | would like to merge it soon | 14:03 |
| witek | I would like to ask the owners to add short description of the defined priorities | 14:03 |
| witek | we also have some unassigned items | 14:04 |
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| sc | as usual I have a meeting strarting righ now ;-) | 14:04 |
| akiraY | sorry, it's hard to join this meeting. | 14:04 |
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| witek | should we think of different time for meeting? | 14:05 |
| akiraY | (today) | 14:05 |
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| akiraY | i don't think so. | 14:06 |
| witek | akiraY: I think it's most difficult for you (and others in Japan) | 14:06 |
| joadavis | I'm ok with this time, but I am not a regular, so I don't count. ;) | 14:07 |
| koji | no problem for me :) | 14:07 |
| nseyvet | no pb here. | 14:08 |
| witek | cool, let's move on then | 14:08 |
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| witek | any questions to prios? | 14:08 |
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| joadavis | No, I'll add a quick description as another patch | 14:09 |
| witek | joadavis: thanks | 14:09 |
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| sgrasley1 | +1 | 14:09 |
| witek | #topic Queens-1 milestone | 14:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Queens-1 milestone (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 14:09 | |
| witek | we're reaching the first Queens milestone next week | 14:10 |
| witek | I'll be tagging the repos | 14:10 |
| joadavis | Cool. I'm sure you have it covered, but just in case, please be sure monasca-transform and monasca-ceilometer are included in your tag list | 14:11 |
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| witek | yes, we'll include | 14:11 |
| witek | we still have problems with Zuul jobs | 14:12 |
| witek | the migration at openstack-infra is in progress | 14:12 |
| jgr | Is there any word on how long it will take? | 14:13 |
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| jgr | Among other things that's blocking https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504400/ which is in turn blocking Monasca on Pike for SUSE... | 14:13 |
| witek | they wanted to rollout the new version today, but haven't due to unrelated issues | 14:13 |
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| jgr | For if it takes a lot longer I'll just add that patch to our package locally :-) | 14:14 |
| witek | I'm afraid I cannot predict right now | 14:14 |
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| witek | #topic oslo policy | 14:16 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "oslo policy (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 14:16 | |
| witek | jgr: your stage | 14:16 |
| jgr | witek: thanks :-) | 14:16 |
| jgr | https://review.openstack.org/511245 | 14:16 |
| jgr | So I finished the first draft of the spec for using oslo.policy in monasca-{api,log-api} | 14:17 |
| jgr | It gives a rough outline of what we'd need to do to use oslo.policy and fulfill that community goal about policy in code | 14:18 |
| jgr | It's fairly straightforward for monasca-api because policy enforcement is mostly centralized there. It's not so straightforward for monasca-log-api because policy enforcement for monasca-log-api is all over the place. | 14:19 |
| jgr | I still hope to find a volunteer to implement this... :-) | 14:19 |
| jgr | I've done some research and identified most of the places that would need modifying, but I don't think I'll have the spare cycles to implement both this and https://review.openstack.org/511245 | 14:20 |
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| jgr | So...any takers? | 14:20 |
| witek | if there are no volunteers I can take it | 14:21 |
| jgr | That'd be great | 14:21 |
| nseyvet | humm witek I think we could handle it | 14:22 |
| nseyvet | if u want | 14:22 |
| witek | nseyvet: cool | 14:22 |
| jgr | Also, I can definitely ride shotgun on it (review, comment, help) | 14:22 |
| jgr | I think I'll find time for that much :-) | 14:23 |
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| nseyvet | Amir will handle it. | 14:23 |
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| witek | great | 14:23 |
| witek | that's really cool, let's review the spec then and Amir can start implementing | 14:25 |
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| nseyvet | sounds good. | 14:26 |
| witek | thanks nseyvet | 14:26 |
| witek | #topic Cassandra | 14:26 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Cassandra (Meeting topic: monasca)" | 14:26 | |
| witek | is jgu there? | 14:27 |
| jgu | witek: I am here | 14:27 |
| witek | your stage :) | 14:27 |
| jgu | I finished the monasca api and persister (Java) to support cassandra. I think it's ready for review. | 14:28 |
| witek | great | 14:28 |
| jgu | I created a story board and added link to the etherpad. do you want me to add the sotry board link to the review comments? | 14:28 |
| witek | to the commit messages only | 14:29 |
| witek | thanks | 14:29 |
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| jgu | witek: sorry that's what I meant... commit msg. still trying to wake up | 14:29 |
| witek | :) | 14:29 |
| jgu | sgrasley is working on the performance benchmark tool. do you prefer to add a perf testing folder in api and persister or have a new project? | 14:30 |
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| witek | is it Cassandra specific or general? | 14:31 |
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| jgu | general, testing against kafka+persister and monasca rest api. | 14:31 |
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| witek | it might be worth adding to monasca-api, does he has already some code to take a look at? | 14:32 |
| jgu | not yet ready to send up for review | 14:32 |
| witek | if we have some generic perf testing we could thing of adding rally gate jobs | 14:33 |
| jgu | that'd be cool. do you know what kind of hardware and deployment config on the rally gate? | 14:34 |
| witek | no, would have to investigate | 14:34 |
| jgu | okay | 14:35 |
| witek | so, if the code is something that we potentially could integrate in CI, it definitely makes sense to add existing repos | 14:36 |
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| jgu | okay, that makes sense. | 14:36 |
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| witek | anything else on Cassandra? | 14:38 |
| jgu | no, thanks! | 14:38 |
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| witek | any other topics? | 14:40 |
| Fouad_Benamrane | witek: Hello | 14:40 |
| witek | hi | 14:40 |
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| Fouad_Benamrane | witek: I've written a new agent for network congestion, how can I propose it. | 14:41 |
| Fouad_Benamrane | for review | 14:41 |
| witek | as the first step you should create a story with short description in StoryBoard | 14:42 |
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| witek | if you have the code already, submit the code to review with the reference to the story | 14:42 |
| Fouad_Benamrane | witek: the link please. | 14:42 |
| witek | https://docs.openstack.org/monasca-api/latest/contributor/index.html | 14:43 |
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| Fouad_Benamrane | witek: ok, I will submit the description and the code for review. | 14:44 |
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| witek | thanks | 14:44 |
| Fouad_Benamrane | witek: thank you | 14:44 |
| witek | I understand you have a new plugin | 14:45 |
| witek | for agent, right? | 14:45 |
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| Fouad_Benamrane | witek: yes a new agent plugin. | 14:46 |
| witek | what metrics does it provide? | 14:46 |
| Fouad_Benamrane | witek: it sends the packets and bytes and source of congestion. It's based on ECN marked packets | 14:47 |
| witek | OK, I'm interested to see your change, thanks | 14:48 |
| Fouad_Benamrane | witek: Thank you for your help. | 14:49 |
| witek | you're welcome :) | 14:49 |
| Fouad_Benamrane | :) | 14:49 |
| witek | some more topics? | 14:49 |
| witek | if not, I'll be closing | 14:50 |
| witek | thank you everyone | 14:50 |
| joadavis | thanks | 14:50 |
| sgrasley1 | Thanks | 14:50 |
| witek | bye | 14:50 |
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| witek | #endmeeting | 14:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 14:51 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 11 14:51:03 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-10-11-14.00.html | 14:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-10-11-14.00.txt | 14:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/monasca/2017/monasca.2017-10-11-14.00.log.html | 14:51 |
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| ad_rien_ | #startmeeting massively_distributed_clouds | 15:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 11 15:00:08 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ad_rien_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'massively_distributed_clouds' | 15:00 |
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| ad_rien_ | #chair ad_rien_ parus | 15:00 |
| openstack | Current chairs: ad_rien_ parus | 15:00 |
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| ad_rien_ | #topic roll call | 15:00 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "roll call (Meeting topic: massively_distributed_clouds)" | 15:00 | |
| parus | Good Morning / Afternoon :-) | 15:00 |
| ad_rien_ | Hi guys | 15:00 |
| dancn | hi! | 15:00 |
| ansmith | o/ | 15:00 |
| georgk | hi | 15:01 |
| kgiusti | hey! | 15:01 |
| ad_rien_ | Please do not forget to add your name in the pad | 15:01 |
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| ad_rien_ | #info agenda | 15:01 |
| ad_rien_ | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/massivfbely_distributed_ircmeetings_2017 (line 1314) | 15:01 |
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| jamemcc_ | Hi | 15:02 |
| ad_rien_ | Hi jamemcc_ | 15:02 |
| ad_rien_ | anyone else? | 15:02 |
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| ad_rien_ | ok so let's start | 15:03 |
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| ad_rien_ | So today I would like to change a bit the way we manage the announcement | 15:03 |
| ad_rien_ | (just to try to be as fruiftull as possible) | 15:03 |
| ad_rien_ | So latest news are on the pad. | 15:03 |
| ad_rien_ | if you have questions / comments , please feel free ;) | 15:03 |
| ad_rien_ | The same, please if you want to add some elements | 15:04 |
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| ad_rien_ | do not hesitate to complete the current items | 15:04 |
| ad_rien_ | thanks | 15:04 |
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| jamemcc_ | ok, good approach s we usually use up all the time | 15:05 |
| ad_rien_ | ok any comments | 15:05 |
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| ad_rien_ | ok so let's focus on the on going activities | 15:05 |
| ad_rien_ | #topic announcement | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "announcement (Meeting topic: massively_distributed_clouds)" | 15:05 | |
| ad_rien_ | please see the pad | 15:05 |
| ad_rien_ | #topic on-going activities | 15:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "on-going activities (Meeting topic: massively_distributed_clouds)" | 15:05 | |
| ad_rien_ | Who starts ? | 15:06 |
| ad_rien_ | Daniele? | 15:06 |
| ad_rien_ | could you please tell us a few words regarding your presentation? | 15:06 |
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| dancn | I will add a recap on behalf of dsantoro on the ehterpad | 15:06 |
| rcherrueau | o/ (sorry I am late) | 15:06 |
| Alexvk | Hi everyone | 15:06 |
| ad_rien_ | dancn: ACK ;) | 15:06 |
| dancn | point that may require a discussion: | 15:07 |
| dancn | somebody will be at https://www.fogworldcongress.com/ ? | 15:07 |
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| * ad_rien_ is looking for dates/locations | 15:08 | |
| dancn | October 30 - November 1, 2017 | Santa Clara, CA | 15:08 |
| ad_rien_ | not from Inria | 15:08 |
| dancn | This setup is enough stable for our demo, we do not plan to work aggressively on those issues, but if you have suggestion please go ahead! | 15:09 |
| ad_rien_ | will someone from FBK attend this event? | 15:09 |
| dancn | yes Silvio Cretti and Domenico Siracusa | 15:09 |
| dancn | they are currenly "area head" of a couples of areas (cloud and networking) here in FBK | 15:10 |
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| ad_rien_ | ok | 15:10 |
| ad_rien_ | will you (FBK) present something? | 15:10 |
| ad_rien_ | ok | 15:10 |
| ad_rien_ | sorry | 15:11 |
| ad_rien_ | forget my question | 15:11 |
| ad_rien_ | the answer is on the text you copied/pasted | 15:11 |
| dancn | sorry, maybe I pasted too much info in the ehterpad | 15:11 |
| ad_rien_ | :) | 15:11 |
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| pramchan_ | #info pramchan | 15:11 |
| ad_rien_ | dancn: sorry should we discuss one particular point? | 15:11 |
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| ad_rien_ | there is indeed several informations in the text you pasted | 15:12 |
| pramchan_ | #is there a Audio call to connect to link please? | 15:12 |
| ad_rien_ | no pramchan_ | 15:12 |
| dancn | only this point: | 15:12 |
| pramchan_ | OK | 15:12 |
| dancn | This setup is enough stable for our demo, we do not plan to work aggressively on those issues, but if you have suggestion please go ahead! | 15:12 |
| ad_rien_ | pramchan_: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/massively_distributed_ircmeetings_2017 line 1313 | 15:12 |
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| parus | dancn: question | 15:13 |
| ad_rien_ | dancn: regarding the issue line 1362. Are you in touch with Neutron developpers? | 15:13 |
| parus | at line 1354 you say default is to route to controller. | 15:13 |
| ad_rien_ | it may make sense to contact them | 15:13 |
| parus | But if I read this right when you installed DVR, you did route directly? | 15:14 |
| dancn | ad_rien_: no contact, maybe somebody here can introuce us, or maybe we can have a joint talk in person in sydney | 15:14 |
| dancn | parus: the dvr_snat was installed on the edge node | 15:15 |
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| dancn | it seems to be possile to have different dvr_snat in different nodes | 15:16 |
| parus | Yes | 15:16 |
| dancn | but we werent able to configure them in a progammatical way | 15:16 |
| dancn | . | 15:16 |
| msimonin | Since it's kolla based deployment, maybe there's something missing in Kolla ? | 15:16 |
| ad_rien_ | dancn: my proposal is to try to isolate those issues (i.e. the one line 1365) | 15:17 |
| ad_rien_ | and if you can isolate them (i.e. ensure that those issues do not come from an external third party software). Then those bugs should be discussed with Neutron folks | 15:17 |
| dancn | msimonin: the conf were done manually after the kolla setup | 15:17 |
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| dancn | for sure we need some reproducible environment to advance the debug | 15:18 |
| rcherrueau | dancn: l.1363, did you mean you have to change the configuration file manually ? | 15:18 |
| ad_rien_ | ok unfortunately I don't think we can help you now… | 15:19 |
| dancn | rcherrueau: yes, after the deploy, to move the snat to the edge node | 15:19 |
| rcherrueau | Because, kolla offer a patch mechanism to change configuration file in programmatic manner | 15:19 |
| * rcherrueau looking for the doc | 15:19 | |
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| dancn | sure, if you have a pointer welcome! thanks, this end my presentation. | 15:20 |
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| msimonin | dancn: thanks for the feedback :) | 15:20 |
| ad_rien_ | ok thanks | 15:20 |
| rcherrueau | https://docs.openstack.org/kolla-ansible/latest/admin/advanced-configuration.html#openstack-service-configuration-in-kolla | 15:20 |
| ad_rien_ | next point OpenStack ++ Presentation | 15:20 |
| rcherrueau | search for `node_custom_config` | 15:20 |
| ad_rien_ | ok maybe I can wait a bit more…. sorry rcherrueau please go ahead | 15:21 |
| rcherrueau | note that you can leverage this into enos | 15:21 |
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| dancn | rcherrueau: tnx, I will forward this to dsantoro that unfortunatly is not here and is the main developer | 15:22 |
| ad_rien_ | ok | 15:22 |
| ad_rien_ | anything else gentlemen? | 15:22 |
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| ad_rien_ | can I move to the next point? | 15:22 |
| dancn | for me no more, move to next | 15:22 |
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| pramchan_ | #did the inwinstack team provide link to updates OpenStack++ for Ocata? | 15:22 |
| ad_rien_ | ok so let's move to OpenStack// | 15:22 |
| ad_rien_ | ++ | 15:22 |
| ad_rien_ | sorry | 15:22 |
| ad_rien_ | so last week a few of them took part to a presentation made by Satya (from CMU, contact in the pad). | 15:23 |
| ad_rien_ | The main difference with all the discussions we had in this WG up to now is related to the fact that one of the assumption in the OpenStack ++ work | 15:23 |
| pramchan_ | OK will follow it offline, rying to catch up, please proceed | 15:23 |
| rcherrueau | dancn: OK, good. Tell him to go back to me through the gitter channel if he gets issues with enos | 15:24 |
| ad_rien_ | is that each edge DC is not linked to the Internet | 15:24 |
| ad_rien_ | so the issue is mainly how you can use an edge DC when the connectivity is only limited between the mobile device (i.e. a smartphone) and the edge DC (called the cloudlet) | 15:24 |
| ad_rien_ | Such a strong limitation implies to revise the way end-users use the cloud servers | 15:25 |
| ad_rien_ | Satya presented several contributions (He gave a few links to academic papers that present the contributions). | 15:26 |
| ad_rien_ | I will put the link towards his web page later in the pad | 15:26 |
| pramchan_ | #we need Inter DC connectivity or even within DC nodes i clusters to be able to use cloudlet fully | 15:26 |
| ad_rien_ | as pramchan_ mentioned inwinstack folks have ported some contributions in the OpenStack | 15:26 |
| ad_rien_ | when I'm saying in the OpenStack I should rather say through libraries that you can use on top of OpenStack. | 15:27 |
| ad_rien_ | The meeting was fruitfull | 15:27 |
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| parus | Anything that influences what we do here? | 15:28 |
| ad_rien_ | but we should arrange another telco to see how this integration can be done deeper in the OpenStack code (for instance there is an optimization for provisioning the VM image that might be more efficient if it is integrated with the Glance module) | 15:28 |
| ad_rien_ | thanks parus for the questions | 15:28 |
| ad_rien_ | From the contributions Satya presented, the work is definitely complementary, meaning that AFAIK we did not address those challenges. | 15:28 |
| ad_rien_ | The only drawback I saw | 15:29 |
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| ad_rien_ | is the same we have at Inria: | 15:29 |
| ad_rien_ | This is research work | 15:29 |
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| ad_rien_ | concrete discussions with OpenStack core-developpers didn't start | 15:29 |
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| ad_rien_ | Inwinstack folks are interested to go deeper but I do not have more information on this aspect | 15:30 |
| ad_rien_ | (not sure I was clear enough…. I hope it is clear) | 15:30 |
| pramchan_ | yes the cloudlet is focussed on application devlopment and integration with back end cluster or Inter DC nocdes for mobility woll need migration approach | 15:30 |
| parus | Very clear thanks. I wonder if there is something we can do to address their prposed architecture. Is there a performance aspect we can investigate? | 15:31 |
| ad_rien_ | parus: … | 15:32 |
| ad_rien_ | this is a good question | 15:32 |
| pramchan_ | I mean by migration you can develop servral smat apps for AR/VR, SmarCity etc, but to scale we need to migrate them to Service Provider approach to staging and delivering service ona Reliable Scalabile platform, that I will try address in my presenation at OpenStack at Sydney | 15:32 |
| ad_rien_ | pramchan_: any link ? | 15:33 |
| ad_rien_ | I mean one big assumption is that the cloudlet should be self-content | 15:33 |
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| pramchan_ | #plus we need to measure use of resource both compute, storage, and network bandwidth to bill | 15:33 |
| ad_rien_ | i.e. you may have a limited connections to the internel | 15:33 |
| ad_rien_ | but this is not critical as the cloudlet (i.e. the VM deployed by the end-user into the edge DC) | 15:34 |
| ad_rien_ | already have most of the content its need. | 15:34 |
| ad_rien_ | s/have/has most | 15:34 |
| ad_rien_ | sorry | 15:34 |
| pramchan_ | #link Yes Joseph had declared along with Prof Satya at OpenDev and am trying to get the github link for that | 15:34 |
| ad_rien_ | ok pramchan_ can you please put the link in the pad | 15:34 |
| ad_rien_ | when you will find it ;) | 15:35 |
| pramchan_ | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/speakers/1662 | 15:35 |
| parus | pramchan_: Let's make this a point of discussion for our f2f in sydney. | 15:35 |
| ad_rien_ | parus: +1 | 15:35 |
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| ad_rien_ | ok let's move forward | 15:36 |
| ad_rien_ | as it is already XX:35 | 15:36 |
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| ad_rien_ | so next point Ericsson presentation | 15:36 |
| ad_rien_ | georgk: not sure whether you are in touch with Joao, are you? | 15:37 |
| parus | It was a very enjoyable presentation ! | 15:37 |
| ad_rien_ | indeed parus | 15:37 |
| ad_rien_ | good to see such actions | 15:37 |
| ad_rien_ | efforts | 15:37 |
| georgk | ad_rien_: sorry, I haven´t been in contact with him recently | 15:38 |
| ad_rien_ | so briefly the idea was to use a P2P agent based approach to use distinct openstacks | 15:38 |
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| ad_rien_ | when a tenant wants to submit a request, he/she is redirected to one agent of the P2P overlay. This agent is in charge of managing the request by communicating with the different openstacks | 15:39 |
| ad_rien_ | They have a PoC | 15:39 |
| georgk | ad_rien_: I will ping him | 15:39 |
| ad_rien_ | By developping this PoC, they faced several challenges we also faced at Inria | 15:39 |
| ad_rien_ | We identified a couple of opportunities to collaborate and move forward | 15:40 |
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| ad_rien_ | Joao is not there unfortunately today | 15:40 |
| ad_rien_ | but there will be another meeting too. | 15:40 |
| ad_rien_ | (still the same, If you are interested to take part to those exchanges, please add your contact mail below the item in the pad). | 15:40 |
| ad_rien_ | from my side, I will ask whether Joao can send us a link to the presentation | 15:41 |
| ad_rien_ | that's all from my side | 15:41 |
| ad_rien_ | comments/remarks ? | 15:41 |
| parus | I liked how ad_rien_ described different approaches to the distribution: Low layer effort (below openstack, Cockroack), Mid Layer efforts (e.g. regions, cells openstack++ ...), high layer efforts (above openstack e.g. ONAP). But where does P2P fit? | 15:42 |
| ad_rien_ | that's exactly where we are I think | 15:42 |
| ad_rien_ | and some discussions we should definitely plan to have soon | 15:43 |
| ad_rien_ | even yesterday we spent a couple of hours trying to understand whether a distributed DB such as cockroach will be relevant for all services | 15:43 |
| ad_rien_ | the same for the AMQP bus | 15:43 |
| ad_rien_ | should we have a distributed one at the higher level and keep the cells appraoch | 15:43 |
| ad_rien_ | at the low level. | 15:43 |
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| ad_rien_ | I think that is a really interesting and complex discussions | 15:44 |
| ad_rien_ | but we will have to address it soon and to take notes to be able to advance (right now, at least at Inria, we are going back and forth between our different conclusion). | 15:44 |
| parus | We are getting to a point where there are many possible implementations. | 15:44 |
| ad_rien_ | yepp | 15:45 |
| ad_rien_ | it would be nice if we can identify pros/cons of each approach | 15:45 |
| msimonin | +1 to that ad_rien_ | 15:45 |
| parus | It would be good to lay down the use cases and do some comparison. | 15:45 |
| ad_rien_ | this can be a valuable document | 15:45 |
| parus | +1 | 15:45 |
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| parus | The use case presentation should help with the comparison. | 15:46 |
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| ad_rien_ | #action start an action to try to identify pros/cons of different solutions: openstack fully distributed, cells/regions, broker based (i.e. onap) | 15:46 |
| parus | e.g. What implementation is good at live migration.... what implementation is good at doing rolling upgrades .... | 15:46 |
| ad_rien_ | maybe we can define a matrix | 15:47 |
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| ad_rien_ | of expected features | 15:47 |
| ad_rien_ | and see the development effort to be able to deliver those features | 15:47 |
| parus | I could see this as a great analysis to present in Vancouver. | 15:47 |
| ad_rien_ | one more ;) | 15:47 |
| ad_rien_ | So many challenges for Vancouver ;) | 15:48 |
| ad_rien_ | but yes definitely | 15:48 |
| ad_rien_ | Let's take some notes in the pad | 15:48 |
| ad_rien_ | meanwhile, kgiusti ansmith and msimonin can update us regarding AMQP | 15:48 |
| ad_rien_ | Guys the floor is yours | 15:48 |
| msimonin | so | 15:49 |
| msimonin | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/491818 | 15:49 |
| msimonin | is ready for review | 15:49 |
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| msimonin | it would be great of some of you can go and review it :) | 15:49 |
| kgiusti | and the ombt test tool has been updated to provide the proper metrics for the described tests | 15:50 |
| kgiusti | msimonin: I've provisionally +1'd it | 15:50 |
| msimonin | kgiusti: I made some initial tests, didn't see anything wrong with your patch, so far | 15:50 |
| ansmith | msimonin: I will review it next | 15:50 |
| msimonin | thanks guys from the performance WG will review it as well | 15:51 |
| kgiusti | msimonin: +1 - haven't pushed the new ombt2 to large scale so let me know if you hit anything | 15:51 |
| msimonin | ansmith: thanks :) | 15:51 |
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| pramchan_ | #info is there a comparison with MQTT, Kafka etc with AMQP? | 15:51 |
| kgiusti | pramchan_: right now openstack does not have MQTT capabilities | 15:52 |
| kgiusti | pramchan_: and Kafka is under development but not complete | 15:52 |
| pramchan_ | #please refer to edgent of Apache projetcs worth looking at | 15:52 |
| ansmith | pramchan_: further, kafka will be supported for notifications only | 15:52 |
| kgiusti | edgent - will do, thanks | 15:52 |
| ad_rien_ | kgiusti: ansmith I just added a question in the pad (line 1395) | 15:53 |
| ad_rien_ | we would be happy to know some information regarding that point (at least if you have some ;)) | 15:53 |
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| kgiusti | ad_rien_: I don't have those metrics - we'll have to open a dialog with the project's devs | 15:54 |
| parus | ad_rien_: I would add one question. How much is AMQP used between projects (e.g. nova to neutron) and how much is it used withing project (neutron client to neutron server)? | 15:54 |
| ad_rien_ | maybe there can be a way to collect such informations (i.e. not sure whether we have to discuss with all core-devs). Maybe this can be a relevant information for them too. | 15:54 |
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| kgiusti | ad_rien_: it may be that no one's really spent the time to collect it | 15:54 |
| ad_rien_ | kgiusti: +1 | 15:55 |
| ad_rien_ | this is a discussion we had yesterday | 15:55 |
| ad_rien_ | ok | 15:55 |
| ad_rien_ | Let's iscuss that point next time (only a few minutes left for parus) | 15:55 |
| kgiusti | +1 | 15:55 |
| ad_rien_ | parus: ? | 15:55 |
| ad_rien_ | please let's talk about your deck | 15:55 |
| ad_rien_ | ? | 15:55 |
| parus | Very quickly then. I have been working on Use case presentation for Sydney. | 15:55 |
| parus | I have a very draft deck that I shared on the etherpad. | 15:56 |
| parus | Please provide any comment you can. | 15:56 |
| parus | I would like to conclude the deck with an invitation for people to join FEMDC. | 15:56 |
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| parus | It would be good if someone has material on: | 15:56 |
| ad_rien_ | sounds good | 15:56 |
| ad_rien_ | thanks | 15:56 |
| parus | 1- What does FEMDC do? | 15:56 |
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| parus | 2- What is next ? | 15:57 |
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| ad_rien_ | parus I will do such a slide | 15:57 |
| parus | Please send me comments. | 15:57 |
| ad_rien_ | ok anything else | 15:57 |
| ad_rien_ | ? | 15:57 |
| jamemcc_ | I'll try to help | 15:57 |
| parus | All for me. | 15:57 |
| ad_rien_ | before moving to the open discussions | 15:57 |
| ad_rien_ | ok thanks | 15:57 |
| ad_rien_ | #topic open discussion | 15:57 |
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| ad_rien_ | from my side, I can just mention that we will probably move to a SiG | 15:58 |
| ad_rien_ | instead of being a Team | 15:58 |
| ad_rien_ | that's all | 15:58 |
| ansmith | msimonin: would it help to setup a call with alex, kgiusti to make introductions? | 15:58 |
| ad_rien_ | from my side. | 15:58 |
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| parus | +1 to SIG | 15:58 |
| ad_rien_ | ok time to conclude | 15:59 |
| ad_rien_ | anything else | 15:59 |
| ad_rien_ | ? | 15:59 |
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| ad_rien_ | OK thanks all for comming. | 15:59 |
| ad_rien_ | s/comming/.... | 15:59 |
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| ad_rien_ | keep in touch | 15:59 |
| ad_rien_ | ++ | 15:59 |
| ad_rien_ | #endmeeting | 15:59 |
| pramchan_ | Thanks | 15:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 11 15:59:27 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/massively_distributed_clouds/2017/massively_distributed_clouds.2017-10-11-15.00.html | 15:59 |
| msimonin | ansmith: That's a good idea | 15:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/massively_distributed_clouds/2017/massively_distributed_clouds.2017-10-11-15.00.txt | 15:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/massively_distributed_clouds/2017/massively_distributed_clouds.2017-10-11-15.00.log.html | 15:59 |
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| smcginnis | Where is that slacker? | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | #startmeeting Cinder | 16:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 11 16:00:22 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jungleboyj. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 16:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 16:00 |
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| jungleboyj | @! | 16:00 |
| _pewp_ | jungleboyj ( *՞ਊ՞*)ﾉ | 16:00 |
| lhx_ | hi! | 16:00 |
| Swanson | Hello | 16:00 |
| jungleboyj | Courtesy ping: jungleboyj DuncanT diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, rajinir tbarron xyang xyang1 e0ne gouthamr thingee erlon patrickeast tommylikehu eharney geguileo smcginnis lhx_ lhx__ | 16:01 |
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| jungleboyj | Ok, looks like we have at least the usual suspects here. | 16:02 |
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| jungleboyj | Dinesh_Bhor_: Welcome. | 16:02 |
| smcginnis | Dinesh_Bhor_: You might want to add your nick to the agenda etherpad if you want reminder pings. | 16:02 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks for joining us! | 16:02 |
| Dinesh_Bhor_ | Sure, will do | 16:02 |
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| jungleboyj | Dinesh_Bhor_: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-queens-meeting-agendas | 16:03 |
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| jungleboyj | We don't have much on the agenda today. So I am sure this will take the full hour. ;-) | 16:03 |
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| tbarron | hi | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | #topic announcements | 16:03 |
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| smcginnis | tbarron! | 16:03 |
| jungleboyj | :-) Speaking of slackers | 16:03 |
| tbarron | smcginnis! | 16:04 |
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| jungleboyj | Please keep an eye on the review priorities for Queens. | 16:04 |
| _alastor_ | o/ | 16:04 |
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| jungleboyj | If you have specs that you want in Queens please get them in. | 16:04 |
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| jungleboyj | I know we have until milestone 2, but sooner is always better. | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | I have a couple in my review inbox that I hope to find time to look at today. | 16:05 |
| jungleboyj | An update on ZuulV3 migration. | 16:05 |
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| jungleboyj | They were planning to move back to ZuulV3 this morning. Doesn't appear that that has happened yet. | 16:06 |
| smcginnis | Still preping for the zuul switch. I think it's still on for today. | 16:06 |
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| jungleboyj | If you start seeing reviews failing on Zuul, please try to help identify the problem. | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | Mailing list thread on what to do if you see problems: | 16:06 |
| jungleboyj | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-September/122886.html | 16:07 |
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| jungleboyj | Info on the move has been happening under this thread: | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123401.html | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | Also, just a general call to please help with reviews. | 16:07 |
| jungleboyj | Could use more attention from everyone on those. | 16:08 |
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| jungleboyj | Also a reminder that we have an etherpad to put your Sydney info in: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/cinder-sydney-information | 16:09 |
| jungleboyj | If you are going, please update the etherpad. | 16:09 |
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| jungleboyj | That was all I had for today. | 16:09 |
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| jungleboyj | #topic open discussion | 16:09 |
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| jungleboyj | Any other topics for today? | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | Bueler ... Bueler | 16:10 |
| jungleboyj | Buuuuuelerrrr | 16:11 |
| lhx_ | hah | 16:11 |
| smcginnis | Just all hands on deck for zuul failures once that happens. | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: ++ | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | I am a little worried about that so any help we can get there will be appreciated. | 16:11 |
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| smcginnis | And another call out for folks to actually do reviews. We could definitely use more eyes on all the patches we have out there. | 16:11 |
| jungleboyj | smcginnis: +++++ | 16:12 |
| jungleboyj | Oh, couple of FYI's on 3rd Party CI. | 16:12 |
| jungleboyj | Lenovo's is currently down for maintenance. They switching to a more stable implementation. | 16:13 |
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| jungleboyj | Does anyone know that status of Dell/EMC's CI's? | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | Swanson: ? | 16:13 |
| jungleboyj | I haven't seen VMAX CI reporting for a bit. | 16:13 |
| Swanson | jungleboyj, beats me | 16:13 |
| Swanson | I'll find someone to poke. | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | Swanson: Ok, I had been informed there was a system failure a while back that they were trying to recover from but that has been quite a while now. | 16:14 |
| jungleboyj | See lots of patches coming from them but not so many test results. :-) | 16:14 |
| Swanson | jungleboyj, there was but the last I heard they fixed that. | 16:15 |
| Swanson | jungleboyj, Of course I haven't heard from any of those people since the last Event. | 16:15 |
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| smcginnis | "The Event" :) | 16:16 |
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| Swanson | The Event 3: HR overload. | 16:16 |
| jungleboyj | Ok, Swanson I guess it did report on patches yesterday, but I hadn't seen it on the patches I was reviewing. | 16:16 |
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| jungleboyj | <theater voice> In a world where tech industries are letting people go ... </theater voice> | 16:17 |
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| jungleboyj | Ok ... That is all I think I have right now. | 16:17 |
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| * jungleboyj hands a cup of coffee to everyone | 16:18 | |
| tommylikehu | jungleboyj: double sugar | 16:18 |
| jungleboyj | Ok ... well, no reason to keep people here if there is nothing to discuss. | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | tommylikehu: Good to know | 16:19 |
| Swanson | I emailed people. | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | Swanson: Thank you! | 16:19 |
| jungleboyj | Ok. Please review. Please help get ZuulV3 working. | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | We will meet here again next week. | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks! | 16:20 |
| tommylikehu | thanks | 16:20 |
| smcginnis | Thanks | 16:20 |
| jungleboyj | #endmeeting cinder | 16:20 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 11 16:20:55 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 16:20 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-10-11-16.00.html | 16:20 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-10-11-16.00.txt | 16:20 |
| diablo_rojo_phon | Thank you! | 16:21 |
| Dinesh_Bhor_ | Thanks | 16:21 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/cinder/2017/cinder.2017-10-11-16.00.log.html | 16:21 |
| e0ne | see you next week! | 16:21 |
| jungleboyj | See you e0ne | 16:21 |
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| lhx_ | thanks | 16:24 |
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| bh526r | #startmeeting gluon | 18:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 11 18:00:55 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is bh526r. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 18:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 18:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: gluon)" | 18:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'gluon' | 18:01 |
| bh526r | #topic Roll Call | 18:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Roll Call (Meeting topic: gluon)" | 18:01 | |
| bh526r | #info Bin Hu | 18:01 |
| jinli | #info JinLi | 18:01 |
| krenczewski | #info Kamil Renczewski | 18:01 |
| jinli | Hi Bin and Kamil | 18:01 |
| bh526r | Hi Jin and Kamil | 18:01 |
| krenczewski | Hi Jin and Bin | 18:01 |
| bh526r | How is everything going? | 18:01 |
| krenczewski | Great, but lot of work :-) | 18:02 |
| bh526r | :) it is good to have some work to do | 18:02 |
| jinli | still working on auto generating the the back end. | 18:02 |
| bh526r | sounds good | 18:02 |
| bh526r | any findings to share? | 18:02 |
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| bh526r | or still reading relevant parts of code? | 18:03 |
| jinli | still reading the relevant part of code | 18:03 |
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| jinli | early next week I can meet with you to discuss | 18:04 |
| bh526r | sounds good. | 18:04 |
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| bh526r | Some guy from New Jersey will go to San Ramon next week, so I may go to San Ramon Tuesday or Wednesday to meet him | 18:05 |
| bh526r | But not decided yet | 18:05 |
| bh526r | pending on his schedule | 18:05 |
| jinli | cool | 18:05 |
| bh526r | If schedule works out and I do go to San Ramon, we can meet in San Ramon as well | 18:05 |
| jinli | let me know when you comng | 18:05 |
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| jinli | that will be good. | 18:06 |
| bh526r | Sure. Let's see how schedule works | 18:06 |
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| jinli | ok | 18:07 |
| bh526r | not much from me | 18:07 |
| bh526r | #topic Queens work update | 18:07 |
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| bh526r | #info Jin is still working on auto-generating backends, and reading relevant parts of code now | 18:07 |
| bh526r | #info Bin and Jin will discuss some code next week | 18:08 |
| bh526r | nothing else from me, so we can enjoy the rest of evening for Kamil, and rest of day for Jin :) | 18:08 |
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| krenczewski | OK, great | 18:09 |
| bh526r | let's adjourn the meeting | 18:09 |
| bh526r | #info Nothing else, meeting adjourned | 18:09 |
| bh526r | #endmeeting | 18:09 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 18:09 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 11 18:09:35 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 18:09 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-10-11-18.00.html | 18:09 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-10-11-18.00.txt | 18:09 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/gluon/2017/gluon.2017-10-11-18.00.log.html | 18:09 |
| bh526r | Thank you Jin and Kamil, and bye all | 18:09 |
| krenczewski | Thanks, bye | 18:09 |
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| jinli | bye all | 18:10 |
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| SotK | anyone around for the storyboard meeting? | 18:59 |
| * SotK will do a quick update-y style meeting whilst waiting to see if anyone arrives | 19:01 | |
| SotK | #startmeeting storyboard | 19:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 11 19:01:10 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is SotK. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 19:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 19:01 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'storyboard' | 19:01 |
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| SotK | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/StoryBoard#Agenda_for_next_meeting Agenda | 19:01 |
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| diablo_rojo | Hello :) | 19:02 |
| SotK | hey diablo_rojo | 19:02 |
| SotK | #topic In Progress Work | 19:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "In Progress Work (Meeting topic: storyboard)" | 19:02 | |
| * Zara wanders in late | 19:02 | |
| SotK | hi there | 19:02 |
| Zara | o/ | 19:03 |
| SotK | so, I sent a patch to consolidate some of our old database migrations | 19:03 |
| SotK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/510370/ | 19:03 |
| SotK | I got tired of our tests constantly timing out and decided to pick that low hanging fruit to speed them up a bit | 19:03 |
| Zara | thanks :) | 19:03 |
| diablo_rojo | Much appreciated | 19:03 |
| SotK | there is also https://review.openstack.org/#/c/510669/ but I am going to send a new version of that addressing persia's comment | 19:04 |
| persia | Should I -1 it to make that more clear, or is your follow-up comment sufficient? | 19:05 |
| SotK | my comment is probably sufficient, I expect to send the new version shortly after this meeting | 19:05 |
| SotK | I also rebased and re-sent the patch for fixing the bug where all automatic worklists say they have 0 items | 19:05 |
| SotK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/307712/ | 19:06 |
| SotK | I finally started looking at linkable story template-y things too, but then got sidetracked debugging our apparent email notifications issue | 19:06 |
| diablo_rojo | SotK, no worries, I think the email notification is kind of more important. | 19:07 |
| SotK | other in-progress things, we got some patches earlier today that are a nice cosmetic fix and need review | 19:07 |
| SotK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511247/ | 19:07 |
| SotK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511246/ | 19:07 |
| Zara | my review backlog is massive again :) | 19:08 |
| SotK | heh :D | 19:08 |
| SotK | diablo_rojo: yeah, I agree | 19:08 |
| diablo_rojo | Zara, wouldn't want to leave you bored with nothing to do :) | 19:08 |
| SotK | regarding that email issue, there appear to be two problems that I now suspect are unrelated to each other | 19:08 |
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| SotK | one where the preferences page doesn't work immediately after logging in without a page refresh | 19:09 |
| SotK | and one where some people aren't getting emails even if their preference is set correctly | 19:09 |
| SotK | I can't do much to debug the latter without seeing the production database I suspect, since I've not yet been able to reproduce it and would like to rule out db weirdness | 19:10 |
| SotK | I also put Launchpad Migration on the agenda, though I've not gotten to testing any projects this week personally I'm afraid | 19:11 |
| persia | Today is a full day for most of the admins, but perhaps we can ask for some admin time at the meeting next Tuesday? | 19:11 |
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| diablo_rojo | I talked to i18n and it seems that there is a discussion on the ML about another project looking to migrate | 19:13 |
| * diablo_rojo can't remember the project and looks for the ML thread | 19:13 | |
| SotK | persia: yup, I was planning to wait until zuul things are quieter before I go asking for help from folk | 19:13 |
| SotK | persia: next Tuesday's meeting seems as sensible a time as any | 19:13 |
| SotK | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123446.html | 19:14 |
| SotK | diablo_rojo: that one? | 19:14 |
| * persia thought diablo_rojo replied to that one | 19:14 | |
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| diablo_rojo | Yep thats the one | 19:15 |
| diablo_rojo | They seem to be pretty on board without my prodding which is awesome. | 19:16 |
| SotK | indeed :) | 19:17 |
| diablo_rojo | Still haven't heard back from the other PTL's I've tried to reach out to- Tricircle and Watcher? | 19:18 |
| diablo_rojo | I think I might just ping them on IRC | 19:18 |
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| persia | The latter group seems active and responsive on IRC. I don't have any experience with the former. | 19:18 |
| diablo_rojo | I guess that is what I will do then :) | 19:19 |
| SotK | thanks diablo_rojo | 19:20 |
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| diablo_rojo | SotK, no problem :) | 19:20 |
| diablo_rojo | If anyone does get around to testing other projects and their migrations work let me know :) | 19:20 |
| * SotK will attempt to do so | 19:20 | |
| diablo_rojo | Cool :) | 19:21 |
| diablo_rojo | Also working on a draft release goal to present in Sydney if people want to look it over when I push it. I will add them as reviewers | 19:21 |
| persia | Has anyone tried a "migrate all the projects" run recently? I wonder if there are outstanding migration issues beyond cross-project integration or external tooling | 19:22 |
| persia | diablo_rojo: Please add me as a reviewer, in case I'm not paying close enough attention. | 19:22 |
| SotK | diablo_rojo: that would be of interest to me too please | 19:22 |
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| diablo_rojo | Can do. | 19:22 |
| SotK | persia: I have not, I suspect such run would take a not-insignificant amount of time | 19:23 |
| persia | human time or machine time? | 19:23 |
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| SotK | machine time mostly, since the need to run the migration tool per-project could be pretty easily scripted out of the way | 19:24 |
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| SotK | anything else in progress to discuss? | 19:26 |
| diablo_rojo | I kind of have that starter patch (if you can even qualify it that much) to comment on lp bugs as they are migrated with links to the new sb story. | 19:27 |
| diablo_rojo | I -W cause it is definitely not ready to go in, but if people want to take a look and tell me I am horribly wrong I wouldn't complain :) | 19:28 |
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| * SotK will have a look at it | 19:28 | |
| SotK | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504253/ | 19:28 |
| Zara | I just have reviews to do; other than that my in-progress is eating dinner | 19:30 |
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| diablo_rojo | Zara, I am eating lunch :) | 19:30 |
| persia | If someone else would be willing to volunteer to script testing, I can try to get some machine time. | 19:30 |
| diablo_rojo | persia, go for it :) | 19:30 |
| persia | I don't need the script to get the time, but I would need to make sure it would be written, so I can point the donor at results. | 19:31 |
| persia | diablo_rojo: Thanks :) | 19:31 |
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| SotK | thanks persia :) | 19:32 |
| * diablo_rojo has like 90 other things on her plate otherwise she would help out | 19:33 | |
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| * SotK can probably find time to do the scripting part | 19:33 | |
| SotK | anything else in progress? | 19:34 |
| persia | SotK: Then I'll let both you and diablo_rojo know if I can arrange machine time :) | 19:34 |
| SotK | #topic Open Discussion | 19:35 |
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| SotK | I'll leave this open for a little while in case anything bursts into someone's mind, and then end the meeting early if everyone is busy eating dinner :) | 19:37 |
| Zara | I am definitely busy eating dinner | 19:38 |
| Zara | sorry for my terrible timing this week | 19:38 |
| SotK | haha, no problem | 19:38 |
| Zara | I should be able to eat earlier next week at least | 19:39 |
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| SotK | alright, thanks for coming folk! | 19:41 |
| SotK | #endmeeting | 19:41 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 11 19:41:40 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 19:41 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/storyboard/2017/storyboard.2017-10-11-19.01.html | 19:41 |
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| Zara | thanks! | 19:43 |
| diablo_rojo | Thanks SotK :) | 19:45 |
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| ekhugen | #startmeeting wos_mentoring | 20:05 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 11 20:05:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekhugen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 20:05 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 20:05 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'wos_mentoring' | 20:05 |
| ekhugen | sorry diablo_rojo I got caught in another meeting | 20:05 |
| ekhugen | who else is here for mentoring? | 20:05 |
| ekhugen | diablo_rojo_phon? | 20:06 |
| diablo_rojo | Lol I am here | 20:07 |
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| diablo_rojo | So, what's on the agenda? | 20:07 |
| ekhugen | probably talking about sydney mostly | 20:07 |
| diablo_rojo | Before that- I made 5 more long term mentoring matches and emailed them | 20:08 |
| ekhugen | did we have any signups yet for mentors/mentees? I need to put the call for mentors out on the dev and WOO mailing lists | 20:08 |
| ekhugen | oh yes, I did see that, thank you! | 20:08 |
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| diablo_rojo | ekhugen, we have a few mentors, didn't see any mentees but I will go look now to see if that has changed | 20:08 |
| diablo_rojo | I also talked to Anne and Sonia about getting tweets scheduled promoting the signups | 20:08 |
| diablo_rojo | so we should start seeing those soon | 20:08 |
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| ekhugen | awesome, thanks! | 20:08 |
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| ekhugen | if we have a few mentors and not many mentee signups, maybe we don’t need to push so hard for more mentors | 20:09 |
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| diablo_rojo | 5 mentors | 20:10 |
| ekhugen | are they a mix of technical/career/community? | 20:11 |
| diablo_rojo | 0 mentees | 20:11 |
| diablo_rojo | 2 community, 1 technical, 2 career | 20:11 |
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| diablo_rojo | Sending both of the signups out the various ML would help generate some interest. | 20:12 |
| diablo_rojo | We should probably pick a date to do a meeting with the mentors and prep them for whats up. | 20:12 |
| ekhugen | okay, I can send those out | 20:12 |
| diablo_rojo | ekhugen, that would be awesome. | 20:12 |
| ekhugen | and yeah, I’m thinking maybe this time on the 25th? | 20:13 |
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| diablo_rojo | Yeah that will work for me | 20:13 |
| ekhugen | do you mind sending me the mentor’s emails and I’ll send a meeting invite to them? | 20:14 |
| ekhugen | please | 20:14 |
| * diablo_rojo goes to share the doc with you | 20:14 | |
| diablo_rojo | Shared | 20:15 |
| diablo_rojo | I have mentors on sheet 2 | 20:15 |
| diablo_rojo | mentees on sheet 1 | 20:15 |
| ekhugen | got it, thanks! | 20:16 |
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| diablo_rojo | No problem | 20:16 |
| ekhugen | we should also probably update the set of slides to apply to sydney https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1YQ65688-zxx0QGJvbeHICdAhMmDVg3xVPd7ZWLCtVGw/edit#slide=id.p3 | 20:17 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah probably :) | 20:17 |
| ekhugen | I think a lot of it’s the same, but we need to decide who’s going to emcee and who’s going to keep time | 20:17 |
| ekhugen | and we can get rid of the stuff about baseball cards | 20:17 |
| diablo_rojo | I updated the details. | 20:19 |
| diablo_rojo | Of the time/link etc | 20:19 |
| diablo_rojo | Maybe instead of baseball cards we can just urge people to bring enough business cards? | 20:19 |
| ekhugen | you and amrith both signed up as mentors, but I’m thinking it’s probably not going to be easy to be mentors and do the emcee/timekeeping | 20:19 |
| diablo_rojo | If we end up getting more mentors I can switch to timekeeping :) | 20:20 |
| diablo_rojo | I think lunch will be grab and go like it was last time, but I will have to double check that with Erin | 20:21 |
| amrith | I'll bring biz cards, no worries. but I want a hat :) | 20:21 |
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| amrith | hi ekhugen diablo_rojo | 20:21 |
| ekhugen | Hi Amrith | 20:21 |
| diablo_rojo | amrith, gotta get someone to fund the hats :) | 20:21 |
| diablo_rojo | Intel did it last time. | 20:22 |
| ekhugen | didn’t you get a hat last time, in Boston? | 20:22 |
| amrith | I did but I understand that in the southern hemisphere, hats go the opposite direction or something | 20:22 |
| amrith | diablo_rojo what's the sponsorship on hats? | 20:22 |
| diablo_rojo | So its shoes? | 20:22 |
| ekhugen | lol | 20:22 |
| diablo_rojo | amrith, good question, not sure actually. Sounds like an erin question | 20:22 |
| diablo_rojo | Could do shirts or something if you'd prefer. | 20:23 |
| diablo_rojo | I recall you being good at designing them ;) | 20:23 |
| amrith | happy to wear a shirt for the event, I was planning on not wearing one but happy to change plans ... | 20:23 |
| amrith | diablo_rojo that was frank, not me | 20:23 |
| amrith | which reminds me, I need to order my custom t-short for sydney | 20:23 |
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| diablo_rojo | Ha ha ha ha pretty sure this will be in an air conditioned room, not the beach | 20:24 |
| diablo_rojo | I imagine we can get spotz to help us with all of this. | 20:24 |
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| diablo_rojo | So looks like the slides are just about good to go | 20:27 |
| diablo_rojo | ekhugen, are you going to be there? | 20:29 |
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| ekhugen | no, diablo_rojo I’m moving off of openstack for my official job, so I don’t have funding to go to sydney | 20:30 |
| diablo_rojo | ekhugen, sad panda :( | 20:30 |
| ekhugen | yeah, unfortunately | 20:30 |
| amrith | sorry to hear that ekhugen | 20:30 |
| ekhugen | back to the world of assembler coding for me | 20:31 |
| amrith | yum | 20:31 |
| ekhugen | but anything else for sydney prep we need to talk about? | 20:31 |
| diablo_rojo | Can someone make the table numbers? | 20:32 |
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| ekhugen | I can make them and mail them to you, if you can take them to sydney | 20:32 |
| diablo_rojo | Yeah I can definitely bring them | 20:33 |
| ekhugen | cool, thanks! | 20:33 |
| ekhugen | any other topics, anything else on long term mentoring, diablo_rojo? | 20:34 |
| diablo_rojo | ekhugen, nope I don't think so | 20:34 |
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| ekhugen | okay, cool, I’ll send out the call for mentors and the meeting invite for the mentor prep call on the 25th | 20:35 |
| ekhugen | and we’ll talk over email if anything else comes up? | 20:35 |
| diablo_rojo | ekhugen, works for me :) | 20:35 |
| ekhugen | thanks! have a good day diablo_rojo and amrith! | 20:36 |
| diablo_rojo | ekhugen, amrith thank you! | 20:36 |
| ekhugen | #endmeeting | 20:36 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 11 20:36:16 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 20:36 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/wos_mentoring/2017/wos_mentoring.2017-10-11-20.05.html | 20:36 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/wos_mentoring/2017/wos_mentoring.2017-10-11-20.05.txt | 20:36 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/wos_mentoring/2017/wos_mentoring.2017-10-11-20.05.log.html | 20:36 |
| amrith | thx diablo_rojo | 20:36 |
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| notmyname | #startmeeting swift | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Wed Oct 11 21:00:50 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
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| notmyname | who's here for the swift meeting? | 21:00 |
| timburke | o/ | 21:00 |
| m_kazuhiro | o/ | 21:00 |
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| mattoliverau | o/ | 21:01 |
| rledisez | o/ | 21:01 |
| tdasilva | hi | 21:01 |
| acoles | hi | 21:01 |
| notmyname | welcome, everyone | 21:01 |
| notmyname | not a lot of specific things on the agenda... | 21:02 |
| notmyname | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Swift | 21:02 |
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| torgomatic | oh hello there | 21:02 |
| notmyname | but there are a few things to bring up and go over | 21:02 |
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| kota_ | hello | 21:02 |
| notmyname | first, I'd like to point out that the TC nominations have closed | 21:02 |
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| notmyname | there's a big list of very interesting candidates (a *lot* of new faces) running | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | #link https://governance.openstack.org/election/ | 21:03 |
| notmyname | you can read over their statements there | 21:03 |
| jungleboyj | @! | 21:03 |
| _pewp_ | jungleboyj (ه’́⌣’̀ه )／ | 21:03 |
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| notmyname | also, tdasilva has updated the LP bug trend graphs | 21:04 |
| notmyname | #link https://bugs.not.mn/project/swift/bug_trends/None | 21:04 |
| notmyname | so you can look at a specific time period | 21:04 |
| notmyname | note the recent drop :-) | 21:04 |
| notmyname | and please continue to use the etherpad to triage bugs | 21:04 |
| notmyname | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift-bug-triage-list | 21:04 |
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| mattoliverau | Nice work tdasilva | 21:05 |
| tdasilva | mattoliverau: thanks :) | 21:06 |
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| notmyname | sorry.. was trying to figure out when/if to bring up another topic. will do so at the end | 21:07 |
| notmyname | #topic updates from ongoing work | 21:07 |
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| notmyname | acoles: mattoliverau: timburke: how's container sharding work going? | 21:08 |
| acoles | notmyname: going well | 21:08 |
| acoles | since last week's meeting I have added a 'low hanging fruit' label to the trello board | 21:08 |
| acoles | and added it to some tasks | 21:09 |
| acoles | #link https://trello.com/b/z6oKKI4Q/container-sharding | 21:09 |
| acoles | so if anyone would like to join in search the backlog for those | 21:09 |
| notmyname | great! | 21:09 |
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| mattoliverau | Great, acoles and timburke are brilliant. I've been distracted this last week, I had a swift presentation at a Canberra OpenStack Meetup that I had to prepare for in my own time. It went well tho. A bunch of people turned up, government departments etc, know someone wants me to go talk swift at one in Sydney. | 21:10 |
| acoles | during last week I have spent some time on the shrinking aspect of sharding, and hope to have a simpler strategy for that..but not quite there yet | 21:10 |
| mattoliverau | *now | 21:10 |
| notmyname | mattoliverau: acoles: sounds great | 21:10 |
| mattoliverau | Yeah the shrinking idea of acoles is a bug improvement to what was theee | 21:11 |
| notmyname | torgomatic expressed some interest at digging into the sharding work, too | 21:11 |
| mattoliverau | \o/ | 21:11 |
| acoles | also, the ratio of test/real code is growing steadily which makes me happier | 21:11 |
| notmyname | :-) | 21:12 |
| acoles | notmyname: so summary from me is good progress but still long way to go | 21:12 |
| notmyname | no doubt | 21:12 |
| notmyname | kota_: how's swift3 and s3api work going? | 21:12 |
| kota_ | that progressed a bit since the last week. all outstanding patches for the release landed except CHANGELOG | 21:13 |
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| kota_ | I'd like to get final check from timburke on that | 21:13 |
| kota_ | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504479/ | 21:13 |
| patchbot | patch 504479 - swift3 - Change log updates for version 1.12 | 21:13 |
| kota_ | or reviewed from any other English native volunteer ;) | 21:14 |
| notmyname | timburke: what should we do about the SLO patch? should we ask for 1.12 to hold for that? do a 1.12.1 later? just never tag that one and land it in both repos? | 21:14 |
| notmyname | kota_: :-) | 21:14 |
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| notmyname | kota_: trust me, being a native english speaker doesn't mean you make good notes. I should know!! | 21:14 |
| kota_ | SLO patch? | 21:14 |
| kota_ | i may be missing that one | 21:15 |
| timburke | i'm assuming it'll just need to land in my fork, then get ported over to whatever s3api becomes | 21:15 |
| timburke | https://review.openstack.org/509321 | 21:15 |
| patchbot | patch 509321 - swift3 - Support long-running multipart uploads | 21:15 |
| kota_ | oic | 21:15 |
| kota_ | i thought it will happen on s3api branch. anyway, it depends a new patch for Swift itself. | 21:16 |
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| kota_ | no? | 21:16 |
| notmyname | correct | 21:16 |
| timburke | but it won't break on old swift | 21:16 |
| * kota_ is looking | 21:16 | |
| timburke | it *does* rather rely on what the final api for https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509306/ looks like, though | 21:17 |
| patchbot | patch 509306 - swift - Let clients request heartbeats during SLO PUTs | 21:17 |
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| notmyname | I'm not sure if it needs to be completely decided in here, but I wanted to mention it so that everyone knows what's going on | 21:17 |
| notmyname | point is, there's somethign landing in swift that a requested feature for s3 compat will use, and where do we want that to land/live/be released? | 21:18 |
| notmyname | kota_: m_kazuhiro: anything to report this week on policy migration status? | 21:18 |
| joeljwright | Sorry I'm late peeps | 21:19 |
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| notmyname | no worries | 21:19 |
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| torgomatic | notmyname: let's have it live in Swift; it's not useful *only* for S3 compatibility | 21:19 |
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| kota_ | torgomatic: +1 | 21:19 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: right. what I mean is the s3 compat part. not the dribble-spaces part | 21:19 |
| notmyname | will the s3 part ever be in a tagged release of swift3 or not | 21:20 |
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| torgomatic | well, it doesn't break backwards compatibility, so it can either go into swift3 or go into Swift's future S3 compatibility layer | 21:20 |
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| m_kazuhiro | notmyname: "policy migration" means auto-tiering? "things happening in swift" in meeting page has "policy migration" and "policy auto tiering". | 21:20 |
| torgomatic | it doesn't really matter where it winds up, at least from a code-management standpoint | 21:20 |
| notmyname | m_kazuhiro: sorry, yes | 21:20 |
| kota_ | anyway, i think it's ok to tag on this point. if we need to backport significant change from s3api to swift3, I can consider another release maybe? | 21:21 |
| notmyname | torgomatic: I agree it doesn't matter. only that kota_ is just now tagging a release, and there's an idea that this may be the last tag ever for swift3 (or maybe not). so do we want to hold off on the tag for this functionality or not? | 21:21 |
| notmyname | kota_: ok | 21:22 |
| timburke | at any rate, i'm fairly certain *i'll* be making some (private/internal) tag that includes it :P | 21:22 |
| torgomatic | tags are cheap :) | 21:22 |
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| notmyname | torgomatic: BUT WHAT IF WE RUN OUT OF NUMBERS?! | 21:22 |
| kota_ | hopefully, it's the last tag BUT I cannot prommiss it | 21:22 |
| notmyname | kota_: :-) | 21:22 |
| timburke | we can certainly hope | 21:22 |
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| notmyname | ah, the eternal optimism of developers... "*this* release will be great and we'll be done" | 21:23 |
| notmyname | :-) | 21:23 |
| m_kazuhiro | notmyname: In auto-tierng, there is no update. I worked for symlink this week and symlink merge is most important task for auto-tiering now. | 21:23 |
| notmyname | m_kazuhiro: ok | 21:23 |
| timburke | no, it's more like "this release will be fine, and then it won't matter, because we're going to push everyone over *here* now" | 21:24 |
| notmyname | what's up with symlinks then. what are you blocked on there? | 21:24 |
| m_kazuhiro | notmyname: I made etherpad page for discussion points on symlink. Link is in the meeting page. | 21:24 |
| * kota_ is thinking it looks we lost coloring in the etherpad :/ | 21:25 | |
| acoles | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift_symlink_remaining_discussion_points | 21:25 |
| m_kazuhiro | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift_symlink_remaining_discussion_points | 21:25 |
| acoles | yeah where did the colours go? | 21:25 |
| kota_ | acoles: IDK | 21:25 |
| m_kazuhiro | I think some discussion points are remaining on symlink. We should discuss them. | 21:26 |
| timburke | fwiw, https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/swift_symlink_remaining_discussion_points/timeslider#6299 has colors still | 21:26 |
| m_kazuhiro | The biggest one is about container listing behavior with symlinks. | 21:27 |
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| kota_ | timburke: nice. would you make it back the version? | 21:27 |
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| notmyname | m_kazuhiro: how would you like to have that discussion? in the etherpad? or in IRC? | 21:28 |
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| timburke | not sure how 🤷♂️ | 21:28 |
| m_kazuhiro | notmyname: I want discuss them in this irc meeting. And I will add them etherpad after irc. | 21:28 |
| acoles | I tried exporting that version as an etherpad but not sure what that did | 21:29 |
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| notmyname | m_kazuhiro: ok, let's come back to it after the other updates | 21:30 |
| kota_ | acoles: it looks like it would be possibe to import from the exported file. | 21:30 |
| m_kazuhiro | notmyname: thanks. | 21:30 |
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| kota_ | notmyname: +1, it may take longer time to discuss. | 21:30 |
| notmyname | kota_: yes, likely | 21:31 |
| notmyname | I know clayg has been looking at the "extract eventlet" suite of problems. but i haven't seen him in this meeting | 21:31 |
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| notmyname | rledisez: any updates on LOSF work? | 21:31 |
| rledisez | yes, two informations | 21:31 |
| rledisez | 1st: alecuyer has been investigating how to re-use the maximum of code from original diskfile | 21:32 |
| rledisez | he tried dependency injection as discussed in Denver, but it made a very big patch | 21:32 |
| rledisez | so he went back on extracting FS-specific calls (eg: replacing os.listdir() by diskfile.list_part() or list_suffix(), …) | 21:32 |
| rledisez | any thought on that is welcome. we should probably add this discussion in topics for a next meeting | 21:33 |
| rledisez | 2nd: we made a first production deployment last week (72 devices, 4 partitions per devices) in order to check how it behaves on real workload. so far, it looks ok, but there is so few data that it's not really reprensentative | 21:34 |
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| rledisez | we found some bugs, alecuyer is fixing them | 21:34 |
| notmyname | oh, cool | 21:34 |
| rledisez | that's all for me, except if there is any questions :) | 21:35 |
| rledisez | oh, we plan to move on with more data in 2 or 3 weeks | 21:36 |
| notmyname | last update thing from me (the thing I referenced at the start of the meeting) is that we're working on an issue with container drives filling up. we've got reasonable tools in swift for object servers filling up, but many of those don't work for accounts or containers | 21:36 |
| notmyname | clayg's been working on some of that, and I wouldn't be surprised to see some patches upstream | 21:36 |
| rledisez | notmyname: "container drives filling up" -> can you elaborate a bit? is there a bug report? | 21:37 |
| notmyname | alternative spelled "very few drives + one failed for a long time + millions of containers in the cluster" | 21:38 |
| notmyname | the whole thing is terrible, but it's not an upstream bug :-) | 21:38 |
| rledisez | :) | 21:38 |
| notmyname | digging out, however, may require some updates to container tools that are similar to the ones we have for objects | 21:38 |
| notmyname | eg handoffs only mode and stuff like that | 21:38 |
| rledisez | yes, there is some missing feature (eg: i missed so much —partition on container-replicator i had to implement it internally ;)) | 21:39 |
| notmyname | :-) | 21:39 |
| notmyname | yep. stuff exactly like that | 21:39 |
| notmyname | (push it upstream) ;-) | 21:40 |
| rledisez | i will, very short patch | 21:40 |
| notmyname | joeljwright: any word on ambles? (/me hopes we haven't completely failed you) | 21:40 |
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| joeljwright | Well I've been on holiday | 21:40 |
| joeljwright | I was kind of hoping opinions might have been formed | 21:40 |
| notmyname | I have no opinions on that | 21:41 |
| joeljwright | Has anyone had a chance to look and have any thoughts on whether this is desirable for SLO? | 21:41 |
| notmyname | I still like it | 21:43 |
| notmyname | and I like timburke's ideas on it (separate "data" segments instead of ambles) | 21:43 |
| joeljwright | Okay, I'll commit to having a chat with timburke :) | 21:44 |
| timburke | and i'll commit to looking at it long enough to at least being able to submit patches that pass tests :-) | 21:45 |
| notmyname | yay! | 21:45 |
| joeljwright | :D \o/ | 21:45 |
| notmyname | what else needs to be brought up today? | 21:45 |
| timburke | hopefully, that'll turn into me writing the data segment bits, since it seems crappy of me to force that work on someone else when it was my idea | 21:46 |
| joeljwright | I'll certainly pitch in too | 21:47 |
| notmyname | m_kazuhiro: since I know that there hasn't been a lot of people looking at the symlinks etherpad and since we're short on time in this meeting, can you help us out with reviewing and understanding the problems there? | 21:47 |
| notmyname | m_kazuhiro: I mean, this week, can you bug us on IRC and make sure you get some answers about the symlinks problems | 21:47 |
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| tdasilva | notmyname: may I suggest that we move the symlink conversation to #openstack-swift ? | 21:48 |
| notmyname | and then during the next meeting, we can review what's been discussed and summarize | 21:48 |
| notmyname | tdasilva: yes, I agree. and over the next week | 21:48 |
| m_kazuhiro | notmyname: tdasilva: ok | 21:49 |
| notmyname | ok | 21:49 |
| notmyname | m_kazuhiro: thanks | 21:49 |
| acoles | m_kazuhiro: we need to try to recover some clarity of authors on the etherpad if possible | 21:49 |
| notmyname | last call for anything else to bring up in this meeting this week? | 21:49 |
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| notmyname | all right | 21:50 |
| notmyname | thank you for coming this week | 21:50 |
| notmyname | thanks for your work on swift :-) | 21:51 |
| jungleboyj | Thanks. | 21:51 |
| notmyname | #endmeeting | 21:51 |
| timburke | i'd still like reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509306/ if anyone's got time -- thanks clayg for your inputs so far! | 21:51 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:51 | |
| patchbot | patch 509306 - swift - Let clients request heartbeats during SLO PUTs | 21:51 |
| openstack | Meeting ended Wed Oct 11 21:51:08 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:51 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-10-11-21.00.html | 21:51 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-10-11-21.00.txt | 21:51 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/swift/2017/swift.2017-10-11-21.00.log.html | 21:51 |
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