Wednesday, 2017-10-11

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zhiyuanlet's start our meeting01:00
zhiyuan#startmeeting tricircle01:00
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openstackThe meeting name has been set to 'tricircle'01:00
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songhello I am song from szzt. last week we fininshed the tricircle qos test case  . and we have01:00
songpass all in ourself dev envirment.But we heared that the test envirment has some problem01:00
songso we do not push the pr until the test envirment is ok.01:00
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zhiyuanto song, yes, that's the first topic I would like to discuss01:01
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zhiyuan#topic zull v3 check01:01
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zhiyuaninfra team is migrating zuul from v2 to v3, and it is not stable enough currently01:02
zhiyuanbut according to the message from the mail list, "It is however non-gating, in the sense that it will not attempt to01:03
zhiyuanmerge a change nor prevent it from merging.01:03
songso we push the qos test pr until it is stable enough,how about?01:03
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zhiyuanso I think if the patch passes the jenkins check pipeline, we just merge the patch?01:04
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joehuangInfra should provide a stage phase for zuul V201:04
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zhiyuanlike this patch:
songagree with it01:04
RonghUIhi all sorry for late01:05
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zhiyuanthe patch above also fix the configuration of rabbitmq, which affects the jenkins check01:05
zhiyuanhi joe01:06
joehuang_there are should be v2 and v3 job in paralell01:06
joehuang_and make sure v2 jobs are still working01:06
joehuang_and v3 jobs can be non-voting jobs01:07
joehuang_after v3 jobs and zuul v3 become stable, switch v2 jobs to v3 jobs01:07
zhiyuanas the test result of patch 508496 shows, both jenkins and zuul pipeline are running01:07
Yipeithere does exist some problem with the configuration of rabbitmq, making the installation fail01:07
Yipeiyesterday, i tried to install tricircle with devstack, it fails01:08
zhiyuanto yipei, yes, it's fixed in 50849601:08
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joehuang_so we should merge 508496 anyway01:08
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zhiyuani think so, since zuul pipeline is non-gating01:08
joehuang_legacy-tricircle-dsvm-functionalPOST_FAILURE in 28m 53s01:09
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joehuang_legacy-tricircle-dsvm-multiregionRETRY_LIMIT in 4m 04s01:09
joehuang_both these two jobs only in zuul v3 not working01:10
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joehuang_ok, approve the patch to be merged first01:10
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zhiyuanyes, sometimes the ansible master fails to connect to other nodes so it fails to post the logs01:10
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zhiyuanit's also said that infra team is planning to roll forward out of the partial Zuul v3 rollback starting at 11:00 UTC on Wednesday October 1101:12
zhiyuanso there wil be some CI downtime01:12
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RonghUIthat's too regretful01:13
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zhiyuanok, the jenkins gate pipeline is working01:15
zhiyuanfrom zuul.openstack.org01:15
zhiyuanbut i notice the python27 test fails :(01:15
zhiyuani will update the patch later01:16
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joehuang_almost all failure.01:17
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joehuang_The following packages have unmet dependencies: libcurl4-gnutls-dev : Depends: libcurl3-gnutls (= 7.47.0-1ubuntu2.2) but 7.47.0-1ubuntu2.3 is to be installed01:18
joehuang_maybe because some requirements update not merged01:18
joehuang_or recheck01:19
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RonghUIi just see the requirements update patch from OpenStack Proposal Bot, all failure01:20
zhiyuanfor dependency issue like this, I think the global requirement needs to be updated01:20
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RonghUIyou mean we should manual upgrade the global requirement?01:21
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zhiyuanoh, it seems that it's the dependency issue of app, not python library01:24
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zhiyuani will check the mail list to see if there's some discussion about this01:25
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zhiyuan#topic queens-1 plan01:25
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zhiyuanqueens-1 deadline is from Oct16 to Oct2001:26
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zhiyuani feel like we have risk to finish our plan for queens-101:27
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zhiyuanlb, default group update, user distinguish are targeted in queens-101:28
xuzhuangFor default security group update i havecommited the first version code.01:28
Yipeii will submit the configuration guide this week, hope it can work in other environments01:29
zhiyuani see it. there may be several runs of modification for it01:29
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Yipeistill don't know why the amphora doesn't work, very annoying01:30
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zhiyuanwill test it01:32
dongfengAbout tricircle client, new patch for job pagination is committed.01:33
zhiyuando we need to postpone lb to queens-2?01:33
Yipeito zhiyuan, if the configuration guide works, i think don't need to postpone it01:34
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xuzhuangAnd there are some problems, i haven't find the solution. Waiting for your review01:36
zhiyuanit may also be some midifications on the configuration guide01:36
Yipeiok, i see, so we postpone it to queens-201:36
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zhiyuanit seems that joe is temporary offline01:39
joehuang_hello, just come back01:39
joehuang_seems lots of our work were blocked by infra-issue01:40
zhiyuanyes, so we are talking about that we may have risk to finish the queens-1 plan01:40
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joehuang_we can move these to queens-201:41
joehuang_tricircle is not strict mile-stone aligned project01:42
joehuang_we can adjust the milestone date if needed01:42
joehuang_our release model is "cycle-with-intermediary",
joehuang_no need to strict follow community milestone date, sure it'll be better if we can.01:44
zhiyuanic, so do we tag queens-1 around Oct16 to Oct20? at least the integration test with nova cell v2 is done01:44
joehuang_of course we can, it's a great step to work with cells v201:45
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zhiyuanok, hopefully the py27 error can be fixed soon01:46
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songhi,all.the qos test case are most made by szzt team xiaohan zhang and he is very family with the openstack especially with the openstack what next plan we can do?01:47
zhiyuanwe have a schedule in this page:
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zhiyuanwhat about this: Network deletion reliability01:50
songok, we will see this detail after the meeting and choose one.01:50
zhiyuanronghui first would like to have a try but not confirmed yet, so there is a "TBD"01:51
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zhiyuanfine, we can talk about the detail offline01:52
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songthank you. we will seen it after the meeting.and conform it a little later.01:52
joehuang_I found the etherpad is not linked to wiki page, just working on it01:53
zhiyuanthanks, joe01:53
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zhiyuanany other topic?01:55
RonghUIno for me01:55
xuzhuangno for me01:55
dongfengno for me01:55
zhiyuanok, thanks for attending the meeting01:56
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b1airohello all11:00
khapponeHello blair & co11:01
b1airo#startmeeting scientific_wg11:01
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b1airo#chair martial11:01
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b1airo#topic Roll call - wave if you are "here"11:02
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b1airohi enolfc11:03
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b1airokhappone, i take it that is Kalle from CSC?11:03
khapponeb1airo: correct11:03
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b1airodon't think i have seen you for a while, hope you're doing well!11:04
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b1airo#topic Agenda11:05
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khapponeYes! It's been a while! You know how it is, busy :)11:05
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khapponeAnd trying to keep up with 4 other forums where scientific openstack is discussed :)11:05
b1airoI think today may be a quick one, but we'll see... on the agenda thus far I have:11:05
b1airoSydney Summit session prep11:05
b1airoMonash OpenStack HPC expansion plans11:05
b1airoMellanox SR-IOV / RoCE tuning shenanigans11:05
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b1airoand I am personally interested to recap on the Image Naming Conventions discussion from last week that I missed11:06
khapponeYes, I was going to ask if that could be discussed in this timezone11:06
martialwavy thingie :)11:06
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b1airohi martial :-)11:06
simon-AS559Hello, sorry for joining late.11:06
martialhi Blair, as mentioned, getting one kid out the door :)11:06
b1airoalright, so topic #1...11:07
b1airono probs martial - you better go martial your kid... ;-)11:07
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b1airo#topic Sydney Summit11:07
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b1airothe summit is coming up fast, who's coming?11:08
b1airoI know Stig and martial are11:08
khapponeI can't sadly make it, nor my colleagues11:08
simon-AS559zioproto is, I'm not.11:08
simon-AS559(He's busy on another line right now.)11:08
b1airohi simon-AS559, that's a shame, but good that zioproto will be there at least11:08
zioprotoI am here11:09
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martialb1airo: instilling discipline ... check :)11:09
b1airoit's about this time we normally start compiling a list of sessions of interest to sciencey inclined folks11:09
b1airoplus we have our own sessions to plan and promote - there is a Scientific BOF session and a Scientific Lightning Talk session11:10
enolfcI'm still not sure if I will be able to make it11:10
martialand we have two forum sessions that we ought to hear back on this week11:11
b1airoenolfc, if you need an official invite I can have a chat with Malcolm...11:11
b1airomartial, yes that's right11:11
b1airomartial, do you recall if we already started an etherpad for lightning talk possibilities?11:12
enolfcthanks b1airo, official invite in principle not needed11:12
b1airoi thought we might have but am not having much luck finding a link...11:12
martialb1airo: I believe so, but I might be wrong11:13
zioprotoI did not see any link11:14
b1airook, well i have minted a new one and if we find an old one (i haven't done a decent search of the previous IRC logs yet) then we can copy that content in11:14
priteauThere is also
priteauwith some content already, not sure if that's the lightning talks?11:15
martialI checked the ones we listed on the September 27th meeting but they are not needed anymore11:15
b1airohi priteau!11:15
b1airothanks, yes that was for some quick forum session brain storming (something we sort of failed to coordinate very well i'm sorry)11:15
martialwe got two that are not "refused" yet :)11:16
b1airoso, if you are going to be in Sydney and have a story to tell, please add your name, topic and two sentence outline to that new etherpad11:16
b1airohere it is again:
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martialb1airo: we ought to post on the ML as well at this point11:18
b1airoyes martial , i will follow up on that later11:18
martialI know it is hard to get people to both meetings11:18
b1airo#action b1airo to post to ML re. lightning talks11:18
martialdepending on the number of proposals, we might need to have a vote11:19
b1airook, that is probably enough on that. i'll also mint another etherpad to use as a scientific summit guide, i.e., place to note done sessions of interest to start your personal agenda off11:19
b1airomartial, yeah possibly - let's cross that bridge if we get to it11:19
b1airook, next thing was from me...11:20
martialagreed, was looking for the time we had per session11:20
b1airo#topic Monash OpenStack HPC expansion plans11:20
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b1airoI kind of disappeared down a rabbit hole the last month - just as I should have been helping with book chapter reviews (sorry!)11:21
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b1airothe reason for that is we are embarking on a major uplift of the system (M3) we built a little of a year ago11:21
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b1aironot sure how interested people are in hearing about new kit etc so i'll keep this brief and you can ask me questions if you have any more interest11:22
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b1airoa few months ago it became apparent that our present compute capability was not going to be sufficient to service all the expected new demand over the next 3-12 months11:23
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b1airothere are a few new and upgraded instruments around Monash University that are coming online and, once fully operational, will produce a lot of data, all of which needs heavy computational workflows of one kind or other to produce science results11:25
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martialwhat was your "expected use" vs "okay we really need"?11:25
b1airoit's mostly the later11:25
b1airo*latter (can't spell tonight)11:25
b1airoanyway, a strategic proposal (read: plea) was put into the Research Portfolio and after a lot of scrambling to find unspent money and a few raids we will be adding around 2PB of Lustre, 2800 cores, 60 V100s11:27
martialpretty nice11:28
b1airoand some cups and string for them all to talk11:28
khapponeAll of them under OpenStack?11:28
b1airokhappone, yes, in one way or another...11:28
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martialthe cups and strings will work ... plus they can have coffee in the unused cups :)11:29
b1airowe are also just kicking off some work to get started with Ironic, planning to use it mainly as an internal management/deployment tool at first and then transition into a user-facing service11:29
b1airothe actual bare-metal versus KVM split for the main HPC workloads is not yet determined, but probably a large amount bare-metal now11:30
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khapponeIs the workload expected to be true HPC or more HTC?11:31
b1airothe Lustre capacity is expansion only, no new servers, just several hundred new disks11:31
enolfcsince you mention KVM, have you tested LXD?11:31
b1airokhappone, it is small scale HPC - several of the primary use-cases commonly use ~4-8 node MPI jobs11:32
b1airobut it is mostly data-centric processing11:32
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khapponeGreat. Just curious about the direction others are going in, and their architectural choices11:33
b1airosome of the MPI jobs are just using MPI for coordination, not any shared-memory or messaging11:33
b1airoenolfc, no we haven't tried LXD yet, but I am LXD-curious - have you any experience?11:33
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b1airoit would probably be a worthwhile investment of time though11:34
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b1airowe have really pushed KVM in terms of tuning and it can provide almost bare-metal performance, but there is also an overhead in hitting issues etc that we are starting to have difficulty keeping up with along with the amount of infra we're now operating11:35
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b1airook, no more questions on that. we can move onto something semi-related...11:37
b1airo#topic Mellanox SR-IOV / RoCE tuning shenanigans11:37
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b1airoone thing we do for our virtualised HPC is use SR-IOV to get our data/mpi networks into guests11:37
b1airowhen we bought in some new P100 nodes (Intel Broadwell) earlier in the year we had this weird issue where we could not run 28 core MPI jobs, i.e., all cores in a node11:38
b1airoIIRC it worked up to 27 cores and then died with an MXM error at 28 cores11:39
priteauSounds like a fun bug11:40
b1airoanyway, that turns out to be courtesy of Mellanox's HCOLL functionality11:40
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b1airowhich is part of their Fabric Collectives Accelerator11:40
khapponeYeah! I'm sitting on the edge if my chair waiting for blair to type faster11:41
b1airooddly, FCA is on by default, but so far as I can tell it only really helps properly big parallel workloads11:41
b1airo(though we are yet to benchmark on-versus-off to confirm that)11:42
khapponeFCA took one core for itself or something similar?11:42
b1airoanyway, disabling hcoll allows bigger numprocs jobs - the problem is with memory allocation11:42
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b1airothe device driver appears to need more memory when using these oflloads11:43
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khapponeIs this solution documented anywhere where google will find it if we hit it later?11:44
b1airoMellanox recommended tuning the PF_LOG_BAR_SIZE and VF_LOG_BAR_SIZE firmware config parameters to fix this properly, rather than disabling HCOLL11:45
b1airoso we diligently did this and then our server would not boot!11:45
martialseems this topic #2 is not into topic #3 :)11:46
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b1airosadly some BIOS' prevent mapping the BAR over addresses which surpass 4GB11:46
b1airoand that can then cause the device to hang11:47
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b1airoand I guess for these Dell servers they do not continue bootup with devices in such a state11:47
b1airokhappone, so far this is all in a support case with Mellanox - but they have reproduced and I believe they will be addressing with Dell too11:48
khapponeOk, good to know11:48
b1airoonce we have determined the BAR tuning fixes the problem I will post about it on the Mellanox community forums11:49
b1airothere is one other brief thing to mention on Mellanox tuning if you are using Ethernet11:49
b1airofor RoCE workloads they recommend tuning the device ring-buffers, i.e., increasing them from default11:50
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b1airorecently we hit some OOMs and as a result noticed that increasing the RX & TX ring-buffers on a single port to 8192 respectively ate another ~3.5GB of memory11:51
b1airothis is not intuitive (or documented) until you know that the ring-buffer is a per-core resource11:52
khapponeYes. I had to dig into linux networking and ring buffer internals a while back.11:53
b1airoand each ring-buffer "slot" takes the amount of memory required to fit a frame into, e.g. for 9000 MTU that will be 3 pages per frame (12K)11:53
khapponeThis tuning is done on the VM side if you use SR-IOV?11:53
b1airono it's host-side on the PF, so the OOM we hit was QEMU being killed :-(11:53
b1airoalright, let's briefly talk about he image guidelines in the last few mins!11:54
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b1airo#topic Cloud Image Recommendations / Standardisation11:54
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khapponeBackground: We spend too much time with our image creation and management. We make some "important" local site-specific tweaks11:55
b1airokhappone, i am interested in your work because we also did something similar for Nectar a while back in a project i lef11:55
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khapponePretty much each NREN/scientific site I've talked to have had the same issues11:55
martialIS that somehow related to what Stif shared in the past ?11:55
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khapponeAfter discussing, we realized that each site has "Important local tweaks", but most of them don't overlap at all, so we started questioning the needs to do any local tweaks11:57
b1airokhappone, i agree - images are a bit of a drain11:57
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khapponebased on that I wrote a document with recommendations how to manage images for scientific sites. Basically it lists images, their sources, and suggested naming, It says don't touch them, just upload them and keep them up to date11:58
martiallooked at the page, very nice. I like the fact that images are updated regularily11:58
b1airook, i see this work is more about high-level standardisation across clouds - that's good, doesn't really overlap too much with what we were working on, which is about a process for users contributing images into the cloud:
khapponeThe idea is that many sites would have identical images, and identical image management processes. The benefits would be that tools could be shared, and that sites could trusts that any appliances that are built on these don't have unnecessary site-specific tweaks11:59
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b1airoi'm curious about the tweaks you came up with...12:00
b1airo(the list of, i mean)12:00
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khapponeE.g. we could build CUDA images, and it would be the base image + cuda, with no strange our tweaks. This means anybody conforming to this could just take it, point their automation to the source of the image and basically have it with zero effort12:00
b1airooh dear - we are over time! khappone, do you want to join me in #scientific-wg channel to continue discussing for another 5 mins?12:01
khapponeb1airo: sure12:01
b1airothank you all!12:01
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jftaltahi team13:03
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jftaltaoops, not the right day for i18n meeting...13:09
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witek#startmeeting monasca14:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct 11 14:00:23 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is witek. Information about MeetBot at
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witekHello everyone14:00
witekagenda as always:
witeklooks light for today14:01
witek#topic Queens priorities14:02
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witekI have updated the page14:02
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witekwould like to merge it soon14:03
witekI would like to ask the owners to add short description of the defined priorities14:03
witekwe also have some unassigned items14:04
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scas usual I have a meeting strarting righ now ;-)14:04
akiraYsorry, it's hard to join this meeting.14:04
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witekshould we think of different time for meeting?14:05
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akiraYi don't think so.14:06
witekakiraY: I think it's most difficult for you (and others in Japan)14:06
joadavisI'm ok with this time, but I am not a regular, so I don't count. ;)14:07
kojino problem for me :)14:07
nseyvetno pb here.14:08
witekcool, let's move on then14:08
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witekany questions to prios?14:08
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joadavisNo, I'll add a quick description as another patch14:09
witekjoadavis: thanks14:09
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witek#topic Queens-1 milestone14:09
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witekwe're reaching the first Queens milestone next week14:10
witekI'll be tagging the repos14:10
joadavisCool. I'm sure you have it covered, but just in case, please be sure monasca-transform and monasca-ceilometer are included in your tag list14:11
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witekyes, we'll include14:11
witekwe still have problems with Zuul jobs14:12
witekthe migration at openstack-infra is in progress14:12
jgrIs there any word on how long it will take?14:13
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jgrAmong other things that's blocking which is in turn blocking Monasca on Pike for SUSE...14:13
witekthey wanted to rollout the new version today, but haven't due to unrelated issues14:13
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jgrFor if it takes a lot longer I'll just add that patch to our package locally :-)14:14
witekI'm afraid I cannot predict right now14:14
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witek#topic oslo policy14:16
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witekjgr: your stage14:16
jgrwitek: thanks :-)14:16
jgrSo I finished the first draft of the spec for using oslo.policy in monasca-{api,log-api}14:17
jgrIt gives a rough outline of what we'd need to do to use oslo.policy and fulfill that community goal about policy in code14:18
jgrIt's fairly straightforward for monasca-api because policy enforcement is mostly centralized there. It's not so straightforward for monasca-log-api because policy enforcement for monasca-log-api is all over the place.14:19
jgrI still hope to find a volunteer to implement this... :-)14:19
jgrI've done some research and identified most of the places that would need modifying, but I don't think I'll have the spare cycles to implement both this and
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jgrSo...any takers?14:20
witekif there are no volunteers I can take it14:21
jgrThat'd be great14:21
nseyvethumm witek I think we could handle it14:22
nseyvetif u want14:22
witeknseyvet: cool14:22
jgrAlso, I can definitely ride shotgun on it (review, comment, help)14:22
jgrI think I'll find time for that much :-)14:23
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nseyvetAmir will handle it.14:23
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witekthat's really cool, let's review the spec then and Amir can start implementing14:25
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nseyvetsounds good.14:26
witekthanks nseyvet14:26
witek#topic Cassandra14:26
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witekis jgu there?14:27
jguwitek: I am here14:27
witekyour stage :)14:27
jguI finished the monasca api and persister (Java) to support cassandra. I think it's ready for review.14:28
jguI created a story board and added link to the etherpad. do you want me to add the sotry board link to the review comments?14:28
witekto the commit messages only14:29
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jguwitek: sorry that's what I meant... commit msg. still trying to wake up14:29
jgusgrasley is working on the performance benchmark tool. do you prefer to add a perf testing folder in api and persister or have a new project?14:30
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witekis it Cassandra specific or general?14:31
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jgugeneral, testing against kafka+persister and monasca rest api.14:31
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witekit might be worth adding to monasca-api, does he has already some code to take a look at?14:32
jgunot yet ready to send up for review14:32
witekif we have some generic perf testing we could thing of adding rally gate jobs14:33
jguthat'd be cool. do you know what kind of hardware and deployment config on the rally gate?14:34
witekno, would have to investigate14:34
witekso, if the code is something that we potentially could integrate in CI, it definitely makes sense to add existing repos14:36
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jguokay, that makes sense.14:36
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witekanything else on Cassandra?14:38
jguno, thanks!14:38
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witekany other topics?14:40
Fouad_Benamranewitek: Hello14:40
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Fouad_Benamranewitek: I've written a new agent for network congestion, how can I propose it.14:41
Fouad_Benamranefor review14:41
witekas the first step you should create a story with short description in StoryBoard14:42
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witekif you have the code already, submit the code to review with the reference to the story14:42
Fouad_Benamranewitek: the link please.14:42
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Fouad_Benamranewitek: ok, I will submit the description and the code for review.14:44
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Fouad_Benamranewitek: thank you14:44
witekI understand you have a new plugin14:45
witekfor agent, right?14:45
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Fouad_Benamranewitek: yes a new agent plugin.14:46
witekwhat metrics does it provide?14:46
Fouad_Benamranewitek: it sends the packets and bytes and source of congestion. It's based on ECN marked packets14:47
witekOK, I'm interested to see your change, thanks14:48
Fouad_Benamranewitek: Thank you for your help.14:49
witekyou're welcome :)14:49
witeksome more topics?14:49
witekif not, I'll be closing14:50
witekthank you everyone14:50
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ad_rien_#startmeeting massively_distributed_clouds15:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct 11 15:00:08 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is ad_rien_. Information about MeetBot at
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ad_rien_#chair ad_rien_ parus15:00
openstackCurrent chairs: ad_rien_ parus15:00
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ad_rien_#topic roll call15:00
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parusGood Morning / Afternoon :-)15:00
ad_rien_Hi guys15:00
ad_rien_Please do not forget to add your name in the pad15:01
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ad_rien_#info agenda15:01
ad_rien_#link  (line 1314)15:01
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ad_rien_Hi jamemcc_15:02
ad_rien_anyone else?15:02
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ad_rien_ok so let's start15:03
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ad_rien_So today I would like to change a bit the way we manage the announcement15:03
ad_rien_(just to try to be as fruiftull as possible)15:03
ad_rien_So latest news are on the pad.15:03
ad_rien_if you have questions / comments , please feel free ;)15:03
ad_rien_The same, please if you want to add some elements15:04
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ad_rien_do not hesitate to complete the current items15:04
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jamemcc_ok, good approach s we usually use up all the time15:05
ad_rien_ok any comments15:05
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ad_rien_ok so let's focus on the on going activities15:05
ad_rien_#topic announcement15:05
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ad_rien_please see the pad15:05
ad_rien_#topic on-going activities15:05
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ad_rien_Who starts ?15:06
ad_rien_could you please tell us a few words regarding your presentation?15:06
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dancnI will add a recap on behalf of dsantoro on the ehterpad15:06
rcherrueauo/ (sorry I am late)15:06
AlexvkHi everyone15:06
ad_rien_dancn:  ACK ;)15:06
dancnpoint that may require a discussion:15:07
dancnsomebody will be at ?15:07
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* ad_rien_ is looking for dates/locations15:08
dancnOctober 30 - November 1, 2017 | Santa Clara, CA15:08
ad_rien_not from Inria15:08
dancnThis setup is enough stable for our demo, we do not plan to work aggressively on those issues, but if you have suggestion please go ahead!15:09
ad_rien_will someone from FBK attend this event?15:09
dancnyes Silvio Cretti and Domenico Siracusa15:09
dancnthey are currenly "area head" of a couples of areas (cloud and networking) here in FBK15:10
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ad_rien_will you (FBK) present something?15:10
ad_rien_forget my question15:11
ad_rien_the answer is on the text you copied/pasted15:11
dancnsorry, maybe I pasted too much info in the ehterpad15:11
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pramchan_#info pramchan15:11
ad_rien_dancn:  sorry should we discuss one particular point?15:11
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ad_rien_there is indeed several informations in the text you pasted15:12
pramchan_#is there a Audio call to connect to link please?15:12
ad_rien_no pramchan_15:12
dancnonly this point:15:12
dancnThis setup is enough stable for our demo, we do not plan to work aggressively on those issues, but if you have suggestion please go ahead!15:12
ad_rien_pramchan_: line 131315:12
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parusdancn: question15:13
ad_rien_dancn:  regarding the issue line 1362. Are you in touch with Neutron developpers?15:13
parusat line 1354 you say default is to route to controller.15:13
ad_rien_it may make sense to contact them15:13
parusBut if I read this right when you installed DVR, you did route directly?15:14
dancnad_rien_: no contact, maybe somebody here can introuce us, or maybe we can have a joint talk in person in sydney15:14
dancnparus: the dvr_snat was installed on the edge node15:15
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dancnit seems to be possile to have different dvr_snat in different nodes15:16
dancnbut we werent able to configure them in a progammatical way15:16
msimoninSince it's kolla based deployment, maybe there's something missing in Kolla ?15:16
ad_rien_dancn:  my proposal is to try to isolate those issues (i.e. the one line 1365)15:17
ad_rien_and if you can isolate them (i.e. ensure that those issues do not come from an external third party software). Then those bugs should be discussed with Neutron folks15:17
dancnmsimonin: the conf were done manually after the kolla setup15:17
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dancnfor sure we need some reproducible environment to advance the debug15:18
rcherrueaudancn: l.1363, did you mean you have to change the configuration file manually ?15:18
ad_rien_ok unfortunately I don't think we can help you now…15:19
dancnrcherrueau: yes, after the deploy, to move the snat to the edge node15:19
rcherrueauBecause, kolla offer a patch mechanism to change configuration file in programmatic manner15:19
* rcherrueau looking for the doc15:19
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dancnsure, if you have a pointer welcome! thanks, this end my presentation.15:20
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msimonindancn: thanks for the feedback :)15:20
ad_rien_ok thanks15:20
ad_rien_next point OpenStack ++ Presentation15:20
rcherrueausearch for `node_custom_config`15:20
ad_rien_ok maybe I can wait a bit more…. sorry rcherrueau please go ahead15:21
rcherrueaunote that you can leverage this into enos15:21
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dancnrcherrueau: tnx, I will forward this to dsantoro that unfortunatly is not here and is the main developer15:22
ad_rien_anything else gentlemen?15:22
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ad_rien_can I move to the next point?15:22
dancnfor me no more, move to next15:22
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pramchan_#did the inwinstack team provide link to updates OpenStack++ for Ocata?15:22
ad_rien_ok so let's move to OpenStack//15:22
ad_rien_so last week a few of them took part to a presentation made by Satya (from CMU, contact in the pad).15:23
ad_rien_The main difference with all the discussions we had in this WG up to now is related to the fact that one of the assumption in the OpenStack ++ work15:23
pramchan_OK will follow it offline, rying to catch up, please proceed15:23
rcherrueaudancn: OK, good. Tell him to go back to me through the gitter channel if he gets issues with enos15:24
ad_rien_is that each edge DC is not linked to the Internet15:24
ad_rien_so the issue is mainly how you can use an edge DC when the connectivity is only limited between the mobile device (i.e. a smartphone) and the edge DC (called the cloudlet)15:24
ad_rien_Such a strong limitation implies to revise the way end-users use the cloud servers15:25
ad_rien_Satya presented several contributions (He gave a few links to academic papers that present the contributions).15:26
ad_rien_I will put the link towards his web page later in the pad15:26
pramchan_#we need Inter DC connectivity or even within DC nodes i clusters to be able to use cloudlet fully15:26
ad_rien_as pramchan_ mentioned inwinstack folks have ported some contributions in the OpenStack15:26
ad_rien_when I'm saying in the OpenStack I should rather say through libraries that you can use on top of OpenStack.15:27
ad_rien_The meeting was fruitfull15:27
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parusAnything that influences what we do here?15:28
ad_rien_but we should arrange another telco to see how this integration can be done deeper in the OpenStack code (for instance there is an optimization for provisioning the VM image that might be more efficient if it is integrated with the Glance module)15:28
ad_rien_thanks parus for the questions15:28
ad_rien_From the contributions Satya presented, the work is definitely complementary, meaning that AFAIK we did not address those challenges.15:28
ad_rien_The only drawback I saw15:29
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ad_rien_is the same we have at Inria:15:29
ad_rien_This is research work15:29
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ad_rien_concrete discussions with OpenStack core-developpers didn't start15:29
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ad_rien_Inwinstack folks are interested to go deeper but I do not have more information on this aspect15:30
ad_rien_(not sure I was clear enough…. I hope it is clear)15:30
pramchan_yes the cloudlet is focussed on application devlopment and integration with back end cluster or Inter DC nocdes for mobility woll need migration approach15:30
parusVery clear thanks. I wonder if there is something we can do to address their prposed architecture. Is there a performance aspect we can investigate?15:31
ad_rien_parus:  …15:32
ad_rien_this is a good question15:32
pramchan_I mean by migration you can develop servral smat apps for AR/VR, SmarCity etc, but to scale we need to migrate them to Service Provider approach to staging and delivering service ona Reliable Scalabile platform, that I will try address in my presenation at OpenStack at Sydney15:32
ad_rien_pramchan_:  any link ?15:33
ad_rien_I mean one big assumption is that the cloudlet should be self-content15:33
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pramchan_#plus we need to measure use of resource both compute, storage, and network bandwidth to bill15:33
ad_rien_i.e. you may have a limited connections to the internel15:33
ad_rien_but this is not critical as the cloudlet (i.e. the VM deployed by the end-user into the edge DC)15:34
ad_rien_already have most of the content its need.15:34
ad_rien_s/have/has most15:34
pramchan_#link Yes Joseph had declared along with Prof Satya at OpenDev and am trying to get the github link for that15:34
ad_rien_ok pramchan_ can you please put the link in the pad15:34
ad_rien_when you will find it ;)15:35
paruspramchan_: Let's make this a point of discussion for our f2f in sydney.15:35
ad_rien_parus:  +115:35
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ad_rien_ok let's move forward15:36
ad_rien_as it is already XX:3515:36
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ad_rien_so next point Ericsson presentation15:36
ad_rien_georgk:  not sure whether you are in touch with Joao, are you?15:37
parusIt was a very enjoyable presentation !15:37
ad_rien_indeed parus15:37
ad_rien_good to see such actions15:37
georgkad_rien_: sorry, I haven´t been in contact with him recently15:38
ad_rien_so briefly the idea was to use a P2P agent based approach to use distinct openstacks15:38
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ad_rien_when a tenant wants to submit a request, he/she is redirected to one agent of the P2P overlay. This agent is in charge of managing the request by communicating with the different openstacks15:39
ad_rien_They have a PoC15:39
georgkad_rien_: I will ping him15:39
ad_rien_By developping this PoC, they faced several challenges we also faced at Inria15:39
ad_rien_We identified a couple of opportunities to collaborate and move forward15:40
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ad_rien_Joao is not there unfortunately today15:40
ad_rien_but there will be another meeting too.15:40
ad_rien_(still the same, If you are interested to take part to those exchanges, please add your contact mail below the item in the pad).15:40
ad_rien_from my side, I will ask whether Joao can send us a link to the presentation15:41
ad_rien_that's all from my side15:41
ad_rien_comments/remarks ?15:41
parusI liked how ad_rien_ described different approaches to the distribution:  Low layer effort (below openstack, Cockroack), Mid Layer efforts (e.g. regions, cells openstack++ ...), high layer efforts (above openstack e.g. ONAP). But where does P2P fit?15:42
ad_rien_that's exactly where we are I think15:42
ad_rien_and some discussions we should definitely plan to have soon15:43
ad_rien_even yesterday we spent a couple of hours trying to understand whether a distributed DB such as cockroach will be relevant for all services15:43
ad_rien_the same for the AMQP bus15:43
ad_rien_should we have a distributed one at the higher level and keep the cells appraoch15:43
ad_rien_at the low level.15:43
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ad_rien_I think that is a really interesting and complex discussions15:44
ad_rien_but we will have to address it soon and to take notes to be able to advance (right now, at least at Inria, we are going back and forth between our different conclusion).15:44
parusWe are getting to a point where there are many possible implementations.15:44
ad_rien_it would be nice if we can identify pros/cons of each approach15:45
msimonin+1 to that ad_rien_15:45
parusIt would be good to lay down the use cases and do some comparison.15:45
ad_rien_this can be a valuable document15:45
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parusThe use case presentation should help with the comparison.15:46
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ad_rien_#action start an action to try to identify pros/cons of different solutions: openstack fully distributed, cells/regions, broker based (i.e. onap)15:46
paruse.g. What implementation is good at live migration.... what implementation is good at doing rolling upgrades ....15:46
ad_rien_maybe we can define a matrix15:47
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ad_rien_of expected features15:47
ad_rien_and see the development effort to be able to deliver those features15:47
parusI could see this as a great analysis to present in Vancouver.15:47
ad_rien_one more ;)15:47
ad_rien_So many challenges for Vancouver ;)15:48
ad_rien_but yes definitely15:48
ad_rien_Let's take some notes in the pad15:48
ad_rien_meanwhile, kgiusti ansmith and msimonin can update us regarding AMQP15:48
ad_rien_Guys the floor is yours15:48
msimoninis ready for review15:49
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msimoninit would be great of some of you can go and review it :)15:49
kgiustiand the ombt test tool has been updated to provide the proper metrics for the described tests15:50
kgiustimsimonin: I've provisionally +1'd it15:50
msimoninkgiusti: I made some initial tests, didn't see anything wrong with your patch, so far15:50
ansmithmsimonin: I will review it next15:50
msimoninthanks guys from the performance WG will review it as well15:51
kgiustimsimonin: +1 - haven't pushed the new ombt2 to large scale so let me know if you hit anything15:51
msimoninansmith: thanks :)15:51
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pramchan_#info is there a comparison with MQTT, Kafka etc with AMQP?15:51
kgiustipramchan_: right now openstack does not have MQTT capabilities15:52
kgiustipramchan_: and Kafka is under development but not complete15:52
pramchan_#please refer to edgent of Apache projetcs worth looking at15:52
ansmithpramchan_: further, kafka will be supported for notifications only15:52
kgiustiedgent - will do, thanks15:52
ad_rien_kgiusti:  ansmith I just added a question in the pad (line 1395)15:53
ad_rien_we would be happy to know some information regarding that point (at least if you have some ;))15:53
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kgiustiad_rien_: I don't have those metrics - we'll have to open a dialog with the project's devs15:54
parusad_rien_: I would add one question. How much is AMQP used between projects (e.g. nova to neutron) and how much is it used withing project (neutron client to neutron server)?15:54
ad_rien_maybe there can be a way to collect such informations (i.e. not sure whether we have to discuss with all core-devs). Maybe this can be a relevant information for them too.15:54
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kgiustiad_rien_: it may be that no one's really spent the time to collect it15:54
ad_rien_kgiusti:  +115:55
ad_rien_this is a discussion we had yesterday15:55
ad_rien_Let's iscuss that point next time (only a few minutes left for parus)15:55
ad_rien_parus:  ?15:55
ad_rien_please let's talk about your deck15:55
parusVery quickly then. I have been working on Use case presentation for Sydney.15:55
parusI have a very draft deck that I shared on the etherpad.15:56
parusPlease provide any comment you can.15:56
parusI would like to conclude the deck with an invitation for people to join FEMDC.15:56
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parusIt would be good if someone has material on:15:56
ad_rien_sounds good15:56
parus1- What does FEMDC do?15:56
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parus2- What is next ?15:57
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ad_rien_parus I will do such a slide15:57
parusPlease send me comments.15:57
ad_rien_ok anything else15:57
jamemcc_I'll try to help15:57
parusAll for me.15:57
ad_rien_before moving to the open discussions15:57
ad_rien_ok thanks15:57
ad_rien_#topic open discussion15:57
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ad_rien_from my side, I can just mention that we will probably move to a SiG15:58
ad_rien_instead of being a Team15:58
ad_rien_that's all15:58
ansmithmsimonin: would it help to setup a call with alex, kgiusti to make introductions?15:58
ad_rien_from my side.15:58
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parus+1 to SIG15:58
ad_rien_ok time to conclude15:59
ad_rien_anything else15:59
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ad_rien_OK thanks all for comming.15:59
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ad_rien_keep in touch15:59
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msimoninansmith: That's a good idea15:59
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smcginnisWhere is that slacker?16:00
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jungleboyjCourtesy ping:  jungleboyj DuncanT diablo_rojo, diablo_rojo_phon, rajinir tbarron xyang xyang1 e0ne gouthamr thingee erlon patrickeast tommylikehu eharney geguileo smcginnis lhx_ lhx__16:01
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diablo_rojo_phonHello :)16:01
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jungleboyjOk, looks like we have at least the usual suspects here.16:02
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jungleboyjDinesh_Bhor_:  Welcome.16:02
smcginnisDinesh_Bhor_: You might want to add your nick to the agenda etherpad if you want reminder pings.16:02
jungleboyjThanks for joining us!16:02
Dinesh_Bhor_Sure, will do16:02
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jungleboyjWe don't have much on the agenda today.  So I am sure this will take the full hour.  ;-)16:03
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jungleboyj#topic announcements16:03
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jungleboyj:-)  Speaking of slackers16:03
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jungleboyjPlease keep an eye on the review priorities for Queens.16:04
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jungleboyjIf you have specs that you want in Queens please get them in.16:04
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jungleboyjI know we have until milestone 2, but sooner is always better.16:05
jungleboyjI have a couple in my review inbox that I hope to find time to look at today.16:05
jungleboyjAn update on ZuulV3 migration.16:05
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jungleboyjThey were planning to move back to ZuulV3 this morning.  Doesn't appear that that has happened yet.16:06
smcginnisStill preping for the zuul switch. I think it's still on for today.16:06
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jungleboyjIf you  start seeing reviews failing on Zuul, please try to help identify the problem.16:06
jungleboyjMailing list thread on what to do if you see problems:16:06
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jungleboyjInfo on the move has been happening under this thread:16:07
jungleboyjAlso, just a general call to please help with reviews.16:07
jungleboyjCould use more attention from everyone on those.16:08
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jungleboyjAlso a reminder that we have an etherpad to put your Sydney info in:
jungleboyjIf you are going, please update the etherpad.16:09
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jungleboyjThat was all I had for today.16:09
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jungleboyj#topic open discussion16:09
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jungleboyjAny other topics for today?16:10
jungleboyjBueler ... Bueler16:10
smcginnisJust all hands on deck for zuul failures once that happens.16:11
jungleboyjsmcginnis: ++16:11
jungleboyjI am a little worried about that so any help we can get there will be appreciated.16:11
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smcginnisAnd another call out for folks to actually do reviews. We could definitely use more eyes on all the patches we have out there.16:11
jungleboyjsmcginnis:  +++++16:12
jungleboyjOh, couple of FYI's on 3rd Party CI.16:12
jungleboyjLenovo's is currently down for maintenance.  They switching to a more stable implementation.16:13
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jungleboyjDoes anyone know that status of Dell/EMC's CI's?16:13
jungleboyjSwanson:  ?16:13
jungleboyjI haven't seen VMAX CI reporting for a bit.16:13
Swansonjungleboyj, beats me16:13
SwansonI'll find someone to poke.16:14
jungleboyjSwanson:  Ok, I had been informed there was a system failure a while back that they were trying to recover from but that has been quite a while now.16:14
jungleboyjSee lots of patches coming from them but not so many test results.  :-)16:14
Swansonjungleboyj, there was but the last I heard they fixed that.16:15
Swansonjungleboyj, Of course I haven't heard from any of those people since the last Event.16:15
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smcginnis"The Event" :)16:16
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SwansonThe Event 3: HR overload.16:16
jungleboyjOk, Swanson I guess it did report on patches yesterday, but I hadn't seen it on the patches I was reviewing.16:16
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jungleboyj<theater voice>  In a world where tech industries are letting people go ... </theater voice>16:17
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jungleboyjOk ... That is all I think I have right now.16:17
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* jungleboyj hands a cup of coffee to everyone16:18
tommylikehujungleboyj:  double sugar16:18
jungleboyjOk ... well, no reason to keep people here if there is nothing to discuss.16:19
jungleboyjtommylikehu:  Good to know16:19
SwansonI emailed people.16:19
jungleboyjSwanson:  Thank you!16:19
jungleboyjOk.  Please review.  Please help get ZuulV3 working.16:20
jungleboyjWe will meet here again next week.16:20
jungleboyj#endmeeting cinder16:20
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diablo_rojo_phonThank you!16:21
e0nesee you next week!16:21
jungleboyjSee you e0ne16:21
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bh526r#startmeeting gluon18:00
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bh526r#topic Roll Call18:01
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bh526r#info Bin Hu18:01
jinli#info JinLi18:01
krenczewski#info Kamil Renczewski18:01
jinliHi Bin and Kamil18:01
bh526rHi Jin and Kamil18:01
krenczewskiHi Jin and Bin18:01
bh526rHow is everything going?18:01
krenczewskiGreat, but lot of work :-)18:02
bh526r:) it is good to have some work to do18:02
jinlistill working on auto generating the the back end.18:02
bh526rsounds good18:02
bh526rany findings to share?18:02
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bh526ror still reading relevant parts of code?18:03
jinlistill reading the relevant part of code18:03
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jinliearly next week I can meet with you to discuss18:04
bh526rsounds good.18:04
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bh526rSome guy from New Jersey will go to San Ramon next week, so I may go to San Ramon Tuesday or Wednesday to meet him18:05
bh526rBut not decided yet18:05
bh526rpending on his schedule18:05
bh526rIf schedule works out and I do go to San Ramon, we can meet in San Ramon as well18:05
jinlilet me know when you comng18:05
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jinlithat will be good.18:06
bh526rSure. Let's see how schedule works18:06
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bh526rnot much from me18:07
bh526r#topic Queens work update18:07
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bh526r#info Jin is still working on auto-generating backends, and reading relevant parts of code now18:07
bh526r#info Bin and Jin will discuss some code next week18:08
bh526rnothing else from me, so we can enjoy the rest of evening for Kamil, and rest of day for Jin :)18:08
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krenczewskiOK, great18:09
bh526rlet's adjourn the meeting18:09
bh526r#info Nothing else, meeting adjourned18:09
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bh526rThank you Jin and Kamil, and bye all18:09
krenczewskiThanks, bye18:09
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jinlibye all18:10
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SotKanyone around for the storyboard meeting?18:59
* SotK will do a quick update-y style meeting whilst waiting to see if anyone arrives19:01
SotK#startmeeting storyboard19:01
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SotK#link Agenda19:01
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diablo_rojoHello :)19:02
SotKhey diablo_rojo19:02
SotK#topic In Progress Work19:02
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* Zara wanders in late19:02
SotKhi there19:02
SotKso, I sent a patch to consolidate some of our old database migrations19:03
SotKI got tired of our tests constantly timing out and decided to pick that low hanging fruit to speed them up a bit19:03
Zarathanks :)19:03
diablo_rojoMuch appreciated19:03
SotKthere is also but I am going to send a new version of that addressing persia's comment19:04
persiaShould I -1 it to make that more clear, or is your follow-up comment sufficient?19:05
SotKmy comment is probably sufficient, I expect to send the new version shortly after this meeting19:05
SotKI also rebased and re-sent the patch for fixing the bug where all automatic worklists say they have 0 items19:05
SotKI finally started looking at linkable story template-y things too, but then got sidetracked debugging our apparent email notifications issue19:06
diablo_rojoSotK, no worries, I think the email notification is kind of more important.19:07
SotKother in-progress things, we got some patches earlier today that are a nice cosmetic fix and need review19:07
Zaramy review backlog is massive again :)19:08
SotKheh :D19:08
SotKdiablo_rojo: yeah, I agree19:08
diablo_rojoZara, wouldn't want to leave you bored with nothing to do :)19:08
SotKregarding that email issue, there appear to be two problems that I now suspect are unrelated to each other19:08
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SotKone where the preferences page doesn't work immediately after logging in without a page refresh19:09
SotKand one where some people aren't getting emails even if their preference is set correctly19:09
SotKI can't do much to debug the latter without seeing the production database I suspect, since I've not yet been able to reproduce it and would like to rule out db weirdness19:10
SotKI also put Launchpad Migration on the agenda, though I've not gotten to testing any projects this week personally I'm afraid19:11
persiaToday is a full day for most of the admins, but perhaps we can ask for some admin time at the meeting next Tuesday?19:11
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diablo_rojoI talked to i18n and it seems that there is a discussion on the ML about another project looking to migrate19:13
* diablo_rojo can't remember the project and looks for the ML thread19:13
SotKpersia: yup, I was planning to wait until zuul things are quieter before I go asking for help from folk19:13
SotKpersia: next Tuesday's meeting seems as sensible a time as any19:13
SotKdiablo_rojo: that one?19:14
* persia thought diablo_rojo replied to that one19:14
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diablo_rojoYep thats the one19:15
diablo_rojoThey seem to be pretty on board without my prodding which is awesome.19:16
SotKindeed :)19:17
diablo_rojoStill haven't heard back from the other PTL's I've tried to reach out to- Tricircle and Watcher?19:18
diablo_rojoI think I might just ping them on IRC19:18
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persiaThe latter group seems active and responsive on IRC.  I don't have any experience with the former.19:18
diablo_rojoI guess that is what I will do then :)19:19
SotKthanks diablo_rojo19:20
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diablo_rojoSotK, no problem :)19:20
diablo_rojoIf anyone does get around to testing other projects and their migrations work let me know :)19:20
* SotK will attempt to do so19:20
diablo_rojoCool :)19:21
diablo_rojoAlso working on a draft release goal to present in Sydney if people want to look it over when I push it. I will add them as reviewers19:21
persiaHas anyone tried a "migrate all the projects" run recently?  I wonder if there are outstanding migration issues beyond cross-project integration or external tooling19:22
persiadiablo_rojo: Please add me as a reviewer, in case I'm not paying close enough attention.19:22
SotKdiablo_rojo: that would be of interest to me too please19:22
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diablo_rojoCan do.19:22
SotKpersia: I have not, I suspect such run would take a not-insignificant amount of time19:23
persiahuman time or machine time?19:23
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SotKmachine time mostly, since the need to run the migration tool per-project could be pretty easily scripted out of the way19:24
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SotKanything else in progress to discuss?19:26
diablo_rojoI kind of have that starter patch (if you can even qualify it that much) to comment on lp bugs as they are migrated with links to the new sb story.19:27
diablo_rojoI -W cause it is definitely not ready to go in, but if people want to take a look and tell me I am horribly wrong I wouldn't complain :)19:28
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* SotK will have a look at it19:28
ZaraI just have reviews to do; other than that my in-progress is eating dinner19:30
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diablo_rojoZara, I am eating lunch :)19:30
persiaIf someone else would be willing to volunteer to script testing, I can try to get some machine time.19:30
diablo_rojopersia, go for it :)19:30
persiaI don't need the script to get the time, but I would need to make sure it would be written, so I can point the donor at results.19:31
persiadiablo_rojo: Thanks :)19:31
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SotKthanks persia :)19:32
* diablo_rojo has like 90 other things on her plate otherwise she would help out19:33
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* SotK can probably find time to do the scripting part19:33
SotKanything else in progress?19:34
persiaSotK: Then I'll let both you and diablo_rojo know if I can arrange machine time :)19:34
SotK#topic Open Discussion19:35
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SotKI'll leave this open for a little while in case anything bursts into someone's mind, and then end the meeting early if everyone is busy eating dinner :)19:37
ZaraI am definitely busy eating dinner19:38
Zarasorry for my terrible timing this week19:38
SotKhaha, no problem19:38
ZaraI should be able to eat earlier next week at least19:39
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SotKalright, thanks for coming folk!19:41
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diablo_rojoThanks SotK :)19:45
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ekhugen#startmeeting wos_mentoring20:05
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ekhugensorry diablo_rojo I got caught in another meeting20:05
ekhugenwho else is here for mentoring?20:05
diablo_rojoLol I am here20:07
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diablo_rojoSo, what's on the agenda?20:07
ekhugenprobably talking about sydney mostly20:07
diablo_rojoBefore that- I made 5 more long term mentoring matches and emailed them20:08
ekhugendid we have any signups yet for mentors/mentees?  I need to put the call for mentors out on the dev and WOO mailing lists20:08
ekhugenoh yes, I did see that, thank you!20:08
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diablo_rojoekhugen, we have a few mentors, didn't see any mentees but I will go look now to see if that has changed20:08
diablo_rojoI also talked to Anne and Sonia about getting tweets scheduled promoting the signups20:08
diablo_rojoso we should start seeing those soon20:08
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ekhugenawesome, thanks!20:08
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ekhugenif we have a few mentors and not many mentee signups, maybe we don’t need to push so hard for more mentors20:09
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diablo_rojo5 mentors20:10
ekhugenare they a mix of technical/career/community?20:11
diablo_rojo0 mentees20:11
diablo_rojo2 community, 1 technical, 2 career20:11
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diablo_rojoSending both of the signups out the various ML would help generate some interest.20:12
diablo_rojoWe should probably pick a date to do a meeting with the mentors and prep them for whats up.20:12
ekhugenokay, I can send those out20:12
diablo_rojoekhugen, that would be awesome.20:12
ekhugenand yeah, I’m thinking maybe this time on the 25th?20:13
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diablo_rojoYeah that will work for me20:13
ekhugendo you mind sending me the mentor’s emails and I’ll send a meeting invite to them?20:14
* diablo_rojo goes to share the doc with you20:14
diablo_rojoI have mentors on sheet 220:15
diablo_rojomentees on sheet 120:15
ekhugengot it, thanks!20:16
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diablo_rojoNo problem20:16
ekhugenwe should also probably update the set of slides to apply to sydney
diablo_rojoYeah probably :)20:17
ekhugenI think a lot of it’s the same, but we need to decide who’s going to emcee and who’s going to keep time20:17
ekhugenand we can get rid of the stuff about baseball cards20:17
diablo_rojoI updated the details.20:19
diablo_rojoOf the time/link etc20:19
diablo_rojoMaybe instead of baseball cards we can just urge people to bring enough business cards?20:19
ekhugenyou and amrith both signed up as mentors, but I’m thinking it’s probably not going to be easy to be mentors and do the emcee/timekeeping20:19
diablo_rojoIf we end up getting more mentors I can switch to timekeeping :)20:20
diablo_rojoI think lunch will be grab and go like it was last time, but I will have to double check that with Erin20:21
amrithI'll bring biz cards, no worries. but I want a hat :)20:21
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amrithhi ekhugen diablo_rojo20:21
ekhugenHi Amrith20:21
diablo_rojoamrith, gotta get someone to fund the hats :)20:21
diablo_rojoIntel did it last time.20:22
ekhugendidn’t you get a hat last time, in Boston?20:22
amrithI did but I understand that in the southern hemisphere, hats go the opposite direction or something20:22
amrithdiablo_rojo what's the sponsorship on hats?20:22
diablo_rojoSo its shoes?20:22
diablo_rojoamrith, good question, not sure actually. Sounds like an erin question20:22
diablo_rojoCould do shirts or something if you'd prefer.20:23
diablo_rojoI recall you being good at designing them ;)20:23
amrithhappy to wear a shirt for the event, I was planning on not wearing one but happy to change plans ...20:23
amrithdiablo_rojo that was frank, not me20:23
amrithwhich reminds me, I need to order my custom t-short for sydney20:23
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diablo_rojoHa ha ha ha pretty sure this will be in an air conditioned room, not the beach20:24
diablo_rojoI imagine we can get spotz to help us with all of this.20:24
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diablo_rojoSo looks like the slides are just about good to go20:27
diablo_rojoekhugen, are you going to be there?20:29
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ekhugenno, diablo_rojo I’m moving off of openstack for my official job, so I don’t have funding to go to sydney20:30
diablo_rojoekhugen, sad panda :(20:30
ekhugenyeah, unfortunately20:30
amrithsorry to hear that ekhugen20:30
ekhugenback to the world of assembler coding for me20:31
ekhugenbut anything else for sydney prep we need to talk about?20:31
diablo_rojoCan someone make the table numbers?20:32
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ekhugenI can make them and mail them to you, if you can take them to sydney20:32
diablo_rojoYeah I can definitely bring them20:33
ekhugencool, thanks!20:33
ekhugenany other topics, anything else on long term mentoring, diablo_rojo?20:34
diablo_rojoekhugen, nope I don't think so20:34
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ekhugenokay, cool, I’ll send out the call for mentors and the meeting invite for the mentor prep call on the 25th20:35
ekhugenand we’ll talk over email if anything else comes up?20:35
diablo_rojoekhugen, works for me :)20:35
ekhugenthanks!  have a good day diablo_rojo and amrith!20:36
diablo_rojoekhugen, amrith thank you!20:36
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amriththx diablo_rojo20:36
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notmyname#startmeeting swift21:00
openstackMeeting started Wed Oct 11 21:00:50 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes.  The chair is notmyname. Information about MeetBot at
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notmynamewho's here for the swift meeting?21:00
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notmynamewelcome, everyone21:01
notmynamenot a lot of specific things on the agenda...21:02
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torgomaticoh hello there21:02
notmynamebut there are a few things to bring up and go over21:02
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notmynamefirst, I'd like to point out that the TC nominations have closed21:02
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notmynamethere's a big list of very interesting candidates (a *lot* of new faces) running21:03
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notmynameyou can read over their statements there21:03
_pewp_jungleboyj (ه’́⌣’̀ه )/21:03
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notmynamealso, tdasilva has updated the LP bug trend graphs21:04
notmynameso you can look at a specific time period21:04
notmynamenote the recent drop :-)21:04
notmynameand please continue to use the etherpad to triage bugs21:04
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mattoliverauNice work tdasilva21:05
tdasilvamattoliverau: thanks :)21:06
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notmynamesorry.. was trying to figure out when/if to bring up another topic. will do so at the end21:07
notmyname#topic updates from ongoing work21:07
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notmynameacoles: mattoliverau: timburke: how's container sharding work going?21:08
acolesnotmyname: going well21:08
acolessince last week's meeting I have added a 'low hanging fruit' label to the trello board21:08
acolesand added it to some tasks21:09
acolesso if anyone would like to join in search the backlog for those21:09
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mattoliverauGreat, acoles and timburke are brilliant. I've been distracted this last week, I had a swift presentation at a Canberra OpenStack Meetup that I had to prepare for in my own time. It went well tho. A bunch of people turned up, government departments etc, know someone wants me to go talk swift at one in Sydney.21:10
acolesduring last week I have spent some time on the shrinking aspect of sharding, and hope to have a simpler strategy for that..but not quite there yet21:10
notmynamemattoliverau: acoles: sounds great21:10
mattoliverauYeah the shrinking idea of acoles is a bug improvement to what was theee21:11
notmynametorgomatic expressed some interest at digging into the sharding work, too21:11
acolesalso, the ratio of test/real code is growing steadily which makes me happier21:11
acolesnotmyname: so summary from me is good progress but still long way to go21:12
notmynameno doubt21:12
notmynamekota_: how's swift3 and s3api work going?21:12
kota_that progressed a bit since the last week. all outstanding patches for the release landed except CHANGELOG21:13
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kota_I'd like to get final check from timburke on that21:13
patchbotpatch 504479 - swift3 - Change log updates for version 1.1221:13
kota_or reviewed from any other English native volunteer ;)21:14
notmynametimburke: what should we do about the SLO patch? should we ask for 1.12 to hold for that? do a 1.12.1 later? just never tag that one and land it in both repos?21:14
notmynamekota_: :-)21:14
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notmynamekota_: trust me, being a native english speaker doesn't mean you make good notes. I should know!!21:14
kota_SLO patch?21:14
kota_i may be missing that one21:15
timburkei'm assuming it'll just need to land in my fork, then get ported over to whatever s3api becomes21:15
patchbotpatch 509321 - swift3 - Support long-running multipart uploads21:15
kota_i thought it will happen on s3api branch. anyway, it depends a new patch for Swift itself.21:16
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timburkebut it won't break on old swift21:16
* kota_ is looking21:16
timburkeit *does* rather rely on what the final api for looks like, though21:17
patchbotpatch 509306 - swift - Let clients request heartbeats during SLO PUTs21:17
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notmynameI'm not sure if it needs to be completely decided in here, but I wanted to mention it so that everyone knows what's going on21:17
notmynamepoint is, there's somethign landing in swift that a requested feature for s3 compat will use, and where do we want that to land/live/be released?21:18
notmynamekota_: m_kazuhiro: anything to report this week on policy migration status?21:18
joeljwrightSorry I'm late peeps21:19
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notmynameno worries21:19
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torgomaticnotmyname: let's have it live in Swift; it's not useful *only* for S3 compatibility21:19
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kota_torgomatic: +121:19
notmynametorgomatic: right. what I mean is the s3 compat part. not the dribble-spaces part21:19
notmynamewill the s3 part ever be in a tagged release of swift3 or not21:20
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torgomaticwell, it doesn't break backwards compatibility, so it can either go into swift3 or go into Swift's future S3 compatibility layer21:20
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m_kazuhironotmyname: "policy migration" means auto-tiering? "things happening in swift" in meeting page has "policy migration" and "policy auto tiering".21:20
torgomaticit doesn't really matter where it winds up, at least from a code-management standpoint21:20
notmynamem_kazuhiro: sorry, yes21:20
kota_anyway, i think it's ok to tag on this point. if we need to backport significant change from s3api to swift3, I can consider another release maybe?21:21
notmynametorgomatic: I agree it doesn't matter. only that kota_ is just now tagging a release, and there's an idea that this may be the last tag ever for swift3 (or maybe not). so do we want to hold off on the tag for this functionality or not?21:21
notmynamekota_: ok21:22
timburkeat any rate, i'm fairly certain *i'll* be making some (private/internal) tag that includes it :P21:22
torgomatictags are cheap :)21:22
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notmynametorgomatic: BUT WHAT IF WE RUN OUT OF NUMBERS?!21:22
kota_hopefully, it's the last tag BUT I cannot prommiss it21:22
notmynamekota_: :-)21:22
timburkewe can certainly hope21:22
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notmynameah, the eternal optimism of developers... "*this* release will be great and we'll be done"21:23
m_kazuhironotmyname: In auto-tierng, there is no update. I worked for symlink this week and symlink merge is most important task for auto-tiering now.21:23
notmynamem_kazuhiro: ok21:23
timburkeno, it's more like "this release will be fine, and then it won't matter, because we're going to push everyone over *here* now"21:24
notmynamewhat's up with symlinks then. what are you blocked on there?21:24
m_kazuhironotmyname: I made etherpad page for discussion points on symlink. Link is in the meeting page.21:24
* kota_ is thinking it looks we lost coloring in the etherpad :/21:25
acolesyeah where did the colours go?21:25
kota_acoles: IDK21:25
m_kazuhiroI think some discussion points are remaining on symlink. We should discuss them.21:26
timburkefwiw, has colors still21:26
m_kazuhiroThe biggest one is about container listing behavior with symlinks.21:27
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kota_timburke: nice. would you make it back the version?21:27
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notmynamem_kazuhiro: how would you like to have that discussion? in the etherpad? or in IRC?21:28
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timburkenot sure how 🤷‍♂️21:28
m_kazuhironotmyname: I want discuss them in this irc meeting. And I will add them etherpad after irc.21:28
acolesI tried exporting that version as an etherpad but not sure what that did21:29
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notmynamem_kazuhiro: ok, let's come back to it after the other updates21:30
kota_acoles: it looks like it would be possibe to import from the exported file.21:30
m_kazuhironotmyname: thanks.21:30
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kota_notmyname: +1, it may take longer time to discuss.21:30
notmynamekota_: yes, likely21:31
notmynameI know clayg has been looking at the "extract eventlet" suite of problems. but i haven't seen him in this meeting21:31
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notmynamerledisez: any updates on LOSF work?21:31
rledisezyes, two informations21:31
rledisez1st: alecuyer has been investigating how to re-use the maximum of code from original diskfile21:32
rledisezhe tried dependency injection as discussed in Denver, but it made a very big patch21:32
rledisezso he went back on extracting FS-specific calls (eg: replacing os.listdir() by diskfile.list_part() or list_suffix(), …)21:32
rledisezany thought on that is welcome. we should probably add this discussion in topics for a next meeting21:33
rledisez2nd: we made a first production deployment last week (72 devices, 4 partitions per devices) in order to check how it behaves on real workload. so far, it looks ok, but there is so few data that it's not really reprensentative21:34
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rledisezwe found some bugs, alecuyer is fixing them21:34
notmynameoh, cool21:34
rledisezthat's all for me, except if there is any questions :)21:35
rledisezoh, we plan to move on with more data in 2 or 3 weeks21:36
notmynamelast update thing from me (the thing I referenced at the start of the meeting) is that we're working on an issue with container drives filling up. we've got reasonable tools in swift for object servers filling up, but many of those don't work for accounts or containers21:36
notmynameclayg's been working on some of that, and I wouldn't be surprised to see some patches upstream21:36
rlediseznotmyname: "container drives filling up" -> can you elaborate a bit? is there a bug report?21:37
notmynamealternative spelled "very few drives + one failed for a long time + millions of containers in the cluster"21:38
notmynamethe whole thing is terrible, but it's not an upstream bug :-)21:38
notmynamedigging out, however, may require some updates to container tools that are similar to the ones we have for objects21:38
notmynameeg handoffs only mode and stuff like that21:38
rledisezyes, there is some missing feature (eg: i missed so much —partition on container-replicator i had to implement it internally ;))21:39
notmynameyep. stuff exactly like that21:39
notmyname(push it upstream) ;-)21:40
rledisezi will, very short patch21:40
notmynamejoeljwright: any word on ambles? (/me hopes we haven't completely failed you)21:40
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joeljwrightWell I've been on holiday21:40
joeljwrightI was kind of hoping opinions might have been formed21:40
notmyname I have no opinions on that21:41
joeljwrightHas anyone had a chance to look and have any thoughts on whether this is desirable for SLO?21:41
notmynameI still like it21:43
notmynameand I like timburke's ideas on it (separate "data" segments instead of ambles)21:43
joeljwrightOkay, I'll commit to having a chat with timburke :)21:44
timburkeand i'll commit to looking at it long enough to at least being able to submit patches that pass tests :-)21:45
joeljwright:D \o/21:45
notmynamewhat else needs to be brought up today?21:45
timburkehopefully, that'll turn into me writing the data segment bits, since it seems crappy of me to force that work on someone else when it was my idea21:46
joeljwrightI'll certainly pitch in too21:47
notmynamem_kazuhiro: since I know that there hasn't been a lot of people looking at the symlinks etherpad and since we're short on time in this meeting, can you help us out with reviewing and understanding the problems there?21:47
notmynamem_kazuhiro: I mean, this week, can you bug us on IRC and make sure you get some answers about the symlinks problems21:47
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tdasilvanotmyname: may I suggest that we move the symlink conversation to #openstack-swift ?21:48
notmynameand then during the next meeting, we can review what's been discussed and summarize21:48
notmynametdasilva: yes, I agree. and over the next week21:48
m_kazuhironotmyname: tdasilva: ok21:49
notmynamem_kazuhiro: thanks21:49
acolesm_kazuhiro: we need to try to recover some clarity of authors on the etherpad if possible21:49
notmynamelast call for anything else to bring up in this meeting this week?21:49
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notmynameall right21:50
notmynamethank you for coming this week21:50
notmynamethanks for your work on swift :-)21:51
timburkei'd still like reviews on if anyone's got time -- thanks clayg for your inputs so far!21:51
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patchbotpatch 509306 - swift - Let clients request heartbeats during SLO PUTs21:51
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