| ekcs | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 00:01 |
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| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 12 00:01:18 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is ekcs. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 00:01 |
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| thinrichs | Hi all | 00:01 |
| ekcs | hello all. | 00:01 |
| ekcs | hi thinrichs | 00:01 |
| ekcs | topics here as usual: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 00:01 |
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| masahito | ekcs: hi. | 00:03 |
| ekcs | hi masahito ! | 00:03 |
| ekcs | topics here as usual: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 00:03 |
| masahito | sorry, I need to go in 30 mins. | 00:03 |
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| ekcs | got it! | 00:03 |
| ekcs | well let’s get started then. | 00:04 |
| ekcs | #topic priorities | 00:04 |
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| ekcs | since the PTG I’ve been maintaining a list of congress priorities in strict order. | 00:04 |
| ekcs | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-task-priority | 00:04 |
| ekcs | Idea is to avoid having a bunch of things all at the same priority level. | 00:05 |
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| ekcs | in reality it may not be exact, but it’s better than having 10 “high priority” items we can’t distinguish between. | 00:05 |
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| ekcs | Please take a look from time to time and make any comments, suggestions, changes as needed. | 00:06 |
| thinrichs | Total priority is good | 00:06 |
| ekcs | yups. | 00:06 |
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| ekcs | we’re making decent progress so far. 1, 2.2, 2.3, 4 are all in review. | 00:07 |
| ekcs | 1 is ready to merge just need the unblock the gate still. | 00:07 |
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| ekcs | any comments, additions, thoughts, or discussions on the list? | 00:08 |
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| thinrichs | Look good to me. I'd focus on solving community pain points, which it looks like is where the priorities are lining up. | 00:10 |
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| ekcs | thinrichs: agreed on focusing on concrete pain points. | 00:11 |
| ekcs | please feel free to insert anything you guys see missing from the list. | 00:11 |
| ekcs | or bring them up in IRC. | 00:11 |
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| ekcs | ok moving on then | 00:14 |
| ekcs | #topic gate blockage | 00:15 |
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| ekcs | unfortunately our gate is still blocked since the jenkin to zuul migration. | 00:15 |
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| ekcs | we have patch ready to fix things in our repo, but that patch is still blocked by stuff in other repos. | 00:16 |
| ekcs | also seeing a fair amount of infra instability with POST_FAILURE. | 00:16 |
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| ekcs | hoping for things to be settled down by next week. | 00:17 |
| ekcs | quite a few patches stuck at the gate. | 00:17 |
| ekcs | any thoughts/comments/questions? | 00:17 |
| ekcs | main external issue we’re still waiting on: https://bugs.launchpad.net/designate/+bug/1721432 | 00:18 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1721432 in oslo.context "TypeError: __init__() got an unexpected keyword argument 'project' in Designate" [Critical,In progress] - Assigned to Juan Antonio Osorio Robles (juan-osorio-robles) | 00:18 |
| ekcs | ok moving along then. | 00:19 |
| ekcs | #topic continue drivers conf discussion | 00:19 |
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| ekcs | actually ramineni seems to be in and out. | 00:20 |
| ekcs | maybe we’ll wait a bit more. | 00:20 |
| ekcs | any other topics on our minds? | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | Not me | 00:20 |
| thinrichs | except… did you figure out the grammar problem? | 00:21 |
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| ekcs | thinrichs: no I haven’t. the triple quote appears to be broken. but not sure we want to actually try and fix it. | 00:21 |
| ekcs | I’m thinking we’ll work around it for feeding YAML to mistral in rule. | 00:22 |
| ekcs | like explicitly de-escape the \n in a string argument before passing on the mistral. | 00:23 |
| ekcs | one issue is what the intended result is when we write something like p(“a\nb”) in a congress rule. | 00:24 |
| ekcs | is it supposed to be length 3 with a newline character or is it supposed to be length 4? right now it reads as length 4. | 00:24 |
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| ekcs | I’m thinking we don’t really want to muck with that behavior so we can just add another layer of de-escape on top of that. | 00:25 |
| ekcs | open to thoughts and suggestions. | 00:25 |
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| ekcs | btw here is what I organized from our previous discussion around changing driver conf behavior: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-driver-conf | 00:27 |
| thinrichs | Not clear to me why embedding the carriage-return in the triple quote is the wrong thing. It gives the user the power to choose that. | 00:28 |
| thinrichs | Especially if the triple-quotes are broken. | 00:28 |
| thinrichs | I also don't know where the code that would change \n to a CRLF would live. The datasource? | 00:28 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: I’m thinking the datasource, for specific use like YAML string arg. | 00:29 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: I agree it’s cleaner to make p(“a\nb”) read as length 4 string. | 00:29 |
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| ekcs | sorry length 3 | 00:29 |
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| thinrichs | To be clear, I was thinking "a\nb" would be a 4-length string, but """a\nb""" would be a 3-length string. | 00:30 |
| ekcs | oh I see what you mean. | 00:30 |
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| ekcs | I was thinking “a\nb” would be length 3, and “a\\nb” would be length 4. consistent with python. | 00:31 |
| ekcs | so you’re saying since triple quote is broken, we can just fix it. | 00:31 |
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| ekcs | since clearly we’re not going to break people. | 00:32 |
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| ekcs | in python triple quote, “””a\nb””” would be length 4. | 00:32 |
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| ekcs | “””a | 00:32 |
| ekcs | b””” | 00:32 |
| ekcs | would be length 3. | 00:32 |
| thinrichs | Oh I see. I was assuming we wanted to write with the actual line-breaks in there. | 00:33 |
| thinrichs | But you're saying we want to use \n instead of the actual line-break. | 00:33 |
| masahito | sorry to interrupt. I need to go. | 00:34 |
| thinrichs | If I were embedding YAML into the file I'd probably want to cut-and-paste as is (and use YAML linters). That would require using the actual line breaks, instead of the \n./ | 00:34 |
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| ekcs | thanks masahito see you later! | 00:34 |
| masahito | ekcs: thanks, bye. | 00:34 |
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| thinrichs | bye masahito | 00:35 |
| masahito | thinrichs: bye | 00:35 |
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| ekcs | thinrichs: right. if we want to be able to copy past YAML into an arg, we’d need to fix triple quote and allow actual line breaks in the input. | 00:35 |
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| ekcs | that would be ideal. | 00:35 |
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| ekcs | but I have no idea where to start in fixing triple quote. | 00:36 |
| ekcs | and a compromise would be for user to replace newline by \n before pasting. | 00:37 |
| ekcs | may be the preferable style anyway in many cases. | 00:37 |
| ekcs | rather than | 00:37 |
| thinrichs | So then something consistent with Python makes sense. Maybe a backwards incompatible change, but that seems fine. | 00:38 |
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| ekcs | what is the backward incompatible change? | 00:40 |
| ekcs | reading “a\nb” is length three? | 00:40 |
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| thinrichs | Yes | 00:40 |
| thinrichs | That's not how it works today, right? | 00:41 |
| ekcs | no not how it works today. my favored option right now is to keep it working the way it is today. | 00:41 |
| thinrichs | (It'd obviously be a pretty tiny change in behavior) | 00:41 |
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| thinrichs | Oh—then no backwards incompatible change. | 00:41 |
| thinrichs | Put the translation in the datasource driver. | 00:42 |
| thinrichs | Right? | 00:42 |
| ekcs | but simply built it into specific action executions to de-escape. so it’s part of that action semantic rather than general parsing semantic | 00:42 |
| ekcs | right. it’s a bit hacky (ie. specific to something) | 00:42 |
| ekcs | but it keeps backward compatibility. | 00:42 |
| ekcs | but it’s also an option to just change the way “a\nb” parses completely to be consistent with python. | 00:45 |
| ekcs | i’m not sure how to do that either, but it may be easier to figure out than the triple quote. | 00:46 |
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| thinrichs | The datasource answer sounds like the simplest for now | 00:47 |
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| ekcs | yea that’s what I’m thinking. | 00:48 |
| ekcs | i’ll give it a try. | 00:48 |
| ekcs | so do you have any more thoughts on the drivers conf? | 00:48 |
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| ekcs | I added a new suggestion which is to treat the existing drivers option as specifying drivers in addition to the default ones. | 00:49 |
| ekcs | https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-driver-conf | 00:49 |
| ekcs | that way people who have additional drivers configured don’t get broken by upgrade. people who have old config don’t miss out on new drivers. | 00:50 |
| ekcs | only people who get “messed up” are people who specifically want certain drivers to be unavailable. | 00:50 |
| ekcs | they’d need to specify a new whitelist_driver option to limit to those. | 00:51 |
| ekcs | that’s 2.2 in the etherpad. | 00:51 |
| ekcs | sorry it’s 2.3 in the etherpad. | 00:53 |
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| ekcs | 2.2 is what I think both you and ramineni favored in last meeting. | 00:53 |
| ekcs | 2.1 is what I favored last meeting before I considered 2.3. | 00:53 |
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| ekcs | ok well time’s up. thanks for the discussion! feel free to add comments to the etherpad and/or respond to my ML message later. have a great week. #endmeeting | 01:00 |
| ekcs | #endmeeting | 01:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 12 01:00:09 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-10-12-00.01.html | 01:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-10-12-00.01.txt | 01:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-10-12-00.01.log.html | 01:00 |
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| zhenguo | #startmeeting mogan | 02:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 12 02:01:58 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhenguo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 02:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 02:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mogan' | 02:02 |
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| wanghao | hi | 02:02 |
| zhenguo | liusheng, shaohe_feng, wanghao, litao__, Xinran, zhangyang: o/ | 02:02 |
| wanghao | hah | 02:03 |
| liusheng | o/ | 02:03 |
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| wanghao | o/ | 02:05 |
| zhenguo | as always, the agenda: | 02:05 |
| zhenguo | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Mogan#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 02:05 |
| zhenguo | let's jump in | 02:05 |
| zhenguo | #topic announcements and reminders | 02:05 |
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| zhenguo | I created a library https://launchpad.net/os-cpu | 02:06 |
| Xinran | o/ | 02:06 |
| zhenguo | Xinran: o/ | 02:06 |
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| zhenguo | will move the shared codes there | 02:07 |
| zhenguo | to avoid duplication and drift with nova | 02:07 |
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| zhenguo | currently it placed here https://github.com/niuzhenguo/os-cpu | 02:07 |
| zhenguo | still empty :D | 02:07 |
| wanghao | why named os-cpu? | 02:08 |
| zhenguo | os-> openstack cpu-> compute | 02:08 |
| wanghao | okay | 02:08 |
| zhenguo | like os-brick and os-vif | 02:08 |
| wanghao | so Nova and Mogan will move shared codes to here? | 02:08 |
| zhenguo | only Mogan use and maintain it | 02:08 |
| zhenguo | if it's ok, hope nova can use it later | 02:09 |
| wanghao | yeah, hope that | 02:09 |
| zhenguo | anyway, we should do that | 02:09 |
| wanghao | that's a right way | 02:09 |
| wanghao | okay | 02:09 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: should we mention that in mailing list ? | 02:09 |
| wanghao | liusheng: I think so | 02:10 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: sure, later I will | 02:10 |
| wanghao | at least let nova guys know that | 02:10 |
| liusheng | ok | 02:10 |
| zhenguo | after we created a repo under openstack | 02:10 |
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| zhenguo | I will move configdrive/metadata stuff there first | 02:10 |
| zhenguo | to make it a library | 02:10 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: hah, not sure if the repo should belong to mogan group or others | 02:11 |
| zhenguo | not sure | 02:11 |
| zhenguo | but I prefer not, hah | 02:11 |
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| zhenguo | we can maintain it, but not as a sub project for us | 02:12 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: ok, let's take a look of os-brick and os-vif later | 02:12 |
| wanghao | en, hope nova guys can move codes to here too. | 02:12 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: yes | 02:12 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: Sean said, nova use os-brick after cycles | 02:13 |
| wanghao | zhenguo: yes | 02:13 |
| zhenguo | so we should do it first, and well define the library | 02:13 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: morningb | 02:13 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: o/ | 02:14 |
| zhenguo | ok, another thing is our official application https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508400/ | 02:15 |
| zhenguo | please keep an eye on that | 02:15 |
| wanghao | 恩 | 02:15 |
| wanghao | en | 02:15 |
| zhenguo | https://github.com/openstack/mogan | 02:17 |
| shaohe_feng | two +1 | 02:17 |
| zhenguo | we are back on our own feet now :D | 02:17 |
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| zhenguo | but seems something wrong with the gate now | 02:18 |
| liusheng | yes, seems other projects also broken | 02:18 |
| zhenguo | yes, seems related to the zuul v3 migration | 02:19 |
| zhenguo | we can do other tings until the gate back to normal | 02:19 |
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| zhenguo | not much of announcement, anyone else got a thing here | 02:20 |
| zhenguo | if not, let's move on | 02:21 |
| zhenguo | #topic task tracking | 02:21 |
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| zhenguo | #links https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MoganWhiteBoard | 02:21 |
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| zhenguo | oh, seems we forget to sync with ptg discussion on the white board | 02:22 |
| liusheng | indeed | 02:22 |
| zhenguo | please add your task there, hah | 02:23 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: ok, sure | 02:23 |
| zhenguo | based on this https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mogan-queens-ptg | 02:23 |
| wanghao | should we remove the done job? | 02:23 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: yes | 02:24 |
| wanghao | seems too much things here | 02:24 |
| wanghao | okay | 02:24 |
| wanghao | let's refresh it. | 02:24 |
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| zhenguo | ok, anyone wants to give some updates of your task here? | 02:27 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: I'm looking into rsd-lib | 02:28 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: how 's taht | 02:29 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: will update the spec. | 02:29 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: send a email to yanlin for some questions, cc you. | 02:29 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: you can check it. | 02:29 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: you can add a new spec, then I will get rid of the valence one | 02:29 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: agree. | 02:29 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: ok | 02:29 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: please have a look at this https://review.openstack.org/#/c/510724/ | 02:31 |
| zhenguo | not sure if client gate broken as well | 02:31 |
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| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: OK | 02:31 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: so, how's the quota work | 02:31 |
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| liusheng | zhenguo: didn't start yet.. | 02:32 |
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| zhenguo | liusheng: ok | 02:32 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: but I am trying to see how other project's implementaiton | 02:32 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: good | 02:33 |
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| zhenguo | Xinran: I find you patch about admin password support, thanks! | 02:33 |
| Xinran | zhenguo, np | 02:34 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: seems Keytone has plance to unify all the resource quota | 02:34 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: * plan | 02:34 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: you mean move quota to keystone? | 02:34 |
| Xinran | zhenguo, I am trying to return the password within the reponse of server create | 02:35 |
| wxy_ | FYI, this one: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/keystone-specs/specs/keystone/ongoing/unified-limits.html | 02:35 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: yes, currently, all the Cinder, Nova, Neutron have their own quota implementation | 02:35 |
| zhenguo | wxy_: thanks :D | 02:35 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: we can look into the specs | 02:36 |
| zhenguo | Xinran: cool | 02:36 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: the implementations are not very suitable and have some drawbacks | 02:36 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: ok | 02:36 |
| zhenguo | litao__: are you around? | 02:38 |
| wxy_ | yeah. It's block now. The first thing is to approve this two specs: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/441203 https://review.openstack.org/#/c/455709 | 02:38 |
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| zhenguo | wxy_, liusheng: should we wait for that happen ? | 02:39 |
| wxy_ | I'm try to take over them now. So If the quota in mogan is not urgent. I suggest you guys can follow Keystone. | 02:39 |
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| zhenguo | wxy_: ok, thanks | 02:39 |
| liusheng | wxy_: thanks for xiyuan mentioning that | 02:39 |
| wxy_ | Maybe it can be done in R release. | 02:39 |
| liusheng | ok | 02:40 |
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| zhenguo | wxy_: so we can leverage that in S :( | 02:40 |
| wxy_ | R is OK if everything goes well. | 02:40 |
| wxy_ | I'm not sure any way. :) | 02:40 |
| zhenguo | wxy_: ok, hah | 02:41 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: please keep an eye on that | 02:41 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: ok, sure | 02:42 |
| zhenguo | ok, the unmange servers specs need more reviews | 02:42 |
| shaohe_feng | wxy_: http://specs.openstack.org/openstack/keystone-specs/specs/keystone/ongoing/unified-limits.html | 02:42 |
| shaohe_feng | I can not open it | 02:43 |
| zhenguo | wanghao: is that only for unmanaging or including transfer? | 02:43 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: you can't? | 02:43 |
| liusheng | shaohe_feng: we can open it | 02:43 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: I can't believe there's a block in your office, hah | 02:43 |
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| Xinran | shaohe_feng, I can open it | 02:45 |
| zhenguo | ok, so anything else here? | 02:46 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: liusheng: then some thing wrong with my browser | 02:47 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: seems yes | 02:47 |
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| zhenguo | let's move on | 02:48 |
| zhenguo | #topic open discussion | 02:49 |
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| zhenguo | who's got a thing here? | 02:49 |
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| zhenguo | do you think the resource classs only scheduling is rigid? | 02:50 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: yes, a bit, hah | 02:50 |
| zhenguo | how about move to inventory based scheduling | 02:50 |
| zhenguo | I don't mean to move back to nova's vcpu, mem, disk | 02:51 |
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| zhenguo | but also move flexible | 02:51 |
| zhenguo | *more | 02:51 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: what inventories will be reported ? | 02:51 |
| zhenguo | from ironic node properties | 02:52 |
| zhenguo | not sure yet | 02:52 |
| zhenguo | and get rid of the flavor? | 02:52 |
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| zhenguo | http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-September/122594.html | 02:53 |
| zhenguo | see more information above from the ironic guys | 02:53 |
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| liusheng | zhenguo: ok, will read it | 02:53 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: not sure if we will need to care about some resources' quantity | 02:54 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: seems yes, with placement traits | 02:55 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: maybe mogan-engine directly call placement api and get rid of scheduler, hah | 02:55 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: hah | 02:56 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: we currently lock the whole scheduleing process | 02:56 |
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| liusheng | zhenguo: yes | 02:56 |
| zhenguo | liusheng: really frustrating | 02:57 |
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| zhenguo | liusheng: we can look into it to see whether we really need a scheduler service | 02:58 |
| liusheng | zhenguo: ok, need a deep dive | 02:58 |
| zhenguo | yes | 02:58 |
| zhenguo | ok, it's almost time | 02:59 |
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| zhenguo | if not other things want to discuss we can end here | 02:59 |
| zhenguo | thanks y'all! | 02:59 |
| zhenguo | #endmeeting | 02:59 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 12 02:59:36 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 02:59 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2017/mogan.2017-10-12-02.01.html | 02:59 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2017/mogan.2017-10-12-02.01.txt | 02:59 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2017/mogan.2017-10-12-02.01.log.html | 02:59 |
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| eumel8 | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 12 13:00:20 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eumel8. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 13:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 13:00 |
| eumel8 | Hello world! | 13:00 |
| eumel8 | who's there for the I18n meeting? | 13:00 |
| jftalta | HI ! | 13:00 |
| eumel8 | hi jftalta! | 13:00 |
| jpich | hey | 13:00 |
| eumel8 | hi jpich | 13:01 |
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| ianychoi_phone | Hi | 13:02 |
| eumel8 | how are you? how is the weather in France/Ireland? | 13:02 |
| eumel8 | Hi Ianychoi! | 13:02 |
| ianychoi_phone | I am in a business travel in Korea so my response might be slow.. sorry | 13:02 |
| ianychoi_phone | jftalta: hi :) | 13:02 |
| jftalta | sky is so-so, temp is cool | 13:02 |
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| eumel8 | nice | 13:02 |
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| jftalta | and in Germany ? | 13:03 |
| eumel8 | We had some storm last week with some damages in Berlin area. | 13:03 |
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| eumel8 | 7 dead, not nice, but we're save and house and family are also ok. | 13:04 |
| ianychoi_phone | eumel8: that's too pity. | 13:04 |
| jftalta | too bad :( | 13:05 |
| eumel8 | most of the infrastructure for trains and streets were broken | 13:05 |
| jftalta | storms strike anywhere... | 13:05 |
| eumel8 | and still after a week some lanes are still out of order | 13:06 |
| eumel8 | ok, good theme for our first topic | 13:06 |
| eumel8 | #topic Zuul v3 migration - status | 13:06 |
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| eumel8 | the second try for the zuul v3 migration was also not sucessfull. the infra team hits some serious issues before the can start. | 13:07 |
| eumel8 | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123489.html | 13:07 |
| eumel8 | so, translation sync jobs still affected | 13:08 |
| eumel8 | I think the work continues this afternoon and all what we can do is wait | 13:09 |
| eumel8 | questions? details? | 13:09 |
| eumel8 | next | 13:09 |
| eumel8 | #topic I18n bug triage | 13:10 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "I18n bug triage (Meeting topic: OpenStack I18n Meeting)" | 13:10 | |
| eumel8 | our main topic for today is bug triage | 13:10 |
| eumel8 | there are several bugs on our list: | 13:10 |
| eumel8 | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n | 13:11 |
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| eumel8 | maybe we can go through the list and look what we can do | 13:11 |
| eumel8 | sure, most of them are language bugs :) | 13:12 |
| jftalta | indeed | 13:12 |
| ianychoi_phone | I will see https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+bug/1710786 - Korean bug | 13:12 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1710786 in openstack i18n "No translated I18n guide is linked in Korean landing page" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to jeonghyeon woo (wjh1001) | 13:12 |
| ianychoi_phone | I think it is fixed | 13:12 |
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| jftalta | many bugs have "undecided" priority/severity | 13:14 |
| eumel8 | ianychoi: I've never worked with Launchpad Bugs before. Can we close this bug that you are mentioned? | 13:14 |
| ianychoi_phone | eumel8: okay. | 13:15 |
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| eumel8 | https://docs.openstack.org/ko_KR/ < seems at fixed | 13:15 |
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| ianychoi_phone | One note is that I want to nominate more launchpad cores for i18n but only Daisy can do it | 13:15 |
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| eumel8 | ianychoi: I remember me, but we haven't contact to her? | 13:17 |
| ianychoi_phone | I already sent emails but no response | 13:17 |
| eumel8 | too sad | 13:18 |
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| eumel8 | ianychoi: something else who could help? | 13:18 |
| ianychoi_phone | I am not sure... | 13:19 |
| ianychoi_phone | At least eumel8 and jftalta should be launchpad i18n core members | 13:19 |
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| eumel8 | #action eumel8 clarify core status https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n | 13:20 |
| jftalta | ianychoi: agree | 13:20 |
| jpich | Maybe infra can add cores to any group? | 13:20 |
| * jpich (in another meeting in parallel, sorry) | 13:21 | |
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| ianychoi_phone | jpich: thanks - I will ask for it to infra team | 13:22 |
| ianychoi_phone | jpich: fine :) | 13:22 |
| jpich | :) | 13:22 |
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| eumel8 | alright | 13:24 |
| eumel8 | there is only the posibily to send a request to join the core team | 13:24 |
| eumel8 | seems also this is fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+bug/1556772 | 13:25 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1556772 in openstack i18n "Wrong plural formula for russian" [High,Fix committed] - Assigned to Ying Chun Guo (daisy-ycguo) | 13:25 |
| eumel8 | mhm, there is no option for status closed | 13:26 |
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| eumel8 | next one is for amotoki: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+bug/1669768 | 13:27 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1669768 in openstack i18n "stackalytics: "language" filter does not work" [Medium,Triaged] | 13:27 |
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| eumel8 | but "language" is no parameter in the web frontend | 13:29 |
| ianychoi_phone | Hmm not too easy | 13:31 |
| eumel8 | and there are many many many other bugs for Stackalytics. Is there no maintenance team anymore? | 13:31 |
| ianychoi_phone | Someone needs to investigate in Stackalytics sources | 13:31 |
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| ianychoi_phone | eumel8: i met a Stackalytics core at Barcelona Summit and he agreed that he would support it if i18n team volunteer | 13:32 |
| eumel8 | ianychoi: what's the name of the guy? | 13:32 |
| ianychoi_phone | Ilya Shaktat | 13:33 |
| jftalta | I can ask the french team... | 13:33 |
| ianychoi_phone | (Sorry the last name might have typo) | 13:33 |
| jftalta | ianychoi: sounds good | 13:33 |
| ianychoi_phone | jftalta: it would be great. I have seen that one French contributed a lot on Stackalytics | 13:34 |
| eumel8 | ianychoI: right - https://bugs.launchpad.net/stackalytics (Bug Supervisor) | 13:34 |
| ianychoi_phone | On Gerrit | 13:34 |
| jftalta | do you remember his pseudo ? | 13:34 |
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| ianychoi_phone_ | Nope.. sorry now | 13:35 |
| eumel8 | mhm, in Gerrit are only name and company name changes | 13:35 |
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| eumel8 | and it seems he is alone | 13:35 |
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| jftalta | don't worry, I'll seek | 13:35 |
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| eumel8 | https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/183,members | 13:36 |
| eumel8 | ok, maybe a chance to occupied the next project ;) | 13:37 |
| ianychoi_phone_ | Thanks a lot | 13:37 |
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| eumel8 | the other 3 open bugs are bugs in Chinese language | 13:39 |
| eumel8 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+bug/1713480 | 13:39 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1713480 in openstack i18n "安装和配置 in Installation Guide" [Undecided,New] - Assigned to tl chen (vuuv) | 13:39 |
| ianychoi_phone | Hmm | 13:39 |
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| eumel8 | not sure, if it's wrong translated or the install guide is wrong | 13:40 |
| eumel8 | the other 2 are also marked by amotoki as simplified-chinese | 13:42 |
| eumel8 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+bug/1722187 | 13:43 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1722187 in openstack i18n "安装和配置 in Installation Guide" [Undecided,New] | 13:43 |
| eumel8 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+bug/1722190 | 13:43 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1722190 in openstack i18n "创建服务实体和API端点 in Installation Guide" [Undecided,New] | 13:43 |
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| eumel8 | the problem is also not understandable for us | 13:43 |
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| eumel8 | ianychoi: something to add here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+bug/1703502 | 13:45 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1703502 in openstack i18n "Memcached in Installation Guide" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 13:45 |
| eumel8 | ianychoi: and this is outdated. Mitaka is out of support: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+bug/1662403 | 13:47 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1662403 in openstack i18n "网络选项2：私有网络 in Installation Guide" [Undecided,Confirmed] - Assigned to tl chen (vuuv) | 13:47 |
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| eumel8 | the last one is from amotoki himself: https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+bug/1711513 | 13:48 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1711513 in openstack i18n "run_tests.sh in horizon-reload.sh no longer exists in horizon master" [Medium,New] - Assigned to Akihiro Motoki (amotoki) | 13:48 |
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| eumel8 | that's all for the bug triage | 13:50 |
| eumel8 | ianychoi: can you trigger the Chinese language coordinator to review all Chinese bugs? | 13:50 |
| eumel8 | and I will look at the Stackalytics and how we can help there | 13:51 |
| ianychoi_phone | eumel8: i will send an email to zzxwill copying to eumel8 | 13:51 |
| eumel8 | THX! | 13:51 |
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| eumel8 | #topic Open Discussion | 13:52 |
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| ianychoi_phone | eumel8: u r welcome | 13:52 |
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| eumel8 | I don't know if I'm doing right with the bug triage, but are aware and it's on our notify list. | 13:53 |
| ianychoi_phone | Thanks a lot today eumel8 and jftalta | 13:54 |
| eumel8 | the Doc team has a bug manager on duty but I think that's not necessary for us. | 13:54 |
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| jftalta | ianychoi: u r welcome | 13:54 |
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| eumel8 | and if there are no more topics to discuss I would close the meeting for today | 13:55 |
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| eumel8 | thx, ianychoi, jftalta, jpich - and have a nice evening/night :) | 13:55 |
| ianychoi_phone | +1 | 13:55 |
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| ianychoi_phone | I will also busy on the next werk | 13:56 |
| ianychoi_phone | week | 13:56 |
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| ianychoi_phone | But i will try to follow up more :) | 13:56 |
| jpich | You too! Y'all too | 13:56 |
| eumel8 | don't worry :) | 13:56 |
| ianychoi_phone | :) | 13:56 |
| eumel8 | #endmeeting | 13:56 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 12 13:56:36 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 13:56 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-10-12-13.00.html | 13:56 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-10-12-13.00.txt | 13:56 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-10-12-13.00.log.html | 13:56 |
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| jayahn | o/ | 14:04 |
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| jayahn | is there anyone for lcoo meeting? | 14:05 |
| shintaro | o/ | 14:05 |
| AndyU | Hi Jay, I am. o/ | 14:05 |
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| jayahn | AndyU: hi | 14:09 |
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| jayahn | FYI, PS for OpenStack-Helm proposing to be official-project. https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511320/ | 14:14 |
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| AndyU | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511320/ | 14:15 |
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| jayahn | https://openstack-lcoo.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/LCOO/pages/18153555/LCOO+Development+Proposals | 14:22 |
| AndyU | #link https://openstack-lcoo.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/LCOO/pages/18153555/LCOO+Development+Proposals | 14:22 |
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| shintaro | I think you need to startmeeting AndyU | 14:25 |
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| AndyU | oops.... thanks, shintaro. I'll do that. | 14:33 |
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| jamemcc_ | FYI - It is my job as chair to host the LCOO meetings - I was slow to get logged into my normal workstation and didnt' get here to start meeting. | 15:15 |
| jamemcc_ | I'll do a quick Start meetign just for the record and to link to the meeting notes | 15:16 |
| jamemcc_ | #startmeeting LCOO | 15:17 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 12 15:17:39 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jamemcc_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 15:17 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 15:17 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'lcoo' | 15:17 |
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| jamemcc_ | Agenda and today's meeting results can be found at: | 15:18 |
| jamemcc_ | #link https://openstack-lcoo.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/LCOO/pages/18087937/2017.10.12+LCOO+General | 15:19 |
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| jamemcc_ | This meeting is held in both Skype for Business for Audio and in IRC to allow another written channel during the meeting and allow others to participate who can't join in audio. | 15:20 |
| jamemcc_ | #action Jamemcc to schedule next session for 2 weeks from today, same time 1400 UTC | 15:21 |
| jamemcc_ | #action all interested update proposed topics for next Topical sharing session at: https://openstack-lcoo.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/LCOO/pages/18153555/LCOO+Topical+Session+Proposals | 15:22 |
| jamemcc_ | #endmeeting | 15:23 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 12 15:23:18 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:23 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/lcoo/2017/lcoo.2017-10-12-15.17.html | 15:23 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/lcoo/2017/lcoo.2017-10-12-15.17.txt | 15:23 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/lcoo/2017/lcoo.2017-10-12-15.17.log.html | 15:23 |
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| andreaf | #startmeeting qa | 17:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 12 17:00:22 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is andreaf. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 17:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 17:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'qa' | 17:00 |
| andreaf | Good morning, good evening everyone | 17:00 |
| andreaf | o/ | 17:00 |
| dustins | \o | 17:00 |
| andreaf | Who's here for the meeting today? | 17:00 |
| andreaf | hello dustins | 17:01 |
| dustins | andreaf: howdy | 17:01 |
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| andreaf | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/QATeamMeeting#Agenda_for_October_12th_2017_.281700_UTC.29 Today's agenda | 17:01 |
| andreaf | afazekas, oomichi, mtreinish around? | 17:02 |
| mguiney | po/ | 17:02 |
| mguiney | * o/ | 17:02 |
| andreaf | mguiney o/ | 17:03 |
| mguiney | sorry, typo'd | 17:03 |
| andreaf | since it's only the few of us, I'll do a quick fly through the agenda for the record and then open the floor to open discussion if that's ok | 17:04 |
| andreaf | stop me anytime :) | 17:04 |
| andreaf | #topic last meeting actions | 17:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "last meeting actions (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:05 | |
| andreaf | There were two actions for me | 17:05 |
| andreaf | #link http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-10-05-08.01.html | 17:05 |
| andreaf | Send an email about bug czar: done | 17:05 |
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| andreaf | Prepare a patch for test.py -> tbd | 17:05 |
| andreaf | #action andreaf prepare a patch for test.py release notes and docs | 17:06 |
| andreaf | #topic Forum Topics for Sydney Summit | 17:06 |
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| *** openstack changes topic to "Forum Topics for Sydney Summit (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:06 | |
| andreaf | We have three topics accepted for the forum | 17:06 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: I'm kinda around | 17:06 |
| andreaf | mtreinish o/ ok | 17:07 |
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| andreaf | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/qa-sydney-forum-topics the three sessions are tracked here | 17:07 |
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| andreaf | In short, openstack health, stestr and runners, users and operators adoption of qa tools | 17:08 |
| andreaf | Also we will have a QA onboarding session | 17:08 |
| andreaf | I asked gmann_afk and masayukig to help prepare the session ^^^ | 17:08 |
| andreaf | more volunteers to help prepare the session are always welcome | 17:09 |
| andreaf | #topic Office Hours | 17:09 |
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| andreaf | We had earlier today our first office hours | 17:09 |
| andreaf | I feel it went well | 17:09 |
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| andreaf | We did mostly bug triage, there was one question only about devstack | 17:09 |
| andreaf | next one is in two weeks | 17:10 |
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| andreaf | #link http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123520.html Report of office hours | 17:11 |
| andreaf | #topic Tempest | 17:11 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "Tempest (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:11 | |
| andreaf | We're still trying to get test.py stable, there are three patches left for the object storage client | 17:11 |
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| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511156 | 17:11 |
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| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511173 | 17:12 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/510841 | 17:12 |
| andreaf | #info patches for object storage client to be reviewed ^^^ for test.py stable | 17:12 |
| andreaf | Also on Tempest you may have seen ansible patches | 17:12 |
| andreaf | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/tempest+branch:master+topic:zuulv3-tempest zuulv3 native jobs | 17:12 |
| andreaf | I'm working with infra on setting up base tempest job in zuul v3 native format | 17:13 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: there was a 100% breakage introduced by the object client cleanup | 17:13 |
| andreaf | that will be the basis for most devstack + tempest jobs in the zuulv3 world | 17:13 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: what do you mean by 100% breakage? | 17:14 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: https://bugs.launchpad.net/tempest/+bug/1722164 | 17:14 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1722164 in tempest "Senario test: test_swift_acl_anonymous_download is always failed" [High,In progress] - Assigned to Jeremy Zhang (jeremy.zhang) | 17:14 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: as in we broke a test so it never works after some of the cleanups | 17:14 |
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| mtreinish | it's not the latest round, but some of the earlier patches | 17:14 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: yeah I may be a bit too keen on getting those merged :( | 17:15 |
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| andreaf | mtreinish: do we run that test anywhere? | 17:16 |
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| mtreinish | andreaf: in the scenario jobs | 17:17 |
| mtreinish | which are nv | 17:17 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: uhm ok we need to be more careful with -nv jobs | 17:17 |
| mtreinish | it's been broken since https://review.openstack.org/#/c/504439/ (which showed the failure) | 17:17 |
| andreaf | #info object storage refactor broke test_swift_acl_anonymous_download running on non-voting | 17:17 |
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| andreaf | #info object storage refactor broke ceilometer plugin as well, which runs on non-voting puppet job | 17:18 |
| andreaf | #info we need to take care of non-voting jobs | 17:18 |
| andreaf | mtreinish: thanks for bringing it up | 17:19 |
| andreaf | Anything else on Tempest? | 17:19 |
| andreaf | ... | 17:20 |
| andreaf | .. | 17:20 |
| andreaf | . | 17:20 |
| mguiney | just another plea for reviews! | 17:20 |
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| mtreinish | mguiney: link? | 17:20 |
| mguiney | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/500470/ | 17:20 |
| andreaf | mguiney: sure. link? | 17:20 |
| mguiney | sorry, took a sec | 17:20 |
| andreaf | mguiney: I did review that, but it's not clear to me what the test is about | 17:21 |
| andreaf | I left a comment on the patch | 17:21 |
| mguiney | ah ok, thank you | 17:21 |
| mguiney | will take a look! | 17:21 |
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| andreaf | ok ping me if you want to chat about it - I may online a bit later after dinner | 17:23 |
| andreaf | #topic critical reviews | 17:23 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "critical reviews (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:23 | |
| andreaf | any other patch that needs urgent review? | 17:23 |
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| andreaf | #topic open discussion | 17:24 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: qa)" | 17:25 | |
| andreaf | ok anything else anyone? | 17:25 |
| andreaf | I have one question to the attendees, mguiney dustins mtreinish - do you find this meeting useful? | 17:26 |
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| mguiney | well | 17:26 |
| andreaf | I'm considering keeping only the APAC TZ meeting since there's more activity there but I don't want to take away a place for people to report issues or so | 17:26 |
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| mguiney | as someone trying to get more involved, it is helpful to be able to ask and listen to people directly | 17:27 |
| dustins | andreaf: I do find it useful, even if I don't have much to say | 17:27 |
| mguiney | i may be able to pop up then instead, what is the time? | 17:27 |
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| andreaf | 8:00 UTC | 17:27 |
| dustins | And it's this or wake up for a 03:00 meeting :) | 17:28 |
| andreaf | so now we have 8:00 UTC meeting alternating with 9:00 UTC office hours | 17:28 |
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| andreaf | uhm that's way too early | 17:28 |
| dustins | Also explains why I haven't heard of the office hours, that's at 04:00 | 17:28 |
| * dustins is not a morning person | 17:29 | |
| andreaf | :D | 17:29 |
| dustins | Oh man, and with Daylight Savings it moves back another hour, oof | 17:29 |
| mtreinish | andreaf: it's not super useful to me. But, it's also around my lunch time so I'm not super active | 17:29 |
| andreaf | I could perhaps cancel this meeting and setup a second office hours around 2pm UTC or so | 17:30 |
| dustins | 11:00 EST, yeah? | 17:31 |
| dustins | That would be during the Manila upstream meeting for me, at least | 17:31 |
| andreaf | ok | 17:31 |
| andreaf | I'll send a proposal in the ML to get a bit more input then, I can propose a few slot and ask for people to vote | 17:32 |
| dustins | andreaf: sounds good to me, thanks, andreaf! | 17:32 |
| andreaf | ok | 17:32 |
| andreaf | #action andreaf send email about office hours in ~ UTC afternoon to replace this meeting | 17:33 |
| andreaf | shall we wrap up? | 17:33 |
| andreaf | anything else | 17:33 |
| andreaf | ? | 17:33 |
| andreaf | thanks for attending! | 17:33 |
| * andreaf waves goodbye | 17:33 | |
| andreaf | #endmeeting | 17:33 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 17:34 | |
| * mguiney waves | 17:34 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 12 17:33:59 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 17:34 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-10-12-17.00.html | 17:34 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-10-12-17.00.txt | 17:34 |
| dustins | \o | 17:34 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/qa/2017/qa.2017-10-12-17.00.log.html | 17:34 |
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| mriedem | #startmeeting nova | 21:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 12 21:00:06 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:00 |
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| mriedem | who's around? | 21:00 |
| melwitt | 0/ | 21:00 |
| dansmith | I'm pretty round | 21:00 |
| takashin | o/ | 21:00 |
| tssurya_ | o/ | 21:00 |
| melwitt | hah | 21:00 |
| edleafe | \o | 21:00 |
| mriedem | so today melwitt has the tall head and tssurya has the normal sized head? | 21:00 |
| tssurya_ | hehe | 21:01 |
| melwitt | yeah, I liked the tall head idea | 21:01 |
| efried | \o | 21:01 |
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| mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 21:01 |
| mriedem | #topic release news | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release news (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:01 | |
| mriedem | #link Queens release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Queens_Release_Schedule | 21:01 |
| mriedem | #info Oct 19: q-1 milestone, nova spec freeze (1 week away) | 21:01 |
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| mriedem | i went through a few specs today, there are a lot out there with -1s on them | 21:02 |
| mriedem | #info Blueprints: 53 targeted, 27 approved, 1 complete | 21:02 |
| mriedem | #link forum topics are being reviewed: http://forumtopics.openstack.org/ | 21:02 |
| mriedem | there is some actual movement on the forum sessions now | 21:02 |
| mriedem | any questions about the release? | 21:02 |
| mriedem | #topic bugs | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:03 | |
| mriedem | nothing marked as critical | 21:03 |
| mriedem | #info 11 new untriaged bugs (up 5 from last week) | 21:03 |
| mriedem | gate status is.... | 21:03 |
| mriedem | well patches are merging | 21:03 |
| mriedem | so that's good | 21:03 |
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| mriedem | 3rd party ci - zkvm ci was having some issues, | 21:03 |
| melwitt | gate on stable branches seems faily | 21:03 |
| edleafe | should we be pushing new patches? Or hold off for now? | 21:03 |
| mriedem | andreas is going to adjust the whitelist for the zkvm ci to see if that helps | 21:04 |
| mriedem | i think we can be pushing patches | 21:04 |
| edleafe | ah, ok. I was holding on to mine | 21:04 |
| mriedem | melwitt: i've seen some in stable/pike merge today | 21:04 |
| mriedem | got one in the gate right now | 21:04 |
| melwitt | guess it just hates my patches then | 21:04 |
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| dansmith | gate is pretty faily now across the board no? | 21:05 |
| dansmith | with logs.o.o failures and such | 21:05 |
| * efried has been mercilessly rechecking everything | 21:05 | |
| dansmith | lots of POST_FAILUREs | 21:05 |
| dansmith | the stuff holding up the v3 transition | 21:05 |
| melwitt | I've seen lots of stuff merging on master. but yeah I've seen some POST_FAILURE too | 21:05 |
| mriedem | there were 2 known things that were notified out earlier today | 21:05 |
| mriedem | the post failures and another one with a package dependency | 21:05 |
| dansmith | melwitt: yeah the tings I've seen on master have been running fewer tests, more likely to sail through | 21:06 |
| dansmith | but yeah, some is merging for sure | 21:06 |
| mriedem | "Job log uploads are failing due to lack of inodes. Jobs also fail due to mismatches in gnutls packages. Workarounds for both in progress with proper fixes to follow." | 21:06 |
| mriedem | that was 6 hours ago | 21:06 |
| mriedem | moving on | 21:06 |
| mriedem | #topic reminders | 21:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:06 | |
| mriedem | just review and reply to feedback on specs | 21:07 |
| mriedem | but we're probably nearing our limit | 21:07 |
| mriedem | #topic stable branch status | 21:07 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stable branch status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:07 | |
| mriedem | #link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z | 21:07 |
| mriedem | #link Etherpad for bugs tracked for Pike backports: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-pike-bug-fix-backports | 21:07 |
| mriedem | i've been harassing some stable cores to review some stuff for pike so we can do a release | 21:07 |
| mriedem | once some of that flushes out i'll cut a release | 21:07 |
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| mriedem | #link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z | 21:08 |
| mriedem | #link stable/newton: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/newton,n,z | 21:08 |
| mriedem | #info Oct 18 : stable/newton branches get tagged EOL | 21:08 |
| mriedem | so less than a week to newton EOL | 21:08 |
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| mriedem | i'll get whiny about reviews there later in the week | 21:08 |
| mriedem | #topic subteam highlights | 21:08 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "subteam highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:08 | |
| mriedem | dansmith: cells? | 21:08 |
| dansmith | we talked about open reviews, | 21:09 |
| dansmith | and the bug that the rally team hit, which is now resolved | 21:09 |
| dansmith | and the few that melwitt uncovered with her meddling | 21:09 |
| dansmith | I think that was it? | 21:09 |
| dansmith | oh | 21:09 |
| melwitt | :) | 21:09 |
| dansmith | and tssurya_'s patch | 21:09 |
| dansmith | which I have now +2d, btw | 21:09 |
| dansmith | now I'm done | 21:10 |
| tssurya_ | dansmith : thanks :) | 21:10 |
| mriedem | i think i might have also said something really inspiring and groundbreaking, but can't remember now | 21:10 |
| dansmith | I remember nothing like that | 21:10 |
| melwitt | ouch | 21:10 |
| mriedem | ... | 21:10 |
| * mriedem shifts eyes | 21:10 | |
| mriedem | edleafe: scheduler?! | 21:10 |
| edleafe | Agreed to expose the root_provider_uuid in GET /resource_providers | 21:10 |
| edleafe | Reviewed the progress on various patch series | 21:10 |
| edleafe | Alternate hosts series ready for review | 21:10 |
| edleafe | Spent the bulk of the meeting time discussing how un-cloudy we can get with nested RPs | 21:10 |
| edleafe | that's it | 21:11 |
| mriedem | alright | 21:11 |
| mriedem | api meeting, there are some notes in here | 21:11 |
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| mriedem | Talking about the spec "spec for API extensions policy removal" https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508101/, there are two questions | 21:11 |
| mriedem | Whether we need a deprecation cycle for the policy removal https://review.openstack.org/#/c/508101/3/specs/queens/approved/api-extensions-merge-queens.rst@61 | 21:11 |
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| mriedem | if we can deprecate policy rules, it seems we should | 21:12 |
| mriedem | handle them like config options | 21:12 |
| mriedem | which is why we have policy in code now | 21:12 |
| mriedem | issue the 2nd | 21:12 |
| mriedem | "The spec mixed the extension cleanup and policy removal, can we separated them into two BPs? the extension cleanup can be a specless BP." | 21:12 |
| mriedem | yes extension cleanup can be a separate specless blueprint, it has already been done that way since i think ocata | 21:13 |
| mriedem | notes to gmann_afk and alex_xu ^ when they are around | 21:13 |
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| mriedem | ok notifications meeting updates, | 21:13 |
| mriedem | several things that gibi wanted to see merged are now merged, so he's happier | 21:13 |
| mriedem | some of the versioned notification translation stuff has stalled because some of the people working on it are no longer around | 21:14 |
| mriedem | so gibi was going to start picking up more of those stalled changes | 21:14 |
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| mriedem | and there was something else but i can't remember what now, | 21:14 |
| mriedem | probably me saying something awe-inspiring | 21:14 |
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| mriedem | CINDER | 21:15 |
| mriedem | #help need another core reviewer on the new style volume attachment live migration change https://review.openstack.org/#/c/463987/ | 21:15 |
| mriedem | otherwise nova changes are kind of held up waiting on cinder changes right now | 21:15 |
| mriedem | i need to go back and check the status of those things | 21:15 |
| mriedem | #topic stuck reviews | 21:15 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stuck reviews (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:15 | |
| mriedem | so efried added this | 21:15 |
| mriedem | https://review.openstack.org/#/c/499826/ -- Do we need a new microversion to add a missing "link" to GET /resource_providers? | 21:15 |
| mriedem | so apparently we added some links w/o a microversion in a response once, | 21:16 |
| mriedem | and now efried is trying to do the same and people are saying a microversion is required | 21:16 |
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| mriedem | so it's stuck | 21:16 |
| edleafe | generally, if you change what someone gets from an identical request, it requires a microversion | 21:16 |
| efried | Yeah, there's no argument that the *letter* of the law says you need a new microversion here. | 21:17 |
| efried | I'm contending that this is a perfect example of where that rule can be overlooked. | 21:17 |
| efried | can and should | 21:17 |
| edleafe | For a single cloud, sure. For interop, that is breaking | 21:17 |
| edleafe | It's the Monty Rule | 21:18 |
| edleafe | :) | 21:18 |
| mriedem | well, although, | 21:18 |
| mriedem | placement in this case is admin-only so also a bit special | 21:18 |
| efried | Seems weird to me that adding a new key in a dict would be breaking, but I get that that decision was made for reasons. | 21:19 |
| edleafe | for key in body.keys(): process(key) | 21:19 |
| smcginnis | Would a client ever need to ensure that links is there? If that's the case, the only way they can have that assurance is to ask for a specific microversion. | 21:19 |
| mriedem | so https://review.openstack.org/#/c/468923/1/nova/api/openstack/placement/handlers/resource_provider.py was the thing that changed the response w/o a microversion | 21:19 |
| edleafe | cdent did a naughty thing there :) | 21:21 |
| efried | If we decide we need a new microversion, it seems silly to have a whole one just for this; but on the other hand it would be against the usual policy to slide it into some other unrelated change (although that too was kinda done by ^) | 21:21 |
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| edleafe | yeah, cause microversions are expensive! | 21:21 |
| efried | Sorry, not indoctrinated enough to ascertain whether that was sarcasm | 21:22 |
| mriedem | it's ed so yes | 21:22 |
| edleafe | definitely sarcasm | 21:22 |
| mriedem | assume sarcasm | 21:22 |
| mriedem | idk, i don't have a super strong opinion on this either way | 21:22 |
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| mriedem | make sdague decide :) | 21:23 |
| edleafe | It's a bit more work, sure, but we're trying to be more disciplined with out APIs than we have in the past | 21:23 |
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| edleafe | (that wasn't sarcasm) | 21:23 |
| mriedem | the right thing to do is microversion the change, regardless of what wasn't done correctly before, | 21:24 |
| mriedem | we bump the minimum required microversion that nova needs each release already, | 21:24 |
| mriedem | so eventually the minimum we're going to require is already going to contain this thing, | 21:24 |
| mriedem | so long-term it's not a big deal to do it in a new microversion, | 21:24 |
| mriedem | so let's just do that | 21:24 |
| mriedem | efried: ok? | 21:25 |
| efried | Okay. | 21:25 |
| efried | Bumps that change set down on my priority list. | 21:26 |
| efried | But cool. | 21:26 |
| efried | Thanks for the discussion. | 21:26 |
| mriedem | ok | 21:26 |
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| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 21:27 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "open discussion (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:27 | |
| mriedem | 2 things | 21:27 |
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| mriedem | 1. Is anyone interested in running a project on-boarding room at the summit? http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2017-October/123206.html | 21:27 |
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| dansmith | I'll volunteer to help | 21:27 |
| dansmith | if someone else will do it with me | 21:27 |
| melwitt | I can help | 21:27 |
| edleafe | I'll help, if only to aggravate dansmith | 21:27 |
| mriedem | YES | 21:28 |
| dansmith | edleafe and I can do performance art arguing | 21:28 |
| mriedem | #action mriedem to ask for an onboarding room at the summit, piloted by dan, mel and ed | 21:28 |
| edleafe | dansmith: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQFKtI6gn9Y | 21:28 |
| mriedem | ok final thing | 21:29 |
| mriedem | Kevin_Zheng: specless blueprint for adding more instance actions: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/fill-the-gap-for-instance-action-records | 21:29 |
| mriedem | we talked about this at the ptg, | 21:29 |
| mriedem | and i had asked kevin to look into other server api actions that we were missing, so he found a few others to put in there | 21:29 |
| mriedem | i'm ok with it as a specless blueprint, but bringing it up here for publicity | 21:29 |
| mriedem | any objections? | 21:29 |
| mriedem | taking that as a no | 21:30 |
| mriedem | does anyone else have anything for open discussion? | 21:30 |
| mriedem | ok i guess that's it | 21:31 |
| mriedem | thanks everyone | 21:31 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 21:31 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 21:31 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 12 21:31:29 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:31 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-10-12-21.00.html | 21:31 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-10-12-21.00.txt | 21:31 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-10-12-21.00.log.html | 21:31 |
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| mlavalle | #startmeeting neutron_drivers | 22:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 12 22:00:13 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mlavalle. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 22:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 22:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: neutron_drivers)" | 22:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'neutron_drivers' | 22:00 |
| armax | yello | 22:00 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 22:00 |
| yamamoto | hi | 22:00 |
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| armax | amotoki: around? | 22:01 |
| mlavalle | he said he was going to join | 22:02 |
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| armax | ok | 22:02 |
| mlavalle | let's give him a couple of minutes | 22:02 |
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| mlavalle | ok, let's start | 22:04 |
| armax | let's | 22:04 |
| mlavalle | yamamoto: I sent you an email with a doodle survey | 22:04 |
| yamamoto | i found it in my inbox | 22:05 |
| mlavalle | when you have a chance, please respond with your availability for alternate time | 22:05 |
| mlavalle | no rush right now | 22:05 |
| yamamoto | ok | 22:05 |
| mlavalle | This is the list of triaged RFEs that we want to process today: | 22:06 |
| mlavalle | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bugs?field.status%3Alist=Triaged&field.tag=rfe | 22:06 |
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| mlavalle | First one in the list is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1690425 | 22:06 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1690425 in neutron "[RFE] neutron cells aware" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:06 |
| armax | this one came from the boston forun | 22:07 |
| armax | forum | 22:07 |
| mlavalle | it was only time before someone was to bring this up | 22:07 |
| armax | in a nutshell, it’d be nice if we can make neutron able to deal with more than a single rabbit cluster | 22:07 |
| armax | in a similar way nova cells does it | 22:08 |
| armax | however, there’s more than one way to do that | 22:08 |
| armax | we could potentially fall back on using the cells hierarchy to find how to route the messages across the deployment | 22:08 |
| armax | or use something like message routing (latest link) on the bug report | 22:09 |
| armax | this requirement keeps coming up but no-one steps up to do the work :) | 22:09 |
| mlavalle | yeah, I goit myself thorugh that presentation right before they start the demo | 22:09 |
| mlavalle | I think this something we won't be able to avoid indefinitily | 22:09 |
| mlavalle | if Nova Cells V2 starts to get adopted, the pressure will only gow on Neutron | 22:10 |
| armax | mlavalle: that’s a good point | 22:10 |
| mlavalle | so I think it is better if we are proactive | 22:11 |
| armax | cell v2 is already default in th gate | 22:11 |
| armax | so there’s going to be an uptake for sure | 22:11 |
| mlavalle | what about the DB? | 22:11 |
| armax | what do you mean? | 22:11 |
| armax | how to shard the DB? | 22:12 |
| armax | don’t go there :) | 22:12 |
| mlavalle | just clarifying the prposal | 22:12 |
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| mlavalle | do we want to keep a centralized Neutron server | 22:12 |
| mlavalle | and the use a super fast messaging bus to talk to agents across cells? | 22:13 |
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| armax | mlavalle: I’d say so | 22:15 |
| armax | mlavalle: the neutron server can already be scaled out infinitely | 22:15 |
| armax | agents can be deployed per AZ | 22:15 |
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| armax | the chokepoint has always been the bus for us | 22:15 |
| mlavalle | now if I understood the presentation you posted in the RFE, we could adopt that messaging approach | 22:16 |
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| armax | that’s one way to tackle the messaging chokepoint | 22:17 |
| yamamoto | how about tricircle? | 22:17 |
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| mlavalle | without necessarily aligning completly with de cells on the Nova side, right? | 22:17 |
| armax | while tricircle introduces a hierarchy of neutron systems | 22:18 |
| armax | it’s like killing a fly with a cannon if the bottleneck is just the bus | 22:19 |
| mlavalle | would the next step be a PoC? | 22:20 |
| mlavalle | and maybe get feedback from large operators in Sydney | 22:20 |
| armax | mlavalle: PoC about what exactly? | 22:21 |
| mlavalle | some code using this new messaging approach | 22:21 |
| armax | oh | 22:21 |
| armax | well | 22:21 |
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| mlavalle | I am just trying to get to the next step | 22:21 |
| armax | yeah, makes sense | 22:22 |
| armax | I suppose we could recommend to look into the routing messaging approach to avoid the bottleneck | 22:22 |
| mlavalle | if we believe the premise that this is something that will catch up with us sooner or later | 22:22 |
| armax | we’d need the scale to validate that the approach is sound, no? | 22:22 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 22:22 |
| mlavalle | and if the premise above is true^^^^, let's start learning asap | 22:23 |
| yamamoto | armax: if the cannon works well, i guess it's ok. do you have any particular downside in your mind? | 22:25 |
| armax | yamamoto: complexity! | 22:25 |
| yamamoto | ok. i don't know how complex tricircle is. | 22:26 |
| mlavalle | has it been deployed at large scale succesfuly, you know? | 22:27 |
| armax | anything that involves a hierarchical structure can’t be simple :) | 22:27 |
| armax | it’s like linkedlist vs BSTs :) | 22:27 |
| armax | or AVL trees | 22:27 |
| armax | I let you decide which structure is easier to understand :P | 22:28 |
| armax | mlavalle: you mean tricircle? | 22:28 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 22:28 |
| armax | mlavalle: you’re best position to find the answer the question as it’s been a project spearheaded by huaweii | 22:28 |
| armax | I think proposing tricircle has some merits too | 22:29 |
| mlavalle | I know, that is why I am asking | 22:29 |
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| mlavalle | maybe we can decide to next setps here for today | 22:29 |
| armax | but again, that comes with a lot more than just overcome the bus chokepoint | 22:29 |
| armax | next step is probably add a documentation section to our guide | 22:29 |
| armax | to plot some of these stop-gap solutions | 22:29 |
| mlavalle | 1) Dig deeper in the messaging approach | 22:30 |
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| armax | any other? | 22:31 |
| mlavalle | 2) I could do some fact finding about tricircle | 22:31 |
| armax | I send a 2) | 22:31 |
| armax | sense | 22:31 |
| armax | is there a 3)? :) | 22:31 |
| mlavalle | no | 22:31 |
| armax | so 0) being the doc effort/ | 22:32 |
| mlavalle | not from my anyway | 22:32 |
| armax | ? | 22:32 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 22:32 |
| armax | yamamoto, amotoki what’s your experience? heard complaint about the MQ bus? | 22:32 |
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| yamamoto | i've heard comlaints about amqp. in many cases "we" propose midonet as a solution. :-) | 22:34 |
| armax | lol | 22:34 |
| armax | there you go, problem solved! | 22:34 |
| armax | :) | 22:34 |
| mlavalle | lol | 22:35 |
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| armax | OK, shall we move on? I think we have enough to take this a bit more farther | 22:35 |
| mlavalle | yeap | 22:35 |
| armax | who summarizes this on teh report? | 22:35 |
| armax | mlavalle: you? | 22:36 |
| armax | or you? | 22:36 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 22:36 |
| armax | or maybe you? | 22:36 |
| mlavalle | I will | 22:36 |
| armax | ok, then if you volunteer | 22:36 |
| armax | I am happy to bow | 22:36 |
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| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1690438 | 22:37 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1690438 in neutron "[RFE] make get-me-a-network work with any network topology" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:37 |
| mlavalle | I looked at this one earlier today and I liked it | 22:37 |
| mlavalle | including the spec | 22:37 |
| mlavalle | yamamoto has a comment I believe | 22:38 |
| armax | mlavalle: I need to refresh it one more time based on a chat I had with kevinbenton | 22:38 |
| armax | but other than that I think the work is a great example of a starter bug | 22:39 |
| mlavalle | the spec? | 22:39 |
| armax | ya | 22:39 |
| mlavalle | I am good to approve the RFE | 22:39 |
| armax | as it’s just orchestration on top of easy stuff | 22:39 |
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| mlavalle | yamamoto: what do you think? | 22:39 |
| armax | OK, we need to advertisize that’s free for takers next team meeting | 22:39 |
| mlavalle | will do | 22:39 |
| armax | mlavalle: actually I even had a PoC code lying around somewhere | 22:39 |
| armax | but I think I lost it | 22:39 |
| armax | :( | 22:39 |
| yamamoto | i think it's fine to approve the RFE and sort out details in spec review | 22:40 |
| mlavalle | I will actually add a section to the Neutron meeting to advertise this | 22:40 |
| mlavalle | like we have a section for docs, neutron-libe, bugs, etc | 22:40 |
| mlavalle | starting on Monday | 22:40 |
| mlavalle | ok, approved | 22:41 |
| armax | woot | 22:41 |
| mlavalle | Next one is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1690439 | 22:42 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1690439 in neutron "[RFE] Deal with NetworkAmbiguous error" [Wishlist,Triaged] - Assigned to hongbin (hongbin034) | 22:42 |
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| armax | that’s another one that came out of the forum in bost | 22:43 |
| armax | boston | 22:43 |
| mlavalle | wow, we even got a volunteer for this RFE since I wrote a comment this morning | 22:43 |
| armax | we need to mark a network in neutron to be default | 22:43 |
| mlavalle | yeah | 22:43 |
| armax | but most orchestration is in nova | 22:43 |
| armax | honestly we even have the code in neutron | 22:43 |
| armax | because today we can mark an external network as default | 22:44 |
| armax | so it’s a bit of shuffling | 22:44 |
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| mlavalle | would it be a be a starter's RFE on our side? | 22:45 |
| armax | I think so | 22:47 |
| mlavalle | well, we already have hongbin as volunteer | 22:47 |
| mlavalle | My opinion is let's approve it | 22:47 |
| mlavalle | yamamoto: what do you think? | 22:48 |
| yamamoto | +1 to approve | 22:48 |
| mlavalle | approved it is | 22:48 |
| mlavalle | Next up is https://bugs.launchpad.net/neutron/+bug/1692126 | 22:49 |
| openstack | Launchpad bug 1692126 in neutron "[RFE] Detailed error responses for failed VPN connections" [Wishlist,Triaged] | 22:49 |
| armax | last comment from yamamoto makes sense, I mean about the description being a standard attribute | 22:49 |
| armax | though it’s be nice for those resources that have a status to have a status description that is done consistently | 22:50 |
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| yamamoto | can we have another stdattr-like thing? say HasStatusAndItsDescription | 22:51 |
| armax | probably no worth the hassle | 22:51 |
| mlavalle | so would we pursue this only for VPN? | 22:53 |
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| yamamoto | i guess we can start from the given use case (vpn) but with future consistency for other resources in mind | 22:54 |
| mlavalle | I think that is a good approach | 22:55 |
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| yamamoto | any precedence of "status details" in neutron? | 22:56 |
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| mlavalle | what do you mean? have we tried this before? | 22:57 |
| armax | there’s no such field/capability in neutron | 22:57 |
| armax | I don’t recall | 22:58 |
| yamamoto | i meant, if there's a precedence, we should be consistent with it. | 22:58 |
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| yamamoto | i don't recall anything either | 22:58 |
| mlavalle | me neither | 22:58 |
| mlavalle | so I say let's move ahead with this for VPN | 22:59 |
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| mlavalle | armax, yamamoto: what to do say? | 22:59 |
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| armax | It’s say it’s up to the vpnaas core team to decide | 23:01 |
| armax | I think it’s a reasonable addition | 23:02 |
| mlavalle | ok, I'll make a note in the RFE to this effect | 23:02 |
| mlavalle | Time is up | 23:02 |
| mlavalle | thanks for attending | 23:03 |
| yamamoto | +1 to make vpnaas decide. | 23:03 |
| yamamoto | thank you | 23:03 |
| mlavalle | #endmeeting | 23:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 12 23:03:21 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 23:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-10-12-22.00.html | 23:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-10-12-22.00.txt | 23:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/neutron_drivers/2017/neutron_drivers.2017-10-12-22.00.log.html | 23:03 |
| mlavalle | o/ | 23:03 |
| armax | OK | 23:04 |
| armax | thanks | 23:04 |
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| yamamoto | mlavalle: the doodle is showing Oct 16-21, which is "even" week. i thought we were going to change the slot for "odd" week. which is your intention? | 23:12 |
| mlavalle | yamamoto: I will just use the days of the week as reference | 23:13 |
| mlavalle | don't worry abouyt the specific week | 23:14 |
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| mlavalle | in other words, use those days as if they are odd | 23:15 |
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| yamamoto | mlavalle: in that case, you're checking the slot conflicting with neutron meeting. | 23:19 |
| mlavalle | you mean on Tuesday? | 23:19 |
| yamamoto | yes | 23:20 |
| mlavalle | yeah, that's a mistake on my part. I'll fix it | 23:20 |
| yamamoto | ok. i filled mine. | 23:22 |
| mlavalle | done, thanks for pointing it out | 23:22 |
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