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| ekcs | #startmeeting congressteammeeting | 00:01 |
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| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 00:01 |
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| ekcs | Hi all! welcome back. topics here as usual. add/comment/edit as you see fit. #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 00:02 |
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| thinrichs | Hi all | 00:02 |
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| ekcs | hi thinrichs ! | 00:04 |
| ekcs | topics are here as usual: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-meeting-topics | 00:04 |
| thinrichs | Wondered for a minute if the meeting time had changed | 00:04 |
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| ramineni_ | ekcs: thinrichs :hi | 00:04 |
| ekcs | hi ramineni_ | 00:04 |
| thinrichs | hi ramineni_, ekcs | 00:05 |
| ekcs | ok let’s dive in then. | 00:05 |
| ekcs | #topic meeting time | 00:06 |
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| ekcs | Proposed move to Fridays 02:30 UTC to make time more bearable for India. | 00:06 |
| ekcs | Got feedback privately and also sought feedback on ML. If there are no objections, let's go ahead and make the switch starting next week. | 00:06 |
| ekcs | Any more thoughts about the time change? | 00:06 |
| ekcs | Ok then I’ll send out an ML announcement for the change effective next week (Nov 3). | 00:08 |
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| ekcs | #topic Gate status | 00:08 |
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| ekcs | Our gate is not in great shape right now. | 00:09 |
| ekcs | Master blocked as of 10/25 because An object we mock in testing has been removed in oslo policy 1.29 | 00:09 |
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| ekcs | Here is the commit: https://github.com/openstack/oslo.policy/commit/7e185ad96b043c0cb450a6dfc6245db7aa4a0fd6#diff-38dac991635941a0cc209c729f58298eL280 | 00:09 |
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| ekcs | Stable branches are also blocked, hopefully will be resolved by backporting this Murano devstack patch (don’t attempt to contact now defunct app catalog): https://review.openstack.org/#/c/507740/ | 00:11 |
| ekcs | Replicated Congress integration tests all failing well before getting to Congress. Hopefully to be worked out here with some help from infra folks: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509697/ | 00:12 |
| thinrichs | That one looks interesting. | 00:14 |
| ekcs | Which one? | 00:14 |
| ekcs | last one? | 00:14 |
| thinrichs | The 2nd one. Seems zuul was updated | 00:14 |
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| ekcs | right. since the change to zuul v3 that’s been failing. | 00:15 |
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| ekcs | anyway. | 00:16 |
| ekcs | moving on then? | 00:16 |
| thinrichs | Yep—seems like a lot of work's gone into the gate tracking all that down | 00:17 |
| ekcs | yea hopefully things get back to normal soonish. not great to be going without the replicated tests. | 00:17 |
| ekcs | #topic sydney summit | 00:18 |
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| ekcs | So I wanted to mention some Congress-relevant events at the sydney summit. | 00:19 |
| ekcs | I’m doing a project update. here are the slides I’ve been working on: https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1vxp_kb-d-HDalu5G-zPa1tqHTYIl3Cwp6G_gjrDEfdU/edit#slide=id.p8 | 00:19 |
| ekcs | Thanks thinrichs for the helpful feedback. | 00:19 |
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| ekcs | comments and suggestions still appreciated. particularly around whether there are helpful significant things to mention that I’m leaving out. | 00:20 |
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| ekcs | masahito and I will be doing our first ever congress onboarding event. | 00:21 |
| ekcs | https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/20429/congress-project-onboarding?BackURL=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstack.org%2Fsummit%2Fsydney-2017%2Fsummit-schedule%2Fglobal-search%3Ft%3Dcongress%23eventid%3D20429 | 00:21 |
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| ekcs | Not really sure what to expect, but the idea is people interested in contributing can show up and get an overview of the project & code, and get a jump start. | 00:22 |
| thinrichs | Sounds fun! | 00:22 |
| thinrichs | Will they get to try using Congress, or is it focused more on developing Congress? | 00:23 |
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| ekcs | it’s focused on developing. my thinking was so do a quick version of the project update presentation and follow with overview of code and answering more questions at length. | 00:23 |
| ekcs | but now that you mention it, | 00:24 |
| ekcs | trying it out could be really good too. | 00:24 |
| ekcs | do please share any other suggestions with me or masahito. | 00:25 |
| ekcs | Then I’m also going to be part of the self-healing infra forum session. | 00:26 |
| ekcs | https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/20508/self-healing-and-optimization-sig?BackURL=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.openstack.org%2Fsummit%2Fsydney-2017%2Fsummit-schedule%2Fglobal-search%3Ft%3Dself-healing%23eventid%3D20508 | 00:26 |
| ekcs | It’ll be a lot of people and not a long meeting, so I’m not sure whether we’ll get down into much detail or mostly just logistics of the new SIG. | 00:27 |
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| ekcs | I’ve been working on some Congress examples to be ready to share there if appropriate. I’ll ask for more feedback when ready. | 00:27 |
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| ekcs | any other thoughts about what we want to bring to the forum, please share here or later with me =) | 00:28 |
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| ekcs | this forum etherpad has some discussion topics already: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/self-healing-rocky-forum | 00:29 |
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| ekcs | any more comments about the events I mentioned or anything else about the sydney summit? | 00:30 |
| thinrichs | No from me. The self-healing forum looks like it's got the right folks attending | 00:31 |
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| ekcs | great. | 00:32 |
| ramineni_ | And monitoring demo ..is it just a session | 00:32 |
| ramineni_ | Already implemented one ..I mean | 00:32 |
| ramineni_ | Using all projects | 00:32 |
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| ekcs | ramineni_: right there is also a presentation that mentions using Congress. | 00:34 |
| ekcs | DMA(Distributed Monitoring and Analysis): Monitoring Practice and Lifecycle Management for Telecom | 00:34 |
| ekcs | I’m not clear on all the details myself, but plan to find out more there. | 00:34 |
| ramineni_ | Ok ..nice ..looks interesting | 00:34 |
| ekcs | In this presentation, we will show the service lifecycle management, enlarging the scope of our framework to utilize monitoring data for failure recovery. The advantages of the framework are (1) fast fault detection by shorter interval monitoring (2) silent failure detection by machine learning with various types of metrics. The presentation also includes a demo, showing a workflow of quick service recovery, interworking among OpenStack, including Congre | 00:34 |
| ekcs | Ceilometer and Aodh, collectd, scikit-learn and related OPNFV projects. | 00:34 |
| ekcs | Right I’m curious to see how Congress fits in. | 00:35 |
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| ekcs | a broader thought on “machine learning” in infra management. | 00:36 |
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| ekcs | I’ve been wondering whether Congress makes sense as a human-specified layer that sits between “machine learning” signals and remedial actions. | 00:37 |
| ekcs | basically we’d add additional data sources / alarms based on machine learned signals. and write policy over those. Not sure whether there is a good case to be made for doing things that way. | 00:38 |
| ekcs | does it provide something valuable over directly connecting machine learing signals to remedial actions? | 00:40 |
| ekcs | does it negate any value? | 00:40 |
| ekcs | all fairly open questions I think. | 00:41 |
| thinrichs | Yep—guess it depends on whether you want ML to figure out the actions, or whether you want people to codify the logic that translates ML signals into action. | 00:41 |
| ekcs | thinrichs: right. and also if we want ML to figure out some actions, but override it in some circumstances, would congress make sense as a layer for that control. | 00:42 |
| ekcs | anyway. for the rest of the time, we can continue the driver loading discussion, or discuss any open patches, or discuss the config verification spec, or anything else we want to talk about. | 00:43 |
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| ekcs | any thoughts? | 00:44 |
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| ramineni_ | Driver loading ..I think we have discussed a lot ,but not everyone on agreement:) | 00:48 |
| ekcs | I think ramineni_ and thinrichs are more or less in agreement. | 00:48 |
| ekcs | #topic driver conf | 00:48 |
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| ramineni_ | I'm inclined towards stevedore ..if everyone else thinks not good option .. we can ignore this | 00:48 |
| ekcs | but I added a new suggestion. | 00:49 |
| ekcs | Something I sent out over ML a while back #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/congress-driver-conf | 00:49 |
| ramineni_ | Which point number | 00:50 |
| ekcs | the way I understood it from our discussions, there are three main questions to answer. | 00:50 |
| ekcs | we all agree that on a clean slate installation of Congress, all packaged drivers should be available for use without specific config. | 00:51 |
| ekcs | but questions: | 00:51 |
| ekcs | 1. what to do with exsting drivers config in existing installation upgraded to new Congress? | 00:51 |
| ekcs | 2. specify the options by class path or by driver name | 00:51 |
| ekcs | 3. lazy loading or eager loading | 00:51 |
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| ekcs | my new suggestion is | 00:51 |
| ekcs | 2.3 | 00:52 |
| ekcs | on the question of what to do with existing driver config. | 00:52 |
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| ekcs | during the previous discussion, I think ramineni_ and thinrichs liked 2.2. ekcs liked 2.1, but when I was summarizing the pros and cons, I realized 2.3 is an interesting option worth considering. | 00:53 |
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| ramineni_ | I didn't understand 2.3 | 00:55 |
| ramineni_ | Is it new option | 00:56 |
| ramineni_ | Supplement drivers | 00:56 |
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| ekcs | it means congress behaves by loading all default drivers PLUS all drivers specified on the conf option `driver` | 00:57 |
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| ramineni_ | Ok | 00:58 |
| ekcs | that way anyone with custom drivers don’t get broken with the upgrade. | 00:59 |
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| ramineni_ | If anyone have written custom driver .. it should be still ok to load new driver via setup.cfg ..will not be big change for them IMO | 00:59 |
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| ramineni_ | We should eventually deprecate right anyway | 00:59 |
| ekcs | ramineni_: can you add your thoughts to the pros and cons list in the etherpad? | 01:00 |
| ramineni_ | Hehe | 01:01 |
| ekcs | since time is up. | 01:01 |
| ekcs | =) | 01:01 |
| ekcs | we can also continue next time but it’s helpful to lay it out in pros and cons. | 01:01 |
| ramineni_ | Ok ..no issue ..I don't think we will be in agreement :p | 01:01 |
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| thinrichs | See you all later! | 01:01 |
| ekcs | ok later all! | 01:01 |
| ekcs | #endmeeting | 01:02 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 26 01:02:04 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 01:02 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-10-26-00.01.html | 01:02 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-10-26-00.01.txt | 01:02 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/congressteammeeting/2017/congressteammeeting.2017-10-26-00.01.log.html | 01:02 |
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| zhenguo | #startmeeting mogan | 02:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 26 02:00:34 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is zhenguo. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 02:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 02:00 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: mogan)" | 02:00 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'mogan' | 02:00 |
| wanghao_ | o/ | 02:00 |
| Xinran | o/ | 02:00 |
| zhenguo | o/ | 02:00 |
| liusheng_ | o/ | 02:01 |
| litao__ | o/ | 02:01 |
| zhenguo | seems we don't have meetings for a long time :D | 02:01 |
| zhenguo | as always, the agenda: | 02:02 |
| zhenguo | #link https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Mogan#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 02:02 |
| zhenguo | let's jump in | 02:02 |
| zhenguo | #topic announcements and reminders | 02:02 |
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| wanghao_ | yah | 02:02 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: morning | 02:02 |
| zhenguo | hah | 02:02 |
| litao__ | lol | 02:02 |
| zhenguo | There's a session on the schedule for Sydney Summit titled "Bare metal as a service: Ironic vs. Mogan vs. Nova". | 02:02 |
| zhenguo | Please join the session if you can be there | 02:03 |
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| wanghao_ | zhenguo: of course hahah | 02:03 |
| zhenguo | wanghao_: :D | 02:03 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: sorry not there | 02:03 |
| shaohe_feng | sorry not there | 02:03 |
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| zhenguo | litao__, shaohe_feng: but you can be on the etherpad. | 02:04 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: yeah | 02:04 |
| zhenguo | it's a forum, so we use etherpad as well to discuss | 02:04 |
| zhenguo | I think it is, I never moderate a forum before | 02:05 |
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| litao__ | zhenguo: how to join the forum | 02:05 |
| zhenguo | litao__; in fact, you can't, if you are not there, lol | 02:06 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: hah | 02:06 |
| zhenguo | litao__: but the record will be on etherpad. | 02:06 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: ok, where is the link? | 02:06 |
| zhenguo | litao__: you can also leave comments during the forum | 02:06 |
| zhenguo | litao__: not created yet | 02:06 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: ok | 02:06 |
| wanghao_ | litao__: will create it when meeting begin | 02:07 |
| zhenguo | We have migrated legacy jobs to mogan repo and it works well. | 02:07 |
| zhenguo | #https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511776/ | 02:07 |
| litao__ | wanghao_: ok, just notify us when it starts | 02:07 |
| zhenguo | not sure if you have noticed t his | 02:07 |
| zhenguo | ok | 02:08 |
| wanghao_ | zhenguo: litao__: I can notify you in wechat | 02:08 |
| litao__ | wanghao_: thanks | 02:09 |
| zhenguo | oh sorry, wrong links, please use this #links https://review.openstack.org/#/c/511776/ | 02:09 |
| zhenguo | so, all jobs are in our own repo, we don't need to send patch to project-config anymore | 02:10 |
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| zhenguo | ok, another thing is about the os-cpu library | 02:12 |
| zhenguo | #links https://github.com/niuzhenguo/os-cpu | 02:13 |
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| zhenguo | We can move the part of "ABI" between Nova and cloud-init therer first | 02:13 |
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| zhenguo | Xinran's admin password supporting patch maybe a good start for this | 02:14 |
| shaohe_feng | good | 02:14 |
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| litao__ | zhenguo: cool, Is it used as an common library for mogan and nova? | 02:15 |
| zhenguo | litao__: yes | 02:15 |
| zhenguo | to avoid code duplication and drift | 02:15 |
| wanghao_ | litao__: we hope that | 02:15 |
| zhenguo | like os-brick I think | 02:15 |
| litao__ | zhenguo,wanghao_ : got it | 02:15 |
| zhenguo | If our library is good enough, I think nova can also have a look at it | 02:16 |
| wanghao_ | indeed | 02:16 |
| shaohe_feng | yes | 02:17 |
| zhenguo | I will work on that later | 02:17 |
| Xinran | zhenguo, I can not open the documentation link in os-cpu link ... | 02:17 |
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| zhenguo | Xinran: really? | 02:17 |
| zhenguo | how about others? | 02:17 |
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| litao__ | I can 't open it | 02:19 |
| litao__ | 404 Not Found | 02:19 |
| zhenguo | oh, maybe because it's a private repo, I can change the settings later | 02:19 |
| zhenguo | or create a repo under openstack namespace | 02:20 |
| zhenguo | ok, let's move on | 02:20 |
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| zhenguo | Contribution into mogan for the last 30 days | 02:20 |
| zhenguo | #link http://stackalytics.com/report/contribution/mogan/30 | 02:20 |
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| zhenguo | seems we are not really active these days | 02:20 |
| zhenguo | sorry for that | 02:21 |
| zhenguo | not much of announcement, anyone else have a thing here? | 02:22 |
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| zhenguo | #topic task tracking | 02:23 |
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| zhenguo | #links https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/MoganWhiteBoard | 02:23 |
| zhenguo | #links https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/mogan-queens-ptg | 02:23 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng, zhangjl: I think we can make an mogna-RSD POC | 02:24 |
| zhenguo | *mogan | 02:25 |
| shaohe_feng | yes | 02:25 |
| shaohe_feng | good idea | 02:25 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: I have talked with Xinran about the system metadata thing | 02:25 |
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| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: you can save some key/pairs there for RSD composed server | 02:26 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: and wrt the flavors | 02:26 |
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| zhenguo | can we not make it a mandantory | 02:26 |
| zhenguo | flavor is used to select a node to use | 02:26 |
| zhenguo | but for rack-server, it's not suitable | 02:27 |
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| zhenguo | so, for your case, you don't need flavors at all | 02:27 |
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| zhenguo | not sure how zhangjl's POC looks like | 02:28 |
| zhenguo | with valence? | 02:28 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: still around? | 02:29 |
| shaohe_feng | yes | 02:29 |
| zhangjl | zhenguo:sorry for late reply | 02:29 |
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| zhenguo | shaohe_feng, zhangjl: hah | 02:29 |
| zhangjl | our poc is with valence | 02:29 |
| shaohe_feng | zhangjl: can you elaborate your POC? | 02:29 |
| zhenguo | there's flavors notion in valence? | 02:29 |
| zhenguo | with MASS or ironic? | 02:30 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng, zhangjl: we can discuss the details later | 02:30 |
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| zhangjl | shaohe_feng:my pleasure | 02:30 |
| zhangjl | zhenguo,shaohe_feng:let`s discuss later | 02:31 |
| zhenguo | zhangjl: ok | 02:31 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: I just propose to not use flavor for RSD server | 02:31 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: you can have a try | 02:31 |
| shaohe_feng | OK | 02:33 |
| shaohe_feng | let's try another way. | 02:33 |
| shaohe_feng | I will look into valence. | 02:33 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: ok | 02:34 |
| zhenguo | wanghao_: how's the cinder integration task | 02:34 |
| zhenguo | sorry, I don't got time to look into it | 02:34 |
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| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: pass them in the API parameters? | 02:34 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: yes, pass the parameters directly | 02:35 |
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| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: like cpu: 16, memory: 10240 | 02:35 |
| wanghao_ | zhenguo: sorry, me too, I prepare to test the cinder client first next week. | 02:35 |
| zhenguo | wanghao_: ok, thanks | 02:36 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: I remember softlayer also provide two types of API | 02:36 |
| wanghao_ | zhenguo: my devstack is lost, I need a new one first ..... | 02:36 |
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| zhenguo | wanghao_: hah | 02:36 |
| shaohe_feng | what's the two types? | 02:37 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: one with size(flavor) | 02:38 |
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| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: and the other with custom properties | 02:38 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: not sure, need to confirm | 02:38 |
| zhenguo | shaohe_feng: they also support custom servers, but not with RSD | 02:39 |
| shaohe_feng | zhenguo: got it. | 02:40 |
| zhenguo | litao__: seems the tags patches are moving along nicely | 02:40 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: yes, I need reviews and commit the next patch | 02:41 |
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| zhenguo | litao__: sorry for the delay, will try to do that soon | 02:42 |
| zhenguo | and shaohe_feng, please also help to review the tags patches | 02:42 |
| litao__ | zhenguo: thanks | 02:42 |
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| zhenguo | litao__: np | 02:42 |
| zhenguo | Xinran: I need to build an image to test your password patch | 02:42 |
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| zhenguo | Xinran: code looks good to me | 02:43 |
| zhenguo | Xinran: thanks for working on that | 02:43 |
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| zhenguo | also the pagination support one https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514506/ | 02:44 |
| Xinran | zhenguo, hah, np | 02:44 |
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| Xinran | zhenguo, I am trying to add sort key and sort direciton too | 02:44 |
| zhenguo | Xinran: cool, thanks | 02:44 |
| zhenguo | Xinran: and you can talk with shaohe_feng about the system metadata things | 02:45 |
| Xinran | zhenguo, ok | 02:45 |
| Xinran | zhenguo, we will discuss later | 02:45 |
| zhenguo | Xinan: I think he need to put some things there for RSD server | 02:45 |
| zhenguo | ok, anything else? | 02:46 |
| shaohe_feng | no from me | 02:47 |
| zhenguo | #topic open discussion | 02:48 |
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| zhenguo | who's got a thing here? | 02:48 |
| zhenguo | if not, we can end here :D | 02:48 |
| zhenguo | thanks y'all | 02:48 |
| zhenguo | #endmeeting | 02:49 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "OpenStack Meetings || https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings" | 02:49 | |
| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 26 02:49:17 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 02:49 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2017/mogan.2017-10-26-02.00.html | 02:49 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2017/mogan.2017-10-26-02.00.txt | 02:49 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/mogan/2017/mogan.2017-10-26-02.00.log.html | 02:49 |
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| eumel8 | #startmeeting OpenStack I18n Meeting | 13:00 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 26 13:00:22 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is eumel8. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 13:00 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 13:00 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'openstack_i18n_meeting' | 13:00 |
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| genek | hi eumel8 | 13:00 |
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| eumel8 | hi genek | 13:01 |
| eumel8 | welcome to the I18n team meeting | 13:02 |
| genek | Missed a lot of meetings after school started ;-( | 13:02 |
| jftalta | Hi | 13:03 |
| genek | hi jftalta | 13:03 |
| eumel8 | hi jftalta | 13:03 |
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| eumel8 | rare guests ;-) | 13:03 |
| eumel8 | I have only some status reports today | 13:05 |
| jftalta | ok | 13:05 |
| eumel8 | #topic Sydney Summit - Onbarding Session Forum | 13:05 |
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| eumel8 | #link https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/20550/docsi18n-project-onboarding | 13:05 |
| eumel8 | Sydney Summit is on the horizon | 13:06 |
| eumel8 | a docs/i18n onboarding session is now scheduled | 13:06 |
| eumel8 | pkovar will be there from docs team and maybe amotoki for i18n together with Zanata guys | 13:07 |
| genek | I'll put it on my agenda | 13:07 |
| eumel8 | ++ | 13:07 |
| jftalta | I'll be there to | 13:07 |
| eumel8 | lucky guys :) | 13:07 |
| eumel8 | I'm not, because the talks from our company were not voted | 13:08 |
| eumel8 | and it's too far away ;) | 13:09 |
| genek | eumel8: I see | 13:09 |
| eumel8 | but if you're there and you have time to support, you're welcome :) | 13:10 |
| genek | I'll be there | 13:10 |
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| eumel8 | great | 13:11 |
| eumel8 | next topic | 13:11 |
| eumel8 | #topic Status Translation checksite | 13:11 |
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| eumel8 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/487936/ | 13:11 |
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| eumel8 | there is still no progress on the translation checksite | 13:12 |
| eumel8 | We're ready to go but we need the infra-team which is occupied with the zuul v3 migration | 13:12 |
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| eumel8 | Hopefully it becomes calmer and we can move on till the cycle translation phase | 13:13 |
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| eumel8 | that's the status of the translation checksite | 13:14 |
| eumel8 | next topic | 13:14 |
| eumel8 | #topic Status Zanata upgrade | 13:15 |
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| jftalta | the target is to get the translation site up and running for the Rocky release cycle ? | 13:15 |
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| eumel8 | jftalta: yes, but latest at the end of the year | 13:16 |
| jftalta | ok | 13:16 |
| eumel8 | we are nearly at the target but I told this very often in the past and then it takes more time then expected | 13:16 |
| eumel8 | For Zanata upgrade it's similar: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/506795/ | 13:17 |
| eumel8 | there are only 3 core-reviewers in puppet-infra and then it takes time to merge things | 13:18 |
| eumel8 | maybe during the summit the Zanata guys can push the upgrade forward | 13:19 |
| eumel8 | my expectation would be also an upgrade in this year | 13:19 |
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| eumel8 | if there are no questions I would skip the next topic because ianychoi isn't here | 13:21 |
| amotoki | hi | 13:21 |
| eumel8 | He is working on generic pdf build process #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509297/ | 13:21 |
| eumel8 | and I could imagine we can support him if he has no time to work on that | 13:22 |
| eumel8 | hi amotoki! | 13:22 |
| genek | hi amotoki | 13:22 |
| eumel8 | #topic Open Discussion | 13:23 |
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| eumel8 | amotoki: I mentioned the Docs/I18n onboarding session in Sydney where you could participate: https://www.openstack.org/summit/sydney-2017/summit-schedule/events/20550/docsi18n-project-onboarding | 13:24 |
| eumel8 | maybe pkovar contacted you yesterday | 13:24 |
| jftalta | hi amotoki | 13:25 |
| amotoki | eumel8: is there anything needed to prepare? | 13:25 |
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| amotoki | eumel8: perhaps I can join the session unless I get up too late | 13:26 |
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| eumel8 | amotoki: for the onbarding session not | 13:26 |
| amotoki | eumel8: yeah, the onboarding session | 13:26 |
| eumel8 | people come and will ask questions about documentation and translation | 13:26 |
| amotoki | eumel8: ah nice | 13:27 |
| jftalta | it's a kind of speed hiring ;) | 13:27 |
| eumel8 | In Boston we had not so much audience because it's english speaking area, but I could imagine that will change in the asia/pacific region | 13:28 |
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| amotoki | Sydney is in English speaking area too :p | 13:29 |
| genek | Yeah | 13:29 |
| eumel8 | amotoki: I mean AROUND :-)) | 13:29 |
| genek | Probably next time in Germany | 13:29 |
| genek | eumel8: I see | 13:29 |
| amotoki | no at YVR? | 13:30 |
| eumel8 | we had much more interests in Tokyo for example | 13:30 |
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| eumel8 | amotoki: what is YVR? | 13:31 |
| ianychoi | hi | 13:31 |
| ianychoi | i can chat after 10 mins sorry | 13:31 |
| eumel8 | hi ianychoi! | 13:31 |
| eumel8 | ok | 13:31 |
| amotoki | btw, is anyone working on translation support of documentation again after doc-migration? | 13:31 |
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| jftalta | ianychoi: hi ! | 13:32 |
| eumel8 | ianychoi: don't worry | 13:32 |
| amotoki | ianychoi: hi | 13:32 |
| eumel8 | amotoki: yes, I think | 13:32 |
| jftalta | eumel8: YVR is Vancouver | 13:32 |
| amotoki | I have been busy after PTG and could do nothing since then | 13:33 |
| eumel8 | jftalta: thx :) | 13:33 |
| amotoki | so I wonder if there is any progress | 13:33 |
| amotoki | sorry for using such abbrev | 13:33 |
| amotoki | YVR is the airport code of Vancouver | 13:33 |
| eumel8 | got it | 13:33 |
| eumel8 | but I wasn't never there ;) | 13:34 |
| amotoki | and we used YVR as etherpad prefix at the last summit at Vancouver... | 13:34 |
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| eumel8 | amotoki: AJaeger is helping us a lot, so we are able to work on translation after doc-migration and zuul v 3 migration. | 13:36 |
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| amotoki | eumel8: so, do we already support transaltion for docs in project repos? | 13:36 |
| amotoki | like install guide or something | 13:36 |
| eumel8 | amotoki: what I understand are the new zuul jobs now so generic and easy to adapt to other projects | 13:37 |
| amotoki | eumel8: yeah, that's true | 13:38 |
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| amotoki | as I said in PTG, we need to split POT files into meaningful pieces and vice versa in translation jobs | 13:39 |
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| eumel8 | amotoki: you have one project in mind? I asked openstack-ansible but there are not so much interests in translating the doc in other languages | 13:39 |
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| amotoki | eumel8: no, my target is a specific area like the install guide | 13:40 |
| amotoki | we previously had good transaltion coverage but after doc-migratoin all are gone | 13:40 |
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| amotoki | the install guide was split out into most projects (nova, glance, keystone, cinder, neutron, horizon ......) | 13:41 |
| amotoki | personally I stopped translation works in docs and am just supporting transaltion (i.e., i18n infra) | 13:41 |
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| amotoki | so if there is no interest on translations of such guides I am okay to stop translation support. | 13:42 |
| ianychoi | Hi eumel8 jftalta amotoki :) | 13:42 |
| eumel8 | yes, thats true. I can send a poll if the projects are interested. | 13:42 |
| eumel8 | ianychoi: hello again | 13:43 |
| ianychoi | :) | 13:43 |
| genek | hi ianychoi | 13:43 |
| amotoki | eumel8: I am not sure it is a question we should ask to individual project teams | 13:43 |
| jftalta | eumel8 : sounds good | 13:43 |
| ianychoi | genek, oh hi! | 13:43 |
| eumel8 | ianychoi: we talking about translation of project documentation | 13:43 |
| amotoki | they are not translators. they maintain english versions | 13:43 |
| ianychoi | genek, I met your friend in Korea yesterday - ONOS contributor | 13:44 |
| genek | ianychoi: yeah, he told me | 13:44 |
| eumel8 | amotoki: on the other hand it would be a bit strange if one project is translated and another not | 13:44 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, okay. Would there be some problems to support translation for project specific documentations? | 13:44 |
| amotoki | eumel8: yes, it needs to be project-wide | 13:44 |
| ianychoi | genek, great :) And I assigned you on Launchpad item. Please see it later | 13:44 |
| amotoki | I think translation support itself is really simple | 13:45 |
| ianychoi | amotoki, I agree with u | 13:45 |
| genek | ianychoi: I think I replied it right after, did you get the notification? | 13:45 |
| genek | +1 with amotoki | 13:45 |
| amotoki | so I think the key point is there are interest of translations from language teams. | 13:45 |
| ianychoi | One difficult would be that there may be more translation errors from infra side, but we may need to make some priorities. Just supporting would be simple I think. | 13:45 |
| eumel8 | ianychoi: just wondering if there are no interests from the project teams | 13:46 |
| ianychoi | genek, not yet because of too much e-mails nowadays.. | 13:46 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, IMO project specific docs which are linked from install-tutorials should be interested in translators | 13:47 |
| ianychoi | genek, oh i have just seen https://bugs.launchpad.net/openstack-i18n/+bug/1672927 - thanks a lot! | 13:47 |
| openstack | ianychoi: Error: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1672927 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1672927). The error has been logged | 13:47 |
| amotoki | IMO (as my hat of neutron/horizon core) it is completely up to translation teams. we are just maintaining English version. If there is a need for translation we can support it if enough instruction is provided. | 13:48 |
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| eumel8 | amotoki: I'm not sure if we are able to support this. That are a lot's of projects. | 13:50 |
| amotoki | eumel8: on that point, we can set priorities and add necessary settings (for example, sphinx conf) to prioritized projects first | 13:51 |
| ianychoi | I agree with amotoki :) | 13:51 |
| eumel8 | mhm, okay, then I would start with horizon and then we see how it will work. | 13:51 |
| amotoki | if there is no translation we never both individual teams (with translation import patches) | 13:51 |
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| eumel8 | for the others I send a poll and after the feedback we can priorisize | 13:52 |
| amotoki | horizon and neutron are easy for testing as I can approve changes :) | 13:52 |
| eumel8 | :) | 13:52 |
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| eumel8 | ianychoi: you want to talk the last 5 min about the pdf build thing? | 13:53 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, sure but PDF building is related to Docs a lot and also less on I18n | 13:53 |
| eumel8 | #topic Status PDF build spec | 13:53 |
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| eumel8 | #link https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509297/ | 13:53 |
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| eumel8 | ianychoi: there were some email communication in the past. Are there anything what we can do? | 13:54 |
| ianychoi | Now my question is that the review is related with docs team and not I18n team - would it be a good topic for I18n team? | 13:54 |
| eumel8 | I don't know. You think the doc team has to work on it? | 13:55 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, the agenda is for Docs team, not I18n team but now we are in I18n team meeting | 13:56 |
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| ianychoi | eumel8, you think that PDF build is also useful for I18n team? | 13:56 |
| eumel8 | double-check: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/I18nTeamMeeting#Next_meeting_:_Oct_26_2017.2C_13:00_UTC | 13:56 |
| eumel8 | ianychoi: only for clarification. I'm fine with that to set this on the agenda for the docs team meeting :) | 13:57 |
| amotoki | it totally depends on how much docs are translated :) and :( | 13:57 |
| amotoki | I think it is potentially useful for well translated documentations | 13:58 |
| eumel8 | we will see :) | 13:58 |
| ianychoi | eumel8, I am happy to tell to update the status for PDF builds - I originally wanted to ask some Korean colleagues to contribute on this but their progress is so slow. One concern for me is that it is now very hard to share the status in Docs team meeting. | 13:58 |
| ianychoi | It would be because of my busy life mainly... | 13:59 |
| eumel8 | time is over. thx for participating and discussion | 13:59 |
| amotoki | In my understanding, PDF discussion is mainly for archival usage though | 13:59 |
| eumel8 | we can switch to i18n channel | 13:59 |
| ianychoi | Yep | 13:59 |
| amotoki | ianychoi: the meeting time of docs meeting seems to be revisit again :) | 13:59 |
| genek | thanks all :) | 13:59 |
| ianychoi | Thanks a lot eumel8 amotoki genek and jftalta today! | 13:59 |
| eumel8 | #endmeeting | 14:00 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 26 14:00:01 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-10-26-13.00.html | 14:00 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-10-26-13.00.txt | 14:00 |
| amotoki | thanks all | 14:00 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_i18n_meeting/2017/openstack_i18n_meeting.2017-10-26-13.00.log.html | 14:00 |
| jftalta | goodbye | 14:00 |
| eumel8 | cu | 14:00 |
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| jamemcc_ | #startmeeting LCOO | 14:02 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 26 14:02:03 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is jamemcc_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 14:02 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 14:02 |
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| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'lcoo' | 14:02 |
| jamemcc_ | Welcome to LCOO Bi-weekly - General Meeting. IN this meeting we typically status any ongoing cross member efforts and then coordinate communications - in today's call to include upcoming Sydney Summit and upcoming Topical Sessions. | 14:03 |
| jamemcc_ | Agenda for interaction can be found and edited at | 14:04 |
| jamemcc_ | #link https://openstack-lcoo.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/LCOO/pages/19890209/2017.10.26+LCOO+General | 14:04 |
| jamemcc_ | Please let me know if you are here for this meeting | 14:04 |
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| xinhuili | #info Xinhui Li, VMware | 14:06 |
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| jamemcc_ | Hi Xinhui | 14:07 |
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| jamemcc_ | We largely interact in this meeting verbally and today on the webex bridge. Link in the agenda above | 14:07 |
| shintaro | hi | 14:07 |
| jamemcc_ | But also are co-hosting here in IRC. QUestions and interactions welcome here as well. | 14:07 |
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| jamemcc_ | Anyone have any general announcements? | 14:08 |
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| jamemcc_ | #topic Sydney Planning for LCOO | 14:11 |
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| AndyU | o/ | 14:12 |
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| shintaro | #link https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/SYD-forum-LCOORoadmap | 14:15 |
| shintaro | WG session etherpad | 14:15 |
| shintaro | welcome to add agenda ideas | 14:15 |
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| jamemcc_ | We are discussin addtional activities to schedule for Sydney | 14:28 |
| jamemcc_ | But switching now: | 14:28 |
| jamemcc_ | #topic Review "LCOO 2.0" slide deck for Sydney Summit | 14:28 |
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| shintaro | #link https://openstack-lcoo.atlassian.net/wiki/download/attachments/19890209/LCOO_Overview_Sydney_Summit_Nov_2017-for_lcoo_member_review.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1508999900312&cacheVersion=1&api=v2 | 14:33 |
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| jamemcc_ | #topic Next Steps for LCOO sessions in 2nd Year | 15:01 |
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| jamemcc_ | #end-meeting | 15:02 |
| jamemcc_ | #endmeeting | 15:03 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 26 15:03:01 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 15:03 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/lcoo/2017/lcoo.2017-10-26-14.02.html | 15:03 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/lcoo/2017/lcoo.2017-10-26-14.02.txt | 15:03 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/lcoo/2017/lcoo.2017-10-26-14.02.log.html | 15:03 |
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| mriedem | #startmeeting nova | 21:01 |
| openstack | Meeting started Thu Oct 26 21:01:18 2017 UTC and is due to finish in 60 minutes. The chair is mriedem. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. | 21:01 |
| openstack | Useful Commands: #action #agreed #help #info #idea #link #topic #startvote. | 21:01 |
| *** openstack changes topic to " (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:01 | |
| openstack | The meeting name has been set to 'nova' | 21:01 |
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| mriedem | hi | 21:01 |
| takashin | o/ | 21:01 |
| melwitt | o/ | 21:01 |
| tssurya_ | o/ | 21:01 |
| edleafe | \o | 21:01 |
| dansmith | o/ | 21:01 |
| mriedem | alright let's get started | 21:02 |
| tonyb | \o | 21:02 |
| mriedem | #link agenda https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Meetings/Nova#Agenda_for_next_meeting | 21:02 |
| mriedem | #topic release news | 21:02 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "release news (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:02 | |
| mriedem | #link Queens release schedule: https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Nova/Queens_Release_Schedule | 21:02 |
| mriedem | #info Blueprints: 64 targeted, 48 approved, 1 complete | 21:02 |
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| mriedem | i'll be culling the list of targeted blueprints after the summit probably, | 21:02 |
| mriedem | there are some in there that were just deferred from pike but don't really have owners | 21:03 |
| mriedem | #topic bugs | 21:03 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "bugs (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:03 | |
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| mriedem | nothing critical | 21:03 |
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| mriedem | although i'm finding lots of request spec bugs in our closet :) | 21:03 |
| jaypipes | o/ | 21:03 |
| mriedem | #info 18 new untriaged bugs (up 2 from last week) | 21:03 |
| mriedem | gate status is ok | 21:03 |
| mriedem | melwitt fixed a problem with our live-migration job and the zuulv3 transition | 21:04 |
| mriedem | so now that job will run on just changes to the CI hook script again | 21:04 |
| mriedem | no news on 3rd party ci | 21:04 |
| mriedem | #topic reminders | 21:04 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "reminders (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:04 | |
| mriedem | #info Forum topics have been reviewed and the summit schedule is available. Start working on Forum session discussion etherpads and presentations. https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Forum/Sydney2017 | 21:04 |
| mriedem | #topic stable branch status | 21:05 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "stable branch status (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:05 | |
| mriedem | #link stable/pike: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/pike,n,z | 21:05 |
| * efried waves late | 21:05 | |
| mriedem | #link Etherpad for bugs tracked for Pike backports: https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/nova-pike-bug-fix-backports | 21:05 |
| mriedem | #info Pike 16.0.2 is released | 21:05 |
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| mriedem | #link stable/ocata: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/ocata,n,z | 21:05 |
| mriedem | #link stable/newton: https://review.openstack.org/#/q/status:open+project:openstack/nova+branch:stable/newton,n,z | 21:05 |
| mriedem | #info Waiting on final newton release before EOL: https://review.openstack.org/#/c/512905/ - which depends on a backport of https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514339/ | 21:05 |
| mriedem | #help need reviews on https://review.openstack.org/#/c/514339/ | 21:05 |
| mriedem | would like to get ^ merged by eod tomorrow so we can start backports to get it to newton, | 21:06 |
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| mriedem | so we can do the final newton release probably early next week | 21:06 |
| mriedem | and then tonyb can eol the branch | 21:06 |
| mriedem | #topic subteam highlights | 21:06 |
| *** openstack changes topic to "subteam highlights (Meeting topic: nova)" | 21:06 | |
| mriedem | dansmith: cellsv2 things | 21:06 |
| dansmith | we had a meeting | 21:06 |
| dansmith | where we discussed a couple of open patches, including the one from tssurya_ | 21:06 |
| dansmith | which I have since commented on | 21:06 |
| dansmith | and the serieses from melwitt | 21:07 |
| dansmith | I think I mentioned that edleafe's series needs eyes as that's kinda the highest priority cellsv2 series | 21:07 |
| dansmith | since mriedem took a dump on mine | 21:07 |
| dansmith | no new bugs or other things really | 21:07 |
| dansmith | I think that's it | 21:07 |
| melwitt | which is edleafe's? | 21:07 |
| mriedem | alternate hosts | 21:07 |
| dansmith | the alternates one | 21:07 |
| edleafe | alternate hosts | 21:07 |
| melwitt | I must have missed that. okay | 21:07 |
| melwitt | thanks | 21:07 |
| edleafe | triple jinx! | 21:08 |
| mriedem | starts here https://review.openstack.org/#/c/513931/ | 21:08 |
| * dansmith punches mriedem and edleafe simultaneously | 21:08 | |
| melwitt | cool got it | 21:08 |
| mriedem | dansmith: that it? | 21:08 |
| dansmith | [14:07:41] <dansmith>I think that's it | 21:08 |
| mriedem | heh | 21:08 |
| mriedem | oops | 21:08 |
| mriedem | thanks | 21:09 |
| mriedem | edleafe: scheduler stuff | 21:09 |
| edleafe | Progress on the nested RP series was slowed by Jay's job switch, but are getting back on track | 21:09 |
| edleafe | Discussed how limits are used (and mis-used), and that we need to include them in the Selection object. | 21:09 |
| edleafe | Agreed that there isn't a good reason to forbid removing a trait on an RP that has allocations | 21:09 |
| edleafe | Clarified that traits describe what a RP is capable of, and not its current status. | 21:09 |
| edleafe | that's it | 21:09 |
| edleafe | (don't ask again!) | 21:09 |
| dansmith | so edleafe , anything else? | 21:09 |
| mriedem | "Clarified that traits describe what a RP is capable of, and not its current status." | 21:09 |
| * edleafe punches dansmith | 21:09 | |
| mriedem | i'm going to be happy to talk about that every week for the rest of our lives | 21:09 |
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| mriedem | moving on | 21:10 |
| mriedem | api meeting - i was there... | 21:10 |
| mriedem | mostly talked about gmann's api extension policy deprecation spec | 21:10 |
| mriedem | i think that was about it | 21:10 |
| mriedem | notifications - there was no meeting this week since gibi was on PTO | 21:10 |
| mriedem | or holiday or something | 21:10 |
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| mriedem | he left some notes | 21:11 |
| mriedem | We have some notification transformation patches needing a second +2: #link https://review.openstack.org/#/q/topic:bp/versioned-notification-transformation-queens+status:open+label:Code-Review%253D2 | 21:11 |
| mriedem | Last week I got the AP to check if author of the approved bp service-create-destroy-notification is still planning to push the implementation. I talked to him and the answer is yes. | 21:11 |
| mriedem | AP = action plan? | 21:11 |
| mriedem | adrian peterson? | 21:11 |
| mriedem | that's it for notifications | 21:11 |
| mriedem | cinder - waiting on this in cinder now https://review.openstack.org/#/c/509005/ | 21:12 |
| mriedem | new microversion which we're going to use on the nova side for the new attach flow | 21:12 |
| mriedem | #topic stuck reviews | 21:12 |
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| mriedem | nothing on the agenda | 21:12 |
| mriedem | did anyone have something to bring up here? | 21:12 |
| mriedem | #topic open discussion | 21:13 |
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| mriedem | (hshiina) specless blueprint request: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/nova/+spec/baremetal-migration-evacuation | 21:13 |
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| mriedem | hshiina does not appear to be around | 21:13 |
| mriedem | "This BP is focusing on baremetal migration and resize with booting from volume now. This can be done only with ironic driver change." | 21:13 |
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| mriedem | so it's not accurate to say it's specless since there is a spec https://review.openstack.org/#/c/449155/ | 21:13 |
| mriedem | and i think there needs to be a spec because while resize is a feature parity blueprint for ironic, | 21:14 |
| mriedem | we have to consider the fact we have lots of assumptions in the code that move operations don't happen for ironic (except evacuate) | 21:14 |
| dansmith | agree | 21:14 |
| mriedem | and we do a lot of ComputeNodeList[0] "because this isn't ironic" | 21:14 |
| melwitt | so that one has to get pushed out to rocky since we already had spec freeze right | 21:14 |
| mriedem | so since we're past spec freeze and this isn't trivial, | 21:14 |
| mriedem | yeah i think it gets deferred to rocky | 21:14 |
| mriedem | i think the thing to do here is work in the POC and get that all solid with testing *before* rocky, | 21:15 |
| mriedem | so it's ready to go when we open up | 21:15 |
| * jaypipes wonders what the use case for resizing a boot-from-volume ironic node actually is... :( | 21:15 | |
| mriedem | it's evacuate | 21:15 |
| mriedem | they are doing evacuate | 21:15 |
| mriedem | but via resize | 21:15 |
| mriedem | hence some more confusion in the spec | 21:15 |
| jaypipes | what does that even mean? :( | 21:15 |
| mriedem | the driver will take down the source node, | 21:16 |
| dansmith | jaypipes: prized pets | 21:16 |
| mriedem | move things over to the dest node | 21:16 |
| dansmith | show dogs | 21:16 |
| mriedem | and they do the disk via the root volume | 21:16 |
| jaypipes | ugh | 21:16 |
| mriedem | and if you didn't bfv, resize + ironic will blow up in the ocmpute | 21:16 |
| mriedem | *compute | 21:16 |
| dansmith | cattle-sized pets | 21:16 |
| mriedem | so, a horse? | 21:17 |
| dansmith | the kind you spend $10k of the kid's college money on new knees at 7 years old | 21:17 |
| jaypipes | panda | 21:17 |
| mriedem | ok so that was it for open discussion | 21:17 |
| mriedem | anyone have anything else? | 21:17 |
| mriedem | questions about the summit at all? | 21:17 |
| dansmith | instead of $1.50 on a syringe of the good stuff and call it a day | 21:17 |
| mriedem | alright then, | 21:17 |
| mriedem | talk to you next week | 21:18 |
| mriedem | #endmeeting | 21:18 |
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| openstack | Meeting ended Thu Oct 26 21:18:02 2017 UTC. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot . (v 0.1.4) | 21:18 |
| openstack | Minutes: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-10-26-21.01.html | 21:18 |
| openstack | Minutes (text): http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-10-26-21.01.txt | 21:18 |
| openstack | Log: http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/nova/2017/nova.2017-10-26-21.01.log.html | 21:18 |
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